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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A few short months ago, I became chairman of the
Kennedy Center and we completely reversed it. We reversed what
was happening.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We ended the woke.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Political programming, and we're restoring the Kennedy Center as the
premier venue for performing arts anywhere in the country, anywhere
in the world. This has the potential to be anywhere
in the world. We're going to make it something that
people can't even believe. We have some unbelievable plans, and
ultimately it's about the talent.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You get there.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You know, you can have a beautiful you can have
a beautiful building, you can have nice marble walls, you
can have nicely done columns as I was saying, but
if you don't have the talent on the stage, and
we're going to get the best talent in the world
to that end of the world renowned musical Lemiz had
a phenomenal five weeks sold out run this summer. Beat
(00:48):
projected revenues by thirty five percent, and we've raised over
ten million dollars in private funds from a lot of
generous owners.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
President Trump. In the Kennedy Center Award honorees which are
as follows, George straight course country music legend that he
is the band Kiss, and no, it does not stand
for kids in Satan's service, like a lot of the
evangelicals were claiming back in the eighties, I love Kiss.
My first Halloween costume was a Gene Simmons mask circa
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nineteen seventy eight. I was four years old and we
had that mask for a very long time. And whenever
I see Happy Gilmour and the grandmother wearing that mask,
that's what I was folloween. So they're being honored. Michael
Crawford as well, noted actor in his own right, Gloria
Gaynor I will Survive, and Sylvester still One. I pulled
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a few a few of the clips of President Trump
introducing announcing those and they're pretty humorous in and of themselves.
But he also added to the comments that you just
heard we ended the woke political programming, restoring the Kennedy
Center as the premier venue for the performing arts, and
he noted the budget shortfall that was in placemed that,
(02:01):
and they're going to have renovations for the Kennedy Center itself.
You know how he's so concerned with the aesthetics. He
was talking about that you know, you talk about the
Oval Office, the gold that he likes to show, the
ballroom that he wants to create and have that privately funded.
But this was the one that got some on the
left into a little bit of a tizzy because they
can't take Trump anything other than at face value, Like
(02:23):
he's really serious about this, but he talks about hosting
the awards. I don't want to do that, thank you
very much.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
This is a very exciting project. We're going to do
something that will go rapidly, relatively and expensively, and we'll
make it better than it ever was. Frankly, it'll something
that people are going to be very proud of. Along
with the bigger picture, a place called Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That is the bigger win. And we'll talk about that
in a little while.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But let's talk about right now the Kennedy Center. And
I'm delighted to be here as we officially announced the
incredibly talented artists who will be celebrated later this year
at the twenty twenty five Kennedy Center Honors. It's going
to be a big evening. I've been asked to hosts.
(03:17):
They said, I'm the President of the United States, Are
you fools? Asking me to do that. Sir, you'll get
much higher ratings. I said, I don't care. I'm President
of the United said I won't do it. They said please,
and then Susie Well said to me, start rocking at
our horse. I said, okay, Susie'll do it. That's the
power she's got. But I just so, I have agreed
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to host. Do you believe what I have to do?
And I didn't want to do it. Okay, they're going
to say who insisted? I did not insist.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But I think it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Will be quite successful.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Actually, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I used to host the Apprentice finales that we did
rather well with that. I think we're going to do
very well because we have some great honorees, really great one.
Since nineteen seventy eight to Kennedy's Center, honors have been
among the most prestigious awards in the performing arts.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I wanted one.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I was never able to get one.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Actually, I would have taken it if they would have
called me. I waited and waited and waited, and I said,
you the hell with it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'll become chairman. I'll give myself an honor.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Maybe I'm going to honor next year, we'll honor Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, okay, Now let's start with Deborah flor Christ and
total you hear her laughing, Deborah. We know maybe because
we don't have Trump arrangements center, but we hear him.
We hear him riffing. Some of this is scripted, and
of course was he do. He goes off script and
rifts a little bit. And that was really funny about
wanting you awards.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You know, even his announcement is more entertaining the Academy
Awards had been for a long time. So I sit
there and what I think is fascinating about this that
the Kennedy Awards that are going to be presented in
December have usually been a more I don't know, I
want to say high brow, but kind of looking down
at everyone else. I really think that he has the
potential here, knowing he's an entertainer, he really is that
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that was his entertainer hat, not his president, you know,
changing the landscape of government hat. But there's a real
opportunity actually for this to become the replacement to the
Academy Awards. One of the things he talked about it
not being woke and the people that were chosen are
iconic for different reasons. You know, Sylvester Sloan is not
necessarily the most artistic actor that's ever been around, but
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he's iconic. But at the same time, you know you're
gonna actually finally have a program, and he hit the
nail on the head where people are not lectured to,
they're not taught down to, they're not treated as though
this is an opportunity for those in the Ivory Tower
of Entertainment to lecture every American about why they're wrong
and they're not woke enough. I think, you know, I
just think it's funny because his announcement is you know,
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really could put him in the running for a good host,
particularly compared to the most recent hosts of the Academy Awards.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I could not agree more. Total you have covered this
in the past. To talk to us a little bit
about that and what you feel the Trump effect might
be on it. Like Debridge just said, it's an amazing event.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And I used to cover a cocktail party. I believe
it happened the day before I heard that was timing.
Let me tell you every famous person on the planet
was in this room. I remember waiting to speak to
like George Lucas, Oprah Winfrey, Paul Simon, Jimmy Buffett, Wow Nicholson,
Billy Joel, it goes. It was amazing. There's an amazing,
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eclectic experience just to be there. It's in a major
award for sure. And by the way, you look at
these this this year's class. Why was Sylvester Stallone not
nominated until this year and not giving the award or
George Strait for example, Cass. I mean that's curious as well. Listen,
Stallone came out and endorsed Trump after the election, and
you say, oh, look at that. He's Stallone, He's a legend. Okay,
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he earned this the hard way. So there's that.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I think, listen, Trump is entertaining. I don't think he
should be the host because I think it's it's it
just it just swamps everything. And having said that, he
would even far more entertaining than like a Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm kind of a zebra on this. I'm looking forward.
I'm gonna watch it. I want to see what he does.
And he's gonna be riffing. He's gonna be Trump funny Trump,
which he's very good at. He's a showman. He wants
this to be a good show. I think he'll take
it seriously in that regard. But then we turned to
the media reaction to this, and we talk about the
late night wars and how late night talk shows have
kind of gone the way of the Dodo Bird and
(07:26):
why and why is that? And can Jimmy Fallon maybe
bounce back he had gutfell down. We talked about that
last week Colbert is going Away, Jimmy Kimmel sat down.
I think it was a podcast interview with Sarah Silverman
saying all these woke lecturing libs that are scolding, like
you're one of the brother talking about And then we
have Seth Myers. Now I'm gonna play this for you,
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for each of you to react for our listeners too.
But then I have a little bit of an important
tag on the other side, Seth Myers mocking Trump after
what you just heard Trump on the Kennedy Center Awards.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The Kennedy Center Honors have been among the most prestigious
awards in the performing arts.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I wanted one.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I was never able to get one this year.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Actually I would have taken if they would have called me.
I waited and waited and waited.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Oh you were waiting by the phone for a Kennedy
Center Award.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
What did you think you were going to.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Get it for?
Speaker 7 (08:19):
I mean, I know he thought he should have won
an Emmy for the Apprentice, But the Kennedy Center honor
is for performing artists who have contributed a lifetime to
the culture. Did you put it on an album we
don't know about? Were you in a fan called trumpet Wampa?
You haven't done anything for the arts. I mean, you're
still sat by the.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Phone saying, but I think this might be my ear.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
They don't get these.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Things out for dressing up as a garbage man and
dancing to YMCA, But this is what they really want.
They complained about participation trophies and then demand trophies for
not even participating in anything can go.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There's that home art. But I know I holda but
with Seth Myers in particular, what I want our audience
to know. Seth Myers was a primary writer for Saturday
Night Live in the two thousand They loved Donald Trumpy.
He hosted it when The Apprentice was at its peak,
ratings were pulling in revenue. It helped fuel and Fun.
Saturday Night Live, they wrote a fried chicken sketch for
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Donald Trump dressed in an all gold suit and guests
who appeared in that sketch with him as a chicken
dressed up Seth Meyers. So, I don't want to hear
it from Seth Myers as he tries to lampoon Trump, when, yeah,
Donald Trump was an entertainment icon of the two thousands.
There's no denying that, Deborah.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I just find it amazing when so called comedians, as
my air quotes, my radio air quotes, comedians have completely
lost their sense of humor. I mean, he is playing this,
Seth Myers was playing as though Donald Trump was seriously
sitting by his phone waiting no. In the meantime, what
he was actually doing was building a huge empire, running
for office, doing all of these other things. So if
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you can't hear humor, they really are actually tone deaf
to it. Now. It's why they can't even really identify it.
When do you only hear things through a political lens,
you cannot create humor, you cannot hear humor, and you
cannot appreciate humor. The President was joking about sitting by
the phone waiting, knowing it was an absurd thing, and
(10:15):
never expecting to ever get that award.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And that's the thing, Christian, the three of us know,
most of our audience knows it's self deprecating in its
own ways. I was waiting for the award. Everybody knows
I deserved it. He didn't mean it. But Seth Myers,
does he really take him literally? Or is he just
kind of taking liberties here?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I was really shocked by that clip, and I shouldn't
be shocked by anything that comes out of Seth Myers.
I'd be shocked if maybe laugh that would be alarming, indifferent.
I mean, what you just said never is perfect. It's
just so indicative of someone who's been broken, who just
can't accept reality, can process nuance or context. I actually
feel sad for Seth Myers. Cliplus, he'll be on the
(10:54):
unemployment line soon, so that's sad as well. But my god, listen,
what he said wasn't even funny, and I'm sure I
can't imagine his audience is out there thinking, yeah, Trump
was sitting by his phone waiting, and what does anyone
on planet Earth besides Seth Myers even begin to think
that it's absurd. It's I mean it's almost comic art like.
(11:15):
It's it's almost like they're doing like an Andy Kaufman
like stick where they've gone so so over forward yea,
that they can't even process reality.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's unbelievable. And again back in the two thousands, I
have a memory. I remember things. I remember Trump in
the eighties and the nineties. He was a big deal
and all these celebrity types loved him. All these celebrity
types wanted to be seen with him, Why to have
their photos taken with him? Whanted to be at the
same cocktail parties as him. Seth Meyers wrote sketches for
him in the two thousands. What happened, Deborah?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Oh, Well, the craziness that is our current situation. I mean,
it's really interesting. It's so sad to me, and I
agree with you on this, Christian. We got to a
point where certain people cannot see anything except through a
political lens, and that brings us to a point in
our culture where we can't enjoy the things that bring
us together, which should be things like Saturday Night Live,
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poking fun at both sides. I mean, Trump going on
in a gold chicken suit or whatever you said it
was that I don't remember. That's somebody able to laugh
at themselves and that should be good.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
As much as I did not agree with Joe Biden
or anything like that, there is an element where I
could still see his humanity, you know, and it's not
going to divide those who voted for them. If we
could cheer for the same football team, if we could
find other things like culture, that we could come around.
But it's you know, what's happened since then, We've gotten
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to an extremely polarized point.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And what the.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Good news is is I think the polarization is a
minority on either end of the spectrum, and the vast
majority of Americans know Donald Trump was joking. That's why,
by the way, he's about to be unemployed. Yeah, Christian,
not Trump, but Seth.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The reason maybe why Deborah doesn't remember the sketch. I
made this point before. That sketch has been leaded from
that season, steved because it's inconvenient, right. It shows Trump
and to Debra's point, his humanity, his humor and all
these other SNL cast members just yucking it up with him.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, there's some great stories behind the scenes that after
the twenty sixteen election, where SNL players are just crying
in a gasp.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Did we do this?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Did we cause him to win? That kind of thing.
By the way, just to your point, you mentioned that
people are tired of thelivization. Two words for you, the
one name Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, we look at what happened there.
The left went insane, and everyone else who is normal said,
it's just the genes. She's a pretty girl and she's
modeling for jeans. That's all it is. The poll said that,
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and Sidney Sweeney blessed her heart, didn't apologize, didn't backtrack,
didn't do that. I'm gonna be an ally. I'm so
sorry she did none of that. She just kept on
keeping on And that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Didn't you just do a basking Robinson too.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I haven't seen it yet. And she's real movies coming
out for her this weekend, next weekend coming soon, so
she's gonna be busy acting, which is the huge gun
Totin American lady was Alise this weekend.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Well in a military her brother's in the military, and
he posted something really great about how he has great
James too. I'm like, that's funny now that family actually
understands humor for goodness sake.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It's, you know, a little bit like the when Trump
used the term bloodbath a few months ago. It was
last year, I guess, just in a campaign, and it
was obviously he was economic, it was obviously he was
not calling for violence, and the media did the seth meyerstick. Yeah,
he said, hey, wait a minute, he's calling for a
blood bath. That's how dishonestly, are.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Very dishonest, and it makes people like me that might
have been in the middle on Trump. I think this
happened a debor two. You know what, Now I'm gonna
like him more because I know you're being dishonest and
he might not be perfect, he might not be whatever,
but I know who he is. He's the authentic article.
He's him. And this is interesting. Got some text coming in.
Ryan All wanted to be with him until he filed
for bankruptcy and was slammed by everyone. I remember that
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time too. But he's a venture capitalist. He made investments,
some of them banned out, some of them didn't. He
bounced back. He never lost all his liquid assets. I mean,
that is something that happens with somebody like him, that's
on that level, on that stage. Now there's another one here.
This is great Ryan. A lot of people used to
like Trump. What happened is ego exploded and he started
treating people like I got some news for you. He's
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always been that way. Are you nuts? Did you live
in the eighties? This guy was bombastic. He was over
the top. He was the excess of everything that signified
success in the nineteen eighties. Everybody wanted to be Trump
and then included his personality, and he treated people kind
of badly back then.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Well, what is interesting, though, is I think there are
two Trumps. From what I hear, because I do not
know him.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
He was believing or not my judget Miss America, which
is a whole nother story.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
But the reality is what I hear is that behind
the scenes he's actually a very kind person. The people
that actually worked for him in his corporations, of which
there were numerous people that were minorities and women, said
he was one of the best people to work for
his Then you know his external face, which is the showman,
is completely different. And I have mixed feelings. I did
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not like it when he said Carly Fiuri and I
was a horse face in the race. I mean that
bothered me, but at the same time he's this other person.
And I have to say one more thing about making
and losing money. The history of America is people who
took chances.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You know, created the railroads, created the.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Steel industry, made tons of money, lost it all, made
it again, because that's what it takes. So in any way,
to use that as a benchmark is not knowing history.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You got to dig a little bit, but if you
can find it. Judge Joe Brown, you might remember him
from his television show This Guy. He calls Balls and
Strikes and he doesn't mess around. And he told a
story about a guy he knew, a young black entrepreneur
that wanted to start a business and have some office
based on Wall Street at a time where black business
owners were not welcomed. Along those lines, Judge show Brown
connected in with Donald Trump. They had a meeting. Donald
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Trump asked him a bunch of questions, what are you
looking to do? What's going on here? Before he knew it,
Donald Trump had bankrolled his business and his space in
Trump Tower set him up. And that's not a story
that gets talked about. But Joe Brown talked about it,
and that's what Debra's talking about. Is as bombastic as
Trump is, he doesn't do that. You know, I gave
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this young person a break, and he doesn't really go
public with stuff like that. You know.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's one of the many reasons why I disliked the
movie The Apprentice that came out last year intense. I
saw that even though there are some there are some
good performances, there are some interesting scenes, but it went
out of its way to show that he was a
monster behind the scenes when the doors were closed, when
no one was looking in a way that just it
felt wrong and authornic like, Okay, he's bombastic, And like
I said, there were things I didn't you know, the
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McCain comments, you know, Ted Cruz early in that campaign,
I just griss, gross and unacceptable. And I still don't
like that he treats the presidency in a way where
you know, words matter and he could be so flippant.
I don't like that either. And those are all on
the table kind of good and the bad of Trump,
though you know exactly part of its amazing. But you know,
having said all that, he's not the monster. He's just
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not the monster, and there are so many examples. I
met Marlon Maples, his ex wife, on a red carpet
event a few months ago at mar A Lago and
I talked about how they were called is an anti Semitic,
so the usual attacks. It's like parts of our family
are Jewish. He's been nothing but supportive of that part
of the family. He's been wonderful. This is his ex
wife talking she should throw him under the under the
bus and he didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
And one I think that that Hollywood is also lost
along with that sense of humor, and I'm talking in
the general sense, is the ability to actually look at
individuals as fully complex human beings.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
You know, why was Thanos? If you're going to call
Trump a.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Villain, Thanos was one of the most interesting villains because
he was fully rounded. He believed he was doing good.
There was a positive side to him. Nobody is this
cookie cutter, complete villain or complete good guy.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And when you cannot see that and I did not.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
See the Apprentice movie, but of course they did that,
and of course, of what I know, that's not the truth.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There's the sexer Brian only Rosie O'Donnell ah, the art
of the Deal, and the art of timing. He was
really great, and that answer in that debate a time out.
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Speaker 8 (20:36):
We must use the language of values in covering the
world because the world is made up of that of
right and wrong, of love and hate.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And if you can't, as a journalist describe and perceive
those values at work, good and evil, then you can't.
You're really doing your job. You're collecting a paycheck, and
it was a pretty good one, but y'all really doing
your job.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Terry Moran, our leadoff hitter for a Friday Fool of
the Week, former ABC News reporter, and he was summarily
dismissed right after his sit down interview with Donald Trump,
and Trump had a great moment during that interview too.
The only reason we picture is I don't know you.
David Muhr was out, George Stefanopoulos was out. He didn't
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know Terry Moran, so we'd give him a shot in
Terry Moran. That's what he did. I'll start with you
on this one, Christian. The way he describes journalists that
they must use the language of values, right and wrong,
good and evil. Is that what a journalist should be doing.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I didn't hear the word truth in there. I only
took one official journalism class in college back in the day,
but I'm pretty sure we banded that word around a lot.
And I don't think he mentioned it here. That's a
little word salady, that's a little bit of Kamala style.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and Deborah, this is the same Terry Moran that
just admitted that the media was inherently biased in their
coverage Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
And I actually, earlier on I did take journalism, and
I was actually working with KMGH Channel seven here working
to be an anchor before I had temporary and sanity
went to Hollywood. But that was one of the last
times where there was true journalism, broadcast journalism, where the
understanding was what is the job of the press to
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present the facts and allow the listeners to come to
their own conclusions. What's stunning about this is I actually
think Terry believes this.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think he actually believes.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
The job of the media is to instruct the masses
what is right and wrong, what is morally good and
morally wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
That is not the job.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
The job is to provide the facts and not give
your viewpoint of.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Your worldview on this. So that's sad. I think he
actually believes it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, there needs to be a detachment in journalism if
we're going by that strict definition and terms Dever just
pointed out, and you remove yourself from that and you
let the facts speak for themselves and let them lead
wherever they go. It's kind of like being a detective
in a lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Well, and this is why a lot of times you
don't see stories covered because if it doesn't fit your
world view of right and wrong, then I'm not going
to highlight that because at the end of the day
of my job is to instruct the poor, unwashed masses.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
That doesn't really help them.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And that would explain why Terry Moran admitted that their
coverage of Trump was biased, but he would probably stand
behind that and say, hey, we had to determine what
was right and wrong, good and evil, and Donald Trump
was wrong and evil. He leads off, batting Second Senator
Chuck Schumer who might even be good enough to be
for the bat for the Yankees these days. Christian he
(23:37):
is the Democratic senator representing New York, and you know
he just strolls about the grounds in the Capital all
the time. I walk around all the time.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I wake up early in the morning sometimes and take
a nice walks. The sun is rising around some of
the capital and the other monuments and things.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And I feel perfectly safe. They're full of it. There.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Look, here's what they've done, aaron, plain and simple. Donald
Trump wants to distract. That's his game plan. It's been
his mo for his first term in the presidency and
now so he's trying to make this a distraction. What's
he trying to distract from? Well, a lot of things,
but above all Epstein.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh my god, Chris, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Oh can me stop the show? Because my eyes just
rolled out of my hand.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
If I came up, I have a witness to that.
That actually did just happen.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
My thoughts, mister Toto, I can't. I can't even this
whole Epstein thing. I mean, hey, check the polls. It's
not working, So try something else. Yeah, distraction, Epstein, those
two things are just not working now, please stop. And
also I'm pretty sure that Chuck Schumer doesn't just stroll
around DC without anyone besides him, like security guards or
officials or anyone else. That's what it's just him. It's
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just an elderly gentleman. But he's just taking a run
for that. He's probably running along the GW Parkway, maybe rollerblading,
and I've probably seen him in there multiple times. Met
What an absolute clown. And to look at his people
in DC who are living in fierce time, especially yes
the tougher neighborhoods, and of course ever neighborhood's become tougher now.
You know, I used to live in DC and I
remember Union Station was glorious. It was beautiful. I don't
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hang out there just to hang out there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It was so nice.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
From what I hear, now, it's homeless city.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
To do something.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, it's a shame. And I'm sure that isn't alone.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
We were just there at Union Stations a couple of
weeks ago, and if my husband wasn't with me, we
would not have been walking around that area. And Chuck
Schumer saying that to your point, Christian is like my
friend who lives in Beverly Hills, saying there were no
riots happening about Angeles and her little neck of the woods.
There wasn't. I'm sure Chuck Schumer is very far removed
from it. And once again they don't talk about facts,
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the fact that the DC police chief was just suspended
for falsifying how bad the crime really is.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Doesn't Chuck Schumer have an intern, someone in his inner
circle who is smart and trustworthy, Say, mister senator, please,
I understand what you're saying. You've got to understand x Y.
I mean, there's no one there. There's mean the bubble
is their base.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
It's all they want, their job, and.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Like Christians that we know, he goes around with the
security detail that's much different than the average person walking
around DC. Sticking on that topic, though, here's l. Sharpton MSNBC,
and I'll give you one guess what he's focused on
in his comments about Trump's crackdown on crime. It's race.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
I would also say, mister president, if you've named other
cities New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Oakland all cities with
black men, is that is that your calculus? Hey, mister president,
why you don't see people are hurting in the and
I named some cities.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That are white and say, let's go.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
In these cities. I'll meet you to them. Mister president,
why are you only having a segregated intervention a segregated intervention, Debra, Yes.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
If the segregation is based upon how many criminals there
are doing bad things to good people, then yes, those
are those Those are the cities that.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He's focused on.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
They always obfuscate and they try to obscure the real point.
The real point is it doesn't matter what race the
mayor or.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
The police chief of the city is.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
If their list is one of the most dangerous, which
he just listed all of these cities that are some
of the most dangerous and highest crime levels, that's what matters.
But when you can't see anything other than through the
lens of race, or you're intentionally trying to point that's
what it is. Those are the most dangerous cities. And
if he wants to help people who are being hurt,
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like you said, then look at the numbers, look at
the facts.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And Christian very ironically, the people that are harmed the
most by crime in these cities are law abiding black
African American residents in those cities.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Rever now is ignoring that Revernel is also like a
classic rock band. They're playing the hits. This is his hips,
this is what it does. This is why he's famous,
This is why we love him. He just plays the
race card like no one else can. It is embarrassing.
Like you said, it's people of color. They're dying in
these cities. They're the people dying. They're the ones in fear,
they're the ones suffering. And when they talk about defunding
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the police, who doesn't like that? The black people and
the brown people because they're being harmed by the crime
and they don't want that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
So that's Sherston's embarrassing. Sharpton's version of I'm going to
rock and roll all night yess they're from the greatest album.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
No, they're not in the same critory at all.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'm hoping my light is not going to be on
here at the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay, well, you know, Al Sharpton's one thing, But when
you have a seasoned, trained, informed journalist, anchored debate moderator
like Dana Bash of CNN, she cites what the most
violent moment in recent history in d C was, and
you get one guess as to what that was.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Just as we go to break I should note that
the most violent moment in recent history in DC was
January sixth, and it was an attack on the United
States Capitol by a lot of people who were doing
it in the name of Donald Trump. And it included
the people who were hurt, included members of law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Never mind all the carjackings, the murders, the burglaries, the
the robberies, the muggings, the rapes on the streets of DC.
Deborah Dana Bash is focused on January sixth.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, you know, here's the thing I always want to
preface by saying, anyone who does something violent, there are
laws and that should be addressed. And if you assault
a police officer, doesn't matter where it should be addressed.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But to try to.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Create some kind of moral equivalency between what happened there
and the people that are dying every single day.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Where was she when she.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Was talking about the young people that were leaving the
Holocaust Jewish Museum and were murdered when they were actually
working with people of other faith to try and bring
aid to the Middle East.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That was a hey crime, not a sound about it.
The actual statistics.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Of crime in DC, and if you really care about it,
wouldn't you be applauding improving the law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Total. That's the thing is they have to take the
opposite side from Trump. So if Trump's cracking down on crime,
crime must be a good thing.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
If President Trump said the puppies are cute, the left
would say the puppies are gross and offensive. And that's
see where we are in their rhetoric. They can't help themselves.
It is shocking. And by the way, Ashley Babbit died
on January sixth, shot by a cop, an investigation which
lasted maybe eight point two seconds, and they exonerated that.
I watched the video. Is just shocking. Not defending her
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doing whatever she did, but she was a young, slim
person who was shot I think of the neck and
just died almost instantly. Just disgusting. This whole January six Okay,
let me do this thing. It's a bad day. It
was a bad optics. I don't attack, you don't attact police.
Obviously obviously, obviously they've turned this into an absolute travesty
that the whole narrative around it isn't a joke. And
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good for Nick Sersey, by the way, an actor, director
or producer who's been really calling out this whole situation,
putting out documentaries and really risking everything because people don't
want to say, oh, I defend Well he's not defending it.
But you know what, the people who are there who
maybe wandered in when they opened the doors and have
their doors blasted in in the morning and having like
police people outside with guns and everything. It was disastrous,
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disastrous the overreaction to that and.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Brian Sicknick did not get hit in the head with
the fighter extinguisher, that's pure fiction. He died of a
stroke the next day, sadly but still not Yes January sixth.
So these are names that you know, Terry Moran, L. Sharpton,
Senator Chuck Schumer, Dana Bash. Here's one you maybe don't know,
and that is DC Police Chief Pamela Smith. Now, Deborah
mentioned that she's been suspended because if she was cooking
(31:30):
the books on crime numbers, but there's certain things that
she just doesn't see, doesn't know. It's a blind spot
for and this seems to be pretty basic.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Knows what the share of demand is now does that mean,
what was your cair bodies?
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Where?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
How does his work so at the executive order is clear?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Now that's only ten seconds. Let me illustrate since you
couldn't see it, what happened there? A reporter asked, can
you tell us what the chain of command is now
that Donald Trump has set in federal reinforcements for law enforcement?
She responds, Pamela Smith, DC police chief, what does that mean?
Mural bowser. The mayor goes, okay, you're done here over.
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I mean, the optics of this toto just insane.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
The e I didn't I mean, my gosh, what did
I mean? I would have my resignation the next day.
I'm so sorry. I embarrassed the city. I'm sure she
won't do anything close to that. That isn't great, And
that's the kind of clip that should be on Stewart Show,
John Stewart and all the all the late nights, just
mocking her into oblivion. But they can't because she's a
person of color and she's going to assume a Democrat.
(32:37):
I don't know, I'm going to play the odds there,
but it makes that city and that that whole organization
look terrible.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
She was actually the d I chief within the department
for that. But what does that mean, Deborah.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Oh, exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
That sums it all up, because I would like to
ask her, what does it mean to actually control crime?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
What does that mean to be the police chief?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
What does that mean to actually give factual data on
what the actual crimes are in that city? You know,
it's unfortunate because once again, the biggest, one of the
saddest parts of DEI is those people who do just
happen to be of color, do just happen to be
women who are excellent at what they do, they are
now viewed as.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Oh, I guess that's why they were hired. That's not right.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
I believe in meritocracy and for goodness sake, when you
have a job like police chief, where there's actual data
to show whether or not you're doing your job, that's
the only thing you should be hired over.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay, We're going to get these two time to think
about it and you during the break. We'll have our
results at the end of the show. But your nominees
once again, former ABC News reporter Terry Moran, Senator Chuck Schumer,
Al Sharpton MSNBC playing the race card as always, Dana
Bash for CNN and DC Police Chief Pamela Smith have
at it five seven, seven, three nine, and we're back
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The Right Side of Hollywood, Deborah Flora and Christian Toto.
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We're going to get their votes right now this one.
How about this text five seven seventh three nine. Toto
is on a roll. Oh I like that. I like
my mom listens. That's amazing. I love you. But we'll
get your votes coming in five seven seventh three nine.
We'll start with mister Toto of the five who you're
going with?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And why wow, it gets tough for every week. I
want a week to be where there's like two or
one and like we couldn't barely find one, and we
never do that. Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer is a winner.
I just it just so out of touch, so inauthentic
and he should know better. He just should know better.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Deborah, Well, you know what, they're all winners or losers.
However we want to phrase that this week, but I
have to say Terry Moran for this reason, he's actually
teaching future journalists when he's talking about this, and many
of the problems that we've seen in our other nominees
is because the facts aren't getting out there. The media
was always supposed to be the unbiased watchdogs, and the
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American people actually had information. So I'm sorry he's taking
down a next generation. So he gets my vote.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, those are their two votes. Yours count just as much.
One person, one vote. We don't stuff the ballot boxes around.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's not what we do election integrity, Kelly pa CHERI.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Will be totaling those up by the end. And we
got a couple more texts to get to here, Ryan,
I miss walking around DC, hiking along the Cno Canal
up into Maryland and back fishing at Fletcher's boat house
on the Potomac, the restaurants and people watching in Georgetown
next to the long stone steps of the Exorcistant movie.
That's very vivid description. Christian, you remember all that I.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Remember all that. Also, Halloween in Georgetown was amazing. Just
walking around the sidewalks were just chalk a block with
crazy people. It was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
What is your kind of outstanding memory you'd just been there.
You mentioned debrah about Washington, d C. And what makes
it great, But then what concerns you the most?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Absolutely, I think the thing that I you know, DC
should not be a state.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
First of all, let's just be really clear. It's supposed
to be.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
A you know, one hundred mile square foot one hundred
mile squared piece of land because that is where we
keep our government, we keep our treasures, we keep our
founding documents. The thing that troubles me about it, because
I love going there for all of that is the crime,
the ability for things to come in. I do think
there should be federal law enforcement there because it is
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the seat of our federal government and it deserves a protection.
When I go into the Smithsonian or I go into
the National Archives and see our Declaration of Independence, I
want to know it is better security, sorry Al Sharpton,
than Oakland or Chicago. I want to know it is
safe and it needs to be preserve from the next generation.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's so important. I was there for the inauguration. I
had a great time. Security was an all time high, obviously,
so that was niptuck. But just walking around and seeing
the monuments, and I went to the Lincoln Memorial, the
Jefferson Memorial. You know obviously that the mall and everything
that goes with it. There's such beauty there, such purity there.
But Donald Trump was right, and he has such reverence
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for our history and for the very documents and the
things that signify our founding. As you state, Deborah, that
it didn't surprise me one bit that he wanted to
send in federal reinforcement. To this Texter's point, don't forget
to mention the DC Police Union is in full support
of Trump taking control. That tells you all the rank
of five, the boots on the ground, those men and
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women that are protecting and serving, putting their lives in
the line, are like, thank God for President Trump. Get
a telling you there you go, Christian total, Deborah Fluur.
I think to them as always stay around. We got
Miranda Devine coming out our number two. Next