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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is a paid commercial by Black Girls Sunscreen.
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iHeartMedia or this station. Welcome to Shamelessly Chantey with your
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Good morning.
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You're listening to Shamelessly Chante and I'm your host, Chante Lundy.
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Who we Got?
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Who we Got?
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Kimberlee Iki, Good morning, everybody, Morning Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Francis Hi, So y'all.
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Black Girl's Sunscreen has developed so many relationships over the years.
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And Kimberly, we have somebody.
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Special sitting next to us right now, special looking so beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yes, who is she? Let me tell everybody? Okay. Known
globally as a thought leader on mental health disparities and
equity for intersectional youth of color, their families, and community,
Today's guest is a psychologist, scientist, author, and mental health correspondent.
Her passion lies within helping social media users prevent burnout
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and practice gratitude and mindfulness. With an extensive background in
research and clinical care for marginalized communities, she's highly regarded
and praised as a trailblazer in science and academic medicine,
giving a voice to the voiceless and translating the complexities
and needs of diverse demographics. She is fearlessly turning science
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into self care. We are so happy to welcome to
the show, doctor Alfie Breeland Nobley.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We need applause for that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That is beautiful. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We have someone brilliant today next to us.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thank you. I'm in brilliant company, so is way.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I reflect what's in front of me. That's all I'm doing.
I'm just reflecting in bed. Very nice.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What needed that today?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
She is beautiful? Yeah, thank you, You're cool.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The same thing that often brings me out here is
the opportunity to be able to amplify and uplift and
center black folks, people of color, and our mental health,
because too often I feel like we're left out of
these conversations. Conversations are very generic, and I feel like
there's so much to be gained from learning from the
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wisdom the resilience of our communities and being able to
take that knowledge and share with other people because other
people could benefit from that too.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is that what you spoke about at Ushelle?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I did. It was interesting because one of my mentors
way back when I was a post doc a million
years ago. Doctor Gail Wyatt was the person who interviewed me,
and she was just very honest and raw about how
the field of mentoral. She's actually she's the first black
woman to ever be licensed as a clinical psychologist in
the state of California, which is why azy.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's wild and amazing, but it's a representation. Oh my goodness, yeah,
it there's so many things. Yes, So she was a
person who interviewed me, which was really wonderful, and we
just had the opportunity to say to a multiracial audience,
if you're not uplifting and centering in your work the
needs of all different kinds of people, you're doing people
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a disservice. Everybody deserves what we talk about at my
nonprofit and what I talk about as a person. Everybody
deserves the opportunity to achieve optimal mental health, and that's
what we try to do. We have somebody very special
in the building today, Kimberly.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Who is she?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes, Miss Mabel, Mabel Mabel. She is a trailblazer from beginning,
the creative genius behind merchandising strategies for Savage, fenty Norstrom
and mess to co founding a vibrant beauty brand infused
with the flavor of her Afro Latina culture, Luna magic
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and being a proud mother. Mabel is here to talk
to us about breaking into beauty as an Afro Latina,
her experience being on Shark Tank, and we'll dip into
her life experience with love on the East Coast versus
the West Coast. Let's give some love and warm Welcome
to the show, Hey, miss Niebell.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
So grateful to be here today, and a wonderful introduction,
so thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yes, okay, so I'm a Bell. I heard a little
bit about your background.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You know, it begins in the home. You know, I
grew up with two dynamic women and my mother and
my grandmother who like who ran a healing store in
the Virgin Islands. A lot of people don't realize that
culturally Dominican, which means you know, flavor Latin music. That
plus you know the Afro diaspora piece. You know, genetically
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and racially we accept our blackness and that's where the
Afro Latina comes in, vibrancy colors, vibes. We are very
proud to know that we have African descent, and that's
kind of like there's been the inspiration behind everything that
I have that we have done, especially for the brand.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I what clicked in my head to make me take
the leap into beauty? Okay, I'm curious to know what
was your nuds to lead you to co found the
vibrant brand that you have with your sister.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So when I think about how Luna Magic started, the
earliest inspiration is seeing my mother and my grandmother take
charge of their lives right by having the store. I
saw my grandmother negotiating client telling like they were working
in a team. But what made me realize it was
possible was I feel very lucky to have worked in
corporate America and startup jobs because I worked really closely
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with founders. Why Luna We believe in Mother Moon energy
and why magic because I think that the most you
have to have a little bit of magic and the
most inspirational people in the world that I that I
look up to, you have to believe in something supernatural
spiritual to bring an idea from your brain into the
world for it to exist. And I think that's what
makes founders like us so special. Rights it's it's like
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a it's a calling.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think to be a founder of Prentiss.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So who do we have sitting next to us Oho?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Today's guest? On Sullivan Today's Guest is a sexologist and
founder of Bloomy, an intimacy company that creates inclusive sex
education and clean intimacy products for all bodies that help
you get in the mood. She has breaking barriers for
herself and her community, as she is one of the
few Latina entrepreneurs in the country to secure more than
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three million dollars in funding for her company, the first
Latina to launch an intimacy brand and target nationwide, and
created the first sexual wellness major at the University of California, Berkeley.
She has also a recognized national sexual wellness and intimacy
expert and frequently contributes to the country's largest media outlets.
She has a proud mother, wife, and Latina of Mexican descent.
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She currently resides in Oakland, California, and when she's not
leading her company, you can find her in nature, spending
time with her family, painting and salsa dancing. Please welcome,
Rebecca Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
We're really excited to have you where are you originally from.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
I'm from the Bay Area. My parents are from Mexico.
My dad's from the capital, my mom's from Grango, if
you guys know Mexico. But it's been so nice being
in the Bay because it's diverse and earthy and all
the things that I love. I tried leaving, and I
always go back.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Now let's talk about college. Is it Is it true
that you created your own major?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I did.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
So what happened is I actually went to UC San
Diego for my first year. It's non traditional. I ended
up transferring to CAL as a second year. And when
I did that, I noticed this pattern where I kept
taking all the sexual wellness courses. There were so many.
They were so good. They were about like anything you
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can think of, the biology of it, the history of it,
the science of arousal. Like, there were so many fun classes.
But I was like, what am I going to do
with this because it doesn't all qualify for biology or psychology.
So I ended up working with the special department where
you can make a major, and I ended up creating
one that way.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Okay, so kudos to you. Congratulations to you for having
a passion and then literally implementing it and seeing it through,
because I don't know anyone that has created their own major.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I didn't either.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
It's like junior year and I was like, dang, I
need to declare and I keep taking these classes. I
felt like part of me was getting sidetracked, but it
didn't feel like I was getting sidetracked. I'm like, this
is important. That was so good, I want to take
another class.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
So yeah, there's some schools. Actually you can do it,
usually through interdisciplinary studies where you can create if you
can get approval from departments.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So were you and interested?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Are we?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We're allowed to say sex?
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Were you interested in this topic pre college?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So my experience with sex education has always made me
very interested in why people were not talking about it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So we just I mean, you saw it was hard
for me to say right just now.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
And you can say intimacy. You know it's fair.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love intimacy.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
You think like if we stopped calling it sex education
and called it intimacy education, I think we would make.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
More progress, more receptive.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yes, and then then people wouldn't freak out when we
say we're going to do sex ed with middle school.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
They would.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
You know, there's this assumption that you're going to talk
about all things sex, which is not accurate. You're going
to talk about age appropriate education, and you're going to
talk about intimacy and body safety, and there's so many
topics that you just expand as you get older.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
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Speaker 3 (10:46):
We have somebody in the house today.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Who do we have, Yes, we do. I'm gonna talking.
I'm gonna introduce her. This woman's amazing. Okay, so you
might have first been introduced to our next guest in
twenty fifteen on Black in Chicago, but she is now
the star of her very own podcast, Marriage or Mirage.
She's a mother to two beautiful daughters, an author of
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the children's book Nubians Come in All Shades, and the
owner of a haircare line that caters to locks. Whether
she's creating health conscious seamoss products which I love, or
sharing her fun family life on social media, this guest
is nothing short of driven, charismatic, and entertaining. Please welcome
to the show, Charmaine Walker bay Hey, thanks for the intro.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
That was nice.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Yeah, beautiful borrowed at somebody would send it to going
to work at groupon you could wear whatever you wanted.
There was no dress code and also most likely if
you were coming in kind of hungover, so was your
manager right, And we were like partying together like you
would be partying with your coworkers. So it was very
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different and that allowed me to like party after where
it wasn't like the corporate radio selling life.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
This was groupon a startup in an office where you
know you can get away with murder almost so.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I was definitely getting away with murder.
Speaker 10 (12:14):
I was partying every night until like two three in
the morning at nine mag the tattoo shop in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And we did that for like two years, y'all.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
And it must have been legendary because next thing I know,
VH one was calling saying that they wanted to film
us for a pilot for a reality show. And I
just was like, this sounds really crazy, but like sure,
you know, so I put on my best Meani Leaks,
my best Jassling Hernandez at the time, and I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna go all in and we're gonna get this show.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Because it wasn't just us.
Speaker 10 (12:44):
It was another tattoo shop in Baltimore that they were
filming after us for a pilot. So it was yes,
it was between us and this show, this tattoo shop
in Baltimore, and we were like, we have to lock
this down.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So we did.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
We had seven successful seasons, over one hundred episodes around
you know, in the middle of season seven, I was
totally not feeling it anymore and decided to quit the show.
And I also, I don't know if y'all know this,
but iHeartRadio was one of my bosses as well WGCI
in Chicago. I missed GCI so much because I was
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doing well in Chicago and I was kind of like
up next. I had my own midday show, so every
day it's in it too. You were tuning into me,
and I was like up next for like morning show
things like that. But what really resonated with me now
what I was going through then, which I didn't understand,
is I had like a serious burnout. Not only did
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my parents die while in like a two year span,
but I was pregnant both times. After once, it just
hit me, I just needed a whole change of scenery. Okay,
I did not want to be in Chicago anymore. My
husband had dreams and aspirations of us creating reality TV shows.
We were getting a lot of great feedback here in La,
(14:06):
so we decided to move to LA And that's why
I'm here. So, yes, I'm an entrepreneur. I have lots
of businesses, and yeah, we're here.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
As the vice president of social for who what where
and with ten plus years in social media, this business
tycoon has forced your own path in the world of beauty,
fashion and media. She's a brilliant journalist who has made
her name in the space of retail and writing. As
a daughter of a revered civil rights activist and a
world renowned model, she knows how to be a powerhouse
in her own lane. We're so happy to welcome to
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the show. Mackenzie Green. Oh, McKenzie, Hello McKenzie. Yes, you
are daughter of a civil rights activist. Yeah, I am
sure you witnessed hero, wisdom, bravery within your dad. You've
probably received wisdom and advice from him over the years.
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What nugget of wisdom is he imparted that you've carried
with you into your career.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, he is still my dad.
Speaker 11 (15:06):
So I think what's always funny is people people think
that Ernest Green with the capital letters is the same
as Dad, all lowercase. And so I didn't know him
as this civil rights pioneer. I really didn't for much
of my life. And because the people around me were
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also in that world of the Andy Jung's, Jesse Jackson's,
you know these folks, I thought that was a very
normal thing. It never occurred to me that what any
of them did were continue to be was anything special.
So in terms of the wisdom, none of it came
from that realm right. What it came from was the
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way he showed up. So I the thing I learned
through his actions is you know you, what you put
your time into is what matters. So this may would
be off as the president of the African Development Foundation,
or at Nelson Mandel's inauguration with copies of all of
my bedtime stories, reading me the stories over the phone.
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So through that action, I saw that I must matter
and be important to my father. You know, he defers
to my mom still I don't even say deferred, but
defers to her about what do we want to instill
in a black woman to be what we hope she
can be and continue this family. So I say all
of that to say the words of wisdom from that
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wonderful man that comes with the bios and the awards
and the statues and the stumps and the movies and
the documentaries. I didn't get to know him until I
became his speechwriter. But the person he is as my
dad has taught me to be kind to others. Remember
the name of the waiter at the restaurant. Say hello
Tim when you see him on the street. Be kind
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to everybody, Speak to people at church. You're not too
good to come out of the pew during when it's
time to greet you neighbor and say hello, somebody. Show
up places the way that you are proud to put
your best effort into all that you do. Uh there,
you know, don't quit just because it's difficult. Don't be
afraid to step into rooms or the You're the only one.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So so with that, right, it feels like it's it's
it's it's a lot to move on with.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What are some.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Really good times and sometimes where you're like, oh my goodness,
like do I share this? What happens if they find out?
Or were there any biases that came along with who
your family is? Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I mean I think so.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
I am a you know, an elder millennial, a child
of the nineties. We grew up in a world that
was referred to as a post racial America. I know,
that's why we're all laughing. So I would sit in
these classrooms and this black and white photo would come
up on the screen during African American Uh, you know
History months or Black History Month or it would be
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in my textbook and people would be like, wow, that
was so long ago, and it was kind of like
do I raise my hand and kind of ruin the
fantasy for everybody in this room and condensed time real quick?
Or do I just sit here and go mm hmm. Yeah,
that was super long ago and we are so far
removed from that because it was just one bad person
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and he shot MLK and now he's gone and everything's fixed.
So it's like it's like it was those moments where
you would sit there and you would think, all right,
here we go, like you know, so I think those
moments of kind of my childhood of watching like the
shock on a teacher's face of like, oh no, I mean.
I also once had a teacher sophomore year of high
school that wanted to argue with me about the incorrect
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facts he was teaching during Black History Month, And midway
through our argument, I just said, if you don't believe me,
I can just call John Lewis and have him tell
you that you're wrong. And he was like huh, and
I go, I just can you just hand me my
T mobile sidekick, like, can you just.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Give it back?
Speaker 11 (19:01):
And I'll call him and I'll just get them all
on the phone and they can just tell you that
like you have the wrong facts. And I think the
other part of it that's funny is there is a
world I exist in professionally, personally as a brand where
people don't know.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
A black don't crack it doesn't Black people get sunburned too.
As my cousin skimming skins for women and for men
on how this summer street or not I got the
beachet and BG yes or Black Girl side screen found
at twenty sixteen. Shout out to the owner, Shante Lundy.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
She a skin queen.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
She gave me the Black Priss song. Go relax, say mortialized,
but take your skin from hyper pimentations for every occasion.
Use sps year around, bgs for every persuasion. Black d
run a bottle with join you out of sun, bake
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Speaker 3 (20:09):
Some birds too, Francisco, Who do we have sitting next
to us?
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Jackie Lacy She grew up in the Crenshaw District of
Los Angeles and a working class family. After graduating from
Dorsey High School, she obtained a bachelor's degree in psychology
from UC Irvine and a law degree from USC. In
nineteen eighty six, she started as a prosecutor in the
Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. During her tenure, she
was a prolific trial lawyer who made history in nineteen
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ninety eight when she obtained a murder conviction against white
supremacists who killed a man in Lancaster because he was black.
In November twenty twelve, she was the first woman and
the first black person to be elected District Attorney in
its one hundred sixty year history. Jackie has created some
amazing reform programs such as the Criminal Justice Mental Health
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Task Force, the first human trafficking unit, as well as
the first child abuse unit. Jackie has since retired from
practice in law. As of December twenty twenty, Jackie Lacy
is a current member of Shepherd of the Hills Church
in Porta, Ranch, California. She and her husband, David, were
married for nearly forty two amazing years until his passing
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in twenty twenty two. They have two adult children. Please
welcome Jackie Lacey.
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A Jackie is smiling. I love to see Jackie smiling.
I'm smiling, Jackie. Can you bring me back to the
nineteen seventies. I know you were born and raised in
Los Angeles. What was it like because I wasn't here
in the seventies.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Well, you know, it was different. In my neighborhood, the
Crenshaw District. It was the mostly African American neighborhood. There
were I think about twenty percent of the people there
were Asian. You know, it was a good neighborhood, good
with some issues. Remember back in the seventies was when
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the gang culture started. Well, we had the bloods and
the crips. I lived down the street from an area
used to be called the Jungle. It's a bunch of
apartments now called Baldwin Vista. And you know I walked
to school and you had to be kind of careful.
I can remember my mother being worried about us. My
mom worked, my dad worked and just being worried about us,
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and you know, just sort of warning us, Hey, don't
get involved in anything that wreck your life. We want
you to be have a better life than we had.
My parents are from the South, which explains a lot
about me. My dad's from Texas, my mom's from Georgia,
and they were strict. I didn't appreciate it at the time.
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Now I'm just grateful.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How often do you go back to your old neighborhood.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
Well, my mother still lives in the house, so there
a couple of times a week. The house that you
were born in, Well, the house I was raised and
I saw herself was born in. But she still lives
in the Crnshaw district in the home that that's amazing.
So you graduated at law school in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
This is special for me.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know why? Why that's my birth year.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
God, I'm old.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
He's on your age.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't mind it. I don't mind it at this point,
I've embraced it. So nineteen eighty two, okay, what inspired
your law career? You know, I took a roundabout path.
I thought I was going to be an elementary school teacher.
And my dad, who was very smart and really my
mentor one day when I was in college, said hey,
I'm not sure that's right for you.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Why don't you go work in a school? And I
did and realize it wasn't my calling. So I just
started taking random classes and I took a class where
I met a black woman lawyer. The first time I
met a black woman lawyer.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She lectured.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
Her name is Irma Brown. She's now a judge, but
Irma Brown came in and spoke and she doesn't realize
that she does now because I've seen her, but at
the time shege my life.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
When I saw this beautiful, intelligent.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Black woman talk about being an advocate in court for justice,
it planted as seen in me that said maybe I
could do that, which is so weird because it was
sta somewhat of a I wasn't part of the in crowd.
It was sort of shy and reserved.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
But I just was inspired by her.
Speaker 12 (24:21):
And because of that one lecture that one hour, I said,
you know what, I'm going to try to go to
law school. All I can say to anybody who's thinking
about a certain career, look what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Sometimes Wow is to hear, one person to see, one
person to be inspired.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Today's guest will be a familiar face to you all.
She's a traveler, a visionary, a cheerleader to those around her,
an innovator, an entrepreneur, and an overall amazing woman of
great influence. The woman behind Shamelessly Chante the Bag of
s us. Fresh off of her vacation in Italy and Greece,
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please welcome Miss chance Lundy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now eight now, everything that I have worked, done and
done for the last eight years has been questioned.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So how do I feel about that?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It's interesting because eight years ago Black Girls Sunscreen didn't
have the platform that we have today. We probably started
with two followers, not that little, but you understand what
I mean. We weren't in major retailers, and even then,
the name was questioned, the reason why I was doing
it was questioned, and the scalability was questioned. So everything
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that I was working on was why this know that?
Are you sure it's never going to work? For years, two,
three years, and even today there are still folks that say,
I'm confused. I don't understand why these people need your
product and why did you name the company black Girl sunscreen.
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So that didn't stop me because of who I am.
I've been stilled with confidence. Now the confidence comes and goes,
just to be honest, it comes and goes. But I've
always been taught to be strong in my thoughts. And
if I wasn't strong in my thoughts, then we wouldn't
be here today. And for anyone that has presented anything new,
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it could be a new hairstyle, it could be a
new outfit, it could be anything new. You want the
world to love your baby. You want the world to
think your baby is cute and even lie if it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So we launch and we.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Got mixed reviews, and that's okay. That's okay because this
is what I'm used to. This is actually nothing new.
For all of my career in beauty and being an entrepreneur,
I've always had to defend what I'm doing, what I'm saying,
and how I'm acting because it doesn't stop there. So
if you're listening, which I know you are, this is
what this has been like. Or Shantay Lundy, the creator
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and founder of Black Girl Sun's Green. So until next
time you're listening to shamelessly chantey bye
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, The proceeding was a paid
commercial by black Girl Sunscreen
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iHeartMedia or this station. Welcome to Shamelessly Chantey with your
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You're listening to Shamelessly Chante and I'm your host, Chante Lundy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Who we Got?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Who we Got?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Kimberlee Iki, Good morning, everybody, Morning Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Francis Hi, So y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Black Girl's Sunscreen has developed so many relationships over the years.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And Kimberly, we have somebody.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Special sitting next to us right now, special looking so beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yes, who is she? Let me tell everybody? Okay. Known
globally as a thought leader on mental health disparities and
equity for intersectional youth of color, their families, and community,
Today's guest is a psychologist, scientist, author, and mental health correspondent.
Her passion lies within helping social media users prevent burnout
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and practice gratitude and mindfulness. With an extensive background in
research and clinical care for marginalized communities, she's highly regarded
and praised as a trailblazer in science and academic medicine,
giving a voice to the voiceless and translating the complexities
and needs of diverse demographics. She is fearlessly turning science
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into self care. We are so happy to welcome to
the show, doctor Alfie Breeland Nobley.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We need applause for that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That is beautiful. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We have someone brilliant today next to us.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thank you. I'm in brilliant company, so is way.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I reflect what's in front of me. That's all I'm doing.
I'm just reflecting in bed. Very nice.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What needed that today?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
She is beautiful? Yeah, thank you, You're cool.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The same thing that often brings me out here is
the opportunity to be able to amplify and uplift and
center black folks, people of color, and our mental health,
because too often I feel like we're left out of
these conversations. Conversations are very generic, and I feel like
there's so much to be gained from learning from the
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wisdom the resilience of our communities and being able to
take that knowledge and share with other people because other
people could benefit from that too.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is that what you spoke about at Ushelle?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I did. It was interesting because one of my mentors
way back when I was a post doc a million
years ago. Doctor Gail Wyatt was the person who interviewed me,
and she was just very honest and raw about how
the field of mentoral. She's actually she's the first black
woman to ever be licensed as a clinical psychologist in
the state of California, which is why azy.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's wild and amazing, but it's a representation. Oh my goodness, yeah,
it there's so many things. Yes, So she was a
person who interviewed me, which was really wonderful, and we
just had the opportunity to say to a multiracial audience,
if you're not uplifting and centering in your work the
needs of all different kinds of people, you're doing people
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a disservice. Everybody deserves what we talk about at my
nonprofit and what I talk about as a person. Everybody
deserves the opportunity to achieve optimal mental health, and that's
what we try to do. We have somebody very special
in the building today, Kimberly.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Who is she?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes, Miss Mabel, Mabel Mabel. She is a trailblazer from beginning,
the creative genius behind merchandising strategies for Savage, fenty Norstrom
and mess to co founding a vibrant beauty brand infused
with the flavor of her Afro Latina culture, Luna magic
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and being a proud mother. Mabel is here to talk
to us about breaking into beauty as an Afro Latina,
her experience being on Shark Tank, and we'll dip into
her life experience with love on the East Coast versus
the West Coast. Let's give some love and warm Welcome
to the show, Hey, miss Niebell.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
So grateful to be here today, and a wonderful introduction,
so thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yes, okay, so I'm a Bell. I heard a little
bit about your background.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You know, it begins in the home. You know, I
grew up with two dynamic women and my mother and
my grandmother who like who ran a healing store in
the Virgin Islands. A lot of people don't realize that
culturally Dominican, which means you know, flavor Latin music. That
plus you know the Afro diaspora piece. You know, genetically
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and racially we accept our blackness and that's where the
Afro Latina comes in, vibrancy colors, vibes. We are very
proud to know that we have African descent, and that's
kind of like there's been the inspiration behind everything that
I have that we have done, especially for the brand.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I what clicked in my head to make me take
the leap into beauty? Okay, I'm curious to know what
was your nuds to lead you to co found the
vibrant brand that you have with your sister.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So when I think about how Luna Magic started, the
earliest inspiration is seeing my mother and my grandmother take
charge of their lives right by having the store. I
saw my grandmother negotiating client telling like they were working
in a team. But what made me realize it was
possible was I feel very lucky to have worked in
corporate America and startup jobs because I worked really closely
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with founders. Why Luna We believe in Mother Moon energy
and why magic because I think that the most you
have to have a little bit of magic and the
most inspirational people in the world that I that I
look up to, you have to believe in something supernatural
spiritual to bring an idea from your brain into the
world for it to exist. And I think that's what
makes founders like us so special. Rights it's it's like
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a it's a calling.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think to be a founder of Prentiss.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So who do we have sitting next to us Oho?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Today's guest? On Sullivan Today's Guest is a sexologist and
founder of Bloomy, an intimacy company that creates inclusive sex
education and clean intimacy products for all bodies that help
you get in the mood. She has breaking barriers for
herself and her community, as she is one of the
few Latina entrepreneurs in the country to secure more than
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three million dollars in funding for her company, the first
Latina to launch an intimacy brand and target nationwide, and
created the first sexual wellness major at the University of California, Berkeley.
She has also a recognized national sexual wellness and intimacy
expert and frequently contributes to the country's largest media outlets.
She has a proud mother, wife, and Latina of Mexican descent.
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She currently resides in Oakland, California, and when she's not
leading her company, you can find her in nature, spending
time with her family, painting and salsa dancing. Please welcome,
Rebecca Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
We're really excited to have you where are you originally from.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
I'm from the Bay Area. My parents are from Mexico.
My dad's from the capital, my mom's from Grango, if
you guys know Mexico. But it's been so nice being
in the Bay because it's diverse and earthy and all
the things that I love. I tried leaving, and I
always go back.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Now let's talk about college. Is it Is it true
that you created your own major?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I did.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
So what happened is I actually went to UC San
Diego for my first year. It's non traditional. I ended
up transferring to CAL as a second year. And when
I did that, I noticed this pattern where I kept
taking all the sexual wellness courses. There were so many.
They were so good. They were about like anything you
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can think of, the biology of it, the history of it,
the science of arousal. Like, there were so many fun classes.
But I was like, what am I going to do
with this because it doesn't all qualify for biology or psychology.
So I ended up working with the special department where
you can make a major, and I ended up creating
one that way.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Okay, so kudos to you. Congratulations to you for having
a passion and then literally implementing it and seeing it through,
because I don't know anyone that has created their own major.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I didn't either.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
It's like junior year and I was like, dang, I
need to declare and I keep taking these classes. I
felt like part of me was getting sidetracked, but it
didn't feel like I was getting sidetracked. I'm like, this
is important. That was so good, I want to take
another class.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
So yeah, there's some schools. Actually you can do it,
usually through interdisciplinary studies where you can create if you
can get approval from departments.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So were you and interested?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Are we?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We're allowed to say sex?
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Were you interested in this topic pre college?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So my experience with sex education has always made me
very interested in why people were not talking about it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So we just I mean, you saw it was hard
for me to say right just now.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
And you can say intimacy. You know it's fair.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love intimacy.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
You think like if we stopped calling it sex education
and called it intimacy education, I think we would make.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
More progress, more receptive.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yes, and then then people wouldn't freak out when we
say we're going to do sex ed with middle school.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
They would.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
You know, there's this assumption that you're going to talk
about all things sex, which is not accurate. You're going
to talk about age appropriate education, and you're going to
talk about intimacy and body safety, and there's so many
topics that you just expand as you get older.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
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as my cousin skins for women and for men on
how this summer streets Oh no, I got the beach
streets and BG yes or black girl sign screen found
in twenty sixteen. Shout out to the owner, Shanty Lundy.
She the skinned queen. She gave me the Black prest song.
Gonna relax, stay mortialized, but take your skin from hyperpimentations
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for every occasion. Use s PS year around, BGS for
every persuasion. Black bringing a bottle with you and you
on that sun bay a sign screen. Safety on you girl,
You look amazed. If you want up and take your skin, queen,
make sure you get some black girl sign screen like
you're gunna dodge them. So dang, just leut on your
(10:39):
black girl sunscreen, right, Black don't crack it doesn't. Black
people get sunburns.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We have somebody in the house today.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Who do we have, Yes, we do. I'm gonna talking.
I'm gonna introduce her. This woman's amazing. Okay, so you
might have first been introduced to our next guest in
twenty fifteen on Black in Chicago, but she is now
the star of her very own podcast, Marriage or Mirage.
She's a mother to two beautiful daughters, an author of
(11:09):
the children's book Nubians Come in All Shades, and the
owner of a haircare line that caters to locks. Whether
she's creating health conscious seamoss products which I love, or
sharing her fun family life on social media, this guest
is nothing short of driven, charismatic, and entertaining. Please welcome
to the show, Charmaine Walker bay Hey, thanks for the intro.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
That was nice.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Yeah, beautiful borrowed at somebody would send it to going
to work at groupon you could wear whatever you wanted.
There was no dress code and also most likely if
you were coming in kind of hungover, so was your
manager right, And we were like partying together like you
would be partying with your coworkers. So it was very
(11:57):
different and that allowed me to like party after where
it wasn't like the corporate radio selling life.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
This was groupon a startup in an office where you
know you can get away with murder almost so.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I was definitely getting away with murder.
Speaker 10 (12:14):
I was partying every night until like two three in
the morning at nine mag the tattoo shop in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And we did that for like two years, y'all.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
And it must have been legendary because next thing I know,
VH one was calling saying that they wanted to film
us for a pilot for a reality show. And I
just was like, this sounds really crazy, but like sure,
you know, so I put on my best Meani Leaks,
my best Jassling Hernandez at the time, and I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna go all in and we're gonna get this show.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Because it wasn't just us.
Speaker 10 (12:44):
It was another tattoo shop in Baltimore that they were
filming after us for a pilot. So it was yes,
it was between us and this show, this tattoo shop
in Baltimore, and we were like, we have to lock
this down.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So we did.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
We had seven successful seasons, over one hundred episodes around
you know, in the middle of season seven, I was
totally not feeling it anymore and decided to quit the show.
And I also, I don't know if y'all know this,
but iHeartRadio was one of my bosses as well WGCI
in Chicago. I missed GCI so much because I was
(13:24):
doing well in Chicago and I was kind of like
up next. I had my own midday show, so every
day it's in it too. You were tuning into me,
and I was like up next for like morning show
things like that. But what really resonated with me now
what I was going through then, which I didn't understand,
is I had like a serious burnout. Not only did
(13:45):
my parents die while in like a two year span,
but I was pregnant both times. After once, it just
hit me, I just needed a whole change of scenery. Okay,
I did not want to be in Chicago anymore. My
husband had dreams and aspirations of us creating reality TV shows.
We were getting a lot of great feedback here in La,
(14:06):
so we decided to move to LA And that's why
I'm here. So, yes, I'm an entrepreneur. I have lots
of businesses, and yeah, we're here.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
As the vice president of social for who what where
and with ten plus years in social media, this business
tycoon has forced your own path in the world of beauty,
fashion and media. She's a brilliant journalist who has made
her name in the space of retail and writing. As
a daughter of a revered civil rights activist and a
world renowned model, she knows how to be a powerhouse
in her own lane. We're so happy to welcome to
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the show. Mackenzie Green. Oh, McKenzie, Hello McKenzie. Yes, you
are daughter of a civil rights activist. Yeah, I am
sure you witnessed hero, wisdom, bravery within your dad. You've
probably received wisdom and advice from him over the years.
(14:58):
What nugget of wisdom is he imparted that you've carried
with you into your career.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, he is still my dad.
Speaker 11 (15:06):
So I think what's always funny is people people think
that Ernest Green with the capital letters is the same
as Dad, all lowercase. And so I didn't know him
as this civil rights pioneer. I really didn't for much
of my life. And because the people around me were
(15:27):
also in that world of the Andy Jung's, Jesse Jackson's,
you know these folks, I thought that was a very
normal thing. It never occurred to me that what any
of them did were continue to be was anything special.
So in terms of the wisdom, none of it came
from that realm right. What it came from was the
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way he showed up. So I the thing I learned
through his actions is you know you, what you put
your time into is what matters. So this may would
be off as the president of the African Development Foundation,
or at Nelson Mandel's inauguration with copies of all of
my bedtime stories, reading me the stories over the phone.
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So through that action, I saw that I must matter
and be important to my father. You know, he defers
to my mom still I don't even say deferred, but
defers to her about what do we want to instill
in a black woman to be what we hope she
can be and continue this family. So I say all
of that to say the words of wisdom from that
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wonderful man that comes with the bios and the awards
and the statues and the stumps and the movies and
the documentaries. I didn't get to know him until I
became his speechwriter. But the person he is as my
dad has taught me to be kind to others. Remember
the name of the waiter at the restaurant. Say hello
Tim when you see him on the street. Be kind
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to everybody, Speak to people at church. You're not too
good to come out of the pew during when it's
time to greet you neighbor and say hello, somebody. Show
up places the way that you are proud to put
your best effort into all that you do. Uh there,
you know, don't quit just because it's difficult. Don't be
afraid to step into rooms or the You're the only one.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So so with that, right, it feels like it's it's
it's it's a lot to move on with.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What are some.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Really good times and sometimes where you're like, oh my goodness,
like do I share this? What happens if they find out?
Or were there any biases that came along with who
your family is? Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I mean I think so.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
I am a you know, an elder millennial, a child
of the nineties. We grew up in a world that
was referred to as a post racial America. I know,
that's why we're all laughing. So I would sit in
these classrooms and this black and white photo would come
up on the screen during African American Uh, you know
History months or Black History Month or it would be
(18:01):
in my textbook and people would be like, wow, that
was so long ago, and it was kind of like
do I raise my hand and kind of ruin the
fantasy for everybody in this room and condensed time real quick?
Or do I just sit here and go mm hmm. Yeah,
that was super long ago and we are so far
removed from that because it was just one bad person
(18:23):
and he shot MLK and now he's gone and everything's fixed.
So it's like it's like it was those moments where
you would sit there and you would think, all right,
here we go, like you know, so I think those
moments of kind of my childhood of watching like the
shock on a teacher's face of like, oh no, I mean.
I also once had a teacher sophomore year of high
school that wanted to argue with me about the incorrect
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facts he was teaching during Black History Month, And midway
through our argument, I just said, if you don't believe me,
I can just call John Lewis and have him tell
you that you're wrong. And he was like huh, and
I go, I just can you just hand me my
T mobile sidekick, like, can you just.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Give it back?
Speaker 11 (19:01):
And I'll call him and I'll just get them all
on the phone and they can just tell you that
like you have the wrong facts. And I think the
other part of it that's funny is there is a
world I exist in professionally, personally as a brand where
people don't know.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
A black don't crack it doesn't Black people get sunburned too.
As my cousin skimming skins for women and for men
on how this summer street or not I got the
beachet and BG yes or Black Girl side screen found
at twenty sixteen. Shout out to the owner, Shante Lundy.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
She a skin queen.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
She gave me the Black Priss song. Go relax, say mortialized,
but take your skin from hyper pimentations for every occasion.
Use sps year around, bgs for every persuasion. Black d
run a bottle with join you out of sun, bake
signs grain safety on you or you look amazing. If
you're going to take your skin, queen, make sure you
(19:57):
get some black girl signce scram young ganadajum si dang
just plood on your Black Girls sun screen night Black
don't crack it doesn't black people get.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Some birds too, Francisco, Who do we have sitting next
to us?
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Jackie Lacy She grew up in the Crenshaw District of
Los Angeles and a working class family. After graduating from
Dorsey High School, she obtained a bachelor's degree in psychology
from UC Irvine and a law degree from USC. In
nineteen eighty six, she started as a prosecutor in the
Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. During her tenure, she
was a prolific trial lawyer who made history in nineteen
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ninety eight when she obtained a murder conviction against white
supremacists who killed a man in Lancaster because he was black.
In November twenty twelve, she was the first woman and
the first black person to be elected District Attorney in
its one hundred sixty year history. Jackie has created some
amazing reform programs such as the Criminal Justice Mental Health
(20:58):
Task Force, the first human trafficking unit, as well as
the first child abuse unit. Jackie has since retired from
practice in law. As of December twenty twenty, Jackie Lacy
is a current member of Shepherd of the Hills Church
in Porta, Ranch, California. She and her husband, David, were
married for nearly forty two amazing years until his passing
(21:20):
in twenty twenty two. They have two adult children. Please
welcome Jackie Lacey.
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A Jackie is smiling. I love to see Jackie smiling.
I'm smiling, Jackie. Can you bring me back to the
nineteen seventies. I know you were born and raised in
Los Angeles. What was it like because I wasn't here
in the seventies.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
Well, you know, it was different. In my neighborhood, the
Crenshaw District. It was the mostly African American neighborhood. There
were I think about twenty percent of the people there
were Asian. You know, it was a good neighborhood, good
with some issues. Remember back in the seventies was when
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the gang culture started. Well, we had the bloods and
the crips. I lived down the street from an area
used to be called the Jungle. It's a bunch of
apartments now called Baldwin Vista. And you know I walked
to school and you had to be kind of careful.
I can remember my mother being worried about us. My
mom worked, my dad worked and just being worried about us,
(22:27):
and you know, just sort of warning us, Hey, don't
get involved in anything that wreck your life. We want
you to be have a better life than we had.
My parents are from the South, which explains a lot
about me. My dad's from Texas, my mom's from Georgia,
and they were strict. I didn't appreciate it at the time.
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Now I'm just grateful.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How often do you go back to your old neighborhood.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
Well, my mother still lives in the house, so there
a couple of times a week. The house that you
were born in, Well, the house I was raised and
I saw herself was born in. But she still lives
in the Crnshaw district in the home that that's amazing.
So you graduated at law school in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
This is special for me.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know why? Why that's my birth year.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
God, I'm old.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
He's on your age.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't mind it. I don't mind it at this point,
I've embraced it. So nineteen eighty two, okay, what inspired
your law career? You know, I took a roundabout path.
I thought I was going to be an elementary school teacher.
And my dad, who was very smart and really my
mentor one day when I was in college, said hey,
I'm not sure that's right for you.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Why don't you go work in a school? And I
did and realize it wasn't my calling. So I just
started taking random classes and I took a class where
I met a black woman lawyer. The first time I
met a black woman lawyer.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She lectured.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
Her name is Irma Brown. She's now a judge, but
Irma Brown came in and spoke and she doesn't realize
that she does now because I've seen her, but at
the time shege my life.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
When I saw this beautiful, intelligent.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Black woman talk about being an advocate in court for justice,
it planted as seen in me that said maybe I
could do that, which is so weird because it was
sta somewhat of a I wasn't part of the in crowd.
It was sort of shy and reserved.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
But I just was inspired by her.
Speaker 12 (24:21):
And because of that one lecture that one hour, I said,
you know what, I'm going to try to go to
law school. All I can say to anybody who's thinking
about a certain career, look what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Sometimes Wow is to hear, one person to see, one
person to be inspired.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Today's guest will be a familiar face to you all.
She's a traveler, a visionary, a cheerleader to those around her,
an innovator, an entrepreneur, and an overall amazing woman of
great influence. The woman behind Shamelessly Chante the Bag of
s us. Fresh off of her vacation in Italy and Greece,
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please welcome Miss chance Lundy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now eight now, everything that I have worked, done and
done for the last eight years has been questioned.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So how do I feel about that?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It's interesting because eight years ago Black Girls Sunscreen didn't
have the platform that we have today. We probably started
with two followers, not that little, but you understand what
I mean. We weren't in major retailers, and even then,
the name was questioned, the reason why I was doing
it was questioned, and the scalability was questioned. So everything
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that I was working on was why this know that?
Are you sure it's never going to work? For years, two,
three years, and even today there are still folks that say,
I'm confused. I don't understand why these people need your
product and why did you name the company black Girl sunscreen.
(26:06):
So that didn't stop me because of who I am.
I've been stilled with confidence. Now the confidence comes and goes,
just to be honest, it comes and goes. But I've
always been taught to be strong in my thoughts. And
if I wasn't strong in my thoughts, then we wouldn't
be here today. And for anyone that has presented anything new,
(26:29):
it could be a new hairstyle, it could be a
new outfit, it could be anything new. You want the
world to love your baby. You want the world to
think your baby is cute and even lie if it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So we launch and we.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Got mixed reviews, and that's okay. That's okay because this
is what I'm used to. This is actually nothing new.
For all of my career in beauty and being an entrepreneur,
I've always had to defend what I'm doing, what I'm saying,
and how I'm acting because it doesn't stop there. So
if you're listening, which I know you are, this is
what this has been like. Or Shantay Lundy, the creator
(27:05):
and founder of Black Girl Sun's Green. So until next
time you're listening to shamelessly chantey bye
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, The proceeding was a paid
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