Saturday Morning Open Phones HR2 7-12-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six' ten WTV. Ed this Is Open. Foods I'm Zachary
Schwartz filate did for. Boots the number as always to
call six foot four eight two one nine eight eight
six six foot four eight two one w TV. Ed
we Got, Paul Michael ransom and some others on. Hold hang,
On i'll get to you in a. MOMENT i just
want to go over real. Quick What Mayor ginther said

(00:23):
over The july fourth weekend in regards to the Shooting
Dependence stay weekend AND i, Apologize, yeah, sorry who was?
THAT i forget the, Call. DENNIS i believe our model
training a model. Trainer i'm, Sorry, dennis if you're listening
TO i. Apologizes. Uh, anyway Over july fourth week and

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there was a party and a seventeen year old was
shot dead and five people were. Injured the definition for
a mass shooting change is depending on who you talked.
To but there there was a shooting and people got
hurt and someone lost their. Life of, that that's. Terrible
AND i understand that every city has problems in violence

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to varying. Degrees it's sad in, heartbreaking BUT i have
to Say Mayor ginther's idea for curbing violence when it
comes to this is. BRILLIANT i, mean when a shooting
takes place at a, party what's the first thing you
think about in terms of trying to solve the? Problem?
Right it is it gun? Control is? It? It forese

(01:29):
the laws that we already have on the? Books what
makes sense listening to the police and getting out of their. Way,
Well Mayor ginther came out and, Said i'm going to
follow the best. Practices i'm going to listen to the
police and do what makes. Sense and what did he
come up? With what was his answer to stopping violence

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and shootings And Columbus, Columbus it's to limit party sizes
and regulate vacation home rentals because that's going to. STOP
i mean anytime There's chicago used to have a bad
problem with, violence and they just curbed airbnb rentals and
things got a lot. Better it doesn't make any. Sense

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it makes about as much sense as When ginther banned
hot dog vendors after ten o'clock in The short And
north last year to curb gun. Violence it's like duck
hutting with a. Rake. NOW i don't Know gentther, personally
AND i pose this question before does he really believe
in what he's. Saying is he just making a statement
because he has to make a statement and just moves

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on with his. Day no one in the right mind
can believe that that makes. Sense and how in the
world can you prevent somebody from renting a vacation hover
an Airbab how are you going to figure that? Out
is it by, race by? Age? What it's a meaningless
statement that does. Nothing all he should have said was

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this is a, tragedy and my office here to support
the police and let them do their. Jobs if he
actually is going to try to limit party, sizes now
we have police out there who could be dealing with
incredibly more important issues in emergencies that are just going
to be going around town counting how many people might
be at a. Party it's ridiculous and quite, frankly just

(03:22):
kind of. Stupid just just get out of the, way
don't say anything to let the cops do. There let
the cops do their. Job line, One, paul how are
you my?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Friend good good?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Morning how are.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
You i'm, Okay i'm, okay still early for, me But i'm.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Okay well A i wanted to. Say Jeffrey epstein it's
the funniest thing in the. WORLD i know what he
did with the human. TRAFFICKING i knows what he's done with,
children and that's that's. TERRIBLE i, mean we could have
put them in a wood chipper and you wouldn't have

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bothered me a.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
BIT i don't think that WOULD i don't think that
would bother most. People that's the one thing above any
other crime that people, go that's, okay we can get
rid of.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Them, Yeah AND i try to keep it limited on
the radio in case kids are listening. Anyway but the
biggest part Of Jeffrey epstein that no one. UNDERSTANDS i
still think he's a massad, agent and it is what it.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Is it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Matter but the point of the story is nobody ever
looks at his financial. Background the man never graduated from, college,
Right And i'm not saying now, now hold. On there's
a lot of very successful, people a lot of very
very rich people that never went to. COLLEGE i don't
mean that by WHEN i say, That but at the same,
time you, know, personally if you look into his financial

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background and look him, UP i personally think he was
almost solely responsible for the two thousand and, eight nonsense
that we went through that basically almost it wasn't really a,
depression but it was the. Largest THE us government spent
thirteen trillion dollars around that amount in two thousand and

(05:02):
eight to try to bail out the world in The
United states because of all.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
This, yeah it was a great. Recession it wasn't a,
depression but, yeah yeah it. Was but as far as that's, step,
YEAH i look before you go on the he without
the degree. Thing his first job was teaching college out
of sixty thousand a year private school and he had no.
Degree that doesn't, Happen it could not. Happen it's just
everything about him is.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Bizarre, WELL i THINK i think The Dalton school is
actually a high, school but you're, right in twenty twenty four,
dollars it's seventy thousand dollars a year, now and he
never had he never had a teaching. Degree AND i,
mean it's just the weirdest. Thing and then and then
when he left that, job he gets hired at Beer stearn's,
right within four years he's a limited, Partner, like how

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does that make?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Sense that doesn't happen in Any you couldn't write if
you wrote a book and had. That that's that Is MICHAEL.
J fox and secret of my. Success it's not reality.
Based it doesn't makes.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well and then one more, Thing zach And i'll leave you,
alone and that is. Wonderful but the last Thing i'm
going to tell you IS i said this on this
show for a long time. Now i've called in a
couple of. Times but the world is. Changing and WHEN
i say the world is, changing what's going? On mark
called in. EARLIER i Like, MARK i really like his.

(06:22):
Comments but at the same, time except for Giving ukraine nuclear,
weapons there is no. Stop there's nothing you're going to.
Do there's nothing the world is going.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
To do Against.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Russia look at The hoodies this. Week they sunk two
ships in forty eight hours and they still fire ballistic
missiles At. Israel look At iran and What iran did
is the world is changing and the technology, today like
with somebody called in last week about the drone Show
Red white And, boom which was. NEAT i liked.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
It yeah we GOT.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I go, ahead, okay, okay do me a. Favorite get
on YouTube and look Up chinese drone.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Show Oh i's spectacular watch.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Joking, yeah see you. Brother, yeah all, right have a.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Good, one six ted wtv ed open. Foods we shall
be right.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Back.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Zachary schwartz filleted for, boots open, foods six ted wtv
Inn and we're just going to get right into it
because the people have been holding for quite a. Bit
and what are those people was? Ransom? Ransom how are you?
Man thanks for holding, On thanks for. Listening, yeah good.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
One and zach And, ella thanks for having the holding
the fort down for boots so that we can express
our opinion in the greatest country in the. World.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Absolutely, yeah three points for, you.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Sure one is THAT i have been in two communist
countries in my. Life nineteen eighty FOUR i went To
rush with a singing group and we smuggle bibles into
The Soviet. Union those people were holding Those Russian bibles
like they were. Gold and THEN i was a flight

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attendant for TWA i was In berlin and the late
nineteen eighties AND i was At Checkpoint, charlie AND i
was at the wall between the free, side the western
side and the eastern. SIDE i saw The german, guards
The german, shepherds the bubb, wire the moot separating everyone

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and they tried to ump. Over and for those of
you out there who do not Appreciate america and the
freedoms we have and have never been to a scene communism,
TWICE i would suggest that you'd be thankful that you
live in this. Country if you don't like, it you
can certainly, leave but you'll never find anything better than

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The United.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
States, ransom how long were you in, well back then
it was The Soviet? Union how long were you in?
There and what what was it like kind of on
a day to day? Basis were you allowed to do
anything you? WANTED i, Mean i'm just.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Curious, yeah, Yeah, WELL i was part of a, group
a singing. Group we went Through, helsinki and we had
been doing concerts all Over, finland and then we went
in this. Tourist we were in The Soviet union for
a couple of weeks and our whole goal was to
meet with the Underground. Church we had a contact over,

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there and we went in this tourist and we saw
all the stylin things and all the propaganda and all
that kind of, stuff and me being the rebellious, one
you're not supposed to take any photographs of, anything AND
i took photographs of everything and then when they processed
our you, know our stuff going, out all my film was,

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destroyed so they they made sure that there wasn't a
lot of it left SO i could show to.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
The americans that Was that was The gorbachev was the leader.
Then SO i, mean, yeah how did you get the the?
CONTACT i, mean you don't have to go all the
way into, it BUT i mean we. Don't The internet
wasn't around back, then so making contacts in a communist
country would have to be.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Tough, well we had kind of, well the guy that
formed the all the, groups they had groups that went
all around the world and they shared gospel presentations and
basically he had developed contacts through you, know he was
A lutheran pastor and he had this world vision to
send young people all over the world and to share the.

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Gospel and the most risky group was of course The Soviet,
union and they prayed over us.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Because they weren't sure.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
We were going to get, out and they, said you,
know if you don't get, out they'll send you To
siberia and then we'll do what we can do to
try to get you. Out but it was it was
kind of scary, time but we we Saw, god you,
know work and do some miracless. Things and, uh the
fact THAT kgb was following, us that was that was
something like al of A James bond.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
MOVIE i was going to, say if you're in, there
they have to be following, you so if they know
that you're, there so they don't just let anybody.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
In and willy, nilly, yeah they came. Back they they
came to the spot we were. At we had A
russian translator and we just played. Stupid and then basically
when the underground, church they scattered like. Rats and then
when we were going, out they made us drive over
a grate and they went down with machine guns with

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the idea that if anyone was underneath the bus that
we had, trying you, know hauling people, Out they're going
to shoot.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Them but that didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Happen but WHEN i got TO, JFK i got down
the tarmac AND i kissed the, ass AND, i you,
know never appreciated and to this Day i'm sixty, FIVE
i still Appreciate america And i've.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Been around the world with the.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Airlines but my other two points were real, quick was
that the frustration that we've got in the country right
now is that we don't have anybody telling the, truth
not The, republicans The, independents or The. Democrats and so
it really comes down to you AND i on the, local,
state and federal, level we have to hold these politicians

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and wallmakers to a higher. Standard and then the last
point a half for you is that in The, bible
when the children Of israel are always the rebellious Towards,
God god just let them have their way with their,
sin and they were always being, devastated and then they
would come to their senses and they would, repent and
Then god would come back and heal their. Land and

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that's SOMETHING i suggest that we do In america according
to The Second chronicles in, fourteen because we have a
mess right now and until the, hearts we're not going
to see all the things really want in our. Country
BUT i do appreciate you guys giving us freedom to
speak On, saturday And god bless you Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Ransom you have a good. ONE i appreciate. IT i
think more to his second point about if you really
want to affect change of The United, states one are
the the best ways to do it is on your local,
level regardless of your. Politics you want to get involved
in your city. Council you want to get involved in

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things on a local, level and that's how you build a.
Base if you want to change things and you send
an email or write a letter to your senator or
young that's. Great but if you really want to affect,
change you have to get out there and maybe run
for school, board run for your local city, council run
for mayor if you're in a smaller town or, comptroller

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it doesn't. Matter that's how change is affected and on local,
levels and then it gets more and, more bigger and
bigger as the change that you're looking for can. Happen
and now with The, internet you can advocate for things.
Online we got a minute and a half before the. Break,

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michael how are, you? Brother, Oh i'm.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Doing, Good SO i only have a minute and a.
Half minute and a. Half, oh, JEEZ i can hold
over if you're willing to do. That i've got some
very extensive information about The epstein. Situation here's the, story
Though paul just touched on the tip of the. Iceberg

(14:45):
Mister epstein is a made. Man he was hired and
made by one individual From, Columbus, ohio and unfortunately this
person he doesn't get named too. OFTEN i don't know
if people are afraid or but, yeah there's limited information
on victorious. Secret everybody needs to do some. Research With

(15:10):
Mega group m e. G A, mega don't confuse it
With Mega mega. Group and this is a group of
billionaires Including Leslie wexner And Charles BRAMFEMAN i think is
his first, Name. Charles they created This Mega group to
influence public policy and foreign policy In american, government and

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Mister epstein was basically given a free reign over Mister
wexner's monetary. Investments And Jeffrey epstein had no college. Degree Bill,
barr Former Attorney. General his dad is the one who
Hired Jeffrey epstein to work as a math teacher at

(16:00):
A Dulton school In New. York jeffrey had no college,
degree and yet he was hired to teach math at
The Dalton, school a very prestigious school where wealthy people
send their children to be educated by an uneducated. Pedophile
he had to be removed from that school because of his.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Females, actually, yep, yep, right but.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
HEY i just also wanted to Say dennis was talking
About july Fourth Independence. DAY i like to refer to
it as insurrection. Day that's what we. Need we need
another insurrection day In america Because Donald trump is. Compromised Pam,
bondi Former Florida Attorney, general. Compromised she tried to force

(16:49):
FEED us red flag laws in the state Of florida
to control people owning. Guns and this didn't fly very good.
Here so we know all About Pam. Bondi Hopefully Cash
patel And Dan bongino will resign and either force her
to resign or they will. Resign, yeah we'll.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
See it's it's it's there That i've Heard danna.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Victorious secret uh and limited. Information that's what you need to.
Understand Lenley wexner Made Jeffrey. Epstein Bob satrachis did a
report on it in The Columbus free Pet press years
and years. Ago he was on.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It so, thanks, yeah, yeah don't worries. Again we're up against.
It but you what you said wasn't wasn't. Untrue there
was a lot of things About Leslie wexner that Is,
uh it's a little bit. Odd Jeffrey epstein was one
of his right hand men before he passed. Away But
mark stay on the line will be back right here
on six TED wtv in open fanes six TED wtv

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And zachary word it's filted For. Boots the number is
always six one four eight two one nine eight eight
six six four eight two ONE. Wtvn thank you To
emily for guiding the ship. Today. Again we very much appreciate.
It and uh gotta GET i got. It got to
get right to the. Fodes uh Because mark has been

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on for a really long time AND i appreciate. It
thanks for. Listening and how's it going? Today?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Fine how are? You i'm?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Okay so last WEEK i Told boots THAT i would
have two poems ready every, week one from the past
and one for a new. One.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
OKAY i didn't hear from you. Today, YEAH i was,
like where is the? Poem?

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Guy all?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Right well HERE i am. Okay so the repeat poem
is a who is it? Poem it's Called it's two
minutes and fifteen seconds. Long it's called who is this poem?
About And i'll give it the answer when we're, done all.
Right the Hero the hero in twenty five works of
film stemming from thrilling spy novels penned By Ian, fleming

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impeccably tailored and sharp as a. Quill his DOUBLE o
means he is licensed to. KILL a key chain with
stun gas was one of the gadgets he used in
the service of m and her. Majesty he had to
stop villains with schemes vile and bold to kidnap a

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spaceship or steal the world's. Gold they all sought to kill,
him but they were Repelled Auric, Goldfinger ernst Stavro, blofeld
doctor no mister big Comel con two Rosa kleb with
that poisonous spike in her. Shoe the villains had henchmen

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to help in their, cause a methyl toothed killer whose
nickname Was, jaws and Odd, job a chauffeur so dangerous
that he beheaded a step with his bowler. Hat our
hero played craps With Miss plenty O'Toole before she was
picked up and tossed in the. Pool he met an

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assassin in a jacuzzi played by the Hot Luciana. Paloozi
his female companions were, classy not Wonky Diana Rigg Donnielli,
bianchi but few of his, consorts and maybe not, any
could rival the style of the cool, money penny to,

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ladies quite charming to bad, guys quite. Ornery seven actors
have played, him Including Sean. Connery the drink for adults
that he strongly preferred a vodka martini that's, shaken not.
Stirred and the, answer of, course is what do you.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Know i'm going to go ahead and take a guess.
Here i'm not. Sure Jeffrey apps.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Close A James bond's.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah all, Right so the new poem. Zact today's
new poem is dedicated to every deasoned citizen who has
ever tried to relive their youth in the area of.
Sports the poem is one minute and twenty five seconds,
long and it's called a man or a mouse all?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Right hit my.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Son my son AND i went to the. Pool he,
said a water. Slide how? Cool, Hey, dad let's give
the slide a. TRY i am not, sure was my.
Reply my son, Said, dad we must be, bold and
you're not ninety five years. OLD i spied the tower

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in the. Sky it was at least eight meters, high
with water rushing down the. Slide sharp turns make it
a scary. Ride the kids screamed wildly till they. Crash
into the depths with a big. Splash my boy was
challenging my. PRIDE i had to dig down deep. Inside

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why should arthritis and attacks of carpal tunnel hold me?
BACK i knew that he might tell my spouse his
manly dad is just a. Mouse but with my sword
joints and my, pills a victory no longer. Thrills i'll
tell you WHY i chose to walk. AWAY a coward

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lives to swim another. Day the, End, WELL i got.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It the OLDER i, get the less SPORTS i play
even THOUGH i. Try but things thigs are starting to
hurt WHERE i didn't know that they could hurt. Before so, Oh,
zachary have a great. Day thank, you thanks for calling. It,
YEAH i appreciate. It thank You sis to HAVE Wtv Open.
Foods we'll be right back with six to TED. WTVN

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i Am Zachary. Schwartz i'm affiliated For boots on The
open Pod show. Today it's a pleasure to be with
you this past couple of. Hours number always to call
it a six foot four eight two one nine eight
eight six six foot four eight two ONE. WTVN i
have some things That i'd like to get out of
the way before the show, ends if we can get to.

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Them what is a? Debate what is an? Argument and
why are we so quick to label people certain, things especially,
online when it comes to a debate or an, argument
and why it's kind of ruining what a real debate
is In american politics today and how things have just

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devolved into basically just people arguing and not actually having no.
Debate but before, that we Have rick on the. Line,
rick how are, you my? Friend good?

Speaker 6 (23:58):
MORNING i didn't REALIZE i was tuning in to it
to a to a show Called Doctor Zach, WELL i,
Apologize i'm just kidding more on the MORE. A, yeah
this is meant to be.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
A little bit.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Sarcastic but you probably saw not long, Ago trump floated
out something about hosting a what A ufc match on
The White house Long, uh.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, YEAH i did see. That they called. It oh,
goodness people online were calling it something like the THE
dromp and the swamp or. SO i can't. Remember it
was really, funny BUT i.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Can't you, KNOW i don't follow those, things BUT i
can only imagine how much they will charge to watch
that stream.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It oh and then it's enough anyway right?

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Now and then Considering trump's, Family now this is meant
bad none is a bad. Thing but Considering trump's uh
family involvement in digital and, crypto they'll probably they'll probably
require you to buy the ticket with A trump gold,
coin and then he'll and then he'll promote. It he'll,

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Say i'm going to end that. War i'm going To
putzki and put. Together wouldn't that be a?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Fight, yeah that'd be a lot of money would be.
MADE i, KNOW i Know putin does. Judo he's what
is he about seventy? Now BUT i know he did
judo at some martial. ARTS i don't think he's.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
What, YEAH i know, ANYWAY i would just all meant
to be a little, bit a little bit less serious
if you take, it it.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Would be it would be quite, interesting to say the.
Least some people would definitely lose their mind. Though yeah for.
Sure all, Right, rick have a good. One AS i
was talking to, earlier debate labels and, ARGUMENTS i see
a massive problem in the political discourse in The United

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states when it becomes an argument and not a. DEBATE
i see this ON. TV i see this on radio
shows where people want to have an argument and they
don't want a, debate and people want to label you
so they can negate anything that you say. Afterwards once

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they are able to label, You, now what's the difference
between a debate and an. Argument an argument is when
two people are just trying to. Win they're trying to
make themselves feel better about. Themselves they're trying to make
the other person look. Stupid they're trying to make their

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biases seem more important or the right way at looking at.
Things the debate is when two people engage in conversation
to see who is, right who is wrong and with
you have a debate with, somebody you might just end
up finding out a long held idea that you have

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might be. Wrong and that's when people turn things from
a debate into an. Argument if you find out you're
wrong about, something that's. Okay that's a good thing you.
Learned no matter who the other person you're. Debating through,
debate you can learn and know about people from a

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different political identity than. You debate could be everything when
it comes to personal, growth when it comes to finding
out more about yourself politically and a way to look
at things from a different. Perspective even if you don't
end up agreeing with. It once it devolves into an,
argument that all goes. Away there's something WHAT i used

(27:43):
to debate people a lot online and people who THAT
i know by personal circle of. Friends we would debate
different issues just for. Fun AND i found one of
the key things about debate people as if you find
yourself getting mad and upset during a, debate the first

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thing you should do is ask, yourself why is the
other person being made? Rude or are they labeling? You
or is it just maybe because you're wrong and you
don't want to admit, it and they, Do you, deflect
and then you get, mad and then you start name,
calling and then you start labeling. People the labeling thing

(28:27):
is really. Bothersome also the use of labels, politically for,
instance how many people on social Media, FACEBOOK x or
whatever have you seen Called Donald trump a? Fascist you
see it all the. Time he's A, nazi he's a.
Fascist if If Donald trump was a, fascist you publicly

(28:50):
speaking out Against Donald trump would negate your whole, point
because if he was a, fascist you wouldn't be able
to speak out against him in any, way shape or.
Form how many people on social media have you seen
been called a communist simply because they're not maybe right a.
Center it happens on both. Sides it happens ON, tv
it happens on, radio AND i find it. Annoying there

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is a famous radio host who's passed away who often
repeated the, phrase folks words mean. THINGS i can't do an.
Impression but that was supposed to be rush.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
LIMBLE i.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Digress if we have a tough, time next TIME i
do this, show we will go through different terms at
what they mean and why they aren't. Helping when it
comes to the political discourse in The United, states when
you're talking to somebody online or, whatever or you're listening
to a debate and one of the people starts labeling

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the other, people it's a white. Flag it's them giving,
up because once you label, people they can negate anything
that you say or the other person is saying. Afterwards
if you, know IF i call you a, liberal than
anything you say after that or any point you make after,
THAT i could simply, say well that's what a liberal would.
Say or, worse once somebody labels, you they feel it's

(30:10):
okay to use guilt by association arguments like IF i
call you a, democrat you're somehow responsible for everything A
democrat has ever. Done or if somebody calls me A,
republican they'll, say, well what about this, republican as IF
i am responsible for something that A republican. DID i
think most people can think for, themselves and despite being

(30:33):
A republican or A, democrat most people do not one
hundred percent agree with every Other republican or A democrat
on every single. Issue it's one of the problems with
a labeling people, communist, socialist, anarchist, democratic, socialist, Fascist, Marxism,
marxist all these. Terms they're not. Interchangeable they all mean different.

(30:58):
Things they have very specific, definitions AND i think we
as a people In columbus and The United states around the,
world that we could do better than just throwing these
terms around willy nilly and labeling people as. Such, again
words mean. Things it's easy to throw a label on.

(31:21):
Somebody it's easy to tell somebody that they are if
They if somebody, says you know, WHAT i Advocate medicare
for all or universal health, care they're inevitably going to
be called a, communist which doesn't help, because, again what
you label, people there is no debate after that it

(31:44):
devolves into an, argument and an argument doesn't help anybody at.
All this Is Zach. SCHWARTZ i fill it in For.
BOOTS i want to say thank you To, ella Sorry
emily for holding out. Again appreciate. It