Stephen L Miller from the Versus Media Podcast discusses ongoing Hamas protests; Will Michigan turn red?

Stephen L Miller from the Versus Media Podcast discusses ongoing Hamas protests on univeristy campuses. 

Will Michigan turn red because of current events going on right now?

Episode Transcript

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Ryan schuling with you on six pointthirty Kal trying to make sense of the
chaos and helping us do that,my next guest. You can find his
Versus Media podcast on his sub stack. He's also a contributing editor for The
Spectator, and he's on x formerlyknown as Twitter at red Ste's R E.
D. Ste Ze Stephen L.Miller, not the bald Trump advisor,

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he joins us. Now, Steven, thanks for your time. Thanks
Ryan, I'm just sitting here recordingand enjoying a nice banana. Phenomenal.
Now, I would say, aswe're watching everything play out on these college
campuses across the country, Steven andmuch with shock and awe, but not
with total disbelief that they are reapingwhat they have sown. But beyond that

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now, especially at Columbia, Ithink you deserve what you tolerate. Why
do they continue to tolerate this?Uh, Because it's the only behavior that
they've been taught and that they know. We saw the Columbia staff members link
on this past weekend when the campswere ordered to be removed. There was
a two pm deadline on Sunday thatcame and went without any repercussions, and

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that actually led to a building andColumbia being taken over by protesters occupied.
They held a janitorial staff member hostage, basically, and now they're having pizza
delivered them by a crate with arope, and they're tolerating this because it's
built in. I've kind of statedto just let this all happen out in
the open and simply just record it, because this has been bringing on college

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campuses now for years and this isreally just the BDS movement having their moment.
And I really do think sunlight,as with most cases of rampant anti
semitism, really is the best solutionhere. I think let them take their
buildings, let them burn their buildings, let them do all of this,
and simply film it for the restof the country to see. Because right

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now we have a president who waselected on restoring normalcy and restoring the soul
of the nation, and he hasyet to eat give an official statement on
any of this. He says he'sgot a program to handle it. I'm
not sure what that program is,unless you do. Stephen no I searched
for this. He's so just foryour audience. If you've noticed Biden's not
spoken about any of the thing that'shappened. He was asked an off the

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cup question after a climate rally witha Casio Cortes, and he simply stated,
he condemned anti Semitism and he createda program to deal with that,
and he did not have a singlemember of the media follow up with what
program he was even referring to.And then he said, he also condemns
what's happening with people who don't understandwhat's happening with Palestinians. He very fine

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people on both sides did. Andthat is all that we have heard from
him. We have no fact checks, We have nothing about any program he
has created. He is off toDelaware today for a digital campaign event,
and that is it. This isa president who has been shoved into a
closet by his handlers and his comstaff. Steven L. Miller joined us,

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you had made mention of BDS.Now we've heard about boycott, divestment
sanctions against Israel from the squad,the likes of lunatics like Representative ilhan Omar
Rashida Talib and these apparently are partof the so called and I laugh at
this word the way Ronald Reagan didabout Berkeley negotiations with these would be terrorists,

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aspiring terrorists on college campuses. Theyhave terms and conditions, Steven,
don't you know and that one ofthem would be that their university can no
longer do business with Israel. Whatis the broader point of this BDS movement
among the indoctrinated masses on these collegecampuses, as you stated, I mean
their cause. When they're shouting,you know, globalized, the into Fada,

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this is not a ceasefire when theysay river to the sea. This
is the erature of Israel. Andthe only way for that to happen is,
of course the mass murder of dues, the likes that we saw similar
to October seventh, And this isreally what they're getting at. And I've
said that a very question for thesepeople, if any journalists, if we
had any, would ask them isdo you agree with the actions of Hamas

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on October seventh? Yes? Orno? And that would be a very
simple question for these students to answer. And we saw shortly after what happened
on October seventh, there was aquick effort of erasure of the events of
the sexual assaults of the murders,of the tortures, of the kidnappings,
strictly because they had to create amoral equivalency of what Hamas is doing in

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Gaza and what Israel is doing torespond to the Hamas attacks in Israel on
their innocent people. And so thisis all kind of built into what we're
seeing. And like I said,the more these people speak, I think,
the more that there's condemnation of them. And I've said they go out
repeatedly and say we will not besilenced. But then when you try to
film them, they demand you don'tfilm them. And then when the police

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step in, suddenly all the phonescome out and it's all very theatrical.
It's all very performative, and likeI said, I think that you should
just put a microphone in these people'sfaces and let them speak their minds.
Steven, You've done some digging,and what I've been wondering in a lot
of people in our audience is howmuch of this is truly organic and happening
from within. These are just studentsare deciding this is their moment, and

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how much of this is orchestrated fromwithout? Meaning there are nefarious actors here
who are looking to cause chaos onthese campuses and they see an opportunity.
About what percentage do you think isone in one the other? I think
it's majorityly an AstroTurf movement that isvery well funded and very well promoted,
and it's also has the backing ofcorporate media and journalists. I don't believe

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that much of this is organic.It certainly it might be student groups on
campus, but they are backed byvery powerful dark money groups and the progressive
left. And no, it's notanti semitic or anything to state that it's
you know, a source action networkor a pierodomyar network or whatever. But
these students are very well funded.And another aspect of this is they would

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have consequences because one, they havethe backing of the universities, and now
you and I and your audience arepaying for their student loans. So there's
very little incentive for them to behaveI guess would be the way to put
it. And so I don't believethat most of this is organic. This
is the BDS movement is a verywell funded, corporate progressive style movement that

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is again has slush funds to thethousands of millions of dollars, and no,
I don't believe much of what we'reseeing just happened organically. Does that
mean that this is an actual studentsYes, but we as we've seen a
ut often several arrests that were made, these people weren't students. They're just
simply there to create havoc. Andso while I do believe that some of

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it is, you know, regurgitatedby student groups as we saw Columbia,
I believe that at least the massfunding of this is not organic at all.
We saw similar with Occupying twenty twelve, we saw similar with BLM and
in twenty sixteen, and of coursewith George Floyd BLAM in twenty twenty.
And this is just our twenty twentyfour election year Summer of love hissy fit

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happening. Wow. Steven L.Miller joining us Red Steez on the AX
formerly known as Twitter and his VersusMedia podcast. We'll touch on that in
just a bit. You can findthat on his substack. Now for those
that are on the lunatic fringe extremeleft, I mean, it's like an
all star game coming back together.You know, you got the radical Communist
Hall of Fame. I saw yourtweet with Barack Obama his mentor one of

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them, Bill Ayres of the WeatherUnderground at University of Chicago. That's exciting.
And then Angela Davis right here atthe Aurora campus and that drew rave
reviews from Elizabeth Epps and Tim Hernandez, the two resident Communists, and the
Colorado General Assembly. I'm just goingto ask you, Steven, when is
Asada Shakur gonna feel confident enough tojust come on over from Cuba and join
the fray. Yeah, we'll seeabout that if there's a guest speakership happening

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or even tenure. But yet you'reright that this is kind of the I'm
a band getting back together, andthat's really a lot of what this is
is the Obama generation has gone tocollege, and that's what we're seeing a
lot of. There was an apstory one of the students who has expelled
or we started to be expelled,said that they learned protest in high school,

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that it was through their teachers.One of their scholarship dissertations was about
walking out of high school during RonDeSantis' laws or whatever in Florida, and
so this has all been ingrained inthem. And then you look at who
runs public schools, and I guesswe're just going to go down the line
to find which Republican at a localstate level is responsible for all of this.

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And this is another big thing withJoe Biden, who is kind of
the president of a you know,a supporter of the teachers' unions, and
so all of this is kind ofconnected. And like I said, it's
the Obama generation gone to college,their cosplaying revolutionaries, but their entire movement
melts down if you offer them abanana or a salad or fart spray,
and so it is. It iscomical, and there is an element of

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money python to all of this,but it is also dangerous when Jewish students
cannot move about campus freely, whenthey're blocked from libraries and they're blocked from
classes. They view this all throughthe idea of the oppressed and the oppressor.
And what's happening right now Joe Biden'sDemocratic base a large key demographic graphic
of his base, which is,you know, rich, white, elite

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college students want you to believe thatthey are now the oppressed. Red Steeze
again on ex and Steven L.Miller, our guest, you mentioned earlier.
I want to kind of follow upon this that Joe Biden campaigned and
he won on that kind of returnto normalcy, escape from the chaos,
go back to the way things were, And we're watching this all unfold on

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his watch. He doesn't even havea word to say about it. As
you mentioned, Donald Trump had somethingto say about it, And here was
him making the comparison to the criticismthe heat he took on Charlottesville protests that
are going on, harms by himbecause he doesn't have to speak, he
can't put two sentences together. He'sgoing to get out and make a statement

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because the colleges are being overrun inthis country, the anti Semitism, all
of the problems going on, they'rebeing overrun. I'll never say anything like
it. He said he ran becauseof Charlottesville. Well, if the people
that knows Charlottesville, when you extendthe statement, it's a big pox.
What was what they say was saidand they understand that, and Charlottesville is

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peanuts compared to what you're looking atnow. This whole country is up in
arms, breaking into college, isknocking the hell out of Columbia University.
I mean, they joked over.I know the building very well. They
took over a building. That isa big deal. Now, what ended
up happening at Charlottesville and the deathand the injuries that took place very bad.

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I don't think it takes you know, a rocket scientist to figure out
that there were some bad outcomes there. Trump's words on that incident were taken
out of context. Of course.He said there were very good people and
very bad people on both sides,and that the neo Nazis, the white
supremacist they should be condemned totally.That's all part of the quote that was
in there. And Stephen, thisis what Joe Biden cited as the very

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reason, the catalyst for him gettinginto the presidential race of twenty twenty was
the bulging veins on the next theanti Semites at Charlottesville. How do you
square that with his lack of aresponse here to the anti semitism we're seeing.
Well, you can't. And thisis Joe Biden's problem is he's effectively
being held hostage by an extremist wingof his party that is threatening to stay

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home on election day in places likeMichigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin, and
that has a lot to do withthis because these are close, you know,
swing states, and Trump is leadingright now in all of them.
That is several poles that are showingthis that Trump is up in some of
these states even by plus five.And so Biden's in a tough spot because,

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like you said, he ran onreturn to normalcy post pandemic, you
know, lower the temperature of thecountry. And I guess I just asked,
does it feel like the temperature islower rate now? I mean has
it felt normal for the last twoto three years. Putting aside the economic
data with inflation and etc. Hewas elected to kind of steer the ship

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back to normal territory. He wasnot elected to promote insane wings of anti
semites on college campuses or the GreenNew Deal, and so he really isn't
a tough bind ring. The problemis is he can't just step aside because
he has the most unpopular vice presidentsince Dan Quail. I want to follow
up on that too, Stephen,because I've made note of this before and

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maybe in a conversation with you,the parallels between twenty twenty four and nineteen
sixty eight. You have an unpopularincumbent president like Lyndon Baines Johnson with Joe
Biden, both kind of old,part of the establishment of Washington, not
very well liked and not doing wellin the polls. Now Johnson would step

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aside because he saw the writing onthe wall. There was a Kennedy in
that race too, and unfortunately hemet his demise in Los Angeles, California.
But his son is running in thisrace and could very well be a
factor. And then you have theTrump Nixon comparison, which I think is
apt, especially with what we're watchingunfold right now. Richard Nixon made a
political comeback for the Ages after hisdefeated nineteen sixty very narrowly to John F.

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Kennedy. In nineteen sixty eight,he runs on law and order.
He wins in a landslide. TheDemocrats are in chaos. And oh,
by the way, they had theirconvention in Chicago that year. That's where
their convention is this year. Doyou see a lot of this mapping out
the same way as we saw backin nineteen sixty eight, Stephen, I
don't know, that was before mytime, just letting you know, by

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the way, there certainly are activismparallels, but this this is kind of
just the pattern of the progressive left. Does they do this every election year,
whether it was Vietnam, And likeI said, in my lifetime,
it just so happens that these lastfour to five protest movements happened in election
years. Occupy Wall Street, whichwas kind of the first you know,

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incantation of all of this, wasin twenty twelve. It was meant to
shine a light on Romney and BaineCapital and all of this stuff. And
then of course we had it intwenty sixteen with BLM, and then we
had it in twenty twenty. Imean, it's like clockwork. And I
ask my audience, you know,are you just tired of this? Because
when you say is it organic oris it well funded, it's meant to

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sow chaos, blocking roadways and doingthis. And you know, I think,
regardless if Joe Biden is not goingto be the guy that restores the
soul of the nation or returns tonormal seas, and I think people are
going to go back to the screaminglunatic where at least we had two dollars
gas and we could afford our groceries. And I really do think that that

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is a genuine possibility, regardless ifthat Trump is sitting in a jail cellar
not. I saw your April twentyfourth edition of your Versus Media podcast on
Substects, Steve, and I wantto give you a chance to tell our
listeners about it and tell them whatthey can expect in your next episode.
I'm talking about the great banana assaultat Columbia University, and I don't know

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if you'll let you fill your audienceand on that one, and I'm just
going more into this and how journalistsare trying to get the message back on
track after we saw a Columbia studentleader say he wants dead Zion this,
which is just really dead Jews iswhat he means. And the message kind
of always keeps getting off tracks,similar to what it did with Occupier BLM,

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and you have a media that istrying mightily to steer it back into
a same direction again because we havean election and if too many of these
kinds of activists get their real messageout, which is what we're seeing,
the media is going to have areal problem on their hand. And so
you have a media basically trying to, you know, shade away from all

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of the extreme activists blocking je Astudents saying they want dead dyingis et cetera.
To just try and say these arepeople protests and oh, by the
way, the cops are now,and now it's a police brutality issue.
And I can't think of anything morethat would make people care less about police
brutality than these spoiled and titled babiesgetting hauled off in handcuffs. Final point
here, I just saw this fromthe hill Emerson polls. I want your

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thoughts on it, Steven. Inthe Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania,
Wisconsin Senate races, they're all close, but the Democrat is ahead,
and each and every one in thesame poll Donald Trump is ahead, and
each and every one of those states. Is there a sentiment do you think
maybe out there, especially in theseswing states, that go, you know
what, I'll take the Orange manback, but I'm going to make sure

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he has a Democrat senator as acheck and balance against him. Possibly,
I don't. I gave up tryingto figure out what voters think or care
about several election cycles, because youknow, I think we even saw this,
and you know, we saw thisin Colorado a few times. Where
you know, they vote for acertain kind of set of laws, or
they vote for a certain representative thatgoes completely against the itinerary of say somebody

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like Joe Biden Kamala Harris, andso I just I have no idea what's
going on in voters heads right now, but possibly, and you know,
you run into the possibility that Trumpcould end up with a Democrat Senate and
a Democrat House, and you couldbe seen very well seeing impeachment in removal.
So there is you know, Ithink some app speculation on who he

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chooses is his VP, just asmuch as again, should Joe Biden be
re elected, I think there's amore than decent chance you would see a
president Kamala Harris in those four years, whether he steps aside or whether there's
a health problem or a health catastrophe. So I gave up trying to figure
out what moters are thinking a longtime ago, and we still have six
months to go here, All right, check out his versus Media podcast on

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his sub stack. You can alsofind him on exit Right. Always great
insights, Steven L. Miller,appreciate your time, look forward to the
next conversation. Thanks anytime, right, All right, Stephen L. Miller
joining us there. And it shouldbe noted too that even if all those
Senate seats went blue, the factthat West Virginia is gonna flip red and
Larry Hogan in Maryland could very wellwin and flip that seat, the Republicans

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could still win the Senate. RyanShuling back with more after this on six
point thirty K how social justice warriorsFor a lot of them, it seems
like it's more about the warrioring thanabout whatever the cause is. Are you
really speaking truth to power or doyou just think you look cool in a

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cafe which is really just the newsche guevera T shirt Another historical figure you
never researched and so think as ahero, but it was actually a sadistic
racist monster fighting for communism, theworst form of government ever. But these
are small matters, Bill Maher speakingtruth Ani's program about the surface level pseudo

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intellects and remember last week they wonare full of the week. The two
Columbia students, again our best andbrightest at an Ivy League school. They
go to support their NYU fellow intoFada folks and didn't exactly know why,
not at all didn't do the research, didn't have the background, didn't have

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the education on the issues. Andmar makes a fantastic point right here,
And I think this is front andcenter when it comes to gen Z.
I'll due respect to those of youwho listen to this program and don't conform
with the stereotype, but it's astereotype for a reason. Small matters when
activism merges with narcissism. Less aboutthe cause and more about me. Look

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at me, watch me, Andif you like the way I'm fighting injustice,
remember to like and subscribe. Maybefrom now on, before anyone commits
an act of civil disobedience, theyshould ask themselves a few questions, like
it's the most important thing in mylife, something I hadn't heard of six
months ago. Do I even knowwhat I'm talking about? Am I really

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here for the cause? Or isthe cause here to bring you me?
Why do I care so much aboutthis particular cause? Because it's a way
to promote oneself on a platform,to get likes and clicks and views,
to score virtue signaling points, tojust make yourself present yourself as a better

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person. Mark concludes with this,North Korea stars its people, China puts
them in concentration camps. Me andMar brutalizes the Rohenya. Boko Haram kidnaps
whole villages of women, nothing Ukraine. Maybe if these Google employees have the
slightest idea what kind of fundamentalist,oppressive they're supporting Hamas, the Houthis has

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Blah, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,they might take it a little easier on
the world's greatest monster, genocide Joe. Genocide, by the way, is
when you want to wipe out anentire people, that's the stated goal of
Hamas. That's what from the Rivetto the Sea means. Hamas would do
that to Israel, but can't.Israel could do that to them, but

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doesn't. Exactly right, Hamas wouldannihilate Israel if they could, but they
can't because we stand in the wayas Israel's ally, the United States of
America, and thank God for thatalliance. Israel has the capability with nuclear
weapons. They could a Hiroshima andNagasaki Gaza if they so chose. They

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didn't. They used remarkable historic levelsof restraint in a retaliation against an attack
that killed twelve hundred of their owncivilians. We didn't hold back in our
response to Pearl Harbor. We didn'thold back in our response to nine to
eleven. Now, certain factions ofthe world may have judged us on that,

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and retrospect in history, Hiroshima andNagasaki have been criticized. We needed
to win the war without a landinvasion of Japan that would have cost at
least another million United States military lives, not worth it. Japan refused to
surrender, so Harry Truman bombed theminto submission. That's how we won that

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war. Israel has every right inlatitude or should to win this war.
And it's not that they want towantonly kill civilians. That's for Hamas to
do, including with their own civilians. And yet we have these neophyts on
college campuses who can't even pay offtheir own student loans and don't know how

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and don't know what it a loanis or how it works, or the
fact that when you borrow money atthe pay it back. But they're the
experts on matters of life and deathin Gaza. Give me a break.
But see for the Bill Maher elementthat we have. And he's a very
intelligent guy and I've admired him formany years except for his Trump derangement syndrome.

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We have to put up with whoI believe is the most dangerous member
of the view. No, notWhippy Goldberg, not joy Behar even it's
sunny Houston, because she presents herselfas a lawyer, knowledgeable in the law
and the Constitution, and yet fullyreliant on statistics on casualties from hamas the

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students are telling me, this isa humanitarian crisis. What we also don't
talk enough about is the fact thatthirty five thousand, mainly women and children
that are Palestinians, have been murdered. No, what we also don't talk
about, I think enough, isthat, for some reason, the discussion
of against Israel's policies which the UNhas called war crimes, which the International

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Cristriminal Court is investigating as war crimes. What we don't say is these are
people, these are civilians, andwe must protect them. Even President Biden
at this point has said, youhave gone too far, a dangerously stupid
person, I was a war crimecommitted to check this on the calendar October

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seventh, would that have been maybeconsidered to be some kind of crime against
humanity? And no mention of itfrom her, but don't worry, it
gets worse. So it has neverbeen in my life in my career the
criticizing policies of government is equated withanti semitism, and that I think is
a far right comes from far right, It comes from the authoritarian leanings where

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they don't want students on these campusesto voice their opinions because they want to
change the narrative going forward. AndI think we have to be very since
I I mean, that's just runningcover for these protesters that are creating chaos
on our campuses that have no knowledgefundamentally of the issues, or if they
do, this is not done withthe best of intentions whatsoever. And she's

(25:03):
not alone. But how you knowthat this is going badly for the Democrats,
for the left, for their electoralprospects, because, believe me,
wait till the next wave of pollscome out with all of this factored in.
Nicole Wallace demonstrates that the wors itgets for Democrats, the crazier things
they're going to say. Get aload of this lunacy. I've seen that

(25:26):
toast a bunch of times, butit landed very differently this year because depending
on what happens in November, sevenmonths from right now, just time next
year, I might not be sittinghere. I might not be a White
House correspondence dinner or free press whileour democracy and exactly fall apart immediately without
it, the real threat looms largera candidate with outward disdain not just for

(25:52):
a free press, but for allof our freedoms and for the rule of
law itself. Watch what Joe Bidenis doing. He is the commander in
chief. There's chaos on our campuses. He's doing nothing. Where is that
supposed law and order? And he'sturned to norms the forgiveness of college loans
for students that had already been overruledby the Supreme Court, Yet Biden defied

(26:14):
that scot is ruling. As forNicole Wallace not having a show in seven
months, that'll be when MSNBC finallyrealizes she doesn't get any ratings. I
won't have anything to do with DonaldTrump. Trump is a pugilist. He
likes engaging with adversarial media. UnlikeJoe Biden. There were three four correspondence
dinners during Trump's tenure as president.He didn't ban them or cancel them.

(26:37):
He just didn't attend what changes nowhe's already been president. He didn't end
or cancel any of those things.James Carville, he decides to take it
out on the young voters themselves.This is great Trump and Roberts and Alito
and Gassi and Thomas and Leonard Leoand the Heritage Foundation. If they get

(27:03):
a hole, there will be nogovernment left, There'll be no rights left.
You'll live onder theocracy, you'll endup Christian atalism. But that's all
right. You know, in twentysix year old, you don't feel like
the election's import and may they're notaddressing the issues that I care about,
So fear the opponent. Then that'sthe reason to vote for Biden. That's
how you know they are losing.Nicole Wallace James Carvill is not just the

(27:27):
two of them either. They haveto invoke the fear card against Trump.
They've got nothing to stand on,they've got nothing to promote, to say,
this is why life is better underJoe Biden, because it is not
and they know it, and itwould be better under Trump. And their
greatest fear is that the huddled massesout there, people like my sister,

(27:47):
who usually votes Democrat but cannot standwhat she's seeing at Columbia right now.
If Angie Scamahorne, my sister votesfor Donald Trump, she might do it.
She might not tell anybody but aboutit, but maybe me and make
me promise not to tell you.But if she does, if voters like
my sister finally are fed up andsaid no more of this, and I

(28:07):
don't care. I don't like theOrange man, but life was better.
She's close, she's coming along,folks, and where she is in the
political spectrum, if voters like herfollow suit, it's a wipeout. It's
a wipeout. So what do Ido. I'm much more patient with my
sister than say, somebody on thefar left is going to be with a

(28:30):
voter in the middle, like youjust heard James Carville, with these voters
that might not turn out. Ilet my sister kind of come to me,
and I want to scare her away. I don't want to, you
know, try to browbeat her intovoting for Trump. Heck, I'd consider
to win. If she just votedfor RFK instead of Biden. That might
happen, and that might be enough. But that's the point of the matter

(28:51):
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But you're driving fifty five and athirty five and behind you you see a
blue light special the cop. He'sgot the lights on, he's got the
sirens going, he's got the lightsflashing at you, the headlights to pull
over. You're miffed. You coulddo whatever you want. This is your
neighborhood, right, so you justkeep going. You're gonna do your thing.
Meanwhile, you're fiddling around on yourphone. Cop follows you in a

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slow speed chase all the way toyour driveway in your garage, and then
you get out of your car andyou start berating the police officer. What
do you think would happen to you, Kelly in that circumstance if you went
full Karen in the scenario I justdescribed, Yeah, I don't think that

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would be real well for me.You would go real well for me.
You would be face first in thepavement with handcuffs on behind you. Oh
yeah, hauled into the car.No explanation, none required. You did
what you did. But rules forthee and not for me apply, apparently
to upstate New York District Attorney SandraDourly. Now she had refused to stop

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when a cop tried to pull herover last Monday after clocking her going twenty
over fifty five and a thirty five. Instead of pulling over, Sandra or
Karen drove home and called get this. She called Webster Police Chief Dennis Colemyer
to explain about the ahole officer pursuingher. The bodycam footage show so she

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gets on the phone, trying toget out of this before the stop even
happens, before the tickets even issued. She's trying to pull rank there.
Now, despite her tantrum, it'sall According to The New York Post,
she was still slapped with a trafficticket, and in spite of her protestations.
Did you hear what she said inthe footage of this, I didn't
have time to dig it up,Oh I did? She as well to

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be prosecuting myself, right, SoI'm going to get out of this.
She actually also told the police officerthat she knew more about the law than
he did. Oh, just snootily, I mean the hubris, oh,
over the top, condescending, justawful. She raided him again, called
him an a hole, and thenshe gave it a videotape quasi apology.

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It's never an apology if you offeran explanation, and she did. I
had just come from work, Dorleysaid in her videotaped apology released Monday morning.
I was dealing with three homicides thatoccurred on the weekend. I watched
a video where an innocent cab driverwas executed, and I was still reeling
from a frightening medical condition that myhusband received that afternoon. But we all

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have bad days and stress, andit was wrong for me to take it
out on an officer who was justdoing his job. While I previously apologized
to him, I will say itagain. I'm sorry. Police already have
a tough job in that day.I made this officer's job harder. Now
is she sorry for her conduct oris she sorry she got caught and that

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it was on the body cam?Kelly exactly? And if she really were
sorry, why make up excuses?Own it? But she had to go
through all the list of the excusesthat she had. My husband got a
medical scare. Yeah, I hadto, you know, I was dealing
with three homicides or one. Imean, if you're this emotional, maybe

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being a DA for her, Probablynot for you. I always love this
excuse too. I fell short ofthe values I've held for my entire thirty
three year career. I didn't treatthis officer with respect that he deserved.
All police officers deserve respect, youknow. I judge a person on their
actions when the cameras are not on, or when she thought the cameras weren't

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on, and what we saw.That's her, and she, I'm sad
to report is a converted Democrat andnow a Republican. I invite her to
go ahead and go back to theDemocrat party. We don't need Karen's like
her on our side of the aisle. So that's all I have to say
about that. My goodness. Shedid end up paying the ticket, though,

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so at least she copped to that, and didn't, you know,
choose not to prosecute herself as shethreatened to do with the cops. She
probably has some nice points to goon her license to I think she's done.
She should probably resign too. Justresign. That's a great solution.
Thank you to all of you fortuning in and stay tuned. The Dan
Kaplis Show is next. I'll talkto you again tomorrow. Tune in it

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too, Right here in six pointthirty k Ryan Schuling, good night,