Bekka Allick Interview - Episode 21

Nebraska Volleyball star Bekka Alllick joins the show and chats with Deuce and Dylan about anything and everything!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Much so like, hey, like we don't really have an agenda,
like these are like two things we want to talk
about like to start the conversation, but however it trends,
like is however it's gonna trend And like I think
Joe Rogan does a good job but also like letting
them explore but still being like all right, you like
never really answered this question I had for you, so
like let's come back around. Yeah, let's let's hook back

(00:20):
around us.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
We can finish that up.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
He keeps them on track just enough so that they're
like following a path, but they're not like stuck to it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, it's I think it follows like a very similar
format where it's like because it's not something that they
know is like obviously it's like televised, thousands of people
are watching this, but like I think so many people
like when you go to those like debates and things
like that, like you know, like, hey, these are the
four hot topic things that are gonna be brought up,
so you like media train like crazy for those four right,

(00:47):
because you know those are gonna happen. And then because
that happens, like that's so what you're focused on that
you don't really answer anything else whereas like each Joe
Rogan like look, yeah, two hours and thirty minutes, three hours,
ten minutes, two thirty two forty five, Like they're very
much so like casual conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, and it makes you like, you know, those are
promising numbers that a lot of that wasn't cut.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah that yeah rough, yeah, yeah, ninety percent of the
Like I would say that like of a three if
it's a three and a half hour episode, I bet
it was maybe three hours thirty five minutes long, three
hours forty minutes, but barely anything gets cut off and the.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Mail giftson Joe Rogan, he freaking talks about like dude,
I got a piss, Oh me too, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah they did. They literally like, hey, can we take
a break real fashion, I gotta go bathroom. Oh yeah,
we'll take a break. Cut.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So you're just sitting there just looking at the blank studio.
I've been I've been to Austin a few times and
I've I've walked by like Joe Rogan's comedy place, Like yeah,
he's got a comedy place. Yeah, the Comedy Mothership is
on Sixth Street. It's in like the like Sixth Street
is like our O Street, just on like steroids and acid.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Austin, Austin, Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
But I'm going to Austin in July.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hell yeah just for a weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah. I just see my dad go on the quads
go down there.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
The pods, the padre go down to Sixth Street. Like
it's that common. It's called Comedy Mothership. And I want
to say it's near. It's like near near sixth and
Red River Street, maybe Sixth and Congress. Either way, Sixth
Street is like it's like there O Street, except it's

(02:22):
on acid speed steroids, because it's.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Just way bigger.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I mean, there's like I want to say, the population
of Austin's probably around a million people.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's massive.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, Comedy Mothership is there. Joe Rogan lives in Austin.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I believe at.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Least he spends he.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Spends most.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mean, I mean respectually.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I feel like you might have enough prowess to be
like in status to just.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Be like, hey, I'm gonna be down. Do you have
any time?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'd love to at a minimum meet you just say.
I think, like.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
The shoot that text, are we rolling?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
We're not rolling?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Actually I did.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I did just hit records.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So yeah, I just think like if you like not,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I started recording like a few minutes ago, like just
because why.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I think, Yeah, No, I think that you hold enough
status to be like.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I you think so I got forty thousand followers. Is
that enough?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, you got forty thousand followers, but guess what.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's enough to at least get noticed. If he if like, oh,
I mean this in the sense that's like if you
go and like, let's say at a minimum, He's like yeah,
like like we can meet, but like if things go great,
you record this episode, I feel like you have enough
life in the fact of like you hold enough status,
there are enough people. It's it's another one of those avenues.

(03:41):
Like he he gets professional athletes on his on his putts.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's politician or exactly like actor like these like ultra
famous like people who are like known essentially across the globe.
So it's a different avenue to explore different like an
athlete like born and raised in the Midwest, Like that
is not a perspective he has on very often because
he mostly just got he's literally sending it.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Right yeah, I'm sending it right now now why the
hell not. I'm like, hey, well, I'm just I'll be honest, Like,
I don't follow him on Instagram, so I just did.
I go. I've been following your YouTube for a while now,
and I love what you do, love what you're about.
I'll be in Austin the first week of July. I
would love to meet you.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
The worst thing that happens is you don't get anything back.
Oh I Sometimes I just DM like really like famous
people on Instagram, just just for the hell of it.
And one time it actually worked because it was a
it was a concert that I was at in Austin.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think I may have told you this story.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, we literally we're talking about it on the air.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, on one of the episodes.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
This producer named Kate Trenada, who Yeah, he's He was
in Austin and my my buddy goes to ut So
that's why I know the area. I've been to Austin
like a dozen times probably, and I was there for
a concert and Kate Trena was a producer and his
brother Lou phelps open and he's like a rapper and
I know like a handful of his songs really well,
because Kate Trnado produces him, but not a lot of

(04:58):
people in the crowd know who he is, so like
they're just kind of standing there bob in their heads.
But I know a few songs, so I'm like screaming out.
I'm like trying to get his attention. And one of
the songs, Nike Shoebox that he does came on and
I know that song, not like word for word, but
I know most of it, and I was like jamming
out like point, like pointing out many points at.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Me, and he goes, yeah, I see what. I go yeah,
And I DMed him.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
After the show, I said, dude, like that made my night,
Like that song goes crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You two are the real deal.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
He DM's back much love G. That's all he says.
You back, Lou Phelps. He's got I don't know how
many followers he has. You probably have more than he
does because he's like, I mean, I know, yeah, he
he's he uh, he's Kate Tron his brother and Kate,
I mean Kate Tron is big time Grammy's He's got
like millions of followers.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
SOPs Canadian rapper. Yeah, let's let's hit up the Instagram.
What's he at the Instagram.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I guess around twenty k probably for him twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
He's he's so cool. I love his music. Texas by
the way, whelps Texas point three k.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Thirty point text.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Text is sent to Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Why also do I also text his podcast page?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Dude, why not?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You don't double hit both and you just be like
I didn't know which one was the best one to
send it to, blah blah blah, and then just be like,
if you want to check out my podcasting skills, shout
out my boy and yeah, yeah, yeah, please please plug it,
please please, please please it.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But I was gonna say, like the podcast page, I
think it's the likelihood is so high that Joe's got
someone else running that for I.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Bet he is someone else running.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's like I've been public about a lot of my
beliefs and stuff, and I think me and him of
a line, like you could get into it, like we are.
There's a reason I watch your podcast. Yeah yeah, right,
come on, man, Yeah, let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Let's uh, I mean plenty to discuss. I mean, he
he goes at it with everyone on the show. He's
on for like two and a half three three and
a half hours of people, So yeah, plenty to talk about.
But I would bet that that will be at least
viewed by, like by Joe or someone else's I feel
like someone will see it.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Way easier because, like, you know, like personally, I mean,
it's been a long time since I've ran on Instagram.
I haven't had I haven't had Instagram since high school.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
You're not a big social I'm not a I'm not
a social guy and neither of I.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I also just texted the Joe Rogan experience for me, boys,
I need this. Oh my gosh, I freaking love this man.
I just love what he's about. Like he's unapologetically himself
and like the fact that he's dropping f bombs with
the President of the United.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
States, regardless of stuff, regardless crazy, regardless of.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
What you believe.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You have to respect people who just say what they
want just don't care.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
That's what it should be. Like you want to talk
about protecting the First Amendment, That's what it is. Not
even he's going to say stuff that makes sense or
is pleasing, but like.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
The First Amendment, right, is the Joe Rogan experience.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's all it is.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
A freaking tea shirt. Please someone Amendment right is the first.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
That is it? That's all it is. Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Just hop on, you say whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Should we should we even put an official like intro
on this one?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, guy, so this is going to be actually an
official intro. We'll just hit it right now. Obviously we
have not introduced her, but I mean, hopefully you can
figure it out. But maybe the title of the episode
or something crazy like that.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
It'll be indicated very clearly who is on this episode.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
But he's going to know who it is.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
As always, it's another episode of Studio three one three.
I'm your host, Deuce and I'm joined as always by
the lovable huggable Dylan Sash with the you normally got
the badass hat on wet hat on.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
We got a new one. It's a flamingo. This is
my golf hat because it's that like dry moisture. Because
I went out this morning, because you came. You're retired,
I'm retired. Retired. We're both retired basically now. As the
as life roles, we've taken our finals. I mean, DK
still got one.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I got one on Friday. But it's optional, and if
I don't take it, I get a B plus. So
it's a it's going to be a FedEx Friday. We're
just mailing it. In mailing it, is mailing it, just
going through the motions at this point. But yeah, we're alumni.
You're in your golf hat. You've you're basically seventy five.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Once I you know, once I was medically retired from lacrosse,
I had to find a new sport. Had I had
five about about four weeks ago, five weeks ago, about
five weeks ago, I got I got my fifth concussion,
down and out. I've had a concussion every year for

(09:12):
the past five years. Senior year of high school, got hit,
and then freshman, sophomore, junior, senior. No, it's not it's
not right at all.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Bad action.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean, if you look if you look at the
academic trends, I mean, that's when the down downward trends started.
Some people blamed college. You know, I might blame freedom,
but I mean, if we really wanted to, we could
just blame the fact that you know, I was concussed,
blame most of the time lacrosse. The remaining brain cells
that I've had just dwindling. Let's exist appear.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Let's examine the correlation between Dylan's brain health and his grades.
I think as the concussions pile up, the grades good
damn well yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Was just laziness.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I just like stop stuff like I like I tried,
but like, yeah, I'm going to graduate. I'll walk across
the stage graduating. Yeah, I'll be at PBA and I'll graduate.
And why don't they have By the way, our guest beca.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Al Yeah, we forgot to do that once again.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Born and raised Nebraska, And were you born in Way?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Really?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I wasn't born in Nebraska. Actually, I was born in Santonio, Texas.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Born in San Antonio. I've been to San Antonio once.
I remember the Alamo. I remember it every day, even
though it's just you can't forget about it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's his times as a man. First, as a man,
remembering those things his second nature. Yeah, and you never
forget like breathing and as a.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Since I've reflected on the Almo, I don't lie.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
How can you forget it? It's the Alamo I'm from.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I consider myself from Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like, so when did you move up to Nebraska?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So about what I mean you you were born, what
you're you're probably about a year younger than us.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You're a two thousand and four before, I think younger
than us. We're both baby.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're a January baby, January baby's up, January baby. I'm
a New Year's Day baby, New Year's Day two thousand
and three. I'm birthday twins with Ice Spice, not like
the not not the not the exact day, but but
but New Year's Day.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
So much crazy information.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean I share, I mean I share.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I share a birthday with doctor Seuss, with doctor SEUs,
my mom's birthday Shack Shack is.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Birthday with I think I share a birthday with a
political figure. That is something I remember when googling, like
back in middle school when everyone was doing that.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, it's like it was my birthday means you very
very important thing to know you very closely.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Share a birthday with my lovely girlfriend Jenna. She's born
January twenty eighth.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
So that's the same birthday as my stepsister.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh such a nice I got, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Does it happen to be Jenna?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Does that? Maybe?

Speaker 4 (11:43):
I'm thinking, oh hell no, I share a birthday with
Ellen DeGeneres.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh, talking freaking disgusting, talking about that's nasty.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't like that, Ellen Degenerous. If there's one person
I would, I don't know. I don't know if Ellen
would be to you, Prid to share that, but what
the hell?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
One one good?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
One of my friends from sophomore year, her birthday was
Inauguration day, which was just so it's just just just
really interesting to have that birthday because like, regardless of inauguration.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're either.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I share a bird. Oh my god, there's a lot
of people on here. Luke Combs, oh, John bon Jovi,
doctor Sue John bon Jovi, Oh my god, Wilson.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
What's the Nikki Nikki? She used to be a makeup artist.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I used to watch Nikki.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Wait, what's the last name?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Nikki de Jager?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Not that I don't know why I asked, not that would?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I share a birthday with hell wait.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Miami with brain Yeah, Alas something about you?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh my god, Bryce hallis your March second?

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
March March second?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Something about March second birthdays and getting horribly concussed because you.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
And tow.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You've both been eating a steady gye to ct e
for the last four.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
God I have guys. I share a birthday with an
emperor then remember fourteen ninety seven. Oh, that's bad as
emperor his name is Gonara. Emperor Gonara of Japan fifteen
twenty six to fifty seven ruled Samurai now single, I
do actually want one for my future home, like I
want to customs.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Like John Wick, Well, like the well Joe Rogan has
a bunch of Samurai swords.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Of course he does. He's a freaking legend legend. There's
a pond, there's a killed a man. There's a Pond
Star episode about it. There's a soul hidden in that thord.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
There's a there's a Pond Stars episode where Joe Rogan
goes into the pond. The Pond Stars. You know what
I'm talking about. I'm Rick Harrison exactly. He goes in
and he buys like four Samurai swords that are all
like authenticated, like whole like they trace the lineage as
much lineage as you can trace with the on a samurais.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Oh here's another dub. Sorry, I really have to make
up for the fact that I share a birth with
Ellen Degenerous.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
No, no, yeah, I understand I'd be traumatized, right, No,
it sucks, Okay.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Another person I shared a birthday with is an American
scientist named Roy Chapman Andrews.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Andrews, you know, I mean, I've heard the name, dude.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, he's the first man to know to like, have
found the first known dinosaur.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Egg, first to find a dinosaur.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, first found first known dinosaur eggs. Director of the
American Museum of National History.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I can't share a birthday with Reggie Bush.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Reggie Bush, Reggie, why don't I know that trophy? Well,
it was revoked back in his rifle. He accepted money.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
He accepted money before in he was two thousand and six, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Two thousand and five, and then he went to six.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
He accepted money from U C.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
L A.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
To help his family buy a house.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Actually and was the USC.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I would see.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I knew, I knew someone else. I talpkeed on the mike.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yo, I knew it was from I knew it was
one of the Californias. Anyways, he accepted money to buy
his parents house, you know, move them out of poverty,
to help them from uh USC. Well, then of course
it got found out, and.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
That's an even better reason to be the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, then the Heisman than the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Association took his money and took the trophy. And then
when n I L was officially approved and all of
you guys could start making that cash, he pretty much
was like, give me my ship back. Yeah, And they
were like, I guess it's only their What the hell,
what the hell?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
What the Henderman?

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, if it's one thing, if you're like using
that money, I mean, either way, he it's back in
his deserved rightful possession, because yeah, he was the best
college football player that year. But especially if you're using
your money to buy your parents.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's like, bro, he's.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Doing he's doing everything they write those documentaries and movies about,
and you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Really look exactly like come on that.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That would have been a great moment for the organization.
And they're like, actually no.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, because you couldn't get help back then, right.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You couldn't get any You couldn't even accept like a meal.
I've heard of like getting in trouble for like accepting
meal cheeseburger.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You can't even go to can't you can't even do
you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Talking about Oh.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
God, this is the SNL skit, the old.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
It literally was, Oh my god, I can't charge the
Chargers head coach, the brothers. They're both the the Harbor.
Harbor bought a cheeseburger meal for one of his Like raw, yeah,
you're talking like two hundred thousand dollars for buying his

(16:33):
recruit of cheeseburger.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Okay, cheesburger Google search histor. He's gonna look ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Harbor buys a burger for recruits.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
It sounded like Ellen de Generes.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's something crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
The n c doua A issued a Level one, Level
one violation against Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan for recruiting
violations during the COVID nineteen death period, including buying a
burger for recruits.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
That is that's I said, a cheeseburger, and all of
you guys were clowning on me.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I knew, I knew, I knew what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I thought you were talking about the the old SNL
skit from like the seventies or eighties that my dad
showed me. That's like one of the unfunniest things I've
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
In the seventies, he pulled it up and like as.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
We were watching it, he was like, you know, this
was a lot funnier in the nineteen seventies, And I
was like, yeah, that that adds up.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It it always is, you know, like things just age
out sometimes.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
It's it's very funny, true how things that were once
really humorous just pick no longer funny.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, like that used to bring me to my knees
in middle school.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Like yeah, like about like the old YTP like YouTube poop,
just like people making just making total ship posts and
like old like old memes from like from our middle
school days.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Just the least one, the one, the one, the one
that I think about is like the annoying orange or whatever. Oh,
like those those were hilarious when I was a kid.
And I got like a clip of that on my
TikTok the other day and I was so scared.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I was like, what the hell am I watching?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
What's on? Resets phone?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, now you're now got on my sight.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
We just reset my algorithm, burn the page, like dunk
my phone and bleach. Honestly, I those things like my
blood pressure rises and I want to hear stuff like that.
Oh for Fred f figgle Horn, Fred Figgelhorn.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
What the fact that you remember the last name is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, what do you still watch them?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh? Yeah yeah, I was actually subscriber.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah it was dial and I bought it on YouTube
Movies for about three dollars yesterday. I just had to
get a little throw.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
You could not convince me to spend a cent on
that stuff. I remember it vividly too, So it's like,
what's the point.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You remember when people used to buy music on the
iTunes store, like you'd pay a dollar twenty nine for
a song. But before people got on that Spotify wave.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh, yes, Spotify. But then like there was like what
is it, Lime, limewave whatever, LimeWire I'm sure, I mean
there were there was one that like you could download them,
like you pirated them. Pirate Yeah, pirated them, pirated them,
uh like illegally obviously.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Oh we do a lot of illegal stuff on this show.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
All my all the all.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
The music that I put in there is copyright. Now,
don't say that. Don't say that that YouTube, YouTube and
Spotify auto detected.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
They they listened. I noticed that.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I remember when I first got into YouTube, it was
middle school. I wanted to start a thing with my friends,
and they fell off because they realized people would see
the videos. So they're like, oh, we can't do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, okay, so here's my deal. I I always looked
at stuff like this where it was like I was
gonna embarrass myself anyway, like if I'm gonna like you know,
you know, same idea, just vastly different pictures, Like you know,
you're playing sports when I when I with that ground ball,
it doesn't matter because that's embarrassing. If I mess up

(19:40):
on the mic up on here, like, no one's gonna care.
And guess what correct if you if you had told
me sophomore when do we start this sophomore year? The
idea was created sophomore year. Nice, that's when this was birth.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's when it was birth.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
If you had told me, like all of the people
that I would have gotten to sit down with and
talk to, like our our podcast, the first ten episodes
are Daniel and I no non like just straight nonsense
the whole entire time, talking talking about nothing but yeah,
talking about everything, interviewing our like, interviewing our friends. I'm like,
our friends were like, dude, sure we'll come on the podcast.

(20:16):
We're like, great, awesome, We're thinking this time it'll be like,
you know, two hours is what we're gonna do. We'll
cut it down though, like we'll cut out, like whatever
we don't want to talk about, we'll cut it out.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
It was like the most traditional form of bro we
should start a podcast.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It literally was just start a podcast.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I feel like everyone has the pot. I remember going
to Best Buy because I want to start doing media
coverage just for like things in Lincoln and I want
to start a page or just like you know, getting
people to talk to each other.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
And I'm like, okay, I need something more concrete because
that is not original, Like everybody wants to do that anyways.
I was at Best By Regardless because I thought that
idea was enough to go buy stuff. They have a
whole section dedicated to just starting a podcast, and it
made me feel like such a freaking rat in the race.
I'm like, oh my god, I'm so un original.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
And some of the podcasts are so bad.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I see people commenting like we gotta tear iff this
stuff harder than anything Trump's doing right now, like like you.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Gotta you gotta tax it to it.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
But like we like podcast equipment should be harder to
obtain than firearms is one of the one of.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
The the I have seen that before.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I would like that also on a T shirt. That
would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
And then I think myself was like, as what's funny?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Podcast? Are you?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Guys should wear the shirts too, like as a podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, genius. You imagine we started start a studio three
thirteen boycotting podcast podcast, boycotting the podcast on the podcast,
never listen again, never never listen to our show again
ever matter. Just don't even finish this episode only radio.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Just just go to silence, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So when we edit this after you said just don't
finish this video, we're gonna go to silence because the
silence is going to be like ten seconds.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
And then people nature put nature edits so they feel
inspired and like motivational meals.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Why don't I just get off my YouTube TV?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah no, I don't know, but you've seen it a
break but oh yeah, we'll take a break, take a break.
Ones where they're like take we've you know, YouTube TV
literally pays for an AD slot on their own whatever. Yeah,
paid is a loose statement thing, but it's like thirty
seconds and it's just like enjoy and like, yeah, exact
joy there.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
And no, Like I get ads that are like that.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
The original ads like that y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Ever play the like we sports and it tells you
after you play like one hundred games of golf in
a row or whatever it is, it tells you, like, ever,
try taking a break, like put down the remote and
go outside and shows it shows like a little like
it shows like a little clip art of the remote
sitting on a table in an open window. It's supposed
to inspire you to go outside and me the whole
time just like shut up going going, Yeah, this is

(22:42):
what this is.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
This is like basically what they are. It's not their
exact clips, but they're like thirty seconds of like this
and it's like that or it's like like this.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Is this is on YouTube TV.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Wait wait, show me wait. I think it's like like
this one is Enjoy the Zen. This one's a waterfall
kids manaation and sleep in four ks and music. But
it's like just like thirty You would get like thirty
seconds of this and it like on the top of it, it
would just say like YouTube TV so enjoy this.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, we'll just throw all that in there.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
To make people really think we're gone. And then and
then they cut back to this, We'll cut back in right.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now and I'll be like, all right, I don't be
hilarious time we were never gone.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
That popped up on my feet like that was a good.
That was some good.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It was it was inspired.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
That'd be like a real like you know when you
just like something because you're in robot mode and then
you like something because I'm like that was oh dude.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You know how many times?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, sometimes I like something and then go, wait
a minute, actually unlike it because I'm like, ivote, yes.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Your vote, like as if it really means something.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
It doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I know what.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You do not deserve my like yeah right, my one life.
I'm stealing. I'm stealing my one hundredths of a cent
back from you. Yeah, exactly, you don't deserve it like that.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You don't deserve Oh in this economy, every hundredth of
a cent, I'll take that in my back pocket. Yes,
I usually don't go and like I usually don't go
on robo mode and like everything. Sometimes I'll do that
and I do like a post where I just see
like the most egregious Instagram posts ever, Like I got
nothing out of it. It just wasted my time and
contributed to my debilitating doom scrolling addiction. No, but it

(24:16):
was just terrible. And I see it, I'm like, why
I like that? Revote that Yeah, No, and I keep
going on my way.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, because then I learned about the algorithm. I'm learning
more about it because I'm trying to change it. Where
apparently whatever you close your phone on, so like say
you're scrolling and then you finally are like okay, I'm done, right,
it will keep track of that and so you'll see
less videos so the ones that always really get me
off my phone and like back in the present moment
or anything about like scripture, like oh you know what,

(24:42):
you're right, I need to go in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, shut my phone off.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
But I'm telling Instagram like basically, this is when I
log off, so I see less scripture videos. So you
actually have to have Yeah, you have to get off
your phone when it's junk. So when you see like
them freaking blurry videos, you need you need to exit
off those because that's will tell Instagram. I like that's
what's going to kick expedition. So, but that's the stuff

(25:05):
that keeps you on.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Are you so, like I guess I don't know about you.
Obviously you've been pretty public with your faith. Yeah, everything
like that. That's something that's super big for you. Yeah,
when it comes to like social media and all of
those aspects, like for you, obviously you have Instagram. Are
you like a TikTok Facebook? Because like I know Instagram,
Instagram have TikTok.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I do, but I don't use it because I thought
my Instagram reels addiction was bad TikTok.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh it's worse.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
So I don't know how to explain it because my
teammates like, no, it's the exact same. It is not
I have willpower on Instagram. I do not have willpower
on TikTok. I literally had to delete it and go
cold turkey f the drafts because nothing can be worth
yeah rightdiction, Like I was so TikTok was so bad
for me?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
How many hours a day?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Okay, we'll go like pre like you obviously cut out TikTok.
Now you're trying to go cold turkey and get rid
of But during your TikTok era when you had that
on your phone. How many hours a day is Becca
Alex bending on her phone.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
For six hours just on TikTok I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
She's just like us ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, it wouldn't stop. Like it was everything Like it's
a ten minute drive to the gym. Say you're on
a bus, I'm on TikTok right, Like I can live,
but I, oh my.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Gosh, I would say.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's one of the things that I've like definitely noticed
is that's like the worst part. Like I noticed it
a lot last year when I would just like, oh,
like I'm moving from this classroom to a different classroom,
ten minute walk, I'm instantly pulling out my phone to
get like the you know, ten or twenty swipes in. Yeah,
But then I'm like, I like half the time, like

(26:37):
it's just someone talking, and it's like, oh, I want
to listen to this story, So I don't even watch.
I hold my phone in my hand and I'm walking
just listening to this person talk. That's screen time. But
that's screen time. Also. The downside is a big YouTube guy.
I watched all of my podcasts on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
I love YouTube. YouTube. It totally made it come back
in my life and the.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Next year's social media platform.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Dude, Yeah, I love YouTube.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
In the aspect of like I hate like they have
like their little shorts.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
A fan of the short ratchet.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
They're bad.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
It's not the black Friends sends me Snapchat like real.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hell, which is time I see that. I just get upset,
I get visible.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I throw my phone.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm like, dude, like you got to download an Instagram
just like just make a burner Instagram account and send.
I'm not it could be the best content everybody came
on Snapchat a I too.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's like all like everyone's got blown up tits or right,
I mean it's not real content.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
No, it's definitely not.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I I have such a hard time with it because
it is so like like it is one of those
things like life on social media is what they want
you to see. Like I think that like we're doing
a little bit better job, Like I think I think
one of the things I think is funny. Like Harper Murray,
she's very like just like send so like just so

(27:57):
much stuff on her TikTok and it's just every thing
social media there is, Like she is a huge social
media presence, And I think she does a good job
of being like life isn't perfect, Like life is not perfect,
and everybody accepts that life is not perfect. Like I'm
not trying to make you believe that my life is
perfect because every like there is no way, Like I

(28:17):
guess it's not necessarily true, like in the future life
could be perfect, but like, there are gonna be moments
that life is life is perfect, but there are also
gonna be moments when life is not perfect. And I
think she does a good job of being like, here's
this really awesome memory that I'm gonna hold on to forever.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
If you see her in public, you should tell her
that I was like, this is something. Those are the
compliments that resonate with us mouth. I can speak for
the women on the team when people compliment us not
on our volleyball skills or like the little things that
really make us tick. I know social media is something
that makes a lot of the girl's tick. When you
can compliment them on something like that, they're gonna remember that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Do you want me, I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
So obviously, prior to this, prior to coming here, I
was at work, I was talking to my boss about it,
and I was like, I was supposed to I supposed
to leave twelve and I was.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like, I gotta go.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Care.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Believe it or not. Boss huge fan of Nebraska volleyball,
so she was she was like, oh, totally chill about it,
didn't care.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I said something and like we.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Were we're literally walking back from dropping the student off
at the welcome center and we're talking about it, and
she was like, you know, basically was like oh throwing
my pen around. Was like, you know, if re Becca
Alec and I were in a dark alley, I'd feel safe,
She'd protect she would protect me from something.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's my boss is.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I could cry my boss.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
She a great lady.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Is amazing. I mean, like she is. She's from Nebraska.
She's like what you would call like like corn fread Nebraska. Yea,
she is, Yeah, you know the vibe you get it,
Like she is like she is someone that is like strong,
has a good like stands her ground, like doesn't let
people push her around. And so for her to say that,
I was like the ultimate guy's.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
And that's what I lived for. Man, I don't I
haven't told a lot of people this because I'm still
figuring out. Like, like I said, I'm very religious person,
so I don't know if I'm gonna go. I want
to go into mission work. But nothing makes me ticked
more tick more than the Armed Services. Oh yeah, and
there's just this I don't know. Terry Pettitt, he described
it pretty well, like he actually described me as the

(30:17):
linebacker of the team.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
That he didn't fantastic comp.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
That's what I'm saying. And it's like, you know, as
a female, you're like, no, I want to be dainty,
and it's like majority of my life, at no point
did I ever want to play the damsel, because well,
I know what I want, I know what I need,
and damn it, I'm gonna go get it. Like and
I'll be dang this. Anyone's gonna stand in my way,
especially trying to hurt me. I just feel like there
is a new era of women of like, you know,

(30:43):
you see a lot of women coming out about stuff
they don't used to, like domestic violence. Apparently my mom
was telling me how Generation X and everything before that
it was embarrassing for women to come out and be like, yeah,
my husband beats me.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
That is ludicrous to me, right, which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
But now you see fifty percent of marriages coming in
divorce because women are done tolerating the abuse. And so
it's like, you know, technically, if you look at then
fifty percent of those marriages should have never started in
the first place, but their marriages are ending because people
are like, screw this, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You've decided you've had enough of you, You've had put
up with it anymore.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
And that's where, like, you know, my faith kind of
struggles on that topic, because you know, there are certain
things in the eyes of the Catholic Church that can
be worked through. But I do understand wanting to leave
in domestic violence because they obviously need a lot of work.
And I think also as a husband, you definitely crash
a threshold. They'll second laser hands on a wife like
I just don't honestly think you're the same man. It's

(31:36):
just I don't know if I'd ever be able to
look at him the same And so that's a whole
other conversation, right, But yeah, back to what I was
saying about women, like, I don't know, I just stopped
apologizing for wanting to be the girl that likes guns
and likes to kick ass, because yeah, it just makes
me feel good, it makes me feel strong.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, you just got to be your most authentic. I
remember when the Olympics came around, and who was that one?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yes, lot of yeah she's a ba.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah she She's like one of the best examples that like, yeah,
I'm not I'm not like the dainty girl. I'm gonna
go on. I'm just gonna go kick ass.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I do that on Like dancing. She did the Dancing
with the Stars right, and then I would see the
clips and stuff from it and it is like super
cool like for her to sit there and she's I
mean continuously has been like I am you know, like
I acknowledge that I am a athlete, Like I am strong,
I am fierce, like I am intense, Like that is
that is what I want people to see. But you

(32:28):
also have to understand, I'm still a woman. But there
is nothing wrong with me having all my muscles and
being as strong as I am and playing the way
that I play. And then the next day you see
me walk down the red carpet in a you know,
a nice ring and dress and you've got my makeup
done and my hair is all of this stuff. She's ripped.
She's strong and like, yeah, she's strong like.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
The delts dude huge. I will say this, like it
is definitely something I used to hate growing up. But
when I started working on my delt, we get the
little cat like, okay, like Captain America built in shields.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Baby, I will say this, So, I mean your brother
he's got caps, he does, his delts are defined?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, No, he mean he's in great great. He eats
very clean and like, okay, I'm trying to paint the
picture of what he had yesterday. So when he was home,
he had like a full plate of food, a giant
let's say, like half the plate's protein. So like I
think it was like chicken breast, mashed potatoes. He had
a glass of milk and two protein shakes. Oh wow,

(33:34):
And he's one minute and I wish you guys could
come to training table with us, because it is his
plates are infamous. He has a plate dedicated to just
protein and then the other plate is typically veggies and fruit,
maybe more protein. When it's barbecue night, it's bad news.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Oh I bet I can imagine.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I can imagine he eat the rose food down, especially
when it comes to protein, Like when I first, before
he was ever at Nebraska, I took. I gave him
a tour because I don't know, it's like my living quarters,
right And I told him about the protein shake that
the football's guys get. It was almost a thousand to
twelve hundred calories. And he goes, wait what, and I go, yeah,
like that little cup right there, those twenty four ounces,

(34:17):
is that's a thousand.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Calories challenge accepted?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yes, And so he goes, well, I just take it,
take it and don't look back. So he takes it,
and I guys, I kid you not. The base of
those shakes is literally ice cream ice cream. I can
It's like it's literally not even like whole milk, raw milk.
It's literally ice cream that they just pour it and
they are beefing those boys.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It sounds like it would almost send me in a
cardiac arrest trying to drink one of those. I mean, like,
I built like a football player. In case he comes out.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Like banned to you, it's just zoom in on Daniel.
I mean, I'm took.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Daniel is the distance, run country and track.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So I'll go.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
So I've been a skinny guy forever and I would
do the same skinny. I would do the same thing
that your brother did, except instead of like eating like
lean protein.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I would just eat like garbage.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
After a cross country meat my go to meal, I'd
pull up to Culvers. Okay, oh yes, this is great,
and as at Culver's my best story ever. I was
super hungry, so I said, let me get a quadruple
cheeseburger with pickles, side of onion rings, side of cheese curds,
and two scoops of chocolate custard to.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Wash it down.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
We crunched the numbers, my teammates and I and it
was like about twenty five hundred calories or so in
one meal.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
The guy who brought the food out.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
To me, he like said my number was like seventy four.
Something ordered seventy four, and I go, yep, that's me.
He drops it in front of me and goes, eat
up fatty. Right hand to God, he said, he told
me to eat up fatty, and you know what, damn straight.
I had the whole thing in about fifteen minutes. It
was beautiful post cross country, like post five k. Hunger
is a different kind of figer the munchies.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
From what I've been told.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's I I've never I've never dabbled. It's pretty never
to step in neither of I know, but I would
assume it's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
It's like a ravenous Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
So the way so it's so funny is like so
fresh freshman year. I didn't live with Daniel on a
roommate though, I mean I was up there pretty much
every afternoon.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Every night.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Daniel would have these burritos, or he'd come home from
his run and he'd be like, you know, he's covered
in sweat. He'd be like, I just I just ran
seven miles.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
And he'd be like yeah, and then he'd open a
jar of peanut butter and he would have cheese its
and he would just go to town. I mean, it
was not Jesus.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Ritz Crackers Crackers thought it was gonna be that's crazy, Jesus.
I would like, that is horrendous. Cheese its and peanut butter.
If you eat that, you need to be locked away
in an asylum. The worst combat worst I'm sure there are,
but cheese It's and cheese.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
You guys want to hear crazy comba. I used to
do a kid. It's really not I guess it's okay,
like white bread, hot dog buns, yeah, and ketchup just
ketchup just not even a hot dog, just straight bread
and ketchup ketchup and bun. Oh you know.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
In elementary school in middle school, I would eat I
would like they would make those like the flatbread pizzas.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
They would do that, and I would use I.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Put pickles on top of them because, like imagine, it
was almost like it was almost like like if we
had like beef pizza.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, Hamberger pizza from like Hamburger pizza.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was so good. It was my go to. I'd
get like those little like serving trays, like the little
tiny boats.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
And I just would pile pickles on. That's just a
huge pickle.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That doesn't sound total If it.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Was Hamburger pizza, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
I was not doing that just like straight cheese. But
I also was never just like a straight cheese guy.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I feel like the adult version of like ketchup on
straight white bread is like just dipping your dipping like
the cane's toast and the cane sauce. I have no shame.
I use cane sauce on everything.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Do you think, do you think that's a weird combo?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I know I see enough people.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I feel like enough people do that.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
At first one I did it, I felt like, oh,
this just feels weird, like just slattering sauce. But then
you know, I was like, you know, damn it, I'm
going to be an adult and just just grow a pair.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
And do it.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Just dun't get to be an adult.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Just eat it up, just being just use kene saus everywhere.
It costs like sixty extra cents for every little container
you get.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Just be an adult. Eat up.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Oh my gosh, speaking of adult, I just watched this
key and Pill skit and it was so key. Is
the short one right key? Or is it Peel?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Jordan Peele is like the shorter Jordan. Jordan Keenan is
his name? Uh, I don't know, but Jordan Peele's a
short guy.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Okay. So Peel was sitting The bit is that he's
this guy in business and he's sitting by a window
just in a copy shop, and he goes to grab
the small sugar packet and as he's doing so, fucking
nuke falls from the sky. Let's say, like ten miles.
You can just see the mushroom clouds. Yeah, and everyone's
running because you understand, in a twenty mile radius you're
done zo, right, So he just kind of looks at

(39:00):
the window, looks back and takes the whole can of
sugar and just pours it in. And the caption and
the caption of the video is when it's your turn
to be an adult, that's the real world.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It starts to burn. The whole world just crumbles.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I've had days where like you have such a bad
day that you just think it's over, like whatever whatever
you have in life, you're just like.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Dang, like I am making it out of this, believe
it or not.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
The crash out, Yeah, yeah, whenever you have a crash
out exactly like like if you got like four or
five finals stack back to back to back, back to.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Back, this is this is exactly what I think of.
Like I said that, and going back to social media,
so many clips where it's like POV, today is not
your day, And there are clips by the by the
volleyball team and it is literally just like missing horrendously
right into the net, like just stuff just getting absolutely
just just messed. Sometimes it just ain't going.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It just ain't gonna be it ain't gonna be your day.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And I like those are hilarious to me because, like
I mean to be fair, like you guys pretty much
every time you're on that court perform, like there are
like a lot of winds, there are a lot of wins.
I mean your your missus are small misses, like I
mean a'm small miss small, but like you guys work
on those things so hard that it's like we watch
you play and you guys do great. We see like

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the highlight clips and everything like that, like top five,
top ten. Baby, That's one of one of the things
that I love the most are just when you guys
just absolutely stuff Like I think that is just such
a cool factor watching it happen because it is just
like I it's gonna sound kind of weird but not really,
but like it just just like just shows like physical

(40:36):
like just intensity, like you can just like see it.
Like I think Andy Jackson, great job every single time.
She just looks so intense like she I like I remember,
like you know, for a long time it was this
whole like you know, like women have to be reserved,
like have to like keep on under control, like you
can't like let it out like that, but like, yeah, exactly,

(40:59):
fuck that. Like Andy Jackson does such a good job.
She scores and she lets you know that she just scored.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Like she let you know.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
That she just beat you. Hell yeah, it's nothing you
can do, like you're gonna know. And like I think
it is just like one of those things where it's
like things like that are just so cool. Yeah oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
But like anytime that you see like the opposing team
about to go up and try and spikey, you see,
like the best is when it's like two or three
of y'all, y'all jump up right there and then they
try and hit it and it's just not going anywhere.
It's the best in any sport too. Like the Lincoln
Stars to play right across the street. Anytime some dude
just gets decked into the boards and all that, the
crowd loves it just gets rowdy as hell.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yeah. The divand of physicality, it's kind of I don't know.
I think it just kind of goes back to like
our great great grandparents and ancestors, Like people just love
to get physical. Oh yeah, there's just something that rises
in the human nature when there's some type of collision
I mean that's why you see. You know, you got
like wrestling is an ancient sport for a reason, and
you got boxing, you have like all that other stuff,

(41:55):
but it's never you know, yeah, like watching people throw
ball in a bucket. It's fine to throw a field goal,
like it's great, but there's just something so attractive about collision.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yes that and then like, I mean, it gets people wired,
doesn't have to.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I've been getting a lot of TikTok at its about
like Blake Griffin and his dunks because he clippers Lob
City is crazy. I mean it was like the like
the interview clip, it's what so it's him, uh oh god,
it's Blake Griffin. Who was who was their center?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Was that Drummond and Andre Drummond?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
No, I don't know whatever, but basically there's this interview
clip and they're talking and it's like, oh, yeah, we
drafted the point guard.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I can't think of who the point guard is now,
but he was was DeAndre Jordan. It was I think
Andre Jordan.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I think Chris Paul, yes c P three And he'd
be like he know, like like we we're going for
a dunk and you're putting it like you know, like
right here, and we're just like boom, we want we
want to like catch it, like you know, like we
want to go for he like the clip is late.
She's like all right, go fucking get it. And all

(43:05):
the all the clips them are them just being like
you know, all the way back and they're catching it
and they're just coming.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Down on the motherfucker. And look at this, Just look
at loylight tape.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It will never it will never be forgotten.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Is the cure to male loneliness lost from like from
twenty eleven or twelve or whatever years.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
What do you guys think of Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Anthony Minnes Minnesota. I love Anthony.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Then you're doing it all bring yes, dude, Yeah yeah
so Anthony. I haven't been to Minnesota in about twenty years. Yes,
it's so good, such a good one. Yeah, Andy Everard's
the best.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Like right now, I'm getting a lot of tiktoks are
like just wait till I show my grandkids. And it's
like insert blank and it's like Blake Griffin highlights, Bryce Harper,
like it's all these people were like when they were
doing their thing, you were like it was musty TV.
It was must she TV. It is the way where
it's like now where it's like like when you like

(44:05):
for us to try and go watch Ant play, like
it would cost money.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Gonna I'm gonna do everything. Ye I'm back home.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
I wanted to meet him so bad because he's got
that I know it sounds so it's.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Got a swagger, got that dog. He's got the dog.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
He's got that like villain type of energy, you know
what they say, like live long enough to see yourself
become a villain. That's Anthony. And he's a newbie.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
He's got that.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Old school energy when he plays like he's not afraid
of anybody. And that stuff is so rare because you've
got people who bow down to Lebron and so and so,
and it's like not day yeah, because at the end
the day, you're my opponent. It's your turn to lose.
And I don't think enough people understand that in the NBA,
And it's just I don't like watching it.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Lebron James Tory, Lanes, Raisin Kanes.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Wolves and five, five Wolves and five. That was beautiful
And you say lazy what I said? What I said?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I said, Lebron James, Raisin Kanes, Tory Lanes, Wolves and five.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
And they're about to limit the warst They're about to
limit the Warriors. Now, I'm so excited for that to happen,
and hopefully they'll go to the Western Conference Finals and
I'm gonna do everything I can to get it. I mean, tickets,
I'm sure are going to be worth a pretty penny,
but I want to try and get to again because
Anthony Edwards. He's the closest thing the NBA has to
a Michael Jordan or like.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
That's what I'm saying. I love him, I love.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Just somebody like he steps on He's steps on the court,
and it's everyone gets scared, everyone gets energy.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
It's like he really doesn't. He's the kind of guy
you want in the front line with you, Like he's
not afraid, Like he's done everything that he needs you
to be prepared. He's got nothing to lose. And what
do they say, like a man with nothing to.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Lose is something?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know the exact same.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I know I know what.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
It gives me chills to think about, though, Like a
man with nothing to.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Lose is it's dangerous.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
He's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
You think about people got everything to lose, But there's
people who just got nothing.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Everything could go terribly wrong.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
And it's like Vala, like what Vikings believe. Oh yeah,
Like you're telling me that you gotta die try. Yeah,
that's the only I'm going to make.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
It, Dude, I guess so I'll get after and die
try and that's yeah, too bad. The Minnesota Vikings don't
really do that very often.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I mean, the Vikings try.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
The Vikings are, the Vikings are.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
One of the Minnesota teams. They all struggled. We're in
a thirty something year drive. Last time Minnesota brought a
championship home was nineteen ninety one when the Twins won
the World Series. The Vikings fall short pretty frequently. Like
like Valhalla, I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But boxing is.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
One of those sports like we're just talking about with
lob City and all that.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Like boxing.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I truly believe that why it was used to be
so popular is just because, like UFC has taken over,
because everyone wants to see people so fight.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
It's so raw.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
It used to be. It used to be boxing.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I mean my dad says, like back back in his day,
not even yeah Sanursday, it.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Was sixties and seventies and even in the eighties, like.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Boxing was the sport.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
And back back in the really early days, my dad
said that the three biggest like sports in America it
was baseball, boxing and horse racing.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Forming.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I was gonna say, people love to throw money down.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
When I was in England, I put I put like
ten pounds on a horse and almost got two hundred
eighty pounds back.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I went.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
We went to the I think it was the Churchill
Downs race track, and I can't remember the horse that
I bet on, but he the everyone was clowning him.
This horse had no chance to win, but I I
saw him before the race, and I saw the jockey.
You don't bet on the horse, you bound get on
the jockey. You bet on the jockey. And I looked
at him, I said, you know what, take the ten pounds,
giving it everything I got. You know what, please please
win this race. And he got second. And that horse

(47:35):
was he was leading the race for a little that
he was primed to get it done. So the thrill
is there a horse racing is so sweet. But boxing
used to be the ship and it doesn't need to
be a marquee matchup like I've done ring announcing for
boxing fights before because my dad has been involved in
the sport in Minnesota for a while.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
There were fights at.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Grand Casino in Hinckley, Minnesota, which is like an hour
and a half ish north of the Twin Cities, and
it's just random guys.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
They like to fight.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
They say, you know what, I'm gonna get in shape
and I'm gonna go try and beat the hell out
of people. And it doesn't need to be a marquee matchup.
You don't need to be watching Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo Elvaz.
That's gonna happen I think next year, maybe later this year.
You don't need to be watching that. You just need
to You just need to watch a couple of guys
go out. Of these there's dudes who no one's ever.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Watching, an amateur.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Some of those hilarious.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
It's my dad is he's done a fight. He showed
me the YouTube video because it's out there where this
guy was. It was just like a pretty standard fight
and it was a phantom punch where the guy he
threw a punch but he missed, but the guy took
a dive for whatever reason. He goes down and he's
like this just on the canvas. I guess he just

(48:42):
didn't want to fight, didn't want to just wanted to
get paid. Another fight where my dad, one guy literally
walked out. You know, most guys have like trunks, you know,
like they don't look like a pair of under where
they look like actual boxing trunks, almost swimming trunks, just bigger.
And this guy that my dad did the he did
the ring announcing for he walks out and he's literally

(49:04):
in a pair of like briefs and they have like
cartoon characters all over them. And my dad is just
looking at this guy. As you can see the video,
he's just kind of staring at the guy. And most
of the time you introduced the guy with like in
blue trunks. My dad introduced this guy where in the
comic book Underpants.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Oh it's his genius.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
There's some things that these that these more gritty, more
like like involved sports, Like even like the Lincoln Stars hockey,
it's just like, yeah, they're playing a barn, so what
it's it's gritty and that's it's real and that's what's
that's what's so good about sports.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
At the end of the day. I love I love
like the Stars from the mentality that like they're athletes
competing for something like the better they do here, the
better opportunities they get. Exactly, it is all exposure based
and they know that. Like like like, well, when we
had a bunch of people on from the Stars. We've
talked about it before, but like one of them had

(49:54):
been traded and I was like, who were green from
Green Bay to Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
He was just like sitting home with his then girlfriend
and then got a call and said, hey, you're going
to Lincoln, Nebraska play.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Imagine. Yes, he was seventeen or something like that, had
just traded his first year and was like, oh, hey,
by the way, like season's done, You've been traded to
the Lincoln Stars. Pack up and leaves, like drive.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Green Bay is like a real team.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, all the Green Bay Gamblers. Yeah, they're they're the USHL.
They got teams Sioux City, Iowa. They got a team
out in Youngstown, Ohio, Cedar Rapids, the Waterloo, Iowa. The
USHL is just so gritty. But but to your point,
it's it's amazing that you can be sixteen, seventeen years
old and just get traded, Like you pick up and
you leave and you got to go to an entirely

(50:39):
new place where, like you said, your job is just
to like show how good you are, because that I.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Think is sport in the purest form. If you look
at guys, guys in.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Like the NBA, NHL, NFL, like regardless of what professional
league are, and I mean, they've made it, they're getting paid,
like they've proven that they're at they're the cream of
the crop, they're the top in their profession. But these
junior guys like they're just going to be because a
they love it and be they want that shot. So
it's like true, true competition. That's why the USHL is
so gritty. Hockey in general, but especially those junior leagues.

(51:08):
That's why college basketball, I like more in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
College basketball is so interesting to watch because it is
literally them being like NBA doesn't play defense. No, I
mean it's been out there, there's no there's no competitive
but like you get out there and you just watch
these like college athletes and they're like fighting tooth and nail.
It is scrappy the whole way through. They're jumping for

(51:32):
the loose ball as you're diving. Because like even in
games where it doesn't really matter, Like they're putting out
all their effort because they know, hey, one big, a
couple of big plays here could make the differ. I
get to league, I could get to the tournament. Like
things like that that are so imperative, like you see
it all really is a game of survival.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, you're your first sport that you really got into
was basketball?

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Not?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Believe? I believe basketball was?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
That was my first.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Basketball was the first.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
It was so weird I described I'm member feeling dramatic then,
but I think it's the truth. It was literally like
breaking up with somebody. Yeah, I loved basketball made me tick. Man.
It was my bread and butter. And I worked with
Thomas Biglanco and I started working with him in the
fifth grade.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
So basically what I'm hearing is we should have put
you on the Dome crew roster. What is that so
Dome Cruise are athletic.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I haven't touched the basketball in a while, okay, so
like you cannot be me A month to train and
I got I still got my touch every now and then.
You would I have a basketball family.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
You'd be the tallest our team. We don't have a
lot of tall guys for a basketball team, you're.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Six three six four two.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Two somebody's and shoes though, so like six three, so you'd.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Probably be about as tall, if not a little taller
than like Trevor.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Trevor's are Trevor's are taller.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
He's also our point guard.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
What's his last name, Compston?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Oh? No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, I was thinking just about the fact of, like
we've always talked about how like, oh, I'd be so
cool to have like, you know, the co ed team
or something like that. Go kind of easy there, but
you know, we could never get enough girls to play.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
What are you swapping batteries?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Oh, that happens, but like it's like so I work
for the rec center doing all like the sports programs.
Would also like to point out that one time your
brother came and played in an inner game and it
was lights out. I mean the score was did he
go fall? No, it was very obvious he was not
going full, but it did not matter because he was
like he he he scored six points and all of

(53:35):
them were dunks, and it was like it was like
he was it was like they were all like what
would have been just like layups, but mean.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
So that's the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I wasn't playing. I was playing, but still watching it,
and I literally just watch him. He gets the fast
break and it was just like what looked to be
the most casual, like off the backboard lob I've ever
seen an individual put down Like it was just like
he's like got this like light job going and hits
like the stutter, throws it off the backboard and.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Just goes boo boo Mike.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Like he was just like gracefully putting it in the rim,
like it was not crazy.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
There you goes soft touch.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Soft touch, And I'm like watching it and I'm like, God,
I'm lucky if I can, if I can get some rim,
I can get up there.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
You like six, oh, you should be up. You're about
like I'm like six five eleven and up. You gotta
be able touch the rim.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I gotta hit the gym and get the calf raises up.
My running I cross country.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Speed man speed. Think about it. I think a lot
of people like I got hit the gym do this.
You just gotta work on speed, especially the smart that
you are, like us big folks can get away with
just kind of lousy steps and doing it just because
of our reach. But if you burst to the rim
and you get that quickly ba boom, that's what gets
you up in the air.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
I feel like I got to hit the I remember
we had a guy at my high school who I mean,
he's really tall, so we had no trouble.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
He's he's he plays with in the G League now.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I think he's with the Long Island nets he played.
He played college at Baylor and one of Natty there.
But I remember he was doing he was doing like
a little Instagram Q and a thing and he's just
like man. Someone said, like how you get those bunnies
and someone he just said, calf raises.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Calf raise that's it. I bet you.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
If I work on my speed, not my not my
like marathon speeding on that kind of speed, if I
work on my short distance speed, hit the track or
something and get the calf raises, I'll be dunking in
like a couple months.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Daniel, Daniel, I think there are I think there are
more crucial things that your basketball needs require. We don't
got to talk about that, Like my shooting dunk will
take him. But you know what, you're right though.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
If if Daniel want to fast break, could dunk.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Oh, the guys would be fire up.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Turns don't matter, just as long as he could done.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Bro Bro has no touch, no feel when it comes
on ball handling.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
But like let that boy, okay, so but he can.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
So obviously twin, you're a twin. Yeah, we have our
own set of twins. Braiden and Barrett Boudreau. They were
Lincoln Southeast.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
They dogs, I.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Mean, any any sport they play. They are just athletes,
like it does not matter, like when you think of
like natural athlete, like that's that's like obviously obviously they
didn't go play somewhere, they didn't do anything like that.
But like you watch them play now and like one
of our like last inter Marrow games of the season,
Braiden went six for seven from the three point line,

(56:29):
and it's like like he is he is a shooter,
he drives, does not afraid of contact. And then like
we go play innermarals and they are just menaces. I'm saying,
like you want to talk about go fucking get it.
That's that's I mean great balls, like they are flying

(56:51):
and they are they are just like you watch them
jump and they are elevating. They're they're all of like
six foot six one two, but they are they are
elevating and just like going to town. Like it is
like the moment they see that ball, it's like a
personal safety. Gone catch that.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Ball unless you want to get unless you can want
to get put on a poster and just feel humiliated
like you're gonna get its head taps.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
It is. It is. So that's where the name don't
Crew comes from, is because we started playing flag football
and it was head it was. It was. It was
literally just like you'll call it, don't crew. The way
we're Doman kids just picking up off their heads off
and not off and nogging and that was the way
that it works.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
And you know that year we did that, we won.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
And so from there on out, any sport that we played,
don't crew, don't crew, don't crew, don't.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Croup, don't cuse.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Waffle House you.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Always we never closed.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Julio Jones said, that is it's called teammates called them.
Waffle House was always open.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I love that. Biden Bart that's Braidon and Barratt is.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
There's there's guys where you can like watch them like
hop on the court or the field, whatever it is.
Like if I'm the football field, I'm like fairly competent,
Like I'm decent.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
F like football, Daniel's got routes. But basketball, basketball, basketball,
nothing's there.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I can't pass, I can't I can't dribble with my
lad Yeah I can't do it now yet. Yeah, there
you go. I like this room for improvement, Room for improvement.
I'm gonna hit the lab, be back better than ever.
Not here the lab?

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Is that another? Is that lingo for the gym?

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah? For the gym. I love that. Yeah in the lab. Yeah,
we we love to be like you got to get
in the lab.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, like after after lost six a m lifts.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Six am lifts, everyone's got to be in the lab tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah, like film session. We love that. Like over winter
break we were all still like hearing around and so
one day we were like talking like man like we're
so poored, like we got to do something, and we
were like, let's go to the gym, let's go hoop.
I said something and and I do believe it was Daniel.
Daniel was just like I'm in the lab.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I'm in the lab. I've been in the lab. I'm cooking.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Like you got to understand like like I'm ready and
we're like it's Gary.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
It was Gary, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Who said that?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Who said it wasn't it Gary? I'm not sure, said
I I have.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
At some points in the chat, I've told like after
a bad basketball also like I'm gonna say I'll say, like, Yo,
I'm gonna hit the lab. Got to hit the lab
or I sound like a Lebron James highlight tape and
I say this is me after I hit the lab,
like just get ready, I'll just wait on it something
like that.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
But yeah, that's it's.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Like that's where we come from with it.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Where the factor where it's like like we'll go shoot
around a little bit just because like you gotta kill time,
Like I guess, I don't know. Like obviously volleyball team,
big culture base, like you guys got your your systems
and whatnot. Do you guys do like because like obviously,
once again, social media comes down to it, like Harper
Murray showing real life like she posts like her hanging

(59:39):
out with the other athletes like outside of practice. Obviously
that's probably the way that things work, just like cause
you guys have the training room together, you have your
well God wuld you call it the training table.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Yeah, I would imagine it's almost like, yeah, it's almost
like a family.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, it's kind of like the same deal, where like
even though you're sped across, like like you know, the
football guys are probably a lot closer than with the
football guys. Yeah, the other things, but like obviously you
kind of guys crossed. You guys cross and play like
is there is there ever, like you know, the football
team versus the volleyball team in other sports, because I
think that would be hilarious to watch or.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Like the like the girls basketball team and then and
the all volleyball players go up and say, hey, pull up,
let's let's run a little five and five, let's play
a little pick up or something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
I know the football guys do it a lot. I
know they do it a lot. There's a couple of
hoopers on the basketball team and they're not bad, and
so I know they'd like to do a lot of
pick up at the reck or wherever, maybe even at
the sweets. So I know that happens with football, but
with the other sports, I'm not sure. I know on
the volleyball team, sometimes with the girl's boyfriends will like
meet up at Hendrix and play volleyball or after your
volleyball game. But that was more of some of the girls,

(01:00:45):
like sophomore year, so before season was rolling. It usually
pops off in the summer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
You guys hang it. It's like a war zone in
the fall because you guys do beach vollyball and what's
beach what's the season for beach volleyball?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Like the duration? Yeah, so we could it off January,
the last week of January and then we go through
is it first week of April? April, first week of Aprils
when we start indoor season? So the last so last
week of January to the last week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Of March, and you got to go to like you
got to go to California Hawaii? You were in Hawaii
because I remember we were talking about this, like planned
the episode and you said at one point you were
going to be in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Where were you in Hawaii? Were you just Owahu Oahu Honolulu?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I do want to go back to Hawaii. Is ines
did at the University of Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
No, we did practice there in previous years, but we
just missed the Waikiki Queen Beach Tournament. And so everyone
that we really wanted to play was out of town,
and so we just had to work with the local
parks in the local really just the locals. Jalen Rey
is our assistant coach. He's got a lot of connections
because that's home for him. Yeah, so he hooked us
up with some people with that had volleyball course and

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we would practice there. It was way more low key.
I know, my was it my sophomore year. My sophomorey
we were in the Waikiki Queen Beach Tournament and it's
so fun because you're playing against the top.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, it's top of the top. Yeah, right, how come
you did this year?

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I don't know. I think people's school years are changing.
Apparently we missed them. We were a week later after
the tournament, so the tournament was already dead and done.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
We start and get out later than like so many.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Well if you if you look at we go next,
like I think it's next year, maybe in two years,
like we're going to be done, like the university will
be done. Like two weeks prior to we're getting we're
scratching the j we're scratching the jet. We're cutting down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Thank goodness, because the winter break is too long as
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Look, I love a long winter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
It's really long.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
But like by the the last two weeks of winter break,
I'm just thinking to myself, I need to be productive,
get me back to Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, I think. I think a lot of it is
like this impending the impending doom. That is like life
is going to go back to what it was of
like doing this, but like you're not done. Like it's
too long of a break for you to like get
a job and kind of like work unless you already
have like something lined up, but it's too it's too
short to do that. But too short to do that,

(01:03:01):
but it's too long to be like hey, like I'm
just gonna like relax, Like this is like the this
is like my time to relax. Let me do me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
You can't vedge around for like five or six weeks
and feel good about yourself, liked, I love a good
week of like rotting or vegging around just like get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
I mean, I can't do it for a week, and
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
That's basically that's basically what I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
After last night, I took that final.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I took my final. I went home and I was like,
all right, this week, every opportunity to golf, I'm gonna
take it because especially during the week, like cheaper to
go during the week. But then also like it's way
less busy, it's so less busy during the week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
And I was like, I'll take the opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But then after this, like I know that, like I
can't be doing that, Like I'm gonna finish out my week.
We're gonna hang out Loki be a bum. But like
once we do that, we ain't retired yet. Good, our
professional careers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Have not begun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I think both of us are still seeking employment. I'm
still seeking that job. I just have a job interview
here soon though.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And I did my final interview you with p S
the Power Systems Engineering where it's like the I'd be
like an analyst business side for an electrical engineering firm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So knock on wood hope hopefully what knocked on the head.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Hopefully, hopefully they'll.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Send it off for my way because I did the
final thing on Friday, so we're we're hoping and praying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Please give me a job, please, please, please, please please
hire me. That's all I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
You'll get hired. You No, no, I don't know what
you guys are like, but you seem like I don't
hire you. Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
We've been hanging out for an hour, and you're just
you don't know what we're like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
I'm telling you off of first impressions. I just feel like,
you know, guys, we're very hirable.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
We're both like agreeable people, I think is the Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
And you also seem very intentional about your work.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, you know, we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I mean, we're not out here spilling our deepest, darkest secrets.
But you can tell that we're pretty like approachable people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
And that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
That's how I approach my interviews. I try to make
some conversations. Like I started in one of the not
the final interview, but one of the initial stage interviews.
I was I started like, we were just talking about
hockey for a little bit, and then one of the
guys goes, yeah, if you you like hockey in the
right like right company, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Was like, yeah, that's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, you got to make a conversations for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
You obviously, junior ending your junior year, do you get
a fifth year? Are you going to try and play
as long as possible? What's that look like for you
when it comes to Obviously, obviously there's been a big
boom with the professional volleyball sport. I mean, like we've
got the SuperM like we've we've got we got love
volleyball going on as well, Like obviously there's a lot

(01:05:28):
of different leagues to get into. Now, is that something
that you definitely see as like given the opportunity you take,
Like obviously you said basketball first, love broke up, broke
up with the girlfriend or boyfriend, and boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Was totally my boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I mean that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Friend I had.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Now basketball is the mistress, if you will, like you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Is it more of like focus on obviously you've got
next season and volleyball still? Is it one of those
were like you're going to focus on that first or
are you kind of already thinking about future after Nebraska?
What's that look like for you?

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Gosh, I have thought about this a lot, and I
will be for a while. I don't really know because
until NCAA makes up their mind. M I have to
treat this year like my senior year, which is crazy
because knowing that I actually have a chance of it
not being is I don't know. I just wish I
knew what was going on. So I know, like what
am I am? I this is my goodbye or what

(01:06:29):
you know. So if I do get a fifth year,
that's going to be a lot of prayer and a
lot of conversation because I love Nebraska and I love
the city, but I'm also ready for the next phase
of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
But also, like with revenue sharing, it's giving me a
chance to you know, prepare for the adult life and
I don't know, buy some land. Like it makes serious decisions. Yeah,
and yeah, I don't know, it's like an easy paycheck too,
you know, I got to stay on top of my classes.
So yeah, I don't know. I think if I do

(01:07:01):
if this is my senior year, I don't know if
I'll take that beach season because I'll probably start pro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, right, and very very similar to what Lexi did, right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Yeah, Yeah, she just went right with it, and majority
of the girls that went pro did that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
But you when you have these conversations, that's something we're like,
they're being big influences and you know, pretty helpful when
it comes to that, because obviously Lexi's someone that did
and followed a very similar path, like you could reach
out to her. I assume that to some degree, you
guys still have a loose line of communication, especially knowing
that like they come back, like we've seen social media

(01:07:35):
once again has been a big influence of showing like hey,
like like these are my girls still, Like I still
want to support them, like growing that sport and being
a part of that sport, Like it's a huge thing
here in Nebraska. Like I would assume that Lexi is
one of those people where when you have those comments
and like thoughts like that's a good person to reach out,
almost like a big sister.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, dude, Lexi's the greatest. I It still
breaks my heart that I never got a win one
for her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
She deserved, right, she really did. Yeah, my grandma loved Lexi.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
She's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
The heart and soul that I mean, it's hard to
put put it on like any one person. And Lexi
stepped on the court and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
It was she was undeniable.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, like there was, there was, there was a presence.
There was like like each time she played and there
was so much passion, like you like you knew that
she was just like she loved it like every single time.
It was one of those deals where I mean watching
her dive into stands and like slide across the court
like you knew it it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
It was just crazy work passion.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I mean, you're one of the You're you're one of
the most like out of everyone, Like we're talking about
Andy when she scores, like you know she scores.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah, you're up there too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
I mean it comes out like that competitive nature and
you has that always been there for you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I mean you're always.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Does it come from the twin? I don't want to
come from your brother, because like I think it's just
that all five of my siblings. I I just remember
we used to my mom used to take us to
the park out here in Lincoln and we would just
race everything the competition. One time, me and my little
brother were racing home and I was starting to beat
him for the first time, and he shoved me in
to the sidewalk. I was I was like, oh you

(01:09:10):
did not because it hurt. It wasn't like a little tap.
It was a full boy just shoved a girl moment.
I was speechless. I go, okay, you can't, you can't.
I was sobbing and I milked so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I think that is the moment that created the Becka
Alec we know and appreciate today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I think I just can't believe it cheated like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
That moment created the Division one athlete that we see today.
I mean, if the villain, if that super villain, if
that didn't happen, who knows, Like you never know what
gonna happen now, but it happened, and she took that personally.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
She took it personally. I think any like I think
anyone that has like a competitive spirit, like oh man,
I listened to a podcast where they talked about it
and I can't remember what it was, where they literally
talked about like this, like no one likes to lose,
like period, you you should never do something where you're
okay with losing Like that is such a mentality to

(01:10:05):
have that I think is like it's the same deal.
You look at it like applying for a job interview,
like you should never apply to place where you go
if I don't get the job, like I don't really care, No,
you give it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
You're all in any any interview, any like prof and
anything that you're pursuing, even if it's not competitive, Like
I feel like people make grades really competitive a lot
of times, Like yeah, if I don't do better than
the average, if I don't do better than my buddy,
like that can bother you. But yeah, if it's a competition,
anything that I'm competing, and like, you can't just half
asked something when when you have that natural competitive drive

(01:10:37):
in you, and a lot of it comes from siblings.
I mean I have a little brother and he's we
kind of did we gravitated towards different sports. But like
anything that you're doing, you want to be better than
your brother.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
It's just natural. Yeah, even if you support them, love them,
you want to kick ass better. Has having a sister
who's also playing collegiate volleyball been something that you feel
like has been a big impact for you? I guess
competitive wise, I think we talked about already where it
was like, you know, like you competitive person, You've always

(01:11:08):
been a competitive person. You always want to win. Do
you think given the opportunity like playing with your sister,
because I guess I don't know, did you do that
in high school as well? Were you guys? Because obviously
Waverley and then you transferred, did she transfer with you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Uh? Yeah, she did move to the whole family picked
up and moved to Waverley, So yeah, that was a moment.
Those were the teams we got to play together. There
was a few other teams we got to play together
on when we were younger at VCN, but it wasn't
UNTI high school that we played together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
And then did you guys do travel ball together as well?
At all basketball or basketball or volleyball?

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
No, like there was. I don't have a lot of
memories of us being on the same club team, but
in basketball, yeah, we were always on the same team.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Yeah, I think she was on the second team for
a minute and then she was back up because her defense,
that woman can take a charge.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
The way to play, that's the way to play.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
She was kind of nerve wrecking because of all the concussions.
She has to just throws herself.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
If is she rocking five two five concussions?

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Yeah, she's honestly up there. I think three or four.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
If I try and take a charge, I'm going to
be paralyzed from the neck down. Some of those some
of those intermural guys that we play not like huge
with some of our big boys, and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
If I tried to we we played some athletic men,
I'd get it's it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Like thirties. Yeah, yeah, like that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
They're they're kind of intense, like some of the games
that we've played in, Like it is intense and it's physical,
and you would think we're playing for the chip every
single time these games like something. You know, this is
no disrespect. Some of these frat teams think that each
game is literally the chip. It is life and death
to them to play and to win, like losing brings

(01:12:51):
disgrace to their house, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
It's like no one, I promise you, And it's like
pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I mean we both knew Gabby.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Who reft a lot of the intramural game and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
She she did that for a while and she just
she eventually quit because I that was on sophomore year.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
We like both is it because of the boys?

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Not entirely, but like I mean I can imagine that
every game she was getting like yelled at by like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Washed up JV. Frapp.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
It is tough, and it's like I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't ref Like, no one's getting paid enough to
handle all that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Yeah, so work working for the intermural programs, Like it's
tough because I mean, I hate to say it, but
there's a huge disparity when it comes to like if
we put a girl ref out there, like they just
get treated like it is ten times worse. Oh yeah
it is. It is so significant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
When we have so one of our one of our
fellow co workers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Her name is Mackenzie. McKenzie played basketball all her life.
She knows basketball better than most of the refs that
also are reffing, and she'll make a call and it
is immediate, Like you would not believe how fast those
guys turn on her.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
And it's like people do to the scorekeepers. Yeah, people
do to the scorekeepers too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Who has not that deep The only play that they
have in this game is like pressing the start and
stop button. That's it, and that's you know, it's all
they get because like sometimes the clock stops for like
short periods, but like most of the time, we want
a pretty tight ship, so it just straight runs. But
like they immed like the moment that like their team
is quote unquote in jeopardy, they turn on the first

(01:14:26):
person available and if it's not if it's if there's
a girl there, it is immediately turned on the girl.
I don't know, if it's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Coming from a place of deep down insecurity, or they
they don't like themselves, they got some guilt or some
some unresolved trauma.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
But just let's just back it up, guys. The big ones,
The biggest one that we see in is soccer because
most of our refs are girls, and those guys like
if they make a call that they don't necessarily agree
on or they miss a call, I guess the worst
thing is like, you don't you don't expect you know,
pro refs to be perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Guys there you damn straight, I can't expect an.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
We all acknowledge that it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Like it's something that comes across the board, and they
like it is like a light switch, like it just
flips and they are so fast to turn on the
reps and it is crazy. There's there's been more than
one time in which as like the staff assistn't working
like that. I immediately am like, all right, man, you're done,
Like I've decided you're done for the day, Like I

(01:15:28):
will pull you out. You can play again next week,
but for today, like, yeah, you're done.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
We've we've played against teams where guys got to get
pulled out of the game, like they get flagged for
like an unsportsman like and then they have to go
like fill out like a form on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Basically just saying like, hey, this is what happens is
how I behave badly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
This is how I'm going to fix it because people
be acting like children at these games. And like the
this last football game, those guys that we played were
just dicks, Like there's stuff. They have a couple a
couple of guys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
On that team.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
We're really nice, really cool dudes. Like one of them
in particular, I know really well. And I look at
him because it was it was it was a frat team.
I won't like call him out, but it was a
frat team, and I was like, how did you end.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Up with all these like dick wads?

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Like how is that humanly?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
You know what? It takes one to no one. And
I'm not saying that about you. I'm saying like, when
they go out and recruit guys, you are kind of
what like you attract Yeah, it's like yeah, so it's
probably a trend. In the frat, and I would even
dare to say it's maybe what they look for.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
When I did the whole rush process, there were some
guys that I wouldn't even be at like an official
event for him, but I would like talk to him,
and within about thirty seconds, you know like, yeah, these
are guys that I want to be around, or yeah,
I never want to be associated with anyone like this,
Like you can tell pretty quickly, And after talking with
a few of the guys that we played at last game,

(01:16:50):
you could tell very quickly that these are not guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Oh we'll be around straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Now what about I mean we're talking about like this culture,
nonsense about like the frat, like gut like guy the
things that people are like trying to attract to their program.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
And you got a new head coach, Yes, big news.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
What's the biggest thing like that she's going to do
for the program that you oh, my person, and I
know that it's it's hard to chock this thing up
into like one simple statement.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Especially her only being here a couple of months.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Exactly exactly, but but a former champion, I mean, what
is she going to do for the team, Like, what's
she going to bring to the table.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Well, what isn't she going to do? So, my gosh,
I think it starts with her personality. Just like who
she is as a person I can talk about. I
just love her whole demeanor. I think she is so
down to earth. She's played for John Cook, so she
understands just like the difference in culture and coaching styles.
And I'm honestly just really proud of how An apologics.

(01:17:49):
She is, like she answers to no one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
She also has the most dope middle name ever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Bus Boom. Is that that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
It's like I think it's a double ass name, like
bus Boom.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
It's the double okay, double Danny Buss Boom. Kelly, Yeah, DBK.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
That is like if I was in the war and
that was my president Hale. Yeah, for her, sergeant, I
would fight for that woman.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
You know things are going to be all right if yes, man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Like she tells you, this is what we're gonna do,
this is why we're gonna do it. If you got
any questions, I am here, I will give you that answer.
I don't like, there's no reason for me to not
tell you. And I don't see like I don't see
you challenging me as in supportination. She sees it as
she sees it as investments. She sees it as a
buy in. When you have people challenging what's going on,

(01:18:44):
it's like that's a great thing. Because when kids go
silent and just follow along, it's like, well, are they
actually into this or they just doing it because that's
what they do. Not only she wants people's personality.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Not only is coach making me better, We're making coach better.
It should be like a mutuals the collaboration.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I think a lot of coaches forget that. And you know,
I think John Cook coming from the older generation, like
you know, maybe they saw questioning and challenging as in subordination.
And I will say there is a trend in our
generation going into the workforce where I was actually listening
to this podcast of nice an officer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Yeah, all of you guys missed it. I don't know
how much of it we got on the actual recording
when we started, but ten minute ran about we have
huge talk about podcasts and who we listened to and
why we listened to him. It's great. I got checked
the battery, but keep on going.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Yeah, and this officer was breaking down how one of
his young bucks was just pressing him and pressing, and
there was one decision that he made while in the
field that he got called into and the officer just
described him as unapologetic. I can't remember the specific details,
but he was answering his questions with straight eye contact.

(01:19:55):
You could just tell like this young dude was not phased.
And so the officer asked him, goes, uh, let's say, soldier,
are you afraid of me? And he goes no, but
I respect you. And he loved it, and I think
that was the first time I'd see somebody compliment our generation.
It's like, we are a generation that challenges and questions.
If we don't understand, we're not doing that bs, because

(01:20:17):
you know we have we got the world in our hands.
We can go research, we can record it, we can
take your whole life down, buddy. So if I'm gonna
fight for you and I'm gonna put my life on
the line, or if I'm going to buy into this program,
like what are you about and what are you gonna
do with my time?

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
As we gain more access to information, it's way easier
to challenge why anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Education people do not understand knowledge is power as it's liberating.
I mean, you could even think about the people who
just hate the government. They don't they're not even a
part of you. They're just independent and they're like, I'm
just not going to listen, and they get thrown in
prison because they're like, well, screw this, I'm not paying
my taxes. Like the second you're aware of the actual

(01:20:58):
power of free will, like at the end of the day,
you can actually do whatever the hell you want. Correct,
there's just consequences, and depending on what environment you're in, correct,
and so it's like you don't have to comply, you're
only complying because you believe the consequence actually sucks. Is
there a people that pay the time and they freaking
do the same shit again because like the consequence isn't
that big of a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
One of the best examples I can think of that
is Muhammad Ali at the prime, the peak of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Most people don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
I mean, when he refused to serve in the Vietnam
War because he ain't got no quarrel with them, He's
got no quarrel with him. He said, I'm not going
to fight in the war. That you guys made So
he went to jail for three years during his prime,
or did he I don't know if he did. He
end up going to prison. I feel like he either
I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Like that would be due time, especially in the time
of year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I feel like he did time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Either that or he was certainly he had his heavyweight
title stripped and that was when he was about like
twenty five years old.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
From the ages of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Twenty five to twenty eight, Muhammad Ali did not fight
a single match and he came back and kicked ass
and took the title back.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yeah, that's and that's one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Best examples that I can think of someone just having.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Freaking I was actually getting into it. So I have
an Army recruiter and we're actually good friends now, and
he was breaking down how like I was just running
through the wars and I was just breaking it down
because again I'm looking at the armed forces, right, And
he did a short spiel in Vietnam Vietnam, and it
just like from what I learned Vietnam, just talking about
it makes me freaking mad. Just the entire thing, everything

(01:22:29):
about Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
The concept is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
We should have never been there. Yeah, it was absolutely, Butcher, Yeah,
we got we got our ship ran as they say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, that's as they say. In that pocket, it says
Muhammad Lee was arrested in nineteen sixty seven and then
was sentenced to five years. We find ten thousand dollars,
which at that point in time a lot lott of money. Whoa,
and then banned from boxing and was stripped of his
boxing license and his heavyweight title. But then in nineteen

(01:23:02):
seventy one, the Supreme Court overturned it because he refused
due to like religious beliefs.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
And then yeah, and then I think he won it
back when he beat Big George.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Forman's like beyond deniable. It's like, all right, I'll pay
my fine, then I'll go win it back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Hell. Yeah, that's almost that's a different kind of man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Yeah, that's almost bad ass goes just take it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I'll get it back.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
That's why he's Hell, I think he's regardless of what
you like. If you're going not, if you're going purely
based on like their accomplishments within the sport, maybe he's not.
But I think that overall, Muhammad Ali is a greatest
athlete of all time just because.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Of what he is outside outside outside the ring, what
he did when he wasn't competing, like he's I guess
it's fair when you look at him outside, but like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
He just he transcended what it means to be to
be an athlete, and the biggest thing was that that
what he did with Vietnam when he just said.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Figure exactly, like I think when you talk about being
an athlete, like I think there's two different ways to
determine like being an athlete, like we continuously talk about
this thing, but like using your fame for like change
once again, Harper Murray, great job at this. I guess
I find it like I don't want to say find
it hard, but like social media does, a really good

(01:24:18):
job can be a double edged sword, like I think
social media for a long time really consumed people's lives
in a way that was like everything has to be perfect.
We've talked about that, we've talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
It's it is what it is, there's no changing it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
But then like as more and more people were like, hey,
like you realize, like I mean, that's not me, Like
there's no way that every day if you think every
day I wake up and I do have this like
perfectly put together life. Yeah, and there's no wrong ever
in it. Like Muhammad Ali, you would have looked at
Mohammad Ali and you would have been like, Wow, this
is the greatest guy ever, Like look at him. He's

(01:24:51):
he's winning, he's you know, heavyweight champion, like all this
great things. And he's like, I'm like, I have the
ability to say no to the government, like you should too,
Like how you want stand on your beliefs, And that's
exactly what he did, is religious beliefs. Told him, hey, like,
don't go fight like that is not your standpoint, like
stand on what you believe?

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Oh god, oh man?

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
What there's a oh god, there's a quote and that's
like that talks about basically being like if you're willing
to bend your beliefs, they're not really beliefs. If you're
willing to give up your morals, they're not morals. Like
it's not really who you are, it's someone you're pretending
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
If you don't strictly abide by it, you're doing myself
an injustice.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I can think of like the way that the quote works,
but I can't think of what it exactly it is now,
which is gonna kill me it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Does a pretty good job. I wouldn't know what the
original quote is, and I thought, I mean, that sounded
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
It sounds like something Ali would say or something. Yeah,
it's something like something and he.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Outside of the ring I just looked up. Encompassing philanthropy, humanitarianism,
and an advocacy for peace and civil rights. He Ali
helps secure the release of fifteen US hostages held in
Iraq during the First Gulf War.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
How the hell did he do that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Medical Aid to Cuba?

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
He just go over and grab him?

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, I guess so. He probably just hopped on the
phone and said, hey, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
We'll punch his way through this terrorists.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Yeah, let's just free the boys. Please, for the boy,
for the boys.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
That's what he had on his boxing art, the Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Medical Aid to Cuba.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
He delivered medical supplies to Cuba, a company facing an embargo.
He undertook goodwill missions to Afghanistan and North Korea, and
was a tireless advocate for people in need, supporting relief
and development initiatives, particularly in Africa and Asia. The UN's
got a whole page about him. So the goat, in
my mind, the goat purely based.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
On Yeah, I'd have to look into it because I've
heard mixed things. I don't know. I before I really
start to praise a political figure or not political, a
public any figure, right, I just you know, you gotta
be careful because it's tied back to you. Because I
think what's really frustrating and what I've learned of being
more public about things is the negative stuff about someone.

(01:26:58):
They always assume you knew about it, right, So you know,
I'm trying to think of an example.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Just anyone, like yeah, really, anybody you vouch for, any
one person that you praise, and then stuff can come
out later like hey this person did this that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
I'm like, Bro, you think I knew that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Correct, Yeah, and still stood by them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
No, of course I didn't know that exactly, Like, oh
my word.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
Do you really think I'm that much of a jerk?

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Yeah, Like any and I feel like you can name
literally just about anyone who had any sort of.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Like you could even go for the president.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Yeah, you could go for anyone you want and just
say like, like, I vouch for this person, but then
it comes out that this person believes that they said
these things in the past that was documented and then
automatically you are tied to that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Person and what they believe, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Not necessarily true. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
It's so it's like the standard that we hold other
people too that we disagree with is crazy. It's like
everyone that we agree with, oh yeah, they're a human being.
Anyone who disagrees with me, they're freaking terrorists. Yeah yeah,
and they want nothing but everyone else around me to hurt.
And I'm like, that's not no, I think, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
No, I agree with it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
I think I think disagreement is always looked at as
like a bad thing, like and it's definitely not like
no one is ever gonna see eye to eye on
every single matter, and not at all. I love watching
like Charlie Kirk, you know, you know, do I know, Charlie?
You know what John Kirk is like. I think the

(01:28:24):
way that he approaches a lot of those interviews is like,
all right, I want to have the conversation with you.
I don't just want to yell. And I think that
is such a good way because like, if you look
at it, like any relationship you have with anybody is
going to be full of conflict. You're no, not never
gonna have a perfect relationship, you and your girlfriend and
your wife, your boyfriend, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Like, I'm good friends with a lot of people who
I my beliefs just don't align with.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
But I still I still love the people. You could
still look at them and you'd be like, hey, like
you know, make maybe I don't believe like I guess.
We talked about this like briefly earlier, like Daniel and
I were not smokers, Like, that's not something that we're
gonna do. Like, hey, if you want to do it,
that's great, that's fine, Like, but like I don't want
to try it. You're not going to pressure me to
try it. We can coexist. I just asked them, I

(01:29:11):
don't smoke either. Yeah, I realized as I said that
it made it sound like police.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Hell, is that a weed? I'm calling the police?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
That fine? But like, like those things were like, but
you have to be willing to have those conversations because
like obviously, when the time comes, like when you go
to get married, like having like how do you want
to raise kids, Like what do you want your house
to look like? The family dynamics, like all of that
has to be a conversation that's had. And if the
only way that you can have that conversation is just
by yelling at each other, You're never you're not going to.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
It's also interesting to me how many people don't have it. Yeah, right,
just it is crazy to me how many people get
married and get in serious relationships and then you just
look at them talk or like like you just hear
them describe their part and I'm like, how did you
guys ever get together?

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Do you really know your partner? Like some people, do you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Even like your partner? I'm like, we are in your
relationship with someone you can't stand.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
I know some people like the way like the best
is when this is again we're going to tie this
back into like the overarching social media theme here, but
a lot of times you see like couples that'd be
posted on Instagram and like they seem so happy, but
then you hear like the behind the scenes and you
hear these people are not Yeah, they're like, they're not
they're not even they're not like each other in the
slightest and they haven't talked about fundamentally what is important

(01:30:33):
to them as human beings and what they want, like
the rest of their lives to look like like my
girlfriend and I we talk about that a lot, Like
we just talk about what our goals are within like
the next few years and way way down the line,
like what we want for ourselves and each other. And
it's crazy how many couples don't talk about that. And
in general, when people's like beliefs or maybe like ideals
goals don't align, disagreement is like it should be encouraged.

(01:30:58):
It's a natural, normal thing where different people coming from
different backgrounds. Disagreement is one thing. However, using that, like
using someone's opposing beliefs to antagonize them, that's when it
becomes a problem. That's when Yeah, right, wait, will you elaborate,
like when you when you use someone's opposing belief like
if you say, this person does not think the way

(01:31:19):
I think, therefore, like they are a bad person or
I need to almost like since they don't align with me,
like I can't associate with them because everyone should think
the way I think. If everyone thought the way that
like one person thinks, then this world would be boring
as hell. It would be dry, there'd be nothing interesting,
nothing going on. Yeah, Like being different from each other

(01:31:42):
is totally normal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
You should be encouraged.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Disagreement is great when it turns into like actual antagonization.
I feel like I could use a word that rolls
off the tongue a little easier, But when it turns
into antagonization, that's when it's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
I think, like antagonization, but then like more like attacking.
I think that's like like villainizing. Yeah, I think that's
like the better point, just like trying to avoid all
of that. Obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
I have a question for you guys. Okay, I go
to it so you you elaborated on how you know
it's great that we're different, r else nothing would go on.
Are there certain things that we shouldn't disagree on?

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
I think a lot of times like just the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
It's hard to like I'm trying to think of how
I want to phrase this in particular.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
But here's here's my deal. I like, I think that
it's great that we have the differences. There are things
that like I I a lot of things. There are
a lot of things that would be nice if we
all just were like, yes, this is how the world
should be, this is how it will be. But I
think continuously we're never going to get to that point

(01:32:49):
because cultures are so insanely different and so like you
look at like a lot of people talk about like
I think, like free health care is kind of one
of those things free access to like food, shelter, water,
basic human rights, like those are the things that like
all people should have access to, and we do a
really good job as it is, like creating that. But

(01:33:11):
the disparity between like someone who is like living on
food stamps living right at that border versus like I mean,
I would say even us, like I would say, like
that is a big there's a big difference between us
and them, and.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Like when you're running out, like when I go on
my runs and I'm going down the street and now
I'll go like under a bridge, and I see like
people like people like people who don't have homes, Like
there's such a big description like difference between even myself
who like I don't have a job, I'm not like
making any money, but like just the way like how
what my family has, like I'm able to live so
much more comfortably than other people. And I think I
like where you're kind of going like talking about that,

(01:33:49):
because I think that a lot of times people who
are homeless are going through really grave struggles like that,
like aren't even looked at as like human beings. I've
had many, Yeah, I've had interactions and moments where like
I'm walking down the street with it could be like
a group of close friends, or like it could be
like people who I only very loosely know, and like

(01:34:12):
someone is homeless on the street and they're like they're
like begging, just asking for any sort of help, and
people won't even like glance in their direction, we won't
even attempt to acknowledge them as like a person, like
at least just say like like like I'm sorry, I
like I can't help you right now, but like I
wish you the best, Like yeah, like that that's that's that's,

(01:34:34):
that's all you have to say. In my humble opinion,
people like don't even acknowledge them. People just like treat
them like literally nothing, like invisible. Just treat them as ghost,
treat them like they're absolutely nothing. And that's I think
everyone needs to treat each other like like just like
just a human being, like treat everyone like treat someone
who is like living on the street, like with the
same decency and respect that you would treat like any like.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Oh, it's the most powerful people I think of goes
back to like what you're todd as like a child
is like that golden rule treat others how you want
to be treated. And I think it's like such like
a concept that people lose, and I think the older
you get, the more you lose it because people almost
feed in a lot of people, I feel like, feed
into this like power dynamic where they're like, well, I'm

(01:35:17):
the boss in my house, I'm the boss at work,
so I should always be treated like a boss, Like
like you should always respect me and be about this
regardless of what I say, you should want to do it.
But then, like I also think about, like I've seen
a lot of it recently where it's like a lot
of people are just like the thing that homeless people
and maybe not necessarily want, but like I've seen a

(01:35:39):
lot on social media where it's like, hey, like the
best thing that you got from this this experience was
the fact that they got to spend a day with
someone who treated them like an equal person that wasn't
like well why, like obviously if you want to have
that conversation of like why are you here, like what happened?
Like what created this situation like let me help you.
But then also at the same time, it's like, so,

(01:36:01):
like what did you do before this, Like what what
was your life?

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Who's important to you? Can I help you in a
way that I can't help you right now? Can I
try and make some phone calls for you? Can I
give you the opportunity to try and get you to
see family or have someone come help you, Like those
moments where it's like, you know that like treating each
other with like common decency that is such a thing
that's lost, Like I feel like I notice it. This

(01:36:24):
is going to sound like such an old head thing
to say, but like please and thank you are like
such a thing that I feel like I've noticed have disappeared.
And as I self find myself guilty of that sometimes
where I'm just like in such a such a way
that is maybe I'm like I'm on the phone with
someone and I choose like someone holds a door for
me and I just walk straight by, like just acknowledging

(01:36:45):
the fact that like, hey, thanks, like that's all that's
all it took, and it is, you know, two seconds
to say it. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
The world's becoming more transactional and it's like it's way easier.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
To just forget about those little things.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Daniel, you never answer my question.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
What about Oh well you were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Are there certain things that we shouldn't disagree on.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
I think that anyone on earth should be able to
like love and be with anyone they want. That's probably
the most firm thing that I stand on, because regardless now, okay,
maybe there's like a select few people who don't necessarily
deserve it, but I would say ninety nine point nine
nine percent of the world's population deserves love. Whether it's

(01:37:28):
from a parent or a partner, or someone they're mentoring.
I don't know, I don't care who it is. Everyone
is deserving of love in some way, and I think
that if anyone goes out of their way to like
try and like interrupt that relationship, whatever kind of relationship
it is. It doesn't necessarily have to be like just

(01:37:50):
friends or like a romantic relationship. But I think that
everyone is worthy of experiencing love in some way, and
to to try and go out of the like to
try and interrupt that in any way, I just think
is fundamentally wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
I think everyone deserves love.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
I agree with what you're saying how everyone deserves love.
Do you think in the way they receive it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Matters, In the way they receive it, the.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Way that it is received and given matters absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
I think sometimes sometimes love and affection can almost be
given out of pity, like as in you could like
see someone and just say like, oh, like look at
this person. They have no one else to go to, like,
I'll do it since no one else will, and that
that's obviously like if they're not getting it from anyone else,
it's valuable to receive affection anywhere, but it matters if

(01:38:40):
you're able to receive it in such a way where
you can tell this person like genuinely cares about me.
They're not just doing it because they don't have to
do it. They're they're showing me love and affection because
like they know who I am at my core, and
they feel that I'm a good person. I'm someone who
like they're they're better for being around me, you know.

(01:39:00):
I think that the way you receive it definitely matters.
I think that if you're gonna get it from if
it's between nothing or getting it from someone who doesn't
authentically love you, then obviously you would just take it
from someone who doesn't authentically love you, and that some
people might disagree. But I think that if you receive
it from someone who genuinely cares about you as like

(01:39:23):
at your core, then I think that's how it should
be received.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
So I think it does matter to a certain extent.
I think it's kind of interesting because I I would
almost argue that I don't think like for some people
it does. Oh man, I'm just gonna say the same
thing I think if you look at it when you
say like receiving love, like I think fake fake love
isn't love, right, Like it's that same idea of like

(01:39:48):
you know, like you know the person, you're not a
huge fan of them, but every single time you see
him you kind of are like, oh my god, like
I miss you, like it's been like I feel like
you see it a lot more with the stereotypes is
a lot more with girls and with guys where you
see where you see this like, oh my god, I've
missed you so much, like how have you been It's
been so long since we've hung out, when in reality,

(01:40:09):
both of the girls are like, there's a reason we
haven't hung out. In this law, I don't like you,
I don't want to hang out with you, but I
have to give this like fake love because that's how
girls are supposed to be when like I don't know,
like for me, like on times, like obviously you've had
a lot of like you have those struggles in your life,
and I know, like when I'm struggling, like one of
those things, that's like real easy for me to like

(01:40:30):
be like reminded of like what I have is to
go see my family. But also only that, but like
they'll like you walk in the door, and who's always
there to see you? My dogs. Yeah, they're always happy.
They love you. They're all over you. They're so excited,
and it's like, oh my god, you've been gone for
eight hours and I have so much to tell you. You're
never gonna believe what happened while you were gone. I
barked at the dog I worked at the other dog,

(01:40:51):
mailman care. I barked at the guy that dropped off
the package, and then I heard a noise in the house,
so I just started barking for fun, Like it seems
like they like so much they want to tell you,
and it's like they're all over you. They won't leave
you alone, like they want you, like their their energy
is so inviting and just like captivating that you. Like
it's almost like there's no way for you to be
sad when like you're doing your dog's freaking out. They're

(01:41:14):
so happy to see you, and it's like, oh my god,
like you're right, like I've missed you, and like the
dog has to some degree has no idea what it's doing,
but the dog is showing you so much love on
that degree that like I don't think it matters where
it comes from. I think it matters if it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
It sounds a little bit weird to say, find someone
who will love you like your dog loves you, But
like I think that is almost in a sense like
what you should do, because they love you unconditionally.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Every time they see you, they're like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Yeah, yepe he's here, she's here, My owner's back, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Yeah. I want to challenge you, like with the point
you said about like it doesn't matter where it comes
from as long as it's real, Like it you don't
think that plays into how like the authenticity of it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
I think for like certain aspects, like I think a
lot of like authenticity comes from like the way that
you surround yourself like it's like for like the group
of guys like you can love like I think the
idea of loving something and loving the idea of something
very different things. And I think that comes like a
lot of people get that confused where like like like

(01:42:21):
you could be like man like.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
I think like a big one, A big one you
get is like like, oh, man, like I would love
to be, you know, like a pro athlete. Well, I
think you would love the idea of being a pro athlete.
I think everybody like, if that's not what your passion is,
it's not where you lie. Like a lot of people
would love to be a millionaire because it would make

(01:42:46):
all their lives so much easier. But you create like
the but then like you're only looking at the benefits there,
You're not looking at any of the negatives.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
Where you're a multimillionaire, work never stops, like yeah, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
Always and but I also think like, like, you know,
I am lucky enough to have a family that loves
me and and things like that. But if I didn't,
I know that the group that I've created and surrounded
myself with Daniel our other friends, like I know, like
to me, like that is another family that I've created,
that is a family that loves me and will take

(01:43:17):
care of me, like regardless of what happens, like I
don't have to worry. I know if I'm in a bind,
Like those are people that I could call that would
be like, don't even worry about it, Like I got you,
I you don't need to worry about it, Like that
is one thing that you don't need to stress about.
And So when it comes to authenticity, I think a
lot of it comes from I think it truly comes
from if it's authentic and if it's real, like I

(01:43:38):
would say, like the love that I have for my
friends is real, Like there is not only like trauma,
they're not Trauma's not the right world word, but like
we went through the same things, like the worst time,
best times, the worst of times, we've laughed. We've laughed,
I mean exactly like when when my ex girlfriend and I,
like when our relationship ended, I knew that regardless of

(01:44:01):
what I had, like my friends were gonna be there.
If I didn't want to talk to my family about it,
I knew that I could go to my friends who
were still acting in that family moment and helping me
and getting through these things, and like, I like it's
kind of the same deal that you talked about, Like
those are people that are going to hold you that
higher standard their love. Maybe you know it's gonna be real,

(01:44:22):
it's gonna be strong, and I know that, Like I've
never had to sit there and be like, man, like,
is what they're doing real love? Like are they showing
me real love? Or is it fake? Like are they
just doing this because they feel they need to? Is
it an obligation? Is yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Is it an obligation? I feel like that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
Like obviously I understand what you're saying when you're like,
well if it's if it's real, is it really authentic?
And and all that sorts. But I think what it
really comes down to is like there's intention and there
is like there's history. I think almost kind of builds
one like I know that like like with like with
with our friends the other night, like we're all we're

(01:45:04):
all getting ready to graduate and we're all kind of
going our own ways. We're expanding back out. If Daniel
moves back home, some of our other friends might move
back home. There was an intent for all of us
to hang out one last time, and we all got together.
We all sat around the bonfire. We all just hung out.
Nothing happened. It was just a good, like clean night.
We all had such a good time. And like I think,

(01:45:25):
like that's like one of those moments where you can
be like, man, like this is this is a moment
that is like real, like recognizing that like the love
is there. Like there's a moment like the ability for
all of us to reconnect and kind of sit there
versus going out and kind of doing our own because
it's easy to text someone or tell someone without meaning it,

(01:45:47):
without showing. Like that's another big thing is actions are
louder than word. It's like what does a person do
versus says, Because it's super easy to text someone and
be like hey man, just want to keep you in
mind that like I love you, bro, like you're like
I love you. I want you to know that versus
like one of those people where the doors show up

(01:46:08):
at your doorstep when you're like hey man, like I'm struggling,
They're like, oh, I've got faith in you, Like you
can do it. Like I have friends that I know
that like, hey, I text them, hey man, like I
need I need you. They're like they're there before they
drop everything. They're they're on their way, they're coming to
help you. And that is love. But like you're always
going to have like the people around you that are like,
hey man, like if you need anything, like text me.

(01:46:30):
But there's there's a difference between those and people that
have like that real love.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
The best friendships or relationships of any kind are like
the people that you can just sit in a room
with and not be talking at all and like be
fully enjoying your time with. I know that's that's kind
of random, not exactly related to what we were just
talking about. But when when you fully like developed that
like relationship with like a friend or a partner or
whatever it may be, when you're like able to you

(01:46:54):
could be out doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
You could be out like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Literally sharing like some of like the world things that
have ever happened to you in your entire life, or
you could literally just be like sitting in a room,
like you could be like watching TV or doom scrolling
and you don't even have to like be talking to
one another to like feel comfortable. Like in a six
and a half, like the drive home in Minnesota, Like
I like to think if I could sit in silence
with someone during that time, Like that's when I know,
like I'm truly comfortable around them, and they're like they.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Don't they don't have to be doing anything.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
There's no like we talk about being intentional, like you
doing something out of like desire versus.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Like you feel obligated to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Like they're sitting around me, there's no we're not like
hanging out or like we're not we're not doing anything together.
There's no task being completed. We're not like enjoying any
one particular event together. We're just together. Like those are
the real friends, those.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Are the homies.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Yeah, I guess just back to my question about being
able to prove the authenticity on where the love originates.
I guess I'm what I'm really asking is, is love
from desperation and loneliness the same as interest and attraction?
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I am, I'm

(01:48:03):
content with who I am, and I'm seeking connection with
you because that you know, it's like I don't need
you to fill a void. Understand I'm saying. I just
I challenge the thing when people say, oh, well, they
love me because it's real. They love me because X
y Z is like, well, is it coming of trying

(01:48:26):
to fill something and replace something? Because at the end
of the day, I don't think that's the same as
wanting to like uphold someone and uplift them versus you're
actually just taking and using them to fill something. So
that's that's where I challenge, like when talking about the
origin of love, because you know, I think defining like

(01:48:47):
what is real love is incredibly important because you have
a lot of people who just fill that void and
it's it's not like an actual connection. It's more of
a replacement for what love is intended to be.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
When when you're like I feel like when when you
love someone out of like when you're talking about like
when it's not coming from a place of desperation, when
it's coming from like I feel a genuine connection to
you and like and I want to like enter enter
a relationship and like make both of our lives better
from being together.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Like I genuinely I'm trying to let me, let me think.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
My brain's load and it's like Internet explore I've been
that I'm lagging behind.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
I just think that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Love from desperation.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
You can very.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
Easily just be like in a relationship just because like
you're bored or you feel like you need to be
in a relation or there's a connection yeah or yeah yeah,
you think there's something there. But like the rose tinted
glasses are on and all the red flags look pink,
all the red flags LOOPINGK. That's one of my favorite
lines from what TV show is that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
I think that's I think that's.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
BoJack Horseman because that's a that's a it's much like this.
It's much like this podcast. It's a it's got its
moments of lightheart in this but then it gets deep.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
But I think that when Joe Rogan Joe rogany is
so true.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
We we we we We've been going on almost two
hours here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
Yeah yeah, the time flies when you're having fun.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
We're we're yeah, I know, this has been really fun
talking to you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
We're giving Rogan a run for his money. But I
absolutely think that, like because us, because no ad break,
no commercial, we're not making money. So now we have
made zero dollars and zero something.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
I have paid off none of my tuition money at
doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
But anyways, when you're when it comes from desperation versus
like a genuine connection. I think that if you're doing
it out of like out of a true love for
the other person, that like nothing could come along and.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Like sweep that up in a way.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Whereas like if you're doing it out of desperation, out
of like a like a general just like I feel
like I need to be in a relationship, then another
like another person could come up along and just like
take you away like you're in a relationship because you
love the person, or you feel like you're in a
relationship because like eh, just something to do.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Or it's like that's the best version of love I'll get.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Yeah, exactly, you put like a cap on it. But
you should never you should never be entering a relationship
with another person until you feel like like I am
wholeheartedly a better person because I am with this person
on yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
And I think that's where my faith comes in, is
like I think as a Christian, I think it's really
hard for me with people who don't have faith because
I understand where my purpose comes from and the piece
it's brought in me because I'm able to walk as
an independent soul and it's like I understand that the
people I'm around there and trusted to me, and that

(01:51:45):
people around me are pursued in the same way that
I am pursued by God. And I also think that's
where it can come and blurring the way that we
define love and connection because it even goes back to
us in a genetic way. And I think it's made
it easier with the whole trend of like love yourself
and love this and love that, and that whole trend

(01:52:09):
somehow got contorted to like expose as much of yourself
on the Internet and almost like leave yourself out on display,
almost like a chopping block maan. And people wonder why
you know, loving yourself, I would argue, is actually almost
like it's a very intimate space where it's like you're

(01:52:29):
actually doing the opposite, like you're reserving yourself, not to
protect yourself from connection. Yeah, but like there are just
certain things, like I said, as a Christian, that are
kept between me and God, and because of that, I'm
able to love others better. But when I was going
out loving in the way that I thought love was
because I was defining love myself, and that was the downfall.

(01:52:50):
I think when we leave up the definition of things
to human beings, this generation dies, So now we're leaving
the next hundred years to define it. That could be
completely different from the way we define versus with me
having an anchor as God, I have something consistent. And
also with like minded people, it's like we understand. And
I could probably pull up really smart way smarter people

(01:53:13):
and theologians that could break this down on a genetic
level of faith. But I just feel like you just
see a big divide, just like I can speak for
the western world of the United States of just like
how we define love and connection and why there is
such a difference because you have people just kind of

(01:53:33):
do what they want and then you have people who
are like anchored by certain things, right, And I don't know,
it just gets frustrating because we're all asking for the
same thing, which is love and connection. But I do
believe that there is one way that we are actually
able to have those needs met.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
I think I feel like when you talk about like
your purpose as as a Christian, like there can certainly
be relationships between like people who like believe one religion
and don't believe a religion. I mean, like I think
that when, like we were talking about earlier, how you
talk with another person and you try and like figure out,
like what do they want with their life?

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Like what are their goals and where like where do
they want to live?

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
That all innately like ties back to purpose and what
motivates like many Christians, Like I'm not saying that not
everyone necessarily believe, like practices it to this certain extent,
but a lot of Christians like they wake up and
like serving God is like the one like that that's

(01:54:34):
what like drives them to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Get up out of bed in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
And I guess I never I never really thought of
how that could like inherently be your purpose because if
you if you don't like if if you and your
partner don't share like the same goals or like feel
the same way about certain things like if hey, like
you want to have, like you want to start a
family at this age, but this person doesn't, Hey, I
want to like travel and do these things by this age,

(01:54:59):
but the this person doesn't. Like that ties back to
your purpose, and if your purposes don't align, then if
your purposes don't align, then like you just cut off
the relationship, like you're done, Like it's just not a match.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
It's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Yeah, and it needs yeah right, And I and I
never really thought about like one of the inherent needs
being like Christianity because like personally, like I'm I'm like,
I'm a Christian, but I'm not to the point where
it's like if I meet someone and truly like love
them and they don't believe that, it's not like I'm
gonna be like, it's not like I'm not going to
like continue that relationship. Some people like definitely feel that way,

(01:55:35):
just like more power to them. Like there are some
things with us that are deal breakers, like you want
someone to have that same purpose as you, like for
some people like having a certain having a certain job
title by this age, living in a certain space, having
this many kids by this age, that's like a deal breaker.
And for others, like having that faith that like rock

(01:55:56):
that you stand on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
That's that's another I never even really I think it's
one of those was like a lot of the things
that I've looked at also being a Christian raised that way.
When when my parents got divorced, that was definitely something
that helped my mom was like in that moment, it
was better for her to have almost like the church
acted like a support, like it was someone to help

(01:56:19):
take care of her, but then also you know, help
with us, but then kind of make sure that everybody
still goes in the right direction. And that was something
that like, you know, I never realized was how much
of a like helpful someone is until like when you're
both looking to the same goal, like when you both
are on the same page, and especially when it comes
to like Christianity and your purpose and all of that,

(01:56:43):
Like if both of you have the same idea that
it's both of you just trying to help get a
better understanding of scripture and everything like that to get
to a point where like obviously overarching goal I think
of everything is kind of I don't say the goal,
but it's you know, follow your purpose, do all of that,
but then at the end of it all, you end

(01:57:04):
up in heaven. Like maybe it's not like the best
way to describe it, but understanding that, like you continue
to do the right things, do as much as you can.
Understanding and having these people help you. It's definitely one
of the things. Like my advisor is very much so
a Christian guy, and that's something that he talks about
where we've had conversations before where he kind of talks

(01:57:28):
about how maybe he's always felt called to guide, but
he can't necessarily always feel like he's doing the right thing.
But one of the things that he knows he's done
faith or done well and is like helping students, like
if he can't have his own kids and kind of

(01:57:48):
go through that process to guide people. He's very active
in his church. He's very active with the students. He's
doing everything in his power to help guide these kids
to make the right directions and you know, lead by example.
I think that's a huge A huge thing is having
parents and role models in your lives that are doing
the best that they can showing and putting on that goal.

(01:58:11):
I think that's a huge way to help boost kind
of that like it's you and someone else against the world.
Like I think that's a way that like you kind
of think about it like it's it's you and I,
but if you find the right person, it literally can
be you, I and God, like in that format where
it's like God is God can help us, but the

(01:58:34):
two of us together can help each other right here,
right now, and then we can look to God for
guidance and help and and and where we feel where
are shortcomings?

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
This is kind of off topic.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Do you believe in soulmates the way that you talk
about like love and if it's real or not? Like
a lot of people say, Okay, yeah, I figured I
think love is real, but I think I think soulmates
is kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:58:59):
A right now to answer your question, no, I don't
believe in solomons. I used to, I think, yeah, I
used to. But do you want to hear? Why go
for it to be binded to someone before you have
laid with them and consecrated that marriage makes no freaking
sense if we believe you guys are you guys are Christians? Yeah,

(01:59:25):
so we understand that when like you are married and
you consecrate that marriage, your soul becomes one. How the
hell does that happen if we believe and trust that teaching.
You don't even have to be Catholic to understand that
that's it? How does that even make sense to happen?
Because then it would be like, well, then what's the
purpose of us getting married? What would be the purpose
of us ever having sex to consecrate the marriage? That

(01:59:47):
stuff used to go back to monarchs of the the
queen ship wouldn't be legitimate until the king would lay
with her, like they had to consecrate them. They had
to consecrate that marriage. And so I just don't understand it.
And also think of how many people just don't for example,
like domestic violence, Like you've got people that should just

(02:00:08):
not be in relationships. And I refuse to believe that
that person as a soulmate. I think they have a
lot of healing they need to do, and in proper
timing and proper pursuit and proper prayer, will they be
guided to pursue someone. There's a lot of gentlemen in
the Newman Center. They're interested in a girl, but they
pray about her. They pray about that and ask the Lord,
am I supposed to pursue her? Because I think it

(02:00:29):
comes down to commitment and timing. I think for us
to be binded to someone without any choice, that's not
free will, and that would also go against what God
gave to us, which is free will. So I don't
even think it's Christian at all.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I see, I find it hard to believe in soulmates
as well. Yeah, considering the fact that like like you said,
souls become one. But then also like the opportunity of
which your soulmate you could never cross that path with,
like if because that's kind of like, isn't that kind
of like the whole deal, Like when people talk about
soulmates is like when you find them one, like you

(02:01:04):
guys like end up crossing paths and then there's like
that feeling and like you know that like your souls
have connected. But it's like you're telling me that like
I'm over here in the United States if I never
leave the United States, that someone in Canada, Mexico.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
Yeah, it just like it just doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
Practical. And I also feel like just to back to
the free will piece. What's the name of your girlfriend
again again? Yeah, Jenna, So it's like you chose her
and you are committed to her. To me, there's nothing
more romantic than to be chosen every single day. Yeah,
But if you're just like, well, I'm here because I'm
tied to you, that's not romantic. No. So then you

(02:01:43):
you take away the logical piece and you just think
of the desirable piece of soulmates. There's nothing attractive to
someone because even then say we are soulmates and my
soulmate pursues me. I'm not attracted to the fact that
he's my soulmate. I'm attracted to the fact that he
pursues me and vice versa. So, like, how exciting is
I mean, someone wakes up every day because think about it,

(02:02:03):
people do that all the time. They cheat. That's not
them choosing you, but a marriage. What makes a marriage
so specific is you agree every day, in every second
of your life, to choose your wife and vice versa.
That's powerful. That's what makes a marriage so freaking hard
is because the attractions, the temptations doesn't go away. But
what solidifies you is that freaking ring on your finger

(02:02:24):
and that promise and value me to her.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
Relationships are a grind.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
I feel like that's like a lot of people don't
really understand like how much actually goes into it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:33):
But always, well I hear is that it's work.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
It's putting in work, like like when you when you're
when you like like you were just talking about, when
you when you wake up one day and consistently choose
this person over like anyone else, any other person on
earth that you can be with, and you choose them,
and it's it's not like you you can't just like
find your girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever it is. You can't find
your partner and then just like let that relationship like

(02:02:56):
sit to the side. You can't just say all right,
we got it and set it to the side.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
Next.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
No, it's you got to water your garden and you
got to like put in time with that person otherwise,
like they're that's why a lot of relationships fails.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
People stop putting it out.

Speaker 4 (02:03:09):
They don't realize how much work. I mean, think about
your friendships, Like yeah, because I couldn't imagine treating my boyfriend.
I don't have one. But I'm just saying like if
I don't have it, but I don't have one, just
for the voice put in for the boys, just for perspective,
Like if I had a boyfriend, I would never treat
them like some of my girlfriends because me and my

(02:03:30):
girlfriend's like I'll text her once a week, maybe call
her every my partner that let's say we're engaged. No,
like there's just a whole other level.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
Like they're hearing about every detail of my day, Like
I gotta talk with them consistently.

Speaker 4 (02:03:44):
And then you think about marriage that not to our
visible eye, but like we went before God and vowed
each other. That means that we went before God and
be like, I will love her and honor her. I
will love him and honor him with everything that I do,
and I will make sure that they get to heaven. Right,
you went before God? Because again our eyes, our eyes
can't comprehend that. But you went before all of heaven.

(02:04:05):
Again in the Catholic you went before all the saints,
you went before all the angels, You went before God
himself and vowed this person. That's gonna take. So even
if your eyes can't obviously see that, that's gonna take
some type of physical change. There's gonna have to be
a physical change in the way you talk to her
and she talks to you. That's gonna have to be

(02:04:26):
a physical change. And like there's there's definitely gonna there
has to be a change. That doesn't make any sense.
How can you go before all of heaven and vow
to this person and you just treat them like one
of the homemianes yea, And people are out here wonder
were like, I don't know why she left? Do you
mean you know why she left?

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
I think five thousand reasons why she left.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
Oh my god, it's just like there's there's a change, man.
And I think if honestly, like I can just speak
to the Christians because we're all on the same team here,
Like there's got to be a change, especially when you
just decide to pursue a woman, like you're gonna have
to answer to her guardian angel when you die. Yeah,
Like I think just living with that image that you
went before all of heaven like fires me up and

(02:05:05):
like I know what I'm going. I'm saving myself for marriage.
I know exactly what I want, just because of the
way that, like I started to fall in love with Jesus,
because then you stop treating him like a story. He's
going to change your freaking.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Life, like someone to guide you.

Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
Oh my gosh, guys, what does he say to Peter
whenever he's resurrected? When Peter so you know, how like
Peter betrayed him and was like, I don't know this man.
I don't know this man. I don't know this man.
And my priest broke it down beautifully. How when Jesus
came back, everyone was so excited that Peter literally ran
to him, even though Jesus was going to come onto

(02:05:39):
the shorting moment, but Peter runs to him in the water,
and I couldn't help but wonder like, oh my gosh,
if I was Peter, I'd be crapping my pants because
I literally denied this man three times and him and Peter,
he's back with the wounds, with the wounds to remind
us that it didn't just happen, like it's not just
dead and done like it happened, and all that Jesus

(02:06:01):
asked him, when basically Peter's freaking out like oh gosh,
am mind, deep shit, like this is bad. All Jesus
asked him is do you love me? Do you love me?
Do you love me? When we start to love Jesus
in the way that you love your girlfriend, the way
that you love your mom. Guys, I'm telling you right now,
there's a fundamental change in the way that you the
way you view people, the way you view life when

(02:06:23):
you stop treating him as like a drill sergeant or
a bank when you treat him as someone you love.
I can't explain you the changes that have happened in
my life because of it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
I think a lot of a lot of it's like
you stop looking at things transactionally, Like that's a that's
a big thing Daniel mentioned earlier, like where I feel
like this world has kind of come like very much,
so like what can you do this stuff for me?
I've done it for you, what can you do for me?
And I think there's a point in time in which,
like you know, nothing, nothing in life is ever going

(02:06:59):
to be perfectly even like you're never gonna find that balance,
and like like I look like that's like one of
those things where like I know that like right now,
like I have friendships where one person outweighs the other,
like where like that balance is like you've needed me
more than I've needed you, and I like that's just
the way that it is. But like I know that

(02:07:21):
like come a point in time like I don't need
to hold that, like like that's not something that can hold.
Like if if you feel that you need me, call
me like that that type of moment where it's like
it's less about like what can I get, like because
because like what do I need? What am I getting?
I'm like I'm getting your friendship. Like that's that's where
we're at. Like there's a reason that I've chosen to

(02:07:42):
respond to your text, to answer your call to hang
out with you. Like there's a reason Daniel and I
have started this podcast because it's like one of those
things where it's like, yeah, like we're there, Like it's
it's like I'm there because you want me there, Like
it's not because I am thinking, all right, Well, when
Daniels rich in ten years, when I'm on, I'm gonna

(02:08:06):
be able to go. Hey, Daniel, you got me those
Vikings Lions tickets? Can you get me a pregame pass?
Give me the field pack? Can you help your brother out? Look,
I'm just having some bad luck.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
Just a little dough, just cover the rent, you know,
like that, because he wants to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
Oh my headphoness got. I was like, what is going on?
I can't I can't move my head. All of a sudden,
my headphones are stuck underneath my chair. It's like the cord.
And I was like, what is going This is about
the longest well not just about this is definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:08:34):
It is definitely Where are we at right now? Walk
em only? Where do you upload all of this?

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Spotify?

Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
I Oh my gosh, I love spot I'm on Spotify
what's there? What's the you look up studio.

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
Three one three, Studio three one three podcast? We got
everything there?

Speaker 4 (02:08:52):
Why three one three because that's.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
The number of his room. Three.

Speaker 4 (02:08:56):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Yeah, this is this is everyone that we've recorded.

Speaker 6 (02:09:00):
Yeah, there are five stars. Yeah, yeah, you know, we
got five reviews. If you look through, it's literally fifty
seven minutes. Yeah, they some of them.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Well, we were cutting down for a long time, Like
we had a Mon Green. Yeah. Green was such a
good interview NFL, like not only a hotel, but I
kind of forgot that he had his own podcast. We're
having this conversation.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
I'm like, dude, do you like Parades episode twelve?

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Oh yeah, that was when we got a We got
dash Ol, Oliver and Khreti, a couple of Lincoln Stars guys,
and I said, do you like Praids because they started
their season like.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Eight and one.

Speaker 4 (02:09:32):
Oh, there's your Jacob Brombach interview.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
Yeah yeah, Ram, Bob, I love learns astrology.

Speaker 4 (02:09:39):
When you publish this, I'm going to send this to
Joe Rogan. Guys, here's I want to here's my interview.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
Yeah, here's my audition.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
Let me on the pod.

Speaker 4 (02:09:47):
I'm trying to think of who I know that could
maybe be somewhat in that social circle, and I can't
think of anybody somewhat connected.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
You just get John Cook over there, like John Cook
and I are going to come down, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:09:56):
Yeah, I like Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
Well have you heard of the degrees of separation rule?
Like this?

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Seven degrees?

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
Oh so like seven people away.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
Yeah, that's that's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Do I know? So you just need you just need
to find someone who knows someone.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I think
I know someone.

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
Do you know you know an NFL player, because that'd
probably be your best bet.

Speaker 3 (02:10:17):
I mean, you can you can think of like the
seven degrees for literally anyone, Like it's actually kind of scary.
I can think of trying to think of Donald Trout.
I have a I'm within like a few degrees of him.
My dad knew Jesse Ventura, former w W E wrestler,
who is the Minnesota governor. He's bound to know another
politician who knows Trump. True' that's like three degrees right there,

(02:10:40):
three or four degrees.

Speaker 4 (02:10:41):
He's a w W Now he's a governor.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Well he was, he was a governor back in like
the nineties, and my dad was just good buddies with him.

Speaker 4 (02:10:47):
Because yeah, no, I think once you're in, if you
especially if you reach governor's status, you know somebody he
gotta we just gotta. Oh you know what, though I
do have the connections of some government officials, maybe they
could somehow connect moods.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
You just got to hit him and be like, what
are the chances you can give me? On Joe Rogan's podcast, I.

Speaker 4 (02:11:05):
Don't even want to get on the podcast. I just
want to meet him. And liked you guess on my podcast.
You guess on my podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
I love that. Yeah, you just want to meet the
guy I do.

Speaker 4 (02:11:15):
I just want to meet him in the flesh, Like, bro,
what's up? How is your life?

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
Go out, get a drink, just chill out. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
I recently just had my first moscow well not my first,
but like it was really good. It was Apple coot
tea moscow mule from El Pcero.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
Elprero bang. No no big boss for you with no
big big boss Margarita.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
Oh hell, isn't that like two feet tall? It's you
should be illegally you like split It is a whole
contant split it. I have anybody who every time I've
seen it ordered, I've never seen that person split.

Speaker 3 (02:11:49):
Tuesday afternoon for a guy like that's what happens to
your business made. That's just that's just a little gas
in the tank for.

Speaker 4 (02:11:57):
The tank is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Something something to keep things interesting, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:12:00):
I mean that's just absolutely swerving all over the road.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
Oh yeah, Daniel would never Daniel would walk. He'd probably
start running if you really think about it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
I could never do that, just like right, yeah, the
thought of the oh oh, I'd be running all right,
I'd be moving side to side.

Speaker 1 (02:12:12):
My favorite is one running a circle. I've been.

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
I've been under the influence before, and then I like
start to run from like one place to another, like
going from one like friend's house to another. And when
you're running and you're under the influence, you feel superhuman.
You feel like yeah, I mean like Usain Bolt.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
You get so fast.

Speaker 3 (02:12:29):
Oh yeah, and then you you like really think about
like sometimes I've had it where I'm running and then
I like sit down and take a break out. I
think to myself, like I've gone like half a mile,
but it feels like I've ran a there's so real, Like, seriously,
I've had it before.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
Oh how far was that?

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
Yeah, you can turn around and see where you started, Like, ash,
I've had it where I've I've tried to run from
one party to another like a mile and a half
or two miles apart. And one time I got like
so tired halfway through. I just like laid in this
grass field and called an uber and this poor uber
drive He's probably thinking like he's getting people from the
apartments and driving him to bars, and then he gets

(02:13:05):
us one request from this nowhere field, like why is
this dude calling me from here?

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
And then he probably drove up sees me.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
On the grass and he's like, oh oh am, I like,
is this guy gonna like murder me?

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
Am?

Speaker 1 (02:13:16):
I about to become a statistic.

Speaker 4 (02:13:18):
I think about that so much, about like being a
statistic I'm like, dang it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
I look, how many people have you talked to that
have like straight.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
Up murdered another human being? Do you think you've talked
to anyone?

Speaker 4 (02:13:29):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
He's like, oh, you have to.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
I feel like I feel like you've interacted with like
at least one straight up murdered another human being.

Speaker 4 (02:13:37):
Isn't it like we've walked by like at least six
serial killers in our life or something.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
That wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 4 (02:13:43):
What's the there's a statistic that we will walk by
at least like one or talk to you like. It's
like a pretty narrow stat too.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
I mean I would, I mean I have to believe
it if you think about it, like.

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
A serial killer. Though, a serial killer, I guess what
constitutes you. There's more than three.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
It's like, it's like more than three, and it's like
a repeated pattern. It's like pretty much what it is.
So like if you walk by some guy that, let's say,
for like a lack of a better term, like kidnaps
a woman from a bar like that, but you do
that three times, I mean you would have to think that, like.

Speaker 4 (02:14:20):
It's a trend, Like that's how they do.

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
That's a trend.

Speaker 3 (02:14:22):
Killer is generally defined as someone who murders three or
more people in separate events over a period of time,
with a cooling off period between.

Speaker 4 (02:14:32):
Oh yeah, the cooling off period. You ever watched Dexter No,
I've heard, I've seen edits of it. It looks cool.

Speaker 1 (02:14:39):
I've watched the I watched the first four or five
seasons of Dexter the end up getting pretty repeated, but
he ends up coming to Lincoln, Nebraska. He that's one
of the seasons he's in Lincoln, Nebraska. Was filmed here? No,
I was not.

Speaker 4 (02:14:53):
Yeah, why not even use link? I don't understand that
it was not filmed here, But it was like he basically.

Speaker 3 (02:15:00):
Get everyone out from Hollywood to Lincoln. Also imagine pitching
the crew all right, guys, we're gonna leave the comfort
of your Los Angeles abodes and go to Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (02:15:09):
And Nebraska's gonna stay at the Horn and Horn Husker Hotel.

Speaker 3 (02:15:12):
Yeah, and they're probably like, what everybody, everybody stay scarlet.

Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
Yeah, they're missing out on Ivana Cone. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:18):
Fourne oh, hell, we gotta go for it. Four two
or Ivana Actually it's actually never been to either one.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
Go to Ivana comfort.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
What you've never been to either one?

Speaker 4 (02:15:34):
Ivan Cone is it's thick, it's homemade, and you can
see it made right there.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
That is that is got that like. Well, I will say,
there's an ice cream place next to my house called
Topper Popper. It is delicious, same concept, it's homemade. I
it's like homemade, homemade soft. It's out on seventy center Point.
It's seventieth and hold Ridge.

Speaker 4 (02:15:55):
Oh no, no, no, you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
Thinks zesto thang right on, Like so that's pretty good.
That's yeah, that's down there.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
I never love that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
That's my place, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:16:05):
It's like your local dairy queen. I think it's you know,
it's just like it's like the Men's I think my opinion, Well,
it's like.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
It feels classic. Yeah, I was gonna say, I go
into like a good ice cream spot.

Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
I feel like if my cone was in his estas,
that would be a gold mine.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
Oh, they would do crazy numbers. Yeah, well Essa's cash only.

Speaker 4 (02:16:26):
You know what, I just realized this is such a
random memory, But you remember when that tornado came through
like four or five years ago and it took out Justice.
It took out just that little ice cream.

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
I mean, I want to remember that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:38):
I do know what you're talking about was an ice
cream shop, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
Like, damn, I don't know. I do know what it
was in like.

Speaker 4 (02:16:45):
A giant lot of trees, so it's like it could
have with stood it. But because of the way the
tornado dropped and came through, it took out just like
the news reporters like there's no casualties er injuries. Unfortunately
So and So's ice cream shop did not make it.
That is just completely gone.

Speaker 3 (02:17:02):
Yeah, the fuck that one ice cream shop in particular,
Like fuck them.

Speaker 2 (02:17:05):
I like someone had it out for him.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
This is calm. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:17:09):
But the come around it completely picked off, like I'm
taking like a cumhow I feel so bad. I'm like, oh,
you know, some really kids is gonna be so freaking
sad in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
That's so terrible.

Speaker 3 (02:17:22):
What at least destroy like a few buildings around it
so it doesn't feel targeted, Like damn my job to
go after me in particular.

Speaker 4 (02:17:30):
Do you guys get much into conspiracy theories? I would
love to come back and break down conspiracy theories with you. Yeah,
you guys are probably gonna be.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Gone, yes and no, I mean I'm staying here, Daniel
be gone, but I'll make my visits back the one
the have you so you know, oh god, I can't
think what is called that. I got to look up
exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:17:49):
Do you think JFK had multiple shooters? Do you think
it was Lee Harvey, Like, was it a CIA cover up?

Speaker 4 (02:17:55):
Oh, if you're talking about like like was it like
a true terror attempt or not terrorists, but like assassination yeah,
like or if it was an inside job, Yeah, that's
where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Definitely inside job. Definitely are you.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Kidding the stuff that he was starting to cause in
the country.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
It's also it's just genuinely like, I I'm not I've there,
aren't Like it's not like I hear a conspiracy theory
and just automatically thing, no, that's bs. But I but
I don't give I don't give a lot of them
credibility without actually here and some crazy stuff. And it's
very surprising to me that Lee Harvey Oswald like he

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he had so much history with the Soviet Union and
his ties there. And there were over twenty thousand windows
that were like like because he shot Oswald shot uh,
he shot JFK out of the window of the Texas
school Book Depository through a window, And there were over

(02:18:54):
twenty thousand windows like on the route just in the buildings,
and the government inspected none of them. None, They didn't know,
they didn't look into it at all. And JFK or
not jf Lee Harvey Oswald. This wasn't his first. He
had another attempted assassination before JFK. People don't realize that
I think he I that's crazy. They didn't search that.

(02:19:15):
I believe Lee Harvey Oswald had.

Speaker 4 (02:19:17):
Why the hell do you not search a building like that,
that is that vulnerable to the president?

Speaker 1 (02:19:20):
I know, it's kind of shocking to me that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:22):
I don't believe. That's lazy.

Speaker 3 (02:19:23):
And not only that, uh, not only that building, but
just any of them.

Speaker 4 (02:19:29):
I know, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:19:30):
Have you what are your thoughts on the marthin Uther
King Junior? You think.

Speaker 4 (02:19:37):
He was a threat to the CIA? He was such
a threat to kidding he was doing everything right, bro.
He was causing people to like, oh god, what did
someone just tell me? Basically like a lot of how
they were revolting against the police. It was like do
not fight back so and such. It's like, I gotta
remember what someone told me. But someone told me that

(02:19:57):
he was a threat to the CIA, and I got
to I can't remember why.

Speaker 3 (02:20:00):
Lee Harvey Oswald is known to have made an assassination
attempt on General Edwin Walker before the assassination of President Kennedy.
This attempt occurred on April tenth, nineteen sixty three, in Dallas, Texas.
Oswald fired at Walker from a distance, but the bullet
narrowly missed his target. So Oswald did this in the
same city where JFK was killed in the same year.

(02:20:23):
This was April tenth, so JFK was shot on November
twenty second, nineteen six.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
If you want to watch a really sixo on MKA
on MK, yeah, put me on. This guy is YouTube.
It's YouTube, but it's the conspiracy behind mlk's assassination. The
guy that created his name is Wendagon. It's an hour
and five minutes long.

Speaker 4 (02:20:44):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
That's a good one, gets a good length. It's a
perfect lens.

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
Yeah, that first one, that's the one right there.

Speaker 3 (02:20:49):
That's the kind of video you wait till night time
you make, get yourself a snack and like, oh yeah,
that was last night.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
I just started watching American Sniper.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
Oh you know what, I bired me exactly exactly. He is.
He is crazy in the like the way that he
breaks it down. He does such a good job.

Speaker 4 (02:21:09):
Nice, nice breaking it all down. What do you guys
think of the Hawaii fires in MAUI?

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
Like people think that's a conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (02:21:18):
Are you kidding? Did you ever watch a lot of
the coverage of it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
I haven't heard, I haven't heard the details.

Speaker 4 (02:21:23):
That's part of the problem is there was literally to
no media about it. It was up for like three months.
All the billionaires Oprah and all their estates untouched by
the fire touched Hawaii. That specific area of Maui has
the largest alarm system regarding fires. Not a single one
went off, not a single.

Speaker 2 (02:21:40):
The whole time.

Speaker 1 (02:21:41):
It was months, almost like they were shut off intentionally.

Speaker 4 (02:21:43):
We have a monthly, a monthly tornado practice siren go off,
and you're telling me you have one of the largest
fires for Hawaii to ever see, not a single alarm
goes off. Make that makes sense. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:21:58):
And on top of that, you hear it is an understatement.

Speaker 4 (02:22:02):
And you have the locals coming back to their houses incinerated,
and who's there to meet them. Land buyers, people trying
to give them their business cards, like, Hey, we would
love to talk to you about buying your land. Are
you you want to talk about You want to talk
about love and your family and the land. The Hawaiians
and Islanders are all about that stuff. Mana Mana's like energy.
That's what they believe in out there. You want to

(02:22:23):
talk about being spiritual.

Speaker 1 (02:22:25):
The way they love their land, the way they love.

Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
Their land, the water, their heritage unmatched. And the first
thing you're going to ask them after their house is
absolutely incinerated, is hey, can we talk about maybe lending
your land or buying your land. It was just sickening.
And then you have the government officials for Hawaii being
picked and poked and they have no answers for the
public as to why the alarm system didn't go off.

(02:22:48):
It's just it's so disgusting and it makes me so
mad because it's like, you know, if this happened in
the Midwest, I feel like it'd be a different story.

Speaker 1 (02:22:56):
Well, I gotta put on the tim foil hat and
got it.

Speaker 4 (02:22:59):
There's a whole song about it.

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
A song.

Speaker 4 (02:23:03):
Yeah, there was a person from Hawaii, I can pull
it up. Leahina is his name. That was the area
that was really bad.

Speaker 1 (02:23:12):
I visited.

Speaker 3 (02:23:12):
I visited Lahina like a few years, like I visited
Lihinda like pre pandemic.

Speaker 4 (02:23:17):
Ohanah Jimmy Levy. I cried the first time I heard
it rude. Yeah, it's so sad. You started digging into
all of that, and it's just like sobs man, And
that's the thing that brings me comfort again with being
a Christian. I'm like, you will have to answer for
this someday. And I think that's why a lot of
these people in the higher ups. I think that's why

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they want to be immortal, and like you see them
dabbling and wanting to live forever, is because they don't.

Speaker 1 (02:23:42):
Want to answer.

Speaker 4 (02:23:43):
They don't want to have to answer. I'm like, Babe,
I'm sorry to break it to you, but no one's immortal,
and if you're long enough to live it, I would
not want to be there for that. Holy hell, Yeah,
get me out.

Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
Do you believe in aliens?

Speaker 4 (02:23:55):
No, I don't don't any time about alien or extra celestial.
That's a demon.

Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:24:04):
I'm setting.

Speaker 3 (02:24:06):
I don't know if aliens are like like three feet
tall and green with the big black eyes.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
But I think there's what's his face, Roger from American Dad.

Speaker 3 (02:24:19):
They don't look like Roger from American Dad, but I
think they're out there. And Dan, do you think we
went to the moon then we went to the No.

Speaker 4 (02:24:26):
Not we have now, But the first time absolutely fake.

Speaker 1 (02:24:29):
The first time, no way we were I think.

Speaker 4 (02:24:32):
We've been to the moon by now though we've been
to the moon by I feel like Elon's probably went
for a weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:24:38):
This is what this is. You want to get away
from from from the kids. I don't know if gone
gone for a weekend, just because like that stuff is
so heavily tracked that like someone would have been like.

Speaker 4 (02:24:51):
Would they there are if you're that high up, why
wouldn't people just dismiss it? People have just the USS
liberty mm hmm. When Israel attacked to U S Naval ship, Yeah,
they don't talk about that. They wrote it off. They've
been trying to wait for those vets to die off.
Wash the Candice Owen's interview, it fires me up as
an America.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
Well, I'm just saying absolutely, I'm just saying, if there's
some person that is so dedicated to tracking Taylor Swift's
private jet CO two emissions, like you're telling me that
there's some guy that's not equally as invested.

Speaker 4 (02:25:23):
In Elon Musk, that's fair. That's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (02:25:25):
And and and if you look at it and you're like, oh, well,
they're allegedly launched this test pilot to try this like
new ship, but they're just going to mar or they're
just going to the moon and coming back like someone's gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:25:38):
Be like ya, bullfucking shit.

Speaker 1 (02:25:40):
Bro, you know Musk has taken a weekend trip up there,
like you know it. It's just interesting, but I think
it'd be.

Speaker 3 (02:25:46):
My brother's favorite conspiracy theory is the first moonland and
he says like this, we didn't it just didn't have
like like the interviews after like the astroants got back. Peter,
Like my brother Peter, he likes to say, like if
you look at the astroants, like they they look like
they just saw a ghost like that, almost like they
were told like just sit there and like let someone
answer for you. Almost like someone just said.

Speaker 4 (02:26:04):
Like you do, dude, let me literally pull up a video.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
And there's a video, like my brother says, like the
shadows or something.

Speaker 1 (02:26:11):
Dude, there's some wax stuff going on.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
You want to talk about the moon landing. I'm trying
to find the there's a video and buzz Aldron Neil
Armstrong and Buzz Older they were asked by this random
guy because they somehow got too money conference. And this
is why. When he's in his sixty so like years
after thee this and we're talking, put your hand on

(02:26:36):
a Bible and swear that you landed on the moon.
And he doesn't. Yeah, so I will give him credit.
At least he's a Christian man. So we won't lie
for God, but you for the entire United States of America.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:26:50):
It's such a it's such a hard thing because like,
at the same time we're in this, we're in this
huge arms race with Russia, and we.

Speaker 4 (02:26:56):
Have I can't understand why they did it, but admit
that we weren't there. Okay, friends, I want lunch today.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
I'm gonna be so honest with you. There there's half
of half of a burrito bowl in the back of
my truck that I just threw in there, and I
was like, I'll eat you later. I got this meeting.

Speaker 2 (02:27:14):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
If I can. That's going to be ice cold. I
might go. I might go out and treat myself.

Speaker 4 (02:27:20):
So let me pay for it. What's your venomo? No no, no, no, no, no, please, Daniel,
I insists, just.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
How much how much is a meal swipe worth? What
like ten bucks and.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
What's your venmo I think just yeah, yeah, just at
Daniel dash colon that you don't have.

Speaker 4 (02:27:36):
To im to Daniel like the minus bar, Yeah yeah,
and colon c O.

Speaker 1 (02:27:40):
L O K O l A n D.

Speaker 3 (02:27:43):
That's my that's the best miscuit, my last because when
you say my last name, like it sounds like you're
talking about the thing and yes, but it's k yeah, yeah,
that's what it sounds.

Speaker 1 (02:27:54):
Likeness moved on.

Speaker 3 (02:28:00):
Thank you very much for taking the time to join us.
I don't know how much that's going to be in
there because we talked for many, many hours, but a
fair amount of that's gonna be here.

Speaker 2 (02:28:08):
It was just randomly, randomly one of the one of.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
Our conversations is just like clipped and multiple podcasts. That's
gonna be so good.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
Well, as always, thank you guys for joining us. Becca,
thank you very much for taking the time. I have
like a full blueprint for these episodes that we do,
and we just went straight off script. It's Friday, and
here we do have a little scripty script.

Speaker 1 (02:28:31):
I had it pulled up. I don't know if you
ever saw any of it when I had it on
the coman noticed it. Yeah, it sits there and I
think we asked two shoots, two or three of like
the dozen that DBK DBK was one of the questions
on there, and then like team culture, yeah the other
question and that was that was stuff that naturally really
came up.

Speaker 3 (02:28:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, that kind of just comes up
along the way.

Speaker 1 (02:28:51):
So hey, hey, we're just prepping you for Joe Rogan
when you're in at X in June or July.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
You'll you're now, this is the audition, this is the
trial tapes.

Speaker 1 (02:29:02):
You're ready. Hell yeah, you'll get on an episode.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
This this studio three one three was just.

Speaker 3 (02:29:07):
The stepping stone. But yeah, thank you very much for
taking the time to join us back.

Speaker 1 (02:29:10):
It was an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 3 (02:29:11):
Dylan was always thanks for you know, I'm always here,
my lovely, beautiful co host. He's so intentional with his
time coming in, coming in here all the time, shopping
it up with me. But everyone who's listening, thank you
guys for taking the time to tune in. And we
may not see you again because uh, I mean, Figure
and Dylan are about to graduate. But uh, I like
to think of it as a we're just we're.

Speaker 2 (02:29:32):
Just going to screen record our face times and that's
what you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
Again, that's a goodie. Get ready for that.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
But thank you guys for listening to all these episodes,
including this one. You guys, have yourself a lovely morning, afternoon,
or nights.

Speaker 5 (02:29:45):
Take care.

Speaker 4 (02:30:00):
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