October 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Weekly segment featuring Deborah Flora and Christian Toto in-studio with a conservative eye on the entertainment industry, focusing on a culture shift away from woke ideology in music, film, and television.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up on what ground.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm shocked shocked to find the gambling is going on
in here, so thank you very much, everybody out had run.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So subtle there at the end one of the all
time classics, Casablanca in nineteen forty two. You heard Debrah
Flora laughing there Claude Rains as Captain Luis A. Renault,
the little subtle part at the end there the writing
and this is you're winning, sir, Like totally, I'm shocked.
Bob Ryan Boston Globe uses that line. He would be
(00:28):
on a part of the interruption all the time, he is.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm shocked, shocked, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That very lying.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's so phil Noir.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Everything back then would so quick, so you know everything
was back for and they made it work him though
no one actually talks that way.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's always so fast pace and it's just it just
makes you smile and laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And of course Humphrey Bogard and the role of Rick,
he's just trying to run himself a cafe and casino
there Casa blank and Morocco shocked. Kristin Toto, your thoughts
on that movie, just as we're kind of touching on
it here. I'll explain why in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, it's almost hard to process it because it's
so iconic. Everything about it, the quotes, the music, everything
is just it's ingrained in our culture. It's almost would
be weird to watch it with fresh eyes today, like
to talk to you, maybe a son or a grandson's, hey,
you should watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean it just even process it.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's it's larger than life.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, he's looking at you, kid.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, here's one word of caution.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We were talking ahead of time, Christian and I about
how they remake everything.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Please don't remake cause you can't.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It is purely a movie of its time. Even when
ingerbirb is sitting there and there's like the palm shadow
right behind or I mean everything that the gloss that
actually they put like vasseline over the lens to make
her always look you know, fuzzy, and or just don't
remake it, just let it be.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now I were starting, there's actually for a nefarious and
dark reason that it took me down this rabbit hole.
But while am I kind of glad I went down it.
It's a silver lining in the cloud that was Chauncey
Billups yesterday and that affects so many in our listening
audience says he's a progate to the University of Colorado.
Buff's legend has done so much for the community around here,
for kids. He did it in Metro Detroit two where
(02:07):
I come from. He is an icon as a Detroit
Pistons legend, as an NBA Finals MVP, as a Hall
of Famer for the Detroit Pistons. They go into work
two thousand and four world champion Detroit Pistons, And so
I decided on this edition of the Right Side of
Hollywood we talk about the intersection. You hear that in
the intro. Usually it's pop culture and entertainment. The intersection
(02:28):
here though, in film of gambling, the Mafia and sports.
And little did I know one of my perfect favorite
phrases from the Will Ferrell movie with a Dustin Hoffman
not right where he's with Dustin Hoffman. I'm trying to
think early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It'll come to me, you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, no, no, no, it's that little phrase. Little did
I know. Emma Thompson's in it too. She writes a
book and everything that she writes, and it happens to
Farrell's character in real life. Oh I remember, yeah, famous
kaping out. It's killing me, no killing me. We'll find
it well while Debra's searching for that. Yes, we've got
so many films here, it might take us both segments,
(03:12):
but the first one that was the most like, right
on the money, right on the nose.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Debora go stranger than fiction. I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
At Las Friday. It's Friday, but it's not five o'clock
somewhere for Deborah yet, please for me. Apparently it rained
true for me, and I only thought of this late
in the day from twenty nineteen, so we're only talking
six years ago. Adam Sandler goes dark in this role,
and I found it to be fascinating and interesting. I'm
a big fan of his anyway. This film, I believe
got mixed reviews, but I found it to be very good,
(03:42):
very cutting edge, and a big departure for Adam Sandler.
Uncut gems and this is a scene where he's sitting
down with Kevin Garnett about betting on an NBA game.
So it's about as close as you're going to get
to real life what we just experienced yesterday. With the
FBI bust of four out of the far I have
crime families and the mafia consorting with Chauncey Billups to
(04:03):
rig poker games. Now, I also didn't realize how many
profanities I would have to bleep out of some of these,
And this is one of those of my apologies in
advance for that. But they're all cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You want to win by one point of thirty points? KG?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Right, I see out there when the fucking stadiums all
booing you you're thirty up, you're still going full tilt.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Let's see what babies?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What is Vegas got you guys at today?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Take a look. Let's see? Are you gonna put us
up right here? The six isn't supposed to win the
game tonight? They think I don't keep tracking on it.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
They think game seven, you're not gonna give an eighteen points.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
They don't think you're gonna give eight rebound? What they do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Does that make you want to kill them?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Doesn't that make you want to say you for doubting me?
Does that make you want to step on Elton Brands
from neck? Come on, KG, this is no different than that.
This is me all right, I'm not a This is
my way. This is how I win. This is how
I win. Christian, what did you make of that film?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It's true if at the beginning of the beginning the
film is actually so chaotic, I almost bailed out. It's
a lot of noise, a lot of verbal things going on.
It just felt uncomfortable that it settles in. What's so
interesting about this whole subject is the intersection of power.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And greed and money and.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Corruption and human frailty. And you know, you think about
people who have lots and lots of money, you think,
oh my gosh, I want to be a person with
lots and lots of money. What a wonderful life that
would be. And then you think, oh my gosh, what
are they striving for? What are they reaching for? What
makes them get up in the morning. They don't have
that often because they've got a lot of these things
taking care of them for them. And I think that
(05:45):
that pushes people into places where they start to take
risks that they should never ever ever take.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Did you see this film?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But what I think about is interesting on the timing,
and by the way, just that clip of Adam Sandler
is some of the best darker acting he's done. I mean,
it just sounded really authentic the way he was saying it,
as much as I could hear, because you had to
be on the beat by. But what I think is
interesting that was made in twenty nineteen. You know, sports
were legalized by the Supreme Court ruling in twenty eighteen
(06:15):
sports gambling, let's gr and so when this was made
in twenty nineteen, they're already diving into this subject.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Obviously now we are. No one really, I.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Think, is surprised about this huge headline that came out
in twenty twenty five yesterday. Actually, my only thing is
I was surprised that the FBI is actually starting to
look back again into organized crime and not into school
board people speaking like myself, which is good. But I
think it's interesting because it's obviously prescient. This movie was
in twenty nineteen, and that desperation, all of that, and
(06:47):
here we are if.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You haven't seen it, as Debra has not, and it
this kind of got slipped through the cracks a little bit.
I really think Uncut Gems is itself perhaps an uncut
gem for a lot of people out there. And I
think christ and I would both recommend it, So Siskel
and Ebert two thumbs up.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Absolutely, He's a good film and boy. Adam Sailor has
got incredible range. Listen he films in with some of
his lesser commedies. Yeah yeah, I get this one, not
this one at all. And he's really been reborn in
the last five ten years, and it's been fun to
watch him. He did his special law and Netflix only
comedy special. I think it's called one hundred percent Fun.
It's one of the best hours of stand I've ever seen.
It's actually a sweet memory of Chris Farley. It's just
(07:26):
beautifully crafted, and it's a guy who's like, heck with it,
I want to really just give it my all again.
And I guess that's a waxing and waning with careers,
but it's just good for him.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I saw him perform at Ball Arena, the very act
that you're talking about. It was sweet. It's very touching.
You can tell his friends mean a lot to him,
Marlene and Rob Schneider. But he's very loyal with the
Norm McDonald's May Carl's friend of his. It's one of
my favorite guys in Hollywood Plank Blank, Adam Sandler, just
all the stories that I've heard about him, kind of
like Gary Sinise, you never heard a bad word about him.
This film really got back into my consciousness, and it
(07:59):
begs the question is we into it? For both Deborah
and Christian, for you the listeners, to ponder, why is
it Certain sports and I'll name a couple really translate
well to film and baseball certainly one of them. Boxing
is another, and maybe horse racing. So I'm thinking those
are like old tiny sports that were popular in the
early twentieth century, might lend itself to nostalgia, to storytelling.
(08:20):
The natural certainly was that. And how about this what
you're about to hear? It's Robert Redford who just passed
as Roy Hobbs. You have Gus Sands, the character a
nefarious one himself, Darren McGavin uncredited in this film, such
a consequential character, and especially in this scene and one
before it, and playing the role of Memo Paris a
(08:40):
very young, very beautiful, very talented Kim Besinger. This was
a seminal moment in the movie. You look a little lost.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (08:52):
He drops this in your way out.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Something seems amiss.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Correct me if I'm wrong, Hobbes, but we had.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
A d.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, those are your winnings.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Lugger's the gag, Hobbs, pick it up, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Hey, if it isn't enough money, you tell us what
you got in mind to get away? You thought I
could rely on your ana, Hobbs, you're about to You're
a foolish, foolish man.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
You'll forgotten something.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You're past. I don't care. Go on and get on
the phone. No, that won't be necessary. I like the action.
Then let it ride.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Be bastard. I hate you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I hate you.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You were a right memo.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
We have met before. You know you're a lot weaker
than I thought. What do you think this changes? Why
did you have Max draw your picture? You can read
about it in the morning paper. You were yesterday's news kid,
got a great gift of talent, but it's not enough.
(10:27):
I think you're a loser.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Darren mcgavn's so good. You might remember him more so
from a Christmas story, But he takes a bad guy turn. Here.
The Max that's mentioned sportswriter kind of a shady sword
played by Robert Duvall. So this cast is Willford Brimley
as Pops the Manager. This was the very first film,
Christian that I want to see you with my mom
in nineteen eighty four, and it evokes such great memory.
(10:50):
She was such a big fan of Robert Redford and
she thought I would enjoy a baseball movie, and boy
did I. But I don't think at age ten I
knew what I was getting into.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's one of the beautiful, beautiful things that I get older,
does not many of the mother. But you have that
memory and then go back to the movie and watch
it again with fresh eyes and have the nostalgic pull,
but then have the wisdom to say, oh my gosh,
there's so much else going on here. I appreciate the performances,
appreciate that sort of the context what's going on. Probably
fewer bleeps in that scene, by the way, which that's
(11:20):
for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think one of the thing that is interesting about
the Naturals it gets to the heart of what we're
talking about here with the gambling sports scandal that just
came out. The natural really is the fight between that
purity of sport, which is that bringing out the best
in an individual in their integrity and all of that
and striving to be the very best meritocracy. You know,
(11:44):
you're just seeing that excellence and those who are constantly
trying to corrupt it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And at the end, this has the happy ending that
we don't see too often in real life unfortunately, But
that's really what draws people to want to root for
the home team. Why does see somebody do something excellently?
And I think the twenty eighteen you know law now
or overturning the law to make this gambling widespread on
sports is sucking so much of that purity out of
(12:13):
the athletic arena.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
There goes Roy Hobbes, the best hitter that ever was.
That's what he wanted little kids to say about him.
Now that's borrowed from Ted Williams who said that as
a member of the Boston Red Sox. And I just
love Wilfred Brimley in this film as the manager. He's
perfect in that role and he just looks like, you're
the best damn hitter I ever saw. And with that
earnestness and the oatmeal commercial and I'm coming right out there.
So the natural nineteen eighty four if you haven't seen it, Zach.
(12:36):
Have you seen that one yet?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
No, it's on my list.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh you got him, man, You'll love it. You will
love it. Man. And this was a recommendation from Deborah,
and it's where my mind immediately went to because I
believe that the NBA doesn't even know how deep this
is going to go. Right the controversy and the FBI
announcement from yesterday, and it harkens back to nineteen nineteen,
a Black Sox scandal that nearly ended Major League Baseball,
(13:01):
but four the actions of Kanesaw Mountain landis portrayed in
this scene after the eight men in question went on trial,
members of the Chicago White Sox accused of throwing the
nineteen nineteen World Series to the Cincinnati Reds, and they
thought they had won.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
The clean side.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Joe, see some more Monday.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
But you people in Chicago got some, Laura and Bird.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
We're talking about Nicklas for your monsters.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
What I tell you, Bucky was in the bag all
the time, regardless of the verdict of jury's no player
who throws the ballgame, no player who undertakes or promises
to throw a game, no player who sits in conference
(13:54):
with a bunch of crooked players and gamblers.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
We're the ways and means of doing a ball game.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
We're discussed and does not properly tell us club about it.
Will ever play professional baseball again?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But you can't see the juxtaposition of this scene, the
seriousness of that announcement as you heard it, and the
eight men out who are celebrating, thinking they won the case.
But they may have won it legally, they didn't win
it with Major League Baseball. And my thought, Debora, I'm
so glad you brought this to mine. Does Adams Silver,
the commissioner of the NBA, have a Knnesaw mountain Landist
moment in him or will he need to?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's a great question because when you think about this,
the biggest crisis at the end of the throwing of
the you know, the the game this period was Can
major League Baseball come back from it? Can people trust it?
Can there be integrity in this sport again? And it's
interesting because when you look at what happened with the NBA.
The NBA actually investigated Roser Terry Roser in twenty twenty
(14:59):
three after suspected betting and did not find a violation
of the NBA rules.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So I think this is going to go very deep
and it's going to be a lot more about how
do we regain integrity in the sport, particularly in a
world now where you know, sports gambling is so rampant.
But what happened after the Eight Man Out, which is
the movie that you just played, which was the Chicago
Black Sox scandal, was they did replace I think it's
(15:26):
called the National Baseball Counsel or something. They replaced it
with a commissioner. They actually made a change. I think
we'll watch and see what changes fundamentally happen in the
structure of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Christian like with eight Men Out in Major League Baseball
of its time, now a little over one hundred years later,
the very integrity of the competition in the NBA right
now is that question. It's in peril. And to Debra's point,
the legalized betting sites. Oh, I think that you know,
Cad Cunningham is going to get thirteen rebounds today. Who
knows how many other players might be on the take,
might have been asked to be on the take. I
(16:02):
wouldn't bet on the NBA right now.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You know, it's sometimes stories are overplayed it's for clicks.
There's angles that are sillacious.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This feels like a.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Huge story, and I think it's not gonna just stop
with the NBA. I think it's gonna be spreading far
and wide.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And yet, you know, we swallow a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We swallow the egos, We swallowed the massive contracts, we
swallow the high ticket prices. There's so much of the
modern sports fan just has to endure for the love
of the game. But this, this cuts to everything. And
that's where there's a significant problem, a little bit of
the steroid situation. There's aggressive, intensive testing that goes on. Now.
I assume it still goes on. There does because I
(16:42):
haven't hurt anybody, gonna run a foul a bit. But
they needed that that sort of policy to say, Okay,
we're not gonna have these ridiculous ballooning home run records
an he needs. I mean, you've got to really draw
a significant line in the sand to make sure this
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We've got three more examples, but not enough time in
this segment, So we're going to go to break early here.
I'll handle that, Zach in live time here on the radio.
Deborah Flora Christian Toto with me the right side of Hollywood.
Our nominees for our Friday Fool of the Week. Narrow
those down during the break, you two, you got some
work to do.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh back with more after this.
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Speaker 7 (19:02):
We do with collaborators. I think his corporation someing. My
fantasy dream is that this nightmare ends in twenty twenty nine,
and I think we are to have radical thing. I
think they all are to have their head shaven. They
should be put into orange pajamas and it shul speak,
(19:22):
march down Pennsylvania Avenue, and the public should be invited.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
To spit out them.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The universities, the corporations, the law firms, all of these
collaborators should be shaved, pajamined and spit out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
One another week. It was for our Friday Fool of
the Week nominees in a whittle eight down to three
maybe four, and James Carvill the raging Kegen disappointing here
Christian because he had become kind of one of the
somewhat normal members of the left that we're pushing back
against the wolk stuff, the trans ideology, et cetera. And
then he comes out with this.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, he kind of flips on every other week. Sometimes
he's sound and sage, other times he's this. If you're
a professional broadcaster of any kind, podcaster or TV wherever
you are, and your guest says these things, you give
them a little given a tote bag and just say listen,
I can't wait to speak to you again. And then
you take his name and his contact and erase them
from your rolodex. Whatever, so cyber or otherwise, this is
(20:16):
not really what a professional should be doing. This is
really declaring that this is a person who needs to
kind of go off by himself.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What audience, Deborah, is this for? For James Carville?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You know, this is really shocking to me because James
Carvill was the one that at least was trying to
guide the Democrat Party to some sort of introspection. Where
have you lost American support? Perhaps these wild things you're
saying are not resonating. I mean, and I really thought, okay,
he's an old school Democrat. But instead of the Democrat
Party leaving him, which I thought it was doing, he
(20:48):
is now running headlong into the crazy direction. And you
think about the terminology. It is so bizarre. He has
a fantasy dream. And when he said, you know what
we do with collaborators, this sounds like something straight out
of World War Two. I gotta be honest. And he
talks about shaving their heads, putting them in orange pajamas
and marching them down the street and being spit upon.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean, we were looking at Christian. How old is this, gentleman?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because there is a point in time where your filter
goes away and what you're really thinking just starts coming out.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But I don't think that's even it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think he's an intelligent individual, and I don't know
whether he's been so in the thick of it that
he now believes this. But you just don't use your
outside voice when you say that, and that's your fantasy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Keep it to yourself, because it is.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Absolutely antithetical to the constitution of the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So there was laughing. There was laughing that was going on.
The host whoever's al.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Hunt or he's another old guy the podcast? Yeah, how
to do a Posn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We wanted to mean people and and lock people up
for the word collaborators.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I read this point earlier this week. That's a dog
whistle for Nazi. That's the word you think it is.
That's a association and just left the Nazi up.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know what it means, he's collaborators. Yes, that is
really frightening.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So James Carville nominee number one. He made it to
our final circle. Here another one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
She's very proud.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm sure that he should be. She should be, probably
because she's been ignored by us for the last several months.
I want I can't believe this, Mika Brazinski MSNBC Joe
Scarborough's main squeeze. She is highlighting the competence of female
candidates for governor in New Jersey and Virginian is asking,
you know what, why can't women win elections? There's an obvious,
(22:31):
glaring point on this that Christian will make when we
come out of the other side.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
One of the biggest problems facing Mikey Cheryl's bid for
governor may have nothing to do with Mikey Cheryl and
everything to do with a certain pundit class miasma about
the supposed unelectability of women. After all, this is a
party that has run two super competent women for president
on its ticket, and they both lost against mister Trump.
(23:00):
Democrats twenty twenty five. Big bets is on the National
Security mom. There's also an offia election in Virginia where
Abigail Spenberger, a former House member and CIA officer, checks
similar competent centrist boxes. Both are being asked to save
the party while simultaneously being questioned about their electability. That's
code for how sexist is the electorate?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, Christian, first thing she lost me at how very
competent Kamala Harris was let's get serious from it. You
could argue that Hillary Clinton super competent. You can't argue
that for Kamala Harris. Now she was reading from an
article written by her panelist, Molly john Fast. But the
point that you made during the previous break is to.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears is running against her, and
I'm pretty sure she's a.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Lady lately by the way.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Pretty sure ninety nine percent anctar there. But it really
does show you the poison of identity politics. And you listen, recently,
Barry White took over CBS News. Now, in any sane world,
according to the left, a lesbian woman who is you know,
probably the first person of her kind to take over
an August institution.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like the CBS News.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
She wasn't celebrated, she was attacked of anything correct, But
there was never that story first so and so makes
history as X.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It just it's it just shows.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
You how how transparently wrong it is, how toxic it is,
and how full of blanket is stay.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
In that identity politics silo, because for all their pomp
and circumstance, celebrating, complaining everything else. In the middle of
all this, Deborah wistom Earl sears, if elected, would be
the first black female governor in the history of the country.
Where's the Democrats on that one?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And on top of it, by the way, she was
a marine. I mean, can we talk about competent. This
woman is amazing, and they the blind the blinders they
put on when it is not a Democrat, nothing implies
to anybody that doesn't share their viewpoint. It is absolutely
i'd say stunning, but it's really not.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
James Carvill, Mika Brazinski and our third nominee. This one
got Debora so fired up.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
She went on, X, here's Jen Saki offering to help
and save Usha Vance from her husband, the vice president.
Speaker 11 (25:23):
The little Mentoran candidate Jade Vance wants to be president
more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I always wonder what's going on in the mind.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Of his wife, like you're okay, please bring blank four times,
we'll come over here, We'll save you, and that he's
willing to do anything to get there, and that your
whole iteration you're just outlined. I mean, he's scarier in
certain ways, he's smart in some ways, and he's young
and ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that
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he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he
thinks the audience wants to hear from him.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They were using their metric do you need to be
saved from Johnny?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It is so shocking to me.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I mean, the feminist movement is so corrupt, in the bankrupt,
morallyan otherwise, to look at a strong woman like Usha Vance,
who by the way, graduated from the vaulted Universities of Yale,
has her jurisprudence degree, she clerked for several federal judges
who are now Supreme Court justices. This amazing strong woman,
(26:29):
and because she seems to be happily married to an
an equally strong man, oh, she needs rescuing.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It is so shocking to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Me because really the goal for the feminist movement, quoting it,
was that a woman could be everything, have it all. No,
you can't have it all if you're actually happily married
to a man who is also strong, who, by the way,
strong women actually appreciate that. It's I don't know, it
just drives me crazy, and it just shows if you
actually do believe that marriage is important and you respect
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your husband oh gosh, you need rescuing. No blinking coming
from me, and I doubt there is any blinking coming
from Usha Vant's either.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They should just be ashamed of there's a ross to me, Christian.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It's so insulting, like for other reasons you just said,
And it's not the first time. And they treated Malania
Trump this way wan and off. Oh yeah, I think
they alternately attack her as a monster and then say, oh,
that poor girl, she must want to get out, and
never giving given these women the agency to say they
can do what they want and they've made their own choices.
And by the way, talking about blinking multiple times, how
about Hillary Clinton having to go in national TV and
(27:35):
defend her husband while he's out there doing whatever he
did with Monica Lewinsky. That's embarrassing. Yeah, that's something you
should be thinking about. But of course she was strong
and powerful and brave.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Because she was a Democrat. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
James Carville, Meeka Brazenski, Jensaki your choices for a Friday
Fool of the Week. You can vote five, seven, seven,
three nine. I got a bonus nominee to go to
break with because he's in two of the three films
we hope to cover and we come back or Hollywood.
It's all time acclaimed actors. But really he's fallen upon
hard times. Do entirely to himself. Here's this take from
Robert de Niro.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
We see it, we see it, we see it every
we see it all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
He will not want to leave.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
He set it up with his.
Speaker 12 (28:16):
I guess he's the gebbles of the cabinets, Stephen Miller.
He's he's a Nazi, Yes he is, and he's Jewish
and he should be ashamed.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Of himself, the Jewish Nazi Stephen Miller on the Trump
administration staff. Robert de Niro will think of better times
for him. We come back on the right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 13 (28:46):
Four wheel seventy across three fifteen thousand dollars jackpots.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Do you have any idea what the odds are? Shoot,
it's got to be in the millions, maybe more.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Jackpots in twenty minutes. Why did you pull the machines?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Why don't you call them?
Speaker 9 (28:57):
What happened so quick? Three guys won't have a chance
to call you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
See the scam? You didn't see what was going on?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Well, there's no way to determine that that's that is
an infallible way.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They won.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
What's a casino? People got to win sometimes?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hey, what if you're pissing me off?
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Now you're in something my intelligence?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What are you thinking about?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
You're an idiot, you know.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
Damn well, somebody to get into those machines and set
those and reels probably, and one four wheel machine is
a million and a half to one on three machines in
a row's in a billions.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It cannot happen.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
What not happened?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And momo, what's the matter with you?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
And you see you being set up on a second win?
Speaker 13 (29:27):
I really wait, you didn't see that you were being
set up on a second win?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I really think you're.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
Overreacting to and you'll had it with you up and
Cary and your rass in this place ever since I
got it. Get your ass and get your things and
get out of here.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
You're firing me. I'm firing you.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know I'm not firing. I'm firing you.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
You might regretless, mister Ross saying.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I'll regret it even more if I keep you on.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
There's enough way to treat people.
Speaker 13 (29:47):
Listen, if you didn't know, you'd be a scam and
too dumb to keep this job. If you didn't know
you were in on either way you are route, get.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Out, Go on, let's go. What a great scene Robert
de Niro's eight ross scene and casino and the follow
up for Martin Scorsese from Goodfellas in that mafia kind
of genre and could he do a noncore And I
don't think it's the equal of Goodfellas, but it's outstanding
film in its own right. And the juxtaposition Christian of
(30:12):
John Bloom is that country bunk and Don Ward I overreacting.
It makes the scene right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It's a great clash of styles and temperaments. And that's
what DeNiro does best. I mean that that's him at
his finest. And he's been a great actor for so
many years. And uh, you know, he's done some sillier
stuff in recent years. I think you get older, you
can't you don't get the A list scripts anymore. Though
he's still kind of will uncork a good performance Killers
of the Flower Moon recently. It's as good as it gets, man,
(30:40):
I mean, and you know that one. It does live
under the shadow of Goodfellas, but also gave.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Sharon Stone a great performance. I think she was also
nominated for that as well. Did she win No, I
don't think she was definitely nominated.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, she should have won that, but you know, she
was considered just a beauty and that really showed her
what she can do. So you know, when you when
you get the right director and you got you know,
actors are so malleable. They can bring it when they
when all when all the stars aligned. Great actor, great script,
cut direction.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So Deborah de Niro in this film, that scene in particular,
why I picked at the gambling elements kind of the
theme of the day and the way the FBI bust
of the NBA and Chauncey Phillips. But it's a turning
point in that movie as well.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I think it's a great scene.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
But when I do think about the theme of the day,
because we start with the NBA NBA sports betting. If
you want to know one reason why you shouldn't ever
gamble there, it is I mean, because you got the
expert saying nobody's supposed to win. You know, it's a
million to one, And I think we all need to
realize that it is an addiction that's created because everything's
there that one in one million shot, right, But I
(31:38):
just listened to it. I'm like, Wow, everyone who is
a gambling addiction should listen to that clip.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's against me. I shouldn't do it now.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
There wasn't a lot of gambling in Goodfellas, but I
couldn't leave it out this scene. The characters involved are gambling.
They're playing a game of poker. I believe there's sports
betting within it the whole context of the mafia. And
for my money, this is the greatest film of all time,
Good Fellas and Spider. This is his short kind of
cameo in the movie, played by Michael Imperioli, who would
(32:08):
go on to portray Christopher molto Sante in The Sopranos, Tell.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
It you would you look for sympathy?
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's sweetie? Won't you go for yourself to.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Right what I just right.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
For you?
Speaker 9 (32:25):
A boy respect, But he's got a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Of bulls cook for you.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Don't take nobody just shoots some.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Of the.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Id get away with fun, get away with them.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Sat what's the world coming to.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
The world is coming to it?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
How's that all right? What's the matter.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
The matter with you?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
What are you?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Stupid?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
One?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Tom how kidding would you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What the are you doing?
Speaker 9 (32:58):
What the sick maniac growing up? If you kid?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What do you mean you kidding?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
You break the uphet it with you?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
You can shoot the guy did.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Shot?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
You miss it?
Speaker 9 (33:13):
You got a problem with what I did? Anthony right anyway.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
No floe, Rats would have proved to be.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
A rats stupid best that.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I can't believe you are you.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Gonna take the thing up?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're gonna take the whole You're gonna do it.
Speaker 13 (33:25):
I got no lime you're gonna take the I don't
give up.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
But the first of all, I does.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Show now Deborah Joe Patty shines in this movie. Is Tommy.
A couple of things why I think this is the
greatest film ever made. The music is a character even
in this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Scene, noting that it's great to hear it, see it, and.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It makes you focus on it more when you can't
see the scene. That's one of the reasons I love
playing these for people. As you listen, like you notice
things that you wouldn't normally hear. The other part about
this film and that character Tommy is somehow at the
end when he spoiler alert gets act, we feel so
kind of sympathy for this guy, like, oh man, this
is too bad.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, you know, it's interesting because when you look at
gangster movies, obviously there's a violence to and all that,
but when you get into the world, and this is
what The Godfather did. They did not make a gangster movie.
They made a movie about a family and their business,
so they take you into It's one of the reasons
byb a hard time with gangster movies because they actually
make you.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Care about some of these characters.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
But what's so shocking about this moment is it shows
how violence is just a part of every single aspect
of there that normal barrier that normal people have against
just automatically committing violence.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's not there. It's their job, it's their day jobs.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's going to pop out when somebody laughs at them
in the wrong way. I think. In that way, it's
shocking and it's it's a quintessential moment. And boy, your
finger must be tired from that bleep button.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, that one really warming out. Yes, But Tommy, the
character portrayed by Jodan Pashi, total psychopath, but again a
fascinating character. We see Michael Imperiolias is so much texture
to this film. Christian that scene, how it stands out,
how it fits into the whole film itself. By the way, I.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Don't have lime in my car or my house, So
if I tomorrow, I gotta go find it.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I gotta go to home Depa.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
What I find switching about the Gangster movies is that
one of the reasons why we're attracted them is they
have a code. There is an honor there, there is
a connection, There is a loyalty, there's a commitment, and
in a weird way, it is unbreakable at times. And
I think that de Niro was saying that Petci broke,
broke the code, did the wrong thing now because he
kills someone because you just don't do that, it's not
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going to work out for them.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That fascinates me.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And I think the loyalty they will do anything for
our brother kind of a that that really resonates with us,
and that that's why you care about him sometimes because
even though he's a monster, there's a little kernel of
yourself that enjoys, recognizes, respects that bond and the.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Consequences are shown too. Debrah with the whole bill the
bat scene and you know that hair trigger temper of Tommy's.
It really costs them.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It does.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And I think the difference why I like the trilogy
of The Godfather is because the first Godfather he dies
in a happy way because he's stuck to a code.
Why does at the end Michael die alone by himself
in a courtyard, which is the best morality moment of
a tale. Is because he broke the code. He went
too far, he killed his brother, he did all that.
So so when a character breaks the code, then they
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come to that ending.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
This is perhaps one of the greatest scenes of all time.
I mean this, this film's full of them. And if
Goodfellows is my one, A, the Godfather, the trilogy, and
in particular the first two are my one, B's and
c or whatever you want to do. But this is
the casino tie in. In fact, this is at the
bridge between the first Godfather and the second, when Michael
becomes the Boss and he is operating under a code
(36:51):
like we talked about, but he's running business a little
bit different than his father. Vito Corleone, did I love Fellas?
Everybody too? Freddy?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So I'm see your Mike.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
How am I to get everything you want?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
The chef cook for you special.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
The dances will kick your tongue out, and your credit
is good step to.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Everybody in the room. So I think I'm play in
the house.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I credit good enough to buy you out a casino.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
The hotel Collon family wants to buy you out.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
The Coloni wants to buy me out.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I'd buy you out.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You don't buy me out.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Your casino loses money. Maybe we can do better.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
You think I'm skimming off the top of Mike.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You're unlucky.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
You cool damn guineas really make me laugh.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I do you a favorite.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Take Freddie and when you're having a bad time, and
then you try to push me out.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
You took Freddy in because the Corlli owned family bank
rolled your casino, because a Moni family on the coast
guarantee his safety.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Now we're talking business. Let's talk business.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, let's talk business.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
Mike.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
First of all, you're all done.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The Coyone family don't even have that kind of muscle anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
The Godfather is sick, right, You're getting chased out of
New York by buys he.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
And the other families. Who do you think is going
on here? You think he can come to my hotel
and take over. I talked to Buzzy. I can make
the deal with him and still keep my hotel.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Is that why you slapped my brother around in public?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh no, that was nothing, Mike.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
Now now now, molded mean nothing by that. Sure he
FLEs off the hand him once in a while, but
money were good friends right now, huh.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I got a business to run.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I got a kick asses sometimes to make a run.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We had a little agmid fordy night, so I had
to straighten them out.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
You streaking my brother around?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
He was boring cocktail wages as two at a time pays.
Come and get a drink at the table. What's wrong
with you? I leave in New York tomorrow. Think about
a price. Do you know who I am? I'm more Green.
I made my bones when.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
You were going out with cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Wait a minute more, Oh, I get an idea, Tim
the other consider ery and you can.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Talk to the Din.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You can expust him into the don as semi retired
and Mike is in charge of the family business. Now,
have anything to say, save it to Michael.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Mike, you don't come to Las Vegas and talk to
a man like Mo Green like that.
Speaker 12 (39:33):
You're my older brother, and I love you, but don't
ever take sides with anyone against the family again.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
He al Pacino masterful performance there. Alex Rocco as Moe
Green later known as the Moe Green Special that movie
He's signed his death certificate when he said, I met
with BARZENI oh bye bye.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What can you say, Deborah? It's just great.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I was telling you Christian about this too. If you've
not seen the limited series The Offer about the making
of The Godfather, great, it's amazing. Robert Evans is portrayed
in that and by Matthew Good phenomenal. Miles Tayler plays
the director, and it is just beautifully done. It's you know,
(40:26):
you don't We don't need to make a lot of
movies about making movies, but that was a great one.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It's a classic scene.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It's a classic morality tale and that is a great moment.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Christian.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
My favorite part of the Sopranos, and there's so many
great parts of the Sopranos is they used to refer
to Godfather Part one and Godfather Part two was one
and two.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Truth within the Mafia community. And if you watch the Offer,
the Mafia was consulted on this and they wanted it
to be, as Debora pointed out earlier, a family film,
and the fact that it was that and it was
just a thing them up, shoot them up, you know
kind of thing. They appreciated that because it gave context
to whatever it is that they're doing. Because you know,
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there's no such thing as the mafia. That's right.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
One time.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
By the way, the word is ever mentioned in the
entire movie. That was one of the prerequisites. Yes, the
Mafia would not allow the word mafia to be in
The Godfather, it's not used. It's the family, all that family.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, it's We started with Casablanca, we ending with The Godfather.
Those are two iconic movies that have entered the pop
cultural landscape that are given us so many phrases, so
many moments, so many everything. It's just you can't even
separate the two.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
It's just's just part of what we are.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
So I took this Chauncey billups Cloud and with the
help of you two, and we gave everybody a silver
line and everyone out there, you're welcome so real quick,
because I know we've gone along. I did that on purpose,
because you know we're gonna make the rules around here
a little bit just like the family. Would you know
what I mean? But your votes for Friday Full of
the Week very quickly. Just the names James Carville.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Carville and James Carville sweep.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, you can still vote though the listeners get a vote.
James Carvill, Mika Brazinski, Jensaki, and I threw in Robert
de Niro if you want to tribute there as he
called Stephen Miller a Nazi hotybee overdue for a time
out thanks to Deborah Flora, thanks to Christian Toto on
the right side of Hollywood. Jimmy Sangenberger joins me next
as we shift back to Ryan Schuling Live
Up on what ground.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm shocked shocked to find the gambling is going on
in here, so thank you very much, everybody out had run.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So subtle there at the end one of the all
time classics, Casablanca in nineteen forty two. You heard Debrah
Flora laughing there Claude Rains as Captain Luis A. Renault,
the little subtle part at the end there the writing
and this is you're winning, sir, Like totally, I'm shocked.
Bob Ryan Boston Globe uses that line. He would be
(00:28):
on a part of the interruption all the time, he is.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm shocked, shocked, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That very lying.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's so phil Noir.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Everything back then would so quick, so you know everything
was back for and they made it work him though
no one actually talks that way.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's always so fast pace and it's just it just
makes you smile and laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And of course Humphrey Bogard and the role of Rick,
he's just trying to run himself a cafe and casino
there Casa blank and Morocco shocked. Kristin Toto, your thoughts
on that movie, just as we're kind of touching on
it here. I'll explain why in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, it's almost hard to process it because it's
so iconic. Everything about it, the quotes, the music, everything
is just it's ingrained in our culture. It's almost would
be weird to watch it with fresh eyes today, like
to talk to you, maybe a son or a grandson's, hey,
you should watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean it just even process it.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's it's larger than life.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, he's looking at you, kid.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, here's one word of caution.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We were talking ahead of time, Christian and I about
how they remake everything.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Please don't remake cause you can't.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It is purely a movie of its time. Even when
ingerbirb is sitting there and there's like the palm shadow
right behind or I mean everything that the gloss that
actually they put like vasseline over the lens to make
her always look you know, fuzzy, and or just don't
remake it, just let it be.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now I were starting, there's actually for a nefarious and
dark reason that it took me down this rabbit hole.
But while am I kind of glad I went down it.
It's a silver lining in the cloud that was Chauncey
Billups yesterday and that affects so many in our listening
audience says he's a progate to the University of Colorado.
Buff's legend has done so much for the community around here,
for kids. He did it in Metro Detroit two where
(02:07):
I come from. He is an icon as a Detroit
Pistons legend, as an NBA Finals MVP, as a Hall
of Famer for the Detroit Pistons. They go into work
two thousand and four world champion Detroit Pistons, And so
I decided on this edition of the Right Side of
Hollywood we talk about the intersection. You hear that in
the intro. Usually it's pop culture and entertainment. The intersection
(02:28):
here though, in film of gambling, the Mafia and sports.
And little did I know one of my perfect favorite
phrases from the Will Ferrell movie with a Dustin Hoffman
not right where he's with Dustin Hoffman. I'm trying to
think early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It'll come to me, you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, no, no, no, it's that little phrase. Little did
I know. Emma Thompson's in it too. She writes a
book and everything that she writes, and it happens to
Farrell's character in real life. Oh I remember, yeah, famous
kaping out. It's killing me, no killing me. We'll find
it well while Debra's searching for that. Yes, we've got
so many films here, it might take us both segments,
(03:12):
but the first one that was the most like, right
on the money, right on the nose.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Debora go stranger than fiction. I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
At Las Friday. It's Friday, but it's not five o'clock
somewhere for Deborah yet, please for me. Apparently it rained
true for me, and I only thought of this late
in the day from twenty nineteen, so we're only talking
six years ago. Adam Sandler goes dark in this role,
and I found it to be fascinating and interesting. I'm
a big fan of his anyway. This film, I believe
got mixed reviews, but I found it to be very good,
(03:42):
very cutting edge, and a big departure for Adam Sandler.
Uncut gems and this is a scene where he's sitting
down with Kevin Garnett about betting on an NBA game.
So it's about as close as you're going to get
to real life what we just experienced yesterday. With the
FBI bust of four out of the far I have
crime families and the mafia consorting with Chauncey Billups to
(04:03):
rig poker games. Now, I also didn't realize how many
profanities I would have to bleep out of some of these,
And this is one of those of my apologies in
advance for that. But they're all cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You want to win by one point of thirty points? KG?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Right, I see out there when the fucking stadiums all
booing you you're thirty up, you're still going full tilt.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Let's see what babies?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What is Vegas got you guys at today?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Take a look. Let's see? Are you gonna put us
up right here? The six isn't supposed to win the
game tonight? They think I don't keep tracking on it.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
They think game seven, you're not gonna give an eighteen points.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
They don't think you're gonna give eight rebound? What they do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Does that make you want to kill them?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Doesn't that make you want to say you for doubting me?
Does that make you want to step on Elton Brands
from neck? Come on, KG, this is no different than that.
This is me all right, I'm not a This is
my way. This is how I win. This is how
I win. Christian, what did you make of that film?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It's true if at the beginning of the beginning the
film is actually so chaotic, I almost bailed out. It's
a lot of noise, a lot of verbal things going on.
It just felt uncomfortable that it settles in. What's so
interesting about this whole subject is the intersection of power.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And greed and money and.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Corruption and human frailty. And you know, you think about
people who have lots and lots of money, you think,
oh my gosh, I want to be a person with
lots and lots of money. What a wonderful life that
would be. And then you think, oh my gosh, what
are they striving for? What are they reaching for? What
makes them get up in the morning. They don't have
that often because they've got a lot of these things
taking care of them for them. And I think that
(05:45):
that pushes people into places where they start to take
risks that they should never ever ever take.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Did you see this film?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But what I think about is interesting on the timing,
and by the way, just that clip of Adam Sandler
is some of the best darker acting he's done. I mean,
it just sounded really authentic the way he was saying it,
as much as I could hear, because you had to
be on the beat by. But what I think is
interesting that was made in twenty nineteen. You know, sports
were legalized by the Supreme Court ruling in twenty eighteen
(06:15):
sports gambling, let's gr and so when this was made
in twenty nineteen, they're already diving into this subject.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Obviously now we are. No one really, I.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Think, is surprised about this huge headline that came out
in twenty twenty five yesterday. Actually, my only thing is
I was surprised that the FBI is actually starting to
look back again into organized crime and not into school
board people speaking like myself, which is good. But I
think it's interesting because it's obviously prescient. This movie was
in twenty nineteen, and that desperation, all of that, and
(06:47):
here we are if.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You haven't seen it, as Debra has not, and it
this kind of got slipped through the cracks a little bit.
I really think Uncut Gems is itself perhaps an uncut
gem for a lot of people out there. And I
think christ and I would both recommend it, So Siskel
and Ebert two thumbs up.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Absolutely, He's a good film and boy. Adam Sailor has
got incredible range. Listen he films in with some of
his lesser commedies. Yeah yeah, I get this one, not
this one at all. And he's really been reborn in
the last five ten years, and it's been fun to
watch him. He did his special law and Netflix only
comedy special. I think it's called one hundred percent Fun.
It's one of the best hours of stand I've ever seen.
It's actually a sweet memory of Chris Farley. It's just
(07:26):
beautifully crafted, and it's a guy who's like, heck with it,
I want to really just give it my all again.
And I guess that's a waxing and waning with careers,
but it's just good for him.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I saw him perform at Ball Arena, the very act
that you're talking about. It was sweet. It's very touching.
You can tell his friends mean a lot to him,
Marlene and Rob Schneider. But he's very loyal with the
Norm McDonald's May Carl's friend of his. It's one of
my favorite guys in Hollywood Plank Blank, Adam Sandler, just
all the stories that I've heard about him, kind of
like Gary Sinise, you never heard a bad word about him.
This film really got back into my consciousness, and it
(07:59):
begs the question is we into it? For both Deborah
and Christian, for you the listeners, to ponder, why is
it Certain sports and I'll name a couple really translate
well to film and baseball certainly one of them. Boxing
is another, and maybe horse racing. So I'm thinking those
are like old tiny sports that were popular in the
early twentieth century, might lend itself to nostalgia, to storytelling.
(08:20):
The natural certainly was that. And how about this what
you're about to hear? It's Robert Redford who just passed
as Roy Hobbs. You have Gus Sands, the character a
nefarious one himself, Darren McGavin uncredited in this film, such
a consequential character, and especially in this scene and one
before it, and playing the role of Memo Paris a
(08:40):
very young, very beautiful, very talented Kim Besinger. This was
a seminal moment in the movie. You look a little lost.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (08:52):
He drops this in your way out.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Something seems amiss.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Correct me if I'm wrong, Hobbes, but we had.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
A d.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, those are your winnings.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Lugger's the gag, Hobbs, pick it up, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Hey, if it isn't enough money, you tell us what
you got in mind to get away? You thought I
could rely on your ana, Hobbs, you're about to You're
a foolish, foolish man.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
You'll forgotten something.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You're past. I don't care. Go on and get on
the phone. No, that won't be necessary. I like the action.
Then let it ride.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Be bastard. I hate you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I hate you.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You were a right memo.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
We have met before. You know you're a lot weaker
than I thought. What do you think this changes? Why
did you have Max draw your picture? You can read
about it in the morning paper. You were yesterday's news kid,
got a great gift of talent, but it's not enough.
(10:27):
I think you're a loser.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Darren mcgavn's so good. You might remember him more so
from a Christmas story, But he takes a bad guy turn. Here.
The Max that's mentioned sportswriter kind of a shady sword
played by Robert Duvall. So this cast is Willford Brimley
as Pops the Manager. This was the very first film,
Christian that I want to see you with my mom
in nineteen eighty four, and it evokes such great memory.
(10:50):
She was such a big fan of Robert Redford and
she thought I would enjoy a baseball movie, and boy
did I. But I don't think at age ten I
knew what I was getting into.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's one of the beautiful, beautiful things that I get older,
does not many of the mother. But you have that
memory and then go back to the movie and watch
it again with fresh eyes and have the nostalgic pull,
but then have the wisdom to say, oh my gosh,
there's so much else going on here. I appreciate the performances,
appreciate that sort of the context what's going on. Probably
fewer bleeps in that scene, by the way, which that's
(11:20):
for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think one of the thing that is interesting about
the Naturals it gets to the heart of what we're
talking about here with the gambling sports scandal that just
came out. The natural really is the fight between that
purity of sport, which is that bringing out the best
in an individual in their integrity and all of that
and striving to be the very best meritocracy. You know,
(11:44):
you're just seeing that excellence and those who are constantly
trying to corrupt it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And at the end, this has the happy ending that
we don't see too often in real life unfortunately, But
that's really what draws people to want to root for
the home team. Why does see somebody do something excellently?
And I think the twenty eighteen you know law now
or overturning the law to make this gambling widespread on
sports is sucking so much of that purity out of
(12:13):
the athletic arena.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
There goes Roy Hobbes, the best hitter that ever was.
That's what he wanted little kids to say about him.
Now that's borrowed from Ted Williams who said that as
a member of the Boston Red Sox. And I just
love Wilfred Brimley in this film as the manager. He's
perfect in that role and he just looks like, you're
the best damn hitter I ever saw. And with that
earnestness and the oatmeal commercial and I'm coming right out there.
So the natural nineteen eighty four if you haven't seen it, Zach.
(12:36):
Have you seen that one yet?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
No, it's on my list.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh you got him, man, You'll love it. You will
love it. Man. And this was a recommendation from Deborah,
and it's where my mind immediately went to because I
believe that the NBA doesn't even know how deep this
is going to go. Right the controversy and the FBI
announcement from yesterday, and it harkens back to nineteen nineteen,
a Black Sox scandal that nearly ended Major League Baseball,
(13:01):
but four the actions of Kanesaw Mountain landis portrayed in
this scene after the eight men in question went on trial,
members of the Chicago White Sox accused of throwing the
nineteen nineteen World Series to the Cincinnati Reds, and they
thought they had won.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
The clean side.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Joe, see some more Monday.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
But you people in Chicago got some, Laura and Bird.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
We're talking about Nicklas for your monsters.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
What I tell you, Bucky was in the bag all
the time, regardless of the verdict of jury's no player
who throws the ballgame, no player who undertakes or promises
to throw a game, no player who sits in conference
(13:54):
with a bunch of crooked players and gamblers.
Speaker 9 (13:58):
We're the ways and means of doing a ball game.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
We're discussed and does not properly tell us club about it.
Will ever play professional baseball again?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But you can't see the juxtaposition of this scene, the
seriousness of that announcement as you heard it, and the
eight men out who are celebrating, thinking they won the case.
But they may have won it legally, they didn't win
it with Major League Baseball. And my thought, Debora, I'm
so glad you brought this to mine. Does Adams Silver,
the commissioner of the NBA, have a Knnesaw mountain Landist
moment in him or will he need to?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's a great question because when you think about this,
the biggest crisis at the end of the throwing of
the you know, the the game this period was Can
major League Baseball come back from it? Can people trust it?
Can there be integrity in this sport again? And it's
interesting because when you look at what happened with the NBA.
The NBA actually investigated Roser Terry Roser in twenty twenty
(14:59):
three after suspected betting and did not find a violation
of the NBA rules.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So I think this is going to go very deep
and it's going to be a lot more about how
do we regain integrity in the sport, particularly in a
world now where you know, sports gambling is so rampant.
But what happened after the Eight Man Out, which is
the movie that you just played, which was the Chicago
Black Sox scandal, was they did replace I think it's
(15:26):
called the National Baseball Counsel or something. They replaced it
with a commissioner. They actually made a change. I think
we'll watch and see what changes fundamentally happen in the
structure of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Christian like with eight Men Out in Major League Baseball
of its time, now a little over one hundred years later,
the very integrity of the competition in the NBA right
now is that question. It's in peril. And to Debra's point,
the legalized betting sites. Oh, I think that you know,
Cad Cunningham is going to get thirteen rebounds today. Who
knows how many other players might be on the take,
might have been asked to be on the take. I
(16:02):
wouldn't bet on the NBA right now.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You know, it's sometimes stories are overplayed it's for clicks.
There's angles that are sillacious.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This feels like a.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Huge story, and I think it's not gonna just stop
with the NBA. I think it's gonna be spreading far
and wide.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
And yet, you know, we swallow a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We swallow the egos, We swallowed the massive contracts, we
swallow the high ticket prices. There's so much of the
modern sports fan just has to endure for the love
of the game. But this, this cuts to everything. And
that's where there's a significant problem, a little bit of
the steroid situation. There's aggressive, intensive testing that goes on. Now.
I assume it still goes on. There does because I
(16:42):
haven't hurt anybody, gonna run a foul a bit. But
they needed that that sort of policy to say, Okay,
we're not gonna have these ridiculous ballooning home run records
an he needs. I mean, you've got to really draw
a significant line in the sand to make sure this
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We've got three more examples, but not enough time in
this segment, So we're going to go to break early here.
I'll handle that, Zach in live time here on the radio.
Deborah Flora Christian Toto with me the right side of Hollywood.
Our nominees for our Friday Fool of the Week. Narrow
those down during the break, you two, you got some
work to do.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh back with more after this.
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Speaker 7 (19:02):
We do with collaborators. I think his corporation someing. My
fantasy dream is that this nightmare ends in twenty twenty nine,
and I think we are to have radical thing. I
think they all are to have their head shaven. They
should be put into orange pajamas and it shul speak,
(19:22):
march down Pennsylvania Avenue, and the public should be invited.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
To spit out them.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The universities, the corporations, the law firms, all of these
collaborators should be shaved, pajamined and spit out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
One another week. It was for our Friday Fool of
the Week nominees in a whittle eight down to three
maybe four, and James Carvill the raging Kegen disappointing here
Christian because he had become kind of one of the
somewhat normal members of the left that we're pushing back
against the wolk stuff, the trans ideology, et cetera. And
then he comes out with this.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, he kind of flips on every other week. Sometimes
he's sound and sage, other times he's this. If you're
a professional broadcaster of any kind, podcaster or TV wherever
you are, and your guest says these things, you give
them a little given a tote bag and just say listen,
I can't wait to speak to you again. And then
you take his name and his contact and erase them
from your rolodex. Whatever, so cyber or otherwise, this is
(20:16):
not really what a professional should be doing. This is
really declaring that this is a person who needs to
kind of go off by himself.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What audience, Deborah, is this for? For James Carville?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You know, this is really shocking to me because James
Carvill was the one that at least was trying to
guide the Democrat Party to some sort of introspection. Where
have you lost American support? Perhaps these wild things you're
saying are not resonating. I mean, and I really thought, okay,
he's an old school Democrat. But instead of the Democrat
Party leaving him, which I thought it was doing, he
(20:48):
is now running headlong into the crazy direction. And you
think about the terminology. It is so bizarre. He has
a fantasy dream. And when he said, you know what
we do with collaborators, this sounds like something straight out
of World War Two. I gotta be honest. And he
talks about shaving their heads, putting them in orange pajamas
and marching them down the street and being spit upon.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean, we were looking at Christian. How old is this, gentleman?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because there is a point in time where your filter
goes away and what you're really thinking just starts coming out.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But I don't think that's even it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think he's an intelligent individual, and I don't know
whether he's been so in the thick of it that
he now believes this. But you just don't use your
outside voice when you say that, and that's your fantasy.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Keep it to yourself, because it is.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Absolutely antithetical to the constitution of the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So there was laughing. There was laughing that was going on.
The host whoever's al.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Hunt or he's another old guy the podcast? Yeah, how
to do a Posn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We wanted to mean people and and lock people up
for the word collaborators.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I read this point earlier this week. That's a dog
whistle for Nazi. That's the word you think it is.
That's a association and just left the Nazi up.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know what it means, he's collaborators. Yes, that is
really frightening.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So James Carville nominee number one. He made it to
our final circle. Here another one.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
She's very proud.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm sure that he should be. She should be, probably
because she's been ignored by us for the last several months.
I want I can't believe this, Mika Brazinski MSNBC Joe
Scarborough's main squeeze. She is highlighting the competence of female
candidates for governor in New Jersey and Virginian is asking,
you know what, why can't women win elections? There's an obvious,
(22:31):
glaring point on this that Christian will make when we
come out of the other side.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
One of the biggest problems facing Mikey Cheryl's bid for
governor may have nothing to do with Mikey Cheryl and
everything to do with a certain pundit class miasma about
the supposed unelectability of women. After all, this is a
party that has run two super competent women for president
on its ticket, and they both lost against mister Trump.
(23:00):
Democrats twenty twenty five. Big bets is on the National
Security mom. There's also an offia election in Virginia where
Abigail Spenberger, a former House member and CIA officer, checks
similar competent centrist boxes. Both are being asked to save
the party while simultaneously being questioned about their electability. That's
code for how sexist is the electorate?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, Christian, first thing she lost me at how very
competent Kamala Harris was let's get serious from it. You
could argue that Hillary Clinton super competent. You can't argue
that for Kamala Harris. Now she was reading from an
article written by her panelist, Molly john Fast. But the
point that you made during the previous break is to.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears is running against her, and
I'm pretty sure she's a.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Lady lately by the way.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Pretty sure ninety nine percent anctar there. But it really
does show you the poison of identity politics. And you listen, recently,
Barry White took over CBS News. Now, in any sane world,
according to the left, a lesbian woman who is you know,
probably the first person of her kind to take over
an August institution.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like the CBS News.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
She wasn't celebrated, she was attacked of anything correct, But
there was never that story first so and so makes
history as X.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It just it's it just shows.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
You how how transparently wrong it is, how toxic it is,
and how full of blanket is stay.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
In that identity politics silo, because for all their pomp
and circumstance, celebrating, complaining everything else. In the middle of
all this, Deborah wistom Earl sears, if elected, would be
the first black female governor in the history of the country.
Where's the Democrats on that one?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And on top of it, by the way, she was
a marine. I mean, can we talk about competent. This
woman is amazing, and they the blind the blinders they
put on when it is not a Democrat, nothing implies
to anybody that doesn't share their viewpoint. It is absolutely
i'd say stunning, but it's really not.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
James Carvill, Mika Brazinski and our third nominee. This one
got Debora so fired up.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
She went on, X, here's Jen Saki offering to help
and save Usha Vance from her husband, the vice president.
Speaker 11 (25:23):
The little Mentoran candidate Jade Vance wants to be president
more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I always wonder what's going on in the mind.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Of his wife, like you're okay, please bring blank four times,
we'll come over here, We'll save you, and that he's
willing to do anything to get there, and that your
whole iteration you're just outlined. I mean, he's scarier in
certain ways, he's smart in some ways, and he's young
and ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that
(25:54):
he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he
thinks the audience wants to hear from him.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They were using their metric do you need to be
saved from Johnny?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It is so shocking to me.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I mean, the feminist movement is so corrupt, in the bankrupt,
morallyan otherwise, to look at a strong woman like Usha Vance,
who by the way, graduated from the vaulted Universities of Yale,
has her jurisprudence degree, she clerked for several federal judges
who are now Supreme Court justices. This amazing strong woman,
(26:29):
and because she seems to be happily married to an
an equally strong man, oh, she needs rescuing.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It is so shocking to.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Me because really the goal for the feminist movement, quoting it,
was that a woman could be everything, have it all. No,
you can't have it all if you're actually happily married
to a man who is also strong, who, by the way,
strong women actually appreciate that. It's I don't know, it
just drives me crazy, and it just shows if you
actually do believe that marriage is important and you respect
(27:03):
your husband oh gosh, you need rescuing. No blinking coming
from me, and I doubt there is any blinking coming
from Usha Vant's either.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They should just be ashamed of there's a ross to me, Christian.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It's so insulting, like for other reasons you just said,
And it's not the first time. And they treated Malania
Trump this way wan and off. Oh yeah, I think
they alternately attack her as a monster and then say, oh,
that poor girl, she must want to get out, and
never giving given these women the agency to say they
can do what they want and they've made their own choices.
And by the way, talking about blinking multiple times, how
about Hillary Clinton having to go in national TV and
(27:35):
defend her husband while he's out there doing whatever he
did with Monica Lewinsky. That's embarrassing. Yeah, that's something you
should be thinking about. But of course she was strong
and powerful and brave.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Because she was a Democrat. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
James Carville, Meeka Brazenski, Jensaki your choices for a Friday
Fool of the Week. You can vote five, seven, seven,
three nine. I got a bonus nominee to go to
break with because he's in two of the three films
we hope to cover and we come back or Hollywood.
It's all time acclaimed actors. But really he's fallen upon
hard times. Do entirely to himself. Here's this take from
Robert de Niro.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
We see it, we see it, we see it every
we see it all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
He will not want to leave.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
He set it up with his.
Speaker 12 (28:16):
I guess he's the gebbles of the cabinets, Stephen Miller.
He's he's a Nazi, Yes he is, and he's Jewish
and he should be ashamed.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Of himself, the Jewish Nazi Stephen Miller on the Trump
administration staff. Robert de Niro will think of better times
for him. We come back on the right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 13 (28:46):
Four wheel seventy across three fifteen thousand dollars jackpots.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Do you have any idea what the odds are? Shoot,
it's got to be in the millions, maybe more.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Jackpots in twenty minutes. Why did you pull the machines?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Why don't you call them?
Speaker 9 (28:57):
What happened so quick? Three guys won't have a chance
to call you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
See the scam? You didn't see what was going on?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Well, there's no way to determine that that's that is
an infallible way.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They won.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
What's a casino? People got to win sometimes?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hey, what if you're pissing me off?
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Now you're in something my intelligence?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What are you thinking about?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
You're an idiot, you know.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
Damn well, somebody to get into those machines and set
those and reels probably, and one four wheel machine is
a million and a half to one on three machines in
a row's in a billions.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It cannot happen.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
What not happened?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And momo, what's the matter with you?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
And you see you being set up on a second win?
Speaker 13 (29:27):
I really wait, you didn't see that you were being
set up on a second win?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I really think you're.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
Overreacting to and you'll had it with you up and
Cary and your rass in this place ever since I
got it. Get your ass and get your things and
get out of here.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
You're firing me. I'm firing you.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know I'm not firing. I'm firing you.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
You might regretless, mister Ross saying.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I'll regret it even more if I keep you on.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
There's enough way to treat people.
Speaker 13 (29:47):
Listen, if you didn't know, you'd be a scam and
too dumb to keep this job. If you didn't know
you were in on either way you are route, get.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Out, Go on, let's go. What a great scene Robert
de Niro's eight ross scene and casino and the follow
up for Martin Scorsese from Goodfellas in that mafia kind
of genre and could he do a noncore And I
don't think it's the equal of Goodfellas, but it's outstanding
film in its own right. And the juxtaposition Christian of
(30:12):
John Bloom is that country bunk and Don Ward I overreacting.
It makes the scene right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It's a great clash of styles and temperaments. And that's
what DeNiro does best. I mean that that's him at
his finest. And he's been a great actor for so
many years. And uh, you know, he's done some sillier
stuff in recent years. I think you get older, you
can't you don't get the A list scripts anymore. Though
he's still kind of will uncork a good performance Killers
of the Flower Moon recently. It's as good as it gets, man,
(30:40):
I mean, and you know that one. It does live
under the shadow of Goodfellas, but also gave.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Sharon Stone a great performance. I think she was also
nominated for that as well. Did she win No, I
don't think she was definitely nominated.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, she should have won that, but you know, she
was considered just a beauty and that really showed her
what she can do. So you know, when you when
you get the right director and you got you know,
actors are so malleable. They can bring it when they
when all when all the stars aligned. Great actor, great script,
cut direction.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So Deborah de Niro in this film, that scene in particular,
why I picked at the gambling elements kind of the
theme of the day and the way the FBI bust
of the NBA and Chauncey Phillips. But it's a turning
point in that movie as well.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I think it's a great scene.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
But when I do think about the theme of the day,
because we start with the NBA NBA sports betting. If
you want to know one reason why you shouldn't ever
gamble there, it is I mean, because you got the
expert saying nobody's supposed to win. You know, it's a
million to one, And I think we all need to
realize that it is an addiction that's created because everything's
there that one in one million shot, right, But I
(31:38):
just listened to it. I'm like, Wow, everyone who is
a gambling addiction should listen to that clip.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's against me. I shouldn't do it now.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
There wasn't a lot of gambling in Goodfellas, but I
couldn't leave it out this scene. The characters involved are gambling.
They're playing a game of poker. I believe there's sports
betting within it the whole context of the mafia. And
for my money, this is the greatest film of all time,
Good Fellas and Spider. This is his short kind of
cameo in the movie, played by Michael Imperioli, who would
(32:08):
go on to portray Christopher molto Sante in The Sopranos, Tell.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
It you would you look for sympathy?
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's sweetie? Won't you go for yourself to.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Right what I just right.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
For you?
Speaker 9 (32:25):
A boy respect, But he's got a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Of bulls cook for you.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Don't take nobody just shoots some.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Of the.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Id get away with fun, get away with them.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Sat what's the world coming to.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
The world is coming to it?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
How's that all right? What's the matter.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
The matter with you?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
What are you?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Stupid?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
One?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Tom how kidding would you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What the are you doing?
Speaker 9 (32:58):
What the sick maniac growing up? If you kid?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
What do you mean you kidding?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
You break the uphet it with you?
Speaker 9 (33:04):
You can shoot the guy did.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Shot?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
You miss it?
Speaker 9 (33:13):
You got a problem with what I did? Anthony right anyway.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
No floe, Rats would have proved to be.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
A rats stupid best that.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I can't believe you are you.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Gonna take the thing up?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You're gonna take the whole You're gonna do it.
Speaker 13 (33:25):
I got no lime you're gonna take the I don't
give up.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
But the first of all, I does.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Show now Deborah Joe Patty shines in this movie. Is Tommy.
A couple of things why I think this is the
greatest film ever made. The music is a character even
in this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Scene, noting that it's great to hear it, see it, and.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It makes you focus on it more when you can't
see the scene. That's one of the reasons I love
playing these for people. As you listen, like you notice
things that you wouldn't normally hear. The other part about
this film and that character Tommy is somehow at the
end when he spoiler alert gets act, we feel so
kind of sympathy for this guy, like, oh man, this
is too bad.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Well, you know, it's interesting because when you look at
gangster movies, obviously there's a violence to and all that,
but when you get into the world, and this is
what The Godfather did. They did not make a gangster movie.
They made a movie about a family and their business,
so they take you into It's one of the reasons
byb a hard time with gangster movies because they actually
make you.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Care about some of these characters.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
But what's so shocking about this moment is it shows
how violence is just a part of every single aspect
of there that normal barrier that normal people have against
just automatically committing violence.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's not there. It's their job, it's their day jobs.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's going to pop out when somebody laughs at them
in the wrong way. I think. In that way, it's
shocking and it's it's a quintessential moment. And boy, your
finger must be tired from that bleep button.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, that one really warming out. Yes, But Tommy, the
character portrayed by Jodan Pashi, total psychopath, but again a
fascinating character. We see Michael Imperiolias is so much texture
to this film. Christian that scene, how it stands out,
how it fits into the whole film itself. By the way, I.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Don't have lime in my car or my house, So
if I tomorrow, I gotta go find it.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I gotta go to home Depa.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
What I find switching about the Gangster movies is that
one of the reasons why we're attracted them is they
have a code. There is an honor there, there is
a connection, There is a loyalty, there's a commitment, and
in a weird way, it is unbreakable at times. And
I think that de Niro was saying that Petci broke,
broke the code, did the wrong thing now because he
kills someone because you just don't do that, it's not
(35:38):
going to work out for them.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That fascinates me.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And I think the loyalty they will do anything for
our brother kind of a that that really resonates with us,
and that that's why you care about him sometimes because
even though he's a monster, there's a little kernel of
yourself that enjoys, recognizes, respects that bond and the.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Consequences are shown too. Debrah with the whole bill the
bat scene and you know that hair trigger temper of Tommy's.
It really costs them.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It does.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
And I think the difference why I like the trilogy
of The Godfather is because the first Godfather he dies
in a happy way because he's stuck to a code.
Why does at the end Michael die alone by himself
in a courtyard, which is the best morality moment of
a tale. Is because he broke the code. He went
too far, he killed his brother, he did all that.
So so when a character breaks the code, then they
(36:27):
come to that ending.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
This is perhaps one of the greatest scenes of all time.
I mean this, this film's full of them. And if
Goodfellows is my one, A, the Godfather, the trilogy, and
in particular the first two are my one, B's and
c or whatever you want to do. But this is
the casino tie in. In fact, this is at the
bridge between the first Godfather and the second, when Michael
becomes the Boss and he is operating under a code
(36:51):
like we talked about, but he's running business a little
bit different than his father. Vito Corleone, did I love Fellas?
Everybody too? Freddy?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So I'm see your Mike.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
How am I to get everything you want?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
The chef cook for you special.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
The dances will kick your tongue out, and your credit
is good step to.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Everybody in the room. So I think I'm play in
the house.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I credit good enough to buy you out a casino.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
The hotel Collon family wants to buy you out.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
The Coloni wants to buy me out.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I'd buy you out.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You don't buy me out.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Your casino loses money. Maybe we can do better.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
You think I'm skimming off the top of Mike.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You're unlucky.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
You cool damn guineas really make me laugh.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I do you a favorite.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Take Freddie and when you're having a bad time, and
then you try to push me out.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
You took Freddy in because the Corlli owned family bank
rolled your casino, because a Moni family on the coast
guarantee his safety.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Now we're talking business. Let's talk business.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, let's talk business.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
Mike.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
First of all, you're all done.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The Coyone family don't even have that kind of muscle anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
The Godfather is sick, right, You're getting chased out of
New York by buys he.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
And the other families. Who do you think is going
on here? You think he can come to my hotel
and take over. I talked to Buzzy. I can make
the deal with him and still keep my hotel.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Is that why you slapped my brother around in public?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh no, that was nothing, Mike.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
Now now now, molded mean nothing by that. Sure he
FLEs off the hand him once in a while, but
money were good friends right now, huh.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I got a business to run.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I got a kick asses sometimes to make a run.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
We had a little agmid fordy night, so I had
to straighten them out.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
You streaking my brother around?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
He was boring cocktail wages as two at a time pays.
Come and get a drink at the table. What's wrong
with you? I leave in New York tomorrow. Think about
a price. Do you know who I am? I'm more Green.
I made my bones when.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
You were going out with cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Wait a minute more, Oh, I get an idea, Tim
the other consider ery and you can.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Talk to the Din.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You can expust him into the don as semi retired
and Mike is in charge of the family business. Now,
have anything to say, save it to Michael.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Mike, you don't come to Las Vegas and talk to
a man like Mo Green like that.
Speaker 12 (39:33):
You're my older brother, and I love you, but don't
ever take sides with anyone against the family again.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
He al Pacino masterful performance there. Alex Rocco as Moe
Green later known as the Moe Green Special that movie
He's signed his death certificate when he said, I met
with BARZENI oh bye bye.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What can you say, Deborah? It's just great.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I was telling you Christian about this too. If you've
not seen the limited series The Offer about the making
of The Godfather, great, it's amazing. Robert Evans is portrayed
in that and by Matthew Good phenomenal. Miles Tayler plays
the director, and it is just beautifully done. It's you know,
(40:26):
you don't We don't need to make a lot of
movies about making movies, but that was a great one.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It's a classic scene.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It's a classic morality tale and that is a great moment.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Christian.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
My favorite part of the Sopranos, and there's so many
great parts of the Sopranos is they used to refer
to Godfather Part one and Godfather Part two was one
and two.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Truth within the Mafia community. And if you watch the Offer,
the Mafia was consulted on this and they wanted it
to be, as Debora pointed out earlier, a family film,
and the fact that it was that and it was
just a thing them up, shoot them up, you know
kind of thing. They appreciated that because it gave context
to whatever it is that they're doing. Because you know,
(41:09):
there's no such thing as the mafia. That's right.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
One time.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
By the way, the word is ever mentioned in the
entire movie. That was one of the prerequisites. Yes, the
Mafia would not allow the word mafia to be in
The Godfather, it's not used. It's the family, all that family.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, it's We started with Casablanca, we ending with The Godfather.
Those are two iconic movies that have entered the pop
cultural landscape that are given us so many phrases, so
many moments, so many everything. It's just you can't even
separate the two.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
It's just's just part of what we are.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
So I took this Chauncey billups Cloud and with the
help of you two, and we gave everybody a silver
line and everyone out there, you're welcome so real quick,
because I know we've gone along. I did that on purpose,
because you know we're gonna make the rules around here
a little bit just like the family. Would you know
what I mean? But your votes for Friday Full of
the Week very quickly. Just the names James Carville.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Carville and James Carville sweep.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, you can still vote though the listeners get a vote.
James Carvill, Mika Brazinski, Jensaki, and I threw in Robert
de Niro if you want to tribute there as he
called Stephen Miller a Nazi hotybee overdue for a time
out thanks to Deborah Flora, thanks to Christian Toto on
the right side of Hollywood. Jimmy Sangenberger joins me next
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