May 31, 2023 • 29 mins
Jason Puckett and Ashley Ryan discuss the field for this elevated tour event and debate which favorite to use. Plus, signature items on our tournament wishlist, the results from last week's Charles Schwab and Jack Nicklaus' comments on the LIV golfers.
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My internet connection is unstable? Whywould that be because it's unstable like your
life? How do I how doI stabilize it? Why? No?
So just like my life? Orwere we still talking about my life and
not the internet connection? Non stopfun? You know what else is non
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stop fun? The memorial? CanI think of that? Non stop fun?
Golf courts? Can I have alittle issue with the name of this
tournament, by the way, theJack Nicholas Memorial Tournament. I understand because
it's his tournament. That's what theycall it, though do they people call
it? Yeah? I saw thatwhen I was looking when I was doing
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my research today, and I waslike, okay, I'll plead ignorance on
this one. Yeah no, andI will say it is I have never
heard it called that, And Iwill say it is the Memorial Tournament.
But people will refer to it becauseit is Nicholas's tournament. I'm like,
you gotta be careful how you're sayingit. But they never say it on
the broadcast. They never say it'sthe Jack Nicholas Memorial. It's always the
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Memorial presented by Workday. Oh okay, well that first time I ever heard
about Workday and I'm like, whatthe hell's workday? And then now we
have workday? Yeah, I meanwe've had to work. Yeah, we've
had a while. But yeah,I don't know. The first when I
did the research on my phone,that's what came up, and I was
like, it is not the JackNicholas Memorial Tournament. The man is a
lot. Oh he is not passed. He's still with us in Barbara good
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and thank goodness because we don't needthat. We need to here. I
really want to go to this one. I wish I was a real I
wish I was a PGA Tour player, and really this week okay, so
well why not in the other weeksyou play Augusta, you play all these
other great courses. You know whatthe signature thing is there right at the
Memorial. I do not milkshakes,Oh you do. He's a big milkshake
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guy. Cream. Oh my god, I love ice cream. So that's
kind of like his signature thing.Like you go and have after your round
practice rounds, hitting balls, yougo have a milkshake and he, I
guess apparently just has this huge likemilkshake bar bonanza and he likes he just
him and you know, he justlikes milkshakes and you go and have a
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milkshake with them. Okay, soif you had your own tournament, what
would be your signature thing or wouldyou also have milkshake? I kind of
want to steal milk. Well,if I couldn't involve everything peanut butter.
Yeah, so just anything with peanutbutter on it. Just whatever, peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches, just peanutbutter burger. If you ever put peanut
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butter on a burger. I havenot, but Mark has and he says
it's really good. I'm still nervousabout it. I just started putting an
egg on my burger like in thelast year. Well that's fantastic. I'm
telling you. I just had thisMemorial Day weekend. Speaking of the Memorial
this place we were at had itand it's just perfect. You just peanut
butter with bacon and pickles. It'sgod, it's good. Wow, it's
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unreal how good it is. SoI probably everything peanut so peanut butter burgers
and peanut butter jelly sandwiches, althoughit's never I just have this discussion on
the air. I've never used jellyever. Yeah, I just call it
that but I use jam but okay, a butter milkshakes, yeah, anything,
okay, all right? Yeah?What about you? What would you
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what would your signature be, Imean, aside from wine, rose,
Yeah, a rose or a pinotgrigio. But um what else would I
have? That? A little prosecco? Oh dude, you'd start off it'd
be the three phases of wine.You'd start off with a prosecco in the
morning, have a little rose midround. Do you ever have ever had
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a bubbly rose? Yes? Yeah, that's real good. I want some.
That's dangerous because you can just drinka lot of those. You can
because it's real fast. Yeah,it's just I have so maybe that Maybe
that's it. That's your thing.Rose. Maybe the rose on every hole,
I don't know. I mean therose all day tournament, Rose all
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day tournament. Yeah, that's good. That is a really I like that
idea. You shouldn't start that.Thank you here to raise some money for
some kids. Maybe I will.Um. Also, just real quick to
wrap up this Jack Nicholas Memorial,sure not passed, is not passed?
He still past where I saw itis SB nation dot com. Jack Nicholas
Memorial Tournament. SB Nation staff revealspicks SPI Nation. I can't SPI Nation
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is still around hunt. I meanthat was a big deal, and maybe
not after they tried to kill offJack stop trying to kill off the greatest,
one of the greatest golfers ever nation. We need him here as long
as humanly possible. Yet you're stogether. Do you like milkshakes? And
no, you're lactose intolerant. Aren'tyou not lactose intolerant? I'm actually allergic
to dairy, but the issue isjust in my sinuses, and like milkshake
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not a good thing for you.I mean, I pick and choose because
I'm like, well, you knowwhat, if I want to get a
sinus infection, potentially it's got tobe really good. So you get you
just get plugged up, Yeah,like an actual hour, No bubble guts
anything like that. No, no, just so will you take something like
hey, I'm gonna have I'm puttingmy foot down, or have an ice
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cream? Then I do you takesomething for it before? Okay, I've
never been told that that would work, but maybe I should try that.
See what happens. Do you havea favorite flavor? Oh? So I
just go anything peanut butter with chocolate. Yeah. Like, if I'm going
to dairy Queen, like a blizzard, Oh, I like a blizzard over
a milkshake blizzard for sure, andI'll go resus peanut butter cup or for
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a while they did the peanut butterswirled in there. I don't know if
they still do so good. Ialso do enjoy cookies and cream. Cookies
and creams a good one. Ilike the My second favorite is mint chocolate
chip. Okay, I don't like. I don't like the chocolate chips because
I don't like it when they gethard. I used to love cookie dough.
I know, I used to lovecookie dough. But that one out
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is pretty good. Yeah it is, but it doesn't beat anything with peanut
butter, and it doesn't beat oreoor whatever. Yeah, okay, anyway,
sorry, now I'm really hungry,So hold on my tip of my
protein shake. That's oh, Ilove that good. That's and listener,
she's got a protein shake that's probablyabout sixty four ounces seven eleven. That's
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a thirsty. That's a big gulp. Remember the sixty four ouncer. It's
large. Do they still have thesixty four. I mean, I know
thirty two standard big gulp, butthey used to have the sixty four because
if thirty two ounces of jolt wasn'tenough, let's go sixty four. I
think they. I'm sure they do. Hold on. I think that this
is that's a lot, Jesus,it's this is probably thirty two ounces.
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Good lord, what's in that thing? It's ice, halfway water a quarter
of the way, and then twoscoops of chocolate powder and two scoops of
peb fit. Oh that you lovethe peb fit. It's not the real
thing, but I in it.It works, it tastes buttery. Man,
this is the time we've ever spenttalking about food before. Okay,
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I'll stop, I'll stop. Idon't hate it. I'm not saying that
it's a problem for me. Youknow. It's it's like the Memorial.
Like food, it eats you up. The Memorial will eat you up.
Is that a good transition? Terrible? But I'll you like it? Awful,
awful good. Before though, beforewe get to the Memorial, I
just want to say thank you lastweek because I took your advice. Okay,
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um, we were both going topick cam Davis. Then we both
found out we used him and couldn'tuse him, thank god. Could not
remember that I took him, andthen I remember it was like the first
of all, I think the onethat's in the Palm Desert, Palm Springs.
Yeah, I don't remember, that'swhat I took him out. All
I know is I'm glad I didn'tuse him again. Okay, So no,
Davis, you went with I wentwith Ricky Fowler okay, Yeah,
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and he ended up tied for eight. Yeah, yeah, it was great.
I went with I think I waseight or six with Sammy Burns.
Oh, there you go. Andhe didn't get me anything. For God's
sakes, I mean barely even.I think I went down in my standings.
Oh I didn't think it was possible. But yeah, I guess that
makes sense. Yeah, no one, Yeah, no, it doesn't really
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make sense. How do you Whatdid you think of Ameliano Grillo going in
the playoff? I don't know ifhe saw this. And then he gets
to the playoff, he's on thedriving range, like, screw it,
I don't need to hit a shot. Hey kid, do you want to
come over the rope here and hita couple of shots with my driver.
How sweet was that? It wasso cute. I love it. And
then he's real cute. Karma cameback to him and helped him win.
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Well, you know, at thatpoint you need to hit any more shots.
I can only imagine someone like thatas in a playoff. He doesn't
need to hit any more shots.What's probably eating at him to stept nervous?
He is he's got to wait togo to the playoff. Yeah,
how do you how do you battleit? How do you get over those
nerves? You just kind of lightenthe mood a little bit? And I
thought, that's what That's a realgenius move. I thought on his part
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he did. He clearly didn't hitany more shots. He's fine, but
he lightened the mood to probably relaxhim. Yeah, paid off. I
agree, it was. It waswonderful. More people need to screw their
warm ups and just bring kids in. Just kidding, But I know I
did like it though. Um,And actually I was wrong. Ricky Fowler
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was actually tied with sand Burns forsixth. Even better, Yeah, even
better. And if you picked AdamShank, Harry Hall or Paul Hayley to
finish in the top five, boyare you ever heard of Shank Yes,
never had heard of Harry Hall.What's the amazing thing about golf is you
you devour a lot of it.I think I think we know a lot
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about it and follow it more probablythe average well certainly more than the average
person. Probably that's listening, butor maybe not. But yeah, there's
these all these players out that I'vejust you've never heard of before that you
know, creep up in surprise,and Harry Hall is certain one of them.
He certainly was you know, someoneelse people had never heard of that
we talked about last week. Wegot to see how our boy Sam Stevens
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finished. Yeah, Stevens was everywherehe was. I don't know what happened.
They must have listened to the podcastand been like, we need to
put him on the cover. AndI even saw Stevens now mentioned here.
Oh really, well he did.His second round was a sixty six.
He had a great second round ormay I don't know if I was mentioned
here just in maybe just recapping lastweek, but yeah, good for you
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and Sammy Stevens. I was hopingthat maybe you would take him, but
you didn't. I didn't. Ihad him as my backup I went with
Fowler, and I'm glad I did. But that just means I can use
Sam Stevens a different time. Thereyou go anytime he's available this week an
elevated event. Yeah, and whenI'm thinking elevated event, I'm thinking Sam
Stevens for twenty mill who isn't That'swhat I'm saying. Yeah, I don't
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think I'll use Sam Stevens, butyou'll leave him off, leave him on
the on the bench this week,saving him for the probably Open, right,
Yeah, I need to save uswell, US to Open in two
weeks. Yeah, except I canuse a liv golfer there so that I
probably the cup, Yes, youcan. I don't know. It's gonna
be a good test for the USOpen in two weeks. This is a
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memorial is always a another kind oftester. US Open light course. It's
long and boy, you you getoff the tea at this place, you
again four inch five inch rough,and so you better keep it straight.
I mean, fairways are pretty widehere, thirty three yards wide on the
average. But if you get offa little bit, yeah, I mean
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you're in four inch rough. There'swater everywhere, so it's a tough course.
I mean, this is rated especiallylike the short course or the your
short game, around the around thegreen, shipping putting. This is the
second toughest course on the tour besidesAugustus. So this is it's a good
test for these guys. And youjust look at the past winners and it's
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normally who's who of top players inthe world. Well, I was gonna
say past winners and someone who doesvery well there, Patrick Cantley. So
he's an obvious favorite. I mean, not that he shouldn't be in any
tournament. He's a very good golftwo time winner of it. I mean
t ten to one odds, andwe've we look at him, is long
and pretty accurate off the tea andyeah and things like that. So and
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now he's a Jolakava and then JoeLacava. Yeah, I mean it's you
look at the odds on this one, it's it's all the heavyweight Scheffler the
odds on favorite with Ram and thencan't lay and Rory and Xanders at fourteen
to one, Hovelin is at twentyto one, more cow is at twenty
two to one. I can't believethat you can get you know, major
champion winners like Speef at thirty toone and JT at thirty to one.
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That just blows me away, itreally, but great value for those for
those two guys. Yeah, youknow whose name actually that. I'm seeing
a lot that is not in thetop one of those top guys. Saw
Heath or saw him, sorry,saw him see Gala Okay, yeah,
and he's fifty to one, Ibelieve. But I saw him on my
PGA Toured Expert page that I alwayslook at, Love the Expert page.
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Three or four people brought him upand I was like, wow, that's
kind of surprising, I would think, but I love a little saw Hith.
Yeah, this's gonna be tough one. It's been tough one. The
chipping is short, the short grass. I mentioned that the hardest one tour.
It's got the third toughest part three. There all their par threes minus
one or over two hundred yards oftheir shortest Part three is one hundred and
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eighty yards, So I mean that'sgonna be difficult. It's got the eighth
toughest part four scoring on the PGAto our think seventh toughest part five.
I mean you look at the finishingholes sixteen, seventeen eighteen, you're going
a par three. That's two hundredplus yards over water. Fun you gotta
Then seventeen is a long part foureighty five, which is difficult, it's
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narrow, and then the finishing holesanother part four four eighty it's dog leg,
an uphill dog leg that you gotto navigate a bunch of hazards around
that. So you know that's athat's gonna be an amazing finish. It
always is an amazing finish for themost part. There we've seen some great
finishes over the year, especially withTiger five time winner and all that.
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So you would you would love toknow that some of the key statistics would
be good driving percentage. Obviously scramblingfrom the rough. Another good one strokes
gained approach, strokes gained approach tothe green. And then another good one
is bogie avoidance. Oh my favorite. I knew you like bogie avoidance.
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It's kind of one of your favorites, it is. But the key to
this course is to avoid bogie's.Hey, you know what, After you
came on the show and we discussedbogie avoidance, then Bucky started using bogie
avoidance yea his thing, and Iwas like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
bro, Sure you can steal mybogie avoidance. You keep listen,
he can. Anyone can use it, but bogie avoidance. I'm telling you
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credit the nineteenth Whole Podcast. Numberone player and bogie avoidance. Who is
it? Who is it? Drumroll but Scott Stevens. No, Scottie
Stevens. He's a Stevens. Idon't even know his name. Scottie Scheffler.
Surprise, let me guess. Sothe guy that has won the most
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on the tour this year, numberone player in the world, is also
number one in bogie avoids. Youdon't say so. Is that why all
fourteen his last fourteen starts, he'sbeen t twelve or better because he avoids
bg Okay, that makes sense.Day is number two. Coaches number three,
Brian Harmon three, Tom Kim five, Putnam six, Rom seven,
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can't lay nine, Shaflate ten.Okay. So what it tells you a
listener here, if you're just wonderinghow does golf work? If you avoid
bogie's, normally you're going to shootpretty well. That's the key. Yeah,
so's it's like it's bogie avoidance orbirdie acceptance. Yes, yeah,
yeah, what it does, whatit does show and if you can cross
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reference it bogie avoidance with another favoriteis three put avoidance. Scheffler's number three
in that category, Okay, Andit's serious, it really is. I
mean, the difference between these championswinning this stuff is just a couple of
shots here and there each round andthe golfers that can avoid three putting.
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No, when you save a paror you know, sometimes you save a
bogee right, right, just hey, sometimes a bogey's okay and it's not
getting the double bogeye right. SoScheffler's obviously good with that stuff, and
and that's why he's kind of he'stop ten or top five of both of
those. Okay, Um, doyou have a favorite of who you like
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this week? I'm gonna go ona limit. I'm gonna pull the trigger
on Scottie Scheffler. Yeah, that'sa yeah. This course he has got
he has got the most reminiscent swing. It feels like Jack Nicholas and Jack
Nicholas designed this course basically based onhim, and that is it is always
favored a player with a high ballflight and someone who goes who fades the
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ball, who goes left to right, okay, and Scottie Scheffler does both
hits a sky high and fades theball. Okay. So I mean I
think Justin Thomas, even though IThomas's track record here isn't great, I
think he has a top I thinkhe has a fourth finish a while ago.
But I think you know that's whyTiger finished won this thing five times.
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Yeah, because he hits the ballsky high. Now he can shape
it anyway once, but that powerfade, that high fade that he could
execute. UM would always favorite favoriteplayers here. So I would look at
somebody who and there's probably a statout there, but someone that hits the
ball super high and can fade theball, those are gonna be guys that
that are going to be obviously incontention this week. And I don't know.
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Maybe that that's why Fenwe is notplaying this week because Phenewe doesn't really
have that that type of swing,but he's not playing this week. Okay,
But you know that's who I'm gonnago with. It's it's put up
a shut up time I need towin. Yeah, well, and that's
what my thought is too, SoI think I'm actually going to pull the
trigger, and I was gonna goJohn Ram, but now wrong. We
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can do it, Yeah he can. But this is the problem is that
then one of us doesn't win andthen it's not worth it. Well,
yeah, that's true. But Ithink if you take out the stret if
you take the strategy, have takena live guys here in the two last
two majors, then the only thingyou're saving him for is no end of
the year. Yeah. I don'tknow. It's just every time it comes
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time to do it, I getso nervous. And he didn't play well
last week. He did not lastweek? Yeah, but um they I
was reading like the putting and thingsshouldn't that he had issues with last week
won't be as much of an issuehere. I don't know, because I
guess the greens were really difficult lastweek. Well besides, Okay, so
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besides besides the US Open, acouple of weeks of the LA Country Club,
you'll have another expanded not elevated theTravelers in Connecticut, and then you
got the Open Championship, which willbe another a big purse to come up
in July. But we don't getanother Elevated Tournament. We don't get it
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until the fed X. Oh really, yeah, because then you get the
FedEx, you get the Saint Jude, the BMW, and the Tour Championship.
The last three. Okay, soyour hope is you'll win it and
you can pull them back. ButI mean, this is it. Unless
you're gonna say them back, usethem, that's it. So well,
then then you can save them forthe final three and make a make a
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push for the for the last whichis not it's not a bad strategy to
do. But I will have Scheffleravailable too, see I have well yeah
I haven't. Yeah, if you'vegot Scheffler available, I mean, or
you want to decide between Sheffler andRahm, I would just maybe keep one
of them to say, hey,I'm going to roll it. Yeah,
because clearly those last three you youneed a top ten player, yeah,
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and a heavyweight for them. Ijust don't want to pick the wrong one.
That's my problem. Well that's obviously, so instead I get so nervous,
so I just don't use either ofthem because I don't want to use
one at the wrong time and thenthey don't win or they have a crappy
week. Oh, it's welcome tothe world. I know, picking golfers
it's hard. It's a crab shoot, you roll the dice and you go.
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I know. And I don't stressabout anybody else other than those two.
Well, because you just if it'sthat week, Yeah, it's that
week, that would just would justdrive you absolute nuts. I know,
that's all right. Maybe I'll justclose my eyes and throw a dart.
Oh you could do that, althoughyou shouldn't close your eyes and throw a
dart. Let's be honest. Youshould probably just throw the dart. Yeah,
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because well you other guys, Imean, there's other players you could
use there, I mean strokes gamesapproach, which I said, there's like
three big categories. Strokes gained approach, scrambling rough and the good drive a
percentage out of the rough. Andthen you can also just on a fourth
probably just driving a courtacy. Yeah, a courtacy down of the middle is
always good in golf, just likebogie avoids it is. But yeah,
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if you can hit a fairway,that's more beneficial, it is, and
then dust avoid the bogies. Sostrokes gain approach it's more Kawas Scheffler Romsander,
Rory Fowler and then scrambling from therough Scheffler's eighth. Hobbling is six
in that category. And then youcan just if you look at I'll pull
up the driving a curacy and giveyou the and give you that one,
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which would be another one that wouldbe you know, obviously pretty telling this
week. I mean, Henley's numberone, take him out. I'm just
trying. Let me scroll down tofind more cow is gonna be seventh overall,
can't Ley's ninth, and again thisis why can't Ley's one twice there
and he's always been a factor.Scheffler's twenty second. So I mean,
certainly all good number the rough tendency. One looked at this earlier. Nothing
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really stands out of this one offthe tee against some familiar names that are
up there that you would that Ijust mentioned more cows again ninth than that
one, so again he would besuccessful or soho. Last year's champion is
thirteenth in that category. Keith Mitchell, who just drives it long and straight,
is up there as well. SoI mean more cowib certainly shows up
a lot on all the metrics.That's yeah, I was actually going to
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ask you about him, who's twentyfive to one, and I saw gained
nearly twenty four strokes to the fieldin the ball striking categories. Yeah,
it would be a great pick,Absolutely great pick. Yeah, and then
can't lay has gained two point onenine strokes per round from t to green,
so that's second only two Scottie Scheffler. It seems like this would be
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a great course for Justin Thomas.But but again, for whatever reason,
he hasn't. He hasn't dominated thereas much that you would think that he
would. Yeah, I want toI'm trying to find his results there because
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I know he's been a fourth therebefore. But again, he is six
of his last six of the seventop six of the seven elevated events,
he's been top twenty five, whichis good. Three top tens in his
last six starts at Merefield, sohe's better. He's better than I thought.
I'm just trying to think as highestfinish. I think his fourth at
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the more Moral, but again hehits it sky high and moves it left
or right, so he didn't seememorial less. We'll see two years ago
with him, and he just elevateshis game in the elevated events. He
was He was forty second two yearsago in it, and then back in
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for two nineteen he was eighteen,So it's it's been a minute since he's
he's contended there, but guide youjust kind of when then he was cut
back in nineteen. But you justkind of close your eyes of someone who
hits the ball high and moves itleft to right, and that's him,
and he's here's the other thing abouthim too. He is fifth on the
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PGA it strokes gained around the green. We just said around the green is
vital at this golf course. SoI is another person he was tied for
eight back in eighteens. Another personI would kind of circle and sometimes stats,
all these stats are gonna be misleading. And Justin Thomas is hot and
ready to go this week, thenhe should be a factor in it,
even though despite his odds being thirtyto one. Well and then um,
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just I was can't lay obviously,as we mentioned earlier as one twice um
in the last four years. Sorrymy protein shake is making me hiccup.
Well sure, yeah, one twicein the last four years. But he
also has four top four finishes inhis last five trips. So yeah,
yeah, I mean the thing,I've already used him. I can't use
him, but I boyd in this. Now you got me, Maybe maybe
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I should reverse course and take himI know, right, Um, yeah,
I've already used him. And thenalso just to correct myself earlier,
I was saying that Rom struggled puttinglast week. It was two weeks ago.
I don't know my time. Wellit's okay, two weeks ago,
one week, and I'll you knowwhat I was. I was vibing foot
you were selling. Hey, thankyou, and I appreciate that. One
thing I wanted to ask you ifyou saw Jack Nicholas's comments. They asked
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him about having a memorial tournament withoutBrooks Kepka and Cam Smith and stuff,
and he said, I don't evenconsider those guys part of the game anymore.
What do you think about that?Well, I mean I understand,
yeah, I mean he's hurt bywhat they did. I mean, he
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and Palmer and all these guys wereso vital to create the PGA Tour.
I mean they created it. AndI was about mute. Sorry, yes
they did. You were correct,and they you know, now you have
a group that is decided it's notgood enough. Yeah, ranched out to
their to form another league. Sohe looks as a slap in the face
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and slap in the face, andI totally get that. I would understand
where he is coming from, howhe feels that way. And it's the
blowback that these guys will get froma player of his stature and also Tiger
Woods and others, and it's somethingthey've had to come to a realization and
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take head on and accept it.But I think they probably look at their
bank account and go, Okay,yeah, we're fine. It doesn't matter.
And I think for Kiepka it doesn'tmatter. I should say for his
full comment, it was I don'teven consider those guys part of the game
anymore. I don't mean that ina nasty way. This is a PGA
Tour event and we have the bestfield we can possibly have for those who
are eligible to be here. Theother guys made a choice of what they
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did and where they've gone, andwe don't even talk about it. It's
just where they chose to play golf. I wish them all well. So
it wasn't like he was trying tobe a jerk, but I agree with
what you're saying, Like for them, I think it has to be especially
hard. Like the people that areplaying right now that are on the PGA
Tour and the Live Tour that arelike you know Callie or you know Peers,
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Yeah, they could be hurt orspurned or whatever. But yeah,
it is those guys that created thetour that are probably a little bit more
a lot of blood, sweat andtears that I think Jack and Palmer and
those guys put in to this tomake it fair, inequitable and all of
that. But and then to havea group led by Norman who was one
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of them, yeah, you know, splinter away and try to fracture something
that they built, I think hasgot to be very resentful and hurtful for
them. Yeah, I think atthe same time, I would hope they
would probably acknowledge some of the thingsthat you know, these players were asking
for, which they now on thePGA Tour of have come around to facilitate
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to these players and give to themsome of these things that they've been asking
for and wanting. But yeah,when you threaten something that you built and
put your life's work into, ofcourse you're going to be bothered. And
hurt by it. And I dothink some of those guys, some of
those top players, probably this isone of the tournaments that they probably miss
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Yeah, I can see that.I don't think they miss the Colonial.
I don't think that they miss RocketMortgage, but I think they missed this.
I think they missed the players.Um, you know a couple of
the ones that have kind of beenthe mainstays, you know, on the
tour. You know, I thinkthe Tournament of Champions they missed that one
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and going to why and being right, you know, the beginning of you
know, the winner like that.So that's what I always want to go
to. That's the one I'm gonnago to because I tell you what,
there's no one ever on that course. I mean there's no fans there and
you can literally just walk around andsee everything. You're seeing the best players
in the world, just one.It's amazing. Yeah. I want to
go to that one for sure.Um, all right, well, another
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wonderful year day week. What isit? It's it's a week, It's
memorial It's the Memorial week. Anotherwonderful year. Um, good luck choosing
between Scheffler and Can't Lay. Nowthat I've thrown through that. Yeah,
I'm gonna lean towards oh chefty,but I can. I can make an
audible and go can't. Lae,And you are leaning towards, leaning towards
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Rom. Okay, leaning towards Rom. Asked me again, Oh, don't
forget your picks Glinn today. Idid. I already put it in.
Oh see, I have not,which is why I always forget put it.
Anything can change it later. Okay, I'll do it. Yeah,
hey you okay, bye bye
My internet connection is unstable? Whywould that be because it's unstable like your
life? How do I how doI stabilize it? Why? No?
So just like my life? Orwere we still talking about my life and
not the internet connection? Non stopfun? You know what else is non
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stop fun? The memorial? CanI think of that? Non stop fun?
Golf courts? Can I have alittle issue with the name of this
tournament, by the way, theJack Nicholas Memorial Tournament. I understand because
it's his tournament. That's what theycall it, though do they people call
it? Yeah? I saw thatwhen I was looking when I was doing
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my research today, and I waslike, okay, I'll plead ignorance on
this one. Yeah no, andI will say it is I have never
heard it called that, And Iwill say it is the Memorial Tournament.
But people will refer to it becauseit is Nicholas's tournament. I'm like,
you gotta be careful how you're sayingit. But they never say it on
the broadcast. They never say it'sthe Jack Nicholas Memorial. It's always the
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Memorial presented by Workday. Oh okay, well that first time I ever heard
about Workday and I'm like, whatthe hell's workday? And then now we
have workday? Yeah, I meanwe've had to work. Yeah, we've
had a while. But yeah,I don't know. The first when I
did the research on my phone,that's what came up, and I was
like, it is not the JackNicholas Memorial Tournament. The man is a
lot. Oh he is not passed. He's still with us in Barbara good
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and thank goodness because we don't needthat. We need to here. I
really want to go to this one. I wish I was a real I
wish I was a PGA Tour player, and really this week okay, so
well why not in the other weeksyou play Augusta, you play all these
other great courses. You know whatthe signature thing is there right at the
Memorial. I do not milkshakes,Oh you do. He's a big milkshake
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guy. Cream. Oh my god, I love ice cream. So that's
kind of like his signature thing.Like you go and have after your round
practice rounds, hitting balls, yougo have a milkshake and he, I
guess apparently just has this huge likemilkshake bar bonanza and he likes he just
him and you know, he justlikes milkshakes and you go and have a
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milkshake with them. Okay, soif you had your own tournament, what
would be your signature thing or wouldyou also have milkshake? I kind of
want to steal milk. Well,if I couldn't involve everything peanut butter.
Yeah, so just anything with peanutbutter on it. Just whatever, peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches, just peanutbutter burger. If you ever put peanut
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butter on a burger. I havenot, but Mark has and he says
it's really good. I'm still nervousabout it. I just started putting an
egg on my burger like in thelast year. Well that's fantastic. I'm
telling you. I just had thisMemorial Day weekend. Speaking of the Memorial
this place we were at had itand it's just perfect. You just peanut
butter with bacon and pickles. It'sgod, it's good. Wow, it's
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unreal how good it is. SoI probably everything peanut so peanut butter burgers
and peanut butter jelly sandwiches, althoughit's never I just have this discussion on
the air. I've never used jellyever. Yeah, I just call it
that but I use jam but okay, a butter milkshakes, yeah, anything,
okay, all right? Yeah?What about you? What would you
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what would your signature be, Imean, aside from wine, rose,
Yeah, a rose or a pinotgrigio. But um what else would I
have? That? A little prosecco? Oh dude, you'd start off it'd
be the three phases of wine.You'd start off with a prosecco in the
morning, have a little rose midround. Do you ever have ever had
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a bubbly rose? Yes? Yeah, that's real good. I want some.
That's dangerous because you can just drinka lot of those. You can
because it's real fast. Yeah,it's just I have so maybe that Maybe
that's it. That's your thing.Rose. Maybe the rose on every hole,
I don't know. I mean therose all day tournament, Rose all
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day tournament. Yeah, that's good. That is a really I like that
idea. You shouldn't start that.Thank you here to raise some money for
some kids. Maybe I will.Um. Also, just real quick to
wrap up this Jack Nicholas Memorial,sure not passed, is not passed?
He still past where I saw itis SB nation dot com. Jack Nicholas
Memorial Tournament. SB Nation staff revealspicks SPI Nation. I can't SPI Nation
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is still around hunt. I meanthat was a big deal, and maybe
not after they tried to kill offJack stop trying to kill off the greatest,
one of the greatest golfers ever nation. We need him here as long
as humanly possible. Yet you're stogether. Do you like milkshakes? And
no, you're lactose intolerant. Aren'tyou not lactose intolerant? I'm actually allergic
to dairy, but the issue isjust in my sinuses, and like milkshake
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not a good thing for you.I mean, I pick and choose because
I'm like, well, you knowwhat, if I want to get a
sinus infection, potentially it's got tobe really good. So you get you
just get plugged up, Yeah,like an actual hour, No bubble guts
anything like that. No, no, just so will you take something like
hey, I'm gonna have I'm puttingmy foot down, or have an ice
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cream? Then I do you takesomething for it before? Okay, I've
never been told that that would work, but maybe I should try that.
See what happens. Do you havea favorite flavor? Oh? So I
just go anything peanut butter with chocolate. Yeah. Like, if I'm going
to dairy Queen, like a blizzard, Oh, I like a blizzard over
a milkshake blizzard for sure, andI'll go resus peanut butter cup or for
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a while they did the peanut butterswirled in there. I don't know if
they still do so good. Ialso do enjoy cookies and cream. Cookies
and creams a good one. Ilike the My second favorite is mint chocolate
chip. Okay, I don't like. I don't like the chocolate chips because
I don't like it when they gethard. I used to love cookie dough.
I know, I used to lovecookie dough. But that one out
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is pretty good. Yeah it is, but it doesn't beat anything with peanut
butter, and it doesn't beat oreoor whatever. Yeah, okay, anyway,
sorry, now I'm really hungry,So hold on my tip of my
protein shake. That's oh, Ilove that good. That's and listener,
she's got a protein shake that's probablyabout sixty four ounces seven eleven. That's
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a thirsty. That's a big gulp. Remember the sixty four ouncer. It's
large. Do they still have thesixty four. I mean, I know
thirty two standard big gulp, butthey used to have the sixty four because
if thirty two ounces of jolt wasn'tenough, let's go sixty four. I
think they. I'm sure they do. Hold on. I think that this
is that's a lot, Jesus,it's this is probably thirty two ounces.
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Good lord, what's in that thing? It's ice, halfway water a quarter
of the way, and then twoscoops of chocolate powder and two scoops of
peb fit. Oh that you lovethe peb fit. It's not the real
thing, but I in it.It works, it tastes buttery. Man,
this is the time we've ever spenttalking about food before. Okay,
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I'll stop, I'll stop. Idon't hate it. I'm not saying that
it's a problem for me. Youknow. It's it's like the Memorial.
Like food, it eats you up. The Memorial will eat you up.
Is that a good transition? Terrible? But I'll you like it? Awful,
awful good. Before though, beforewe get to the Memorial, I
just want to say thank you lastweek because I took your advice. Okay,
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um, we were both going topick cam Davis. Then we both
found out we used him and couldn'tuse him, thank god. Could not
remember that I took him, andthen I remember it was like the first
of all, I think the onethat's in the Palm Desert, Palm Springs.
Yeah, I don't remember, that'swhat I took him out. All
I know is I'm glad I didn'tuse him again. Okay, So no,
Davis, you went with I wentwith Ricky Fowler okay, Yeah,
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and he ended up tied for eight. Yeah, yeah, it was great.
I went with I think I waseight or six with Sammy Burns.
Oh, there you go. Andhe didn't get me anything. For God's
sakes, I mean barely even.I think I went down in my standings.
Oh I didn't think it was possible. But yeah, I guess that
makes sense. Yeah, no one, Yeah, no, it doesn't really
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make sense. How do you Whatdid you think of Ameliano Grillo going in
the playoff? I don't know ifhe saw this. And then he gets
to the playoff, he's on thedriving range, like, screw it,
I don't need to hit a shot. Hey kid, do you want to
come over the rope here and hita couple of shots with my driver.
How sweet was that? It wasso cute. I love it. And
then he's real cute. Karma cameback to him and helped him win.
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Well, you know, at thatpoint you need to hit any more shots.
I can only imagine someone like thatas in a playoff. He doesn't
need to hit any more shots.What's probably eating at him to stept nervous?
He is he's got to wait togo to the playoff. Yeah,
how do you how do you battleit? How do you get over those
nerves? You just kind of lightenthe mood a little bit? And I
thought, that's what That's a realgenius move. I thought on his part
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he did. He clearly didn't hitany more shots. He's fine, but
he lightened the mood to probably relaxhim. Yeah, paid off. I
agree, it was. It waswonderful. More people need to screw their
warm ups and just bring kids in. Just kidding, But I know I
did like it though. Um,And actually I was wrong. Ricky Fowler
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was actually tied with sand Burns forsixth. Even better, Yeah, even
better. And if you picked AdamShank, Harry Hall or Paul Hayley to
finish in the top five, boyare you ever heard of Shank Yes,
never had heard of Harry Hall.What's the amazing thing about golf is you
you devour a lot of it.I think I think we know a lot
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about it and follow it more probablythe average well certainly more than the average
person. Probably that's listening, butor maybe not. But yeah, there's
these all these players out that I'vejust you've never heard of before that you
know, creep up in surprise,and Harry Hall is certain one of them.
He certainly was you know, someoneelse people had never heard of that
we talked about last week. Wegot to see how our boy Sam Stevens
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finished. Yeah, Stevens was everywherehe was. I don't know what happened.
They must have listened to the podcastand been like, we need to
put him on the cover. AndI even saw Stevens now mentioned here.
Oh really, well he did.His second round was a sixty six.
He had a great second round ormay I don't know if I was mentioned
here just in maybe just recapping lastweek, but yeah, good for you
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and Sammy Stevens. I was hopingthat maybe you would take him, but
you didn't. I didn't. Ihad him as my backup I went with
Fowler, and I'm glad I did. But that just means I can use
Sam Stevens a different time. Thereyou go anytime he's available this week an
elevated event. Yeah, and whenI'm thinking elevated event, I'm thinking Sam
Stevens for twenty mill who isn't That'swhat I'm saying. Yeah, I don't
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think I'll use Sam Stevens, butyou'll leave him off, leave him on
the on the bench this week,saving him for the probably Open, right,
Yeah, I need to save uswell, US to Open in two
weeks. Yeah, except I canuse a liv golfer there so that I
probably the cup, Yes, youcan. I don't know. It's gonna
be a good test for the USOpen in two weeks. This is a
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memorial is always a another kind oftester. US Open light course. It's
long and boy, you you getoff the tea at this place, you
again four inch five inch rough,and so you better keep it straight.
I mean, fairways are pretty widehere, thirty three yards wide on the
average. But if you get offa little bit, yeah, I mean
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you're in four inch rough. There'swater everywhere, so it's a tough course.
I mean, this is rated especiallylike the short course or the your
short game, around the around thegreen, shipping putting. This is the
second toughest course on the tour besidesAugustus. So this is it's a good
test for these guys. And youjust look at the past winners and it's
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normally who's who of top players inthe world. Well, I was gonna
say past winners and someone who doesvery well there, Patrick Cantley. So
he's an obvious favorite. I mean, not that he shouldn't be in any
tournament. He's a very good golftwo time winner of it. I mean
t ten to one odds, andwe've we look at him, is long
and pretty accurate off the tea andyeah and things like that. So and
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now he's a Jolakava and then JoeLacava. Yeah, I mean it's you
look at the odds on this one, it's it's all the heavyweight Scheffler the
odds on favorite with Ram and thencan't lay and Rory and Xanders at fourteen
to one, Hovelin is at twentyto one, more cow is at twenty
two to one. I can't believethat you can get you know, major
champion winners like Speef at thirty toone and JT at thirty to one.
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That just blows me away, itreally, but great value for those for
those two guys. Yeah, youknow whose name actually that. I'm seeing
a lot that is not in thetop one of those top guys. Saw
Heath or saw him, sorry,saw him see Gala Okay, yeah,
and he's fifty to one, Ibelieve. But I saw him on my
PGA Toured Expert page that I alwayslook at, Love the Expert page.
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Three or four people brought him upand I was like, wow, that's
kind of surprising, I would think, but I love a little saw Hith.
Yeah, this's gonna be tough one. It's been tough one. The
chipping is short, the short grass. I mentioned that the hardest one tour.
It's got the third toughest part three. There all their par threes minus
one or over two hundred yards oftheir shortest Part three is one hundred and
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eighty yards, So I mean that'sgonna be difficult. It's got the eighth
toughest part four scoring on the PGAto our think seventh toughest part five.
I mean you look at the finishingholes sixteen, seventeen eighteen, you're going
a par three. That's two hundredplus yards over water. Fun you gotta
Then seventeen is a long part foureighty five, which is difficult, it's
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narrow, and then the finishing holesanother part four four eighty it's dog leg,
an uphill dog leg that you gotto navigate a bunch of hazards around
that. So you know that's athat's gonna be an amazing finish. It
always is an amazing finish for themost part. There we've seen some great
finishes over the year, especially withTiger five time winner and all that.
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So you would you would love toknow that some of the key statistics would
be good driving percentage. Obviously scramblingfrom the rough. Another good one strokes
gained approach, strokes gained approach tothe green. And then another good one
is bogie avoidance. Oh my favorite. I knew you like bogie avoidance.
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It's kind of one of your favorites, it is. But the key to
this course is to avoid bogie's.Hey, you know what, After you
came on the show and we discussedbogie avoidance, then Bucky started using bogie
avoidance yea his thing, and Iwas like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
bro, Sure you can steal mybogie avoidance. You keep listen,
he can. Anyone can use it, but bogie avoidance. I'm telling you
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credit the nineteenth Whole Podcast. Numberone player and bogie avoidance. Who is
it? Who is it? Drumroll but Scott Stevens. No, Scottie
Stevens. He's a Stevens. Idon't even know his name. Scottie Scheffler.
Surprise, let me guess. Sothe guy that has won the most
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on the tour this year, numberone player in the world, is also
number one in bogie avoids. Youdon't say so. Is that why all
fourteen his last fourteen starts, he'sbeen t twelve or better because he avoids
bg Okay, that makes sense.Day is number two. Coaches number three,
Brian Harmon three, Tom Kim five, Putnam six, Rom seven,
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can't lay nine, Shaflate ten.Okay. So what it tells you a
listener here, if you're just wonderinghow does golf work? If you avoid
bogie's, normally you're going to shootpretty well. That's the key. Yeah,
so's it's like it's bogie avoidance orbirdie acceptance. Yes, yeah,
yeah, what it does, whatit does show and if you can cross
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reference it bogie avoidance with another favoriteis three put avoidance. Scheffler's number three
in that category, Okay, Andit's serious, it really is. I
mean, the difference between these championswinning this stuff is just a couple of
shots here and there each round andthe golfers that can avoid three putting.
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No, when you save a paror you know, sometimes you save a
bogee right, right, just hey, sometimes a bogey's okay and it's not
getting the double bogeye right. SoScheffler's obviously good with that stuff, and
and that's why he's kind of he'stop ten or top five of both of
those. Okay, Um, doyou have a favorite of who you like
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this week? I'm gonna go ona limit. I'm gonna pull the trigger
on Scottie Scheffler. Yeah, that'sa yeah. This course he has got
he has got the most reminiscent swing. It feels like Jack Nicholas and Jack
Nicholas designed this course basically based onhim, and that is it is always
favored a player with a high ballflight and someone who goes who fades the
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ball, who goes left to right, okay, and Scottie Scheffler does both
hits a sky high and fades theball. Okay. So I mean I
think Justin Thomas, even though IThomas's track record here isn't great, I
think he has a top I thinkhe has a fourth finish a while ago.
But I think you know that's whyTiger finished won this thing five times.
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Yeah, because he hits the ballsky high. Now he can shape
it anyway once, but that powerfade, that high fade that he could
execute. UM would always favorite favoriteplayers here. So I would look at
somebody who and there's probably a statout there, but someone that hits the
ball super high and can fade theball, those are gonna be guys that
that are going to be obviously incontention this week. And I don't know.
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Maybe that that's why Fenwe is notplaying this week because Phenewe doesn't really
have that that type of swing,but he's not playing this week. Okay,
But you know that's who I'm gonnago with. It's it's put up
a shut up time I need towin. Yeah, well, and that's
what my thought is too, SoI think I'm actually going to pull the
trigger, and I was gonna goJohn Ram, but now wrong. We
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can do it, Yeah he can. But this is the problem is that
then one of us doesn't win andthen it's not worth it. Well,
yeah, that's true. But Ithink if you take out the stret if
you take the strategy, have takena live guys here in the two last
two majors, then the only thingyou're saving him for is no end of
the year. Yeah. I don'tknow. It's just every time it comes
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time to do it, I getso nervous. And he didn't play well
last week. He did not lastweek? Yeah, but um they I
was reading like the putting and thingsshouldn't that he had issues with last week
won't be as much of an issuehere. I don't know, because I
guess the greens were really difficult lastweek. Well besides, Okay, so
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besides besides the US Open, acouple of weeks of the LA Country Club,
you'll have another expanded not elevated theTravelers in Connecticut, and then you
got the Open Championship, which willbe another a big purse to come up
in July. But we don't getanother Elevated Tournament. We don't get it
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until the fed X. Oh really, yeah, because then you get the
FedEx, you get the Saint Jude, the BMW, and the Tour Championship.
The last three. Okay, soyour hope is you'll win it and
you can pull them back. ButI mean, this is it. Unless
you're gonna say them back, usethem, that's it. So well,
then then you can save them forthe final three and make a make a
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push for the for the last whichis not it's not a bad strategy to
do. But I will have Scheffleravailable too, see I have well yeah
I haven't. Yeah, if you'vegot Scheffler available, I mean, or
you want to decide between Sheffler andRahm, I would just maybe keep one
of them to say, hey,I'm going to roll it. Yeah,
because clearly those last three you youneed a top ten player, yeah,
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and a heavyweight for them. Ijust don't want to pick the wrong one.
That's my problem. Well that's obviously, so instead I get so nervous,
so I just don't use either ofthem because I don't want to use
one at the wrong time and thenthey don't win or they have a crappy
week. Oh, it's welcome tothe world. I know, picking golfers
it's hard. It's a crab shoot, you roll the dice and you go.
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I know. And I don't stressabout anybody else other than those two.
Well, because you just if it'sthat week, Yeah, it's that
week, that would just would justdrive you absolute nuts. I know,
that's all right. Maybe I'll justclose my eyes and throw a dart.
Oh you could do that, althoughyou shouldn't close your eyes and throw a
dart. Let's be honest. Youshould probably just throw the dart. Yeah,
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because well you other guys, Imean, there's other players you could
use there, I mean strokes gamesapproach, which I said, there's like
three big categories. Strokes gained approach, scrambling rough and the good drive a
percentage out of the rough. Andthen you can also just on a fourth
probably just driving a courtacy. Yeah, a courtacy down of the middle is
always good in golf, just likebogie avoids it is. But yeah,
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if you can hit a fairway,that's more beneficial, it is, and
then dust avoid the bogies. Sostrokes gain approach it's more Kawas Scheffler Romsander,
Rory Fowler and then scrambling from therough Scheffler's eighth. Hobbling is six
in that category. And then youcan just if you look at I'll pull
up the driving a curacy and giveyou the and give you that one,
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which would be another one that wouldbe you know, obviously pretty telling this
week. I mean, Henley's numberone, take him out. I'm just
trying. Let me scroll down tofind more cow is gonna be seventh overall,
can't Ley's ninth, and again thisis why can't Ley's one twice there
and he's always been a factor.Scheffler's twenty second. So I mean,
certainly all good number the rough tendency. One looked at this earlier. Nothing
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really stands out of this one offthe tee against some familiar names that are
up there that you would that Ijust mentioned more cows again ninth than that
one, so again he would besuccessful or soho. Last year's champion is
thirteenth in that category. Keith Mitchell, who just drives it long and straight,
is up there as well. SoI mean more cowib certainly shows up
a lot on all the metrics.That's yeah, I was actually going to
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ask you about him, who's twentyfive to one, and I saw gained
nearly twenty four strokes to the fieldin the ball striking categories. Yeah,
it would be a great pick,Absolutely great pick. Yeah, and then
can't lay has gained two point onenine strokes per round from t to green,
so that's second only two Scottie Scheffler. It seems like this would be
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a great course for Justin Thomas.But but again, for whatever reason,
he hasn't. He hasn't dominated thereas much that you would think that he
would. Yeah, I want toI'm trying to find his results there because
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I know he's been a fourth therebefore. But again, he is six
of his last six of the seventop six of the seven elevated events,
he's been top twenty five, whichis good. Three top tens in his
last six starts at Merefield, sohe's better. He's better than I thought.
I'm just trying to think as highestfinish. I think his fourth at
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the more Moral, but again hehits it sky high and moves it left
or right, so he didn't seememorial less. We'll see two years ago
with him, and he just elevateshis game in the elevated events. He
was He was forty second two yearsago in it, and then back in
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for two nineteen he was eighteen,So it's it's been a minute since he's
he's contended there, but guide youjust kind of when then he was cut
back in nineteen. But you justkind of close your eyes of someone who
hits the ball high and moves itleft to right, and that's him,
and he's here's the other thing abouthim too. He is fifth on the
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PGA it strokes gained around the green. We just said around the green is
vital at this golf course. SoI is another person he was tied for
eight back in eighteens. Another personI would kind of circle and sometimes stats,
all these stats are gonna be misleading. And Justin Thomas is hot and
ready to go this week, thenhe should be a factor in it,
even though despite his odds being thirtyto one. Well and then um,
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just I was can't lay obviously,as we mentioned earlier as one twice um
in the last four years. Sorrymy protein shake is making me hiccup.
Well sure, yeah, one twicein the last four years. But he
also has four top four finishes inhis last five trips. So yeah,
yeah, I mean the thing,I've already used him. I can't use
him, but I boyd in this. Now you got me, Maybe maybe
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I should reverse course and take himI know, right, Um, yeah,
I've already used him. And thenalso just to correct myself earlier,
I was saying that Rom struggled puttinglast week. It was two weeks ago.
I don't know my time. Wellit's okay, two weeks ago,
one week, and I'll you knowwhat I was. I was vibing foot
you were selling. Hey, thankyou, and I appreciate that. One
thing I wanted to ask you ifyou saw Jack Nicholas's comments. They asked
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him about having a memorial tournament withoutBrooks Kepka and Cam Smith and stuff,
and he said, I don't evenconsider those guys part of the game anymore.
What do you think about that?Well, I mean I understand,
yeah, I mean he's hurt bywhat they did. I mean, he
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and Palmer and all these guys wereso vital to create the PGA Tour.
I mean they created it. AndI was about mute. Sorry, yes
they did. You were correct,and they you know, now you have
a group that is decided it's notgood enough. Yeah, ranched out to
their to form another league. Sohe looks as a slap in the face
(26:10):
and slap in the face, andI totally get that. I would understand
where he is coming from, howhe feels that way. And it's the
blowback that these guys will get froma player of his stature and also Tiger
Woods and others, and it's somethingthey've had to come to a realization and
(26:30):
take head on and accept it.But I think they probably look at their
bank account and go, Okay,yeah, we're fine. It doesn't matter.
And I think for Kiepka it doesn'tmatter. I should say for his
full comment, it was I don'teven consider those guys part of the game
anymore. I don't mean that ina nasty way. This is a PGA
Tour event and we have the bestfield we can possibly have for those who
are eligible to be here. Theother guys made a choice of what they
(26:52):
did and where they've gone, andwe don't even talk about it. It's
just where they chose to play golf. I wish them all well. So
it wasn't like he was trying tobe a jerk, but I agree with
what you're saying, Like for them, I think it has to be especially
hard. Like the people that areplaying right now that are on the PGA
Tour and the Live Tour that arelike you know Callie or you know Peers,
(27:14):
Yeah, they could be hurt orspurned or whatever. But yeah,
it is those guys that created thetour that are probably a little bit more
a lot of blood, sweat andtears that I think Jack and Palmer and
those guys put in to this tomake it fair, inequitable and all of
that. But and then to havea group led by Norman who was one
(27:37):
of them, yeah, you know, splinter away and try to fracture something
that they built, I think hasgot to be very resentful and hurtful for
them. Yeah, I think atthe same time, I would hope they
would probably acknowledge some of the thingsthat you know, these players were asking
for, which they now on thePGA Tour of have come around to facilitate
(27:59):
to these players and give to themsome of these things that they've been asking
for and wanting. But yeah,when you threaten something that you built and
put your life's work into, ofcourse you're going to be bothered. And
hurt by it. And I dothink some of those guys, some of
those top players, probably this isone of the tournaments that they probably miss
(28:22):
Yeah, I can see that.I don't think they miss the Colonial.
I don't think that they miss RocketMortgage, but I think they missed this.
I think they missed the players.Um, you know a couple of
the ones that have kind of beenthe mainstays, you know, on the
tour. You know, I thinkthe Tournament of Champions they missed that one
(28:47):
and going to why and being right, you know, the beginning of you
know, the winner like that.So that's what I always want to go
to. That's the one I'm gonnago to because I tell you what,
there's no one ever on that course. I mean there's no fans there and
you can literally just walk around andsee everything. You're seeing the best players
in the world, just one.It's amazing. Yeah. I want to
go to that one for sure.Um, all right, well, another
(29:07):
wonderful year day week. What isit? It's it's a week, It's
memorial It's the Memorial week. Anotherwonderful year. Um, good luck choosing
between Scheffler and Can't Lay. Nowthat I've thrown through that. Yeah,
I'm gonna lean towards oh chefty,but I can. I can make an
audible and go can't. Lae,And you are leaning towards, leaning towards
(29:29):
Rom. Okay, leaning towards Rom. Asked me again, Oh, don't
forget your picks Glinn today. Idid. I already put it in.
Oh see, I have not,which is why I always forget put it.
Anything can change it later. Okay, I'll do it. Yeah,
hey you okay, bye bye
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