Nine years ago today, Led Zeppelin was cleared of copyright infringement by a journey regarding their signature track 'Stairway to Heaven.' Ryan explores the world of songwriting and what constitutes such a violation in the creative arena.
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-4) has worked tirelessly to help pass the Trump agenda in the form of a 'Big, Beautiful Bill' despite resistance from some within the Republican party - including Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) - and holdouts from larger states like New York and California on SALT (State and Local Tax) deductions.
Lauren joins Ryan to detail how she hopes to help hold a fragile coalition together as the bill awaits changes and passage in the Senate, as well as offer her thoughts on President Trump's military strikes targeting nuclear facilities in Iran and the resulting tenuous ceasefire currently in place between the Islamic regime and Israel.
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-4) has worked tirelessly to help pass the Trump agenda in the form of a 'Big, Beautiful Bill' despite resistance from some within the Republican party - including Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) - and holdouts from larger states like New York and California on SALT (State and Local Tax) deductions.
Lauren joins Ryan to detail how she hopes to help hold a fragile coalition together as the bill awaits changes and passage in the Senate, as well as offer her thoughts on President Trump's military strikes targeting nuclear facilities in Iran and the resulting tenuous ceasefire currently in place between the Islamic regime and Israel.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot Takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with the fake
news media, and you know.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The fake news like CNN in particular. They're trying to
you know, they're trying to say, well, I agree that
it was destroyed, but maybe not that destroyed.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know what they're doing. They're really hurting great.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Pilots that put their lives in the line. CNN has scum,
and so is MSDNC. They're all and frankly, the networks
aren't much better.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's all fake news.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But they should not have done that by those pilots
hit their targets. Those targets were obliterated, and the pilots
should be given credit. Then not after the pilots are
after me, they want to try and do meet on
a suping or progral Iran will never rebuild it from there,
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That place is under rock. That place is demolished. The
feat two pilots hit their job.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They
hit late in the evening, who was dark with no moon,
and they hit that target with every one of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And that place is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But when I see CNN all night longer trying to say, well,
maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought there
was demolished. That you take a look at the pinpricks
and you see that place is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And I will say, I think CNN or.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
To apologize to the pilots of the v twos, I.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Think that MSD and c or to apologize. I think
these guys really, these.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Networks are these cable networks.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Are real losers.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You really are, You're realizy, your gutless losers. I say
that the CNN because I watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I have no choice. I gotta watch that garbage.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's all garbage, it's all fakeds.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But I think CNN is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
A gutless group of people and the people that run it.
Nobody even knows. There's been sold so many times, but
the people.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That run it over to be ashamed.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
MSDC. Here a guy named Brian Robberts, he heads it.
He's a disgrace, He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, President Trump holding absolutely nothing back today. In vintage form,
I would say, as he was preparing to board Marine
one and then head over to the Netherlands for a
NATO summit, and he was looking forward to that time off,
he said in a truth social post about just taking
a heartbeat away from the Israel Iran conflict and a
(02:22):
ceasefire that at least at this hour, appears to be
holding after both parties violated it, including Israel, and that
caused the President drop an f bomb on live television
and c SPAN. That was definitely enlightening for all those watching,
even the little ones. But now it's happening in real time.
What President Trump is alluding to there with MSDNC and
(02:44):
CNN and their coverage of the Iran strikes is happening
right now. I'm watching it on either screen. It's like
dueling banjos here and on CNN it says that the
House and Senate classified briefings in Iran have been postponed.
Will to Representative Louren Bolbert about that coming up at
the bottom of the hour, so stick and stay for that. However,
(03:06):
early sources, again in quotes scare quotes to CNN, say
that the Defense Intel Agency assesses the US strikes did
not destroy Iron's nuclear program, in fact, only set it
back by a few months.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
However, the slug on Fox News is saying that the
White House is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Completely refuting that alleged report about the strikes not achieving
their intent, and Donald Trump, the President, saying in that
clip that you heard that this is really undermining the
pilots and the job that they did and the lives
that they put on the line their own, and that
(03:45):
they came away and they should be treated as heroes,
but that CNN is a bunch of losers. Now whether
or not these strikes were successful, again, we are evaluating
this in real time, but I think there's still a
lot that we don't know. But who are these sources
leaking the Defense, the Defense and Intel Agency about the
(04:07):
strikes not having their intended effect, and do they have
an axe to grind with Trump himself?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Represent A Lauren Bolbert, no doubt knows more than I do.
So we'll be talking to her coming up at the
bottom of the hour, also about the Big Beautiful Bill
and her counterpart, and I would say that she's on
friendly terms with the Representative Thomas Massey, who is a
dedicated opposition as it stands right now to the Big
Beautiful Bill passing in its current form. We'll wait and
see what happens in the Senate amendments, adjustments, changes to it,
(04:36):
and then they'll float it back over to the House.
We've been told that this should earn passage by Independence Day,
which is on a Friday this year, that they'll stay
in session until that gets done, that they'll get it
to President Trump's desk for signage in time for our
two hundred and forty ninth celebration of our country. Let's
go to some texts. Five seven, seven thirty nine. Eric,
(05:00):
you great American. You're a great American. Your new nickname
is Operation Midnight Hammer, says Eric for me, because the
way you just blew up AOC and the Democrat Party
boom figuratively and maybe with words perhaps, but it wasn't me.
That was President Trump in a true social post. And
(05:21):
there is some dispute as to who he was referring
to with one of these nicknames, and I'll get to
that in a moment. This Texas says, after the latest
with Iran, Sean Ferris should do a Trump War of
the World's broadcast and would fool a lot of people.
There was a lot that came out of that original
War of the World's broadcast back in the thirties because
people listening intently on the radios that they couldn't discern
parody from the real news, and that was like our
(05:43):
first edition of fake news.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Back then, a lot of people were.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Freaking out that there was going to be some kind
of intergalactic alien invasion and war of the worlds. So
there were some FCC guidelines that came out in the
wake of that. For instance, on our air live, when
something is a pair that needs to be treated as such,
and that I cannot deliver it as if it were
real news in a way that might put the listener
(06:08):
at jeopardy. For instance, with the tornado warnings that were
out there, I can't fake that and say that they're
happening when they're not, or that they're not happening when
they are. And there's a real kind of a sticky
wicket that one can get into there that you have
to always be aware of in real time. This one says,
always keep him guessing. Well done, Steven Lyttleton, retired law
(06:30):
enforcement officer. And then this one, it's actually AOC that's
the mouse, And please enough with your imitations. Ryan, that's
a downer, that's just a down and you know what,
you can't please everybody. He can't please all the people
all the time. Can't even please all the people some
of the time. And it's you know, it's always gonna
(06:51):
be a mixed bag. They can't all be winners to
the text are out there, and I just to invite
you to, you know, spend me some befit of the
doubt status five seven seventy three nine.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You can reach out via text as well. This one
just came in.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The media always says that Trump's lying, and I'm not
here to argue that he doesn't embellish things sometimes, but
ninety percent of the time, a couple of weeks, a
few name zays, a month later, the truth comes out
that Trump was right.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Trump was right about a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They spied on my campaign, Leslie, they spied on my campaign.
They did, they did Russia, Colusiah, was it a hoax? Yes,
it was a hoax. You know Christopher Steele and the
Steele dossier that was furnished the Hillary Clinton campaign, that
was bought and paid for, that was presented as evidence
for PISA warrant to James Comy Crooked. Director of the FBI,
Brian McCabe lied under oath. I mean, there's a lot
(07:41):
of crooked characters in our three letter agencies.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Doctor Fauci, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I did another impersonation and IH across the board, and
our eyes have been wideened and opened. I think in
our sphere about who we trust, who we believe?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Why? Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And I agree with this Texter Donald Trump, he doesn't bellus.
He's bombastic, he overstates things, but by and large, one,
his heart's.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
In the right place.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We know that to his policies work, that's even more important.
And three, it bears out over time that he's proven.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right time and again. How about CBS.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Doctoring their footage of Kamala Harris And they're going to
court about that because they made her look better in
the interview than she deserved to look. It was not
an authentic, honest portrayal of her answer to a particular question.
They're looking to prop up Kamala Harris. They're looking to
cover up Joe Biden with the deep fakes, that whole narrative,
that was another fake news narrative that was out there.
(08:42):
The deep fakes, they weren't deep fakes. We watched them
happen with our own eyes. Now Chuck Todd's out there saying, were.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We mislet all along?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Was Joe Biden up the real family man we've been
told all these years? No, he's not. He's a corrupt,
craven individual, a sad, bitter shell of a former self,
an old man that he is.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think some of your impressions are hilarious. Thanks for
making me laugh. Okay, well, you know, like I said,
they're hitt and miss What am I going to do?
Five seven seven three nine? I want to spend a
portion of this segment. I was going back and forth
with my dad. You know, I always enjoy having these
conversations about music with him, and he lived in I mean,
this is a guy that saw Jimmy Hendricks perform live twice,
(09:25):
saw Eric Clapton with Cream live. The amount of envy
and fomo that I have and having derivative stories from
my father about these once in a lifetime experience is
a second to none. Now, I did see Page and Plant,
and I did meet Robert Plant at a place that
no longer exists called the Rhythm Kitchen. And this was
(09:48):
in Grand Rapids, Michigan, one mid morning, and it was
on this date nine years ago. Shannon might remember this.
Led Zeppelin was under fire their iconic song and perhaps
best known track, Stairway to Heaven.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They went to chord over it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Seventy nine million dollar lawsuit alleging that they stole it.
They stole the intro, they stole the progression that's famous.
The Jimmy Page borrowed the sound from a song called
Taurus that was released in nineteen sixty eight by the
group Spirit. And here is that report from nine years
(10:31):
ago today Fox eleven, Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
In the meantime, Led Zeppelin climbed the Stairway to Heaven
without stealing any music.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah so, said a federal grand jury.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
It has rejected a lawsuit filed by the nab defunct
band Spirit.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
S rt Adam G has.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Been following this story from the very beginning. She's outside
the downtown LA courthouse again with the latest Serene Yeah Hi, Bob.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Jury met for about five hours. In the end they
decided at the intro to one of the biggest rock
songs of all time wasn't stolen.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I was rooting for them every day, and I was
glad that I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't have to leave.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Disappointed.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Blood Zeppelin fans were relieved a jury found Jimmy Page
and Robert Plant didn't steal the intro to their most
iconic song, Stairway to Heaven from Spirit song Taurus. Not
everyone celebrated. The sister of the late Randy California, the
man who wrote Taurus, held up her brother's photo.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
We are grateful that now more people will be interested
in who he was and his beautiful music that was
way ahead of its time.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He was a musician's musician.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She says, money and the law at the time prevented
Randy from suing when he was alive.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Over the years, it caused our brother heartache. He was
never able to do anything about a lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Nearly two decades after Randy's death, Michael Skidmore, the representative
for Randy's trust, filed a lawsuit. Skidmore's lawyer says it
was an obstacle to not be allowed to play the
original Tourus song in court only the sheet music for
the song was copyrighted.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, we're working in this alternate reality where the
song that Jimmy Page.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
And Robert Plant had access to, the jurors never got
to hear the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Page and Plant denied allegations they had heard Taurus before
writing their song. In a statement, they said, we are
grateful for the jury's conscientious service and please that it
has ruled in our favor, putting to rest questions about
the origins of Stairway to Heaven and confirming what we've
known for forty five years. Music copyright expert Stephen Weinberg
says the verdict could influence others thinking about launching copyright lawsuits.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Well, I think it means that there's a certain universe
of musical material that's a building block for other artists,
and I think that's nothing but good for the music
business and songwriters in general.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Now, in this instance, I'm such a big fan, as
you guys know, of music and the history of music.
I think the default position has to be that unless
you can really prove it, unless it's like this.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Let's kick it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Ice Baby, nineteen ninety Vanilla Ice, and that sounds a
hell of a lot like this. Now here's his explanation
(13:39):
for I think this was from a behind the music
on VH one Vanilla Ice, Rob van Winkle.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's totally different. It's webs on.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It doesn't sound anything like that.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
And just to prove his point, Vanilla breaks it down
and sings the dings king ding.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Ding ding ding ring ding ding ding ding ring ding ding.
That's the way. There's ghosts ours those ding ding ding
digi ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
That little bitty changed, it's not the same ours, those ding.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Ding ding digi ding ding.
Speaker 10 (14:09):
There's ghosts ours, those.
Speaker 11 (14:18):
Little bitty changed. It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It is the same. It wasn't just a little bitty change.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Queen settled up with Vanilla Ice and I think they
all made nice afterwards. It doesn't always turn out that way.
You can look at the manager for the Rolling Stones
with the verve and put that poor guy through hell
over bittersweet symphony over the years. But the final verdict here,
I'm going to leave to Shannon and you out there.
This was the original song that many claimed both Spirit
(14:45):
by Taurus and Steway to Heaven by led Zeppelin was
based on called Summer Rain by Johnny Rivers, released November
nineteen sixty seven. Listen closely, now what you're hearing. There
(15:11):
is a progression on arpeggio. These are based on scales
that even Halen was famous for these, and of course
Jimmy Page used these in the structure of music, and
so many things to be changed to varying degrees. Here
is you may never have heard it before January nineteen
sixty eight. So a few months later, after what you
just heard, some are Ranged by Johnny Rivers comes uh
Taurus by the group Spirit, and the jury decided that
(16:02):
it was not enough similarity between that and this.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Shannon, what say you, boy? It sure is close.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But if I were sitting on a jury, I'd have
to say that it was dissimilar enough to not file.
Randy California. Let me this poor guy. He was a
great creator, and he died saving his son from a
rip current. He drowned, but he saved his son's life.
And the courts they ruled in led Zeppelin's favors, so
they didn't have to worry about this.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
Careful hey, no stairway, good Night.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
From Wayne's World nineteen ninety two. This made its way
all the way up through the appeals courts. They threw
out the original verdict, and then the Supreme Court of
the United States steps in and refuses to hear the case,
letting the lower court verdict of the Circle Court level stand,
and led Zeppelin ends up winning on this day nine
years ago. Just a little tidbit there I provided for
(17:28):
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guess he just didn't feel like talking about it today.
Jimmy Page even brought his guitar into the courtroom. Can
you imagine that's the real scene in Los Angeles? You're
a jur like Shannon says, and here's Jimmy Page. I
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Speaker 2 (19:48):
What we have we basically have two countries that have
been fighting so long and.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
President Trump in brass texts terms, and that's how we
I love him best. Outside the White House as he
was preparing to a board Marine one and joining us now,
Representative Lauren Bobert. You can follow her on x by
that very handle at Lauren Bobert. She was just commenting
on the ceasefire between Israel and Iran broker by the
President within the last day or so, and she joined
(20:20):
us here on Ryan Schuling Live. Representative Bolbert, thank you
for your time as always.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Hi, it's so great to be with you, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Absolutely, and I just want to get your thoughts on
the time between the strikes that we heard about on Saturday,
the fact that there were no leaks but a lot
of complaints from the Democrats in Congress where you reside
unfortunately about their not being information shared. And yet the
mission success may have been in large part due to
the fact that President Trump kept this under the vest
(20:49):
and kept his circle small.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
I think President Trump did exactly what he should have done.
President Trump is labeling this as a twelve day war.
This may be the only thing that I disagree with
President Trump on because I believe this is a fifty
year plus war and President Trump brought somewhat of an
end to it within twelve days. He is certainly saying
(21:15):
we have done our part. And President Trump put out
a notice saying within two weeks, folks will know more
of what we're doing. It was a sealth operation since.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
M B two.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Fighter pilots and went in and took out the threat
of the enriched nuclear in Ibran and I think that
that was a wonderful thing that President Trump did by
preventing them from having a nuclear there. This is something
President Trump has been outspoken about for more than a decade.
(21:51):
It's something that every president has said since Bill Clinton
at least, and President Trump has been the only one
to do something about it. Now that nuclear enrichment site
is gone, it is oblivery obliterated and now we are
at a cease fire, and now, of course new word today.
(22:14):
President Trump is not very happy with Israel, who unleashed
a lot of fire firepower on Iran right after the
twelve hour waiting period was announced, and we heard the
very descriptive way that President Trump came out about them,
and that he is not happy with that. But I
(22:36):
still believe that President Trump has done as much as
America can do, and the United States of America has
stood with Israel, will stand with Israel, but we are
not going to have World War three on their behalf.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Representative Lauren Bolbert joining us now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Within the last couple of hours here, Lauren, we've seen
various reports, divergent reports, not surprising one from CNN, one
from Fox News saying that the level of destruction of
the nuclear sites might have been less than we anticipated,
only setting back Iran's nuclear program for a few months.
Department of Defense, Trump Administration White House has come out
(23:15):
and disputed that assessment or whatever the sources are on that,
and we're receiving word that Intel updates provided the members
of Congress both the House and the Senate have been
paused on Iran for the time being.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
What's the latest as you know it, as you see it,
the latest is I.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
Know it is what President Trump has said. I believe
that we have done exactly what we said that we
would do, and we have the best military to execute
the mission that was executed in Iran. President Trump and
Secretary Peak Seth have worked tightly together in this to
(23:56):
ensure that Iran can not to have nuclear power a
nuclear warhead, and with the amount of enriched nuclear that
they had, they were very close to doing so. And
you know, if it's CNN and the Democrats and others
want to say that they're only a few months away
(24:19):
from rebuilding, while President Trump is going to ensure that
they cannot have nuclear powers. Uh So we are at
a place now where I believe that just as President said,
President Trump said that this this threat is now gone,
and Israel and I ran need to come to a
(24:41):
point of an agreement and decide to have peace within
the Middle East. This is something that Republicans want. This
is something that has been longed for for decades along
party lines or throughout the party lines, I should say,
and we do not want to be involved in forever
foreign wards.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So this is the.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
Time for peace. President Trump expresses frustrations with ongoing missiles
that were launched, and I don't think that we will
see much more of that after President Trump has emphatically
stated his position, because either way, Israel needs us if
(25:22):
they want to continue this, and it doesn't sound like
President Trump and certainly Republicans and Americans don't want this
to continue. So there has to come to There has
to come a point where we come to the table
and actually have this peace agreement, rather than only knowing
that this is the enemy and this is what we do,
(25:43):
and we bomb and we fight, and we have strife
and contention. It sounds a little bit like the Republican
Party in Colorado. If we're going to get down to it,
it's like all we know is defeat. So that's what
we're going to continue to do. But take the victory,
take the peace, and move forward.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Congresswoman Lauren Bobert representing Colorado's fourth congressional district, Your colleagues
on the other side of the isle, Lauren, we know
that they're desperate and they're flailing, and there was apparently
an impeachment vote, and we saw l Green bring in
and we've heard Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries talk about that
these attacks by Donald Trump on around were unconstitutional, and
then Representative Jasmine Crockett Star that she is Democrat Texas, said.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
This, and to understand enough about the Constitution to the
extent that I'm the one that's supposed to make a
decision or at least get a vote.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm the one who's supposed to make the effing decision
or at least get a vote. Well, I don't want
her making those decisions. That's what we elected President Trump for.
And a couple of things Congresswoman Bobert, and that is
the last time Congress had a formal declaration of war
was eighty three years ago in the wake of World
War Two. Vietnam technically wasn't a war authorized by Congress.
(26:54):
Neither was the Korean War, Operation Desert Storm, the War
on Terror, the War on Iraq, none of those. And
plenty of presidents Democrats and Republicans have authorized attacks as
commander in chief. We may not agree with them, let's say,
by Barack Obama or Bill Clinton and Kosovo, but they
were done and it was within the constitution. What is
this argument from the Democrats about Donald Trump violating the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Here, here's the deal. First of all, Jasmine krock of,
I hope they'd let her keep talking because the more
she talks, the more people understand that Republicans just want
sound policy, they want America first decisions. And also, she
(27:38):
was not here under Barack Obama when Democrats allowed him
to drop thousands of bombs all over the place. You know,
there wasn't anybody who ever criticized him for the work
that he did without congressional approval. And now they're saying
that this is a violation. So I guess maybe they
knew it then, but we're going to give it a
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path or whatever the excuse may be. Even Chris Cuomo
has said, Democrats, where were you then? I'm one of you,
And where were you then? You didn't criticize Barack Obama?
But now you're going to criticize President Trump for his involvement.
And what President Trump did is is more effective than
anything we have seen by any other American president throughout
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this time period. President Trump went in without a single
American casualty, went in and destroyed a nuclear facility, and
I ran because he said they cannot have these nuclear
war powers. And that's exactly what he accomplished, and he
brought our troops home safely. Now there has been strife
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in the Middle East and we're trying to find an.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
End to that.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
Like I said, this isn't a twelve day war. This
is twelve days to end decades long of war that's
been taking place in the Middle East. President Trump is
a man of peace and you have to show strength
to get to that peace. We've been saying that it's
not a broken campaign promise, as even some of my
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colleagues on the Republican side would would say that this
is broken campaign. He promised no new wars. This isn't
a new war. He's ending something that has been going
on for decades, and he is bringing peace through strength,
just as he promised on the campaign, peace through strength.
He exercised the strength that we have through the most
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powerful military force in the world, our US military, and
now he is looking for peace. So the Democrats who
want to impeach him and say, well you got to
freaking go through me or whatever she's going to say,
you know, they are just beside themselves because they cannot
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win on policy. They know moms and dads don't want
to mutilate their children, that we don't want want men
and women's sports, and we want a strong economy and
lower inflation and strong border, secure borders and to support illegals.
And so this is their new shiny object to point
out such a well.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Good way to put that. Representative Lauren Bobert joining us.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
One final issue topic that I'd like you to address,
and you kind of let us into it here, Lauren.
That is, we've seen commentators, especially those that are very online,
that are ostensibly on our side of the political spectrum,
but are very much opposed to the action that President
Trump took in around talking about Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens,
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even like you said, some of your colleagues, Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green and Thomas Massey, who I know you're close
with personally, and I like him.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
I like some of those not all of those games.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
But yes, well now I'm talking about Massey in particular.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know he was against this. He's principled. I respect that.
But on the big beautiful bill as well, it is
going to address a lot of what you're talking about,
the border security part of it, also addressing our economy,
the needs of that There are a lot of loose
ends to tie together. I don't envy Speaker Johnson. I
know you don't as well trying to herd cats and
get everybody to pull in the same direction. But here's
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what Representative mass He said about the Big Beautiful Bill
once it comes back to the House after amendments are
made by the Senate. But Randon did say that if
it came down to it, he was the deciding vote,
he would vote in favor of it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Would you do that for the Big Beautiful Bill? Would
you do the same thing?
Speaker 8 (31:25):
No, No, I won't, And in fact, I would love
to have that opportunity, because you know what happens.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
If we take down the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
We write a better for better, more beautiful bill that
doesn't have the warts and canker sores that this bill has,
one that doesn't bankrupt the country Lake negotiations.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Trump knows this.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Negotiations don't start and tell one side says no.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Representative overt Dandy Don Meredith on Monday Night Football once said,
if ifs and butts were candies and nuts, we'd all
have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
You've got Massy on this side.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I get his point, but then on the other side,
you've got the representatives Republicans from California New York that
want the salt state and local tax deductions included in
the bill.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I don't know how you thread this needle.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
By going in one direction or the other you were
able to pass this out of the House. Is representative
Massy being unrealistic in terms of what is actually possible
right now in a narrowly divided House.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
So that's a tough straight yes or no answer, because
Thomas Matthey isn't wrong on a lot of his position
by any means, and many of us, including myself, even
held our nose to vote for the initial passing of
the big beautiful bill out of the House. There are
many great things, and Ryan, I believe that you have
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a very diverse audience that listen to your show, and
so I want to get both sides of this correct.
First of all, we are not going in and just
taking Medicaid and Medicare from everyone who actually needs it.
We want to go in and have strategic Grade four
where you're taking able bodied adults out of the system,
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and we're working on the negotiations of the time. The
timeframe for that now with the Senate to see what
that actually looks like. There is a big money laundering
scheme where a state puts in one dollar and the
federal government puts in a dollar thirty three for all
of the folks who are actually eligible for medicaid. But
then when you get illegal aliens and able bodied adults
(33:29):
included in that system. Well, now, when the state puts
in a dollar for those able bodied adults and illegal aliens,
the federal government it's coming in. I'm putting nine dollars
for those same people. So it's a huge money laundering
scheme that we've got to get right. That's something that
we are working on currently with the Senate to strengthen this.
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We want a secure border, We want to unleash American energy.
We want to defund the green news scam. We want
no tax on tips and no tax on over time,
and there's even some provisions there for suppressors to remove
those from the National Firearms Act, and so much more.
We want to end snap eligibility for illegal aliens. And
(34:12):
so there's a lot of great things in here, but
I get Thomas Matthew's position on basically what could be
described as an omnibus bill, a big bill that can
include so many things. But this is not a budget bill.
This is a budget reconciliation. It's our only opportunity to
avoid this filibuster and actually get policy wins and financial
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and fiscal wins in this term with our slim majorities.
So there is some give and take. But as the
bill sits in committee in the Senate, I'm a no.
I am a no on this bill the way the
Senate is revising what the House is sent over, and
so we've got to ensure that we are getting this
language right. When it comes to Inflation Reduction Act subsidies
(34:58):
for green energy, which is very unreliable and really just
messes up the market dramatically, and we could spend an
entire segment on that. I won't today, but we've got
to make sure that's right. We have to make sure
illegals are not eligible for snap benefits for Medicaid. We
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want to have no tax on Medicare for the majority
of our seniors, and no tax and overtime, no text
etips to all these things. And so we've got to
keep the pressure on the Senate to send us a
good bill back. But I mean as of today, I'm
a no if the Senate sends us what they are
currently working on in committees without correcting this. So Thomas
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Matthew is not wrong. But also there is a ground
where we say, this is our opportunity to actually pass
something meaningful that will secure our border and unleash American
energy and do things for our economy and the working
class in America. So is the bill perfect?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
No?
Speaker 10 (36:00):
Is it big? Absolutely? Is it beautiful? It could be.
And so we're currently putting pressure on the Senate to
make sure that we at least get what we sent
over from the House and maybe even a little bit
more the salt deductions. Again, we could spend another segment
on that alone. But what New York and California are
(36:22):
demanding for salt cap is absolutely insane. And Ryan, we
are a sault state. We have those state and local
taxes that are subsidized by the federal government. And still
I don't think it's right for folks in Kentucky and
Florida and other states that don't have day taxes to
pay in to subsidize for bad Democrat polity policies that
(36:44):
are taxing their people out of affordable living scenarios.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Follow her on exit, Lauren Bolbert so thankful for a time.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Thank you, Lauren. We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We're back to wrap it all up on Ryan Schuling
Live after this, Yes, it comes full circle on today's program.
We're fortunate to still have Jimmy Page with us, but
we lose Mick Ralphs, the founding member and guitarist for
Bad Company, who you just heard right there, and I'll
(37:17):
have some tribute music to him and Bad Company coming
up on the Dan Kampliss Show. Our thanks to representative
Lauren Bobert for joining us. I'll be filling in for
Ross Kaminsky tomorrow, so if you missed that conversation you
can catch it then as well. And this final text, Ryan,
no tax on tips is crazy and unfair.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
That is income.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I do agree, but it's a more nuanced conversation and
I'll continue it tomorrow right here with you on Ryan
Shirling Live
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot Takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with the fake
news media, and you know.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The fake news like CNN in particular. They're trying to
you know, they're trying to say, well, I agree that
it was destroyed, but maybe not that destroyed.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know what they're doing. They're really hurting great.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Pilots that put their lives in the line. CNN has scum,
and so is MSDNC. They're all and frankly, the networks
aren't much better.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's all fake news.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But they should not have done that by those pilots
hit their targets. Those targets were obliterated, and the pilots
should be given credit. Then not after the pilots are
after me, they want to try and do meet on
a suping or progral Iran will never rebuild it from there,
absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That place is under rock. That place is demolished. The
feat two pilots hit their job.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They
hit late in the evening, who was dark with no moon,
and they hit that target with every one of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And that place is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But when I see CNN all night longer trying to say, well,
maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought there
was demolished. That you take a look at the pinpricks
and you see that place is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And I will say, I think CNN or.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
To apologize to the pilots of the v twos, I.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Think that MSD and c or to apologize. I think
these guys really, these.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Networks are these cable networks.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Are real losers.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You really are, You're realizy, your gutless losers. I say
that the CNN because I watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I have no choice. I gotta watch that garbage.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's all garbage, it's all fakeds.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But I think CNN is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
A gutless group of people and the people that run it.
Nobody even knows. There's been sold so many times, but
the people.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That run it over to be ashamed.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
MSDC. Here a guy named Brian Robberts, he heads it.
He's a disgrace, He's a weak, pathetic disgrace.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, President Trump holding absolutely nothing back today. In vintage form,
I would say, as he was preparing to board Marine
one and then head over to the Netherlands for a
NATO summit, and he was looking forward to that time off,
he said in a truth social post about just taking
a heartbeat away from the Israel Iran conflict and a
(02:22):
ceasefire that at least at this hour, appears to be
holding after both parties violated it, including Israel, and that
caused the President drop an f bomb on live television
and c SPAN. That was definitely enlightening for all those watching,
even the little ones. But now it's happening in real time.
What President Trump is alluding to there with MSDNC and
(02:44):
CNN and their coverage of the Iran strikes is happening
right now. I'm watching it on either screen. It's like
dueling banjos here and on CNN it says that the
House and Senate classified briefings in Iran have been postponed.
Will to Representative Louren Bolbert about that coming up at
the bottom of the hour, so stick and stay for that. However,
(03:06):
early sources, again in quotes scare quotes to CNN, say
that the Defense Intel Agency assesses the US strikes did
not destroy Iron's nuclear program, in fact, only set it
back by a few months.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
However, the slug on Fox News is saying that the
White House is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Completely refuting that alleged report about the strikes not achieving
their intent, and Donald Trump, the President, saying in that
clip that you heard that this is really undermining the
pilots and the job that they did and the lives
that they put on the line their own, and that
(03:45):
they came away and they should be treated as heroes,
but that CNN is a bunch of losers. Now whether
or not these strikes were successful, again, we are evaluating
this in real time, but I think there's still a
lot that we don't know. But who are these sources
leaking the Defense, the Defense and Intel Agency about the
(04:07):
strikes not having their intended effect, and do they have
an axe to grind with Trump himself?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Represent A Lauren Bolbert, no doubt knows more than I do.
So we'll be talking to her coming up at the
bottom of the hour, also about the Big Beautiful Bill
and her counterpart, and I would say that she's on
friendly terms with the Representative Thomas Massey, who is a
dedicated opposition as it stands right now to the Big
Beautiful Bill passing in its current form. We'll wait and
see what happens in the Senate amendments, adjustments, changes to it,
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and then they'll float it back over to the House.
We've been told that this should earn passage by Independence Day,
which is on a Friday this year, that they'll stay
in session until that gets done, that they'll get it
to President Trump's desk for signage in time for our
two hundred and forty ninth celebration of our country. Let's
go to some texts. Five seven, seven thirty nine. Eric,
(05:00):
you great American. You're a great American. Your new nickname
is Operation Midnight Hammer, says Eric for me, because the
way you just blew up AOC and the Democrat Party
boom figuratively and maybe with words perhaps, but it wasn't me.
That was President Trump in a true social post. And
(05:21):
there is some dispute as to who he was referring
to with one of these nicknames, and I'll get to
that in a moment. This Texas says, after the latest
with Iran, Sean Ferris should do a Trump War of
the World's broadcast and would fool a lot of people.
There was a lot that came out of that original
War of the World's broadcast back in the thirties because
people listening intently on the radios that they couldn't discern
parody from the real news, and that was like our
(05:43):
first edition of fake news.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Back then, a lot of people were.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Freaking out that there was going to be some kind
of intergalactic alien invasion and war of the worlds. So
there were some FCC guidelines that came out in the
wake of that. For instance, on our air live, when
something is a pair that needs to be treated as such,
and that I cannot deliver it as if it were
real news in a way that might put the listener
(06:08):
at jeopardy. For instance, with the tornado warnings that were
out there, I can't fake that and say that they're
happening when they're not, or that they're not happening when
they are. And there's a real kind of a sticky
wicket that one can get into there that you have
to always be aware of in real time. This one says,
always keep him guessing. Well done, Steven Lyttleton, retired law
(06:30):
enforcement officer. And then this one, it's actually AOC that's
the mouse, And please enough with your imitations. Ryan, that's
a downer, that's just a down and you know what,
you can't please everybody. He can't please all the people
all the time. Can't even please all the people some
of the time. And it's you know, it's always gonna
(06:51):
be a mixed bag. They can't all be winners to
the text are out there, and I just to invite
you to, you know, spend me some befit of the
doubt status five seven seventy three nine.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You can reach out via text as well. This one
just came in.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The media always says that Trump's lying, and I'm not
here to argue that he doesn't embellish things sometimes, but
ninety percent of the time, a couple of weeks, a
few name zays, a month later, the truth comes out
that Trump was right.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Trump was right about a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They spied on my campaign, Leslie, they spied on my campaign.
They did, they did Russia, Colusiah, was it a hoax? Yes,
it was a hoax. You know Christopher Steele and the
Steele dossier that was furnished the Hillary Clinton campaign, that
was bought and paid for, that was presented as evidence
for PISA warrant to James Comy Crooked. Director of the FBI,
Brian McCabe lied under oath. I mean, there's a lot
(07:41):
of crooked characters in our three letter agencies.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Doctor Fauci, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I did another impersonation and IH across the board, and
our eyes have been wideened and opened. I think in
our sphere about who we trust, who we believe?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Why? Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And I agree with this Texter Donald Trump, he doesn't bellus.
He's bombastic, he overstates things, but by and large, one,
his heart's.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
In the right place.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We know that to his policies work, that's even more important.
And three, it bears out over time that he's proven.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right time and again. How about CBS.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Doctoring their footage of Kamala Harris And they're going to
court about that because they made her look better in
the interview than she deserved to look. It was not
an authentic, honest portrayal of her answer to a particular question.
They're looking to prop up Kamala Harris. They're looking to
cover up Joe Biden with the deep fakes, that whole narrative,
that was another fake news narrative that was out there.
(08:42):
The deep fakes, they weren't deep fakes. We watched them
happen with our own eyes. Now Chuck Todd's out there saying, were.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We mislet all along?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Was Joe Biden up the real family man we've been
told all these years? No, he's not. He's a corrupt,
craven individual, a sad, bitter shell of a former self,
an old man that he is.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think some of your impressions are hilarious. Thanks for
making me laugh. Okay, well, you know, like I said,
they're hitt and miss What am I going to do?
Five seven seven three nine? I want to spend a
portion of this segment. I was going back and forth
with my dad. You know, I always enjoy having these
conversations about music with him, and he lived in I mean,
this is a guy that saw Jimmy Hendricks perform live twice,
(09:25):
saw Eric Clapton with Cream live. The amount of envy
and fomo that I have and having derivative stories from
my father about these once in a lifetime experience is
a second to none. Now, I did see Page and Plant,
and I did meet Robert Plant at a place that
no longer exists called the Rhythm Kitchen. And this was
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in Grand Rapids, Michigan, one mid morning, and it was
on this date nine years ago. Shannon might remember this.
Led Zeppelin was under fire their iconic song and perhaps
best known track, Stairway to Heaven.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They went to chord over it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Seventy nine million dollar lawsuit alleging that they stole it.
They stole the intro, they stole the progression that's famous.
The Jimmy Page borrowed the sound from a song called
Taurus that was released in nineteen sixty eight by the
group Spirit. And here is that report from nine years
(10:31):
ago today Fox eleven, Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
In the meantime, Led Zeppelin climbed the Stairway to Heaven
without stealing any music.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah so, said a federal grand jury.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
It has rejected a lawsuit filed by the nab defunct
band Spirit.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
S rt Adam G has.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Been following this story from the very beginning. She's outside
the downtown LA courthouse again with the latest Serene Yeah Hi, Bob.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Jury met for about five hours. In the end they
decided at the intro to one of the biggest rock
songs of all time wasn't stolen.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I was rooting for them every day, and I was
glad that I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't have to leave.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Disappointed.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Blood Zeppelin fans were relieved a jury found Jimmy Page
and Robert Plant didn't steal the intro to their most
iconic song, Stairway to Heaven from Spirit song Taurus. Not
everyone celebrated. The sister of the late Randy California, the
man who wrote Taurus, held up her brother's photo.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
We are grateful that now more people will be interested
in who he was and his beautiful music that was
way ahead of its time.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He was a musician's musician.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
She says, money and the law at the time prevented
Randy from suing when he was alive.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Over the years, it caused our brother heartache. He was
never able to do anything about a lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Nearly two decades after Randy's death, Michael Skidmore, the representative
for Randy's trust, filed a lawsuit. Skidmore's lawyer says it
was an obstacle to not be allowed to play the
original Tourus song in court only the sheet music for
the song was copyrighted.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, we're working in this alternate reality where the
song that Jimmy Page.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
And Robert Plant had access to, the jurors never got
to hear the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Page and Plant denied allegations they had heard Taurus before
writing their song. In a statement, they said, we are
grateful for the jury's conscientious service and please that it
has ruled in our favor, putting to rest questions about
the origins of Stairway to Heaven and confirming what we've
known for forty five years. Music copyright expert Stephen Weinberg
says the verdict could influence others thinking about launching copyright lawsuits.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Well, I think it means that there's a certain universe
of musical material that's a building block for other artists,
and I think that's nothing but good for the music
business and songwriters in general.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Now, in this instance, I'm such a big fan, as
you guys know, of music and the history of music.
I think the default position has to be that unless
you can really prove it, unless it's like this.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Let's kick it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Ice Baby, nineteen ninety Vanilla Ice, and that sounds a
hell of a lot like this. Now here's his explanation
(13:39):
for I think this was from a behind the music
on VH one Vanilla Ice, Rob van Winkle.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's totally different. It's webs on.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It doesn't sound anything like that.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
And just to prove his point, Vanilla breaks it down
and sings the dings king ding.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Ding ding ding ring ding ding ding ding ring ding ding.
That's the way. There's ghosts ours those ding ding ding
digi ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
That little bitty changed, it's not the same ours, those ding.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Ding ding digi ding ding.
Speaker 10 (14:09):
There's ghosts ours, those.
Speaker 11 (14:18):
Little bitty changed. It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It is the same. It wasn't just a little bitty change.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Queen settled up with Vanilla Ice and I think they
all made nice afterwards. It doesn't always turn out that way.
You can look at the manager for the Rolling Stones
with the verve and put that poor guy through hell
over bittersweet symphony over the years. But the final verdict here,
I'm going to leave to Shannon and you out there.
This was the original song that many claimed both Spirit
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by Taurus and Steway to Heaven by led Zeppelin was
based on called Summer Rain by Johnny Rivers, released November
nineteen sixty seven. Listen closely, now what you're hearing. There
(15:11):
is a progression on arpeggio. These are based on scales
that even Halen was famous for these, and of course
Jimmy Page used these in the structure of music, and
so many things to be changed to varying degrees. Here
is you may never have heard it before January nineteen
sixty eight. So a few months later, after what you
just heard, some are Ranged by Johnny Rivers comes uh
Taurus by the group Spirit, and the jury decided that
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it was not enough similarity between that and this.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Shannon, what say you, boy? It sure is close.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But if I were sitting on a jury, I'd have
to say that it was dissimilar enough to not file.
Randy California. Let me this poor guy. He was a
great creator, and he died saving his son from a
rip current. He drowned, but he saved his son's life.
And the courts they ruled in led Zeppelin's favors, so
they didn't have to worry about this.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
Careful hey, no stairway, good Night.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
From Wayne's World nineteen ninety two. This made its way
all the way up through the appeals courts. They threw
out the original verdict, and then the Supreme Court of
the United States steps in and refuses to hear the case,
letting the lower court verdict of the Circle Court level stand,
and led Zeppelin ends up winning on this day nine
years ago. Just a little tidbit there I provided for
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my father, one of him to join us, but I
guess he just didn't feel like talking about it today.
Jimmy Page even brought his guitar into the courtroom. Can
you imagine that's the real scene in Los Angeles? You're
a jur like Shannon says, and here's Jimmy Page. I
brought my guitar and starts playing Stairway to Heaven, Stairway
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Speaker 2 (19:48):
What we have we basically have two countries that have
been fighting so long and.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
President Trump in brass texts terms, and that's how we
I love him best. Outside the White House as he
was preparing to a board Marine one and joining us now,
Representative Lauren Bobert. You can follow her on x by
that very handle at Lauren Bobert. She was just commenting
on the ceasefire between Israel and Iran broker by the
President within the last day or so, and she joined
(20:20):
us here on Ryan Schuling Live. Representative Bolbert, thank you
for your time as always.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Hi, it's so great to be with you, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Absolutely, and I just want to get your thoughts on
the time between the strikes that we heard about on Saturday,
the fact that there were no leaks but a lot
of complaints from the Democrats in Congress where you reside
unfortunately about their not being information shared. And yet the
mission success may have been in large part due to
the fact that President Trump kept this under the vest
(20:49):
and kept his circle small.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
I think President Trump did exactly what he should have done.
President Trump is labeling this as a twelve day war.
This may be the only thing that I disagree with
President Trump on because I believe this is a fifty
year plus war and President Trump brought somewhat of an
end to it within twelve days. He is certainly saying
(21:15):
we have done our part. And President Trump put out
a notice saying within two weeks, folks will know more
of what we're doing. It was a sealth operation since.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
M B two.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Fighter pilots and went in and took out the threat
of the enriched nuclear in Ibran and I think that
that was a wonderful thing that President Trump did by
preventing them from having a nuclear there. This is something
President Trump has been outspoken about for more than a decade.
(21:51):
It's something that every president has said since Bill Clinton
at least, and President Trump has been the only one
to do something about it. Now that nuclear enrichment site
is gone, it is oblivery obliterated and now we are
at a cease fire, and now, of course new word today.
(22:14):
President Trump is not very happy with Israel, who unleashed
a lot of fire firepower on Iran right after the
twelve hour waiting period was announced, and we heard the
very descriptive way that President Trump came out about them,
and that he is not happy with that. But I
(22:36):
still believe that President Trump has done as much as
America can do, and the United States of America has
stood with Israel, will stand with Israel, but we are
not going to have World War three on their behalf.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Representative Lauren Bolbert joining us now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Within the last couple of hours here, Lauren, we've seen
various reports, divergent reports, not surprising one from CNN, one
from Fox News saying that the level of destruction of
the nuclear sites might have been less than we anticipated,
only setting back Iran's nuclear program for a few months.
Department of Defense, Trump Administration White House has come out
(23:15):
and disputed that assessment or whatever the sources are on that,
and we're receiving word that Intel updates provided the members
of Congress both the House and the Senate have been
paused on Iran for the time being.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
What's the latest as you know it, as you see it,
the latest is I.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
Know it is what President Trump has said. I believe
that we have done exactly what we said that we
would do, and we have the best military to execute
the mission that was executed in Iran. President Trump and
Secretary Peak Seth have worked tightly together in this to
(23:56):
ensure that Iran can not to have nuclear power a
nuclear warhead, and with the amount of enriched nuclear that
they had, they were very close to doing so. And
you know, if it's CNN and the Democrats and others
want to say that they're only a few months away
(24:19):
from rebuilding, while President Trump is going to ensure that
they cannot have nuclear powers. Uh So we are at
a place now where I believe that just as President said,
President Trump said that this this threat is now gone,
and Israel and I ran need to come to a
(24:41):
point of an agreement and decide to have peace within
the Middle East. This is something that Republicans want. This
is something that has been longed for for decades along
party lines or throughout the party lines, I should say,
and we do not want to be involved in forever
foreign wards.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So this is the.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
Time for peace. President Trump expresses frustrations with ongoing missiles
that were launched, and I don't think that we will
see much more of that after President Trump has emphatically
stated his position, because either way, Israel needs us if
(25:22):
they want to continue this, and it doesn't sound like
President Trump and certainly Republicans and Americans don't want this
to continue. So there has to come to There has
to come a point where we come to the table
and actually have this peace agreement, rather than only knowing
that this is the enemy and this is what we do,
(25:43):
and we bomb and we fight, and we have strife
and contention. It sounds a little bit like the Republican
Party in Colorado. If we're going to get down to it,
it's like all we know is defeat. So that's what
we're going to continue to do. But take the victory,
take the peace, and move forward.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Congresswoman Lauren Bobert representing Colorado's fourth congressional district, Your colleagues
on the other side of the isle, Lauren, we know
that they're desperate and they're flailing, and there was apparently
an impeachment vote, and we saw l Green bring in
and we've heard Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries talk about that
these attacks by Donald Trump on around were unconstitutional, and
then Representative Jasmine Crockett Star that she is Democrat Texas, said.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
This, and to understand enough about the Constitution to the
extent that I'm the one that's supposed to make a
decision or at least get a vote.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm the one who's supposed to make the effing decision
or at least get a vote. Well, I don't want
her making those decisions. That's what we elected President Trump for.
And a couple of things Congresswoman Bobert, and that is
the last time Congress had a formal declaration of war
was eighty three years ago in the wake of World
War Two. Vietnam technically wasn't a war authorized by Congress.
(26:54):
Neither was the Korean War, Operation Desert Storm, the War
on Terror, the War on Iraq, none of those. And
plenty of presidents Democrats and Republicans have authorized attacks as
commander in chief. We may not agree with them, let's say,
by Barack Obama or Bill Clinton and Kosovo, but they
were done and it was within the constitution. What is
this argument from the Democrats about Donald Trump violating the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Here, here's the deal. First of all, Jasmine krock of,
I hope they'd let her keep talking because the more
she talks, the more people understand that Republicans just want
sound policy, they want America first decisions. And also, she
(27:38):
was not here under Barack Obama when Democrats allowed him
to drop thousands of bombs all over the place. You know,
there wasn't anybody who ever criticized him for the work
that he did without congressional approval. And now they're saying
that this is a violation. So I guess maybe they
knew it then, but we're going to give it a
(28:00):
path or whatever the excuse may be. Even Chris Cuomo
has said, Democrats, where were you then? I'm one of you,
And where were you then? You didn't criticize Barack Obama?
But now you're going to criticize President Trump for his involvement.
And what President Trump did is is more effective than
anything we have seen by any other American president throughout
(28:23):
this time period. President Trump went in without a single
American casualty, went in and destroyed a nuclear facility, and
I ran because he said they cannot have these nuclear
war powers. And that's exactly what he accomplished, and he
brought our troops home safely. Now there has been strife
(28:47):
in the Middle East and we're trying to find an.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
End to that.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
Like I said, this isn't a twelve day war. This
is twelve days to end decades long of war that's
been taking place in the Middle East. President Trump is
a man of peace and you have to show strength
to get to that peace. We've been saying that it's
not a broken campaign promise, as even some of my
(29:11):
colleagues on the Republican side would would say that this
is broken campaign. He promised no new wars. This isn't
a new war. He's ending something that has been going
on for decades, and he is bringing peace through strength,
just as he promised on the campaign, peace through strength.
He exercised the strength that we have through the most
(29:33):
powerful military force in the world, our US military, and
now he is looking for peace. So the Democrats who
want to impeach him and say, well you got to
freaking go through me or whatever she's going to say,
you know, they are just beside themselves because they cannot
(29:54):
win on policy. They know moms and dads don't want
to mutilate their children, that we don't want want men
and women's sports, and we want a strong economy and
lower inflation and strong border, secure borders and to support illegals.
And so this is their new shiny object to point
out such a well.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Good way to put that. Representative Lauren Bobert joining us.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
One final issue topic that I'd like you to address,
and you kind of let us into it here, Lauren.
That is, we've seen commentators, especially those that are very online,
that are ostensibly on our side of the political spectrum,
but are very much opposed to the action that President
Trump took in around talking about Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens,
(30:35):
even like you said, some of your colleagues, Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green and Thomas Massey, who I know you're close
with personally, and I like him.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
I like some of those not all of those games.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
But yes, well now I'm talking about Massey in particular.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know he was against this. He's principled. I respect that.
But on the big beautiful bill as well, it is
going to address a lot of what you're talking about,
the border security part of it, also addressing our economy,
the needs of that There are a lot of loose
ends to tie together. I don't envy Speaker Johnson. I
know you don't as well trying to herd cats and
get everybody to pull in the same direction. But here's
(31:10):
what Representative mass He said about the Big Beautiful Bill
once it comes back to the House after amendments are
made by the Senate. But Randon did say that if
it came down to it, he was the deciding vote,
he would vote in favor of it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Would you do that for the Big Beautiful Bill? Would
you do the same thing?
Speaker 8 (31:25):
No, No, I won't, And in fact, I would love
to have that opportunity, because you know what happens.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
If we take down the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
We write a better for better, more beautiful bill that
doesn't have the warts and canker sores that this bill has,
one that doesn't bankrupt the country Lake negotiations.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Trump knows this.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Negotiations don't start and tell one side says no.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Representative overt Dandy Don Meredith on Monday Night Football once said,
if ifs and butts were candies and nuts, we'd all
have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
You've got Massy on this side.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I get his point, but then on the other side,
you've got the representatives Republicans from California New York that
want the salt state and local tax deductions included in
the bill.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I don't know how you thread this needle.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
By going in one direction or the other you were
able to pass this out of the House. Is representative
Massy being unrealistic in terms of what is actually possible
right now in a narrowly divided House.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
So that's a tough straight yes or no answer, because
Thomas Matthey isn't wrong on a lot of his position
by any means, and many of us, including myself, even
held our nose to vote for the initial passing of
the big beautiful bill out of the House. There are
many great things, and Ryan, I believe that you have
(32:44):
a very diverse audience that listen to your show, and
so I want to get both sides of this correct.
First of all, we are not going in and just
taking Medicaid and Medicare from everyone who actually needs it.
We want to go in and have strategic Grade four
where you're taking able bodied adults out of the system,
(33:05):
and we're working on the negotiations of the time. The
timeframe for that now with the Senate to see what
that actually looks like. There is a big money laundering
scheme where a state puts in one dollar and the
federal government puts in a dollar thirty three for all
of the folks who are actually eligible for medicaid. But
then when you get illegal aliens and able bodied adults
(33:29):
included in that system. Well, now, when the state puts
in a dollar for those able bodied adults and illegal aliens,
the federal government it's coming in. I'm putting nine dollars
for those same people. So it's a huge money laundering
scheme that we've got to get right. That's something that
we are working on currently with the Senate to strengthen this.
(33:49):
We want a secure border, We want to unleash American energy.
We want to defund the green news scam. We want
no tax on tips and no tax on over time,
and there's even some provisions there for suppressors to remove
those from the National Firearms Act, and so much more.
We want to end snap eligibility for illegal aliens. And
(34:12):
so there's a lot of great things in here, but
I get Thomas Matthew's position on basically what could be
described as an omnibus bill, a big bill that can
include so many things. But this is not a budget bill.
This is a budget reconciliation. It's our only opportunity to
avoid this filibuster and actually get policy wins and financial
(34:33):
and fiscal wins in this term with our slim majorities.
So there is some give and take. But as the
bill sits in committee in the Senate, I'm a no.
I am a no on this bill the way the
Senate is revising what the House is sent over, and
so we've got to ensure that we are getting this
language right. When it comes to Inflation Reduction Act subsidies
(34:58):
for green energy, which is very unreliable and really just
messes up the market dramatically, and we could spend an
entire segment on that. I won't today, but we've got
to make sure that's right. We have to make sure
illegals are not eligible for snap benefits for Medicaid. We
(35:18):
want to have no tax on Medicare for the majority
of our seniors, and no tax and overtime, no text
etips to all these things. And so we've got to
keep the pressure on the Senate to send us a
good bill back. But I mean as of today, I'm
a no if the Senate sends us what they are
currently working on in committees without correcting this. So Thomas
(35:39):
Matthew is not wrong. But also there is a ground
where we say, this is our opportunity to actually pass
something meaningful that will secure our border and unleash American
energy and do things for our economy and the working
class in America. So is the bill perfect?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
No?
Speaker 10 (36:00):
Is it big? Absolutely? Is it beautiful? It could be.
And so we're currently putting pressure on the Senate to
make sure that we at least get what we sent
over from the House and maybe even a little bit
more the salt deductions. Again, we could spend another segment
on that alone. But what New York and California are
(36:22):
demanding for salt cap is absolutely insane. And Ryan, we
are a sault state. We have those state and local
taxes that are subsidized by the federal government. And still
I don't think it's right for folks in Kentucky and
Florida and other states that don't have day taxes to
pay in to subsidize for bad Democrat polity policies that
(36:44):
are taxing their people out of affordable living scenarios.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Follow her on exit, Lauren Bolbert so thankful for a time.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Thank you, Lauren. We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We're back to wrap it all up on Ryan Schuling
Live after this, Yes, it comes full circle on today's program.
We're fortunate to still have Jimmy Page with us, but
we lose Mick Ralphs, the founding member and guitarist for
Bad Company, who you just heard right there, and I'll
(37:17):
have some tribute music to him and Bad Company coming
up on the Dan Kampliss Show. Our thanks to representative
Lauren Bobert for joining us. I'll be filling in for
Ross Kaminsky tomorrow, so if you missed that conversation you
can catch it then as well. And this final text, Ryan,
no tax on tips is crazy and unfair.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
That is income.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I do agree, but it's a more nuanced conversation and
I'll continue it tomorrow right here with you on Ryan
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