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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Chantay Lundy.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning. You're listening to Shane Lessie Chante and I'm
your host, Chantay Lundy. So, y'all, today we are going
to be digging into a cultural and personal moments of
what's going on, from essence, best expectations to should we
stop romanticizing the nineties? To do we share our finances
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with our friends and our family and lastly just grown
woman ish. So if you want to hear our thoughts
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Nice. Yes, we love bigger sizes because that three ounce goes.
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Speaker 2 (07:30):
This past weekend, I'm not sure if I've had fomo
or if I'm just kind of like relieved that I
didn't part that Black Girl Sunscreen, didn't participate in all
the festivities down in New Orleans this year. We have
gone down to Nola like four years straight. And the
issue with well, first of all, there's huge pros on
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going down to New Orleans for for Essence fest, right,
and the pros are, you know, attending one of the
largest black women festivals you know, in the world, not
just the country, but in the world, you know, brand visibility,
connecting with folks that you don't normally get to talk to,
eating great food, you know, and indulging in the culture.
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There's just so much that happens down in New Orleans.
But this year slightly different, so you know, I'm I'm
minding my business, you know, sipping my tea, scrolling, socially scrolling,
socially socially scrolling, I guess, And suddenly, you know, essen
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Fest was a hot topic. And it wasn't because of
the performances or the panels. It wasn't. It wasn't a
hot topic for the things that we know it to
be a hot topic for. But this time it was discourse.
Black folks online were heated about outfits, about representation, about
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you know who was centered at the festival created for
us and and buy us? And I couldn't help but ask,
you know, have we reached a moment where celebrating blackness
is being confused with marketing to black people? So do
y'all think ess Infest still Well, first of all, did
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y'all see what I was just talking about? Yes, a
little bit of it? Yeah, okay, So do y'all think
es Infest still centers the everyday black woman? Or has
it become like a luxury experience for certain folks of
a certain class.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I don't necessarily think it's become a luxury experience, because
I do think it's still very much accessible to everyone.
Anybody can go down that weekend the convention center where
a lot of people go to hear the panels and
get all the free samples and experience the brand. It's
still free the concerts, of course, that's those tickets have
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gotten increasingly expensive and maybe a little bit more out
of reach for some. But I think the experience of
itself of Essence vest is still something that anybody can enjoy.
But I do think it has changed over the years,
and I think sometimes that's what happens when something becomes
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so big and marketing becomes a big piece of it,
and everybody's trying to figure out how they can make money,
and so it's not always about the community and making
it a place for the community. It's about making money
off of the community. And that's the shift that I
have seen. It's changed.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That's fair. Okay, Well, for instance, a woman in little
words right now, But you know, today's conversation is again
talking about social moments that affect our personal professional lives, okay,
And this past weekend, you know, Essence was one of those,
especially being black owned business that participates in a lot
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of outdoor and indoor activations. So I wanted to just
kind of talk about you know some of the things
that I saw, starting with a video of a woman
that kind of went in on Essence and just how
it's changed from being about Black culture to it being
about African culture. And then she took it way left
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and started talking about the CEO of Essence, and it
was like, wait, why all of this, Why do we
care what people wear to the festival, but not why
do we care about how it's transitioned from Black culture
to African culture? And then her sublimmely saying that, like,
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it's shifted because the head of the organization is not
Black American, so they don't truly understand Black culture because
they are not that that was a narrative of the video,
and that's actually the narrative around the rhetoric around essets
for this year, not just for this year. It's just
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becoming so vocal this year because we're in the time
of cancel culture. That's that's the point of it. And
it's so bad that they actually try to blame the
CEO of Essence.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I think it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I do.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I of course, black culture within this country is different
than African country. You know that various African countries and
you know throughout the continent of Africa. Yes, they are
going to be different differences, but well, why not celebrate
those differences. I don't understand the need to. If there
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are elements of Essence this year that maybe weren't great,
we're going to blame this black woman who comes from Africa,
Like I just I don't I personally don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I don't like they're kind of picking it apart needlessly, Yeah,
just to have something to pick at.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
No, it's more than that, right, It is literally how
folks become territorial with things. Right, So the narrative is,
why is it when Black people try to have something
they can't and we have to be inclusive. But let's
just say, if I don't know, you know, the Caribbean
folks have a parade or have a celebration, it is
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for them, and Black people are not infiltrating on those festivals,
on those parades and all of that. So the question
is when can black people have something just for themselves.
The flip side of it is, well, what does black
people have? What culture do we have? So that's the
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conversations that come off of this Essence Festival. It's deeper
than just trying to pick things apart, Francis, it is
going to a place of where people are feeling like
they don't have anything to celebrate, and when we do,
we have to include everyone.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But African culture in black culture are in many ways
one and the same. There are so many things that
are part of American Black culture that is rooted in
African culture, that has stayed with us and that has
come up through the generations that we should all celebrate
and be very proud of. All of the music that
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we created here in this country is rooted in tradition
that came from Africa that should be celebrated. So I
don't think we need to have Caribbean culture in African
culture and American Black culture like it is all connected
and should all be celebrated. It doesn't need to be well,
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this is ours, Let this be for us, Let us
celebrate it. No essence should be the essence of our culture,
which is quite diverse and is copied by everybody else
outside of the black and o freaking culture.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But that's what's being argued, right, So should it be
inclusive or should it not?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And that's that's and that's what has stemmed from that
we that we cannot necessarily Hey the programming ran behind,
or hey they had certain sponsors. The narrative this year
is why why is it this way as opposed to
how it was ten fifteen years ago? So will we
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go back to Essence? I think Essence is still a
great place for connecting with so many people, especially black women.
I mean, there's a movie done on a trip to Essence.
I just think it was sad that somebody was brought
into kind of like this, this dismantling of this event.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I agree, but you know, when you bring someone new
into an organization, there's gonna be she's not new, she's
not new, no how long has she been there?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Fears?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
But I mean, yeah, nothing stays the same over time.
Things change. So to see a progression of the entertainment,
all the activities that surround it's just the black culture expanding.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yes, it gets bigger every year. Essence Fest gets bigger
every single year. You know, three hundred million two years ago,
three hundred and fifty million last year. I'm sure this
year it's even more than that. I think it's all, well,
it could be less this year for a variety of
different reasons. But it brings a tremendous amount of money
to the city of New Orleans. It creates a lot
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of jobs for the city of New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But it's going to evolve and change over time as
everything does, and so you adjust and there are going
to be problems the finger pointing. I just I'm not
for it.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And at the same time, if everything stayed the same,
there were still be complaints about that about something. Oh this,
they did this last year, they did this, They've been
doing this for five years. When are they going to
change and when are they going to update it?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You can't make everybody happy, Okay, Well, that was one
of the big, big social moments, you know, last week,
within the within the black community, especially in our industry
and beauty, you know, as brands go down there to
represent whether it's in a big way or just a
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small way and hand out samples. So hopefully we have
a different narrative around essence next year and all as well.
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black people get sogn So I've been.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Seeing some folks. You know, we grew up in the nineties.
We're not gonna share our ages here, but I've been
seeing folks really embrace the nineties again. How are we
feeling about the looks? How are we feeling about the
deep uplip blinders, the up dues, the fashion? Are y'all
into it? Are we romanticizing it? How are you feeling?
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Is it callings back?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It's not calling me back, but I mean the nineties.
Just thinking about it is just so nostalgic. Things seemed
so much easier then, and of course as we get older,
you know, everything changes, But I think that's part of
what it is. It's the nostalgia that's coming back. People
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remember the good times, Remember hanging out in the summer
on the block block parties and stuff like that. You
don't really see that much anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So do you think we're going back because we're tired
of real life current life? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think it's a way to reminisce about a time
that seemed so much easier and so less hectic and divisive.
And you know, we didn't have as many responsibilities back
then because we were younger. It was just an easier
time and I think probably for a lot of people,
a lot more fun. And so, yeah, you gravitate to
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the parts of that decade that maybe were the most
fun for you. Wise, you pick and choose. You know,
you look back through pictures and you're like, oh my gosh,
I will never do that again. But there are certain
things that were cute, and yeah, you bring those back,
whether it's the really baggy you know, hipslung gene or
whatever that may be for you, hairstyles or whatever. But
(20:17):
I do think it's we cherish those moments that when
we're in the moments, we don't realize maybe how great
they are. And there's so much going on right now
in the world. It's a very divisive place. There, war's
going on, There's just there's a lot of fear right now,
and I think the nineties just was an easier time.
(20:38):
So yeah, people are going back and remembering those times
and wanting to kind of recreate it. I think, almost
as an escape from reality of today.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The nineties is cool. But I don't know. I say,
y'ad would do it for like a look, but not
like like who I am? Absolutely, But speaking of the nineties,
were big grown women. Now we've grown grown, grown, grown, grown, right,
Why do so many of us still, even successful, really
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smart grown women feel ashamed of our financial habits? Are
we looking at and maybe this is not maybe for everyone,
but are we looking at our bank accounts before we
go ahead and buy that outfit or you know, go
out to dinner. Are we able to have transparent conversations
(21:34):
with maybe our peers about hey, are we investing? Are
we preparing for you know, retirement? As grown women? I'm
still seeing that people are reluctant and the shamed of
having these conversations. What are y'all thinking about that?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And is that you?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Honestly, I have a small circle of friends that we
occasionally talk about investing and things like that and teaching
each other how to invest. So for that group of friends,
there is no true shame there. We don't speak specifics,
you know, but just to encourage and just to have
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that conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
We do that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Would you share with that group of friends how much
money is in your bank account?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'm a fast hard No. I love my friends. I
love my friends, I love my family. But I think
my finances are my own and I am fiscally responsible,
always have been, was raised to be. I am all
about sharing knowledge, though I'll share knowledge about investing, and
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you know what's worked for me, and I think that
that's important. I think you want to build wealth, and
not wealth in terms of being rich, but I mean
wealth in terms of being able to do the things
you want to do in life and feeling secure. But no,
you don't have to know how many zeros are in
my account. That is zeros my business, my partner's business.
(23:08):
Only we know what's in our bank accounts, and I
think that's the way it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So your partner knows how much money you got, oh,
and you know how much your partner m I don't
know if I know how much, you need to ask them.
I think you'll tell me, though, Tony, But I'm not telling.
I'll do a roundabout number, like, hey, you got this,
I could cover it. It's never a direct answer. I'm
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not telling.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And it's not about shame either. By the way, I'm
not saying that I don't share this information out of
shame or no it's or out of bragging.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But I do think that some women are still ashamed
of you know, hey, maybe they do overspend mm hmm yeah,
and that's why too. They can't and they don't want
they don't want to talk about it. Sure, okay, let's
just me I know, okay, okay, okay, okay mmmm. Staying
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with someone for their potential.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Okay okay. So for me, I would say it's a yeah,
depending on though where you are in life. So in
my situation, I met my person when I was in
high school, so I fell in love with Yeah, there
was potential there because neither one of us was doing
anything at that point in time. So I don't think
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that there's anything wrong with seeing a person's potential and
gravitating to that and you know, but so stage in
life I think.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Plays a part, and fair enough, I feel like it's
kind of twofold because you'll, I'll, I would stay to
a point because you can have that potential, but if
you don't have a desire to reach that potential, I
might have to pump my brakes because you're not what
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are you aiming for?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What are your goals? Okay I'm an Nah, I'm not
saying with anyone for the potential. They already need to
have it and be doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So there's that okay, stage in life though, you mean,
when you're thirteen, what are you?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And let's what then I'm dating a thirteen year old,
But if I'm dating a forty year old, you got
to be doing what you're.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Doing stage in life okay, but also.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Hold on, I'm not dating someone in their forties. That's like,
I think I'm going to be doing this in ten years.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Like, No, that's crazy, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay. Making a wedding Pinterest board before you're engaged, No, No,
And I have friends that did it, but I'm a nah. Okay, okay,
I mean I pinned a dress like six years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I did.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I didn't make a whole board, but I pinned a dress, right, Okay.
Doing everything yourself because no one does it right? Yes, yes, ye.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Feeling guilty for taking a break, yes, okay, I don't
feel guilty. I just feel like my time could be
spent differently. Yeah. Financial transparency and relationships, yes, yes, mine's
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one sided. Keeping a burner account just to check in
no reasons, you're not telling the truth. What do you
mean you don't got an.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I ain't got the time.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
No neither. Hey, Yadire's a new hack on Insta. You
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been stalking you. Okay, little tip um. No, keeping your
burner account okay. Hitting the microwave the thirty second button
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four times for two minutes. I've done that, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
we'll put you our cycle if you actually go put
two dot zero zero for two minutes. That's wild.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So the number two also gives you two minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Oh no, yes, we're going. If I know for a
fact that I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Gonna do two minutes, I'll do the two really. However,
if I'm trying to warm something up real quick, I'll
do the thirty seconds and if it's not, then I
hit the thirty seconds again, and then I hit it
again and then it's like, okay, it's more.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
No way, thirty seconds all day. That's only button I know.
That is the only button I know, not the only button.
That's the one I use the most. Yes, okay, believing
you can land a plan if someone just coached you, right, yes, no, yes,
I can do it. Let's go. No, okay, saving a
screenshower Emails of Drama from twenty eighteen. Just in case,
(28:00):
Betty absolutely listen. Francis pulled up some receipts of the day.
I said, who is this person? And she said, well,
let me see and pull it right up. So I
don't know. Sometimes I'd like to declutter and I'm like, okay,
this is really never coming back. I will delete, But
I got memories. I'll memories are indifferent. Yeah, this is
(28:24):
always so good. I think it's important for us to
weigh in onto these social moments that are affecting us
personally and professionally, and then just the community that we
live and play in. Okay, So until next time you're
listening to chante bye yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
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