July 11, 2025 • 33 mins
Stephen L. Miller, host of the Versus media podcast, joins Ryan to discuss the mysterious handling of the Jeffrey Epstein 'files' by the Trump administration, a defiantly 'woke' Superman film opening in theaters Friday, and the mainstream media's attempt to 'Katrina' the response to disastrous floods in Texas.
Then, member of the Thompson Valley School District Board, Nancy Rumfelt, joins the show to discuss the allegations against Ron Weinberg.
Then, member of the Thompson Valley School District Board, Nancy Rumfelt, joins the show to discuss the allegations against Ron Weinberg.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not an immigrants.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
They're trying to to equate those things together, which I
think is ridiculous because of the current politicization of that situation.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
James gun is not the kind of guy who's going
to put an American flag in his front yard during
Fourth of July, and that's the kind of guy you
need to be to create Superman. I did not like
this movie at all. Every man in this movie is weak,
and he cries, Chris.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
There's one silver lining here which I think you touched.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Doll dresses, short skirts, high heels, cleavage.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Thank you, James Gunn for that.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hollywood's has been trying to remove masculinity for it seems
like the last decade. Once again, it needs to be
white boy summer to bring people back to the box office.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think that's a funny term. You hear the term
white girl summer. You know, it's like, you know, white claus,
no laws. That's what Kelly says all the time. No,
she doesn't. She I'm just putting words in her mouth. Three.
He's giving me that look right now. But talking about
halcionic days of the two thousands, kind of the epic
era of raunchy rivaled comedies, like old School and wedding
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crashers and tropic thunder movies that broke the rules, that
didn't play by any rules, that were very Step Brothers.
That was another one. I mean, I'm listing, like all
of Zach's favorite movies. I think from the two thousands,
Revenge of the Nerds. That's not the two thousands, that's
the nineteen eighties. That wasn't even a zygo.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You're leaving out a bunch of the one that's way
back when Revenge.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Of the Nerds come on. You can't leave those. You
are going back a whole generation. I'm talking about the
young folks out there now, Zach, you're Have you seen
the movies I just mentioned, because I keep forgetting you're
a gen z literally, Zach z there it is and
you were but a wee lad when a lot of
these movies came out. Have you gone back and watched them? Yeah,
I've seen most of those, if not all of them. Okay,
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you're a fan, Yeah, definitely, there's their comedy classic. Thank
you very much, Zach for reinforcing the message that I
am putting out there today. But we've gotten into this
woke era and gotten into the weeds and waded into
the waters, and it's being injected into this new Superman
film for no reason at all. This could have been
a summer blockbuster to beat all others because there wasn't
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a lot of competition around it. Here in mid July,
and yet here comes James Gunn and Steven L. Miller
our next guest. You can listen to his podcast Versus
Media on substack. This is part of his header there.
It says my review of James Gunn's new superhero film
about James Gunn titled James Gunman Steven EL Miller on
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Ryan Schuling. Why Steven welcome.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, that's a good summation of the film.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I can go.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, we've been talking, we've been talking about this.
It drops in theaters today and over the weekend. I
guess drop might be the operative word here as well.
And just why a director in this instance? I mean,
the subject matter speaks for itself. It's iconic, there's a
canon of this, It's been reinvented so many times. It's
not like you're introducing a new superhero into the ethos
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the pantheon of all these characters, and it somehow he
made it about him. Does that surprise you? Or with
James Gunn? Does it not?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Not?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
With James Gunn, There's a lot of problems with this film.
I'm going to push back on you a little bit.
So I did see an advanced screening of this before
it came out today, and I'm funneled as to why
he decided to put his foot in his mouth about
this movie about an immigrant story, because it really isn't.
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I think what Jam's Gunn is doing in this filmcase's
he wrote. He created this film for his friends in
the media, and he is somebody who is on Twitter
and online a lot. He's terminally online when it comes
to places like Instagram, and I think he made this
movie to Twitter proof.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
It and to media proof it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So when he says that this is very much an
immigrant story, he is fully narrative that he sees online
interviews that topic doesn't really come into play in this film.
I would argue he gets this character wrong for several
more important reasons. There is this kind of subtle weaving
of progressive scenes throughout. There is definitely an illusion and
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an analogy to the Israeli military mowing down or brown
people with rocks. That is definitely something that's in the
film and says I've been telling people that's a bigger
deal to me than this idea of what is Superman.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
And he does some things in.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
The film that if you are a staunch supporter of
the comic book or the character, he does do some
things that will make you fish shakingly angry the end
of the day. This isn't really a Superman films. If
you're familiar with James Gunn, he did Guardians of Galaxy,
He's done Suicide Squad, He's done these movies where he
is the most important thing about the film. It's his style,
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it's the way he films things. It's his quirky sensibilities.
It's a quirky sense of humor. And Superman isn't wacky
Souperman can be campy, he can be earnest, he can
be stoic, he can be noble, but he doesn't exist
in like this universe of wackiness like the Guardians of
the Galaxy do. And this movie pretty much exactly like
those every kind of James Gunn movie cliches in this film,
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and it really does. He does fancy himself as I'm
actually the star of this. I'm the most important thing
about not only this franchise, in this movie. This is
supposed to be DC's big and pole relaunch. This is
supposed to be, you know, the launch of a brand
new universe. All of the actors that we just saw
are gone. He's recasting Wonder Woman and Batman and I
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sit there and I wonder, how is a character like
Batman going to fit into this wacky new Zaney universe.
And so it's going to be interesting to watch. If
you like his films and you like him, which is
more important, it's not necessarily his films, and you might
like this. There isn't so much a level of wokeness
in this as much as there is. There are definitely
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themes of like I said, a Gaza versus Israel with
you can guess who the bad guy is, and a
few more. But he really did kind of unnecessarily put
his foot in his mouth because I think he's just
trying to please journalists. If for those of you out there,
just I'm going to spoil one thing. Jake Tapper has
a cameo in this movie.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Follow him on exit there. It is ruined the whole thing.
I was so high on it coming in Otherwise, at
Red Ste's on Ax Steven L. Miller, our guest host
of the Versus Media podcast, you can catch it on
his substack. He gets into detail on this as he
just did, but even more so. And your repost here
stood out to me, Stephen. A guy named John tweeted
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at you, and I thought very accurately here saying Superman
in Cannon does not identify as an alien or immigrant.
He is always fully assimilated and considers himself a citizen
of Earth and of the United States. He has barely
any knowledge of Krypton other than what he was told,
but considers Mon Pod Kent his real parents. And you
add to that, and I'm thinking about this as well.
There are so many areas and directions that one can
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go with the Superman story, the origin story on Krypton
and the original film the late seventies where Marlon Brando
portrays Jourel and he has a feud on that planet
whether or not it's going to end, and he saves
his son and sends him to Earth, and then that
whole story became a spinoff television series called Smallville and
Clark Kent's youth growing up in small town America, in
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Kansas with the Kents and becoming a man under those circumstances.
You can explore that. So you were talking a little
bit in your post here about butchering Superman's origin story.
How does James gun go about doing that?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's a pretty I'm not gonna go I'm not going
to go into that as a spoiler. He kind of
flips what Drorell is on its head, and it's a
pretty big deal. And for you know, the movie wants
you to believe one thing and with let Luthor, but
it really does. I can't tell you because it's kind
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of a big deal. But he does butcher that idea
origin of Krypton and who Drell is and what Krypton was,
and again, you know, he sends his only child to
Earth to you know, survive and take on some of
the characteristics of Krypton. And again you're right, he's he's
a character who as I've said, and I've been getting,
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you know, replies thrown at me where I've said, a
Superman is an orphan first, he's an American, second, he's
an alien third, and he's an immigrant force generally in
that order. So this is the big immigrant push about
and this is where I take issue again. It's not
so much in the film that Superman's not necessarily an immigrant.
This is not someone who chose.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
He chose to come to a place.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
He chose to migrate to a place and as an adult.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
And you know, get his green cart or whatever like that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And there's a huge debate about this, and it's kind
of stupid because of Superman.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
But he didn't really choose, and people saying, well, not
all immigrants choose.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
No, we're learning that in the weed fields of California
right now, thank you. But he didn't have much of
a say and where you pull from. And so it's
only because of the values that Jonathan and Martha Kent
installed him in the history of the character that he
turns out the way he is. I wrote a magazine
piece in twenty twenty three that kind of goes into this,
I titled the Death of Superman. It's about how Hollywood
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killed the idea of the American hero justice in the
American way, and Hollywood hates America, so they can't promote
this anything.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
A Superman now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Carrying a flag is jingoism, it's trump ism, it's nationalism.
And that's all bad and so, but it is the
way that the character is raised. There is a limited
series Superman titled Red Sun, which is an alternate history
where Superman lands in the Soviet Union and is taken
in by KGB agents. How would that Superman have been raised?
What values would have been installed in him? He'd probably
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be the Amyeric of New York City right now. And
so there are all these interesting theories and themes that work,
but there are things that are essential to who the
character is and if you change them, it doesn't become
Superman anymore. And that's as much as I'm going to
say about how James Gunn kind of spins it on
his head. And he's done this with other films Guardians
and Alex and there always scenes of fatherhood that runs
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through his films. And this is what I mean. No
matter what the topic, James then will take it and
make it about him, which a lot of filmmakers do.
But this isn't like the James Gunn story.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
This is a character that has very specific you know,
anteons and iconofry of decades since the nineteen twenties, in
the nineteen.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Thirties, it's the most exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Later, or else you just kind of get a weird
looking dude in a blue suit.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He is Steven L. Miller doing an apt job of
walking that spoiler line and not crossing over. For those
of you that want to see it this weekend, I
want people.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I want people to be as mad about it as
I was.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I'll just leave it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Don't want to ruin the anger. Okay, Superman the Reboot
in theaters. James Gunn the director, and as he mentioned
data he was involved in Guardians the Galaxy and Suicide
Squad some of these bigger kind of superhero movies as well.
But we have the template, Steve, and I want you
to comment on this. This is from filmmaker Greg Rabbiduo.
He joined me a couple of days ago. I put
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from just three years ago what a summer blockbuster could be,
once again bringing us out of the depths of COVID,
taking us into the movie theater for a movie going
experience that brought everybody together. It was Top Gun, it
was Maverick, it was Tom Cruise and Rabbito talks about
the journey that Tom Cruise took from kind of a
kook to a unifying figure in an American hero once again.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And it's not an approach I would take, to be
honest with you, I take more of the Tom Cruise approach,
at least the recent reincarnation of Tom Cruise, which is
I'm making movies for lots and lots of people around
the world to enjoy. I don't want to offend anybody.
I just want you to have a great movie time
at the movies, enjoy your popcorn in and tell me
that you liked it. I mean that wasn't always Tom
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Cruise either. He pushed this scientology agenda. He pushed the
postpartum depression.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No pills agenda.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
With the Brookshield, he jumped on the couch professinating his love.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
For Katie Holmes.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Guess what nobody's talking about that Tom Cruise. We're talking
about the Tom Cruise stunt and the motorcycle jumping and
the World War One plane stunts and all that cool
staff pudition possible And you're right for a business model, catwork.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
This comes back to one of my favorite sayings to you,
and that is less is more. If you've got a
great product, if you've got a great film, get out
of the way and let it succeed. Why can't they
just do it like they did with Maverick.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I saw a great comment from a great follow
on Twitter where they basically said, all you had to
do was make Superman as top Gun Maverick and it
would make a gazillion dollars. It's still might I mean,
Gun has a loyal fan base, and it is a
superhero movie, and Marvel is kind of tapered off a bit,
and so I do think it's gonna make its money.
But yeah, you have have a brand that is it's
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handed to you on a play that you know, it's
the iconic s it's a big blue boy scout, which
I will say, the casting in this is fine to me,
So the performances are somewhat fine, but there's just so much.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That they don't take seriously about what's happening. And I
point back to the nineteen seventy.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Eighth Superman where the helicopter scene, the way this scene builds,
the way it reveals, the way it uses prompts, the
way he uses model work, and you know, and his
attitude and things like that, and as I rewatched that
for this, and there is simplicity and things like this,
and I really do think.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I mean, the complaint with Superman is.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
How boring he is. Well, Superman is not boring. It's
the writers who are boring Man. It's those people who
can be bored, and there is a lot of that
in James Gunn's movie. He is the least interesting character
in the film because James Gunn makes him that way.
And that's why you have all these ancillary things going
on all of the time, even when like Superman and
Loislos are trying to have a heart to heart with
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each other. So I'm one of those guys where there
is a template. If you're going to do it, do
it this way.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I do.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I do appreciate some of the world building that he did.
It's not just Superman holding heavy things, you know what
I mean, like fighting aliens and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
That is part of the universe. So I do.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I do like that they bring that in. But you're right,
this is here's a template, here's a Superman. Just go
do that, watch your brand and watch your movie a
billion dollars And that's again, that's the Maverick formula. Maverick's
not a you know, a fifth pumping America loving film,
but it leaves kind of the politics at the door.
And because we have so much of that in our
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lives now everywhere we look, whether it's on social media,
or it's in our yard signs, or if it's on
our bumper stickers, that this is really Hollywood. The problem
is people just want to go to a darkened room
to get away from it for a while. And again,
there are kind of some races of political scenes in
this movie, but James Gunn really did put his foot
in his mouth and like I said, it was it
was to please the media that you know, please the moment.
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He didn't want to be seen as being, you know,
p ice or anything like that, and that's why he
did that.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Steven o'billough you can find out more on his substack.
You can hear it in the Versus Media podcast. I
want to get your thoughts on a story breaking in
real time here, Steven, and that is Dan Bongino, the
deputy FBI director, reports saying from Axios that there may
be an irreparable fissure between him and Pam Bondi, the
Attorney General, over the release of the Epstein files, or
lack thereof. Here were some of her comments from earlier
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in the week.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I have no knowledge about that. We can get back
to you on that. And the minute missing from the video.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive,
but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
And what was on that there was a minute that
was off the counter. And what we learned from euro
of Prisons was every year, every night they redo that
videos old from like nineteen ninety nine, So every night
the video is reset and every night should have the
same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to
release that as well, showing that a minute is missing
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every night.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
And that's it on Epstein.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's it on Epstein, Steven, Is that good enough?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I don't even know or necessarily even care anymore. You know,
should be a bigger deal. You know, the world's most
powerful people just setting to a private eye and to
engage in god knows what. But I think that too
many crazies have gotten a hold of this story and
either for their own nefarious purposes, or for their engagement purposes,
or for what it is I guess I looked at
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this and say, I can't imagine who is so invested
on this except online influence people. And I think, you
know me as I'm someone who I question a lot
of those motives. Do they really want.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
The truth of this?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
You know, we had two presidents of Joe Biden and
Obama could.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Have you know, released a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The media turned this into a right wing you know,
fever swamp and a conspiracy theory, which is why they're
just going wall to wall with it over any other
story right now, because it makes the right, a certain
section of the right, unhinged in looney and the media
eats that stuff up. I'm someone where yeah, I would
like I'd like to see stuff on this. I'm someone
who also not someone who I necessarily believe that the
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world's richest people are dumb enough to write down on
a piece of paper. Yes, I visited epsc's island on
this date, and here are some fun photographs. It's just
I kind of try to pull this back to reality,
and in all honesty, I've muted the Epstein files on
my Twitter feed. I'm just over it. This is the
kind of stuff where, again, when you are part of audience.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Capture, right. So, Dan Bongino, who is someone who is.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
A successful radio host and.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
A TV show host and someone who goes into government,
and a lot of these people are as well, and
they're captured by what their audience wants. And I think
that that's where a lot of this conflict comes in.
I can probably say, regardless of anything else, Pam Bondi's
not going to resign because her replacement is going to
have to go through Senate confirmation as well as cash
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to Tel. I don't think the FBI director is going
to resign either, because again, these are two positions that
should they do this. Trump is now strapped at the
headache of going all the way back to Senate confirmations
of his replacements, and I don't think he has the
facete in his mouth to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Follow him at Red stas as Steven L. Miller, Great
stuff as always, Thanks for joining us again here today.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Thanks any time, right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, Steven L. Miller right there, he makes his
home right here in Colorado. Our nominees for our Friday
Fool of the Week are Anna Navarro Ken Martin, the
DNC chair, wants a big tent party with globalized the
Intifada included in it. Anna Navarro says that the Trump
administration wants to make America white again, and President Trump
himself running cover for Pam Bondi on these very Epstein files.
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A time out when we come back. Another big interview
in our series covering the allegations against State Representative Ron Weinberg.
You won't want to miss it after this on Ryan
Schuling Live. Joining us in the continuing coverage of this
story allegations against Representative Ron Weinberg sexual harassment and otherwise.
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Joining us right now. Nancy Ruttfeld is on the Thompson
School District Board of Education and came forward with the
following statement posted on x formerly known as Twitter yesterday, saying, quote,
this statement was not easy to write, and I realized
some will be happy and many will be angry with me.
I strongly believe that what I have said needed to
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be said so that accountability, due process, and justice for
everyone happens. You can follow her on ex at Nancy
underscore TSDVOE and she joins us now. Nancy, thank you
for your time.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Oh thank you Ryan for having me on. This is
an important story, and I think it's important that everyone
remains focused on finding out the truth and due process,
because that's what justice is all about, and especially accountability
and transparency.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I want to begin with where it begins for you, Nancy,
in your relationship one on one personally with Representative Ron Weinberg,
how your paths caroused, what that involved, and where your
relationship went from start to finish. And as I read
it here and what you posted, it did not end.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, no, no, it did not. I first met him,
and it was I think it was about August of
twenty twenty one when I was deciding to run for
the Thompson School Board the first.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Time, and he was at that time.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The chair of the Larimer County GOP. And you know,
him and I we developed a friendship, you know. We
as I said in the letter, we have our own
unique you know, and it's sometimes a crass level of communicating.
It's just how we are. And when we had different things,
we would always, you know, figure out a way to
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resolve it, come to an agreement and move on.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
He can't sometimes be abrasive, and you know for some
people that you know, can put you off. But I
always believed that he really was a freedom fighter, really
believed in fighting for conservative values and principles. And as
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time went on, especially this last year, many of our
interactions just seemed to just become a bit more emotional
from his side, and it just kind of kept building
up that way.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
In May, we had a very unpleasant phone.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Call where he called and was just really lecturing me
very un professional, especially as an elected legislator. I mean
we're both elected officials. I am still a constituent of
his and vice versa, and you should you should talk
to each other and treat each other with some level
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of respect, and that more and more was lacking as
well as Brian. He also didn't seem to have a
problem with no boundaries of making derogatory remarks about women
that we both know, and.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
That it just wasn't working for me anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And so I just finally ended the conversations and him
and his wife are blocked. I just it's not productive
for me to engage with him anymore. And then all
of this came to light. And I've heard some stuff
over the years, but this was just really concerning, and
we just we need to find out what the truth is.
These women deserve to be heard, as does Representative Weinberg,
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because due process is important. But Ryan, if the Republican
Party is going to have credibility. We have to apply
our high standards to everyone, not just those that we
disagree with. They have to be applied to everyone. Otherwise
we have no integrity or credibility.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
She's the direct or District City for the Thompson School Board.
Nancy Runfeld joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live, discussing
her interaction her relationship with Representative Ron Weinberg. I think
what happens in a lot of these situations, Nancy, is
that in a vacuum on an island unto itself, your
relationship with Ron Weinberg is one thing. But then, like
you mentioned, you hear other women coming forward with other
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versions accounts of how they had interactions with Representative Weinberg,
and you start to develop, I think a fuller picture
of the full mosaic of who he is and how
he operates and how he treats women seems to be
the major concern right here. Would you say that his
behavior towards you you mentioned kind of combative, abrasive, disrespectful.
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Did it ever cross a line with Hugh as you
saw it from an appropriateness standpoint? Was there ever any
inappropriate remarks that you would say were made to you
about you. You mentioned some other women that you both knew.
Were there any red flags along those lines as you
saw or heard it?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
No, not with me. Now, it didn't surprise me when
I learned from other women there was, you know, that
emotional intelligence that seemed to be sometimes lacking, especially with
boundaries of you know, how you treat somebody. And it's
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especially just seemed to really ramp up this year. Now
I have no idea why, what's going on in his life,
but it just seems that in light of everything else,
we need to find a resolution. Because like it or not,
when you're elected to office, Ruyn, you are held to
a higher standard than everyone else. And I understand what
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it's like to have constituents say things to you that
make clear that they disagree with you, they don't like you,
and so forth.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
But that doesn't give you license.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
To treat them differently or rudely. It's just something that
comes with it just comes with the job of being
elected official. You have to listen to him and still
remain respectful and professional, and so.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I think that's really important.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I would also like to talk Bryan real quick about
I hear a lot about this workplace relations to many
that women are supposed to go through, but it seems
like it's not working if they're fearful of going through
it because it's not being kept private, or it's just
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it's not working. It's always found in favor of whoever.
Then that to me says something needs to be done.
And some of these situations happened outside of the capital
is just you know, in everyday life. So what's the recourse.
What's the recourse for those women to ensure their story
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is heard and resolution is found that that works for everybody,
because again, we don't we can't.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
We can't assume, you know, who's talent.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I mean, we have to have due process. But what's
the recourse if you don't work at the capitol.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And that's the thing. There are so many variables in
this equation as you articulate it, including your own because
you don't work at the capitol, your relationship was separate
when it comes to Ron Weinberg and through Larimer County
and where you operate as the director of District C
for the Thompson School Board. Nancy Rumfield, our guest. I've
put together accounts Jacquelin Anderson was on this program. As
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you heard earlier this week. I've had both off and
on the air conversations with Representative Brandy Bradley and this
pattern of behavior that appears to be disturbing that You're right,
Representative Weinberg deserves new process on it. But I'm just
curious coming forward. You know, that choice, that decision, Nancy
you mentioned in the post that you have pinned on
your X account. That's not an easy one because with
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it comes consequences, and a lot of women are afraid
to come forward because of those consequences, and they think,
you know, I'm just better off keeping my mouth shut,
keeping my head down, you know, and not getting involved
and throwing myself into the fray and the blender here
and that there is strength in numbers. And yet by
coming forward, you say you've gotten responses, a lot of
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them positive, some of them negative. How would you break
down or characterize those responses. What percentage of them would
you say are positive versus negative? And how does that
make you feel for coming forward in the first place.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, first of all, so far, all of the responses
have been positive. I've been really surprised. I've also been
receiving text messages, phone calls, Facebook messages from other women
disclosing information that I wasn't even a way that quite
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honestly is disturbing. And again, this is what I'm hearing,
this is what they're telling me. Again, this should all
be done in a manner that follows some sort of
due process that everyone can agree on. But it is disturbing,
and these it's awesome.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
I think what's more disturbing is.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That they're afraid to come forward. I mean, I am
I am sixty four years old. So I grew up
in a time where women really experienced a lot of
workplace discrimination, sexual harassment. I served in the military. I
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understand what it's like not to be believed. And so
this isn't the way either to immediately, as seeing Representative
Weinberg do how all of these women liars. That's not
an appropriate response either. We need to figure out how
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to act like the grown ups in the room and
figure out what's true and what's in the best interest
of himself, his wife and children and they are adorable,
and also what's best for the constituents of House District
fifty one to be represented at the capitol. So there's
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a lot at stake here, and it took me a
lot to write this letter because, quite honestly, Ryan, I
kept waiting for party leadership to do it, the state leadership,
or the House leadership, or the county leadership, but no
one came forward to say anything. So you know, here
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I am, as a school board member saying it, and
it should it should come from someone else, and we
should not condone this type of behaviorhavior. We should insist
that we get due process, we find out the truth,
and if it means he has to step down, then
it means he has to step down.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
And because that's what.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Accountability is about. And if we say we're a party
of principles, integrity, rule of law, then we have to
live by it. You have to walk by it. Otherwise
it's just it's just a bunch of words that don't
mean anything. And I want to believe that our Republican
Party is much more than that.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and by letting it, linger leadership does need to
take that next step. I could not agree with you more,
Nancy in this regard, because it doesn't do anybody any good.
Represented Ron Weinberg himself, the accusers who have come forward
you yourself. There is no resolution at this point, and
it just kind of in purgatory, and this needs to
be nipped in the butt and handled, and hopefully that
will happen soon. She is Nancy Rumfeldt, director of District
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C for the Thompson School Board, and had interactions with
Representative Ron Weinberg came increasingly volatile and more unpleasant, to
the point where she no longer communicates with Ron or
his wife Carolyn. Nancy, thank you so much for taking
the time to talk with me here today, and thank
you so much for your courage and coming forward and
telling your story.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Thank you for having me on it. I just would
encourage all women. There's strength and number, there's safety and numbers.
Please come forward, don't let your voice be silenced. The
truth masters.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Nancy rumfeld joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live a Break.
We're back to wrap it all up after this, heading
into the weekend on a summer fun ahead for a
lot of you Zach Seegers alongside Kellicacha as well. Here's
truly Ryan Schuling and we have arrived at the time
of the program where we announce our Friday Fool. The
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week we had the surprise nominee of President Trump. That's true,
obscuring the Epstein files and running cover for Pam Bondi.
There's a lot of news on that front as well.
Dan Bongjin threatening to resign over the way it's been
handled or lack thereof by the DOJ, specifically the ag
in Pam Bondi. Ken Martin, DNC chair, wants a big
tent party. He wants zo Ron. Don't mess with the Zorn.
(32:12):
I'm donnie globalize the end of Fadi. He's all about it.
An Anna Navarro saying that all these deportations by the
Trump administration are about making America white again. Kelly, what
do we got? It would be our big, beautiful president.
Oh wow, Donald Trump? How about this for a plot?
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Twist our Friday Fool of the Week your memo and.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Released yesterday Jeffreys in the less some lingering mysteries of
One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked
for a American for foreign intelligence agency. The former Labor
Secretary who is Miami. He was attorney go Alex Casa.
He allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
(32:56):
So can you resolve whether or not he did? And
also can you see why they're some minute. This from
the gel House seat dominated Yeah, sir, I just sent
you at it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have
all of the things, and are people still.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Talking about this guy, this creep that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Do you want to waste the time?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And do you feel like answered? I don't mind answering.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Some of the greatest success and.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead,
your hardest on the ones you love President Trump. Are
Friday Fool of the Week? Back with you on Monday
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Not an immigrants.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
They're trying to to equate those things together, which I
think is ridiculous because of the current politicization of that situation.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
James gun is not the kind of guy who's going
to put an American flag in his front yard during
Fourth of July, and that's the kind of guy you
need to be to create Superman. I did not like
this movie at all. Every man in this movie is weak,
and he cries, Chris.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
There's one silver lining here which I think you touched.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Doll dresses, short skirts, high heels, cleavage.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Thank you, James Gunn for that.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hollywood's has been trying to remove masculinity for it seems
like the last decade. Once again, it needs to be
white boy summer to bring people back to the box office.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think that's a funny term. You hear the term
white girl summer. You know, it's like, you know, white claus,
no laws. That's what Kelly says all the time. No,
she doesn't. She I'm just putting words in her mouth. Three.
He's giving me that look right now. But talking about
halcionic days of the two thousands, kind of the epic
era of raunchy rivaled comedies, like old School and wedding
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crashers and tropic thunder movies that broke the rules, that
didn't play by any rules, that were very Step Brothers.
That was another one. I mean, I'm listing, like all
of Zach's favorite movies. I think from the two thousands,
Revenge of the Nerds. That's not the two thousands, that's
the nineteen eighties. That wasn't even a zygo.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You're leaving out a bunch of the one that's way
back when Revenge.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Of the Nerds come on. You can't leave those. You
are going back a whole generation. I'm talking about the
young folks out there now, Zach, you're Have you seen
the movies I just mentioned, because I keep forgetting you're
a gen z literally, Zach z there it is and
you were but a wee lad when a lot of
these movies came out. Have you gone back and watched them? Yeah,
I've seen most of those, if not all of them. Okay,
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you're a fan, Yeah, definitely, there's their comedy classic. Thank
you very much, Zach for reinforcing the message that I
am putting out there today. But we've gotten into this
woke era and gotten into the weeds and waded into
the waters, and it's being injected into this new Superman
film for no reason at all. This could have been
a summer blockbuster to beat all others because there wasn't
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a lot of competition around it. Here in mid July,
and yet here comes James Gunn and Steven L. Miller
our next guest. You can listen to his podcast Versus
Media on substack. This is part of his header there.
It says my review of James Gunn's new superhero film
about James Gunn titled James Gunman Steven EL Miller on
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Ryan Schuling. Why Steven welcome.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, that's a good summation of the film.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I can go.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, we've been talking, we've been talking about this.
It drops in theaters today and over the weekend. I
guess drop might be the operative word here as well.
And just why a director in this instance? I mean,
the subject matter speaks for itself. It's iconic, there's a
canon of this, It's been reinvented so many times. It's
not like you're introducing a new superhero into the ethos
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the pantheon of all these characters, and it somehow he
made it about him. Does that surprise you? Or with
James Gunn? Does it not?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Not?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
With James Gunn, There's a lot of problems with this film.
I'm going to push back on you a little bit.
So I did see an advanced screening of this before
it came out today, and I'm funneled as to why
he decided to put his foot in his mouth about
this movie about an immigrant story, because it really isn't.
(03:25):
I think what Jam's Gunn is doing in this filmcase's
he wrote. He created this film for his friends in
the media, and he is somebody who is on Twitter
and online a lot. He's terminally online when it comes
to places like Instagram, and I think he made this
movie to Twitter proof.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
It and to media proof it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So when he says that this is very much an
immigrant story, he is fully narrative that he sees online
interviews that topic doesn't really come into play in this film.
I would argue he gets this character wrong for several
more important reasons. There is this kind of subtle weaving
of progressive scenes throughout. There is definitely an illusion and
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an analogy to the Israeli military mowing down or brown
people with rocks. That is definitely something that's in the
film and says I've been telling people that's a bigger
deal to me than this idea of what is Superman.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
And he does some things in.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
The film that if you are a staunch supporter of
the comic book or the character, he does do some
things that will make you fish shakingly angry the end
of the day. This isn't really a Superman films. If
you're familiar with James Gunn, he did Guardians of Galaxy,
He's done Suicide Squad, He's done these movies where he
is the most important thing about the film. It's his style,
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it's the way he films things. It's his quirky sensibilities.
It's a quirky sense of humor. And Superman isn't wacky
Souperman can be campy, he can be earnest, he can
be stoic, he can be noble, but he doesn't exist
in like this universe of wackiness like the Guardians of
the Galaxy do. And this movie pretty much exactly like
those every kind of James Gunn movie cliches in this film,
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and it really does. He does fancy himself as I'm
actually the star of this. I'm the most important thing
about not only this franchise, in this movie. This is
supposed to be DC's big and pole relaunch. This is
supposed to be, you know, the launch of a brand
new universe. All of the actors that we just saw
are gone. He's recasting Wonder Woman and Batman and I
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sit there and I wonder, how is a character like
Batman going to fit into this wacky new Zaney universe.
And so it's going to be interesting to watch. If
you like his films and you like him, which is
more important, it's not necessarily his films, and you might
like this. There isn't so much a level of wokeness
in this as much as there is. There are definitely
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themes of like I said, a Gaza versus Israel with
you can guess who the bad guy is, and a
few more. But he really did kind of unnecessarily put
his foot in his mouth because I think he's just
trying to please journalists. If for those of you out there,
just I'm going to spoil one thing. Jake Tapper has
a cameo in this movie.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Follow him on exit there. It is ruined the whole thing.
I was so high on it coming in Otherwise, at
Red Ste's on Ax Steven L. Miller, our guest host
of the Versus Media podcast, you can catch it on
his substack. He gets into detail on this as he
just did, but even more so. And your repost here
stood out to me, Stephen. A guy named John tweeted
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at you, and I thought very accurately here saying Superman
in Cannon does not identify as an alien or immigrant.
He is always fully assimilated and considers himself a citizen
of Earth and of the United States. He has barely
any knowledge of Krypton other than what he was told,
but considers Mon Pod Kent his real parents. And you
add to that, and I'm thinking about this as well.
There are so many areas and directions that one can
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go with the Superman story, the origin story on Krypton
and the original film the late seventies where Marlon Brando
portrays Jourel and he has a feud on that planet
whether or not it's going to end, and he saves
his son and sends him to Earth, and then that
whole story became a spinoff television series called Smallville and
Clark Kent's youth growing up in small town America, in
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Kansas with the Kents and becoming a man under those circumstances.
You can explore that. So you were talking a little
bit in your post here about butchering Superman's origin story.
How does James gun go about doing that?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's a pretty I'm not gonna go I'm not going
to go into that as a spoiler. He kind of
flips what Drorell is on its head, and it's a
pretty big deal. And for you know, the movie wants
you to believe one thing and with let Luthor, but
it really does. I can't tell you because it's kind
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of a big deal. But he does butcher that idea
origin of Krypton and who Drell is and what Krypton was,
and again, you know, he sends his only child to
Earth to you know, survive and take on some of
the characteristics of Krypton. And again you're right, he's he's
a character who as I've said, and I've been getting,
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you know, replies thrown at me where I've said, a
Superman is an orphan first, he's an American, second, he's
an alien third, and he's an immigrant force generally in
that order. So this is the big immigrant push about
and this is where I take issue again. It's not
so much in the film that Superman's not necessarily an immigrant.
This is not someone who chose.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
He chose to come to a place.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
He chose to migrate to a place and as an adult.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
And you know, get his green cart or whatever like that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And there's a huge debate about this, and it's kind
of stupid because of Superman.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
But he didn't really choose, and people saying, well, not
all immigrants choose.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
No, we're learning that in the weed fields of California
right now, thank you. But he didn't have much of
a say and where you pull from. And so it's
only because of the values that Jonathan and Martha Kent
installed him in the history of the character that he
turns out the way he is. I wrote a magazine
piece in twenty twenty three that kind of goes into this,
I titled the Death of Superman. It's about how Hollywood
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killed the idea of the American hero justice in the
American way, and Hollywood hates America, so they can't promote
this anything.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
A Superman now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Carrying a flag is jingoism, it's trump ism, it's nationalism.
And that's all bad and so, but it is the
way that the character is raised. There is a limited
series Superman titled Red Sun, which is an alternate history
where Superman lands in the Soviet Union and is taken
in by KGB agents. How would that Superman have been raised?
What values would have been installed in him? He'd probably
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be the Amyeric of New York City right now. And
so there are all these interesting theories and themes that work,
but there are things that are essential to who the
character is and if you change them, it doesn't become
Superman anymore. And that's as much as I'm going to
say about how James Gunn kind of spins it on
his head. And he's done this with other films Guardians
and Alex and there always scenes of fatherhood that runs
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through his films. And this is what I mean. No
matter what the topic, James then will take it and
make it about him, which a lot of filmmakers do.
But this isn't like the James Gunn story.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
This is a character that has very specific you know,
anteons and iconofry of decades since the nineteen twenties, in
the nineteen.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Thirties, it's the most exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Later, or else you just kind of get a weird
looking dude in a blue suit.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He is Steven L. Miller doing an apt job of
walking that spoiler line and not crossing over. For those
of you that want to see it this weekend, I
want people.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I want people to be as mad about it as
I was.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I'll just leave it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Don't want to ruin the anger. Okay, Superman the Reboot
in theaters. James Gunn the director, and as he mentioned
data he was involved in Guardians the Galaxy and Suicide
Squad some of these bigger kind of superhero movies as well.
But we have the template, Steve, and I want you
to comment on this. This is from filmmaker Greg Rabbiduo.
He joined me a couple of days ago. I put
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from just three years ago what a summer blockbuster could be,
once again bringing us out of the depths of COVID,
taking us into the movie theater for a movie going
experience that brought everybody together. It was Top Gun, it
was Maverick, it was Tom Cruise and Rabbito talks about
the journey that Tom Cruise took from kind of a
kook to a unifying figure in an American hero once again.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And it's not an approach I would take, to be
honest with you, I take more of the Tom Cruise approach,
at least the recent reincarnation of Tom Cruise, which is
I'm making movies for lots and lots of people around
the world to enjoy. I don't want to offend anybody.
I just want you to have a great movie time
at the movies, enjoy your popcorn in and tell me
that you liked it. I mean that wasn't always Tom
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Cruise either. He pushed this scientology agenda. He pushed the
postpartum depression.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No pills agenda.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
With the Brookshield, he jumped on the couch professinating his love.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
For Katie Holmes.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Guess what nobody's talking about that Tom Cruise. We're talking
about the Tom Cruise stunt and the motorcycle jumping and
the World War One plane stunts and all that cool
staff pudition possible And you're right for a business model, catwork.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
This comes back to one of my favorite sayings to you,
and that is less is more. If you've got a
great product, if you've got a great film, get out
of the way and let it succeed. Why can't they
just do it like they did with Maverick.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I saw a great comment from a great follow
on Twitter where they basically said, all you had to
do was make Superman as top Gun Maverick and it
would make a gazillion dollars. It's still might I mean,
Gun has a loyal fan base, and it is a
superhero movie, and Marvel is kind of tapered off a bit,
and so I do think it's gonna make its money.
But yeah, you have have a brand that is it's
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handed to you on a play that you know, it's
the iconic s it's a big blue boy scout, which
I will say, the casting in this is fine to me,
So the performances are somewhat fine, but there's just so much.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That they don't take seriously about what's happening. And I
point back to the nineteen seventy.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Eighth Superman where the helicopter scene, the way this scene builds,
the way it reveals, the way it uses prompts, the
way he uses model work, and you know, and his
attitude and things like that, and as I rewatched that
for this, and there is simplicity and things like this,
and I really do think.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I mean, the complaint with Superman is.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
How boring he is. Well, Superman is not boring. It's
the writers who are boring Man. It's those people who
can be bored, and there is a lot of that
in James Gunn's movie. He is the least interesting character
in the film because James Gunn makes him that way.
And that's why you have all these ancillary things going
on all of the time, even when like Superman and
Loislos are trying to have a heart to heart with
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each other. So I'm one of those guys where there
is a template. If you're going to do it, do
it this way.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I do.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I do appreciate some of the world building that he did.
It's not just Superman holding heavy things, you know what
I mean, like fighting aliens and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
That is part of the universe. So I do.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I do like that they bring that in. But you're right,
this is here's a template, here's a Superman. Just go
do that, watch your brand and watch your movie a
billion dollars And that's again, that's the Maverick formula. Maverick's
not a you know, a fifth pumping America loving film,
but it leaves kind of the politics at the door.
And because we have so much of that in our
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lives now everywhere we look, whether it's on social media,
or it's in our yard signs, or if it's on
our bumper stickers, that this is really Hollywood. The problem
is people just want to go to a darkened room
to get away from it for a while. And again,
there are kind of some races of political scenes in
this movie, but James Gunn really did put his foot
in his mouth and like I said, it was it
was to please the media that you know, please the moment.
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He didn't want to be seen as being, you know,
p ice or anything like that, and that's why he
did that.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Steven o'billough you can find out more on his substack.
You can hear it in the Versus Media podcast. I
want to get your thoughts on a story breaking in
real time here, Steven, and that is Dan Bongino, the
deputy FBI director, reports saying from Axios that there may
be an irreparable fissure between him and Pam Bondi, the
Attorney General, over the release of the Epstein files, or
lack thereof. Here were some of her comments from earlier
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in the week.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I have no knowledge about that. We can get back
to you on that. And the minute missing from the video.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive,
but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
And what was on that there was a minute that
was off the counter. And what we learned from euro
of Prisons was every year, every night they redo that
videos old from like nineteen ninety nine, So every night
the video is reset and every night should have the
same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to
release that as well, showing that a minute is missing
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every night.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
And that's it on Epstein.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's it on Epstein, Steven, Is that good enough?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I don't even know or necessarily even care anymore. You know,
should be a bigger deal. You know, the world's most
powerful people just setting to a private eye and to
engage in god knows what. But I think that too
many crazies have gotten a hold of this story and
either for their own nefarious purposes, or for their engagement purposes,
or for what it is I guess I looked at
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this and say, I can't imagine who is so invested
on this except online influence people. And I think, you
know me as I'm someone who I question a lot
of those motives. Do they really want.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
The truth of this?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
You know, we had two presidents of Joe Biden and
Obama could.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Have you know, released a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The media turned this into a right wing you know,
fever swamp and a conspiracy theory, which is why they're
just going wall to wall with it over any other
story right now, because it makes the right, a certain
section of the right, unhinged in looney and the media
eats that stuff up. I'm someone where yeah, I would
like I'd like to see stuff on this. I'm someone
who also not someone who I necessarily believe that the
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world's richest people are dumb enough to write down on
a piece of paper. Yes, I visited epsc's island on
this date, and here are some fun photographs. It's just
I kind of try to pull this back to reality,
and in all honesty, I've muted the Epstein files on
my Twitter feed. I'm just over it. This is the
kind of stuff where, again, when you are part of audience.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Capture, right. So, Dan Bongino, who is someone who is.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
A successful radio host and.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
A TV show host and someone who goes into government,
and a lot of these people are as well, and
they're captured by what their audience wants. And I think
that that's where a lot of this conflict comes in.
I can probably say, regardless of anything else, Pam Bondi's
not going to resign because her replacement is going to
have to go through Senate confirmation as well as cash
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to Tel. I don't think the FBI director is going
to resign either, because again, these are two positions that
should they do this. Trump is now strapped at the
headache of going all the way back to Senate confirmations
of his replacements, and I don't think he has the
facete in his mouth to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Follow him at Red stas as Steven L. Miller, Great
stuff as always, Thanks for joining us again here today.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Thanks any time, right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, Steven L. Miller right there, he makes his
home right here in Colorado. Our nominees for our Friday
Fool of the Week are Anna Navarro Ken Martin, the
DNC chair, wants a big tent party with globalized the
Intifada included in it. Anna Navarro says that the Trump
administration wants to make America white again, and President Trump
himself running cover for Pam Bondi on these very Epstein files.
(18:26):
A time out when we come back. Another big interview
in our series covering the allegations against State Representative Ron Weinberg.
You won't want to miss it after this on Ryan
Schuling Live. Joining us in the continuing coverage of this
story allegations against Representative Ron Weinberg sexual harassment and otherwise.
(18:50):
Joining us right now. Nancy Ruttfeld is on the Thompson
School District Board of Education and came forward with the
following statement posted on x formerly known as Twitter yesterday, saying, quote,
this statement was not easy to write, and I realized
some will be happy and many will be angry with me.
I strongly believe that what I have said needed to
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be said so that accountability, due process, and justice for
everyone happens. You can follow her on ex at Nancy
underscore TSDVOE and she joins us now. Nancy, thank you
for your time.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Oh thank you Ryan for having me on. This is
an important story, and I think it's important that everyone
remains focused on finding out the truth and due process,
because that's what justice is all about, and especially accountability
and transparency.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I want to begin with where it begins for you, Nancy,
in your relationship one on one personally with Representative Ron Weinberg,
how your paths caroused, what that involved, and where your
relationship went from start to finish. And as I read
it here and what you posted, it did not end.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, no, no, it did not. I first met him,
and it was I think it was about August of
twenty twenty one when I was deciding to run for
the Thompson School Board the first.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Time, and he was at that time.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The chair of the Larimer County GOP. And you know,
him and I we developed a friendship, you know. We
as I said in the letter, we have our own
unique you know, and it's sometimes a crass level of communicating.
It's just how we are. And when we had different things,
we would always, you know, figure out a way to
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resolve it, come to an agreement and move on.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
He can't sometimes be abrasive, and you know for some
people that you know, can put you off. But I
always believed that he really was a freedom fighter, really
believed in fighting for conservative values and principles. And as
(21:08):
time went on, especially this last year, many of our
interactions just seemed to just become a bit more emotional
from his side, and it just kind of kept building
up that way.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
In May, we had a very unpleasant phone.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Call where he called and was just really lecturing me
very un professional, especially as an elected legislator. I mean
we're both elected officials. I am still a constituent of
his and vice versa, and you should you should talk
to each other and treat each other with some level
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of respect, and that more and more was lacking as
well as Brian. He also didn't seem to have a
problem with no boundaries of making derogatory remarks about women
that we both know, and.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
That it just wasn't working for me anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And so I just finally ended the conversations and him
and his wife are blocked. I just it's not productive
for me to engage with him anymore. And then all
of this came to light. And I've heard some stuff
over the years, but this was just really concerning, and
we just we need to find out what the truth is.
These women deserve to be heard, as does Representative Weinberg,
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because due process is important. But Ryan, if the Republican
Party is going to have credibility. We have to apply
our high standards to everyone, not just those that we
disagree with. They have to be applied to everyone. Otherwise
we have no integrity or credibility.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
She's the direct or District City for the Thompson School Board.
Nancy Runfeld joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live, discussing
her interaction her relationship with Representative Ron Weinberg. I think
what happens in a lot of these situations, Nancy, is
that in a vacuum on an island unto itself, your
relationship with Ron Weinberg is one thing. But then, like
you mentioned, you hear other women coming forward with other
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versions accounts of how they had interactions with Representative Weinberg,
and you start to develop, I think a fuller picture
of the full mosaic of who he is and how
he operates and how he treats women seems to be
the major concern right here. Would you say that his
behavior towards you you mentioned kind of combative, abrasive, disrespectful.
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Did it ever cross a line with Hugh as you
saw it from an appropriateness standpoint? Was there ever any
inappropriate remarks that you would say were made to you
about you. You mentioned some other women that you both knew.
Were there any red flags along those lines as you
saw or heard it?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
No, not with me. Now, it didn't surprise me when
I learned from other women there was, you know, that
emotional intelligence that seemed to be sometimes lacking, especially with
boundaries of you know, how you treat somebody. And it's
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especially just seemed to really ramp up this year. Now
I have no idea why, what's going on in his life,
but it just seems that in light of everything else,
we need to find a resolution. Because like it or not,
when you're elected to office, Ruyn, you are held to
a higher standard than everyone else. And I understand what
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it's like to have constituents say things to you that
make clear that they disagree with you, they don't like you,
and so forth.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
But that doesn't give you license.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
To treat them differently or rudely. It's just something that
comes with it just comes with the job of being
elected official. You have to listen to him and still
remain respectful and professional, and so.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
I think that's really important.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I would also like to talk Bryan real quick about
I hear a lot about this workplace relations to many
that women are supposed to go through, but it seems
like it's not working if they're fearful of going through
it because it's not being kept private, or it's just
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it's not working. It's always found in favor of whoever.
Then that to me says something needs to be done.
And some of these situations happened outside of the capital
is just you know, in everyday life. So what's the recourse.
What's the recourse for those women to ensure their story
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is heard and resolution is found that that works for everybody,
because again, we don't we can't.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
We can't assume, you know, who's talent.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I mean, we have to have due process. But what's
the recourse if you don't work at the capitol.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And that's the thing. There are so many variables in
this equation as you articulate it, including your own because
you don't work at the capitol, your relationship was separate
when it comes to Ron Weinberg and through Larimer County
and where you operate as the director of District C
for the Thompson School Board. Nancy Rumfield, our guest. I've
put together accounts Jacquelin Anderson was on this program. As
(26:40):
you heard earlier this week. I've had both off and
on the air conversations with Representative Brandy Bradley and this
pattern of behavior that appears to be disturbing that You're right,
Representative Weinberg deserves new process on it. But I'm just
curious coming forward. You know, that choice, that decision, Nancy
you mentioned in the post that you have pinned on
your X account. That's not an easy one because with
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it comes consequences, and a lot of women are afraid
to come forward because of those consequences, and they think,
you know, I'm just better off keeping my mouth shut,
keeping my head down, you know, and not getting involved
and throwing myself into the fray and the blender here
and that there is strength in numbers. And yet by
coming forward, you say you've gotten responses, a lot of
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them positive, some of them negative. How would you break
down or characterize those responses. What percentage of them would
you say are positive versus negative? And how does that
make you feel for coming forward in the first place.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, first of all, so far, all of the responses
have been positive. I've been really surprised. I've also been
receiving text messages, phone calls, Facebook messages from other women
disclosing information that I wasn't even a way that quite
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honestly is disturbing. And again, this is what I'm hearing,
this is what they're telling me. Again, this should all
be done in a manner that follows some sort of
due process that everyone can agree on. But it is disturbing,
and these it's awesome.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
I think what's more disturbing is.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That they're afraid to come forward. I mean, I am
I am sixty four years old. So I grew up
in a time where women really experienced a lot of
workplace discrimination, sexual harassment. I served in the military. I
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understand what it's like not to be believed. And so
this isn't the way either to immediately, as seeing Representative
Weinberg do how all of these women liars. That's not
an appropriate response either. We need to figure out how
(29:06):
to act like the grown ups in the room and
figure out what's true and what's in the best interest
of himself, his wife and children and they are adorable,
and also what's best for the constituents of House District
fifty one to be represented at the capitol. So there's
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a lot at stake here, and it took me a
lot to write this letter because, quite honestly, Ryan, I
kept waiting for party leadership to do it, the state leadership,
or the House leadership, or the county leadership, but no
one came forward to say anything. So you know, here
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I am, as a school board member saying it, and
it should it should come from someone else, and we
should not condone this type of behaviorhavior. We should insist
that we get due process, we find out the truth,
and if it means he has to step down, then
it means he has to step down.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
And because that's what.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Accountability is about. And if we say we're a party
of principles, integrity, rule of law, then we have to
live by it. You have to walk by it. Otherwise
it's just it's just a bunch of words that don't
mean anything. And I want to believe that our Republican
Party is much more than that.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and by letting it, linger leadership does need to
take that next step. I could not agree with you more,
Nancy in this regard, because it doesn't do anybody any good.
Represented Ron Weinberg himself, the accusers who have come forward
you yourself. There is no resolution at this point, and
it just kind of in purgatory, and this needs to
be nipped in the butt and handled, and hopefully that
will happen soon. She is Nancy Rumfeldt, director of District
(30:55):
C for the Thompson School Board, and had interactions with
Representative Ron Weinberg came increasingly volatile and more unpleasant, to
the point where she no longer communicates with Ron or
his wife Carolyn. Nancy, thank you so much for taking
the time to talk with me here today, and thank
you so much for your courage and coming forward and
telling your story.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Thank you for having me on it. I just would
encourage all women. There's strength and number, there's safety and numbers.
Please come forward, don't let your voice be silenced. The
truth masters.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Nancy rumfeld joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live a Break.
We're back to wrap it all up after this, heading
into the weekend on a summer fun ahead for a
lot of you Zach Seegers alongside Kellicacha as well. Here's
truly Ryan Schuling and we have arrived at the time
of the program where we announce our Friday Fool. The
(31:49):
week we had the surprise nominee of President Trump. That's true,
obscuring the Epstein files and running cover for Pam Bondi.
There's a lot of news on that front as well.
Dan Bongjin threatening to resign over the way it's been
handled or lack thereof by the DOJ, specifically the ag
in Pam Bondi. Ken Martin, DNC chair, wants a big
tent party. He wants zo Ron. Don't mess with the Zorn.
(32:12):
I'm donnie globalize the end of Fadi. He's all about it.
An Anna Navarro saying that all these deportations by the
Trump administration are about making America white again. Kelly, what
do we got? It would be our big, beautiful president.
Oh wow, Donald Trump? How about this for a plot?
(32:33):
Twist our Friday Fool of the Week your memo and.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Released yesterday Jeffreys in the less some lingering mysteries of
One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked
for a American for foreign intelligence agency. The former Labor
Secretary who is Miami. He was attorney go Alex Casa.
He allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
(32:56):
So can you resolve whether or not he did? And
also can you see why they're some minute. This from
the gel House seat dominated Yeah, sir, I just sent
you at it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have
all of the things, and are people still.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Talking about this guy, this creep that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Do you want to waste the time?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And do you feel like answered? I don't mind answering.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Some of the greatest success and.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead,
your hardest on the ones you love President Trump. Are
Friday Fool of the Week? Back with you on Monday
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