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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is a paid commercial by Black Girls Sunscreen.
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iHeartMedia or this station. Welcome to Shamelessly Chante with your
host Shanta Lundy.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You're listening to Shamelessly Chante and I'm your host, Shantay Lundy. So, y'all,
I travel a lot for speaking engagements, for events. Uh
content uh getting that's even a word, but to get
content for our launches and activations, and I'm finding that
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finding a makeup artist is challenging in different cities and states.
I have my go tos in Los Angeles and New York,
but these other cities, I'm like, oh my goodness, what
am I gonna do? Who's gonna Who's gonna Who's going
to make me feel good in my skin? So recently
I was in I'm not going to say the city,
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but I was in a city and we had to
find out a makeup artist, okay, and you know, we
had a selection of maybe three, but when we looked
at their profiles, the makeup was all looking the same.
The women had the same eyebrows, same technique. But it
was what it was because we were in a smaller city.
So anyway, we booked this makeup artist and she comes
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very pleasant, easy to talk to, and it felt good
and safe to be around her. So she starts to
make up application, and I say, hey, you know what
I want my skin to shine through. I have some
moles that I really love to shine through. Don't cover
them up, but if you cover them up, bring it
back and so forth. So I give her a direction
because I get my makeup done so much, I know
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exactly what I want. Anyway, she's uh, you know, doing
her her setup and doing her powders. I put my
contact lens in and she's on my face and I'm
talking five later, five layers of powder, y'all, and literally
blotting my eyes to put on I don't know. It
wasn't a masket, it wasn't an eye shadow, but maybe
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it was.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
An eye shadow.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Long story short, She goes to put on some lashes
or something, and I'm like, man, I can't see. Did
I bring hazel contacts? Because I wear contacts in glasses
and at the moment at that time, I had a glasses.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It was time to put on.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A context, and I was like, I can't see because
I'm a context I can't see.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was like, did I bring my Halloween context?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Because for Halloween I had my face done and I
had a Hazel context. I'm like, there's no way I
bought Hazel contexts. So she's gaslighting me, like, yeah, they're
probably the Hazel context that you brought. No joke, okay.
And then also we started at four forty five. It's
now seven o'clock. I needed to be at the event
for seven fifteen. I kid you not, okay. So anyway,
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I take out the contact and there is makeup all
in both contacts, and I didn't bring an extra pair,
So two contacts, I'm cleaning with the solution. I even
had to put soap, which is crazy for a contact
to get the makeup off, and y'all, do you know,
the makeup did not come off. So I had to
go to the event almost blind, couldn't see. So finally
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she realized it was makeup. She did apologize, which I
appreciate it, but I was just concerned on that skill set,
on how do you get makeup in your client's eyes.
For all these years, last six seven years, I've been
getting my makeup done that has never ever happened to me.
And this next guest she is she used to be
a celebrity m UA, and she's gonna give us some
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tips and trip tips and tricks. And I can't wait
to tell her this story because it is wild Kimberly like.
And you know, and I had my Black Girl Sunscreen
with me too. I have my Vanilla.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I ordered it from mister Car missed the car. Yes,
So what's going on a blackson's screen?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, talking about appearances, you have one coming up that
we're really excited about. If you are going to be
on the one thousandth episode right now of the Tamman
Hall Show. Okay, So it's a big milestone for her
and she's doing something a little different. So it's coming
at the tail end of International Women's Month, and she's
highlighting women entrepreneurs, business founders, and she wants to talk
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about business. So for you, this is going to be
an opportunity not only to talk about Black Girl Sunscreen
and your journey in business, but just what's going on
right now, the state of the business in terms of
what's happening around us that's having an impact, and how
black businesses need to be supported in ways that they
currently are not well.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
First of all, I'm eager about all that stuff, right
because that's a conversation with in itself.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But oh, Tammoring is fabulous.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We were just talking about makeup and her makeup is
on point all the time.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
This your hair cut to this.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
And fashion listen all of it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Listen, y'all gonna send me on TV. So tune in
to Tammershaw. When does the episode air?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Three thirty one thirty first sleeziter one?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Okay, thweet thirty one, three thirty one three one. I
don't know what that means, but anyway, I'm excited for
that opportunity. Let's see how I do. You know I'm
gonna come with the fit in the hare and to
make up because I make a person's in New York.
We ain't gonna have make it with my eye anyway.
You're listening to shameless he chante Hi.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
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girls side.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
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Speaker 5 (05:45):
Don't crack A dozen black people get sign burned too.
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for men? How this summer streets? Or no got the beach?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
A beach?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
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your You could still get melanoma. It's made wicked avocado
and her home and it's moldy Parker. You could use
it for your lowest woman. Let a son make it mad,
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the show. If you want to present your skin, queen
(06:17):
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Speaker 3 (06:24):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, Kimberly, So who do we have sitting next to us?
I'm so excited?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, Okay. Our guest today is a powerhouse, an entrepreneur,
reality TV start singer, author, and multifaceted business woman who
knows exactly how to command the spotlight. You may know
her from the Royal Housewives of Potomac, but her influence
extends far beyond reality TV. She's a singer, an actress,
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a pageant queen, and a thriving business owner who's building
her empire on her own terms, from entertainment to entrepreneurship.
She does it all with lammer, grace, grit, and a
little bit of shade when necessary. Please welcome the Unstoppable
Candice Dillard Bassett. We are so excited.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm so excited to me, yes, I guess you know
being in the public eye, Like, do you have any
watch out for women?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And then black women? Any watch out?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Like what should people just be aware of? Keep our
eyes wide open? Is it you know the people around us?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know managers?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Is it people that you may think are your friends
but are not, Like, what are your watch outs? Ooh,
this is a good question. Well, you know, I can,
I can start in the music industry. And you know,
anyone who has paid attention in any way to the
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way that the industry has. One of the things that
everyone has always said is, you know, music industry is
cutthroat and it's it's challenging, and people they don't care
about you.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
They just care about the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And a lot of that is true, especially for me
as an independent artist, a lot of everything falls on me,
like and that's been a baptism by fire to have
to kind of learn that and go through that with
my first album, Deep Space, funding that album, getting signed
as an independent artist to Monarch Nashville, and having that support,
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but then still having to navigate the business side of
music as assigned artist, assigned independent artist, and then now
sort of moving into a new space with my new label,
United Masters. Learning the business has been a lot, but
definitely a watch out for me in that industry is
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and with anything is following your gut. There are always
I feel like every musician, every artist, has a story
about that person or those people or that label that
tried to mess them up or screw them over or
scam them. And I have my story, and I just
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I still can't believe that people can be that evil
and that selfish and that crazy. So I would definitely
say to listen to your gut, because there was a
part of me that felt like this person is shady,
and this person seems disingenuous, this person.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Doesn't give me.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Vibes that we vibe And because I was, I'm excited
about how we could work together, I kind of bypass
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But listening to your gut, for sure, that leads into one.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Of my watch outs. And my watch outs are people
that talk about one another. Yes, so you know, if
you talk about me, if you talk about people to me,
you're talking about me me be hothers, Yes, to others.
That's important to me because I think that if we're
in a relationship, whether it's professional personal, we should be
able to talk about it. Like I don't feel like
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I walk into a room and everyone stops talking because
they're talking about me, and I definitely don't want to
walk out of a room and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
People are like, yeah, what is that about? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So I could feel that in my spirit. M h yes,
and that's when I say I got a watch out
for yep, this one and that one. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Okay, Well and just before we wrap anything, you want
to manifest what are you working on? What's next?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Oh my gosh, there are so many things. I'm gonna
look at my manager because I'm trying to remember everything, you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Know what, think about it.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Because we're gonna play a game first, okay, Okay, Well
we'll do the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, Well you talk about your manifestations.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
M okay, okay, Candice. So we're gonna play a game.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's called yes or no like nah, yes, no, yes, Okay,
So I'm gonna we're gonna go around the room. You'll
give your answer, then shanty and then I'll give mine. Okay.
Reality show starring your family.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Nah, I'm so private.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay, I respect you people. You private people, y'all can live.
I'm gonna let y'all have y'all priv but I'll be
watching your show. Yes, okay, Yes, Underwear that is too small.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Absolutely no, nah no because east infections. No, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So I think of smushed in booties and if they're not,
if you don't have, if you're not blessed on, you're like, no,
you're not gonna make me look smaller.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But my god, today, I just it gives you no.
Not today.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But I've been in a predicament where I was rushing,
you know what in this news Sometimes you don't know
that they're gonna be small until you put them. Yes, yes,
but as a new mom, like this new body that
I have a lot of my underwear they're they're not
doing what they need to do, and I'm like, wow,
this doesn't fit anymore. And I was rushing one day
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and just threw on a pair and like ran out
of the house. It wasn't so I got in the
car that I realized these don't work.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, okay, he has holes in his underwear.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's okay. It's fine because I'll just I'll buy you
some more. Okay, So you're gonna let him keep his
holy underwear?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, yeah, it's that's because if when you when you
love the man, and if the worst thing in the
world is wholly underwear, we.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Can we can work with that. But how did they
get holy? This is what I want to know. I
just want to understand why right in the middle of this,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is it like is it like the with like the
chafing when you walk like it it like withers away
the fabric like yeah, we're talking about between Yes, but
I'm talking a hole in the butt. I think I
think gas has blown through the fab That's what I think.
I mean, what other explanation is there? Because I'm like,
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why is it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In your butt?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What are you scratching? Maybe they're scratching and then making
strong Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
That could be it.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Okay, moving on, morning breath kiss.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I can handle that. When you've been married. I've been
married for six years. It's like you start to the
smell just kind of like becomes one with your nostrils.
It's fine, yes, no, and don't come over here until
you bring your tea, see sir, no coffee breath?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, because why are you burning my nostrils?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's a it's a love burn. But in the morning,
when you're laying there with your partner. See, I thin,
I'm perfect. My breath don't stay right?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, see this this is these are your demons you
got to work out. But wait, how about how about
having someone that doesn't smell? Okay, I think that's unrealistic. No, no,
it's true for a man. No, men stink. They don't
have a sense of smell. They don't. They don't know
because yes, like they've been men. Just they smell.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Though mine is like a quick case is okay, oh yeah,
nothing deep.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
No, we're not doing that tongue down. Not in the
morning though either, right, No tongue downs in the morning
in general.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, not for me. Okay, here's another one. Sorry, I okay,
how do we feel about just tongue downs?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Like I feel like they're fun and romantic in the
book in the beginning, but like as time passes, like
tongue downs is like why is that unless you're like
in the passion, like in the bedroom whatever, but like
in the day, like a tongue down like, yeah, but
I feel you I agree, but I feel bad that
I agree, Like I feel like, why don't I want
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to tongue you down anymore? Like I don't number one
when I'm in makeup, like get away from my face.
But even if I'm not, it's like, it just feels
so high school to be like tongue wrestling all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Okay, So I think passion kind of evolves in sure,
so it can still be a passionate kiss, but not
as messy. You know, early on you're just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Excited, Yeah, I want to be a part of the tongue.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then after time it's the passion hopefully for you
is still there, but it's different. I like that, you know,
so it's still a deep case.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it's not age. I don't want to tone down.
I don't want it. Oh, I feel seen. Thank you
for saying that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I want that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. Okay, all right, this is good.
Spirit Airlines, Well, can I just can?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I like, we're going to stay in this area, but
I want to go because I said this online the
other day. Spirit is now also Southwest, which is now
also frontier. They are they are all. They're synonymous, agreed,
and I'm not flying any of them. So nah, yeah okay.
So I also have a.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Home in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
So there's a direct flight from this smaller airport Burbank
to Dallas. Love and it's always self southwest flight. So
yes to Southwest just because it's convenient. No, Nah, to
the to the Yellow not the Nissan ultimate of the
sky plain. It's so play shout out, hey, y'all hey,
(17:11):
because I definitely had one. I definitely had a Nissan
and was always pumping my music. I was definitely wanted
the Miami Chicks.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'm not I'll the this airline. Okay,
economy class.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
You call me bougie. Nah, and there and you know what,
and this was this was like an elevation. There was
a time when I would fly economy, but I feel
like I wasted money because for me, what people don't
realize is when you fly business or first, your bags
are included in the price, and you get a meal
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if I'm flying, if I got to be in the sky,
and a cocktail if I'm in the sky. And I
don't like to fly. I'm like, the Lord is sick
of me in the air because I'm in full prayer
the tire flight. So if I have to be in
the sky in a box, I need a cocktail and
I need a meal. And these are the things that
you get in the first class and the business class.
(18:11):
So what no shade to economy because you need people
to fly economy so that there can be room for
me in first And that's okay. So at this moment, Nah,
it's hard to go back. It's hard to once you
are in that space. And I'm that person that if
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because sometimes it doesn't always work. I mean I've had
to get on flights where actually that cabin is booked
right just because you've waited too long and you just
walk by the people they judging you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And it's like yes, like right to the bag and
I'm like your company pay for that, right, stop, don't
do that, so nah go.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Ahead, nah naha, Okay, bonnet on the airline, we need.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
To stop this way if you your makeup, yes you're
not wearing a bonnet in the airport. The two don't
go together.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
What does what I have to do with the other
air preservationsten you can preserve without wearing your bonnet.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We as black people, we have to do better. Okay,
we know no one. It's an unfinished look you look unfinished.
Take it off.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I don't go to my doorstep to get a package
in my bonnet because you what you're not gonna do
is see me in my bonnet. My bonnet is for
my man and my baby and my pillow. Okay, Like,
there are ways to keep your hair, preserve your hair
on a plane. Like I'm not opposed to, you know,
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tying a cute scarf around your edges when you get
on the plane. But to be trapsing about the airport
with your bonnet and your sweatpants and your slot, stop it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do less. I said that yesterday. So it's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not for me, yes, wow mm hmm okay yeah,
oh okay, Well let's do these last two ques.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I just have two more.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Shave your head for ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Sure, yeah, okay, Listen, hair grows back, yeah ten MILLI
you can also get that the hair. Listen, you get
a good old nasty wig. Yeahs yes, you get a
nice wig.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, my ten million.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Seven million because of taxis. But go ahead, listen, educate
these people.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yes, take it? Okay, last one, no hair and makeup
to a meeting or dinner with the Obamas?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Are we taking pictures? Is the videography?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It's all going to be captured.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
None. I can't even like sneak some concealer that you
don't know. Is there face?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
No eyebrows, no eyebrows now lashes naturally?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Not even so I'm crusty.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Maybe a little chapstick.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Can I have a birth bees or something will give
you that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Ooh they I don't leave the bathroom without eyebrows like
my I don't think my husband has ever seen me
without eyebrows. Okay, think about like this. I don't, and
I know it's for us, how we feel about ourselves.
I don't think that Obamas will even care, right like,
I think they're just gonna be happy to meet you. Well, yeah,
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I will say this. I will humbly brag and say
I've met the Obamas. I used to work for the Obamas,
and so they've seen me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But I was my face was on.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna sneak
some eyebrows on. Okay, and if if you want to
like punish me, we can discuss it on the way
to the Obamas.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, but I'm gonna put on an eyebrow. I'm saying
not to that. You're gonna forego meeting the Obama if.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I can't go, Like how I feel comfortable? Yeah, oh
yeah really, Yes, I need to feel comfortable.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And whatever that look is right because it may not
be full glam. It could just be concealed under my eyes.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I do a lot. I'm busy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yes, I'm not doing it because I need to feel
confident and whatever I'm saying, and I'm confident, So I'll
reschedule when I.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Could wear my hair makeup? Well, who may Who's making
these rules? That's what I want to know. It's just
a question.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's just a question.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, even how much you like the Obama's Yes, Michelle
coming in a glam Yes, with her braids, her braids
are her glam.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yes, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm
just going to have a really cute outfit.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, distract them, that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Distracted with the outfit then I'm going.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And the hair, because you've got great hair yes, m.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, So the manifestation Okay, Yes, I'm a huge manifestor
literally I'm here because of my prayers and manifestations. So
this year I am manifesting more or scripted and unscripted
television opportunities. I am also manifesting a number one album
(23:12):
R and B album because my music is out how
do You Live? My first sing song is out, thank You?
Second single coming soon, full album or even.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
What my next?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Oh, Swan has a song on the album. I'm cussing
him out though, but it's on the album. Yeah, it's
a good song. It's probably one of my favorite songs
on the album because it literally is about like like
I was about to drop kick him, but it's like
but it's it's good because in a marriage you have
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moments where it's like, ooh, I just I want to
run you over.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Are you getting any comments about you being in an
interracial relationship? Not so much anymore, I will say, and
he always yells me for this. When I first started
dating Chris, the number one question I would get, and
I said this on the show was what color is
this penis? Yes, and I don't understand, So why is
that I never I would never look at a white
(24:16):
man and say, hmm, I wonder what color his penis is.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That doesn't ever come to.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
My mind, because if you haven't had any experience with
that type of person, or any type of person, you're wondering.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
What is that like?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
No, I think people do this. Even before I dated Chris,
I never thought what color? Color? Yes, like the size?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Okay, sure, so the color is Is it the same
color as his complexion that you see on his face
or is it a different complexion because it's maybe it
doesn't get any sun I.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Don't know, right, but it needs some black girl's sunscreen
on it. No, we ain't going near.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think the reverse, right, I don't the reverse of
men that haven't been with black women or a woman
of color. Huh, what color are they down there? Yes,
they would ask the same color? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Is it pink?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is it brown?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is it all?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's all one color? Yeah, I don't. I just that
never occurred to me. Yes, yes, it definitely happens in
the reverse.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I don't know, but that was the question that I
would get from everybody in the beginning, and then I
would also get a lot of black women who would
email me and say, hey, I feel disillusioned and discouraged
with dating. Yep, and I'm considering dating outside my race.
Can you tell me what your experience was like? Which
I thought was interesting? And I would write them back
and let them It's a controversial question. Yes, ready, I'm ready.
(25:42):
Would you recommend a woman that has never dated outside
of her race and says she can't find anyone, whether
it's trying to match her education, her profession, her income,
just her values, would you recommend her dating outside her
her raised to whatever?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Why in the whatever? Would you?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yes, I think that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
First of all, I'll say this, I completely understand and
respect black women who set for themselves this boundary. Guess
you're called a boundary that I only want to date
Mary and pro create with a black man.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I respect it. I have no qualms about it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I thought I was going to marry a black man
because my dad is black, my sterf dad is black,
everybody around me was a black man. It just didn't
work out like that for me. But I also understand again,
in this dating world, it's it can it can create
low morale. It's there are so many women I meet, friends,
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my sister, even who are like, I'm tired of dating,
I'm disillusioned with dating.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I'm discouraged dating. No one is meeting my standards.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
All of these men, like the male to female ratio
is such that they have so many options, and I
think social media plays a part in that too. They're
so like engrossed in the social media model of it all,
which gives them the audacity to think that they can
control what goes on my face and on my head.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's that's different conversation, though I'm following.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So yes, I think that if you are at a
place where you're ready to open yourself up to something different,
go ahead. And here's the controversial part. Do we think
men outside of our race right that are wanting to
be with black women value the black women more than
the black man?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Does you know? I?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I don't know that I can. I can't speak for
all of them and not one. I'm not a man
to say I think I think dated both, though I
have dated both. I mean, I do think there is
something to be said for the way that, in general,
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black women are treated when they're dating a white man
versus a black man.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There is this sort of veil of worship that exists,
and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I don't know what we can. We could get into
the history of why that is, but I don't think
that's everyone. I honestly think that it is situational, Like
you could. I know black women who are married to men,
black men that would drink their bath water and you know,
will go to the ends of the earth for them
and their children. I also know black women who are
(28:52):
married to white men who will go to bad And
I speak for myself. My husband literally would go to
war for me. Do I think that means that I
couldn't find a black man who could who would treat
me the same way? I'm gonna choose to be optimistic
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and say no, if if, if I was supposed to
be married to a black man, I believe that I
could have found a black man that loved me the
way I wanted to be loved.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's that's the way I would choose to look at him. Okay,
well this is Candice, y'all. It's me.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Thank you for everything, pleasure having you, thank you for
having me of course, yes, and you're listening to shameless
chante bye.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You're listening to Shamelessly Chante and I'm your host, Shantay Lundy. So, y'all,
I travel a lot for speaking engagements, for events. Uh
content uh getting that's even a word, but to get
content for our launches and activations, and I'm finding that
(00:44):
finding a makeup artist is challenging in different cities and states.
I have my go tos in Los Angeles and New York,
but these other cities, I'm like, oh my goodness, what
am I gonna do? Who's gonna Who's gonna Who's going
to make me feel good in my skin? So recently
I was in I'm not going to say the city,
(01:06):
but I was in a city and we had to
find out a makeup artist, okay, and you know, we
had a selection of maybe three, but when we looked
at their profiles, the makeup was all looking the same.
The women had the same eyebrows, same technique. But it
was what it was because we were in a smaller city.
So anyway, we booked this makeup artist and she comes
(01:27):
very pleasant, easy to talk to, and it felt good
and safe to be around her. So she starts to
make up application, and I say, hey, you know what
I want my skin to shine through. I have some
moles that I really love to shine through. Don't cover
them up, but if you cover them up, bring it
back and so forth. So I give her a direction
because I get my makeup done so much, I know
(01:49):
exactly what I want. Anyway, she's uh, you know, doing
her her setup and doing her powders. I put my
contact lens in and she's on my face and I'm
talking five later, five layers of powder, y'all, and literally
blotting my eyes to put on I don't know. It
wasn't a masket, it wasn't an eye shadow, but maybe
(02:12):
it was.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
An eye shadow.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Long story short, She goes to put on some lashes
or something, and I'm like, man, I can't see. Did
I bring hazel contacts? Because I wear contacts in glasses
and at the moment at that time, I had a glasses.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It was time to put on.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A context, and I was like, I can't see because
I'm a context I can't see.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was like, did I bring my Halloween context?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Because for Halloween I had my face done and I
had a Hazel context. I'm like, there's no way I
bought Hazel contexts. So she's gaslighting me, like, yeah, they're
probably the Hazel context that you brought. No joke, okay.
And then also we started at four forty five. It's
now seven o'clock. I needed to be at the event
for seven fifteen. I kid you not, okay. So anyway,
(02:58):
I take out the contact and there is makeup all
in both contacts, and I didn't bring an extra pair,
So two contacts, I'm cleaning with the solution. I even
had to put soap, which is crazy for a contact
to get the makeup off, and y'all, do you know,
the makeup did not come off. So I had to
go to the event almost blind, couldn't see. So finally
(03:20):
she realized it was makeup. She did apologize, which I
appreciate it, but I was just concerned on that skill set,
on how do you get makeup in your client's eyes.
For all these years, last six seven years, I've been
getting my makeup done that has never ever happened to me.
And this next guest she is she used to be
a celebrity m UA, and she's gonna give us some
(03:45):
tips and trip tips and tricks. And I can't wait
to tell her this story because it is wild Kimberly like.
And you know, and I had my Black Girl Sunscreen
with me too. I have my Vanilla.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I ordered it from mister Car missed the car. Yes,
So what's going on a blackson's screen?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, talking about appearances, you have one coming up that
we're really excited about. If you are going to be
on the one thousandth episode right now of the Tamman
Hall Show. Okay, So it's a big milestone for her
and she's doing something a little different. So it's coming
at the tail end of International Women's Month, and she's
highlighting women entrepreneurs, business founders, and she wants to talk
(04:27):
about business. So for you, this is going to be
an opportunity not only to talk about Black Girl Sunscreen
and your journey in business, but just what's going on
right now, the state of the business in terms of
what's happening around us that's having an impact, and how
black businesses need to be supported in ways that they
currently are not well.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
First of all, I'm eager about all that stuff, right
because that's a conversation with in itself.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But oh, Tammoring is fabulous.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We were just talking about makeup and her makeup is
on point all the time.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
This your hair cut to this.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
And fashion listen all of it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Listen, y'all gonna send me on TV. So tune in
to Tammershaw. When does the episode air?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Three thirty one thirty first sleeziter one?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Okay, thweet thirty one, three thirty one three one. I
don't know what that means, but anyway, I'm excited for
that opportunity. Let's see how I do. You know I'm
gonna come with the fit in the hare and to
make up because I make a person's in New York.
We ain't gonna have make it with my eye anyway.
You're listening to shameless he chante Hi.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
If you want to retect your skin, cry, make sure
you get some black girls side. Scram black your guard
and dodge some sign bas just putting on your black
girls side.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Scream a black.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Don't crack A dozen black people get sign burned too.
As my cousin skimming skin this for women and then
for men? How this summer streets? Or no got the beach?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
A beach?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Fifty side of that dry white cash. You should set
your You could still get melanoma. It's made wicked avocado
and her home and it's moldy Parker. You could use
it for your lowest woman. Let a son make it mad,
make it go, You go what you got it? Start
the show. If you want to present your skin, queen
(06:17):
may show you get some black girls sign scriming your.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, Kimberly, So who do we have sitting next to us?
I'm so excited?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, Okay. Our guest today is a powerhouse, an entrepreneur,
reality TV start singer, author, and multifaceted business woman who
knows exactly how to command the spotlight. You may know
her from the Royal Housewives of Potomac, but her influence
extends far beyond reality TV. She's a singer, an actress,
(06:49):
a pageant queen, and a thriving business owner who's building
her empire on her own terms, from entertainment to entrepreneurship.
She does it all with lammer, grace, grit, and a
little bit of shade when necessary. Please welcome the Unstoppable
Candice Dillard Bassett. We are so excited.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm so excited to me, yes, I guess you know
being in the public eye, Like, do you have any
watch out for women?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And then black women? Any watch out?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Like what should people just be aware of? Keep our
eyes wide open? Is it you know the people around us?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know managers?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Is it people that you may think are your friends
but are not, Like, what are your watch outs? Ooh,
this is a good question. Well, you know, I can,
I can start in the music industry. And you know,
anyone who has paid attention in any way to the
(07:58):
way that the industry has. One of the things that
everyone has always said is, you know, music industry is
cutthroat and it's it's challenging, and people they don't care
about you.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
They just care about the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And a lot of that is true, especially for me
as an independent artist, a lot of everything falls on me,
like and that's been a baptism by fire to have
to kind of learn that and go through that with
my first album, Deep Space, funding that album, getting signed
as an independent artist to Monarch Nashville, and having that support,
(08:37):
but then still having to navigate the business side of
music as assigned artist, assigned independent artist, and then now
sort of moving into a new space with my new label,
United Masters. Learning the business has been a lot, but
definitely a watch out for me in that industry is
(09:00):
and with anything is following your gut. There are always
I feel like every musician, every artist, has a story
about that person or those people or that label that
tried to mess them up or screw them over or
scam them. And I have my story, and I just
(09:26):
I still can't believe that people can be that evil
and that selfish and that crazy. So I would definitely
say to listen to your gut, because there was a
part of me that felt like this person is shady,
and this person seems disingenuous, this person.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Doesn't give me.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Vibes that we vibe And because I was, I'm excited
about how we could work together, I kind of bypass
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But listening to your gut, for sure, that leads into one.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Of my watch outs. And my watch outs are people
that talk about one another. Yes, so you know, if
you talk about me, if you talk about people to me,
you're talking about me me be hothers, Yes, to others.
That's important to me because I think that if we're
in a relationship, whether it's professional personal, we should be
able to talk about it. Like I don't feel like
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I walk into a room and everyone stops talking because
they're talking about me, and I definitely don't want to
walk out of a room and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
People are like, yeah, what is that about? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So I could feel that in my spirit. M h yes,
and that's when I say I got a watch out
for yep, this one and that one. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Okay, Well and just before we wrap anything, you want
to manifest what are you working on? What's next?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Oh my gosh, there are so many things. I'm gonna
look at my manager because I'm trying to remember everything, you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Know what, think about it.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Because we're gonna play a game first, okay, Okay, Well
we'll do the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, Well you talk about your manifestations.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
M okay, okay, Candice. So we're gonna play a game.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's called yes or no like nah, yes, no, yes, Okay,
So I'm gonna we're gonna go around the room. You'll
give your answer, then shanty and then I'll give mine. Okay.
Reality show starring your family.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Nah, I'm so private.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay, I respect you people. You private people, y'all can live.
I'm gonna let y'all have y'all priv but I'll be
watching your show. Yes, okay, Yes, Underwear that is too small.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Absolutely no, nah no because east infections. No, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So I think of smushed in booties and if they're not,
if you don't have, if you're not blessed on, you're like, no,
you're not gonna make me look smaller.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But my god, today, I just it gives you no.
Not today.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But I've been in a predicament where I was rushing,
you know what in this news Sometimes you don't know
that they're gonna be small until you put them. Yes, yes,
but as a new mom, like this new body that
I have a lot of my underwear they're they're not
doing what they need to do, and I'm like, wow,
this doesn't fit anymore. And I was rushing one day
(12:31):
and just threw on a pair and like ran out
of the house. It wasn't so I got in the
car that I realized these don't work.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, okay, he has holes in his underwear.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's okay. It's fine because I'll just I'll buy you
some more. Okay, So you're gonna let him keep his
holy underwear?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, yeah, it's that's because if when you when you
love the man, and if the worst thing in the
world is wholly underwear, we.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Can we can work with that. But how did they
get holy? This is what I want to know. I
just want to understand why right in the middle of this,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is it like is it like the with like the
chafing when you walk like it it like withers away
the fabric like yeah, we're talking about between Yes, but
I'm talking a hole in the butt. I think I
think gas has blown through the fab That's what I think.
I mean, what other explanation is there? Because I'm like,
(13:35):
why is it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In your butt?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What are you scratching? Maybe they're scratching and then making
strong Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
That could be it.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Okay, moving on, morning breath kiss.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I can handle that. When you've been married. I've been
married for six years. It's like you start to the
smell just kind of like becomes one with your nostrils.
It's fine, yes, no, and don't come over here until
you bring your tea, see sir, no coffee breath?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, because why are you burning my nostrils?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's a it's a love burn. But in the morning,
when you're laying there with your partner. See, I thin,
I'm perfect. My breath don't stay right?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, see this this is these are your demons you
got to work out. But wait, how about how about
having someone that doesn't smell? Okay, I think that's unrealistic. No, no,
it's true for a man. No, men stink. They don't
have a sense of smell. They don't. They don't know
because yes, like they've been men. Just they smell.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Though mine is like a quick case is okay, oh yeah,
nothing deep.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
No, we're not doing that tongue down. Not in the
morning though either, right, No tongue downs in the morning
in general.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, not for me. Okay, here's another one. Sorry, I okay,
how do we feel about just tongue downs?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Like I feel like they're fun and romantic in the
book in the beginning, but like as time passes, like
tongue downs is like why is that unless you're like
in the passion, like in the bedroom whatever, but like
in the day, like a tongue down like, yeah, but
I feel you I agree, but I feel bad that
I agree, Like I feel like, why don't I want
(15:24):
to tongue you down anymore? Like I don't number one
when I'm in makeup, like get away from my face.
But even if I'm not, it's like, it just feels
so high school to be like tongue wrestling all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Okay, So I think passion kind of evolves in sure,
so it can still be a passionate kiss, but not
as messy. You know, early on you're just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Excited, Yeah, I want to be a part of the tongue.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then after time it's the passion hopefully for you
is still there, but it's different. I like that, you know,
so it's still a deep case.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it's not age. I don't want to tone down.
I don't want it. Oh, I feel seen. Thank you
for saying that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I want that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. Okay, all right, this is good.
Spirit Airlines, Well, can I just can?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I like, we're going to stay in this area, but
I want to go because I said this online the
other day. Spirit is now also Southwest, which is now
also frontier. They are they are all. They're synonymous, agreed,
and I'm not flying any of them. So nah, yeah okay.
So I also have a.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Home in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
So there's a direct flight from this smaller airport Burbank
to Dallas. Love and it's always self southwest flight. So
yes to Southwest just because it's convenient. No, Nah, to
the to the Yellow not the Nissan ultimate of the
sky plain. It's so play shout out, hey, y'all hey,
(17:11):
because I definitely had one. I definitely had a Nissan
and was always pumping my music. I was definitely wanted
the Miami Chicks.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'm not I'll the this airline. Okay,
economy class.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
You call me bougie. Nah, and there and you know what,
and this was this was like an elevation. There was
a time when I would fly economy, but I feel
like I wasted money because for me, what people don't
realize is when you fly business or first, your bags
are included in the price, and you get a meal
(17:49):
if I'm flying, if I got to be in the sky,
and a cocktail if I'm in the sky. And I
don't like to fly. I'm like, the Lord is sick
of me in the air because I'm in full prayer
the tire flight. So if I have to be in
the sky in a box, I need a cocktail and
I need a meal. And these are the things that
you get in the first class and the business class.
(18:11):
So what no shade to economy because you need people
to fly economy so that there can be room for
me in first And that's okay. So at this moment, Nah,
it's hard to go back. It's hard to once you
are in that space. And I'm that person that if
(18:31):
because sometimes it doesn't always work. I mean I've had
to get on flights where actually that cabin is booked
right just because you've waited too long and you just
walk by the people they judging you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And it's like yes, like right to the bag and
I'm like your company pay for that, right, stop, don't
do that, so nah go.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Ahead, nah naha, Okay, bonnet on the airline, we need.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
To stop this way if you your makeup, yes you're
not wearing a bonnet in the airport. The two don't
go together.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
What does what I have to do with the other
air preservationsten you can preserve without wearing your bonnet.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We as black people, we have to do better. Okay,
we know no one. It's an unfinished look you look unfinished.
Take it off.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I don't go to my doorstep to get a package
in my bonnet because you what you're not gonna do
is see me in my bonnet. My bonnet is for
my man and my baby and my pillow. Okay, Like,
there are ways to keep your hair, preserve your hair
on a plane. Like I'm not opposed to, you know,
(19:47):
tying a cute scarf around your edges when you get
on the plane. But to be trapsing about the airport
with your bonnet and your sweatpants and your slot, stop it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do less. I said that yesterday. So it's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not for me, yes, wow mm hmm okay yeah,
oh okay, Well let's do these last two ques.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I just have two more.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Shave your head for ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Sure, yeah, okay, Listen, hair grows back, yeah ten MILLI
you can also get that the hair. Listen, you get
a good old nasty wig. Yeahs yes, you get a
nice wig.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, my ten million.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Seven million because of taxis. But go ahead, listen, educate
these people.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yes, take it? Okay, last one, no hair and makeup
to a meeting or dinner with the Obamas?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Are we taking pictures? Is the videography?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It's all going to be captured.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
None. I can't even like sneak some concealer that you
don't know. Is there face?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
No eyebrows, no eyebrows now lashes naturally?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Not even so I'm crusty.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Maybe a little chapstick.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Can I have a birth bees or something will give
you that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Ooh they I don't leave the bathroom without eyebrows like
my I don't think my husband has ever seen me
without eyebrows. Okay, think about like this. I don't, and
I know it's for us, how we feel about ourselves.
I don't think that Obamas will even care, right like,
I think they're just gonna be happy to meet you. Well, yeah,
(21:30):
I will say this. I will humbly brag and say
I've met the Obamas. I used to work for the Obamas,
and so they've seen me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But I was my face was on.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna sneak
some eyebrows on. Okay, and if if you want to
like punish me, we can discuss it on the way
to the Obamas.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, but I'm gonna put on an eyebrow. I'm saying
not to that. You're gonna forego meeting the Obama if.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I can't go, Like how I feel comfortable? Yeah, oh
yeah really, Yes, I need to feel comfortable.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And whatever that look is right because it may not
be full glam. It could just be concealed under my eyes.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I do a lot. I'm busy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yes, I'm not doing it because I need to feel
confident and whatever I'm saying, and I'm confident, So I'll
reschedule when I.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Could wear my hair makeup? Well, who may Who's making
these rules? That's what I want to know. It's just
a question.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's just a question.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, even how much you like the Obama's Yes, Michelle
coming in a glam Yes, with her braids, her braids
are her glam.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yes, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm
just going to have a really cute outfit.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, distract them, that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Distracted with the outfit then I'm going.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And the hair, because you've got great hair yes, m.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, So the manifestation Okay, Yes, I'm a huge manifestor
literally I'm here because of my prayers and manifestations. So
this year I am manifesting more or scripted and unscripted
television opportunities. I am also manifesting a number one album
(23:12):
R and B album because my music is out how
do You Live? My first sing song is out, thank You?
Second single coming soon, full album or even.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
What my next?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Oh, Swan has a song on the album. I'm cussing
him out though, but it's on the album. Yeah, it's
a good song. It's probably one of my favorite songs
on the album because it literally is about like like
I was about to drop kick him, but it's like
but it's it's good because in a marriage you have
(23:48):
moments where it's like, ooh, I just I want to
run you over.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Are you getting any comments about you being in an
interracial relationship? Not so much anymore, I will say, and
he always yells me for this. When I first started
dating Chris, the number one question I would get, and
I said this on the show was what color is
this penis? Yes, and I don't understand, So why is
that I never I would never look at a white
(24:16):
man and say, hmm, I wonder what color his penis is.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That doesn't ever come to.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
My mind, because if you haven't had any experience with
that type of person, or any type of person, you're wondering.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
What is that like?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
No, I think people do this. Even before I dated Chris,
I never thought what color? Color? Yes, like the size?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Okay, sure, so the color is Is it the same
color as his complexion that you see on his face
or is it a different complexion because it's maybe it
doesn't get any sun I.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Don't know, right, but it needs some black girl's sunscreen
on it. No, we ain't going near.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think the reverse, right, I don't the reverse of
men that haven't been with black women or a woman
of color. Huh, what color are they down there? Yes,
they would ask the same color? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Is it pink?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is it brown?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is it all?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's all one color? Yeah, I don't. I just that
never occurred to me. Yes, yes, it definitely happens in
the reverse.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I don't know, but that was the question that I
would get from everybody in the beginning, and then I
would also get a lot of black women who would
email me and say, hey, I feel disillusioned and discouraged
with dating. Yep, and I'm considering dating outside my race.
Can you tell me what your experience was like? Which
I thought was interesting? And I would write them back
and let them It's a controversial question. Yes, ready, I'm ready.
(25:42):
Would you recommend a woman that has never dated outside
of her race and says she can't find anyone, whether
it's trying to match her education, her profession, her income,
just her values, would you recommend her dating outside her
her raised to whatever?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Why in the whatever? Would you?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yes, I think that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
First of all, I'll say this, I completely understand and
respect black women who set for themselves this boundary. Guess
you're called a boundary that I only want to date
Mary and pro create with a black man.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I respect it. I have no qualms about it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I thought I was going to marry a black man
because my dad is black, my sterf dad is black,
everybody around me was a black man. It just didn't
work out like that for me. But I also understand again,
in this dating world, it's it can it can create
low morale. It's there are so many women I meet, friends,
(26:52):
my sister, even who are like, I'm tired of dating,
I'm disillusioned with dating.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I'm discouraged dating. No one is meeting my standards.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
All of these men, like the male to female ratio
is such that they have so many options, and I
think social media plays a part in that too. They're
so like engrossed in the social media model of it all,
which gives them the audacity to think that they can
control what goes on my face and on my head.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's that's different conversation, though I'm following.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So yes, I think that if you are at a
place where you're ready to open yourself up to something different,
go ahead. And here's the controversial part. Do we think
men outside of our race right that are wanting to
be with black women value the black women more than
the black man?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Does you know? I?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I don't know that I can. I can't speak for
all of them and not one. I'm not a man
to say I think I think dated both, though I
have dated both. I mean, I do think there is
something to be said for the way that, in general,
(28:15):
black women are treated when they're dating a white man
versus a black man.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There is this sort of veil of worship that exists,
and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I don't know what we can. We could get into
the history of why that is, but I don't think
that's everyone. I honestly think that it is situational, Like
you could. I know black women who are married to men,
black men that would drink their bath water and you know,
will go to the ends of the earth for them
and their children. I also know black women who are
(28:52):
married to white men who will go to bad And
I speak for myself. My husband literally would go to
war for me. Do I think that means that I
couldn't find a black man who could who would treat
me the same way? I'm gonna choose to be optimistic
(29:13):
and say no, if if, if I was supposed to
be married to a black man, I believe that I
could have found a black man that loved me the
way I wanted to be loved.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's that's the way I would choose to look at him. Okay,
well this is Candice, y'all. It's me.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Thank you for everything, pleasure having you, thank you for
having me of course, yes, and you're listening to shameless
chante bye.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
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