Guess Who's Back

Luds is back and brings John Rhadigan and Kevin Mench along to kick things back off with a dive Deep into baseball, scandals, and the sports landscape! Join them as they tackle a plethora of sports topics, from baseball's World Series to the changing rules and influence of money in sports.

They don't shy away from hot-button issues like weather's impact on teams, nostalgia in fandom, and the growing presence of gambling. The recent Shohei Ohtani scandal gets a spotlight, raising questions about the influence of gambling on players.

But it's not just scandal talk—they also delve into the Dallas Stars' performance, the NHL playoffs, announcers' roles, and the state of the Dallas Cowboys. It's a rollercoaster ride of insights, debates, and sports passion from seasoned athletes and enthusiasts!
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Episode Transcript

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Hey, welcome back. We've gotthe band back together, well half of
the band. Nate's not here,Derek's not here. We got Craig Ludwig,
we got Kevin Mench, John RadiganSuDS with Luds. We do that
sometimes we do. Then she's gothis podcast, Derek Harper has a podcast,
Nate Newton has a podcast, andwe are all under the playmaker's umbrella.

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Now today we're at the Bond Shop, which is a brand new restaurant
in Irving. They have great Asianfood, everything from the Bond Me sandwiches
to pad tie to fried rice.You got to get out here, try
the Bond Shop because it's also gotthis great big bar right in the middle.
So this ain't no payway, Thisain't no you know what's the Panda

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Express right? This is a placeto come sit. Well. Sponsor yes,
sorry watching I don't think they're goingto sponsor us. Now. Watch
a game, big, huge streamTV. So anyway, that's what we're
doing, and we're glad you're herechecking us out. Kevin Minsch happens to
be here as the baseball season opens. Craig Ludwig happens to be here as

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we wind down the Stars season.So there's a lot to talk about Menshi.
Yep, opening that we got Whathow much time you got? Of
course he's on a tight schedule.You got about twenty eight minutes so first
pitch? Oh really? Yeah,okay, thirty five start? I think?
Okay, So how much time dowe have with you? About that
much? About that much? TheBrewers on? Don't we get the Brewers
game on? We may be ableto Yeah, you like the Brewers?

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Huh yeah? Your memory? Well, first of all, Menshi, memories
of the World Series for you?I know you don't watch baseball. Now,
did you watch the postse? Hedoesn't. No, I don't watch
base at all. I equate itwhen people ask me I to does a
police officer go home and watch cops? Do you go home and watch hockey
games for a second? Are younot working and doing some television telecast days.

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No, we've we've actually we've we'vetried to get him into it,
and he says, I got towatch the game, where like you kind
of watch the game. I don'twant to do it. Probably they're going
he doesn't a doctor doesn't go homeand watch er? Do they? I
mean, think about it. Ithought you they would have no professional I
mean we can. I can talkabout it for hours, but just sitting
there, what the one game Idid? Is it boring for you to
watch it? He did? Hedid one one right coming out of the

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All Star break, first game,two hour rain delay. It was a
two to one game with about fivehits. I was ready to shoot myself.
And I'm sitting there. Uh hada very good advocate for the sport
right now. No, I'm becauseI'm sitting and it's just you're one of
those because we're creature, right,Baseball players are creatures. Don't have it?
We have? You have that muchtime off and here we are and
we're sitting there and it was twoo'clock in the morning. We're sitting here
talking about baseball, like, oh, this was fun. Five hits,

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But what do you talk about?It's it. I can talk for hours.
I could try to talk hockey,football, basketball right where sweet sixteen,
My targets are playing the night ata great time. So did the
rule changes as far as pitch timeand things help out at all? No?
Not, It doesn't change any minutes. And I don't think and even

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doctors will tell you what they're tryingto do. You're rushing guys to get
through it. Oh, I getthrough different kinds of it. I mean,
we have bases that are the sizeof a pizza box. When are
we going to go the double basslike they're having softball first base right,
so you don't touch them? Yeah, I mean what are we doing?
Yeah? This is the purity ofthe game. What if they took to
hockey puck and made it bigger,or they made the boards like a like
a wrestling ring. I mean,you're trying to bring in fans that really

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don't care about the sport, thepurest World Baseball Classic for instance, games,
the semi final final games, gamesare three and a half hours.
Was anybody complaining about it? No? No, why because you're glued to
your TV? Wait? Now dothe fans like it though? Because they're
no good? The numb the puis. Don't you know the ones that are
then you pick up off the sideof the street. They're the ones that

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are Oh okay, but you goto a Ranger game just for instance,
Hey, let's let's go get somethingneat we come back. Oh man,
we just missed three innings, soI just paid three hundred dollars to miss
three innings of the baseball as opposedto sitting there enjoying it, being able
to come back. Oh, they'restill right, you're still going. You
know, you have long innings.You know, that's just that's just the
way the game is. But Ijust I just think the way the game

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is going. I mean, wehave robot umpires in trip play baseball.
Now, at what point are yougoing to be able to sit at Yeah?
Yeah robots. Oh yeah, soif you don't like a strike or
something, they can tap their helmetor something and then they call upstairs and
they go, oh, that wasa strike according to the box. Okay,
you're out. As opposed to walkingyeah, yeahs a video game,
Yes, that's what it's going tocome to. Somebody's gonna be sitting there

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or I guess part of the contract. I will have to play my guy
in the game and then move onand then I don't get hurt, right,
right, No occupational hazards anymore,maybe a little carporal tunnel. Other
than that, now we're not playingthe game as opposed to sweating it out.
Gone to the Are the grinders goneto the like you're era hockey gone

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to the are the guys who goout right, the Bob Proberts will go
out, the ty domies go outand just fight somebody. Yeah, now
so are Will you notice and ourpictures having an issue injury wife because you're
hearing about it. Yes, notmuch yet, but they will. Yeah,
it's just it's it's long. There'snot Yes, there's not enough studies
to show that now. But ifyou go ask them who made I think
but Susier that made the comment aboutit. This is why guys are getting

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hurt. Talk to doctors. I'msure if you sat down with meister and
talk about it and see, theseguys are coming in because of what they're
doing. I talked with Bryce Harperlast year opening day, you know,
he was coming off Tommy John andI said, Bryce, I said,
hey, you know, what areyour thoughts on this pitchcoll He goes,
this is this is this is terrible. Think about the year before NLCS bottom

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of the eighth inning to too right. This was a tie. I think
it was a tie game that downone man on. If you'd be watching,
you'd known them. Yes, Iwas watching, But I can barely
remember last week and you're lucky.I remember this, and I'm asking and
all right, twenty seconds you're notin the box. Okay, you're You're
out. You struck out because youdidn't get in there at the time.
Wise, wait time out here.You've just changed the outcome of a baseball

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game because you're worried about time.Let moments happen. And they talked about
changing and I think for the postseasonwe'll add it. And then when they
start this year, they backed off. They took two seconds off of them
or something, so now it's goingto be faster. And there was something
else I saw in spring training wherethey're an interference play on a guy going
to field. So it would belike you're going to block a shot,

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but you don't kind of get in. You get in the way too soon.
You got to your spot too soon. Oh no, that's a goal
because you blocked it too soon.Guys are going to receive a throw to
second base. As they go down, they put a knee. Now they
call it interference. It's runner safe. But if the ball comes to you,

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you're allowed to be in every caseyou into it's yes, it's yeah,
it's and it's pretty much a judgmentcall in many cases, yes,
right, yesh? Does it affectbeer sales? Does it effect you know
advertised it did so quick? Yes? I don't know about commercials. I
think there's still the revenues wouldn't beaffected by it. Now the clock is

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I think the clock. The commercialsare based on the clock, right,
because between innings there's two and ahalf minutes. Made this shorten that?
I don't I don't know. Idon't think the play and you do this?
How do you know that I didn'tplay with it with this damn clock?
I don't. I don't think theyshort commercial breaks of the game.
Right, But you can't shorten commercialbreaks because that's where the money. So

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you're still there, but I meanyou're getting in less commercials. No,
right, still nine innings, right, you still have a break between every
inning. But the game length isshorter, right, But so so the
percentage of commercials within a game isgreater because it's the same number of commercials
in a shorter game. So toshorten this duration of watching a game,

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that was Baseball's idea. They said, let's shorten the actual playing, so
not the So then wouldn't more peopleput your TV on pause and then fast
forward through the commercials and watch thegame, so you don't have to watch
all. That's fricking heresy. Don'tyou have to watch the commercial way?
I think I've gotten paid all theseyears. You're one got you want to

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pay? They have no commercials?Yeah, pay no commercial during high cool
is like pay the extra four bucks. I can't. I'll never watch your
show life. I don't watch.Well that's what they're doing now everything now
everything you go to pay. Butnow you have to have commercials unless you
want to pay the extra money.So they're right. It's just like you
go to buy a ticket when wewere growing up, thirty five dollars ticket.

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Now you have to pay thirty fivedollars, ten dollars processing fee,
five dollars handley fee, ten dollarscity surcharge. Suddenly it's a ninety dollar
ticket. Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, I know. And that's the
problem. There's nothing it's it's justlike you know, nothing is ever set
in stunt and there's all like yousaid, there's these umpires have a little
bit of lee by what they're doing. It's just like anything else, right,

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scalping tickets. You can't go scalpa ticket anymore. I go to
a game. I went to theWorld Series that was here, right,
I did with no in twenty twentyCOVID, which is first time since nineteen
forty four no World Series in aneutral site. What do you what was
your this thing as a kid goingto hockey nostalgia? Right? Coming home
from a game, you wanted aticket right of a game? You went

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the stuff? Yes, yeah,on your phone. There's no stuff anymore?
Yeah no, So what are yousupposed to The memory you have is
just up here as opposed to collectingthings, right, I'm thinking. I
mean I found my Transformer's thermos fromnineteen eighty four from Hasbro. I mean
they don't make him anymore. Yeah, you want nostalgia? Where about our
sports are about nostalgia? There's nomore to me. You had to get

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a shirt made up for Bench's podcastwhere it's got to him sitting on his
lawn with the logo get off,my get off. You're just a grumpy
old man. You got soap boss. Yeah, so let's get back to
the World Series though for just aminute. I mean, as a former
player, how did it hit you? What? What were you feeling when

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they won? The World Series.I was feeling for those fans that have
been here since seventy two, theones that you run into that are that
are there from you know, frombeginning to the end, right through fifty
was it fifty two years? Isthat what it was? Fifty two here?
And of course six oh yea.So those fans that had dealt with

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that, that had all that painand everything else, those are the fans
you feel for, right The onesthat have been through it, that have
been with the teams that were bad, the teams that were good. That
those are the fans that you feelfor because it's the UPHOORI. I mean,
you hear stories about families. Youknow, my dad got to see
this before he passed away, youknow, and being a part of or
he didn't, but we're able to, you know, to take that and

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see that memory and see the fansand how the jubilation of what they having.
Last week I was saying about beinga waxahachi at the McDonald's and these
fans are I mean, this isyou know, that's that's not something that
happens all the time. You're achance to see it especially, I mean,
it's it's amazing for them for theorganization. You know, people are
going, are you gonna go this? I go. I didn't win any

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World series that the organization. Didyou know the people that had been that
worked at the front office statue?Did you play with any of the players
are you Are you friends with anybody? I mean have you No? No?
I mean some of the coaches,you know, Matt, you know,
mad Dog and Beasley and those guysthat are still there, Fraser still
there as far you know, theclub some of the clubhouse guys that are

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there that have been there, thoseguys you know that from behind the scenes,
guys that have done it. Andit's for the for the city of
Arlington, you know, for everythingthat they you know, remember the big
thing was when you know there waswhere's where's Arlington? That I thought they
were, you know, and herewe are in this team with with what
they've been through, right, theodds last year to do it were they

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didn't, especially last week of thescenes exactly they might not have made the
playoffs exactly what they want. Howmany how many years did you play for
the Rangers? Six in your sixyears, did they do in your mind
the things to allow you guys towin a championship like they it seemed like
they did for this current team andthe move what was what whether they say

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when we were here pitching, nobodywanted to come here and pitch. Nobody
wanted to pitch here, and itwas a bad era. What were those
six? Remind me of the exactsix? Two to six? Why do
you say nobody wanted to pitch,Well, because it's too hot, too
old? He Well, again youcan get the Jacob de Gram's and the
Max sus just to agree. Now, yeah, because we have an air

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conditioned ballpark. That's how they gotthat great pitching last offseason and then at
the trade deadline, but you couldn't. Nobody wanted to come here and pitch.
And and you know the players ingeneral, the heater hitters especially would
try to use it to their advantage. But you know it wasn't an advantage.
No, You're used to the heat, and that's the thing, so
you were always battling with you thinkabout you know, it's just just into

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baseball. For instance, most ofthe teams that have success in the postseason
are where located where up north?Yeah, where it's cooler, right,
They play in about the Marlins.Don't they like win every other year?
They had no, No, theywere one of those where they went out
and they spent the month two yearsa payroll, that's here, then all
of a sudden, that's here.Yes, for two years ninety seven and

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three three oh three words where theyjust sports kind of just they went after
it and they got and they right, you gambled, they want it.
So I mean it's but most ofthe teams you'll get are the ones that
are up that are up north,because I think one, because of the
weather, they're able to do that. And I think last year with the
new ballpark being able to what's thewhat's the brewers excuse? Then that's a
great question. Yeah, maybe it'stoo cold there. There is too cold,

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but there is no there is nothe only heat in Milwau so it
couldn't be. But it's right,Yankees, Red Sox, you know,
Phillies, Dodgers, and they're notup north. But the weather. But
the weather, But that's what Imean. So it's I think a lot
of it has to play in It'snot in the atmosphere too. I mean,
fans think about think about growing upin Wisconsin, fan base for the
Packers, right for for the Brewers, were they there? Were they there?

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Regardless? And that's what I mean, it's it's all thinking about it
is in Texas sporting wise, whatis it? It's a is it a?
Is it something to do? Right? It was? You know,
there were people who called the ballparkin Arlington the picnic grounds in Arlington,
right because you went there and youhad a great time. It was a
beautiful place, but you weren't thereto watch a baseball game, right,
you know. Because and then theydid, I mean, to their credit,

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they did a lot of things rightin the late nineties. I was
still around then, and they weredoing a lot of things right, you
know, making trades at the tradedeadline, doing the things that took made
the playoffs three out of the lastfour years in the nineties. But just
run into a buzz salt teams.Yeah, Yankees every year with but with
development throughout their organization they came through. I mean, all those guys really
came up together. And the salarycap no yeh, my gosh, there's

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a threat with a luxury tax theyhave, ye And that's kind of what
the Yankees did year after year.Right. Yeah, Well, now what
I think what I think originally whatit was, so if they went over
the threshold, they had to paytheir luxury tax to the least spending team.
But then we had heard rumblings thatso I think it was Montreal at
times. So if the Yankees neededto pay one hundred million, it was

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going to Montreal. But they weren'tgoing out and signing free agency. They
were basically pocketing money. But ithadn't been hockey too right, They were
tried it that few years. Iremember Kim y Onsen in Philly. They
were the luxury tax had to goto I think Minnesota. They didn't have
the money to sign them, butMinnesota got their money, so they went
and signed them. But you're supposedto spread it around the teams that don't
make enough, right, Yeah,that's what they were doing that They do

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that now more it distributed more evenly. So then the Rangers will pay some
long not not a huge amount,but they if there's if their roster stays
the same this year, they'll paysome luxury. Was the Rangers payroll anywhere
near No, it was usually onlyit was only usually two or three teams.
Yeah, La, well, itusually definitely Red Sox and maybe the

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Dodgers, and so they go out. Yeah. So yeah, usually they
basically didn't go out and buy achance. They know. The Rangers,
Yeah they did this time, thoughthey did last time. Yeah. No,
last year they were this close toI thought when they signed, but
the Mets ended up picking up abig part of his salary. If they
had taken Surezer's whole salary, theywould have gone over the luxury text last

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year, so they were they wereflirting with it, you know, and
you could. But that's the gameyou've got to play now in any sport,
right, It's just that's just theway it is. It's but I
think it does in any sport theparody. Now, you've got teams that
are that are competitive, right thatyou know, like Minnesota for instance.
I mean their wins they win thedivision last year in the Central yet their

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wins put them maybe third or fourthin any other division. So so you
have teams that play, okay,right, what are the playoffs about?
Just get in right, you're there. Everybody's got a chance, exactly,
And I think you can tell,especially I think Minnesota at the end of
the year of knowing that okay,we're not going to catch that one seed
or two seeds. Let's rest theseguys, let's get in. But it

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doesn't always work out for them andand the thing, but it does add
throughout the league and any I thinkin any sport. You see it.
Now there's a lot more parody.But now, but what else is popping
up? Now you've got leagues performingover Europe where teams are coming basketball,
right, yep, that I don'tknow I heard that right, but that
the Saudi League offered Jane Harden likenine hundred million dollars to play for a

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year or something. Stupid. Yeah, I mean like they're doing in golf,
were basically doing. Yeah, wellbaseball, they've got a basketball like
in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, butthe golf thing is that kind of like
the golf thing, they stole basicallyour best players, right, not all
of them? Oh that is whatis that? It's caused the riff between
guys that yeah, we're buddies,but you went over there because you were
looking at the money and everything else, and now of a sudden, you

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know you're an ass. I don'tlike you because here's a good segue for
him. Yeah, Well, Tani. Yeah, a seven hundred million.
Yeah, and he's trainer or istranslator. I think he's a trainer translator
bookie, bookie yeah yeah, no, uh so how are you getting out
of that at all? Yeah?I have no idea. The word is

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that the translators for the Japanese player, like the Japanese player that needs a
translator, right, he don't wantto He didn't want to mess with any
Americans, you know, So nobanking, no nothing, translator does it
all. And that's kind of beenthe way it goes with these banking Yes,
So that's why people are freaked out. How could four point five million

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be you know? Missing? Reality? Is all the money sho hee Otani
has made. That's like a tipat the ball might pocket change, but
you know, and he didn't takeit all at once. I mean,
as you know, five hundred thousandhere whatever or whatever they're I don't know
how much it took, but butthe point he might have taken more than
four points. So you actually believedthat story. I believe that that's a
possibility because that's the way it worksright now to show Hey, I don't

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know, show hey knew. Imean maybe you know, maybe new I
mean, think about this, luds. What the media only telling us about
twenty percent of what goes on?Right, that's what we hear enough to
keep you peak. But well,if I'm your translator, neither one of
us to speak English, so wecould I could have it work. Yeah,
if I'm your translator. Before Imake of that, if that's what

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happened, would I not ask you, Hey, so and so's pitching and
night, what do you think Ishould go? Now? Doesn't that make
does that not make him guilty?Is this not a Pete Rohls sing?
Or? Is this not? This? This is because of what you're because
of what you're seeing. They wentthrough and they showed the games that were
bet on by the interpreter, andwhich it could be a coincidence, but

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you see the numbers that were postedby Otani on those but that but also
too, he just signed this deal, so the money this could have been
always so. But so what arewe getting at here? But for right,
you're under federal investigation, kind oflike the whole Balco thing that comes
out because this place, the Fed'salready looking at it. But who somebody

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there's leaking this information because there's there'sgot to be more to this story than
He's not going to be the onlyone I can guarantee. So I did
not see the numbers so on thegames that were bet on where his numbers
like silly good, No, theyreally badly bad to the point like I
don't understand the plus like a basketballthing where you're missing the bottom. Yes,
we're almost like like a shaving point. So that's what you're okay,

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But like because because the reality is, you can't make yourself silly. I
think the games that he had,I think he had one game that was
he had. I think the pitchingnumbers were bad, the hitting stup.
I think he had a couple ofhome runs one game, but just happened
to be the games at the theyes trainer, But that's what I mean.
But but like I said, whenI saw them, you know,

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plus one sixty five or minus onewhat, I don't know. You know,
people can explain it to you.I'm not in you know, analytics
with that. But that's with justseeing that. So there's going to be
more to this because there's got tobe escapegoating, right he Yeah, I
didn't know anything about it. ThisHey, major league Baseball is going to
look bad no matter which way thisgoes, right, because if if the

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guy, if they just try to, you know, make the guy,
like you said, we set offcamera like Samurai, right, he falls
on his sword. You know,if they make him do that, it
looks terrible by the same token,because again, there's enough skepticism in our
world that people aren't going to believethat this guy did it completely independent and
in sports, what is it you'reguilty to improven? Innocent? Yeah,

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well that's ever yes, but especiallybut especially a sports from a high profile
things, I mean to come out. I mean, you just made seven
hundred and fifty million dollars or whateverhe got, and now all of a
sudden this comes out. What's goingWhat's what's going on? I'm wondering.
I'm wondering what the translator kickbacktion tobe? The fall on the sword?
Right? Like, dude, justI mean, you're never gonna do anything

(21:45):
again for the arsenal life, justeven I mean, but does he go
to jail a translator right for forwell, what did he mean? Okay?
Money? I guess what would haveto like first PERHPS cute him or
what yeah or whatever? They got. Yeah, yeah, this way,
that dude's going to disappear. Crushcharges you probably disappeared, he'll be He's

(22:06):
probably in probably yeah, the Cuzaprobably has has He's probably get tied to
the Ucuza some somewhere along this wholething. How much is gambling influenced sports?
Now? Now you have you have, you have two major sports teams
in the gambling capital the world,right right, and you're working on a
third or thirds coming. I meanit's just amount of time before they're going

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to have a basketball tough court,correct, Yeah, and all of a
sudden, now you have that?Are you kidding me? And that?
But yet Pete Rose, the pardeof all this, you are you are
bad from everything happened after baseball.I think he applied for reinstatement again,
right, Chris with Manfred, andhe's not going to give it no chance,
no chance, You're gonna Here's thething, like, to the point

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of, right, why is BalleySports called Bally Sports. That's a naming
rights deal. Valley does not ownthat sports network. They just bought the
naming rights. And the reason theydid that Ballely the uh, you know,
the casino operator that's that ballet,right, and they did it because
they want you to be betting.Now they we haven't gotten the technology there

(23:08):
yet, but they want you toa flag during the game, right,
They want you to say it's theninth inning and it's fourteen to five,
but they want people to stay tunedin, so they go, you think
the Rangers will come back and getto within you know, get to seven.
Oh yeah, all day. Right, I'll bet I'll throw five bucks
on that, you know, Andthat's and we're gonna have that. I

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mean, that's why BALI did it. Think about what's right across the street
from the Glove Life Field, Idon't know, the ballpark, choc Tall
Stadium. Oh good, yeah,good point. Yeah yeah, I'm putting
up a flag right here. You'rea conspiracy theorist going on right now.
I'm just trying. I'm just thinkingthough, what what is coming to Texas

(23:52):
here? Oh yeah? And againyeah, and against you know the new
that's all they own it and that'sand that's the but just but think that's
just where this is going. Butyou're right now, they're gonna keep you
in your seats to what's the overon your foot? I think about the
Super Bowl. You can probably beton the wind direction, on the field
goal and all this stuff. Soyou're gonna be sitting in your seat.

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Okay, like you said, fourteento five, Okay, what are the
five pitch walk here? Yeah?Bet there it is right right, this
is what this is what It's gota number of pitching changes, you know.
I mean, they're just gonna keepbetting on But it's but it's usually
I mean, you can't think abouthockey. There's not much you can bet
on hockey really other than not likeit is with baseball basketball. There isn't
There isn't the time, no,right, yeah, there isn't to do

(24:34):
it. Baseball. You're talking aboutwhat you can bet right now? Yeah,
I think, yeah, all theshot props and things like that,
you know, like a certain playeryou know for three shots or you know
that kind of Yeah. But yeah, so you're gonna have dudes because I
can bet. I can bet rightnow. If I look over there,
I get another beer. That's allI get. Not you're not that you're
not that impressive, But think aboutit. What they've done. I mean,

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there's one of them place for therules that are implement and into sports.
Now, what's the latest with theNFL this kickoff role? Now they're
trying to make it like the XFLwhere you have they all line up ten
yards apart and then it and thenso there's not you want to join the
podcast, you know, just comeon and give us your sports opinions.
She's got to do her hair,so do I fix my up? Yeah?

(25:17):
He just looks good though, thankyou. I worked pretty hard tired
on that. Yeah, what doyou think about that? What it's come
to the about what gambling has donefor any for any of these sports.
I mean, the guys you had. You can't tell me that the guys
aren't taking kickbacks, right, Imean you don't. You don't. You're
hearing about it. What was whatwas the last one the NBA was?
I know the official Donnae was thebig with Donnie and that, No,

(25:38):
somebody else with the Raptors just gotbusted. Thro young guy the gambled,
a guy that doesn't even play.Yeah, oh it was a player.
Yeah, it doesn't even over underminutes or something to talk about. Yeah,
the guy put the Raptors that talksabout the difference. But I mean,
think about it. We're playing.Was I thinking about gambling or somebody
else betting on my sport? No? But now it's every word. Did
you know anybody who would have evenconsidered gambling at that time on your teams?

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Because even I mean because sports.I mean, if you're into sports,
you know you're kind of into gamblinga little bit, right, Yeah,
but I just yeah, guys,I mean guys gamble. I mean
they're playing cards and they're gambling onyou know, we're going to Vegas preseason.
We end up we got rained out. We didn't play any games.
But guys were just down there atcasino hanging out. And you know they're

(26:25):
not placing prop bets on this andthat. They're just down there and gambling.
They're having a good time doing stuff. My my, you know what,
I've had a thought of saying,Okay, here's my over all.
Right, Blood's gonna be a plustwo tonight, right, He'll have two
plus shots and then I can ButI mean, you can bet on anything.
I mean, you go to theballpark, everything from the probably the
crumbs on the ground that are sellingI mean Luis Gonzales, Yeah, his

(26:49):
bubble gum was for sale. Yousee your mouthpiece falls in the ice.
You're oh my gosh, that's CraigLoveling's mouthpiece. Let's go. Yeah,
there are people. That's what Imean. It's almost anything is for sale.
Your beer bottle, we could probablysell it right now on the show.
You probably probably get the sixth senseit's worth the bottom. Yeah yeah,
empty. Yeah, But think aboutwould you have thought fifteen to twenty

(27:11):
years ago that gambling would would infiltrateour sports to do it that way?
See, I just I think whathappened to the players that get roofed into
that's number one or a week BecauseI think the bookies are going to a
certain player and saying, hey,dude, you're getting a fucked You're not
making enough money. You know,you only play this amount of time.
I can take care of your mom, do you know what I mean?

(27:33):
And if you want to miss ashot here or there, they're not going
to the wall besides Otani or whateverhis name is, but they're going typically
to guys that are a little bitlower down. Well where they put where
did they go they went? Ifit's true they went to his interpreter because
hey, hey, yeah, yeahyou may make Yeah, this guy's makes
seven million. Do you want tomake some He pays you sixty grand,

(27:56):
but think about too, perdeant.You know, we didn't have social media,
right, These guys they know everythingabout every part of your family,
so that's what they're using. They'recoming to you rat Hey, I see
that you know your son in law'sgot cancer and this and that. Hey
you need some money? What canyou? So are you? They're basically
chumming to walk to the guys thatthey that they have all the chum.
They know exactly what you're gonna bite. So is your feeling, oh,

(28:17):
Tani didn't have anything? Is thatwhere you sit right now? You can't
think it was more on the interpreter. Why does he need to bet someone
learned in fifty million? Isn't thatas contra? Yeah? That's my why.
I don't think the big money guyswould ever be I mean, what
what do you now that you know? We know who the biggest better like
known is is Phil Michelson. Yeah, and that's something that I'm just gonna

(28:40):
say him and Jordan Yeah yeah,but they're honestly, yeah, I'm better,
but they put on the right Isaid, I'm a golfer. I'm
allowed to am I betting on myselfif I'm gonna make money and everything else,
Yes, I'm gonna bet. Butbut these guys are betting. It's
I think I guess bat Well Jordandid do it till after right, fine,
but golf in individual sport type ofthing, right, the betting Black
Sox scandal, right, the entireteam, because yes, but they don't

(29:04):
bet in the in the the heatof playing golf in a tournament. They
bet with each other and with eachother. I mean that, but but
you're you're allowed, but still you'reit's still you're not saying that field drove
one into the woods because it's no, no, no, no, no
no. But he's not throwing matcheswell you know, okay, but yeah,
they're they're I mean, they liketo have a good time in gambling.

(29:25):
But but just just how much answerthe question you actually think has something
involved? You do? I thinkat some point that's yes, right,
you can't be cold knowing, especiallywith as much time as there there guys
need more. Well, this isbefore, this was before he signed.
This is this is good. Yeah, I mean he was still making money.

(29:49):
How long a year before? Ohyeah, I think everything was basically
last think about that, but heknew, but think about it. Yes,
yeah, come on, let's butlet's be honest as athletes everything else.
How many dumb mistakes have you done? Just done? Stupid ship and
you just go how long is thisshow? Yeah? Exactly, that's the
point. So that's what it couldhave been. It could have been one

(30:10):
of those if right, hey rats, yeah, go ahead, right and
realize oh sorry that that plays underfederal investigation. Yeah, yeah, that's
what I mean. So young youngand Vincent Bule athlete and as translator says,
dude, if I've put this moneyon this, yeah, I can
make so much money, but I'mgo ahead. Yeah, okay, well
let's talk about p Diddy. Now, oh my god, now you're open?

(30:32):
Are we going with? Are wegoing with the bridges too? Here
we go Equal Opportunity Podcast? Yeah, Pee Diddy? We don't. We
don't have our guys here, Wecan't. Yeah, all that's right.
Yeah, we have Where's Heart colorsfrom our color commentating show. Yeah,
where are yeah out here? Outhere? We got one with knee surgery.
Nay heart. We wish we wereissued a lot. Yeah. So

(30:56):
so anyway, mentid you got togo. It's five thirty seven. We're
good. We can finish that,all right, So let's talk a little
hockey, all right, what doyou want to know? How good are
the stars? I mean we're gooder? Is that? I mean? Right?
I keep hearing even divorce say,you know he hadn't found his rhythm
yet, he hadn't found you know, I'm sure we're getting closed. We're

(31:18):
in game sixty five, six seventy. Yeah, rhythm, he can find
his rhythm. They're gonna go asfar again. You hear it all?
Yeah? And do they want togo back and forth with him? And
what you wouldn't know? I mean, you want Jake to be the guy?
He proved the only thing that Isaid a long time ago when he
came off the Calgary series where hewas so good, I mean sixty some

(31:41):
shots and they lost that one.The hardest thing for him was to live
up to that the following year asa young goal But he to me,
he has such a calm demeanor.Yeah, he's not a cocky person.
Yeah, I think he believes inhis abilities. But I've always I think

(32:05):
when you have a goalie that's thatgood, that can be that good it's
very calm. Don't create more problemsin front of them that you don't have
to. They've won a bunch ofgames this year. The only issue that
I have with as a group isthey've let things get away from them late.
And I think it's it's a systemthat they play in their zone and

(32:28):
it's a man on Mann kind ofsystem. And for me, I'm not
that guy. But again, they'vewon a lot of games by doing it,
so you can't complain with it.They got what six seven twenty goal
scorers now on this which is crazyfranchise record, which is crazy twenty goals.
They can score goals, but youthe playoffs are always a little different.
You know, the goals should takecare of themselves, but let's not

(32:50):
let teams climb back into the game. And so I guess I think Jake
Ainger is good enough to say,you guys want to I'm gonna stop this
one to stop that one. Butwhen we create our own problems in front
of them, and it goes fromhere to here, or goes here to
hear or or my biggest pet heavenin these kind of systems is and you

(33:10):
played when if you grow up asa defenseman. You play a lot in
front of your own net in thecorners, right, So, but when
you play man on man and you'reI got you, But you go out
to the blue line or above thetops of the circles, and now all
of a sudden, your ways thatdefenseman, I'm up there. Who's got

(33:31):
to be in front? That's aforward. Forwards weren't really groomed on playing
in front of their own net.They don't know how to seal guys out.
They don't get the right body position. And I see some of those
kind of goals that go in.I don't put those on Jake all the
time. Okay, that's my feeling. But again I will continue to say
that they want a lot of games, and they're really good, but you
get to the playoffs, I don'tthink you have to trade chances. And

(33:52):
that's what worries me a little bitabout the playoffs is that you know that
there's a steady diet of two onegames, right, Yeah, you can
have all the twenty goal scorer,not a lot of six, five,
seven, five games. So youknow they got to be I mean,
do they have enough, Like wasgetting tanav enough at the trade deadline?
To bolster. It gives you asolid top four. That's what it does.

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Yeah, it gives you top four. Now hack and pause injured right
now? Lundquist, if he's gotto come in, suitor. You know,
Susan is getting a little older.But suits is a guy that really
likes man on man because there aretimes that literally sometimes when the punk is
coming at your net, but myguy's going over there, you don't just
turn your back. But he's toldthat what I'm ful to do, I
play man on man where I wouldn'tbe as black and white as that.

(34:37):
So what Tanna has done is andagain I think they had a couple of
different ways that go. I wishHarley was right handed, because if he
was, him and Mirror would bethe perfect pair. Harley's going to be
a study already is. But isn'tTana the only right handed guy we got?
Hocking pause right? I believe Lunquistis right handed. But what what

(35:00):
it would do is if you couldhave Tan of play with Hayskin, you'd
get number two things really good offensiveguy, defensive guy compliment each other.
But you get Miro back to astrong side. I don't think he's bad
on his off side. He's sotalented that he can play there, but
I think he's more comfortable on theleft side. But you got to left
you ready, and then you couldhave but again you don't have that right.

(35:21):
So and I think you have twoways to go. You either say
we're putting Mirror and Thomas together.That's what they're doing along with your If
you want to go strength on strength, you want to go power against power,
everybody's going to say that, ohyeah, you got PAVs and you
know, hints and robo. Ithink the best line this year has been

(35:42):
the new Shane line. Yeah,I mean, do Shane marchmen. I
mean, and they've just been theydominate offensively. So anyway, you can
load up your offensive line and saywe're just going power against power, or
you can take a guy like youknow now it's it's these two guys.
I mean, you've got those twoguys that are your second pair. You

(36:02):
can put them against the top lineand just say we're gonna shut the top
fine now, and you can youcan match that way. I think what
they're gonna do is they're gonna gopower again, the power and because they
have been out scoring teams you know, on players and if you can the
concept of the fosterphy. A lotof times we spend more time in that
zone than we do in our zone. I mean, the numbers they're gonna,
they're gonna to be in your favoriteYeah, but you're right, I

(36:22):
mean, but you think about playofftime, what happens, Well, everything
tinds out, Yeah, exactly.And I'm worried about who they could plan
the first round, which is Vegas. Vegas took advantage of them and the
man on man stuff last year.That's what I thought they did. So
how they beat Yeah, that's whatthey did, is they they took advantage
and they know you're playing a certainsystem and I'm just gonna skate up here,
and this is man on man rightnow. Just in hockey, it

(36:45):
sounds more like window dressing, right. It's just kind of like an offense
right where they're just running. You'rerunning guys across the just across the back
of the of the line, justright just to hey, here we go.
But if we can, but likeyou said, we can pull guys
out to put somebody else in.And that's what you do. Yes,
that's and I that's the flocking position. Right and force a forward to play
in front of those own mets becausehe's got to beat a foward. Yeah,

(37:07):
exactly, They're not going to beblocking shots like defenseman are. They're
not going to know, you know, angles and everything else that's going on.
So but you're right, that's whereyour goaltender is supposed to come and
make those says. What I'm sayingis, don't force Jake to have to
make those things. Just let himkind of sit back in a chair and
keep things he called he is hecalling out from from the back behind them
with I don't think so, youknow, I don't think I think you

(37:29):
play with Did you play with goaliesthat did that? Now, all the
goalies I played with quiet because wedidn't play like that. We did our
jobs and we were pretty good atit. They did their job. The
only time was probably Eddie when hefirst got here. Eddie made a comment
actually in the paper one day,and because a couple of goals went in
on it, and he said,well, I don't know how'm suposed to

(37:50):
stop all these shots with these guysall trying to block shots and cut puck's
getting tipped and stuff like that.He actually had a point right because he's
such a good goalie. And Iwent into the film room with it one
day and because it was in thepaper the next thing, and I read
him. You know, I wasa little pissed off. I thought,
you guys, didn't I tell youguys a job. You're only like,

(38:12):
you're not playing in Chicago. You'renot going to get forty shots. You're
going to get twenty two or twentythree. But what happened was there was
a shot that Darryl saidor it wasin neutral zone and a puck got tipped,
it hit said stick, and itwas between center ice and our blue
line. Yeah, and they're Unfortunatelyfor ed there was a camera right behind
him. You know. It waslike, well, when when you can

(38:36):
imagine when you tip a puck fromcenter right, it moved this much.
Yeah, and it went in onEddie and it was like a rare goal.
And that the comment was made,you know that after the game.
Yeah, So I went in thereand we looked at it and I'm like,
what are you making now? You'remaking five million here, so you're
killing me one hundred feet away.You can't pick a puck up like this,

(38:59):
my Yeah, And I said ed, but you're right, like we
there are times that we can getout of the way and then we kind
of created a monster. And youknow, there's some of those guys Al
mckinnis and I'm fraid of all theguys that can that can live in the
pot. Eddie would come up tome on face offs on our own zone.
He'd skate out and there's a faceoff, you know, this side
or this side of the net.He'd kind of skate up to me.
TIMI pickles, you take the low, I'll take the high. I'm like,

(39:20):
oh sure, that's ray Dorg.Yeah. Now it's okay to block
the shots. But again it's kindof working together. But the thing I
think what we all learned was wewere I mean, Hitchcock and those guys
in Gainey, they're very good atdefensive zone coverage. You're going to get
shots from over there and over there, and and goalies can just kind of
get here, do the job anddo what they do. They don't have

(39:42):
to overwork. But think about itas a hockey as a defensive or as
a hockey player general, and thedefensive zone, somebody's going to take a
shot, what is your first thought? Put a stick or something in the
running of it. Yeah, wellthat's what you're Yeah, but see forwards,
that's not their instincts, right,that's what and and this, and
you said defensemen are going to blockthe shot, not anymore, not anymore.
You'd be surprised they they getting down. You'd be surprised how many how

(40:08):
many shots that are blocked. Nowagain, you play for Philly Torts's even
in with the Rangers. I mean, some of these coaches are are very
hard. You got to get inthe shot line. Everybody wants getting the
shot lines. You have players onthe offensive side of things. They have
this long take a shot, youknow, because there's somebody that's gonna get
in the line to get You're taughtwhen when the pot coast from here and

(40:29):
it goes out to the point,you don't go like that. You go
like to this, and then yougo to them because you get into that
passing or that shooting link. Sothen now they got to move it back
down here. But when you playa certain system in your zone and you're
just doing this stuff all the time, you're not always in shot line,
and then you end up like Isaid, you've got you've got players that
are not playing the position that theywere taught to play, so to speak.
But again I will say it thatthey are a team that that can

(40:51):
score three four goals a game.But you guys are both right, playoff
time, you're gonna run into ahot goal team. You're gonna just like
a hot pitching step in baseball.Und he just yeah, and then and
you're right, guys, there areteams that back in, They back into
the buff. But what happens oneone guy, one guy gets hot,
Right, You've got somebody that's gonnaput the puck in the net. Right.
He ends up being like a plustwelve plus fifteen in the playoffs because

(41:13):
of he just got hot at theright time. But but it is the
back end too though, Right,it's the goalie if it's a frustrating,
if you play right, you frustrated. They don't get like, yeah,
just cashed off. Yeah. Therewas a year Anaheim got in early two
thousandsmember and then a goalie just stoodon his head and point yeah he uh
garan yeah John no way, Idon't know they won the cup there that

(41:34):
year, but it was like buthe was actually the conn smythe winner that
didn't win the Cup. He wasthat good. The second got behind lost
all right, Yes, yeah,back in the eighties. But that's what
But that's what you're looking for though. It's just a matter of because I
mean, you look at these teamslast year. Who would have thought Florida,
right would have been to the Really, I mean, Boston has just
been just been all year years andhere we go and then you run into

(41:59):
these That was because of Rosky allof a sudden woke up. But he
does that, he wakes up fortwo or three rounds and then all of
a sudden he's been like that thisyear. I mean, Florida's probably the
tough Philly body would say Florida onthe east. On the east side of
things, I'd say Florida, Carolina, And again you're gonna say Boston and
the Rangers. I mean, that'sI can understand that. But I would

(42:19):
say Florida's got to be number oneto win the Cup on the east and
Carolina maybe number two. On thewest. There's like six teams. Oh
yeah, I mean for you gottaDallas number one. They can get there.
Colorado they get there always. Butthey seem to have developed this how
they just continue to just to buildfrom what they have, right, it

(42:42):
seems like there's never much change there. Well, it made a couple of
good moves and made a couple ofchanges, not like Vegas. Vegas knows.
Yeah, they can kind of circumventthe cap. I mean, they're
gonna get mark Stone Bath. Itgoes back now. But because there is
no salary cap once you get itinto the playoffs, so they can pick
up a couple guys, which theydid, a couple of guys on some
some big contracts. They picked themup, but they got two guys that

(43:04):
are hurt, so they fit intothe cap now. But then when when
Game maybe three comes, there's nomore cap, so these guys can all
come back and that eighty four milliondollar cap is now at one hundred.
Tampa did it. That's how Tampawon it. But they had to look
at where they've been now. Nowall of a sudden, they've they're struggling
right now. Yeah, but rightnow, yeah, Balance could play them
in the first round. Yeah,which is about that one. Yes,

(43:27):
but see they don't. They haven'tbeen healthy all year long, and now
they're starting to get healthy, andthen you know it's the whole you won
the company before you know what you'regonna You all talk about that, and
you know what it takes. Allwe gotta do is get to the dance.
That's all we gotta do. Youknow, it alls the matter.
All right, Let's uh, let'spretend that Derek and Nat are here.
Derek, what do you think ofthe match? They're great, Nate.
I think they're they've actually, they'rethey're trending up. They're they're a tough

(43:52):
team in the middle right now betweenDaniel Gafford and Derek Lively Junior. Uh,
they're really that's the that was likethe missing piece. I believe it
because I don't know either one ofthem names. Yeah, and I tell
people NBA names and they're like,I've never heard of that guy. I've
heard of them. Yeah, it'sjust yeah, you're right. But with
basketball right now, I mean,you think about it, right, you

(44:12):
could have your best players out thereand you're take Philly for instance, without
embid, right, they've fallen tothe playing spot. Yeah, I'm looking.
I go, they're gonna get boatraced every night. Look, and
they're like, they just won agame. What is going off? But
in the beauty of it though youtalk about you talk about injuries, hockey,
baseball, whatever it is. Theguys that are getting the reps,
getting the time, and all ofa sudden, now you've got your guys

(44:34):
healthy. Now you're not playing,right with just six guys, seven guys.
You're playing with a full bench ofguys, right, A couple of
nine guys. What's about I don'tknow that eight or nine is? You
know what's about? I don't know. Basketball carries. I mean they have
a cary. I think they carryfifteen. But in the playoffs especially,
you're only going eight deep at themost, maybe maybe nine. But now
you've got guys you can rely on. Right now you're playing But get an

(44:55):
embiid. Yes, right, ifyou're got if, they're not going anywhere
in the playoff unless they get it. But a healthy but he's you know,
back, but being able to dothat. Right, But like you
said, you get in Okay,now they get into this the playoffs,
the play in yeah, whatever itis, it's a different Yes. Oh
my gosh, they have an ndseason tournament. Now they have a post
a postseason playing tournament. How manyteams all that money are there not sixteen

(45:16):
teams in the NBA that get in. It's yeah, there's the top of
nows. The top six are automatically, and then there's a play in for
there's so then you get four morethat have a chance. Seven they're in
a playoffs. Get four more thantop six are in. I think then
seven plays not spending, play tenand eight plays nine. Then they play
and they do, and then thewinners of those two games put the Yeah,

(45:37):
they get the A when the realtournaments start. How many teams are
in sixteen? Yes, okay,so they're just creating, they're just money.
It's basketball, right, Sixty fournow will be at one hundred and
twenty five at some point in basketball. Yeah, I mean we've got how
many teams are in the NBA thirtytwo, just like hockey. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, andthere'll be more. There's gonna be there's
gonna be expansion in Vegas. Isgonna be one of them? Yeah?

(45:59):
You know that? Yeah? Yeah. Isn't Lebron gonna buy that team?
I'm Brady's about to buy the Raiders. He's gonna really that's what I keep
here, right, the bid forBrady to buy it, you know.
And then that's because he's gonna beon our team and you can come back
and play Probably nice one played somuch golf. Yeah, but that's what.
But that's what I think about thesebig city Nashville is gonna be another

(46:22):
one that's gonna get that's gonna haveThey're gonna have baseball. The're gonna baseball
baseball because they're building Brandy Football Stadium, something ungodly that they're building down there.
So you've got hockey, you gotbasket. Oh no, you've got
Memphis on basketball. I mean Ithink that they had, No Nashville didn't.
How was the other team that waspeople are just played for a member.
Oh yeah, yeah, that wasthat's Memphis. That was the other

(46:44):
team that was down there. Thatdo you understand that the people that are
listening to this podcast, people arethinking, what do these guys just stick
to what they do? So we'retrying to nod to Derek and Nate.
Nate, how do you think theCowboys will be? Oh my god,
they had this is a bad offseason. So why Cowboy's not going to be
good? Well? I don't thinkso. There is that right, Jerry's

(47:06):
I've actually seen the circle of lifefor the Cowboys. Jerry's like the circle
of life. This is our year. We're good, we get to the
playoffs. We chowed. How we'regoing back to the Yeah. I think
the Green bit Packers had something todo with it. They did every year.
Yeah, every year, usually AaronRodgers. Now it's Jordan loves Daddy
their daddy. Yeah. Yeah,he's going to be a vice president.

(47:28):
Hell it was. It was Brettfare back in the day. You know,
I mean it doesn't matter. Soyeah, no, but they what
they have done, Jerry says,we're all in, and don't they spent
three million dollars announcer. Yeah,a couple of training staff members, nothing.
So is it time for Jerry togo? Have you ever heard that?
Before? You ask any Cowboy fan, they've been waiting for that.

(47:51):
But think about it, Jerry,Jerry plays. He's the owner, right,
what's the owner's shot spend money?Yeah? What's the gentle managers job
to the children team? What happenswhen you're both Yeah? Right, but
you wants to spend money and yeah, but if I'm a you're you won't
so wait, nobody else you do. He does want to win, he

(48:14):
does. He doesn't pay deck,but he won hundred million dollars. Somebody
already got for it five hundred butit was a short cut. Yes,
so his cap the cap their capspace, and so we'll go through.
I think the division they talked about. I guess his salary cap pit this
year is like fifty million or fiftyfive, almost sixty six. I think
it's fifty nine. Yes. Yeah, the Eagles go out and signed about

(48:36):
six dudes or something and they're stillthirty two million under their cap their cap
pit. Yeah, they restructed.I think they restructured Deck, right,
that something that happened. Yeah,I mean they did. They're talking about
they're talking about adding years to it. You add, you pay all this
for one player, and you can'tgo get one another player. It's like
a video game. I just wantthe best guy, right, and I'm
gonna sign Rad, but you knowwhatever, we'll do this and what's that

(48:57):
working on? Yeah? No,that's what I'm saying. That's why Boy
fans, that's why I love it, because there's always turmoil. But that's
why Cowboy fans are so pissed offbecause this is not a video game,
this is reality. Do Cowboy fanslike that. I think that's probably fifty
to fifty though, but you're right. I mean, you know he hasn't
won. Yeah, you know what, that's what people base it off of.
What have you done for the winning? Is is nothing? I mean,

(49:21):
it's you know, just like withRomo. Romo was is a great
quarterback, but he didn't win andit did nothing exactly. But that's what
I'm But that's what I mean,that's just in general, that's what people
want. Right Philly, Philly justit's a blue collar city. Shut your
mouth and do your job, right. Could you imagine if Dak was in
Philly running and these guys are hewould get run out of town. Yeah,

(49:44):
I mean, but that's just butit's one What's it come down to
the media, what the media portraysan athlete ads, right, he's das
and God send for the cow that'sgreat. Do you go, you know
a football game, I'll go,Where are my Eagles going to talk to
him? Oh my god? Dakis not the answer to that, not
this because they're doing they let whatTony Pollard left? Where do you have
Tennessee? Yeah, yeah, you'rerunning back that you let go of Zeke

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the year before now you've let Nowyou've let go of Pollard, and then
now all of a sudden, you'vemissed out on Saquon, You've missed out
on on Derrick Henry, You've missedout on Aaron Jones. You've missed out
and got Austin Rico. Doubt whoRico? Yeah, Rico, we don't
have enough money because we've got topay our quarterback. And then you're gonna
have to pay Michael Parsons. Yourhand, by the way, their quarterbacks
in peril because they just let thebest offensive lineman in the end go to

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the New York Jens Yeah, towork with Aaron Rodgers, Tyrone. So
here you go. But then you'vegot these other that are there. That's
the that's the beauty of is theparody of across the sport itself. What
these these guys are doing and theamount of money they're throwing it. They're
quarterbacks. But if you're smart aboutit, right, you have people around
you to own. Hey, you'rethe GM, your player development guys,

(50:52):
what do we need to do.It's supposed to need to get out on
Sunday's warm Like this is common knowledgefor me. You live in a whole
you do is a Christmas tree stillfor your parents house? Yeah? Oh
yeah, she got two of themthere. So when you're listening to a
football game, are you a Troyguy or guy neither? They're they're they're

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they're there. No, there's noOkay, okay, here's an option the
other. No, I can't.Troy's better than I think than Tony.
Yes, okay, but here's Butwhen you get into announcing sports, for
instance, there are homers Jack EdwardsBoston Bruins. I have to mute the
television. That's a homer. Yeah, I have to mute the television.

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And there are guys in the NFLand other sports. Tim mccarvern baseball,
head to mute the television because itis so bad. There's no there's no
level. You're wrong and you're rightnow, Boston Bruins fan, you love
you, Okay, but I'm justtalking about nationally. But just think about
though. But as a third partlreadyof watching a game, I want to

(52:00):
know that you're both sides. Imean, you hear about in the playoffs
right these all we talk about isone sing one John Matten. I mean,
it's amazing. Brett Farber is ableto play football as much as John
Matten hung on him. You know, he wouldn't even be playing. He'd
be at home watching playing GoF ButBrett Farve will do that. You know,
how to stick to what's going onso people can enjoy what they're hearing.

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They don't want to hear about something, Oh this is back when this
guy did. I don't care.I want to hear what's going on.
I don't want to hear about yourpolitical beliefs. Right, hell, I
want to watch a sporting event andI want to know whatever what's going on,
it's happening. I want to beaside Troy or Roman. If you
if you you've got to Changrows,you're watching the game Troy, dude,
to be honest, I mean I'vetaken. If I'm giving only those two
choices, I'll take Troy. ButI think of the national But Troy comes

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with Joe Buck right, and that'sthe part. So there if you're so.
But of the national analysts, Ithink Collin's work is oh no,
I agree with that. Hum yeah, I just think Colin's worth one hundred
point. I think collins Worth justbrings me the game. You know,
he just show got it. Obviously, there's I'm a lot of the guys

(53:05):
that get into the game. Yeah, if I'm announcing a game, I'm
in there. Oh gosh, itlooks like those are the guys that that's
Madden. That's how maddened. Youwant to hear that because those they've played
it, they know what it feelslike, right. I think that too
many of them are analytical, butI'm glad they're getting a lot more guys
that have played to call to callgames. I want a hockey guy to
call a hockey beast, So II know who I did not like in

(53:27):
the first I think it was hisfirst year, but I really thought he's
coming out a long way because GregOlsen. Okay, I didn't like.
Now I think he's kind of openedup a little bit. But that's not
what I really care about. Ijust wanted to because I talk to people
all the time and I'm I'm justcurious. I don't care either way.
I just wanted it for I findthat Troy tells you more about the players,

(53:50):
what's going on and stuff like that. Were Romo calls to play before
it happens, and and he lookslike a lot of people love that.
They look like they want to saythere was a suitser man, He's like
I like them. Everyone on everyoneone of those guys could do that.
I mean they all see the quarterbacks. Yeah, the quarterbacks look at it
and go, oh yeah, it'sgonna be a you know, cover two
go this way that they know andRomo just brought it to the air,
which was you know, it's agood part. And then sometimes he just

(54:12):
calls a number number of the player, which good guy's name or is that
just old? I mean, isthat just when you played you always use
numbers? Yeah, sixty two,I don't know. Yeah. So all
right, man, it's been fun. We got to go. We've solved
all the problems. We're done.I think we're done. We got to
get MENSI out of here. Yeah, we gotta gets You had to leave
in thirty minutes. Do you seewhat happens around here? We've been here

(54:34):
for an hour. Yeah, it'sa whiskey. It's not us exactly.
Oh and by the way, doyou like revolver beer? But anyway you
had any revolving Yeah? Your ballbeer guy? Now you know a beer
guy. I leave the beer toyou. Yeah, yeah, because John
and I had we were dalking.It was kind of cool. We're looking
for a sponsor revolver. Well,we were with some snipers and shooting a

(54:57):
lot of guns and they had Revolverbeer. Yeah. Hey, nothing better.
The ATF loves and beer and alcohol, alcohol and gets right. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's another podcast. That's the subs and subs with
luds. We gotta get we gottaget harp and data. We'll get them
out here. We're gonna talk aboutcolored greens. No, and now I'll
tell you what we're gonna do.You know, we can do this.
I'll call our guy, our sniperye, and we'll do a podcast with

(55:22):
Nate Harpmanchi you and me right outfrom there. Oh nice, shoot,
yeah, we'll do the Yeah,the four of us and we'll have a
we'll have a competition, Yeah,a little competition on Yeah, Okay,
I like it. That's probably onlytwo we're going to come back, but
we'll have a comp yeah, rightto the death. Yeah, exactly.
We just had so many Revolvers.We just screwed it up with the Revolver.

(55:44):
So all right, guys, thankyou, we'll see you next time.
We don't know what we call thisSuns and LUNs and big head Pod.
Todd, what what do you whatdo you actually call it? What
is it? Big head Pod,the big head Pod, big head Pod,
head Pod and the Montimes. Idon't understand where you got that name
from. But yeah, that's whywe have three cameras out here for he

(56:05):
has had too many concussions. Yeah, that's our next topic, concussions.
Concussions. Yeah, I don't knowif we've concussions. Yeah, next next
time. Well, it's been awesome. It's been a great evening here at
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