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We're going to cover a lot here on the hire
of Lane Lambert, new crackenhead coach, introduced to the Seattle
media on Monday at crack In Community ice Plex. And
we'll go over Lane's philosophy, the defensive minded part of
his persona this offseason. Coming up here for the Crack
n plus our look at the Stanley Cup Final and
your questions in our mailbag segment with Ian Furness, the
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one and only Mayor of Maple Valley, joining us, me,
you and everyone in a bit. You can find me
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course one to three weekdays ninety three three KJIRFM, Crack
and Hockey Network TV hosts will be with us in
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just a bit. That plus also our first conversation with
Lane Lambert on the Crack and Audio Network right around
the corner and before Ian joins us, the Lane Lambert
era becoming official on Monday. That coming to the surface
on face to face level for the first time since
his hiring back on May thirtieth, Lambert has got the
task of getting the most out of the Kraken young
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players and experienced plus also get them back to the
postseason for the first time since twenty twenty three. After
his news conference Monday, there's more to learn on his
vision philosophy, Ice time for younger players and what kind
of a team the Crack and want to be. Lambert
had more in our first one on one with the
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Emerald Queen, Casino Crack and Audio Network. Right here, join
down by a new Crack and head coach Lane, Lambert Lane,
You've been through this journey quite a while, assistant coach.
You came up in Nashville. You want a cup in Washington.
You got a taste of what a head coach's job
is like. With the Islanders, you get a year to
make an impact also in Toronto. What does this stage
of your career mean to you in Seattle?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It means everything I think, you know, as you go
along and as you gain experience, and as you get opportunity,
and you know, this is my second opera tunity, having
coached the Islanders previously, but my second opportunity to head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So it's a huge, huge.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Honor and it you know, I'm just I'm super privileged
to be able to do this.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Flying into town here, what was the first thing that
hits you about where you and family get to live,
work and play?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Flying into town looking out the window.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I'm from Western Canada, so I have a little bit
of an idea, I guess, but just the beauty of
it and the topography, like the undulations, and it was
it was a bit of an eye opener. I'm not
gonna lie. I've been here before, but usually in the
you know, in the hockey season, getting out towards you know,
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some of the areas, the bellevue'es or Kirklands or whatever,
and seeing what's out there.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's a beautiful, beautiful city.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What does someone like you take away in your first
few trips here to Seattle in previous stops understanding of
what this place is like now for.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You, well, you know here.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Here's what I'll say is that this this place, this city,
the organization, the franchise, first class all the way. And
you know, that's what drew me to it within the
first five minutes of my conversation with you know, Jason,
Ron and Samantha. And feel very fortunate that you know,
I was able to get the job. But certainly I
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think that you know, being out on the East Coast
for me, for you know, basically my entire coaching career,
you don't realize, you know, just exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
What you're missing when you get here and I'm glad
to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Barry Trotz is someone that you spent a lot of
time with around in this league. He said, A key
to coaching one time is to quote coach the roster
end quote, meaning take what you're given and coach it
up if necessary. So for instance, taking offensively a Ligne
team maybe and teach them defensively. So at first glance,
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what do you get to coach here?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Well, I think you get coach both really, to be
honest with you, and I think the philosophy is to
coach both. And you know, there's a fine line between
balancing one and the other. If you're too heavy in
the offensive side of it, you know you're gonna give
up scoring chances and it might not work out for you.
If you're too heavy defensively, you may not create enough
scoring chances. But I you know, I think the two
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go hand in hand. And you know with that you've
got support.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
In all three zones.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
You're you know, it's a five man mentality when you're
out on the ice, and you know you can have
success by having support and helping each other out and
being improper structure. And there's no question that you coach
the roster you have. My philosophy is there's a way
to win every game, no matter what injuries, fatigue, whatever
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it might be, and that structure is your safety blank
and that structure is the reason that you can win
every game.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You have some familiarity on this roster, beginning with your
captain Jordan Eberley. What can fans understand about this roster
in regards to where they can go offensively versus what
we'll define them defensively?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, I think, you know, I think there's there's always
strides to to to improve in all areas, not just.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
The offensive side, but the defensive side.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
And I think part of, uh, you know, part of
our structure will allow us to be better offensively.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
We will have the pop back sooner and we'll be
able to transition, you know. And and the other side
of it is that we've got we've got good.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Young, talented blurs, and you know, if they're in position
and in structure and able to transition offensively, they can
you know, they can create offense.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I love how you brought that up, because you coast
some great players previously over the years, chronologically, Roman Yosi,
Philip Forsberg, Alex Elvechkin and Nicholas Backstrom, Matt Barzel. Everly,
as we mentioned this well too then you had Minch
marnar Rosta Matthews in Toronto. For the young players coming up,
what can they learn about how those players and what
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makes them go as far as they're approach to the
game and get the coaches trust for the most.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Size time, Well, it's uh, you know, the one thing
about the National Hockey League is it's it's the best
league in the world, and you have to pay attention
to the littlest of details, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
If you don't, your chances have had success are a
little bit less.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And so the biggest thing and the biggest thing to
gain trust is to be responsible.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Wherever, wherever, the wherever it is.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know, you can have the puck in the offensive zone,
be responsible with it, don't turn it over high at
the blue line and allow the other team in two
on one back, you know, be responsible in a defensive
zone if you're supposed to be you know, if you're
supposed to be in position, be in that position. So
the responsibility factor leads into trust, and trust will lead
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into success.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Ye had a nephew made it pretty big out here
in the w HL and Lambert, Yeah, Seattle Thunderbird. What
do the WHL for?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You mean for your care Well, it started my career.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
It was where I was noticed and and and got
drafted out of Saskatoon way back when.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And you know it's you have certain moments in life,
everybody has them, and you know where you make a decision.
I was in Swift Current, Saskatchewan, playing for the Swift
Current Broncos at that time. They were a Tier two team,
Saskatcheon junior team, and Saskatoon called, and so was I
gonna go? Or was I going to stay in Swift Current?
You know, and moved away from the family and went
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for it. And you know, here we are today.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Go back to your playing career. Who was the toughest
guy that you ever had to face?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:41):
The toughest guy, I would probably, you know, I mean
we might have to say Dave Simenko. You know, I
think probably he was the He was certainly the most
ominous guy.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The good the good news was as we had Bob
Probert on our team, so that helped.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
No one touches Gretzky, right, no one.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Finally, I love how you mentioned the word aggressing this
earlier in your news conference today, when it comes hand
to hand with structure and then moving the puck up
ISAs as well. What's your vision with this group and
what they should be known for.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well, we're going to play fast and we're going to
be on our toes. You know, you can't have success
by backing up, you can't have success by playing on
your heels. So we'll be an aggressive team.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
We'll have a.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
North mentality, and then when we don't have the puck wheel,
make sure that we we're going south and getting it back.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Words of wisdom, Lane, Welcome to Seattle. Thank cards, wisdom.
All right, onto where we go? Mayra Maple Valley joining
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to the Lane Lambert reaction, I loved hearing Ian Todd
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lightwiki on with you Wednesday, and I think you put
it best. When you meet Todd, you get perspective of
how much as vision intersects with success. Look at the Seahawks,
look at the Tampa Bay lightning. And I'm just using
two teams in his previous jobs as an example. But
we're reminded that today means the bill was due on
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the Dan bilesma era, which unfortunately was short lived. And
Todd Leiwickie is not your average CEO to just sit
back and get complacent. He like others, wants to hit
the gas to make this thing better.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Yeah, I think you have to appreciate that as a fan,
whether you were a fan of the Seahawks back and
you know the days that thought was running at that
organization or now with the Crack ind and you know,
it's you know, he said, it's not for the faint
of heart, you know, and good people sometimes lose their
jobs because you know, in professional spurts, it's result dates.
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I think we need to look back. We talked about
it during the course of season, but you know, I
know you talked to Ron Francis quite often, as do I.
The I can remember numerous conversations with Ron on the
air off the air, and his frustration was evident. The
lack of structure, the lack of responsibilities in their own end,
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the things that we saw that he sees that, you know,
as a Hall of Famer and you know, a lot
of time in the league and he knew what was
going on, and it just wasn't working, and you know,
for whatever reason, and they made the decision to move on.
And while not happy that a good guy like Dan
Miles a lost job, I'm happy then I think you
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should be happy to cracking fan that they're not complacent
and it wasn't working. You know, there's a lot of
times that people in any business, any walk in life,
whether it's the hockey, other sports, help broadcasting. Sometimes you
just make a bad higher. And if you make a
bad higher, well you can try to, you know, hope
it gets better, or you can just move on. And
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most of the time it's a lot better just to
cut your time, cut your loses, and move on. And
that's what they did, and I like it. I think
might be's kind of fun if we fun. But I
get it's an interesting thing. If we look back to
that infamous road trip that they had where Todd li
Wicki was on the trip and he's like, no, I'm
a hockey fan. I just wanted to go see some games.
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Bron's on the trip. Ron's on most trips anyway. But
you know, they that decision was probably made what was
that mid February, That decision was probably made them and
they just said, well, at this point, we're just going
to hold on to the rest of the season. But
as obvious things weren't working. It's really obvious things weren't
working because of the exception of Jessica Campbell, and you know, frankly,
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there's a lot of other things to play there with
that exception that you know, Bob Woods is gone, the
Lowry's gone, these for years gone. I mean they cleaned
house and they're starting over, and it's todd LYWICKI wants
to win. He also has to answer to ownership. If
he tells us hold us on Wednesday on the radio
show and just told you and others listen, they spent
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more money on an expansion franchise than anybody else in
hits me the NHL. They spent one point one billion
or north of that on a building. They have to
answer to their investors and the only way to do
that is to win.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
We'll get to the coaching staff part of this under
Lane Lambert in a bit. But I think for me,
Lane Lambert originally was a name that came out of
left field. Same goes for others, I think when they're
tossing around names on the national level here about this
whole process. But the one thing that stuck with me,
you get coaches who can be draconian, you can get
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coaches who can be very laid back. He and I
found Lane Lambert to have a good mix of authority
and warmth. And there's one word I think that fits
this perfectly. Where experience matters, especially in this situation, it's presence.
He's got presence and if you want to win a
room over from what I've learned over the years of
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different head coaches, you as well, that is an absolute must.
What's your first impression on Lane Lambert after Monday.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Well, I'll take a step back first. I think that
for me, Mike can and listen to a lot of
people going into this once the decision was made to
get rid of Dan Bylsma and and let him go
and find a new head coach. Fans, media, all of us,
we all had probably our personal preferences, and some of
it was if you're fan, maybe just named familiarity, the
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rick talking to the world. Guys like that Ard Dallance,
you know, name your unemployed coach that you know it
was out there that you recognize and do the name personally,
and I'm sure you would agree. I mean, there was
a big part of me rooting for Mitch Love to
become quote unquote back home the former Silver Kip Players
is the coach, and you know, I'm a fan of
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Mitch and he's up and coming guy.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He's going to be somewhere. It is a matter of
not of not if, but when I think.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Right, absolutely yeah, And this just wasn't the right This
wasn't the right fit, not for what they're looking to do.
Because let's understand one thing that is not a rebuild.
We've talked about this on this podcast a number of times.
Not a rebuild. It's it's just not with it, not
with the salary gap or not with the salaries that
you have on the books, the people you've invested in,
the young players coming up. This is not a rebuild.
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This is a team that's closer than it is further away.
So they need to have some experience. I think communications
big and the ability to communicate and and so, and
we don't see everything behind closed doors, when the rooms,
when the doors closed in the locker room and things
like that. But you don't have to necessarily be John
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Tortorella or Paul Maurice on the podium, but you have
to be able to communicate, and you have to be
able to sell everyone, including the players most importantly players,
but others on your vision and what you're doing. And
Dan Biosa wasn't to do that. So not knowing and
not hearing a lot from a guy who is an
associate coach in Toronto and before that as a long
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kind of assistant in the NHL, briefly a head coach
with the Islanders in the NHL, a long time in
the AHL, and all that. Not hearing a lot and
knowing a lot about Willanne Lambert, I think all of
us are kind of waiting to see what it was
all about. And once we did, I think we became
more and more impressed. There is a presence about him.
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There is certainly the it factor. I think that you
see there's a no nonsense, but there is a personality there.
But his ability to communicate and articulate what he wants
to see and get done, I think is really important
and I think it came through both initially in the
press conference. Other than one on one interviews, we had
an event at the CACI on Wednesday with some former
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season ticket members, original people first on the list back
in twenty eighteen, whatever it was that the list that
for whatever reason aren't involved anymore. We did kind of
a panel discussion. He shined rightly in that. You know,
I'm impressed so far with Lei Lambert. It won't matter
if you can't win hockey games. But I'm impressed by
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what I've seen with him so far, and I'm excited
to see what the head he's.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Got built in relationships He's mentioned this year with Andre Berrokowski,
with Jordan Eberley. I mean, of course, is Philip Rubauer
back in that. But I think one intriguing storyline out
of the storylines is handling the young guys. And he
mentioned this in our one on one with me, in
that he's expecting young players and what they can learn
from guys he's coached, from Roman Yosi to Alex Olveschkin,
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even to Mitch Martyr and Austin Matthews is be responsible. Yeah,
don't turn it over high at the blue line and
allow it to on one and that leads into trust,
and trust leads to success. This is a chance right
for the picking if you're Berkeley Caton or Yonnie Neumany,
and it leads to I think how this team wants
to play. He's defensive minded, but don't let that lead
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you to thinking that this is going to be something
right out of the dead puck ear back in the
mid nineties. They want to play fast like any other
team in this league, and the purpose of defense is
to get the puck back, not just sit in your
own zone. And at this point today we're seeing a
blend of what he's picked up maybe here from his
first head coach stop and what the krack can want
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to do. And we know they're not going to sit back.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
No. I think that's one hundred percent correct. You know,
sometimes you get you know, stereotypes, kicking a hold into
a certain you know, people want to put you in
a certain category. For him, you know, he worked on
the Island with lou labnerel A. The people are like, well,
this is be boring hockey, and you know that's that's
how late Lambert's going to be, and on and on,
and you know the way he did the GM there
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wanted to play and it was I mean, it's I'm
not gonna go fall full fallvis then on you. But
it was hard to watch the times. Ley Lambert's much
more than that. But I think it's a lot like, yeah,
first of all, you've got to get the fuck and
then you've got to transition the money. Well, I mean
those are important things in important items, and I would
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expect a team and Jason Bardil said this too, and
I think That's what's important is to jams on the
same page. They want to play fast and they want
to have a transition team, you know, but they have
to be more responsible defensively. They gave up way too
many goals last year, especially when you have an elite
goaltender like Joey the court, when you have an elite
defensive corps with you know, Larsen Gunn, montur alexiak Evans,
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I throw them a hur in that mix as well, Riker.
I mean, there's no excuse for that team to be
as bad defensively, and then you're a good defensive forwards too.
Obviously it's not just the d playing, you know, on
inside their own blue line. There was no excuse for
that last year. Yeah, So they'll be better defensively, and
I think offensively they'll be better. You know, we can
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talk about Caton and Newman, but there's no chance, there's
no doubt those guys will get a chance to take
that next step. And I'm I'm really optimistic, or maybe
I'm blindly optimistic in a sense, but I'm optimistic about
what this team could do next year.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Onto the coaching staff. Part of this a news bro
today that Bob Woods was relieved of his duties. Ian
hinted at this earlier. First off, great man to work
with across one thousand game threshold. Earlier this season, he
had a hand in the defense and the power play
with Jess Campbell as well, and there's going to be
a drastically different look on the bench this next year.
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First reaction is when you get past the human element
of this, which always hurts to see, is that you
can't be surprised because this is like any other job
in this league. I mean, Kyle Dubis did this too
recently in Pittsburgh. Management has a right to retain those
who they think have a longer fit, and the head
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coach then can fill in the blank with his own
personnel if he wants to. And when you get past
track record, it's a relationshape based business and really it
always will be.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Ian.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Oh yeah, Mike, And and it's a good point. Listen, Bob.
First of all, really, next guy, you know, I didn't
know Dave lowermy or or sleep for very much. But
you know, while accounts, good guys get professional. You know,
coaches had success, track records, et cetera. But I think
it's hard to expect a head coach to come in
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and not be able to take his own staff. Now,
people will say, what about Jessica Camp And that's the
elemant in the room. We all know that, we understand
that it's a couple of things can play. Let's let's
take the one element out, the fact that she was
someone who you know, knocked down some doors and barriers,
groundbreaking in a lot of ways. She didn't get the
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job last year because wow, we can hire a woman
and make her the first full time pet Mills can
coach behind the bench and all of that. That's not
why she got the job. She heared that job in
Coachella Valley, and there is, uh, there are traits and
skills that she has and and so forth, especially in
terms of player development with young players that are very
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much part of what they wanted to do down the road.
What her role will be and you know they've said this,
you know, I mean, they've all said this. What her
role will be is yet to be determined, you know,
So we'll see. So that's why she's there because I
want to get that out. So I know, everyone, every
time you bring us up, well, what about why she's
saying you know, well, it's not because necessarily she is.
She she's staying because you know what she had done
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in Coachella, developing the young player's skill sets and that
type of thing. But what her role is we don't know.
So she's there. But the rest of the staff, yeah,
I think, you know, Lynn Lambert needs to be able
to bring his own people in and he's going to
do that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Several names jump out to me as far as who
could be coming in here for the assistant code, which
is part of this. I mean, I first go to
connections with Lane Lambert from earlier stops in his career.
There's Todd Reardon in Washington where they want a cup together.
He had a hand of their defenseman, a hand of
their power play, all the reports that he might be
up for a job in the KHL. There's John Gruden
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who worked the defence with the Islanders. Barry Trotz head
coach out there, Lane Lambert on his staff as well.
I look at also maybe what Brent Thompson's doing. He
was let go from Anaheim staff, but he's got a
Lambert connection. When Thompson was the head coach in ahl Bridgeport,
he ran the d in the penalty killed Anaheim didn't
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work out though last two years, but he's free. And
then I floated this around with another source of mine
in the league here and names to watch out for
in the American Hockey League who need their first kick
at the can on an NHL bench. There's Nick Bootland
in AHL, Hershey. There's Jason Smith, the longtime rugged defenseman
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ahl Lee High Valley. There's Neil Graham in AHL, Texas.
Though I wouldn't be shocked if he gets that Dallas
job out there. The question here is, if you're Lane Lambert,
do you go with youth in an up and comer
or more experience here for your staff in this case, well, I.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Don't know what he's thinking, but I think for him,
I mean the good thing. If it was Mitch Love
that got the job, I think he'd want more experience.
But Lane Lambert's been around the league forever, so you know,
I think I think that the door would be more
wide open. And you know he can he can take
a pick from a lot of different people along the way.
Also another name at you and I don't know if
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there's a connection at all, but Rocky Thompson let go
by Philadelphia. Yeah, who win?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Who's who?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It's funny with with Rock, He's a guy that you know,
we played the game he was. He was just he
was up down period in the story right like by
the top of guys was in league. But Jarry very new,
uh in terms of how he operates, like and like
he's a he's an analytics guy, the power play and
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so the things when Towards was let go and he
was able to have free reign got better in Philadelphia. Uh,
And a guy that I think also just because of
how he I think, whether it be him or Jason Smith,
I'd like to see somebody come in here that it's
gonna instill a little bit of you know, we talked that,
you know, Landon Numberson all the right things about team tough.
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So that's going from the net. When the battles one
on one all that you still have to change a mindset.
You've got to have a team that's willing to respond,
uh and push and pushback. You know. It doesn't mean
dropping the mits all the time, but sometimes it does,
or just sticking up for teammates. If I had a
dollar for every time Edge last year lost my mind
on a TV broadcast because you know, because somebody was
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and rightfully so somebody. You know, there was somebody taking
liberties with Maddie or a guy like that, and there
was no response like you can't just be Tay Kars
doing it right, you know, or John Hayden if he's
dressed that night. You've got to have teams uff or
been done lasting unless he's been done throwing, you know,
throwing hands with guys all the time and breaking a hand.
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He's too important to that team. I mean, he's willing
and he's top. You don't need that. So I'd like
to see something. I'd like to see somebody like that.
As far as the other stuff, I'm not sure. I mean,
I but there's guys out there, and I think it's
good to have a fresh start all the way through.
I really do. I think it's good to have a
fresh start all the way through.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Let's get to our mailbag segment here, and I got
a few questions to lobb at you that we can
discuss back and forth. First off, from Twitter and next
Mark Wrights, the situation appears that the UFA market will
be top heavy and shallow, and the entry draft next
year might be stacked with talent. The Kraken leadership signaled
the season ticket holders a month ago that it would
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make strides this offseason in signings and trades with a
goal to make the postseason. Any rumors the Kracking might
reconsider this and instead show one more year of patience
and give the new head coach more runway, let prospects
develop and get a high pick next year. Maybe going
for broke this year is a bad idea. Ean. Before
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I get to you, I think folks have to remember
the Krakens said back before the trade deadline, and you
touched on this, they won't rebuild. They like the roster.
I'm almost convinced that tearing it down is harder work
than filling it in. Then we get here to the
optics of this. You just committed yourself here to a
winning blueprint by using that word win. And I counted
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this six times in Lane Lambert's press conference. And then
we get to the NBA thing, and that could be
a few years down the road. You have to make
your move now to set yourself up more and really
establish a long term footprint. I see the benefit of
a rebuild. I don't mind it. I like where it
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can take you, but right now it just sends extremely
mixed messages.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
They're not rebuilding. Anytime that's brought up, I just have
to look at people and say, what are you What
are you looking at? Like, give your head of shape.
They're not rebuilding. They committed long term, big contracts to
Brandon Mon's tour and Chandler Stevens and Matty Beniers for example,
Adam Lars and Joey to coord like, like, you know,
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they're not rebuilding like that. Just first of all, rebuilding
is one of the dumbest terms in sports. It really is.
It's just a dumb term in sports. Very very very
few organizations quote unquote rebuilt. There's teams that tear it down.
Major League Baseball has a ton of teams that don't
care about winning and they just tear it down. Pittsburgh, Colorado,
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Chicago White thide.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You had a long talk on Colorado a couple of
days ago.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
I remember, yeah, but that's but that's and even then,
Colorado has a decent pay roll. The Rockies do. So
like when do you rebuild, Well, you rebuild if you're
in the NBA and you're trying to get a high
draft pick and there's a great draft coming up, and
maybe you can get a couple of guys. You rebuild,
maybe in the NFL if your roster's depleted at aging
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and you don't have a quarterback, and then when you
rebuild that like the Seahawks rebuilt in twenty ten, eleven,
and twelve. They had three hundred and fifty roster moves
over two years. That's a rebuild. The crack and I
just went through, and that's because they didn't have guys
in our contract. Matt Hausbeck's contract was coming up, Sean
was done, all and me go through the list again.
Let's go through it. Chandler, Stevenson, Random on tour, Vince Done,
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Adam Larson, Joey to Cord, Matty Beniers and I'm sure
I'm missing somebody along the way. Help me out there.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Cops to get paid too, you know.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
The second you see Coppo Coco's contract announced, understand they're
not going to They're not rebuilding. They're going to add
to what they already have. Berkeley Catton will have a
chance to make the roster. Know that about that. You're
also gonna see Yanny Newman Pabably on the roster, to
start the next season as well, and they're going to
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add how are they do it? Bea trade? What have you?
This is this is not anything other than they SID
would have put it this way, like you know, this
is better than anybody. Yeah, they did not fire Dan
Bilesma because they were going to rebuild and thought the
roster wasn't very good. They fired Dan Bilesma because they
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underachieved last season. With the roster they have and the
commitments financially, it made the people. That's the easiest and
most concise way I can put it.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
This also ties into the cop OCNCO thing. A question
from stell and any updates on that, Uh, nothing yet
And I floated an email by Crank and GM Jason
Botterral No response yet as far as how maneuvers are going,
and hey listen, gms don't negotiate the media, but we
got to do our job anyway and ask this kind
of question. But nonetheless, high priority signing and I would
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expect I would expect something very very soon because he
turned into a new man when he got year. He's
got to get paid and they got a factor in
that contract before they figure out what else they're going
to do with twenty million in caps based depending upon
the trade market or free agency. Question from Keith Miller,
do you see them going more trade path with all
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the draft resources or free agency to add this offseason?
And what names would be some good fits for what
is needed trade?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
For me?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The free agency class, ian you know, is shallow. It's
a buyer's market. Mitch Marter pipe dreaming best And you
want Sam Bennett, there's already half the league lining up
at his agent's doorstep once the Cup final is over
and the crack and don't need any more centers.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
That's the thing if you look at it. If you
look at the free agency list, the top free agents,
they're all centers and defenseman. Well, you don't need either
one of those you unless you plan on moving Madden
or Shane to the wall. Yeah, that's not going to happen.
So uh, they're going to add via trade. This goes
back again to say, like, listen to what Ron Francis
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at the trade deadline. Listen to what Ron Francis Is said.
Now I know the spot's job now and Francis is
the president kind of is more of a bigger picture guy.
But when they made all those moves. What was it
for so they could make moves? Whether now RFAs could
come into play because they have the capital to do that,
like you could talk RFA. But as far as the
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unstricted free agents of Matt class as mostly centers and defenseman,
no trade I think is I think. I think June
twenty seventh and twenty eight are going to be far
more entertaining and far more lucrative for the Seattle cracking
than July first.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Jason Botterol already dropped hints about this. NA mean, of course,
the trade is likely. The trade scenario is likely here.
So it leads me to thinking, we'll see if Jason robertsenter,
JJ Pitturk a couple names out there who can maybe
shake loose from say Dallas or Buffalo, respectively. Reports are
growing that they could move. But I'll tell you, I
put the roberts sing out there are the Robertson thing
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out there on Twitter for just discussion and a majority
of the opinion, Nothing and I mean nothing is off
the table. If you can get a guy like him
who can pop between thirty to forty goals a.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Year, nothing off the table, really.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I should say majority of it I didn't say it unanimous.
I said majority. There there are a few responses where
don't touch Maddie, don't touch Shane Wright. I don't see
Joey Decord moving, but if you want a guy like that,
A lot of the opinion is that anything's on the table.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
I'll give you a couple of things. One just from
our panel the other day with the steven ticket holders,
or formal ones. I can tell you that I think
Grubauer's on the roster to start the season, so I
know there's a lot to talk about about just reading
the tea leaves there. I think they can with a
new goalie, coach and something guy that he's familiar with
the Lambert. I think they're going to go with Grubauer
into court again. Joey's number one guy, has no doubt
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about that. As far as Jason robertson Bert, mccatton's off
the table, there's no doubt they're gonna be what this
guy is or they're not moving to him. I think
Newman's I don't think Newman's a guy they move Maddie, Shane.
You know, no one's going to take the contract of
you know, Mon Tour Stevens not that you want to
do that anyway, go through the list on, et cetera.
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As far as the prospects are concerned, I would think
Berkeley is the only guy off the table. Yeah, yeah,
I you know. Draft picks are important too for some teams,
especially aging teams like Dallas and Seale's got plenty of those. Yeah,
Dallas has a lot of salary cap issues coming up,
I think so. Yeah. Like I said, I I would
just say, get the popcorn out on June twenty seven
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to twenty eight day, the tew days of the draft.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I can't wait. By the way, two day draft show
coming up. Ban for Ness also going to be a
part of that before we jump into this thing on
Friday ninth, then Saturday morning as well. Can't wait for
that before we go. Panthers Oilers. As of this recording,
it's Florida up to games to one. We're either encountering
one to two scenarios. The end, Florida gets in the
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Oilers' heads, like in Game three, they win, they go
up three games to one. I'm calling series, or Edmonton
finds a way to stop playing into Florida's hands. They
tie this thing up at two. They go back to
Edmonton and it's game on. Neither scenario shocks me. But man,
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I thought we learned a lot of just how Florida
knows how to pull all the right levers at this
time of year.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Well, you know, you they bully you, and they do
stuff after the whistle, And I would characterize it, you know,
as a team that knows who and what they're all about,
and they play they play right on the edge. They
know how to play on the edge. Not every team
knows how to play.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
On the edge.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Bob's been better than Bob's been better than Skinner in net.
That's huge. And but Edmonton. You know, the thing that
I think the key with Edmonton is, and you know,
as the Kate and this are about ready to drop
the fuck in game four, is Ryan NuGen Hopkins. How
hurt is he only played? He played like nine and
a half minutes of five on five, yeah the other night,
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you know, And so I think that's key. Take da
comment out of the lineup. They're not as deep you
got to be. You've got to have some other guys
step up along the way. You know, Nick Gavid's got
to be better ins or more effective at least. But
I don't think this thing. I still think it's good.
I'd be stunned if it doesn't go well. I mean
it's two to one right now, it's gonna go six
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or seven. It just is.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I still think it's going seven, you know.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, yeah, I do too. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Did you see what the Oilers did before Game four yesterday?
The media claiming Edmonton said a scratch only practice was coming,
and then they had like sixteen guys show up on
the ice after.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah, and I know the meetias all sideways about that.
I think it's funny. But you know, I think it's
funny because I'm not the one that's casked with having
to cover them, So I wouldn't think it's funny if
I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But or they got I've heard stories before where you know,
you get this deep into the postseason and all of
a sudden you walk into the building and hey, why
why is the entire glass end to end all fogged up?
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, they don't want us to see what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Exactly exactly. Yeah, No, I got you. Like I said,
if I had to cover them about my job was, Yeah,
I was working for TSN or Sports or someplace and
my job was covering them on a beat, I'd be
pissed off. But yeah, since I'm not, I think it's teroal.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
We get to throw the popcorn right back right now.
But here's to working a little bit deeper on serious
matters about twelve to twenty four months away or who
knows when. But I appreciate this, my man. Thank you
much appreciated, mayor thank you very much. That's the infness
joining us again one to three week days ninety three
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great job in this market year after years serving you,
helping me as well with my job and making me
better and making so many others better as well. Big
thanks your tip Ian Finez for joining us. I also
want to thank Lane Lambert for joining us. Will find
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