September 26, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour of today's show, Ryan Schuiling is joined by Deborah Flora and Christian Toto to react to Jimmy Kimmel's return to the air, and break down the Fools of the Week.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And here we go. That's it.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We're going to jump live. I've got a lot of
stuff going on over here. It's a crazy day. Christian Toto,
Debrah flor R. Here, we've got audio galaur and let's
get right to it because we got a lot to
get to here. Five seven, seven, three nine, if you
want to take part in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And these were the select cold cuts.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And I use that term intentionally from the Jimmy Kimmel
monologue that he returned with on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now an update to all of this as well.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sinclair Stations have decided the corporation that runs those affiliates
that he will return to their affiliate airwaves as of tonight.
But this is what he opened with on Tuesday in
front of a record crowd in terms of ratings in
the audience, YouTube downloads, and views, all of that right here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I've been hearing a lot about what I need to
say and do tonight, and the truth is, I don't
think what I have to say is going to make
much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
If you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind, but I
do want to make something clear because it's important to
me as a human, and that is you understand that
it was never my intention to make light of the
murder of a young man.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I don't think there's only thing funny about it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I posted a message on Instagram of the dames killed,
sending love to his family and asking for compassion, and
I meant it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I still do, does he though, And I'm going to
illustrate why. I think that's a croc of you know what,
in just a moment. But Deborah Flora, you picked this clip,
so I'm going to turn to you for your analysis.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What did you think of that? Right out of the gate?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm not going to judge whether or not his tears
are real, but I don't know what the motivation is,
particularly because it could be what he's been.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Through in the last week or so.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
But the reality is when he says it was never
my intention to make light of Charlie Kirk's assassination, that's
exactly what he did. That is exactly what got him
in hot water. He made light of it and then
referred to President Trump's mourning of Charlie Kirk as a child,
warning a goldfish. So what the problem is He started
(02:02):
out the gate talking about his intentions, not talking about
what he actually did.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That's beginning of a false apology.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And in addition to that, let's look back at the timeline.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated on Wednesday, September tenth. Now, if
we take Jimmy at his word, very emotional there, did
not want to make light of a young man being
murdered in front of God and everybody on video, very graphically,
I might add, says that he posted on Instagram his thoughts,
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his prayers, his feelings, his emotions. Okay, that would have
been Wednesday night that we learned that Charlie Kirk was dead.
He puts that on Instagram. Okay, here is Jimmy Kimmel.
Five days later, on Monday, September fifteenth, when he went
to the airwaves as this part of his monologue, he
hit some new.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Lows over the weekend with the Maggie Gang desperately trying
to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything
other than one of them and everything they can.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To score a political point, and.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And so doing scoring political points himself for the left.
By deflecting blame and assigning it incorrectly and falsely. I
might add with a lie that the shooter of Charlie
Kirk was quote.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Unquote one of their own.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Where was the emotion right there, Christian from Jimmy Kimmel
on the death of Charlie Kirk, Well.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
There was emotion there.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
It was there was get him, let's make this, let's
make this way, we can attack Magga and Trump. It's
such a he's not He's not sorry. He didn't apologize.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, the tears.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Listen, we didn't have gatorade eye on standby with this guy.
He cries all the time, you know, man up. I mean,
he had a show called a man show of crying
out loud listen. If he was just you know, when
I discuss like Erica Kirk and once she said, I
get emotional because it's so profound and so sad and
so poignant. But what he was discussing at the time
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didn't seem like it would trigger a tear, you know
what I mean, Like what he was saying, the words
he was saying. I didn't mean to make light of that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's not what triggers it.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
It's something if I said, you know, Charlie Kirk is
a dad and a husband, and those kids don't have
a dad anymore. That would trigger something within me. But
what he said wasn't really a tearful. I'm kind of microanalyzing,
but mostly I'm doing it because he's jerk, and he
won't apologize, and he didn't really directly address what he said,
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and he didn't directly apologize what he said.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Those are weasel words.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
And he went back to doing the whole I hate
Trump and he's a monster and blah blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
For crying out loud.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
First of all, your late night talk show hosts, can
you at least try to make a joke and try
to be funny. He doesn't even bother with that anymore.
He really is just basically the MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The words are intentional. This was all prescripted. You had
to imagine a lot of thought went into this by
him and his writers, So every single word you have
to believe was deliberate. This was continuing on the cut
that Dever selected. Mister Toto, you selected this one, and
again listen very carefully, and a great phrase that Christian
just used weasel words nor was it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
My intention to blame any specific group for the actions
of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That was really the opposite of the point I was
trying to make.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But I understand that to some that felt either ill
timed or unclear, or maybe both. And for those who
think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset.
If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd
have felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Didn't mean to point a finger in a particular group.
One more time, one more time. I want people to
hear the direct contrast here.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We had some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Mega Gang trying to characterize Charlie Kirk's assasses anything other
than one of their own Christian that's pretty specific.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
You know, we live in this disgusting apology culture where
all these apologies are fake, fake, there's descripted.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know, Roseanne Barr sent out.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
That tweet and it was a gross tweet, and you
know she says you didn't know that the Valerie Jarra
was black, whatever, But he instantly apologized. That's the way
an apology works. If you fight with your spouse and
you say the wrong thing, oh gosh, I'm so sorry, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's what you do.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
That's an apology. So this whole apology culture is nonsense
from the start. But what he did is that complete,
inauthentic apology where he says, well, if you were offended,
you took it the wrong way. That is not an apology.
That's an escape clause.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm sorry for how you feel. This is your clip
right here, Debra.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I have many friends and family members on the other
side who I love and remain close to, even though
we don't agree on politics at all.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I don't think the murderer.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick
person who believed violence was a solution and it isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It ever, And also selfishly I am I.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Am a person who gets a lot of threats. I
get many ugly and scary threats against my life, my wife,
my kids, my coworkers because of what I choose to say.
And I know those threats don't come from the kind
of people on the right who I know and love.
So that's what I wanted to say on that subject.
But I don't want to make this about me because
and I know this is what people say when they
make things about them.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
But I really don't this show. This show is not important.
What is important is that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We get to live in a country that allows us.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
To have a show like this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, so you don't have a right to a show
like that on broadcast television, Jimmy, it's about ratings.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's a business.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He did make it about himself there, Deborah, and prior
to that, he even tries to absolve the left from
any responsibility for this shooter.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Oh without a jat.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I mean, it's exactly the point that a Christian was making.
As well, he does point out exactly who he was
blaming and what group he was pointing a finger at,
and he does not apologize even to the point of
saying what I said was wrong, what I said was incorrect.
It is an absolute obfuscation. The only true things that
(08:13):
he basically said in that clip was selfishly dot dot
dot dot, and that made about his own victimization.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
And then when he talked.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
About how you know he has people that he loves
and all that. I think the emotion honestly was well,
probably got called on the carpet lot and he was
crying more about it feels like how he has been
treated since this. The other thing he said is this
show is not important, but the self importance that people
(08:42):
in this position, including Stephen Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel
are putting these selves in, and the left is putting
them in as though they are the new crusaders for
the First Amendment. Everything is upside down in what he said,
and when someone cannot even say what I said was wrong,
(09:02):
I should not have done it and I will do
better into future.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Here's what I learned.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
That would have been an amazing moment in our culture,
and instead it was more of the same.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
She's Deborah Flora Christian Toto alongside breaking down the Jimmy
Kimmel monologue and whether it matters here because as a
brief aside, we're hearing from like Joe Scarborough, other members
of the media. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel gutt his best ratings ever,
keep track of the ratings ever since then and all
through next week is going to go right? Back to
what it was because there was no true, authentic apology here.
(09:32):
He did not try to bring people back into the
conversation who he has castigated, and that means every one
of us that are center right. He doesn't want us
watching his show. He doesn't want those ratings, I guess.
But this goes back now to a Toto clip here
about what his fellow comedians abroad told him.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Jimmy Kimmel, I have the opportunity to meet and spend
time with comedians and talk show hosts from countries like Russia,
countries in the Middle East who told me they would
get thrown in prison making fun of those in power
and worse than being throne imprisions.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
They know how lucky we are here.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Our freedom to speak is what they admire most about
this country.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And that's something I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
To say I took for granted until they pulled my
friend Steven off the air, Oh my god, and tried
to coerce the affiliates who run our show in the
cities that you live in to take my show off
the air. That's not legal, that's not American, that is
un American, and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Christian.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Where do I even start without cursing, where do I
even start? Well, he doesn't say boo about what's going
on in England where you put the wrong social media
post up, you got to knock on your door. He
didn't talk about the Twitter files, he didn't talk about
the bid. Literally the day earlier, the day where he
made this fake apology, there was a huge news story
and at Google apologizing for using censorship techniques that were
(10:51):
pressed upon them by the Biden administration. This guy is
the biggest phony fraud that you could possibly imagine. He
is absolutely absurd and wrapping himself from the first Amendment.
You don't deserve that, you don't get it. And by
the way, if this is Orange Man, bed what he does,
why do you let him back on the air in
a month?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Worst dictator ever? Clearly very bad dictator.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I'm still recovering on my social media platforms from
being downgraded. A listener alerted me through Matt Tayebi's reporting
that I was a part of the Twitter files because
of a comment I made about Antrim County in northwest
Lower Michigan looking like the results for flip turns out
I was right now, I didn't ascribe motor to that.
I just said the machines with something happened there, and
(11:31):
it did, but I still got downgraded and I got
totally soft shadow band for the longest time. And again
I'm still trying to recover from that. Here's Jimmy Kimmel again.
There's a sleight of hand going on here. Christian kind
of touched on it. But this would equate to what
I call a red herring argument about the government deciding
which programs we can watch or not watch.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Should the government be allowed to regulate which podcasts the
cell phone companies and Wi Fi providers are allowed to
let you download to make for they serve the public interest?
You think that sounds crazy. Ten years ago this sounded
crazy Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC, telling an
American company, we can do this the easy way or
the hard way, and that these companies can find ways
(12:15):
to change conduct and take action.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
On Kimmel or there's going to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Be additional work for the FCC ahead. In addition to
being a direct violation of the First Amendment, is not
a particularly intelligent threat to make in public. Ted Cruz
said he sounded like a mafioso.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Loough. I don't know. If you want to hear a mob.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Boss make a threat like that, you have to hide
a microphone in a deli and park outside in a
van with a tape recorder all night long. This genius
said it on a podcast. Brandon Carr is the most
embarrassing car Republicans have embraced since this one.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And that player us as a Trump wrapped Tesla must
have video.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
By the way, where was Jimmy when all those violence
was going on against Tesla dealerships?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Did he say any about the violence?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
No, it only counts if it's against their scill about it?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, well, deb this was your clip and it goes
back to the Telecom Act of ninety six and the
FCC and their role for over the air broadcast television
and radio. They play by a different set of rules
than the podcast platforms he mentioned. I do think and
suppose that Jimmy might not be smart enough to realize
the difference stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Well, you and I know, Ryan, after being on the
air for an extended period of time, there are certain
things that happen on the broadcast airwaves that are regulated
for certain reasons or recorded, which is important. I think
the thing is he takes what happened to him, and
once again this is him putting on the mantle of
being the champion for the First Amendment.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
And takes it way too far.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
What he also overlooks is the reason why he actually
was taken off the air was not because of Brendan Carr.
I do, by the way, I think Brendan Carr should
not have said what he said. The problem is is
that actually gave the left a reason to say, oh,
this is actually because the government is overreaching. I'm not
for that. What was happening was the way it should happen.
(14:08):
Next Star and Sinclair both took him off the air
because they have a right to do that as people
who own this franchise of outlets across the country, because
his comments did not represent their companies. That's the way
it should have been. He doesn't even talk about that,
or the fact that he was losing money. I do
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want to. I did want to mention this Brendan Carr, however,
because I do think unfortunately what could have been a
huge win for the free market system for ratings going down,
for people not wanting to hear this kind of trash,
became instead something that the left is obfuscating every other
element of what happened in the story to say it
was just about Brendan Carr and the FCC under the
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Trump administration that should not have happened. But what happened
before was completely a free market activity.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And that goes to the this clip that you wanted
us to highlight, mister Toto, and this is about Trump
and him being kind of the force behind this.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He was.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Somehow able to squeeze Colbert out of CBS, Danny turned
his sights on me, and now he's openly rooting for
NBC to fire Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers and the
hundreds of Americans who work for their shows who don't
make millions of dollars. And I hope that if that happens,
or if there's even any hint of that happening, you
(15:31):
will be ten times as loud as you were this week.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
We have to speak out against this up.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Because he's not offered Christian He.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ascribes a lot of power to Donald Trump. There.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Yeah, listen, I don't like when Trump does that, and
I don't like when Trump says that what we've seen
over the last ten years that Trump will bloviate on
an issue and then nothing happens and nothing is done.
Thank goodness, But listen, Trump should know better. Trump shouldn't
even say things like that. It's not a effective, it's
not smart, it's not right. Having said all that, if
Trump is the bad guy, if he's the dictator, why
(16:06):
is he back in the air in a week and
Colbert was losing the.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Who in the world would keep him on the air
for that long. It's just absolute straw men all the
way down. Every time I hear these clips, every time
I read about this, and the media, the legacy media,
to the matremat what are going to label them? Are
so incredibly dishonest. They get worse by the day. And
I don't know how it's possible, but they are. They
have framed this in the most incorrect, insincere, inappropriate, inauthentic way.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
And I'd like to add one other thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
They're now trying to wrap themselves also in being the
employers of the average person. Hundreds of our employees will
be laid off, as though he universally is helping with
the job market. Where were they when President Trump ended
up becoming the champion of the blue collar worker, the
average American because the policies under Biden and previously under Obama,
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we're driving our economy down and.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
People were hurting.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I've sat in those waiting rooms and those green rooms
in Hollywood, and they talk about the rest of America
as the flyover states. You can't suddenly say you are
now the champion of the working individual.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And by the way, what about when the COVID shots.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He didn't get the COVID chat yet at work exactly
millionaires and billionaires?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Was that regular Joe and James there it was? They
had nothing to say this clip.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'm so glad you pulled this one, Deborah, because it
speaks to my conflict with Jimmy Kimmel, because the conflict
within himself. Who is he is he clown knows on?
Or is he clown knows off? Listen to who he
references here.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alf kronk Hite must be spinning in his grave right now.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He's dead, right.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Look, I never imagine I would be in a situation
like this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I barely paid attention in school.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And one thing I did learn from Lenny Bruce and
George Carlin and Howard Stern is that a government threat
to silence a comedian the president doesn't like is anti American, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Anti here's the rub, Debra is Jimmy Kimmel Moore, Wallden Cronkite,
or he can't have it both ways, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin,
Howard Stern, Which one is it?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Well, and here's the thing. He says, Walter Cronkite is
now rolling in his grave. He's been rolling in his
grave for about thirty years as we've watched the absolute
devastation of journalism, and all the time that Walter Kronkite
was on the air, and that was when there was
still broadcast journalism, he only really expressed his opinion a
couple of times, and afterwards there's even comments where he said,
(18:29):
I shouldn't have done that. I got emotional. I said
my opinion instead of just the facts. So the fact
is he quotes him and then George Carlin. It's not
the same situation, and he cannot, at one point in
time say, hey, I'm just a late night comedy show.
This show is important. But Walter Cronkite would have been
on my side.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
It's absolutely the worst kind of conflation of every single argument.
And the problem is, there are one one third of
Democrats from one pole I saw who believe that the
assassin of Charlie Kirk was from the left. Why because
they listened to Jimmy Kimmel and people like that and
(19:12):
think it is news. You are not news, you're not
a journalist. And by the way, you're not funny. So
you're not really building any bill right now.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
The final word, mister Toto, Yeah, it's that's the bottom line.
And that's the thing he just really directly avoided bringing up.
He couldn't mention the lie. He couldn't mention why it
was bad. He couldn't mention why he was wrong. He
couldn't mention why he said it, Why did he say it,
why did he weaponize that particular point, And by the
way he's talked about it, I got a team of
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fact checkers there. Did you do all the just rugorus research?
And in the rare occasions when I get something wrong,
I apologize, Well, this was the best way, the best example,
the best chance for you to do just that. And
he couldn't do it, and do it he couldn't. He
couldn't even learn from this experience. He had a bunch
of days off. You think he would have had some
soul searching. No, he got worse. Can't do soul searching
(20:01):
if there's no soul to search out.
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You've got to talk about like what it means when
you're running for president or you running for one of
these higher offices and you go out there and you
talk about beating people up, you go out there and
you say things like I could shoot somebody in the
middle of the street in New York and I could
still win. We got to talk about like that. That
is next level me disagreeing with you, me calling you.
You know, I want to be hitler. All those things
(22:01):
are like not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody,
but when you're literally telling people at rallies, yeah, beat
them up and that kind of stuff, like you are
promoting like a culture of violence.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So we need to talk about like what it.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh, what it looks like when you call Trump wanna
be Hitler? Representative Jasmine Crockett, Democrat, Texas our first nominee
for Friday four the Weaka. It seems to be a
weekly occurrence with her. As I recall, it was a
Trump supporter who was shot with a thirty odd to
six in the jugular, bled out and died.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's the violence that happened in the wake of all
of this.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yep, Deborah Flora, Jasmine Crockett says, has nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To do with me calling him and want to be
hitler Trump.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Yeah, I mean, I just time for a look at
the man in the mirror. I mean, seriously, let's just
all start with where we are. I'm sure every single
one of us can think of something at some point
in time we wish we had it said. But the
inability to say anything that they have said wrong in
this instance with Asmond Crockett. When you call someone it
would be Hitler or a wanna be Hitler, you are
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inspiring people who are following you to take someone out.
If they truly believe that, they would think they were
morally right to do so. The problem is there's such
a lack of introspection and even an ability. And by
the way, I don't ever remember Trump or anyone the
right saying, hey, go beat them up. But dark Woke
(23:25):
is all now about we're going to get violent, We're
going to get out there, We're going to you know, take.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
It to the streets. It is.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It's going to take really, I think the people on
the right who have shown such restraint. All you can
do is see what happened in twenty twenty after the
George Floyd riots and what didn't happen after the Charlie
Kirk assassination, where there were prayer vigils instead.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Total it's the moral justification of what dub just said.
It's always that age old question if you could go
back in time and kill baby Hitler in the crib,
would you The obvious answers yes. So if you're constantly
peppering people, especially smaller minded people, lower information people, that
Trump is the equivalent of Hitler, he want to be Hitler,
that he's aspiring to be Hitler, a dictator. Then, of
(24:10):
course a weak minded person is going to feast upon that,
use that as justification to do what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
The Great Douglas Mary has a really wonderful column and
that he posted this week that really addresses this situation directly,
and he's far more eloquent than I am. I will
say a couple of things. One what Krockett does is
she cherry picks little tiny pieces of information. I think
the beat him up thing was probably someone at a
rally who was being something mischievous or something. It was
like he was saying, go beat up people. So that's
(24:38):
how That's the only way you can tell she's a
little bit bright because she's able to kind of pick
and choose things the kind of put them into a
new format.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Also, she's the coach switching queen.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
She sounded very eloquent there other times she's like, I'm
maning to the voice, noting the voice of the.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Attacked, But.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Playing to a crowd.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
It is so condescending and so belittling, and that's exactly
what she does. You know, if Saturday Night Live had
any real steal and its spine, they would make fun
of that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh, I won't go neat just like we do. Yeah,
they won't go near it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, Jasmine, crack up nominy number one, number two,
this guy, let's get Don Lemon's read on the Constitution
of the United States. I'm sure it's an accurate interpretation.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
True freedom of religion is possibly only as possible only
if we honor the absolute separation of.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Church and state.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Remember I said, the impetus of this book that I
said on every single every single time I had to
promote it or talk about it, was the blurring or
the erasing of the line between state and church.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
And that's what religious.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Nationalists were doing, and many of them white nationalists.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh, come on, wrapped in it's white nationalism, wrapped in
religious nations.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
We can have freedom of religion, yeah right, okay, or
we can have a Christian nation.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We can't have both.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Evangelicals know this, and it's clear which side of the
nartics thereon.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
All right, class, let's go back to the First Amendment.
This is what it says, Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,
or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press,
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and
to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What this has always been explained to me.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As Deborah, is that you have a freedom of religion.
But the Left has bastardized this and turned it into
you have a freedom from religion, and that's just not
the case.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
This is right there with them constantly calling our country
a democracy, not a republic.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Right the church and state.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Lets everybody just remember that was a letter between Jeffrey
and the Danbury Baptist Church, and he was assuring them
that government would never prohibit their right to do anything.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
It was not the other way around.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
It was saying that the churches would be protected from
government overreach. So this whole idea of an absolute separation
that is always used to basically shut up anyone that
they don't agree with, and it usually is from the
Christian faith of which I am one.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
You do not hear this when.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
The Detroit mayor just said because it is basically almost
under Sharia law that no pastor is welcome in his
dearborn Yeah, excuse me, the dearborn mayor. So the reality
is he is wrong on every single front. And by
the way, if I'm correct, he was talking about this
about the Kirk memorial once again, Victor turning it upside
(27:50):
down and blaming everybody that went for peaceful prayer to
have a vigil to celebrate what his life was about
out and they just can't stop themselves from tearing it
down and misrepresenting everything.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Once again, Christian, let alone the fact that both the
Declaration of Independence, our Constitution as a whole is undergirded
and Judeo Christian principles and values, and that was a
big part of the founding of this country by our
founding fathers who collaborated at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.
But that all being said, they want the right, we've
got to scrap our religion. We've got to keep that
out of there. However, the secular left, these atheists, politics
(28:30):
is their religion, so they get to bring it into
the public square.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
We have to leave it out.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It's amazing that the people who gathered at that memorial.
All they wanted to do is celebrate their Christian faith
and Charlie's Christian faith. And Don Lemon looks at that
and says white nationalism, white nationalism. First of all, it
is the laziest attack line on the GOP that is possible,
save the you're doing ex distractors on the Epstein list,
that's even lazier. It is just absurd. But I also thinking, gee,
(28:56):
I wonder why scene it no longer has any use
for Don Lemon truly truly patheticals. He deserves to be
fading into obscurity.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Detroit's own doctor Ben Carson makes for a very interesting
white nationalist.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
They completely ignore the.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Fact that Trump's got gay people in his cabinet at
high levels. He's got women in extraordinary h a lot
of it and a lot of them. They ignore that completely.
That is a non factor.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They ignore it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, Hilary Clinton's afraid that we're going to go back
to the patriarchy, so she is joining into this festivus
with Jasmine Crockett Don Lemon as a nominee for a
Friday Fool of the Week.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's hear what she had to say.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
And I am proud of the fact that we have
always been a work in progress. You know, we haven't
gotten to the more perfect union, and.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We fought a civil war over part of it.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
And people have been protesting, you know, for hundreds of
years that you know, things were not as they should be,
given our ideals and how we should be moving toward them.
So I think that's what makes us so special as
a country, and the idea that you could turn the
clock back and try to recreate a world that never
(30:07):
was dominated by you know, let's say it, white men
of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point
of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage
to what we should be aiming for. And we were
on the path toward that, I mean, imperfectly. Lots of
you know, bumps along the way, but I agree with you, we.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Were on the right trajectory, great path, bumps along What
was she talking about?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Great question?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I just think it's so amazing that the entire idea
that was represented by the way, you know, the fight
for the Civil war. All people are created equal with
intrinsic value, except for white men. I It's just like,
why does everything have to be attached on the left to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Either your sex or your.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Your race or ethnicity, because there's a human race and
then there's a lot of ethnicities. That's how I see
the world, and that is what the entire goal of
someone like Martin Luther King Junior is.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But they just can't stop themselves.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
They keep fighting the fights from back in eighteen hundreds
or in the fifties.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
They cannot come up.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
To speed and say, we've had a black president and
there are really none of those things. And who's being
put down the most right now, honestly white Christian men and.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right there total this is like Jimmy Kimmel just oun't
want half of America. So if you're a straight white
dude who happens to be Christian, why would you vote Democrat?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
At this point? They hate you.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
They hate you.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
You know, if we learn that there's a media or
heading toward the earth and everything will be extinguished tomorrow.
I would still take great pleasure in the fact that
President Trump beat her in twenty sixteen, saying is that,
I mean keeping her out.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Of the Oval office has been a glorious thing.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Is a nasty human being, and I think every time
she opens her mouth, she proves it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
One more nominee for a Friday Fool of the Week
to add to Jasmine Crockett, Don Lemon, and Hillary Clinton
when we come back wrapping up the Right Side of
Hollywood After this, his reaction.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
To that, since this part of the book has come out,
if you've had any reflection on that, or I guess,
I guess I'd ask you to just elaborate on that
a little bit. It's hard to hear with you running,
as you know, you're the first woman elected vice president,
you're a black woman and a South Asian woman elected
that high office, very nearly elected president, to say that
(32:30):
he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because he was gay.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
It's hard to go no, No, that's not what I said.
That's that he couldn't be on the ticket because he
is gay. My point, as I write in the book,
is that I was clear that in one hundred and
seven days, in one of the most hotly contested elections
(32:53):
for President of the United States, against someone like Donald Trump,
who knows no floor, okay to be a black woman
running for president of the United States and as a
vice presidential running mate, a gay man with the stakes
being so high. It made me very sad, but I
(33:16):
also realized it would be a real risk.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, so it wasn't because was gay, Deborah, it's because
he was gay, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I think the answer that you have for everything is
it's Trump's fault. It's Trump's fault, it's Trumps, it's because
of Trump. But I would like to then follow up
a question with comment and say, why did you not
then have Governor Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Because he's Jewish and he.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Was actually there was a ton of pressure from what
I understand, against her for choosing and because he was Jewish.
I'm like, you either take responsibility or don't. I mean, really,
that's where we are in the world. I think one
of the biggest divining points are do you have intellectual
integrity and are you willing to take responsibility for your
own actions?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Period?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Total?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
To be fair, she just said, I don't want to
win Pennsylvania, so I don't want him. That was Pennsylvania.
Just don't like the state. Don't like it.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
She's amazing, and she's a cherish and she's a wonderful person.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Because I mean, I don't have so much content waves
and the levers of.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Power as how much as going to wait for levels
of power, And I'm all in, well, she's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm gonna have to get your votes here, mister Toto,
Jasmin Krockett, Don Lemon, Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Gotta go with Hillary. Hillary's the vote, Denver.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Floor, Don Lemon, get your Constitution and everything else in
history straight.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Mister all right, build a two vote count yours as well.
Five seven, seven, three nine. We'll have our Friday Fool
of the Week announced at the end of the day's program.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Stay tuned. I'm shrewling live rolls on after this
And here we go. That's it.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We're going to jump live. I've got a lot of
stuff going on over here. It's a crazy day. Christian Toto,
Debrah flor R. Here, we've got audio galaur and let's
get right to it because we got a lot to
get to here. Five seven, seven, three nine, if you
want to take part in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And these were the select cold cuts.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And I use that term intentionally from the Jimmy Kimmel
monologue that he returned with on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now an update to all of this as well.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sinclair Stations have decided the corporation that runs those affiliates
that he will return to their affiliate airwaves as of tonight.
But this is what he opened with on Tuesday in
front of a record crowd in terms of ratings in
the audience, YouTube downloads, and views, all of that right here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I've been hearing a lot about what I need to
say and do tonight, and the truth is, I don't
think what I have to say is going to make
much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
If you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind, but I
do want to make something clear because it's important to
me as a human, and that is you understand that
it was never my intention to make light of the
murder of a young man.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I don't think there's only thing funny about it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I posted a message on Instagram of the dames killed,
sending love to his family and asking for compassion, and
I meant it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I still do, does he though, And I'm going to
illustrate why. I think that's a croc of you know what,
in just a moment. But Deborah Flora, you picked this clip,
so I'm going to turn to you for your analysis.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What did you think of that? Right out of the gate?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm not going to judge whether or not his tears
are real, but I don't know what the motivation is,
particularly because it could be what he's been.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Through in the last week or so.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
But the reality is when he says it was never
my intention to make light of Charlie Kirk's assassination, that's
exactly what he did. That is exactly what got him
in hot water. He made light of it and then
referred to President Trump's mourning of Charlie Kirk as a child,
warning a goldfish. So what the problem is He started
(02:02):
out the gate talking about his intentions, not talking about
what he actually did.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That's beginning of a false apology.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And in addition to that, let's look back at the timeline.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated on Wednesday, September tenth. Now, if
we take Jimmy at his word, very emotional there, did
not want to make light of a young man being
murdered in front of God and everybody on video, very graphically,
I might add, says that he posted on Instagram his thoughts,
(02:32):
his prayers, his feelings, his emotions. Okay, that would have
been Wednesday night that we learned that Charlie Kirk was dead.
He puts that on Instagram. Okay, here is Jimmy Kimmel.
Five days later, on Monday, September fifteenth, when he went
to the airwaves as this part of his monologue, he
hit some new.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Lows over the weekend with the Maggie Gang desperately trying
to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything
other than one of them and everything they can.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To score a political point, and.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And so doing scoring political points himself for the left.
By deflecting blame and assigning it incorrectly and falsely. I
might add with a lie that the shooter of Charlie
Kirk was quote.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Unquote one of their own.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Where was the emotion right there, Christian from Jimmy Kimmel
on the death of Charlie Kirk, Well.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
There was emotion there.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
It was there was get him, let's make this, let's
make this way, we can attack Magga and Trump. It's
such a he's not He's not sorry. He didn't apologize.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, the tears.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Listen, we didn't have gatorade eye on standby with this guy.
He cries all the time, you know, man up. I mean,
he had a show called a man show of crying
out loud listen. If he was just you know, when
I discuss like Erica Kirk and once she said, I
get emotional because it's so profound and so sad and
so poignant. But what he was discussing at the time
(03:54):
didn't seem like it would trigger a tear, you know
what I mean, Like what he was saying, the words
he was saying. I didn't mean to make light of that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's not what triggers it.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
It's something if I said, you know, Charlie Kirk is
a dad and a husband, and those kids don't have
a dad anymore. That would trigger something within me. But
what he said wasn't really a tearful. I'm kind of microanalyzing,
but mostly I'm doing it because he's jerk, and he
won't apologize, and he didn't really directly address what he said,
(04:26):
and he didn't directly apologize what he said.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Those are weasel words.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
And he went back to doing the whole I hate
Trump and he's a monster and blah blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
For crying out loud.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
First of all, your late night talk show hosts, can
you at least try to make a joke and try
to be funny. He doesn't even bother with that anymore.
He really is just basically the MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The words are intentional. This was all prescripted. You had
to imagine a lot of thought went into this by
him and his writers, So every single word you have
to believe was deliberate. This was continuing on the cut
that Dever selected. Mister Toto, you selected this one, and
again listen very carefully, and a great phrase that Christian
just used weasel words nor was it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
My intention to blame any specific group for the actions
of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That was really the opposite of the point I was
trying to make.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But I understand that to some that felt either ill
timed or unclear, or maybe both. And for those who
think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset.
If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd
have felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Didn't mean to point a finger in a particular group.
One more time, one more time. I want people to
hear the direct contrast here.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We had some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Mega Gang trying to characterize Charlie Kirk's assasses anything other
than one of their own Christian that's pretty specific.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
You know, we live in this disgusting apology culture where
all these apologies are fake, fake, there's descripted.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know, Roseanne Barr sent out.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
That tweet and it was a gross tweet, and you
know she says you didn't know that the Valerie Jarra
was black, whatever, But he instantly apologized. That's the way
an apology works. If you fight with your spouse and
you say the wrong thing, oh gosh, I'm so sorry, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's what you do.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
That's an apology. So this whole apology culture is nonsense
from the start. But what he did is that complete,
inauthentic apology where he says, well, if you were offended,
you took it the wrong way. That is not an apology.
That's an escape clause.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm sorry for how you feel. This is your clip
right here, Debra.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I have many friends and family members on the other
side who I love and remain close to, even though
we don't agree on politics at all.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I don't think the murderer.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick
person who believed violence was a solution and it isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It ever, And also selfishly I am I.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Am a person who gets a lot of threats. I
get many ugly and scary threats against my life, my wife,
my kids, my coworkers because of what I choose to say.
And I know those threats don't come from the kind
of people on the right who I know and love.
So that's what I wanted to say on that subject.
But I don't want to make this about me because
and I know this is what people say when they
make things about them.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
But I really don't this show. This show is not important.
What is important is that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We get to live in a country that allows us.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
To have a show like this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, so you don't have a right to a show
like that on broadcast television, Jimmy, it's about ratings.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's a business.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He did make it about himself there, Deborah, and prior
to that, he even tries to absolve the left from
any responsibility for this shooter.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Oh without a jat.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I mean, it's exactly the point that a Christian was making.
As well, he does point out exactly who he was
blaming and what group he was pointing a finger at,
and he does not apologize even to the point of
saying what I said was wrong, what I said was incorrect.
It is an absolute obfuscation. The only true things that
(08:13):
he basically said in that clip was selfishly dot dot
dot dot, and that made about his own victimization.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
And then when he talked.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
About how you know he has people that he loves
and all that. I think the emotion honestly was well,
probably got called on the carpet lot and he was
crying more about it feels like how he has been
treated since this. The other thing he said is this
show is not important, but the self importance that people
(08:42):
in this position, including Stephen Colbert and now Jimmy Kimmel
are putting these selves in, and the left is putting
them in as though they are the new crusaders for
the First Amendment. Everything is upside down in what he said,
and when someone cannot even say what I said was wrong,
(09:02):
I should not have done it and I will do
better into future.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Here's what I learned.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
That would have been an amazing moment in our culture,
and instead it was more of the same.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
She's Deborah Flora Christian Toto alongside breaking down the Jimmy
Kimmel monologue and whether it matters here because as a
brief aside, we're hearing from like Joe Scarborough, other members
of the media. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel gutt his best ratings ever,
keep track of the ratings ever since then and all
through next week is going to go right? Back to
what it was because there was no true, authentic apology here.
(09:32):
He did not try to bring people back into the
conversation who he has castigated, and that means every one
of us that are center right. He doesn't want us
watching his show. He doesn't want those ratings, I guess.
But this goes back now to a Toto clip here
about what his fellow comedians abroad told him.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Jimmy Kimmel, I have the opportunity to meet and spend
time with comedians and talk show hosts from countries like Russia,
countries in the Middle East who told me they would
get thrown in prison making fun of those in power
and worse than being throne imprisions.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
They know how lucky we are here.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Our freedom to speak is what they admire most about
this country.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And that's something I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
To say I took for granted until they pulled my
friend Steven off the air, Oh my god, and tried
to coerce the affiliates who run our show in the
cities that you live in to take my show off
the air. That's not legal, that's not American, that is
un American, and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Christian.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Where do I even start without cursing, where do I
even start? Well, he doesn't say boo about what's going
on in England where you put the wrong social media
post up, you got to knock on your door. He
didn't talk about the Twitter files, he didn't talk about
the bid. Literally the day earlier, the day where he
made this fake apology, there was a huge news story
and at Google apologizing for using censorship techniques that were
(10:51):
pressed upon them by the Biden administration. This guy is
the biggest phony fraud that you could possibly imagine. He
is absolutely absurd and wrapping himself from the first Amendment.
You don't deserve that, you don't get it. And by
the way, if this is Orange Man, bed what he does,
why do you let him back on the air in
a month?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Worst dictator ever? Clearly very bad dictator.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I'm still recovering on my social media platforms from
being downgraded. A listener alerted me through Matt Tayebi's reporting
that I was a part of the Twitter files because
of a comment I made about Antrim County in northwest
Lower Michigan looking like the results for flip turns out
I was right now, I didn't ascribe motor to that.
I just said the machines with something happened there, and
(11:31):
it did, but I still got downgraded and I got
totally soft shadow band for the longest time. And again
I'm still trying to recover from that. Here's Jimmy Kimmel again.
There's a sleight of hand going on here. Christian kind
of touched on it. But this would equate to what
I call a red herring argument about the government deciding
which programs we can watch or not watch.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Should the government be allowed to regulate which podcasts the
cell phone companies and Wi Fi providers are allowed to
let you download to make for they serve the public interest?
You think that sounds crazy. Ten years ago this sounded
crazy Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC, telling an
American company, we can do this the easy way or
the hard way, and that these companies can find ways
(12:15):
to change conduct and take action.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
On Kimmel or there's going to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Be additional work for the FCC ahead. In addition to
being a direct violation of the First Amendment, is not
a particularly intelligent threat to make in public. Ted Cruz
said he sounded like a mafioso.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Loough. I don't know. If you want to hear a mob.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Boss make a threat like that, you have to hide
a microphone in a deli and park outside in a
van with a tape recorder all night long. This genius
said it on a podcast. Brandon Carr is the most
embarrassing car Republicans have embraced since this one.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And that player us as a Trump wrapped Tesla must
have video.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
By the way, where was Jimmy when all those violence
was going on against Tesla dealerships?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Did he say any about the violence?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
No, it only counts if it's against their scill about it?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, well, deb this was your clip and it goes
back to the Telecom Act of ninety six and the
FCC and their role for over the air broadcast television
and radio. They play by a different set of rules
than the podcast platforms he mentioned. I do think and
suppose that Jimmy might not be smart enough to realize
the difference stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Well, you and I know, Ryan, after being on the
air for an extended period of time, there are certain
things that happen on the broadcast airwaves that are regulated
for certain reasons or recorded, which is important. I think
the thing is he takes what happened to him, and
once again this is him putting on the mantle of
being the champion for the First Amendment.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
And takes it way too far.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
What he also overlooks is the reason why he actually
was taken off the air was not because of Brendan Carr.
I do, by the way, I think Brendan Carr should
not have said what he said. The problem is is
that actually gave the left a reason to say, oh,
this is actually because the government is overreaching. I'm not
for that. What was happening was the way it should happen.
(14:08):
Next Star and Sinclair both took him off the air
because they have a right to do that as people
who own this franchise of outlets across the country, because
his comments did not represent their companies. That's the way
it should have been. He doesn't even talk about that,
or the fact that he was losing money. I do
(14:29):
want to. I did want to mention this Brendan Carr, however,
because I do think unfortunately what could have been a
huge win for the free market system for ratings going down,
for people not wanting to hear this kind of trash,
became instead something that the left is obfuscating every other
element of what happened in the story to say it
was just about Brendan Carr and the FCC under the
(14:52):
Trump administration that should not have happened. But what happened
before was completely a free market activity.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And that goes to the this clip that you wanted
us to highlight, mister Toto, and this is about Trump
and him being kind of the force behind this.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He was.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Somehow able to squeeze Colbert out of CBS, Danny turned
his sights on me, and now he's openly rooting for
NBC to fire Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers and the
hundreds of Americans who work for their shows who don't
make millions of dollars. And I hope that if that happens,
or if there's even any hint of that happening, you
(15:31):
will be ten times as loud as you were this week.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
We have to speak out against this up.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Because he's not offered Christian He.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ascribes a lot of power to Donald Trump. There.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Yeah, listen, I don't like when Trump does that, and
I don't like when Trump says that what we've seen
over the last ten years that Trump will bloviate on
an issue and then nothing happens and nothing is done.
Thank goodness, But listen, Trump should know better. Trump shouldn't
even say things like that. It's not a effective, it's
not smart, it's not right. Having said all that, if
Trump is the bad guy, if he's the dictator, why
(16:06):
is he back in the air in a week and
Colbert was losing the.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Who in the world would keep him on the air
for that long. It's just absolute straw men all the
way down. Every time I hear these clips, every time
I read about this, and the media, the legacy media,
to the matremat what are going to label them? Are
so incredibly dishonest. They get worse by the day. And
I don't know how it's possible, but they are. They
have framed this in the most incorrect, insincere, inappropriate, inauthentic way.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
And I'd like to add one other thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
They're now trying to wrap themselves also in being the
employers of the average person. Hundreds of our employees will
be laid off, as though he universally is helping with
the job market. Where were they when President Trump ended
up becoming the champion of the blue collar worker, the
average American because the policies under Biden and previously under Obama,
(16:56):
we're driving our economy down and.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
People were hurting.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I've sat in those waiting rooms and those green rooms
in Hollywood, and they talk about the rest of America
as the flyover states. You can't suddenly say you are
now the champion of the working individual.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And by the way, what about when the COVID shots.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He didn't get the COVID chat yet at work exactly
millionaires and billionaires?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Was that regular Joe and James there it was? They
had nothing to say this clip.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'm so glad you pulled this one, Deborah, because it
speaks to my conflict with Jimmy Kimmel, because the conflict
within himself. Who is he is he clown knows on?
Or is he clown knows off? Listen to who he
references here.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alf kronk Hite must be spinning in his grave right now.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He's dead, right.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Look, I never imagine I would be in a situation
like this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I barely paid attention in school.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And one thing I did learn from Lenny Bruce and
George Carlin and Howard Stern is that a government threat
to silence a comedian the president doesn't like is anti American, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Anti here's the rub, Debra is Jimmy Kimmel Moore, Wallden Cronkite,
or he can't have it both ways, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin,
Howard Stern, Which one is it?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Well, and here's the thing. He says, Walter Cronkite is
now rolling in his grave. He's been rolling in his
grave for about thirty years as we've watched the absolute
devastation of journalism, and all the time that Walter Kronkite
was on the air, and that was when there was
still broadcast journalism, he only really expressed his opinion a
couple of times, and afterwards there's even comments where he said,
(18:29):
I shouldn't have done that. I got emotional. I said
my opinion instead of just the facts. So the fact
is he quotes him and then George Carlin. It's not
the same situation, and he cannot, at one point in
time say, hey, I'm just a late night comedy show.
This show is important. But Walter Cronkite would have been
on my side.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
It's absolutely the worst kind of conflation of every single argument.
And the problem is, there are one one third of
Democrats from one pole I saw who believe that the
assassin of Charlie Kirk was from the left. Why because
they listened to Jimmy Kimmel and people like that and
(19:12):
think it is news. You are not news, you're not
a journalist. And by the way, you're not funny. So
you're not really building any bill right now.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
The final word, mister Toto, Yeah, it's that's the bottom line.
And that's the thing he just really directly avoided bringing up.
He couldn't mention the lie. He couldn't mention why it
was bad. He couldn't mention why he was wrong. He
couldn't mention why he said it, Why did he say it,
why did he weaponize that particular point, And by the
way he's talked about it, I got a team of
(19:41):
fact checkers there. Did you do all the just rugorus research?
And in the rare occasions when I get something wrong,
I apologize, Well, this was the best way, the best example,
the best chance for you to do just that. And
he couldn't do it, and do it he couldn't. He
couldn't even learn from this experience. He had a bunch
of days off. You think he would have had some
soul searching. No, he got worse. Can't do soul searching
(20:01):
if there's no soul to search out.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
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Speaker 9 (21:41):
You've got to talk about like what it means when
you're running for president or you running for one of
these higher offices and you go out there and you
talk about beating people up, you go out there and
you say things like I could shoot somebody in the
middle of the street in New York and I could
still win. We got to talk about like that. That
is next level me disagreeing with you, me calling you.
You know, I want to be hitler. All those things
(22:01):
are like not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody,
but when you're literally telling people at rallies, yeah, beat
them up and that kind of stuff, like you are
promoting like a culture of violence.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So we need to talk about like what it.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
Looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh, what it looks like when you call Trump wanna
be Hitler? Representative Jasmine Crockett, Democrat, Texas our first nominee
for Friday four the Weaka. It seems to be a
weekly occurrence with her. As I recall, it was a
Trump supporter who was shot with a thirty odd to
six in the jugular, bled out and died.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's the violence that happened in the wake of all
of this.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yep, Deborah Flora, Jasmine Crockett says, has nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To do with me calling him and want to be
hitler Trump.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Yeah, I mean, I just time for a look at
the man in the mirror. I mean, seriously, let's just
all start with where we are. I'm sure every single
one of us can think of something at some point
in time we wish we had it said. But the
inability to say anything that they have said wrong in
this instance with Asmond Crockett. When you call someone it
would be Hitler or a wanna be Hitler, you are
(23:05):
inspiring people who are following you to take someone out.
If they truly believe that, they would think they were
morally right to do so. The problem is there's such
a lack of introspection and even an ability. And by
the way, I don't ever remember Trump or anyone the
right saying, hey, go beat them up. But dark Woke
(23:25):
is all now about we're going to get violent, We're
going to get out there, We're going to you know, take.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
It to the streets. It is.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It's going to take really, I think the people on
the right who have shown such restraint. All you can
do is see what happened in twenty twenty after the
George Floyd riots and what didn't happen after the Charlie
Kirk assassination, where there were prayer vigils instead.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Total it's the moral justification of what dub just said.
It's always that age old question if you could go
back in time and kill baby Hitler in the crib,
would you The obvious answers yes. So if you're constantly
peppering people, especially smaller minded people, lower information people, that
Trump is the equivalent of Hitler, he want to be Hitler,
that he's aspiring to be Hitler, a dictator. Then, of
(24:10):
course a weak minded person is going to feast upon that,
use that as justification to do what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
The Great Douglas Mary has a really wonderful column and
that he posted this week that really addresses this situation directly,
and he's far more eloquent than I am. I will
say a couple of things. One what Krockett does is
she cherry picks little tiny pieces of information. I think
the beat him up thing was probably someone at a
rally who was being something mischievous or something. It was
like he was saying, go beat up people. So that's
(24:38):
how That's the only way you can tell she's a
little bit bright because she's able to kind of pick
and choose things the kind of put them into a
new format.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Also, she's the coach switching queen.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
She sounded very eloquent there other times she's like, I'm
maning to the voice, noting the voice of the.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Attacked, But.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Playing to a crowd.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
It is so condescending and so belittling, and that's exactly
what she does. You know, if Saturday Night Live had
any real steal and its spine, they would make fun
of that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh, I won't go neat just like we do. Yeah,
they won't go near it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, Jasmine, crack up nominy number one, number two,
this guy, let's get Don Lemon's read on the Constitution
of the United States. I'm sure it's an accurate interpretation.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
True freedom of religion is possibly only as possible only
if we honor the absolute separation of.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Church and state.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Remember I said, the impetus of this book that I
said on every single every single time I had to
promote it or talk about it, was the blurring or
the erasing of the line between state and church.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
And that's what religious.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Nationalists were doing, and many of them white nationalists.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh, come on, wrapped in it's white nationalism, wrapped in
religious nations.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
We can have freedom of religion, yeah right, okay, or
we can have a Christian nation.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We can't have both.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Evangelicals know this, and it's clear which side of the
nartics thereon.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
All right, class, let's go back to the First Amendment.
This is what it says, Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,
or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press,
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and
to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What this has always been explained to me.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As Deborah, is that you have a freedom of religion.
But the Left has bastardized this and turned it into
you have a freedom from religion, and that's just not
the case.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
This is right there with them constantly calling our country
a democracy, not a republic.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Right the church and state.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Lets everybody just remember that was a letter between Jeffrey
and the Danbury Baptist Church, and he was assuring them
that government would never prohibit their right to do anything.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
It was not the other way around.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
It was saying that the churches would be protected from
government overreach. So this whole idea of an absolute separation
that is always used to basically shut up anyone that
they don't agree with, and it usually is from the
Christian faith of which I am one.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
You do not hear this when.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
The Detroit mayor just said because it is basically almost
under Sharia law that no pastor is welcome in his
dearborn Yeah, excuse me, the dearborn mayor. So the reality
is he is wrong on every single front. And by
the way, if I'm correct, he was talking about this
about the Kirk memorial once again, Victor turning it upside
(27:50):
down and blaming everybody that went for peaceful prayer to
have a vigil to celebrate what his life was about
out and they just can't stop themselves from tearing it
down and misrepresenting everything.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Once again, Christian, let alone the fact that both the
Declaration of Independence, our Constitution as a whole is undergirded
and Judeo Christian principles and values, and that was a
big part of the founding of this country by our
founding fathers who collaborated at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.
But that all being said, they want the right, we've
got to scrap our religion. We've got to keep that
out of there. However, the secular left, these atheists, politics
(28:30):
is their religion, so they get to bring it into
the public square.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
We have to leave it out.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It's amazing that the people who gathered at that memorial.
All they wanted to do is celebrate their Christian faith
and Charlie's Christian faith. And Don Lemon looks at that
and says white nationalism, white nationalism. First of all, it
is the laziest attack line on the GOP that is possible,
save the you're doing ex distractors on the Epstein list,
that's even lazier. It is just absurd. But I also thinking, gee,
(28:56):
I wonder why scene it no longer has any use
for Don Lemon truly truly patheticals. He deserves to be
fading into obscurity.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Detroit's own doctor Ben Carson makes for a very interesting
white nationalist.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
They completely ignore the.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Fact that Trump's got gay people in his cabinet at
high levels. He's got women in extraordinary h a lot
of it and a lot of them. They ignore that completely.
That is a non factor.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They ignore it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, Hilary Clinton's afraid that we're going to go back
to the patriarchy, so she is joining into this festivus
with Jasmine Crockett Don Lemon as a nominee for a
Friday Fool of the Week.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's hear what she had to say.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
And I am proud of the fact that we have
always been a work in progress. You know, we haven't
gotten to the more perfect union, and.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We fought a civil war over part of it.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
And people have been protesting, you know, for hundreds of
years that you know, things were not as they should be,
given our ideals and how we should be moving toward them.
So I think that's what makes us so special as
a country, and the idea that you could turn the
clock back and try to recreate a world that never
(30:07):
was dominated by you know, let's say it, white men
of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point
of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage
to what we should be aiming for. And we were
on the path toward that, I mean, imperfectly. Lots of
you know, bumps along the way, but I agree with you, we.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Were on the right trajectory, great path, bumps along What
was she talking about?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Great question?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I just think it's so amazing that the entire idea
that was represented by the way, you know, the fight
for the Civil war. All people are created equal with
intrinsic value, except for white men. I It's just like,
why does everything have to be attached on the left to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Either your sex or your.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Your race or ethnicity, because there's a human race and
then there's a lot of ethnicities. That's how I see
the world, and that is what the entire goal of
someone like Martin Luther King Junior is.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But they just can't stop themselves.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
They keep fighting the fights from back in eighteen hundreds
or in the fifties.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
They cannot come up.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
To speed and say, we've had a black president and
there are really none of those things. And who's being
put down the most right now, honestly white Christian men and.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right there total this is like Jimmy Kimmel just oun't
want half of America. So if you're a straight white
dude who happens to be Christian, why would you vote Democrat?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
At this point? They hate you.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
They hate you.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
You know, if we learn that there's a media or
heading toward the earth and everything will be extinguished tomorrow.
I would still take great pleasure in the fact that
President Trump beat her in twenty sixteen, saying is that,
I mean keeping her out.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Of the Oval office has been a glorious thing.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Is a nasty human being, and I think every time
she opens her mouth, she proves it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
One more nominee for a Friday Fool of the Week
to add to Jasmine Crockett, Don Lemon, and Hillary Clinton
when we come back wrapping up the Right Side of
Hollywood After this, his reaction.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
To that, since this part of the book has come out,
if you've had any reflection on that, or I guess,
I guess I'd ask you to just elaborate on that
a little bit. It's hard to hear with you running,
as you know, you're the first woman elected vice president,
you're a black woman and a South Asian woman elected
that high office, very nearly elected president, to say that
(32:30):
he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because he was gay.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
It's hard to go no, No, that's not what I said.
That's that he couldn't be on the ticket because he
is gay. My point, as I write in the book,
is that I was clear that in one hundred and
seven days, in one of the most hotly contested elections
(32:53):
for President of the United States, against someone like Donald Trump,
who knows no floor, okay to be a black woman
running for president of the United States and as a
vice presidential running mate, a gay man with the stakes
being so high. It made me very sad, but I
(33:16):
also realized it would be a real risk.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, so it wasn't because was gay, Deborah, it's because
he was gay, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I think the answer that you have for everything is
it's Trump's fault. It's Trump's fault, it's Trumps, it's because
of Trump. But I would like to then follow up
a question with comment and say, why did you not
then have Governor Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Because he's Jewish and he.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Was actually there was a ton of pressure from what
I understand, against her for choosing and because he was Jewish.
I'm like, you either take responsibility or don't. I mean, really,
that's where we are in the world. I think one
of the biggest divining points are do you have intellectual
integrity and are you willing to take responsibility for your
own actions?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Period?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Total?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
To be fair, she just said, I don't want to
win Pennsylvania, so I don't want him. That was Pennsylvania.
Just don't like the state. Don't like it.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
She's amazing, and she's a cherish and she's a wonderful person.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Because I mean, I don't have so much content waves
and the levers of.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Power as how much as going to wait for levels
of power, And I'm all in, well, she's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm gonna have to get your votes here, mister Toto,
Jasmin Krockett, Don Lemon, Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Gotta go with Hillary. Hillary's the vote, Denver.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Floor, Don Lemon, get your Constitution and everything else in
history straight.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Mister all right, build a two vote count yours as well.
Five seven, seven, three nine. We'll have our Friday Fool
of the Week announced at the end of the day's program.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Stay tuned. I'm shrewling live rolls on after this
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