December 16, 2025 • 42 mins
Victor Marx, 2026 Republican candidate for Colorado governor, joins Ryan in a frank exchange on several issues - including why he is passing on a January 10 debate in Weld County, his battle against brain trauma and bipolar disorder, his stance on whether Tina Peters should be pardoned, his armed standoff with his own brother-in-law on his own property, and his unsucessful effort to rescue and save a Canadian young woman named 'Holly' from her alleged groomer and sexual abuser.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Back here with a reminder that coming up on January tenth,
a little less than a month from right now, between
one thirty and three thirty pm at the Double Tree
by Hilton in Greeley, we'll be holding a Republican Governor
candidate forum. Yours truly along with Mandy Connell serving as
the moderators. Five of the six major candidates is defined
by Sheriff Steve Reimsenweld County and Steve Wells, who is
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helping put on this event. Major GOP donor will be
in attendance, including Congressman Greg Lopez, State Senators Mark Baisley
and Barb Kirkmeyer, State Representative Scott Bottoms, and Sheriff Jason
mike sel. All but Mark Baisley I believe have appeared
on this program and joining us now. He is unable
to attend, but he joins us in studio for the
full hour and he is open to your questions as well.
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By text at five seven seven thirty nine, Victor marks
our guest. Victor, thanks for being here. You bet I
want to go through this exchange about the debate. You
were invited and you said in this thread thank you
for organizing. But Unfortunately, I will be out of state
and an event that we schedu weeks ago. What event
is that and where is it?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's actually four events in Florida, and it was set
before I even announced that I was going to run
for governor. So being someone that stays true and is
a man of my word, I'm simply going to keep
to my commitment. They're fundraiser events, both for the organization
I founded ATP Ministries, which helps abuse traffic youth and
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the US and overseas, and then actually a fundraiser for
my campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Both Barb Kirkmeyer and Greg Lopez responded to that asking
are you available the next weekend, because I, for one,
would be willing to adjust my schedule so we can
all be part of the forum. That was from Kirkmeyer
and the Lopez says, I could also readjust my schedule
to accommodate your participation. If you care to share a
stage with us, is there a date upcoming that you
believe would work.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For a debate. I'm very excited about debating when my
schedule allows, and when we understand exactly what the rules
of engagement are. Ryan, Let's let's just go straight to it.
Do you have any bias against me, yes or no, you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Personally, I'm here to find out more about you as
a candidate, Victor, and about your background experience.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Great, but that's not the question I asked me coming.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This is the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, this is a two way conversation. But because of
your background, your relationships, my relationships with who other people
who maybe don't align with me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is not about me, Victor. This is about you
and your candidate.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's actually not necessarily about me. It's about im. I
want to make sure that I understand clearly based on
some of the programs and guests you've had without having
me on to giving me every bottle year right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Invited for months, Victor to come on this program, months
literally months.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Roger, Well, in the control room we had to chase
you down to get it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And that's absolutely well. We have the receipts. There's no receipts. Yes, Victor, stop,
come on. I have had an invite out to you
for a couple of months now and you have now
come on the show and we're here to talk about
it now right right. But before we get in this,
I just want you to be honest. I am honest
about do you have a bias against me, Not at all,
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not any more than I do against any of these
other candidates. I don't endorse candidates in the primary. I
don't work for any of the other candidates. I have
no preferential treatment for any of them. I asked Greg
Lopez about his domestic violence charge going back thirty years.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
He addressed that I asked Kirkmeyer about her support for
secession for Weld County that was controversial stance at the time.
I've also asked her about her vote for competency in
the Senate when that has turned out to be an
absolute disaster. So I'm you know, I'm here to ask
questions of you, Victor, and to ask you I guess
we would here initially. Why would an event in Florida
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trump a debate in Colorado where a couple hundred constituents
potential voters would be in attendance. Why wouldn't you maybe
try to move the events in Florida or try to
move the date of the debate maybe a week later
somewhere there, so that you would be able to participate.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
First of all, I'm a minima word. I'm keeping my
commitment this was set well before even announced, so I'm
not going to try to change anything. The other thing
is I never said I would not do a debate.
I said the exact opposite. I'm looking forward to a
debate with any candidates. But the question that I have is,
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and I really appreciate the other candidates and Steve and
you being very excited about me wanting to debate them,
but why is this such a big deal that I
can't make that one debate.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, it's a chance for you to articulate your policy positions, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I have been articulating my policy ever since I announced,
event after event after event.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Those we know that those events are different from an
on stage, interactive, live debate where you have to engage
with the other candidates. Now, I want you to rest
what Steve Wells said here. He's a prominent GOP donor
and he's helping put this on, and he said this.
I want you to respond to it. I want to
thank everybody that agreed to the debate. It was disappointing
that Victor Marx is not coming, but not unexpected. I
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told those that I knew supported him that he would
never show. Now they know his out of state commitments
must outweigh his need to talk to people in northern Colorado.
Every decision has a consequence, and you responded on the
text thread, But I want you to respond to that
for our listeners too, if you would please.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I'll just respond with what I said. First of all,
when I let them know politely, I couldn't make it.
I guess some people's feelings were hurt, and they deleted
me from the thread. It's like a high school drama.
I'm chuckling inside. And then they decided to add me
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back on for mister Wells, I called him a six
million dollar man. For mister Wells to put that statement
out to me in front of the which I don't
even know him, he doesn't know me. I responded by this, Steve,
every decision does have consequences by conventional policy strategy. I
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suppose this means I'm making things easier for the other
candidates by not being there, including yours. Whoever he's chosen
in supporting Time will tell, But I invited him if
you're ever down in Colorado, Springs considered this an open
invitation to our leadership training. I'll buy the first cup
of coffee and we can have a real conversation. You
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seem to have a lot to say about me, and
I'm always one of the discussings face to face, so
things don't get lost in these silly texts. I wish
everyone on Merry Christmas safety to all.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This debate was set up by Steve Wells and Sheriff
Steve Raims with a month notice exactly, so it would
have been December tenth preparing for January tenth. You already
had some events schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
How far in advance would you require notice in order
to participate in a debate.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, it just depends on my schedule and what I
have going. Look, I'm going to debate when I want
and who I want, period And.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Why is that up to you? The other five candidates
agreed to this debate. They have other obligations too, and you,
why is your time more valuable than theirs?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
My time is not more valuable than theirs. But listen,
if the purpose of me running is to win in Colorado,
not Florida, that's brilliant. Ryan, your professional for all these years,
and that's what you come up with.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Your event is in Florida. You told me that you
have four events in Florida. You just said that, Sir.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Captain obvious, you're stating what we're going over again and again.
If the purpose is for me to win, right, and
I have a very disciplined strategic campaign team, I choose
the events when apparently we're leading in every aspect. I chuckle.
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I mean the fact we're having this conversation. Five professional
politicians wanted me to show up so they could have
a little shark tank. And I'm chuckling because you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Think are colluding against you, not all five, No, I
do not. You think some of the five, including again.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think that when they put the text out and
four of the five responded within seven minutes, that's some
people who are eager to get to a debate. Is
the first I heard of it, and I'm like, wow,
that sounds fun. I let me check. I checked with
my schedule. He goes, No, we have those events in Florida.
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So I polite.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You understand how that just what you said there, that's
kind of a bad look for Colorado voters to know
that an event in Florida, no matter when it was scheduled, right,
takes precedence over debate in front of Colorado voters. And constituents.
Why would a fundraising event in Florida be more prominent,
be more important than talking directly to voters in a debate?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For Ryan, if the goal of my candidacy is to win,
and I have a discipline, structured approach and we set
the strategy, who says that this is going to hurt me?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I don't know whether it's going to help or hurt you.
But I don't know why you wouldn't be focused on
fundraising events in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
For instance, past Sunday fundraiser event? Do you know why Thursday?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Why is raising money in Florida a priority at all?
When you're running for governor in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let me see it again. Do you know where I
was this past Sunday?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I wasn't with you Thursday fundraiser events. Do you know
I have a podcast this afternoon? Do you know I
have an event tomorrow morning? I have been booked, throttling
and enjoying it. All of our events are packed, out
standing room only. I don't need advice from you. Are
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Steve Reems, Are Steve Wells or Barb Kirtmeyer? They are?
They can run their campaign, they can run their debates.
They should do what's best for them. But I'm telling you,
as Victor Martz, who's leading this by a structured discipline,
professional an emotional approach to winning, we're in the lead
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and I don't need to do anything that goes outside
of our bounds of what we're going to do to win.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Victor Marks our guest. You can send your text at
five seven seven three nine and we're going to get
some sound here that I wanted to respond to. This
from October of twenty sixteen was a Facebook.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Post vickt and Ilean Marks here with all things possible
ministries and we've been telling everyone that we have a
big announcement today and this is it. Recently, many of
you know had brain scans done because of some physical
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challenges that I've been having, and simply put, after two
days of testing, the specialists came back and let me
know that I'm a scull one to four. I was
a three plus four being severe brain. That is it trauma?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Trauma?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, so damage. Yeah. So I've been trying to tell
him that, well the truth, Well, I've been trying to
take you I have a brain.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yes, we know that.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Now we do something, it's official trauma to So you
know whatever that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Was from nine years ago, Victor, this scale of one
to four? What scale is that? You said you had
three plus level brain trauma on a scale one to four.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That was at the Doctor Amen Clinics, which Doctor Amin
actually appeared in the Trauma post Traumatic Stress PTS, the
video and workbook that we produced. I became an advocate
for those who have struggled or had PTSD a traumatic
brain injury. So that's congruent with my life of sharing
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my challenges and my struggles.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm talking about the scale it's self, though, because the
most widely.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yet is from doctor Amen's clinic.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
His his own scale of one to four. I guess
because I can't find it anywhere else. Any medical journals
did you contain medical.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Act Amen clinics who are the leading experts on brain
pet scams?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Are you aware of the Rancho loss Amigos scale of
one to ten.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I simply came under doctor Amen's clinics. Are you a
doctor yourself?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, I'm just citing what the most widely used scale
is for cognitive indist jerk.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You should get the facts here.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, let's assume those facts are correct. Should somebody with
a three plus level brain trauma on a scale of
one to four be running for governor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Let me ask you this, do you know anyone who
has struggled with traumatic brain entry or PTSD that is
in positions of leadership or being outstanding citizens contributing to society.
Do you personally know anyone?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm sure there are many. This is not about me, Victor.
This is about whether or not somebody with brain injury.
And you also mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I've been suffering with depression for about fourteen months now.
I know. I've had people even close to me say, gosh,
but you always seem so happy and up, and you
know what, that's That's not uncommon for someone with depression
who's a full throttle person and never gives up. The
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problem is it just caught up with me. I endured
for about fourteen months, and it was under a doctor's care,
but it recently a few weeks ago, I had no
other options and I stopped functioning to the point where
I could continue working in a healthy way, and I
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just hit bottom.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
How long ago was that spell of depression for fourteen
months that stopped you from fireunctioning?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Probably twelve years ago, I think probably twelve years ago
is when I started getting help. Have you ever suffered
from depression?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
My mom had bipolar disorder, which I know you've spoken it.
I have about and I lived with that my entire life, and.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm sad for that. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Are you still struggling with that right now?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I do not know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I haven't been on medication for gosh for that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What do you credit with overcoming that disorder?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Two things, really good psychiatric help, great counseling, ongoing one
hundred and twenty three visits to a trauma specialist. And
then my daughter, who at the time was she was young,
I think probably sixth grade. She went into school, She
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went to Christian school, and when they asked for prayer request,
she literally said, I pray that my dad would not
have to take medications anymore. I was twenty five longer
years ago, and something happened that I can only describe
as some type of miracle, because I was able to
start winning off my meds, and I was warned by
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the psychiatrist at the VA, if you do this, it's
going to come back. It never has, and I'm thankful
to God that, I guess miracles still do happen you me?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Remember Tom Cruise speaking out pretty strongly against SSRIs. Would
you share that view and that you believe maybe medication
can be counterproductive rather than helpful.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I would say this, there's a place for medications. I
would say short term is best, and there are a
lot of other things that can help minimize depression, which exercise, nutrition,
healthy relationships. The woman that you see behind me for
thirty seven years we've been married and the biggest reason
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while I'm been healthy here and extremely successful and effective
in doing some of the most high rist things around
the world, both because of her support prayers, just like
our daughter. And then I would just say she was
on a lot of missions and positions with us. So yeah,
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if there's anyone that can speak to the level of
mental health that have had the challenges I've gone through,
is the woman sitting behind me.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Do you think that your opponent's in the primary or
should you win the nomination against the Democratic machine Senator
Michael Bennett, that they will use this in a campaign
against you, and if so, how would you respond to
them doing that?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, they absolutely will. I mean Mike Bennett is he's
already come out against me. He put me in his
newsletter two weeks after I announced it was back in October.
Did you know that he put me in his newsletter?
He hasn't come against any other Republicans. And yesterday I
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was told by someone firsthand who was sitting with them
on a plane discussing was sitting with his general counsel
for his campaign. They said, they're not worried about anyone else.
This was their words, that the other candidates they're not
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concerned with, but they are worried about November because of
one person. And they asked, do you know a fellow
named Victor Marxi came out of nowhere? That was a
conversation being held. And so I am the person that
worried about I do think I want this primary to
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go fast, furious, get it done with, because I need
people like Senator Kirkmyer, Representative Bottoms, Mark Baisley, who we've talked.
He called me and said, Victor, You're going to need
my help after the primaries. And I'm saying this to everyone.
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I need their help. I know they want to try
to knock me out of the running, and I can
appreciate that, but here's why I'm running. No one else
can win in the general. But me, if Senator Kirkmeyer could,
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if she really could, I wouldn't be running if Scott
Bottom's who I know and I've called a friend. I
text him when his father passed away. I wrote on
his Facebook page it was his anniversary thirty five years
with him and his bride yesterday. Scott can't win the general.
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He called me the night before I announced and he said, Victor,
don't announce. I said why why? And I'm talking to
him as a friend who I've spoken at his church Ryan,
and my life's not been anything but normal. So I'm like,
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what's going on? What do I need to know Scott?
And he said, I've been trying to get a hold
of you because you know I'm running for governor and
I want you to be my lieutenant governor, ask him direct.
So I was very.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I felt honored that Scott would ask me to be
his lieutenant governor, meaning if he couldn't carry on his duties,
I would have to step into that position. So obviously
Scott thought highly enough of me. But when this attack
against me, and look, I'm not here to defend myself.
I haven't defended myself for the twenty six minutes. I
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won't for the next half hour. I'm only here to
bring light into darkness, truth into what he lies. Could
I've done it sooner? Yes, it's probably me not understanding
the political game because I'm not a politician. I could
have set the record straight on my DD two fourteen,
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which Sheriff Rames was like, and I'm thinking, why is this?
Why are people twisting truth, making up lies, starting a website.
The woman that you had on that was the most
ridiculous thing. She was obviously not this poor helpless older
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lady saying, oh, he's being mean to me. Do you
know the crowd went wild when I told her we're done.
You're calling me a liar. And here's what's interesting. Why
And I'm wondering why you didn't ask her this. Her
premise of what she said was factual was when I
was on Dan's show, which you were producing at the time. Correct,
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She said, you said your hands are tired as a governor,
and I couldn't do anything about abortion. I said, ma'am,
it was an open mic, ma'am. I never said that.
She goes, yes, you did, look in the transcript. That
is one thing you should have told her, ma'am, I
was the producer. I didn't hear him say that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, I did confront her because what you were referencing
is correct, and that Amendment seventy nine was passed by
the voters, and I think she got lost in the
sauce of not having that specific reference. There was another
older lady who had asked you a question along those
same lines too, and was also mistaken about who held
the power in that The governor signed it, but it
was because of Amendments seventy nine that had passed. So
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that's the point you were making. We got to take
a time out. Yep, we'll come back, very frank discussion
with Victor Marx, candidate for governor and the Republican primary
more along with your text five seven seven three nine,
after this Ryan schooling.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Life, the poorly run state of Colorado with a governor
who's incompetent, and frankly, with a governor that won't allow
our wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in
a high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on
an election and they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating.
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She went over, she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years. The governor of Colorado
is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trende Ragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of
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Colorado and he was afraid to do anything. But he
puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught
people cheating. And when she walked over and got involved
in it, they said she was cheered. She wasn't cheating.
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
You'll see that coming.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Out more and more.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
President Trump on Tina Peters the mesa county clerk who
is currently serving time for her participation in dominion voting
systems and opening up those machines for people that did
not have authorization. She was prosecuted, she was convicted. Donald
Trump issues a federal pardon, but that does not hold
any weight over a state charge that Tina Peters faces.
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So he took on Governor Polis right there and joining
us now a candidate to replace Jared Polis, Republican Victor
Marx victor, your comments and what you heard from the
president there, well, you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Always kind of know where Donald Trump stands. That's true.
He's not shy on his Patti, and I appreciate him
caring for an elderly woman who I do believe. The
sentencing has been horrific. I'm only in this two and
a half months. I'm not the subject matter expert. I
wasn't in part of the trial, but I do know
this by speaking to people from Masa County who were
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involved and impacted. She was tried by you know, der
River Piers. They found her guilty. That I don't take
issue it because I wasn't part of any of that.
What I do take issue at is the sentencing. I
mean nine years Look, my daughter was recently assaulted broad
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daylight and Briargate. She came to me yesterday, getting off
the phone with the district attorney in tears. She said, Dad,
it's three felony counts against him in a misdemeanor. Because
my daughter stepping up caused other women to come forward,
young girls who had been attacked by this. I mean,
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his record is horrible. He's a resiterant sex offender. He's
a professional predator. And the most he's gonna get now
they're saying is like three years, but then time served.
Maybe it's he'll be out in nine months. My daughter's
in tears, So why would this guy get such a
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minimum sentencing? And then Tina Peters, a non violent offender,
first time elderly woman, get nine years. So my commitment
to this is day one of governor. I'll commuter sentence.
I'll not pardon it because that means she never committed
a crime. I'm not going to go against that, but
I'll commute. She should be set free. She deserves to
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be set free. This is ridiculous. I think Paulis and
the Democrats weaponize her case, this system to make an
example out of her. There's no justice in nine years.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Not a lot of justice in Colorado right now, victories.
You're well aware. The one issue that's driving me nots
along with whether it's Sheriff Steve Reems or George Brockler,
the twenty third District Attorney, is this whole issue of
competency and how this ever got entered into Colorado law
in that you can go shrink shopping, find a psychiatrist
that deems you not fit to stand trial could be won.
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That's it. The chargers are thrown out. We saw this
play out on an elementary school playground in broad daylight
here in Aurora. Solomon Gallaghant a registered sex offender in Pueblo,
and because he wasn't competent to stand trial, he'll be
held for a time interminable, but they'll let him out
at whatever point they run out of beds and he's
back out into society. How would you confront that, knowing
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that there were Republicans, like one of your opponents, Senator
Barb Kirkmeyer, who voted for this standard of competency.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, I'll tell you it's one of the This is
one of my key positions and platforms is safety and
the crime issue. It's we've got to replace judges, which
I can do. We have to change legislation, and we
have to allow law enforcement to talk about having your
hands tied. Allow law enforcement just to do their damn job.
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The morale of law enforcement, I don't care whether it's state, local,
even federal working with they're so hamstrung here in Colorado.
It's the criminals that could care less if they're caught
have to go to court. They'll be out. It's this
turnaround system. But I'll tell you one of the things
I will do, because we're good at it, is we
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will see justice for real justice. Did you know I
started a think tank several years ago and then from
that we started Protecting Children's and since task Force, which
is we've signed MOUs with federal, state, local, and we've
never taken any government money. But yet in the past month,
I know we had at least six children recovered from
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horrible trafficking. I can't wait to bring this here to Colorado.
And somebody said, what are you gonna do about the gangs?
That part simple. We hunt them, we catch them, we
deport them or convict them. But it's time for it's
time for the criminals to start being afraid to go
to court and not the victims. It's we're way overdue.
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With that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Victor Marx joining us up. Kennedy for Governor will take
another quick time out come back wrapid this hour with
him along with your questions at five seven, seven, three
nine via the text line on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Well, one other question that came in, and I'll I'll
let you get on your way. I know you're traveling
and doing other stuff. One other question, you told a
story about a person who tried to shoot you at
point blank range, and the question on that the texture
put in is was that your brother in law? Is that?
Is that the relationship between the suspect and you?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It is, And I've tried to be quiet to degree
about that because it's personal. It's still the court case
is still growing on. Okay, but it's almost like, you know,
the Chris Kyle situation. We were trying to help him.
He was on our property inside of a trailer, and
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when I went to check on him, I knocked on
the window and he had a little pistol and boom.
He shot the first round and it was literally we
measured at thirty six inches from his barrel to my head.
It missed me by one finger. I got a little
bit of trapnel because he hit the center of the
frame liman frame. But yeah, the tragedy of that, all
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that was a twenty minute delay. I pulled a weapon.
I could have dropped the mag into that trailer. I
didn't know if he had my daughter, sure or someone
else sitting there, so I waited and it was a
twenty minute delay for the first office arrival scene, which
again I'm not blaming a Passo County sheriff Department. I've
gone down there, I've helped train those guys. I love them.
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But it is poor leadership from the top all the
way down that won't fund, that won't equip, that won't
train our law enforce them the right way to let
them do their job.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Victor marks with Sheriff Steve Reams filling in for Dan
Kaplis a month ago. Victor, you described this scene in
a couple of videos previous to that. You did not
reveal in those videos that it was in fact your
brother in law right who fired that shot. You two
questions along these lines, because it goes back to what
we were talking about law enforcement. You criticize the response
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time there of the Alpaso County Sheriff's Department, But then
also it would appear that your brother in law was
a deeply disturbed individual and you felt maybe that he
was best off, at least with the facts as you
knew him at the time, under your care, rather than
in some psychiatric ward with kind of doctors in that field.
Do you have a general distrust in our medical establishment
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in law enforcement where does that come from and where
do you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, none at all. I'm pro law enforcement. I'm pro
mental health. It's one of the things that I'm taking seriously.
I want to become governor here. It's we've had challenges
of trying to help people. That's what my wife had
to do. We help people. Her brother he had self
siense issues right, and he came to again. Some of
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it is so personal where the caregivers of her mom
and stepfather ninety and ninety one. Okay, he came and
visited us and he's like, man, I'd love to move
out here. He didn't have a job at the time,
but he was a former construction worker contractor. Great guy.
We move him out and unbeknownst to us, he started
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using again and he was helping us with his parents. Well,
he didn't show up for two days and the trailer
was right next to the house. So when I went
to check on him, that's when he pulled a pistol
shot on me. He ended up shooting five rounds. I
didn't call law enforcement right away because he's my brother
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in law and if to shoot him would have caused
a lot of problems and our family a funeral. It's
and he's from California, So we waited. We waited. I
tried to talk him out, he still wouldn't come. Then
we called N one one my wife did they have
her on the recording? Five and a half hours stand off.
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At that point we knew it. You know, the best
place for him will be prison for amount of time
to get clean, straight, sober and his head on right.
It was more substance abuse than mental health issues. So
sadly are the way our laws are set up. He
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was able to bail and I begged the DA, do
not build this guy out. We can't trust him, and
they bailed him out. And unfortunately the girlfriend, his girlfriend
named Mary, who bailed him out, they got an argument
and he murdered her with a shotgun to her face.
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So it's.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I got to believe with what just happened too on
Sunday night in Brentwood, California, Rob Reiner and his wife
being stabbed to death by his own son. I mean
that had to really hit home for you, I'd imagine,
well somewhat.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So I posted a video today Rob's words about Charlie
and Erica, and you know, when COVID hit I remember
speaking to my staff and doctors. I mean, we have
a doctor of psychology on our campaign team right now,
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and I remember the general consensus is this COVID, this lockdown,
what our government is doing to us, especially the state.
There will be ramifications that people really don't and that's
why I'm so concerned about our youth. That's why I'm
so concerned about the future. Mental health care needs to
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be addressed. And we went and talked to I mean,
I'm talking to leaders in the field who actually trained psychologists.
I brought today for you a copy of my A
Trauma Book with but that's what we've got sure called triggered.
We've tried to help protect people who've been affected by trauma,
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whether it was PTSD or traumatic brain entry for civilians.
I mean, right now, right now, today, I'm supposed to
be in Korea speaking to the largest US military base
there for the US Army on resiliency, on mental health,
on counter suicide because the suicide rate is so high.
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The dd hired me and I've spoken at so many
bases so on the point and to end, we cannot
disqualify people in a stereotype statement of who can and
who can't do certain things. I'm an example to millions
and even people that I mentor, from special operations, community
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commanders to the Pentagon to well I started with, are incarcerated.
You can live beyond the label that somebody places on you.
It's God, All things are possible, and just don't ever
give up. My book talks about that, the film on
my life story, and most importantly, the millions of people
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we've helped who have been trafficked, who've survived. And I'd
like to close on this. The young lady you had
on recently, Holly. It's someone that we went and rescued
from a pedophile got across into and Ron. I was
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sad to hear because to me it was a form
of re victimization. Whether you believe it or not, I
don't think you should have had her on.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Because she came to me. Just to make that clear,
it doesn't justify it. Well, why did you post a
video of her with her face showing This is the
point of contention that Anastasia had with you, right that
maybe that was not in her best interest at that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Once she wanted to be baptized. Her life was on
the uptick. We've got a video that I can play
right now for your listeners. Are you We documented all
of this and when it came time, she asked to
be baptized, and then she wanted everybody to know she
was doing great. This is the pedophile that was sitting
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next to her when you were interviewing her. And this
dude some of the guy's name is less leslie Ward.
He's a monster and we had a private investigator.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you have regrets about how that situation all unfolded
and ended? Because she's back there with them now in
British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Right, We're heartbroken. And I'll tell you the one thing
I've told folks, I can rescue just about anybody in
the world, from the forest people, from cartels to isis
confinement centers.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
To get you says like this, why did you feel
compelled though, to bring her across the Canadian word. I
get it when you're going to Iraq and these hostile nations,
but Canada is a civilized country with health services there
have been beneficial to her. Why did you feel Canada
did not have the proper resources to care for her.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That's her dad and that's her before Less, that's her
after Less okay in Anastasia do you know her real name?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I only know where's that?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, we've known her for years and we thank god
she had a heart. She saw what was happening. This
young girl was groomed at age thirteen and then he
got her at sixteen. She was put in a mental
health facility and she wasn't helped and he was waiting
for her when she came back. The day she got out,
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he's going to pick her up. That's the day that
we got her. Look at the joe on her faces,
Anastasia and her husband.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So you felt you needed to remove her entirely from
that situation and from that country.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Not only that, not only that, but this is important
to note. When we were at the border, that's the
head of age counter sex trafficking and when he came
into the room because there was a five and a
half hour interviews to get her clear to cross over them,
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this guy walks into a room and he goes Victor Marx,
big fan, love you work. He told the other staff,
do you not know who this is? Him and his wife.
They've just restd her life to come up and get
this girl. We got clearance, we got through they gave
her a special visa and he said this his words,
the professional from law enforcement. He says, if she gets
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caught or goes back to him, we're scared for her life.
The guys a convicted, and I have the text from Less.
He agrees he was convicted. He raped his former wife's
children and is putting Nova Scotia. Their law system is
messed up in general by far, their health, their mental
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health system is messed up. So the best thing we
could do was get her out, and we spent eleven
weeks working with her with levels of intensity, top psychologists,
top psychi, everything to help her. And this is what
I tell folks. I can rescue about anybody, but I
can't save anyone right right. So we sent her back
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when she was ready to go to her father. She
lasted two days with her dad towards house up and
the predator, this monster Less was waiting. So you know,
they had posted that they had a baby. We're scared
for the baby. But this case isn't over for us,
never is. I've got cases that we've had decade, fifteen
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years later that we still know are there for in help.
So we asked for people's prayers for this. It's super sad,
but and we love Anastasia, thank God for her in
her background, She's come from tough stuff. But we pray
for Holly and we have nothing but love and hope
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for her. But that monster, I pray that he gets
what he deserves for doing what he's done to her
and controlling her. When we're off there because they're limbit
for time, I'll play you an audio message he sent her.
You can hear. You can hear just what a monster
he is. So again, this case hit and over for us.
Nor are the ones that we're still on and we'll
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be able to do more when I'm governor.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I like how you put that doll. You can rescue anybody,
but you can't save Kenna. There's a very big distinction
and difference there. Victor. Mark's our guest for the full
hour plus some time, so we really appreciate you spending
it with us. Here Victor. Find out more about his
campaign Victor twenty twenty six dot com. The first of
what we hope our many conversations go as the primary
is coming up June thirtieth, a little over six months
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from right now. Victor, thank you for your.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I'm glad for our new friendship.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Ron appreciate you. Merry Christmas to you, Toilean, to your
whole family, your whole staff and ensemble in attendance here today.
We'll take this time out, come back next hour. Next
up Tricia Calvareci, the Democrat candidate for the fourth congressional district,
looking for a rematch against Representative Lauren Bobert. Here on
Ryan Schuling Live
Back here with a reminder that coming up on January tenth,
a little less than a month from right now, between
one thirty and three thirty pm at the Double Tree
by Hilton in Greeley, we'll be holding a Republican Governor
candidate forum. Yours truly along with Mandy Connell serving as
the moderators. Five of the six major candidates is defined
by Sheriff Steve Reimsenweld County and Steve Wells, who is
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helping put on this event. Major GOP donor will be
in attendance, including Congressman Greg Lopez, State Senators Mark Baisley
and Barb Kirkmeyer, State Representative Scott Bottoms, and Sheriff Jason
mike sel. All but Mark Baisley I believe have appeared
on this program and joining us now. He is unable
to attend, but he joins us in studio for the
full hour and he is open to your questions as well.
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By text at five seven seven thirty nine, Victor marks
our guest. Victor, thanks for being here. You bet I
want to go through this exchange about the debate. You
were invited and you said in this thread thank you
for organizing. But Unfortunately, I will be out of state
and an event that we schedu weeks ago. What event
is that and where is it?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's actually four events in Florida, and it was set
before I even announced that I was going to run
for governor. So being someone that stays true and is
a man of my word, I'm simply going to keep
to my commitment. They're fundraiser events, both for the organization
I founded ATP Ministries, which helps abuse traffic youth and
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the US and overseas, and then actually a fundraiser for
my campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Both Barb Kirkmeyer and Greg Lopez responded to that asking
are you available the next weekend, because I, for one,
would be willing to adjust my schedule so we can
all be part of the forum. That was from Kirkmeyer
and the Lopez says, I could also readjust my schedule
to accommodate your participation. If you care to share a
stage with us, is there a date upcoming that you
believe would work.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For a debate. I'm very excited about debating when my
schedule allows, and when we understand exactly what the rules
of engagement are. Ryan, Let's let's just go straight to it.
Do you have any bias against me, yes or no, you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Personally, I'm here to find out more about you as
a candidate, Victor, and about your background experience.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Great, but that's not the question I asked me coming.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This is the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, this is a two way conversation. But because of
your background, your relationships, my relationships with who other people
who maybe don't align with me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is not about me, Victor. This is about you
and your candidate.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's actually not necessarily about me. It's about im. I
want to make sure that I understand clearly based on
some of the programs and guests you've had without having
me on to giving me every bottle year right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Invited for months, Victor to come on this program, months
literally months.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Roger, Well, in the control room we had to chase
you down to get it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And that's absolutely well. We have the receipts. There's no receipts. Yes, Victor, stop,
come on. I have had an invite out to you
for a couple of months now and you have now
come on the show and we're here to talk about
it now right right. But before we get in this,
I just want you to be honest. I am honest
about do you have a bias against me, Not at all,
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not any more than I do against any of these
other candidates. I don't endorse candidates in the primary. I
don't work for any of the other candidates. I have
no preferential treatment for any of them. I asked Greg
Lopez about his domestic violence charge going back thirty years.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
He addressed that I asked Kirkmeyer about her support for
secession for Weld County that was controversial stance at the time.
I've also asked her about her vote for competency in
the Senate when that has turned out to be an
absolute disaster. So I'm you know, I'm here to ask
questions of you, Victor, and to ask you I guess
we would here initially. Why would an event in Florida
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trump a debate in Colorado where a couple hundred constituents
potential voters would be in attendance. Why wouldn't you maybe
try to move the events in Florida or try to
move the date of the debate maybe a week later
somewhere there, so that you would be able to participate.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
First of all, I'm a minima word. I'm keeping my
commitment this was set well before even announced, so I'm
not going to try to change anything. The other thing
is I never said I would not do a debate.
I said the exact opposite. I'm looking forward to a
debate with any candidates. But the question that I have is,
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and I really appreciate the other candidates and Steve and
you being very excited about me wanting to debate them,
but why is this such a big deal that I
can't make that one debate.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, it's a chance for you to articulate your policy positions, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I have been articulating my policy ever since I announced,
event after event after event.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Those we know that those events are different from an
on stage, interactive, live debate where you have to engage
with the other candidates. Now, I want you to rest
what Steve Wells said here. He's a prominent GOP donor
and he's helping put this on, and he said this.
I want you to respond to it. I want to
thank everybody that agreed to the debate. It was disappointing
that Victor Marx is not coming, but not unexpected. I
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told those that I knew supported him that he would
never show. Now they know his out of state commitments
must outweigh his need to talk to people in northern Colorado.
Every decision has a consequence, and you responded on the
text thread, But I want you to respond to that
for our listeners too, if you would please.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I'll just respond with what I said. First of all,
when I let them know politely, I couldn't make it.
I guess some people's feelings were hurt, and they deleted
me from the thread. It's like a high school drama.
I'm chuckling inside. And then they decided to add me
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back on for mister Wells, I called him a six
million dollar man. For mister Wells to put that statement
out to me in front of the which I don't
even know him, he doesn't know me. I responded by this, Steve,
every decision does have consequences by conventional policy strategy. I
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suppose this means I'm making things easier for the other
candidates by not being there, including yours. Whoever he's chosen
in supporting Time will tell, But I invited him if
you're ever down in Colorado, Springs considered this an open
invitation to our leadership training. I'll buy the first cup
of coffee and we can have a real conversation. You
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seem to have a lot to say about me, and
I'm always one of the discussings face to face, so
things don't get lost in these silly texts. I wish
everyone on Merry Christmas safety to all.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This debate was set up by Steve Wells and Sheriff
Steve Raims with a month notice exactly, so it would
have been December tenth preparing for January tenth. You already
had some events schedule.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
How far in advance would you require notice in order
to participate in a debate.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, it just depends on my schedule and what I
have going. Look, I'm going to debate when I want
and who I want, period And.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Why is that up to you? The other five candidates
agreed to this debate. They have other obligations too, and you,
why is your time more valuable than theirs?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
My time is not more valuable than theirs. But listen,
if the purpose of me running is to win in Colorado,
not Florida, that's brilliant. Ryan, your professional for all these years,
and that's what you come up with.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Your event is in Florida. You told me that you
have four events in Florida. You just said that, Sir.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Captain obvious, you're stating what we're going over again and again.
If the purpose is for me to win, right, and
I have a very disciplined strategic campaign team, I choose
the events when apparently we're leading in every aspect. I chuckle.
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I mean the fact we're having this conversation. Five professional
politicians wanted me to show up so they could have
a little shark tank. And I'm chuckling because you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Think are colluding against you, not all five, No, I
do not. You think some of the five, including again.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think that when they put the text out and
four of the five responded within seven minutes, that's some
people who are eager to get to a debate. Is
the first I heard of it, and I'm like, wow,
that sounds fun. I let me check. I checked with
my schedule. He goes, No, we have those events in Florida.
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So I polite.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You understand how that just what you said there, that's
kind of a bad look for Colorado voters to know
that an event in Florida, no matter when it was scheduled, right,
takes precedence over debate in front of Colorado voters. And constituents.
Why would a fundraising event in Florida be more prominent,
be more important than talking directly to voters in a debate?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For Ryan, if the goal of my candidacy is to win,
and I have a discipline, structured approach and we set
the strategy, who says that this is going to hurt me?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I don't know whether it's going to help or hurt you.
But I don't know why you wouldn't be focused on
fundraising events in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
For instance, past Sunday fundraiser event? Do you know why Thursday?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Why is raising money in Florida a priority at all?
When you're running for governor in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let me see it again. Do you know where I
was this past Sunday?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I wasn't with you Thursday fundraiser events. Do you know
I have a podcast this afternoon? Do you know I
have an event tomorrow morning? I have been booked, throttling
and enjoying it. All of our events are packed, out
standing room only. I don't need advice from you. Are
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Steve Reems, Are Steve Wells or Barb Kirtmeyer? They are?
They can run their campaign, they can run their debates.
They should do what's best for them. But I'm telling you,
as Victor Martz, who's leading this by a structured discipline,
professional an emotional approach to winning, we're in the lead
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and I don't need to do anything that goes outside
of our bounds of what we're going to do to win.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Victor Marks our guest. You can send your text at
five seven seven three nine and we're going to get
some sound here that I wanted to respond to. This
from October of twenty sixteen was a Facebook.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Post vickt and Ilean Marks here with all things possible
ministries and we've been telling everyone that we have a
big announcement today and this is it. Recently, many of
you know had brain scans done because of some physical
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challenges that I've been having, and simply put, after two
days of testing, the specialists came back and let me
know that I'm a scull one to four. I was
a three plus four being severe brain. That is it trauma?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Trauma?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, so damage. Yeah. So I've been trying to tell
him that, well the truth, Well, I've been trying to
take you I have a brain.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yes, we know that.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Now we do something, it's official trauma to So you
know whatever that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Was from nine years ago, Victor, this scale of one
to four? What scale is that? You said you had
three plus level brain trauma on a scale one to four.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That was at the Doctor Amen Clinics, which Doctor Amin
actually appeared in the Trauma post Traumatic Stress PTS, the
video and workbook that we produced. I became an advocate
for those who have struggled or had PTSD a traumatic
brain injury. So that's congruent with my life of sharing
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my challenges and my struggles.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm talking about the scale it's self, though, because the
most widely.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yet is from doctor Amen's clinic.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
His his own scale of one to four. I guess
because I can't find it anywhere else. Any medical journals
did you contain medical.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Act Amen clinics who are the leading experts on brain
pet scams?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Are you aware of the Rancho loss Amigos scale of
one to ten.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I simply came under doctor Amen's clinics. Are you a
doctor yourself?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, I'm just citing what the most widely used scale
is for cognitive indist jerk.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You should get the facts here.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, let's assume those facts are correct. Should somebody with
a three plus level brain trauma on a scale of
one to four be running for governor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Let me ask you this, do you know anyone who
has struggled with traumatic brain entry or PTSD that is
in positions of leadership or being outstanding citizens contributing to society.
Do you personally know anyone?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm sure there are many. This is not about me, Victor.
This is about whether or not somebody with brain injury.
And you also mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I've been suffering with depression for about fourteen months now.
I know. I've had people even close to me say, gosh,
but you always seem so happy and up, and you
know what, that's That's not uncommon for someone with depression
who's a full throttle person and never gives up. The
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problem is it just caught up with me. I endured
for about fourteen months, and it was under a doctor's care,
but it recently a few weeks ago, I had no
other options and I stopped functioning to the point where
I could continue working in a healthy way, and I
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just hit bottom.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
How long ago was that spell of depression for fourteen
months that stopped you from fireunctioning?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Probably twelve years ago, I think probably twelve years ago
is when I started getting help. Have you ever suffered
from depression?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
My mom had bipolar disorder, which I know you've spoken it.
I have about and I lived with that my entire life, and.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm sad for that. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Are you still struggling with that right now?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I do not know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I haven't been on medication for gosh for that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What do you credit with overcoming that disorder?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Two things, really good psychiatric help, great counseling, ongoing one
hundred and twenty three visits to a trauma specialist. And
then my daughter, who at the time was she was young,
I think probably sixth grade. She went into school, She
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went to Christian school, and when they asked for prayer request,
she literally said, I pray that my dad would not
have to take medications anymore. I was twenty five longer
years ago, and something happened that I can only describe
as some type of miracle, because I was able to
start winning off my meds, and I was warned by
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the psychiatrist at the VA, if you do this, it's
going to come back. It never has, and I'm thankful
to God that, I guess miracles still do happen you me?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Remember Tom Cruise speaking out pretty strongly against SSRIs. Would
you share that view and that you believe maybe medication
can be counterproductive rather than helpful.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I would say this, there's a place for medications. I
would say short term is best, and there are a
lot of other things that can help minimize depression, which exercise, nutrition,
healthy relationships. The woman that you see behind me for
thirty seven years we've been married and the biggest reason
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while I'm been healthy here and extremely successful and effective
in doing some of the most high rist things around
the world, both because of her support prayers, just like
our daughter. And then I would just say she was
on a lot of missions and positions with us. So yeah,
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if there's anyone that can speak to the level of
mental health that have had the challenges I've gone through,
is the woman sitting behind me.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Do you think that your opponent's in the primary or
should you win the nomination against the Democratic machine Senator
Michael Bennett, that they will use this in a campaign
against you, and if so, how would you respond to
them doing that?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, they absolutely will. I mean Mike Bennett is he's
already come out against me. He put me in his
newsletter two weeks after I announced it was back in October.
Did you know that he put me in his newsletter?
He hasn't come against any other Republicans. And yesterday I
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was told by someone firsthand who was sitting with them
on a plane discussing was sitting with his general counsel
for his campaign. They said, they're not worried about anyone else.
This was their words, that the other candidates they're not
(18:29):
concerned with, but they are worried about November because of
one person. And they asked, do you know a fellow
named Victor Marxi came out of nowhere? That was a
conversation being held. And so I am the person that
worried about I do think I want this primary to
(18:49):
go fast, furious, get it done with, because I need
people like Senator Kirkmyer, Representative Bottoms, Mark Baisley, who we've talked.
He called me and said, Victor, You're going to need
my help after the primaries. And I'm saying this to everyone.
(19:13):
I need their help. I know they want to try
to knock me out of the running, and I can
appreciate that, but here's why I'm running. No one else
can win in the general. But me, if Senator Kirkmeyer could,
(19:35):
if she really could, I wouldn't be running if Scott
Bottom's who I know and I've called a friend. I
text him when his father passed away. I wrote on
his Facebook page it was his anniversary thirty five years
with him and his bride yesterday. Scott can't win the general.
(19:57):
He called me the night before I announced and he said, Victor,
don't announce. I said why why? And I'm talking to
him as a friend who I've spoken at his church Ryan,
and my life's not been anything but normal. So I'm like,
(20:19):
what's going on? What do I need to know Scott?
And he said, I've been trying to get a hold
of you because you know I'm running for governor and
I want you to be my lieutenant governor, ask him direct.
So I was very.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I felt honored that Scott would ask me to be
his lieutenant governor, meaning if he couldn't carry on his duties,
I would have to step into that position. So obviously
Scott thought highly enough of me. But when this attack
against me, and look, I'm not here to defend myself.
I haven't defended myself for the twenty six minutes. I
(21:01):
won't for the next half hour. I'm only here to
bring light into darkness, truth into what he lies. Could
I've done it sooner? Yes, it's probably me not understanding
the political game because I'm not a politician. I could
have set the record straight on my DD two fourteen,
(21:23):
which Sheriff Rames was like, and I'm thinking, why is this?
Why are people twisting truth, making up lies, starting a website.
The woman that you had on that was the most
ridiculous thing. She was obviously not this poor helpless older
(21:46):
lady saying, oh, he's being mean to me. Do you
know the crowd went wild when I told her we're done.
You're calling me a liar. And here's what's interesting. Why
And I'm wondering why you didn't ask her this. Her
premise of what she said was factual was when I
was on Dan's show, which you were producing at the time. Correct,
(22:07):
She said, you said your hands are tired as a governor,
and I couldn't do anything about abortion. I said, ma'am,
it was an open mic, ma'am. I never said that.
She goes, yes, you did, look in the transcript. That
is one thing you should have told her, ma'am, I
was the producer. I didn't hear him say that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, I did confront her because what you were referencing
is correct, and that Amendment seventy nine was passed by
the voters, and I think she got lost in the
sauce of not having that specific reference. There was another
older lady who had asked you a question along those
same lines too, and was also mistaken about who held
the power in that The governor signed it, but it
was because of Amendments seventy nine that had passed. So
(22:49):
that's the point you were making. We got to take
a time out. Yep, we'll come back, very frank discussion
with Victor Marx, candidate for governor and the Republican primary
more along with your text five seven seven three nine,
after this Ryan schooling.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Life, the poorly run state of Colorado with a governor
who's incompetent, and frankly, with a governor that won't allow
our wonderful Tina to come out of a jail, in
a high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on
an election and they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating.
(23:22):
She went over, she looked at one of the election
scams going on, and because she did that, they put
her in jail for nine years. The governor of Colorado
is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
Trende Ragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of
(23:44):
Colorado and he was afraid to do anything. But he
puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught
people cheating. And when she walked over and got involved
in it, they said she was cheered. She wasn't cheating.
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along
with a lot of other people that cheated on that election.
You'll see that coming.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Out more and more.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
President Trump on Tina Peters the mesa county clerk who
is currently serving time for her participation in dominion voting
systems and opening up those machines for people that did
not have authorization. She was prosecuted, she was convicted. Donald
Trump issues a federal pardon, but that does not hold
any weight over a state charge that Tina Peters faces.
(24:28):
So he took on Governor Polis right there and joining
us now a candidate to replace Jared Polis, Republican Victor
Marx victor, your comments and what you heard from the
president there, well, you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Always kind of know where Donald Trump stands. That's true.
He's not shy on his Patti, and I appreciate him
caring for an elderly woman who I do believe. The
sentencing has been horrific. I'm only in this two and
a half months. I'm not the subject matter expert. I
wasn't in part of the trial, but I do know
this by speaking to people from Masa County who were
(24:58):
involved and impacted. She was tried by you know, der
River Piers. They found her guilty. That I don't take
issue it because I wasn't part of any of that.
What I do take issue at is the sentencing. I
mean nine years Look, my daughter was recently assaulted broad
(25:20):
daylight and Briargate. She came to me yesterday, getting off
the phone with the district attorney in tears. She said, Dad,
it's three felony counts against him in a misdemeanor. Because
my daughter stepping up caused other women to come forward,
young girls who had been attacked by this. I mean,
(25:40):
his record is horrible. He's a resiterant sex offender. He's
a professional predator. And the most he's gonna get now
they're saying is like three years, but then time served.
Maybe it's he'll be out in nine months. My daughter's
in tears, So why would this guy get such a
(26:01):
minimum sentencing? And then Tina Peters, a non violent offender,
first time elderly woman, get nine years. So my commitment
to this is day one of governor. I'll commuter sentence.
I'll not pardon it because that means she never committed
a crime. I'm not going to go against that, but
I'll commute. She should be set free. She deserves to
(26:22):
be set free. This is ridiculous. I think Paulis and
the Democrats weaponize her case, this system to make an
example out of her. There's no justice in nine years.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Not a lot of justice in Colorado right now, victories.
You're well aware. The one issue that's driving me nots
along with whether it's Sheriff Steve Reems or George Brockler,
the twenty third District Attorney, is this whole issue of
competency and how this ever got entered into Colorado law
in that you can go shrink shopping, find a psychiatrist
that deems you not fit to stand trial could be won.
(26:55):
That's it. The chargers are thrown out. We saw this
play out on an elementary school playground in broad daylight
here in Aurora. Solomon Gallaghant a registered sex offender in Pueblo,
and because he wasn't competent to stand trial, he'll be
held for a time interminable, but they'll let him out
at whatever point they run out of beds and he's
back out into society. How would you confront that, knowing
(27:19):
that there were Republicans, like one of your opponents, Senator
Barb Kirkmeyer, who voted for this standard of competency.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, I'll tell you it's one of the This is
one of my key positions and platforms is safety and
the crime issue. It's we've got to replace judges, which
I can do. We have to change legislation, and we
have to allow law enforcement to talk about having your
hands tied. Allow law enforcement just to do their damn job.
(27:50):
The morale of law enforcement, I don't care whether it's state, local,
even federal working with they're so hamstrung here in Colorado.
It's the criminals that could care less if they're caught
have to go to court. They'll be out. It's this
turnaround system. But I'll tell you one of the things
I will do, because we're good at it, is we
(28:12):
will see justice for real justice. Did you know I
started a think tank several years ago and then from
that we started Protecting Children's and since task Force, which
is we've signed MOUs with federal, state, local, and we've
never taken any government money. But yet in the past month,
I know we had at least six children recovered from
(28:34):
horrible trafficking. I can't wait to bring this here to Colorado.
And somebody said, what are you gonna do about the gangs?
That part simple. We hunt them, we catch them, we
deport them or convict them. But it's time for it's
time for the criminals to start being afraid to go
to court and not the victims. It's we're way overdue.
(28:54):
With that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Victor Marx joining us up. Kennedy for Governor will take
another quick time out come back wrapid this hour with
him along with your questions at five seven, seven, three
nine via the text line on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Well, one other question that came in, and I'll I'll
let you get on your way. I know you're traveling
and doing other stuff. One other question, you told a
story about a person who tried to shoot you at
point blank range, and the question on that the texture
put in is was that your brother in law? Is that?
Is that the relationship between the suspect and you?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It is, And I've tried to be quiet to degree
about that because it's personal. It's still the court case
is still growing on. Okay, but it's almost like, you know,
the Chris Kyle situation. We were trying to help him.
He was on our property inside of a trailer, and
(29:46):
when I went to check on him, I knocked on
the window and he had a little pistol and boom.
He shot the first round and it was literally we
measured at thirty six inches from his barrel to my head.
It missed me by one finger. I got a little
bit of trapnel because he hit the center of the
frame liman frame. But yeah, the tragedy of that, all
(30:11):
that was a twenty minute delay. I pulled a weapon.
I could have dropped the mag into that trailer. I
didn't know if he had my daughter, sure or someone
else sitting there, so I waited and it was a
twenty minute delay for the first office arrival scene, which
again I'm not blaming a Passo County sheriff Department. I've
gone down there, I've helped train those guys. I love them.
(30:34):
But it is poor leadership from the top all the
way down that won't fund, that won't equip, that won't
train our law enforce them the right way to let
them do their job.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Victor marks with Sheriff Steve Reams filling in for Dan
Kaplis a month ago. Victor, you described this scene in
a couple of videos previous to that. You did not
reveal in those videos that it was in fact your
brother in law right who fired that shot. You two
questions along these lines, because it goes back to what
we were talking about law enforcement. You criticize the response
(31:06):
time there of the Alpaso County Sheriff's Department, But then
also it would appear that your brother in law was
a deeply disturbed individual and you felt maybe that he
was best off, at least with the facts as you
knew him at the time, under your care, rather than
in some psychiatric ward with kind of doctors in that field.
Do you have a general distrust in our medical establishment
(31:29):
in law enforcement where does that come from and where
do you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, none at all. I'm pro law enforcement. I'm pro
mental health. It's one of the things that I'm taking seriously.
I want to become governor here. It's we've had challenges
of trying to help people. That's what my wife had
to do. We help people. Her brother he had self
siense issues right, and he came to again. Some of
(31:56):
it is so personal where the caregivers of her mom
and stepfather ninety and ninety one. Okay, he came and
visited us and he's like, man, I'd love to move
out here. He didn't have a job at the time,
but he was a former construction worker contractor. Great guy.
We move him out and unbeknownst to us, he started
(32:18):
using again and he was helping us with his parents. Well,
he didn't show up for two days and the trailer
was right next to the house. So when I went
to check on him, that's when he pulled a pistol
shot on me. He ended up shooting five rounds. I
didn't call law enforcement right away because he's my brother
(32:38):
in law and if to shoot him would have caused
a lot of problems and our family a funeral. It's
and he's from California, So we waited. We waited. I
tried to talk him out, he still wouldn't come. Then
we called N one one my wife did they have
her on the recording? Five and a half hours stand off.
(33:02):
At that point we knew it. You know, the best
place for him will be prison for amount of time
to get clean, straight, sober and his head on right.
It was more substance abuse than mental health issues. So
sadly are the way our laws are set up. He
(33:22):
was able to bail and I begged the DA, do
not build this guy out. We can't trust him, and
they bailed him out. And unfortunately the girlfriend, his girlfriend
named Mary, who bailed him out, they got an argument
and he murdered her with a shotgun to her face.
(33:42):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I got to believe with what just happened too on
Sunday night in Brentwood, California, Rob Reiner and his wife
being stabbed to death by his own son. I mean
that had to really hit home for you, I'd imagine,
well somewhat.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So I posted a video today Rob's words about Charlie
and Erica, and you know, when COVID hit I remember
speaking to my staff and doctors. I mean, we have
a doctor of psychology on our campaign team right now,
(34:21):
and I remember the general consensus is this COVID, this lockdown,
what our government is doing to us, especially the state.
There will be ramifications that people really don't and that's
why I'm so concerned about our youth. That's why I'm
so concerned about the future. Mental health care needs to
(34:44):
be addressed. And we went and talked to I mean,
I'm talking to leaders in the field who actually trained psychologists.
I brought today for you a copy of my A
Trauma Book with but that's what we've got sure called triggered.
We've tried to help protect people who've been affected by trauma,
(35:08):
whether it was PTSD or traumatic brain entry for civilians.
I mean, right now, right now, today, I'm supposed to
be in Korea speaking to the largest US military base
there for the US Army on resiliency, on mental health,
on counter suicide because the suicide rate is so high.
(35:28):
The dd hired me and I've spoken at so many
bases so on the point and to end, we cannot
disqualify people in a stereotype statement of who can and
who can't do certain things. I'm an example to millions
and even people that I mentor, from special operations, community
(35:53):
commanders to the Pentagon to well I started with, are incarcerated.
You can live beyond the label that somebody places on you.
It's God, All things are possible, and just don't ever
give up. My book talks about that, the film on
my life story, and most importantly, the millions of people
(36:15):
we've helped who have been trafficked, who've survived. And I'd
like to close on this. The young lady you had
on recently, Holly. It's someone that we went and rescued
from a pedophile got across into and Ron. I was
(36:37):
sad to hear because to me it was a form
of re victimization. Whether you believe it or not, I
don't think you should have had her on.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Because she came to me. Just to make that clear,
it doesn't justify it. Well, why did you post a
video of her with her face showing This is the
point of contention that Anastasia had with you, right that
maybe that was not in her best interest at that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Once she wanted to be baptized. Her life was on
the uptick. We've got a video that I can play
right now for your listeners. Are you We documented all
of this and when it came time, she asked to
be baptized, and then she wanted everybody to know she
was doing great. This is the pedophile that was sitting
(37:19):
next to her when you were interviewing her. And this
dude some of the guy's name is less leslie Ward.
He's a monster and we had a private investigator.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you have regrets about how that situation all unfolded
and ended? Because she's back there with them now in
British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Right, We're heartbroken. And I'll tell you the one thing
I've told folks, I can rescue just about anybody in
the world, from the forest people, from cartels to isis
confinement centers.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
To get you says like this, why did you feel
compelled though, to bring her across the Canadian word. I
get it when you're going to Iraq and these hostile nations,
but Canada is a civilized country with health services there
have been beneficial to her. Why did you feel Canada
did not have the proper resources to care for her.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That's her dad and that's her before Less, that's her
after Less okay in Anastasia do you know her real name?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I only know where's that?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, we've known her for years and we thank god
she had a heart. She saw what was happening. This
young girl was groomed at age thirteen and then he
got her at sixteen. She was put in a mental
health facility and she wasn't helped and he was waiting
for her when she came back. The day she got out,
(38:40):
he's going to pick her up. That's the day that
we got her. Look at the joe on her faces,
Anastasia and her husband.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So you felt you needed to remove her entirely from
that situation and from that country.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Not only that, not only that, but this is important
to note. When we were at the border, that's the
head of age counter sex trafficking and when he came
into the room because there was a five and a
half hour interviews to get her clear to cross over them,
(39:11):
this guy walks into a room and he goes Victor Marx,
big fan, love you work. He told the other staff,
do you not know who this is? Him and his wife.
They've just restd her life to come up and get
this girl. We got clearance, we got through they gave
her a special visa and he said this his words,
the professional from law enforcement. He says, if she gets
(39:33):
caught or goes back to him, we're scared for her life.
The guys a convicted, and I have the text from Less.
He agrees he was convicted. He raped his former wife's
children and is putting Nova Scotia. Their law system is
messed up in general by far, their health, their mental
(39:55):
health system is messed up. So the best thing we
could do was get her out, and we spent eleven
weeks working with her with levels of intensity, top psychologists,
top psychi, everything to help her. And this is what
I tell folks. I can rescue about anybody, but I
can't save anyone right right. So we sent her back
(40:18):
when she was ready to go to her father. She
lasted two days with her dad towards house up and
the predator, this monster Less was waiting. So you know,
they had posted that they had a baby. We're scared
for the baby. But this case isn't over for us,
never is. I've got cases that we've had decade, fifteen
(40:43):
years later that we still know are there for in help.
So we asked for people's prayers for this. It's super sad,
but and we love Anastasia, thank God for her in
her background, She's come from tough stuff. But we pray
for Holly and we have nothing but love and hope
(41:04):
for her. But that monster, I pray that he gets
what he deserves for doing what he's done to her
and controlling her. When we're off there because they're limbit
for time, I'll play you an audio message he sent her.
You can hear. You can hear just what a monster
he is. So again, this case hit and over for us.
Nor are the ones that we're still on and we'll
(41:25):
be able to do more when I'm governor.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I like how you put that doll. You can rescue anybody,
but you can't save Kenna. There's a very big distinction
and difference there. Victor. Mark's our guest for the full
hour plus some time, so we really appreciate you spending
it with us. Here Victor. Find out more about his
campaign Victor twenty twenty six dot com. The first of
what we hope our many conversations go as the primary
is coming up June thirtieth, a little over six months
(41:48):
from right now. Victor, thank you for your.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I'm glad for our new friendship.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Ron appreciate you. Merry Christmas to you, Toilean, to your
whole family, your whole staff and ensemble in attendance here today.
We'll take this time out, come back next hour. Next
up Tricia Calvareci, the Democrat candidate for the fourth congressional district,
looking for a rematch against Representative Lauren Bobert. Here on
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