October 16, 2025 • 39 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Ryan Schuiling is joined by both Ted Cruz and Gabe Evans to talk about Day 16 of the government shutdown.
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Speaker 14 (06:35):
There are more than two hundred left wing groups behind
this these No Kings rallies this weekend. They deliberately are
blind to what each of the others are doing. That's
part of how they avoid accountability. RICO is designed for
precisely that sort of criminal enterprise. And so I believe
the Senate we ought to take up and vote on
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and pass our stop Funders legislation. And I've urged both
Pam Bondi at DOJ and Cash Mattel at FBI follow
the money and prosecute those who are writing checks funding
acts of violence, political violence, or otherwise across the country.
Speaker 12 (07:12):
And Senator Ted Cruz joins your host Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Senator, thank you for your time, Ryan, good to be
with you.
Speaker 15 (07:19):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Now.
Speaker 12 (07:20):
The timing of these no Kings rallies throughout the country
is humorous to me in the wake of what President
Trump just accomplished in the Middle East. Do you see
that irony as well? And what are the implying that
Donald Trump is a king?
Speaker 14 (07:34):
Well, Unfortunately, the left in today's Democrat Party has devolved
into just really a party of anger and hate for
Donald Trump. I mean, that's the one unifying principle. It's
the reason we have a government shut down right now,
is they're all trying to demonstrate to the radical left
how much they hate Donald J. Trump, and these protests
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are are organized. And you know the point you just
played that clip from last night, the point that I
was making. These protests are not organic, They're not just
springing up magically. There is real money behind these and
this has been a pattern that has extended for a
number of years.
Speaker 15 (08:12):
You go back to the Antifa.
Speaker 14 (08:14):
And the Black Lives Matter riots all across the country,
where we saw American cities burning, we saw police cars
being firebomb we saw people being murdered. You go back
to the anti Semitic riots on college campuses, You go
back to the pro open borders and pro illegal immigration
riots in Los Angeles and other cities. All of those
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were funded. I'm not the only person who noticed on
the anti Semitic college campus protests that the tents all matched,
that there's clearly money, significant money that is flowing. And
the same is true for these these so called No
Kings rallies. That you have the George Soros networks and
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you have others that.
Speaker 15 (09:00):
Are funding this.
Speaker 14 (09:01):
And I believe the way to stop this organized left
wing violence it is not just prosecute the individual to
commit the violence, but go after and prosecute the people
writing the checks and paying for what is in effect
domestic terrorism. If you're threatening violence and doing so for
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a political agenda, that is unacceptable, and if you're paying
people to do that, that is a criminal act.
Speaker 12 (09:30):
One of those known King's rallies coming here to Denver
this Saturday, and Senator Cruz implying that there might be
RICO predicates in the form of the funding for those
so called rallies that I agree with the Senator. They
are far from organic and just spontaneous. Senator Ted Cruz
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also a part of that, and we want to make
sure that you are aware that you can subscribe, download
and listen to that podcast, Senator Cruz. Last night on CNN,
Caitlin Collins was the moderator. Senator Bernie Sanders and AOC
a big part of that. Senator Sanders didn't know what
he was in for with this questioner though.
Speaker 16 (10:12):
How do you think this shutdown reflects on Chuck Schumer's leadership?
Speaker 17 (10:16):
Well, I think it reflects more on Mike Johnson's leadership
and President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This is a.
Speaker 17 (10:24):
Leadership which said it's okay to give a trip. Well,
how do you feel you tell me, I think it's
a good idea to give a trillion dollars in tax
breaks to the richest people in the country and then
make massive cots the healthcare for working class people.
Speaker 16 (10:37):
I think Chuck Schumer has voted for continuing resolutions thirteen
times in the last four years, and he has the
opportunity to vote for one again, but he's refusing to
come to the DABA.
Speaker 12 (10:45):
I take a look, Oh, talk about your all time backfires.
Senator Schumer is trying to pin this shutdown on the
Republican Senator Cruz. But I don't know that that narrative
is playing in the area.
Speaker 15 (10:56):
No, it is not, and it's not because it's false.
Speaker 14 (11:00):
And the questioner who was questioning Bernie last night is
exactly right.
Speaker 15 (11:04):
This is the Schumer shutdown. We are right now on day.
Speaker 14 (11:08):
Sixteen of the Schumer shutdown, and the reason we have
the shutdown is really twofold number one. The Democrats have
shut the government down because they want to try to
force free, taxpayer funded healthcare for illegal aliens, and in particular,
in the one big, beautiful bill that we pass this
summer that President Trump signed on the fourth of July,
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we explicitly put a prohibition on Medicaid funds going to
illegal immigrants. The Democrats are insisting they will not reopen
the government unless we repeal that prohibition on funding illegal immigrants.
And so that is not a position the American people support.
The American people don't want to give free health care
to illegals, but the extremes and the Democrat Party do.
Speaker 15 (11:54):
But I'll tell you Ryan secondly, and.
Speaker 14 (11:56):
What this shutdown is about even more than that, is
Schumer is facing a political crisis, which is back in
March when we had the last expiration of government funding,
the Democrats actually worked in a bipartisan manner with Republicans
and we kept the government open, and Schumer almost lost
his job. The radical left got furious with him, and
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Chuck Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and he
sees AOC breathing down his neck, getting ready to primary him.
And the reason the government shut down today is Schumer
is trying to prove to the crazy radicals that he
hates Donald Trump as much as they do. And so
the question was exactly right when Joe Biden was president,
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thirteen different times, we passed a clean continuing resolution that
meant Republicans cooperated with Democrats to keep the government open.
Speaker 15 (12:50):
Today, the House is passed.
Speaker 14 (12:52):
A clean cr We could do it the fourteenth time,
but nope. Chuck Schumer has to prove to all the
crazies in the No King's rally that that he just
he's motivating, motivated by just as much hate for Trump
as they are. And it really is a shame that
you're seeing federal workers held hostage and the US government
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held hostage for what is what is an empty political
stunt to appeal to the extreme left of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 12 (13:21):
Senator Ted Cruz our guest, I want to follow up
on what you just said, Senator, with this other excerpt
from that town hall on CNN last night. I don't
think this played very well for AOC, and Senator Sanders
goes off on a tangent when they are asked if
the plan is to primary Chuck Schumer and if AOC
will be the one to do it.
Speaker 18 (13:40):
But are you saying that Senator Schumer should not be
worried about a primary challenge from you?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
No, let me jump in on.
Speaker 18 (13:47):
This talking about that is falling apart. We've got a
house housing crisis, a healthcare crisis, an education crisis, mass
of the income and wealth, inequality, a growth campaign finances.
Speaker 17 (14:04):
And the media is the boy you could run.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Nobody cares, many.
Speaker 10 (14:08):
Cares, the health speaker and President Trump and the Vice
president saying.
Speaker 18 (14:11):
It, right, pardon of course they're saying it to deflect attention.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Away from the real issue, exactly.
Speaker 18 (14:16):
And you will tell you what the real issue is
at CFCNN talks about it. We're living in the richest
country in the history of the world, right, all right,
You tell me why we're the only nation not the
guarantee healthcare old people, the only nation not the guarantee
paid family and medically. Why we have a seven dollars
and twenty five cent an hour minimum wage, Why we
have eight hundred thousand people sleeping out on the street,
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Why we have a president who denies the reality of
climate change.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why we have.
Speaker 18 (14:44):
Holagoqics on top who have more and more power every day.
Let's talk about that issue, not her own political future.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
She'll decide that.
Speaker 12 (14:52):
Senator Cruz, what does it say to you that they
reacted so violently to that question as to whether Chuck
Schumer's leadership.
Speaker 14 (14:58):
Is to be challenged, because they know the answer is yes,
that for all intents and purposes, AOC is acting as
the Democrat minority leader in the Senate, that she is
leading Chuck Schumer around like she has a ring through
his nose, and wherever she wants to go, he happily follows.
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I will say I've predicted this before. I actually think
Chuck Schumer will be the inaugural member of the AOC
for President team, and he's going to try to convince
her Alexandre, You're really far too important to think about
something as lowly as Senate.
Speaker 15 (15:35):
You belong in the Oval office.
Speaker 14 (15:37):
I think that's Schumer's plan. He's going to try to
convince her of that. But listen, Bernie and AOC and
the entire Democrat Party, they are radical and they are extreme.
I've done three different town hall debates with Bernie Sanders
on CNN, and in fact, like he was asking why
don't we have socialized healthcare? Well, the answer is because
it doesn't work at every place that it does implement it.
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You have scare and you have rationing, you have the
federal government telling you you can't get the health care
you want. And I'll tell you a response that I've
given Bernie when he asked that question, is, is you know, Ryan,
there is zero impediment to any state in the Union
setting up socialized healthcare. Under the Constitution, the states can
do that. Bernie's home state of Vermont could set up
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socialized health care. California, which has a Democrat governor and
a super majority Democrat legislature.
Speaker 15 (16:27):
Could pass socialized health care. Today, your state of.
Speaker 14 (16:31):
Colorado, you got a Democrat governor, they could pass socialized
health care.
Speaker 15 (16:35):
You should ask yourself.
Speaker 14 (16:36):
Why do none of these Democrats put socialized health care.
Speaker 15 (16:40):
In their states?
Speaker 14 (16:41):
And the answer California looked at it and they realized
it would bankrupt us. The taxes would be so high
that you would have all the employers flee. And it
doesn't work. And so what they want to do is
they want to force it on the whole country.
Speaker 15 (16:55):
So you can't flee.
Speaker 14 (16:56):
So you can't get away unless you're willing to leave America.
You can't escape. My answer to Bernie is implemented in Vermont.
And let's see if people flood to the socialist utopia
that you have up on the northern tip of the US,
and they haven't done it, and they're not going.
Speaker 15 (17:11):
To do it.
Speaker 14 (17:12):
Because when I asked Bernie in these town halls, how
come every place you put socialized healthcare you get long
waiting lines and you get people denied. No you can't
have hip surgery. No you can't have cataract surgery. You've
got an eighteen month waiting list to get the surgery
you need to.
Speaker 15 (17:30):
Why does that happen?
Speaker 14 (17:32):
And his answer, like like all good communists, he says, well,
it's never been implemented, right, but we would.
Speaker 15 (17:37):
Do it differently.
Speaker 14 (17:38):
So every place on Earth it's been implemented, it fails.
But he claims in theory somehow that if he's in
charge of your healthcare, he would magically handle it. Okay,
you know what, I'll stick with free enterprise. It works
a heck of a lot better.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Senator Ted Cruz, our guest one final point, Senator Cruz,
this interchange between you and Tucker Carlson aged very well
for you, you not so well for him. In the
wake of the Trump peace accord between Israel and Hamas, Okay,
what's the ethnic mix of Ron?
Speaker 19 (18:09):
They are Persians, were predominantly Shia. Okay, you don't know
anything about Iran. So okay, I am the Tucker Carlson
this bird on Iran. You're a senator who's calling one's
the one who about the country.
Speaker 14 (18:24):
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 17 (18:29):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 19 (18:29):
Who can't figure out to say, General Solamony? And you
said they're trying to murder Trump? Yes, because you're not
calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. If he
really believe bearing out military strikes today?
Speaker 12 (18:41):
Who said Israel was right with our help, Senator, that
was in advance of the strikes against the nuclear sites
within Iran that many are arguing, including myself or paramount
this deal getting done through a show of force.
Speaker 14 (18:54):
Your response unquestionably correct. The single most important national security
decision that President Trump has made in his second term
was the decision to launch the bombing strikes strikes on
the nuclear facilities in Iran. It was an incredible success.
We had b two bombers fly halfway around the world
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deliver bunker busting bombs to take out three nuclear facilities,
including the ford Ol facility that's literally built in the
in the bottom of a mountain to develop nuclear weapons.
And understand, Iran was working to develop nuclear weapons because
I believe they.
Speaker 15 (19:34):
Intended to use them.
Speaker 14 (19:35):
When the Iatola chance death to America and death to Israel,
I believe him. And so President Trump is a strong
commander in chief. That bombing strike was incredibly effective. And
you know you played that Tucker Carlson exchange. I got
to say. Tucker publicly said he tried very hard to
convince President Trump not to bomb the nuclear weapons facilities
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in Iran. And Tucker predicted, he said, if we bomb
those facilities, the result will be World War three. He
said thousands of Americans will die, and he said Iran
will beat US. Iran will win World War three and
beat the United States of America. Now, Ryan, those predictions
were laughably absurdly wrong. Instead, what happened is we utterly
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destroyed their nuclear weapons facility and that demonstration of strength. Look,
Iran is the chief patron of Hamas and Hesbela. More
than ninety percent of the funds for Hamas and Hesbela
come from Iran. And when Iran lost that war, it
broke the spirit and broke the back of Hamas. And
it's why we have the historic piece accord in Israel
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and in Gaza right now, because we have a strong
commander in chief and Donald Trump. And so my simple
message on that is is Donald Trump was right and
Tucker Carlson was wrong.
Speaker 12 (20:55):
Senator Ted Cruz our guest. Now he is a primary
sponsor to keep AM radio in cars. This is a
pivotal moment for us here at iHeart and of course
you can catch his daily podcast, The Verdict with Ted
Cruz right on the iHeartRadio app along with Ben Ferguson.
But a final question on a lighter note, Senator, they
are shutting down the MTV music channels in the UK,
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and it's only a matter of time before it happens
here in the United States. Your all time favorite music
video on MTV is.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Oh, I'd have to say Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I was.
Speaker 14 (21:28):
A teenager then, it's very funny. My press secretary is
looking at me completely confused. I think she wasn't alive
when Thriller came out. But you know, when suddenly everyone
started dancing as zombies, that was a fun time in
teenage years.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Making News right here.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
iHeart denverse Senator Ted Cruz joining us here today, Senator,
so grateful for your time. Thank you so much, and
continue the good work there on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 15 (21:53):
Thank care, God bless Senator.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Ted Cruz your reaction five seven seven three nine. Now
why I took that off ramp WITHMTV. I was filling in,
as I mentioned for Ross Kaminski over there on KOA,
our sister station, the Blowtorch, and I came across this
story that really bummed me out and for a lot
of us Gen xers and older MTV was a way
of life in the eighties. It launched in nineteen eighty
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one with the Buggles and Video Killed the Radio Star
and it was announced in October tenth, just within the
last week by BBC News not sure which BBC and
MTV will be shutting down several of its music channels
by the end of the year, and this threw fans
online into a tizzy. According to Hello Magazine, inspiring the
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Day the music died think pieces at the Ready, But
is it as big as it seems? The follow up
to the article now and I'm just reading this for
the first time along with all of you, and it
effects MTV Music, MTV Eighties, MTV Nineties, Club, MTV and
MTV Live. They will all stop broadcasting in the UK
and Ireland, Although there has been no official statement from
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MTV or parent company Paramount on the matter, all of
these channels will stop airing after nearly forty years on television,
ending the music portion of the broadcast. They're going to
continue with, you know, the reality crap, but all of
this will go down by New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Of this year.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
Now that got me thinking what I just read there.
So if you are like me and you have cut
the cord, so you no longer have satellite access through
Direct TV or Dish network, or you are no longer
a subscriber to cable TV like Comcast, I go strictly
on the apps.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is that how you operate, Zach? I got to imagine
you might be on that.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Same page, same boat. Yeah, okay, So you know I
have a smart TV. You download all the apps, you
subscribe the ones you want, you order a la carte.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's like a menu. And so I am a subscriber
to Paramount Plus. I like it.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
I like Tulsa King, I like a lot of their
offerings from Taylor Sheridan, and I have to imagine that
they're there could be an option for MTV to continue
airing something along those lines of the music offerings on
that platform on paramount. So I'm curious as to that,
and if you have any other details along those lines.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Believe me, I want to find out about it.
Speaker 12 (24:16):
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shows today. Fortunately I had the day off and was
able to catch you on both stations. Regarding Senator Cruz
and Senator Sanders. Isn't the fact that additional subsidies are
needed for those on Obamacare point to fact that Obamacare
is failing? Wasn't it the Affordable Care Act? It was
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called that it is now colloquially been referred to as Obamacare.
They ram rotted it through down strictly partisan lines when
the Democrats had control of both Houses of Congress and
the presidency. It took effect in twenty ten. I thought
we were despined from failure from the beginning that has
borne out. It is collapsing under the weight of itself
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and the expense and another program that's doing that pertains
to two proposals that are on your ballot coming up
here in November proposals l L and m M. I'll
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lunch program. Free lunches for the kids. Won't anybody think
of the children. But there's some fine print there and
I've got some thoughts and we come back after this
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on Ryan Shulding Live.
Speaker 16 (25:26):
How do you think they shut down reflects on Chuck
Schumer's leadership?
Speaker 17 (25:31):
Well, I think it reflects more on Mike Johnson's leadership
and President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
This is a.
Speaker 17 (25:38):
Leadership which said it's okay to give a trip.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, how do you feel you tell me.
Speaker 17 (25:43):
I think it's a good idea to give a trillion
dollars and talx breaks to the richest people in the
country and then make massive cuts to healthcare for working
class people.
Speaker 16 (25:51):
I think Chuck human has voted for continuing Resolutions thirteen
times in the last four years, and he has the
opportunity to vote for one again, but he's refusing to
come to the day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Look.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Look, Senator Bernie Sanders getting owned right there by a
questioner at a CNN town hall moderated by Caitlin Collins.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And oh, by the way, AOC was in.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
Attendance with Bernie as well. It was a comedy of airs.
We spoke with Senator Ted Cruz about it. Let's talk
to Representative Gabe Evans, who is right in the thick
of it as well, representing Colorado's eighth congressional district. He
joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live. Gabe, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 20 (26:27):
As always, it's always good to be hon with you.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
When you hear Bernie Sanders characterizing, you know, his typical
talking points, what is your reaction? And this is the
Democrat line right now, Chuck Schumer and others that they're
keeping healthcare away from those who need it in the
United States.
Speaker 20 (26:47):
You know, I roll my eyes because it's a blatant
smoke screen to try to cover up failed Democrat policies.
You know, I'll give you two thoughts here. First, when
somebody tells you who they are, you believe them. You
know my background. I spent twelve years in the army,
another ten years as a cop. Part of the reason
I'm in Congress right now is because the Democrats campaigned
for years on defunding the police and opening the borders
(27:10):
and giving taxpayer money to illegal immigrants. Guess what they're
doing all of that stuff right now, just via a
different mechanism. In the shutdown DEA that was taken down
Trendy at Agua, the violent Venezuelan prison gang that was
taken over apartment complexes in Aurora. DEA's not getting paid
right now. Border Patrol's not getting paid right now. We've
got the third busiest airport in the country here in Denver.
(27:31):
Our air traffic controllers aren't getting paid. And what did
Chuck Schumer say about that? He said, Oh, every day
gets better for us because he's just listening to his
radical base that wants to give tax payer money to
illegal immigrants for health care. And that ties to the
second thing that you asked. Republicans have made the largest
(27:51):
investment in rural health care in American history this year,
a fifty billion dollar program specifically for rural healthcare. We've
put two hundred billion more dollars into Medicaid this year,
two hundred and fifty billion more dollars using this year
as a baseline going into healthcare. The only guardrail we've
put around it is it has to go to Americans.
(28:14):
It cannot go to illegal immigrants. And Chuck Schumer and
Hakem Jeffries can't stand that. On page fifty seven of
their counter proposal to open the government, they have proposed
to repeal those protections, repeal fifty billion dollars for real
health care, repeal two hundred billion more dollars go into Medicaid,
and they want to go back to giving taxpayer money
(28:35):
to illegal immigrants.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Congressman Evans our guest and following up on that point,
you know, I kind of get.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It, Gabe, I know how politics is done.
Speaker 12 (28:44):
Chuck Schumer's got a save face with this far left
flank to try to stave off a primary challenge extensively
from Alexandria Casio Cortes. Both she and Bernie Sanders push
back pretty hard against that, but didn't deny it, didn't
say no. So I'm trying to figure this out, honestly,
trying to look at this left brain. I know you
do the same thing what Chuck Schumer, realistically, let's get
(29:05):
real here, expects there to be in terms of a
compromise or an off ramp along with Minority Leader a
Keem Jeffries, you, Ted Cruz, the Republicans, at least, I hope,
are not going to seed any ground on funding Medicaid
or any other taxpayer funded services for illegal aliens, which
are the very basis on which President Trump signed executive
(29:27):
orders along those lines.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a no go zone. It should be anyway.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
So what is the off ramp that saves face for
Schumer and keeps them in the Senate minority position and
in his very seat in the Senate.
Speaker 20 (29:40):
That is a great question, and I don't know that
Schumer and Jeffries even though what that off ramp is
right now, you know, they claim that they want more
subsidies to be continued for Obamacare on the ACA exchanges. However,
just recently, within the last forty eight hours, Schumer was offered, Okay,
(30:00):
you claim this is what you want, we'll bring it
to the floor of the Senate for a vote in
exchange for opening the government. He turned that down, said
it was a non starter. Jeffreys, the Democrat leader in
the House, very similar He was asked, would you support
a bipartisan one year extension for these subsidies that you
talk about all the time to open the government up,
(30:22):
and he said it was a non starter. So the
very things that they claim that they want, they don't
actually want. They've turned down opportunities to have conversations about
those things. It truly is a case of the far
left tail wagging the rest of the dog. With the
dog at this point being the Democrat Party, they don't
even know.
Speaker 15 (30:42):
What they want.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Congressman Gabe Evans joining us now. I know you're a
freshman Congressman Gabe, and you're doing your level best on
behalf of the citizens and residents of the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You're doing a fine job.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
Have you had any personal interactions, conversations, even in passing, informally,
formally whatever, with any of the following a Keem Jeffries himself,
Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, anyone else that you've had a
substantive conversation of any kind regarding the shutdown on or not.
Speaker 20 (31:13):
Nope, they tell you, They tell you till they're blue
in the face. They just want to talk about it.
But would you actually want to talk substance about it?
Not a lot of interest.
Speaker 12 (31:23):
Now, I want to go to one Democrat that I
think you should seek out a conversation with Gabe because
he might be the only same Democrat in an entire
body on Capitol Hill be it House or Senate, and
that's the Democrat question mark from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman, here
is his very base to take and we'll have it
again coming on the other side of this break.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 21 (31:43):
Well, it's like, that's why shutting the government is really
what the Democratic Party wants to do. And I follow country,
then party, and it's the wrong thing for the country
in a period of chaos. I refuse to vote to
shut our government down.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I absolutely would love to.
Speaker 21 (32:05):
I would love to have a conversation about extending the
tax credits for healthcare. Absolutely, but I would remind everybody too,
this was designed by the Democratic.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Party to expire at the end of the year. This
is not something taken.
Speaker 21 (32:19):
From by by the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's they were designed to expire.
Speaker 21 (32:24):
Now, let's have a conversation to extend it and not
shut our government down, and let's continue to He has.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Already agreed to that.
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Now, that was a part of the COVID subsidies that
were originated during the Biden administration. Gabe, and in good faith,
I think you, Speaker Johnson, Leader Foon, you've brought that
very same thing to the table, even though in a
Republican controlled Congress.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm sure you'd like to roll a lot of that back.
Speaker 20 (32:50):
Well, I mean betterman, you know, And to be fair,
he has He's been one of the few Democrats in
the Senate that has consistently voted for this clean cr
partisan writers or smoke filled backroom deals just continue to
fund the government at statusical levels. Fetterman has consistently voted
for that, you know. To be completely fair for him,
(33:11):
but I mean, he hit the nail on the head
when he said that these subsidies were designed by the
Democrats when Joe Biden was in the White House and
Democrats controlled the House and the Senate during COVID. They
were designed to expire this year. They're not expiring because
Trump or the Republicans are taking them away. They're expiring
because the Democrats made them expire. And again going back
(33:32):
to the previous talking point, the the Democrats are trying
to use this as a smoke screen to detract from
all of their other failed policies that are recurring right now.
And this is why we have a government shut down.
Because they're rudderless, they're directionless, they don't know what they want.
They just know that they're mad. And because they're mad.
(33:53):
They're shutting the government down, denying our law enforcement paychecks,
denying our air traffic controllers' paychecks. And this needs to stop.
We need to put America first.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
Final point here, Representative Gabe Evans our guest from the
eighth Congressional District, and it's one of the things I
wanted to make sure that we talked about during our
conversation here. Gabe, you know you are in a very
purple district that you won narrowly.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You're running for reelection. I know you're a target of
the Democrats.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
And conversely, you could say the same thing about Representative
Don Davis. He's in a swing district Democrat out of
North Carolina. But you came together on this piece of legislation,
a bill entitled Hiring Preferences for Veterans and Americans with
Disabilities Act. I know my home state Senator Alissa Slotkin,
Democrat purple state Michigan, is also involved.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
In this on the Senate side.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
But if you can kind of nuts and bolts sit
here for us for our listeners why it's important and
why you chose to.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Take this up now.
Speaker 20 (34:48):
Yeah, so again, you know there is there, truly is
a lot of bipartisan work that happens in Congress that
never really makes the big time media headlines because it's
not as exciting.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
To report on.
Speaker 20 (34:58):
Hey, people agree and are working together make life better
for everybody. So the bill that you mentioned, I've introduced
it in the House. I've got Don Davis, a Democrat
in the House who is my House co sponsor. It's
actually bipartisan and bicameral. We have Republican Senator Tim Sheehy
and Democrat Senator Alissa slot Tim who are sponsoring this
(35:18):
in the Senate. And it's a pretty simple bill. It's
a bill that's personal to me. Again, you know, I
spent twelve years in the Army, and the Army had
me all over. I've been stationed in Arizona, in Kentucky,
in Washington State, in Alabama, in Virginia, in the Middle East,
and so when you're moving around all the time, you
don't typically change your permanent residence. Your home of record
(35:41):
is what we call it in the military.
Speaker 15 (35:42):
When I was.
Speaker 20 (35:43):
Stationed down in Alabama, my home of record was still
here in Colorado, regardless of where the military stationed me.
But that can present problems if you have either the
military member themselves or their spouse who is trying to
volunteer or work as an election worker. And so one
of the things that this piece of legislation that I've
(36:04):
introduced does is it says that in hiring an election
worker the state or local jurisdiction, they can't deny somebody
that job just because they're a non resident, spouse or
military member.
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Representative Gabe Evans getting the good work done on behalf
of the people in the eighth Congressional District. I just
wish he was my congressman. I'm stuck with Jason Crow.
You follow the latest on X. Where can they follow
you there, Gabe?
Speaker 20 (36:33):
Yeah, So go visit me at Repevans on X or
visit the website Gabevans dot House dot gov.
Speaker 12 (36:40):
Always appreciate your time, keep up the good work, stand
your ground on this budget bill.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It'll get through the Democrats. O Cave. I think you
and I both know that well.
Speaker 20 (36:49):
We're going to keep fighting to put Americans first. And
when the Democrats talk about what's a non starter, I mean,
I can tell you the Republicans are pretty committed to
making sure that American tax payer money goes to America.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And such a shining star as a freshman congressman.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
He'll be on the bellet running for reelection, of course,
every two years, and then he'll be coming up in
twenty twenty six, and we always enjoy having him on.
We'll round it out with your tax five seven, seven,
three nine on this Thursday edition of Ryan Shulding Line.
Democrats are in a real pickle when it comes to
John Fetterman, because he's extremely popular in the purple state
(37:25):
of Pennsylvania. In fact, his popularity among Republicans is well
into positive territory, and it's popularity with Democrats. He's lower,
but it's still about fifty percent. They could try the
primarium with a more extreme typical leftist, you know, but
the Senate race in Pennsylvania, that would be a real
tricky thing, a real sticky wicket, and they might get
(37:47):
stuck with a Republican instead. They might have to do
what Republicans do in Maine was Susan Collins, and go
that's as good as we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I like John Fetterman.
Speaker 12 (37:56):
I like him a lot, and he's the only Democrat
I think we can possibly tolerate in terms of you know,
he's an honest broker and I really appreciate that about him.
To the text line, we go five seven to seven
three nine. Ryan's so impressed you had Cruise on. I'll
try to listen more during this time of day. Well,
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Speaker 12 (38:20):
And Die in nineteen eighty two back in eighty two,
Throw football over the mountains Uncle Rico style. Ryan, that's
a big time interview. Well done, Thank you very much.
We hope to have Senator Cruz on again. We love
having a representative Gabe Evans on and I am trying
to get the big fish in John Fetterman literally and figuratively.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
One more, I was bummed that in his.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
Last concert in Denver, Bob Seger didn't do Get out
of Denver.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I thought that would be the last song. Well he
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Speaker 12 (38:48):
GTFO I had ten for himself after that one, and
I don't blame him. It's a great song. Would have
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Speaker 2 (06:30):
Six point thirty KOW.
Speaker 14 (06:35):
There are more than two hundred left wing groups behind
this these No Kings rallies this weekend. They deliberately are
blind to what each of the others are doing. That's
part of how they avoid accountability. RICO is designed for
precisely that sort of criminal enterprise. And so I believe
the Senate we ought to take up and vote on
(06:56):
and pass our stop Funders legislation. And I've urged both
Pam Bondi at DOJ and Cash Mattel at FBI follow
the money and prosecute those who are writing checks funding
acts of violence, political violence, or otherwise across the country.
Speaker 12 (07:12):
And Senator Ted Cruz joins your host Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Senator, thank you for your time, Ryan, good to be
with you.
Speaker 15 (07:19):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Now.
Speaker 12 (07:20):
The timing of these no Kings rallies throughout the country
is humorous to me in the wake of what President
Trump just accomplished in the Middle East. Do you see
that irony as well? And what are the implying that
Donald Trump is a king?
Speaker 14 (07:34):
Well, Unfortunately, the left in today's Democrat Party has devolved
into just really a party of anger and hate for
Donald Trump. I mean, that's the one unifying principle. It's
the reason we have a government shut down right now,
is they're all trying to demonstrate to the radical left
how much they hate Donald J. Trump, and these protests
(07:55):
are are organized. And you know the point you just
played that clip from last night, the point that I
was making. These protests are not organic, They're not just
springing up magically. There is real money behind these and
this has been a pattern that has extended for a
number of years.
Speaker 15 (08:12):
You go back to the Antifa.
Speaker 14 (08:14):
And the Black Lives Matter riots all across the country,
where we saw American cities burning, we saw police cars
being firebomb we saw people being murdered. You go back
to the anti Semitic riots on college campuses, You go
back to the pro open borders and pro illegal immigration
riots in Los Angeles and other cities. All of those
(08:37):
were funded. I'm not the only person who noticed on
the anti Semitic college campus protests that the tents all matched,
that there's clearly money, significant money that is flowing. And
the same is true for these these so called No
Kings rallies. That you have the George Soros networks and
(08:58):
you have others that.
Speaker 15 (09:00):
Are funding this.
Speaker 14 (09:01):
And I believe the way to stop this organized left
wing violence it is not just prosecute the individual to
commit the violence, but go after and prosecute the people
writing the checks and paying for what is in effect
domestic terrorism. If you're threatening violence and doing so for
(09:23):
a political agenda, that is unacceptable, and if you're paying
people to do that, that is a criminal act.
Speaker 12 (09:30):
One of those known King's rallies coming here to Denver
this Saturday, and Senator Cruz implying that there might be
RICO predicates in the form of the funding for those
so called rallies that I agree with the Senator. They
are far from organic and just spontaneous. Senator Ted Cruz
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(09:52):
also a part of that, and we want to make
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and listen to that podcast, Senator Cruz. Last night on CNN,
Caitlin Collins was the moderator. Senator Bernie Sanders and AOC
a big part of that. Senator Sanders didn't know what
he was in for with this questioner though.
Speaker 16 (10:12):
How do you think this shutdown reflects on Chuck Schumer's leadership?
Speaker 17 (10:16):
Well, I think it reflects more on Mike Johnson's leadership
and President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This is a.
Speaker 17 (10:24):
Leadership which said it's okay to give a trip. Well,
how do you feel you tell me, I think it's
a good idea to give a trillion dollars in tax
breaks to the richest people in the country and then
make massive cots the healthcare for working class people.
Speaker 16 (10:37):
I think Chuck Schumer has voted for continuing resolutions thirteen
times in the last four years, and he has the
opportunity to vote for one again, but he's refusing to
come to the DABA.
Speaker 12 (10:45):
I take a look, Oh, talk about your all time backfires.
Senator Schumer is trying to pin this shutdown on the
Republican Senator Cruz. But I don't know that that narrative
is playing in the area.
Speaker 15 (10:56):
No, it is not, and it's not because it's false.
Speaker 14 (11:00):
And the questioner who was questioning Bernie last night is
exactly right.
Speaker 15 (11:04):
This is the Schumer shutdown. We are right now on day.
Speaker 14 (11:08):
Sixteen of the Schumer shutdown, and the reason we have
the shutdown is really twofold number one. The Democrats have
shut the government down because they want to try to
force free, taxpayer funded healthcare for illegal aliens, and in particular,
in the one big, beautiful bill that we pass this
summer that President Trump signed on the fourth of July,
(11:30):
we explicitly put a prohibition on Medicaid funds going to
illegal immigrants. The Democrats are insisting they will not reopen
the government unless we repeal that prohibition on funding illegal immigrants.
And so that is not a position the American people support.
The American people don't want to give free health care
to illegals, but the extremes and the Democrat Party do.
Speaker 15 (11:54):
But I'll tell you Ryan secondly, and.
Speaker 14 (11:56):
What this shutdown is about even more than that, is
Schumer is facing a political crisis, which is back in
March when we had the last expiration of government funding,
the Democrats actually worked in a bipartisan manner with Republicans
and we kept the government open, and Schumer almost lost
his job. The radical left got furious with him, and
(12:19):
Chuck Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and he
sees AOC breathing down his neck, getting ready to primary him.
And the reason the government shut down today is Schumer
is trying to prove to the crazy radicals that he
hates Donald Trump as much as they do. And so
the question was exactly right when Joe Biden was president,
(12:39):
thirteen different times, we passed a clean continuing resolution that
meant Republicans cooperated with Democrats to keep the government open.
Speaker 15 (12:50):
Today, the House is passed.
Speaker 14 (12:52):
A clean cr We could do it the fourteenth time,
but nope. Chuck Schumer has to prove to all the
crazies in the No King's rally that that he just
he's motivating, motivated by just as much hate for Trump
as they are. And it really is a shame that
you're seeing federal workers held hostage and the US government
(13:14):
held hostage for what is what is an empty political
stunt to appeal to the extreme left of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 12 (13:21):
Senator Ted Cruz our guest, I want to follow up
on what you just said, Senator, with this other excerpt
from that town hall on CNN last night. I don't
think this played very well for AOC, and Senator Sanders
goes off on a tangent when they are asked if
the plan is to primary Chuck Schumer and if AOC
will be the one to do it.
Speaker 18 (13:40):
But are you saying that Senator Schumer should not be
worried about a primary challenge from you?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
No, let me jump in on.
Speaker 18 (13:47):
This talking about that is falling apart. We've got a
house housing crisis, a healthcare crisis, an education crisis, mass
of the income and wealth, inequality, a growth campaign finances.
Speaker 17 (14:04):
And the media is the boy you could run.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Nobody cares, many.
Speaker 10 (14:08):
Cares, the health speaker and President Trump and the Vice
president saying.
Speaker 18 (14:11):
It, right, pardon of course they're saying it to deflect attention.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Away from the real issue, exactly.
Speaker 18 (14:16):
And you will tell you what the real issue is
at CFCNN talks about it. We're living in the richest
country in the history of the world, right, all right,
You tell me why we're the only nation not the
guarantee healthcare old people, the only nation not the guarantee
paid family and medically. Why we have a seven dollars
and twenty five cent an hour minimum wage, Why we
have eight hundred thousand people sleeping out on the street,
(14:39):
Why we have a president who denies the reality of
climate change.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why we have.
Speaker 18 (14:44):
Holagoqics on top who have more and more power every day.
Let's talk about that issue, not her own political future.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
She'll decide that.
Speaker 12 (14:52):
Senator Cruz, what does it say to you that they
reacted so violently to that question as to whether Chuck
Schumer's leadership.
Speaker 14 (14:58):
Is to be challenged, because they know the answer is yes,
that for all intents and purposes, AOC is acting as
the Democrat minority leader in the Senate, that she is
leading Chuck Schumer around like she has a ring through
his nose, and wherever she wants to go, he happily follows.
(15:20):
I will say I've predicted this before. I actually think
Chuck Schumer will be the inaugural member of the AOC
for President team, and he's going to try to convince
her Alexandre, You're really far too important to think about
something as lowly as Senate.
Speaker 15 (15:35):
You belong in the Oval office.
Speaker 14 (15:37):
I think that's Schumer's plan. He's going to try to
convince her of that. But listen, Bernie and AOC and
the entire Democrat Party, they are radical and they are extreme.
I've done three different town hall debates with Bernie Sanders
on CNN, and in fact, like he was asking why
don't we have socialized healthcare? Well, the answer is because
it doesn't work at every place that it does implement it.
(15:59):
You have scare and you have rationing, you have the
federal government telling you you can't get the health care
you want. And I'll tell you a response that I've
given Bernie when he asked that question, is, is you know, Ryan,
there is zero impediment to any state in the Union
setting up socialized healthcare. Under the Constitution, the states can
do that. Bernie's home state of Vermont could set up
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socialized health care. California, which has a Democrat governor and
a super majority Democrat legislature.
Speaker 15 (16:27):
Could pass socialized health care. Today, your state of.
Speaker 14 (16:31):
Colorado, you got a Democrat governor, they could pass socialized
health care.
Speaker 15 (16:35):
You should ask yourself.
Speaker 14 (16:36):
Why do none of these Democrats put socialized health care.
Speaker 15 (16:40):
In their states?
Speaker 14 (16:41):
And the answer California looked at it and they realized
it would bankrupt us. The taxes would be so high
that you would have all the employers flee. And it
doesn't work. And so what they want to do is
they want to force it on the whole country.
Speaker 15 (16:55):
So you can't flee.
Speaker 14 (16:56):
So you can't get away unless you're willing to leave America.
You can't escape. My answer to Bernie is implemented in Vermont.
And let's see if people flood to the socialist utopia
that you have up on the northern tip of the US,
and they haven't done it, and they're not going.
Speaker 15 (17:11):
To do it.
Speaker 14 (17:12):
Because when I asked Bernie in these town halls, how
come every place you put socialized healthcare you get long
waiting lines and you get people denied. No you can't
have hip surgery. No you can't have cataract surgery. You've
got an eighteen month waiting list to get the surgery
you need to.
Speaker 15 (17:30):
Why does that happen?
Speaker 14 (17:32):
And his answer, like like all good communists, he says, well,
it's never been implemented, right, but we would.
Speaker 15 (17:37):
Do it differently.
Speaker 14 (17:38):
So every place on Earth it's been implemented, it fails.
But he claims in theory somehow that if he's in
charge of your healthcare, he would magically handle it. Okay,
you know what, I'll stick with free enterprise. It works
a heck of a lot better.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Senator Ted Cruz, our guest one final point, Senator Cruz,
this interchange between you and Tucker Carlson aged very well
for you, you not so well for him. In the
wake of the Trump peace accord between Israel and Hamas, Okay,
what's the ethnic mix of Ron?
Speaker 19 (18:09):
They are Persians, were predominantly Shia. Okay, you don't know
anything about Iran. So okay, I am the Tucker Carlson
this bird on Iran. You're a senator who's calling one's
the one who about the country.
Speaker 14 (18:24):
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 17 (18:29):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 19 (18:29):
Who can't figure out to say, General Solamony? And you
said they're trying to murder Trump? Yes, because you're not
calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. If he
really believe bearing out military strikes today?
Speaker 12 (18:41):
Who said Israel was right with our help, Senator, that
was in advance of the strikes against the nuclear sites
within Iran that many are arguing, including myself or paramount
this deal getting done through a show of force.
Speaker 14 (18:54):
Your response unquestionably correct. The single most important national security
decision that President Trump has made in his second term
was the decision to launch the bombing strikes strikes on
the nuclear facilities in Iran. It was an incredible success.
We had b two bombers fly halfway around the world
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deliver bunker busting bombs to take out three nuclear facilities,
including the ford Ol facility that's literally built in the
in the bottom of a mountain to develop nuclear weapons.
And understand, Iran was working to develop nuclear weapons because
I believe they.
Speaker 15 (19:34):
Intended to use them.
Speaker 14 (19:35):
When the Iatola chance death to America and death to Israel,
I believe him. And so President Trump is a strong
commander in chief. That bombing strike was incredibly effective. And
you know you played that Tucker Carlson exchange. I got
to say. Tucker publicly said he tried very hard to
convince President Trump not to bomb the nuclear weapons facilities
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in Iran. And Tucker predicted, he said, if we bomb
those facilities, the result will be World War three. He
said thousands of Americans will die, and he said Iran
will beat US. Iran will win World War three and
beat the United States of America. Now, Ryan, those predictions
were laughably absurdly wrong. Instead, what happened is we utterly
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destroyed their nuclear weapons facility and that demonstration of strength. Look,
Iran is the chief patron of Hamas and Hesbela. More
than ninety percent of the funds for Hamas and Hesbela
come from Iran. And when Iran lost that war, it
broke the spirit and broke the back of Hamas. And
it's why we have the historic piece accord in Israel
(20:43):
and in Gaza right now, because we have a strong
commander in chief and Donald Trump. And so my simple
message on that is is Donald Trump was right and
Tucker Carlson was wrong.
Speaker 12 (20:55):
Senator Ted Cruz our guest. Now he is a primary
sponsor to keep AM radio in cars. This is a
pivotal moment for us here at iHeart and of course
you can catch his daily podcast, The Verdict with Ted
Cruz right on the iHeartRadio app along with Ben Ferguson.
But a final question on a lighter note, Senator, they
are shutting down the MTV music channels in the UK,
(21:16):
and it's only a matter of time before it happens
here in the United States. Your all time favorite music
video on MTV is.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Oh, I'd have to say Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I was.
Speaker 14 (21:28):
A teenager then, it's very funny. My press secretary is
looking at me completely confused. I think she wasn't alive
when Thriller came out. But you know, when suddenly everyone
started dancing as zombies, that was a fun time in
teenage years.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Making News right here.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
iHeart denverse Senator Ted Cruz joining us here today, Senator,
so grateful for your time. Thank you so much, and
continue the good work there on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 15 (21:53):
Thank care, God bless Senator.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Ted Cruz your reaction five seven seven three nine. Now
why I took that off ramp WITHMTV. I was filling in,
as I mentioned for Ross Kaminski over there on KOA,
our sister station, the Blowtorch, and I came across this
story that really bummed me out and for a lot
of us Gen xers and older MTV was a way
of life in the eighties. It launched in nineteen eighty
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one with the Buggles and Video Killed the Radio Star
and it was announced in October tenth, just within the
last week by BBC News not sure which BBC and
MTV will be shutting down several of its music channels
by the end of the year, and this threw fans
online into a tizzy. According to Hello Magazine, inspiring the
(22:38):
Day the music died think pieces at the Ready, But
is it as big as it seems? The follow up
to the article now and I'm just reading this for
the first time along with all of you, and it
effects MTV Music, MTV Eighties, MTV Nineties, Club, MTV and
MTV Live. They will all stop broadcasting in the UK
and Ireland, Although there has been no official statement from
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MTV or parent company Paramount on the matter, all of
these channels will stop airing after nearly forty years on television,
ending the music portion of the broadcast. They're going to
continue with, you know, the reality crap, but all of
this will go down by New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Of this year.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
Now that got me thinking what I just read there.
So if you are like me and you have cut
the cord, so you no longer have satellite access through
Direct TV or Dish network, or you are no longer
a subscriber to cable TV like Comcast, I go strictly
on the apps.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is that how you operate, Zach? I got to imagine
you might be on that.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Same page, same boat. Yeah, okay, So you know I
have a smart TV. You download all the apps, you
subscribe the ones you want, you order a la carte.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's like a menu. And so I am a subscriber
to Paramount Plus. I like it.
Speaker 12 (23:52):
I like Tulsa King, I like a lot of their
offerings from Taylor Sheridan, and I have to imagine that
they're there could be an option for MTV to continue
airing something along those lines of the music offerings on
that platform on paramount. So I'm curious as to that,
and if you have any other details along those lines.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Believe me, I want to find out about it.
Speaker 12 (24:16):
At five seven, seven, three nine, this texter says, great
shows today. Fortunately I had the day off and was
able to catch you on both stations. Regarding Senator Cruz
and Senator Sanders. Isn't the fact that additional subsidies are
needed for those on Obamacare point to fact that Obamacare
is failing? Wasn't it the Affordable Care Act? It was
(24:37):
called that it is now colloquially been referred to as Obamacare.
They ram rotted it through down strictly partisan lines when
the Democrats had control of both Houses of Congress and
the presidency. It took effect in twenty ten. I thought
we were despined from failure from the beginning that has
borne out. It is collapsing under the weight of itself
(24:59):
and the expense and another program that's doing that pertains
to two proposals that are on your ballot coming up
here in November proposals l L and m M. I'll
have a brief prime around that. It's about the school
lunch program. Free lunches for the kids. Won't anybody think
of the children. But there's some fine print there and
I've got some thoughts and we come back after this
(25:19):
on Ryan Shulding Live.
Speaker 16 (25:26):
How do you think they shut down reflects on Chuck
Schumer's leadership?
Speaker 17 (25:31):
Well, I think it reflects more on Mike Johnson's leadership
and President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
This is a.
Speaker 17 (25:38):
Leadership which said it's okay to give a trip.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, how do you feel you tell me.
Speaker 17 (25:43):
I think it's a good idea to give a trillion
dollars and talx breaks to the richest people in the
country and then make massive cuts to healthcare for working
class people.
Speaker 16 (25:51):
I think Chuck human has voted for continuing Resolutions thirteen
times in the last four years, and he has the
opportunity to vote for one again, but he's refusing to
come to the day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Look.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Look, Senator Bernie Sanders getting owned right there by a
questioner at a CNN town hall moderated by Caitlin Collins.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And oh, by the way, AOC was in.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
Attendance with Bernie as well. It was a comedy of airs.
We spoke with Senator Ted Cruz about it. Let's talk
to Representative Gabe Evans, who is right in the thick
of it as well, representing Colorado's eighth congressional district. He
joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live. Gabe, thanks for
your time.
Speaker 20 (26:27):
As always, it's always good to be hon with you.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
When you hear Bernie Sanders characterizing, you know, his typical
talking points, what is your reaction? And this is the
Democrat line right now, Chuck Schumer and others that they're
keeping healthcare away from those who need it in the
United States.
Speaker 20 (26:47):
You know, I roll my eyes because it's a blatant
smoke screen to try to cover up failed Democrat policies.
You know, I'll give you two thoughts here. First, when
somebody tells you who they are, you believe them. You
know my background. I spent twelve years in the army,
another ten years as a cop. Part of the reason
I'm in Congress right now is because the Democrats campaigned
for years on defunding the police and opening the borders
(27:10):
and giving taxpayer money to illegal immigrants. Guess what they're
doing all of that stuff right now, just via a
different mechanism. In the shutdown DEA that was taken down
Trendy at Agua, the violent Venezuelan prison gang that was
taken over apartment complexes in Aurora. DEA's not getting paid
right now. Border Patrol's not getting paid right now. We've
got the third busiest airport in the country here in Denver.
(27:31):
Our air traffic controllers aren't getting paid. And what did
Chuck Schumer say about that? He said, Oh, every day
gets better for us because he's just listening to his
radical base that wants to give tax payer money to
illegal immigrants for health care. And that ties to the
second thing that you asked. Republicans have made the largest
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investment in rural health care in American history this year,
a fifty billion dollar program specifically for rural healthcare. We've
put two hundred billion more dollars into Medicaid this year,
two hundred and fifty billion more dollars using this year
as a baseline going into healthcare. The only guardrail we've
put around it is it has to go to Americans.
(28:14):
It cannot go to illegal immigrants. And Chuck Schumer and
Hakem Jeffries can't stand that. On page fifty seven of
their counter proposal to open the government, they have proposed
to repeal those protections, repeal fifty billion dollars for real
health care, repeal two hundred billion more dollars go into Medicaid,
and they want to go back to giving taxpayer money
(28:35):
to illegal immigrants.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Congressman Evans our guest and following up on that point,
you know, I kind of get.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It, Gabe, I know how politics is done.
Speaker 12 (28:44):
Chuck Schumer's got a save face with this far left
flank to try to stave off a primary challenge extensively
from Alexandria Casio Cortes. Both she and Bernie Sanders push
back pretty hard against that, but didn't deny it, didn't
say no. So I'm trying to figure this out, honestly,
trying to look at this left brain. I know you
do the same thing what Chuck Schumer, realistically, let's get
(29:05):
real here, expects there to be in terms of a
compromise or an off ramp along with Minority Leader a
Keem Jeffries, you, Ted Cruz, the Republicans, at least, I hope,
are not going to seed any ground on funding Medicaid
or any other taxpayer funded services for illegal aliens, which
are the very basis on which President Trump signed executive
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orders along those lines.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a no go zone. It should be anyway.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
So what is the off ramp that saves face for
Schumer and keeps them in the Senate minority position and
in his very seat in the Senate.
Speaker 20 (29:40):
That is a great question, and I don't know that
Schumer and Jeffries even though what that off ramp is
right now, you know, they claim that they want more
subsidies to be continued for Obamacare on the ACA exchanges. However,
just recently, within the last forty eight hours, Schumer was offered, Okay,
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you claim this is what you want, we'll bring it
to the floor of the Senate for a vote in
exchange for opening the government. He turned that down, said
it was a non starter. Jeffreys, the Democrat leader in
the House, very similar He was asked, would you support
a bipartisan one year extension for these subsidies that you
talk about all the time to open the government up,
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and he said it was a non starter. So the
very things that they claim that they want, they don't
actually want. They've turned down opportunities to have conversations about
those things. It truly is a case of the far
left tail wagging the rest of the dog. With the
dog at this point being the Democrat Party, they don't
even know.
Speaker 15 (30:42):
What they want.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Congressman Gabe Evans joining us now. I know you're a
freshman Congressman Gabe, and you're doing your level best on
behalf of the citizens and residents of the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You're doing a fine job.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
Have you had any personal interactions, conversations, even in passing, informally,
formally whatever, with any of the following a Keem Jeffries himself,
Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, anyone else that you've had a
substantive conversation of any kind regarding the shutdown on or not.
Speaker 20 (31:13):
Nope, they tell you, They tell you till they're blue
in the face. They just want to talk about it.
But would you actually want to talk substance about it?
Not a lot of interest.
Speaker 12 (31:23):
Now, I want to go to one Democrat that I
think you should seek out a conversation with Gabe because
he might be the only same Democrat in an entire
body on Capitol Hill be it House or Senate, and
that's the Democrat question mark from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman, here
is his very base to take and we'll have it
again coming on the other side of this break.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 21 (31:43):
Well, it's like, that's why shutting the government is really
what the Democratic Party wants to do. And I follow country,
then party, and it's the wrong thing for the country
in a period of chaos. I refuse to vote to
shut our government down.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I absolutely would love to.
Speaker 21 (32:05):
I would love to have a conversation about extending the
tax credits for healthcare. Absolutely, but I would remind everybody too,
this was designed by the Democratic.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Party to expire at the end of the year. This
is not something taken.
Speaker 21 (32:19):
From by by the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's they were designed to expire.
Speaker 21 (32:24):
Now, let's have a conversation to extend it and not
shut our government down, and let's continue to He has.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Already agreed to that.
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Now, that was a part of the COVID subsidies that
were originated during the Biden administration. Gabe, and in good faith,
I think you, Speaker Johnson, Leader Foon, you've brought that
very same thing to the table, even though in a
Republican controlled Congress.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm sure you'd like to roll a lot of that back.
Speaker 20 (32:50):
Well, I mean betterman, you know, And to be fair,
he has He's been one of the few Democrats in
the Senate that has consistently voted for this clean cr
partisan writers or smoke filled backroom deals just continue to
fund the government at statusical levels. Fetterman has consistently voted
for that, you know. To be completely fair for him,
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but I mean, he hit the nail on the head
when he said that these subsidies were designed by the
Democrats when Joe Biden was in the White House and
Democrats controlled the House and the Senate during COVID. They
were designed to expire this year. They're not expiring because
Trump or the Republicans are taking them away. They're expiring
because the Democrats made them expire. And again going back
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to the previous talking point, the the Democrats are trying
to use this as a smoke screen to detract from
all of their other failed policies that are recurring right now.
And this is why we have a government shut down.
Because they're rudderless, they're directionless, they don't know what they want.
They just know that they're mad. And because they're mad.
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They're shutting the government down, denying our law enforcement paychecks,
denying our air traffic controllers' paychecks. And this needs to stop.
We need to put America first.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
Final point here, Representative Gabe Evans our guest from the
eighth Congressional District, and it's one of the things I
wanted to make sure that we talked about during our
conversation here. Gabe, you know you are in a very
purple district that you won narrowly.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You're running for reelection. I know you're a target of
the Democrats.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
And conversely, you could say the same thing about Representative
Don Davis. He's in a swing district Democrat out of
North Carolina. But you came together on this piece of legislation,
a bill entitled Hiring Preferences for Veterans and Americans with
Disabilities Act. I know my home state Senator Alissa Slotkin,
Democrat purple state Michigan, is also involved.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
In this on the Senate side.
Speaker 12 (34:40):
But if you can kind of nuts and bolts sit
here for us for our listeners why it's important and
why you chose to.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Take this up now.
Speaker 20 (34:48):
Yeah, so again, you know there is there, truly is
a lot of bipartisan work that happens in Congress that
never really makes the big time media headlines because it's
not as exciting.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
To report on.
Speaker 20 (34:58):
Hey, people agree and are working together make life better
for everybody. So the bill that you mentioned, I've introduced
it in the House. I've got Don Davis, a Democrat
in the House who is my House co sponsor. It's
actually bipartisan and bicameral. We have Republican Senator Tim Sheehy
and Democrat Senator Alissa slot Tim who are sponsoring this
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in the Senate. And it's a pretty simple bill. It's
a bill that's personal to me. Again, you know, I
spent twelve years in the Army, and the Army had
me all over. I've been stationed in Arizona, in Kentucky,
in Washington State, in Alabama, in Virginia, in the Middle East,
and so when you're moving around all the time, you
don't typically change your permanent residence. Your home of record
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is what we call it in the military.
Speaker 15 (35:42):
When I was.
Speaker 20 (35:43):
Stationed down in Alabama, my home of record was still
here in Colorado, regardless of where the military stationed me.
But that can present problems if you have either the
military member themselves or their spouse who is trying to
volunteer or work as an election worker. And so one
of the things that this piece of legislation that I've
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introduced does is it says that in hiring an election
worker the state or local jurisdiction, they can't deny somebody
that job just because they're a non resident, spouse or
military member.
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Representative Gabe Evans getting the good work done on behalf
of the people in the eighth Congressional District. I just
wish he was my congressman. I'm stuck with Jason Crow.
You follow the latest on X. Where can they follow
you there, Gabe?
Speaker 20 (36:33):
Yeah, So go visit me at Repevans on X or
visit the website Gabevans dot House dot gov.
Speaker 12 (36:40):
Always appreciate your time, keep up the good work, stand
your ground on this budget bill.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It'll get through the Democrats. O Cave. I think you
and I both know that well.
Speaker 20 (36:49):
We're going to keep fighting to put Americans first. And
when the Democrats talk about what's a non starter, I mean,
I can tell you the Republicans are pretty committed to
making sure that American tax payer money goes to America.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And such a shining star as a freshman congressman.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
He'll be on the bellet running for reelection, of course,
every two years, and then he'll be coming up in
twenty twenty six, and we always enjoy having him on.
We'll round it out with your tax five seven, seven,
three nine on this Thursday edition of Ryan Shulding Line.
Democrats are in a real pickle when it comes to
John Fetterman, because he's extremely popular in the purple state
(37:25):
of Pennsylvania. In fact, his popularity among Republicans is well
into positive territory, and it's popularity with Democrats. He's lower,
but it's still about fifty percent. They could try the
primarium with a more extreme typical leftist, you know, but
the Senate race in Pennsylvania, that would be a real
tricky thing, a real sticky wicket, and they might get
(37:47):
stuck with a Republican instead. They might have to do
what Republicans do in Maine was Susan Collins, and go
that's as good as we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I like John Fetterman.
Speaker 12 (37:56):
I like him a lot, and he's the only Democrat
I think we can possibly tolerate in terms of you know,
he's an honest broker and I really appreciate that about him.
To the text line, we go five seven to seven
three nine. Ryan's so impressed you had Cruise on. I'll
try to listen more during this time of day. Well,
please do. My favorite MTV video is Van Halen Jumped
(38:16):
nineteen eighty four, a classic, or among the first videos.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
John Cougar, Jack.
Speaker 12 (38:20):
And Die in nineteen eighty two back in eighty two,
Throw football over the mountains Uncle Rico style. Ryan, that's
a big time interview. Well done, Thank you very much.
We hope to have Senator Cruz on again. We love
having a representative Gabe Evans on and I am trying
to get the big fish in John Fetterman literally and figuratively.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
One more, I was bummed that in his.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
Last concert in Denver, Bob Seger didn't do Get out
of Denver.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I thought that would be the last song. Well he
sure did.
Speaker 12 (38:48):
GTFO I had ten for himself after that one, and
I don't blame him. It's a great song. Would have
been the perfect one to end on. That'll do it
for me from here for now. Thanks for tuning in today,
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