My 22 Year Road To Johnny's House

I hit 22 years at XL1067 this month... With my Son graduating and trying to decide what to do next... This is Part One of the story of how I landed in Radio and on XL1067.

Episode Transcript

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So I just sit the twenty twoyear mark at XL one oh sixty seven,
which is just crazy. You know, I never thought i'd be here
twenty two years. You know whatI did think i'd be here twenty two
years. There's a few people alongthe way who didn't agree, and a
few that tried to derail me.But I thought it'd be cool to tell
the story of my twenty two yearshere at XL and how I got here

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in the first place. I'll tryto remember. Actually this is a podcast,
just a bit of a contrast fromwhat I'm used to. I usually
have to talk fast because there's fourpeople sharing the mic, but this is
just me, so I say whateveri'd like. It might be serious,
sometimes it might be funny. Sometimesdescribe your head and say bright and it's

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such a dummy. But it's justme. I ain't got no help.
This is Brian Brins and I'm talkingto myself. It is Brian Grimes.
It is my podcast. I amtalking to myself and I've been doing it
for a long long time. Well, not the podcast, but working here
at the XCEL one O six sevenand well Doc and Johnny and then Johnny

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and Jay Well Johnny Magic Morning Showfor like literally two seconds, then Johnny
and Jade, and then Johnny's House. So I've been here quite some time,
and I thought it'd be cool tokind of tell the story of how
it all came about to begin with, because I was talking to my son.
My son just turned eighteen. Youprobably know that if you listen to
the show or anything like that.So I was talking to my son and

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he is freaking out because he doesn'tknow like what he wants to do yet.
Like so he's like, I don'tknow, I'm you know, what
am I gonna do? I don'tI don't know what I want to be.
I don't know what I want todo for the rest of my life.
And he just graduated high school andhe's got to get ready to enroll
in his first semester of college.I did Florida prepaid, thankfully, so
it's not gonna set me back allthat much. So gonna throw some cash

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into it, but not as muchas I would have. But he doesn't
know what he wants to do,like with his life, and I was
trying to explain to him. I'mlike, dude, that's totally fine,
Like, you know, I've turnedthis radio thing into something. But I
didn't jump into the radio thing untilI was twenty four years old. So
I mean, by my timeline,he's got six years before he actually,

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you know, finds what it is. He's going to be like, all
right, this is gonna be mything and really go all in on.
And I hope it doesn't take himsix years or'll be fine something before that.
But on my timeline, you know, he's got a long time before
he has to really lock it in. So I was trying to explain to
him, you know, just chill, like I know, it seems like,
oh, I'm getting left behind becausehe's got friends and his girlfriend who

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kind of know what they want todo and he doesn't know yet. And
I think that's okay because I thinkthat's kind of what college is about,
or the after high school experience isabout getting out there, trying some things,
seeing what grabs you. Because whateverit is you decide to go all
in on, you're gonna have tolove it. I mean, you don't
have to love your job. There'sa lot of people that don't love their
job. But if you could startall over you he's starting from scratch and

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decide what to go all in on. Make sure it's something you really want
to go all in on. Andthat's what I did, and so here
I am twenty two years later.So I was telling him the story of
how it all came about. Andit's kind of a long, convoluted story,
so this might get a little bitrambly, and I didn't like jot
it down first. I didn't liketimeline it, so I'm kind of just

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winging it here, so there couldbe some tangents and some pauses and some
oh yeah, I got about thispart, but whatever. So we will
just tell the story of how Iended up here right now, twenty two
years after I started here at XCEL, and really it goes back to when
I moved to Texas and then backfrom Texas if we're being honest. Because

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I didn't know what I wanted todo out of high school. I thought
about doing a lot of different things. I was pretty smart in school,
although pretty lazy, so I hadoptions. I had great test scores,
so I at college wise, Icould pretty much go wherever I wanted.
We didn't have a whole lot ofmoney, so it was going to be
either free money or borrowed money.I get a lot of free money at
pell grants and stuff, So Ididn't know what I wanted to do.

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My mom was in education, soyou know, teacher was an option for
me. I think I originally majoredin fine art because I like to paint
and draw and stuff. But then, you know, I got to thinking
what am I gonna do with fineart as a major, Like, let's
be honest, I I'm gonna workat a museum. I Am i gonna
paint things and sell them at thefarmer's market me an art teacher maybe.

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So I didn't know exactly what Iwanted to do, but that was my
original major. That's what I startedout as at Seminole State College. And
then I I went to Valencia fora little bit because I was just trying
to get away from people that Iknew already from going to elementary school with
them, and I figured that wouldbe a little bit different. So still
stuck with fine art, and thenI started to focus more on maybe I'll

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do education, maybe I'll be ateacher, so I'll go that route.
And then, as fate would haveit, I met a girl that was
here on spring break who was bestfriends with one of my good friend's best
friend and that's who she came downhere with. And I'm not going to
get into that long story, butI ended up dating her a long distance

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for a while and then moved toTexas. While in Texas, I changed
my major yet again to graphic designbecause they had a really great graphic design
program at University of North Texas andI met some really cool people in the
Arts center, and so I changedmy major again. And that is kind
of where I first started working witha group of people, like on an

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everyday basis, same like five ofus, and it was sort of like,
man, if there would have beenpodcasts and like, uh like streaming
video back then, it actually wouldhave been kind of cool because we were
kind of funny. We were veryset commie. All of us were super
creatives and we were you know,joking all the time and making jokes all
the time, and there was differentpeople that were kind of different types of
people. So it was it wasI mean, I guess it was kind

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of like a morning show without theradio, but we didn't really think about
it that way, and that lookingback on it though, that's kind of
what it feels like. So Idid that, and as fate would have
it, again, the relationship inTexas didn't really go all that well once
I moved there. And so afteryou know, a year and a half
or so, I found myself comingback to Central Florida and I needed a

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job, so I called my friendJason, who I worked at Circuit City
with before I left to begin with, and he had then moved to best
Buy. And I started working atbest Buy with my friend Jason, and
it was fun. We got agood time. We both were like wiki
wiki DJs, him and our friendBill better than me. But still so

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every night, after you know,work, we would go back to the
apartment and spin records and drink Coronasand just hang out all night. And
again, still didn't know exactly whatI was gonna do. I switched to
UCF when I came back, butafter just one semester their graphic design program,
and it may be great now,but at the time it wasn't as

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as good as University of North Texasand it didn't just didn't do it for
me, So I wasn't sure that'swhat I wanted to stick with. I
don't know how It's just I tried. I didn't love it, and I
didn't love going to UCF. Itwas a much bigger school than UNT.
It's beautiful, yes, but Ijust I liked the vibe at UNT and
once I went there, and thenI went to UCF, it just wasn't

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the same. No offensive, you'rea night sorry, just wasn't the same
feel to me. So I wasn'tsure what I wanted to do. Meanwhile,
at best Buy, I was workingin customer service, and then eventually
I took a little promotion to workin the back office. And my wife
always makes fun of me because shewas working in the merchandising team. I

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didn't really know her at the time, and they would get in early in
the morning and they would do likethe grunt work, the lifting and the
setting things up, and I wouldget in early in the morning and I
would go in the office and movenumbers around and do the reports. And
she's like, yeah, I hear, such a punk. You did the
easy job. Yeah. So Ialways say, work smart enough, harder.
So we worked at the same place, but we didn't really know each
other at that point yet. AndI'll tell that story on our podcast when

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we finally ever get the podcasts ofthe first time that I saw her walk
into Best Buy. But anyway,so I worked in the back office,
which meant I got there very earlyin the morning, and it was a
pretty set schedule. So I wouldget there every day of the week,
I could think, except for Sundayand maybe like Wednesday or something like that.
So I would come in and youknow, do my job. And

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I needed some entertainment, so Iused to listen to sports radio in the
back office, but at the timethere was no streaming radio, so it
was just AM radio and quality sometimesit wasn't that great. So I started
listening to talk radio, and Iwould listen to Real Radio one or four
point one, and they had adifferent lineup at the time. Howard Stern

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was on and you know the Who'son now the Monsters in the morning,
where I believe at the time theywere in the midday, and then you
know, Drew Grobbo was at night. It was I mean, Jim Phillips
was always on the afternoon, butit was it was just a different thing.
And I worked until around you know, one o'clock in the afternoon because

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I got there early in the morning, So it was I basically did the
morning shift, but I remember onSaturdays I would come in and Saturdays at
the time was the best of themonsters and it was Daniel and Blackbean who
was now Carlos on the show andDaniels from Tom and Dan. So they
would host live kind of a replayshow and they would set up the bits

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from the week and I would listento that every day and I was like,
God, you know, that soundslike a whole lot of fun.
Man. And I had always,you know, loved being like the jokester
guy and like, you know,the comic relief of whatever group I was
in. But I was like,God, that sounds like a whole lot
of fun. But how do youget into that? And I'm like,
I think I could do it,Like I had the technical side, I'm
good at I mean, I'm quick, and I'm witty and I'm bunny.

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I think I think I could dothat, but like, how do you
even get in? And then,as fate would have it, I heard
a radio commercial for a school calledACI, which was the American Career Institute,
and it was a radio school runout of Daytona Beach, and the
if you remember radio back in thattime frame at all. I'm not sure

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how far you go back. Thetagline was thanks Vance, and the guy's
name was Vance that ran it.He had the deep radio guy voice and
it's like basically said you, it'slike one of those truck driver commercials.
You could be on the radio.And I'm like, I could be on
the radio. So I jotted thatphone number down and I'm like, well,
maybe I could be on the radio. Now. I was still going
to UCF. I just wasn't lovingit, and I wanted to get an

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internship at the radio station because Ifigured that's probably the best way to get
in there and see what's the what, right. But because of the program
I was in, I couldn't getan internship in the radio stations in the
area. But through a CI youcould get an internship. So I went
over to Daytona, you know,I called signed up. Went over to

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Daytona to check out this ACI thingum. And the way it works is
you get to come to a classand like audit a class for free and
see if it's for you, anduh, you know, Vance the radio
man assesses your your voice and youknow your your cadence and your what he
thinks is your ability to be onthe radio. Um. And I got
there and there was a bunch ofpeople there auditing the class the same night

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as me. And what I quicklyrealized is that none of them were really
all that qualified to be on theradio. But VANCE found a way to
tell all of them that they werequalified to be on the radio. So
pretty quickly I knew that are like, if if you have the money to
pay for this, then you're you'reyou're in right, We'll find a way.

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I mean, there was one guythat could barely put a sentence together.
And they had a dad a deepvoice, but he could barely put
his sentence together. And he's like, yes, you're a grown part.
Your pipes. Always said that thosepipes, and I don't have pipes,
like I don't have a radio voiceand sometimes can't string a sentence together something
exactly sure what he saw in me, I always saw my check That's what

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he saw in me. But therewas one other guy there and his name
was Chris, and Chris had alreadygraduated from University of Iowa, and so
Chris was like me, it's justtrying to find a way to get your
foot in the door, because that'swhat you have to do, and that's
why he found himself at ACI.And so Chris was the only person in
there that I thought, And ifanyone that happened to be there in this

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time frame because I didn't keep upwith anybody is listening to this, I
apologize. But Chris, this isthe only one that I thought to myself,
well, that guy's smart and thatguy actually could do this, like
he's he's good. And so Iwas like, well, that guy,
I like him. And we justkind of started talking first night, hanging
out, talking about it a littlebit, and we both quickly realized,

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which kind of made it funny thatyou know, if you are willing to
scratch the check, you've got whatit takes to be a member of the
ACI family and get on the radio. So we both decided, yeah,
you know what, we'll scratch thecheck and we decided to do it.
So at that point, I wasworking at best Buy, still going to
UCF, and now I was enrolledin this ACI thing. But I quickly

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used that to grab an internship atclear Channel Orlando, which was right down
the road from where I lived.At the time, I lived in a
pretty cheap apartment with well, atthe time it was Jen who was now
my wife, but at the timewas my girlfriend. And I know I
fast forward past the meeting her andgetting together with her part, but that's

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not what this podcast is about.So yes, at this point, because
of our work together at best Buy, we are now dating, and I
decide I'm going to do this ACIthing and drive to Daytona. I want
to say it was three nights aweek and Chris and I would would carpool
and save some money and then youknow, the whole way there, we

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were just kind of bullshit with eachother and so it was actually really cool
the whole way there and the wholeway home. It was the long ride,
but we got to know each othervery well, got to kind of,
you know, build this kind ofrapport, this relationship to where we
could go back and forth and makeeach other laugh the whole way there and
back, which was perfect for radio. So I took my job, my

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internship at what was the time,Clear Channel Orlando, and they didn't own
XL at the time. XL whenwas sixty seven was across the street,
but they had just bought XL.When I was six seven, they'd finalize
a deal to buy some radio stations, one of them being XL, which
is what they were actually buying.They I think ditched the rest of the
radio stations that they bought, butthey wanted XL. They wanted the brand

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and Doc and Johnny that came withit. So they were building out the
studio that eventually became the studio thatI worked in when I was an intern
here, it was just some extraspace and a closet, but they were
building that out when I started myinternship, and my internship was in production
with a guy named Dave Green,and Dave was cool, a very very

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like methodical, like this is thisis the job, this is how you
do it, this is this,this is this. But I got to
learn like the the the nuts andbolts technical side of some of the radio
stuff pretty early on by doing thatinternship, which was pretty cool. I
remember my first commercial that I gotto be a voice on was for a
bike shop called bike Works, andI had to pretend to be like a

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too cool for this cashier that waslike, oh yeah, we got some
bikes in the back. I gota blue one and a red one and
I got to be the voice onthat. And I remember I used to
check the logs back in the day, the logs or paper and I used
to check the logs every day tofind out what time it was gonna play,
and so I could be in thecar to make sure I could hear
myself on the AM sports station forBike Works, which was pretty cool.

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But the internship itself was kind ofmonotonous. So back in the day,
a lot of the stuff wasn't digital, so you would have to get the
paperwork, you would have to gofind the commercial that came in from the
agency, you'd have to dub itin, You'd have to you know,
sign off on everything, deliver eachcopy of whatever to whatever, like you

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know, each department could have acopy of the form that it was finished.
And I mean it was it wasmonotonous, but it was detail oriented,
which might be where I picked someof that stuff up from. And
it was like just kind of likeblah, like this is not what I
wanted from my radio experience. Now. I was still going to ACI at
the time, so it was stilldoing like the radio learning over there,

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like how to be a radio guy, and I was doing the technical side
over here. But again, asfate would have it, the guy who
did the internship that I was currentlyin the semester before me had gotten hired
to be on The Monsters and hisname was Carlos aka at the time black
Bean, and so he knew howmy internship was going because he did it.

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Like he knew like, oh yeah, gosh, sometimes you want to
just jump out the window, andI did. So he would say,
hey, grab your stack of papersbecause I had to go deliver these papers
like my first thing every day,and just duck into the studio down at
Real Radio and you can sit inthe back and just kind of watch how
the show works. Because he's like, I did the same thing you're doing,
and man, I know, Iget it, and they did the

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same for him, so I'm like, all right, that is freaking awesome.
So every day I would go grabmy stack of papers and I would
go sit in the back of theReal Radio studio and watch how the Monsters
show worked, and I would sitin the room with Daniel and Blackbean and
just kind of beat up in thecut. At the time, Dirty Gym
was in a different room. Hecould see me, but not really and
then the rest of the crew reallycouldn't see me. One time, They're

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like, who's that guy? BecauseI was sitting in there. But you
know, because the radio shows arepretty tight like and they don't want you
know, any ears during the offthe air part here in any of the
personal stuf, because we're like families, you know. But they were cool.
They let me sit in there andlearn that, and that was fun
and it also made my internship wayless monotonous. And so eventually they say,

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hey, why don't you come inon Saturday mornings, Like we do
that by ourselves, We do thatlive. We basically just you know,
interact with the segments of the show, introduce them, and then we just
kick back and chill. Why theyplay because at the time, there was
no like voice tracking, there wasno recording ahead, and so I was
like, hell yeah. And Iknow at the time my wife at the
girlfriend at the time wife now girlfriendthen thought I was crazy because I was

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going to get up at like,you know, five thirty on a Saturday
morning to come here and sit withthe best of show. But back then,
I and I and I said itfor the longest time, Look,
you gott if you're gonna be allin. You gotta do whatever, man,
And sometimes the stuff you're doing ain'tthe stuff you want to do,
but you know you gotta you gottajump in there and do it. So
I would get up on Saturday morningsand come sit with them and watch the

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live best of show, and everynow and then they would let me jump
on the air and say a fewwords with them. Was super cool,
and so I learned a lot abouthow the studio works from them. So
everything is going well, My internshipis going to come to an end.
My ACI thing only lasts for likefour months, so it's gonna come to
an end, and I'm gonna getmy little certificate. This says I'm good

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to be on the radio. Butthen I got to find a place to
be on the radio. Well,at the time, there was a company
called the Broadcast Team, and theywere over in the same area as the
school, Daytona Orman Beach over thatway, and they were trying something new
called streaming radio. There was nostreaming radio really back then, so the

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Broadcast Team was kind of like adigital marketing team, but think digital like
in the you know, stone agedays, because there was no internet really
to speak of those social media tospeak of. There was Internet, but
it wasn't like it is today,way different. So they had the idea
because they had developed some technology forlike direct marketing using celebrity voices that sound

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like they're calling you and leaving youmessages whatever. So they had some deep
pockets and they thought of this ideato do streaming radio, and so they
were looking for talent to fill thetime. And we were finishing up at
ACI and quite honestly, we wereI mean not to you know, pat
myself on the back, but wewere the best thing coming out of there.

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And so they're like, well,why don't you come over here and
check this out and see if it'ssomething you'd be into. And at the
time we're like, well, it'snot really on the radio, but you
know whatever, we'll go see.And so we went and we liked it.
It looked like it was a coolsetup and the idea concept was great,
and the long term they had theidea of packaging this for companies like
if you walk to Walmart right now, you hear Walmart Radio and you hear

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their music that they pick with,you know, and topics of that they
want to talk about Well, thatwas actually the original idea of the broadcast
team to put this together and packageit for Coca Cola, for you know,
knee for Walmart and they, andI'm going to say we because I
was part of it. We're justso far ahead of the curve that there

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was no market for it. Therewas no place to show that it worked
or to explain it. So God, if we would have been i mean
a little bit later in the game, who knows, you know, we
might be like the pioneers of streamingradio were those guys that found it first,
But then somebody else walked up andsaid, no, we found it

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u anyway, so we went wechecked out their their their place, um,
and it was cool, like itwas a good setup, and so
we're like, well, do youdo you do? You want to do
this? And they wanted us todo their mid day because that was like
the big time frame because that's whenpeople were at work, because only people
listening to this would be sitting ata desk, right because you couldn't stream
it on your phone back in theday. Back in the day, you
couldn't you know, watch it onYouTube or any of that business. So

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at work would be the only place. So we were going to be nine
am to like one pm every day. And they were like, you know,
would you guys want to do ashow? And we're like, uh,
absolutely, And they said, allright, well, we don't have
a whole lot of money, buthow about twenty four thousand dollars a year?
And it was gonna be a paycut for both of us, even

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from Best Buy was making way morethan that. It's gonna be a pay
cut for both of us. Butwe said, you know what, him
and I talked about it. Chrisand I were like, this is what
we want to do. This isthe reason we went to you know,
Aci, So let's do this.Like they're they're cool guys. They clearly
have a business plan, they've gota successful business, so it's not just
two guys doing this out of theirtheir garage. So let's do it.

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So we agreed to do it,and we say, yep, we'll take
it. Let's do it. We'regonna be the new Midget Day show.
And we called ourselves Midday Madness,which is corny of shit, I know,
but we're like, yeah, let'sgo. They go, Well,
we got there on the first dayand we were ready to sign our contracts
and they slide them across to us, and the twenty four thousand was for

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both of us. So they wantedus to do it for twelve thousand a
piece. And I told Chris,I was like, Man, as much
as I want to do this,I cannot do this for twelve thousand dollars.
Like I can't because it's such afar drive. We're gonna spend a
bunch of money in gas. Andthen I needed work another job and by
the time we drive an hour eachway and can't. I can't. I

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just I can't do it, man, And he's the same, He's like,
yeah, I'm with you. Sowe told him, were like,
hey, uh, misunderstanding. Wewere already taking a giant pay cut to
do this for, you know,twenty four thousand dollars each, and now
you're telling us it's twelve thousand dollarseach. We can't do it. And
so they went back in the roomand they talked a little bit, and
they came back out and they said, all right, we're gonna do it.

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I'm gonna give you guys the twentyfour thousand dollars each, and we're
gonna we're gonna make this thing work. And I'm like, all right,
let's do it. So we wesigned the paperwork, and I remember telling
everybody that you know, I knewat the time, including my girlfriend who
later became my wife, what wewere doing and getting that look like,

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huh because it's not on the radio, Like I can't tell you to turn
it on, you know what Imean? Like it's it's online. It
was called E Radio Live. Andif you go back in the way back
machine, that's that website that cantake you back to websites from back in
the day. If you type anyradio Live back in the early days of
the two thousands, you can findit. It's it was just basically a

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streaming radio station. We played somemusic, we talked a lot, We
had some regular listeners. We hadsome big companies that were in the central
Florida area that their entire office wouldlisten. So we had, you know,
we had at the time, youknow, thousands of listeners. But
it's just so far ahead of thetechnology curve that it just it didn't make

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sense. And it was very hardto monetize, very hard to monetize,
so there was almost no way thatit was gonna gonna make it. But
because of my my ties here atClear Channel, you know, I knew
Daniel and Blackbean, and I gotto come here a lot. It was
kind of cool because I could youuse that like for clout to be like,

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hey, look, you know,I, you know, learned from
some like real radio no pun intendedprofessionals, you know that know what they're
doing and everything. So I hadthat behind me, which was cool,
and I had that kind of cosign for me. But we were on
a internet radio station, a streamingradio station before streaming radio was a thing,

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but my radio career had started,so that is a good thing now.
Obviously, if you can't monetize something, eventually that something goes away.
So after about I would say eighteenmonths if that not even maybe eighteen months,
there started to be grumblings that,A, I don't know that we

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can continue to do this. Thethe guys that ran the company, they
were local. We were kind oflike a toy to them. Like they
listened and joked in their main officesand they would call into our our radio
show in their main offices, andit was kind of fun for them to
have, like, you know,their own like court jesters is what we
felt like. But eventually rich guysare like, all right, I'm tired

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of just throwing money into something.What's next. They bore me off with
their heads, and so after awhile it got to the point we're like,
look, if we don't find away to monetize this soon, we're
not going to be able to monetizeit. So we hustled like crazy,
Chris and I. We were tryingto find a ways to make it work.
We actually broadcast live from Halloween horeNites at Universal Orlando. This was

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we were the first internet radio stationto ever broadcasts from Universal Orlando. And
even explaining that to them was kindof like, wait a second, so
you're not on the radio. SoI mean, we did everything we could
to try to find a way toyou know, get out there and and
monitor ties this thing. But eventuallyit just wasn't happening, no dice.
And so I remember one day theycalled us in and they said today is

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gonna be it. Today is gonnabe your last hurrah. And so Chris
and I had a lot of fun. We joked the whole day about being
their their court gestures who they weretired of and they were they were killing
us and cutting our heads off andjust sending us on our way. And
then Chris and I drove home fromDaytona. I remember like it was yesterday.
We drove home from Daytona, like, well, we're out of radio

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again. And we never actually gotinto radio, and we didn't know what
we were going to do next.And that was scary because that was what
I had decided was gonna be mything. And now, even though I
wasn't making a ton of money onit, it was still something I loved
to do and I was hoping eventuallyto turn into something. It was gone,
and I didn't know exactly what Iwas gonna do. But obviously,

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since I'm here celebrating twenty two years, I wasn't done yet. So I
will pick up this sorry here inpart two of my twenty two years at
XL one O six seven. Makesure you check me out on Johnny's House
of course, weekdays six to tenam on XL one O six seven anywhere
in the world on the iHeartRadio appafternoons two to seven down on one of

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Magic one oh seven seven. Almostforgot what radio station I was on Magic
one oh seven seven each weekday,riding home with you and anywhere in the
world on the iHeartRadio app each midday, six days a week, Monday through
Saturday, I'll favorite throwbacks, oldschool hip hop and R and B on
the Throwbacks channel on the iHeartRadio appand in multiple cities wherever it goes and

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gets picked up. You can checkthat out. Make sure check out yoho
Orum dot com. That's the deliciousspice rum my wife and I have put
together. Follow us on everything onInstagram, Facebook, Twitter, threads at
Yoho Spice Rum, at the BrianGrimes, and we will pick up with
the rest of my twenty two yearsat Excel next time right here on my

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podcast talking to Myself