January 29, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Ryan is joined by Susan Crabtree -- a Real Clear Politics national political correspondent who is as well-sourced a reporter on the Secret Service as exists in the media. She has the inside scoop on mixed feelings within the agency about Sean Curran, leader of President Trump's Butler, Pennsylvania security detail, being appointed to head the department in charge of safety for the Commander-in-Chief.
Susan is also the author of Fool's Gold: The Radicals, Con Artists, and Traitors Who Killed the California Dream and Now Threaten Us All. The book is available for pre-order on Amazon as is set to be released on Tuesday, March 11.
Ryan also treats the audience to another edition of 'Based Fetterman'.
Susan is also the author of Fool's Gold: The Radicals, Con Artists, and Traitors Who Killed the California Dream and Now Threaten Us All. The book is available for pre-order on Amazon as is set to be released on Tuesday, March 11.
Ryan also treats the audience to another edition of 'Based Fetterman'.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mixed feelings about the situation with Sean. He certainly it's
EON's better. It's worlds better than it was just yesterday
when he was not named officially. But there are some
concerns that he doesn't have the forceful personality that you
might need in a job that you're seen with.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Such an overhaul is.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Needed at the Secret Service and with the president's life
on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But they did just come off.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Across after a wonderfully successful inauguration that they brought inside,
which made it a little bit easier to protect the president.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Susan Crabtree the voice you just heard, and she joins
us right off the top today. She's the national political
correspondent for Real Clear Politics, so you can follow her
on x at Susan Crabtree. She also has a new
book out called Fool's Gold. We'll talk about that and
just a little bit. But she joins us live once
again on Ryan Schuling Live here to talk about Sean Kerran,
the next director of the Secret Service. Susan, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I thanks for having me Ryan. It's good to be
with you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Van absolutely always enjoy our conversations. I saw you with
Jesse Kelly and it prompted some questions because I know
nobody is more informed as far as sourcing on the
inside of the Secret Service than you are. So I
guess we'll just start with Sean Curran. Who he is
and why he has been appointed to this role.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, Sean is the head of the Donald Trump campaign detail.
That is a group of agents that have been texting
the President during his campaign for several years now, and
he was that is the man in the iconic photo
with the funglasses, the Secret Service agent next to Donald
Trump as the Trump as Donald Trump is pumping his
(01:44):
fist and saying fight, fight, fight, with blood and coming
down from his ear. So Sean is a lot of
people think he has You know, he's an extremely well
respected agent in terms of his own abilities, but there
is some concern. First I'll talk about his the positives
(02:05):
for him. A lot of people believe that well, he
did in fact request additional security assets for the Donald
Trump detail repeatedly over the course of two years, and
those security assets were denied. The first time that that
Donald Trump received a counter Schniper team was at right
before the Butler rally, but they were rushed in the
(02:27):
way that they were. They came in late and were
authorized late, and so he has had a lot of attributes.
He has the receipts, he supposedly has the emails for that.
And Donald Trump obviously you trust him and he's been
his literally at his back, had his back, were years
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now trying to keep him safe. But there were failures,
obvious layers of failures that day in Butler, and he
was the head of the detail and was the failures
were under his direct watch. He was involved in not
getting Trump off the stage, and other failures had to
do with not covering the ADR building at all, not
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covering the top of it. And you know where does
the buck stop?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
People are asking, Susan Crabtree, real clear politics joining us
talking Sean Curran, the next director of the Secret Service?
Has that been finalized?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Susan, Yes, it is. He's actually in the jobs he
was there was. The agents are calling it bloody Friday.
He moved people out on Friday, devil top leadership positions.
He was shuffling people around. Some people were forced to retire,
others got reassignments. And Ron Roe is no longer at
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the agency at all. He retired. So yeah, it's a
new day. At the Secret Service, and people are hopeful
other agents that weren't involved in some of the main
problems that I believe and others believe, you know, we're
contributed to the failures at Butler, including the very very
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significant DEI programs that were at the Secret Service that
lower training and stand hiring standards, and where people were
even things like the type of gun that the Secret
Services use based because some of the women agents didn't
like a particular gun because they didn't like the blowback
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on the gun. Are you know what it's called retreat?
I think anyway, it's there's a lot of issues that
that the Secret Service needs a deep, deep overhaul. And
these agents that are the solar agents that have put
up with all of the problems that they're deeply concerned
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about it for so many years, that literally put their
lives on the line to depract the president and his
family and vice president their families.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They're hopeful with some caveats, Susan, we know that President
Trump is a retail politician in the truest sense, the
most literal definition of that word.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You do this for me, I'll do this for you.
He's an extrovert. He thrives on enthusiasm of the people
around him, and he builds personal relationships that I think
affect what his decisions are. I'm not saying that's good, better,
and different, but we did see there's a lot of
loyalty coming from President Trump to a person like Sean Curran,
who he is constantly championed and defended. When he was
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on the campaign trail delivering speeches, he was very effusive
in his praise for those agents that were directly surrounding
him in Butler, and he included one of those female agents.
He called her Kate I believe, and said she was
great and mentioned her by name. Shawn's another one of those.
Do you think this decision was influenced by Donald Trump's
personal relationship with Sean Kerran, feeling that he could trust him,
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that he could depend on him, that this is really
the personal nature of this hiring. How much of that
do you think was a factor?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Absolutely was a huge factor in this hiring. This has happened,
has happened in the past. It happened with Kimberly. The
selection of Kimberly cheetle that Jill Biden was very close
to her and trusted her when she helped protect them
the family when during the vice presidential time in office,
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Sten she helped her get the job at PepsiCo too.
So this is something that is kind of a to
be honest, is a concern because when you get so
close to an agent that literally is spending the most
time of your life with this agent of any person
other than your spouse, maybe even more than your spouse
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in some cases, that you trust them, you're trusting a
prete security every minute of the day. And so there's
a bond that's forged. But two different Blue Riven missions,
one in twenty fifteen and one just last year last
fall recommended that you choose somebody from outside the agency
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to try to make sure that there is an independent
thought process involved and that the relationship between the president
and the agent does not obscure some of the issues
like we like we saw with what I call cocaine
Gate at the White House. You know what, did the
Circut Service try to protect the Biden family in that
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scenario or a Biden staffer White House staffer. We don't know,
because they basically closed up a clam investigation within eleven
days and really did not They had a partial DNA
hit on that cocaine, but nobody ever did anything about it.
They didn't test it against anybody's DNA at the.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
White House, grab Tree, Real clear politics joining us here, Susan.
Just a couple of pieces of the puzzle on a
together and have you analyze it based on your insider
perspective on this. I've watched in recent days and I'm
sure perhaps you have as well. Dan Bongino, who personally
has experience in this realm as a Secret Service agent,
(08:12):
and many people, myself included, were hoping that he would
be the next director of the Secret Service that didn't
pan out. He was expressing concern that he was not
even consulted on this. I found that a little bit surprising.
He has expressed some mixed feelings reservations about Sean Kerrent,
probably along the same lines that you're talking about, and
he probably has personal relationships a lot of these agents
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that might be telling him some things off the record,
as maybe you are as a reporter hearing the same.
But Sean Kerrn coming into this job the Bloody Friday,
as you described it, with the firings, the reassignments, the retirements,
ron Roe departing, I mean, that's an encouraging sign for
those of us that would like to see fundamental change
from within the Secret Service. But you just touched on something,
(08:55):
and I'm going to make a comparison and see where
it goes from here. Just your analysis of it. I'm
asking for your opinion. For instance, Cash Ptel is going
to be brought in and if he's confirmed as the
director of FBI, we are determined, I believe, from our side,
to get to the bottom of what happened on January sixth,
the bomb planting, who put it there, why were the
messages destroyed? Cash Betel has promised, I believe to get
(09:17):
to the bottom of all that. Just a specific example,
what you just said would sean current. For example, you
might not know the answer to this. Be determined to
get to the bottom of what happened with cocaine at
the White House or any of these other questions that
have come into the public sphere about whether or not
the Secret Service is equipped to do the job to
which it is assigned.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's an open question, and that you hit on the
very topic. People. Secret Service is in a very insular agency.
It's been riddled with problems for decades. There's a lot
of fization between the ranks that haven't gone on. There's
the in crowd, the outcrowd. There's an uneven retaliation facing
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multiple lawsuits on DEI uh, there is a lot at
Sean Curran's doorstep that he's going to have to deal with.
And yeah, John Dan Bongino, who had been on his
show several times, and he says that Sean's not the
right man for the job. He didn't say it didn't
wasn't consulted. He said, I did provide my advice and
(10:20):
I was overruled. So yeah, yeah, he said that several
times publicly. So basically, you know, it's hard. I would
think it's an emotional decision, one of the most personal
decisions you're making as president on who you're going to
trust to leave the team to protect you and your family.
(10:40):
So it's it's definitely influenced by who you spend your
time with every day. But Dan says, you know, it
shouldn't be that shouldn't be the case, and he had,
you know, people suggested that he might do it. I'm
I'm believing that he might play some role as an
advisory committee, maybe with others with similar experience in the
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military or in a protective operations. But yeah, I mean,
I think there's some concerns. Even Eric Prince on a
panel that I actually was on the one panel before
them at the Heritage Foundation after Butler. They Eric Prince
is on a panel with Dan Vines, you know, and
said Sean Curran did not get the president out the door,
(11:26):
out of off that stage properly. According to you know,
Rik Prince, as an expert as you know, and private security.
He had Blackwater, they had their problems in the Middle East,
but they never lost a protectee. And he said, you
know the way you do that, you form a body
bunker over the protectee and then you get them off
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the stage as quickly as possible. Of course, that did
not happen with Donald Trump that day. And you can
say whether it was there's no way you could keep
the president bath and he was He's just is just
not it's a sort of an indietigable personality. But it
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was a tough job, no doubt that day. I do give,
obviously give Sean credit for being one of the first
two leaped on top of Donald Trump that day, putting
his body in his life on the line. For the president,
but there were other multiple failures and it occurred. Those
failures according to the Congressional investigations and the Independent Review
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Board Bipartisan that those failures were mainly on the Donald
Trump detail. The inability that the inability to cover that
AGR building was a young female agent while I'm told
as the DEI hire who did not it wasn't supposed
to really shouldn't have had no business being in charge
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of security that day at Butler, and yet she was.
And Who's Who's responsible for that? Is Sean Karran responsible
for that? Is the DEI hiring policies responsible for that?
We are going to find out. Yeah, it's going to
be We'll see. I have to wait see, but it's
certainly Ian's better than what the leadership was like just
(13:12):
days ago with acting acting director Ron Row.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Absolutely, and that's my approach to it's wait and see.
I'm willing to give Sean kerr In a chance. Like
you said, and like Dan Bongino has said, there's been
mixed reaction to it. He can prove us wrong and
he certainly has started on the right foot with the
reorganization that you have described and reported on. Susan Crabtree.
Our guests be sure to follow her on acts by
that same handle at Susan Crabtree. Susan want to give
you a chance to go over with us. Perhaps the
(13:38):
most well timed book ever written, and that's Yours Fool's Gold,
the radicals, con artists, and traders who killed the California
dream and now threaten us all now. A hardcover edition
is due for release on March eleventh. That's coming about
a month and a half from right now. But as
I mentioned, the timing of this, you could not have known,
you know, God forbid these California wildfires happened, but they did.
(14:02):
What went into the decision to write this book? And
how kind of spooked are you by the timing of
this with everything that's happening in California right now?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, I would have preferred to have the book out
before Kalamala Harris was chosen as president, because we spent
a lot of time about on her In the book.
We also spent a lot of time on Gavin Newsom
and his policies on crime and homelessness, and also wildfire issues.
I have a whole chapter dedicated to wildfires. It's called
(14:32):
Up and smoke in the book and what is behind
these things? Because I witnessed them when I left Washington
DCM moved back to California in twenty seventeen, and we
had endless seasons of what we had, one wildfire season
after another. It was like it was an inevitable and
you had these towns up in northern California completely wiped
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out and they were not the high its economic towns
like the Pacific Palisades. So I don't know what I said,
why are we tolerating this? People were eighty five people
in Palisades were burned alive. I mean, why in the world.
It's like a third world country here. Why are we tolerating?
(15:19):
Isn't this but just every season it just kept coming
and coming in. You know, the California says that it's
climate change is causing these fires, and I beg to differ.
And that makes me actually angry when people say that,
because these file fires can mean we didn't have these
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growing up in California, not to this extent. We had some,
but not to this extent. And there's the policies of
environmental policies extreme combined with the utilities not maintaining their
equipment while hiking rates on customers across the straight and
then they poor political money to Democratic leaders all of
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the state. Kevin Newsom himself has taken more than seven
hundred thousand dollars and his wife for her documentary filmmaking
from Pacific as an Electric and they are responsible for
at least fifteen hundred wildfires, including the deadliest one, the
one I killed eighty five people up in northern California
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in twenty eighteen. It is just something that I am
extremely I've been extremely disconcerned about for years, and I
see now it all playing out in Los Angeles and
all of a sudden, now we're going to do something
about it because it's hitting a very affluent area. But
it's past time for these policies to be jettisoned reevaluated.
(16:53):
And I just hope that fits California Angelina's wake up
because they had a good choice in Riccruso managed to
see because his small in Pacific Palisades is one of
the only things that survived because he hired private firefighters.
But whoever talks about climate change and they say they
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care about climate change. The fires from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty, they wiped out any carbon gains that the
state made by their ev mandates and other entiropolicies over
the last two decades. So if you care about if
you supposedly care about climate change, then you would care
(17:35):
about solving these preventing these wildfires. And they did not
do anything. In fact, the policies that the Democratic politicians
imposes on the whole state contributed, if not caused, some
of these wildfires.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You can pre order it on Amazon. It'll be available
hardcover March eleventh. Fool's Gold The Radicals, con artists, and
traders who killed the California Dream and now threaten us
all an investigation that shows how the most ambitious figures
in the Democratic Party want to transform the rest of
America into the progressive dystopia that is California. It is
(18:10):
written by Susan Crabtree, also authored by Jed mcfatter, and
you can find it on Amazon your favorite bookstore. Coming
up March eleventh. I'm sure Susan will talk between now
and then more about this book. We thank you so
much for joining us today and appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I appreciate you and your interest.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Thanks so much for having me all right, Susan Crabtree
joining us their real clear politics is where you can
find her and follow her on x at Susan Crabtree
your text at five seven seven three nine you reaction
to anything that you heard. Sean Current at the iconic
photo of President Trump raising his fist American flag in
the background, he had just been shot, the blood coming
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down his ear. The gentleman in sunglasses looking directly into
the camera of that iconic shot, that is Sean Current,
and I wanted to talk to Susan and we've got
some great information there about what it means for Sean
Agent Current to be leading the Secret Service, and he's
made some sweeping changes within the agency. I think that's
a good start. I'm willing to give him a chance.
(19:07):
I know Dan Bongino has his reservations. There are some
concerns that he doesn't maybe have the alpha type personality
you'd want in that position. But Donald Trump trusts him
and he picked Sean for a reason, and they're very
personal and it's a very personal position to have that
kind of loyalty. So we'll see where it goes from here.
Based Fetterman coming up next on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Can we I'm I'm going to vote on the Lincoln Bill,
and I was a co sponsor with that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He just slips in there at the end. I was
co sponsor to the Lincoln Riley Act, and I'm going
to go vote on that right now. John Fetterman more gold.
This guy is a constant source of it. We're glad
to bring it to you on Ryan Shuling Live. He
is far and away my favorite Democrat in Congress. And
I know that sounds like a backhanded compliment, and it is.
(20:06):
But John Fetterman is untainted and I believe by any
kind of special interest or a darkened influence or hand
that might be behind the scenes, otherwise influencing controlling a
lot of those in Washington, including those who would pretend
or poortend to be on the right side of the
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political spectrum Isle Republicans, et cetera. There's a lot of
corruption in Washington and it goes both directions. We're not
going to be naive here. But John Fetterman, it really
seems like he just says what he thinks, means what
he says. And I would not be surprised if Senator
Fetterman won his bid for reelection by at least ten
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points in Pennsylvania. He has that broad based, common sense
appeal to those that are in the middle, and there
aren't many states that are as close to right in
the middle politically overall than Pennsylvania. It might be the
kind of turning point state, the swing state. And what
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he has done in his time in office, I don't
know that he's missed a beat. I was disappointed that
he didn't support Pete hag Seth, but don't be surprised
if he comes around on maybe several of these other
nominees and says, hey, president Trump won, to the winner,
go the spoils. This is the line we were constantly
fed by the likes of Senator John McCain and Senator
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Lindsay Graham and those in the mishmash of the muddled middle.
And I don't think that they're wrong. I believe that
by and large President Obama and even President Biden, if
they wanted to ruin the country and have horrible appointees
like Alejandro Mayorcis or Anthony Blincoln, then you know, why
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should I get in their way. That's kind of where
I'm coming from on a lot of this and Unfortunately
we were right. We were right on almost every single
member of the Biden I can't think of one that
overperformed expectations. They were all disasters. Lloyd Austin as Secretary
of Defense. Jennifer Granholm a Secretary of Energy. She had
no experience in the industry, none.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
She was a.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Carpet bagger governor of my home state of Michigan. She's Canadian.
She had no working knowledge of energy. Whatsoever was a
simple favor that was returned to her for her support
in Biden's campaign. It was retail politics, but based on
nothing regarding her own set of experiences or what she
brought to the table. Pete Buddha Jetge is Transportation Secretary,
(22:34):
a disaster, no experience. In his introductory press conference, he
talked about how much he loved planes and trains, Wealth Law.
If he loved automobiles, then he's naming one of my
favorite movies. But that doesn't make him qualified to be
Secretary of Transportation. Now, this carpet bagger himself is trying
to invade Michigan and run it would appear, according to
(22:57):
reports for Senate as Gary pa announced today that he
will not run for reelection Gary Peters extensively has been
somewhat of a moderate Democrat in the Senate. And I
don't have anything personal against Gary Peters other than he's
wrong on almost everything. But footage Edge can't represent Indiana,
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it's too red. Can't represent South Ben. He ruined it
and did a horrible job as Secretary of Transportation, took
paternity to leave for what three months. Nobody knew where
he was, Nobody cared until something came up, and then
he wasn't there to do anything about it. John Fetterman,
though he's compiling a lot of these based Fetterman segments
(23:39):
and will be getting to another one at least one
other one today. I've got three here. That was just
one that you heard. This is not condensed into such
a segment. But John Fetterman also appeared on the View
and he was making their head spin. They didn't know
how to take him because they can't really attack him.
He's one of their own, or at least that's what
they would hope to believe, and yet he's not, because
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he's going to calm like he sees them, and as
he said in this very appearance on the View yesterday,
he's going to call balls and strikes. He's representing the
people of Pennsylvania, and the people of Pennsylvania by and
large are moderate, They're purple, they're in the middle, they're
not extreme on either side. And he is playing to
his base, but also playing to the masses in the
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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I'm on record criticizing going after Hunter Biden, and I
also agreed that the trial in this city in New
York was politically motivated. That wouldn't otherwise have been prosecuted
if it was someone else. And I've been very front
and center in pardons. You know, I shared that process
in Pennsylvania. You know, I was all about delivering second chances,
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and I'm very proud of that. And I think that's
really the cornerstone of criminal justice reform is if you
are following the rules and you've paid your debt, I
do believe you do to believe there needs to be
a path for redemption and this process. You know, whether
Joe Biden or whether they're President Trump, you know, I
don't agree with many of those parts, especially on the
(25:05):
J six ones, and I've called that out. I've been
on record saying that that's just not true. If you
are going to abuse the process. You know, somebody that's
been very committed as part of that has made that
part of my career.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think it's sad.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Because it's been politicized, and I think, if anything, that
might have set some things back because people assume, now,
you know, depending on what teams in office, you know,
those are the people that get some.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Redemption valid points. That's fair. I don't agree with everything
that John Fetterman said, but these are his honest opinions,
and at least they're out there for public consumption, and
you can take them or you can leave them. You
can agree with them or you can disagree with them.
But Senator Fetterman is willing to have those conversations, and
he's willing to say that Donald Trump was politically targeted
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by a weaponized Department of Justice from President Biden. And
good for him for saying. So we need a lot
more people like John Fetterman in Washington who are not
going to be cow towing to special interests and the
powers that be. And that's not him, and I appreciate that.
I respect him for it, and I wouldn't be surprised
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to bring full circle of this conversation. We have hearings
this week for Cash Patel, RFK Junior, Telsea Gabbert. Those
are three big ones. They're controversial ones just because they're
driving the left nuts. And I love it because two
of them were of the left not that long ago.
And in fact, Cash Pattel, I believe, I'm not mistaken
back in twenty sixteen, originally was working for Hillary Clinton.
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But certainly RFK Junior, I mean a legacy of family
in the Democratic Party. Tulsa Gabbert was a very staunch
Democrat out of Hawaii that doesn't even elect Republicans ever,
and yet she has abandoned the Democratic Party that left
her first. And you could say the same about RFK Junior.
And I'll be very curious to see where a lot
of these senators come down on those votes, whether or
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not Fetterman might join the ranks of the majority of Republicans.
And let's say, you know, they peel off Lisa Murkowski
and Susan Collins again or Cocaine Mitch. Would Fetterman, you know,
being the honest broker that I believe he is, vote
for these nominees if he feels, hey, they're qualified. I
might not agree with them, but this is President Trump's
choice and he gets to select the people that work
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in his cabinet. We are in a role as the
Senate to advise and consent, and I'm going to vote yes.
He might be one of the only Democrats that does
that in a lot of these cases, but don't be
surprised if he might be the determining factor in one
of these votes. We'll take a break when we come back.
Caroline Levitt, it was her first day on the job
in full as the press secretary for the Trump administration
(27:45):
after the forty seventh president was inaugurated, and she handled
the press with a plum. We'll have some of those
highlights coming your way after this time out rounding out
our number one still to come, We're going to break
down whether or not Colorado is the same squary state.
Democrats are running from that word. I described this before,
and you might have heard it here first. They are
(28:06):
running from the word sanctuary, the same way that long
ago they ran away from the word liberal and instead
embrace the word progressive, or leaving the term global warming
and instead embracing climate change. It's always a word game
that turns into a shell game, and they're trying to
(28:27):
distract you, and they're trying to deceive you with who
they are, what they represent, and what their policies really mean.
They are on the run when it comes to illegal
immigration in this country. They know it, so they're trying
to change and shape the language around it. It's Jared Polis,
It's Mike Johnston, It's Brandon Johnson, Chicago mayor just wait
(28:50):
till you hear that clip. And Representative Jeff Crank, fifth
Congressional District, Colorado Springs. He'll be joining us in our
second ear to push back on Jared Poulus trying to
pull this Jedi mind trick on all of us home.
We're not a sanctuary state. We never have been, and
we never will be, except that we are Ryan Schuling.
Life continues after this.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
The drones that were flying over New Jersey and large
numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for
research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were
also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals that enjoy flying jones
in meantime. In time, it got worse due to curiosity.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
This was not the enemy.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
A statement from the President of the United States to
start this briefing with some news.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And a good way to start things. From the new
kid in town by the Eagles there. Good job by
Zach Seekers behind the scenes pulling that one out. Caroline
Lovett reading a statement from President Trump explaining what the
drones over New Jersey were and that they were authorized
by the FAA for research and recreation. Why couldn't the
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Biden administration have told us this? It's like one of
those things. You know, certain people, they're pathological liars, and
they lie about the stupidest things, or they leave out
the most convenient truths which might actually do them a favor.
But they're so addicted to lying and so addicted to
the lie that they are, that they represent that they're
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committed to the lie in all cases, even when the
truth would serve them better. And it truly is some
form of psychosis. I can't explain it. There's a reporter
who asks this question. I want to play just the
question for you, and then I'll give the answer that
Caroline delivered, a question that we've asked you. Your predecessors
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of both parties in this job.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
When you're up here in this breaking room as speaking
to the American public view yourself and your role as
speaking on advocating on behalf of the president, of providing
the unvarnished truth, that is, you know, not to lie,
not to off escape to the American paper.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I don't know who this reporter is and I don't
know his motivation, so I don't want to prejudge him
on that basis. However, how much of the unvarnished truth,
as a percentage just prote out there a number. I'm
asking you for your opinion, how much of the unvarnished
truth that we get from either Jensaki or KJP. I
(31:26):
would argue none. There was always a varnish in a
spinning there's going to be from the Press Secretary's podium.
I get that. But Caroline Lovett delivered this answer and
deconstructed the mainstream media the fake news in under a minute.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I commit to telling the truth from this podium every
single day. I commit to speaking on behalf of the
president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That is my job.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
And I will say it's very easy to speak truth
from this podium when you have a president who is
implementing policies that are wildly popular with the American people
and that's exact exactly what this administration is doing. It's
correcting the lies and the wrongs of the past four years,
many of the lies that have been told to your
faces in this very briefing room.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I will not do that.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
But since you brought up truth seek, I would like
to point out, while I vow to provide the truth
from this podium, we ask that all of you in
this room hold yourselves to that same standard.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
We know for a fact there have been lies.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
That have been pushed by many legacy media outlets in
this country about this president, about his family, and we
will not accept that. We will call you out when
we feel that your reporting is wrong or there is
misinformation about this White House. So yes, I will hold
myself to the truth, and I expect everyone in this
room to do the same.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Caroline love It, Wow, home run right there. She's twenty
seven years old, youngest ever to occupy this position, and
she is a rising star. All of that was extemporaneous,
by the way, no notes, no binder, no prescripted whatever.
That was completely from the heart and off the top
of her head. And that's how you communicate effectively. You
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can't do it by reading a script or carrying around
a binder like KJP, who was a disaster in that position.
Caroline Lovett is going to do the president just well
and just fine in that role. Patty says the drones
were the Biden administration wanted to keep the citizens in
fear easier to control. Patty. That's a great point. Fear
is a powerful motivator and we found that out during COVID.
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Remember this from Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer. Pretty much,
any person's removed from the Biden regime have to be
looked at as positives. Well, and I would say there
has to be sweeping changes. I don't know how much
can be done and you still maintain the integrity, and
I mean like the physical integrity to a support structure
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within a government agency and have it continue to function
and exist. It might take some draconian cuts of jobs
across the board, which would also save us money, by
the way, So I'm keeping an eye on that the
budget part of this. But look at what Elon Musk
did with Twitter, turning it into X. Look at all
the firings, the mass firings he had. They're people that
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were just showing up these gen ZS no offense Act,
but certain percentages of them that thought they could just
show up, get a well paying job, and after COVID
maybe not even have to go into the office anymore,
not even have to literally show up, mail it in,
have a title, not really do anything. And the evaluation
that Elon Musk had of X has turned it into
(34:31):
a leaner, meaner, cleaner information machine. It is better with
fewer employees, fewer chefs in the kitchen. And I think
that could be true of many organizations and agencies across
the board in bureaucratic Washington, whether it's NIH, CDC, the FBI,
the CIA, you go on down the list, those should
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be doing its shob and now Avek Ramaswami departing Jesse
Waters had asked him about that. We'll get to the
had An hour number two along with more of your
texts at five seven, seven, three nine. We're really going
to dig down on Colorado Democrats trying to run and
hide far and fast from the term sanctuary, sanctuary cities,
sanctuary state. But we've got the receipts and we'll have
(35:16):
them for it when we come back
Mixed feelings about the situation with Sean. He certainly it's
EON's better. It's worlds better than it was just yesterday
when he was not named officially. But there are some
concerns that he doesn't have the forceful personality that you
might need in a job that you're seen with.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Such an overhaul is.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Needed at the Secret Service and with the president's life
on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But they did just come off.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Across after a wonderfully successful inauguration that they brought inside,
which made it a little bit easier to protect the president.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Susan Crabtree the voice you just heard, and she joins
us right off the top today. She's the national political
correspondent for Real Clear Politics, so you can follow her
on x at Susan Crabtree. She also has a new
book out called Fool's Gold. We'll talk about that and
just a little bit. But she joins us live once
again on Ryan Schuling Live here to talk about Sean Kerran,
the next director of the Secret Service. Susan, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I thanks for having me Ryan. It's good to be
with you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Van absolutely always enjoy our conversations. I saw you with
Jesse Kelly and it prompted some questions because I know
nobody is more informed as far as sourcing on the
inside of the Secret Service than you are. So I
guess we'll just start with Sean Curran. Who he is
and why he has been appointed to this role.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, Sean is the head of the Donald Trump campaign detail.
That is a group of agents that have been texting
the President during his campaign for several years now, and
he was that is the man in the iconic photo
with the funglasses, the Secret Service agent next to Donald
Trump as the Trump as Donald Trump is pumping his
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fist and saying fight, fight, fight, with blood and coming
down from his ear. So Sean is a lot of
people think he has You know, he's an extremely well
respected agent in terms of his own abilities, but there
is some concern. First I'll talk about his the positives
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for him. A lot of people believe that well, he
did in fact request additional security assets for the Donald
Trump detail repeatedly over the course of two years, and
those security assets were denied. The first time that that
Donald Trump received a counter Schniper team was at right
before the Butler rally, but they were rushed in the
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way that they were. They came in late and were
authorized late, and so he has had a lot of attributes.
He has the receipts, he supposedly has the emails for that.
And Donald Trump obviously you trust him and he's been
his literally at his back, had his back, were years
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now trying to keep him safe. But there were failures,
obvious layers of failures that day in Butler, and he
was the head of the detail and was the failures
were under his direct watch. He was involved in not
getting Trump off the stage, and other failures had to
do with not covering the ADR building at all, not
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covering the top of it. And you know where does
the buck stop?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
People are asking, Susan Crabtree, real clear politics joining us
talking Sean Curran, the next director of the Secret Service?
Has that been finalized?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Susan, Yes, it is. He's actually in the jobs he
was there was. The agents are calling it bloody Friday.
He moved people out on Friday, devil top leadership positions.
He was shuffling people around. Some people were forced to retire,
others got reassignments. And Ron Roe is no longer at
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the agency at all. He retired. So yeah, it's a
new day. At the Secret Service, and people are hopeful
other agents that weren't involved in some of the main
problems that I believe and others believe, you know, we're
contributed to the failures at Butler, including the very very
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significant DEI programs that were at the Secret Service that
lower training and stand hiring standards, and where people were
even things like the type of gun that the Secret
Services use based because some of the women agents didn't
like a particular gun because they didn't like the blowback
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on the gun. Are you know what it's called retreat?
I think anyway, it's there's a lot of issues that
that the Secret Service needs a deep, deep overhaul. And
these agents that are the solar agents that have put
up with all of the problems that they're deeply concerned
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about it for so many years, that literally put their
lives on the line to depract the president and his
family and vice president their families.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They're hopeful with some caveats, Susan, we know that President
Trump is a retail politician in the truest sense, the
most literal definition of that word.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You do this for me, I'll do this for you.
He's an extrovert. He thrives on enthusiasm of the people
around him, and he builds personal relationships that I think
affect what his decisions are. I'm not saying that's good, better,
and different, but we did see there's a lot of
loyalty coming from President Trump to a person like Sean Curran,
who he is constantly championed and defended. When he was
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on the campaign trail delivering speeches, he was very effusive
in his praise for those agents that were directly surrounding
him in Butler, and he included one of those female agents.
He called her Kate I believe, and said she was
great and mentioned her by name. Shawn's another one of those.
Do you think this decision was influenced by Donald Trump's
personal relationship with Sean Kerran, feeling that he could trust him,
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that he could depend on him, that this is really
the personal nature of this hiring. How much of that
do you think was a factor?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Absolutely was a huge factor in this hiring. This has happened,
has happened in the past. It happened with Kimberly. The
selection of Kimberly cheetle that Jill Biden was very close
to her and trusted her when she helped protect them
the family when during the vice presidential time in office,
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Sten she helped her get the job at PepsiCo too.
So this is something that is kind of a to
be honest, is a concern because when you get so
close to an agent that literally is spending the most
time of your life with this agent of any person
other than your spouse, maybe even more than your spouse
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in some cases, that you trust them, you're trusting a
prete security every minute of the day. And so there's
a bond that's forged. But two different Blue Riven missions,
one in twenty fifteen and one just last year last
fall recommended that you choose somebody from outside the agency
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to try to make sure that there is an independent
thought process involved and that the relationship between the president
and the agent does not obscure some of the issues
like we like we saw with what I call cocaine
Gate at the White House. You know what, did the
Circut Service try to protect the Biden family in that
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scenario or a Biden staffer White House staffer. We don't know,
because they basically closed up a clam investigation within eleven
days and really did not They had a partial DNA
hit on that cocaine, but nobody ever did anything about it.
They didn't test it against anybody's DNA at the.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
White House, grab Tree, Real clear politics joining us here, Susan.
Just a couple of pieces of the puzzle on a
together and have you analyze it based on your insider
perspective on this. I've watched in recent days and I'm
sure perhaps you have as well. Dan Bongino, who personally
has experience in this realm as a Secret Service agent,
(08:12):
and many people, myself included, were hoping that he would
be the next director of the Secret Service that didn't
pan out. He was expressing concern that he was not
even consulted on this. I found that a little bit surprising.
He has expressed some mixed feelings reservations about Sean Kerrent,
probably along the same lines that you're talking about, and
he probably has personal relationships a lot of these agents
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that might be telling him some things off the record,
as maybe you are as a reporter hearing the same.
But Sean Kerrn coming into this job the Bloody Friday,
as you described it, with the firings, the reassignments, the retirements,
ron Roe departing, I mean, that's an encouraging sign for
those of us that would like to see fundamental change
from within the Secret Service. But you just touched on something,
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and I'm going to make a comparison and see where
it goes from here. Just your analysis of it. I'm
asking for your opinion. For instance, Cash Ptel is going
to be brought in and if he's confirmed as the
director of FBI, we are determined, I believe, from our side,
to get to the bottom of what happened on January sixth,
the bomb planting, who put it there, why were the
messages destroyed? Cash Betel has promised, I believe to get
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to the bottom of all that. Just a specific example,
what you just said would sean current. For example, you
might not know the answer to this. Be determined to
get to the bottom of what happened with cocaine at
the White House or any of these other questions that
have come into the public sphere about whether or not
the Secret Service is equipped to do the job to
which it is assigned.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's an open question, and that you hit on the
very topic. People. Secret Service is in a very insular agency.
It's been riddled with problems for decades. There's a lot
of fization between the ranks that haven't gone on. There's
the in crowd, the outcrowd. There's an uneven retaliation facing
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multiple lawsuits on DEI uh, there is a lot at
Sean Curran's doorstep that he's going to have to deal with.
And yeah, John Dan Bongino, who had been on his
show several times, and he says that Sean's not the
right man for the job. He didn't say it didn't
wasn't consulted. He said, I did provide my advice and
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I was overruled. So yeah, yeah, he said that several
times publicly. So basically, you know, it's hard. I would
think it's an emotional decision, one of the most personal
decisions you're making as president on who you're going to
trust to leave the team to protect you and your family.
(10:40):
So it's it's definitely influenced by who you spend your
time with every day. But Dan says, you know, it
shouldn't be that shouldn't be the case, and he had,
you know, people suggested that he might do it. I'm
I'm believing that he might play some role as an
advisory committee, maybe with others with similar experience in the
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military or in a protective operations. But yeah, I mean,
I think there's some concerns. Even Eric Prince on a
panel that I actually was on the one panel before
them at the Heritage Foundation after Butler. They Eric Prince
is on a panel with Dan Vines, you know, and
said Sean Curran did not get the president out the door,
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out of off that stage properly. According to you know,
Rik Prince, as an expert as you know, and private security.
He had Blackwater, they had their problems in the Middle East,
but they never lost a protectee. And he said, you
know the way you do that, you form a body
bunker over the protectee and then you get them off
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the stage as quickly as possible. Of course, that did
not happen with Donald Trump that day. And you can
say whether it was there's no way you could keep
the president bath and he was He's just is just
not it's a sort of an indietigable personality. But it
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was a tough job, no doubt that day. I do give,
obviously give Sean credit for being one of the first
two leaped on top of Donald Trump that day, putting
his body in his life on the line. For the president,
but there were other multiple failures and it occurred. Those
failures according to the Congressional investigations and the Independent Review
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Board Bipartisan that those failures were mainly on the Donald
Trump detail. The inability that the inability to cover that
AGR building was a young female agent while I'm told
as the DEI hire who did not it wasn't supposed
to really shouldn't have had no business being in charge
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of security that day at Butler, and yet she was.
And Who's Who's responsible for that? Is Sean Karran responsible
for that? Is the DEI hiring policies responsible for that?
We are going to find out. Yeah, it's going to
be We'll see. I have to wait see, but it's
certainly Ian's better than what the leadership was like just
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days ago with acting acting director Ron Row.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Absolutely, and that's my approach to it's wait and see.
I'm willing to give Sean kerr In a chance. Like
you said, and like Dan Bongino has said, there's been
mixed reaction to it. He can prove us wrong and
he certainly has started on the right foot with the
reorganization that you have described and reported on. Susan Crabtree.
Our guests be sure to follow her on acts by
that same handle at Susan Crabtree. Susan want to give
you a chance to go over with us. Perhaps the
(13:38):
most well timed book ever written, and that's Yours Fool's Gold,
the radicals, con artists, and traders who killed the California
dream and now threaten us all now. A hardcover edition
is due for release on March eleventh. That's coming about
a month and a half from right now. But as
I mentioned, the timing of this, you could not have known,
you know, God forbid these California wildfires happened, but they did.
(14:02):
What went into the decision to write this book? And
how kind of spooked are you by the timing of
this with everything that's happening in California right now?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, I would have preferred to have the book out
before Kalamala Harris was chosen as president, because we spent
a lot of time about on her In the book.
We also spent a lot of time on Gavin Newsom
and his policies on crime and homelessness, and also wildfire issues.
I have a whole chapter dedicated to wildfires. It's called
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Up and smoke in the book and what is behind
these things? Because I witnessed them when I left Washington
DCM moved back to California in twenty seventeen, and we
had endless seasons of what we had, one wildfire season
after another. It was like it was an inevitable and
you had these towns up in northern California completely wiped
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out and they were not the high its economic towns
like the Pacific Palisades. So I don't know what I said,
why are we tolerating this? People were eighty five people
in Palisades were burned alive. I mean, why in the world.
It's like a third world country here. Why are we tolerating?
(15:19):
Isn't this but just every season it just kept coming
and coming in. You know, the California says that it's
climate change is causing these fires, and I beg to differ.
And that makes me actually angry when people say that,
because these file fires can mean we didn't have these
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growing up in California, not to this extent. We had some,
but not to this extent. And there's the policies of
environmental policies extreme combined with the utilities not maintaining their
equipment while hiking rates on customers across the straight and
then they poor political money to Democratic leaders all of
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the state. Kevin Newsom himself has taken more than seven
hundred thousand dollars and his wife for her documentary filmmaking
from Pacific as an Electric and they are responsible for
at least fifteen hundred wildfires, including the deadliest one, the
one I killed eighty five people up in northern California
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in twenty eighteen. It is just something that I am
extremely I've been extremely disconcerned about for years, and I
see now it all playing out in Los Angeles and
all of a sudden, now we're going to do something
about it because it's hitting a very affluent area. But
it's past time for these policies to be jettisoned reevaluated.
(16:53):
And I just hope that fits California Angelina's wake up
because they had a good choice in Riccruso managed to
see because his small in Pacific Palisades is one of
the only things that survived because he hired private firefighters.
But whoever talks about climate change and they say they
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care about climate change. The fires from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty, they wiped out any carbon gains that the
state made by their ev mandates and other entiropolicies over
the last two decades. So if you care about if
you supposedly care about climate change, then you would care
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about solving these preventing these wildfires. And they did not
do anything. In fact, the policies that the Democratic politicians
imposes on the whole state contributed, if not caused, some
of these wildfires.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You can pre order it on Amazon. It'll be available
hardcover March eleventh. Fool's Gold The Radicals, con artists, and
traders who killed the California Dream and now threaten us
all an investigation that shows how the most ambitious figures
in the Democratic Party want to transform the rest of
America into the progressive dystopia that is California. It is
(18:10):
written by Susan Crabtree, also authored by Jed mcfatter, and
you can find it on Amazon your favorite bookstore. Coming
up March eleventh. I'm sure Susan will talk between now
and then more about this book. We thank you so
much for joining us today and appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I appreciate you and your interest.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Thanks so much for having me all right, Susan Crabtree
joining us their real clear politics is where you can
find her and follow her on x at Susan Crabtree
your text at five seven seven three nine you reaction
to anything that you heard. Sean Current at the iconic
photo of President Trump raising his fist American flag in
the background, he had just been shot, the blood coming
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down his ear. The gentleman in sunglasses looking directly into
the camera of that iconic shot, that is Sean Current,
and I wanted to talk to Susan and we've got
some great information there about what it means for Sean
Agent Current to be leading the Secret Service, and he's
made some sweeping changes within the agency. I think that's
a good start. I'm willing to give him a chance.
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I know Dan Bongino has his reservations. There are some
concerns that he doesn't maybe have the alpha type personality
you'd want in that position. But Donald Trump trusts him
and he picked Sean for a reason, and they're very
personal and it's a very personal position to have that
kind of loyalty. So we'll see where it goes from here.
Based Fetterman coming up next on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Can we I'm I'm going to vote on the Lincoln Bill,
and I was a co sponsor with that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He just slips in there at the end. I was
co sponsor to the Lincoln Riley Act, and I'm going
to go vote on that right now. John Fetterman more gold.
This guy is a constant source of it. We're glad
to bring it to you on Ryan Shuling Live. He
is far and away my favorite Democrat in Congress. And
I know that sounds like a backhanded compliment, and it is.
(20:06):
But John Fetterman is untainted and I believe by any
kind of special interest or a darkened influence or hand
that might be behind the scenes, otherwise influencing controlling a
lot of those in Washington, including those who would pretend
or poortend to be on the right side of the
(20:27):
political spectrum Isle Republicans, et cetera. There's a lot of
corruption in Washington and it goes both directions. We're not
going to be naive here. But John Fetterman, it really
seems like he just says what he thinks, means what
he says. And I would not be surprised if Senator
Fetterman won his bid for reelection by at least ten
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points in Pennsylvania. He has that broad based, common sense
appeal to those that are in the middle, and there
aren't many states that are as close to right in
the middle politically overall than Pennsylvania. It might be the
kind of turning point state, the swing state. And what
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he has done in his time in office, I don't
know that he's missed a beat. I was disappointed that
he didn't support Pete hag Seth, but don't be surprised
if he comes around on maybe several of these other
nominees and says, hey, president Trump won, to the winner,
go the spoils. This is the line we were constantly
fed by the likes of Senator John McCain and Senator
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Lindsay Graham and those in the mishmash of the muddled middle.
And I don't think that they're wrong. I believe that
by and large President Obama and even President Biden, if
they wanted to ruin the country and have horrible appointees
like Alejandro Mayorcis or Anthony Blincoln, then you know, why
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should I get in their way. That's kind of where
I'm coming from on a lot of this and Unfortunately
we were right. We were right on almost every single
member of the Biden I can't think of one that
overperformed expectations. They were all disasters. Lloyd Austin as Secretary
of Defense. Jennifer Granholm a Secretary of Energy. She had
no experience in the industry, none.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
She was a.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Carpet bagger governor of my home state of Michigan. She's Canadian.
She had no working knowledge of energy. Whatsoever was a
simple favor that was returned to her for her support
in Biden's campaign. It was retail politics, but based on
nothing regarding her own set of experiences or what she
brought to the table. Pete Buddha Jetge is Transportation Secretary,
(22:34):
a disaster, no experience. In his introductory press conference, he
talked about how much he loved planes and trains, Wealth Law.
If he loved automobiles, then he's naming one of my
favorite movies. But that doesn't make him qualified to be
Secretary of Transportation. Now, this carpet bagger himself is trying
to invade Michigan and run it would appear, according to
(22:57):
reports for Senate as Gary pa announced today that he
will not run for reelection Gary Peters extensively has been
somewhat of a moderate Democrat in the Senate. And I
don't have anything personal against Gary Peters other than he's
wrong on almost everything. But footage Edge can't represent Indiana,
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it's too red. Can't represent South Ben. He ruined it
and did a horrible job as Secretary of Transportation, took
paternity to leave for what three months. Nobody knew where
he was, Nobody cared until something came up, and then
he wasn't there to do anything about it. John Fetterman,
though he's compiling a lot of these based Fetterman segments
(23:39):
and will be getting to another one at least one
other one today. I've got three here. That was just
one that you heard. This is not condensed into such
a segment. But John Fetterman also appeared on the View
and he was making their head spin. They didn't know
how to take him because they can't really attack him.
He's one of their own, or at least that's what
they would hope to believe, and yet he's not, because
(23:59):
he's going to calm like he sees them, and as
he said in this very appearance on the View yesterday,
he's going to call balls and strikes. He's representing the
people of Pennsylvania, and the people of Pennsylvania by and
large are moderate, They're purple, they're in the middle, they're
not extreme on either side. And he is playing to
his base, but also playing to the masses in the
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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I'm on record criticizing going after Hunter Biden, and I
also agreed that the trial in this city in New
York was politically motivated. That wouldn't otherwise have been prosecuted
if it was someone else. And I've been very front
and center in pardons. You know, I shared that process
in Pennsylvania. You know, I was all about delivering second chances,
(24:45):
and I'm very proud of that. And I think that's
really the cornerstone of criminal justice reform is if you
are following the rules and you've paid your debt, I
do believe you do to believe there needs to be
a path for redemption and this process. You know, whether
Joe Biden or whether they're President Trump, you know, I
don't agree with many of those parts, especially on the
(25:05):
J six ones, and I've called that out. I've been
on record saying that that's just not true. If you
are going to abuse the process. You know, somebody that's
been very committed as part of that has made that
part of my career.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think it's sad.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Because it's been politicized, and I think, if anything, that
might have set some things back because people assume, now,
you know, depending on what teams in office, you know,
those are the people that get some.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Redemption valid points. That's fair. I don't agree with everything
that John Fetterman said, but these are his honest opinions,
and at least they're out there for public consumption, and
you can take them or you can leave them. You
can agree with them or you can disagree with them.
But Senator Fetterman is willing to have those conversations, and
he's willing to say that Donald Trump was politically targeted
(25:52):
by a weaponized Department of Justice from President Biden. And
good for him for saying. So we need a lot
more people like John Fetterman in Washington who are not
going to be cow towing to special interests and the
powers that be. And that's not him, and I appreciate that.
I respect him for it, and I wouldn't be surprised
(26:14):
to bring full circle of this conversation. We have hearings
this week for Cash Patel, RFK Junior, Telsea Gabbert. Those
are three big ones. They're controversial ones just because they're
driving the left nuts. And I love it because two
of them were of the left not that long ago.
And in fact, Cash Pattel, I believe, I'm not mistaken
back in twenty sixteen, originally was working for Hillary Clinton.
(26:37):
But certainly RFK Junior, I mean a legacy of family
in the Democratic Party. Tulsa Gabbert was a very staunch
Democrat out of Hawaii that doesn't even elect Republicans ever,
and yet she has abandoned the Democratic Party that left
her first. And you could say the same about RFK Junior.
And I'll be very curious to see where a lot
of these senators come down on those votes, whether or
(27:00):
not Fetterman might join the ranks of the majority of Republicans.
And let's say, you know, they peel off Lisa Murkowski
and Susan Collins again or Cocaine Mitch. Would Fetterman, you know,
being the honest broker that I believe he is, vote
for these nominees if he feels, hey, they're qualified. I
might not agree with them, but this is President Trump's
choice and he gets to select the people that work
(27:21):
in his cabinet. We are in a role as the
Senate to advise and consent, and I'm going to vote yes.
He might be one of the only Democrats that does
that in a lot of these cases, but don't be
surprised if he might be the determining factor in one
of these votes. We'll take a break when we come back.
Caroline Levitt, it was her first day on the job
in full as the press secretary for the Trump administration
(27:45):
after the forty seventh president was inaugurated, and she handled
the press with a plum. We'll have some of those
highlights coming your way after this time out rounding out
our number one still to come, We're going to break
down whether or not Colorado is the same squary state.
Democrats are running from that word. I described this before,
and you might have heard it here first. They are
(28:06):
running from the word sanctuary, the same way that long
ago they ran away from the word liberal and instead
embrace the word progressive, or leaving the term global warming
and instead embracing climate change. It's always a word game
that turns into a shell game, and they're trying to
(28:27):
distract you, and they're trying to deceive you with who
they are, what they represent, and what their policies really mean.
They are on the run when it comes to illegal
immigration in this country. They know it, so they're trying
to change and shape the language around it. It's Jared Polis,
It's Mike Johnston, It's Brandon Johnson, Chicago mayor just wait
(28:50):
till you hear that clip. And Representative Jeff Crank, fifth
Congressional District, Colorado Springs. He'll be joining us in our
second ear to push back on Jared Poulus trying to
pull this Jedi mind trick on all of us home.
We're not a sanctuary state. We never have been, and
we never will be, except that we are Ryan Schuling.
Life continues after this.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
The drones that were flying over New Jersey and large
numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for
research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were
also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals that enjoy flying jones
in meantime. In time, it got worse due to curiosity.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
This was not the enemy.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
A statement from the President of the United States to
start this briefing with some news.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And a good way to start things. From the new
kid in town by the Eagles there. Good job by
Zach Seekers behind the scenes pulling that one out. Caroline
Lovett reading a statement from President Trump explaining what the
drones over New Jersey were and that they were authorized
by the FAA for research and recreation. Why couldn't the
(30:06):
Biden administration have told us this? It's like one of
those things. You know, certain people, they're pathological liars, and
they lie about the stupidest things, or they leave out
the most convenient truths which might actually do them a favor.
But they're so addicted to lying and so addicted to
the lie that they are, that they represent that they're
(30:27):
committed to the lie in all cases, even when the
truth would serve them better. And it truly is some
form of psychosis. I can't explain it. There's a reporter
who asks this question. I want to play just the
question for you, and then I'll give the answer that
Caroline delivered, a question that we've asked you. Your predecessors
(30:51):
of both parties in this job.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
When you're up here in this breaking room as speaking
to the American public view yourself and your role as
speaking on advocating on behalf of the president, of providing
the unvarnished truth, that is, you know, not to lie,
not to off escape to the American paper.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I don't know who this reporter is and I don't
know his motivation, so I don't want to prejudge him
on that basis. However, how much of the unvarnished truth,
as a percentage just prote out there a number. I'm
asking you for your opinion, how much of the unvarnished
truth that we get from either Jensaki or KJP. I
(31:26):
would argue none. There was always a varnish in a
spinning there's going to be from the Press Secretary's podium.
I get that. But Caroline Lovett delivered this answer and
deconstructed the mainstream media the fake news in under a minute.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I commit to telling the truth from this podium every
single day. I commit to speaking on behalf of the
president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That is my job.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
And I will say it's very easy to speak truth
from this podium when you have a president who is
implementing policies that are wildly popular with the American people
and that's exact exactly what this administration is doing. It's
correcting the lies and the wrongs of the past four years,
many of the lies that have been told to your
faces in this very briefing room.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I will not do that.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
But since you brought up truth seek, I would like
to point out, while I vow to provide the truth
from this podium, we ask that all of you in
this room hold yourselves to that same standard.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
We know for a fact there have been lies.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
That have been pushed by many legacy media outlets in
this country about this president, about his family, and we
will not accept that. We will call you out when
we feel that your reporting is wrong or there is
misinformation about this White House. So yes, I will hold
myself to the truth, and I expect everyone in this
room to do the same.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Caroline love It, Wow, home run right there. She's twenty
seven years old, youngest ever to occupy this position, and
she is a rising star. All of that was extemporaneous,
by the way, no notes, no binder, no prescripted whatever.
That was completely from the heart and off the top
of her head. And that's how you communicate effectively. You
(33:04):
can't do it by reading a script or carrying around
a binder like KJP, who was a disaster in that position.
Caroline Lovett is going to do the president just well
and just fine in that role. Patty says the drones
were the Biden administration wanted to keep the citizens in
fear easier to control. Patty. That's a great point. Fear
is a powerful motivator and we found that out during COVID.
(33:28):
Remember this from Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer. Pretty much,
any person's removed from the Biden regime have to be
looked at as positives. Well, and I would say there
has to be sweeping changes. I don't know how much
can be done and you still maintain the integrity, and
I mean like the physical integrity to a support structure
(33:49):
within a government agency and have it continue to function
and exist. It might take some draconian cuts of jobs
across the board, which would also save us money, by
the way, So I'm keeping an eye on that the
budget part of this. But look at what Elon Musk
did with Twitter, turning it into X. Look at all
the firings, the mass firings he had. They're people that
(34:11):
were just showing up these gen ZS no offense Act,
but certain percentages of them that thought they could just
show up, get a well paying job, and after COVID
maybe not even have to go into the office anymore,
not even have to literally show up, mail it in,
have a title, not really do anything. And the evaluation
that Elon Musk had of X has turned it into
(34:31):
a leaner, meaner, cleaner information machine. It is better with
fewer employees, fewer chefs in the kitchen. And I think
that could be true of many organizations and agencies across
the board in bureaucratic Washington, whether it's NIH, CDC, the FBI,
the CIA, you go on down the list, those should
(34:53):
be doing its shob and now Avek Ramaswami departing Jesse
Waters had asked him about that. We'll get to the
had An hour number two along with more of your
texts at five seven, seven, three nine. We're really going
to dig down on Colorado Democrats trying to run and
hide far and fast from the term sanctuary, sanctuary cities,
sanctuary state. But we've got the receipts and we'll have
(35:16):
them for it when we come back
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