EP 18- Understanding the August special election regarding Ohio's Constitution

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Episode Transcript

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Well, I always like Jack whenwe get a brand new guest on Saving
Liberty as someone that I've worked withbefore in the radio business. As a
matter of fact, Election Night twentytwenty two, she was in here with
me and Bob Clegg. I rememberthat we just did. Last episode was
with Bob. But she is astrategist, attorney, small business owner,

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and media contributor for Americans for Prosperity. Ma Heck Cook, Welcome to the
Saving Liberty Podcast. We are gladto have you on. I really appreciate
the opportunity. Thank you. Yeah. And you know, there's a thousand
different things that are going on rightnow and we can I know there's something

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specifically that you're very passionate about thatare going on right now, and I
know Jack wanted to talk to youabout some of those things. So just
tell us a little bit net rightnow what you're working on here, you
know, in all high and beyond. Thanks for the opportunity. I think
the number one issue when I speakfor Americans for Prosperity, it is truly

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to move Ohio forward. I thinkwe are spending so much time on culture
wars and not enough time on thematter and the business of the state.
What we need to be focused onis the future generation our children. School
choice is extremely important. The factthat our children are so far behind and
reading a math is abysmal, andwe have an opportunity to help through school

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choice. In the passage of schoolchoice. We have Republicans in the Statehouse,
some of them that are acting likeRepublicans but are truly passing legislation and
are staunchly against progress in Ohio.And I want to call that out because
I think that as Ohio and weneed to elect individuals that constantly uphold their

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oath and put Ohio first. Thereare a lot of individuals in the Statehouse
today that are not doing that.We need to hold them accountable. The
other issue that's extremely important is makingsure that this budget is for the people
Ohio needs to prosper. We areso far behind in job and economic growth
as well. We have a hugeworkforce gap. We got intel, let's

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all celebrate, but at the endof the day, we can't build those
jobs. So we have a lotof work to do, and we continue
to get bogged down by special interestsand issues that shouldn't be at the forefront.
What matters are What matters is howto get food on the table,
pocketbook issues, our children, andputting our family unit first, and I
think we've lost sight of that.You bring up a lot of fantastic points,

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Mahack, and first of all,thanks for being here. It's great
to talk with you. You saidthat there are some groups in the state
House that are against progress specifically,can you get to the morrow of that
and can we open that up?Sure, it's a great question. We
would have had the most and thestrongest speaker, Speaker Derek Marin, who

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the Republicans initially had put forth asa candidate and who was going to ensure
that we passed Goal Choice, boldtax reform, continued to help in the
justice system, and we had alast minute reversal because a now current speaker
made a deal with Democrats to getpower. And they're twenty two what I

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call foe Republicans and our state Housetoday that traded their principles and their morals,
and every Ohioan that voted for themneeds to take a look at these
individuals and realize that they're truly notRepublicans, are out for themselves and their
out for power. Because when youlook at the House budget today. It
is absolutely despicable. We are notputting our children's first. We're not putting

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our children first, We're not puttingour families first. We're continuing to put
the ball in the Democrat court toallow them to run the state House.
And this is an advancing positive policyor progress in the state of Ohio.
So it's been really disappointing. Iam very optimistic that the Senate, through
President Huffman's leadership, we're going tohave a very bold, robust, balanced,

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thoughtful, and innovative budget that doesput kids back on the map,
that includes reading and mass progress,that allows for school vouchers, that holds
unions accountable, that holds teachers andschool districts accountable. Because right now we
have a mess in our state becauseof the pandemic and the shutdown that we
had that Governor Dwine led. Sothere's a mess in our state today and

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we are continuing to be bobbed downby special interests, outside groups. We
have, as you know, Jack, an August election map because we have
outside groups trying to change our constitution, which is absolutely shocking today. You
know, it's interesting. First ofall, I broke the story on the
eve of that speaker vote, andI talked to probably thirty different lawmakers over

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the holiday, the Christmas holiday,the New Year holiday, and one of
the things that I heard consistently wasthat Jason Stevens made a deal with Democrats
and at the top of that listwas kicking the can down the road or
killing the initiative that would stave offradical abortion efforts from the left. Well,

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as it played out, it seemsto me that that's exactly what happened.
He had a chance to get aresolution out of the House and through
the Senate before February that would haveaverted this August special election. And where
we find ourselves now, and I'mgoing to bring this around the barn to

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what you just said, so justbear with me. Where we find ourselves
now, I think is that wehave this August special election that will require
sixty percent approval to amend a citizeninitiated amendment constitutional amendment in the future.
And that's important for a lot ofreasons, but the most urgent or timely

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or critical is this radical amendment thatis going to be there in November that
would say, essentially that parents don'thave a right in the reproductive decisions of
their children, whether those be abortionsor gender transitioning. And the interesting part
is Jason Stephens said, well,you know I'm doing this. I'm running

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to unite the party. And nowwe look, it's June. The party
doesn't seem united, and it seemslike to me they had a supermajority in
both the Senate and in the House. They didn't need collaboration with Democrats,
and now all of a sudden,they're on the verge of allowing radical agendas

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to transpire and manifest in Ohio onthe watch of a Republican supermajority. So
let's unpack for our listeners what thatsixty percent amendment is and what your thoughts
are on it. So it's reallyimportant for our listeners to make sure that
we vote so that there is ayes vote in August that will allow for

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any changes to the Constitution to bewith a sixty percent vote. Right now,
you can make a change to theConstitution with fifty percent plus one.
And when we talk about a sacretdoctrine like our Constitution and we're trying to
protect it, I think most ofthe business needs to happen at the Statehouse.
That's what we elect our legislature foranything that is critical and needs to

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be changed should require sixty percent ofconstituents to vote on this. And what
we're seeing today in our state,unfortunately, it's happening across America is special
interest groups are coming state by state. So Ohio, we are on the
map and we are next. Weare going and are being attacked by the
ACLU, and you hit it absolutelycorrectly. We have an anti parents amendment

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that is so radical that this groupis trying to allow for up to full
term abortion, painful life altering surgeries, including transgender surgeries of our children without
guardrails. That means that anybody couldallow my son to have a surgery without
my permission. That is absolutely unacceptable. What happened to parental rights? What

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happens a common sense and the amendmentgoes so far as it says an entity.
I don't know what an entity is. What happened to doctors performing surgeries?
So this is written so broadly,our children are in danger. I
think every voter needs to know whetheryou agree or disagree, and you want
to talk about abortion, let's havethat discussion. Let's have it at the

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State House, not in our constitutionwhere our children are going to be the
victim, you know, maheck.I look around the landscape and this rush
is obviously that amendment. And thenand they also appear to be trying to

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cut off recreational marijuana as well.They want to get ahead of that because
it does look like the coalition therefor treating marijuana like alcohol, it does.
You know, they probably are goingto get those signatures that probably will
be on in November, and Ijust I look at that and it just

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is it are those two issues alone, and you laid out exactly why that
first one is diabolical on many levels. But you know, this then could
affect pretty much anything. We couldjust get in a back and forth like
okay, well you put that youwant this bill in here, Okay,

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well we're gonna try to We're gonnatry to get this pass through. It'll
be you know, in twelve sixweeks or twelve weeks abortion cut off.
You know, are you afraid thatthis could get if? If this passes
though, this is just it's goingto be just a constant lobbing and a
volley of back and forth proposals fromboth sides. And it just feels like

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we could end up getting bogged downand confusing voters. You're right, this
is why we need sixty percent ofvoters to vote yes on a constitutional amendment.
And let's not forget minimum wage.There's an amendment out there where they
want to increase minimum wage to fifteendollars an hour. Let me tell you
small businesses cannot afford government or specialinterests dictating how much they pay their employees.

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Because I'll tell you what's going tohappen. We're going to start firing
workers. Small businesses are going toclose. You already have the Restaurant Association
president John Barker stating there were somany closures during the pandemic. You cannot
dictate and force some market to respondin a way that's not natural. Allow
small businesses to pay their employees whatthey're able to. And there are some

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businesses that pay fifteen to twenty dollarsan hour. I apply those businesses.
But this is where unions and outsidegroups should not be dictating to any ohioas
how we conduct business and how weconduct our finances. So yes, there
will be a volley of issues backand forth unless we change the ability in

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the threshold. We need sixty percentof voters to approve a constitutional amendment.
I think we'll be in a betterplace. Our constitution is sacred and it
must be protected, and we needto cut off these special interests. Whether
I agree or disagree with recreational marijuana, that doesn't matter. It just takes
sixty percent of voters before we actuallypass a law and we amend our constitutions.

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Hey, real quick, if inall ironis is the August vote going
to be If it gets fifty plusone, then it becomes sixty Is that
irony? It very very much.So it's going to be a fifty plus
one. And if we have thislow turnout election but are still a bolt
the path with the fifty plus one, then yes, then officially it will

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change the sixty percent and then onwardto the next battle. Well, we
got it. That's going to bethere. That's going to be the key
here, because I already know theleft wing forces are mobilizing, especially on
college campuses. Radical feminist groups areas well, and plus the letter people
activist side of the community, andthey're going to be pushing for that to

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get out. I really, Imean, we got to get a ground
game of making sure, hey,this is really important in the state of
Ohio. Think about this, isthis is important? Is who we're going
to put in the Senate next year, who we're going to put in the
White House in twenty twenty four.I mean, I typically an election like
this it will be like seven percentturnout. I think we've got to get

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those numbers up higher, because Ithink the Left is going to be very
good at mobilizing saying, hey,this is our last chance. If you
do this, that's it. Youknow, we're living in the dark ages
in Ohio for women's healthcare and blahblah blah. Well, forget Republicans and
Democrats. I urge anybody who wantsto protect their children from these out of

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state interest groups that are pushing forlife altering, painful surgeries, and they
want to say in their children's future, to vote against this terrible antiparent amendment.
That's what it comes down to.You can be a Republican or a
Democrat. I guarantee we all careabout our children and we don't want outside
groups dictating painful, life altering surgeries. I can tell you that firsthand.

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As a new mother, I donot want anybody laying a hand on my
child without my consent. One ofthe beefs I've consistently had with progressives in
the left, and frankly, youknow, both parties do it, although
I would say conservatives are maybe lesserof the culprit is mislabeling is being intellectually

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dishonest and calling things something. Forexample, sticking to this matter, one
of the things that I've read byseveral press outlets in the state is that
codifying abortion rights is really all thisNovember ballot initiative is about, which is
what the August special election is goingto cut off essentially, But it's it's

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not about codifying abortion rights. It'sabout radically empowering and empowering kids in children
who would be at the mercy ofa government institution aka social workers, school
guidance counselors, and disempowering parents.So they're not calling it what it is.
And then they say, well,they're making it harder to amend the

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constitution and it's antidemocratic. Well waita minute, no it's not, because
in August people get to go tothe ballot box and decide if that's what
they want. So how aggressive andeffective. Is the group of people opposed
to this radical are they getting thatmessage out there? And is it resonating

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with Ohio? And from where yousit, I think we could do a
better job of getting the message outthere. I think that there's a lot
of confusion. I think that theleft in the ACLU uses this flowery language
which I will not repeat because Irefuse to spread lies. But this truly
is an anti parent amendment and isagainst parents. It is putting our children

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in danger, and I think thatwe need to do a better job in
the media as well. And I'mthankful that this podcast is highlighting what's truly
going on in Ohio. But let'stell the truth because that's not without there.
Today I'm watching signiture collection at BridgePark and so many other venues that
I go to, and they usethe words reproductive rights, access words that

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for the average Ohio and makes sense. But that's not the truth. That's
not what this amendment is about.And we have to get the truth out
there. So as many voice thatcan share what this really is antiparent,
treacherous, terrible for our children,an intrusion, the better we're going to
be. And we have to protectour children. If it isn't a Republican

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our Democrat issue, it is ahuman issue. It's about protecting our future
generation. Now there's a key organizationto your point of getting the message out.
There's a key organization pushing the Ohioabortion ballot initiative. It's called Unite
for Reproductive and Gender Equity URGE.Now URGE, if you know anyone out

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in the press wants to also dotheir homework, is part of Ohioan's for
reproductive freedom. Well, you don'thave to go very far down, you
know, up the stream, Iguess in previous years to see that.
In April, actually they were tweetingthat abortion positive at URGE means celebrating all
abortions, no exceptions. Abortions aregood, abortions are liberating. And then

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they come out and say, well, but this isn't about parents' rights.
We're not trying to take away parents, right. But then you look and
you see URGED tweet April eighteenth,twenty twenty two, and it states it's
unethical for parents' rights to exist andthey must be abolished. So, I
mean, it's insane to me thatyou have groups that are flatly, bluntly

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saying we don't think parents have rights, and then they're denying it, and
it doesn't seem like there's a personin the free press that's out there saying,
oh, wait a minute, no, I'm gonna hold you accountable.
You said that you wanted to stealparents' rights. I'm sorry. I don't
know if there's a question there,but it just fires me up. Hack,
it fires me up. Well,you're right, and thank goodness for

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Protect Women, Ohio. They aredoing exactly what you just said, analyzing
every single statement from the past andexposing the truth because this group is not
about rights. It's about a pressingparental rights. It's about putting parents in
the house, locking the door andtaking our children and performing these awful,

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painful surgeries without our consent. SoProtect Women, Ohio. For our listeners,
I just I hope that you followthem. I hope that you look
at the work that they're doing,because they are spreading the God's honest truth
about what this anti parent amendment isand what it does well, and it's
going beyond just now when it comesto abortion and this transanity as I like

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to call it, and gender confusion. You know, look at schools and
how many teachers you go on TikTokthere are thousands of videos saying parents need
to bug out. I'm the onewith the degrees. Parents shouldn't you know?
It's because it's it's it's the oldLeninist model, the Marxist Leninist model,

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that your children don't belong to you, they belong to the state,
the experts, and yeah, andit is up to the state to decide
what your children learns and to indoctrinatethem and teach them on all that.
And movements like that are half aswell. This is truly about the and
I know I'm going to sound deephere, but I mean, this is

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this is the stuff I think about. Me heck. This is the final
push for the total and complete destructionof the nuclear family that Stalin and Kruscheff
talked about that that's how you destroycapitalism from within, is you once you
take away the nuclear family. Andwe see what that's done in you know,

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unfortunately in the African American community,with broken up households and the chaos
it causes. This is by design, this is purposely being done me heck,
because of them trying to implement basicallytheir quote unquote final uh, their
their final solution to the capitalist problem, to the colonialist capitalist problem. It's

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more. I mean, it's abigger than just a couple of It's bigger
than just abortion and and and transactionactivism. It's literally everything. When it
comes to who has the right toraise your children? And let me tell
you something, there's a scary amountof people in this world who think the
state your children belong to the state. Yeah, over my dead body,

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I've worked way too hard to havemy first son and there is no way
that a state entity, the ACLUor anybody else is going to tell me
how to raise my son or indoctrinatehim. And this is what it comes
down to. You nailed it.There's an identity crisis in America, and
that is why we're struggling today.We forgot what it's like to believe in

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God, to have strong faith,to work hard, to talk about our
family as our identity. We're hardwork with achievement, to talk about merit.
People are lost today. That isthe identity crisis that America is facing.
And there's a huge call for helpin the adults. Some of them
aren't acting like adults, so theyneed to get out of the way and
let parents do what we do best, take care of our children, protect

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them, and rule with common sense, govern our homes with common sense.
And the left they just need endthis because they're not going to win when
it comes to our children. Andthere's not a single parent that I can
think of that is going to saymy child belongs to government. And if
they do, they have lost theirway and they have lost common sense.

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So in the end, basically thesummation when it comes to this is during
that August election, get out,take everybody, you all your friends,
tell them about it, and offerto drive people to polls and make sure
that they get out and they voteyes to raise the threshold for the constitution.
Correct. Correct, absolutely, So, Hey, I want to move

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on because you're so smart, You'reso good at just a multitude of issues.
Tonight, as a matter of fact, as of the recording of this
podcast, we are supposedly forty fiveminutes away from the first voting to begin
on the debts in agreement in theHouse of Representatives in DC. You've sat

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back and you've watched this play out. Where do you come down on the
agreement that Speaker McCarthy made with Bidenand the wine House. Do you understand
why there are people on the rightthat are upset and feel like we gave
in too much? But I justwanted to get your overall take on what's
been happening, because this has beenlike a fight. That is, we

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pushed it to the very very limithere. We did not have much time.
We had what forty eight hours toget this done. Yes, I
mean, I'm deeply disappointed. Thedebt limit deal is far from perfect,
but that's what negotiation needs. Itmeans accepting the imperfect right and Speaker McCarthy's

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leverage was limited. We have oneHouse. That's all Republicans are in control
of today. We have lost theHouse and we have lost the Senate.
So if we want to have morespending cuts and we don't like where Speaker
mccartheys today, nominate a conservative candidatewho can actually win the White House.
That is where we are. ButI think the most important question is the

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death ceiling has been raised seventy eighttimes since nineteen sixty under both Republican and
Democrat presidents. The question is howdid we get here? We've had needless
wars Iraq. We spent seven hundredand eighty seven billion dollars. We have
inefficient bureaucracy, we have sailing programs, We have the Government Accountability Office that

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publishes every four years a list ofprograms that are vulnerable to fraud, waste
abuse in this management, and guesswhat, we don't do anything about it.
So we have to constantly ask ourselves, how did we get here?
And what could we have done withthis money? What could we have spent
it on? How much richer wouldAmerica be today if we had spent correctly,

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what would we have up those billionsof dollars on? And at the
end of the day, I hopethat we can reach an agreement. This
isn't ideal, but this should motivateRepublicans to win the White House. That
is where I am so. SpeakerMcCarthy made a small step in negotiation.
It's better than nothing, and I'lltake it. At this point, I
can understand where Republicans are upset,But those same Republicans that need to get

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up off their cares and make surethat we have a strong Republican nominee that
can win the White House in twentytwenty four. Do you think that McCarthy
actually, let me read you thisand then I'll ask you the question.
Earlier this month, he tweeted PresidentBiden doesn't think there's a single dollar of
savings to be found in the federalgovernment's budget. He'd rather be the first

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president in history to default on thedebt than to risk upsetting radical socialists who
are calling the shots for Democrats rightnow. That to me appeared to be
the line in the sand that ifBiden's negotiators crossed by not agreeing to cut
spending, would result in a stalemate, government shot down, and uncertainty regarding
whether the United States government could payits bills. So McCarthy makes that statement

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and kind of puts a line inthe sand. Then he goes and negotiates.
And it doesn't appear to me thathe went back to the caucus,
or at least caucus leaders, andsaid, hey, all right, let's
huddle up. Here's what we didlast round, here's what they're offering,
here's where we are, Because itseemed to me, as this leaked late

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Saturday, a lot of people weredisappointed and surprised. Do you think he
could have done a better job ofall one don't tweet that if you're not
going to stand behind it in twodo you think he kept his soldiers abreast
and apprised of what was going onminute by minute. I don't think it's
easy to keep anybody abreast minute byminute because you're dealing with Joe Biden.
But let's be honest, McCarthy,back is up against the wall. What

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he is saying is if Biden's notwilling to negotiate, then we're going to
be at a standstill. Biden didnegotiate. It's not what we want to
be, but he did have capson some government stunning over the next two
years. He's beating up the permittingprocess for energy projects, which is so
important. We're clawback there's a clawbackfor unused COVID nineteen funding that's important.

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And the other thing that Republicans havebeen pushing for is introducing work requirements for
food aid programs that our Americans arequalifying for. These are all steps in
the right direction. And again theRepublicans that are upset, hey, I'm
right there with you. Win theWhite House, put up a candidate that
can actually beat Joe Biden, becausethat's where we are today. We can

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continue to point fingers at McCarthy orany leader, but we haven't done a
good job. We haven't won theWhite House, we lost the Senate after
being overly aggressive and overly optimistic.We didn't put in the hard work,
and now we want to blame theSpeaker of the House when his back is
up against the wall. I don'tagree with the Republicans today that are pushing

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back on this. Yes, it'snot a perfect deal, but that's what
a compromise is when you're in thelosing party, and that's where we are
today. That's the reality. Ihear you, and it reminds me of
a Congressman, Jim Jordan, who'schairman of the powerful Judiciary Committee. Back
when McCarthy was scrapping to be speaker, someone said, well, you know,
Jim Jordan ought to and he said, huh, I don't want that

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job. It's a thankless job.It's a no win situation. But you
hit some key points. It clausedback and estimated thirty billion dollars and unspent
COVID funds. It ends the moratoriumon student loan payment suspension. It does
one of the key things that Ithink JD. Vance. Senator JD.
Vance from Ohio wanted, which isit expedites the permitting process, which is
going to exponentially speed up, youknow, project work in the country.

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It does require able bodied results,adults without dependence and not on medicaid seeking
federal assistance to do some job seekingand work. It fully funds medical care
for veterans. But here's the otherkey point. So those are good,
what do you say to people likeme, you're a business owner. I'm
a business owner. Look, wegave the IRS eighty plus billion dollars in

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what was called the Inflation Reduction Act, which is, by the way,
a misnomer, but we didn't reallycut into that at all. That concerns
me when I look at the weaponizationof the DOJ, whether it's the FBI,
whether it's the CIA or the IRSunder Obama, I look at that
and go, hey, they're gonnaknock on my door in the next year

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or two because you know, Ididn't follow the formula and I spoke out
against the government. How do youappease Republicans who are still peeved about that.
So I think in terms of theIRS, they did shift some funding
away, and what the White Houseis saying is they don't want to undercut
tax enforcement, but the inflation reductionto act with such a loser for the

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American people, and at this pointwe just have to chip away. We
need to figure out our small win. This is going to be, in
my opinion, a two year freezeon spending and where we are, and
then when we get a strong Republicansthat puts America Firth back in the White
House. All of this again,it's going to take time. All of

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this is going to be history.We're going to go back to the same
irs levels that we had. Asa small business owner, I don't need
the IRUs knocking on my door becauseI'm following the law. But we are
at such a critical juncture in ourcountry today that the world is not going
to end if we don't reach adeatlin we don't reach negotiations. But I
do think for America to move forward, when you get back to the people's

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business, we need to pass somereform that shows Republicans and the American people
that there is hope because right now, looking at the deficit, looking at
where we are in terms of spendingthe war in Ukraine, I'm not a
loss I don't know what this countryis doing, but we're working against Americans.
And we'll kind of end everything onthis because you've mentioned the White House

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con let's put an American first,conservative Republican back in the White House for
going there, Josh. So herewe are. This is as of May
thirty first, when this is beingrecorded. You've got the two front runners,
the heavyweights DeSantis and Trump. TimScott, who I think will make

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an excellent vice presidential candidate, andI found it interesting that he was the
only one Donald Trump did not trashwhen he entered the race. And lately,
I think there's been some pushback onsome of the things that Presidents Trump
is saying and doing social media wise, and not focusing more on how to

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fix the issues, how to getus back to where we were. I'm
just curious. You know, MikePence is now going to announce next week.
Chris Christie declared today, you've gotNicki Haley still there, that Roma
Swamy. I mean, this fieldis getting more crowded. How do you
see this fight playing now? Andbecause I feel like that there's this is

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going to have to be a carefuldance because you don't want to alienate any
You know, if you're Ron deSantists, you don't want to alienate Trump
voters, diehard Trump voters, youknow. And quite frankly, there's some
people that think, you know,Trump, if he provokes the Santists,
then then the Santists might come outlooking worse than him. I just this

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is going to be one of themost fascinating Republican primaries ever, and I
just wanted to get your thoughts onit. It is and I think we
said this last time when Trump wasentering politics. What's interesting is I want
to point out that the GOP isa party of free market competition and economics
and politics. We have new wehave all choices running, we have tested

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leaders, we have visionaries, andwe have a lot of ideas being discussed
and debated. The face of theGOP is a beat diverse, conservative and
forward looking. And I can pointout one thing that is very evident.
The face of the Democrat Party isJoe Biden. So whether it's Hailey,
who was a successful governor appointed byTrump to the un held dictators accountable her

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personal story as the American story,or it's Rod de Stantis as our nominee
because he has been forward thinking leaderin Florida or its President Trump again.
I mean, we have a lotof strong candidates, and I think we
need to celebrate that the GOP isa vision for the future when we compare
it to what the Democrats have.So what I'm hearing from me, head

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Cook is you will be comfortable withany one of those because they've all proven
their conservative credentials. Even though Iremember Chris Christie running around like a maniac
advocating for masks, I feel likehe's going to have to apologize a Mintie
was wrong on that. But yeah, I don't think I ever said Chris

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Christie's name than that, But Ido think thank you by the way,
it would have activated my gag.Reflects for cabinet positions. Yes, people
running for VP and Chris Christie isinteresting. Um, Chris Christie should just
be running. The man needs torun. Yes, sorry, I digress.
We need to be excited. It'sa good field. It's a crowded

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field. I think we have alot of talent, and when you look
at again the Democrat Party and JoeBiden, it's enough said there me heck,
Cook, your your work here inOhio and beyond is important. You're
you're fighting for the right conservative values. You're doing in it the right way.

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You have a young little child.I've got an eight year old,
of a four year old, anda nine month old. And as a
matter of fact, I'm looking atbeautiful Eva, Grace Jack's daughter, sitting
in the studio right now with us, and this the fight has never been
more impassionate and real to me.Heck, because that just the fact that

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I am a father now of threebeautiful, amazing children, and I lay
awake at night worry and what theirfuture will be. I mean, we've
got to stop the madness now orI'm afraid they won't have much of a
future. And that's why it's importantto have voices like both of you that
continue to spread truth over the misinformationthat's infiltrating Ohio today and much of our

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country. Thank you so much,ma, heck we will, I guarantee
you, we'll talk to you againdown the road. All right, all
right, thank you so much.Thank you.