State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer on Polis's Budget & Gun Advocate Alicia Garcia on Today's Mass Shooting
August 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Sen. Barb Kirkmeyer (R-23) joins Ryan with an update and recap on the General Assembly special session called by Governor Jared Polis to address a $1.2 billion budget shortfall, describing Democrats refusing to entertain any spending cuts to help narrow the state's deficit.
Alicia Garcia, 2nd Syndicate co-founder and gun rights activist, joins Ryan with her reaction and analysis surrounding the horrific mass shooting at a Minneapolis church on Wednesday.
Alicia Garcia, 2nd Syndicate co-founder and gun rights activist, joins Ryan with her reaction and analysis surrounding the horrific mass shooting at a Minneapolis church on Wednesday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Earlier today, just before eight thirty am, our city experienced
an unthinkable tragedy. Minneapolis police officers responded to a report
of a shooting at a mass that was happening at
the Annunciation Roman Catholic Church on the block behind me.
This worship service was marking the first week of school
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for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During
the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the
side of the building and began firing a rifle through
the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews
at the mess. Shooting through the windows, he struck children
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and worshipers that were inside the building. The shooter was
armed with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. This
was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and
other people worshiping. The sheer, cruelty and cowardice firing into
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a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible. Police officers
from the Minneapolis Police Department immediately responded, entered the church
and attempted to provide first aid and rescue some of
the children that were hiding throughout the building, while other
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first responders came and ems responded to rush victims to
nearby hospitals. Two young children, ages eight and ten, were
killed where they sat in the pews. Their parents have
been notified. Seventeen other people were injured, fourteen of them
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being children.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Two of those children are in condition.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own
life in the rear of the church. Our hearts are
broken for the families who have lost their children, for
these young lives that are now fighting to recover, and
for our entire community that has been so deeply traumatized
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by this senseless attack. We will stand together to protect
our children, our schools, and our houses of worship. This
deliberate act of violence is just a sign of cruelty
that is beyond comprehension.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Our hearts.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Our hearts are broken for everyone that's been affected by
this tragedy. As we begin the difficult path of healing,
I want the community to know this that even in
the face of such evil, the Minneapolis Police and all
of our law enforcement partners stand with our community.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That was Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara earlier today at
a press conference beginning it with details after this mass
shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic School Chief O'Hara handling this
extremely well. He then took questions very directly from the
media assembled there. And it's during times like these that
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we always hope to pause and wait and know that
there are certain things that we know that we don't know,
and then there are other things that we don't know.
What we don't know yet, but there are some facts,
some evidence being revealed because the shooter himself there reports
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that this is an individual who's confused about his gender identity.
You will hear in a moment a very disturbing being
portion audio from the video that the shooter posted on
social media. There was a manifesto that he wrote, the
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biological male. So I'm not going to play the games
of the pronoun crap. If you're an individual, if you're
a demon that perpetrates an act like this, not going
to respect your pronouns, your gender identity, anything else. I
don't think anybody else should either. But is that a
factor much more in the form of questions that we
have answers at this point. You hate to politicize this,
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but it almost in real time happens, and that is
certainly the case here today and we'll start with that
from Minneapolis mayor democrat Jacob Fry. You may remember him
from the George Floyd riots and his handling of that,
or lack thereof, anyway, he had this to say about
thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
These kids were literally praying. It was the.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
First week of school, they were in a church. These
are kids that should be learning with their friends. They
should be playing on the playground. They should be able
to go to school or church in peace without the
fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have
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the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of
basic assurances every family should have every step of the day,
regardless of where they are in our country.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's some righteous indignation there, some righteous anger from Jacob Fry.
I don't blame him for being angry, But who or
what is he angry at. He appears to be angry
at two things, one religion in general. Don't just say
this is about thoughts and prayers right now. Well, don't
you say that it's not. I don't know why this
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is a zero sum. I don't know why this is
mutually exclusive. I know that when I've gone through tough times,
the death of my mother, some very different cult breakups,
that when somebody says Ryan, I'll be praying for you,
I welcome that. It's not an end all be all.
Doesn't solve everything, but you don't want to just castigate
it and dismiss it out of hand. He seems to
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be also mad at the guns, the firearms, the firearms,
rather than the individual who committed this act. And if
he was angry at that person, he apparently believes we
can live in a world where there will be no evil,
and there will be no evil doers, and there will
be no criminals with bad intentions demonic. In fact, that
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is not a real world within which we live. That
is not reality. So what do we do? We're faced
with how do we handle and confront reality? And especially
in a free country. The libertarian and me will say
the following that we live on a continuum or spectrum
between complete and total freedom, which would indicate anarchy and
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off the rails, no laws, free for all. We don't
want to live in a world like that, But short
of that, we want to live in a reasonably free
society that we were guaranteed by our Founding Fathers and
the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the rights therein that
we have individual rights and liberties upon which those will
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not be infringed by our government. So that's one portion
of that spectrum in that direction. In the other direction,
you have order, complete and total order, and you can
have that in a totalitarian regime in which you have
no individual rights. But there's always going to be a
gray area within which most people and most nations on
this planet live. And with more freedom, yes, there comes
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more responsibility, but there also comes more risk. Living in
a free country with individual usual rights and liberties comes
with the risk, a risk of what happened here today.
And you could say, we don't have to accept that
in an American society and a civilized society in calendar
you're twenty twenty five. It's not that I accept it,
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but you have to accept the risk that with that
level of freedom there are individuals with ill intentions who
are going to take advantage of the oxygen within that
free society and abuse the rights of others. Then you
have to have a series and system of law and order,
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prosecutorial means. But there's two things here. There's obvious mental
illness in this shooter that will explore in the audio
from the video that he posted on social media. Is
there a mechanism a red flag law? I know this
is controversial that can be implemented in which the standard
is high, but with reasonable proof in a court of
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law where an individual has a right to defend his
or herself, that you surrender certain rights and privileges in
this country because you are not equipped to handle that
responsibility that comes with the freedom, meaning if you were
a deranged lunatic, and that's invariably who these shooters are,
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that there is a mechanism in place, there is a
burden of proof upon the accuser and the prosecutor. It
shouldn't just be somebody who's accused by a disenfranchised former
lover or something and said this guy's crazy, he shouldn't
have his guns and then we just take him away
until that guy can prove otherwise. No, but there was
a reasonable proof I think, And somebody had to know
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this guy, that knew he was off, and they would say, well,
I never would have expected that he would do something
like this, but did you have concerns about his mental health?
Somebody out there had to have I read a portion
of this manifesto. He was not well at all. You
can't tell me there wasn't somebody in his orbit that
could have done something, spoken up or taking it a
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bit more seriously. Senator Amy Klobachar Minnesota agrees with Mayor Fry.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I think this image of this gunman shooting through these windows,
picking off these kids while they're praying is something that
it's going to be with people for a long time
when you think about guns and you think about as
the mayor said, thoughts and prayers just aren't enough here
right now because these kids were actually praying.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Play that out, then, Senator Klobshar, Mayor Fry, what are
you going to do?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Then?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Take away all the guns? Is that your solution here?
That's not a realistic solution. We know that, and evildoers
will find a way to get the guns that law
abiding people then will not be able to do. These
gun control laws that they want to implement only affect
those who will follow the gun control laws. Those who
are hell bent on breaking them are going to create
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a disadvantage on the landscape in this country between good
guys with guns and bad guys with guns. All you're
going to affect with those laws. Are good guys with guns.
So you're not getting the intended outcome or is it.
We'll talk more about that with Alicia Garcia boomstick babe.
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Second second syndicate coming up at the bottom of the
hour five seven, seven thirty nine, your chance to opine
you can send those techs. In concluding the General Assembly
special Session with not a lot of solutions in sight,
and I'm afraid to call that out. Our next guest
here she was on the floor of the Senate, Senator
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Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
I would agree with one the good senator from Fort
Collins said that we need to make more spending cuts.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yes, please, please, please.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Please, we need to make more spending cuts. And I
would agree with the good senator from Broomfield who said unfortunately.
I don't think she said unfortunately, but that's how I
heard it, but she basically said spending cuts don't fit
under the call.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
This is not a session that is about spending cuts.
It is a session about increasing taxes or in this case,
taking away a vendor fee and working. As someone else
said in the committee, not one of the good senators
said basically balancing the budget on the backs of small businesses.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
She represents the twenty third district. Republican Senator Barb Kirkmeyer
joins us on Ryan Schuling Live. Senator Kirkmeyer, thank you
as always for your time.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Absolutely happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Now. One of the reasons I turned to you is
I consider you an expert on this subject, being balancing
budgets and looking at revenue and looking at expenses and
trying to come up with something that makes sense. I
know you were trying to do that, but let's start
with one of those things you mentioned towards the end there.
This seemed to cause a ruckus within the General Assembly,
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this vendor fee. Take us through what happened there, why
it happened, and what it means, if you.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Would please sure there was a bill and now it's
passed and I'm sure it's probably getting signed today into law.
So retaillers who collect sales tax on behalf of the state,
we pay them a fee to do that. And in fact,
we pay them a fee that you know we're short
changing them. We pay them one thousand dollars per filing.
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They filed out twelve times a year, so we're paying
them twelve thousand dollars a year to collect taxes on
sales taxes on behalf of the state. They told us
in committee that it costs them four times the amount
that they're getting from us to actually make that collection.
So it's costing them forty eight thousand dollars a year
to collect our sales taxes to be tax collectors, and
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we were paying them twelve thousand. We took that twelve
thousand away. We said, too bad, this is on you.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You can just suck it up.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
You should just think of it as one of your
business expenses. But we're taking that twelve thousand back because
we need to put it into our general fund, you
know category, at least for a half year or so,
or a year basically, because then next year, when it
goes to like ninety one million dollars I think is
what it was, we're going to refund that because we'll
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be over our what's called our taber tap. We'll be
in a refund mode because we'll have a surplus, so
we'll refund it. So we're taking literally a twelve twelve
thousand dollars from businesses. Small businesses thinks, think who who
you pay.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Sales tax to you know.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Clothing stores, the mom and pop uh, you know, coffee shop,
you know, the mechanics shop, whatever, wherever you're paying sales tax,
we're going to call that money back. We're telling you, no,
no more fee. You pay for it yourself. You collect
taxes on our behalf. We're taking all the money. Now,
you're not going to get paid to help us collect taxes.
And then and then after we take that away from you,
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within a year, we'll be refunding it to someone else.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well that it tells me as well, and we can
anticipate this is when you go to some of the
the's locally owned businesses and you use a credit card,
that you're going to be that pass that charge is
going to be passed along to you, to us the consumer,
the customer at these businesses, rather than the businesses having
to absorb them themselves. So it's to your point, Senator Kirkmeyer,
that they're looking for ends around TABOR in order to
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inflict more damage and pain in the form of taxes
or fees or kind of what you outlined right there.
And yet there wasn't it didn't seem to be at
least a serious attempt to address wasteful spending within the
budget of the State of Colorado. Where did that conversation
go and why didn't it go anywhere?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
It didn't go anywhere. First of all, because we're not
in charge of the call. So the governor has the
ability to call us back into sessions, and he sets
the call, which is essentially think of it as our
agenda what we get to write bills to, you know,
to change laws. And so he sets the agenda.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Nowhere in the call.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Nowhere on that agenda did you say we could cut
spending and he doesn't put it there, then we can't
do it. We can't carry a bill. We're outside of
what's called being outside of the call. So we don't
have this.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
We don't have the authority to change that. Only the
governor does.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
So he made it from the get go. This has
never been a session.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
About the budget.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's been a session about raising taxes and fees.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Senator Bob Kirkmeyer, our guest. She is representing the twenty
third district in one of the strongest voices, especially in
this topic in the General Assembly. So the post mortem analysis,
as we look back on this special session, Senator Kirkmeyer,
what is the takeaway here, where does the budget stand
right now? Were they able to reconcile any of it?
Are we still close to one point two billion dollars
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in the negative?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I don't think they basically reconciled any of it, and
I can give you reasons why, but I.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Don't know how much time we have go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
But I'm just okay. So I'm just peoplely concerned this
one party control. They've taken over our budget and they've
taken our state just totally in the wrong direction. Everyone
in Colorado knows they fell it.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
They believe it.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Things are already too expensive. Yet we turn around and
we take a you know where we're reimbursing local local
retaillers to get our pick up our taxes. We're saying, no,
that will probably increase services, increase good that we're paid for.
Right And then at the same time, all they did
in the special session was raised taxes. They added taxes
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back on, which again, you know, we all think that's
going to help fix our budget. But you know, maybe
they added on about two hundred and fifty three million
dollars worth of taxes. But what happens in the next year.
They just made our budget worse, what happens in the
next year, We're going to be refunding because we'll be
over the We'll be over the cap.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
So we're going.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
To tax people more, tax businesses more, small businesses, gets
in some corporations, larger corporations more.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
And then we're just going to refund it.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
And the other thing is they did these things. They
think they're so clever some days, and they're really not.
They did this thing where we are selling two hundred
and fifty million dollars worth of tax credits for two
hundred million dollars. That's another fifty million dollars budget deficit
that I'm going to have in fiscal year twenty six
twenty seven, which starts next July one, in the next year,
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So there's that as well. I mean, they just keep
adding on. And I've heard that the governor is going.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
To come in tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
We have a meeting, the Joint Budget Committee has a
meeting with the governor. I've heard he's going to come
in and he's going to cut spending. I don't know
why he didn't let us cut spending, but he's going
to cut spending and he can do that through an
executive order. And he's going to cut spending. What I've
heard is to higher education. So you know, if you
want to get people out of poverty, man, and you
want to give him a make sure they can get
a great education, get a great job. But he's going
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to cut that. Then he's also going to cut Medicaid
provider rates, which in effect will cut healthcare access to
over one point two billion people in our state. He's
going to do that. And then also what I've heard
is they're going to take money out of the reserves. Well,
we have a law that says our reserves are supposed
to be at fifteen percent. So if you take money
out of the reserves before I can balance, before I
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can draft a long bill and send it over to
the General Assembly for the next fiscal year, I have
to balance this discal year. We will have to repay
that back in this fiscal year. It does us no good.
We're taking money right now. We're going to take money
out of the reserves right now to I guess, pay
our bills, or pay for services that maybe we don't
really need to be doing, or pay for those seven
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thousand new employees that have been hired over the course
of the last seven years and we're just going to
have to replenish it in this diiscal year. It does
us no good. That's what I meant by yesterday when
I said they're just raising taxes and making our budget
situation worse.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's paleah, very bad news. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, a
state trying to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself
up by the handle. And that's what Colorado is doing
right now, not just ticking the can down the road
in preasing the tax burden, disincentivizing businesses from investing here
and setting up shop, and driving down the taxable revenue
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base on not telling Senator Barb Kirkmeyer anything. She doesn't know.
She's trying to fight the good fight, but is in
the shorthanded end of this. It's like hockey. You're short
handed out there, four against five, but it's even worse than that.
And how do you come out of this trying to
get sensible spending cuts and there just isn't cooperation across
the aisle in any way, shape, matter or form from
the Democrats, and they're going to tax us and spend
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us into oblivion. Senator Kirkmeyer. Always grateful for what you do,
and thank you so much for spending the time.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
With me here today, Absolutely anytime, and thank you for
what you're doing to help Coloradowans understand what's going on
in our situation here in the States.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Greatly appreciate you doing my level best, and I know
Senator Kirkmeyer is doing hers as well. Next conversation we
have with her, there's rumors that she may be entering
the gubernatorial race, and I'd like to know some details,
maybe the story behind that, if she's willing to share,
and so when she next returns, that'll be what I
ask a time out when we come back. The boomstick
Babe Alicia Garcia, part of the Second Syndicate gun rights advocate,
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but more than that, a gun instructor. We're going to
get her take on the shooting in Minneapolis today. Still
have that audio from the shooter himself, a manifesto that
he posted online social media. Get your thoughts a reaction
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Fair warning the listeners out there, this audio is disturbing.
It's from a video that's even more disturbing from the
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shooter who has now been identified. Two children killed, fourteen
children and three adults injured in a shooting at a
Catholic church school earlier today in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I took
an excerpt of this that is somewhat informative but comes
from a very mentally unstable place and downright insane place.
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So here that is here's.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
My note to my family angels some English and hope
you can read that. Yeah, Pace, love, unity and guns.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I brought uh. I mean that's the sound of ammunition
he's filtering through.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
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I met Brandon Herrera at Shot show last year. He
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love and peace and accepting differences. I'm sorry to my
family I did. I say that's the only people. I'm
sorry to those kids that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Was the shooter in a video posted on social media.
The FBI and Minneapolis Police are going through a lot
of what he posted, and there was a manifesto that
he wrote. I read a portion of it and as
you could hear, it's going off in a lot of
different directions. Kind of typical lunatic talking points from the leaf,
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Brandon Herrera is known to our next guest will get
her comment in just a moment. He's a firearms manufacturer
and gun advocate. He is a Republican who has run
for office in a primary in Texas for US House.
The rather telling lose on the ammunition, the clips that
he acquired, lots of stuff that he had written on
there including one that said kill Donald Trump. Also another
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that mentioned the name Vicky Weaver, which if you know
that name, it's from the past and is from the
incident at Ruby Ridge. Vicky Weaver was the wife of
Randy Weaver, and she was shot and killed inadvertently by
a sniper in that confrontation. So he's all over the
map here. He's all over the place, and that does
not surprise me in the mind of a deranged lunatic
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like he is. Joining us now. She is a co
founder of the Second Syndicate, a guns instructor and guns
right advocate, joining us as Boonstick Babe on the socials.
She is Alicia Garcia and Ryan Schuling Live Alicia, welcome back.
Sad about the circumstances, but want to get your insight
and input and your response to what you just heard
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from this madman.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
It's very unfortunate because you know, I've met Brandon Herr personally.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
She's a very nice man.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
He actually joined us last year or so when we
were fighting against the assault weapons ban here in the
state of Colorado.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
He was brought out here by Rocky Mountain gun owners.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
He testified he helped promote you know, a gathering down
to show a force against the assault weapons ban. So
I brand it is a very nice man, and I'm
absolutely certain he had nothing to do with this. This
person is just rambling at this point. It's the ramblings
of a mad person. And I think that when when
you start name dropping and things of that nature, sometimes
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I think, you know, and I could be a little controversial,
some people might, you know, call me a conspiracy theorist
or a tinfoil hatter or whatever, but I honestly think
when people create propaganda videos like this before acts of violence,
that they're doing it to help the anti gun narrative, honestly,
because it makes it seem as if people who are
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pro gun are supporting such you know, awful and you
knowistic acts to which we do not. You know, the
entire reason we advocate for the arming of civilians and
you know, our people is to protect and.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Defend, never to commit acts of.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Violence, but to respond to make sure that those violence,
those violent acts cannot be committed upon us. So I
think it's an actual It's just a travecy just to
see such a blatant disrespect for life and somebody who
is obviously insane Alicia.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
There's always a reaction to this and is politicized and
it's polarizing, and the Democrats want to grab the guns,
and the Republicans want to make sure that we have
first responders there and also good guys with guns, civilians
who are armed and trained. In the moment, we can't
guarantee that those people are going to be there, but
the more that are there, the better, the quicker that
a situation like this can be neutralized. So we can
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focus on that aspect of it. There's the moment, right
the moment when these shootings take place, and there's only
not even minutes seconds to react to this, and we
know what we would like to have in the form
of armed security guards, law enforcement personnel, and concealed carry
permit carriers who in the moment could neutralize a target
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like this. So I want you to speak to that
part of it as much as you might know. We
don't know everything about this situation. But he was picking
off kids in a church through a window. We know that,
and then I'll ask you about the front end of
that afterward. But first for that, for your response to that.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
My question to the public and to the people that
are anti gun is Why are we not making our schools.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Hard targets because.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Ninety eight percent of quote unquote mass shootings happen in
gun free zones.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Why do we protect politicians with guns?
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Why do we protect Hollywood actors and singers with guns?
Why do we protect even our groceries at King Soupers
with armed guards? But our kids are sitting there willy nilly, completely.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
You know, open for slaughter.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
You know, I think we have a misappropriation of priority
here and I think we as a community in Colorado
and nationwide, need to step up and change the way
we are treating.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Our kids' schools.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
This is not something that we should be taking lightly.
Our children are the are the greatest asset that we have,
and they are the pure, pure, absolute cloth of innocence
from God's flesh. In my perspective, why don't we have
budget for bulletproof glass.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
For these schools?
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Why do we not have armed guards and security throughout
these schools?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Why is that not normalized?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
And you know, I hear the argument for, oh, we
don't want our.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Kids to feel like they're in prison.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
Why would we make our kids associate in the first
place that protection is something to be ashamed of or
to feel bad about.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
We need to.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Change this narrative because our children are being, you know,
left open to violence.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
And we know I hear.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
People talk about, oh, you know, I'm tired of my
kids having to sit through these active shooters.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Well, all these active shooter drills.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Are doing is also educating possible active shooters.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
On what to do when more vulnerability is going to sit.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Why are we not saying, hey, you know what, if
you're going to attack our kids, we are going to
make sure that that is the last thing that you
ever do and harden those targets. Because, as somebody who
advocates for self defense and protection and defense, I often
ask if you are a criminal and you want to
come in an act.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Of violence, you know you have two victims.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
One you know is armed, the other one you know
is and who do you think.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
You're going to choose?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's exactly right, Alicia Garcia. The second Syndicate dot Com
is where you can find her website, The two nd
Syndicate dot Com. So, Alicia, final question, This one's a
lot trickier because in theory, if the bar was high enough,
I don't want mentally ill people to have access to
guns the way that the normal, everyday American would have
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a Second Amendment right to own, possess, maintain. However, with
a red flag law in place here in Colorado, we
know that the LGBTQ deranged club shooter down in Colorado
Springs evaded a red flag law order in which he
should have had his guns confiscated they were not. To
what end would you support ensuring that the mentally ill,
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those who are deemed to be a threat to themselves, society, etc.
Should have their inherent constitutional rights to keep in bear
arms infringed upon, because that's what it would be. Is
there a standard that would take on a fairness level
with you that you would advocate for or not.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Well, that's a very controversial question, and I'm going to
give a very.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Controversial answer because I'm an.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Honest person, and you know the reason I do this
is because I am a dirty civilian. You know, I'm
not law enforcement, I'm not military.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
I'm a born in britt Colorado native and.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I'm tired of seeing our people and our children.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Be put at risk.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
So to me, it's quite obvious that these laws don't
stop crime from happening.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
They don't all they do.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Is innudate people with the cost of the legislation and
attacking people and putting good people at risk for malus
and we have seen that happen in the past, and
they don't stop anything from happen. When people have ill intentions,
they are going to try to find a way to
make their desires manifest. My response to that is those
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people should die. And I'm sorry that that's harsh to
hear for people, but the truth is they should know
that if they intentionally harm somebody, then they are allowing
that person, instead of being a victim, to respond in
self defense and to fight back and neutralize that threat.
They should know that in committing acts of violence, they
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are risking their life and in an act of committing violence,
they should be neutralized in that act. And I think
if we had harsher penalties and they knew that victims
were armed, maybe they would think twice about committing those acts.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
And in the times that they.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Don't, they lose the ability to commit acts of violence
because they cease to no longer exist. For me, I
think we need to start being more solution oriented as
a community. And one of the things that I like
to see happen and that I am and my counterparts
at the Second Syndicate and with Faster Colorado are doing.
We are starting a fundraiser. We are hoping to fundraise
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anywhere from six to ten thousand dollars in the next
few months.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Feel free to go to.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
The Second Syndicate dot com and donate there because we
would like to arm and educate and empower anywhere from
four to six teachers in the state of Colorado who
would like to volunteer to go through the Faster program.
The Faster Program in Colorado arms teachers that are in
Colorado schools, so we would like to take that burden
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of the cost of one thousand dollars of training off
of them.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
We would like to supply them with.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
The firearm, the gear, and the training essential to do that.
Because we are solution oriented and we want to fight
back and this is our way that we can find
solutions without having the government have to step in.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Always well spoken on the issue. The website v two
nd Syndicate dot com the Second Syndicate dot com and
you can follow her on all the socials at Boonstead Babe.
She is Alicia Garcia, one of the foremost Second Amendment
rights advocates in the state of Colorado. Alicia, thanks for
all you do and thanks for your time today.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Thank you as always, Ryan, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
All Right, a timeout, we're back your tax five seven
seven thirty nine, wrapping up our number one of Ryan
schuling live on this difficult day. A shooting in Minneapolis
at a Catholic church and school by a deranged individual
who posted a manifesto and a video online. We played
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you a portion of that audio, and this obviously was
a person who was mentally ill. This Texter at five
seven seven three nine says wah who to Alicia, those
people should die. This one, says Alicia, is so right
regarding schools. Maybe the teachers should give up some of
their money. Sorry, I'm against the teachers associations too political.
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Another when guns are outlawed, only all laws have guns.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I hate to kind of fall into that Wild West mentality,
but it's a realistic one of the world we live
in and the world we've inherited, and that cost of freedom,
and there is one we could live in, a totalitarian
society that revoked the rights to all guns and lived
under the thumb of the powers that be telling us
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what we can and cannot do. But that's not what
we were founded upon the right to bear arms with
the Second Amendment for a reason. It's there to protect
the first and the right to keep and bear arms
shall not be infringed. That's why I thought Alicia handled
with a plum that difficult question about would you support
a red flag law in any form, and she flatly
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said no because she does not believe that they work.
An evidence of that, as I cited, was down there
in College Rotto Springs during the Club Q shooting, when
a person who identified as trans not so sure about that,
but should have been red flagged and wasn't, despite the
law already being in place. A timeout hour two straight ahead.
Right here, I'm Ryan Jewling Live
Earlier today, just before eight thirty am, our city experienced
an unthinkable tragedy. Minneapolis police officers responded to a report
of a shooting at a mass that was happening at
the Annunciation Roman Catholic Church on the block behind me.
This worship service was marking the first week of school
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for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During
the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the
side of the building and began firing a rifle through
the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews
at the mess. Shooting through the windows, he struck children
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and worshipers that were inside the building. The shooter was
armed with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. This
was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and
other people worshiping. The sheer, cruelty and cowardice firing into
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a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible. Police officers
from the Minneapolis Police Department immediately responded, entered the church
and attempted to provide first aid and rescue some of
the children that were hiding throughout the building, while other
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first responders came and ems responded to rush victims to
nearby hospitals. Two young children, ages eight and ten, were
killed where they sat in the pews. Their parents have
been notified. Seventeen other people were injured, fourteen of them
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being children.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Two of those children are in condition.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own
life in the rear of the church. Our hearts are
broken for the families who have lost their children, for
these young lives that are now fighting to recover, and
for our entire community that has been so deeply traumatized
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by this senseless attack. We will stand together to protect
our children, our schools, and our houses of worship. This
deliberate act of violence is just a sign of cruelty
that is beyond comprehension.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Our hearts.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Our hearts are broken for everyone that's been affected by
this tragedy. As we begin the difficult path of healing,
I want the community to know this that even in
the face of such evil, the Minneapolis Police and all
of our law enforcement partners stand with our community.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That was Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara earlier today at
a press conference beginning it with details after this mass
shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic School Chief O'Hara handling this
extremely well. He then took questions very directly from the
media assembled there. And it's during times like these that
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we always hope to pause and wait and know that
there are certain things that we know that we don't know,
and then there are other things that we don't know.
What we don't know yet, but there are some facts,
some evidence being revealed because the shooter himself there reports
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that this is an individual who's confused about his gender identity.
You will hear in a moment a very disturbing being
portion audio from the video that the shooter posted on
social media. There was a manifesto that he wrote, the
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biological male. So I'm not going to play the games
of the pronoun crap. If you're an individual, if you're
a demon that perpetrates an act like this, not going
to respect your pronouns, your gender identity, anything else. I
don't think anybody else should either. But is that a
factor much more in the form of questions that we
have answers at this point. You hate to politicize this,
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but it almost in real time happens, and that is
certainly the case here today and we'll start with that
from Minneapolis mayor democrat Jacob Fry. You may remember him
from the George Floyd riots and his handling of that,
or lack thereof, anyway, he had this to say about
thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
These kids were literally praying. It was the.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
First week of school, they were in a church. These
are kids that should be learning with their friends. They
should be playing on the playground. They should be able
to go to school or church in peace without the
fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have
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the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of
basic assurances every family should have every step of the day,
regardless of where they are in our country.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's some righteous indignation there, some righteous anger from Jacob Fry.
I don't blame him for being angry, But who or
what is he angry at. He appears to be angry
at two things, one religion in general. Don't just say
this is about thoughts and prayers right now. Well, don't
you say that it's not. I don't know why this
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is a zero sum. I don't know why this is
mutually exclusive. I know that when I've gone through tough times,
the death of my mother, some very different cult breakups,
that when somebody says Ryan, I'll be praying for you,
I welcome that. It's not an end all be all.
Doesn't solve everything, but you don't want to just castigate
it and dismiss it out of hand. He seems to
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be also mad at the guns, the firearms, the firearms,
rather than the individual who committed this act. And if
he was angry at that person, he apparently believes we
can live in a world where there will be no evil,
and there will be no evil doers, and there will
be no criminals with bad intentions demonic. In fact, that
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is not a real world within which we live. That
is not reality. So what do we do? We're faced
with how do we handle and confront reality? And especially
in a free country. The libertarian and me will say
the following that we live on a continuum or spectrum
between complete and total freedom, which would indicate anarchy and
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off the rails, no laws, free for all. We don't
want to live in a world like that, But short
of that, we want to live in a reasonably free
society that we were guaranteed by our Founding Fathers and
the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the rights therein that
we have individual rights and liberties upon which those will
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not be infringed by our government. So that's one portion
of that spectrum in that direction. In the other direction,
you have order, complete and total order, and you can
have that in a totalitarian regime in which you have
no individual rights. But there's always going to be a
gray area within which most people and most nations on
this planet live. And with more freedom, yes, there comes
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more responsibility, but there also comes more risk. Living in
a free country with individual usual rights and liberties comes
with the risk, a risk of what happened here today.
And you could say, we don't have to accept that
in an American society and a civilized society in calendar
you're twenty twenty five. It's not that I accept it,
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but you have to accept the risk that with that
level of freedom there are individuals with ill intentions who
are going to take advantage of the oxygen within that
free society and abuse the rights of others. Then you
have to have a series and system of law and order,
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prosecutorial means. But there's two things here. There's obvious mental
illness in this shooter that will explore in the audio
from the video that he posted on social media. Is
there a mechanism a red flag law? I know this
is controversial that can be implemented in which the standard
is high, but with reasonable proof in a court of
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law where an individual has a right to defend his
or herself, that you surrender certain rights and privileges in
this country because you are not equipped to handle that
responsibility that comes with the freedom, meaning if you were
a deranged lunatic, and that's invariably who these shooters are,
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that there is a mechanism in place, there is a
burden of proof upon the accuser and the prosecutor. It
shouldn't just be somebody who's accused by a disenfranchised former
lover or something and said this guy's crazy, he shouldn't
have his guns and then we just take him away
until that guy can prove otherwise. No, but there was
a reasonable proof I think, And somebody had to know
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this guy, that knew he was off, and they would say, well,
I never would have expected that he would do something
like this, but did you have concerns about his mental health?
Somebody out there had to have I read a portion
of this manifesto. He was not well at all. You
can't tell me there wasn't somebody in his orbit that
could have done something, spoken up or taking it a
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bit more seriously. Senator Amy Klobachar Minnesota agrees with Mayor Fry.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I think this image of this gunman shooting through these windows,
picking off these kids while they're praying is something that
it's going to be with people for a long time
when you think about guns and you think about as
the mayor said, thoughts and prayers just aren't enough here
right now because these kids were actually praying.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Play that out, then, Senator Klobshar, Mayor Fry, what are
you going to do?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Then?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Take away all the guns? Is that your solution here?
That's not a realistic solution. We know that, and evildoers
will find a way to get the guns that law
abiding people then will not be able to do. These
gun control laws that they want to implement only affect
those who will follow the gun control laws. Those who
are hell bent on breaking them are going to create
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a disadvantage on the landscape in this country between good
guys with guns and bad guys with guns. All you're
going to affect with those laws. Are good guys with guns.
So you're not getting the intended outcome or is it.
We'll talk more about that with Alicia Garcia boomstick babe.
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Second second syndicate coming up at the bottom of the
hour five seven, seven thirty nine, your chance to opine
you can send those techs. In concluding the General Assembly
special Session with not a lot of solutions in sight,
and I'm afraid to call that out. Our next guest
here she was on the floor of the Senate, Senator
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Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
I would agree with one the good senator from Fort
Collins said that we need to make more spending cuts.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yes, please, please, please.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Please, we need to make more spending cuts. And I
would agree with the good senator from Broomfield who said unfortunately.
I don't think she said unfortunately, but that's how I
heard it, but she basically said spending cuts don't fit
under the call.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
This is not a session that is about spending cuts.
It is a session about increasing taxes or in this case,
taking away a vendor fee and working. As someone else
said in the committee, not one of the good senators
said basically balancing the budget on the backs of small businesses.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
She represents the twenty third district. Republican Senator Barb Kirkmeyer
joins us on Ryan Schuling Live. Senator Kirkmeyer, thank you
as always for your time.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Absolutely happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Now. One of the reasons I turned to you is
I consider you an expert on this subject, being balancing
budgets and looking at revenue and looking at expenses and
trying to come up with something that makes sense. I
know you were trying to do that, but let's start
with one of those things you mentioned towards the end there.
This seemed to cause a ruckus within the General Assembly,
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this vendor fee. Take us through what happened there, why
it happened, and what it means, if you.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Would please sure there was a bill and now it's
passed and I'm sure it's probably getting signed today into law.
So retaillers who collect sales tax on behalf of the state,
we pay them a fee to do that. And in fact,
we pay them a fee that you know we're short
changing them. We pay them one thousand dollars per filing.
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They filed out twelve times a year, so we're paying
them twelve thousand dollars a year to collect taxes on
sales taxes on behalf of the state. They told us
in committee that it costs them four times the amount
that they're getting from us to actually make that collection.
So it's costing them forty eight thousand dollars a year
to collect our sales taxes to be tax collectors, and
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we were paying them twelve thousand. We took that twelve
thousand away. We said, too bad, this is on you.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You can just suck it up.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
You should just think of it as one of your
business expenses. But we're taking that twelve thousand back because
we need to put it into our general fund, you
know category, at least for a half year or so,
or a year basically, because then next year, when it
goes to like ninety one million dollars I think is
what it was, we're going to refund that because we'll
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be over our what's called our taber tap. We'll be
in a refund mode because we'll have a surplus, so
we'll refund it. So we're taking literally a twelve twelve
thousand dollars from businesses. Small businesses thinks, think who who
you pay.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Sales tax to you know.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Clothing stores, the mom and pop uh, you know, coffee shop,
you know, the mechanics shop, whatever, wherever you're paying sales tax,
we're going to call that money back. We're telling you, no,
no more fee. You pay for it yourself. You collect
taxes on our behalf. We're taking all the money. Now,
you're not going to get paid to help us collect taxes.
And then and then after we take that away from you,
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within a year, we'll be refunding it to someone else.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well that it tells me as well, and we can
anticipate this is when you go to some of the
the's locally owned businesses and you use a credit card,
that you're going to be that pass that charge is
going to be passed along to you, to us the consumer,
the customer at these businesses, rather than the businesses having
to absorb them themselves. So it's to your point, Senator Kirkmeyer,
that they're looking for ends around TABOR in order to
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inflict more damage and pain in the form of taxes
or fees or kind of what you outlined right there.
And yet there wasn't it didn't seem to be at
least a serious attempt to address wasteful spending within the
budget of the State of Colorado. Where did that conversation
go and why didn't it go anywhere?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
It didn't go anywhere. First of all, because we're not
in charge of the call. So the governor has the
ability to call us back into sessions, and he sets
the call, which is essentially think of it as our
agenda what we get to write bills to, you know,
to change laws. And so he sets the agenda.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Nowhere in the call.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Nowhere on that agenda did you say we could cut
spending and he doesn't put it there, then we can't
do it. We can't carry a bill. We're outside of
what's called being outside of the call. So we don't
have this.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
We don't have the authority to change that. Only the
governor does.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
So he made it from the get go. This has
never been a session.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
About the budget.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's been a session about raising taxes and fees.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Senator Bob Kirkmeyer, our guest. She is representing the twenty
third district in one of the strongest voices, especially in
this topic in the General Assembly. So the post mortem analysis,
as we look back on this special session, Senator Kirkmeyer,
what is the takeaway here, where does the budget stand
right now? Were they able to reconcile any of it?
Are we still close to one point two billion dollars
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in the negative?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I don't think they basically reconciled any of it, and
I can give you reasons why, but I.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Don't know how much time we have go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
But I'm just okay. So I'm just peoplely concerned this
one party control. They've taken over our budget and they've
taken our state just totally in the wrong direction. Everyone
in Colorado knows they fell it.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
They believe it.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Things are already too expensive. Yet we turn around and
we take a you know where we're reimbursing local local
retaillers to get our pick up our taxes. We're saying, no,
that will probably increase services, increase good that we're paid for.
Right And then at the same time, all they did
in the special session was raised taxes. They added taxes
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back on, which again, you know, we all think that's
going to help fix our budget. But you know, maybe
they added on about two hundred and fifty three million
dollars worth of taxes. But what happens in the next year.
They just made our budget worse, what happens in the
next year, We're going to be refunding because we'll be
over the We'll be over the cap.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
So we're going.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
To tax people more, tax businesses more, small businesses, gets
in some corporations, larger corporations more.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
And then we're just going to refund it.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
And the other thing is they did these things. They
think they're so clever some days, and they're really not.
They did this thing where we are selling two hundred
and fifty million dollars worth of tax credits for two
hundred million dollars. That's another fifty million dollars budget deficit
that I'm going to have in fiscal year twenty six
twenty seven, which starts next July one, in the next year,
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So there's that as well. I mean, they just keep
adding on. And I've heard that the governor is going.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
To come in tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
We have a meeting, the Joint Budget Committee has a
meeting with the governor. I've heard he's going to come
in and he's going to cut spending. I don't know
why he didn't let us cut spending, but he's going
to cut spending and he can do that through an
executive order. And he's going to cut spending. What I've
heard is to higher education. So you know, if you
want to get people out of poverty, man, and you
want to give him a make sure they can get
a great education, get a great job. But he's going
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to cut that. Then he's also going to cut Medicaid
provider rates, which in effect will cut healthcare access to
over one point two billion people in our state. He's
going to do that. And then also what I've heard
is they're going to take money out of the reserves. Well,
we have a law that says our reserves are supposed
to be at fifteen percent. So if you take money
out of the reserves before I can balance, before I
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can draft a long bill and send it over to
the General Assembly for the next fiscal year, I have
to balance this discal year. We will have to repay
that back in this fiscal year. It does us no good.
We're taking money right now. We're going to take money
out of the reserves right now to I guess, pay
our bills, or pay for services that maybe we don't
really need to be doing, or pay for those seven
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thousand new employees that have been hired over the course
of the last seven years and we're just going to
have to replenish it in this diiscal year. It does
us no good. That's what I meant by yesterday when
I said they're just raising taxes and making our budget
situation worse.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's paleah, very bad news. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, a
state trying to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself
up by the handle. And that's what Colorado is doing
right now, not just ticking the can down the road
in preasing the tax burden, disincentivizing businesses from investing here
and setting up shop, and driving down the taxable revenue
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base on not telling Senator Barb Kirkmeyer anything. She doesn't know.
She's trying to fight the good fight, but is in
the shorthanded end of this. It's like hockey. You're short
handed out there, four against five, but it's even worse than that.
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maybe the story behind that, if she's willing to share,
and so when she next returns, that'll be what I
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have that audio from the shooter himself, a manifesto that
he posted online social media. Get your thoughts a reaction
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Fair warning the listeners out there, this audio is disturbing.
It's from a video that's even more disturbing from the
(23:16):
shooter who has now been identified. Two children killed, fourteen
children and three adults injured in a shooting at a
Catholic church school earlier today in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I took
an excerpt of this that is somewhat informative but comes
from a very mentally unstable place and downright insane place.
(23:38):
So here that is here's.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
My note to my family angels some English and hope
you can read that. Yeah, Pace, love, unity and guns.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I brought uh. I mean that's the sound of ammunition
he's filtering through.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
This message brought to you by black Rock and Exceon
Mobile sponsored by PABs Blue ribbon. Uh Brandon Herrera for President. Yeah.
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I met Brandon Herrera at Shot show last year. He
and I had a conversation, a brief conversation, but like
we agreed on a lot of things. So y'all should
vote for Brandon Herrera for president and vintage warfare promote
(25:06):
love and peace and accepting differences. I'm sorry to my
family I did. I say that's the only people. I'm
sorry to those kids that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Was the shooter in a video posted on social media.
The FBI and Minneapolis Police are going through a lot
of what he posted, and there was a manifesto that
he wrote. I read a portion of it and as
you could hear, it's going off in a lot of
different directions. Kind of typical lunatic talking points from the leaf,
dex on mobile energy, black Rock would be another one.
(25:45):
Brandon Herrera is known to our next guest will get
her comment in just a moment. He's a firearms manufacturer
and gun advocate. He is a Republican who has run
for office in a primary in Texas for US House.
The rather telling lose on the ammunition, the clips that
he acquired, lots of stuff that he had written on
there including one that said kill Donald Trump. Also another
(26:10):
that mentioned the name Vicky Weaver, which if you know
that name, it's from the past and is from the
incident at Ruby Ridge. Vicky Weaver was the wife of
Randy Weaver, and she was shot and killed inadvertently by
a sniper in that confrontation. So he's all over the
map here. He's all over the place, and that does
not surprise me in the mind of a deranged lunatic
(26:31):
like he is. Joining us now. She is a co
founder of the Second Syndicate, a guns instructor and guns
right advocate, joining us as Boonstick Babe on the socials.
She is Alicia Garcia and Ryan Schuling Live Alicia, welcome back.
Sad about the circumstances, but want to get your insight
and input and your response to what you just heard
(26:51):
from this madman.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
It's very unfortunate because you know, I've met Brandon Herr personally.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
She's a very nice man.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
He actually joined us last year or so when we
were fighting against the assault weapons ban here in the
state of Colorado.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
He was brought out here by Rocky Mountain gun owners.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
He testified he helped promote you know, a gathering down
to show a force against the assault weapons ban. So
I brand it is a very nice man, and I'm
absolutely certain he had nothing to do with this. This
person is just rambling at this point. It's the ramblings
of a mad person. And I think that when when
you start name dropping and things of that nature, sometimes
(27:32):
I think, you know, and I could be a little controversial,
some people might, you know, call me a conspiracy theorist
or a tinfoil hatter or whatever, but I honestly think
when people create propaganda videos like this before acts of violence,
that they're doing it to help the anti gun narrative, honestly,
because it makes it seem as if people who are
(27:54):
pro gun are supporting such you know, awful and you
knowistic acts to which we do not. You know, the
entire reason we advocate for the arming of civilians and
you know, our people is to protect and.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Defend, never to commit acts of.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Violence, but to respond to make sure that those violence,
those violent acts cannot be committed upon us. So I
think it's an actual It's just a travecy just to
see such a blatant disrespect for life and somebody who
is obviously insane Alicia.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
There's always a reaction to this and is politicized and
it's polarizing, and the Democrats want to grab the guns,
and the Republicans want to make sure that we have
first responders there and also good guys with guns, civilians
who are armed and trained. In the moment, we can't
guarantee that those people are going to be there, but
the more that are there, the better, the quicker that
a situation like this can be neutralized. So we can
(28:49):
focus on that aspect of it. There's the moment, right
the moment when these shootings take place, and there's only
not even minutes seconds to react to this, and we
know what we would like to have in the form
of armed security guards, law enforcement personnel, and concealed carry
permit carriers who in the moment could neutralize a target
(29:09):
like this. So I want you to speak to that
part of it as much as you might know. We
don't know everything about this situation. But he was picking
off kids in a church through a window. We know that,
and then I'll ask you about the front end of
that afterward. But first for that, for your response to that.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
My question to the public and to the people that
are anti gun is Why are we not making our schools.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Hard targets because.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Ninety eight percent of quote unquote mass shootings happen in
gun free zones.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Why do we protect politicians with guns?
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Why do we protect Hollywood actors and singers with guns?
Why do we protect even our groceries at King Soupers
with armed guards? But our kids are sitting there willy nilly, completely.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
You know, open for slaughter.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
You know, I think we have a misappropriation of priority
here and I think we as a community in Colorado
and nationwide, need to step up and change the way
we are treating.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Our kids' schools.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
This is not something that we should be taking lightly.
Our children are the are the greatest asset that we have,
and they are the pure, pure, absolute cloth of innocence
from God's flesh. In my perspective, why don't we have
budget for bulletproof glass.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
For these schools?
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Why do we not have armed guards and security throughout
these schools?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Why is that not normalized?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
And you know, I hear the argument for, oh, we
don't want our.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Kids to feel like they're in prison.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
Why would we make our kids associate in the first
place that protection is something to be ashamed of or
to feel bad about.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
We need to.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Change this narrative because our children are being, you know,
left open to violence.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
And we know I hear.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
People talk about, oh, you know, I'm tired of my
kids having to sit through these active shooters.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Well, all these active shooter drills.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Are doing is also educating possible active shooters.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
On what to do when more vulnerability is going to sit.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Why are we not saying, hey, you know what, if
you're going to attack our kids, we are going to
make sure that that is the last thing that you
ever do and harden those targets. Because, as somebody who
advocates for self defense and protection and defense, I often
ask if you are a criminal and you want to
come in an act.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Of violence, you know you have two victims.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
One you know is armed, the other one you know
is and who do you think.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
You're going to choose?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's exactly right, Alicia Garcia. The second Syndicate dot Com
is where you can find her website, The two nd
Syndicate dot Com. So, Alicia, final question, This one's a
lot trickier because in theory, if the bar was high enough,
I don't want mentally ill people to have access to
guns the way that the normal, everyday American would have
(31:56):
a Second Amendment right to own, possess, maintain. However, with
a red flag law in place here in Colorado, we
know that the LGBTQ deranged club shooter down in Colorado
Springs evaded a red flag law order in which he
should have had his guns confiscated they were not. To
what end would you support ensuring that the mentally ill,
(32:20):
those who are deemed to be a threat to themselves, society, etc.
Should have their inherent constitutional rights to keep in bear
arms infringed upon, because that's what it would be. Is
there a standard that would take on a fairness level
with you that you would advocate for or not.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Well, that's a very controversial question, and I'm going to
give a very.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Controversial answer because I'm an.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Honest person, and you know the reason I do this
is because I am a dirty civilian. You know, I'm
not law enforcement, I'm not military.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
I'm a born in britt Colorado native and.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I'm tired of seeing our people and our children.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Be put at risk.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
So to me, it's quite obvious that these laws don't
stop crime from happening.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
They don't all they do.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Is innudate people with the cost of the legislation and
attacking people and putting good people at risk for malus
and we have seen that happen in the past, and
they don't stop anything from happen. When people have ill intentions,
they are going to try to find a way to
make their desires manifest. My response to that is those
(33:29):
people should die. And I'm sorry that that's harsh to
hear for people, but the truth is they should know
that if they intentionally harm somebody, then they are allowing
that person, instead of being a victim, to respond in
self defense and to fight back and neutralize that threat.
They should know that in committing acts of violence, they
(33:49):
are risking their life and in an act of committing violence,
they should be neutralized in that act. And I think
if we had harsher penalties and they knew that victims
were armed, maybe they would think twice about committing those acts.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
And in the times that they.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Don't, they lose the ability to commit acts of violence
because they cease to no longer exist. For me, I
think we need to start being more solution oriented as
a community. And one of the things that I like
to see happen and that I am and my counterparts
at the Second Syndicate and with Faster Colorado are doing.
We are starting a fundraiser. We are hoping to fundraise
(34:24):
anywhere from six to ten thousand dollars in the next
few months.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Feel free to go to.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
The Second Syndicate dot com and donate there because we
would like to arm and educate and empower anywhere from
four to six teachers in the state of Colorado who
would like to volunteer to go through the Faster program.
The Faster Program in Colorado arms teachers that are in
Colorado schools, so we would like to take that burden
(34:49):
of the cost of one thousand dollars of training off
of them.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
We would like to supply them with.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
The firearm, the gear, and the training essential to do that.
Because we are solution oriented and we want to fight
back and this is our way that we can find
solutions without having the government have to step in.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Always well spoken on the issue. The website v two
nd Syndicate dot com the Second Syndicate dot com and
you can follow her on all the socials at Boonstead Babe.
She is Alicia Garcia, one of the foremost Second Amendment
rights advocates in the state of Colorado. Alicia, thanks for
all you do and thanks for your time today.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Thank you as always, Ryan, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
All Right, a timeout, we're back your tax five seven
seven thirty nine, wrapping up our number one of Ryan
schuling live on this difficult day. A shooting in Minneapolis
at a Catholic church and school by a deranged individual
who posted a manifesto and a video online. We played
(35:45):
you a portion of that audio, and this obviously was
a person who was mentally ill. This Texter at five
seven seven three nine says wah who to Alicia, those
people should die. This one, says Alicia, is so right
regarding schools. Maybe the teachers should give up some of
their money. Sorry, I'm against the teachers associations too political.
(36:07):
Another when guns are outlawed, only all laws have guns.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I hate to kind of fall into that Wild West mentality,
but it's a realistic one of the world we live
in and the world we've inherited, and that cost of freedom,
and there is one we could live in, a totalitarian
society that revoked the rights to all guns and lived
under the thumb of the powers that be telling us
(36:32):
what we can and cannot do. But that's not what
we were founded upon the right to bear arms with
the Second Amendment for a reason. It's there to protect
the first and the right to keep and bear arms
shall not be infringed. That's why I thought Alicia handled
with a plum that difficult question about would you support
a red flag law in any form, and she flatly
(36:54):
said no because she does not believe that they work.
An evidence of that, as I cited, was down there
in College Rotto Springs during the Club Q shooting, when
a person who identified as trans not so sure about that,
but should have been red flagged and wasn't, despite the
law already being in place. A timeout hour two straight ahead.
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