May 16, 2023 • 34 mins
It's PGA Championship week, which means we bring out the big guns, right?
Scheffler and Rahm lead the favorites, but should you take a different approach? Jason Puckett and Ashley Ryan take a look at the field (the return of the LIV golfers) and the all-important stats (hey bogey avoidance!) and try to determine the best picks to win this week.
Scheffler and Rahm lead the favorites, but should you take a different approach? Jason Puckett and Ashley Ryan take a look at the field (the return of the LIV golfers) and the all-important stats (hey bogey avoidance!) and try to determine the best picks to win this week.
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Let's let's just start there, Like, how far do you go to meet
up with a friend on a weekdayfor dinner? I just don't. I
don't like to leave my neighborhood oncei'm in. I'm in. I think
it's just well I don't either,and especially I live. I mean,
I think here's the issue is howfar do you go and what direction do
you go? Right? Because I'mgoing basically right back to where I left
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this morning. Yeah, there's nothere's no good option, no good option
in this area. Yeah. Ithink it just depends on how much you
like the person you like. Youlike them a lot. So you're coming
back down to Seattle, yeah fordinner? Where can we say where we're
going for dinner? Do we notwant to mention that just because we don't
want autograph seekers and fan fan boys? I'd say, yeah, fan boys
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fan girls to show up. Yeah, yeah, totes. That's the problem.
Well, you never know. UmNo, we could say where we're
going. That's fine, I don'tcare. We just don't know yet.
So it's either going to be Dukesoh White Swan public house, which I've
never been to in South Aache Union, I've never heard of that okay,
up, and it's new or Danielsor Daniel. Yeah, my vote is
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for Dukes. I do love someDukes. And I actually thought they closed
down because there was a while thatall those restaurants down there were closing because
I think it vulcan over all ofthe property. Yeah, but it might
have well I don't know why.I was gonna make up something, but
I don't know. Yeah, becauseChandler's was going to close because of that,
and I think I might have hadsomething to do with the trains.
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Are the street cars? Oh littlebit in the automobiles? God? I
miss you know what I miss?I missed Joey's. I'll tell you that.
Oh yeah, all the hot youand Steve Sarkisian you both miss it.
It's that Joey's. Jesus, allthe hot chicks at Joey's. Joey's
and Pisso's on Queen Anne. Unbelievable. I've never done not Pissos but the
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one Pesos Pesos. Yeah. Didit close? Oh yeah? Oh man,
so she closed for a long time, long time. God, those
were two just fantastic spots. Didit close because of COVID or did it
close because the Sonics left, uhor was it just a combination of all
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sorts of I think more probably becauseof that area. Yeah, when the
Sonics left, that kind of wentin some dumps. And yeah, it
wasn't it wasn't COVID, it wasit was it was closed before COVID.
Yeah, that's sad. See Ijust never go. Yeah where I like
the place next? No, that'sa lie. I've never been there.
But to loose, to lose,Yeah, that's supposedly really good. Yeah,
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no it is. It is good. Now you because you're an expert,
you're a professional. On you,I want you to tie this all
in to the PGA Championship. Oh, it's really easy. Whoever wins the
PGA Championship, you're going to beeating good. I'll tell you that,
there'd be no question where they'd begoing for dinner because if it was this,
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This damn course is a beast.It is a beast. But I'm
only trying to decide where in Southlike Union to eat, not how to
play. It is a par seventy. It is seven thousand, three hundred
and forty yards, Ashley Ryan.Let me tell you this, it's got
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two par fives that are six hundredand fifteen or more yards. Oh my
goodness. It has seven par foursthat are four hundred and sixty plus yards.
It has two par threes. Nowremember part threes, right, Yeah,
you're supposed to like, bet it'sa birdie. Yeah. They got
two par threes that are two hundredand thirty or more yards. So here's
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what I don't understand though, howis it the east You can just say
like, well, okay, I'mgonna make it a par seventy. But
here, let's watch this, likethere's got to be sort of a limit,
doesn't there The first four holes thisthis is how Ben Hogan called the
number one the toughest opening hole inchampionship golf. Oh we're talking about the
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great one of the greatest players ofall time. This is These are the
first Now I didn't play like thisfor Ben Hogan back in the day,
But the first four holes you openup with a par four four hundred and
sixty yards meat, Oh my,then you get a little bit of a
break. They actually called the wholeThey got whole names, Like everything's got
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a whole name. This is calledbreather. You got a par four,
four hundred and five yards. Butright after breather, you got a par
three two hundred and thirty and thenyou encounter the first par five at six
hundred and fifteen yards. Jesus,good luck. Yeah, have fun,
guys. Well, and so here'sthe thing is you say seven thousand,
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three hundred and forty yards, andeveryone thinks, oh my gosh, that's
long. But let's just give itpeople who are seeing like a realistic comparison.
Here an average, the average lengthof a golf course six thousand,
seven hundred and forty yards. That'saverage. So this one's six hundred yards
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longer. Yeah, and okay,yeah, And I'll just add on to
that is that they're like twenty sevenyards. The fairways are like twenty seven
yards is the distance in the fairwayand in some of the landing spots.
For these guys, it's like twentythree yards. That's that's nothing. And
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they've they've grown up the rough it'slike three inch rough. You're off the
like if you're off the fairway,not accurate, you're toast. Yeah.
I mean the PGA, you know, the PGA of America and separate PGA
Tour, PGA of America different PJAChampionship. PJA of America runs a PJA
Championship for those who don't know theymake it. It's always been a US
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Open light course. This thing islike a US Open. I mean,
this is gonna be a brutal,brutal test for these guys. You need
long, you need accurate, andyou need people a curacy. You need
long, you need distance and acuracy and scrambling. It's this is you
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gotta be if you if you getin this rough, you have to be
strong enough to get it out ofthe rough. If you if you don't
think about there's been a comparison someof the analysis that you read. You
got to think of twenty twenty Wingfoot, which is in a similar area up
in New York of Bryson D.Shambo. The year he won thick it
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was the US Open. But thisis going to play like a US Open
course. Greens are small, itfalls off everywhere. Bunkers are massive.
This thing. There's a video Iretweeted it. It's that wrong Class guy
and there's a whole by whole shotof this place. You gotta watch this
thing. It's like thirteen minutes long. It's just I linked to it and
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said, I think if I'm justgonna be positive, like glass half full,
I think i'd shoot one hundred andthirty. I don't even think i'd
shoot that. I think I thinkit's shoot one hundred and forty, one
hundred and fifty. It's just Imean, it's a person that has shot
that I know I would shoot likein the two hundreds. I mean it
is I yeah, I don't know. It is just brutal. It's a
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brutal test, okay. And it'sso when you well, no, go
ahead and finish first. Oh Ithink I was rambling. I think I'm
good. Yeah, okay, Well, I was just gonna I was just
gonna say so when looking at that, I mean, is there any stat
that you can look at really that'sgonna help you other than just saying like,
okay, pick one of the biggestnames in golf because they're the best,
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Like John Rome's the betting favorite obviously, sure, Justin Thomas defending champion,
and then Scottie Scheffler um or waitno, actually, uh, Scottie
Scheffler's the betting favorite. I believeJohn Rome's second because Scottie Scheffler's seven to
one John Rome's seven and a halfor how's that work? Seven? Yes,
seven a half to one. Imean it's it's there's other you know,
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they they're just the two betting favorites. I mean splitting hairs here.
I mean it goes to distance.I think there's three big things. I
mean there's there's actually a little bitmore than that, but there's there's I
mean three big ones would just bedistance, a curacy, and how are
you out of scrambling? I thinkscrambling is going to be a big thing.
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I mean, I just think thoseare gonna be I mean you could
go to five key stats. Imean strokes gained approach is going to be
a big one. Driving distance ina long and difficult course, strokes gained
on ay, I mean they breakthis stuff down where you can find it
on pgatour dot com that you cando a strokes gain on total on what
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they deem a difficult course? Whatdo they deem a difficult course? Part
seventy over seventy two hundred yards?Which this is it. It's a part
seventy to seventy three hundred yards.Bogey avoidance O my favorite, you love
yourself some Bogue as much as youlike a rose on a sunny day.
Oh maybe more. Really, yeah, because there's no calories with a bogie
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avoidance. Just some giggles. Ithought there weren't calories and rose. I
think that's why I thought that's thereare But I thought that's why you drink
rose. Well, that's calories.You just drink it because it tastes delicious.
I mean good. I mean Ilike a good rose. I do
too, and that you are ona hot day, it's lovely sitting in
the back. Called those porch pounders. Porch pounders, that's what my friend
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Jenna calls them. I have adifferent there's a different image in my mind
of porch pounders. You could doboth. Really, let's be honest.
Sometimes I did use yeah, um, bogie avoidance. And so those are
key stats. So if you lookat a strokes gained just approach. Yeah,
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you look at strokes gained on adifficult golf course, which I just
defined it as a part seventeen oversevent two hundred yards driving distance on a
long a difficult course, long anddifficult course. And bogie avoidance I can
give you if you take that modeland put them all in the VITAMICX.
Yeah, let's do it. Mixthem up. What do you like in
your vitamics by the way, Well, you're a protein powder. Maybe a
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banana, some strawberries, some frozenraspberries. I can dollop a peanut butter.
Funny enough, I've been discussing theimportance of a great blender today and
I don't have a VITAMICX, butI have a nut bullet and I love
it, and I do my proteinshakes in there, and I do a
chocolate protein powder peb fit because thatstuff is good. It tastes like peanut
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butter, ice and water. That'sit. Yeah, okay, so I
try not to complicate it. Imean, it's really fun to make a
lot of fun things. You're smoothie, but then you really just again a
lot of calories. Yeah, allright, we're gonna put that in what
do you call it, the nutrabullet, the nutra bullet. When you
put all those categories in the nutribullet, this is what a gonna pour
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out. Okay, your model withall those stats, this is an order
of top to you know whatever.These are the top players, Yeah,
in order. Scottie Scheffler, JohnRon Patrick, Cantley, Terrell, Hatton's
a Tyrone, Rory Tyrol, Rorymichel Roy, Yes, you're right,
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yep, Victor Hovlin, Joaquin Neeman, the piece of crap, Wyndham Clark,
Tony fen Now, Dustin Johnson,Gary Woodland, and Jordan Spieth.
Oh, which, how do weknow how speece rist is doing? Well?
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He had that KT tape all overit. I mean he's gonna try,
but I don't know I would.I would probably steer clear of him
based on that Rist. But youknow, you know this is why,
because if he gets in the roughand he's hitting out of that stuff that
you think he's going to aggravate it, Yeah, I would think so,
yeah, I'm I'm not touching that. Well, okay, So odds for
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those people that you just discussed rightthere. The favorite Scottie seven to one,
none wrong, seven and a halfto one or is it sure seven
to two that they say? Sometimesthey would say seven and a half to
one. It's oh okay. McElroyis fourteen to one, can't lay sixteen
to one, female twenty two toone, Um Hovelin thirty five to one,
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Hatton thirty five to one. DJthirty five to one. Yeah,
that's I don't understand that one.I don't I don't get it. I
don't understand, say, at thirtyfive to one, I just I can't
believe it's that much. I can'tbelieve it's that big. He's fresh off
just winning at Tulsa. We sawit happen when Brooks one on the Live
Tour and then came to the Major. Yeah, I just again I struggle
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with this because I don't know whatto do. I mean, I have
one guy in mind definitely gonna takebecause I haven't taken him in my league,
you know. And if you're oneof these leagues that where you're in
you want to use a golfer,you can't use them again for them unless
they win. It's you're so temptedto take one of these live guys because
you can't use them in any othertournament. Yeah, you have to use
them in a major. And Ithink what at least what I learned coming
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off the Masters was I put waytoo much thought in God, they haven't
played a lot, they're not goingto be up to championship quality. And
then I was that just proven wrong. Keepka was great Mickelson was great,
Reid had his moments, and soit just kind of kind of blew up
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at least in my analysis. Andmy thought was, I thought those guys
would struggle, and they did not. So I'm with you. The fact
that he's coming off a win,just like Keptka did, I think bodes
well for DJ if you want toput some cheddar out on it, thirty
five to one for him. Yeah, everything I've just described is what are
the keys to winning on this course? He checks every box. He's long
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off the tee, he's got goodaccuracy, he does a good job of
bogey avoidance. You know, lengthand hitting out the rough is not a
problem for him. And he's championshiptested. He's you know, guy's a
major major championship winner and contends allthe time. On that same note,
I would think of brooks Kepco.I mean, look at the what what
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are the majors that he's won?Two US Opens, two PGA. This
is this is a US Open course. And there's there's another stat we get
you later, but there's a greatparallels between the people that win the US
Opens that win the PGA, becausethey, as they said earlier, the
PGA is always kind of considered aUS Open light course. So I mean,
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yeah, I think you could useone of those guys if you had
to. I mean, I justit's hard because you do kind of feel
leery of takeing them. But Ithink you know what Brooks can do,
and you certainly know what DJ cando. And even I'll throw on Patrick
Reid too. He played well withthe Masters. Yeah, I did get
I do see, and I cantalk. You can talk yourself out of
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it so easily, because then hecould say, or did they just all
really level up for that first oneto show everyone I'm still here, and
then it's going to fall off inthis second major. That's you know,
the other concern. Yeah, itwas interesting. I was reading something on
goolf dot com and Brooks was saying, I mean, we're still the same
people. I know, if I'mhealthy, I know I can compete.
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I don't think any of the guysthat played this event thought otherwise. And
then he said, I think that'sjust manufactured by the media that we can't
compete anymore, that we are washedup, which okay, no, the
reason that people are even saying thatyou can't compete anymore or you were washed
up. Is because you literally said, in full swing, I can't compete
with these guys anymore. So true, it wasn't actually manufactured by the media,
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but nobody knew that how injured youwere. So when you say that,
obviously you probably meant it because I'minjured, but nobody knew that.
So you know, these guys though, they use every kind of like little
chip on their should there any typeof slight? Yeah, they just it
doesn't matter what it is. Theyuse it all to motivate them. So
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yeah, I just I won't.I mean, I'm I'm really with three
people right now. I mean it'sit's I haven't used Scottie Scheffler in my
league either, and a lot ofpeople in our league have already used them,
and so it's not available anymore.I'm breaking any news here. I
mean, you're not going to gowrong with taking Scottie Scheffler. I mean
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he's, you know, as aworld number two player in the world.
Yeah, so yeah, or DJor Keepka and I just I bring in
Keepka and DJ just because after thisyou have only two more times you can
use them. Yeah, you usethem at the US open to use them
at the Open Championship and then they'regone. Right, Oh, I do
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think you if you're in that typeof golf league, I think you do
have to kind of factor that in. And again, I I just not
going to fall on that trap thatI did before the Masters that concerned about
how how much or the lack ofplaying for them, Maybe that's actually a
good thing. They don't play allthe time, not tired. Yeah,
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that's true. I think that wasthe one thing though, was, Yeah,
the concern of fifty four holes versusseventy two and how they're not playing.
And you did see Brooks fall offon Sunday, but that doesn't make
any sense because he saw Phil drivethat. You're right, I would,
I would. I'll danswer with youon that one. That that Kepca,
I mean, could have just beena Kepka thing, or or could have
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been some you know that I thinkingback on that, maybe that's some scar
tissue from him on how he finishedbased on nineteen, how he played down
the stretch when he was competing withTiger. Yeah, but you're right,
you counter how Kepka played on Sundaywith Phil and Phil's old and that was
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like his best don't. Yeah,that was something special and makes me annoyed
because that is one person that stillannoys me as fill you don't like it.
Wow, And he's been kind ofhe's been he's been a peach this
week. So yeah, he's heneeds sea a sandwich or two. Um,
yeah, he's what do you thinkhe's on? And because I I
mean, he really is skinny.It's unhealthy skinny. Yeah, it doesn't.
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It looks like he lost way toomuch weight, way too fast.
He didn't. And how do youdo that if it was an illness?
I mean you can easily do itwith like a but how do you do
that? I'm asking for me?How do you lose a lot of weight
really really chattering you? So youcould do thirty ten like what soft you
does. Or you can do ais that the package? Like you basically
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are snorting your food? Is thathow that works? You get to eat
it and mix it with water.Everything mixes. Oh, you mix it
with water because Mark and I didthat once. Okay, And or you
can do an appetite suppressant and thenjust severely limit your calories appetite suppressant or
you take something yeah, oh okay, they sell that at Walgreens. No,
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you have to go to UM.I am only telling you this because
it's actually really easy because Mark andI are on them right now. Okay,
but I'm not We're not like we'relimiting our calories, but not like
to the point of like how manycalories? Do you think? People find
this interesting? And I don't careif you're listening right now on the podcast.
Can we get back to golf?Hey, just time out for a
second. This is me and Ashley. I want to see how many calories
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are eating here. So I'm atthirteen hundred a day. Mark is still
at two thousand and so we're butwe're not trying to lose weight like super
fast. We're trying to lose justlose weight over So I want to lose
it really fast. Can I mixin UM? You could just drop your
calories more and mix in you know, like an illegal drug too, or
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you could. But this is easierand cheaper because if you go through we
go to Northwest Weight Law Center andso it's medically supervised because it is like
a you know it can you haveto like have your heart and blood pressure
checked every month to make sure thatyou're healthy while you're on it, but
if they'll check if your insurance coversit, and then like, the pills
are ten dollars a month, Okay, I'm in. I can afford ten
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bucks Netflix. Yeah exactly, thereyou go. So, Okay, he
needs to eat more. He needsI mean, seriously, he just needs
to eat more. And I'm justwhatever, I'm really down on him.
He got two years ago. We'retalking about one of the greatest stories of
all time. Got two years ago. This guy was the talk of golf.
He was on the biggest stage.He won this tournament, and it
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just seemed all right in the world. You play a few more years,
he graduated, going to broadcasting,and then just blew up and he is
I mean, I don't know.I can't think of another example in sports
where someone was at the height ofpopularity and just you know, well,
you know what I should say.I'm backtrack on that one because I still
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think he is popular with the fans. I don't think the fans care.
I think I think he's lost quitea few fans. Yeah, you think
it's more than we think, oris this kind of more of a immedia
thing. I'm not We're not inthe meat. I guess we're in the
media, I think. But I'ma golf fan and he is. He's
annoyed me. I think if youwere just a golf fan, then you've
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probably soured on Phil. If youare a Mickelson fan, then that's probably
different. But film fans are alsoa little different, are they. Yeah?
I mean because if you were abig philm Nicholson fan before and you
really liked the cheesiness and the soyou're a good with it. Yeah.
Yeah, I was just a tigerguy. Yeah, exactly, a massive
tiger person over here. Um.The interesting thing is, so I was
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looking at one of the websites thatI look at every week, and it
gives you, like, you know, the expert picks. Please don't say
it's CBS. I don't look atCBS and weeks good. But this is
on the PGA Tour on PGA tourdot com. I look at it every
week to see what they're x wordsare saying, and they bring in people
that also contribute to different news outletsand things, and I actually thought I
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was on the wrong week because notone of them picked Scheffler or Ram.
There's a Justin Thomas Shoffley A can'tlay an m another can't lay ohto Sorry?
One did pick John Rams and wasthere any explanation? Um? I
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mean they give a pick, theygive a reason as to like why they
picked the person they did so,so I guess so one of them says
they were trying to save a Scottyusage and holding Ram back for a different
tournament. Um. But then SungJam, fresh off of winning Korea,
perfect stat line for oak Hill.Um can't lay too many arrows pointing in
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the right direction, loaded off thetea and into the greens. Putter also
rings inside the top twenty. Um. Ah. The Shoffley pick a middly
hand handicap. They're handcuffed by thethree start limit, but Xander arrives after
five executive top tens. Yeah.I mean, I I can see not
wanting to take Scheffler because, asI mentioned before, you want to you
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in a league like like ours,and you want and you want to keep
them. But I mean if you'renot and you're just like, let's just
say gambling, you're just putting moneydown. I mean that's why they're the
betting favorite. There's just not aweakness in their game. I may.
Maybe it's one slight thing you couldsay about Scheffler here lately is just his
putting. But I mean, Idon't He's still led almost like every category
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even at the Masters. It justthe putting that that led him down.
So m but he's in all theseall these models and stats of what it's
going to take to win here,he's right there. I just keep having
this argument with myself every time oflike, Okay, I should save Rome,
I should save Scheffler because I havethem both still, I should save
them. I should save them,And then I'm like, what am I
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really saving them for? Though ifit's not a major My only thought that
I can come up with is maybefor the FedEx Cup at the end,
because I always every year when itgets to the FedEx Cup tournaments, I
have nobody because I've used all thebig people. So maybe that's what I'm
in my head doing. But hecut time out. You'll have to edit
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this because you've stopped talking for liketen seconds. Oh so just mark that
now, Okay. So the onlything, yeah, that I can think
of is that I'm saving them forthe FedEx Cup and the FedEx Cup tournaments.
But then I'm like why, Imean, I do run out of
great golfers by the time I getto the FedEx. Well, everybody does.
It's that's why it's miserable, right, And so that's why I'm like,
so do I try to stash oneof them and then see if I
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can dominate it that way? Idon't know. It's very very tricky,
Yeah, I just I mean it'shard. It's hard. I mean,
but that's why I'll go back tothis. I think you have to remember
the live guys are still great golfers, and if they were playing here,
they'd all be top ten golfers.Cam Smith is a object golfer, uh
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read is, so is DJ andso's chemical. I mean you think I
think about that. Those are fourof the top ten players in the world.
Right work is to use them?Yeah? That yeah, So then
you use them and then you keepthe other guys for the FedEx Cup,
and then you use them because they'renot going to be They're not gonna be
there because I'll give you another onewhere I when they designated are defined keep
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saying desn't when they define what along course is again Part seventy over seventy
two hundred yards. Now this modelnow includes if on a course like that
with three inch rough because this iswhat this place is going to have.
You said earlier, like landing orthe fairways are about twenty seven yards wide,
but in the landing spots off thetea, it's like twenty three.
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I mean, that's just not alot at all. The top players and
those conditions are as follows. Andagain it's kind of the same group that
was in that five key stats,but it's Rom's number one. Scheffler can't
Ley Rory, Cameron Young big timeoff the tea, just feels like he's
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waiting to bust through with a win. He plays well these environments, especially
US Open Victor Hovland, another goodUS Open type player, Gary Woodland,
another u US Open winner Matt Fitzpatrick, US Open winner, DJ US Open
winner Keith Mitchell. Kind of loveme some Keith Mitchell. He hits it
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long, but he's has got theaccuracy. And then a Ljoaukee Neeman okay,
so and and this is you start. I know there's going to be
a few few players that you say, wow, there's been a couple no
names that have won. I shouldn'tsay no names, but I guess lesser.
I mean twenty and thirteen, thelast time they had it there,
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Duffner won it. That's his lonemajor, that doff, that gut and
the chew all that twenty thirteen,excuse me, two thousand and three was
a Sean mckeel. But if youlook at the past winners recently, JT
last year, Billed two years ago, Morikawa three years ago, Brooks back
to back, jat again, JimmyWalker, Jason Day, Rory Wow Is
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they're all I don't know what Walkerwas at that time we're talking. Yeah,
they're all top ten players, Yeah, every one of them. Yeah,
I think, yeah, you definitelyneed to pick somebody who's within the
top ten. It's just a matterof how am I going to use those?
Do you know who you're using oryou know what you're doing. I'm
I mean, yeah, I'm I'mwith three of them. It's it's either
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going to be Scheffler, m DJor Kepco and I'm leaning towards probably one
of the of the lived guys.Okay, just of what I've laid out,
we discussed that if you're in ato save a guy, the guys
that are on the PGA Tour.Save them, you know, for later
for the other events, because againwith this and then they open, and
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then the US Open are the USOpen, then the Open, you don't
get to ever use them again.I just don't want to go another year
we can't use them, I know. Yeah, I agree. I would
say I'm obviously rom Scheffler, Johnsonkeptcar my top four, but I am
intrigued by Hoblin because I've seen alot of people mention him. So that
would be an option if I wantedto, you know, not use any
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of those people, but use Yeah, Hable be a great would be a
great player. Yeah. Okay,one question before I let you go.
Okay, if you are the CWnetwork and you're carrying live golf events,
how is it possible that you don'thave it set with live golf? Or
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I guess, if you're live golfand you have a TV contract with c
W, how is it possible thatyou don't have it sent set up that
it will the TV coverage will gostart to finish, no matter how many
extra holes are played. I don'tknow, I don't know how it happens.
I mean, I just I sawthat story, you know, I
haven't watched a single second of it. And it's and not because it's there's
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no like, oh, I'm notgonna I'm not gonna give them my time.
I just they're so out of sight, out of mind. I never
think about it to me, umthat I just don't I don't even know
where to look. I mean,I have streaming, so for YouTube TV,
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I don't and I can. Idon't even I think I have it.
Yeah, but I don't know whereit's at. I mean I just,
you know, can go, Hey, where's the CW network. But
I mean, yeah, the Imean it was so funny to see the
shows that were taking its place.Um, Like one market got Penn and
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Teller. I think it's so importantthat that airs on time. And yeah,
in Brooklyn it was Penn and Teller. A lot of the affiliates they
didn't have like the same thing.Let's see, there was Goldbergs, the
Goldbergs, Um. There was areruns of Blackish okay, Um, there
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was a tape magazine show in theDallas area. Wow. In Birmingham it
was Young Sheldon. Oh. Theycut to the local news. In one
market, um, Arizona CW marketthey had a rerun of SWAT, which
what is swat? Oh, mustbe a probably I would assume a cop
show, like a cop drama.Yeah, and then uh, in Denver
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it was the Big Bang Theory.Modern Family was one. I mean,
it's just just redic shows. Soit wasn't even something new, right exactly.
That's terrible. That is terrible.Last Man Standing. I don't know
what show that isn't it's just funnybecause yeah, it's like they're not even
trying necessarily to make themselves laughable,but they end up being laughable. Yeah.
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I mean it's when you're on anetwork that is you know, it's
just not used to doing sports.I mean, that's just that's what you're
gonna get. So it's too badbecause your conversation you would have is like,
we're not gonna have a designated cutofftime, right? Well yeah,
and yeah, such a compelling finish. It was a three way freud playoff
with YEA with two of your biggeststars and DJ and Cam Smith and my
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guide you. I mean, that'sthat's what you get. They say,
and watch that video that I'm talkingabout about showing this this golf course,
but they say twelve through eighteen kindof defines the golf course. Okay that,
um, it's just you kind of. It's twelve is called Leaning Oak.
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It's a par four three ninety nine. Then you go to a whole
thirteen. Its called Hill of Famepar five six twenty three. The fourteenth
is Bunker Hill, par four threetwenty The plateau is fifteen par five part
three one fifty five, and thenstraightaway as a par four four fifty eight,
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and then the twenties par four fiveh two, and then going home
number eighteen par four four hundred andninety seven yards. The final hole boasts
a fairway of twenty yards wide atthe three hundred yard mark, with three
deep bunkers on the right side andtrees on both sides. The green slope
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severely from back to front and sitsbetween three bunker's right one left. Oh
my god, can you make it? That is the hardest description of a
golf hole I've ever heard in mylife. Number one, it's five hundred
yards part four. And I knowthey hammer the ball, but even if
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they hit it three hundred yards andbecause the conditions are you know, sunday,
I think it's gonna be okay.But you have to land it in
an area of three hundred yards offthe tea in a twenty yard radius,
so you're not in the rough.So let's say you land at three and
yards, you're still two hundred yardsaway into the green. That is a
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severe slope that is going from backall the way to front. So you
better you better clear about two fifteento get it all the way to the
back, or you know two tenantleast. God lord, man, I
mean good, it's just brutal.I'll give you. I'll give you one
last one. I know, andI know we gotta go. But the
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pg we mentioned, we've talked aboutabout the PGA and US Open history that
they just kind of go side byside just because the PGA Championships always kind
of been like a like a lightcourse for a light US Open. So
since two thousand and seventeen, byare that ron class guy. I'm telling
he's the best guy in the business. Get news information from. These are
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the top players in terms of averageFinnish average finish at a PGA Championship US
Open combined since two thou seventeen.Brooks Kepka, the Decie, Xander dj
JT, Reid, Rory Woodland,Paul Casey, and John rom Oh.
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Interesting didn't mention Scheffler. Scheffler's downon that list. Now it's since two
thy seventeen, but so take Imean he kindly came on the scene just
a few years ago. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all
right. Well, I just wantto say thank you for recording this with
me on a Tuesday. Now,I'll remember to get my golf pick in,
get your golf pick in. Yeah, let's go two weeks in a
row. I'm not doing let's screwit up. I won't, I promise.
Let's let's just start there, Like, how far do you go to meet
up with a friend on a weekdayfor dinner? I just don't. I
don't like to leave my neighborhood oncei'm in. I'm in. I think
it's just well I don't either,and especially I live. I mean,
I think here's the issue is howfar do you go and what direction do
you go? Right? Because I'mgoing basically right back to where I left
(00:24):
this morning. Yeah, there's nothere's no good option, no good option
in this area. Yeah. Ithink it just depends on how much you
like the person you like. Youlike them a lot. So you're coming
back down to Seattle, yeah fordinner? Where can we say where we're
going for dinner? Do we notwant to mention that just because we don't
want autograph seekers and fan fan boys? I'd say, yeah, fan boys
(00:45):
fan girls to show up. Yeah, yeah, totes. That's the problem.
Well, you never know. UmNo, we could say where we're
going. That's fine, I don'tcare. We just don't know yet.
So it's either going to be Dukesoh White Swan public house, which I've
never been to in South Aache Union, I've never heard of that okay,
up, and it's new or Danielsor Daniel. Yeah, my vote is
(01:07):
for Dukes. I do love someDukes. And I actually thought they closed
down because there was a while thatall those restaurants down there were closing because
I think it vulcan over all ofthe property. Yeah, but it might
have well I don't know why.I was gonna make up something, but
I don't know. Yeah, becauseChandler's was going to close because of that,
and I think I might have hadsomething to do with the trains.
(01:30):
Are the street cars? Oh littlebit in the automobiles? God? I
miss you know what I miss?I missed Joey's. I'll tell you that.
Oh yeah, all the hot youand Steve Sarkisian you both miss it.
It's that Joey's. Jesus, allthe hot chicks at Joey's. Joey's
and Pisso's on Queen Anne. Unbelievable. I've never done not Pissos but the
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one Pesos Pesos. Yeah. Didit close? Oh yeah? Oh man,
so she closed for a long time, long time. God, those
were two just fantastic spots. Didit close because of COVID or did it
close because the Sonics left, uhor was it just a combination of all
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sorts of I think more probably becauseof that area. Yeah, when the
Sonics left, that kind of wentin some dumps. And yeah, it
wasn't it wasn't COVID, it wasit was it was closed before COVID.
Yeah, that's sad. See Ijust never go. Yeah where I like
the place next? No, that'sa lie. I've never been there.
But to loose, to lose,Yeah, that's supposedly really good. Yeah,
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no it is. It is good. Now you because you're an expert,
you're a professional. On you,I want you to tie this all
in to the PGA Championship. Oh, it's really easy. Whoever wins the
PGA Championship, you're going to beeating good. I'll tell you that,
there'd be no question where they'd begoing for dinner because if it was this,
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This damn course is a beast.It is a beast. But I'm
only trying to decide where in Southlike Union to eat, not how to
play. It is a par seventy. It is seven thousand, three hundred
and forty yards, Ashley Ryan.Let me tell you this, it's got
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two par fives that are six hundredand fifteen or more yards. Oh my
goodness. It has seven par foursthat are four hundred and sixty plus yards.
It has two par threes. Nowremember part threes, right, Yeah,
you're supposed to like, bet it'sa birdie. Yeah. They got
two par threes that are two hundredand thirty or more yards. So here's
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what I don't understand though, howis it the east You can just say
like, well, okay, I'mgonna make it a par seventy. But
here, let's watch this, likethere's got to be sort of a limit,
doesn't there The first four holes thisthis is how Ben Hogan called the
number one the toughest opening hole inchampionship golf. Oh we're talking about the
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great one of the greatest players ofall time. This is These are the
first Now I didn't play like thisfor Ben Hogan back in the day,
But the first four holes you openup with a par four four hundred and
sixty yards meat, Oh my,then you get a little bit of a
break. They actually called the wholeThey got whole names, Like everything's got
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a whole name. This is calledbreather. You got a par four,
four hundred and five yards. Butright after breather, you got a par
three two hundred and thirty and thenyou encounter the first par five at six
hundred and fifteen yards. Jesus,good luck. Yeah, have fun,
guys. Well, and so here'sthe thing is you say seven thousand,
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three hundred and forty yards, andeveryone thinks, oh my gosh, that's
long. But let's just give itpeople who are seeing like a realistic comparison.
Here an average, the average lengthof a golf course six thousand,
seven hundred and forty yards. That'saverage. So this one's six hundred yards
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longer. Yeah, and okay,yeah, And I'll just add on to
that is that they're like twenty sevenyards. The fairways are like twenty seven
yards is the distance in the fairwayand in some of the landing spots.
For these guys, it's like twentythree yards. That's that's nothing. And
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they've they've grown up the rough it'slike three inch rough. You're off the
like if you're off the fairway,not accurate, you're toast. Yeah.
I mean the PGA, you know, the PGA of America and separate PGA
Tour, PGA of America different PJAChampionship. PJA of America runs a PJA
Championship for those who don't know theymake it. It's always been a US
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Open light course. This thing islike a US Open. I mean,
this is gonna be a brutal,brutal test for these guys. You need
long, you need accurate, andyou need people a curacy. You need
long, you need distance and acuracy and scrambling. It's this is you
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gotta be if you if you getin this rough, you have to be
strong enough to get it out ofthe rough. If you if you don't
think about there's been a comparison someof the analysis that you read. You
got to think of twenty twenty Wingfoot, which is in a similar area up
in New York of Bryson D.Shambo. The year he won thick it
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was the US Open. But thisis going to play like a US Open
course. Greens are small, itfalls off everywhere. Bunkers are massive.
This thing. There's a video Iretweeted it. It's that wrong Class guy
and there's a whole by whole shotof this place. You gotta watch this
thing. It's like thirteen minutes long. It's just I linked to it and
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said, I think if I'm justgonna be positive, like glass half full,
I think i'd shoot one hundred andthirty. I don't even think i'd
shoot that. I think I thinkit's shoot one hundred and forty, one
hundred and fifty. It's just Imean, it's a person that has shot
that I know I would shoot likein the two hundreds. I mean it
is I yeah, I don't know. It is just brutal. It's a
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brutal test, okay. And it'sso when you well, no, go
ahead and finish first. Oh Ithink I was rambling. I think I'm
good. Yeah, okay, Well, I was just gonna I was just
gonna say so when looking at that, I mean, is there any stat
that you can look at really that'sgonna help you other than just saying like,
okay, pick one of the biggestnames in golf because they're the best,
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Like John Rome's the betting favorite obviously, sure, Justin Thomas defending champion,
and then Scottie Scheffler um or waitno, actually, uh, Scottie
Scheffler's the betting favorite. I believeJohn Rome's second because Scottie Scheffler's seven to
one John Rome's seven and a halfor how's that work? Seven? Yes,
seven a half to one. Imean it's it's there's other you know,
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they they're just the two betting favorites. I mean splitting hairs here.
I mean it goes to distance.I think there's three big things. I
mean there's there's actually a little bitmore than that, but there's there's I
mean three big ones would just bedistance, a curacy, and how are
you out of scrambling? I thinkscrambling is going to be a big thing.
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I mean, I just think thoseare gonna be I mean you could
go to five key stats. Imean strokes gained approach is going to be
a big one. Driving distance ina long and difficult course, strokes gained
on ay, I mean they breakthis stuff down where you can find it
on pgatour dot com that you cando a strokes gain on total on what
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they deem a difficult course? Whatdo they deem a difficult course? Part
seventy over seventy two hundred yards?Which this is it. It's a part
seventy to seventy three hundred yards.Bogey avoidance O my favorite, you love
yourself some Bogue as much as youlike a rose on a sunny day.
Oh maybe more. Really, yeah, because there's no calories with a bogie
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avoidance. Just some giggles. Ithought there weren't calories and rose. I
think that's why I thought that's thereare But I thought that's why you drink
rose. Well, that's calories.You just drink it because it tastes delicious.
I mean good. I mean Ilike a good rose. I do
too, and that you are ona hot day, it's lovely sitting in
the back. Called those porch pounders. Porch pounders, that's what my friend
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Jenna calls them. I have adifferent there's a different image in my mind
of porch pounders. You could doboth. Really, let's be honest.
Sometimes I did use yeah, um, bogie avoidance. And so those are
key stats. So if you lookat a strokes gained just approach. Yeah,
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you look at strokes gained on adifficult golf course, which I just
defined it as a part seventeen oversevent two hundred yards driving distance on a
long a difficult course, long anddifficult course. And bogie avoidance I can
give you if you take that modeland put them all in the VITAMICX.
Yeah, let's do it. Mixthem up. What do you like in
your vitamics by the way, Well, you're a protein powder. Maybe a
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banana, some strawberries, some frozenraspberries. I can dollop a peanut butter.
Funny enough, I've been discussing theimportance of a great blender today and
I don't have a VITAMICX, butI have a nut bullet and I love
it, and I do my proteinshakes in there, and I do a
chocolate protein powder peb fit because thatstuff is good. It tastes like peanut
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butter, ice and water. That'sit. Yeah, okay, so I
try not to complicate it. Imean, it's really fun to make a
lot of fun things. You're smoothie, but then you really just again a
lot of calories. Yeah, allright, we're gonna put that in what
do you call it, the nutrabullet, the nutra bullet. When you
put all those categories in the nutribullet, this is what a gonna pour
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out. Okay, your model withall those stats, this is an order
of top to you know whatever.These are the top players, Yeah,
in order. Scottie Scheffler, JohnRon Patrick, Cantley, Terrell, Hatton's
a Tyrone, Rory Tyrol, Rorymichel Roy, Yes, you're right,
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yep, Victor Hovlin, Joaquin Neeman, the piece of crap, Wyndham Clark,
Tony fen Now, Dustin Johnson,Gary Woodland, and Jordan Spieth.
Oh, which, how do weknow how speece rist is doing? Well?
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He had that KT tape all overit. I mean he's gonna try,
but I don't know I would.I would probably steer clear of him
based on that Rist. But youknow, you know this is why,
because if he gets in the roughand he's hitting out of that stuff that
you think he's going to aggravate it, Yeah, I would think so,
yeah, I'm I'm not touching that. Well, okay, So odds for
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those people that you just discussed rightthere. The favorite Scottie seven to one,
none wrong, seven and a halfto one or is it sure seven
to two that they say? Sometimesthey would say seven and a half to
one. It's oh okay. McElroyis fourteen to one, can't lay sixteen
to one, female twenty two toone, Um Hovelin thirty five to one,
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Hatton thirty five to one. DJthirty five to one. Yeah,
that's I don't understand that one.I don't I don't get it. I
don't understand, say, at thirtyfive to one, I just I can't
believe it's that much. I can'tbelieve it's that big. He's fresh off
just winning at Tulsa. We sawit happen when Brooks one on the Live
Tour and then came to the Major. Yeah, I just again I struggle
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with this because I don't know whatto do. I mean, I have
one guy in mind definitely gonna takebecause I haven't taken him in my league,
you know. And if you're oneof these leagues that where you're in
you want to use a golfer,you can't use them again for them unless
they win. It's you're so temptedto take one of these live guys because
you can't use them in any othertournament. Yeah, you have to use
them in a major. And Ithink what at least what I learned coming
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off the Masters was I put waytoo much thought in God, they haven't
played a lot, they're not goingto be up to championship quality. And
then I was that just proven wrong. Keepka was great Mickelson was great,
Reid had his moments, and soit just kind of kind of blew up
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at least in my analysis. Andmy thought was, I thought those guys
would struggle, and they did not. So I'm with you. The fact
that he's coming off a win,just like Keptka did, I think bodes
well for DJ if you want toput some cheddar out on it, thirty
five to one for him. Yeah, everything I've just described is what are
the keys to winning on this course? He checks every box. He's long
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off the tee, he's got goodaccuracy, he does a good job of
bogey avoidance. You know, lengthand hitting out the rough is not a
problem for him. And he's championshiptested. He's you know, guy's a
major major championship winner and contends allthe time. On that same note,
I would think of brooks Kepco.I mean, look at the what what
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are the majors that he's won?Two US Opens, two PGA. This
is this is a US Open course. And there's there's another stat we get
you later, but there's a greatparallels between the people that win the US
Opens that win the PGA, becausethey, as they said earlier, the
PGA is always kind of considered aUS Open light course. So I mean,
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yeah, I think you could useone of those guys if you had
to. I mean, I justit's hard because you do kind of feel
leery of takeing them. But Ithink you know what Brooks can do,
and you certainly know what DJ cando. And even I'll throw on Patrick
Reid too. He played well withthe Masters. Yeah, I did get
I do see, and I cantalk. You can talk yourself out of
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it so easily, because then hecould say, or did they just all
really level up for that first oneto show everyone I'm still here, and
then it's going to fall off inthis second major. That's you know,
the other concern. Yeah, itwas interesting. I was reading something on
goolf dot com and Brooks was saying, I mean, we're still the same
people. I know, if I'mhealthy, I know I can compete.
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I don't think any of the guysthat played this event thought otherwise. And
then he said, I think that'sjust manufactured by the media that we can't
compete anymore, that we are washedup, which okay, no, the
reason that people are even saying thatyou can't compete anymore or you were washed
up. Is because you literally said, in full swing, I can't compete
with these guys anymore. So true, it wasn't actually manufactured by the media,
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but nobody knew that how injured youwere. So when you say that,
obviously you probably meant it because I'minjured, but nobody knew that.
So you know, these guys though, they use every kind of like little
chip on their should there any typeof slight? Yeah, they just it
doesn't matter what it is. Theyuse it all to motivate them. So
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yeah, I just I won't.I mean, I'm I'm really with three
people right now. I mean it'sit's I haven't used Scottie Scheffler in my
league either, and a lot ofpeople in our league have already used them,
and so it's not available anymore.I'm breaking any news here. I
mean, you're not going to gowrong with taking Scottie Scheffler. I mean
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he's, you know, as aworld number two player in the world.
Yeah, so yeah, or DJor Keepka and I just I bring in
Keepka and DJ just because after thisyou have only two more times you can
use them. Yeah, you usethem at the US open to use them
at the Open Championship and then they'regone. Right, Oh, I do
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think you if you're in that typeof golf league, I think you do
have to kind of factor that in. And again, I I just not
going to fall on that trap thatI did before the Masters that concerned about
how how much or the lack ofplaying for them, Maybe that's actually a
good thing. They don't play allthe time, not tired. Yeah,
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that's true. I think that wasthe one thing though, was, Yeah,
the concern of fifty four holes versusseventy two and how they're not playing.
And you did see Brooks fall offon Sunday, but that doesn't make
any sense because he saw Phil drivethat. You're right, I would,
I would. I'll danswer with youon that one. That that Kepca,
I mean, could have just beena Kepka thing, or or could have
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been some you know that I thinkingback on that, maybe that's some scar
tissue from him on how he finishedbased on nineteen, how he played down
the stretch when he was competing withTiger. Yeah, but you're right,
you counter how Kepka played on Sundaywith Phil and Phil's old and that was
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like his best don't. Yeah,that was something special and makes me annoyed
because that is one person that stillannoys me as fill you don't like it.
Wow, And he's been kind ofhe's been he's been a peach this
week. So yeah, he's heneeds sea a sandwich or two. Um,
yeah, he's what do you thinkhe's on? And because I I
mean, he really is skinny.It's unhealthy skinny. Yeah, it doesn't.
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It looks like he lost way toomuch weight, way too fast.
He didn't. And how do youdo that if it was an illness?
I mean you can easily do itwith like a but how do you do
that? I'm asking for me?How do you lose a lot of weight
really really chattering you? So youcould do thirty ten like what soft you
does. Or you can do ais that the package? Like you basically
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are snorting your food? Is thathow that works? You get to eat
it and mix it with water.Everything mixes. Oh, you mix it
with water because Mark and I didthat once. Okay, And or you
can do an appetite suppressant and thenjust severely limit your calories appetite suppressant or
you take something yeah, oh okay, they sell that at Walgreens. No,
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you have to go to UM.I am only telling you this because
it's actually really easy because Mark andI are on them right now. Okay,
but I'm not We're not like we'relimiting our calories, but not like
to the point of like how manycalories? Do you think? People find
this interesting? And I don't careif you're listening right now on the podcast.
Can we get back to golf?Hey, just time out for a
second. This is me and Ashley. I want to see how many calories
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are eating here. So I'm atthirteen hundred a day. Mark is still
at two thousand and so we're butwe're not trying to lose weight like super
fast. We're trying to lose justlose weight over So I want to lose
it really fast. Can I mixin UM? You could just drop your
calories more and mix in you know, like an illegal drug too, or
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you could. But this is easierand cheaper because if you go through we
go to Northwest Weight Law Center andso it's medically supervised because it is like
a you know it can you haveto like have your heart and blood pressure
checked every month to make sure thatyou're healthy while you're on it, but
if they'll check if your insurance coversit, and then like, the pills
are ten dollars a month, Okay, I'm in. I can afford ten
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bucks Netflix. Yeah exactly, thereyou go. So, Okay, he
needs to eat more. He needsI mean, seriously, he just needs
to eat more. And I'm justwhatever, I'm really down on him.
He got two years ago. We'retalking about one of the greatest stories of
all time. Got two years ago. This guy was the talk of golf.
He was on the biggest stage.He won this tournament, and it
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just seemed all right in the world. You play a few more years,
he graduated, going to broadcasting,and then just blew up and he is
I mean, I don't know.I can't think of another example in sports
where someone was at the height ofpopularity and just you know, well,
you know what I should say.I'm backtrack on that one because I still
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think he is popular with the fans. I don't think the fans care.
I think I think he's lost quitea few fans. Yeah, you think
it's more than we think, oris this kind of more of a immedia
thing. I'm not We're not inthe meat. I guess we're in the
media, I think. But I'ma golf fan and he is. He's
annoyed me. I think if youwere just a golf fan, then you've
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probably soured on Phil. If youare a Mickelson fan, then that's probably
different. But film fans are alsoa little different, are they. Yeah?
I mean because if you were abig philm Nicholson fan before and you
really liked the cheesiness and the soyou're a good with it. Yeah.
Yeah, I was just a tigerguy. Yeah, exactly, a massive
tiger person over here. Um.The interesting thing is, so I was
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looking at one of the websites thatI look at every week, and it
gives you, like, you know, the expert picks. Please don't say
it's CBS. I don't look atCBS and weeks good. But this is
on the PGA Tour on PGA tourdot com. I look at it every
week to see what they're x wordsare saying, and they bring in people
that also contribute to different news outletsand things, and I actually thought I
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was on the wrong week because notone of them picked Scheffler or Ram.
There's a Justin Thomas Shoffley A can'tlay an m another can't lay ohto Sorry?
One did pick John Rams and wasthere any explanation? Um? I
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mean they give a pick, theygive a reason as to like why they
picked the person they did so,so I guess so one of them says
they were trying to save a Scottyusage and holding Ram back for a different
tournament. Um. But then SungJam, fresh off of winning Korea,
perfect stat line for oak Hill.Um can't lay too many arrows pointing in
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the right direction, loaded off thetea and into the greens. Putter also
rings inside the top twenty. Um. Ah. The Shoffley pick a middly
hand handicap. They're handcuffed by thethree start limit, but Xander arrives after
five executive top tens. Yeah.I mean, I I can see not
wanting to take Scheffler because, asI mentioned before, you want to you
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in a league like like ours,and you want and you want to keep
them. But I mean if you'renot and you're just like, let's just
say gambling, you're just putting moneydown. I mean that's why they're the
betting favorite. There's just not aweakness in their game. I may.
Maybe it's one slight thing you couldsay about Scheffler here lately is just his
putting. But I mean, Idon't He's still led almost like every category
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even at the Masters. It justthe putting that that led him down.
So m but he's in all theseall these models and stats of what it's
going to take to win here,he's right there. I just keep having
this argument with myself every time oflike, Okay, I should save Rome,
I should save Scheffler because I havethem both still, I should save
them. I should save them,And then I'm like, what am I
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really saving them for? Though ifit's not a major My only thought that
I can come up with is maybefor the FedEx Cup at the end,
because I always every year when itgets to the FedEx Cup tournaments, I
have nobody because I've used all thebig people. So maybe that's what I'm
in my head doing. But hecut time out. You'll have to edit
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this because you've stopped talking for liketen seconds. Oh so just mark that
now, Okay. So the onlything, yeah, that I can think
of is that I'm saving them forthe FedEx Cup and the FedEx Cup tournaments.
But then I'm like why, Imean, I do run out of
great golfers by the time I getto the FedEx. Well, everybody does.
It's that's why it's miserable, right, And so that's why I'm like,
so do I try to stash oneof them and then see if I
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can dominate it that way? Idon't know. It's very very tricky,
Yeah, I just I mean it'shard. It's hard. I mean,
but that's why I'll go back tothis. I think you have to remember
the live guys are still great golfers, and if they were playing here,
they'd all be top ten golfers.Cam Smith is a object golfer, uh
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read is, so is DJ andso's chemical. I mean you think I
think about that. Those are fourof the top ten players in the world.
Right work is to use them?Yeah? That yeah, So then
you use them and then you keepthe other guys for the FedEx Cup,
and then you use them because they'renot going to be They're not gonna be
there because I'll give you another onewhere I when they designated are defined keep
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saying desn't when they define what along course is again Part seventy over seventy
two hundred yards. Now this modelnow includes if on a course like that
with three inch rough because this iswhat this place is going to have.
You said earlier, like landing orthe fairways are about twenty seven yards wide,
but in the landing spots off thetea, it's like twenty three.
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I mean, that's just not alot at all. The top players and
those conditions are as follows. Andagain it's kind of the same group that
was in that five key stats,but it's Rom's number one. Scheffler can't
Ley Rory, Cameron Young big timeoff the tea, just feels like he's
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waiting to bust through with a win. He plays well these environments, especially
US Open Victor Hovland, another goodUS Open type player, Gary Woodland,
another u US Open winner Matt Fitzpatrick, US Open winner, DJ US Open
winner Keith Mitchell. Kind of loveme some Keith Mitchell. He hits it
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long, but he's has got theaccuracy. And then a Ljoaukee Neeman okay,
so and and this is you start. I know there's going to be
a few few players that you say, wow, there's been a couple no
names that have won. I shouldn'tsay no names, but I guess lesser.
I mean twenty and thirteen, thelast time they had it there,
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Duffner won it. That's his lonemajor, that doff, that gut and
the chew all that twenty thirteen,excuse me, two thousand and three was
a Sean mckeel. But if youlook at the past winners recently, JT
last year, Billed two years ago, Morikawa three years ago, Brooks back
to back, jat again, JimmyWalker, Jason Day, Rory Wow Is
(27:27):
they're all I don't know what Walkerwas at that time we're talking. Yeah,
they're all top ten players, Yeah, every one of them. Yeah,
I think, yeah, you definitelyneed to pick somebody who's within the
top ten. It's just a matterof how am I going to use those?
Do you know who you're using oryou know what you're doing. I'm
I mean, yeah, I'm I'mwith three of them. It's it's either
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going to be Scheffler, m DJor Kepco and I'm leaning towards probably one
of the of the lived guys.Okay, just of what I've laid out,
we discussed that if you're in ato save a guy, the guys
that are on the PGA Tour.Save them, you know, for later
for the other events, because againwith this and then they open, and
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then the US Open are the USOpen, then the Open, you don't
get to ever use them again.I just don't want to go another year
we can't use them, I know. Yeah, I agree. I would
say I'm obviously rom Scheffler, Johnsonkeptcar my top four, but I am
intrigued by Hoblin because I've seen alot of people mention him. So that
would be an option if I wantedto, you know, not use any
(28:30):
of those people, but use Yeah, Hable be a great would be a
great player. Yeah. Okay,one question before I let you go.
Okay, if you are the CWnetwork and you're carrying live golf events,
how is it possible that you don'thave it set with live golf? Or
(28:52):
I guess, if you're live golfand you have a TV contract with c
W, how is it possible thatyou don't have it sent set up that
it will the TV coverage will gostart to finish, no matter how many
extra holes are played. I don'tknow, I don't know how it happens.
I mean, I just I sawthat story, you know, I
haven't watched a single second of it. And it's and not because it's there's
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no like, oh, I'm notgonna I'm not gonna give them my time.
I just they're so out of sight, out of mind. I never
think about it to me, umthat I just don't I don't even know
where to look. I mean,I have streaming, so for YouTube TV,
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I don't and I can. Idon't even I think I have it.
Yeah, but I don't know whereit's at. I mean I just,
you know, can go, Hey, where's the CW network. But
I mean, yeah, the Imean it was so funny to see the
shows that were taking its place.Um, Like one market got Penn and
(29:56):
Teller. I think it's so importantthat that airs on time. And yeah,
in Brooklyn it was Penn and Teller. A lot of the affiliates they
didn't have like the same thing.Let's see, there was Goldbergs, the
Goldbergs, Um. There was areruns of Blackish okay, Um, there
(30:21):
was a tape magazine show in theDallas area. Wow. In Birmingham it
was Young Sheldon. Oh. Theycut to the local news. In one
market, um, Arizona CW marketthey had a rerun of SWAT, which
what is swat? Oh, mustbe a probably I would assume a cop
show, like a cop drama.Yeah, and then uh, in Denver
(30:47):
it was the Big Bang Theory.Modern Family was one. I mean,
it's just just redic shows. Soit wasn't even something new, right exactly.
That's terrible. That is terrible.Last Man Standing. I don't know
what show that isn't it's just funnybecause yeah, it's like they're not even
trying necessarily to make themselves laughable,but they end up being laughable. Yeah.
(31:11):
I mean it's when you're on anetwork that is you know, it's
just not used to doing sports.I mean, that's just that's what you're
gonna get. So it's too badbecause your conversation you would have is like,
we're not gonna have a designated cutofftime, right? Well yeah,
and yeah, such a compelling finish. It was a three way freud playoff
with YEA with two of your biggeststars and DJ and Cam Smith and my
(31:33):
guide you. I mean, that'sthat's what you get. They say,
and watch that video that I'm talkingabout about showing this this golf course,
but they say twelve through eighteen kindof defines the golf course. Okay that,
um, it's just you kind of. It's twelve is called Leaning Oak.
(31:56):
It's a par four three ninety nine. Then you go to a whole
thirteen. Its called Hill of Famepar five six twenty three. The fourteenth
is Bunker Hill, par four threetwenty The plateau is fifteen par five part
three one fifty five, and thenstraightaway as a par four four fifty eight,
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and then the twenties par four fiveh two, and then going home
number eighteen par four four hundred andninety seven yards. The final hole boasts
a fairway of twenty yards wide atthe three hundred yard mark, with three
deep bunkers on the right side andtrees on both sides. The green slope
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severely from back to front and sitsbetween three bunker's right one left. Oh
my god, can you make it? That is the hardest description of a
golf hole I've ever heard in mylife. Number one, it's five hundred
yards part four. And I knowthey hammer the ball, but even if
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they hit it three hundred yards andbecause the conditions are you know, sunday,
I think it's gonna be okay.But you have to land it in
an area of three hundred yards offthe tea in a twenty yard radius,
so you're not in the rough.So let's say you land at three and
yards, you're still two hundred yardsaway into the green. That is a
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severe slope that is going from backall the way to front. So you
better you better clear about two fifteento get it all the way to the
back, or you know two tenantleast. God lord, man, I
mean good, it's just brutal.I'll give you. I'll give you one
last one. I know, andI know we gotta go. But the
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pg we mentioned, we've talked aboutabout the PGA and US Open history that
they just kind of go side byside just because the PGA Championships always kind
of been like a like a lightcourse for a light US Open. So
since two thousand and seventeen, byare that ron class guy. I'm telling
he's the best guy in the business. Get news information from. These are
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the top players in terms of averageFinnish average finish at a PGA Championship US
Open combined since two thou seventeen.Brooks Kepka, the Decie, Xander dj
JT, Reid, Rory Woodland,Paul Casey, and John rom Oh.
(34:28):
Interesting didn't mention Scheffler. Scheffler's downon that list. Now it's since two
thy seventeen, but so take Imean he kindly came on the scene just
a few years ago. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all
right. Well, I just wantto say thank you for recording this with
me on a Tuesday. Now,I'll remember to get my golf pick in,
get your golf pick in. Yeah, let's go two weeks in a
row. I'm not doing let's screwit up. I won't, I promise.
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