September 11, 2024 • 29 mins
Reviewing texts from listeners with their takes on the Tuesday debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump. Ryan feels it wasn't the big win many pundits believed it was for Harris, and not as damaging for Trump as some thought.
Dave Proffit, American Heroes in Action founder joins to help commemorate 23 years since the attacks of September 11th, and the event his organization is holding for America's veterans and first responders.
Dave Proffit, American Heroes in Action founder joins to help commemorate 23 years since the attacks of September 11th, and the event his organization is holding for America's veterans and first responders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In Minnesota. She went out, I'm talking now, you know mind?
Please does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
She went out.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis. She went out
and raised money to get them out of jail. She
did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she
wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are
in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would
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do this. She wants to confiscate your guns, and she
will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the election,
Fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Fact, Chuck True all of it, and Donald Trump doing
a good job of disarming Kamala Harris of the I'm
speaking line by turning it right back around on her,
and you could tell she knew she got got in
that moment her facial expressions. I greethed Heidig and all
joined us in our number one. I think there were tells,
there were giveaways. There were a couple points where she
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put her hand up to her chin, like she was
posing like Uncle Rico for a photo in Napoleon Dynamite.
A very strange and bizarre kind of gesture, and I
think that was a giveaway that she knew she had
gotten got. So to speak, Ryan schulingback with you six
thirty K how your text? Five, seven, seven, three, nine,
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plenty of those. We'll get to those in just a
moment to do Donald Trump's latter point in what you heard,
this is the thing he had to do. All the
fact checking of her in that debate, none of it
came from Lindsay Davis or David Muir. The moderators that
I believe were infinitely worse than any I've ever seen,
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including Candy Crowley in twenty twelve where she basically derailed
Mitt Romney's campaign with a fact check that was in
fact false against Barack Obama and Chris Wallace last time
around in twenty twenty, who did much of the same.
They did the heavy lifting Davis and Muir throughout this
entire debate. It is the most lopsided, one sided, biased
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job of moderating I've ever seen. It made Jake Tapper
and Dana Bash look like a clinic in journalism. And
even Trump said in the aftermath of that debate that
he felt those two did a very good job, and
I would agree. I would agree. Last night was a disaster, though,
and it's helped save, revive, and inject oxygen into the
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Kamala Harris's campaign because there are certain comments she made
that are simply refuted by her own remarks that exist
on video and audio from her past that she has said,
this being one of them about guns.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
This business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls and
I are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away.
So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff. I
support buybacks and it's something I'm so passionate about and
I'm so looking forward to being president to address.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
We've got to deal.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
With this ow mandatory. You're a gun buy back program.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's magatory.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Stop with it. Huh.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
ABC did such a poor job, and I believe deliberately
intentionally in this debate because how long did they have
to prepare for this, folks? This goes back to Joe
Biden on that day that he declared, oh no, I'd
beat the last time. I'll do it again. No, not once,
but twice. Don't you say no joke? And they scheduled
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the CNN one, and they scheduled the September tenth one.
Last night, way back when was that had half a
year ago, ABC had all the time in the world.
And I know Kamala was only introduced into this race
in late July, but that's still a month and a half.
You know, guy that I do the work, guys behind
the scenes of accumulating all this audio, all these clips,
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all these receipts, and I fully would encourage that they
do it for both candidates to contradict things they say
that aren't true. It'd be masterfully done if you did
it equally. But what they should have had at the
ready every time one of the candidates said something that
could be refuted by documented audio or video, play that
back for the candidate. But Vice President Harris, what we
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just heard back in twenty nineteen, you said this, play
the clip for boom cut shot to her face and
a reaction. What does she do? She's checkmated. The moderators
had no intention of putting Kamala Harris on the spot
last night. They let her slip. To Dan Kaplis's point,
they did not ask one single follow up question. As
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I played in the montage for you that covered the
questions from both moderators over the first half of the debate,
go to your texts here five seven, seven thirty nine,
Ralph asked Ryan, who fact checks the moderators? Well, Donald
Trump had to a little bit in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He also, if you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Noticed, he had to step in a couple of times
and say, now wait a minute, no excuse me, I've
got to push back on something she just said. Because
the moderators had no interest in doing that. They were
moving on to the next topic. They're like, Okay, we
covered that, buy they didn't do that with Trump. Trump
was redirected on the abortion question not once, but twice
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by Lindsay Davis. Each time he answered, it's a matter
to be decided by the states. I will not sign
a national abortion band. He said that a Kamala Harris
kept lying about it, and nobody said anything, neither of
the moderators to this Texter's point, when you have a
candidate spewing something about their opponent allowing endorsing murdering kids
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after birth, you got to put a stop to it immediately. Well,
you can't cherry pick like that, Texter. That's a moronic text. Sorry,
I got to call it what it is because once
you start, well, that one's too extreme and not this one,
Kamala just told a little white lie and maybe it
was like a gray lie.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, you either do it or you don't. If you're
a moderator, get out of here with that crap.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Five seven seven three nine in the texting there. Now,
this is what I wanted to push back on a
little bet because Donald Trump was right about that point.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Governor Ralph Northam.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done
with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent
of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way,
and it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
There may be a fetus that's non biable. So in
this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I
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can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would
be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant
would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the
family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the
physicians and the mothers.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Texter, that's exactly right. Now. You might focus on this part.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities,
there may be a fetus that's non biable.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The problem with that is none of that language that
he just said appears in the Colorado law on abortion.
There are no restrictions on abortion in Colorado. If you
are in the ninth month and you are dilating and
you're having a bad day and you want somebody to
cut that baby out of you and kill it for
any reason or no reason at all, that procedure is legal.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Period. It just is. Don't blame me, don't shoot the messenger.
It just is. Now you could say, well, it's usually.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Under those circumstances that Governor Northam Mountain lines, but that's
not in the law.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Those words, that language does not appear in the law.
It's not there, and that is intentional. You can't convince
me otherwise. And I'm not some anti abortion, pro life zealot.
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm just calling it like I see it. I could
show you the law and then you could point to
me where those exceptions exist, because they don't. I get
really frustrated by this because they try to dodge by
saying well that that rarely happens. Well, it can happen
because there's nothing preventing it from happening, and there is
a doctor death. Talk to Geheidi Ganol in Boulder, Colorado
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that does these late term abortions.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I talked to Valdimore Archiletta about that last night. It's disgusting,
it's vile, it's demonic. Ryan knows the Norwegian here. There
was some chatter out there that Kamala had bluetooth earrings.
I saw that, you know, I don't want to buy
into that necessarily. I don't think she needed that. I
don't think she needed that. With the moderators that we
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had last night, it just wasn't necessary. Now, they might
not have known how friendly the moderators were going into
last night, and maybe they would have efforted to set
something up, but I think that would have been one
more trouble than it's worth, and two for her more distracting.
You don't understand. You're standing there live and somebody's chirping
in your ear. That's distracting. I wouldn't want it, and
if I thought it would help me, I wouldn't want it.
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Gary says on the Faulkner Focus Fox News, they showed
a tracker that they had people with their devices responding
to the debate. DEM's Republicans and independence. The tracking was
very interesting when Trump was talking about the economy and immigration. Wow,
the independence really tracked with the Republicans big time.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Gary.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's an important point because who quote won the debate
last night? I would say the following Trump didn't win
it as bigly as he should have. But that was
me because the moderate it was very difficult the circumstances
in which he had to execute last night. I went
over I thought some of the flawed delivery. He took
the bait on the whole crowd size thing. F the
crowd size, don't care, doesn't matter, Move back to the issue,
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Stay disciplined, targeted on point. You have all kinds of
low hanging fruit to attack kamal on. She tried to
get him off track. She succeeded, so in that regard
I think performed. She way overperformed what I thought she
would do. May a couple on that one. But the
only thing that matters coming out of this is how
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did the undecideds, the independence, the unaffiliateds, the moderates respond
to what they heard last night? And I think Gary,
to your point and to the tracking on the key
issues that are top of mind, economy, border crime, foreign policy,
Trump swept the day. I didn't hear one single viable, specific, tangible,
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solid Harris policy position really on anything other than one abortion.
She got really passionate and really detailed about abortion.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Show me another one, Tell me another one. Another policy
position that she took that was rock solid, that you
can define. Oh, I know where she stands on X,
and this is what she's going to do. She didn't
do that because she was appealing once again to the
raw emotion of the moment, to questions about care, charter,
viability for office, threat to democracy, all of these kind
of broad strokes, and that really, truly is the only
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hope she has in this campaign, because drilling down on
the individual issues, she loses, and she loses every time.
Ninety nine percent of everything Kamala Harris said last night
was a lie, says this Texter. The only thing really
worth taking note of is that she did last night
was a serious case of stink nose. But it's like
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she stepped in something foul and she couldn't help but
smell it. It was probably your policies, Kelly thoughts.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Okay, so I have a question for you. Sure, what
the hell is an opportunistic economy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's an opportunity economy, Kelly, right, good opportunities.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They're knocking on the door. Okay, opportunity knocks, you have
to answer.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah. I you know, like Heidi said earlier, I also
came away from the whole experience being pissed, and it
had a lot to do with the moderator, and I
just kind of put my at one point, I just
kind of put my I think I actually texted you
at this point, put my hands up in the air.
I was just I was just stunned.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And was how much Sid did so much worse than I.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
To one sided? Yeah, and you know, after the did
she do better than I expected her to do?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Did she have some gaffs? Yes, with her face so facial,
you know, tics and those types of things.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She did laugh a little bit.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
So you owe me dinner?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
What?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I never took that bet.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah we did. No, Yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I summarily reject the premise.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
This person says, I'm not sure if the broadcast version
is similar, but in the last few weeks, your interviews
have been cut off with no notice and goes straight
to commercials. That is my fault. I have to apologize
to you for that. There are times when yes, I delay,
I'm running my own board, so it's kind of crazy.
As Kelly will attest to, I have to delay because
there's just one more thing I'm doing the Colombo right
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the peter fulk with, whether it be Heidi Ganaw or
Danielle Jorinski in the previous hour, And I apologize sincerely
for that. I know that over the air when you're listening,
especially on the app, I believe it is that it
will go to.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Break and it will cut me off.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But if there's anything that you missed, rest assured you
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a lot fewer commercials, so there's a little bit of
an advantage to that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Kyle Clark is a this person.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's Okayle Clark is a homoseecon.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
He's not gay, he's married, he's got kids. I mean,
come on, Kyle Clark is just a chirk.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
There you go, let's just insert jerk for that word,
because I don't think we need to spread fake news gay.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He's tested ass.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, the second part of this is true, and it
hates conservative women. Fact check true. Yes, I mean, look
how he treads Danielle A test to that, Danielle Jerinski,
Heidi Ganall, Lauren Bobert. That's just three off the top
of my head, and I've talked to each one of them.
It's a it's a bizarre obsession. And if you watched him,
he was like a puppy dog in the primary debate
that he moderated and he got national acclaimed for and
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Jimmy Kimmy kim Alive because he kept going in on
Lauren Bobert. Bobert finds him a little creepy. I don't
think I'm speaking out of school there. It's just true.
It's weird. And as you guys know, Lauren comes on
this program all the time because I'm not a creepy,
weird o jerk.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's just that simple.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, just further to that point, I have a
wonderful relationship with her opponent, Tricia Calvarese.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And you know I.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Because I don't I don't view it as being my
job to come in there and do the heavy lifting
for either one of those candidates. If Tricia is gracious
enough to come on this program and give me her time,
I'm going to treat her with respect, period. And she
feels that. And if you don't believe me, go ahead
and ask her. Kyle Clark can't say the same thing
for my good comrade over on nine News, A.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Time out would come back.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We'll talk more about this day September eleventh, twenty three
years ago today, Dave Prophet joins us next.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
America today is on bend and me in prayer for
the people who live or lost here, for the workers
who work here, for the families who wore this nation
stands with the good people of New York City and
New Jersey and Connecticut. Go as we more in the
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lass from thousands of our citizens over. I can hear you,
I can hear you.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
The rest of the wall hears you, and the people.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
And the people who knocked these feelings down.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
We'll hear all of us soon.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I just remember the raw emotion of that day. That
was a couple of days after the attacks of September
eleventh and George W. Bush with the megaphone on top
of a portion of the rubble, speaking to the gathered
firefighters and first responders, rescuers that were there to search
for potential survivors for those who had been killed, and
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just tremendous in the aftermath. I thought, the heroic actions
of George W. Bush and how he helped keep this
country together beside any of the criticism you may have
of him, separate from that, but in response to that day,
you know, his soothing words I thought were much needed
at a time when we were very wounded as a
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country and we're very uncertain of where this would all lead.
And joining us now to help commemorate twenty three years
since the attacks of nine to eleven. Dave Prophet. He
is the founder of American Heroes in Action. It's a
tremendous group. You can find out more online and American
Heroes Inaction dot org. And what an appropriate day to
talk to him, Dave, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Thank you. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
When you think about this day, September eleventh, and the
impact that it had on your life personally, and maybe
how it changed the trajectory of your life and your perspective.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How would you put that into words?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Wow, that's that's a challenge. It's as you know, and
we've talked about before. I never served, so it's all
just a civilian and like so many civilians we watch,
but you and I know a lot of veterans and
first responders, and it's tough for me. It's nothing like
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what it's for me, what it's like for those men
and women who have worn the uniform of this country.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And it's part of why you helped found American Heroes
in Action, Dave. And I know you speak as a civilian,
but this group does so much to honor those who served,
and it's such a unique perspective that you provide compared
to a lot of great organizations that are out there
like Wounded Warrior Project and Disabled American Veterans, etc. There's
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an event that you brought to my attention that's happening
today called a Round of Golf. To never forget, it's
happening in a lot of states, including right here in Colorado.
Take us through that event, who's participating in it, and
why it was important to hold that event well.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
As you can imagine, today is a tough day for
a lot of our veterans and first responders, and we
at American Heroes in Action wanted to have an opportunity
for these men and women to get out of the house,
to get away from work, to spend time with other
men and women with shared similar experiences, and spend a
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little time outdoors. The organization American Heroes in Action believes
that there is a true therapy and healing to spend
spending time outdoors. So we have a lot of our
volunteers and veterans around the country and we were able
today to put together five different golf outings in four
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different states. We have golfers in Florida, Arizona, Mississippi, and Colorado.
If everybody shows up, we'll have thirty two golfers out
today saying a round of golf to never forget. So
it's going to be hopefully a good dose of outdoor therapy.
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And for a lot of these guys, hitting the golf
ball is a lot of fun, but the camaraderie of
spending time with other men and women with shared similar
experiences is way more valuable and way more healing.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And that's such a foundational part of what this organization
stands for Dave profit my friend and a great organizer
as he mentioned, of these types of events for American
Heroes in Action and if you'd like to participate, if
you are a veteran yourself, or you know one who
might benefit from this organization, or you simply would like
to donate or participate. The website once again is American
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Heroes Inaction dot org. And i'd like you, once again, Dave,
to get in a little bit more detail as to
why these outings are such an important part of the
healing process. A lot of our veterans who have served
that suffer from PTSD this chance to go out and
do something like a camping trip or a phishing trip,
or today, like you mentioned, a golf outing. What that
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does and how that helps really with the spirit and
the emotional side of our veterans that have come back home.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Well, many of us feel that this is true, the
spending time out doors is healing. But the University of
Utah back in twenty ten, they took in conjunction working
with the Veterans Administration, they took thirteen men and women
with PTSD on a multi day rafting trip and they
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had these men and women keep a diary a little
log while they were on this trip, and when they
came back, they agreed and they saw the results that
there is a true sense of healing and a sense
of therapy and spending out time out doors. They actually
coined the term eco therapy, So it is true that
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spending time out doors provides some eco therapy. And we've
all heard the terrible numbers of twenty two suicides a day.
We have had many veterans who have told us that
if it wasn't for the ability to spend time outdoors,
they might be someone who put a gun in their mouth.
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So what we're doing is providing a little therapy. The
camaraderie is a big help too, but we are also
saving lives by providing therapeutic outdoor adventures or eco therapy
for these men and women.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Dave, I think back to twenty three years ago on
this very day, and not only how the world changed,
but how everything changed. Really there was a pre nine
to eleven world in a post nine to eleven world,
and a lot of these men and women who have
served were called into that service because of the events
of September eleventh. All of them were gen xers, like myself,
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they ascribed to a higher sense of purpose. They went
to Afghanistan, many went to a rock. We lost a
lot of lives, There were a lot of those that
were injured. There were traumatic experiences over there. We've seen
some films made about that. As you talk to these
veterans about those experiences, is this something that they're even
comfortable discussing? Is it something that they tend to hold
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deep inside? And maybe is that why an event like
this today, with the golf outings, the fishing trips, the
camping trips, etc. That maybe it just takes them to
a better place and their minds and their hearts and
their souls.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
It does take them to a better place. And one
of the things that we've learned is very interesting to me.
We include Vietnam veterans on our outdoor adventures, and my
observation is that the veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan,
they have a much easier time talking about their experience
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as positive and or negative. And the Vietnam veterans, as
you can imagine, they don't want to talk about anything,
but it is when they get out on these adventures,
they they may sit in a duck blind with someone who's,
you know, forty years younger than they are, but they
both have shared similar experiences. And the Vietnam veteran will
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open up to, you know, a guy who's forty years
younger than he is, and he and somebody who didn't
meet until that morning of the night before, whereas they
haven't told anybody in their family or anybody that they
work with, any of these stories. It is. It's also
therapeutic to get that stuff off your chest. So this
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is kind of therapy. Another thing that we have learned
is and it doesn't matter what the age is. When
a lot of these veterans come back and they can
sit on the couch and they have a lot less
structure in their life, they lose their sense of purpose.
And it doesn't matter, you know, if they're a Vietnam
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veteran or an Iraq in an Afghanistan veteran. And when
we bring these men in and together, even if it's
just a little bit of time together, they feel like
it gives them a sense of purpose. So very very
healing and very therapeutic.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Such a fantastic organization and we can never forget as well.
Though it was an unpopular war, for many valid reasons,
our Vietnam veterans, our heroes as well, and this is
all part of this group American Heroes in Action. Tremendous
event going on today to commemorate September eleventh, called a
round of Golf to Never Forget. Like he said, It's
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taking place in Florida, Mississippi, Arizona, Colorado today and this
is just one of many events that you can find
out more about if you go to their website, check
them out. And cannot encourage you strongly enough to find
out more about them. American Heroes Inaction dot org. The
founder of the President, Dave Prophet, joining us on this
very solemn day. Dave, thank you so much for your
time and for all you do with American Heroes in Action.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Thank you, Ryan, Dave Prophet our.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Guest thoughts five seven, seven thirty nine, appreciate those Send
those texts. Ryan closing out the show on this September eleventh,
We come back after this, Ryan shiling live on six
point thirty KL. That from Alan Jackson, one of the
many songs that followed the aftermaths of the attacks of
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nine to eleven twenty three years ago. Today, am I
thanks to Dave Prophet for joining us in the previous segment.
He is the founder of American Heroes in Action, tremendous organization.
As he mentioned Vietnam War veterans, veterans of those who
served in Iraq and Afghanistan. We cannot thank them enough,
we cannot provide enough for them. And this is why
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when Senator jd Vance, who hopefully will be our vice
president and is a Marine Corps veteran himself, speaks so
passionately about how we treat our veterans and the fact
that somebody that is here illegally, that broke our laws
to get into this country would go to the front
of the line ahead of a veteran that needs our
help perish. The thought absolutely abominable to me. And so
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please check out American Heroesinaction dot org if you haven't already.
Just a great organization and they could really use your support.
This from Mike and Henderson, all of the cats in
Ohio are taking to the streets chanting stop immigration. Meow, yeah,
I gotta go super Troopers on that one. Do I
look like I can't A whisker saucerful milk, Thanks Mike,
(27:34):
he says, I just wanted to lighten things up. I
love using the Trump cat memes for humorous comic relief
purposes here on this show with all of you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's for us to chuckle about. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I did not like that Trump went there in the
debate last night, although there's conflicting stories that it may
actually be happening. But is this going back to my
conversation earlier and if you missed it, check it out
on the podcast Daniel Jorinsk when you leap to an extreme,
you give daylight to somebody like David Muir, Lindsay Davis,
comrade Kyle Clark to then go to that extreme and
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not talk about the real issue at hand. That there
are Venezuelan gangs in Aurora. That is a fact. Now,
whether they've taken over the city, no, have they commandeered
some apartment complexes?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is that a problem? Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Are Haitian illegals eating cats? Debatable? Are they there in
causing problems like lots of car accidents and ripping the
heads off of ducks?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well? Yeah, so this is the art of the debate.
Is this is what Trump is very poor at.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I have to say is do not go to that extreme,
stay focused, stay in that kind of middle zone where
you have definable, tangible, verifiable proof, and a solid foundation
from which to launch your debate tactics and attacks. You
create an opening by going to an extreme that's debatable.
That is what your opponent's going to focus on, and
(29:07):
that is where I think Trump failed to seal the
deal last night.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
In the debate.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Harris did herself well, but as you'll hear coming up
on the Dan Kaflis Show, I don't think it was
as rosy as a lot of people are painting for her,
and I don't think the debate went is poorly for
Donald Trump. Upon reflection, as I went through and edited
that first thirty to forty five minutes of audio, I
don't think of one as badly for Donald Trump as
maybe we originally thought as well,
In Minnesota. She went out, I'm talking now, you know mind?
Please does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
She went out.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis. She went out
and raised money to get them out of jail. She
did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she
wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are
in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would
(00:32):
do this. She wants to confiscate your guns, and she
will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the election,
Fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Fact, Chuck True all of it, and Donald Trump doing
a good job of disarming Kamala Harris of the I'm
speaking line by turning it right back around on her,
and you could tell she knew she got got in
that moment her facial expressions. I greethed Heidig and all
joined us in our number one. I think there were tells,
there were giveaways. There were a couple points where she
(01:03):
put her hand up to her chin, like she was
posing like Uncle Rico for a photo in Napoleon Dynamite.
A very strange and bizarre kind of gesture, and I
think that was a giveaway that she knew she had
gotten got. So to speak, Ryan schulingback with you six
thirty K how your text? Five, seven, seven, three, nine,
(01:23):
plenty of those. We'll get to those in just a
moment to do Donald Trump's latter point in what you heard,
this is the thing he had to do. All the
fact checking of her in that debate, none of it
came from Lindsay Davis or David Muir. The moderators that
I believe were infinitely worse than any I've ever seen,
(01:44):
including Candy Crowley in twenty twelve where she basically derailed
Mitt Romney's campaign with a fact check that was in
fact false against Barack Obama and Chris Wallace last time
around in twenty twenty, who did much of the same.
They did the heavy lifting Davis and Muir throughout this
entire debate. It is the most lopsided, one sided, biased
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job of moderating I've ever seen. It made Jake Tapper
and Dana Bash look like a clinic in journalism. And
even Trump said in the aftermath of that debate that
he felt those two did a very good job, and
I would agree. I would agree. Last night was a disaster, though,
and it's helped save, revive, and inject oxygen into the
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Kamala Harris's campaign because there are certain comments she made
that are simply refuted by her own remarks that exist
on video and audio from her past that she has said,
this being one of them about guns.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
This business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls and
I are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away.
So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff. I
support buybacks and it's something I'm so passionate about and
I'm so looking forward to being president to address.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
We've got to deal.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
With this ow mandatory. You're a gun buy back program.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's magatory.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Stop with it. Huh.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
ABC did such a poor job, and I believe deliberately
intentionally in this debate because how long did they have
to prepare for this, folks? This goes back to Joe
Biden on that day that he declared, oh no, I'd
beat the last time. I'll do it again. No, not once,
but twice. Don't you say no joke? And they scheduled
(03:24):
the CNN one, and they scheduled the September tenth one.
Last night, way back when was that had half a
year ago, ABC had all the time in the world.
And I know Kamala was only introduced into this race
in late July, but that's still a month and a half.
You know, guy that I do the work, guys behind
the scenes of accumulating all this audio, all these clips,
(03:47):
all these receipts, and I fully would encourage that they
do it for both candidates to contradict things they say
that aren't true. It'd be masterfully done if you did
it equally. But what they should have had at the
ready every time one of the candidates said something that
could be refuted by documented audio or video, play that
back for the candidate. But Vice President Harris, what we
(04:09):
just heard back in twenty nineteen, you said this, play
the clip for boom cut shot to her face and
a reaction. What does she do? She's checkmated. The moderators
had no intention of putting Kamala Harris on the spot
last night. They let her slip. To Dan Kaplis's point,
they did not ask one single follow up question. As
(04:32):
I played in the montage for you that covered the
questions from both moderators over the first half of the debate,
go to your texts here five seven, seven thirty nine,
Ralph asked Ryan, who fact checks the moderators? Well, Donald
Trump had to a little bit in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He also, if you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Noticed, he had to step in a couple of times
and say, now wait a minute, no excuse me, I've
got to push back on something she just said. Because
the moderators had no interest in doing that. They were
moving on to the next topic. They're like, Okay, we
covered that, buy they didn't do that with Trump. Trump
was redirected on the abortion question not once, but twice
(05:11):
by Lindsay Davis. Each time he answered, it's a matter
to be decided by the states. I will not sign
a national abortion band. He said that a Kamala Harris
kept lying about it, and nobody said anything, neither of
the moderators to this Texter's point, when you have a
candidate spewing something about their opponent allowing endorsing murdering kids
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after birth, you got to put a stop to it immediately. Well,
you can't cherry pick like that, Texter. That's a moronic text. Sorry,
I got to call it what it is because once
you start, well, that one's too extreme and not this one,
Kamala just told a little white lie and maybe it
was like a gray lie.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, you either do it or you don't. If you're
a moderator, get out of here with that crap.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Five seven seven three nine in the texting there. Now,
this is what I wanted to push back on a
little bet because Donald Trump was right about that point.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Governor Ralph Northam.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done
with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent
of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way,
and it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
There may be a fetus that's non biable. So in
this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I
(06:29):
can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would
be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant
would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the
family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the
physicians and the mothers.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Texter, that's exactly right. Now. You might focus on this part.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities,
there may be a fetus that's non biable.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The problem with that is none of that language that
he just said appears in the Colorado law on abortion.
There are no restrictions on abortion in Colorado. If you
are in the ninth month and you are dilating and
you're having a bad day and you want somebody to
cut that baby out of you and kill it for
any reason or no reason at all, that procedure is legal.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Period. It just is. Don't blame me, don't shoot the messenger.
It just is. Now you could say, well, it's usually.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Under those circumstances that Governor Northam Mountain lines, but that's
not in the law.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Those words, that language does not appear in the law.
It's not there, and that is intentional. You can't convince
me otherwise. And I'm not some anti abortion, pro life zealot.
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm just calling it like I see it. I could
show you the law and then you could point to
me where those exceptions exist, because they don't. I get
really frustrated by this because they try to dodge by
saying well that that rarely happens. Well, it can happen
because there's nothing preventing it from happening, and there is
a doctor death. Talk to Geheidi Ganol in Boulder, Colorado
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that does these late term abortions.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I talked to Valdimore Archiletta about that last night. It's disgusting,
it's vile, it's demonic. Ryan knows the Norwegian here. There
was some chatter out there that Kamala had bluetooth earrings.
I saw that, you know, I don't want to buy
into that necessarily. I don't think she needed that. I
don't think she needed that. With the moderators that we
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had last night, it just wasn't necessary. Now, they might
not have known how friendly the moderators were going into
last night, and maybe they would have efforted to set
something up, but I think that would have been one
more trouble than it's worth, and two for her more distracting.
You don't understand. You're standing there live and somebody's chirping
in your ear. That's distracting. I wouldn't want it, and
if I thought it would help me, I wouldn't want it.
(09:03):
Gary says on the Faulkner Focus Fox News, they showed
a tracker that they had people with their devices responding
to the debate. DEM's Republicans and independence. The tracking was
very interesting when Trump was talking about the economy and immigration. Wow,
the independence really tracked with the Republicans big time.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Gary.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's an important point because who quote won the debate
last night? I would say the following Trump didn't win
it as bigly as he should have. But that was
me because the moderate it was very difficult the circumstances
in which he had to execute last night. I went
over I thought some of the flawed delivery. He took
the bait on the whole crowd size thing. F the
crowd size, don't care, doesn't matter, Move back to the issue,
(09:47):
Stay disciplined, targeted on point. You have all kinds of
low hanging fruit to attack kamal on. She tried to
get him off track. She succeeded, so in that regard
I think performed. She way overperformed what I thought she
would do. May a couple on that one. But the
only thing that matters coming out of this is how
(10:09):
did the undecideds, the independence, the unaffiliateds, the moderates respond
to what they heard last night? And I think Gary,
to your point and to the tracking on the key
issues that are top of mind, economy, border crime, foreign policy,
Trump swept the day. I didn't hear one single viable, specific, tangible,
(10:32):
solid Harris policy position really on anything other than one abortion.
She got really passionate and really detailed about abortion.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Show me another one, Tell me another one. Another policy
position that she took that was rock solid, that you
can define. Oh, I know where she stands on X,
and this is what she's going to do. She didn't
do that because she was appealing once again to the
raw emotion of the moment, to questions about care, charter,
viability for office, threat to democracy, all of these kind
of broad strokes, and that really, truly is the only
(11:07):
hope she has in this campaign, because drilling down on
the individual issues, she loses, and she loses every time.
Ninety nine percent of everything Kamala Harris said last night
was a lie, says this Texter. The only thing really
worth taking note of is that she did last night
was a serious case of stink nose. But it's like
(11:27):
she stepped in something foul and she couldn't help but
smell it. It was probably your policies, Kelly thoughts.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Okay, so I have a question for you. Sure, what
the hell is an opportunistic economy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's an opportunity economy, Kelly, right, good opportunities.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They're knocking on the door. Okay, opportunity knocks, you have
to answer.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah. I you know, like Heidi said earlier, I also
came away from the whole experience being pissed, and it
had a lot to do with the moderator, and I
just kind of put my at one point, I just
kind of put my I think I actually texted you
at this point, put my hands up in the air.
I was just I was just stunned.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And was how much Sid did so much worse than I.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
To one sided? Yeah, and you know, after the did
she do better than I expected her to do?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Did she have some gaffs? Yes, with her face so facial,
you know, tics and those types of things.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She did laugh a little bit.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
So you owe me dinner?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
What?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I never took that bet.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah we did. No, Yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I summarily reject the premise.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
This person says, I'm not sure if the broadcast version
is similar, but in the last few weeks, your interviews
have been cut off with no notice and goes straight
to commercials. That is my fault. I have to apologize
to you for that. There are times when yes, I delay,
I'm running my own board, so it's kind of crazy.
As Kelly will attest to, I have to delay because
there's just one more thing I'm doing the Colombo right
(12:59):
the peter fulk with, whether it be Heidi Ganaw or
Danielle Jorinski in the previous hour, And I apologize sincerely
for that. I know that over the air when you're listening,
especially on the app, I believe it is that it
will go to.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Break and it will cut me off.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But if there's anything that you missed, rest assured you
can catch it full version in the podcast. Always be
sure to subscribe, download listen to. If you're so kind
to leave me a five star review, that would be
much appreciated. And that's Ryan Schuling live on every major
podcast platform, and also in those versions online you get
(13:35):
a lot fewer commercials, so there's a little bit of
an advantage to that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Kyle Clark is a this person.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's Okayle Clark is a homoseecon.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
He's not gay, he's married, he's got kids. I mean,
come on, Kyle Clark is just a chirk.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
There you go, let's just insert jerk for that word,
because I don't think we need to spread fake news gay.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He's tested ass.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Well, the second part of this is true, and it
hates conservative women. Fact check true. Yes, I mean, look
how he treads Danielle A test to that, Danielle Jerinski,
Heidi Ganall, Lauren Bobert. That's just three off the top
of my head, and I've talked to each one of them.
It's a it's a bizarre obsession. And if you watched him,
he was like a puppy dog in the primary debate
that he moderated and he got national acclaimed for and
(14:25):
Jimmy Kimmy kim Alive because he kept going in on
Lauren Bobert. Bobert finds him a little creepy. I don't
think I'm speaking out of school there. It's just true.
It's weird. And as you guys know, Lauren comes on
this program all the time because I'm not a creepy,
weird o jerk.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's just that simple.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, just further to that point, I have a
wonderful relationship with her opponent, Tricia Calvarese.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And you know I.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Because I don't I don't view it as being my
job to come in there and do the heavy lifting
for either one of those candidates. If Tricia is gracious
enough to come on this program and give me her time,
I'm going to treat her with respect, period. And she
feels that. And if you don't believe me, go ahead
and ask her. Kyle Clark can't say the same thing
for my good comrade over on nine News, A.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Time out would come back.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We'll talk more about this day September eleventh, twenty three
years ago today, Dave Prophet joins us next.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
America today is on bend and me in prayer for
the people who live or lost here, for the workers
who work here, for the families who wore this nation
stands with the good people of New York City and
New Jersey and Connecticut. Go as we more in the
(15:49):
lass from thousands of our citizens over. I can hear you,
I can hear you.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
The rest of the wall hears you, and the people.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
And the people who knocked these feelings down.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
We'll hear all of us soon.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I just remember the raw emotion of that day. That
was a couple of days after the attacks of September
eleventh and George W. Bush with the megaphone on top
of a portion of the rubble, speaking to the gathered
firefighters and first responders, rescuers that were there to search
for potential survivors for those who had been killed, and
(16:52):
just tremendous in the aftermath. I thought, the heroic actions
of George W. Bush and how he helped keep this
country together beside any of the criticism you may have
of him, separate from that, but in response to that day,
you know, his soothing words I thought were much needed
at a time when we were very wounded as a
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country and we're very uncertain of where this would all lead.
And joining us now to help commemorate twenty three years
since the attacks of nine to eleven. Dave Prophet. He
is the founder of American Heroes in Action. It's a
tremendous group. You can find out more online and American
Heroes Inaction dot org. And what an appropriate day to
talk to him, Dave, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Thank you. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
When you think about this day, September eleventh, and the
impact that it had on your life personally, and maybe
how it changed the trajectory of your life and your perspective.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How would you put that into words?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Wow, that's that's a challenge. It's as you know, and
we've talked about before. I never served, so it's all
just a civilian and like so many civilians we watch,
but you and I know a lot of veterans and
first responders, and it's tough for me. It's nothing like
(18:18):
what it's for me, what it's like for those men
and women who have worn the uniform of this country.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And it's part of why you helped found American Heroes
in Action, Dave. And I know you speak as a civilian,
but this group does so much to honor those who served,
and it's such a unique perspective that you provide compared
to a lot of great organizations that are out there
like Wounded Warrior Project and Disabled American Veterans, etc. There's
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an event that you brought to my attention that's happening
today called a Round of Golf. To never forget, it's
happening in a lot of states, including right here in Colorado.
Take us through that event, who's participating in it, and
why it was important to hold that event well.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
As you can imagine, today is a tough day for
a lot of our veterans and first responders, and we
at American Heroes in Action wanted to have an opportunity
for these men and women to get out of the house,
to get away from work, to spend time with other
men and women with shared similar experiences, and spend a
(19:23):
little time outdoors. The organization American Heroes in Action believes
that there is a true therapy and healing to spend
spending time outdoors. So we have a lot of our
volunteers and veterans around the country and we were able
today to put together five different golf outings in four
(19:47):
different states. We have golfers in Florida, Arizona, Mississippi, and Colorado.
If everybody shows up, we'll have thirty two golfers out
today saying a round of golf to never forget. So
it's going to be hopefully a good dose of outdoor therapy.
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And for a lot of these guys, hitting the golf
ball is a lot of fun, but the camaraderie of
spending time with other men and women with shared similar
experiences is way more valuable and way more healing.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And that's such a foundational part of what this organization
stands for Dave profit my friend and a great organizer
as he mentioned, of these types of events for American
Heroes in Action and if you'd like to participate, if
you are a veteran yourself, or you know one who
might benefit from this organization, or you simply would like
to donate or participate. The website once again is American
(20:40):
Heroes Inaction dot org. And i'd like you, once again, Dave,
to get in a little bit more detail as to
why these outings are such an important part of the
healing process. A lot of our veterans who have served
that suffer from PTSD this chance to go out and
do something like a camping trip or a phishing trip,
or today, like you mentioned, a golf outing. What that
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does and how that helps really with the spirit and
the emotional side of our veterans that have come back home.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Well, many of us feel that this is true, the
spending time out doors is healing. But the University of
Utah back in twenty ten, they took in conjunction working
with the Veterans Administration, they took thirteen men and women
with PTSD on a multi day rafting trip and they
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had these men and women keep a diary a little
log while they were on this trip, and when they
came back, they agreed and they saw the results that
there is a true sense of healing and a sense
of therapy and spending out time out doors. They actually
coined the term eco therapy, So it is true that
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spending time out doors provides some eco therapy. And we've
all heard the terrible numbers of twenty two suicides a day.
We have had many veterans who have told us that
if it wasn't for the ability to spend time outdoors,
they might be someone who put a gun in their mouth.
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So what we're doing is providing a little therapy. The
camaraderie is a big help too, but we are also
saving lives by providing therapeutic outdoor adventures or eco therapy
for these men and women.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Dave, I think back to twenty three years ago on
this very day, and not only how the world changed,
but how everything changed. Really there was a pre nine
to eleven world in a post nine to eleven world,
and a lot of these men and women who have
served were called into that service because of the events
of September eleventh. All of them were gen xers, like myself,
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they ascribed to a higher sense of purpose. They went
to Afghanistan, many went to a rock. We lost a
lot of lives, There were a lot of those that
were injured. There were traumatic experiences over there. We've seen
some films made about that. As you talk to these
veterans about those experiences, is this something that they're even
comfortable discussing? Is it something that they tend to hold
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deep inside? And maybe is that why an event like
this today, with the golf outings, the fishing trips, the
camping trips, etc. That maybe it just takes them to
a better place and their minds and their hearts and
their souls.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
It does take them to a better place. And one
of the things that we've learned is very interesting to me.
We include Vietnam veterans on our outdoor adventures, and my
observation is that the veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan,
they have a much easier time talking about their experience
(23:52):
as positive and or negative. And the Vietnam veterans, as
you can imagine, they don't want to talk about anything,
but it is when they get out on these adventures,
they they may sit in a duck blind with someone who's,
you know, forty years younger than they are, but they
both have shared similar experiences. And the Vietnam veteran will
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open up to, you know, a guy who's forty years
younger than he is, and he and somebody who didn't
meet until that morning of the night before, whereas they
haven't told anybody in their family or anybody that they
work with, any of these stories. It is. It's also
therapeutic to get that stuff off your chest. So this
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is kind of therapy. Another thing that we have learned
is and it doesn't matter what the age is. When
a lot of these veterans come back and they can
sit on the couch and they have a lot less
structure in their life, they lose their sense of purpose.
And it doesn't matter, you know, if they're a Vietnam
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veteran or an Iraq in an Afghanistan veteran. And when
we bring these men in and together, even if it's
just a little bit of time together, they feel like
it gives them a sense of purpose. So very very
healing and very therapeutic.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Such a fantastic organization and we can never forget as well.
Though it was an unpopular war, for many valid reasons,
our Vietnam veterans, our heroes as well, and this is
all part of this group American Heroes in Action. Tremendous
event going on today to commemorate September eleventh, called a
round of Golf to Never Forget. Like he said, It's
(25:32):
taking place in Florida, Mississippi, Arizona, Colorado today and this
is just one of many events that you can find
out more about if you go to their website, check
them out. And cannot encourage you strongly enough to find
out more about them. American Heroes Inaction dot org. The
founder of the President, Dave Prophet, joining us on this
very solemn day. Dave, thank you so much for your
time and for all you do with American Heroes in Action.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Thank you, Ryan, Dave Prophet our.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Guest thoughts five seven, seven thirty nine, appreciate those Send
those texts. Ryan closing out the show on this September eleventh,
We come back after this, Ryan shiling live on six
point thirty KL. That from Alan Jackson, one of the
many songs that followed the aftermaths of the attacks of
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nine to eleven twenty three years ago. Today, am I
thanks to Dave Prophet for joining us in the previous segment.
He is the founder of American Heroes in Action, tremendous organization.
As he mentioned Vietnam War veterans, veterans of those who
served in Iraq and Afghanistan. We cannot thank them enough,
we cannot provide enough for them. And this is why
(26:42):
when Senator jd Vance, who hopefully will be our vice
president and is a Marine Corps veteran himself, speaks so
passionately about how we treat our veterans and the fact
that somebody that is here illegally, that broke our laws
to get into this country would go to the front
of the line ahead of a veteran that needs our
help perish. The thought absolutely abominable to me. And so
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please check out American Heroesinaction dot org if you haven't already.
Just a great organization and they could really use your support.
This from Mike and Henderson, all of the cats in
Ohio are taking to the streets chanting stop immigration. Meow, yeah,
I gotta go super Troopers on that one. Do I
look like I can't A whisker saucerful milk, Thanks Mike,
(27:34):
he says, I just wanted to lighten things up. I
love using the Trump cat memes for humorous comic relief
purposes here on this show with all of you.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's for us to chuckle about. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I did not like that Trump went there in the
debate last night, although there's conflicting stories that it may
actually be happening. But is this going back to my
conversation earlier and if you missed it, check it out
on the podcast Daniel Jorinsk when you leap to an extreme,
you give daylight to somebody like David Muir, Lindsay Davis,
comrade Kyle Clark to then go to that extreme and
(28:10):
not talk about the real issue at hand. That there
are Venezuelan gangs in Aurora. That is a fact. Now,
whether they've taken over the city, no, have they commandeered
some apartment complexes?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is that a problem? Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Are Haitian illegals eating cats? Debatable? Are they there in
causing problems like lots of car accidents and ripping the
heads off of ducks?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well? Yeah, so this is the art of the debate.
Is this is what Trump is very poor at.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I have to say is do not go to that extreme,
stay focused, stay in that kind of middle zone where
you have definable, tangible, verifiable proof, and a solid foundation
from which to launch your debate tactics and attacks. You
create an opening by going to an extreme that's debatable.
That is what your opponent's going to focus on, and
(29:07):
that is where I think Trump failed to seal the
deal last night.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
In the debate.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Harris did herself well, but as you'll hear coming up
on the Dan Kaflis Show, I don't think it was
as rosy as a lot of people are painting for her,
and I don't think the debate went is poorly for
Donald Trump. Upon reflection, as I went through and edited
that first thirty to forty five minutes of audio, I
don't think of one as badly for Donald Trump as
maybe we originally thought as well,
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