October 15, 2025 • 31 mins
Stephen L. Miller, host of the Versus Media podcast, joins Ryan to reflect on the historic Trump peace agreement struck between Israel and Hamas, along with the Left's response and reaction to it. Also, Christiane Amanpour and Cornel West make fools of themselves on CNN equivocating for Hamas as Scott Jennings churns out the facts that are so inconvenient for the pro-Palestine/anti-Israel narrative.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For sure, people who start to talk to the hostages
who've only just been released will fine that it will
take a long long time for them to recover physically,
but also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two years
for them, because not only are they there, but you know,
they're probably been treated better than the average Gazan because
they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had.
(00:22):
Now Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way,
by giving them all up, So that is a victory
for the Israeli side.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Christian amanpur CNN a few hours later.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Now earlier live on air, I spoke about what a
day of real joy this is for Israeli families whose
loved ones are finally being returned from two years of
horrific Hamas captivity, and for civilians in Gaza who finally
had reprieved from two years of brutal and deadly war.
I noted that for the hostages who are finally home,
it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally
(00:56):
and physically, but I regret also saying that they might
have been treated did better than many Gazans because Hamas
used these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that
was insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many
formal hostages and their families, like everyone, I've been horrified
at what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.
(01:18):
They've told me is you've just heard their stories of
barely being able to breathe in the tunnels, not being
allowed to cry, being starved and made to dig their
own graves, and of course today some of the hostages
are coming back in body bags.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
My question for Christiana I'm on poor back here on
Ryan Schuling Live, is if she knew all of that
what she just stated, and she had all those conversations
with those family members of the hostages and the hostages themselves,
she had all that information, then at that moment, then
what would have prompted her to say what she said
(01:53):
a few hours earlier, implying that the Israeli hostages at
the hands of Hamas were a tree better than the gosslins,
the Palestinians who lived there themselves. I suppose that question
to our next guest, Stephen L. Miller. He the host
of the Versus Media podcast and you can follow him
on ex at red Ste's ste ze, Stephen, what is
(02:17):
your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, the only recorded case of the actual starvation we
have from God where the hostages, particularly the one of
idiot card David taking his own grave. And if you
think I'm imployed here is kind of being despicable, wait
until these hostages give interviews to places like the BBC
and CNN and they are asked to sympathize with the
plight of the Palestinian people about how they were also treated.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Twenty hostages were released alive, Stephen, and all of them
were men, no women. What do you make of that percentage?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I did most of the women were released it in
a or engagement that happened a while of goost. So,
but we do know that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Some of the bodies released, of some of the female
dead hostages, we knew they were released in conditions that
are kind of unspeakable, and that was one of the
other reasons. And they're silver turning bodies from God. So
this is the next phase. Four hostage bodies were returned.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So I believe at least twenty four.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Left to go.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And Hamas doesn't want the world to see the condition.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Of these bodies.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And I'm of the opinion that I think family should
release evidence and photographs to show exactly the kind of brutality.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
That these people faced.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hamas executed one of the most effective up gand of
playbooks that we've seen in modern history.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And we were told this as a genocide.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's not a genocide. We're told that there was an
unspeakable famine. And now there's videos coming out of restaurants
and cafes and these.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Guys are all healthy and things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And so the next phase of all of this is
you're going to start seeing the references to the Dasa
Holocaust because one of the one of the biggest modern
identity of the Newish people, I guess how you want
to put it, is the fact that the Holocaust did
happen to them. And of course, twelve hundred Jewish people
(04:20):
were killed the largest amounts in the Holocaust on October seventh,
and so it's kind of the last dehumanization by Hamas,
and it's you know, it's parrots and the media to
basically now rob them of the Holocaust. And this is
a term that's already being floated around and we've seen
it from media. Hassan from the Tail News, who was
accepted in play company on places like CNN and MSNBC,
(04:41):
and so again, this.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is still their cause.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They're still going to rally around this because it's been
their omni cause for the last two years, and so they're.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Not going to just give this up easily.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
His podcast yesterday, and one of the reasons I reached
out to Steve and among many as I have them
on often, it was this headline quote, where does ceasefire
urban outfitters into Fada? Go from here? Parenthetical? Take a
wild guess I'm taken back in time. I referenced this
often and Stephen, because you also make your home here
in Colorado like I do. There were three young I'm
(05:14):
going to assume college educated white women, probably mid twenties,
posing right outside of empower Field at Mile High. They
had their cafas ready to go. They did a Nassi
with the three of them. They were ready to protest.
And it's just like this fabricated you call it astro turf.
It's kind of the cool hip thing to do for
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young people to be part of this into fada. And
yet what we just talked about the subjugation of women.
I mean, we can go over at time and again
by Hamas, by these fundamentalist Muslim countries that deny women
all kinds of rights. What is that cognitive dissonance between
the types of people I just described and what they're
(05:56):
actually representing when they show up at these protests.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean you kind of hear that they believe
that this is a cool thing. They see ology students
doing this. The three the three girls you mentioned, one
of them is actually a member I believe that the
Young DMC Party of Colorado, and that post, of course
was the leted was over at a Raria campus.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The dissonance is that, as I mentioned, this.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is their omni cause they've lifted the playbook from Godza
and Palestinians and they're basically applying it to every single issue.
So when they say there's a trans genocide, for example, right,
there's no trans genocide, this is not something that's happening,
But they use the language because they see how effective
that propaganda playbook work on the world. Now, worked on
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Western media, that worked on Western institutions, and so they
simply just lift that and apply it to everything. And
the reason they do that is it's a justification of victimization.
They can say we're being genocide that therefore any action
that we eight is defensive. It's the sarcastic terrorism playbook
(07:04):
that they're using. And you've seen this happen with you know, brands,
bast shooters of churches. Well, it's your laws against me.
It's the fact that you won't let me transition. It's
causing this and it's very dangerous. And because when they
can justify anything, then they sometimes becomes violent, as we
saw at Charlie Kirk last month.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Excellent example Stephen L. Miller, host of the Versus Media podcast.
You can check that out on his substack and that
link is present on his x page formerly on his
Twitter at red stez as te Ze I wanted to
play for you. This interchange is well between Scott Jennings
of CNN and he absolutely floors the good professor doctor
(07:44):
Cornell West, highly esteemed from Harvard University and give this
a listen.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Well, brother Scott, the are you concerned about the Palestinians?
Can you take that off of the Palestinians and all
of this.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Well, I'm concerned about what's happening to them right now.
They're being shot the street by hamas well.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
They're under occupation. It had just had twenty thousand babies
killed in twenty three months. I think, do you believe
that a hostage on the Byalians has the same value
as a Palestinian incarcerator.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't have to ask that question.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I don't regard some of the people that were in
prison President Israel to be hostages. These were terrorists that
we had to let go in order to get these
twenty people back. The twenty living hostages did nothing wrong. Many,
as Abby pointed out in her monologue, of the people
the Palestinians wanted released are absolute terrorists.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who must many we have no trial and have had
no doubt people did nothing.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
The people taken on October the seventh were purely innocent.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
A couple of things there's Stephen. One would be for
Cornell West. If he had made the point that Gaza
was occupied by Hamas and that the Palestinians lived under
the thumb of that oppression, they haven't had an election
since two thousand and seven, that'd be one thing, but
he was referring to Israel. And then my other point
would be based on something you just mentioned that I
guess needs to be repeated, and that is what do
(09:03):
process that the twelve hundred Israelis who were massacred on
October seventh get from Hamas.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We kind of proved my point is that the Palestinian
Samasa the victims in this why, well, we're being occupied.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
They're not, but they use this language.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Also interestingly enough, also to the point here on the
west side of the story about twenty thousand dead babies, that
story was refracted by the BBC, And the day after
that that story published was the Sunday of the firebomb
attack in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
This disinformation is.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Getting people killed, and now he's repeating it over on CNN.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And he saw this several instances when there.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Was a story about a Israel opening fire on a posts.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That turned out it was Hamas.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
That was doing this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The weekend that that story ran was when two embassy
staffers in Washington, DC were shot and killed. And this
is the whole point where I wanted to run this disinformation.
We saw this with the New York Times saying Israel
bomb to hospital that turned out to not be true,
with an Aaron Moss rocket that landed in the parking
lotch and none of this stuff was ever retracted and
(10:12):
so here you have Cornell West, who is a fairly
educated guy. I get that he's a provocateateur of sorts,
but he's repeating a story because he read.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It and he didn't check the facts on it, and.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
So again he's positioning.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As are the victims.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And what's also interesting is, yes, you have the moss
being different facts, student members of factions happening in Palestinian
And where is the ceasefire and genocide crowd? Apparently it's
okay of the Palestinians genocide themselves here. And again this
is how you know this was all like propaganda campaign.
It was a very successful one. I would argue nothing
(10:48):
now matters other than the fact that these hostages would
come home. I don't have a lot of faith in
the peace land that's laid out, but I don't think
that that matters right now. And so again, this is
a very successful propagana campaign that suits the playbook is
being deployed by the next mayor of New York City
likely and again this is their omnipause. So it's a
(11:10):
question of where do they go now while they have
to keep this alive.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Steven L.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Miller, our guest Shifting Gears a little bit to the notion,
the concept of identity politics, the dei culture that the
Trump administration is looking to wipe out and for good
reason or restore us to the meritocracy that a capitalist
society and economy should be. We're seeing some wild comments
from Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson today a case that's being
(11:34):
heard before the Supreme Court of the United States in
which Louisiana is challenging the notion that there should be
raised based congressional districts. But again, Stephen, this goes back
to identity politics and that the left views people in
very caricature form that you are judged, you are determined
by the color of your skin, by your sexual orientation,
and you need to stay in your silo and vote
(11:55):
a certain way and shut up and never step on
a line. And that's where the former president United United States,
Barack Obama goes right here on a podcast with a
severely Trump deranged Mark Miron.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
We're being tested right now.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you are a.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Hispanic man and you're frustrated about inflation, and so you decided, ah,
you know what, all that rhetoric about Trump doesn't matter.
I'm just mad about inflation and now you know your
sons are being stopped in LA because they look Latin.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Know, Well, that's that's that's a test.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Barack Obama was a pivotal moment for me personally, Stephen,
in my voting history. It's the last Democrat I ever
voted for in two thousand and eight. I regret it.
But how much worse is Barack Obama for this country
than we even thought he was back then?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean you can kind of draw a straight
line from you know, Obama's presidency to the murder of
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I's not blaming him, but he created this kind.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Of activist culture.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I talked about this, this notion of ice elationism.
Before he came along, we never had a president who
basically told you to get in the face of your
relatives at Thanksgiving and yell at them about healthcare like this.
This was a seminal moment. And it's fractured. It's fractured families,
it's fractured peer groups, it's fractured institutions. Media picked every conservative.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Voice off of their airways. You mentioned Scott Jennings there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think he's the only conservative regularly appears on CNN,
and he really did create this culture of hate that
neighbor heat by family, and again that kind of culture
becomes dangerous. So he's still trying to kind of pump
up this race based idea in this country. And you
can look at race relations did roughly rate upon the
(13:42):
ground to the time of mister Hope and change his presidency.
But what's interesting is this really is something I think
people are over.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The Jenocrat already can't move on from.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Identity because it's while they base everything around. It's why
we still tolerate Kamala Harris on her gigly book tour.
But even just to NBC was announced laid off about
one hundred and fifty staffers and reporters and they're shuttering their.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
DEI news division.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
They're Black Reporting News division, because I guess we can't
just report on people as well as their LGBTQ division.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's NBC News. This isn't like you know, Breitbart and Fox.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Here, and so really this is kind of reading the room.
And I've never seen a president, a former president, who
is such a victim of his own ego than Barack Obama.
He mentioned in during this podcast with Mark barn that
you know, the country rejected all of the values that
him and Michelle tried to install, and he's being very
factual there, Yes we did.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And so again I think that one.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Of the things is he really does have I think
ego envy of Donald Trump. And what I mean by
that is, regardless of what you think about Donald Trump,
Trump is going to go down as an American icon.
And I'm not somebody who's a Trump voter. It's just
a simple fact.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
This is a guy who has been a seminal point in.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Our lives since the aides, whether with the wrestling guy,
the boxing guy, the Apprentice. He was a number one
paid television star, and then he goes on to be
president twice. And I think Obama really suffers from the
fact that Trump really.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Did beaton at his own media game.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Stephen L. Miller our guest. There's one other thing I'd
like you to opine on here, Stephen, and that is
the appearance by Cheryl Hines on the View. Earlier today,
I had Michael Rappaport in studio. He has done a
one point eighty on President Trump over the whole issue
of Israel, and I had a great conversation with him
about that, and I don't know that he's been red pilled.
(15:34):
But for Cheryl Hines, that experience may have happened today
if it hadn't happened already based on the questioning of
her husband his credentials, whether or not he's qualified. And
this exchange with Sunny Houston coming at you in two parts.
Here is the first one on the view.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
But the problem, respectfully, is that your husband is the
least qualified Department of Health and Human Services head that
we've had in history.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I didn't.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
I think that's a very dangerous strangers be less qualified
than an economist felt his career studying toxins, studying people's health.
Speaker 9 (16:11):
It has also spread a lot of misinformation, a lot
of chaos, a lot of conclusion. And I think it's
it's just a very dangerous thing. I say it with
the utmost.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Some of it's good and some of.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So Sonny Houston goes full Ricky Bobby from Talladega Knights.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
There I met.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I said, with all due respect, that doesn't mean you
could say whatever you want. Sonny Houston says yes, and
then Cheryl Hines finishes with this spiking of the football.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Listen. We all have different views.
Speaker 11 (16:39):
Yes, And when you say, you know, misinformation disinformation. We
could go back to COVID when.
Speaker 12 (16:46):
Connect circumcision may I finished, when people fauci people were saying,
when you get the vaccine, you cannot transmit COVID, it
will stop, and that was disinformation missing.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Inimation's still learning about. It was a novel virus.
Speaker 12 (17:04):
You've neverready found it, right because now the doctors.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Will acknowledge that doctor.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
They were censoring Bobby because Bobby said, where's the science
to show us this? And there wasn't any, but people
attacked them and said you you're wrong. So it's like,
let's let's take a step back. I know that's your opinion,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Sonny Haustin saying, well, doctor fun't she has a medical degree,
then he should have known better. Point A point b
Elissa Farah maybe the stupidest insert there, the comment that
she had, well you're still learning, well, then, Stephen, why
were we told with such certainty that's six feet of
separation work, that masks work, that the vaccines stopped infection
and prevented spread. None of that was true, So why
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were we told that? Cheryl Hines, I think when's that debate.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, I mean part of this is we still don't
have COVID accountability. And I don't mean this in the
sense of putting Anthony Fauci in jail.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
It was just kind of.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Biden got in there and were moving on, right, We're
just we're going to.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Try to implement.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The Ocean Mandate, which is struck down, and that was
kind of it. Robert and Denny Junior is the same
book that he's been for decades when he was appearing
on The Daily Show and Meet the Press, that's when
his opinions on everything from climate science to you know,
radical kind of stances in the medical community.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
But I've said that what happens when you.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Lose stress in institutions, that's when you get somebody like
RFK as your Health and Human Services director.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
You don't have a leg to stand.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
On when you come to saying, well, you know he
doesn't have a medical degree, and you know he has
come some of these outlandish views. And you're right, Cheryl
Hines can simply counter with the fact that we work
present in so much disinformation over COVID over the last
four years, was over everything, whether it was body's cognitive
condition is COVID.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
It was all of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And again, the depth of expertise was a suicide here.
And so while I don't really like seeing somebody like
Robert Kennedy Juniors secretary, I understand how he got there.
And it's because the CDC was not honest with people.
Even if it's even.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
If you believe that what Fauti was engaged in or
Francis Collins was engaged in it was a noble lie,
it was still a lie.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And this is simply the reckoning for that. And this
is what happens again when institutions lose abuse the trust
that they have. This is how you end up with
Robert F. Kennedy as your poss human services director and
that it's as simple as that. And you're right, Cheryl
Hines is very calm here. And again this idea that
media is going to try to lecture her about her husband,
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that leaves a bad.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Taste in everyone's mouth.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And one thing to remind your audience, the view falls
under the purview of ABC's news division. It doesn't fall
under the entertainment division. It doesn't fall under sitcoms or whatever.
It is strictly overseen by the production and the producers
of ABC News.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh look, it's the consequences of our actions.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Is the explanation exactly right.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't like it. I don't like I don't like it,
but that's exactly how.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
We got here.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Check out his latest the Versus Media podcast. Find that
on his substack and the home base for him on AX.
He's a must follow there at Red Steve Steven L.
Miller always glad to have you on. Thanks for your
time today, Sure anytime, all right, this time out, We're
back with more after this. I'm Ryan Schuling Live said,
(20:28):
I might as well throw a tomahawk or too. That
reminds me I still owe Dan kaplis a tomahawk Ribbi Steak.
He won't take it from me. I'm telling you, I
have tried multiple times. I think he just doesn't want
to be seen in public with me, and I can't
necessarily blame him on that one. Would you rather be
seen in public with the former Amy Spoor or with
a guy like me? I get it, I get it.
(20:50):
It's a severe downgrade and why would he do that?
I wouldn't do that, but the offer is still on
the table. I lost a bet with Dan, and I
think it was revolving around whther or not Joe Biden
would drop out of the race, and he was right
and I was wrong, and I'm mad enough to admit it.
And you can text me five seven seven three nine
if you have any strategies that you'd like me to
(21:11):
enlist to somehow convince cajole Dan into collecting on that
Tomahawk Ribbi bet that I lost and he won. I
did the whole happy Gilmore exchange with Chubbs. When he
goes in, He's like, I was wrong, you were right,
I'm stupid, you're smart, I'm not very attractive, you're very
(21:34):
good looking. Okay, as long as you can admit that
looks like we've got a Democrat in the audience and
I welcome them, that's fine. Ryan. I agree with your
point that not all black or white people think alike,
but please note the same goes for the left, because
you and Dan often imply that they do also and
lump them into one big group. We'll expand on that
(21:55):
in a moment, but the same texture followed up with Ryan.
If you have special psychic powers or know for a
fact what every single person in a group believes, then
you can speak out about them as a whole. Well,
I don't have to, and you don't have take my
word for it. Just look at their votes. Other than
John Fetterman, who we revere on this program, I would
(22:16):
love to do an interview with John Fetterman. I think
he's a good guy. And I will call that out Texter.
When I identify an individuals that politically don't necessarily agree
with me, but I respect them, I get where they're
coming from, and I would have a beer with them.
John Fetterman is one of those. RFK Junior was a
Democrat for many years and, as Steven L. Miller pointed out,
(22:36):
kind of a kook. I get it. But I think
he's the genuine article. I think RFK Junior is sincere.
I think he's an authentic guy. And I got to
tell you, those three things mean a lot to me.
That you're not a poser, that you're not a fake,
that you're not a phony, that you're not saying one
thing in public but you really believe something else in private.
So I liked RFK Junior, and I'd enjoying the Sean
(22:56):
Hannity attack train when it looked like in the polling
that rf K Junior was going to be a threat
or a problem for Donald Trump and not for Joe
Biden Kamala Harris. But when that was identified, Charlie Kirk
helped brok her a deal between MAGA and MAHA, and
I knew that the mega powers were going to unite.
I could see that coming because I try to keep
an eye on the big picture and having RFK Junior
(23:19):
in the fold, having Elon Musk on board, having a
Joe Rogan even with his podcast influence reach. I'm telling
you that's why Donald Trump won the election without those
three guys right there that I just named, and those
are just the three biggest ones. There were others, but
those were the three biggest. You take any one of
them out, and certainly if you take all three of
them out, RFK jor Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, I don't
(23:42):
know that Donald Trump wins the election. He certainly doesn't
win the popular vote. I believe Trump won the popular
vote because of the alliance that he had with so
many disaffected Democrats like RFK Junior, but that never in
a million years would consider voting for Trump. But once
RFK Junior was on They're like, you know what, I
don't like the guy, necessarily meaning Trump, but it's better
(24:05):
than the alternative. And that's how you got to vote. People.
You're never gonna get the perfect candidate. This is what
libertarians always hold out for. You're not gonna get it. It's
not gonna happen. Libertarian candidate has never won anything ever,
except maybe a libertarian Republican like Thomas Massey or Ran
Paul and I like those guys a lot, but running
as a libertarian, they don't win. They just sit around
and lose and complain about everything. Yeah, I'm gonna do
(24:26):
that now. Do I have problems with the Republican Party, Yes,
but they are much more aligned with my views and
values than this Democratic party that has left me way behind.
I have nothing really I can really think of that
comes to mind in common with him, and to the
further point that that texture makes if there was a
(24:47):
difference between the dude Senator Jeff Bridges, who I like personally.
He is my state senator Democrat. I like him. He's
an example of a guy. He's friends with Ross Kaminski.
They have a whiskey and cotch and bourbon together. I
think and I would gladly do that with Senator Bridges,
good guy, he gets along really well Senator Barbar Kirkmeyer.
But here's where the rubber meets the road. Here's the test.
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Does he vote any differently than say, Representative Lorraina Garcia
in the Colorado General Assembly or any other lunatic Democrat
that has brought so much pain to bear for the
people of Colorado. Show me the votes where Senator Bridges
has departed from his far left element of the Democratic
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Party in the General Assembly, and I will gladly concede
that point. But you can't do it because it hasn't happened.
Jarrett Polish is ostensibly run as some kind of moderate libertarian.
Maybe he has a lane to run for president. He doesn't.
He assigned every single bit of lunatic, left wing wacko
legislation that's come to his desk, including one that he criticizes,
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which is this competency crap that some Republicans signed off.
I'm still mad about that one. I am living at
that one. Sheriff Steve Reams and I talk about that
all the time. It was a sellout of biblical proportions
that any Republican would have voted for that crap and
didn't see it coming down the train tracks, that it
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would be used and abused by those that were not
really mentally ill, but they would show up to a
court hearing or I'm insane, I don't know what I'm doing,
I'm not competent. I've got I want shrink shopping. And
I found one that told me, I'm nuts, I'm not
competent to say, okay, charges are wave got by, And
now we've got Republicans back peddling. Thankfully, I guess a
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little late to the Welcome to the Party Pal Bruce
Willis style, John McLain and die Hard. But there are
some Republicans who had the audacity, who had the principle,
like Brandy Bradley, like Scott Bottoms, like Gabe Evans that
were never on board with that crap to begin with,
didn't give it one ounce of oxygen. And further to
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that point, Texter, every single Democrat voted for that crap.
That's just one example. Then there's the gun grab bill.
That's another one. Are you nuts? That's gonna be overturned
as unconstitutional and it'll take time and the Democrats will
impede on our Second Amendment rights in the meantime, But
no Democrat left the reservation for that one. So if
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you're telling me I can't lump them in all to
one group, why do they vote as one block on
every single blanken bill that comes before them. Show me
the moderate Democrat in the Colorado General Assembly that strays
from the rest of the pack and votes against that block.
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They don't do it. So that's why I lump them in.
That's an ideological view, that's not an immutable characteristic. Not
all gay people vote the same way. I know that
because I know many gay Republicans. Not all black people
vote the same way. I know that because I know
Black Republicans, and I wouldn't want any group to be
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labeled for their immutable characteristics or even their financial background
anything else, and say you're automatically this. You're not automatically anything.
You have your own mind, you have your own values,
you have your own principles, you will vote on those.
And if you come to a conclusion that you're a Democrat,
well then that's one thing. But the left, Barack Obama
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and now we see Kntunji Brown Jackson, they are assuming
that you're idiots, and that all black people think the
same way, are all gay people think the same way
and should vote the same way, And if you don't
do that, well, you're a trader to your race, or
you're a trader to the LGBTQ community. Faltimore Archiletta hears
that all the time, and I'm sure other members of
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the log cabin Republicans do as well. But we go
back to the Cheryl Hines example, or even Michael Rappaport,
and when they come over to our side, or they
attend a mega event, a Trump rally, any gathering like that,
they are welcomed with open arms. We don't just push
them aside. If they're willing to change their mind and
consider a new way of thinking, new point of view,
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then they should feel welcome. But the Left, unless you
adhere to their orthodoxy, if you step out of line.
You just saw it on the View today. Cheryl Hines
was once in the in crowd with all of Hollywood,
with Larry David, with everybody in Los Angeles, I'm sure,
and now she's persona non grata, and now she's probably
rethinking things. And it goes back to this quote that
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she gave to Megan McCain of all people, and she
was surprised and delightfully surprised.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
How is a magdal landred you.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
They've been so kind good, I've been I'm really grateful
that people have been kind to me. The Republicans have
really been missed me.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Good good. I don't want anyone to be mean to
you or your family.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That is the difference. We do not view people as
a monolith, unless Texter your point. If you all vote
the same way, then yeah, that speaks for your values.
You vote your values. And if you're a representative elected
to a seat, and a Jeff Bridges knows that he's
in a purple district with a lot of people like
me that he's representing, but he's voting way against anything
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that's even in bounds for a moderate. But of course
he's going to be lumped in with the far left
because that's the way he's voting. One last break, we're
back to wrap it all up and Ryan Schuling live
after this President Trump, and I'm trying to figure out
where does President Trump end and where does Sean Ferrish
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as President Trump begin, because there's a lot of overlap there.
This from the text line five seven, seven, three, nine, Ryan,
my last Democrat vote was for Bill Ritter, and he
was the one that came up with the road and
bridge because voters didn't know as much as him and
the Democrats. That would have been the lesson learned and
the one that I learned after I stupidly voted for
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Obama in eight because I was disaffected with George W.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Bush.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Little did I know. I should have known. I was
not wise at that time. This one says spot on
my Rep. Dev Tammy story is absolutely a lockstep voter,
Steven Littleton, that's right. You know, until learn less they
separate themselves with their votes. They can say all they
want that they're a moderate, they're not. John Fetterman walks
the walk, talks the talk. He's the real deal. I
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can respect that. Nobody, not one person in the Colorado
General Assembly deviates from the mob. And that's a problem.
For sure, people who start to talk to the hostages
who've only just been released will fine that it will
take a long long time for them to recover physically,
but also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two years
for them, because not only are they there, but you know,
they're probably been treated better than the average Gazan because
they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had.
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Now Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way,
by giving them all up, So that is a victory
for the Israeli side.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Christian amanpur CNN a few hours later.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Now earlier live on air, I spoke about what a
day of real joy this is for Israeli families whose
loved ones are finally being returned from two years of
horrific Hamas captivity, and for civilians in Gaza who finally
had reprieved from two years of brutal and deadly war.
I noted that for the hostages who are finally home,
it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally
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and physically, but I regret also saying that they might
have been treated did better than many Gazans because Hamas
used these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that
was insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many
formal hostages and their families, like everyone, I've been horrified
at what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.
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They've told me is you've just heard their stories of
barely being able to breathe in the tunnels, not being
allowed to cry, being starved and made to dig their
own graves, and of course today some of the hostages
are coming back in body bags.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
My question for Christiana I'm on poor back here on
Ryan Schuling Live, is if she knew all of that
what she just stated, and she had all those conversations
with those family members of the hostages and the hostages themselves,
she had all that information, then at that moment, then
what would have prompted her to say what she said
(01:53):
a few hours earlier, implying that the Israeli hostages at
the hands of Hamas were a tree better than the gosslins,
the Palestinians who lived there themselves. I suppose that question
to our next guest, Stephen L. Miller. He the host
of the Versus Media podcast and you can follow him
on ex at red Ste's ste ze, Stephen, what is
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your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, the only recorded case of the actual starvation we
have from God where the hostages, particularly the one of
idiot card David taking his own grave. And if you
think I'm imployed here is kind of being despicable, wait
until these hostages give interviews to places like the BBC
and CNN and they are asked to sympathize with the
plight of the Palestinian people about how they were also treated.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Twenty hostages were released alive, Stephen, and all of them
were men, no women. What do you make of that percentage?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I did most of the women were released it in
a or engagement that happened a while of goost. So,
but we do know that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Some of the bodies released, of some of the female
dead hostages, we knew they were released in conditions that
are kind of unspeakable, and that was one of the
other reasons. And they're silver turning bodies from God. So
this is the next phase. Four hostage bodies were returned.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So I believe at least twenty four.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Left to go.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And Hamas doesn't want the world to see the condition.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Of these bodies.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And I'm of the opinion that I think family should
release evidence and photographs to show exactly the kind of brutality.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
That these people faced.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hamas executed one of the most effective up gand of
playbooks that we've seen in modern history.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And we were told this as a genocide.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's not a genocide. We're told that there was an
unspeakable famine. And now there's videos coming out of restaurants
and cafes and these.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Guys are all healthy and things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And so the next phase of all of this is
you're going to start seeing the references to the Dasa
Holocaust because one of the one of the biggest modern
identity of the Newish people, I guess how you want
to put it, is the fact that the Holocaust did
happen to them. And of course, twelve hundred Jewish people
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were killed the largest amounts in the Holocaust on October seventh,
and so it's kind of the last dehumanization by Hamas,
and it's you know, it's parrots and the media to
basically now rob them of the Holocaust. And this is
a term that's already being floated around and we've seen
it from media. Hassan from the Tail News, who was
accepted in play company on places like CNN and MSNBC,
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and so again, this.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is still their cause.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They're still going to rally around this because it's been
their omni cause for the last two years, and so they're.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Not going to just give this up easily.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
His podcast yesterday, and one of the reasons I reached
out to Steve and among many as I have them
on often, it was this headline quote, where does ceasefire
urban outfitters into Fada? Go from here? Parenthetical? Take a
wild guess I'm taken back in time. I referenced this
often and Stephen, because you also make your home here
in Colorado like I do. There were three young I'm
(05:14):
going to assume college educated white women, probably mid twenties,
posing right outside of empower Field at Mile High. They
had their cafas ready to go. They did a Nassi
with the three of them. They were ready to protest.
And it's just like this fabricated you call it astro turf.
It's kind of the cool hip thing to do for
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young people to be part of this into fada. And
yet what we just talked about the subjugation of women.
I mean, we can go over at time and again
by Hamas, by these fundamentalist Muslim countries that deny women
all kinds of rights. What is that cognitive dissonance between
the types of people I just described and what they're
(05:56):
actually representing when they show up at these protests.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean you kind of hear that they believe
that this is a cool thing. They see ology students
doing this. The three the three girls you mentioned, one
of them is actually a member I believe that the
Young DMC Party of Colorado, and that post, of course
was the leted was over at a Raria campus.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The dissonance is that, as I mentioned, this.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is their omni cause they've lifted the playbook from Godza
and Palestinians and they're basically applying it to every single issue.
So when they say there's a trans genocide, for example, right,
there's no trans genocide, this is not something that's happening,
But they use the language because they see how effective
that propaganda playbook work on the world. Now, worked on
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Western media, that worked on Western institutions, and so they
simply just lift that and apply it to everything. And
the reason they do that is it's a justification of victimization.
They can say we're being genocide that therefore any action
that we eight is defensive. It's the sarcastic terrorism playbook
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that they're using. And you've seen this happen with you know, brands,
bast shooters of churches. Well, it's your laws against me.
It's the fact that you won't let me transition. It's
causing this and it's very dangerous. And because when they
can justify anything, then they sometimes becomes violent, as we
saw at Charlie Kirk last month.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Excellent example Stephen L. Miller, host of the Versus Media podcast.
You can check that out on his substack and that
link is present on his x page formerly on his
Twitter at red stez as te Ze I wanted to
play for you. This interchange is well between Scott Jennings
of CNN and he absolutely floors the good professor doctor
(07:44):
Cornell West, highly esteemed from Harvard University and give this
a listen.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Well, brother Scott, the are you concerned about the Palestinians?
Can you take that off of the Palestinians and all
of this.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Well, I'm concerned about what's happening to them right now.
They're being shot the street by hamas well.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
They're under occupation. It had just had twenty thousand babies
killed in twenty three months. I think, do you believe
that a hostage on the Byalians has the same value
as a Palestinian incarcerator.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't have to ask that question.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I don't regard some of the people that were in
prison President Israel to be hostages. These were terrorists that
we had to let go in order to get these
twenty people back. The twenty living hostages did nothing wrong. Many,
as Abby pointed out in her monologue, of the people
the Palestinians wanted released are absolute terrorists.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who must many we have no trial and have had
no doubt people did nothing.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
The people taken on October the seventh were purely innocent.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
A couple of things there's Stephen. One would be for
Cornell West. If he had made the point that Gaza
was occupied by Hamas and that the Palestinians lived under
the thumb of that oppression, they haven't had an election
since two thousand and seven, that'd be one thing, but
he was referring to Israel. And then my other point
would be based on something you just mentioned that I
guess needs to be repeated, and that is what do
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process that the twelve hundred Israelis who were massacred on
October seventh get from Hamas.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We kind of proved my point is that the Palestinian
Samasa the victims in this why, well, we're being occupied.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
They're not, but they use this language.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Also interestingly enough, also to the point here on the
west side of the story about twenty thousand dead babies, that
story was refracted by the BBC, And the day after
that that story published was the Sunday of the firebomb
attack in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
This disinformation is.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Getting people killed, and now he's repeating it over on CNN.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And he saw this several instances when there.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Was a story about a Israel opening fire on a posts.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
That turned out it was Hamas.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
That was doing this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The weekend that that story ran was when two embassy
staffers in Washington, DC were shot and killed. And this
is the whole point where I wanted to run this disinformation.
We saw this with the New York Times saying Israel
bomb to hospital that turned out to not be true,
with an Aaron Moss rocket that landed in the parking
lotch and none of this stuff was ever retracted and
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so here you have Cornell West, who is a fairly
educated guy. I get that he's a provocateateur of sorts,
but he's repeating a story because he read.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It and he didn't check the facts on it, and.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
So again he's positioning.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As are the victims.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And what's also interesting is, yes, you have the moss
being different facts, student members of factions happening in Palestinian
And where is the ceasefire and genocide crowd? Apparently it's
okay of the Palestinians genocide themselves here. And again this
is how you know this was all like propaganda campaign.
It was a very successful one. I would argue nothing
(10:48):
now matters other than the fact that these hostages would
come home. I don't have a lot of faith in
the peace land that's laid out, but I don't think
that that matters right now. And so again, this is
a very successful propagana campaign that suits the playbook is
being deployed by the next mayor of New York City
likely and again this is their omnipause. So it's a
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question of where do they go now while they have
to keep this alive.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Steven L.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Miller, our guest Shifting Gears a little bit to the notion,
the concept of identity politics, the dei culture that the
Trump administration is looking to wipe out and for good
reason or restore us to the meritocracy that a capitalist
society and economy should be. We're seeing some wild comments
from Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson today a case that's being
(11:34):
heard before the Supreme Court of the United States in
which Louisiana is challenging the notion that there should be
raised based congressional districts. But again, Stephen, this goes back
to identity politics and that the left views people in
very caricature form that you are judged, you are determined
by the color of your skin, by your sexual orientation,
and you need to stay in your silo and vote
(11:55):
a certain way and shut up and never step on
a line. And that's where the former president United United States,
Barack Obama goes right here on a podcast with a
severely Trump deranged Mark Miron.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
We're being tested right now.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
If you are a.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Hispanic man and you're frustrated about inflation, and so you decided, ah,
you know what, all that rhetoric about Trump doesn't matter.
I'm just mad about inflation and now you know your
sons are being stopped in LA because they look Latin.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Know, Well, that's that's that's a test.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Barack Obama was a pivotal moment for me personally, Stephen,
in my voting history. It's the last Democrat I ever
voted for in two thousand and eight. I regret it.
But how much worse is Barack Obama for this country
than we even thought he was back then?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean you can kind of draw a straight
line from you know, Obama's presidency to the murder of
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I's not blaming him, but he created this kind.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Of activist culture.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I talked about this, this notion of ice elationism.
Before he came along, we never had a president who
basically told you to get in the face of your
relatives at Thanksgiving and yell at them about healthcare like this.
This was a seminal moment. And it's fractured. It's fractured families,
it's fractured peer groups, it's fractured institutions. Media picked every conservative.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Voice off of their airways. You mentioned Scott Jennings there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think he's the only conservative regularly appears on CNN,
and he really did create this culture of hate that
neighbor heat by family, and again that kind of culture
becomes dangerous. So he's still trying to kind of pump
up this race based idea in this country. And you
can look at race relations did roughly rate upon the
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ground to the time of mister Hope and change his presidency.
But what's interesting is this really is something I think
people are over.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The Jenocrat already can't move on from.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Identity because it's while they base everything around. It's why
we still tolerate Kamala Harris on her gigly book tour.
But even just to NBC was announced laid off about
one hundred and fifty staffers and reporters and they're shuttering their.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
DEI news division.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
They're Black Reporting News division, because I guess we can't
just report on people as well as their LGBTQ division.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's NBC News. This isn't like you know, Breitbart and Fox.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Here, and so really this is kind of reading the room.
And I've never seen a president, a former president, who
is such a victim of his own ego than Barack Obama.
He mentioned in during this podcast with Mark barn that
you know, the country rejected all of the values that
him and Michelle tried to install, and he's being very
factual there, Yes we did.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And so again I think that one.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Of the things is he really does have I think
ego envy of Donald Trump. And what I mean by
that is, regardless of what you think about Donald Trump,
Trump is going to go down as an American icon.
And I'm not somebody who's a Trump voter. It's just
a simple fact.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
This is a guy who has been a seminal point in.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Our lives since the aides, whether with the wrestling guy,
the boxing guy, the Apprentice. He was a number one
paid television star, and then he goes on to be
president twice. And I think Obama really suffers from the
fact that Trump really.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Did beaton at his own media game.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Stephen L. Miller our guest. There's one other thing I'd
like you to opine on here, Stephen, and that is
the appearance by Cheryl Hines on the View. Earlier today,
I had Michael Rappaport in studio. He has done a
one point eighty on President Trump over the whole issue
of Israel, and I had a great conversation with him
about that, and I don't know that he's been red pilled.
(15:34):
But for Cheryl Hines, that experience may have happened today
if it hadn't happened already based on the questioning of
her husband his credentials, whether or not he's qualified. And
this exchange with Sunny Houston coming at you in two parts.
Here is the first one on the view.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
But the problem, respectfully, is that your husband is the
least qualified Department of Health and Human Services head that
we've had in history.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I didn't.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
I think that's a very dangerous strangers be less qualified
than an economist felt his career studying toxins, studying people's health.
Speaker 9 (16:11):
It has also spread a lot of misinformation, a lot
of chaos, a lot of conclusion. And I think it's
it's just a very dangerous thing. I say it with
the utmost.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Some of it's good and some of.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So Sonny Houston goes full Ricky Bobby from Talladega Knights.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
There I met.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I said, with all due respect, that doesn't mean you
could say whatever you want. Sonny Houston says yes, and
then Cheryl Hines finishes with this spiking of the football.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Listen. We all have different views.
Speaker 11 (16:39):
Yes, And when you say, you know, misinformation disinformation. We
could go back to COVID when.
Speaker 12 (16:46):
Connect circumcision may I finished, when people fauci people were saying,
when you get the vaccine, you cannot transmit COVID, it
will stop, and that was disinformation missing.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Inimation's still learning about. It was a novel virus.
Speaker 12 (17:04):
You've neverready found it, right because now the doctors.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Will acknowledge that doctor.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
They were censoring Bobby because Bobby said, where's the science
to show us this? And there wasn't any, but people
attacked them and said you you're wrong. So it's like,
let's let's take a step back. I know that's your opinion,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Sonny Haustin saying, well, doctor fun't she has a medical degree,
then he should have known better. Point A point b
Elissa Farah maybe the stupidest insert there, the comment that
she had, well you're still learning, well, then, Stephen, why
were we told with such certainty that's six feet of
separation work, that masks work, that the vaccines stopped infection
and prevented spread. None of that was true, So why
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were we told that? Cheryl Hines, I think when's that debate.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, I mean part of this is we still don't
have COVID accountability. And I don't mean this in the
sense of putting Anthony Fauci in jail.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
It was just kind of.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Biden got in there and were moving on, right, We're
just we're going to.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Try to implement.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The Ocean Mandate, which is struck down, and that was
kind of it. Robert and Denny Junior is the same
book that he's been for decades when he was appearing
on The Daily Show and Meet the Press, that's when
his opinions on everything from climate science to you know,
radical kind of stances in the medical community.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
But I've said that what happens when you.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Lose stress in institutions, that's when you get somebody like
RFK as your Health and Human Services director.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
You don't have a leg to stand.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
On when you come to saying, well, you know he
doesn't have a medical degree, and you know he has
come some of these outlandish views. And you're right, Cheryl
Hines can simply counter with the fact that we work
present in so much disinformation over COVID over the last
four years, was over everything, whether it was body's cognitive
condition is COVID.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
It was all of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And again, the depth of expertise was a suicide here.
And so while I don't really like seeing somebody like
Robert Kennedy Juniors secretary, I understand how he got there.
And it's because the CDC was not honest with people.
Even if it's even.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
If you believe that what Fauti was engaged in or
Francis Collins was engaged in it was a noble lie,
it was still a lie.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And this is simply the reckoning for that. And this
is what happens again when institutions lose abuse the trust
that they have. This is how you end up with
Robert F. Kennedy as your poss human services director and
that it's as simple as that. And you're right, Cheryl
Hines is very calm here. And again this idea that
media is going to try to lecture her about her husband,
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that leaves a bad.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Taste in everyone's mouth.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And one thing to remind your audience, the view falls
under the purview of ABC's news division. It doesn't fall
under the entertainment division. It doesn't fall under sitcoms or whatever.
It is strictly overseen by the production and the producers
of ABC News.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh look, it's the consequences of our actions.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Is the explanation exactly right.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't like it. I don't like I don't like it,
but that's exactly how.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
We got here.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Check out his latest the Versus Media podcast. Find that
on his substack and the home base for him on AX.
He's a must follow there at Red Steve Steven L.
Miller always glad to have you on. Thanks for your
time today, Sure anytime, all right, this time out, We're
back with more after this. I'm Ryan Schuling Live said,
(20:28):
I might as well throw a tomahawk or too. That
reminds me I still owe Dan kaplis a tomahawk Ribbi Steak.
He won't take it from me. I'm telling you, I
have tried multiple times. I think he just doesn't want
to be seen in public with me, and I can't
necessarily blame him on that one. Would you rather be
seen in public with the former Amy Spoor or with
a guy like me? I get it, I get it.
(20:50):
It's a severe downgrade and why would he do that?
I wouldn't do that, but the offer is still on
the table. I lost a bet with Dan, and I
think it was revolving around whther or not Joe Biden
would drop out of the race, and he was right
and I was wrong, and I'm mad enough to admit it.
And you can text me five seven seven three nine
if you have any strategies that you'd like me to
(21:11):
enlist to somehow convince cajole Dan into collecting on that
Tomahawk Ribbi bet that I lost and he won. I
did the whole happy Gilmore exchange with Chubbs. When he
goes in, He's like, I was wrong, you were right,
I'm stupid, you're smart, I'm not very attractive, you're very
(21:34):
good looking. Okay, as long as you can admit that
looks like we've got a Democrat in the audience and
I welcome them, that's fine. Ryan. I agree with your
point that not all black or white people think alike,
but please note the same goes for the left, because
you and Dan often imply that they do also and
lump them into one big group. We'll expand on that
(21:55):
in a moment, but the same texture followed up with Ryan.
If you have special psychic powers or know for a
fact what every single person in a group believes, then
you can speak out about them as a whole. Well,
I don't have to, and you don't have take my
word for it. Just look at their votes. Other than
John Fetterman, who we revere on this program, I would
(22:16):
love to do an interview with John Fetterman. I think
he's a good guy. And I will call that out Texter.
When I identify an individuals that politically don't necessarily agree
with me, but I respect them, I get where they're
coming from, and I would have a beer with them.
John Fetterman is one of those. RFK Junior was a
Democrat for many years and, as Steven L. Miller pointed out,
(22:36):
kind of a kook. I get it. But I think
he's the genuine article. I think RFK Junior is sincere.
I think he's an authentic guy. And I got to
tell you, those three things mean a lot to me.
That you're not a poser, that you're not a fake,
that you're not a phony, that you're not saying one
thing in public but you really believe something else in private.
So I liked RFK Junior, and I'd enjoying the Sean
(22:56):
Hannity attack train when it looked like in the polling
that rf K Junior was going to be a threat
or a problem for Donald Trump and not for Joe
Biden Kamala Harris. But when that was identified, Charlie Kirk
helped brok her a deal between MAGA and MAHA, and
I knew that the mega powers were going to unite.
I could see that coming because I try to keep
an eye on the big picture and having RFK Junior
(23:19):
in the fold, having Elon Musk on board, having a
Joe Rogan even with his podcast influence reach. I'm telling
you that's why Donald Trump won the election without those
three guys right there that I just named, and those
are just the three biggest ones. There were others, but
those were the three biggest. You take any one of
them out, and certainly if you take all three of
them out, RFK jor Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, I don't
(23:42):
know that Donald Trump wins the election. He certainly doesn't
win the popular vote. I believe Trump won the popular
vote because of the alliance that he had with so
many disaffected Democrats like RFK Junior, but that never in
a million years would consider voting for Trump. But once
RFK Junior was on They're like, you know what, I
don't like the guy, necessarily meaning Trump, but it's better
(24:05):
than the alternative. And that's how you got to vote. People.
You're never gonna get the perfect candidate. This is what
libertarians always hold out for. You're not gonna get it. It's
not gonna happen. Libertarian candidate has never won anything ever,
except maybe a libertarian Republican like Thomas Massey or Ran
Paul and I like those guys a lot, but running
as a libertarian, they don't win. They just sit around
and lose and complain about everything. Yeah, I'm gonna do
(24:26):
that now. Do I have problems with the Republican Party, Yes,
but they are much more aligned with my views and
values than this Democratic party that has left me way behind.
I have nothing really I can really think of that
comes to mind in common with him, and to the
further point that that texture makes if there was a
(24:47):
difference between the dude Senator Jeff Bridges, who I like personally.
He is my state senator Democrat. I like him. He's
an example of a guy. He's friends with Ross Kaminski.
They have a whiskey and cotch and bourbon together. I
think and I would gladly do that with Senator Bridges,
good guy, he gets along really well Senator Barbar Kirkmeyer.
But here's where the rubber meets the road. Here's the test.
(25:10):
Does he vote any differently than say, Representative Lorraina Garcia
in the Colorado General Assembly or any other lunatic Democrat
that has brought so much pain to bear for the
people of Colorado. Show me the votes where Senator Bridges
has departed from his far left element of the Democratic
(25:31):
Party in the General Assembly, and I will gladly concede
that point. But you can't do it because it hasn't happened.
Jarrett Polish is ostensibly run as some kind of moderate libertarian.
Maybe he has a lane to run for president. He doesn't.
He assigned every single bit of lunatic, left wing wacko
legislation that's come to his desk, including one that he criticizes,
(25:53):
which is this competency crap that some Republicans signed off.
I'm still mad about that one. I am living at
that one. Sheriff Steve Reams and I talk about that
all the time. It was a sellout of biblical proportions
that any Republican would have voted for that crap and
didn't see it coming down the train tracks, that it
(26:14):
would be used and abused by those that were not
really mentally ill, but they would show up to a
court hearing or I'm insane, I don't know what I'm doing,
I'm not competent. I've got I want shrink shopping. And
I found one that told me, I'm nuts, I'm not
competent to say, okay, charges are wave got by, And
now we've got Republicans back peddling. Thankfully, I guess a
(26:36):
little late to the Welcome to the Party Pal Bruce
Willis style, John McLain and die Hard. But there are
some Republicans who had the audacity, who had the principle,
like Brandy Bradley, like Scott Bottoms, like Gabe Evans that
were never on board with that crap to begin with,
didn't give it one ounce of oxygen. And further to
(26:58):
that point, Texter, every single Democrat voted for that crap.
That's just one example. Then there's the gun grab bill.
That's another one. Are you nuts? That's gonna be overturned
as unconstitutional and it'll take time and the Democrats will
impede on our Second Amendment rights in the meantime, But
no Democrat left the reservation for that one. So if
(27:20):
you're telling me I can't lump them in all to
one group, why do they vote as one block on
every single blanken bill that comes before them. Show me
the moderate Democrat in the Colorado General Assembly that strays
from the rest of the pack and votes against that block.
(27:42):
They don't do it. So that's why I lump them in.
That's an ideological view, that's not an immutable characteristic. Not
all gay people vote the same way. I know that
because I know many gay Republicans. Not all black people
vote the same way. I know that because I know
Black Republicans, and I wouldn't want any group to be
(28:06):
labeled for their immutable characteristics or even their financial background
anything else, and say you're automatically this. You're not automatically anything.
You have your own mind, you have your own values,
you have your own principles, you will vote on those.
And if you come to a conclusion that you're a Democrat,
well then that's one thing. But the left, Barack Obama
(28:28):
and now we see Kntunji Brown Jackson, they are assuming
that you're idiots, and that all black people think the
same way, are all gay people think the same way
and should vote the same way, And if you don't
do that, well, you're a trader to your race, or
you're a trader to the LGBTQ community. Faltimore Archiletta hears
that all the time, and I'm sure other members of
(28:49):
the log cabin Republicans do as well. But we go
back to the Cheryl Hines example, or even Michael Rappaport,
and when they come over to our side, or they
attend a mega event, a Trump rally, any gathering like that,
they are welcomed with open arms. We don't just push
them aside. If they're willing to change their mind and
consider a new way of thinking, new point of view,
(29:13):
then they should feel welcome. But the Left, unless you
adhere to their orthodoxy, if you step out of line.
You just saw it on the View today. Cheryl Hines
was once in the in crowd with all of Hollywood,
with Larry David, with everybody in Los Angeles, I'm sure,
and now she's persona non grata, and now she's probably
rethinking things. And it goes back to this quote that
(29:35):
she gave to Megan McCain of all people, and she
was surprised and delightfully surprised.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
How is a magdal landred you.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
They've been so kind good, I've been I'm really grateful
that people have been kind to me. The Republicans have
really been missed me.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Good good. I don't want anyone to be mean to
you or your family.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That is the difference. We do not view people as
a monolith, unless Texter your point. If you all vote
the same way, then yeah, that speaks for your values.
You vote your values. And if you're a representative elected
to a seat, and a Jeff Bridges knows that he's
in a purple district with a lot of people like
me that he's representing, but he's voting way against anything
(30:25):
that's even in bounds for a moderate. But of course
he's going to be lumped in with the far left
because that's the way he's voting. One last break, we're
back to wrap it all up and Ryan Schuling live
after this President Trump, and I'm trying to figure out
where does President Trump end and where does Sean Ferrish
(30:46):
as President Trump begin, because there's a lot of overlap there.
This from the text line five seven, seven, three, nine, Ryan,
my last Democrat vote was for Bill Ritter, and he
was the one that came up with the road and
bridge because voters didn't know as much as him and
the Democrats. That would have been the lesson learned and
the one that I learned after I stupidly voted for
(31:08):
Obama in eight because I was disaffected with George W.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Bush.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Little did I know. I should have known. I was
not wise at that time. This one says spot on
my Rep. Dev Tammy story is absolutely a lockstep voter,
Steven Littleton, that's right. You know, until learn less they
separate themselves with their votes. They can say all they
want that they're a moderate, they're not. John Fetterman walks
the walk, talks the talk. He's the real deal. I
(31:33):
can respect that. Nobody, not one person in the Colorado
General Assembly deviates from the mob. And that's a problem.
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