Ep 22- Issue 1 and HB 245 with Reps. Angie King and Josh Williams

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Episode Transcript

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Well, Josh, we are embarkingon episode twenty two. Already, Liberty
twenty two. Man time flies whenyou're having fun. Man two is a
lucky number in the far East.Oh, it's an important number. Oh,
so that you're telling me this isgoing to be one important show.

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It is an important number when itcomes to our amendments. Yeah. Right,
And so this is episode twenty two, and this is super important because
we're going to talk about number one, which is issue one, and we're
also going to talk about how OhioHouse Bill two forty five. And so
in the House we have with USState Representative Josh Williams, he's a Toledo

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Republican, and State Representative Angela King, she is a Republican from Salina.
Welcome representatives to the Saving Liberty Podcast. How are you both today? I'm
doing well? Thank you. Yeah. Actually, Representative King, I lived
in Saint Mary's for a brief moment, so I'm familiar with Salina. Awesome.

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Yeah, the four God's Country.You know it is, baby,
you know it is. All right, So we want to we want to
jump right into issue one. Absolutely, Jack, let's hit it all right.
So, prior to this podcast,I had to show the Windsor report.
We had Auditor of State Keith Faberontalked a lot about it and hit
some hit some key points. SoI just want to let you I don't

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want to you know, pigeonhole youhere. Why don't you both take thirty
seconds and tell us why this issueis important and why you're for it.
Yeah, well we'll start, Ladiesfirst, Ladies first, sure, thank
you. So our founding father intendedto make it hard to amend the constitution.
That's why at the federal level ittakes sixty six percent vote vote the
House of Congress, both houses ofCongress, then seventy five percent of the

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states to amend the constitution. Ofcourse, the US Constitution has been amended
twenty seventh times and more than twoyears. By contrast, ohiost constitutions been
amended one hundred and seventy two times. So these leftist organizations understand that with
a low voter threshold they can comein. It's an open door to the

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highest bentner better. Millions of dollarsare being spent on thirty second sound bites
and radio ads, and you know, our rural communities deserve a voice in
the process. Too, so fullybehind the rating the threshold and including all
eighty eight counties in requiring signatures.So we need to protect our values and

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way of life. And I believethat anything worth getting in the Constitution should
have broad support. Excellent. Now, before we go to Representative Williams,
I just want to take a momentto sit down here and pause and say,
Okay, Issue one would require sixtypercent approval to pass a constitutional amendment.
You have to gather signatures from alleighty eight counties, five percent of

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the voters who voted in the askacubernatorial election. And you got to get
the signatures right and do your duediligence upfront because there's no cure period.
So Representative Williams, let's hear it. Why is this important? Why are
you for it? I think it'sone of the most important elections we were
have in our lifetime. Here inAugust and in November. I believe we've
seen over the last decade special interestgroups from across the country that millions of

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dollars to strategically place ballot citizen ledbad initiatives on the ballot and off years
whether they're no, there's going tobe between twenty five and thirty percent of
Ohio Ones to the polls. Memean you get between twelve and fifteen percent
of Ohio Ones can enshrine something inthe constitution that the majority of Ohio Ones
don't agree with. They just weren'tpresident during that election period because we weren't

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voting for governor, who aren't votingfor president, who aren't vote for a
stay candidates. Now we see theimportant issue is abortion, but we've seen
bad initiatives to get rid of qualifiedimmunity, to increase men wage the fifteen
and twenty five dollars an hour,We've seen bodenisses on all kinds of subject
matter. Because the leftists understand thatOhio now is a solid red state and

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to do anything you need to gothrough the legislature, the executive official branches,
which are all covered by Republicans.So if you're a left leading organization,
you know you're not gonna be ableto get your posties put in the
state of Ohio. So they're targetingthe weak threshold of fifty percent plus one
and off calendar years and an effortto push their leftist agenda here to the

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state of Ohio and I'm sorry,but as Republicans were not standing for that.
Yeah, no, well heard,and totally it's the truth. You
really have seen how the issue thepeople who even want to know on issue
one, how much more money andadvertising you've seen, you've seen more signage.

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Well I want to get into thesigns interestingly enough here in a minute.
But what about that's the biggest liethat they're telling it. And whichever
one of you wants to go,that's fine. But the biggest lie that
they're saying the no people is thatif this passes, you lose the American
traditional concept of one person, onevote. Can you please debunk that silly

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argument? Sure, I'll address it. So there is no American concept of
majority rule. Our founding fathers specificallymade sure that we were not a Democrat
led government. Instead, we werea republic whereby you elect representatives that go
and legislate on your behalf. Theidea was that you don't want my rule

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here in instateable hire in a UnitedStates period, our founding fathers enshrined that
in our constitution that it wasn't justfifty plus one, and we're one of
a very few number of states thatactually allowed any citizen led constitutional amendment,
let alone at fifty percent of thevoting base here as a legislator, in
order for us to get Issue oneonto August eighth ballot, it took sixty

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percent three fifth of House members toget it to the voters, whether or
not they wanted to protect their constitution. We were selected by voters to represent
them, and it took sixty percentof us, and we had hearings on
it, we had speeches on it, we did research on it. And
instead they believe they can dump millionsof dollars in advertising just to persuade a

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small number of Ohio ones to hitthe Pope. And if I could just
add, I think the other alie that's being put forth out there is
that this is something new. Backin twenty eleven, there was a Constitutional
Monorization Commission established and it was abipartisan subcommittee who in their final report,

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recommended that the threshold for adopting amendmentsto a House Constitution be raised to at
least fifty five percent. So Issueone, that the threshold for approval isn't
a new idea. Absolutely no,no, it's not a new idea.
As a matter of fact, it'sa tried and true, tested idea.

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And the other thing I wanted tobring up because we are getting you know,
my day job, I am withthe on the Mark Blazers show.
Mark and I do a show onnews radio six ten WTVN here in Columbus,
and we have been getting a lotof DMS calls feedback from listeners who

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have had their signs stolen. They'vehad their signs vandalized. As a matter
of fact, one woman called intoday she actually got into a confrontation.
She was watching two people smuggly andproudly steal an issue pro you know,
a yes on Issue one sign,and when she confronted him, they called
her a right wing fascist terrorist.I mean, the lunacy. I'm curious,

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are you guys hearing anything from yourconstituents about when they are trying to
get the pro yes message out thatthey're having these any of these same issues.
Yeah, I've heard reports of signsbeing stolen. That's why I went
on my Facebook and my campaign wentout and bought many billboards as are five
by three foot yard signs, andwe're delivering them across the state of Ohio

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for the next three days. Wehave small yard signs that we're delivering.
You know, every one of thosesigns they take will put ten of them
down. So, of course,when you can't win on the merits,
you have to use tactics like that. Me standing where I'm at right now,
I have on a vote Yes shirtthat we wear every single day.
You're not gonna ripped that shirt offmy back. So the yes vote is

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out here. We're strong, wedo it properly. We go and we
do shows like this, and wespread to the airways a set of using
these vigilante tactics. Right, Ithink that it's a good point. You
look at the other side, thosethat are pushing the no vote, that
don't want to protect our constitution.Look at the groups that are supporting that.

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You've got Planned Parenthood, a clueof Ohio Pro Choice Ohio, Ohio
Democratic Socialist Party, Democratic Socialists ofAmerica, Cleveland, Cares Ohio and Cares
Ohio Action Funds, Northwest Ohio,Trans Advocacy, Protect Choice Ohio, Ohio
Physicians for Reprotective Rights, Black LivesMatter, Cleveland, Black Lives Matter,

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Dayton. You've got to sixteen thirtyDC dark money group who's already invested two
point five million dollars and Ohio EducationAssociation donated a million dollars to one person,
one vote. So you look atthose groups and if anybody that's kind
of what I'm telling people too.If you're kind of confused on the issue,
look at who's supporting yes, who'sstanding by and saying yes, please

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please vote yes to protect our constitution. And look at the group on the
other side, and which group representsyour values and your way of light.
I think that's really important that youhighlighted that because one of the things that
we know is that people who investmoney expect a return on investment. And
when you name those groups, youcan look down the line Planned Parenthood.

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They want it because they want theRadical Amendment in November to pass, because
they want more abortions. You canlook at the Ohio Socialist Party. They
want it because they want the thresholdto be lower, because they want to
amend the constitution to take away yoursecond Amendment. Right real quickly, because
I know Representative King your unlimited timehere, I'm going to wrap this question
into two questions socratic method. I'llthrow it out you both answer it.

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But one of the things that evenpeople who are maybe more conservative or independent
are saying, is the thing thatscares me about Issue one is that you
have to have five percent of voterswhore voted in the last gubernatorial election from
all eighty eight counties to sign apetition and there's no cure period. That
scares the hell out of me.What do you say to that, I
don't have a cure period as anelected official. If I put my petition

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in to be on the ballot andI get my signatures and I show up
to my board elections and those signaturesaren't verified, they don't give it back
to me and say, hey,you have ten days to fix this.
I'm not on the ballot. Sothere's no other area where we have this
cure period where you get a secondsecond at bat where you can go out
and cure signatures. When it comesto our eighty eight counties, we all

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should be involved in these major decisionsin order to make amendments to our constitution.
We're not talking about passing a bill, passing a statue, which that's
still in the books that a citizenled statute, a referendum is still fifty
plus one. You can pass abill We're talking about enshrining policy decisions in

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our governing document, which is ourconstitution that's supposed to outline the powers of
the government and the rights of thepeople. This is not something where you
go and you introduce controversial subjects wherea small number of individuals off heres get
to get to dictate to the restof us that babies can be killed up
until birth. Representative King, whatsay you? As far as I totally

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agree, I think Williams nailed iton the head right there where we have
the same standard and if it's thatimportant, you need to do it right
and do it right the first time. Amen. Amen, that's exactly right.
Let's get this locked into place nowand get it done. You've got
about three minutes here, Representative Kings. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
going to ask you to answer thisfirst. But you and Representative Williams are

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also the co sponsors of House Billtwo forty five, which expands the definition
of adult cabaret performers and strippers andtopless dancers and also would restrict where they
are allowed to perform. Can youplease explain? Go ahead, and anybody
who says that you are trying thatthat Representative Williams and Representative Kings they're trying

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to outlaw drag shows in Ohio.Can you set the record straight. Yeah,
that's a grave mis representation of thebill. The bill has one purpose,
and that's to protect children. Legislationdoesn't restrict anyone's freedom. It simply
put in place important measure to protectkids from being exposed to care in interest

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and obscene performances. There's already establishedplaces for these performances for those who are
legal age, they can go andwatch it enjoy there. But this is
to protect children, and again,it does not restrict anyone's freedom. And
some of those stories that are beingreported, that's just a great misrepresentation of
the bill and the intent of whatthis still is. I don't know if

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Representative Williams wanting to add something thereor sure. So all you have to
do is read the first line ofthe section that changes cabaret performance. It
says that they have to engage inobscene conduct or conduct that's harmful the juveniles.
These are two standards that have beenin Ohio law for years and have
been upheld by the courts. Allwe're doing is we're trying to cover two

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gaps that we're in our current staturetory structure. One is, currently the
only enforcement mechanism for a doll performancesis to go after the owner of the
establishment if they allow miners to bepresident, or to go after the minor
themselves. So now we're starting tosee performances go into public spaces. There's
no current law on the books thataffects this type of behavior, because we

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just saw a decision by an Ohiocourt where a man fully exposed himself to
fourteen year old girls, and sincethe stomach hung down past as private part,
he couldn't be charged with a decentexposure god. So now in theory,
a normal stripper could leave the stripclub and go into a public park
and have a performance, and kidscould be president, and the dogs could

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be present, and they couldn't beprosecuted. All we did is we be
made sure that all performers engage inthis type of conduct, whether you're a
stripper or go go dancer, atopless dancer, or a drag if you
engage in a seem conduct which welegally are allowed to legislate, we're going
to tell you do it in anadult only establishment for at entertainment. Matt,

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Yeah, that's imagine someone finding thatoffensive or oppressive that you want adults
to perform in front of other adults. Just real quick here and before I
let you both go, where doesthis where's this stand? What kind of
feedback are you hearing? And whenshould we expect any action on it?
It should be assignment committee and startgetting action in September when we come back

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in session. On the ground,we hear support from across the spectrum.
I've had Republicans a Democrat both tellme they're taking it too far, They're
going after our children. We supportthe bill. Yet, of course we
have a certain subset of society thatwants to transit issue and the drag queen
issue presented the children and a formatthat would make them more accepting of that

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lifestyle. So those people are theones that are the ones screaming online and
taking pictures of me and Angie anddoing all kinds of things. They believe,
since they're the loudest voice in theroom, that the rest of the
room reads of them. They don't. That's right, real quick, Oh
sorry, real quick. A finalword, Representative King, I've gotten the

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same positive feedback to from my district. Now, there's those that think it's
okay to t work and shake yourbooty and little kids give dollar bills.
But I've received a lot of appreciationthat this this isn't appropriate. It's adult
them performances, adult them imagery andagain, and there's a place for that.

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So we're not restricting anyone's freedom.But you know, there are established
places for those sorts of performance,not in the presence of minor and so
those of legal age can go thereand watch and enjoy. That's right,
Uh. Representative Angie King, RepresentativeJosh Williams, thank you so much for
joining us. Um, You're welcomeback any time, and we really enjoyed

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the conversation you both well, thankyou so much. I have a great
evening. Thank you, Jack.That is an enlightening Those are two really
well spoken representatives. And I haveto say, when when they lay these
things out, when they lay outthe facts, not the spin, not

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the left wing narrative, not theagenda driven socialist nonsense. When they lay
out the facts and they articulate it, it really does make you wonder what
kind of a human being would beagainst uh, you know, say HB
two forty five, or thinks thatthe Constitution should be bought and sold whenever,
you know, come, come andgo whenever it pleases here in Ohio.

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And the lies that are being usedfrom the other side, they're so
transparently see through Jack. They areyou either if you support that type of
thing, you either want power oryou have a lust for perversion. It's
really that simple. And look,we all have our we all have our
shoes. As someone once told me, we all have our issues. But
misery loves company. I genuinely believethat there are people who have perverse addictions

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or a desire to see other peopleparticipate in their perversion, and I think
those are some of the people whoprobably support it. But then there are
the people who are in power,right there are people who recognize if we
can move the needle forward and wecan get some kids to start taking puberty
blockers and hormones and God forbid,go under the knife. Guess what they
are a client for life for myclinic. They are a client for life

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from my hospital. That's money andthat's power. Those are the two,
the only two. And the otherthing I want to say, the people
who are really under this, Idon't know deception that well, hey,
you support parents rights. What ifa parent wants to take a kid to
a parent could do that. ButI'm telling you where parents rights end at
abuse. If you're going to abuseyour kid, you lose your damn right.

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And if you're going to put yourkid in front of something that is
abusive that could hurt them, that'shurting them emotionally, psychological, psychology,
psychologically, that word spiritually. Youknow, you're just you're setting them up
for failure and you're doing a reallypoor job as a leader or a parent.
And so there is a point whereyour rights stop, and that is
abused. Yeah, no, there'sno question about that. And you know,

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as of the recording of this podcast, it's eight days before the election
on August eighth, and it's vitallyimportant. A new poll came out today
which was very encouraging because what usedto be about a ten to twelve point
deficit gap, now the yes votehas actually taken a one percentage point lead,

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forty two to forty one, accordingto the poll conducted today by Ohio
Northern University or release today, Ishould say, and it was six hundred
and seventy five. I believe randomOhio vote. You know, I think
they tried to not random, butI think they talked to six hundred and
seventy five registered voters. And Ididn't see the compositional breakdown of that of

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Democrats versus Republicans or conservatives liberals.But um that I am. I'll put
it this way. Two weeks ago, I didn't. I was very discouraged
inside. I kept a brave faceon for the radio and the podcast and
all that, but inside I wasreally discouraged. I feel a lot better

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today than I did two weeks ago. Yeah. You know, it's one
of those things where if people arepresented with appropriate information, generally speaking,
they're gonna make a wise decision.And I feel like, up until a
couple of weeks ago, we werehearing a lot of red herring arguments and
misnomers about what issue wanted, andwe just ran through a couple of them.
You know, it's it's gonna doaway with majority rule. That's false,

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it's uh, you know, it'sgonna make it impossible to for a
citizen to be heard. It's goingto take away the axiom of one one
person, one vote by the wayI want to I want to address.
That's what's interesting to me about there'sactually a whole group called one Person,
One Vote that is funding, youknow, the marketing effort to get people
to vote. Now, you knowwhat those folks didn't want Ohioans to do.

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They didn't want them to vote onthis. They want apoplectic when this
resolution passed the General Assembly and saidwe want to let Ohiowas decide. Well,
if you want one person, onevote, you should be gleefully joyous
right now that they don't want thatagain, it's a misnomer. And you
know, I'm a little bit Italked to an State House insider when that

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USA Today poll came out, andI said, this looks like a train
wreck, and he said, it'snot as bad as they're saying that it
is. He said, it's goingto be neck and neck, but it's
all about turnout if people get outto vote. And I think what you're
going to see from conservatives and independenceright now that maybe lean a little bit
right that you didn't see in twentytwo, and you certainly didn't see in
twenty is that they're going to voteearly. This whole idea of I can't

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vote early, I can't mail ina ballot. I feel like a lot
of Conservatis and Republicans are letting gowithout. Yeah, I know they have
to. After the twenty twenty electionwas stolen from us. You know now
the importance of early voting and pumpingout those numbers. And Dude, Conservatives
have got listen. I'll say,we have got to learn. We got
to get up with the modern times. Dude, just showing up on election

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day, Dude, that model's gone. I know, I'm sorry. Some
people love that tradition and I totallyget it, and you don't want it
to go away. But dude,we've got a ballot harvest. We have
to We have to get out thevotes. We have to drive elderly and
senior citizens around to vote. Wehave to go into our places of worship
and our other places and tell ourfriends and tell our you know, brothers

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and sisters about we got to I'llhelp you. Do you need vote?
What can I do to help youabsentee about vote? Whatever it is,
You've got to be active. Wehave got to adopt the left voting playbook.
Otherwise, Jack, They're gonna keepfinding ways to keep having us bend
over and screwed without any you know, as they say anything to kind of

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soften the uh the impact the impactyet, So yeah, you have to
look, you love sports. Iplayed sports. I love sports. I
think you played some sports too.You know the rules, and you maximize
the rules, You do everything youcan to win a contest. And I
think that I think that that's startingto catch some traction on the conservative side

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of the aisle. The other thingthat has to happen, by the way,
and I think that's why shows likethis are so vitally important. Is
people have to be presented with thetruth. They have to be presented with
the facts. And what happens sooften is that mainstream outlets, even people
who do podcasts, they carry thewater for these people. And you know,
they're a skirt that these people hidebehind because they'll blame, guilt,

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shame anyone that comes against them.They'll give you a half the facts,
they won't give you the whole day. Yeah, you know what Issue one
requires sixty percent. You gotta getsignatures in all eighty eight counties and you
gotta get it right the first time. Yep. That is a tall order.
That's rigors but it's the constitution.It should be, it should be.
It should be hard. The founders, what's the famous line, what

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have been Franklin say, it's likeyou know what what you know what is
is he's like a republic if youcan keep it keep And that's and that's
where we are. We are literallyon the precipice of of losing the republic.
Well, you know, strap inum. It's a week before election.
Man, God, God help usif that goes down and the unthinkable

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happens in November with that demonic abortiontrans bill that they're going to put on
the ballot. So saving liberty's hardsometimes, brother, but it's well worth
it, my man.