May 22, 2025 • 29 mins
Today's episode features Iceland Judy, Hannah's dear friend, travel buddy and former flight attendant. The pair discuss their tips and tricks for traveling and how to take the next step of seeing your dream destination. Judy talks about the importance of advocating for yourself at airports, while Hannah goes on a rant about proper airplane footwear. Get ready to take off with That's Rad!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to That's Rad with Hannah Tyler, a podcast where
we look at the things in life that are truly
making this world rad. I may be a bit biased
with today, but this woman we're talking to extraordinary, dear
friend of mine, pretty rad Iceland Judy. Welcome to That's Rad.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you, Hannah.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Great to see you and be here with you today.
Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Glad you're here now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Judy is a very dear friend of mine who we
have gone on how many adventures together now, both domestic
and international?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh my gosh, I've lost count.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Right, we're each other's travel buddies and it's the perfect combination.
And we thought today would be a great day to
talk about getting into travel. If you are someone who's
maybe gone on a plane a few times, you've been
to a few places and you just want to take
that next step, or just even you are an experienced
traveler and you want to know the inside scoop on
it all. This is the podcast we're going to take
care of that because Iceland, Judy former flight attendant, so
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she has all the inside knowledge.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't know that I.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Have all of it, but I've seen a lot and
they're done that, and I'd love to help and with
any questions or some quick tips and tricks we got this.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The stories she will share on this, but I think
it's best to start how Judy and I started to travel,
because we when we're out and we see people and
they know our background and what we've all done, it's
how did you guys end up doing this? And Judy,
do you want to start with that? How we became
the bestess of travel buddies.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm going to let you tell that story. Hire.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I had a brief soare into real estate where
I met Judy. We bonded instantly, and this would have
been November of one year, and by October of the
next year we were on our way to Iceland together.
Hadn't really known each other all that long, and what
started out as a let's go to Oregon for the
weekend turned into let's go on a week long trip
to Iceland and do the Ring road.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yep, she was like, I need to get out of town.
I need to go to the beach.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No, maybe I need to go hike and I always
have a big desire to chase waterfalls.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yes, you does.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Somehow we ended up on an airplane winging it to Iceland.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yes, we did, which is really we hadn't spent a
lot of time together. We never even done like an
overnight trip. It was just like, I, well, I'm going
to Iceland. We'll see what happens. Hopefully we still like
each other by the end of it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And that was the case, and now I have a
travel buddy for life.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yes, so there you go, and I love it because
I'll just be like it was Christmas time last year.
A little bit before I text you, I'm like, hey,
do you want to go to Manchester in January?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
England? And she's like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And I think by the next week flights where booked,
hotels were reserved.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And we're like we're figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
If I'm ever bored, I just text Hannah a city
or a state or a country or just you know,
a landmark I want to go see. And the next
thing is, hey, I can go. Here's my flight itinerary.
Can you meet me?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And that's kind I can do. You come from different coasts.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, Judy right now is in Nevada. I'm in North Carolina.
So it's find the meeting spot and either connect in
an airport or we'll meet somewhere. And I think with
the best part to kind of start about this is
having to be flexible in travel. Do you agree with
that if you're planning these big trips that you can
have itinerary, but you better have a little wiggle room
and plan B and plan C. And if you're going
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to somewhere like Iceland, make sure you have a D
and E.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Absolutely. I think flexibility is one of the biggest things
that you can take with you on your travels and
your sense of adventure. If you don't have either of those,
you're probably setting yourself up for some big disappointments.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I think a great example of that is when we
were in Iceland together. We wanted to do the entire
Ring Road, but all of a sudden the weather changed
and it was hey, we better alter our plans a
little bit and make some adjustments for safety, because ultimately
you do want to be safe throughout your travels.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yep, we turned around, We went back to Wreck of It,
and we found the cutest little bistro to have dinner
in Snap Bistro, so good, and just went about our
day and found some different things to see and later
on the radio hearing that the vans had their windows
blown out because of rocks and wind.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It was a good decision.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And one of our last.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
When we were in Manchester, there was a girl at
a makeup store because we always have to go find
the beauty products.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
For me admittedly, so who asked us?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
She found out we were from the US, and she
wanted to travel more and she didn't really know where
to start. And that's what she asked us is how
do you guys make this work, especially with budgets and
all of that. And from there we just kind of
spiraled on talking to this girl as she applied our
new favorite concealer. With that being said, Judy, how do
we make these trips work? Well?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think first of all, we do planning and we
have a good conversation, so we're both on the same
page and we know what we both really want to
see and get out of the trip. Usually it involves
me realing you back in and saying we're not going
to seven countries in seven days.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Hannah, I don't understand why that's not possible. It's like
we're not wanting to be stressed for time or something.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So but we reel it in, we find where we
both want.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To see or do or taste, and then from there
we do some planning. Hannah's great at the logistics of
the trains and subways and finding those times, and then
we sort of put together a very loose schedule, if
you will, because I'd love to have some free time
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built in and time just to say, hey, you know what,
I loved that little cafe and I would love to
go back and sit there, eat a pastry, have a
cup of coffee and just people watch. Or it's raining
today and maybe instead of you know, walking around the markets,
we should get on a train or go to the museum.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, it's that flexibility.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And I do need to point out Judy, thank you
for saying that I can find the trains in the times. However,
it's navigating us via foot that if we need to
go left three hundred feet, we will go right seven
hundred feet and I'll be like, oh, no, I think
we turned the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, pro to, your Google maps do not always work
when you are in other countries with big buildings around. Yes, no,
your side streets, know where you're going and keep looking
and get your head out of your phone.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And this is very or have someone like Judy with
you who can actually read a map better. The big
thing I think that holds people back from going on
these these long trips, whether it's a weekend trip somewhere,
whether it's a week long trip to Europe. The main
factor is budget, right, and that's something really important to
take in mind and traveling for your budget, how do
you have the money to travel? And something Judy and
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I do is we plan ahead and pay for it
ahead of time as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Right, We'll go ahead and book our hotels and Hannah
and I will keep a spreadsheet of some sort. And
if it's me booking my you know the hotel because
I found it or I have that membership with that
hotel group, and then she'll go ahead and venmo me
the money. So that's taken care of and then airfare
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she takes care of hers, I take care of mine.
And then as we go along, if there's things we
have to buy tickets for plug for ceremony, the keys
in London, my huge must do you have to book
it like two months out sells out fabulous.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You have to book your ticket.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So Hannah did it and then I then moowed her
the money, so by the time we get over there,
we're really just paying for our food, incidentals and any
shopping that you feel like you must do.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And that's really the way to do it, because then
you have the peace of mind of you you've budgeted more.
And I know, like us, we're lucky in the position
where if we book something and I go, hey, I
don't get paid until two weeks from now, can I
send you the money then? And you're like absolutely, just
to make it affordable and more tangible. It's like if
you pay little things ahead of time, by the time
you get there, half of the stress.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Is taken care of.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And on the flip side of that, you know, once
you're there, you cannot predict what's going to happen, whether
it'll be you know, a strike, a shut down, bad weather,
their cancelation. I fully suggest that you have enough money
on your account to be able to buy yourself another
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way home and figure it out with the airline that
you were originally on after you get home if they
cancel and you need to rebook yourself, And it makes
it a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Airports stress people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I swear like you know how casinos pup oxygen in
airports pump stress inducers in because.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
People are just already kind of on this like heightened.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
List of uh, so walk us through that a little
bit more. You can speak to this as a former
flight attendant, because what people don't know is airlines work
with one another to get you to your destination if
they can't and moving forward. So can you kind of
explain that in a nutshell?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you know, things happen. Mechanicals happen, whether it happens
cruise timeout, planes don't get where they're supposed to be
for whatever reason, or they can't take off. And some
of the airlines have reciprocity in place where you know
they have a d with another carrier that if we
can't get out, we can put our people on your plane.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not every carrier has that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Also, some major carriers might have more than one flight
a day to that city or destination. So you want
to see what are your options. So, for example, my
daughter was just down in Costa Rica.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
She's a college student.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
She was coming home and her flight canceled due to
a mechanical She was told they would not get her
out for probably twenty four hours, and I was looking
at the flights and I'm thinking, this plane probably isn't
going to be fixed. If it's a big enough mechanical
that they've canceled all day today. There's no maintenance facility
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down there. They're going to have to fly apart in
fly mechanics and blah blah blah blah. And they were
not offering her another airline to get her out, So
I bought her a ticket on a totally different carrier
and got her home instead of having her get on
a bus, go to a hotel and hope the plane
was fill fixed the next day.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And when she's home and she's safe, because this is
her college age daughter in Costa Rica, you want her
home and you want to make sure she's all good
to go, you can figure it out. Then airplanes breakdown.
Airlines have policies in place like worry about it once
you're home and settled. Then in that moment in the airport,
if you had that flexibility.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And I think the biggest thing here too is I
knew that she would get home eventually. I didn't want
her running around Costa Rica without a lot of direction.
She was getting a little stressed because you know, she
is a college aged kid. And the other thing is
she wouldn't probably advocate for herself in the way that
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you or I would because she doesn't know how to
do that yet as a twenty year old young lady.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Speaking of advocating for yourself. Great example of that is
you and I are flying back from Iceland.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Now this is before we even.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Leave for the trip, and the airlines switched our flights around,
because flights do change, it's just you got to ed
and flow with it. And we went from Iceland to Seattle,
Seattle to Reno, and our flight from Seattle back to
Reno left before we were even supposed to leave Iceland.
And because of you, you were able to navigate that
landscape and get us on proper flights home that weren't
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going to leave before. We weren't even in the country.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We weren't right.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
They had changed our flight and canceled something. I don't
remember all the details, but they had us when they
rescheduled us. They had us departing Seattle back to Reno
before our flight from Iceland landed into Seattle.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And that's another thing. When you do code shares and
what are the shares.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So when you have an airline that partners with another
airline to take take you different places, like in this example,
the carrier that took us from Reno to Seattle doesn't
fly to Iceland, so they partner with another airline to
make it seamless.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And then you go on.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So the company, the airline that canceled the flight from
Seattle to Reno, I called them, but they're like, oh,
but you bought the ticket under the icelandic leg. So
that was a lot of back and forth, and you know,
you just have to keep I don't know how many
phone calls or how long I stayed working on that,
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but we finally got it together. We got home, and
I think one thing I learned from that is even
though Hannah, you and I never buy our tickets together,
that we could link them through the Yeah, through customer service.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
They could link our reservations.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
So then when I was calling and getting the flights rearranged, they.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Were able to do yours as well.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Is that something you would recommend people do if you
are flying with a friend, even if you are on
the same aircraft. I thank those tickets together as soon
as you're a confirmed passenger and you have your flight book.
That way, if something does happen, one friend can call
and get it taken care for everyone else.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, Because I don't know if you remember that day.
I remember I was texting you, going, what is your
confirmation number?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What's this? What's that? Because the lady was able to
do it for me. Otherwise you would have been making
those phone calls.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Too, exactly, And then we did get back. I mean,
obviously we've made it back. We're here together today. Well
virtually when we landed in Seattle, our flight didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Lead the next day.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And because of you advocating for not only yourself but
for me, there's some there's some perks if you will
some benefits that airlines can offer you if you are
stranded at an airport overnight.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Because of their error, right.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They were able to give us some hotel vouchers, and
they also gave us meal vouchers.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So and if our.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Hotel did not have a van available to take you
back and forth, they would have also given us a
cab voucher. But they did put us up at a
hotel that had van service.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And how each airline could be different. So if you
can't speak, I know, you can't speak for.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
All of them, right.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Is there a moment that you go, this is when
you ask for the food vouchure or the transportation or
the hotel. Is there a certain couple hours that Okay,
after you're stuck in an airport for let's say three hours,
that's when you're then eligible for these things.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't really know the parameters of that. I just
know if you're canceled and delayed, especially overnight, due to
a mechanical not weather, so it has to be the
airline's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Not yours, not an act of mother nature.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Right, so you know the snowstorm in the northeast. No, sorry,
it's not their fault. We like to blame them, but
it's not their fault.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm looking over our notes right now, and there's a
point where you go flight canceled, delayed, mimosas like that's
your solution.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, you know, I think you just have to have
that sense of adventure. Everything anything can happen, right, You
just got to take a breath, turn into a positive
you know, find something to do. And I am a
big proponent of putting down your phone and talking to people.
I know it's really hard these days. People get on
the airplane, they don't want to say hello, they don't
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want to talk to you. But you're stuck in a
bar the whole you know, you have three hundred people
stranded with you. You could find something interesting about the place
you're going.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
And to that get out.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like when you travel, you are there to experience new
culture's new way of life, whether you are going from
North Carolina or Georgia or the United States to Australia,
like things are just going to be different, and it's
great to get out and talk to people and new
travel friends because maybe what they did is something you
would have never thought of, which makes me think. When
we were in Manchester, we ended up going to this
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beautiful English town called York, all because of a lovely
woman and her son in front of us who found
out we were from the States and said, hey, I
overheard you say maybe you want to go here, but
you should really check this out if you have time,
And that I mean has been in my experience anyways,
one of my favorite town cities I've traveled to.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh my gosh, it was so quaint and you know
what's funny, sort of full circle is. We were at
Shanaiah and in front of us at the Shania concert
with this group of gals who're like, oh, we just
came down, you know, a girl's weekend. We're like, well,
where are you from? Oh, a town you've never heard
of in the north of you know, the UK. We're
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from York, of course, Well, very Hannah is. She goes
home and she totally scopes out York and looks at
it and decides that it's adorable and we need to go.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, and we weren't sure if we were gonna have
time to go there because it was such a quick
trip to Manchester. But as soon as Victoria was her name,
I still want to add her on Instagram, but it's
gonna be creepy if I find her. At this point
was like check this town out, and I was like, yes,
I've fed, which also to our point about being able
to pivot and where's your sense of adventure? And you know,
somedays you're gonna wake up in the morning and just
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hop out a train somewhere. If you do that, though,
and you go to a city for one specific thing,
I'll uh walk around the walls of the fort to
the city. Maybe do that first, or check to see
what time they close at.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, we got to York thinking we were gonna walk
around the old room and walls, and as we headed
to them, we saw that they closed about an hour earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But it was such a fun trip.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We kind of just got lost in a city, like
we knew a little bit of We knew enough about
it to be dangerous, right, but it was just fun to.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
We knew we wanted to eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Betty, Yes, oh my gosh, Betty's if you have the
opportunity to that is for sure. We had brought up
train travel and one thing to be aware of if
you're using public transportation, your options right now, like planes
are kind of having.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
These new policies come into place.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But we can't speak for all train carriers, but the
ones we've been on, we experienced a significant delay and
actually got a refund for some of our fair so
we got some money back. Still ended up going to
where we needed to go, but for less of the price.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I was sort of surprised the conductor announced it
that you know, we're delayed, and then of course we're
chit chatting. We're not really listening to the announcements.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But he comes over and.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Says something about a refund, and so we went on
the website and sure enough, that one was quite easy,
and I think we got like twenty five pounds back.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, sure something, which was then.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And then there was other delays that were shorter and
we might have gotten a couple of dollars and those
were instant.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We didn't even have to ask for them.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So getting some bang for your buck. Let's get into
public transportation more, because Judy, this is where I want
to dig into your mind more of a former flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
How long were you in the Air Force. I flew
for twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So you've seen a lot. You've experienced a lot now,
I think more than ever. This is very and I
don't want to say that that's a bit traumatic, But
there's this apprehension people have now with flying because of
what they're hearing on the news. What would you tell
someone right now who's who's looking at the TV and
seeing ABC and D and are about to hop on
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a plane or maybe are hesitant to book that trip.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, first of all, I'd say that air travel is
very safe. It's safer than driving to the airport. Statistically,
more people are killed in car crashes than in airliners.
Airlines make great headlines, you know, and it's sensational. It's
tragic when we have an accident, but you know, we've
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lost say three hundred people instead of a car crash
that had two or three occupants in it. And it
and once it happens, Once we have an incident, whether
it's you know, with loss of life, or if it's
you know, blowing out a tire, whether it's a fire
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on the tarmac, and we see everybody, you know, evacuate,
it's still the safest way to travel. And once something happens,
they like to sensationalize it. So say the Friendly Skies
has had an incident. The next news cycles, what you're
going to see is that they blew a tire, or
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they had to go back to the gate, or they
clipped wings on the you know, taxing out. I feel
like once somebody has something happened, the media really really
focuses on them.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was reading an article or I saw on TV.
It was it was a pie who was saying, like,
not necessarily airlines are more dangerous. Now you're just hearing
more and more about these incidences that are happening on
the account of everybody is on their phones and social media,
and they're so quick to post it and then it
gets shared in a news outlet picks it up.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, I'm so glad that people didn't have the phones
when I was flying, right, I You know, just any
little incident can turn into sensationalized.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Media fodder. Yes, you know, it's just when you look.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
At it, you go, wow, I was just you know,
I was joking and you totally took it this way, or.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't know, it's just gotten so out of control.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Word did that?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Now? Do you have any tips or recommendations advice for someone,
whether they are a new traveler or an experienced one,
just airplane etiquette.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
If you will, do not.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Put your feet on the tray table please, and do
not change your babies on the tray table. You know,
I'd like to say, if you're going to pack it
and you're going to try to carry it on, be
sure you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Can lift it.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh good one.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The flight crews are not there to lift your luggage.
They can assist you, and part of that assistance may
be checking it to your final destination. But you know,
just come with your patients. I think one of the
biggest fears that comes into people when they are the anxiety,
like you said in the stress when you get to
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the airport, is that when you get on the airplane,
you're told when to board, You're told where to say,
You're told where to put your luggage, You're told when
you can go to the bathroom, You're told when you
can stand up, you're told when you're going to get
you know, your drink or your food if there's food.
So I feel like you've lost control, it's been taken
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from you. So I think for a lot of people
that's the big, biggest piece of anxiety when they travel
is just because they're not in control anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, speaking of when you're on a plane and being
in control, flight attendants, you guys rule the rules. Yes,
the pilots are there to get you there, but the
flight attendants are there to more than to make sure
you're comfortable.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
They're there when you need them most.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Which is in safety situations. Which leads me to, can
you please pay attention to the safety demonstration, whether you've
seen it a million times or not, look up at
the flight attendant and acknowledge their existence.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And take your conversation down to a whisper level. If
you just can't stop talking to your seat mate, you know,
the guy behind you may have never heard it before.
And when you're you know, sitting there yapp and about
whatever your yapp and about really loudly, it distracts. So
you know, and that point, Hannah, You know, I've played
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for many years. I still fly all the time, different carriers.
I still listen to.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It, right, things change.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's just yeah, it's just a good thing to get
your mindset around.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
The Statistically they show that most people when they try
to evacuate an aircraft will go to the forward door through.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Which they entered.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So if I'm in row nineteen, say that was at
row one, and Row twenty could be an exit row
right behind me, but I'm not thinking about it. So
I go all the way forward and I could have
exited right the row behind me, possibly if it was
a viable exit.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So it's something to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I still look around and I think, in my head, oh,
I'm at row fifteen.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Row twenty is the exit row.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I have four, you know, four rows and then turn
or whatever count them in your head.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's a good call. Counting those rows smart. Another thing
safety demonstrations. If you have to evacuate and you have
to go down the slide that blows up, or go
in the raft, take your Judy knows this about me.
If I'm on an airplane and I look at people's shoes,
because I have this theory that the higher your high
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heels are, the more likely you are not going to
take them off. When the flight attendants tell you to
take your shoes off because of the slide, and you're
going to go down the slide in front of me
and pop them with your stiletto shoes, I get very
worked up, and I'm very passionate about this.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And we were on a flight and.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
In the safety demonstration, it told you, the flight attendant
told you, if you have high heeled shoes on, take
them off in case of an emergency landing because you
can pop the slide.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I get so worked up over it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh, things that keep us up at night, Hannah, You.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Don't, yes, you know what. Maybe that's why I can't sleep.
So pro tip, don't travel in high heeled.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Shoes or take them off the hand luggage they take
with them. I feel your freaking luggage behind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I feel like that is a very similar person. The
people walking on the plane with the high heeled shoes
are the same one that if the ship is sinking,
for lack of a better term, they are bringing their
handbag with them because it means more than anybody else
on the plane's life. I'm sorry you can't be on
this raft next. It's like the door situation in the Titanic, right,
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Like there was plenty of room for Jack, but there's
no room for you because my handbag needs to go here.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Instead, tell me how you really feel, right.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
What else do we need to talk about?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Hmmm?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You know what realistic expectations like when you're traveling to
the UK and you think it's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And sunny, yes.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And perhaps it rains, or perhaps you think it's gonna
be rainy and drews and it's one hundred degrees and
there's no air conditioning in the hotel room and.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You have to fight for fans.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, you need to be realistic about what you're
expecting when you travel, just like at home, right, you
think it's going to be sunny and beautiful and you
wake up to a thunderstorm, but so pack accordingly. Bring
your umbrella. You know, if you're going to a hiking destination,
you don't need your red bottom shoes, bring your hiking
boots and your tennis shoes. But be realistic about what
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you're doing and where you're going.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, Judy, do you think we've enlightened the world with
our travel advice and our stories.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Or scared them? Right?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
One of the two.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Don't be afraid though, and don't be afraid to eat
the food. Don't go and get you know, the same
burger and French fries you eat when you're at home.
Try new things.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
You never know what you.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Might like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And to that point, just because we do a burger
one way and somebody does a burger differently doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It's bad exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I get tired of hearing like they ruined the French fries.
So I'm like, guys, we didn't make French fries right.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And each culture has their own way of doing something.
But I will say the Brits they know how to
make a French fry, they know how.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
To do a chip, oh my gosh, and some fish yup.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So what I've learned from this is we're booking a
flight somewhere, so we're going to hang up. We'll figure
out where we're going next, and I'll see you there.
Sound like a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm sort of leaning towards Santa Fe and Taus this time.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, don't need your red bottoms.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, we're going to be hiking and hanging out in
hot springs and doing all the things.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We love to do.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Duty.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh hey, side note just made me think expectations versus reality.
Just because you see it on Instagram and it looks
really cool doesn't mean that's how it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
In real life. Oh goodness.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, there were so many places that we wanted to
go check out. Well we did go check out because
we looked on Instagram and it's like, oh, this little
walk about along the canals is so picturesque and you
get there and you're like, well it was a lovely
seven min out and I'm glad that I caught my
steps in.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But there was nothing picturesque about that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
No, just some murky, swampy water. Well, Jude's thanks for
being here Iceland, Judy, thank you for being on That's rad.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Have a lovely day Hannah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Bye,
Welcome to That's Rad with Hannah Tyler, a podcast where
we look at the things in life that are truly
making this world rad. I may be a bit biased
with today, but this woman we're talking to extraordinary, dear
friend of mine, pretty rad Iceland Judy. Welcome to That's Rad.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you, Hannah.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Great to see you and be here with you today.
Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Glad you're here now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Judy is a very dear friend of mine who we
have gone on how many adventures together now, both domestic
and international?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh my gosh, I've lost count.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Right, we're each other's travel buddies and it's the perfect combination.
And we thought today would be a great day to
talk about getting into travel. If you are someone who's
maybe gone on a plane a few times, you've been
to a few places and you just want to take
that next step, or just even you are an experienced
traveler and you want to know the inside scoop on
it all. This is the podcast we're going to take
care of that because Iceland, Judy former flight attendant, so
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she has all the inside knowledge.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't know that I.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Have all of it, but I've seen a lot and
they're done that, and I'd love to help and with
any questions or some quick tips and tricks we got this.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The stories she will share on this, but I think
it's best to start how Judy and I started to travel,
because we when we're out and we see people and
they know our background and what we've all done, it's
how did you guys end up doing this? And Judy,
do you want to start with that? How we became
the bestess of travel buddies.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm going to let you tell that story. Hire.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I had a brief soare into real estate where
I met Judy. We bonded instantly, and this would have
been November of one year, and by October of the
next year we were on our way to Iceland together.
Hadn't really known each other all that long, and what
started out as a let's go to Oregon for the
weekend turned into let's go on a week long trip
to Iceland and do the Ring road.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yep, she was like, I need to get out of town.
I need to go to the beach.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No, maybe I need to go hike and I always
have a big desire to chase waterfalls.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yes, you does.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Somehow we ended up on an airplane winging it to Iceland.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yes, we did, which is really we hadn't spent a
lot of time together. We never even done like an
overnight trip. It was just like, I, well, I'm going
to Iceland. We'll see what happens. Hopefully we still like
each other by the end of it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And that was the case, and now I have a
travel buddy for life.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yes, so there you go, and I love it because
I'll just be like it was Christmas time last year.
A little bit before I text you, I'm like, hey,
do you want to go to Manchester in January?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
England? And she's like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And I think by the next week flights where booked,
hotels were reserved.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And we're like we're figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
If I'm ever bored, I just text Hannah a city
or a state or a country or just you know,
a landmark I want to go see. And the next
thing is, hey, I can go. Here's my flight itinerary.
Can you meet me?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And that's kind I can do. You come from different coasts.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, Judy right now is in Nevada. I'm in North Carolina.
So it's find the meeting spot and either connect in
an airport or we'll meet somewhere. And I think with
the best part to kind of start about this is
having to be flexible in travel. Do you agree with
that if you're planning these big trips that you can
have itinerary, but you better have a little wiggle room
and plan B and plan C. And if you're going
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to somewhere like Iceland, make sure you have a D
and E.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Absolutely. I think flexibility is one of the biggest things
that you can take with you on your travels and
your sense of adventure. If you don't have either of those,
you're probably setting yourself up for some big disappointments.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I think a great example of that is when we
were in Iceland together. We wanted to do the entire
Ring Road, but all of a sudden the weather changed
and it was hey, we better alter our plans a
little bit and make some adjustments for safety, because ultimately
you do want to be safe throughout your travels.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yep, we turned around, We went back to Wreck of It,
and we found the cutest little bistro to have dinner
in Snap Bistro, so good, and just went about our
day and found some different things to see and later
on the radio hearing that the vans had their windows
blown out because of rocks and wind.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It was a good decision.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And one of our last.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
When we were in Manchester, there was a girl at
a makeup store because we always have to go find
the beauty products.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
For me admittedly, so who asked us?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
She found out we were from the US, and she
wanted to travel more and she didn't really know where
to start. And that's what she asked us is how
do you guys make this work, especially with budgets and
all of that. And from there we just kind of
spiraled on talking to this girl as she applied our
new favorite concealer. With that being said, Judy, how do
we make these trips work? Well?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think first of all, we do planning and we
have a good conversation, so we're both on the same
page and we know what we both really want to
see and get out of the trip. Usually it involves
me realing you back in and saying we're not going
to seven countries in seven days.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Hannah, I don't understand why that's not possible. It's like
we're not wanting to be stressed for time or something.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So but we reel it in, we find where we
both want.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To see or do or taste, and then from there
we do some planning. Hannah's great at the logistics of
the trains and subways and finding those times, and then
we sort of put together a very loose schedule, if
you will, because I'd love to have some free time
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built in and time just to say, hey, you know what,
I loved that little cafe and I would love to
go back and sit there, eat a pastry, have a
cup of coffee and just people watch. Or it's raining
today and maybe instead of you know, walking around the markets,
we should get on a train or go to the museum.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, it's that flexibility.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And I do need to point out Judy, thank you
for saying that I can find the trains in the times. However,
it's navigating us via foot that if we need to
go left three hundred feet, we will go right seven
hundred feet and I'll be like, oh, no, I think
we turned the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, pro to, your Google maps do not always work
when you are in other countries with big buildings around. Yes, no,
your side streets, know where you're going and keep looking
and get your head out of your phone.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And this is very or have someone like Judy with
you who can actually read a map better. The big
thing I think that holds people back from going on
these these long trips, whether it's a weekend trip somewhere,
whether it's a week long trip to Europe. The main
factor is budget, right, and that's something really important to
take in mind and traveling for your budget, how do
you have the money to travel? And something Judy and
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I do is we plan ahead and pay for it
ahead of time as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Right, We'll go ahead and book our hotels and Hannah
and I will keep a spreadsheet of some sort. And
if it's me booking my you know the hotel because
I found it or I have that membership with that
hotel group, and then she'll go ahead and venmo me
the money. So that's taken care of and then airfare
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she takes care of hers, I take care of mine.
And then as we go along, if there's things we
have to buy tickets for plug for ceremony, the keys
in London, my huge must do you have to book
it like two months out sells out fabulous.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You have to book your ticket.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So Hannah did it and then I then moowed her
the money, so by the time we get over there,
we're really just paying for our food, incidentals and any
shopping that you feel like you must do.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And that's really the way to do it, because then
you have the peace of mind of you you've budgeted more.
And I know, like us, we're lucky in the position
where if we book something and I go, hey, I
don't get paid until two weeks from now, can I
send you the money then? And you're like absolutely, just
to make it affordable and more tangible. It's like if
you pay little things ahead of time, by the time
you get there, half of the stress.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Is taken care of.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And on the flip side of that, you know, once
you're there, you cannot predict what's going to happen, whether
it'll be you know, a strike, a shut down, bad weather,
their cancelation. I fully suggest that you have enough money
on your account to be able to buy yourself another
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way home and figure it out with the airline that
you were originally on after you get home if they
cancel and you need to rebook yourself, And it makes
it a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Airports stress people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I swear like you know how casinos pup oxygen in
airports pump stress inducers in because.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
People are just already kind of on this like heightened.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
List of uh, so walk us through that a little
bit more. You can speak to this as a former
flight attendant, because what people don't know is airlines work
with one another to get you to your destination if
they can't and moving forward. So can you kind of
explain that in a nutshell?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you know, things happen. Mechanicals happen, whether it happens
cruise timeout, planes don't get where they're supposed to be
for whatever reason, or they can't take off. And some
of the airlines have reciprocity in place where you know
they have a d with another carrier that if we
can't get out, we can put our people on your plane.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not every carrier has that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Also, some major carriers might have more than one flight
a day to that city or destination. So you want
to see what are your options. So, for example, my
daughter was just down in Costa Rica.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
She's a college student.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
She was coming home and her flight canceled due to
a mechanical She was told they would not get her
out for probably twenty four hours, and I was looking
at the flights and I'm thinking, this plane probably isn't
going to be fixed. If it's a big enough mechanical
that they've canceled all day today. There's no maintenance facility
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down there. They're going to have to fly apart in
fly mechanics and blah blah blah blah. And they were
not offering her another airline to get her out, So
I bought her a ticket on a totally different carrier
and got her home instead of having her get on
a bus, go to a hotel and hope the plane
was fill fixed the next day.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And when she's home and she's safe, because this is
her college age daughter in Costa Rica, you want her
home and you want to make sure she's all good
to go, you can figure it out. Then airplanes breakdown.
Airlines have policies in place like worry about it once
you're home and settled. Then in that moment in the airport,
if you had that flexibility.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And I think the biggest thing here too is I
knew that she would get home eventually. I didn't want
her running around Costa Rica without a lot of direction.
She was getting a little stressed because you know, she
is a college aged kid. And the other thing is
she wouldn't probably advocate for herself in the way that
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you or I would because she doesn't know how to
do that yet as a twenty year old young lady.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Speaking of advocating for yourself. Great example of that is
you and I are flying back from Iceland.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Now this is before we even.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Leave for the trip, and the airlines switched our flights around,
because flights do change, it's just you got to ed
and flow with it. And we went from Iceland to Seattle,
Seattle to Reno, and our flight from Seattle back to
Reno left before we were even supposed to leave Iceland.
And because of you, you were able to navigate that
landscape and get us on proper flights home that weren't
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going to leave before. We weren't even in the country.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We weren't right.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
They had changed our flight and canceled something. I don't
remember all the details, but they had us when they
rescheduled us. They had us departing Seattle back to Reno
before our flight from Iceland landed into Seattle.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And that's another thing. When you do code shares and
what are the shares.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
So when you have an airline that partners with another
airline to take take you different places, like in this example,
the carrier that took us from Reno to Seattle doesn't
fly to Iceland, so they partner with another airline to
make it seamless.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And then you go on.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So the company, the airline that canceled the flight from
Seattle to Reno, I called them, but they're like, oh,
but you bought the ticket under the icelandic leg. So
that was a lot of back and forth, and you know,
you just have to keep I don't know how many
phone calls or how long I stayed working on that,
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but we finally got it together. We got home, and
I think one thing I learned from that is even
though Hannah, you and I never buy our tickets together,
that we could link them through the Yeah, through customer service.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
They could link our reservations.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
So then when I was calling and getting the flights rearranged, they.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Were able to do yours as well.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Is that something you would recommend people do if you
are flying with a friend, even if you are on
the same aircraft. I thank those tickets together as soon
as you're a confirmed passenger and you have your flight book.
That way, if something does happen, one friend can call
and get it taken care for everyone else.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, Because I don't know if you remember that day.
I remember I was texting you, going, what is your
confirmation number?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What's this? What's that? Because the lady was able to
do it for me. Otherwise you would have been making
those phone calls.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Too, exactly, And then we did get back. I mean,
obviously we've made it back. We're here together today. Well
virtually when we landed in Seattle, our flight didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Lead the next day.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And because of you advocating for not only yourself but
for me, there's some there's some perks if you will
some benefits that airlines can offer you if you are
stranded at an airport overnight.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Because of their error, right.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They were able to give us some hotel vouchers, and
they also gave us meal vouchers.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So and if our.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Hotel did not have a van available to take you
back and forth, they would have also given us a
cab voucher. But they did put us up at a
hotel that had van service.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And how each airline could be different. So if you
can't speak, I know, you can't speak for.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
All of them, right.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Is there a moment that you go, this is when
you ask for the food vouchure or the transportation or
the hotel. Is there a certain couple hours that Okay,
after you're stuck in an airport for let's say three hours,
that's when you're then eligible for these things.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't really know the parameters of that. I just
know if you're canceled and delayed, especially overnight, due to
a mechanical not weather, so it has to be the
airline's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Not yours, not an act of mother nature.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Right, so you know the snowstorm in the northeast. No, sorry,
it's not their fault. We like to blame them, but
it's not their fault.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm looking over our notes right now, and there's a
point where you go flight canceled, delayed, mimosas like that's
your solution.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, you know, I think you just have to have
that sense of adventure. Everything anything can happen, right, You
just got to take a breath, turn into a positive
you know, find something to do. And I am a
big proponent of putting down your phone and talking to people.
I know it's really hard these days. People get on
the airplane, they don't want to say hello, they don't
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want to talk to you. But you're stuck in a
bar the whole you know, you have three hundred people
stranded with you. You could find something interesting about the place
you're going.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
And to that get out.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like when you travel, you are there to experience new
culture's new way of life, whether you are going from
North Carolina or Georgia or the United States to Australia,
like things are just going to be different, and it's
great to get out and talk to people and new
travel friends because maybe what they did is something you
would have never thought of, which makes me think. When
we were in Manchester, we ended up going to this
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beautiful English town called York, all because of a lovely
woman and her son in front of us who found
out we were from the States and said, hey, I
overheard you say maybe you want to go here, but
you should really check this out if you have time,
And that I mean has been in my experience anyways,
one of my favorite town cities I've traveled to.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh my gosh, it was so quaint and you know
what's funny, sort of full circle is. We were at
Shanaiah and in front of us at the Shania concert
with this group of gals who're like, oh, we just
came down, you know, a girl's weekend. We're like, well,
where are you from? Oh, a town you've never heard
of in the north of you know, the UK. We're
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from York, of course, Well, very Hannah is. She goes
home and she totally scopes out York and looks at
it and decides that it's adorable and we need to go.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, and we weren't sure if we were gonna have
time to go there because it was such a quick
trip to Manchester. But as soon as Victoria was her name,
I still want to add her on Instagram, but it's
gonna be creepy if I find her. At this point
was like check this town out, and I was like, yes,
I've fed, which also to our point about being able
to pivot and where's your sense of adventure? And you know,
somedays you're gonna wake up in the morning and just
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hop out a train somewhere. If you do that, though,
and you go to a city for one specific thing,
I'll uh walk around the walls of the fort to
the city. Maybe do that first, or check to see
what time they close at.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, we got to York thinking we were gonna walk
around the old room and walls, and as we headed
to them, we saw that they closed about an hour earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But it was such a fun trip.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We kind of just got lost in a city, like
we knew a little bit of We knew enough about
it to be dangerous, right, but it was just fun to.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
We knew we wanted to eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Betty, Yes, oh my gosh, Betty's if you have the
opportunity to that is for sure. We had brought up
train travel and one thing to be aware of if
you're using public transportation, your options right now, like planes
are kind of having.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
These new policies come into place.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But we can't speak for all train carriers, but the
ones we've been on, we experienced a significant delay and
actually got a refund for some of our fair so
we got some money back. Still ended up going to
where we needed to go, but for less of the price.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I was sort of surprised the conductor announced it
that you know, we're delayed, and then of course we're
chit chatting. We're not really listening to the announcements.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But he comes over and.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Says something about a refund, and so we went on
the website and sure enough, that one was quite easy,
and I think we got like twenty five pounds back.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, sure something, which was then.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And then there was other delays that were shorter and
we might have gotten a couple of dollars and those
were instant.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We didn't even have to ask for them.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So getting some bang for your buck. Let's get into
public transportation more, because Judy, this is where I want
to dig into your mind more of a former flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
How long were you in the Air Force. I flew
for twenty two years.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So you've seen a lot. You've experienced a lot now,
I think more than ever. This is very and I
don't want to say that that's a bit traumatic, But
there's this apprehension people have now with flying because of
what they're hearing on the news. What would you tell
someone right now who's who's looking at the TV and
seeing ABC and D and are about to hop on
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a plane or maybe are hesitant to book that trip.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, first of all, I'd say that air travel is
very safe. It's safer than driving to the airport. Statistically,
more people are killed in car crashes than in airliners.
Airlines make great headlines, you know, and it's sensational. It's
tragic when we have an accident, but you know, we've
(20:02):
lost say three hundred people instead of a car crash
that had two or three occupants in it. And it
and once it happens, Once we have an incident, whether
it's you know, with loss of life, or if it's
you know, blowing out a tire, whether it's a fire
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on the tarmac, and we see everybody, you know, evacuate,
it's still the safest way to travel. And once something happens,
they like to sensationalize it. So say the Friendly Skies
has had an incident. The next news cycles, what you're
going to see is that they blew a tire, or
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they had to go back to the gate, or they
clipped wings on the you know, taxing out. I feel
like once somebody has something happened, the media really really
focuses on them.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was reading an article or I saw on TV.
It was it was a pie who was saying, like,
not necessarily airlines are more dangerous. Now you're just hearing
more and more about these incidences that are happening on
the account of everybody is on their phones and social media,
and they're so quick to post it and then it
gets shared in a news outlet picks it up.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, I'm so glad that people didn't have the phones
when I was flying, right, I You know, just any
little incident can turn into sensationalized.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Media fodder. Yes, you know, it's just when you look.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
At it, you go, wow, I was just you know,
I was joking and you totally took it this way, or.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't know, it's just gotten so out of control.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Word did that?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Now? Do you have any tips or recommendations advice for someone,
whether they are a new traveler or an experienced one,
just airplane etiquette.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
If you will, do not.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Put your feet on the tray table please, and do
not change your babies on the tray table. You know,
I'd like to say, if you're going to pack it
and you're going to try to carry it on, be
sure you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Can lift it.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh good one.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The flight crews are not there to lift your luggage.
They can assist you, and part of that assistance may
be checking it to your final destination. But you know,
just come with your patients. I think one of the
biggest fears that comes into people when they are the anxiety,
like you said in the stress when you get to
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the airport, is that when you get on the airplane,
you're told when to board, You're told where to say,
You're told where to put your luggage, You're told when
you can go to the bathroom, You're told when you
can stand up, you're told when you're going to get
you know, your drink or your food if there's food.
So I feel like you've lost control, it's been taken
(23:03):
from you. So I think for a lot of people
that's the big, biggest piece of anxiety when they travel
is just because they're not in control anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, speaking of when you're on a plane and being
in control, flight attendants, you guys rule the rules. Yes,
the pilots are there to get you there, but the
flight attendants are there to more than to make sure
you're comfortable.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
They're there when you need them most.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Which is in safety situations. Which leads me to, can
you please pay attention to the safety demonstration, whether you've
seen it a million times or not, look up at
the flight attendant and acknowledge their existence.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And take your conversation down to a whisper level. If
you just can't stop talking to your seat mate, you know,
the guy behind you may have never heard it before.
And when you're you know, sitting there yapp and about
whatever your yapp and about really loudly, it distracts. So
you know, and that point, Hannah, You know, I've played
(24:02):
for many years. I still fly all the time, different carriers.
I still listen to.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It, right, things change.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's just yeah, it's just a good thing to get
your mindset around.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
The Statistically they show that most people when they try
to evacuate an aircraft will go to the forward door through.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Which they entered.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So if I'm in row nineteen, say that was at
row one, and Row twenty could be an exit row
right behind me, but I'm not thinking about it. So
I go all the way forward and I could have
exited right the row behind me, possibly if it was
a viable exit.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So it's something to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I still look around and I think, in my head, oh,
I'm at row fifteen.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Row twenty is the exit row.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I have four, you know, four rows and then turn
or whatever count them in your head.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's a good call. Counting those rows smart. Another thing
safety demonstrations. If you have to evacuate and you have
to go down the slide that blows up, or go
in the raft, take your Judy knows this about me.
If I'm on an airplane and I look at people's shoes,
because I have this theory that the higher your high
(25:17):
heels are, the more likely you are not going to
take them off. When the flight attendants tell you to
take your shoes off because of the slide, and you're
going to go down the slide in front of me
and pop them with your stiletto shoes, I get very
worked up, and I'm very passionate about this.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And we were on a flight and.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
In the safety demonstration, it told you, the flight attendant
told you, if you have high heeled shoes on, take
them off in case of an emergency landing because you
can pop the slide.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I get so worked up over it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh, things that keep us up at night, Hannah, You.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Don't, yes, you know what. Maybe that's why I can't sleep.
So pro tip, don't travel in high heeled.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Shoes or take them off the hand luggage they take
with them. I feel your freaking luggage behind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I feel like that is a very similar person. The
people walking on the plane with the high heeled shoes
are the same one that if the ship is sinking,
for lack of a better term, they are bringing their
handbag with them because it means more than anybody else
on the plane's life. I'm sorry you can't be on
this raft next. It's like the door situation in the Titanic, right,
(26:29):
Like there was plenty of room for Jack, but there's
no room for you because my handbag needs to go here.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Instead, tell me how you really feel, right.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
What else do we need to talk about?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Hmmm?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You know what realistic expectations like when you're traveling to
the UK and you think it's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And sunny, yes.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And perhaps it rains, or perhaps you think it's gonna
be rainy and drews and it's one hundred degrees and
there's no air conditioning in the hotel room and.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You have to fight for fans.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, you need to be realistic about what you're
expecting when you travel, just like at home, right, you
think it's going to be sunny and beautiful and you
wake up to a thunderstorm, but so pack accordingly. Bring
your umbrella. You know, if you're going to a hiking destination,
you don't need your red bottom shoes, bring your hiking
boots and your tennis shoes. But be realistic about what
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you're doing and where you're going.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, Judy, do you think we've enlightened the world with
our travel advice and our stories.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Or scared them? Right?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
One of the two.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Don't be afraid though, and don't be afraid to eat
the food. Don't go and get you know, the same
burger and French fries you eat when you're at home.
Try new things.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
You never know what you.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Might like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And to that point, just because we do a burger
one way and somebody does a burger differently doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It's bad exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I get tired of hearing like they ruined the French fries.
So I'm like, guys, we didn't make French fries right.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And each culture has their own way of doing something.
But I will say the Brits they know how to
make a French fry, they know how.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
To do a chip, oh my gosh, and some fish yup.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So what I've learned from this is we're booking a
flight somewhere, so we're going to hang up. We'll figure
out where we're going next, and I'll see you there.
Sound like a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm sort of leaning towards Santa Fe and Taus this time.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, don't need your red bottoms.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, we're going to be hiking and hanging out in
hot springs and doing all the things.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We love to do.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Duty.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh hey, side note just made me think expectations versus reality.
Just because you see it on Instagram and it looks
really cool doesn't mean that's how it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
In real life. Oh goodness.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, there were so many places that we wanted to
go check out. Well we did go check out because
we looked on Instagram and it's like, oh, this little
walk about along the canals is so picturesque and you
get there and you're like, well it was a lovely
seven min out and I'm glad that I caught my
steps in.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But there was nothing picturesque about that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
No, just some murky, swampy water. Well, Jude's thanks for
being here Iceland, Judy, thank you for being on That's rad.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Have a lovely day Hannah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Bye,
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