Episode 76: Music and Coolin w/ Clifford Joseph

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running behind or almost there or just late, like what's
your Yeah, I think it's inconsiderate if you're ridiculously late
when I know that's relative. I would say maybe half
hour more, that's ridiculously late, Yeah, I would.

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we've agreed on that time, we know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Three minutes minutes okay, which fashion be late, fashionably late
our hour and a half. So I would put fashion
be late before ridiculous before ridiculously late. Yeah, ridiculous late
in my mind is probably an hour and a half.
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Speaker 2 (05:46):
So phrasis who do we have sitting next to us today?
Joining us today?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Is a music executive whose experience includes artist marketing and development.
His career started with digital marketing and grew to where
he held roles at Atlantic Records, Alan Hit COO, and
was recently head of Urban Marketing at Arista Records, a
division of Sony Music. He's also the founder of DACU
Marketing Solutions, known for his artists first approach and strategic vision.

(06:14):
He has helped shape impactful campaigns across the music industry.
Join us in welcoming mister Clifford.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Joseph all right, Cliffer. So my first question to the
team was does he go by Clifford or cliff or
it's really whatever?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Clifford, cliff your highness. You gotta go with what goals
in your soul, like what rolls off the top.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You got people calling you your highness. I mean it
feels right, Oh yeah, like who It's not that.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Kind of interview. Okay, I'm joking. I'm joking, all jokes,
old jokes. Clifford. Clifford is fine.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Clifferd is fine. I saw a clip just today Nick Cannon,
and he said that he wants to be he wants
to be like a king. Did anybody else see this?

Speaker 4 (06:57):
No, No, I didn't see that. It makes sense and
that's why.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So he's building he has the concubines. Lord. He was
talking about King Solomon, right, and how King Solomon has
seven hundred wives, and I feel like one of his
kids was like your highness. Yes, the yeah, that's like highness,
I think. So yeah, Okay, so we got so are
we going with Clifford today or Cliff.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Cliff is fine. I feel like we're we're friends now.
Cliff is cool.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Okay, thank you. So Cliff, how'd you feel about your
name growing up?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Oh? No, it was. It was tough at first, but
when I got the backstory, it became like a great
like ice break or so to speak. So I'm of
Haitian descent, first generation. Both my parents are from Haiti,
and my father learned English reading Clifford the Big Red Dog,
so in turn, he just named me after that. My
options were Clifford to Bernstein from like them bears.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I just watched them the other day. My dogs watch cartoons.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
No, that's crazy. Yeah, that's what's up. They specifically act
for Burnstein Bears.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah you just know, yeah, talk to me. So wait, So,
but Bernie would have been cool too.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I mean I've done a lot with Cliff, so Burne
might have been cool. Maybe maybe burn or Bernie. But
Cliff feels right. I'm happy to be here. Cliff Bernstein.
Bernstein would have been tough, like roll calling school back
in the days.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know what roasted Clifford was a fight so
worse they would have roasted you.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
That's real hate. And Bernstein that's a last name. Oddly enough,
I meant more Clifford's as a last name that I've
met as a first name. What about I don't know
any Burstein's outside of those Bears?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Can you name the Burnstein Bears?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I cannot idd lean up? And I remember what they
looked like in my head. Remember the mom had a
polka dot blue and white dress, imagine bonnet. That's veryl
she was wearing a bond.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
She was.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Poples in the red suspenders. I remember this.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is hilarious. So now the Burns Bears is not
It doesn't fit a full TV. It's formatic, so it
has like two black kind of like squares, and then
the cartoon plays in the middle. Really yeah, because it's
so dated.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So you're you're a private man. We can't find too
much about you online privacy.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I don't know. I would be myself private per se.
But what I tell people is I speak my mind.
I never share my thoughts, So I don't know if
that classified that's private? You know what I mean? I
think if you ask me anything, i'll answer. I'm not
quick to offer up.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Information, Okay, we're gonna go We're gonna touch on Francis's face.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
But before we go there, touch on Francis face.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But before we go there, well touch it because Frances
made a face. I speak my mind, but I don't
share myself.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right, you did.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I made the face, Not that I didn't like it.
I just it was interesting. You were kmfuzzled? Yeah, it
was okay, but wait, hold on, before we get there.
We did find a picture of you.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay, let's go with pictures.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
What's a miniature dog?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Okay, that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
It sounds about right. Is it your dog?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
No, no, my nephew?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh okay, yeah, few few?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
What's that's my first made up I made to promote
whatever Francis is on. So for a few.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
All right, Francis, So what was going on with the
screw face? I was confuzzled? Okay, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Why were you confuzzled?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Can you elaborate on the kanfuzzlement? Yeah? So, uh, what
is it? You speak? But you don't share your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I speak my mind. I never shared my thoughts. Yes,
do you want me to elaborate on that?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Please?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Again? I think if people were to ask me questions.
I'm not ever purposely high think anything. I'm just not
quick to provide information, you know what I mean, unsolicited
so to speak, You know what I mean. So even
when it comes to IG, I don't really post as
frequently as I used to because I just not into
idea of constantly sharing my life with not everybody that

(11:20):
I know, you know what I mean. But again, it's
so much to ask me question on my thoughts on anything.
I'll speak on it, but just naturally just a talker,
not not always.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So you are Are you a good listener?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I like to believe so. I could be wrong, but
I like to believe the.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Folks that call you your highness say that you're a
good listener.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Actually yes, okay, yeah, I've been sort I'm a good
listener sometimes, but there are times where I think, like
anybody else, I could you know your mind wanders? Yeah,
and you miss what people say. Now you try to
answer based on context clues and so forth. So yeah,
don't we know it so well? Is that good enough? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It works? Yeah, it's cool. All right. So you what
do you do on a day to day?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yes, oddly enough, our product managed so in turn, like
we were discussing earlier about fixes and cleaners. I do
a lot of that with Talent Idy eight, coming up
with marketing plans and strategies we roll out of music
or whatever my clients may be working on at the time.

(12:33):
So on a day to day, I'm taking fielding a
bunch of calls, whether it's producers, partners, the clients themselves, management,
the label, just talking through the many projects we have
coming down and again I'm going to roll out this
song we like right now, I have a talent that's

(12:53):
at Paris Fashion Week, so getting oerary together, walking it
through with the publicist that's on ground over there, tapping
into a few friends of mine who's throwing parties and events,
and making sure that you know, my people's going to
be treated properly out there, because a lot of this
is relationship based as well, making sure that we have

(13:14):
camera people on hand to capture content and then see
it out said content with other publications or influencers, things
of that nature, and just go about essentially telling the
story that needs to be told with artists.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So how did you get to the position that you're at.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's interesting if we're talking music, it was random. I
didn't have intentions to work in the music space. I
actually was working for this company called Robot. I always
knew I wanted to do marketing and entertainment space, but
not necessarily music. I was working for a company called
Robot that was founded by Paul Rivera, Maverick Carter, and

(13:56):
Lebron James. Robot has since turned into Spring. I was
there first hire coming out of grad school, and through
there I met a gentleman by the name of Leonard
Brooks who happened to be the manager at the time
of Wallet. And while I was coming out with an
album he was signed to Atlantic. While it was from
my favorite at the time, I still enjoy him artists.

(14:19):
So why are you laughing?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Because I caught it?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Nah, there was nothing to catch it just was. So
I had put together a marketing plan for this upcoming
project that I was familiar that he was coming with,
and I gave it to his manager. His manager gave
it to the label label called me and was like, hey,
I have a whole department that does what you did

(14:45):
by yourself about working in music, and I was like, nah,
but let's do it. And been in music ever since.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So what was your under your grad.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
In grad school. So I got an NBA in finance
and an NBA and man, there's information systems undergrad yeah,
mis and then I got a bachelor's as well in
marketing and another one in business management. Okay, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is there a traditional route to get to where you are?
So it's like somebody were listening to the show, like
what would be your advice?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I would say there used to be more of a
traditional route, not anymore because if usually go to round
of like interning and from interning, like elevating that sense.
But I think nowadays, like there's so much self promotion
that goes on be on social media. I think whether
it's things like building out a website or I've seen
a lot of people get internships of not lower level

(15:44):
entry jobs so to speak, by simply saying what they
would do had they been running a campaign for artists
and just simply post that. And I've seen literally whether
management or label has circle back around and was like, hey,
this is great, would you like to come in for
an interview? So I ain't One thing I would say
is don't be afraid to share your thoughts and ideas

(16:05):
in fear of like things being taken or stolen or whatever,
because I think throwing things out there into the world,
you're gonna vsually attract the right people.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So coming from a man that says he speaks his
mind but doesn't share.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
His thoughts, my talent though, good, I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So you're not gatekeeping.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
No one kept the gate from me.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
So who would you say is your mentor do you
have one?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I would say a combination between Leonard Brooks, who I
mentioned earlier, and probably Paul Rivera we also mentioned earlier. Yeah,
those two I would say probably be the most impactful
if we're talking professionally.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, what's a what's a big misconception people have about
working in the music industry.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
That it's all party and fun. I think people don't
take into account. I don't think people take into account
how much work goes into even just balancing different personality types. Right,
So you have to please, especially for my position, you
have to figure out ways to please the artists and
please the manager, and please the label, and please a
partner and sometimes all for individuals don't have the same

(17:18):
They have the same outcome, which is you know, success, right,
but everybody wants to go about it differently. So trying
to find a middle ground for all parties involved while
keeping the main individual, which is a talent, happy and
so forth can be be difficult. Again, like I said,
you're dealing with a lot of different personalities. You have
to figure out ways to talk to different people different ways,

(17:40):
and at the end of the day, it's all about results.
So I would say I think people sometimes think it's
a lot of especially in LA, it's a lot of partying,
going out and everything. And though that's the thing for sure,
you know, you can mismanage that it's supposed to be
networking opportunities, so you always be mindful. Yeah, So I
would say that's probably the biggest misconception.

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Speaker 4 (18:30):
The cooks that you've be in the club, I'll be outside. Yeah,
Like party a CARDI.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like, define outside, I mean a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
A lot of things happen outside, right, So there's always events,
you know, releases, parties and so forth. You gotta show face,
you know again, network, shake hands, babies, politicking, all of that.
It's how you build relationships. So I'm outside enough, definitely
a lot less than when I used to be. I
used to be outside monday to Monday. So shota growth.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So has there ever been a time that you've worked
on something that has been an absolute disaster?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Thankfully, I've never had any like real crazy blow up,
so to speak. But I would say possibly the least
well received campaign I ever had to manage was at
the time working with and he was one of my
first artists, working with Bob and you know, having come
from a lot of major pop hit records right around

(19:30):
the time when I got him, just right around the
time when he professed to be in a flat earther
and what's a flat earther? Oh, you believe the world
is flat? The earth is flat. So then he started
to make music leaning towards the flat earth to all
these products, which in all honesty may have been forward thinking.

(19:51):
When you're take into consideration how much conspiracy theorists and
theories run rampant today.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Clever, I that you believe the Earth is round?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yes, that's my my belief, gravity and order.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wait, I got a question though, so with his with
his flat earth thinking, do you think that that kind
of played into his career?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I think I don't know, if it's certain, I wouldn't
put it solely on just a flat earth think. And
I think he did get to a place where and
that happens a lot of times, right where as a artist,
you've reached a level of success, so now you want
to talk about things that are of interest to you
more so than what the label may be interested in.

(20:38):
So yeah, I think I think he was experimenting, as
talent tends to do.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
For some part. I think it was a conversation.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
It was a shift for sure. I mean I think,
you know, there's life spans and music, especially hip hop,
you know, I mean, as you get older, you know,
hip hop has always been traditionally a young man's game,
young person's game, you know what I mean. So I
think a couple of factors played into him not being
where he once was, but such as the you know,

(21:10):
the journey of an artist.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So all right, you talked about something that wasn't well received.
What what what have you been a part of that?
Like being your favorite oh Man Top, you might have
been part of some really amazing things.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, Top Top. I would like to say probably my
first initial little Dirk campaign working with Dirk shots to Dirk. Yeah,
at the time, he had just been let go from

(21:50):
Death Jam, so we signed him at our label, and
he wasn't really much into like you know he was.
He was kind of closed off in a sense, you know,
you gotta do a lot of press and so forth.
That wasn't really his thing, you know, come out to
the hood of Chicago. He was very to himself. I

(22:10):
would say that we found common interest in basketball and
there being such a strong relationship between basketball and hip hop.
We just started to shift his campaigning away from promoting
simply music and the focusing more on basketball and creating
content around that, and that just worked incredibly well to him.

(22:31):
So examples being like, instead of instead of traditionally going
for like the double excels looks and things of that nature,
that we're going to pick him up anyway. We started
reaching out to Slam magazine and House of Highlights, who
has like twenty million followers at the time, and Bleacher Report,
which also had like twenty million followers and chewing content

(22:53):
with them where he's playing ball and making let's say,
like seven threes in a row. And then we put
the music underneath that and promoted like watch artists Little
Dirk his seventhies in a row. So now you're coming
to see the concept, but then you're leaving saying what
was that song? So we weren't like actively advertising the music,
so to speak, as much as we were advertising these moments.

(23:14):
But again, it just resonated with the fan base, with
the sports fan base. Now we started to get a
lot of basketball players that are reaching now. I remember
when we did his project and Kevin Durant reached out,
and you know, I told him, like, yo, share this
with shared us with keV like via DM, but like
tell him, don't share it. And then Kevin started going
on live and playing the music, and that was like

(23:36):
I told him to share it, Yeah, but I wanted
him to do that, Yeah, I mean I didn't wanted
to send it to anybody, but I wanted him to,
you know, enjoy the music publicly. You know what I mean,
so now you know he's on live and he's like, Dirk,
you got to drop this, and now you know, the
many tens of million followers that he has is now
for those who may not have been familiar are now

(23:56):
being introduced to this artist. And it was at a
time when this was a lot more frequent. So crossovers
like that, we're just like very exciting, you know what
I mean. So I think that was definitely some of
my that that whole campaign, like we we ran that
one up in so many ways. So yeah it yeah, yeah,
shots a Dirk again, goody the cliff.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
We have a fun game we want to play.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I like games. Let's play.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, it's called.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah no, yeah, no, I've seen this. Let's call it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Okay, so you know, give you a phrase. Yeah no,
we're gonna kind of round robin it.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Let's do it all right.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So the first one skits on an album.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Skits on an album, yeah, if it's done right, but yeah, okay,
yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Same for sure, for sure, same yea, yeah, same pain.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm trying to think of a good skit, but yeah,
that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, Rick Ross has some skitch with Cat Williams.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
On yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Her best bag is I went back too far with
the that that came into my mood.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
What was you thinking about? Okay, you're nasty, but okay,
I'm with it. But what else?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
First album?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Was it hardcore?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Paying for blue checks?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Saying a lot? Paying for blue checks? Nah, that's a
big Noah.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I was kind of confused on the question but went
to understood it.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
You know, yeah, yeah, if you get it right right.
But I think that's reflective of like probably a bigger
issue with society, like just you know, uh, it used
to be faking until you make it. I think people
have become real complacent with just faking it, you know
what I mean? And even so much so you know,
painful blue check. We're supposed to be indicative of something

(25:54):
like you're someone of status to follow or whatever the
thing is. To just pay for it kind of just
cheapens the blue check in my mind.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So, how you feel this is offscript?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
How you feel about let's just say, wealthy, rich whatever
folks wearing knockoffs?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Dan? Honestly yeah with it. I'm honestly I feel like
I have two thoughts. One when you factor in you know,
how luxury brand clothing is made and whatnot, and how
much actually goes into the cost of the fabric to
make the material in the first place. I kind of

(26:35):
feel like, you know, what's the knockoff in that sense?
I mean they both cost twenty one dollars to make,
you know what I mean, one person just slashing name
on it and upset like three hundred percent, you know,
so does that thought? And then the other thought is like,
I think the lesson there is even the incredibly rich
and wealthy understand the value of things, and you know,

(26:59):
having expensive things, it's more so name than actual value.
So there's a reason why they there's a reason why
they have all the money in the world and still
purchase knockofs. Yeah, the answers are not as far as
knockoffs go, but I feel like there's a deeper conversation
that we had there.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, nah labels using TikTok to test
the song before.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Green lighting it.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Oh yeah, I'm with it. Absolutely. I wish we I
wish we leaked more music.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Honestly, I don't have an answer, Like it doesn't matter
to me.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, what you got same I'm not even on TikTok,
so yeah, got you got you surprise album.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Drop if you have the cachet. Yeah, it's not for everybody.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm here for the hype, so yeah, yeah, I'm with it.
Major label reality.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Shows from the standpoint of sheer drama, I would say yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Real quick, No, I'm gonna say yeah. Paying fans to
promote singles like a brand ambassador.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I'm gonna say yes, yes, yes, And Ganell's oh that's
a that's a no.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
What you got for instan watching other people's TV screens
on the plane.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I don't have a problem with it. So I'm gonna
say yeah, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, and sometimes I want to talk about it. Yeah yeah,
I'm gonna say yeah, deep discussions with your uber driver.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Depends my mood, I'm gonna say yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Absolutely not, I say yeah. Judging people who don't drink.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Coffee, I'm gonna say nah, because I don't drink coffee.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I judge people that drink too much coffee.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't judge those who don't drink because I also
don't drink. But I do judge those who drink a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, for sure. So the last question is do you
wear sunscreen?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
We're gonna s wear Frances Ryan every single what you
got on today Black Girl Sunscreen SPF thirty.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
R og our Queen admittingly not as much as never
learned that I should. Now we're sometimes I'm excited to
use my Black Girl Son.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
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we uncover and learn so much more. Thoroughly enjoyed that
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Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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