OVERTIME: Emergency podcast, reaction to the Lane Lambert hire as head coach (5/30)

Mike Benton is joined by Everett Fitzhugh, John Forslund, and Ian Furness with instant reaction to the hire of Lane Lambert as new Kraken head coach on May 29. Lambert, coming from the Toronto Maple Leafs, succeeds Dan Bylsma, who was fired after one season. 

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Where we have a gold mine, a treasure trove of
conversation coming your way, especially here around this one. Got
to get right to matters here the Kraken have named
Lane Lambert their third head coach in franchise history. The
move made official on Thursday. He takes over for the
Fire Dan Bielsma, who lasted one season with the Kraken.

(01:23):
Lambert coming over from the Toronto Maple Leafs. He spent
last season, his only season in Toronto, as associated coach
for Craig Barubi. The Leaves get into the second round
in Game seven against the Florida Panthers, and Lambert instrumental
in a massive turnaround for the Leaf's defensive structure. They
finished eighth in goals allowed in this last season, also

(01:44):
experiencing uptick as far as penalty kill efficiency. They officially
went from twenty second to seventeenth, But the conversation around
Lambert deals with defense. It was a part of him
when he was on the bench with the New York
Islanders as head coach for a season and a half,
got the Islanders the playoffs, and this only full season
fired midway through the twenty twenty three and twenty four

(02:05):
campaign before his time in Toronto in a support role.
The previous eleven years, all of them for him in
the NHL, were spent on the same bench with head
coach Barry Trotz, known as a defensive icon in this game,
Trotz leaving the Islanders in place of Lambert, and Lambert
before the Islander job spending time with the Washington Capitals,
he and Trotz want Stanley Cup together back in twenty eighteen.

(02:29):
Lambert also a part of Trotz's staff with the Nashville Predators,
previously also head coach in the American Hockey League with
the Milwaukee Admirals. Plus also a career that goes way
back to his playing days in the NHL and the
Western Hockey League as well, a lot to talk about,
lot to unpack. Where do the Kraken go from here

(02:50):
with this hire? How much does his defense of Mantra
influence their production? And how does this affect the youth
coming in. We've heard a lot about that from this offseason,
and we'll get to all of this here in a bit,
whatever it fits you. Radio play by play voice here
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(03:11):
Hockey Network TV side. He's also done as far as
is national radio duties with the Stanley Cup playoffs. Additionally,
Ian Farness, our own mayor of Maple Valley, will be
along here to discuss. Let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right about when this news went down on the highre,
I would assume that the guy joining us right now
is in the middle of multitasking, because he was of
course checking his phone, checking his sources and word around
the league, while also I believe putting down a hot
dog or nachos or the mac and cheese cart over
at the Mariners game. I think you had a good
time with that last night. Ever, it fits you joining

(03:45):
us now on overtime. Been a while, buddy, How are you?
How is the game doing well?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Man? The game was great for the test. He's doing
really well. Oh yeah, but you're back on man. I was.
I was down. I get out a few of my
favorite spots on a on a beautiful uh Wednesday Thursday
after nubial Thursday afternoon, and I think like the rest
of us in cracking land in the hockey world, I mean,

(04:15):
I have been refreshing my Twitter feed and trying to
touch my sources and reach out to whoever I could
for the last months, and he'd be hearing anything and
it finally popped yesterday five o'clock, So it was you know,
I find it interesting that I think yesterday two days
ago last year, almost a year to the day, and

(04:37):
the Dan Bilesbo was announced introduced at his press conference
out the crack and aer uh introducing announcing another head
coach here. So I thought that timing was uh, it
was was noteworthy there. But yeah, definitely, I think kind
of that collective sigh of relief that the process at
least has come to an end.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So I'll get into the timeline art here in a bit,
But first off, your reaction here to this what kind
of a coach and we've heard about defense a lot
did they get and what kind of potential do they
have with Lane Lambert?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now, yeah, you know, I listen. I think that this
higher is one that not a lot of folks saw coming.
I mean when you when you see the names who
were available, you know, you look at your tackets and
your Sullivans, your Mitch Loves who you know, depending on

(05:31):
who you talk to, you know, Mitch Love was in
that finalist category. You know a few other names Jay
Woodcroft and and folks who are out there, but Laye
Lambert I mean, this was a name that I think
came pretty late in the process. I think Toronto really
only granted him permission to talk to the back at

(05:51):
late last week, the middle of last week, you know,
once they were abound out of the playoffs, you know.
So I feel like this was kind of a pretty
quick moving process with him, I should say. But as
far as the coach you're getting, you know, everybody's going
to point to the numbers that he had in in

(06:13):
Long Island with the Islanders, right, and I think he's
been a long time assistant coach in this league. Defensively,
you can't argue with his success there. I think his structure,
you know, a very structured coach, you know, which when
you're looking at a team like the Kraken that doesn't
have a lot of of as our good friend Ian

(06:34):
Finess with say, aircraft carriers, you don't have that elite
level talent. You've got a lot of really good players,
but you don't have that great player that can carry
the load when needed you need. You need a coach
that can fit into the structure. I think Defensively, last year,
you know, it is what it is, right, it was
a mess our defensive structure last year was not very good.

(06:57):
And you go from a guy in Dave Haxtall who
two years ago helped you know, the Crack had become
the only team in the top ten in defense. They
were knife in defense two years ago, but they didn't
make the playoffs. So they had the structure, they had
the system in place. A new voice was needed. So
I think you're going to get back to that defensive structure.

(07:18):
You're going to get back to that hard way of playing.
That's one thing that teams said the first two years
under Dave Astall was that, you know what, they don't
win a lot, unfortunately, they don't score a lot unfortunately.
But man, this team is annoying to play against. I
hate playing against the Cracking because they're always going to
outwork you. They're always going to make you work for everything.

(07:40):
And I think Laye Lambert is a coach that's going
to help you get back to that identity.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Everett, what intrigued you about the timeline on this, because
I mean, get given the fact that Mike Sullivan's off
the board, Rick Tacket went elsewhere. My own understanding is
the Kracking and Tcket we're talking, but it didn't get
as deep as others thought. Mike Sullivan was never West
that I heard from other league sources. Mitch Lov's name,
of course was out there. So I think this all

(08:06):
lines up today that they honed it on Lane Lambert
before the Leaves maybe were knocked out of the playoffs,
and you have to think about the work that he
did under Craig Barrubi. Because you can put offense comes
from talent where that's on the roster, and of course
coaches can move the needle a little bit. But defensively
is where this really matters, and it's at the foundation

(08:29):
of teams who win in the playoffs and a lot
in the regular season. And we saw how much the
Maple Leafs really jumped with all that talent from their
metrics defensively two years ago now to this last season.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, And you know what, I'm one of those people
who feel I think coaches get way too much of
the blame when teams lose. Right, you know, listen, you're
not out there as a coach. I'm not out there goals,
I'm not out there stopping bucks, right, So I think coaches,

(09:05):
you know, Austin Matthews goes into a slump, Craig Burube,
here's too much of it in my opinion. But where
the coach does matter, like you said, is with your structure,
is with your identity, is with how a team plays.
What are you known for, what do you do well
as a team, And I think that is where having
a good coach really plays a part. And I think

(09:27):
you're right the Maple LEAFUS. You know, regardless of the
narrative that they have, right, they can't get past the
second round, they can't win a cup, whatever you want
to say. They were a very difficult team defensively to
play against in the last couple of seasons because of
the work that Ley Lambert did on the defensive slide

(09:47):
of the puck. So that's something that you can't argue there.
So now you're going to have to bring that same
philosophy here to Seattle with a team that doesn't have
a knee Lander, a Matthews partner. Now you know, you
don't have those big names, but what you do have
is a bunch of role players on other teams who

(10:10):
have worked hard, who have won, who have had success,
and now you're putting it together here. So you've got
a lot of good players, You've got winning talent, You've
got a good leadership corps, you've got a good veteran group.
You have a really young, promising prospect pool led by
Shane Wright and Matty Vaniers, and you know Copple Coco's

(10:32):
all at twenty three years old and Raker Evans and
Berkeley Catton. So I think if you're laid Lambert, you
have to be excited about what you're walking into in
terms of a locker room, in terms of prospect pool
and the pieces that are already here. But I also
think that you know you're gonna have to do what

(10:53):
Bruce Gasidy did and what Scott Arneel did and what
my fellowman did, and that is you're gonna have to
find a way to reinvent in your second coaching sits right.
So that's where I think the test is going to
be for him coming into the season with all the
pieces that you have, u to go out at Dow,

(11:14):
you know, put a winning people of the eggs.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Getting offense out of defense. Let's plaus here for two
minutes a little bit of Chuck and Buck talk with
GM Jason Bottrell, who was on their program early on
Friday morning.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Jason, what about style of play that you say he's
excited about.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
What is the style?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Is it? You know, fast is it?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I mean, he seems to be a defensive minded guy,
So what is it in particular? Like, yep, that fits
my vision well.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
To me, he is a defensive minded coach. And you
look at his track record, whether it's in Toronto or
with the Islanders or Washington when he won the Stanley Cup.
You know, he's a great PK coach. He is amazing
defensive coach. But the whole fact of defensive element is
to go get the fucking playing the often zone and
in the offensive zone. A lot of his game is

(12:03):
around attack of the net, an area we know we
have to improve on a little bit for sure, And
so we just felt it was a situation where his
mindset how he wanted to play, get in the pucks,
getting out of our zone, moving up dice quickly, get
to the net. You know, with the skaters that we
have on our team, we felt it could be a
good combination, a good mix.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
And a lot of people are saying, oh, you're kind
of going back to the Dave Hackstall way.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
A couple of years ago.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Is this a little bit of an organizational message that, Yeah,
we kind of liked the way that this theme was
operating two years ago. Defensive minded, that's how we're built
right now. Is is that at all true?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Look, it's true that you have to be you have
to have details in your defensive zone, you have to
be accountable in your defense zone. You have to be
able to play good defense to have success in the
Nash Hockley.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's just there.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
But are a big part of what Lane's job is
and why we believed in Lane two is the development
of younger forwards that are coming into the mix for
us to take the next step as an organization. We
can make trades, we can bring in free agents, but
it's going to be fostering, you know, the development of
our young draftics, our young forwards that we already have

(13:14):
in the system, whether that's Matty Beniers, whether that's you know,
bringing in a Coco, whether that's Shane Wright or Berkeley
Catton coming in from junior to this stuffcoming here. This
is going to be where our organization can take a
big step. And if we want to go to the
spots where we're aspiring to go to, we have to
create more offense from these young players.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So, Everett, how far do you think the needle moves
between offense and defense.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I mean, listen, I played one game of Men's League
my entire life, back when I was in college. I
want based office, you know, call it a pretty good day.
It was back in by learned escape things. You know,
was twenty one years old.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Seven of nine.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
That's not bad. I was great. Oh yeah, that was.
But I was also like baby going some blue lines
and blue line. So that was the first time I'd
ever seen it in hockey gear. I'd only ever seen
it in like you know, sweatpants and track pants and
all that stuff. But I say all that to say, listen,
Jason Badril played this game. He's managed this game, He's

(14:17):
coached this game. There's a lot more about this game
than any of us do. And and but I think
his comments are bang on. We heard a lot about
We heard a lot of that from Day that's all.
We heard a lot of that from Dan Biles. Listen,
we have to get the puck. You have to get
the puck from your diesel. You have to move it
up the ice quickly, and you have to be aggressive

(14:39):
and you have to attack the net. Those are all
things that we've heard now for the last four years
going into year five. So I do I like Chuck's
question there about is that kind of an organizational philosophy paraphrasing,
of course, but you know, I do think that that
is where you're going to have some success with the
guy like Leigh Lambert. Defensively, if you are strong in

(15:00):
that area, if you're limiting opportunities, if you're getting sicked
on bucks, if you're attacking in the D zone, if
you're if you're wearing teams down in your defensive zone,
it's only going to help your offense because if you
get to puck up the guys quickly, your line changes
are going to be broken. And I mean the opposition
right Their line changes are going to be broken. There's

(15:21):
going to be a six units on the guys. It's
going to be sending shifts because the krackt has kept
for these guys, all the guys for so long. And
I remember back in the day Axed All Days, I
had a little side conversation with Jared McCann and Jame
Schwartz was standing a couple stalls down and he said, man,

(15:42):
Haack system is hard to play. It's hard to do,
but you know what, damn it when we do it
well with the best team in the NHL. And Schwartz
kind of gave this look of like, ook, boy, you
ain't lying. It's hard to do, but when you do it,
not a whole lot of teams are going to outwork you.

(16:02):
Not a whole lot of teams are going to be
better than you. And we saw that year two when
the team made the playoffs. Now, also a lot went
right that year. I understand it. You have thirteen guys
with career highest points and goals you had. I think
if you take away Philip Rubauer and Andre Berikofski, I
think you have fewer than thirty nine games missed to injury.

(16:24):
I think M Kraken had the same defensive lineup for
seventy five of their eighty two games something like that.
So a lot of other things went into play that
year they made the playoffs, but ultimately it starts in
the defensive zone. You need a good defensive structure, and
I think you know defensives championships, right, yeah, I think

(16:46):
defense breeze offense as well.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm going to go down the list, Maddy beIN Ears
two years ago, Calder Trophy trying to get back to form.
Shane Wright bagging on the door for twenty goals, Ryker
Evans a young player on an upper tier defensive corps
in this league. Andre Berakowski can he rediscover the form
of two years ago and he played for Lane Lambert,

(17:11):
Berkeley Catton as well, could be right around the corner.
Yonnie Newman checking off every box that seemed from his
first NHL stint as a called up forward. Give me
one player you're looking at with intrigue as far as
who takes the next big step under Lane Lambert's watch.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh, I mean everybody you said, right, yeah, And I
mean I think I think all of those are good names.
But I mean, for me, it comes down to two players.
It comes down to Shane Wright and it comes down
to Mattie Neers. Those are the two that we have
said from day one are going to lead this team

(17:53):
to the Promised Land. You're going to be Matty Vandeer's
Shane Wright one to two or two to one, whatever,
right wherever you put them in your lineup, those are
going to be your top two centers for the next
fifteen years. That's the goal. So what level can Maddi
Vaneer's get back to. We saw the regression over the
past couple of seasons, although I think latter half of

(18:16):
this past season Maddy Vaneer's started to get back to
the Maddi Evaneers we saw year two. Last season, it
was a slow start for Shane Right, and I think
I think he ended beautifully. I've got no notes about
Shane Wright and the way that he played, you know,
his last fifty games of the year. But I think

(18:39):
for me, I need both of them to get to
the next level. Right, And I think you and I
had a conversation earlier this season about Shane Wright. What
would be what would be more important? We'll be bigger
for Shane right if he found a way to get
to fifty points this season, or if he comes back
next season and gets to forty goals and seventy points,

(19:02):
if he finds a way or thirty goals in seventy points,
if he finds a way to really just blow it
out of the water. So I think that's gonna be
for me. The most important take Filet Lambert is getting
the most out of the whole team obviously, But where
where's the ceiling of Matty Vaniers. I don't think we're
there yet. Where's the ceiling of Shane Wright. I know

(19:25):
we're not there yet. Getting the most out of those
two is going to be very, very vital, I think
for his success as a coach and this team's success
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
All right, I think I told you here a bit
too long. I think Wesley's talking at right now to
get back to backyard baseball.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Right, buddy. This kid he we don't use the team anymore.
Like he's going to go straight to coach pitch Like
I'm I'm lobbing up me balls and he's just crushing
them over my head. He broke his first window with
a baseball about a month ago, and I've never been
prouder of a broken ridow of my life.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Smashing windows. You smashing windows and smashing expectations.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh my goodness. We're in the park every day for
littlely an hour hitting baseball. We're in the driveway playing hockey.
He's picked up basketball, the little tikes plastic rim outside.
Like this kid is a sports obsessed kid. And you're right,
I think he's he's patiently waiting for dad to get

(20:26):
back to pitching the flash outfield duty.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's dad work. Fits. Appreciate you, Thanks, buddy.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Always a pleasure, Mikey, we'll talk to you.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
By the time we drag him out of the summer slumber.
I think he's got one day of rest under his
belt since going full tilt TV side here, Amazon side,
National Radio side. You can finally take a break soon
once he's done here with us. Finally, John Forsland joining
us here on overtime with Lane Lambert. Hire, Johnny, how
are you good to hear from you?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm good, Mike. I'm glad he didn't say we got
this guy at a moth balls. I thought that's where
you were going.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh, just you wait for later on in the podcast.
It still might happen. Oh it still might happen. Yeah, okay, yeah,
I'll say that for the Bengo card later. Let let's
us get down to Lane Lambert here. We're a day
we're a day out now from this happening. Lane Lambert
third head coach crack in history. We know what he's
all about as far as the word on defense. But

(21:26):
to you what you've seen, what kind of coach are
they get in here?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, I mean his reputation is pretty solid as a coach,
you know, as a career coach, as a guy who's
been able to, you know, learn under a legendary coach
and Barry Trot and take a lot of his principles
and implement those principles and like further those principles. Is
what he did with the New York Islanders. And that's
all good. It was a short sample size as a

(21:50):
head coach, and I'm sure people are going to look
at that and say, you know, what happened there. He
did get his team to the playoffs, he did get
his team in a position to win most games based
on how structured they were, and I'll get to all
of that. And I just think that he was probably
too much of an extension of Barry at the time
with the Islanders that they wanted a completely different approach,

(22:11):
and that's why Lou Lamarillo went to Patrick Wah who
currently is the coach of the Islanders. Now, what will
Lane do for the Kracket? I think the biggest need
You and I talked about it during the season. We
talked about it the post mortem. The Kraken need to
get organized defensively and need to play with way more
structure than they showed us last season, and Lane Lambert

(22:33):
can accomplish that. Lane Lambert is an excellent special teams coach.
His penalty killing groups have been legendary throughout his career
as an assistant associate head coach. The key here for
Lane Lambert is to come into the locker room and
be able to have enough credibility and there's a connection
with Jordan Everley which will help him, but be able

(22:55):
to connect with the veteran players. The young players will
get in line and they will do what they need
to do and we will see the page turn this
season with younger players on the NHL roster, But by
and large, the team's still going to be comprised of
players who were either with the Cracken from day one
or have been picked up in a short short order hereafter.
And those are the players that are going to have

(23:16):
to listen to this guy in training camp, listen to
what he wants in terms of the system. And I
think the team the way they played was aching for
some organization. They were aching for structure within their team game.
All of those principles, in my opinion, defensive principles will
lead to a sound game and don't worry about the offense.

(23:37):
If people say, and it's a fair assessment that the
team will be more boring to watch bog down, are
we going back to Dave Hackstall is say that Dave
Hastell two point zero. I've told you before. I think
Dave Hatsfell did a lot of great things for the team,
and I really believe that fundamentally, that's how you play hockey.
The two teams who are playing right now, including the

(23:58):
Edmonton Oilers, play from the defensive zone out. The thing
about the Oilers is they have two of the best
players in the world, and those two players can take
over a game. But Na Block is an excellent coach
and he completely conformed their team game. Same thing went
on in Florida. They went from a run and gun

(24:19):
offensive team under Joe Quinville and then Andrew Brunette to
what they have now with Paul Maurice. He adjusted their
defensive principles. So I think they're onto something. I don't
want to lead fans down a path of total euphoria.
And the Blue Skies are out and this is going
to be a great thing because we just don't know

(24:40):
to be fair to everybody involved here. Jason Votto is
just getting started with his menagerial career. We're going to
see very soon what that's all about. And this is
his first move and he must have total belief and
trust that this hire is exactly what the crack and
need at the time. There were some other names that
have been thrown around. Were they involved in the process,

(25:02):
where they closed, did they where they offered the job?
I don't know. I haven't talked to anybody regarding any
of that stuff, but I do know it's getting late
in the process, and what the Kraken have been able
to do here is get a coach with a sound
pedigree that's going to have a burn to prove everybody
that he can be a head coach in the NHL
lane had a very short period of time to kind

(25:23):
of prove that to everybody. It didn't work. So I
think he's hungry, and I think that might be a
really good dynamic in play too.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah. I'll get to that part in a bit, and
I love that. As John Forsland joins us. First off, though,
I think one thing that sticks out to me is
handling the back to back thing all and twelve for
the Kraken last season and Lane Lambert's record that one
full year in New York, the Islanders went eight six
and one second game back to back games. No promises

(25:51):
that will be duplicated, but it's a nice mark here
for the resume. So where do you see this fitting in? Yeah, Johnny,
where do you see this fit in with how defense
matters those kind of back to back games?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah? Yeah, So back to back schedule and record in
the Eastern Conference as opposed to the West is like
night and day. So remember in the Tri State area alone,
you can get in a cab or an uber and
go to your back to back game sometimes, So that's
not really what we're talking about in our market with

(26:22):
the Kraken and the amount of miles traveled with any
type of back to back with the exception of Vancouver,
So even in your division, if you're going to California,
you're looking at it maybe a two hour flight, right,
So that's something to be to take a look at
and keep that in mind. But the O to twelve

(26:43):
and the back to backs for me, I had nothing
to do with conditioning or wear and tear from travel
or the opponents and everything to do with how they
were organized on the ice. Getting back to my previous point,
you have to have a system in place that the
players know in their sleep. You have to have a
system in place that they can play defensively when fatigued,

(27:06):
that they know, if they've done the game down, they
can still be in a position with goaltending to eke
out a plaint maybe win the game in the third period.
You know, those those are the situations. Even if you're
at home, you know that's what you need. But when
you're kind of pressing the envelope, stretching out the ice,
and that's what I saw when I watched last year's
version of the Kraken, you're just not going to be

(27:29):
able to play a simple game. So simple hockey wins.
Simple hockey wins in a back to back. And I
do know this. I have no idea what kind of
program Lane's going to run, but I do know, based
on what I know from covering the league for a
long time and watching him work and who he worked for,
he knows how to do that. And when the Islanders

(27:51):
were going, when Jordan Everley was with the New York
Islanders and in and around the bubble and the pandemic
and all that. When they were a final fourteen, they
were as lock tight and defensive and good as a
Tampa Bay Lightning. They were close. And that's based on
goaltending and their team game. So their team game, which

(28:11):
addresses all your defensive principles, will make you a winner
in back to backs, and I think I'll bank on it.
I think you will see improvement. I think you will
see improvement because to me, it was just a lack
of trust with each other, which led to breakdowns, which
led to wide open hockey, which led to a lot
of confusion and no success in back to back.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You went on the KJR airwaves earlier and said something
that I thought was really important because Lane Lambert's been
around the game for over a decade and all but
one and a half seasons either with Barry Trots or
this last year in Toronto, and for one and a
half seasons. You said, Lane hasn't been given an opportunity.
A season and a half doesn't really cut it here

(28:52):
to prove yourself. Now we can talk about the environment
and the powers that be who he worked for on
Long Island. This is where I'm curious. Sophal maybe I
think a second chance to make a first impression matters
if I can put up that way. And I'll add this,
not everyone follows this path, but there's a reason why
guys like Bruce Cassidy, Scott Arneill and Mike Sullivan really

(29:13):
took off. They learned and they adapted. To get to
your point, Lane, Lambert Lane, Lambert's got that second chance.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, And the last gig he's coming off of in
Toronto was all about that. And he was, you know,
an associate head coach. He wasn't just an assistant. He had,
you know, Craig Beruby's ear a lot. I'm sure he was.
I know. He was a part and parcel to everything
they did shorthanded. He was the author of the penalty kill.

(29:41):
The Leafs had a great penalty kill all season. He
knows how to do that. But at sixty okay, and
again this is I sent this earlier today too. I'm
sixty three, so I'm a little bit high percented about
these numbers. At sixty okay, What Kraken fans are getting
here is a true hot man who's been in the
game a long time as a player, which has led

(30:04):
to this career coaching resume and when you get an
opportunity to finally be your own guy. And again, fortunately
it was for the same organization and was after a
legend like Barry Trot stepped aside. You know, he was
just kind of keeping thing the program going, but he
probably learned a couple of things that he'd liked to

(30:25):
do on his own under a different environment, a totally
different situation. And I think that's what we're getting. I
think that's what we're going to be able to watch.
And I would say that over his career, he's watched
the generations come and go, He's watched the game change.
He stayed in tune with everything, and it is possible
in your sixties, believe it or not, to be in

(30:46):
tune with everything and understand today's athlete and also the
veteran player. And that's what the Kraken have on their roster.
They're going to have an assortment of young players matriculating now,
but you still have the holdovers. You still have those players.
He's got to hit accord with Borakovsky every and all

(31:07):
the guys that are on the roster now. In September,
maybe some of those names are gone who knows, But
for right now, those are the people he has to
inspire and sell his program to. He's got to get
through to Montor and Stevenson and Alexiak and Larssen and done.
I mean, this is very, very important, and I think
the team was there because it was proven. Like in

(31:30):
Axtell's last season they were a top ten defensive team
and then that went away. And it went away last
year because the coach is trying really hard to score
more and he gets time marks for attempting that, but
it didn't work. And now I think Lane's going to
come in with a lot to prove, with veteran status
as a coach, which is a very interesting dynamic to watch.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It sounds like so far there's flexibility with how much
offense this team kim produced because you had to have
defensive fundamentals in place and the crack can still want
to play fast. That'll be a big sell here for
the new guys coming in. We'll see how long it
takes for Berkeley, Caton, Yannie Newman, etc. To get the
hang of it. But Johnny, where do you see this
fitting in with how Lane Lambert could manage the young

(32:12):
guys here?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Well, you know there's thirty two teams that want to
play fast. There's thirty two teams that want to win.
Playing fast is a great point that you bring up.
It's a stupe point because that's what we hear a lot,
and that's what and that's where the game has gone. Right.
So the game is played with a high level of
skill within the constraints of sound principles defensively. So I'm

(32:34):
just going to say this now. I'll say it midsummer,
I'll say it to you in training camp. I'll say
it to you when we talk into the wee hours
of the night after games. Okay, defensive hockey leads to
good offensive hockey. The two teams playing again are showing
us that right now, Edmonton and Florida. But you have
to you have to be there, and in order to

(32:57):
get there, you know you're going to be comfortable in
some games that are low scoring, and you know what,
that's going to get you to a better place as
a team. So I think he understands that he would
not be in any conversation with any managerial group if
he wasn't looked at as a mind that's in the
now right now, And I do think on this point,

(33:19):
we're seeing a generational shift with some of the coaches
and some of the old guard are still around and
getting recycled through because they've earned it, and some of
the older guard are going to have a hard time
getting back in. And there are new coaches now that
are coming, and there are opportunities that are going to
be there someday for a Jay Leech and a Mitch
Love and these other names that are bantered about right now.

(33:40):
Some of those guys will get a job right now.
Marco Sturm's another name. I mean, these are guys Manny
Mahulture up the road. These are these are coaches that
are coming, okay, And Lane Lambert is kind of a
hybrid where he's got to understand the principles of today's
game because he's been buy and large an assistant and

(34:02):
those are the guys that have to really sell it
to the players and hear whether they like something or
not because they won't talk to the head guy about it.
But again, he has some head coaching experience and the
want to prove to everybody that he can be And
so to me, that's interesting because it's not a guy
in his early forties mid forties who's just starting like

(34:22):
Spencer Carby was able to do. That's an interesting story
and a great one, but this is kind of the
same situation, but a guy with just a touch more experience,
which makes it interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'll hold that to you here for the late nine
hours thing, and I can't wait to call you when
you and ed Zora in the car on the way
back home and turn this soul into a conference called
This is going to be YouTube quality, I swear, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Well, you know, I'm still hanging around him. It's unbelievable
trying to shake them. But I said goodbye to him
and Raleigh the other night, and it was I will
say it was very amicable. It was nice.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, you take your nap, all take mine, and we'll
talk to you in a few months here. Ah well,
now now we'll send it. The workload's over now for you, Johnny.
How are you managing life at the Forestland State East
Coast Chapter.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, I had a law school graduation for my son
a couple of weeks ago in Pittsburgh, which was great.
We're getting everything in order for our summer. It's really
a time where I'm going to relax, going to enjoy
the final. I might be involved maybe next year with
a Stanley Cup final. We'll see. So season is a

(35:31):
long one and I did a lot of games this year.
Thank god it was healthy and had a lot of fun,
and like every year with the Kraken, it's been some
of the best years of my career. And you know,
around the end of August we'll start to get a
little lantsy, but not you know, I am going to
really enjoy the time off here and reconnect for all

(35:53):
the right reasons. I what I need to do. But
it's going to be exciting the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I think we're going to see a draft, We're going
to see a hopefully an aggressive off season. I hope
we're going to see Jason put his mark on the team.
It's needed, it's been talked about, but it's go time.
You know, everything's nice, everything sounds good, but the team
has some areas they want to address. They want to

(36:19):
you know, flourish and other in areas of the game
that they did not, and hopefully with Lane Lambert, this
is the first step in that direction.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I love it. Can't wait. Family first as well, Big
codos in the job that you do, sir, you crush it.
We love you, Hey, Johnny, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Okay, Mike, you take care.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
On the TV panels side. And this wouldn't be an
official podcast without the Mayor of Maple Valley, Ian Forness,
joining us here on the emergency podcast of over Time.
I and I hope I haven't bothered you too much
here from your run of the show over at your
place you're stopping grounds at Druid's Glenn enjoying the cole

(37:01):
beverage now or if you're back at home. But appreciate
you doing.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
This, buddy.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Absolutely, Mikey, how are you?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'm good. Let's talk. Let's wrap about this because Lane
Lambert is a candidate. I don't think many of us
saw coming about a month and a half ago. And
I think where the Cracking are at right now as
far as their window versus other teams, like where Mike
Sullivant went with the Rangers, like where we're talk It

(37:27):
also went, and you can easily identify the Cracking and
the Flyers are neck and neck, but talk It's got
that long standing relationship out there for what this team
wants to accomplish, experience matters unless you find a young
coach that checks all the boxes. And I tend to agree,
and I tend to see maybe where Mitch Love was

(37:48):
in this thing for the long haul based on reports,
and yet I think what really set this team up
to going with Lambert, as far as what's on the
resume may is where this team was set up last season,
in the second leg of back to back games, they
were zero to twelve. In Lambert's only full season with

(38:10):
the Islanders, they went eight six and one.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, well, I mean, let's let's I think that's one
of the many things that I look at with this team.
To be honest with you or with this higher I
should say, you know, let's let's start with just a
guy that structure wise, especially in the defensive zone. He
was in charge of Toronto's penalty kill. He checks the

(38:34):
boxes there. I wouldn't put him. I think the one
thing Mikey I would not put him in the category
of and I don't want to. I hate this term,
but you know it does apply sometimes. You know, hear
the retreads, you know term all the time. Yeah, he's
a one He's a one time NHL head coach, right

(38:54):
like you know, with the Islanders and we could all
discuss how disfunctional that place was, you know, and what
was going on in the front office and what he
had to deal with there. You know, he's been an
assistant coach and associate coach a long time, various levels,
head coach in the dub head coach in the American League.

(39:16):
But at the age of sixty, the guy that has
a ton of experience was a solid player and I
think he checked some boxes. He's not the sexiest name,
you know, He's not a name that was being cast around.
But frankly, how often did those names, you know, come
to fruition or even sometimes work out? And I think

(39:37):
in this case, you know, they went out and they
got the guy. I will just say this. I want
to say this again. You know, Jason Botero, both on
the radio with me and also in the chat that
we did with the season ticket holders a week six seven,
eight days ago with Adamant and you know, talking to
those guys on and off the air, and they did

(39:58):
not offer the job to somebody else. This is the
misnomer out there that they offered it to Pocket and
he turned them down. I don't I believe they've probably
talked to him and they reached out to him. Yeah,
but like this isn't this wasn't necessarily like option number
three or four, like will be portrayed by many in

(40:18):
the hockey media, and you know how the hockey media
works as well as anybody might. That's how it will.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Get It is the ultimate game of telephone.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Really it is, and it really is. And you know,
rarely do you offer a job to somebody that you
would think that you think, you know has to think
about it and would consider it. And maybe you know,
you're not going to offer job most of the time
to someone who's not going to take it. So I
think in that regard, you know, we got to be
careful as far as who you know, Lane Lambert is

(40:48):
time will tell I I this and we can talk
about it. This organization is not in full blown rebuilt
boat and people that think it is are just they
don't get it. They don't understand it. And I looking
at the roster, they've got holes, They got a lot
of work to do in the offseason. But you know,
I think this is a good step in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Defense is one of the main reasons also, if not
the main reason why Lane Lambert was brought in because
we saw what happened and defensively with this team, matters
in their structure got lost within the current of them
really trying to dial up the offense. And this is
an addition here to the record of back to back situations.

(41:26):
But Lane Lambert helped design the structure that the Islanders
had and the Capitals adopted when he was with Barry
Trotz on that bench. And if you're the guy, and
if you're one of the guys who is helping build
this thing from the ground up with a defensive icon
like Trotz was when he was a head coach, that
speaks waves and that will get you noticed. And the

(41:49):
one thing that sticks out to me from all of
this ian what do we see from top teams like
the Kings, the Golden Knights, Winnipeg, Big Florida, Dallas, et cetera.
They've got aircraft carriers and this team still lacks one.
Maybe and we'll see what this off season brings because

(42:11):
they pledge to be aggressive. But what do they all have.
They are educated and they are programmed with disciplined defensive fundamentals.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
And and let's start with just defensive fundamentals start with
the back end, doesn't it. And they're in pretty good
shape there with their core four and include Riker is
number five, who's obviously you know, an RFA and a
priority to resign as Jason Botterrell sold us in the

(42:41):
off season. You know, they're setback there. They're in good
shape on the back end. They've got a true number
one goaltender and Joey the Cord you know, so that's
a good place to start from and all those things.
You're right, they still need an aircraft here. Look, and
I don't know if you can get that in the
off season, but they need somebody to you know, they
need help offensively. I'd be really curious Toe what his
staff looks like, Mike. I think that's the next step.

(43:04):
What does the staff look like? You know, what's what's
going to put together. But these guys did their due diligence.
They spent time. They didn't rush into it, you know.
I mean you look at a lot of the hires
around you know, the NHL and the offseason in terms
of coaches, and there's a lot of guys that got
hired immediately right and and you know, right off the
get go. And I like the fact that they took

(43:24):
their time. I like the fact that they waited a
little bit. And obviously Toronto was in the playoffs, but
you know, not for very long, and but they did
get to that point, and and here we are. I
I really am excited to see what what this guy
is able to do. I'm excited to see what the
off season brings because I think that's an important part
of the piece of the puzzle, too, right, is what

(43:46):
this off season brings to the team. What does Leane
Lambert have to work with That's the biggest question, right,
And I think.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, And I also go back here to the young
player component of this in that we'll see what they
can do here for this offseason. We're trying to add
more and more, but we know that they're going to
give younger players serious looks. On this roster, Berkeley Catton
could be nine games away from being told to go
find an apartment. Yonnie Newman chucked off virtually every box

(44:16):
here on this roster. So I think for me, one
of the ultimate questions besides how does Lane Lambert maybe
handle dynamics with coaching in the Western comments, you know,
because don't forget. His only other place he coached was
with the New York Islanders, and that is an incredibly
easy circuit of travel because you have the Rangers nearby,
the Devil's nearby, the Flyers, the Penguins, Capitals, et cetera.

(44:40):
It's a different beast coaching in the West. But I
think aside from that is how will he handle young
players who need maybe a longer lease here to develop.
And one thing I'm curious, where does he taped in
akin to what he did when he was in the
Predators organization in the American Hockey League, and he was

(45:01):
instrumental with helping guys grow in the likes of Roman
yos Peca Rene and Patrick Cornquist.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
And you can go.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Even further back if you want, because I mean his
first coaching job was in Moose Shot in the dub
young guys, His first head coaching job was with Prince
George in the dub uh and then obviously he goes
an assistant coach in Bridgeport in the A and then
as a head coach as you mentioned, with the Preds
affiliate with Milwaukee. So like he's he's dealt with young guys, you know,

(45:35):
And there's something he's worked his way up, you know
as well in all those regards. What you're saying in
terms of roster construction is really interesting because you know,
I think I agree with you. I mean, I think Berkeley,
for sure, barring something Unforeseeen Berkeley is going to be
here at start the season, and Newman is going to
be here next season. I don't think there's any question

(45:55):
about that that he's going to be a full time
NHL player. They still need to add some of the pieces,
and then you get into roster construction. They've already resigned Hayden.
I think that. My guess is they want to resign
Amon as well and bring him back in for some depth.
But they're still rocking out. You know, they're going to
be very active. When I had him on the air

(46:19):
on the radio last week Thursday last week, he said,
Jason Barbero, that is, he made a point of saying, Hey,
you know, I could ask him, what is a pre
agency you go after? What do you do? When he says,
I think it's more likely you see us add to
our roster via trade, Well that's great, you can add
via trade, but if you're at you know, it's not

(46:39):
just draft picks, you're trading at that point of prospect,
you're probably deleting as well. So you know, what is
or what is Leigh Lambert thinking this current roster? How
do they do that? So it's a fun time coming up.
And now that they've got a coach that has coached
those young guys and you mentioned some of young guys.
We didn't mention Maddie and Shane. They still fall into
that category of young guy right as well.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, yeah, we'll get some more Mailbank questions here in
a bit. But Ianel lob one at you this from
the handle cracking Tip on Twitter and x and saying,
do they give Lane Lambert the ability to pick his
own staff? There was nothing that he saw that scream
that you know, anyone could come back special teams mediocre

(47:21):
at best. That from Cracking Tip on Twitter and X.
Here's what we know back for sure will be Jessica Campbell.
And there have been reports that the entire bench staff
has been retained, and we'll get confirmation on this here,
but it actually is not out of the ordinary for
a head coach to come in and already have his
own bench staff installed. This happened previously with the New

(47:44):
York Islanders when Lane Lambert was there as well. Barry
Trotz brought him on, and believe he also brought their
goaltending coach in Mitch Corn as well. But we'll get
a good feel here for this. I would at least
go here in saying that with depending on what they have.
I think you can really sense there's going to be
a heavy influence with Lane Lambert on the penalty kill

(48:06):
because we went back here to this. Lane Lambert has
been terrific at the penalty kill. He made Toronto marginally better,
but he had some great units with the Islanders. And
also I think the question bears to what will his
hand be as far as what's gonna I'll start over here,
where where will his hand guide this power play?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well? And who guy's the power play? I mean, we
know Jess is back and she is that is that
still her role?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (48:35):
Like?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
That's I mean, you know, roles can change along the way.
Seebrier is he back? You know, I think the work
that he did with Joey Decord speaks for herself. You know,
I think that's it. You know, I do think you
have to give a coach some ability to put his
own staff together. I mean, I think we saw a
little bit of that with the one and done here

(48:55):
with Dan Biles when he brought Jess up from from Coachella,
and then obviously Bob Witz came in. Lowery was retained.
I believe that that Lowry's contract is up and the
other two still are under contract, that you can't buy
them out. But so that part of it, I am curious.

(49:16):
Style of play. I know that Bartorella said that they
want to get back to where they were two years
ago and they played such a fast game. Obviously they played,
you know, kind of a borderline fast and physical game.
I mean the amount of hits and it hits are
a weird stat right Like, it doesn't always translate to
actually the physical play, but I think sometimes you can
look at it when they were at their apex in

(49:38):
the playoffs a couple of years ago. This is a
team that was for checking hard. They're hitting everything in sight,
They're playing with speed. I know they want to get
back to that style. So you know, does he bring
assistance in that? Can they kind of They can dictate
that a little bit as well. That remains to be seen.
The personnel's there, it's just it's this is just another

(49:59):
step in the problem. This draft coming up at the
end of the month. I just I'm excited. I like
roster building. I think that's a fun part of any
sport is loster building, whether it's free agency, drafting, what
have you. Obviously, in the NHL, when you draft, it's
not immediate for the most part. I mean, there are
exceptions with the dollars, he'll bring you guys like that,
but by and large, when you're drafting in the NHL,

(50:19):
it's a couple of years away. But you're still roster building,
and you still have guys coming up, and you know,
at number eight they got a chance to make an impact.
There's a couple of guys that may slip down to
that point that could probably step in within a year
or two. So yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Ian appreciate this. This makes me salivate once again for
hockey season. We got a draft first, though, we got
free agency, hostile of all of that. But man is
always appreciate you, and I can least appreciate the fact
that I didn't chase your way here after keeping you
on the air for too long.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
No problem, and you know, hockey season still underway. Last
I checked me on the Stanley Cup final coming up,
so there are some teams still playing.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I still stand by my prediction I made on Shot
and Buck three weeks ago, and the Florida Panthers are
going to repeat. That might be music to anders Hurst's ears.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
He's happy right now, he's happy. I personally would like
to see the oilers, you know, Vonton Alberta, Canada to
be a champions provincial capital of albert I like to
see them win it. But that's just me. I think
I'd like to see Canada to get the cut back.
I love how Florida plays it to be a hell
of a series.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
But oh, I can't wait. I mean, I'm fully expecting
something like a seven game absolute cinema piece like we
saw it last time we had a repeat final like
back in two thousand and nine Red Wings and Penguins.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yeah, well, I mean we can see that. I mean,
And the question is which Stuart Skinner shows.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Up right, yep?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Is it the one? Is it the one that gave
up that third goal on Thursday at five hole that
was just awful? Or is it the one that was
has been really lights out as he came back from
once Picker got her. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
And then the question is do they actually do do
the handshake line with the coaches at.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
The very end? Ah, don't get me started. I mean,
I know we all love I know we all love
Paul Marie. He's a great quote and all that.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
You know what, the shotgunning of beer and shirts quote though,
was an all timer.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
You have to admit that, Yeah, that is but diating
how hockey is and how hockey series ends. I come on, man,
that's not your plate. You're not the lord of all things.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I can't wait. Best of seven and mic O seven.
Let's get it go and let's get it Onnie and
appreciate you, Thank you buddy anytimes.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Captain, thanks.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Mayor, appreciate you as always. Thank you very much for
doing this, Ian forness joining us, also Big Banks as well,
ever it fits you, John Forestland hanging out with us
as well. Before we go, I want to get to
a couple of questions here, and again we wanted to
hear your response via Twitter and X you can find
me at Benton Underscore. Mike. We get one question here
from Paul asking will they be moving Vince done before

(53:02):
the draft or at the trade deadline, the defensive personnel
doesn't match the lane Lambert system. Here's where I go
with this. You have to have a certain pedigree of
players who can play the way that you want to play. Obviously,
meaning Vin's done can move the puck. If a veteran
Adam Larson plays a steady role. Brandon Montur who can

(53:23):
play a great two way game, arguably the best defenseman
for the team this last season pushing twenty goals, he
fits well. Jamie Alexiak if you put him in the
right spots as well, terrific shot blocker, plays a thirty
game when he's at his best, just like Larsen. I'm
really curious here where Riker Evans fits and then where
they go to fill that sixth defenseman spot. Josh Mhurris

(53:45):
contract is up. We saw Villi Ottavinen get a bit
of a look there. So where they go to fill
that spot? Who knows, but I thought Jordan Eberley on
Ian Fornessa's show earlier today made a great point about structure,
and it doesn't have the same field where you're just
sitting back playing nineties trap hockey like the Devils, and
you're trying to win games one nothing in two to one.

(54:07):
By the way, the Devil's at a goaltender in Martainbrodor
who turned out to be one of the all time
greatest and not the greatest in NHL history. The point
we're making here is that the krack and know what
they want to do and how they want to play.
They want to play fast, and what Jordan every mentioned
as far as structure, I thought was a big piece
of this, and that you have to have players on
the same page and know where to be in your

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spots when breakout passes are ready to go, and Vince
Dunn excels at the breakout pass, Brandon Montur excels at
the breakout pass. You have to have those kind of
quality players to succeed in your lineup, and this arguably
is one of the up rachelon defensive core teams here
for this entire league. So I don't see much change
in that. Do the krack and want to maybe move

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a contract here if it means bringing in a bigger
name up front, that's a different conversation, But again we
don't know about the things usually until the eleventh hour
when trade talks are happening, and you're gonna see a
move made like right around, perhaps at the NHL Draft
or to begin in the hot Stoveseason. Plenty of quality
names out there who could be dealt. I think of

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JJ Patterka. Well that cost Fend's done. I don't know,
but as of right now, you don't want to mess
too much with this defensive core, and I think it
plays just fine here to the way that Lane Lambert
could see this team going here as far as his structure,
and again it goes back to defensive fundamentals, but then
finding a way to keep the puck in your hands

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and then generate offense responsibly as well. So that's where
I think that certainly hits one question here from W
Harrison fifty one, that's to handle at Twitter and next,
what are some of the potential options for assistant coaches specifically,
is there anyone we can bring in to get the
power play going? Thank you very much. That's a great question.
We do know that returning this year will be Jessica Campbell.

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That was already confirmed when we heard Jason Botterol take
over the Reins at his press conference back in April. Reportedly,
the entire bench staff has been retained Jessica Campbell, Bob Woods,
Dave Lowry as well, So where they go with this
on the power play. We've seen Bob Woods his hand
in the power Play. We've seen Jessica Campbell's hand on

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the power Play as well for her side. So where
they go with this, that's a matter of a question
where I think it'll be clarified more when Lane Lambert
is introduced to the media in the next several days
coming up here in Seattle. We do know that special
teams was an issue. The Crack and power Play ranked
twenty third this year. They have terrific talent to be

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able to be productive. Vince Dunn, great trigger man on
the point, Random Montur great trigger man on the point.
Jered McCann, who had a bit of a down year
but still could experience some offensive uptick, Matty Benier's as well,
Shane Wright with his shot. We'll see what they can do,
maybe with a bit of a different look and some
familiarity with Lane Lambert and Andre Berrokofski. Don't forget he
coached Burski with the Washington Capitals. There's Schwartz, There's Everly,

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there's Stevenson to consider, what if they get somebody else
and via free agency or trade? Where does Jonny Newman
fit into all of this? So this is one question
mark where I'm looking forward to seeing answered in the
oncoming days. It may even take must depending upon what
they do to shuffle some responsibilities, but I think that
will certainly be at the forefront here with the issues

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the crack and want to resolve all right, that we'll
do it here for this emergency overtime podcast. Again, big
thanks once more to everet fits you, to John Forest Lynn,
to Ian Farnest for hanging out with us once again.
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this next season once again, Lane Lambert named third head
coach in Seattle. Crackenhastory previously associated coach of the Toronto
Maple Leafs, and Lambert taking over now for a cracking
team trying to get back into the postseason after missing
out over the last two years. Once again, big thank
you for joining us. Not too far away here from

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the NHL Draft Hostos season, he plugged in with us
right here in the meantime, enjoy the Stanley Cup Final
and for overtime, I'm Mike Benton. Thanks for pushing play.

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