March 25, 2025 • 37 mins
Lori Gimelshteyn of Colorado Parent Advocacy Network joins Ryan to comment on the latest shocking grooming revelations out of a public school district in the state, as first reported by Mairead Elordi of The Daily Wire.
A student at Durango High School is being housed by an LGBTQ activist teacher and her trans-female identifying husband, against the mother's wishes. The biological female student now identifies as male, and 'has been diagnosed with autism, ADHD, an eating disorder, depression, and anxiety, according to medical records provided by her mother.'
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LGBT Activist Teacher, Trans Husband House Minor Teen Girl In Colorado Against Mom’s Wishes
A student at Durango High School is being housed by an LGBTQ activist teacher and her trans-female identifying husband, against the mother's wishes. The biological female student now identifies as male, and 'has been diagnosed with autism, ADHD, an eating disorder, depression, and anxiety, according to medical records provided by her mother.'
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LGBT Activist Teacher, Trans Husband House Minor Teen Girl In Colorado Against Mom’s Wishes
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, don't hear, don't worry about them, And we
heard a little bit more of the song than you
usually do. But can you get enough ac DC. I
don't think so, especially when the z ban is back.
Zach segers on the other side of the glass. Zach,
you enjoying the madness so far?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's been a great tournament.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, who you got winning in the whole thing? Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I feel anxious that for that last game, but.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I also faith Listen, they were playing the two time
defending champions in Yukon and Dan Hurley. We talked a
little bit about that yesterday because it was a protege
of mine from some time ago. Joey ellis who got
caught in the thicket, shall we say, in the tunnel
of the game, Dan Hurley, the coach walking off the
(00:41):
court and recorded some not favorable language coming from the
coach directed at the Baylor players to support them, but say, hey,
don't get screwed over by the reps like we did.
And Joey ended up getting in some hot water for
that by the sports information director now they call it
media relations coordinator or comms director by any name. This
(01:03):
guy was ridiculous in saying take this video down or
I will ruin your life. Talk about a guy drunk
with power, Zach, can you imagine encountering that if it
was you and Joey's shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It'd be terrifying, Frankly, like, especially as a young reporter,
that oh yeah, crazy cover up nasty stuff. It makes
the I think that's worse than whatever Hurly said. You know,
he said, don't let him screw you to clean it up,
right right? Yeah, you know that's not as bad as
the you know, threatening someone's entire career in livelihood.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I try to think Joey would have been a college
student back when I was still working in Lansing, so
he's probably a couple years older than Zach, but you know,
same range, at least same relative experience level. And it's
just not cool. It's not cool. And I'm going to
stand up and defend Joey. Ellis and I have invited
him to join this program, and he said, once it
(01:55):
cools down a little bit, he would love to join me.
But he can't write now because his higher ups, understandably
are telling him kind of lay low, let's take care
of this first, and we'll take care of you if
you can text us at five seven, seven thirty nine.
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Miney's easier to say, but very difficult to spell. But
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we're very glad to be joined by Laurie. Gimme Stein
all right now on Ryan Schuling Live. Laurie, thank you
for your time. We always appreciate you joining us. Did
I get your last name right?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Gimmill Stein? Thank you so much. It's great to be
on your show this afternoon. Marian, how's it going well?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay between you and me, I'm extremely concerned about why
we're talking today, and Laurie is part of the Colorado
Parent Advocacy Network. Before we get into the details of
why you were joining me today, Laurie, can you tell
us more about Colorado Parent Advocacy Network, how it started,
how you became a part of the driving force behind it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Several years ago, during the twenty twenty pandemic, our two
children were in Cherry Creek schools and started to come
home when they were going back to school in small
cohorts masks. You remember that really fun time, and they
were telling us stories that were really alarming to us.
And our daughter Jenny, who was eleven at the time,
shared the story with us that her friend Stella was
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now going to be River, and River was going to
use his hymn pronouns and use the boys room. Now,
this was four years ago and the transgender craze had
not begun yet, and so I clearly thought Jenny was wrong,
and I just I made a comment, thinking to myself,
I must have missed the email, and I said, oh,
that's really progressive of River's parents to ask the school
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to do a workshop. I had never heard.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Of such a thing.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And Jenny looked at me and she said, oh no,
Mommy River goes home every day as a girl. His
parents have no idea. And so that was, you know,
kind of a huge alarm bell for me, and you know,
I did genuinely think that she was mistaken.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then our son came home, who.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
At the time was in eighth grade, and she asked
me for help on an assignment. And the assignment was
why is your favorite hobby racist?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Why?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And in the ruber to get full points, he had
to write the phrase racist against people of color. And
our son had started the project and he built an
organization called LYFT to fight racism in skiing. Skiing it's
a say hobby. And when I read through it, and
I looked at Chris and I said, you'll get an
F on this paper before you lie. He looked at
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me and he said, you don't understand, mom. I have
to think one way at home in another way at school.
And at the time, I'm a speech pathologist. I'd been
in private practice for two decades and I just started
doing what any parently do start calling the teachers.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I thought we must have an activist.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, it was that time where our country was
so divided, it was chaos.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And I quickly learned that it was far beyond.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
My child's teachers, and it went all the way up
to the Board of Education in Trey Creek and district administration.
And so I started to do investigations, go to school
board meetings with getting nowhere and realized that this was
a pervasive problem. And thankfully I got connected to some
really great people at the state level here people I'm
(05:55):
sure you know over at the Independence Institute, with Tim
Benina who was the director of education seat there.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And the honorable Bill Cadmu and you know, people that
are then in the.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Education arena for years. And I then was fortunately connected
to doctor Alvida King, and she is, as many of
your listeners probably know, doctor Martin Luther King Junior's niece.
And we got on the phone and she said, you know,
I think what you really need to do is make
this a statewide organization, not just focusing on Cherry Creek,
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but really bringing it out to a statewide and we
launched a November of twenty twenty two, doctor Alvida King
was our keynote speaker, and since that time we have
just been non stop holding schools accountable, helping parents. We
are fostering restoring the parents' voice in education and their
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authority to direct the upbringing and development of their children.
And so the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network is doing great things.
In the last ten months, we have facilitated had three
major lawsuits and two lawsuits that are kind of more local.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Here.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We are exposing information in the media and that's one
of the reasons why I came to join you today
because we're helping a family, a mom down in Durango,
and we've been working with Cindy, this mom since November.
She's submitted an INTI report via our website at Coloradoparents
dot org. And this tool allows parents, students, teachers to
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report concerns and issues and for CPN to then help
them advocate to resolve those issues. And we have a
variety of issues that come in. Right now, I have
fifty eight incident reports on my desk. Cindy's has been
one of them since November, and we've bene with her
every step of the way, and today we were able
to get her story published with the Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It really is remarkable the work that you've done to
get it to this point, but then the Daily Wire
taking it running with it, getting into great detail. And
this is going to sound shockingly familiar to those in
this audience that have been following the work that we've
done on this program with Lindsay Dadko, jeffco Kids. First
with Aaron Lee, the parent of a former Puter School
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district girl who was indoctrinated via what was described as
an after school art club into becoming and identifying as trans.
This is an adoctrination, This is grooming taking place. This
is administrators and teachers and staff inserting themselves into the
relationship that should be sacricync to a family between parents
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and children, that should be prioritized, that should be deferred to,
but instead is being replaced by these schools. And I
want to hone in on a particular detail putting together
pieces of the puzzle that you just provided for us
and our audience here, Laurie, and again you can find
out more follow them on x at Seapan Colorado. That's
Colorado parent advocacy work. You use the word family. You
(09:02):
also mentioned the cherry Creek School District, and I picked
up on a video this is a different topic, but
a similar vein in the superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools,
Christopher Smith, getting very emotional on a video as it
pertained to students who may have illegal status and they're
being ice ray, deportations, etc. But that's kind of a
(09:25):
side issue to this main detail, which was he kept
referring to the student body, the teachers, the entire culture
and atmosphere at Cherry Creek Schools as a family. And
to me, Laurie, that is a big red flag that
a school system would refer to itself as a family
when the vast majority of these students, if not close
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to all, have their own families and it's not at
the school.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, let there be no mistakes.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The public school district in Cherry Creek, in Jefferson County
and Poter, in school districts across the state, Adams Aurora,
they all believe that they know better than the parents,
and they are undermining parental authority and they are teaching
children through programs that are embedded with critical race theory
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DEI diversity equity inclusion initiatives. We call that uppercase DEI,
because it's been completely hijacked social emotional learning, where they're
fundamentally changing the morals and values that we the parents
and still in our children. And I encourage your listeners
you need to do a social media deep dive on
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your children's teachers, and you need to talk with your
children about warning signs because as parents, we don't really
realize that a lot of people don't really realize this
is happening in our schools that the public school thanks
to Governor Poll is signing an April of twenty twenty
three Build twenty four nine non legal name changes. It
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allows public schools to transition your child socially behind your back,
and the schools have been doing this for years. We
have evidence from Cherry Creek, Jefferson County, all over the
state where they have these gender support transition plans.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So if a child goes.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
To quote unquote a trusted adult, a trusted teacher, and
by the way, anybody that self identifies as a trust adult,
you need to tell your kid that's not a trusted adult.
George Mama in Jefferson County, former child crime investigator, helped
us do an investigation back in October of twenty three,
exposing the Colorado Crisis line and also in their attempts
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to groom children.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It is pervasive.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It is everywhere, and on our website we do have
a parent's tab, So our whole focus we want to
help the parents. We want parents to be the best advocates.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Want parents to.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Know that they have to take their authority back from
the schools, and we've got some great resources to help
them have conversations with their kids about all these different topics.
You know, not just around the gender ideology craze it's
totally out of control in DEI, but also about drugs
and safety and a variety of issues that our schools are.
(12:22):
It's just they're infested with problems. And in the state
of Colorado. You know, I when I hear Chris cry
about money the Cherry Creek superintendent, or cry about you know,
ice that's not even coming into the school, it infuriates me.
Here we have a man that's making upwards of a
half a million dollars in salary and benefits and he's
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crying about the lots of money. We have an administrative
bloat that is huge in public schools. What they need
to do is they need to streamline the administration and
get our kids reading, writing, and doing math at grade levels.
Over fifty percent of kids in the state of Colorado
are not proficient in any of those areas, and it
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is a crisis. It's a crisis, and we need families
to really understand what's happening and know that they're focusing
more on changing your child's morals and values than they
aren't teaching your child how to read and to have
a successful future.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Find out more of their website. As you mentioned, Coloradoparents
dot org. Lori Gimmelstein our guest in helping spearhead this investigation,
which is chilling, and it is an echo of what
we've heard before. And I just think to what Laurie
is saying regarding her son having to conform to this ideology,
this mindset, this cult and be a different person at
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school than he is at home. It's a star chamber,
it's thunderdome. I can only imagine what these kids are
going through. And that's just those are just the ones
that are trying to get by. Then there was this
my read Elordie in pardon me if I'm not saying
her name correctly, but for Daily Wire. It's entitled the
following LGBT to his teacher trans husband, how's minor teen
(14:03):
girl in Colorado? Against mom's wishes? Subheading, she says, quote,
I just can't stress to you enough how floored I
am that this woman has gotten away with what she has.
There was also an encounter with law enforcement, and this
has been a trend and a theme as well when
we look at Columbine High School and the principle there
(14:24):
in Scott Christy just kind of don't ask, don't tell.
It's just a gay person or couple doing their thing,
or in this case it's a trans thing. I don't
want to get involved. And that's apparently what law enforcement
did here. There was a wellness check going back now
to January five, and the police were called by the
(14:46):
mother and two deputies with the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office
responded and the following on a video was captured. Quote basically,
as long as I know that everybody's okay, that's really
the extent of law enforcement involvement, you know what I mean.
I don't know. I don't know what else to say,
said one deputy to both Smotherman's these This is the
couple I described in the title of this story. He
(15:08):
was on their porch when he arrived. We get it.
He's just incredibly terrified right now because of everything that
they've been through. Using male pronouns for a female student.
The student is seventeen years old, still a minor. Still
a minor, mind you, but she's been taken leam Neeson
style from her mother, from her parents, into this household
that is, shall we say, a house of very fluid morals.
(15:32):
And I just don't see why the default position, whether
it's law enforcement or the school systems themselves, Laurie, is
not you know what, we are going to default to
the parents and defer to their knowledge of their own
child that they have raised since birth. That is not
the case. The opposite is the case. They assume the
parents do not have the child's best interest in mind,
and that's where they step in.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Absolutely, and you know, quite honestly, we're going to be
talking more about this and releasing it from on our
social media platforms, and we actually uh. Cindy, the mom
filed an incident report with CPM back in November, and
at that time her daughter had run away from home.
So this was before we got to January fifth, and
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her daughter.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Was still living at home.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
She ran away. Mom didn't know where she was. It
took two days for the mom to find out, you know,
that she you know, was you know, basically staying at
a friend's house. And interestingly enough, when mom showed up
and the police were on scene, this teacher also showed
up on scene, and the police wouldn't let the mom
talk with a daughter, but gave the teacher, her former teacher,
(16:42):
former mouth teacher, permission to talk with Cindy's daughter, And
that was really shocking. And and during that time when
she was talking with this teacher, uh, the daughter actually
ended up telling the police that that she felt suicidal
and that she and so the teacher was was coaching her.
We suspect to say these things so that she wouldn't
(17:03):
have to be returned back home. And after a very
long and very complex situation that we were navigating back
in Nordmember around this and the daughter having to go
for a mental health stay and then being returned and
CPS getting involved, and essentially CPS came and did an
interview and allowed the daughter to come home under the
(17:26):
conditions that mom would give her two locations to go
to in the event that her daughter felt unsafe. And
let's define what unfaith is. Unsafe is your parents parenting you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
This is not abuse.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's not abused. For your parents to have a conversation
with you, or to be disappointed in you, or to
you know, tell you that you know you're going down
the wrong track. That is what we are as parents.
We have to guide our children's development. That's what we've
been charged.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
With to do.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And so Cynthia agreed to this and said I will
absolutely agree with us. In addition, CPS wrote in their
report that Cindy was responsible for her daughter feeling suicidal
because she would not affirm her gender change and wrote
several recommendations on that you must do this, connecting them
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to Rainbow Resources to better support her daughter. And you know,
now her daughter's home. Cindy's just happy she's home. She's
she's so grateful she's safe. She didn't know what was
happening for a couple of days. And then right before Christmas,
we get I get a phone call and Cindy's like,
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I don't know where she went. We had an argument,
she left. I assumed she was going to one of
the two places we agree to in CPS, and she
wasn't there and she didn't know where she was, and
so we we filed an official runaway report with the
deputy Lasada County Deputy Sheriff's.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Office, and.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
We didn't hear back.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The deputy said we're going to follow this to ground.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
The deputy was the one who used the term harboring.
If this teacher has this child without the parents' permission,
she is harboring. That's how that is against the law.
We heard nothing back from the deputy. And then three
days later, Study emailed the deputy and he wrote.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Back, Oh, I tried to call.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You, but it wouldn't go through. We removed the runaway report.
Your daughter's fine. And so we did some email communications
that we are going to be releasing over the next
couple of days with Philipplada County Deputy and ultimately what
he said is we're not going to do anything. You
are more than welcome to go get your daughter. And
so on January fifth, CPAN helped Sydney could of coordinate
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efforts to go retrieve her daughter.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Now she's being put into.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
A very difficult situation in the middle of nowhere in
Durango where these people live that are harboring her daughter.
And you know, we basically got recording, We got friends
to go with her. We coached her on you know
what what she needed to do, you know, don't go
on to property. Make a phone call, and she did.
She called, she called Joanne's mother. Man, we have all
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the recordings that we're all we're going to be releasing
these as well. And she said, listen, my daughter doesn't
have permission to be in your home. I'd like you
to encourage her to pack up her things and encourage
her to come out willingly. And the response from this teacher,
this former teacher that worked at Durango High School and
now works at Durrango Adult Education Center, said, I'm calling
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on Onyx's lawyer.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Okay, so what did Cindy do?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
She called nine to one one. This woman is harboring
her child, someone that has groomed her child to believe
that she was born in the wrong body, that she's
actually a boy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And this child has several comorbids.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Of ease, if you will, in terms of diagnoses that
make her very vulnerable. And when this relationship between Joanne
Smotherman and her daughter began. Uh mom was diagnosed with
cancer and was going to very significant, very hard chemotherapy
and very aggressive and it was a very difficult time
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for the family. And that is when this teacher kind
of just befriended this child. And now we have a
situation where this this teacher has assumed authority over over
this this vulnerable child, and this mom is left with nothing.
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No one will help her, the school, the school counselor CPS,
and the police. The only group standing with her is
the Colorado Care and Advocacy Network And we are so
grateful that we have a we're all all volunteer network, Ryan,
and we have the best of the best people in
Colorado coming together with organizations like Protect Kids Colorado, Jessco,
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Kids First, Task Force, Freedom, all of us. We're all
working together, Gaves against Groomers, and we're going to stop this.
We are here to protect Colorado's children and their families.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Laurie Gimmelstein doing the good work, as she mentioned, in
concert with those other organizations that are also doing I
call it the Lord's work for these children that are misguided.
This seventeen year old girl who now identifies as a boy,
uses the name Onyx that we just heard has been
diagnosed with autism ADHD and eating disorder, depression and anxiety.
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This is a disturbed young person who has been enabled
in this fantasy by two adults that do not have
this individual's best interest at heart. Her mother does and
when you look at the details in this article, I'm
going to send this to Sheriff Steve Reems in Weld County.
This is a total abdication of duty by the Laplata
Deputies and the Sheriff's office. Here the quotes here, and
(23:02):
they are captured on video. These are not made up.
They are galling, they are chilling, and they are completely
again derelict in their duty of protecting this young person
and protecting a mother in this instance, in this confrontation,
it is sickening and you can find out more at
Daily Wire. I am reaching out to the reporter in
(23:23):
this as well. May read a Lordie and it's entitled
LGBT activist teacher trans husband, How's minor teen girl in
Colorado against mom's wishes? There will be more to come
on this story. Laurie will definitely be looking forward to
talking to you about it. Thank you so much. For
sharing your time and perspective with us here today.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Thank you, Ryan, have a great afternoon, all.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Right, well not so great after that, but hopefully better
from here your thoughts five seven seven three nine. And
you can follow the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network and I
would strongly recommend that you do so on x at
seapan CPAN Colorado in their website Coloradoparents dot org. Along
in that segment, we're back with more after this on
Ryan Schuling Life. I'm still trying to really process that
(24:11):
conversation we just had Lori Gimmelstein and her kid in
Cherry Creek Schools, and I want to bring Kelly cachera
in because her children also attended Cherokee Trail within Cherry
Creek Schools. And I'm not sure how carefully you were
able to listen there, Kelly about Laurie was describing regarding
her son, saying, Mom, I got to turn in this
(24:33):
project and do as I'm told and be a totally
different person at school than I am here at home.
Did you hear similar things from Trevor Or Haley about
projects they had to work on, assignments they were given.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, but a lot of it's surrounding climate change. That
was the big It's.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Still a form of indoctrination, but still a politicization of
the classroom that should not be happening. I know that
a lot of my teachers, going back to my days
at Grass Lake High School or my days at Central
Michigan University, a vast majority were liberal. I knew that, Yeah,
but I did not feel and I would, I swear
to you in my audience into Kelly and to Zach
(25:10):
if I did encounter that, I would say something, I
would talk about it. That didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I encountered it a little bit. At Purdue.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
One of my classes was political theory, right, and we
had to be assigned to read uh first in the
Balance by Al Gore.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, and the planet's supposed to not exist by twenty ten, Right,
wasn't that the prediction? Yeah, well, twenty ten, we're all
supposed to be melted away here.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But again, the class is called political theory.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I had a political science teacher at Jackson Community College
where I played baseball, who here and there? He'd say things, well,
you know, tricky dick talking about Richard Nixon. I was
like a ha ha, But he didn't really get into it.
I felt I had agency. I could decide for myself. Yeah,
which way I was going to go, and politically or otherwise.
I wasn't told what to think, Kelly, And that's what
(26:06):
I'm hearing here.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
So when my kids matriculated through Cherry Creek, a lot
of it was in doctrination about climate change and you know,
teachers inserting their politics, you know, Barack Obama and those
types of things. Yeah, which is fine whatever, everybody has
an opinion. It didn't it hadn't really started to transition yet,
(26:33):
you know, for lack of a better word, into.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All of this.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Really weird indoctrination of kids' sex lives. Yes, and they're appropriate, Yes,
And so Haley still has some friends that go to
the school, and that does go on at Cherry Kee Trow.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
There are a few teachers that are.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Quote unquote safe to tell and Arne, it didn't happen
in our situation to keep.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Secrets from your parents. I don't like that. I don't
like that premise. No, and that's not the role of
a teacher. If you fear for the student's safety, leave
it to the experts. Have child protective services come in
do an investigation. The mother of the Columbine High school
student was inviting that, say, come check everything. She's got
a great home life here. I love her as a
(27:29):
mother unconditionally. Well, leave it to the experts. Do not
place yourself in a position of God where you're the
ones thinking you know best for what the children and
the parents know nothing and they're left in the dark.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Kelly, and your conversation with Laurie was equally as disturbing
as talking, you know, with the Durango parent who literally
lost her daughter.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And I want to pause you right there because we've
got to go to break. And I went along in
the previous segment. I sent the story to Weld County
Sheriff's Steve Reams are a good friend who filled in
for Dan last week. I'm going to read directly. This
is from bodycam video footage, so these are not embellished
quotes from what the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office deputies did.
And the sheriff of Wild County just responded with the
(28:15):
following after reviewing what they said. I think the law
enforcement folks completely fed this up. Sheriff Steve Reams time
out and I'll read you what he believes represents that
f up when we come back. This is another stunning story.
You can find it Daily Wire. There is an epidemic
of this in Colorado and it's completely intentional and deliberate,
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The z maneing on the other side of the glass.
Your texts in a moment five seven seven three nine.
But I want to make sure I bring you this
from the Daily Wire article that dropped today myriad a lordie,
(31:10):
LGBT activist teacher and trans husband. How's minor teen girl
in Colorado? Against mom's wishes. I'm just going to get
to the quotes here pulled from the article and most
of it directly from police bodycam footage. Again, none of
this is embellished and none of this is truncated. Now,
the mother in this incident, named Cynthia Stein told Daily
(31:35):
Wires Smotherman, this is one of the couple that was aforementioned.
The LGBT activist teacher and the trans husband stepped in
and took advantage of my kid. She's just inserted herself
into my family and I still can't get her out.
It's a virus, that's my added a quote to that.
I just can't stress to you enough how Florida I am.
(31:56):
That this woman has gotten away what she has, and
that there's nothing I can do to make it right
or hold her accountable for the article. On November two,
of the teen ran away from home after her mother
told her they were moving to Denver to be in
her family and to put some distance between the teen
and local influences. Law enforcement and child protective services got involved,
and the child ultimately went home to her mother. However,
(32:18):
the girl left home again on December twenty one after
a fight with her mother. This time she went straight
to the smotherman's house. Her mother later discovered, although she
initially did not know where her daughter was, and filed
a runaway report with the police. Then January five, Stein
went with two friends at the smotherman's house and tried
to retrieve her daughter. Steyn called the police, and two
deputies with the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office responded and conducted
(32:42):
what was I guess in air quotes a welfare check
on her daughter. Quote basically, as long as I know
that everybody's okay, that's really the extent of law enforcement involvement.
You know what I mean. I don't know. I don't
know what else to say. One deputy told both smothermans
on the porch as he arrived. WE get it. He's
just incredibly terrified right now because of everything that they've
(33:02):
been through. Vivian responded, using male pronouns for the biological girl.
The officer went inside and asked the teen how she was,
and she responded, I'm good. How are you good? That's
all I needed to basically hear, the officer said, adding later,
you don't appear to be in distress. I don't want
to put words in your mouth. The teen responded, no,
not until my mom showed up. I was totally fine.
(33:23):
I was having fun. The officer then said, I mean, yes,
by legal standard, you're technically a minor as a seventeen
year old, telling her that quote, as long as you're
not being held against your will or kidnapped or anything
awful like that. Things get a little more complicated when
we hit seventeen years old and have the ability to
drive and go places and make decisions about who we
(33:43):
hang out with. Question for the deputy. If this is
a seventeen year old girl checking up with an adult
teacher male, would you respond the same way and don't
tell me yes because you wouldn't. Absolute polutely ridiculous incoherent
(34:04):
response from the sheriff's deputies here embarrassing for La Plata.
The officer said the following, I appreciate your willingness to
I don't know. I guess helped me check boxes. He's
just along for the ride. You know, he's a second
having a good time. He's seventeen, seventeen eighteen. Who was
(34:24):
counting your mind? Or that gets worse? It gets worse, folks.
And this was an exchange between see. The other officer
was speaking with Vivian outside about how the team ended
up at the Smothermans. The team claimed her mother kicked
her out, but her mother said that while they didn't
have a fight, she never meant to kick her daughter out.
The officer then asked, he got kicked out and now
(34:46):
they want him back. Joeanne Smotherman said he has not
been told by his parents to come back. This is
biological girl, by the way, still the officer said, well,
it seems like they want him back now. No, this
is BARTI fIF type crap right here. The smother Wins
also informed the officers the team was a couple of
months away from turning eighteen. The first officer said, using
(35:06):
air quotes, certainly not what I would consider a child
or tea. I mean, smotherman, the trans identifying Democrat activists
told the cops he absolutely does not want the teen's
mother coming out of his property, and as the officers
walked to their cars, the first officer told his partner,
(35:26):
probably going to have to speak with them, referring to
the teen's mom and her friends. The second officer said, yeah,
they're going to have a meltdown exactly. The first officer responded,
laughing back. At the bottom of the driveway, Stein told
the deputies, quote, she is a miner. I don't care
if she's a day away from eighteen. A miner is
(35:46):
a miner, and she does not have my permission to
be here. The first officer told her that quote, minor
and child are different, and the situation was on a
civil level and quote does not rise to the level
law enforcement involvement. So I'm sorry you're telling me that
you're not going to Stein began the officer respotted physically
ripper out of that home. Yeah, no, we're not going
(36:08):
to do that. Folks. This was the conduct of the
Laplata Sheriff's deputies in response to this incident. Is that
acceptable to you? Is that how you want your sheriff's
deputies handling a situation like this, with this kind of
glib sense of humor and lack of seriousness. What is
(36:31):
this crap? If you work in law enforcement, I'd be
good a response, as I mentioned from Sheriff Steve Reams. I, Kelly,
can you imagine how Sheriff Steve Reams would handle this
if he got win that his deputies behaved in this
manner and said these things certainly not like that, They'd
be gone, Uh huh, They'd be done. It'd be over.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
And if anyone in his department actually pulled that, if
they would be disciplined and probably brought up on You know,
I'm written up for something.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
There would have been something.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
There would be consequences. This is what's going on, folks
in the state of Colorado. It is far from an
isolated incident. We all know that in this audience and
we will continue to cover it until it's logical conclusion,
which is rooting out this type of grooming behavior in
adults who should know better, and they do know better,
All right, don't hear, don't worry about them, And we
heard a little bit more of the song than you
usually do. But can you get enough ac DC. I
don't think so, especially when the z ban is back.
Zach segers on the other side of the glass. Zach,
you enjoying the madness so far?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's been a great tournament.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, who you got winning in the whole thing? Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I feel anxious that for that last game, but.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I also faith Listen, they were playing the two time
defending champions in Yukon and Dan Hurley. We talked a
little bit about that yesterday because it was a protege
of mine from some time ago. Joey ellis who got
caught in the thicket, shall we say, in the tunnel
of the game, Dan Hurley, the coach walking off the
(00:41):
court and recorded some not favorable language coming from the
coach directed at the Baylor players to support them, but say, hey,
don't get screwed over by the reps like we did.
And Joey ended up getting in some hot water for
that by the sports information director now they call it
media relations coordinator or comms director by any name. This
(01:03):
guy was ridiculous in saying take this video down or
I will ruin your life. Talk about a guy drunk
with power, Zach, can you imagine encountering that if it
was you and Joey's shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It'd be terrifying, Frankly, like, especially as a young reporter,
that oh yeah, crazy cover up nasty stuff. It makes
the I think that's worse than whatever Hurly said. You know,
he said, don't let him screw you to clean it up,
right right? Yeah, you know that's not as bad as
the you know, threatening someone's entire career in livelihood.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I try to think Joey would have been a college
student back when I was still working in Lansing, so
he's probably a couple years older than Zach, but you know,
same range, at least same relative experience level. And it's
just not cool. It's not cool. And I'm going to
stand up and defend Joey. Ellis and I have invited
him to join this program, and he said, once it
(01:55):
cools down a little bit, he would love to join me.
But he can't write now because his higher ups, understandably
are telling him kind of lay low, let's take care
of this first, and we'll take care of you if
you can text us at five seven, seven thirty nine.
Start those texts Ryan, if you would please be sure
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Miney's easier to say, but very difficult to spell. But
(02:57):
we're very glad to be joined by Laurie. Gimme Stein
all right now on Ryan Schuling Live. Laurie, thank you
for your time. We always appreciate you joining us. Did
I get your last name right?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Gimmill Stein? Thank you so much. It's great to be
on your show this afternoon. Marian, how's it going well?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay between you and me, I'm extremely concerned about why
we're talking today, and Laurie is part of the Colorado
Parent Advocacy Network. Before we get into the details of
why you were joining me today, Laurie, can you tell
us more about Colorado Parent Advocacy Network, how it started,
how you became a part of the driving force behind it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Several years ago, during the twenty twenty pandemic, our two
children were in Cherry Creek schools and started to come
home when they were going back to school in small
cohorts masks. You remember that really fun time, and they
were telling us stories that were really alarming to us.
And our daughter Jenny, who was eleven at the time,
shared the story with us that her friend Stella was
(03:58):
now going to be River, and River was going to
use his hymn pronouns and use the boys room. Now,
this was four years ago and the transgender craze had
not begun yet, and so I clearly thought Jenny was wrong,
and I just I made a comment, thinking to myself,
I must have missed the email, and I said, oh,
that's really progressive of River's parents to ask the school
(04:19):
to do a workshop. I had never heard.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Of such a thing.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And Jenny looked at me and she said, oh no,
Mommy River goes home every day as a girl. His
parents have no idea. And so that was, you know,
kind of a huge alarm bell for me, and you know,
I did genuinely think that she was mistaken.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then our son came home, who.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
At the time was in eighth grade, and she asked
me for help on an assignment. And the assignment was
why is your favorite hobby racist?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Why?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
And in the ruber to get full points, he had
to write the phrase racist against people of color. And
our son had started the project and he built an
organization called LYFT to fight racism in skiing. Skiing it's
a say hobby. And when I read through it, and
I looked at Chris and I said, you'll get an
F on this paper before you lie. He looked at
(05:07):
me and he said, you don't understand, mom. I have
to think one way at home in another way at school.
And at the time, I'm a speech pathologist. I'd been
in private practice for two decades and I just started
doing what any parently do start calling the teachers.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I thought we must have an activist.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, it was that time where our country was
so divided, it was chaos.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And I quickly learned that it was far beyond.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
My child's teachers, and it went all the way up
to the Board of Education in Trey Creek and district administration.
And so I started to do investigations, go to school
board meetings with getting nowhere and realized that this was
a pervasive problem. And thankfully I got connected to some
really great people at the state level here people I'm
(05:55):
sure you know over at the Independence Institute, with Tim
Benina who was the director of education seat there.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And the honorable Bill Cadmu and you know, people that
are then in the.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Education arena for years. And I then was fortunately connected
to doctor Alvida King, and she is, as many of
your listeners probably know, doctor Martin Luther King Junior's niece.
And we got on the phone and she said, you know,
I think what you really need to do is make
this a statewide organization, not just focusing on Cherry Creek,
(06:27):
but really bringing it out to a statewide and we
launched a November of twenty twenty two, doctor Alvida King
was our keynote speaker, and since that time we have
just been non stop holding schools accountable, helping parents. We
are fostering restoring the parents' voice in education and their
(06:48):
authority to direct the upbringing and development of their children.
And so the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network is doing great things.
In the last ten months, we have facilitated had three
major lawsuits and two lawsuits that are kind of more local.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Here.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We are exposing information in the media and that's one
of the reasons why I came to join you today
because we're helping a family, a mom down in Durango,
and we've been working with Cindy, this mom since November.
She's submitted an INTI report via our website at Coloradoparents
dot org. And this tool allows parents, students, teachers to
(07:31):
report concerns and issues and for CPN to then help
them advocate to resolve those issues. And we have a
variety of issues that come in. Right now, I have
fifty eight incident reports on my desk. Cindy's has been
one of them since November, and we've bene with her
every step of the way, and today we were able
to get her story published with the Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It really is remarkable the work that you've done to
get it to this point, but then the Daily Wire
taking it running with it, getting into great detail. And
this is going to sound shockingly familiar to those in
this audience that have been following the work that we've
done on this program with Lindsay Dadko, jeffco Kids. First
with Aaron Lee, the parent of a former Puter School
(08:16):
district girl who was indoctrinated via what was described as
an after school art club into becoming and identifying as trans.
This is an adoctrination, This is grooming taking place. This
is administrators and teachers and staff inserting themselves into the
relationship that should be sacricync to a family between parents
(08:38):
and children, that should be prioritized, that should be deferred to,
but instead is being replaced by these schools. And I
want to hone in on a particular detail putting together
pieces of the puzzle that you just provided for us
and our audience here, Laurie, and again you can find
out more follow them on x at Seapan Colorado. That's
Colorado parent advocacy work. You use the word family. You
(09:02):
also mentioned the cherry Creek School District, and I picked
up on a video this is a different topic, but
a similar vein in the superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools,
Christopher Smith, getting very emotional on a video as it
pertained to students who may have illegal status and they're
being ice ray, deportations, etc. But that's kind of a
(09:25):
side issue to this main detail, which was he kept
referring to the student body, the teachers, the entire culture
and atmosphere at Cherry Creek Schools as a family. And
to me, Laurie, that is a big red flag that
a school system would refer to itself as a family
when the vast majority of these students, if not close
(09:47):
to all, have their own families and it's not at
the school.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, let there be no mistakes.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The public school district in Cherry Creek, in Jefferson County
and Poter, in school districts across the state, Adams Aurora,
they all believe that they know better than the parents,
and they are undermining parental authority and they are teaching
children through programs that are embedded with critical race theory
(10:18):
DEI diversity equity inclusion initiatives. We call that uppercase DEI,
because it's been completely hijacked social emotional learning, where they're
fundamentally changing the morals and values that we the parents
and still in our children. And I encourage your listeners
you need to do a social media deep dive on
(10:40):
your children's teachers, and you need to talk with your
children about warning signs because as parents, we don't really
realize that a lot of people don't really realize this
is happening in our schools that the public school thanks
to Governor Poll is signing an April of twenty twenty
three Build twenty four nine non legal name changes. It
(11:04):
allows public schools to transition your child socially behind your back,
and the schools have been doing this for years. We
have evidence from Cherry Creek, Jefferson County, all over the
state where they have these gender support transition plans.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So if a child goes.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
To quote unquote a trusted adult, a trusted teacher, and
by the way, anybody that self identifies as a trust adult,
you need to tell your kid that's not a trusted adult.
George Mama in Jefferson County, former child crime investigator, helped
us do an investigation back in October of twenty three,
exposing the Colorado Crisis line and also in their attempts
(11:47):
to groom children.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It is pervasive.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It is everywhere, and on our website we do have
a parent's tab, So our whole focus we want to
help the parents. We want parents to be the best advocates.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Want parents to.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Know that they have to take their authority back from
the schools, and we've got some great resources to help
them have conversations with their kids about all these different topics.
You know, not just around the gender ideology craze it's
totally out of control in DEI, but also about drugs
and safety and a variety of issues that our schools are.
(12:22):
It's just they're infested with problems. And in the state
of Colorado. You know, I when I hear Chris cry
about money the Cherry Creek superintendent, or cry about you know,
ice that's not even coming into the school, it infuriates me.
Here we have a man that's making upwards of a
half a million dollars in salary and benefits and he's
(12:43):
crying about the lots of money. We have an administrative
bloat that is huge in public schools. What they need
to do is they need to streamline the administration and
get our kids reading, writing, and doing math at grade levels.
Over fifty percent of kids in the state of Colorado
are not proficient in any of those areas, and it
(13:04):
is a crisis. It's a crisis, and we need families
to really understand what's happening and know that they're focusing
more on changing your child's morals and values than they
aren't teaching your child how to read and to have
a successful future.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Find out more of their website. As you mentioned, Coloradoparents
dot org. Lori Gimmelstein our guest in helping spearhead this investigation,
which is chilling, and it is an echo of what
we've heard before. And I just think to what Laurie
is saying regarding her son having to conform to this ideology,
this mindset, this cult and be a different person at
(13:41):
school than he is at home. It's a star chamber,
it's thunderdome. I can only imagine what these kids are
going through. And that's just those are just the ones
that are trying to get by. Then there was this
my read Elordie in pardon me if I'm not saying
her name correctly, but for Daily Wire. It's entitled the
following LGBT to his teacher trans husband, how's minor teen
(14:03):
girl in Colorado? Against mom's wishes? Subheading, she says, quote,
I just can't stress to you enough how floored I
am that this woman has gotten away with what she has.
There was also an encounter with law enforcement, and this
has been a trend and a theme as well when
we look at Columbine High School and the principle there
(14:24):
in Scott Christy just kind of don't ask, don't tell.
It's just a gay person or couple doing their thing,
or in this case it's a trans thing. I don't
want to get involved. And that's apparently what law enforcement
did here. There was a wellness check going back now
to January five, and the police were called by the
(14:46):
mother and two deputies with the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office
responded and the following on a video was captured. Quote basically,
as long as I know that everybody's okay, that's really
the extent of law enforcement involvement, you know what I mean.
I don't know. I don't know what else to say,
said one deputy to both Smotherman's these This is the
couple I described in the title of this story. He
(15:08):
was on their porch when he arrived. We get it.
He's just incredibly terrified right now because of everything that
they've been through. Using male pronouns for a female student.
The student is seventeen years old, still a minor. Still
a minor, mind you, but she's been taken leam Neeson
style from her mother, from her parents, into this household
that is, shall we say, a house of very fluid morals.
(15:32):
And I just don't see why the default position, whether
it's law enforcement or the school systems themselves, Laurie, is
not you know what, we are going to default to
the parents and defer to their knowledge of their own
child that they have raised since birth. That is not
the case. The opposite is the case. They assume the
parents do not have the child's best interest in mind,
and that's where they step in.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Absolutely, and you know, quite honestly, we're going to be
talking more about this and releasing it from on our
social media platforms, and we actually uh. Cindy, the mom
filed an incident report with CPM back in November, and
at that time her daughter had run away from home.
So this was before we got to January fifth, and
(16:17):
her daughter.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Was still living at home.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
She ran away. Mom didn't know where she was. It
took two days for the mom to find out, you know,
that she you know, was you know, basically staying at
a friend's house. And interestingly enough, when mom showed up
and the police were on scene, this teacher also showed
up on scene, and the police wouldn't let the mom
talk with a daughter, but gave the teacher, her former teacher,
(16:42):
former mouth teacher, permission to talk with Cindy's daughter, And
that was really shocking. And and during that time when
she was talking with this teacher, uh, the daughter actually
ended up telling the police that that she felt suicidal
and that she and so the teacher was was coaching her.
We suspect to say these things so that she wouldn't
(17:03):
have to be returned back home. And after a very
long and very complex situation that we were navigating back
in Nordmember around this and the daughter having to go
for a mental health stay and then being returned and
CPS getting involved, and essentially CPS came and did an
interview and allowed the daughter to come home under the
(17:26):
conditions that mom would give her two locations to go
to in the event that her daughter felt unsafe. And
let's define what unfaith is. Unsafe is your parents parenting you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
This is not abuse.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's not abused. For your parents to have a conversation
with you, or to be disappointed in you, or to
you know, tell you that you know you're going down
the wrong track. That is what we are as parents.
We have to guide our children's development. That's what we've
been charged.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
With to do.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And so Cynthia agreed to this and said I will
absolutely agree with us. In addition, CPS wrote in their
report that Cindy was responsible for her daughter feeling suicidal
because she would not affirm her gender change and wrote
several recommendations on that you must do this, connecting them
(18:20):
to Rainbow Resources to better support her daughter. And you know,
now her daughter's home. Cindy's just happy she's home. She's
she's so grateful she's safe. She didn't know what was
happening for a couple of days. And then right before Christmas,
we get I get a phone call and Cindy's like,
(18:40):
I don't know where she went. We had an argument,
she left. I assumed she was going to one of
the two places we agree to in CPS, and she
wasn't there and she didn't know where she was, and
so we we filed an official runaway report with the
deputy Lasada County Deputy Sheriff's.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Office, and.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
We didn't hear back.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The deputy said we're going to follow this to ground.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
The deputy was the one who used the term harboring.
If this teacher has this child without the parents' permission,
she is harboring. That's how that is against the law.
We heard nothing back from the deputy. And then three
days later, Study emailed the deputy and he wrote.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Back, Oh, I tried to call.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You, but it wouldn't go through. We removed the runaway report.
Your daughter's fine. And so we did some email communications
that we are going to be releasing over the next
couple of days with Philipplada County Deputy and ultimately what
he said is we're not going to do anything. You
are more than welcome to go get your daughter. And
so on January fifth, CPAN helped Sydney could of coordinate
(19:49):
efforts to go retrieve her daughter.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Now she's being put into.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
A very difficult situation in the middle of nowhere in
Durango where these people live that are harboring her daughter.
And you know, we basically got recording, We got friends
to go with her. We coached her on you know
what what she needed to do, you know, don't go
on to property. Make a phone call, and she did.
She called, she called Joanne's mother. Man, we have all
(20:14):
the recordings that we're all we're going to be releasing
these as well. And she said, listen, my daughter doesn't
have permission to be in your home. I'd like you
to encourage her to pack up her things and encourage
her to come out willingly. And the response from this teacher,
this former teacher that worked at Durango High School and
now works at Durrango Adult Education Center, said, I'm calling
(20:37):
on Onyx's lawyer.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Okay, so what did Cindy do?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
She called nine to one one. This woman is harboring
her child, someone that has groomed her child to believe
that she was born in the wrong body, that she's
actually a boy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And this child has several comorbids.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Of ease, if you will, in terms of diagnoses that
make her very vulnerable. And when this relationship between Joanne
Smotherman and her daughter began. Uh mom was diagnosed with
cancer and was going to very significant, very hard chemotherapy
and very aggressive and it was a very difficult time
(21:21):
for the family. And that is when this teacher kind
of just befriended this child. And now we have a
situation where this this teacher has assumed authority over over
this this vulnerable child, and this mom is left with nothing.
(21:43):
No one will help her, the school, the school counselor CPS,
and the police. The only group standing with her is
the Colorado Care and Advocacy Network And we are so
grateful that we have a we're all all volunteer network, Ryan,
and we have the best of the best people in
Colorado coming together with organizations like Protect Kids Colorado, Jessco,
(22:06):
Kids First, Task Force, Freedom, all of us. We're all
working together, Gaves against Groomers, and we're going to stop this.
We are here to protect Colorado's children and their families.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Laurie Gimmelstein doing the good work, as she mentioned, in
concert with those other organizations that are also doing I
call it the Lord's work for these children that are misguided.
This seventeen year old girl who now identifies as a boy,
uses the name Onyx that we just heard has been
diagnosed with autism ADHD and eating disorder, depression and anxiety.
(22:40):
This is a disturbed young person who has been enabled
in this fantasy by two adults that do not have
this individual's best interest at heart. Her mother does and
when you look at the details in this article, I'm
going to send this to Sheriff Steve Reems in Weld County.
This is a total abdication of duty by the Laplata
Deputies and the Sheriff's office. Here the quotes here, and
(23:02):
they are captured on video. These are not made up.
They are galling, they are chilling, and they are completely
again derelict in their duty of protecting this young person
and protecting a mother in this instance, in this confrontation,
it is sickening and you can find out more at
Daily Wire. I am reaching out to the reporter in
(23:23):
this as well. May read a Lordie and it's entitled
LGBT activist teacher trans husband, How's minor teen girl in
Colorado against mom's wishes? There will be more to come
on this story. Laurie will definitely be looking forward to
talking to you about it. Thank you so much. For
sharing your time and perspective with us here today.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Thank you, Ryan, have a great afternoon, all.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Right, well not so great after that, but hopefully better
from here your thoughts five seven seven three nine. And
you can follow the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network and I
would strongly recommend that you do so on x at
seapan CPAN Colorado in their website Coloradoparents dot org. Along
in that segment, we're back with more after this on
Ryan Schuling Life. I'm still trying to really process that
(24:11):
conversation we just had Lori Gimmelstein and her kid in
Cherry Creek Schools, and I want to bring Kelly cachera
in because her children also attended Cherokee Trail within Cherry
Creek Schools. And I'm not sure how carefully you were
able to listen there, Kelly about Laurie was describing regarding
her son, saying, Mom, I got to turn in this
(24:33):
project and do as I'm told and be a totally
different person at school than I am here at home.
Did you hear similar things from Trevor Or Haley about
projects they had to work on, assignments they were given.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, but a lot of it's surrounding climate change. That
was the big It's.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Still a form of indoctrination, but still a politicization of
the classroom that should not be happening. I know that
a lot of my teachers, going back to my days
at Grass Lake High School or my days at Central
Michigan University, a vast majority were liberal. I knew that, Yeah,
but I did not feel and I would, I swear
to you in my audience into Kelly and to Zach
(25:10):
if I did encounter that, I would say something, I
would talk about it. That didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I encountered it a little bit. At Purdue.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
One of my classes was political theory, right, and we
had to be assigned to read uh first in the
Balance by Al Gore.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, and the planet's supposed to not exist by twenty ten, Right,
wasn't that the prediction? Yeah, well, twenty ten, we're all
supposed to be melted away here.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But again, the class is called political theory.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I had a political science teacher at Jackson Community College
where I played baseball, who here and there? He'd say things, well,
you know, tricky dick talking about Richard Nixon. I was
like a ha ha, But he didn't really get into it.
I felt I had agency. I could decide for myself. Yeah,
which way I was going to go, and politically or otherwise.
I wasn't told what to think, Kelly, And that's what
(26:06):
I'm hearing here.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
So when my kids matriculated through Cherry Creek, a lot
of it was in doctrination about climate change and you know,
teachers inserting their politics, you know, Barack Obama and those
types of things. Yeah, which is fine whatever, everybody has
an opinion. It didn't it hadn't really started to transition yet,
(26:33):
you know, for lack of a better word, into.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All of this.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Really weird indoctrination of kids' sex lives. Yes, and they're appropriate, Yes,
And so Haley still has some friends that go to
the school, and that does go on at Cherry Kee Trow.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
There are a few teachers that are.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Quote unquote safe to tell and Arne, it didn't happen
in our situation to keep.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Secrets from your parents. I don't like that. I don't
like that premise. No, and that's not the role of
a teacher. If you fear for the student's safety, leave
it to the experts. Have child protective services come in
do an investigation. The mother of the Columbine High school
student was inviting that, say, come check everything. She's got
a great home life here. I love her as a
(27:29):
mother unconditionally. Well, leave it to the experts. Do not
place yourself in a position of God where you're the
ones thinking you know best for what the children and
the parents know nothing and they're left in the dark.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Kelly, and your conversation with Laurie was equally as disturbing
as talking, you know, with the Durango parent who literally
lost her daughter.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And I want to pause you right there because we've
got to go to break. And I went along in
the previous segment. I sent the story to Weld County
Sheriff's Steve Reams are a good friend who filled in
for Dan last week. I'm going to read directly. This
is from bodycam video footage, so these are not embellished
quotes from what the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office deputies did.
And the sheriff of Wild County just responded with the
(28:15):
following after reviewing what they said. I think the law
enforcement folks completely fed this up. Sheriff Steve Reams time
out and I'll read you what he believes represents that
f up when we come back. This is another stunning story.
You can find it Daily Wire. There is an epidemic
of this in Colorado and it's completely intentional and deliberate,
(28:40):
and it is hostile toward parents and it needs to stop.
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The z maneing on the other side of the glass.
Your texts in a moment five seven seven three nine.
But I want to make sure I bring you this
from the Daily Wire article that dropped today myriad a lordie,
(31:10):
LGBT activist teacher and trans husband. How's minor teen girl
in Colorado? Against mom's wishes. I'm just going to get
to the quotes here pulled from the article and most
of it directly from police bodycam footage. Again, none of
this is embellished and none of this is truncated. Now,
the mother in this incident, named Cynthia Stein told Daily
(31:35):
Wires Smotherman, this is one of the couple that was aforementioned.
The LGBT activist teacher and the trans husband stepped in
and took advantage of my kid. She's just inserted herself
into my family and I still can't get her out.
It's a virus, that's my added a quote to that.
I just can't stress to you enough how Florida I am.
(31:56):
That this woman has gotten away what she has, and
that there's nothing I can do to make it right
or hold her accountable for the article. On November two,
of the teen ran away from home after her mother
told her they were moving to Denver to be in
her family and to put some distance between the teen
and local influences. Law enforcement and child protective services got involved,
and the child ultimately went home to her mother. However,
(32:18):
the girl left home again on December twenty one after
a fight with her mother. This time she went straight
to the smotherman's house. Her mother later discovered, although she
initially did not know where her daughter was, and filed
a runaway report with the police. Then January five, Stein
went with two friends at the smotherman's house and tried
to retrieve her daughter. Steyn called the police, and two
deputies with the Laplatta County Sheriff's Office responded and conducted
(32:42):
what was I guess in air quotes a welfare check
on her daughter. Quote basically, as long as I know
that everybody's okay, that's really the extent of law enforcement involvement.
You know what I mean. I don't know. I don't
know what else to say. One deputy told both smothermans
on the porch as he arrived. WE get it. He's
just incredibly terrified right now because of everything that they've
(33:02):
been through. Vivian responded, using male pronouns for the biological girl.
The officer went inside and asked the teen how she was,
and she responded, I'm good. How are you good? That's
all I needed to basically hear, the officer said, adding later,
you don't appear to be in distress. I don't want
to put words in your mouth. The teen responded, no,
not until my mom showed up. I was totally fine.
(33:23):
I was having fun. The officer then said, I mean, yes,
by legal standard, you're technically a minor as a seventeen
year old, telling her that quote, as long as you're
not being held against your will or kidnapped or anything
awful like that. Things get a little more complicated when
we hit seventeen years old and have the ability to
drive and go places and make decisions about who we
(33:43):
hang out with. Question for the deputy. If this is
a seventeen year old girl checking up with an adult
teacher male, would you respond the same way and don't
tell me yes because you wouldn't. Absolute polutely ridiculous incoherent
(34:04):
response from the sheriff's deputies here embarrassing for La Plata.
The officer said the following, I appreciate your willingness to
I don't know. I guess helped me check boxes. He's
just along for the ride. You know, he's a second
having a good time. He's seventeen, seventeen eighteen. Who was
(34:24):
counting your mind? Or that gets worse? It gets worse, folks.
And this was an exchange between see. The other officer
was speaking with Vivian outside about how the team ended
up at the Smothermans. The team claimed her mother kicked
her out, but her mother said that while they didn't
have a fight, she never meant to kick her daughter out.
The officer then asked, he got kicked out and now
(34:46):
they want him back. Joeanne Smotherman said he has not
been told by his parents to come back. This is
biological girl, by the way, still the officer said, well,
it seems like they want him back now. No, this
is BARTI fIF type crap right here. The smother Wins
also informed the officers the team was a couple of
months away from turning eighteen. The first officer said, using
(35:06):
air quotes, certainly not what I would consider a child
or tea. I mean, smotherman, the trans identifying Democrat activists
told the cops he absolutely does not want the teen's
mother coming out of his property, and as the officers
walked to their cars, the first officer told his partner,
(35:26):
probably going to have to speak with them, referring to
the teen's mom and her friends. The second officer said, yeah,
they're going to have a meltdown exactly. The first officer responded,
laughing back. At the bottom of the driveway, Stein told
the deputies, quote, she is a miner. I don't care
if she's a day away from eighteen. A miner is
(35:46):
a miner, and she does not have my permission to
be here. The first officer told her that quote, minor
and child are different, and the situation was on a
civil level and quote does not rise to the level
law enforcement involvement. So I'm sorry you're telling me that
you're not going to Stein began the officer respotted physically
ripper out of that home. Yeah, no, we're not going
(36:08):
to do that. Folks. This was the conduct of the
Laplata Sheriff's deputies in response to this incident. Is that
acceptable to you? Is that how you want your sheriff's
deputies handling a situation like this, with this kind of
glib sense of humor and lack of seriousness. What is
(36:31):
this crap? If you work in law enforcement, I'd be
good a response, as I mentioned from Sheriff Steve Reams. I, Kelly,
can you imagine how Sheriff Steve Reams would handle this
if he got win that his deputies behaved in this
manner and said these things certainly not like that, They'd
be gone, Uh huh, They'd be done. It'd be over.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
And if anyone in his department actually pulled that, if
they would be disciplined and probably brought up on You know,
I'm written up for something.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
There would have been something.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
There would be consequences. This is what's going on, folks
in the state of Colorado. It is far from an
isolated incident. We all know that in this audience and
we will continue to cover it until it's logical conclusion,
which is rooting out this type of grooming behavior in
adults who should know better, and they do know better,
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