May 24, 2023 • 37 mins
Jason Puckett and Ashley Ryan discuss the storylines of the PGA Championship and look ahead to this week at the Charles Schwab Challenge.
- Brooks Koepka
- LIV Golf
- Michael Block
- Charles Schwab big names and odds
- Our picks
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Well, pocket we did it.We called the winner. Did you pick
him? I didn't. I endedup not taking him. Well, I
was, I mean I was betweentwo of them, but there was a
cat or the third one though,but it was we had Kepka, it
was Keepka, DJ or Scheffler,and so I was leaning towards I had
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kind of taken Scheffler out because wehad talked about using the live guys for
the PJA Championship because you can't,you know, you can't use them anywhere
else. And then it was betweenKepka DJ, and I just went with
DJ, just thinking he's coming offthe win, which we talked about that
it was, yeah, yeah,and I just now wish I would have
went with Brooks Kepka obviously. Yeah, so that was the difference between first
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and tied for fifty fifth. Yes, thank you, thanks for pointing that
out. The interesting thing is tooright there. Yeah, you're welcome number
one. Had you gone with Schefflerobviously, he finished second, so also
quite a better than fifty fifth,Yeah, which is surprising. I know,
it was. I felt DJ hewas at I think it was was
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it the second round or first round? I mean, he was right there
and then he just kind of fella pardon, I don't putter, just
let him down. He was done. Yeah, I don't think it was
bad. It was weird. Youdidn't see him at all, um,
And I was looking through right beforewe started. I wanted to just see
how all the live guys were,not all, but most of the live
guys finished. So Meto Pereira,he's a live guy. He's tied for
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fifteenth. Um we have Patrick Reidwas tied for eighteenth, DJ and fell
both in at T fifty five.Cam Smith tied for ninth, Bryson Deshambeau,
who gave an awkward congratulations to Brooksafter he won T four, and
then Kepta taken home the trophy forthe third Well, what is safe to
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say? And I don't think youknow there's gonna be this like victory app
of people saying so we told youso, because that's just what we like
to do here. And I'll justsay I didn't. I thought they would
struggle in these majors. I alwaysdid, and the Masters and now the
PGA Championship is just an indication thatthose guys are always going to be elite.
And so I really did think thatthey would struggle and not playing more
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of elite competition I think leading upto these tournaments and then you know,
playing fifty four holes rather than playingseventy two. But those guys are just
so dialed in and they're great nomatter if they play seventy two or fifty
four holes. So the fact thatthey have all performed well and both in
the first two majors would signal thatthey'll perform well at the US Open.
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Are they going to perform well atthe Open Championship because they just they're dialed
in, It does seem like,yeah, they're just it's gonna We're set
up for a similar at least,you know, a couple of them in
the top ten for both the nextmajors. And it's interesting because you'd think,
or I guess the one thing maybethat we didn't count, you know,
take into account when we talk abouthow they were gonna how we thought
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they'd fair in these situations. Wekind of gave all the credit to the
PGA Tour side, and this isn'tthis is like not just you and me.
There's a lot of people that dothat that said, like, well,
the PGA Tour is going to beyou know, pissed that these guys
left and went to Live. Sothey're gonna come in, they're gonna show
out, and they're gonna, youknow, show these guys that they shouldn't
have left. And it was it'salmost been the opposite. The PGA tour
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guys are not showing them. TheLive guys are saying, well, we're
going to rise to this competition leveland we're going to show you why what
we did was the right move.And you don't have any like and we're
just you know, it's that levelof competition, Like I'm gonna they're rising
to a different level that I don'tthink people, you know, you can't
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build in that mentality of kind oflike not a revenge but because it's not
like they were kicked out of thePGA Tour, they willingly chose to leave.
But it's like that you know thatI don't know, revenge isn't the
right word, but the right wordis not coming to mind. But you
understand, Dan, I'm sure,yeah, I understand what you're saying.
But I think for every you know, example of Patrick Reid finishing, you
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know, not only had a goodmasters, but had you know what did
the PJA Championship was eighteenth. Yeah, tied for eighteenth. Okay, so
he's you know, talk twenty five. You'll take that every time in a
major. And DJ fifty fifth,but um, you know, cam Smith
was top twenty five obviously, Kepkawins it. De Shambo is third,
right, third or fourth? Fourth? Yeah, tied four fourth, Okay,
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let's just take it. De Shambo, Kepka, DJ, cam Smith
catch agreed if they were playing andhad all the official world Golf rankings,
their top ten players in the world, Yeah, get their top fifteen at
least. Okay, So they're greatplayers. Okay, So where did Sergio
finish? Where did Taylor Gooch finish? Oh? Yeah, about Brandon Grace
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and Charles Howe and Martin Kimer andMatt Jones. And I'm looking at this,
I'm just going down to the list. I mean, Jason Cochrack,
Danny Lee Echolson finished fifty fifth,Mark Leishman, Kevin nah Carlos Ortiz,
Louis U Sayson so, Pat Perez, Pat Perez is irrelevant. Vito Preira
though, okay, he's a goodgolfer. Ian Poulter Schwartzel, Henrik Stenson,
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Cameron Tringali, Harold Varner. Imean, I'm just gonna read the
whole list. Bubba Watson, Imean, so you know Matthew Wolf,
young up and coming player is theafterthought, right, So I think it's
more about those guys who have performedwell. One camp Smith has always performed
well at the Masters, Patrick Gridhas always performed well. Any one one.
PHILM Michelson has won three of them, Dustin right to Kimber when he
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finished in the Masters, but clearlyone one and is comfortable there. Those
courses are different because well that courseis different. Just they played all the
time, so there's gonna be alevel of success. But those guys are
just elite golfers. I don't think, you know, a little narrative coming
out, well see the competitions greaton okay, But I just think for
those guys, they're always going tobe great players. If they didn't play
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it on any tour, but likeplayed and practiced all the time, yeah,
they probably still be good. Ohyeah, And that's what I'm not
saying that, yeah, that thelive in general is, but those guys
are we just didn't I'm saying wedidn't take into account that those top players
that we were like kind of immediatelycounted out, are going to have this
extra like a sense of you knowpurpose. I wanted to get back at
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Yeah, they want to get backat people on the tour. They wanted
to just get back at the criticswho thought that they weren't gonna perform.
Well, I listened, I waswrong about how they would perform, and
and but we talked about it beforethe PGA that I wasn't We weren't going
to say make that same mistake inbreaking them down just because they all performed
quite well at the Masters and justlet you know that they're they're still damn
good golfers. And so you know, my opinion like on Kaepka has changed,
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and it changed with the Netflix seriesand I became a little bit more.
I liked him a little bit morebecause I just think thought he,
more so than any other athlete,was vulnerable and honest and real and didn't
give you a cliche answer and admittedthat he thought his career was over and
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that's why he left. And therewas an extreme amount of rawness to him
in that series and in that episode. So I have a little bit different
appreciation for him, and I justthink he's handled himself differently than some of
the other guys. And I wouldthrow Dustin into that as well. The
rest of him have been a littlearrogant about the move and you know,
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wearing their team colors and their teamoutfits and I think, really disparaging the
PGA tour on their way out.But those two really haven't done that.
No, and I actually would Iwould not put even Dustin with Brooks,
because Dustin did follow the money,but I'm not. I mean, if
someone offered me that money, Ican't say that I would say no.
So it does you know, I'mnot gonna I'm not gonna fall to a
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guy for taking the money. Butwith Brooks, the level of depression that
it seemed like he was in,and the crisis of call or of confidence,
and and just you know, theI've dealt with an injury that literally
hurts every day to get out ofbed, and you start to it.
I mean, there's a reason whywhen you have chronic pain, you go
to the doctor's office and they askyou to fill out each time a level
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of one to ten how to pressyou are that day, Like it really
does weigh on you. So withhim, he is I think on his
own, and I wish that hewould come back to the PGA Tour,
and especially like now that he's gothis swag back a little bit. Yeah,
I would say that the door isprobably open for Brooks Kepka and that
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he may come back eventually, andmaybe especially that he's gonna he's gonna he's
gonna have a child here soon thatmaybe that changes it based on you're not
wanting to fly all over the worldand may want to be more at home.
I don't think Dustin's Did I say, Dustin, I'm in for Kepco
You think I was talking about keptKin. I don't think Dustin's ever coming
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back because I don't think it bothershim in the least at all what anyone
thinks. But I also think hejust the only thing he likes playing is
probably the majors. Yeah, andthen he gets paid all this guaranteed money
to play in a handful of tournaments. Yeah, that's it. And I
don't think he cares at all whatanyone thinks in legacy and stuff like that.
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Now, maybe for keV k thisis actually the perfect thing for him
too. I just kind of alwaysfeel like he might come back. Yeah,
but for Keepka that because all hereally cares all clearly, all he
what the only thing that matters tohim are the majors that the other stuff
is it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. And it's interesting too because even after
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you know, they asked him aboutBryson De Shambo's comments saying that you know,
Kepka's win is a win for livegolf and blah blah blah, and
he was like, it's a winfor me, Like, sure, does
it make live golf look good?Yeah, but I'm I'm worried about myself.
Like he's not doing it like it'slive against the world. He's like,
it's Brooks against the world. Ineed to show all of these guys,
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not just the PGA Tour, butthe live guys too, all of
these guys that I can play again. Yeah, I think I think for
those two and maybe the older playersas well, but I think for those
two this was strictly I just wanta lot of money, And I think
for kep I just want a lotof money because I don't know if I'll
ever be able to play it ata high level. I think for Dust
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I just want a pile of moneyand I kind of want to lounge around.
Yeah. I think for d Shamboand Phil and some of these other
guys that went into and defected,I think for them it's an ego thing.
It's it's a narcissist it's a narcissistreaction, I think to themselves,
but also to the tour that theywant to be these groundbreakers, these innovators,
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and to do something new and fresh, to be trend centers. And
I think for those two it wasjust coming down to dollars and cents,
and one think in a career isover. The other one just just kind
of wants to put his feet upon the count. Yeah, just saying
I want more money, which,again, you put me in that situation.
I can't say that I would sayno. I'd like to think I
would because of where the money's comingfrom, but you never know unless you're
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it's like in your face. Iit did keep because Win has brought up
something interesting, and I heard youand Jim talking about this the other day,
the possibility of him being on theRyder Cup, because he's not technically
eliminated from being on the Ryder Cupjust because he joined Live Golf. It's
because the Ryder Cup is dependent onpoints, correct. Yeah, so he's
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current, Yeah, you gotta yeah, So he's currently he is currently a
second right now, points based onfinishing second at the Masters and then and
then of course winning the PGA.So it's it's two thousand. Let's see,
I gotta remember what it is.It's two thousand. Points are two
points for every thousand dollars earned,Okay, during a major. Wow,
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So if you win it, okay, and then it's a and then it's
a point and a half in everymajor for cut okay, and then it
goes to a certain amount per thousanddollars then and then so those are just
for the majors, and then there'sa couple elevated events. Maybe the WGC
is in there as well, butthese guys can only occur those points during
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the majors. So he has sethimself up perfectly for for the rest of
the season in terms of video performsand shows out at the US Open and
then does it the same thing forthe Open Championship. The rest of the
points comes from the PGA Tour,So these guys that want to play on
it, if they're going to qualifyautomatically, which the top six will qualify
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now as I understand, well,normally the top six would just go because
they qualified. But I still thinkit's up to Zach Johnson, who's the
captain of the US Rider Cup team, do whether or not they will accept
to Live Guys and and APGA PGATour but pg of America decision, which
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oversees the Ryder Cup. And it'salso confusing, it's but PGA of America
oversees the Ryder Cup, but thePGA Tour is involved because you occur all
the points basically through the PGA Tour. So um, yeah, I don't
know what they're gonna do. Ijust I see the argument on both sides.
I really do. And I knoweveryone. You can't do that anymore,
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right, you know everyone's gonna haveone side or the other, which
is ridiculous because there are two sidesto this. Yeah, I think there's
one. Yeah, I think theone side of if I'm the if I'm
the tour and if I'm PGA ofAmerica, I'm the Ryder Cup. I'm
like, hey, they are heis part of a group that is suing
the PGA Tour suing them in courtand we want to allow them to play.
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Yeah, I mean that just seemskind of odd. I think there's
also then legitimizing it, which isa you know, it's a threat to
the tour, which is connected thePG of America, right, And I
think if you allow them to play, at least this is the argument of
the side. If you allow themto play, you are legitimizing them,
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and you're not. You know,the whole point is to not legitimize them,
and then you're gonna do it.Yeah. The flip side of it
would be if he qualifies and he'sclearly one of the best Americans. He's
clearly one of the best twelve Americangolfers. Yeah, and that's yeah,
that's the struggle right there, Himand Dustin there just there's no debate about
that, right and Patrick Reid,the three of them, Yeah, there's
the three best Americans. And butlike they're not going to take Patrick Reid.
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I guarantee that's not going to happen. There's no way Patrick Reid's on
that team. No, no,no, not when I would be like
literally shocked by it because they're notgonna it's he's one of the guys that
has gone out of his way toburn all bridges to be a part of
the lawsuit, put his name onthings to say, this about the tour,
this about you know, everyone involvedthere, there's I don't think any
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chance he'll be on it. Dustin, if he wants to play, he
probably won't qualify for it, buthe could be a Campin's pick and they
all love him. Yeah, everyone of those guys. So, and
I don't really think any of theUS players would mind, other than Patrick
Reed, Well, what do youthink, what would you do? Kind
of the similar thought, Yeah,exactly. Like when I was listening to
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you and Jim talk about it,I was like, man, that does
because at first time I was like, I don't he should be on it.
I mean, he's so good andwe want to win, right like
you want as a United States fansteam USA, you know, I want
to see them succeed in the RyderCup. So selfishly, I'm like,
if you want to win, puthim on the team. But I absolutely
understand the argument that you are legitimizinga tour that is essentially going after the
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PGA Tour, and with the lawsuit, that makes things really tricky. Yeah,
I don't know if I think whatI would do ultimately if I was
Zach Johnson and then I was PGof America, anybody advising what to do,
and I'm sure they're gonna lean onTiger Woods on this one a lot
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too. I would probably because therethere's a board. There's a player's board,
Okay, that's associated the Ryder Cup, and I believe it's Speeth and
Justin Thomas are like the board andthen they go back to and then they
go to the players. Yeah,so they're clearly on the team and we'll
be on the team. I wouldgo to them, and then I would
say, all right, here arethe ten or twelve other guys or here's
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the group we're thinking about taking,and then just do a vote. Yeah
you want Tom in or not?Yeah. That is the thing too,
is you can't have people that nobodywants because then that's just going to make
for an awkward Well, they wantto win, Yeah, they want to
win, and they want to winon that soil. And I don't know
if the top of my head towin the last time, let's see,
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I'll pull up when when you knowthe last time they have won, you
know in Europe, and that's abig deal to them. They want to
win there and they don't. Youknow, it's it's one thing went on
the US soil. That's fun,but it's they want to win there,
right, And so yeah, theywant as many people there is possible and
people that are going to give themthe best chance to win. And clearly
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brooks Kepka gives them that, andyou know, Dustin Johnson to a degree
would also give them that. Yeah, it's going to be interesting Europe.
I don't know what Europe's gonna dowhen they have that one. Yeah,
when do they have to decide about? Yeah, because Europe they have a
lot. When do they have todecide this? When is it? Uh?
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Well, it's the Ryder Cups inSeptember, late September. I mean
they can take you you amass pointsall the way up through the BMW Championship
which is in August twentieth, Soall the way till the end of August
basically, and then time, Ohthey got time that. Oh yeah,
They've got plenty of time for that. Oh yeah. So I'm trying to
think the last time they won ohMan on European soil. I mean you
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got to go back, keep going, keep going right now, Tucky two
thousand and six, Ireland two thousandand four, they got smashed at Oakland
Hills. I mean Jesus, Yeah, so and it'll be I mean,
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imagine this, We've got two moremajors to play. If nineteen, we're
going to nineteen is the last timeDay won on European Soul if I I
mean I did this real quick justlooking at it, so maybe I missed
it, but yeah, Tom Watsonwas a captain they won fifteen to thirteen.
Who was on that team? No, I mean we're talking about led
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by rookie Davis Love, the thirdthat Trian chip Beck and the US victory
capped on the final day by RaymondFloyd. Oh wow, I mean this,
you know ninety three? When wereyou born? I was born in
seventy nine. What about your howI forgot how old they are? Yeah?
You forgot him in five. Yeah, So it's been a it's been
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a it's been a minute. Andyeah, they're they're gonna want the best,
and I would assume I think they'lltake the same approach that you see
the masters do. The majors do, Like, hey, you know,
we're kind of just a year ayear and a half into this thing.
I think we just, you know, we're gonna have to allow him to
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play well, especially as if Kepkafinishes in the top five of the next
two majors, there is no waythey leave him off. Yeah, no,
there's no way. Well, Ithink I think the two you'll make
it. You know, that's abig time cared for him. And then
I think, and then I thinkthey will take Dustin. I think they
will. Okay, well, I'mgonna definitely be interested. I will you
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know. I did call you outto see or call us out on our
picking the win and then seeing ifyou used him. I will let you
know. I also did not useKeepka oh the system. I ended up
using hoblind, So it was notterrible. Oh, but I think I
went from the possibility of making threeand a half million dollars in fantasy winnings
to one and a half. SoI don't think it helped me because I'm
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fairly certain that the majority of peoplein my fantasy league took Keepka. So
yeah, we had a lot ofa lot of people, a lot of
people for sure. Yeah, nowthat people that are kicking themselves would be
the people that used Ram who finishedtied for a fiftieth God. Yeah,
that was that was odd, Likeyou didn't see him at all, No,
he didn't. You saw him likeon Sunday the early when he's in
the early round, You're like,that's just not good to be in the
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early round. Yeah. Then Woodland, Fitzpatrick and Cam Young all missed the
cut. Um. Yeah, itwas that was crazy. And then of
course the other big story that everyonewas talking about from the PGA Championship Michael
Block and just the cool thing tosee a PGA professional because you always,
you know, they like, wehave a friend who plays in the turn
him it to qualify here, andhe was one shot away from making it
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this year, so you like seethe effort and everything that they do.
So to see a PGA professional actuallydo as well as he did is pretty
cool because then you just start tothink, man, Like, for me,
my head immediately went to Derek wasone shot away from making it to
the PGA Championship. Is he apro at your at your club? No,
he's been at Shali, he's beenat Engle, He's been and maybe
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he wasn't at England. He's beenall over and now he he works at
Pacific Northwest Golf Academy. It's likean Issaqua. They've got simulators and cool
stuff like workout stuff. It's likea golfer's dream. Okay, yeah,
yeah, that'd be very it's verycool. It's a very cool story he
delivered. There's no doubt that ifthere's anybody that was an overshadow Kepka,
it was it was him. Yeah. It just it was amazing that he
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was able to do that, Kepkawith the history that he was, you
know, which the history that hecaptured and all that the elite um names
that he is now part of,the elite names that he is a major
away from and then to have thisforty six, Yeah, that to me
is is that he's forty six.Yeah, you know, it's it's almost
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not so much that he's a pgaum professional exactly. Yeah. One,
he's an accomplishment golfer to California wonit. Yeah, he's three four times.
You know, he's a good golfer. The fact that it's that he's
forty six, you know, heshould no way should be competing at that
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golf course. Of how difficult.It was. So if you take away
that he was a PG, justlook at his age and go, how
did you You don't hit it thatfar? And how did you compete?
So yeah, four years away fromthe Senior Tour, which he says he's
not going to join, which maybebut maybe he changes. See now with
it, he's a Colonial this weekand he's at the RBC Canadian. We'll
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see, we'll see what where heends up. Oh, I just ran
my knee into the table. Butwell, that's good. That's good if
you heard that. Can I justI hesitate to say this. I know
there's just something about him I don'tlike and I don't know what it is.
And I feel like it makes mea bad person. No, I
don't think it makes you a badand I don't know what it is.
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It's just there's just there is Idon't know. And I'm a pretty good
judging character. There's just something Idon't know. It's just it's not fishy.
It's just a little off putting withhim and I and I don't know.
You wanted him to almost seem likemore overwhelmed by the moment versus like
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he kind of seemed like I waskind of surprised because he like, I
would have been, first of all, a sobbing mess. That's not a
surprise. I also would have beenlike, you know, like just you
know, overwhelmed, as opposed tolike he kind of he owned the moment.
He really did, like he wasnot afraid to step up and be
like, that's right here, Iam. I overshadowed Rory McElroy, like
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I need to tell the crowd ofquiet. Yeah, I don't know.
It's not that, It's just Iwish I was better with words to describe
it. I there's almost like thisum a little scripted nature to how he
was acting and a guy I hatetalking about this because it's such a feel
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good story and leave it to meto find like the worst in it.
Because I was thinking about this todaythat I'm surprised that we haven't seen someone
go through like his social media historyyet to find out something offensive. He
said, right, like, I'mactually stunned we haven't gone there yet,
because I'll tell I'll guarantee you it'sbeen done, like they've someone has tried
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to find something about him. Oh. He said this when he was thirty
and he was a club professional hecalled women this, or he called you
know this person that. So Iguaranteed that's already been searched because that's how
people are, right. Um,So I'm kind of surprised that he hasn't
had to apologize for something he saidtwenty years ago. I had is a
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valid point, but but really,I don't know, Ash, There's just,
you know, there's something about him. I don't I just I can't
quite put my finger on it thatI don't know if there's this like true
maybe authenticity with him. But hey, have you Russell Wilson vibes just a
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little bit. There's just a littlebit like I wonder if everyone back at
his club who knows him is reallyon board with him. Well, and
I don't know. Yeah, Imean like, hey, I don't think
you're being a jerk. There's justyou're questioning something you can't just know I'm
being a I'm being a jerk.Well for sure, I noticed though.
When I brought it up, Isaid, the story is great because again
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we have kind of discussed this andI didn't want to put you in an
awkward position. It's fine. Ienjoy actually talking about because I guarantee there's
other people to think about it.I just there's you know, but whatever.
But regardless, the story was fun. The I mean to watch the
crowd and Buffalo, Rochester, whateverjust embraced not only him but the whole.
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I mean, that looks like afun place to play a golf turn
it looks fun, looks miserable,um, but aside from the actual courses,
so the place looks great. Youknow, his shot at eighteen to
you know, to get up anddown and it was just remarkable, you
know, to get in there andyou know, finish fifteen and you know,
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to qualify next season. Yeah,it was just it was just a
great, great week of golf,not only his story and just what he
did. But then you know,to watch keptin. You look at Kepkin
now and I mean these these aresome of the notable players he has now
tied with. I mean, hehas now cemented himself as a you know,
in the discussion of a top twenty, top ten all time player.
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I mean, he's now tied withSevy Belostos and Byron Nelson from majors.
At five, he's one one onemore major away from being in the in
the same group as Michelson. NickFaldo and Lee Trevino. He wins one
of them were great golfers. None, No, he wins two more.
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Which what how old is he?Thirty three? Thirty two, thirty three?
Yeah, something like that. Hewins two more, Ashley, this
is who he joins, Arnold Palmer, Sam's Need, Jean Saraz and Bobby
Jones and Harry Varden. So HarryVarden there's a grip named after him.
Yep. Bobby Jones created the Masters, Jean saras and just all time great,
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Sam's Need All Time Great. Andyour daughters named after Arnold Palmer.
Yes, correct, she is.So there you go. I'll have another
child and name him after Brooks.And then he reaches eight ties him with
Tom Watson, he gets the nine. That's Hogan and Gary Player. It's
crazy. And yeah, so heis thirty three and I think, oh,
man, you also it's crazy tothink about the fact that he's won
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five majors. He's also finished runnerup in four. Yeah, top two
and nine majors. It's incredible,it's very Jack Nicholas, it's crazy.
It is crazy. His story isgoing to be really fun to watch this
season, that is for sure,because it's all I mean, I'm taking
them off. I mean, I'vealready locked him in for US Open.
I mean, it's just how Imean, I'm sure I'll talk myself out
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of it somehow. Don't. Let'sjust lock it in now, just lock
in an agreement. We are takingthem okay, all right, I'm going
to look you in the eye andalso wink because I still have to just
kid, come on, do it. I shouldn't. It's the same argument,
right, If we can use thelive golfers, we've got to use
them. But before we get tothe US Open, we've got some other
tournaments like the Charles Schwab Challenge thisweek. Oh the Schwabi. The Schwabi
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longest standing on major at Colonial CountryClub, started there in nineteen forty six.
This purse eight point seven million winnergets a one point five six six
million. You've got like speech Schefflerhovelin Fenale. I mean, just gonna
say it right away. These arenot the people that you should be using
this week, not not on thatwhere it's eight million bucks. No,
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no, no, I wouldn't exlevatedevents these days. I wouldn't. I
wouldn't use one of those. Iwouldn't use one of those top players.
Um, I don't know, Uh, anybody Rose would be a good player,
a good play here if you haven'tused him. And Jess Rose has
played well there. He's coming offa tide ninth at okill Um maybe Sammy
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Burns last week. So that's oneof the things I saw. Max Homa
has been a little bit overlooked.He's he finished T fifty five last week.
Um, but I was just lookingat his results this season. Okay,
so we'll just go back to theFarmers where he won. Okay,
so Farmers first, Phoenix opened Tthirty nine, Genesis second, Arnold Palmer
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T fourteen players, T six,the DGCT nine Masters, T forty three,
missed the cut at the RBC,and Zurich T eight at Wells Fargo
and T fifty five at PGA Championship. I mean, I don't think he
should be overlooked in any way inany tournament. Uh No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't olok him. I wouldn'toverlook Ricky Fowler. I just feel
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like Ricky Fowler's also close to andhe's played well there. He's got seven
top twenties last nine starts there,he's tied for fifth, he's had a
tied for fifth there among top threesor among his three top twenties that he's
had there. So I don't meanRicky Fowler would be another one. Yeah,
I just the price and what you'regonna win there is just not worth
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taking a Scottie Scheffler, right,No, definitely not. I wouldn't not
worth thinking even Jordan's Speef I mean, or Victor Holland. And I wouldn't
take Tony Finale, although the lasttime we did this he did win it.
So I guess there's a pretty solidchance that if you take Tony Finale,
Hi, I mean a guy that'sbeen playing really well right now,
and for some reason, they dowell in these Texas courses. And I
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don't know why. I think maybeit's the sometimes the conditions are the same,
it's the wind is cam Davis,Okay, So Australians do well in
Texas for some reason. I wasgoing to bring him up to you because
the interesting thing is, so ifyou go back to January, American Express
missed the cut that was the firstof one, two, three, four,
five missed cuts in a row.Well, that sounds fun. Yeah.
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Right, then you go to theplayers T six w GC T seventeen,
Valero missed the cut, then Tseven, T fifty nine at Wells
Fargo T four last week So clearlyhe had a what five or six weeks
struggle there, but he was hewas playing as well as anybody else last
weekend. Yeah. And then andyou're right, and then look at I
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mean, that's a great finish forhim, and he was, he tied,
he was seventh there last year.Yeah. Okay, so I did
write him on my list. I'mglad you love me some. Cam Davis.
Yeah, let's get crazy with CamDavis. Right. And then I
have some lesser known names that Ican't read into. Give it to me.
Taylor Moore, Eric Cole, SamStevens, Sammy Stevens, Yeah,
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slinging Sammy. Yeah, those arejust some of the I've never heard of.
Sam Stevens. I'll be honest withyou. Is he a real player
or did you just throw him inthere? No, he's real. I
read about him. I don't knowwhat. I don't remember what hold on
them? Where is he? Oh? Here we go. Uh. He's
a native Texans, so that's probablywhy they liked him, runner up at
Texas Open, t thirty four atthe Byron Nelson, um well, and
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then made the cut last week.Now, I kind of want to look
this guy up here. Hold onwhat I say? His name was Sam
steven Nelson, Sam Stevens, SamStevens. All right, let's look at
his I think you've made him uptwo top tens this year. Um,
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this is fascinating to me. Stopit. Yes, hey, you look
it up. I'm gonna give youa fifty five percent of the shots are
hit from one hundred, one hundredand seventy five yards. Hey, twelve.
The last fifteen winners of ranked inside the top ten for greens and
regulation percentage. Okay, so here'syour top ten. Scottie Schefflerck, Kevin
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You, John, Rob Brendan Steel, Will Gordon, Patrick, Canil,
Colin Morrakawa, Um act Sha Bahitah, Tom Kim, Stephen Yeager. Those
are the top ten. Okay,all right, what doesn't mean everything?
Where's our guy? I don't seemy guy, Cam Davis. I thought
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you were looking for Sam Stevens.I'm not looking Sam Stevens thirty third,
Okay, so here, look lookat it. Than cam Davis. Look
at this, Okay, we're gonnago aging back to January. American Express
finished sixty seventh, Farmers Insurance Tthirteen at and T Pebble Beach T thirty
four, missed the cut at HondaPuerto Rico Open T fifteen, Valspar Cut
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Korles Puntakana T three, Valero TexasOpen second, miss the cut at RBC
and Zurich T forty seven at WellsFargo T thirty four Byronelson and seventy second
last weekend. I mean, Idon't think he's gonna be winning it,
so let's cross him uffle list.You've taken Stevens out already. I well,
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I don't know. I mean,it's interesting because I do like the
Texas factor, but I just don'tknow that that's enough for me to hold
a little Colin Marikalla. I mean, yeah, I saw someone's fading him
and not exactly thrilled there. It'sinteresting though, because I like to always
find these random people and then I'mlike, well, now i feel like
I've said their name. It's inmy head. I should probably do it,
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because like Ryan Fox. But yeah, worked out pretty well for Wyndham
Clark and Ryan Fox has you mighthave been seeing his name more and more
now sure and he's uh. Heand men Wu Kim have received status on
the tour for the rest of theseason. I did see that. I
was like, oh, and Iremember just a couple weeks ago when people
were listening to us and probably andwho the hell is she talking? I
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mean I didn't know. I meanyou have to watch the European Tour to
know who how Ryan Fox is.Yeah. Absolutely, I don't get up
at four in the morning to watchthat degenerate's like Jim mord No, I
don't either. I mean I justread about it. I will say one
other issue, if you were contemplatingokay, Gordon Speef, that risk is
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still questionable, and I agree insomething like this, he's not going to
push it. Yeah, I wouldstay, but you're right, stay away
from him. There's no reason touse him here on this Cam Davis on
a stroke Skin Approach one hundred andthirty fifth, Okay, all right,
yeah, come on, I haveto be bad at that sun of a
gun. I'm seeing Tommy Fleetwood mentioned, and I am seeing one of my
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people on the PGA tour website pickedJustin Rose who you said, So that's
not a let's go Justin Rowe rightnow. In FedEx Cup rankings. Oh,
let me look what it was?One hundred What did I say?
It was the greens in regulation?Hold on, what was it? What
was the percentage from one hundred onehundred and seventy five? Because I want
to look at because they break it. You can get that stat Yeah,
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I just did greens in regulation justoverall, but um, one hundred plus
yards. Let's see if this changesanything. I just want to see if
if that it's probably gonna be thesame players here pretty much? Is that
Kevin you guys number one hundred,one hundred yards or more one hundred plus
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yards Greens in Regulation? Pretty muchthe same name, Steele, Scheffler,
Sepstraka, Gordon Knox, rom King, Brian Harmon, Colin murccount. So
Mark was in there, bunch.I was gonna say, that's but a
very different list. Actually is Ohit's the same list? Not it is
not. No, I'm being serious. There was like six different people on
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that list. I felt like itwas the same. It will be no,
damn it. No. But that'sall right because that shows you too,
different. I don't know. Imean, well, the big names
were still on there. Well,Steel, I mean I looked at one
hundred plus yards just greens and regulationoverall, and then one hundred twenty five
yards one hundred and fifty. Schefflerpops up again, so does Rom Brennan.
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Steel's in there again. That's StephenYeager. Guy, the hell's Stephen
Yeager. He's top ten at allof these things. I mean, Oh,
cam Davis though, way there.Yeah, well, I don't know.
I think I'm still locked on CamDavis. Okay, lock it in.
Let's go Cam Davis, all right? And why because the Australian.
I think Australians are good in Texas. That's literally what I'm going with.
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I think that's great. And also, Sam Stevens, show the world who
you are. Let's go Sam Stevens. Make me look smart. Let's find
out who you are the real one.
Well, pocket we did it.We called the winner. Did you pick
him? I didn't. I endedup not taking him. Well, I
was, I mean I was betweentwo of them, but there was a
cat or the third one though,but it was we had Kepka, it
was Keepka, DJ or Scheffler,and so I was leaning towards I had
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kind of taken Scheffler out because wehad talked about using the live guys for
the PJA Championship because you can't,you know, you can't use them anywhere
else. And then it was betweenKepka DJ, and I just went with
DJ, just thinking he's coming offthe win, which we talked about that
it was, yeah, yeah,and I just now wish I would have
went with Brooks Kepka obviously. Yeah, so that was the difference between first
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and tied for fifty fifth. Yes, thank you, thanks for pointing that
out. The interesting thing is tooright there. Yeah, you're welcome number
one. Had you gone with Schefflerobviously, he finished second, so also
quite a better than fifty fifth,Yeah, which is surprising. I know,
it was. I felt DJ hewas at I think it was was
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it the second round or first round? I mean, he was right there
and then he just kind of fella pardon, I don't putter, just
let him down. He was done. Yeah, I don't think it was
bad. It was weird. Youdidn't see him at all, um,
And I was looking through right beforewe started. I wanted to just see
how all the live guys were,not all, but most of the live
guys finished. So Meto Pereira,he's a live guy. He's tied for
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fifteenth. Um we have Patrick Reidwas tied for eighteenth, DJ and fell
both in at T fifty five.Cam Smith tied for ninth, Bryson Deshambeau,
who gave an awkward congratulations to Brooksafter he won T four, and
then Kepta taken home the trophy forthe third Well, what is safe to
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say? And I don't think youknow there's gonna be this like victory app
of people saying so we told youso, because that's just what we like
to do here. And I'll justsay I didn't. I thought they would
struggle in these majors. I alwaysdid, and the Masters and now the
PGA Championship is just an indication thatthose guys are always going to be elite.
And so I really did think thatthey would struggle and not playing more
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of elite competition I think leading upto these tournaments and then you know,
playing fifty four holes rather than playingseventy two. But those guys are just
so dialed in and they're great nomatter if they play seventy two or fifty
four holes. So the fact thatthey have all performed well and both in
the first two majors would signal thatthey'll perform well at the US Open.
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Are they going to perform well atthe Open Championship because they just they're dialed
in, It does seem like,yeah, they're just it's gonna We're set
up for a similar at least,you know, a couple of them in
the top ten for both the nextmajors. And it's interesting because you'd think,
or I guess the one thing maybethat we didn't count, you know,
take into account when we talk abouthow they were gonna how we thought
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they'd fair in these situations. Wekind of gave all the credit to the
PGA Tour side, and this isn'tthis is like not just you and me.
There's a lot of people that dothat that said, like, well,
the PGA Tour is going to beyou know, pissed that these guys
left and went to Live. Sothey're gonna come in, they're gonna show
out, and they're gonna, youknow, show these guys that they shouldn't
have left. And it was it'salmost been the opposite. The PGA tour
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guys are not showing them. TheLive guys are saying, well, we're
going to rise to this competition leveland we're going to show you why what
we did was the right move.And you don't have any like and we're
just you know, it's that levelof competition, Like I'm gonna they're rising
to a different level that I don'tthink people, you know, you can't
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build in that mentality of kind oflike not a revenge but because it's not
like they were kicked out of thePGA Tour, they willingly chose to leave.
But it's like that you know thatI don't know, revenge isn't the
right word, but the right wordis not coming to mind. But you
understand, Dan, I'm sure,yeah, I understand what you're saying.
But I think for every you know, example of Patrick Reid finishing, you
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know, not only had a goodmasters, but had you know what did
the PJA Championship was eighteenth. Yeah, tied for eighteenth. Okay, so
he's you know, talk twenty five. You'll take that every time in a
major. And DJ fifty fifth,but um, you know, cam Smith
was top twenty five obviously, Kepkawins it. De Shambo is third,
right, third or fourth? Fourth? Yeah, tied four fourth, Okay,
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let's just take it. De Shambo, Kepka, DJ, cam Smith
catch agreed if they were playing andhad all the official world Golf rankings,
their top ten players in the world, Yeah, get their top fifteen at
least. Okay, So they're greatplayers. Okay, So where did Sergio
finish? Where did Taylor Gooch finish? Oh? Yeah, about Brandon Grace
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and Charles Howe and Martin Kimer andMatt Jones. And I'm looking at this,
I'm just going down to the list. I mean, Jason Cochrack,
Danny Lee Echolson finished fifty fifth,Mark Leishman, Kevin nah Carlos Ortiz,
Louis U Sayson so, Pat Perez, Pat Perez is irrelevant. Vito Preira
though, okay, he's a goodgolfer. Ian Poulter Schwartzel, Henrik Stenson,
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Cameron Tringali, Harold Varner. Imean, I'm just gonna read the
whole list. Bubba Watson, Imean, so you know Matthew Wolf,
young up and coming player is theafterthought, right, So I think it's
more about those guys who have performedwell. One camp Smith has always performed
well at the Masters, Patrick Gridhas always performed well. Any one one.
PHILM Michelson has won three of them, Dustin right to Kimber when he
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finished in the Masters, but clearlyone one and is comfortable there. Those
courses are different because well that courseis different. Just they played all the
time, so there's gonna be alevel of success. But those guys are
just elite golfers. I don't think, you know, a little narrative coming
out, well see the competitions greaton okay, But I just think for
those guys, they're always going tobe great players. If they didn't play
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it on any tour, but likeplayed and practiced all the time, yeah,
they probably still be good. Ohyeah, And that's what I'm not
saying that, yeah, that thelive in general is, but those guys
are we just didn't I'm saying wedidn't take into account that those top players
that we were like kind of immediatelycounted out, are going to have this
extra like a sense of you knowpurpose. I wanted to get back at
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Yeah, they want to get backat people on the tour. They wanted
to just get back at the criticswho thought that they weren't gonna perform.
Well, I listened, I waswrong about how they would perform, and
and but we talked about it beforethe PGA that I wasn't We weren't going
to say make that same mistake inbreaking them down just because they all performed
quite well at the Masters and justlet you know that they're they're still damn
good golfers. And so you know, my opinion like on Kaepka has changed,
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and it changed with the Netflix seriesand I became a little bit more.
I liked him a little bit morebecause I just think thought he,
more so than any other athlete,was vulnerable and honest and real and didn't
give you a cliche answer and admittedthat he thought his career was over and
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that's why he left. And therewas an extreme amount of rawness to him
in that series and in that episode. So I have a little bit different
appreciation for him, and I justthink he's handled himself differently than some of
the other guys. And I wouldthrow Dustin into that as well. The
rest of him have been a littlearrogant about the move and you know,
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wearing their team colors and their teamoutfits and I think, really disparaging the
PGA tour on their way out.But those two really haven't done that.
No, and I actually would Iwould not put even Dustin with Brooks,
because Dustin did follow the money,but I'm not. I mean, if
someone offered me that money, Ican't say that I would say no.
So it does you know, I'mnot gonna I'm not gonna fall to a
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guy for taking the money. Butwith Brooks, the level of depression that
it seemed like he was in,and the crisis of call or of confidence,
and and just you know, theI've dealt with an injury that literally
hurts every day to get out ofbed, and you start to it.
I mean, there's a reason whywhen you have chronic pain, you go
to the doctor's office and they askyou to fill out each time a level
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of one to ten how to pressyou are that day, Like it really
does weigh on you. So withhim, he is I think on his
own, and I wish that hewould come back to the PGA Tour,
and especially like now that he's gothis swag back a little bit. Yeah,
I would say that the door isprobably open for Brooks Kepka and that
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he may come back eventually, andmaybe especially that he's gonna he's gonna he's
gonna have a child here soon thatmaybe that changes it based on you're not
wanting to fly all over the worldand may want to be more at home.
I don't think Dustin's Did I say, Dustin, I'm in for Kepco
You think I was talking about keptKin. I don't think Dustin's ever coming
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back because I don't think it bothershim in the least at all what anyone
thinks. But I also think hejust the only thing he likes playing is
probably the majors. Yeah, andthen he gets paid all this guaranteed money
to play in a handful of tournaments. Yeah, that's it. And I
don't think he cares at all whatanyone thinks in legacy and stuff like that.
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Now, maybe for keV k thisis actually the perfect thing for him
too. I just kind of alwaysfeel like he might come back. Yeah,
but for Keepka that because all hereally cares all clearly, all he
what the only thing that matters tohim are the majors that the other stuff
is it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. And it's interesting too because even after
(09:43):
you know, they asked him aboutBryson De Shambo's comments saying that you know,
Kepka's win is a win for livegolf and blah blah blah, and
he was like, it's a winfor me, Like, sure, does
it make live golf look good?Yeah, but I'm I'm worried about myself.
Like he's not doing it like it'slive against the world. He's like,
it's Brooks against the world. Ineed to show all of these guys,
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not just the PGA Tour, butthe live guys too, all of
these guys that I can play again. Yeah, I think I think for
those two and maybe the older playersas well, but I think for those
two this was strictly I just wanta lot of money, And I think
for kep I just want a lotof money because I don't know if I'll
ever be able to play it ata high level. I think for Dust
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I just want a pile of moneyand I kind of want to lounge around.
Yeah. I think for d Shamboand Phil and some of these other
guys that went into and defected,I think for them it's an ego thing.
It's it's a narcissist it's a narcissistreaction, I think to themselves,
but also to the tour that theywant to be these groundbreakers, these innovators,
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and to do something new and fresh, to be trend centers. And
I think for those two it wasjust coming down to dollars and cents,
and one think in a career isover. The other one just just kind
of wants to put his feet upon the count. Yeah, just saying
I want more money, which,again, you put me in that situation.
I can't say that I would sayno. I'd like to think I
would because of where the money's comingfrom, but you never know unless you're
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it's like in your face. Iit did keep because Win has brought up
something interesting, and I heard youand Jim talking about this the other day,
the possibility of him being on theRyder Cup, because he's not technically
eliminated from being on the Ryder Cupjust because he joined Live Golf. It's
because the Ryder Cup is dependent onpoints, correct. Yeah, so he's
(11:28):
current, Yeah, you gotta yeah, So he's currently he is currently a
second right now, points based onfinishing second at the Masters and then and
then of course winning the PGA.So it's it's two thousand. Let's see,
I gotta remember what it is.It's two thousand. Points are two
points for every thousand dollars earned,Okay, during a major. Wow,
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So if you win it, okay, and then it's a and then it's
a point and a half in everymajor for cut okay, and then it
goes to a certain amount per thousanddollars then and then so those are just
for the majors, and then there'sa couple elevated events. Maybe the WGC
is in there as well, butthese guys can only occur those points during
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the majors. So he has sethimself up perfectly for for the rest of
the season in terms of video performsand shows out at the US Open and
then does it the same thing forthe Open Championship. The rest of the
points comes from the PGA Tour,So these guys that want to play on
it, if they're going to qualifyautomatically, which the top six will qualify
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now as I understand, well,normally the top six would just go because
they qualified. But I still thinkit's up to Zach Johnson, who's the
captain of the US Rider Cup team, do whether or not they will accept
to Live Guys and and APGA PGATour but pg of America decision, which
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oversees the Ryder Cup. And it'salso confusing, it's but PGA of America
oversees the Ryder Cup, but thePGA Tour is involved because you occur all
the points basically through the PGA Tour. So um, yeah, I don't
know what they're gonna do. Ijust I see the argument on both sides.
I really do. And I knoweveryone. You can't do that anymore,
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right, you know everyone's gonna haveone side or the other, which
is ridiculous because there are two sidesto this. Yeah, I think there's
one. Yeah, I think theone side of if I'm the if I'm
the tour and if I'm PGA ofAmerica, I'm the Ryder Cup. I'm
like, hey, they are heis part of a group that is suing
the PGA Tour suing them in courtand we want to allow them to play.
(13:50):
Yeah, I mean that just seemskind of odd. I think there's
also then legitimizing it, which isa you know, it's a threat to
the tour, which is connected thePG of America, right, And I
think if you allow them to play, at least this is the argument of
the side. If you allow themto play, you are legitimizing them,
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and you're not. You know,the whole point is to not legitimize them,
and then you're gonna do it.Yeah. The flip side of it
would be if he qualifies and he'sclearly one of the best Americans. He's
clearly one of the best twelve Americangolfers. Yeah, and that's yeah,
that's the struggle right there, Himand Dustin there just there's no debate about
that, right and Patrick Reid,the three of them, Yeah, there's
the three best Americans. And butlike they're not going to take Patrick Reid.
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I guarantee that's not going to happen. There's no way Patrick Reid's on
that team. No, no,no, not when I would be like
literally shocked by it because they're notgonna it's he's one of the guys that
has gone out of his way toburn all bridges to be a part of
the lawsuit, put his name onthings to say, this about the tour,
this about you know, everyone involvedthere, there's I don't think any
(15:00):
chance he'll be on it. Dustin, if he wants to play, he
probably won't qualify for it, buthe could be a Campin's pick and they
all love him. Yeah, everyone of those guys. So, and
I don't really think any of theUS players would mind, other than Patrick
Reed, Well, what do youthink, what would you do? Kind
of the similar thought, Yeah,exactly. Like when I was listening to
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you and Jim talk about it,I was like, man, that does
because at first time I was like, I don't he should be on it.
I mean, he's so good andwe want to win, right like
you want as a United States fansteam USA, you know, I want
to see them succeed in the RyderCup. So selfishly, I'm like,
if you want to win, puthim on the team. But I absolutely
understand the argument that you are legitimizinga tour that is essentially going after the
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PGA Tour, and with the lawsuit, that makes things really tricky. Yeah,
I don't know if I think whatI would do ultimately if I was
Zach Johnson and then I was PGof America, anybody advising what to do,
and I'm sure they're gonna lean onTiger Woods on this one a lot
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too. I would probably because therethere's a board. There's a player's board,
Okay, that's associated the Ryder Cup, and I believe it's Speeth and
Justin Thomas are like the board andthen they go back to and then they
go to the players. Yeah,so they're clearly on the team and we'll
be on the team. I wouldgo to them, and then I would
say, all right, here arethe ten or twelve other guys or here's
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the group we're thinking about taking,and then just do a vote. Yeah
you want Tom in or not?Yeah. That is the thing too,
is you can't have people that nobodywants because then that's just going to make
for an awkward Well, they wantto win, Yeah, they want to
win, and they want to winon that soil. And I don't know
if the top of my head towin the last time, let's see,
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I'll pull up when when you knowthe last time they have won, you
know in Europe, and that's abig deal to them. They want to
win there and they don't. Youknow, it's it's one thing went on
the US soil. That's fun,but it's they want to win there,
right, And so yeah, theywant as many people there is possible and
people that are going to give themthe best chance to win. And clearly
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brooks Kepka gives them that, andyou know, Dustin Johnson to a degree
would also give them that. Yeah, it's going to be interesting Europe.
I don't know what Europe's gonna dowhen they have that one. Yeah,
when do they have to decide about? Yeah, because Europe they have a
lot. When do they have todecide this? When is it? Uh?
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Well, it's the Ryder Cups inSeptember, late September. I mean
they can take you you amass pointsall the way up through the BMW Championship
which is in August twentieth, Soall the way till the end of August
basically, and then time, Ohthey got time that. Oh yeah,
They've got plenty of time for that. Oh yeah. So I'm trying to
think the last time they won ohMan on European soil. I mean you
(18:00):
got to go back, keep going, keep going right now, Tucky two
thousand and six, Ireland two thousandand four, they got smashed at Oakland
Hills. I mean Jesus, Yeah, so and it'll be I mean,
(18:23):
imagine this, We've got two moremajors to play. If nineteen, we're
going to nineteen is the last timeDay won on European Soul if I I
mean I did this real quick justlooking at it, so maybe I missed
it, but yeah, Tom Watsonwas a captain they won fifteen to thirteen.
Who was on that team? No, I mean we're talking about led
(18:48):
by rookie Davis Love, the thirdthat Trian chip Beck and the US victory
capped on the final day by RaymondFloyd. Oh wow, I mean this,
you know ninety three? When wereyou born? I was born in
seventy nine. What about your howI forgot how old they are? Yeah?
You forgot him in five. Yeah, So it's been a it's been
(19:11):
a it's been a minute. Andyeah, they're they're gonna want the best,
and I would assume I think they'lltake the same approach that you see
the masters do. The majors do, Like, hey, you know,
we're kind of just a year ayear and a half into this thing.
I think we just, you know, we're gonna have to allow him to
(19:32):
play well, especially as if Kepkafinishes in the top five of the next
two majors, there is no waythey leave him off. Yeah, no,
there's no way. Well, Ithink I think the two you'll make
it. You know, that's abig time cared for him. And then
I think, and then I thinkthey will take Dustin. I think they
will. Okay, well, I'mgonna definitely be interested. I will you
(19:55):
know. I did call you outto see or call us out on our
picking the win and then seeing ifyou used him. I will let you
know. I also did not useKeepka oh the system. I ended up
using hoblind, So it was notterrible. Oh, but I think I
went from the possibility of making threeand a half million dollars in fantasy winnings
to one and a half. SoI don't think it helped me because I'm
(20:17):
fairly certain that the majority of peoplein my fantasy league took Keepka. So
yeah, we had a lot ofa lot of people, a lot of
people for sure. Yeah, nowthat people that are kicking themselves would be
the people that used Ram who finishedtied for a fiftieth God. Yeah,
that was that was odd, Likeyou didn't see him at all, No,
he didn't. You saw him likeon Sunday the early when he's in
the early round, You're like,that's just not good to be in the
(20:40):
early round. Yeah. Then Woodland, Fitzpatrick and Cam Young all missed the
cut. Um. Yeah, itwas that was crazy. And then of
course the other big story that everyonewas talking about from the PGA Championship Michael
Block and just the cool thing tosee a PGA professional because you always,
you know, they like, wehave a friend who plays in the turn
him it to qualify here, andhe was one shot away from making it
(21:04):
this year, so you like seethe effort and everything that they do.
So to see a PGA professional actuallydo as well as he did is pretty
cool because then you just start tothink, man, Like, for me,
my head immediately went to Derek wasone shot away from making it to
the PGA Championship. Is he apro at your at your club? No,
he's been at Shali, he's beenat Engle, He's been and maybe
(21:29):
he wasn't at England. He's beenall over and now he he works at
Pacific Northwest Golf Academy. It's likean Issaqua. They've got simulators and cool
stuff like workout stuff. It's likea golfer's dream. Okay, yeah,
yeah, that'd be very it's verycool. It's a very cool story he
delivered. There's no doubt that ifthere's anybody that was an overshadow Kepka,
it was it was him. Yeah. It just it was amazing that he
(21:52):
was able to do that, Kepkawith the history that he was, you
know, which the history that hecaptured and all that the elite um names
that he is now part of,the elite names that he is a major
away from and then to have thisforty six, Yeah, that to me
is is that he's forty six.Yeah, you know, it's it's almost
(22:14):
not so much that he's a pgaum professional exactly. Yeah. One,
he's an accomplishment golfer to California wonit. Yeah, he's three four times.
You know, he's a good golfer. The fact that it's that he's
forty six, you know, heshould no way should be competing at that
(22:34):
golf course. Of how difficult.It was. So if you take away
that he was a PG, justlook at his age and go, how
did you You don't hit it thatfar? And how did you compete?
So yeah, four years away fromthe Senior Tour, which he says he's
not going to join, which maybebut maybe he changes. See now with
it, he's a Colonial this weekand he's at the RBC Canadian. We'll
(22:57):
see, we'll see what where heends up. Oh, I just ran
my knee into the table. Butwell, that's good. That's good if
you heard that. Can I justI hesitate to say this. I know
there's just something about him I don'tlike and I don't know what it is.
And I feel like it makes mea bad person. No, I
don't think it makes you a badand I don't know what it is.
(23:17):
It's just there's just there is Idon't know. And I'm a pretty good
judging character. There's just something Idon't know. It's just it's not fishy.
It's just a little off putting withhim and I and I don't know.
You wanted him to almost seem likemore overwhelmed by the moment versus like
(23:38):
he kind of seemed like I waskind of surprised because he like, I
would have been, first of all, a sobbing mess. That's not a
surprise. I also would have beenlike, you know, like just you
know, overwhelmed, as opposed tolike he kind of he owned the moment.
He really did, like he wasnot afraid to step up and be
like, that's right here, Iam. I overshadowed Rory McElroy, like
(24:03):
I need to tell the crowd ofquiet. Yeah, I don't know.
It's not that, It's just Iwish I was better with words to describe
it. I there's almost like thisum a little scripted nature to how he
was acting and a guy I hatetalking about this because it's such a feel
(24:25):
good story and leave it to meto find like the worst in it.
Because I was thinking about this todaythat I'm surprised that we haven't seen someone
go through like his social media historyyet to find out something offensive. He
said, right, like, I'mactually stunned we haven't gone there yet,
because I'll tell I'll guarantee you it'sbeen done, like they've someone has tried
(24:45):
to find something about him. Oh. He said this when he was thirty
and he was a club professional hecalled women this, or he called you
know this person that. So Iguaranteed that's already been searched because that's how
people are, right. Um,So I'm kind of surprised that he hasn't
had to apologize for something he saidtwenty years ago. I had is a
(25:07):
valid point, but but really,I don't know, Ash, There's just,
you know, there's something about him. I don't I just I can't
quite put my finger on it thatI don't know if there's this like true
maybe authenticity with him. But hey, have you Russell Wilson vibes just a
(25:27):
little bit. There's just a littlebit like I wonder if everyone back at
his club who knows him is reallyon board with him. Well, and
I don't know. Yeah, Imean like, hey, I don't think
you're being a jerk. There's justyou're questioning something you can't just know I'm
being a I'm being a jerk.Well for sure, I noticed though.
When I brought it up, Isaid, the story is great because again
(25:49):
we have kind of discussed this andI didn't want to put you in an
awkward position. It's fine. Ienjoy actually talking about because I guarantee there's
other people to think about it.I just there's you know, but whatever.
But regardless, the story was fun. The I mean to watch the
crowd and Buffalo, Rochester, whateverjust embraced not only him but the whole.
(26:10):
I mean, that looks like afun place to play a golf turn
it looks fun, looks miserable,um, but aside from the actual courses,
so the place looks great. Youknow, his shot at eighteen to
you know, to get up anddown and it was just remarkable, you
know, to get in there andyou know, finish fifteen and you know,
(26:30):
to qualify next season. Yeah,it was just it was just a
great, great week of golf,not only his story and just what he
did. But then you know,to watch keptin. You look at Kepkin
now and I mean these these aresome of the notable players he has now
tied with. I mean, hehas now cemented himself as a you know,
in the discussion of a top twenty, top ten all time player.
(26:52):
I mean, he's now tied withSevy Belostos and Byron Nelson from majors.
At five, he's one one onemore major away from being in the in
the same group as Michelson. NickFaldo and Lee Trevino. He wins one
of them were great golfers. None, No, he wins two more.
(27:12):
Which what how old is he?Thirty three? Thirty two, thirty three?
Yeah, something like that. Hewins two more, Ashley, this
is who he joins, Arnold Palmer, Sam's Need, Jean Saraz and Bobby
Jones and Harry Varden. So HarryVarden there's a grip named after him.
Yep. Bobby Jones created the Masters, Jean saras and just all time great,
(27:36):
Sam's Need All Time Great. Andyour daughters named after Arnold Palmer.
Yes, correct, she is.So there you go. I'll have another
child and name him after Brooks.And then he reaches eight ties him with
Tom Watson, he gets the nine. That's Hogan and Gary Player. It's
crazy. And yeah, so heis thirty three and I think, oh,
man, you also it's crazy tothink about the fact that he's won
(28:00):
five majors. He's also finished runnerup in four. Yeah, top two
and nine majors. It's incredible,it's very Jack Nicholas, it's crazy.
It is crazy. His story isgoing to be really fun to watch this
season, that is for sure,because it's all I mean, I'm taking
them off. I mean, I'vealready locked him in for US Open.
I mean, it's just how Imean, I'm sure I'll talk myself out
(28:23):
of it somehow. Don't. Let'sjust lock it in now, just lock
in an agreement. We are takingthem okay, all right, I'm going
to look you in the eye andalso wink because I still have to just
kid, come on, do it. I shouldn't. It's the same argument,
right, If we can use thelive golfers, we've got to use
them. But before we get tothe US Open, we've got some other
tournaments like the Charles Schwab Challenge thisweek. Oh the Schwabi. The Schwabi
(28:48):
longest standing on major at Colonial CountryClub, started there in nineteen forty six.
This purse eight point seven million winnergets a one point five six six
million. You've got like speech Schefflerhovelin Fenale. I mean, just gonna
say it right away. These arenot the people that you should be using
this week, not not on thatwhere it's eight million bucks. No,
(29:11):
no, no, I wouldn't exlevatedevents these days. I wouldn't. I
wouldn't use one of those. Iwouldn't use one of those top players.
Um, I don't know, Uh, anybody Rose would be a good player,
a good play here if you haven'tused him. And Jess Rose has
played well there. He's coming offa tide ninth at okill Um maybe Sammy
(29:32):
Burns last week. So that's oneof the things I saw. Max Homa
has been a little bit overlooked.He's he finished T fifty five last week.
Um, but I was just lookingat his results this season. Okay,
so we'll just go back to theFarmers where he won. Okay,
so Farmers first, Phoenix opened Tthirty nine, Genesis second, Arnold Palmer
(29:56):
T fourteen players, T six,the DGCT nine Masters, T forty three,
missed the cut at the RBC,and Zurich T eight at Wells Fargo
and T fifty five at PGA Championship. I mean, I don't think he
should be overlooked in any way inany tournament. Uh No, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't olok him. I wouldn'toverlook Ricky Fowler. I just feel
(30:18):
like Ricky Fowler's also close to andhe's played well there. He's got seven
top twenties last nine starts there,he's tied for fifth, he's had a
tied for fifth there among top threesor among his three top twenties that he's
had there. So I don't meanRicky Fowler would be another one. Yeah,
I just the price and what you'regonna win there is just not worth
(30:41):
taking a Scottie Scheffler, right,No, definitely not. I wouldn't not
worth thinking even Jordan's Speef I mean, or Victor Holland. And I wouldn't
take Tony Finale, although the lasttime we did this he did win it.
So I guess there's a pretty solidchance that if you take Tony Finale,
Hi, I mean a guy that'sbeen playing really well right now,
and for some reason, they dowell in these Texas courses. And I
(31:06):
don't know why. I think maybeit's the sometimes the conditions are the same,
it's the wind is cam Davis,Okay, So Australians do well in
Texas for some reason. I wasgoing to bring him up to you because
the interesting thing is, so ifyou go back to January, American Express
missed the cut that was the firstof one, two, three, four,
five missed cuts in a row.Well, that sounds fun. Yeah.
(31:29):
Right, then you go to theplayers T six w GC T seventeen,
Valero missed the cut, then Tseven, T fifty nine at Wells
Fargo T four last week So clearlyhe had a what five or six weeks
struggle there, but he was hewas playing as well as anybody else last
weekend. Yeah. And then andyou're right, and then look at I
(31:51):
mean, that's a great finish forhim, and he was, he tied,
he was seventh there last year.Yeah. Okay, so I did
write him on my list. I'mglad you love me some. Cam Davis.
Yeah, let's get crazy with CamDavis. Right. And then I
have some lesser known names that Ican't read into. Give it to me.
Taylor Moore, Eric Cole, SamStevens, Sammy Stevens, Yeah,
(32:14):
slinging Sammy. Yeah, those arejust some of the I've never heard of.
Sam Stevens. I'll be honest withyou. Is he a real player
or did you just throw him inthere? No, he's real. I
read about him. I don't knowwhat. I don't remember what hold on
them? Where is he? Oh? Here we go. Uh. He's
a native Texans, so that's probablywhy they liked him, runner up at
Texas Open, t thirty four atthe Byron Nelson, um well, and
(32:38):
then made the cut last week.Now, I kind of want to look
this guy up here. Hold onwhat I say? His name was Sam
steven Nelson, Sam Stevens, SamStevens. All right, let's look at
his I think you've made him uptwo top tens this year. Um,
(33:00):
this is fascinating to me. Stopit. Yes, hey, you look
it up. I'm gonna give youa fifty five percent of the shots are
hit from one hundred, one hundredand seventy five yards. Hey, twelve.
The last fifteen winners of ranked inside the top ten for greens and
regulation percentage. Okay, so here'syour top ten. Scottie Schefflerck, Kevin
(33:21):
You, John, Rob Brendan Steel, Will Gordon, Patrick, Canil,
Colin Morrakawa, Um act Sha Bahitah, Tom Kim, Stephen Yeager. Those
are the top ten. Okay,all right, what doesn't mean everything?
Where's our guy? I don't seemy guy, Cam Davis. I thought
(33:42):
you were looking for Sam Stevens.I'm not looking Sam Stevens thirty third,
Okay, so here, look lookat it. Than cam Davis. Look
at this, Okay, we're gonnago aging back to January. American Express
finished sixty seventh, Farmers Insurance Tthirteen at and T Pebble Beach T thirty
four, missed the cut at HondaPuerto Rico Open T fifteen, Valspar Cut
(34:04):
Korles Puntakana T three, Valero TexasOpen second, miss the cut at RBC
and Zurich T forty seven at WellsFargo T thirty four Byronelson and seventy second
last weekend. I mean, Idon't think he's gonna be winning it,
so let's cross him uffle list.You've taken Stevens out already. I well,
(34:24):
I don't know. I mean,it's interesting because I do like the
Texas factor, but I just don'tknow that that's enough for me to hold
a little Colin Marikalla. I mean, yeah, I saw someone's fading him
and not exactly thrilled there. It'sinteresting though, because I like to always
find these random people and then I'mlike, well, now i feel like
I've said their name. It's inmy head. I should probably do it,
(34:45):
because like Ryan Fox. But yeah, worked out pretty well for Wyndham
Clark and Ryan Fox has you mighthave been seeing his name more and more
now sure and he's uh. Heand men Wu Kim have received status on
the tour for the rest of theseason. I did see that. I
was like, oh, and Iremember just a couple weeks ago when people
were listening to us and probably andwho the hell is she talking? I
(35:07):
mean I didn't know. I meanyou have to watch the European Tour to
know who how Ryan Fox is.Yeah. Absolutely, I don't get up
at four in the morning to watchthat degenerate's like Jim mord No, I
don't either. I mean I justread about it. I will say one
other issue, if you were contemplatingokay, Gordon Speef, that risk is
(35:27):
still questionable, and I agree insomething like this, he's not going to
push it. Yeah, I wouldstay, but you're right, stay away
from him. There's no reason touse him here on this Cam Davis on
a stroke Skin Approach one hundred andthirty fifth, Okay, all right,
yeah, come on, I haveto be bad at that sun of a
gun. I'm seeing Tommy Fleetwood mentioned, and I am seeing one of my
(35:52):
people on the PGA tour website pickedJustin Rose who you said, So that's
not a let's go Justin Rowe rightnow. In FedEx Cup rankings. Oh,
let me look what it was?One hundred What did I say?
It was the greens in regulation?Hold on, what was it? What
was the percentage from one hundred onehundred and seventy five? Because I want
to look at because they break it. You can get that stat Yeah,
(36:15):
I just did greens in regulation justoverall, but um, one hundred plus
yards. Let's see if this changesanything. I just want to see if
if that it's probably gonna be thesame players here pretty much? Is that
Kevin you guys number one hundred,one hundred yards or more one hundred plus
(36:35):
yards Greens in Regulation? Pretty muchthe same name, Steele, Scheffler,
Sepstraka, Gordon Knox, rom King, Brian Harmon, Colin murccount. So
Mark was in there, bunch.I was gonna say, that's but a
very different list. Actually is Ohit's the same list? Not it is
not. No, I'm being serious. There was like six different people on
(36:57):
that list. I felt like itwas the same. It will be no,
damn it. No. But that'sall right because that shows you too,
different. I don't know. Imean, well, the big names
were still on there. Well,Steel, I mean I looked at one
hundred plus yards just greens and regulationoverall, and then one hundred twenty five
yards one hundred and fifty. Schefflerpops up again, so does Rom Brennan.
(37:21):
Steel's in there again. That's StephenYeager. Guy, the hell's Stephen
Yeager. He's top ten at allof these things. I mean, Oh,
cam Davis though, way there.Yeah, well, I don't know.
I think I'm still locked on CamDavis. Okay, lock it in.
Let's go Cam Davis, all right? And why because the Australian.
I think Australians are good in Texas. That's literally what I'm going with.
(37:45):
I think that's great. And also, Sam Stevens, show the world who
you are. Let's go Sam Stevens. Make me look smart. Let's find
out who you are the real one.
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