Ep 21 - The GOP Senate race and Issue 1 in Ohio dominate local politics

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Episode Transcript

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Well, we got a new participantin Jack in the Ohio Senate race.
Things are heating up. Like manyhave speculated for months and months and months
and months that Secretary of State FrankLeRose wanted to run for Senate. Well,
indeed, today as of when thispodcast is being recorded, that was
he announced that he is entering theOhio Senate race. So now we've got

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a three way race. We've gotMatt Dolan, We've got Bernie Marino,
and now we have Secretary of StateLeRose, Warren Davidson, who Congressman Jim
Jordan, who was on the MarkBlazer Show with us today he said,
I was really hoping my friend WarrenDavidson would run for Senate, but he
decided not to. I think hesaw the writing on the wall that other

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people would be in line to getthe Trump endorsement. And once I think
we all agree kind of this isgonna mirror sort of what happened last you
know, a couple of years ago. Last year really feels a couple of
years ago when Jady Vance came waskind of this obscure name, and Josh
Mandel was fighting it out with MikeGibbons, and then boom, he gets

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out in left field, Jade Vancegets the Trump endorsement, and it changed
the complexion of the race. Soto discuss that and plenty more, let's
welcome back to Saving Liberty our oldfriend and really a good dude, Ohio
GOP strategist, Bob Clay, Gooddude. I believe that's on your business
card, isn't it. I thinkit is, Josh. I think I

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think I put that on there awhile again, so I don't know,
let's let's just start. I guaranteeI know you're not surprised in the very
least about Frank Lerose's announcement. Giveus a back, to give us a
little bit of detail on you know, kind of what your thoughts on are,
why he's doing this now, andyou know kind of it just we've

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gone through a crowded GOP field oncebefore, now this one isn't as crowded.
But I'm curious how you think hechanges the complexion of the race.
Well, I think number one,the reason why he's doing this is the
fact that we don't have US Senateseats come up that often here in Ohio.

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So I think he views this asyeah, this is I mean Jade
Vance just one. Obviously last year, jad Vance is around the same age
as frank LeRose, so that seat'snot going to be opening up anytime soon.
So I mean it makes sense you'regoing to run for a seat that
a Democrat, the only Democrat inOhio has, and that's why he's doing

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it. Now. The status ofthe race, I don't think changes all
that much from when we discussed thisa few weeks ago. I think right
now, if you did polling,you would see frank LeRose number one,
Matt Dolan number two, and BernieMarino number three. So I think he's

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jumping in with the idea that hedoes have probably eighty eighty five percent am
id in the state of Ohio.Because Frankly Rose is obviously run twice stay
wide and one handily both times.So I mean, everything pointing in his
mind to run for in twenty twentyfour, So I understand why he's doing

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it. However, as you mentionedearlier, you know there's one big factor
that's hanging out there, and that'swhether President Trump is going to endorse or
not in this race. The CookPolitical Report characterizes this race as a toss
up in twenty twenty four, andyou mean, whichever Republican nominee versus this

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year who, Yeah, whoever goesagainst shared Brown. I think there are
two others. It's Cinema in Arizonaand Mansion in West Virginia and frankly,
Ohio may determine parties in control inthe Senate. And you hit something.
And here my questions coming, Ipromise, uh Pole in June has Larrose

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two points behind, and it hasMarino Um four points behind, and Dolan
won. So Larrose and Dolan arealmost neconnect. Why is Dolan? Why
why is Dolan? Dolan polling sowell? Is that he is he trying
to get the moderate vote? Yeah, Jack, you know, number one,
he just ran last year and spenta lot of months, so he's

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built even though he he you know, hasn't run statewide a lot. He
did run once and it was justlast year. So well, and he
comes from a large market. Hecomes from Cleveland and the family obviously owns
the Indians. So I mean there'sa lot of name awareness around the Dolan

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name and from his family and fromwhat he did last year. So that's
the only reason why he's where he'sat. It has nothing to do with
policy or you know what they said. You know, there's it's it's just
pure name. I d The interestingthing about those numbers that you just rattled

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off was the fact that shared Brownis like mid forties. Okay in all
of those matchups. Well, ifyou're a you know, seventeen year US
Senate incumbent and you're only pulling inthe mid forties against three individuals that are

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all three less well known than you, then you've got a big problem.
I mean, that's the biggest takeawayI get from that from those numbers is
that I don't care which of thosethree are going to be the nominee.
They all can beat him and willbeat them. And in fact, just
echoes what Senator Steve Daines, who'sthe the Senatorial Committee chair, said about

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Ohio just this week. He goes, you know what, I don't lose
any sleep over Ohio because I'm gonnawin with either of those three. Now,
unfortunately for him, he can't saythat about all the states that he's
targeting, but in Ohio, yeah, he's gonna No matter which of the
three is our nominee, they're gonnabe Jared Brown. And that's quite a

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change. I think it was intwenty eighteen when you look at that race
when he ran for Senate? Didhe end? Did Charity anybody run against
him? Jack? I keep forgettingto Share. Yeah? What was his
name? That? Rnacci? Yeah, Jim Nay. I say Ronacci because
I met nothing in that race,which is why nobody knew he was running.

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Jim, I know you listen,and I'm kidding. I say the
name Ronaci. I was on myhoneymoon and of all people, I met
a fraternity brother of Jim Ornacy onthe cruise and it was funny he called
him Nachi. But I digress.I feel bad for Jim because I really
truly believed he could have won thatrace. I do too. There was
that there was no money spent,there was nothing, no p yes,

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exactly, there was no campaign thatI even remember going on. And Shared
dumped a ton of money in thatrace because he knew Ohio was changing even
then. It's gotten even better sincethen. Well yeah, because in that
correct me if I'm wrong. Duringthat election cycle, Dwine won and Shared

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won, but Shared had more votestotal than Mike Dwine had for governor.
And so now fast forward what fiveyears Oh, how the times have changed.
Oh yeah, what's driving that?By the way, if you had
to guess as a strategist, what'sdriving the reddening the further reddening of Ohio,

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I would say a lot of ithas to do not unfortunately, not
like not because of what the RepublicanParty is doing. It's because what the
Democrat Party is doing. And theDemocrat Party has become such a leftist,
you know, socialist party that allthese Democrats up in the Cleveland area,

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Toledo area, Youngstown area that weresolid Democrat twenty years ago don't want to
be identified with the party that wantsto take away parental rights for their children's
education, is backing all kinds oftrans gender issues. I mean, that's
not them. So what's happened isthey've left the Democrat Party and their voting

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Republicans and they loved the message thatDonald Trump set in Ohio both in twenty
sixteen in twenty twenty, and theyidentify with that message and they're now Republicans.
Well, I mean, if youlisten to all the academics and the
media, it's because all the highlyeducated, smart people are moving out of

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Ohio and record numbers and going tomore progressive places. I'm not kidding.
I've read that article twice. Basically, the Dispatch regurgitated the same thing twice.
To me, they got they gotto come up with a reason,
Josh, of why this is goingon. They don't want to talk about
the failed policies of the Democrat Partybecause they're they're they're part of the problem.

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They're the ones. The more theypublicize the stances that the Democrats have,
the more votes they're losing. Themedia is helping us by making sure
everyone knows exactly what these Democrats standfor. We are the elitists, and
we are going to tell you howyou should do it if you listen to
us. The Wall on poverty,we spent trillions of dollars, nothing got

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better. On drugs, we spenttrillions of dollars and nothing got better.
And we had all the COVID policiescorrect too. Listen, we're going to
pontificate more. We're going to tellyou how it ought to be did.
It's like these these people literally trulybelieve, they are convinced that they are
the masters of the universe, thatthey have it figured out that we are

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all just a bunch of rubes andmorons and sheeple and just we need to
go away and let them run thingsbecause that is their bit. It's like
to me, it's like saying,well, I'm God, I was chosen
by God to do. You knowwhen when people get delusional and think that,
I mean, it's it really isscary how much they are so dismissive

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of literally one hundred and fifty plusmillion people in the United States six ten
WTVN Okay, that was weird.That okay, that was weird. So
yeah, yeah, well, youknow, guys, I mean, this

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is the whole thing. I mean, I'm glad they think that, you
know why, because they're too stupidto realize that the stuff that they're saying
out there about the cultural issues orabout economics or about whatever, it's turning
people off. They can't accept that. So they were going to try to
come up with other reasons. We'restupid, we don't know what's best.

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They'll come up with anything, andthis is why they are always shocked when
things happen, like in twenty sixteenwhen Donald Trump won, they were shocked,
and gets what They're going to getshocked again in twenty twenty four.
So that's a good setup. Iknow we're gonna jump over to one other
topic, but since you're talking aboutthe election. I believe Donald Trump is

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going to win the election. Iknow that he's in some polls he's pulling
behind Biden, and other polls he'sleading him by six. But let me
track. We got another whole wegot another whole issue there, and I
know you know this, and that'sthe specter of a third party candidate that's
really gonna throw that election into anupheaval. And that's the Green Party candidate.

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Is that right? Because once he'sinvolved, Yeah, then in these
battleground states, then Trump all ofa sudden, what leads win So I
mean win handling yep, seven pointsI think or something crazy like that.
I mean that's I mean, that'sa gift right there. That I mean,
it's bas it's handing as he getReady, I've seen the Democrats do

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this before. They will work likecrazy to try to prevent that Green Party
line in as many states as theyhumanly can. Ye, they will do.
They will go to court everything theycan to try to prevent Cornell What's
from being on the battle and includeincluding buying off judges. Yes, so

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yeah, let me let me askthe question, Bob. So let's look,
let's look at the crystal ball.I know we ask you this every
time. I'm gonna do it realquick, and then we can jump to
the other issue. Does Trump winthe White House in twenty four does the
Republican nominee beat Shared Brown and Republicansthen also control the House? Is there
a trifecta in DC in Okay?Okay, well number one, your first

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one. Yes, Donald Trump's gonnawin as long as I gotta put in
one little qualifier, as long asJoe Biden's the Democrat nominee. Because you
know, Jack, I've said thismany times. Biden is the only Democrat
that Trump can be, and Trumpis the only Republican Biden can be.

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God save the Queen Many. Imean, if Biden's the nominee, yeah,
Trump's gonna beat them. Okay,all right, let's train don't assume.
Don't assume that he is going tobe the nominee. Okay, because
I've seen this before with Democrats whenit when it gets right down to it
and they say, oh no,it finally you know, comes filters in

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their thick brains that Oh my god, Biden's gonna lose. They'll dump them.
They'll dump them in a heartbeat.They're gonna go with Kamala Harris.
They're gonna find Gavin Newsom or Westmoreor somebody to put on that ticket.
Oh, there's no question about that. If Yeah, well, I mean,

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dude, I still contend. Youknow, Bernie, Bernie Sanders took
a lot of money to basically getthe hell out of the race and not
contest it when Hillary was getting allthe quote super delegates, you remember that
fiasco. Yeah, so that isthat's well within their capability. Well,
since it is twenty twenty three,let's transition, oh to Issue one.

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Okay, I think we're all stillgonna be manly men after this transition.
But Issue one. I think Bobpeople are starting to pay attention this now
because we're three weeks away from thatelection starting tomorrow, and I'm finally seeing
some Issue one signs in yards invarious neighborhoods and places I go. It's

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I'm wondering if anybody in Ohio dowe have a good grasp right now on
internal numbers of where Issue one standsis, whether up or down? No,
in a word, No, nobodyreally knows, you know why,
because it's all going to be aturnout election and we still don't know what

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kind of turnout there's going to be, so that how can you predict how
it's going to go if you're notreally sure who exactly is going to turn
out? Do we have a dowe I want to ask about does the
GOP have a turnout problem in Ohiowith this or because all I know is
the move that you're seeing by eventhe teachers unions backing no on Issue one

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and so forth. Dude, weknow one thing, boy, Democrats are
really good organizing and getting in thelock step. So I'm wondering the fact
that that's a turnout election. Whodoes that favor? Do you think?
Well? I mean, it dependson who who is better able to turn
their people out? And right now, if you just anecdotally, if you

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look at it, I mean,it looks like the Democrats are really there's
a lot of Democrats motivated to turnout for this thing. But I don't,
you know, I wonder about thewhole Issue one thing, and I'm
not you know, I don't Idon't have any insight er information. But
It's almost like, did we putthis on the ballot just so that we
could influence what's going to happen inNovember. Sure? And I don't mean

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the passage of it. I meanjust the whole mechanics of it. I
mean, just think of this,guys. How many millions has the other
side spent on voting no on issueone? And what happens when they need
a yes vote on issue one inNovember? Interesting about that? So you

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think that Conservatives could have been playingthe long game and not allowing to keep
their paddle drying on anything. Idon't know, but that's okay doing it.
I'm looking at it and I'm tryingto figure it out. And the
one thing that stuck out to meas someone who does politics and does advertising
in politics, I'm just looking atall the money being spent on the no

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side, not a lot of moneyspent on the Yes side. That's true.
So if you if you get,if you do a great job of
voting no on issue one, howdo you then pivot completely and then switch
to Yes on issue one when you'vedone such a great job on No One
Issue one? You know, it'sjust it's it's a fascinating landscape for me

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to look at right now. Sowithout issue one passing, then it is
merely fifty percent plus one and thatand you amend the constant And let me
tell you something that what's coming inNovember. The way they're so deceitfully wording
this thing about this is women's healthcare. I know, Jack, we just
you just did your Windsor Report showhere on WTVN and you had a great

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show about that. But I mean, the deceit we know is like,
oh, we're protecting women's healthcare.But when you really read how the language
is written, essentially it will killparental rights in Ohio. Your twin to
get an abortion in Ohio without theparents knowing or consent, or get puberty

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blockers or you know all that stuffwithout parental consent. And it's it's just
again, it's another part of Ibelieve the lefts, you know, because
we all know if you look atthe Communist Manifesto, one of the fundamental
tenets of it is, Bob,we got to you gotta destroy the nuclear
family. Right, so mom anddad. Mom and dad are just ignorant
bigots kids. You don't pay attentionto them. A matter of fact,

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you shouldn't even you should not evenlike your family anymore. No, the
governments not only your family, butit also becomes your religion. Yeah,
that's why they have to take careof both of those entities, the nuclear
family and religions. Well, andlet's let's look at this and then I'll

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kick it over to you again,Bob. Are they practicing what they preach?
So I'm going to highlight two things. Back in twenty seventeen, the
Columbus Dispatch published an op ed thatessentially said, look, if we're going
to amend the Constitution, we itneeds to be something that has wide and
broad support. We should not beessentially putting laws on that constitutional parchment that

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you can't get past in the stateHouse. Fast forward to last week,
and now they're all up in arms. Why why are we making it harder
to amend the constitution? Are theypracticing what they preach? And then the
other thing I'll give you who arethe opponents of this? Is it the
ACLU, Is it the Democratic Party? Is it the ncuble A or nc
double A nuble A CPNT the isit the Who am I missing? There's

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somebody else I'm missing? Oh?Teachers unions. Guess what, Every single
one of them require at least sixtypercent to amend their constitution or bilaws,
most of them sixty six percent.What say you? Okay, yes,
Jack, you've very well highlighted theirhypocrisy in all of this. But I
will say something else. In politics, you always got to remember be careful

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what you wish for, Okay,because I'll tell you they're doing this because
it's all about abortion. Okay.Well, guess what. And we've talked
about this before. Our side canput constitutional amendments on the ballot a hell
a body easier than their side.All we need is sixty House votes in
twenty Senate votes who get something onthe ballot. And I can think of

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a lot of different issues where Ican get fifty plus one here in Ohio.
Whether it's school choice, whether it'syou know whatever, I mean,
guns, I can think of amultituda thing. Hey, Bob, I'm
gonna stop here. If we startdoing that, if we start putting all
these constitutional amendments on the ballot,they're going to scream bloody murder. And

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guess what they're gonna be for sixtyWell, let me let me say this
one. If this was an issueof right to work in November, they
would be silent on August eighth.Okay, oh yeah, But but here's
I want to point a clarification herebecause you might know the answer to this,
and I'm going to have to diveinto it. My understanding of August
eighth is that it will it willchange all constitutional amendments, meaning not just

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those that are voter initiated with petitions, but also an amendment that would start
in the state House. Is thattrue? Okay, true, It'll be
any amendment to the constitution, nomatter how it is originated. Okay,
Now it doesn't affect is the initiativeprocess, which is what the marijuana people

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are trying to do this year,is because it becomes a law, not
an amendment to the constitution. Hey, I have a quick question for you,
just while we're on statewide politics.It feels like to me that I
don't ever see or hear from GovernorDwine anymore. Like he is just he

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got his reelection and he's just chilling. He doesn't want It's like he he
was a punching bag for those ofus on the conservative hardcore base because while
he was acting like a damn littletyrant. And he is literally a little
tyrant. But it just seems likehe's just kind of just into the background.

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What is going on with Dwine?I mean, it's your typical politician
who you know has been reelected,doesn't have to go before voters anymore,
So why bother breaking a sweat?It's really that simple, does it is?
I mean, you know, it'syou know, maybe he has some

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legislative initiatives he still wants or needsor you know, desires, But I
don't, you know, I thinkhe's pretty much. I mean, after
all the years he's been in office, various offices, I mean, my
gosh, I mean, yeah,he should be a little tired by now.
Yeah, no, kid, Whythe hell is he opposed to save
women's sports and keeping biological mails fromcompeting against that? That makes no sense.

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I don't I don't have a clueon that one. I mean,
I don't know. I mean,who knows. I mean, I can't
tell you, guys. I'm it'sI can't. I don't know our governor
that well, okay, well he'snot he's we know, he's never been
a true conservative conservative. The onlything I can think on that he has
actually ever, never changed and beenconservative, lock stop and barrel. You

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know where I feel is on theabortion issue. He was always always against
abortion, and I think, youknow, knowing the pain of losing a
child himself, I think you know, he has only reinforced his position on
that even more. And you knowwhat, for no other reason, Josh,
you know, I like the manbecause of that and for no other

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reason. And I always have toremind myself, Oh my god, we
can have it so much worse.Oh see, I'm telling you name.
You always got to remind yourself.I do. I do. But at
the same time, it's like sofrustrating because it's like you he behaved like

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every big he might as well beinggovernor of New York at California what he
did to Ohio during the COVID Andthat's really what was the breaking point for
us. It was not that thatwas I think that was when everyone,
like on the conservative side, justsaid time out, what the hell are
you doing? What's going on?Where's my lifetime in politics? In government?

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Um tends to give you a differentviewpoint where you know, you've been
in government so long and you've beenpart of government so long did you really
start believing government knows best? It'sscary. Yeah. So, hey,
I'm going to confuse our listeners evenmore. I'm going to go back to
this August November thing. Okay,gotcha. So just a reminder August would

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ensure that to amend the constitution ittakes a broad amount of support, and
November about why we need that.Jack, Absolutely, you got to do
is look at casinos, look atmy marijuana guys in twenty fifteen, and
you see where people can dictate tothe state of Ohio in their own best
interests, not in the best interestsof Ohio, and mainstream media outlets carry

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the water for those causes. Soit's really hard to educate voters, it
really is, and they're really goodat misdirecting and confusing. But let's go
to this November thing because it's amisnomer and it's disgusting when I hear,
Oh it kind of fis a reviewway it protects women's health, No,
it doesn't. It does what wejust said. It allows abortion up to
birth for matters of convenience. Itallows miners to have abortions in transition without

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parental consent or authorization. Do youthink, regardless of what happens August eighth,
I'm a yes on eight. I'ma yes on August eighth, I'm
a hell no on November. Doyou think November passes? I don't know.
Depends on whether Issue eight passes,honestly. Yeah. Yeah, well
yeah, that'll depend on that obviously. But I'm guessinging Jack, you're asking

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me, will it get to fiftyplus one in November? Yep, that's
what you're asking me. Yeah,because I'm gonna have to buy a house
somewhere else. I can't give youan answer on that because of two things.
Number one, and I've talked aboutit. You know, this no
on Issue one has been you know, if they prevail in August, they're
going to have a hard time pivotingto yes on one. I think that

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in itself will cause confusion, whichis the number two reasons I think people
are going to be after what happenedin August. I think people will be
very confused about November. And thegood news about that is the fact that
when people are confused on amenment issuesand stuff like that, they vote no.

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Yeah, So, I you know, I feel good about November,
but I can't tell you for afact I feel worried about it because I
think it just depends on you know, how educated people become on it.
Well, I mean yes, andagain people who seek out this podcast saving

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liberty, people like Bob Clegg,you know who was a strategist, people
like Jack windsor who's I would callhim an activist reporter. And I love
it. I think it's we gotto now, we got to counter fight
fire with fire. And of course, you know, I've never said anything
conservative or controversial on the radio,so I just we have to understand that

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we live in this world. Thisis our this is the bubble in which
we reside. But for your averageJoe six pack, they're not even you
know, issue one probably right nowstill even as like what you know,
and you know there you're too busybuying you know, inflations, inflation and
grocery prices and three dollars and fortycent gas. The people trying to buy,

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yeah, trying to buy a homeat six seven eight percent interest rates.
I mean, they got a lotmore to worry about than like they're
not thinking about the way of stufflike this. And guys, remember,
no matter what happens in August.No matter what happens in November, this
ain't over. Okay, this isnot going away, no matter what happens.

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No, no, and neither issueis because the abortion lobby is massively
profitable and they're extremely active with politicaldonations. And by the way, Republicans
are guilty of this as well.Unions are extremely active and give a lot
of money and all those things calledhospitals and well you've got that right,

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it's well, and that's a wholedifferent I'm not going to go there.
We could do an entire separate podcast. Yeah, and so, but the
point is also, I mean,hospitals are are profits. I mean,
this is profiteering from killing children inthe womb for no reason other than convenience.

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Who will be on medication for life. They will be on medication for
the life, they will be gettingprocedures for life. That is a massive
money maker. Can somebody just likeit's like Scooby doo, right, I'd
have done it it had those darnkids pull the damn mask off. This
is money, of course it was. It's the same reason the job was
being demanded, because how much inkickbacks do you think Fiser was given these

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guys masks from back change guys.Everything in life gets down to money,
it really does. But it's true, it does. I know. Let's
leave you. Let's leave it onthis bob. Let you enjoy the rest
of your evening. Um, canyou uh the Secret Service today coming out

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and saying we did our best.We just we just couldn't find them culprits
that they brought that cocaine into wathouse, Like, come on, man,
dude, I have to say this, Bob. Truly, I have
seen more pushback from what I wouldcall moderates or even people who on the
left, like because they know thatthe hypocrisy now is so oh in they

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open, it's so obvious. Theyknow people are pissed, they know people
would understand we live in a twotier justice system. And it's like when
I'm seeing NBC News reporters given heryou know, Karan Jean Pierre the business
dude, like that's that's different.That changed? Oh yeah, and they
than themselves the sweetheart deal that Huntergot, okay, and then right after

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that you started seeing stories about howthe in the White House, Um Biden
shuts down any staffers that try tobring up Hunter in any way, shape
or form, even to the pointof, well, can we talk about
you know how Hunters deal is goingto affect politically. No, he didn't
want to hear it. And thenon the on the heels of that,

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you had the cooking being found.So I mean, we're not idiots.
Okay, we know, we getit, we know where it came from,
and they're doing whatever they can totry to hide it, just like
they did whatever they could to hidethe all the all the bribery and money
wandering that Hunter was doing. Imean, that's what they're in for,

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all trying to hide everything. Well, you know what this is, nothing's
ever going to happen. I mean, people need to let that go.
We need to focus on local politics. I think right now we got more
important fish to i in Ohio andbeyond h Then you know, we know
that, we know it's gonna justkeep going on like this and no one
will ever be held accountable. Soyou know, you know what, the

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American people are catching on. That'swhy even though Donald Trump has been indicted
how many times hide or beating JoeBiden head to head right now, the
yeah, you know, they theythey are getting it. They are absolutely
getting it. Bob. You godo you for the rest of the night,
and let's just buckle up. It'sgonna be. It's gonna be one

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hell of a fall into next year. Yep, it is. Guys,
Take care, Thanks Bob.