October 16, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour of today's show, Ryan discusses Colorado Springs Mayor Yemi Mobolade and how he could change the landscape of the state's governors race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Had a number of people asked me to run for governor.
It's come from my own police department where some of
the leaders have said, will you consider run for governor.
It's come from leaders in Denver.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I was in a.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Meeting, an annual meeting that Miss Inshues has with a
number of Colorado leaders at the rank.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, that is Yummy mobile Lade, a very intriguing independent
mayor of Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And they sit down interview with Wayne Laguson.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now, Wayne Loguson will be joining Dan kaplis coming up
later on today at four thirty six pm and the mayor,
Yummy mobi Lade, will appear with Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I believe it's next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
There is talk, there is scuttle butt, and perhaps Mayor
Yemmy is responsible for this himself that he may indeed
run for governor of Colorado, and if he does, it
would appear to be that he would run as an independent.
And Dan and I were talking yesterday. I want to
get your thoughts at five seven, seven three nine here
on Ryan Schuling Live. Zach Seger's alongside appreciate his contributions
(01:08):
to the program today as our engineer, producer, on site
board operator etc.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But Mary Emmy is.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kind of the classic. Oh, I was talked into it.
It's not my idea, not running for my own ego.
I'm not running for my own ambition or aspirations. I
am doing this as a civil service to those around
me who have encouraged me to run. It's a classic line.
It does work. It's a good look, makes him look
selfless rather than selfish. And if he runs as an independent,
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this would not be unprecedented in Colorado history, would be unusual.
Dan and I were discussing whether or not that would
hurt or harm the candidacy for the Democrat nominee, be
it Phil Wiser or more likely.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Senator Michael Bennett.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I got to interview Ted Cruz today and that was
over on KOA, filling in for ros Keominski. It's a
fun conversation, it's an informative conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
If you didn't hear it first time around. We're gonna
have an.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Encore presentation of that coming up to start our three
o'clock hour hour number two today here on RSL. One
of the famous exchanges on the floor of the Senate
was Senator Michael Bennett, who Comrade Kyle likens to a
cicada he's only noticed every thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Not a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
He went full counselor Mackie from South Park, very upset
with Senator Cruz and my one regret from that interview,
and you're gonna hear a lot of ground covered in
a very short period of time, because he was supposed
to call in forty five minutes after the hour, giving
you some inside baseball here and the typical segment over
on that station. We're out at fifty four minutes after
(02:49):
the hour, so that's what that's nine minutes. He calls
in about two three minutes late, later than we expected.
So to program director Dave Tepper's credit, we've blew out
that end of the hour break. I took Senator Cruz
past the top of the hour. Rob Dawson, the news
director Koa played along Dragon was helpful in that endeavor
as well. We got the most that we could out
(03:11):
of Senator Cruz, got a lot of content and newsworthy
commentary and some of which you'll hear in.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Our second hour.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To start that off, but Senator Bennett floor of the
Senate that rhyme I understand that called out ted Cruz
because there were floods happening in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
People lots of jobs and each I.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Didn't have a chance to ask Senator Cruz about that
next time, next time, we hope, but it was a
fun conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Bennett is likely to be the nominee for the Democrats,
and therein would be the prohibitive favorite in a very
solidly blue Colorado. Not to rule out there's a possibility
a Republican nominee could win, but could an independent win?
Could Yemmy Mobilatte win? What has he done for and
(03:59):
with College Lado Springs. Wayne Uguston had an extended conversation
with him about that. Here's another portion of it right
now about people kind of cajoling him perhaps to launch
a run for governor.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Miss Sam Schiotz has been such a blessing to our state.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And in this annual meeting, three of those leaders asked,
I know, Republican leaders, when are you going to run
for governor? When I meet with Denver state leaders, they said, one,
are you going to run for governor? And I think
what they see in me is someone that's just practical,
like what and I think Colorado is probably when you
(04:36):
mentioned I think most of us are unaffiliated on independence,
and you see that as people detached from the political identities.
What they're really saying is we just care about our
safety and our quality of life.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
For those of you who are in Colorado Springs or
familiar with Colorado Springs or know somebody who lives there,
how would you characterize the leadership of Mayor Yemy Mamalade.
Has he truly ruled as an unaffiliated independent and put
the needs of Colorado Springs citizens first. It's a very
important city in our state. Normally it's a hot bed
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and a kind of a hub for Republican politics, one
of the few that we can hang our hats on
here in the state of Colorado, those of us who
are Republicans like myself. But Yemy was able to run
an ostensibly independent campaign for mayor there and win, and
he apparently enjoys a ground swallow support, according to his account,
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from those in public service positions that surround him, like
law enforcement, who have encouraged him to run, and in
meetings like he mentioned with mister Anschuetz who runs the gazette,
encouraging him the run.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But why would he be encouraged to run.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Is it so far gone here in Colorado that a
Republican candidate either doesn't stand a chance or the perception
is from high powered donors, and that matters that they
don't stand a chance.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The national money won't come.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
In from the RNC, and the statewide money will be
harder to raise, even under the leadership of Brita Horn,
who is attempting to get more of a ground swell
of boots on the ground in raising that type of
funding for our statewide candidates. Could mobil ate run in
a third lane and win or would he simply serve
(06:22):
as a spoiler. And if he was a spoiler, would
it be more detrimental to the Democrat nominee or the
Republican one. I have a thought on that, but let's
hear more from the mayor of Colorado Springs, Independent Yemi Mobilaate.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I hear that as a compliment when people say when
are you gonna run for governor? It's not a you
got to do this, maybe in their minds, but I
hear it as a compliment about you understand what needs
to be done, but right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
More.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But right now I'm just focused on being a great
mayor right now, I would love a second term to
accomplish the great work that we started, especially around when
we'll talk about the safety of our community. That truly
is one of my most important mayoral legacy, is to
ensure the safety of our city and be an example
for the rest of the state. I truly believe, I
(07:14):
truly believe the road to it's safe for Colorado starts
right here in Colorado Springs.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I've had a conversation with Mayor Mami Lade. I like
him personally. Seems like a really interesting, inspiring guy. He's
got a great individual story, and to my knowledge and
what I've observed, it doesn't seem like he's kind of
a Manchurian candidate under the radar for either political party,
be it Democrat or Republican. I could be wrong on that,
(07:42):
and if i am, please correct me. At five seven,
seven thirty nine, here's one final comment along those lines
from the mayor that again, this is a conversation with
Wayne louguson down there in the Springs. You can fight
it on YouTube and Wayne will appear with Dan Kaplis
at four thirty six pm today here on sixth th
kW The.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Road to everything Colorado Springs.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Last week I was in Denver with some leaders, CHAFFA leaders,
and Neil said, we looked at Colorada Swings as a modo.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You guys are doing it right. There's something different about
Colorado Springs.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think because as a community we live in
at tension of all these values. By the end of
the day, we're making decisions that are in the best
interest for our residents.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
At least that's how I lead our city.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay, And if that is indeed how he leads Colorado Springs,
I want to hear from you. Or if that is
not the case, and you're like, wait a minute, this
guy is full of it. I live in Colorado Springs,
I know Colorado Springs. That's not the way things are
going down here. But this is what he's hearing. This
is his account from the outside of what is going down.
(08:47):
Five seven, seven thirty nine is where you can send
that along. This is concerning a news story that was
sent to me but one of our loyal listeners in
Missouri formerly of Colorado, and you'll hear her voice occasionally
and actually often here on six point thirty k Off.
You listened during the breaks for our weather forecast. We
(09:07):
are partnered up with Fox thirty one. That's Katievr and
Kyllie Burse. You've heard her sign off, and I know
her tangentially, I don't know her very well personally. This
story is very personal for her and it's not the
first of which along these lines that we have heard
here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And it just seems like law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And I don't want to blame anybody in particular, but
in this case, the Denver DA, which is not a surprise,
is dropping the ball in another case of putting the
needs the interests. The rehabilitation efforts so called you know,
corrections is what our imprisonment is known as here because
the effort is always want to try to correct the
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behavior of those who are incarcerated and turn them back
into society as productive members, etc.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Kylie Burst appeared with Ashley Banfield last night on News Nation,
and the details of this are quite concerning, says a
Denver meteorologist says, the city's district attorney is placing her
life in jeopardy by not placing her stalk or behind bars.
This is a story I think we've heard the echoes
of it in Douglas County with one George Brockler TA
(10:18):
in the twenty third and he was frustrated along these
very lines.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But again we go to this story.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
News Nation affiliate KATIEVR meteorologist Kylie Burse joined Banfield on
Tuesday to discuss her traumatic experiences over the past three
years as a sixty nine year old man keeps stalking
her notwithstanding multiple restraining orders. I'd like to reach out
to Kylie, have her tell that story on our program,
try to have some sound for you. But this was
(10:47):
just brought to my attention, so I haven't had time
to really parse through it. So literally, as I'm reading
this in real time to you, I am processing it
for the first time myself.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did everything right, assuming that the system was in
place and the laws there to p tech me and
to put this man in jail for a period of time,
and so it was really disappointing and disheartening when it
just doesn't work and I'm left feeling unsafe. Burst told Banfield, quote,
he is wearing an ankle monitor, so he is not
allowed to come within a certain distance of where I am,
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and of course my work and whatnot. But even then
you get a heads up of a couple of minutes.
The police can't get there in time. If this person
wanted to be violent, they could do so within that
period of time. That is one hundred percent accurate. Now,
this goes back to twenty twenty three when Burst got
a temporary restraining order, but the man broke the restraining
(11:36):
order more than fifty times in two months.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Is that a joke? Fifty five is too much?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, one is too much, but five, let alone fifty.
In January twenty twenty four, she got a permanent restraining
order and for eighteen months things went quiet until September eleventh,
when the followed Burst home.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What are we doing here? That's my interjection?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
According to Burce, Senior Chief Deputy District Attorney Matthew Weinig
in the Denver DA's office told her that he did
not charge the man with felony stalking after violating a
protection order by trapping Burst in her garage, instead using
a quote judgment call unquote to bring it down to
(12:30):
a misdemeanor. Why is the operative question here? Why are
you doing this? Maniac an?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He favors what if perish the thought?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
God forbid this lunatic attacks Kylie burst and she is
hurt or killed, then what you are leaving yourself? I
would have to believe, and I'll reach out to George
Brockler during the break for his legal insight on this.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But you would have to.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Believe the city of Denver would be left wide open
to legal action by Kylie and her family if any
harm was done to her, because this was well within
the purview of the District Attorney's office to stop it.
What is the upside to cutting this total derelict a break?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Continuing with the article, ween allegedly added that the eighteen
month gap between violations contributed to it being a misdemeanor.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't give.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
One blank how much time was in between the two.
The point of the matter is that Kylie burse is
being harassed and stalked and followed into her garage by
this person that couldnt be permitted, not in a civilized society.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
How is that a misdemeanor?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
First continues quote and I said, well, your judgment call
is putting my life in danger.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
She gave her account of the conversation with Weenig. Get this.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The man was issued a fifteen hundred dollars five and
had no restriction placed on his comings and goings. News
Nation has reached out to the Denver District Attorney's office.
You're going to be shocked by this. They have not
yet received a response. Versus not taking any other legal recourse,
but wants to speak out in the hopes that things
will improve in the future. I don't even know Kylie,
(14:30):
but I have this protective instinct.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm a big brother.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I have two little sisters, I have two young nieces,
and I don't like this one bit. I don't like
how this looks. I don't like how it smells. Just
out the page here, this is rank, this is wrong.
Verse concludes this article again her appearance on Banfield News
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Nation quote, I'm just hoping that you know this doesn't
happen to other women going forward.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
This is why I wanted to share my story.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I want them to be harder on stalking so that
it doesn't happen to other people. I mean, this is
a ticking time bomb, that's powder keg Kylie burse her safety,
her well being.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Is very much in danger.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And we as a society, through law enforcement, through prosecutor's
offices like the District.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Attorney in Denver.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Owe it to our law abiding citizens to protect and
serve to the degree that that's possible. And sometimes you
don't know. There might be a random attack on the street.
You could be burglarized, you could be robbed at gunpoint.
That happens moments. Notice you don't know here, we know
there's information the guy's done it fifty times, and you're
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going to bump that down to a misdemeanor. I don't understand.
It does not compute five seven seventy thirty nine. If
you want to send your thoughts alone, This predisposition for
the left, and it is the left, no mistake about it.
Democrat DA's liberal progressive members of our legislature and governor's
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office here in Colorado and in other states. To predetermine
that we're going to have some kind of sympathy empathy
for the perpetrators.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't care about them. They made a choice.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They are a victim of their own circumstances, choices. Agency
consequences must derive from those actions. And part of law
enforcement is crime and punishment. We can't rehabilitate every offender,
nor should that be the goal or aim. Necessarily, There
are some people that are beyond repair and cannot function
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in our society, and they don't belong there. And maybe
they belong in a mental hospital, but they certainly don't
belong out on the streets, like Solomon Gallaghan, like the
cases we've seen in the wake of this competency debacle
here in the state of Colorado, and you're not competent
to tryal Why is it that's so many m left
(17:03):
side with the bad guys the old meme, are we
the baddies?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You are? You are the batties?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Why is this so difficult to side with the actual
victims of crime? And what makes you what instinct pushes
you to support or side with a perpetrator, an offender,
a stalker, an assaulter and give them lighter sentences. I
don't get it, and I know you don't either. Another
(17:31):
example of liberal madness. Here's Jennifer Welch. You might recognize
her some podcast clips I've cut in the pass. He's
a liberal white woman from Oklahoma, and here is her
virtue signaling to close out this segment.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I'm a white woman that has living in a red
state my entire life, and I can tell you when
I'm around white people, they test the racist water. They
test it on people like you all all the time,
and they'll try to say off color things. I put
my hand up. It absolutely happens, and you're fortunate that
maybe you're having.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I can I just say, literally.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
This August, a white person said the N word.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Get in front of Mabi.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I can't come on. First of all, I'm not sure
if I believe any of that. Secondly, is that true.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is that happening to any of you, that when you're
at a group, let's say, of predominantly white people, that
they test the racist waters. I can only tell you
my experience, and I can only tell you that I
hate the N word. I hate everything it represents, historically
and otherwise. I don't think that word. I don't say
that word. I don't write that word. I cringe when
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I hear that word from anybody. I don't think it
should be part of our body politic or polite conversations.
I don't like it even necessarily when comedians use it,
even if it is Dave Chappelle, and he is a
very funny guy. But are white people really doing that?
Or is this a red herring from Jennifer welch liberal
(19:01):
white woman who hails from Oklahoma five seven, seven thirty nine.
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Speaker 8 (20:55):
Look, I think he is number one incredibly arrogant in
a little but number two hard, hard left and you
look at listen, Joe Biden was not president for the
last four years.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He was not capable of it. He was not running.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Question I get asked most often for years was Who's
running the White House. Here's the terrifying answer. I genuinely
do not know my best theory. I think it was
Barack Obama and as cronies. But look, the Biden White
House was by any measure, massively to the left of
where Obama was. But I don't think that's because Obama
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wasn't in crazy town. I just think the country wasn't
ready to go all the way to crazy town. What
has happened is Trump became president and any semblance of
a moderate Democrats fled and they're all now crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sounds about right, with the possible exception of our good
friend John Fetterman, who I hope to have on this
program someday. But we will have Senator Ted Cruz, who
you just heard, and that'll be coming up a little
over a half hour from right now, so stick and
stay for that here on Ryan Schuling Live. You can
text the program and five seven seven three nine Zach
Seekers alongside as well, got some sound and I just
(22:13):
reached out directly via text to the aforementioned Kylie Burse
who does weather on this very program on this station.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You've heard her many times.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
She works at our affiliate KATVR on the TV side,
that's Fox thirty one, and she appeared with Ashley Banfield
on News Nation about a stalker that is not being
handled very appropriately or very well by the Denver DIA's office,
and we plan to talk about it, hopefully directly with
her at some point soon.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
I don't think many people really understand how incredibly onerous
it is to live with something like this for just
a couple of weeks, let alone three years. Tell me
a little bit more about what happened that night that
he showed up at your house and you're trying to
back into your garage.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, Ashley, thank you so much, and I really appreciate
you having me on tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
That day.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's it's hard to describe because the moment that I
saw him, when I realized that it was him blocking
me in my garage, feeling in my gut, my stomach
just dropped, and I remember thinking, Okay, if he has
a weapon, you need to get down as fast as
you can. I got that garage closed, I was able
to get inside. He got a round, starts fringing the doorbell,
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and I was able to get out, calling nine on
one dog in hand, met a police officer in the park.
They sent another officer to the house. He had continued
sitting outside the house and was there for about twenty
minutes before they got there, and then he was eventually
arrested for what they told me was felony stalking at
the time.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
And yet he's arrested for felony stalking, he doesn't get
charged with it. Why, like what happened, where's the disconnect?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
You know, the detective and detective really did fight for me.
He called and said that the DA is not going
through with the felony charges. He's bringing it down to
a misdemeanor. And when I asked why, he brought up
that gap. So that gap that was a year and
a half from January twenty twenty four when the protection
order seemed to be working until a month ago, and
he said, you know, eighteen months is too long and
doesn't count as repeated. So I get lawyers with me,
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and I'm looking at the law and there's nothing in
there about a timeline. So I asked, I say, I
want to speak to the DA. I want to advocate
for myself. I want to let him know how I'm
feeling about this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And just talk to him.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Maybe he doesn't understand that this had happened for years
prior to that, and he just kept saying, there's it's
been too long of a gap, And so finally I say, okay,
so how long do I have to wait for this
man to stalk me again so that it goes down
from felony to a misdemeanor. He can't answer me. I'm
pressing him for a timeline. Finally he goes, it's a
judgment call, and I said, well, your judgment call is
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putting my life in danger.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That from News Nation, Ashley Banfield and Kylie Burst. Meteorologist
Kativr Fox thirty one again gives radio weather updates on
this very station. I mean, I'm pretty worked up about this.
I can only imagine how Kylie feels. But if I
was her brother, her her husband or boyfriend, that's not
a good enough answer. Plus, she takes me down the
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road to the fallacy argument that I always make, which
is eighteen months. That's too long in between, so it's
not felony stalking anymore, it's a misdemeanor. Okay, where is
that line drawn?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
Then?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think that's where she was keying in on.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
If we get around to talk about it, that's the
first question I'm going to ask so is it eleven months?
Is it four months? Is it thirteen months? Where is
that line?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Where? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Now, whoa, that's a back to back occurrence and that's
a felony. Oh wait a minute, enough time's gone by.
He left you alone for a few months. This second
time is just a misdemeanor. Where is that line? And
then the trap that you set by asking that question
is as follows. Okay, so the line is assistant DA,
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you said seven months? Why seven months? Why isn't it six?
Why isn't it eight? Why did you draw the line
at seven months? And who are you to determine where
that line is? It's arbitrary, that's the argument. Any stalking
should be a zero tolerance policy. She's got a permanent
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restraining order against this lunatic, this maniac, this madman.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He was there in her driveway, cornering her in her.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Garage for twenty minutes, twenty minutes before law enforcement arrived
on scene.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When we go to break here, I.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Want to get I think I want to get Sheriff
Steve raams On talk about something like this and what
he would do as a sheriff. We know this would
be handled very differently in Weld County than in Denver County.
My number one recommendation to Kylie Burst would be moved
to welld County or move to Dougcoe where you will
be protected by Sheriff Weekly and DA Brockler, or in
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Weld County you'll be protected by Sheriff Steve Riams and
the DA there Dedver you can, you can write that
right off. They are about criminals first victims. You don't matter.
She's a victim here. She's been stalked, she feels in dangered.
This guy has violated it fifty times? Are you nuts?
(27:15):
And you're not gonna do anything about it? What is
it gonna take? What is it gonna take? And how
is it gonna look? Do you not think of the
pr implications of this down the line? If again, God forbid,
pray for her, protect Kylie Burst. If she were attacked, assaulted, raped, murdered, kidnapped,
that could well happen over the course of twenty minutes.
(27:38):
It didn't, well, so what it could have? It might
Who knows what's gonna set this guy off trigger and
agitate him her rejecting his advance of sixty nine year
old weirdo That could be enough. How is it that
you don't uniformly lockstep default position, stand right in front
of Kylie Burst and say thou shalt pass. You're gonna
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pull the whole Lord of the Ring stuff. What is
the benefit? What is the upside to protecting this clown,
this guy that's stalking her? What is the benefit?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
What is the positive to that? Please articulate for that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
For me, I can't relate to the lunatic left. So
if you're there and you love criminals, please explain that
to me. Please map that out.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How Kylie Burst doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Her feeling safe doesn't matter, her feeling threatened doesn't matter,
restraining order doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We're gonna go mis themeter on this and not have.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Any kind of real deterrent from this guy doing it
again and it escalating, because that's what happens. I've seen
enough Forensic Files episodes, I've seen enough Dateline NBC episodes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know where this goes and how it gets.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
There with this out of control, out of his mind
crazy person.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Five seven seventy three nine. That is the text line.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We'll take this time out, send it to.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
This Texas, says Ted Cruz. I got to read it.
In the Michael Bennett viice like.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
The real Ted Cruz. Really, I can't wait too, Yeah,
the real Ted Cruz. The genuine article even pretended to
know who I am. But you'll hear that coming up
in about twenty five minutes. You're listening to Ryan Shuling Live.
We're back after this. Senator Ted Cruz still to come.
(29:28):
Talk about an A list guest and just as important
from our perspective, locally Representative Gabe Evans will be joining
us at the.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Bottom of the hour in the three pm slot.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
This from a close confidant of mine, frequent guest on
the program and fill in host for Dan Kaplis quote.
What was missed is that he was caught eighteen months apart.
How many times did he violate that restraining order that
she didn't know about or at least law enforcement wasn't
informed about. And who draws that arbitrary line in the
(29:59):
sanate teen months? Not it's a misdemeanor. So I decided
to bring him on and he graciously agreed to do so.
Is that connected the dots here? Sheriff Steve Riems joining
us on Ryan Schuling Live. Sheriff, thanks for your time,
your input, not sure about how much of what you've
heard regarding the case and the stalker of meteorologists here
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and Kylie Burst, but just your initial reaction, Well.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
This is very typical of what you're seeing in the
criminal justice system. You know, I say all the time,
elections have consequences, and Governor Polus is responsible for the
appointment of judges, and we've had Democrat governors in place
for quite some time. We've got a liberal bench, and
I think what you're seeing is a reflection of that.
(30:47):
These stocking cases are scary because these people, you know,
they continually devolve as they're going through these stalking issues,
So you know, you pointed out each one of these
can be more and more dangerous. And there's no telling
how many times you know he was watching her or
following her and she just wasn't aware. He got caught
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eighteen months apart. But these things are extremely serious, but
apparently the courts don't see it the same way.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He is currently the sheriff of Wild County. He is
running for Wild County Commissioner. Steve Reims our guest. The
one thing that I would feel, and I'm sure you're
right there lockstep with me sheriff, because you and I
share so much in common in terms.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of how we view the world.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
If I was the sheriff, if I was the detective,
if I was the DA, the assistant DA, they gave
her that kakammy excuse for dropping it down to a misdemeanor.
I could not live with myself if my decision led
to anything happening to her. I'd never be able to
clear my conscience, could you now?
Speaker 10 (31:43):
And that's something that we've preached with every law enforcement
monster that works in my agency, is hey, you go
lazy on this case, and they can have huge ramifications
for the victim or potential victims. Yeah, you got to
take every case extremely serious, and you know, the judges
and prosecute have to look at it the same way.
And I don't know how they got to the end
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on this one with you know, knocking this guy's charges down.
He's obviously a threat. But again, elections have consequences. We
get bad judges, we get bad prosecutors at times, and
like you said, before moves to Weld County.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I've got to reach out to Kylie and tell her
exactly that because she'll be protected, it'll be life will
be better in every single way conceivably in Weld County,
or it would be in Doug Cooe as well. But
to that point, Sheriff, I'm a big fan of the
scientific method. You've got a constant, you've got a variable
you've got to control in the experiment, and then you
do the experiment. If Denver, which is absolutely crazy, is
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the experiment, Let's use Weld County as the control. Let's
just replay this entire scenario as best as you can
kind of outline it for us. If this exact same
thing happened to Kylie Burst and she was in Weld County,
how would this have gone down?
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Well, you know, on the arrest side, probably very similarly.
I mean, we're going to show up, you know, we're
gonna get there as fast as we can on a
call like that and take the person in the custody,
you know, take them to jail, put forth an affidavit
before the courts. I think where this would change in
Well County is that you have a prosecutor's office, a
District attorney's office with Michael Rourke our DA who does
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take these cases very serious. They're going to go to
the n's degree to try to bring justice, justice to
this person. And you know, we also have a process
in Welld County where if judges are failing victims, we
let the public know. We don't hide from that. I
have a released report on my website webshriff dot com
where people can go and see who's being released each day,
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which judge set the bond, and what the bond was
that they set for that individual, because I want people
to be able to hold folks accountable. And you know,
again in Welld County, I think this turns out differently,
but you never know. With certain judges, you just never know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Sure, less than a minute left, real quick here, have
you ever heard of anything like this that there'd be
a statute of limitations or a time period between violations
of a restraining order that suddenly render it moot.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Nothing set in stone. It is a judgment call, and
that's why it's important. That's who appoints to judges.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Sheriff Steve Reems he is departing that position and will
be running is running for Will County Commissioner Sheriff. Next
time you have a big event, I promised to be there.
Just let me know what it is, okay, all right,
Sheriff Steve Rems always given us the law enforcement side
of things. And again short bit of advice to Kylie
Burst move out of Denver like Bob Seeger saying about
(34:38):
get out of Denver because you look just like a
comedy and you might just be a member well count here,
Doug Coe, that's the best I can do for you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Kylie hoped to have her on the program soon.
Had a number of people asked me to run for governor.
It's come from my own police department where some of
the leaders have said, will you consider run for governor.
It's come from leaders in Denver.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I was in a.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Meeting, an annual meeting that Miss Inshues has with a
number of Colorado leaders at the rank.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, that is Yummy mobile Lade, a very intriguing independent
mayor of Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And they sit down interview with Wayne Laguson.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now, Wayne Loguson will be joining Dan kaplis coming up
later on today at four thirty six pm and the mayor,
Yummy mobi Lade, will appear with Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I believe it's next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
There is talk, there is scuttle butt, and perhaps Mayor
Yemmy is responsible for this himself that he may indeed
run for governor of Colorado, and if he does, it
would appear to be that he would run as an independent.
And Dan and I were talking yesterday. I want to
get your thoughts at five seven, seven three nine here
on Ryan Schuling Live. Zach Seger's alongside appreciate his contributions
(01:08):
to the program today as our engineer, producer, on site
board operator etc.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But Mary Emmy is.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Kind of the classic. Oh, I was talked into it.
It's not my idea, not running for my own ego.
I'm not running for my own ambition or aspirations. I
am doing this as a civil service to those around
me who have encouraged me to run. It's a classic line.
It does work. It's a good look, makes him look
selfless rather than selfish. And if he runs as an independent,
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this would not be unprecedented in Colorado history, would be unusual.
Dan and I were discussing whether or not that would
hurt or harm the candidacy for the Democrat nominee, be
it Phil Wiser or more likely.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Senator Michael Bennett.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I got to interview Ted Cruz today and that was
over on KOA, filling in for ros Keominski. It's a
fun conversation, it's an informative conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
If you didn't hear it first time around. We're gonna
have an.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Encore presentation of that coming up to start our three
o'clock hour hour number two today here on RSL. One
of the famous exchanges on the floor of the Senate
was Senator Michael Bennett, who Comrade Kyle likens to a
cicada he's only noticed every thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Not a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
He went full counselor Mackie from South Park, very upset
with Senator Cruz and my one regret from that interview,
and you're gonna hear a lot of ground covered in
a very short period of time, because he was supposed
to call in forty five minutes after the hour, giving
you some inside baseball here and the typical segment over
on that station. We're out at fifty four minutes after
(02:49):
the hour, so that's what that's nine minutes. He calls
in about two three minutes late, later than we expected.
So to program director Dave Tepper's credit, we've blew out
that end of the hour break. I took Senator Cruz
past the top of the hour. Rob Dawson, the news
director Koa played along Dragon was helpful in that endeavor
as well. We got the most that we could out
(03:11):
of Senator Cruz, got a lot of content and newsworthy
commentary and some of which you'll hear in.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Our second hour.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To start that off, but Senator Bennett floor of the
Senate that rhyme I understand that called out ted Cruz
because there were floods happening in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
People lots of jobs and each I.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Didn't have a chance to ask Senator Cruz about that
next time, next time, we hope, but it was a
fun conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Bennett is likely to be the nominee for the Democrats,
and therein would be the prohibitive favorite in a very
solidly blue Colorado. Not to rule out there's a possibility
a Republican nominee could win, but could an independent win?
Could Yemmy Mobilatte win? What has he done for and
(03:59):
with College Lado Springs. Wayne Uguston had an extended conversation
with him about that. Here's another portion of it right
now about people kind of cajoling him perhaps to launch
a run for governor.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Miss Sam Schiotz has been such a blessing to our state.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And in this annual meeting, three of those leaders asked,
I know, Republican leaders, when are you going to run
for governor? When I meet with Denver state leaders, they said, one,
are you going to run for governor? And I think
what they see in me is someone that's just practical,
like what and I think Colorado is probably when you
(04:36):
mentioned I think most of us are unaffiliated on independence,
and you see that as people detached from the political identities.
What they're really saying is we just care about our
safety and our quality of life.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
For those of you who are in Colorado Springs or
familiar with Colorado Springs or know somebody who lives there,
how would you characterize the leadership of Mayor Yemy Mamalade.
Has he truly ruled as an unaffiliated independent and put
the needs of Colorado Springs citizens first. It's a very
important city in our state. Normally it's a hot bed
(05:13):
and a kind of a hub for Republican politics, one
of the few that we can hang our hats on
here in the state of Colorado, those of us who
are Republicans like myself. But Yemy was able to run
an ostensibly independent campaign for mayor there and win, and
he apparently enjoys a ground swallow support, according to his account,
(05:36):
from those in public service positions that surround him, like
law enforcement, who have encouraged him to run, and in
meetings like he mentioned with mister Anschuetz who runs the gazette,
encouraging him the run.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But why would he be encouraged to run.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Is it so far gone here in Colorado that a
Republican candidate either doesn't stand a chance or the perception
is from high powered donors, and that matters that they
don't stand a chance.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The national money won't come.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
In from the RNC, and the statewide money will be
harder to raise, even under the leadership of Brita Horn,
who is attempting to get more of a ground swell
of boots on the ground in raising that type of
funding for our statewide candidates. Could mobil ate run in
a third lane and win or would he simply serve
(06:22):
as a spoiler. And if he was a spoiler, would
it be more detrimental to the Democrat nominee or the
Republican one. I have a thought on that, but let's
hear more from the mayor of Colorado Springs, Independent Yemi Mobilaate.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I hear that as a compliment when people say when
are you gonna run for governor? It's not a you
got to do this, maybe in their minds, but I
hear it as a compliment about you understand what needs
to be done, but right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
More.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But right now I'm just focused on being a great
mayor right now, I would love a second term to
accomplish the great work that we started, especially around when
we'll talk about the safety of our community. That truly
is one of my most important mayoral legacy, is to
ensure the safety of our city and be an example
for the rest of the state. I truly believe, I
(07:14):
truly believe the road to it's safe for Colorado starts
right here in Colorado Springs.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I've had a conversation with Mayor Mami Lade. I like
him personally. Seems like a really interesting, inspiring guy. He's
got a great individual story, and to my knowledge and
what I've observed, it doesn't seem like he's kind of
a Manchurian candidate under the radar for either political party,
be it Democrat or Republican. I could be wrong on that,
(07:42):
and if i am, please correct me. At five seven,
seven thirty nine, here's one final comment along those lines
from the mayor that again, this is a conversation with
Wayne louguson down there in the Springs. You can fight
it on YouTube and Wayne will appear with Dan Kaplis
at four thirty six pm today here on sixth th
kW The.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Road to everything Colorado Springs.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Last week I was in Denver with some leaders, CHAFFA leaders,
and Neil said, we looked at Colorada Swings as a modo.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You guys are doing it right. There's something different about
Colorado Springs.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think because as a community we live in
at tension of all these values. By the end of
the day, we're making decisions that are in the best
interest for our residents.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
At least that's how I lead our city.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay, And if that is indeed how he leads Colorado Springs,
I want to hear from you. Or if that is
not the case, and you're like, wait a minute, this
guy is full of it. I live in Colorado Springs,
I know Colorado Springs. That's not the way things are
going down here. But this is what he's hearing. This
is his account from the outside of what is going down.
(08:47):
Five seven, seven thirty nine is where you can send
that along. This is concerning a news story that was
sent to me but one of our loyal listeners in
Missouri formerly of Colorado, and you'll hear her voice occasionally
and actually often here on six point thirty k Off.
You listened during the breaks for our weather forecast. We
(09:07):
are partnered up with Fox thirty one. That's Katievr and
Kyllie Burse. You've heard her sign off, and I know
her tangentially, I don't know her very well personally. This
story is very personal for her and it's not the
first of which along these lines that we have heard
here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And it just seems like law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And I don't want to blame anybody in particular, but
in this case, the Denver DA, which is not a surprise,
is dropping the ball in another case of putting the
needs the interests. The rehabilitation efforts so called you know,
corrections is what our imprisonment is known as here because
the effort is always want to try to correct the
(09:46):
behavior of those who are incarcerated and turn them back
into society as productive members, etc.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Kylie Burst appeared with Ashley Banfield last night on News Nation,
and the details of this are quite concerning, says a
Denver meteorologist says, the city's district attorney is placing her
life in jeopardy by not placing her stalk or behind bars.
This is a story I think we've heard the echoes
of it in Douglas County with one George Brockler TA
(10:18):
in the twenty third and he was frustrated along these
very lines.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But again we go to this story.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
News Nation affiliate KATIEVR meteorologist Kylie Burse joined Banfield on
Tuesday to discuss her traumatic experiences over the past three
years as a sixty nine year old man keeps stalking
her notwithstanding multiple restraining orders. I'd like to reach out
to Kylie, have her tell that story on our program,
try to have some sound for you. But this was
(10:47):
just brought to my attention, so I haven't had time
to really parse through it. So literally, as I'm reading
this in real time to you, I am processing it
for the first time myself.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did everything right, assuming that the system was in
place and the laws there to p tech me and
to put this man in jail for a period of time,
and so it was really disappointing and disheartening when it
just doesn't work and I'm left feeling unsafe. Burst told Banfield, quote,
he is wearing an ankle monitor, so he is not
allowed to come within a certain distance of where I am,
(11:16):
and of course my work and whatnot. But even then
you get a heads up of a couple of minutes.
The police can't get there in time. If this person
wanted to be violent, they could do so within that
period of time. That is one hundred percent accurate. Now,
this goes back to twenty twenty three when Burst got
a temporary restraining order, but the man broke the restraining
(11:36):
order more than fifty times in two months.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Is that a joke? Fifty five is too much?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, one is too much, but five, let alone fifty.
In January twenty twenty four, she got a permanent restraining
order and for eighteen months things went quiet until September eleventh,
when the followed Burst home.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What are we doing here? That's my interjection?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
According to Burce, Senior Chief Deputy District Attorney Matthew Weinig
in the Denver DA's office told her that he did
not charge the man with felony stalking after violating a
protection order by trapping Burst in her garage, instead using
a quote judgment call unquote to bring it down to
(12:30):
a misdemeanor. Why is the operative question here? Why are
you doing this? Maniac an?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He favors what if perish the thought?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
God forbid this lunatic attacks Kylie burst and she is
hurt or killed, then what you are leaving yourself? I
would have to believe, and I'll reach out to George
Brockler during the break for his legal insight on this.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But you would have to.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Believe the city of Denver would be left wide open
to legal action by Kylie and her family if any
harm was done to her, because this was well within
the purview of the District Attorney's office to stop it.
What is the upside to cutting this total derelict a break?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Continuing with the article, ween allegedly added that the eighteen
month gap between violations contributed to it being a misdemeanor.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't give.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
One blank how much time was in between the two.
The point of the matter is that Kylie burse is
being harassed and stalked and followed into her garage by
this person that couldnt be permitted, not in a civilized society.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
How is that a misdemeanor?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
First continues quote and I said, well, your judgment call
is putting my life in danger.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
She gave her account of the conversation with Weenig. Get this.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The man was issued a fifteen hundred dollars five and
had no restriction placed on his comings and goings. News
Nation has reached out to the Denver District Attorney's office.
You're going to be shocked by this. They have not
yet received a response. Versus not taking any other legal recourse,
but wants to speak out in the hopes that things
will improve in the future. I don't even know Kylie,
(14:30):
but I have this protective instinct.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm a big brother.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I have two little sisters, I have two young nieces,
and I don't like this one bit. I don't like
how this looks. I don't like how it smells. Just
out the page here, this is rank, this is wrong.
Verse concludes this article again her appearance on Banfield News
(14:54):
Nation quote, I'm just hoping that you know this doesn't
happen to other women going forward.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
This is why I wanted to share my story.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I want them to be harder on stalking so that
it doesn't happen to other people. I mean, this is
a ticking time bomb, that's powder keg Kylie burse her safety,
her well being.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Is very much in danger.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And we as a society, through law enforcement, through prosecutor's
offices like the District.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Attorney in Denver.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Owe it to our law abiding citizens to protect and
serve to the degree that that's possible. And sometimes you
don't know. There might be a random attack on the street.
You could be burglarized, you could be robbed at gunpoint.
That happens moments. Notice you don't know here, we know
there's information the guy's done it fifty times, and you're
(15:43):
going to bump that down to a misdemeanor. I don't understand.
It does not compute five seven seventy thirty nine. If
you want to send your thoughts alone, This predisposition for
the left, and it is the left, no mistake about it.
Democrat DA's liberal progressive members of our legislature and governor's
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office here in Colorado and in other states. To predetermine
that we're going to have some kind of sympathy empathy
for the perpetrators.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't care about them. They made a choice.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They are a victim of their own circumstances, choices. Agency
consequences must derive from those actions. And part of law
enforcement is crime and punishment. We can't rehabilitate every offender,
nor should that be the goal or aim. Necessarily, There
are some people that are beyond repair and cannot function
(16:42):
in our society, and they don't belong there. And maybe
they belong in a mental hospital, but they certainly don't
belong out on the streets, like Solomon Gallaghan, like the
cases we've seen in the wake of this competency debacle
here in the state of Colorado, and you're not competent
to tryal Why is it that's so many m left
(17:03):
side with the bad guys the old meme, are we
the baddies?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You are? You are the batties?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Why is this so difficult to side with the actual
victims of crime? And what makes you what instinct pushes
you to support or side with a perpetrator, an offender,
a stalker, an assaulter and give them lighter sentences. I
don't get it, and I know you don't either. Another
(17:31):
example of liberal madness. Here's Jennifer Welch. You might recognize
her some podcast clips I've cut in the pass. He's
a liberal white woman from Oklahoma, and here is her
virtue signaling to close out this segment.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I'm a white woman that has living in a red
state my entire life, and I can tell you when
I'm around white people, they test the racist water. They
test it on people like you all all the time,
and they'll try to say off color things. I put
my hand up. It absolutely happens, and you're fortunate that
maybe you're having.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I can I just say, literally.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
This August, a white person said the N word.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Get in front of Mabi.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I can't come on. First of all, I'm not sure
if I believe any of that. Secondly, is that true.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is that happening to any of you, that when you're
at a group, let's say, of predominantly white people, that
they test the racist waters. I can only tell you
my experience, and I can only tell you that I
hate the N word. I hate everything it represents, historically
and otherwise. I don't think that word. I don't say
that word. I don't write that word. I cringe when
(18:40):
I hear that word from anybody. I don't think it
should be part of our body politic or polite conversations.
I don't like it even necessarily when comedians use it,
even if it is Dave Chappelle, and he is a
very funny guy. But are white people really doing that?
Or is this a red herring from Jennifer welch liberal
(19:01):
white woman who hails from Oklahoma five seven, seven thirty nine.
That and plenty more to get to ahead on today's
episode of Ryan Schuling Live, including Senator Ted Cruz an
hour number two and Representative Gabe Evans as well still
to come, talking about safety and security and it applies
to your wealth building as well.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You're planning for retirement, which.
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Speaker 8 (20:55):
Look, I think he is number one incredibly arrogant in
a little but number two hard, hard left and you
look at listen, Joe Biden was not president for the
last four years.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He was not capable of it. He was not running.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Question I get asked most often for years was Who's
running the White House. Here's the terrifying answer. I genuinely
do not know my best theory. I think it was
Barack Obama and as cronies. But look, the Biden White
House was by any measure, massively to the left of
where Obama was. But I don't think that's because Obama
(21:33):
wasn't in crazy town. I just think the country wasn't
ready to go all the way to crazy town. What
has happened is Trump became president and any semblance of
a moderate Democrats fled and they're all now crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sounds about right, with the possible exception of our good
friend John Fetterman, who I hope to have on this
program someday. But we will have Senator Ted Cruz, who
you just heard, and that'll be coming up a little
over a half hour from right now, so stick and
stay for that here on Ryan Schuling Live. You can
text the program and five seven seven three nine Zach
Seekers alongside as well, got some sound and I just
(22:13):
reached out directly via text to the aforementioned Kylie Burse
who does weather on this very program on this station.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You've heard her many times.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
She works at our affiliate KATVR on the TV side,
that's Fox thirty one, and she appeared with Ashley Banfield
on News Nation about a stalker that is not being
handled very appropriately or very well by the Denver DIA's office,
and we plan to talk about it, hopefully directly with
her at some point soon.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
I don't think many people really understand how incredibly onerous
it is to live with something like this for just
a couple of weeks, let alone three years. Tell me
a little bit more about what happened that night that
he showed up at your house and you're trying to
back into your garage.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, Ashley, thank you so much, and I really appreciate
you having me on tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
That day.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's it's hard to describe because the moment that I
saw him, when I realized that it was him blocking
me in my garage, feeling in my gut, my stomach
just dropped, and I remember thinking, Okay, if he has
a weapon, you need to get down as fast as
you can. I got that garage closed, I was able
to get inside. He got a round, starts fringing the doorbell,
(23:22):
and I was able to get out, calling nine on
one dog in hand, met a police officer in the park.
They sent another officer to the house. He had continued
sitting outside the house and was there for about twenty
minutes before they got there, and then he was eventually
arrested for what they told me was felony stalking at
the time.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
And yet he's arrested for felony stalking, he doesn't get
charged with it. Why, like what happened, where's the disconnect?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
You know, the detective and detective really did fight for me.
He called and said that the DA is not going
through with the felony charges. He's bringing it down to
a misdemeanor. And when I asked why, he brought up
that gap. So that gap that was a year and
a half from January twenty twenty four when the protection
order seemed to be working until a month ago, and
he said, you know, eighteen months is too long and
doesn't count as repeated. So I get lawyers with me,
(24:08):
and I'm looking at the law and there's nothing in
there about a timeline. So I asked, I say, I
want to speak to the DA. I want to advocate
for myself. I want to let him know how I'm
feeling about this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And just talk to him.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Maybe he doesn't understand that this had happened for years
prior to that, and he just kept saying, there's it's
been too long of a gap, And so finally I say, okay,
so how long do I have to wait for this
man to stalk me again so that it goes down
from felony to a misdemeanor. He can't answer me. I'm
pressing him for a timeline. Finally he goes, it's a
judgment call, and I said, well, your judgment call is
(24:40):
putting my life in danger.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That from News Nation, Ashley Banfield and Kylie Burst. Meteorologist
Kativr Fox thirty one again gives radio weather updates on
this very station. I mean, I'm pretty worked up about this.
I can only imagine how Kylie feels. But if I
was her brother, her her husband or boyfriend, that's not
a good enough answer. Plus, she takes me down the
(25:06):
road to the fallacy argument that I always make, which
is eighteen months. That's too long in between, so it's
not felony stalking anymore, it's a misdemeanor. Okay, where is
that line drawn?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
Then?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think that's where she was keying in on.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
If we get around to talk about it, that's the
first question I'm going to ask so is it eleven months?
Is it four months? Is it thirteen months? Where is
that line?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Where? Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Now, whoa, that's a back to back occurrence and that's
a felony. Oh wait a minute, enough time's gone by.
He left you alone for a few months. This second
time is just a misdemeanor. Where is that line? And
then the trap that you set by asking that question
is as follows. Okay, so the line is assistant DA,
(25:50):
you said seven months? Why seven months? Why isn't it six?
Why isn't it eight? Why did you draw the line
at seven months? And who are you to determine where
that line is? It's arbitrary, that's the argument. Any stalking
should be a zero tolerance policy. She's got a permanent
(26:11):
restraining order against this lunatic, this maniac, this madman.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He was there in her driveway, cornering her in her.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Garage for twenty minutes, twenty minutes before law enforcement arrived
on scene.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When we go to break here, I.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Want to get I think I want to get Sheriff
Steve raams On talk about something like this and what
he would do as a sheriff. We know this would
be handled very differently in Weld County than in Denver County.
My number one recommendation to Kylie Burst would be moved
to welld County or move to Dougcoe where you will
be protected by Sheriff Weekly and DA Brockler, or in
(26:52):
Weld County you'll be protected by Sheriff Steve Riams and
the DA there Dedver you can, you can write that
right off. They are about criminals first victims. You don't matter.
She's a victim here. She's been stalked, she feels in dangered.
This guy has violated it fifty times? Are you nuts?
(27:15):
And you're not gonna do anything about it? What is
it gonna take? What is it gonna take? And how
is it gonna look? Do you not think of the
pr implications of this down the line? If again, God forbid,
pray for her, protect Kylie Burst. If she were attacked, assaulted, raped, murdered, kidnapped,
that could well happen over the course of twenty minutes.
(27:38):
It didn't, well, so what it could have? It might
Who knows what's gonna set this guy off trigger and
agitate him her rejecting his advance of sixty nine year
old weirdo That could be enough. How is it that
you don't uniformly lockstep default position, stand right in front
of Kylie Burst and say thou shalt pass. You're gonna
(28:02):
pull the whole Lord of the Ring stuff. What is
the benefit? What is the upside to protecting this clown,
this guy that's stalking her? What is the benefit?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
What is the positive to that? Please articulate for that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
For me, I can't relate to the lunatic left. So
if you're there and you love criminals, please explain that
to me. Please map that out.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How Kylie Burst doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Her feeling safe doesn't matter, her feeling threatened doesn't matter,
restraining order doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We're gonna go mis themeter on this and not have.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Any kind of real deterrent from this guy doing it
again and it escalating, because that's what happens. I've seen
enough Forensic Files episodes, I've seen enough Dateline NBC episodes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know where this goes and how it gets.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
There with this out of control, out of his mind
crazy person.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Five seven seventy three nine. That is the text line.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We'll take this time out, send it to.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
This Texas, says Ted Cruz. I got to read it.
In the Michael Bennett viice like.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
The real Ted Cruz. Really, I can't wait too, Yeah,
the real Ted Cruz. The genuine article even pretended to
know who I am. But you'll hear that coming up
in about twenty five minutes. You're listening to Ryan Shuling Live.
We're back after this. Senator Ted Cruz still to come.
(29:28):
Talk about an A list guest and just as important
from our perspective, locally Representative Gabe Evans will be joining
us at the.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Bottom of the hour in the three pm slot.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
This from a close confidant of mine, frequent guest on
the program and fill in host for Dan Kaplis quote.
What was missed is that he was caught eighteen months apart.
How many times did he violate that restraining order that
she didn't know about or at least law enforcement wasn't
informed about. And who draws that arbitrary line in the
(29:59):
sanate teen months? Not it's a misdemeanor. So I decided
to bring him on and he graciously agreed to do so.
Is that connected the dots here? Sheriff Steve Riems joining
us on Ryan Schuling Live. Sheriff, thanks for your time,
your input, not sure about how much of what you've
heard regarding the case and the stalker of meteorologists here
(30:22):
and Kylie Burst, but just your initial reaction, Well.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
This is very typical of what you're seeing in the
criminal justice system. You know, I say all the time,
elections have consequences, and Governor Polus is responsible for the
appointment of judges, and we've had Democrat governors in place
for quite some time. We've got a liberal bench, and
I think what you're seeing is a reflection of that.
(30:47):
These stocking cases are scary because these people, you know,
they continually devolve as they're going through these stalking issues,
So you know, you pointed out each one of these
can be more and more dangerous. And there's no telling
how many times you know he was watching her or
following her and she just wasn't aware. He got caught
(31:07):
eighteen months apart. But these things are extremely serious, but
apparently the courts don't see it the same way.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He is currently the sheriff of Wild County. He is
running for Wild County Commissioner. Steve Reims our guest. The
one thing that I would feel, and I'm sure you're
right there lockstep with me sheriff, because you and I
share so much in common in terms.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of how we view the world.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
If I was the sheriff, if I was the detective,
if I was the DA, the assistant DA, they gave
her that kakammy excuse for dropping it down to a misdemeanor.
I could not live with myself if my decision led
to anything happening to her. I'd never be able to
clear my conscience, could you now?
Speaker 10 (31:43):
And that's something that we've preached with every law enforcement
monster that works in my agency, is hey, you go
lazy on this case, and they can have huge ramifications
for the victim or potential victims. Yeah, you got to
take every case extremely serious, and you know, the judges
and prosecute have to look at it the same way.
And I don't know how they got to the end
(32:04):
on this one with you know, knocking this guy's charges down.
He's obviously a threat. But again, elections have consequences. We
get bad judges, we get bad prosecutors at times, and
like you said, before moves to Weld County.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I've got to reach out to Kylie and tell her
exactly that because she'll be protected, it'll be life will
be better in every single way conceivably in Weld County,
or it would be in Doug Cooe as well. But
to that point, Sheriff, I'm a big fan of the
scientific method. You've got a constant, you've got a variable
you've got to control in the experiment, and then you
do the experiment. If Denver, which is absolutely crazy, is
(32:40):
the experiment, Let's use Weld County as the control. Let's
just replay this entire scenario as best as you can
kind of outline it for us. If this exact same
thing happened to Kylie Burst and she was in Weld County,
how would this have gone down?
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Well, you know, on the arrest side, probably very similarly.
I mean, we're going to show up, you know, we're
gonna get there as fast as we can on a
call like that and take the person in the custody,
you know, take them to jail, put forth an affidavit
before the courts. I think where this would change in
Well County is that you have a prosecutor's office, a
District attorney's office with Michael Rourke our DA who does
(33:18):
take these cases very serious. They're going to go to
the n's degree to try to bring justice, justice to
this person. And you know, we also have a process
in Welld County where if judges are failing victims, we
let the public know. We don't hide from that. I
have a released report on my website webshriff dot com
where people can go and see who's being released each day,
(33:41):
which judge set the bond, and what the bond was
that they set for that individual, because I want people
to be able to hold folks accountable. And you know,
again in Welld County, I think this turns out differently,
but you never know. With certain judges, you just never know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Sure, less than a minute left, real quick here, have
you ever heard of anything like this that there'd be
a statute of limitations or a time period between violations
of a restraining order that suddenly render it moot.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Nothing set in stone. It is a judgment call, and
that's why it's important. That's who appoints to judges.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Sheriff Steve Reems he is departing that position and will
be running is running for Will County Commissioner Sheriff. Next
time you have a big event, I promised to be there.
Just let me know what it is, okay, all right,
Sheriff Steve Rems always given us the law enforcement side
of things. And again short bit of advice to Kylie
Burst move out of Denver like Bob Seeger saying about
(34:38):
get out of Denver because you look just like a
comedy and you might just be a member well count here,
Doug Coe, that's the best I can do for you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Kylie hoped to have her on the program soon.
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