Astros Take Care Of Business In Arlington, Texans Diet Game Day Eve and Chandler Rome

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Team.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Straight up three o'clock here on a Thursday edition of
The A Team. It is Sports Talk seven ninety. This
is my least favorite scenario when it comes to baseball season,
because not only did the Astros play a day game,
but then they're off the next day and I feel
like I've got to wait and wait and wait. And
you know, wex how much I hate waiting on my

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sports doesn't matter what it is to our listeners.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
What do you mean they know how much you hate it?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, No, it's something that I probably shouldn't be as
irritated as I am about. But then you could say
that about a million different things on the planet. Might
just ask my wife. We were having a fight the
other night. It was a fight. It was a legit fight.
And you know you've argued with me before. I'm not
a very easy person to get along with at times,
but neither of you sometimes, So that's why the show's

(01:04):
so good. But yeah, I get I dwell on way
too many dumb things and this is one of them.
I just want to get it, And here's the deal.
After you see what aj Hinch has done for his
former organization, you want to get keep the ball rolling
in that way as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I wish that they could lose another game. It's gonna
keep rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, well tonight, if they play and they lose, you
would have gotten that much more distance between them if
you were also playing and won the game tonight. So
that's that kind of goes into it. But mainly it's
just I hate off days. I know they love them
and they need them, and frankly some of the guys
in that lineup could use them, and the bullpen certainly could.
But uh, yeah, this is that's one of those little

(01:44):
quirks in the schedule that I always kind of when
you get the getaway game off. Yeah, no, it's the
day off after a day game. That's the it's that's
the lethal combination.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
But it happens so often doesn't seem like a quirk.
I don't know that it does.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Like I feel like, yeah, there's night games where this happens, obviously,
but I just feel like, especially when they're coming off
a win over a rival, I don't know, I just
want to I want to keep it going I want to.
I want to argue with more people on social.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Media, you know that kind of thing. No one's stopping you, No, no.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I find I fired off tweet before the show today
and I was talking to our buddy Perry with Space
City Home Network, and I just like I said, Man,
that feels good. I haven't sent one of those out
in a long long time. I've been been ignoring a
lot of you lately, more than more than I probably
used to.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Astros will not play tonight, as is obvious, and then
they'll start a very pivotal series in UH Boston, which,
by the way, Boston just got done with.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
The Bobby Wit experience. Bobby Wit Junior.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
UH Kansas City is gonna be a problem if they
keep this little squad together. They I don't want to
say they came out of nowhere, because Bobby Wit Junior
was already very good going into this season, but that's
gonna be one of those teams like where the Orioles
get all the run because they're the young, up and
coming team. Bobby Wit Junior is like giving Aaron Judge
a run for the envy. I wonder where we heard

(03:01):
about that A month ago.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Right here, yep, right here on the A team, the Royals,
the Twins, the Guardians, the Yankees, the Orioles within four
and a half games of each other, the top five
teams in the American League, all five of whom are
currently set to hit the postseason.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
But there's six teams in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Wex, Yeah, I know, the winner, who's much worse than
all of them of the AL West will claim the
other spot. Nobody in the AL West is more than
four games over five hundred. None of them have won
even sixty games. Yet each of those teams I mentioned
is that sixty three or better, and the Red Sox,
who the Astros will be playing starting tomorrow, are at
sixty one, another team the Astros would have to jump,

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and they're not even inside the current playoff picture. They're
six games back in their division race and in third place.
They're a game and a half back of the Kansas
City Royals in the wild card race, two games back
of the Twins. So these games are extremely important to
both teams, and the Astros will see a handful more
of these series in the very near future after not

(04:04):
having seen as many of those series in the very
recent past, even though some of the teams they've played
are good. Obviously that was not the case against the Rangers.
Quite honestly, I don't think it's the case against the
Rays because I just mentioned eight other teams in the AL,
and the Rays are essentially behind all of them. So
they might have a reasonably good record, and they obviously
were good enough to beat Houston, but they're not really

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in the way. They're not really these games hanging in
the balance. Can we get enough wins to get to
the playoffs? It is different with who they played tonight,
and then it goes back to a team like Tampa
right after that, one of the teams still on their
schedule for the final three games of their season against them.
Chicago White Sox say, great, great news, they've got a
new manager. On an interim basis, they said, a fourteen

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game losing streak, in a twenty one game losing streak
and a pace of one hundred and twenty three losses. Yeah,
our roster is way too good for that. Pedro, you
gotta go. This is on you. This team is playing flat.
They're not coming out with any kind of energy or talent.
And he did get relieved of duties today after less

(05:06):
than two full seasons. There interim manager there and Grady
Sizemore who was on staff and he's been a coach
of any kind for less than two years. They'll have
a new coach sometime this offseason and new manager, and
we will see how many other teams join them in
the hunt for a new manager.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
This team won't be one of them.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
First year manager Joe Aspota has this team back in
first place. The Mariners lost last night when they faced
the Tigers and Trek scoubel An l a six to
two loss. Parker Meadows probably one of the biggest plays
that will be made on the Astros road to the
postseason after a Randy or Rose Arena had doubled in
the bottom of the eighth inning with his team down

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three to two, and again Randy plays for the Mariners
now and he hits in front of Cal Raley. Earlier
in the game, hitting in front of Cal Raleigh, he
had also reached base and Raley hit a two run homer,
the only two runs they had scored up until that point.
Two outs in the bottom of the eighth inning, and
Raleigh homered again to put Seattle up for to three
if not for park Omedo's jumping over the fence yes

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and making a catch that left it at three to two,
ended the eighth inning, and then the Tigers put themselves
on easy street by scoring three runs in the top
of the ninth. Then they won that game six to two.
So that's why the Astros will head into play tomorrow
in first place. Obviously Mariner's playing tonight. It's either going
to be a tie for first place or they're going

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to have a full game lead depending on their result
against the Tigers. And obviously the Astros hoping one thing
I know that they're hoping for. It's the same kind
of starting pitching they've gotten since you say Kakuchi has
been put into their starting rotation. Sent those numbers out
on the old Twitter x machine a little bit earlier
today his two starts, and probably should go with saying

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often Simes, we say that goes without saying. The Astros
were pretty smart beyond the obvious and how they set
up their rotation. You trade for Kukuchi, you've got the
off day last third, and by slotting him in on
Friday before the following week's Thursday off, today he's the
only pitcher that went twice, he got additional rest heading

(07:09):
into that start, and now every other pitcher on the
staff got at least an additional day of rest, some
of them two additional days of rest heading into this series.
Got two good starts from him, got four good starts
in the other four games, Meaning everybody in this rotation
since he's been inserted into it, has given the Astros
an opportunity to win, and not all of them quality starts,

(07:32):
because you didn't have everybody going six and allowing three
runned runs or fewer, but six innings run run allowed
by both Brown and Arraghetti. I think you could call
near no hitter a quality start. Romber did that for
eight and two thirds three pitchers, including Kokuchi's two starts.
You didn't get the full six, but they gave you

(07:53):
a two to seventy forty seven k's and thirty six
and two thirds innings. And that's why we can now
focus on the offense that had the team going three
and three during those six games.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, no, and it's good that there's a little bit
of a breath. Listen, two home runs in as many
days from Jordan Alvarez. I don't care what stadium it's in,
I don't care if it's here. I don't care if
it's away from here, because we know the splits with
that guy this season specifically, I'll take any sort of
mini outburst, if that's what you want to call that.
They needed every bit of everything they had to get

(08:24):
those wins against the Rangers, just because slim pickens these
days with runs. But if that's the beginning of if
that's like the trickle, and eventually it's become a faucet,
and then you know, eventually it'll become a geyser or
I don't know, what are my other cliches with flowing
water of.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Levels, If that maybe the damn will break go whatever I.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Was trying to figure out one there you go fire ohs,
that's a good one. I think I feel like that
has good water pressure. If that's what happens offensively and
you're still getting this pitching. But going back to what
you said about Kakuchi, no bleeping away. They planned it
because they were they were in the mix, or they
were rumored to be in the running for several different pitchers, right,

(09:05):
But the fact that Kakuchi was the guy they picked
up and his turn in the rotation was where it
was once he got here.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I e.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It was a pretty quick turnaround. That he had his
debut as an astro and that you're able to arrest
the guys in succession. And then it was not just oh,
this is his day to pitch. It was specifically planned
to have him pitch that day. But he has to
be available too, is what I'm saying. It has to
be his turn has to be coming up. You're not
going to like you know, you're not gonna turn around
after three days of rest that kind of thing quite obviously.

(09:35):
That's I'm just saying. It's just funny how it all
came together like a perfect storm.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yes, yes, I suppose, but you're not going to add
a pitcher who pitched that day because it just doesn't
work that way anymore. That's why Jack flaherty was available
to pitch whenever he went right, because you're going to
have it that way. Yes, he could have pitched a
day sooner. I mean he pitched on the twenty sixth,
so that put you four days out from the deadline
to begin with. He ended up pitching for the first
time with Houston on the second, a full week much

(10:03):
more time than usual.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
He could have pitched on Wednesday. He could have pitched
the day did.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
The drink day didn't drink. He pitch the day he
was acquired by the Astros.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I don't think teams are willing to do that anymore. Yeah, yeah,
it could happen. It didn't happen, and I think that's
why they They could have waited till Saturday. They could
have forced him or pushed him to pitch Wednesday. But yes,
the opportunity to set it up the way I suggested
played out brilliantly for them. Hopefully we'll see what the
end results are with the a little extra rest they

(10:32):
can get, and hopefully we're probably about two weeks seventeen days,
two rotation turns away from If all goes well, getting
number thirty five back.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's the key, because then the six man rotation and
everything else can come into play and it starts to
I mean, it'll be the first time all season. Won
don't feel like the first time all season that an
element of the Astros isn't under some sort of pressure
it is caused by injury.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I mean, considering you've had Arrogetty in the rotation nearly
the entire season that that in and of itself probably
answers the question.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But I'm not just talking about pitching either. Obviously he's
not gonna be playing. JB's coming back before he is.
You think Chandler Rome's article ruffled some feathers today over there.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
At the Astros, I don't think so. I don't know
why it would ruffle their feathers. Maybe the company they
work with in the hospital industry that could not comment.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Maybe maybe that's what it was. Maybe maybe that's it.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I mean, it was fine, but we will definitely address
that topic, the injury topic with this team as we
tend you here on.

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Speaker 1 (12:10):
Back to Adam Clinton at Adam Wexler.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Thursday edition of the A Team here on Sports Talk
seven to ninety In some respects, does it feel like
the preseason is actually beginning tomorrow night for the Texans?
I know it's a game night, eve, I just don't
I know, the Hall of Fame game and everything that
comes with it.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
But I feel like last.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Week's first preseason outing was much more about basically everything
that came after that game, and because so many players
didn't play in the actual game. And I'm not saying
we're gonna have this just wealth of first stringers tomorrow night,
but the fact that Demiko Ryans has gone on the
record is saying that some of them will be playing
and that it's not all this other stuff surrounding it's

(13:00):
just Okay, here's a preseason game. It feels more like
the preseason is actually starting tomorrow. I mean, there's no
question about it. If you don't have any of the
players that are going to make or break your season matter,
I mean, I don't want to be you know, make
those players feel bad, but they're not going to dictate
how this season goes. Pretty much, there's three guys out there,
four guys, five guys you know, your kicker, your punter,

(13:22):
your long snapper, the three offensive line starters potentially that
we're out there.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
That's essentially it. Those are the only players that have
much of a real impact on how this season goes.
Injuries will dictate a few things otherwise, and hopefully there
won't be too many, but going into this game, there
will be and that still is a concern for me.
It's not a concern for the head coach, Tamiko Ryans,
who said it maybe a series or two kind of
depending on how that first series goes. Is what he's
currently planning on doing with his quarterback CJ. Stroud and

(13:50):
presumably the majority of the ones. But they're not even
all available. He's not going to have any handoffs to
Joe Mixon. He's not going to be protected by Titus
Howard or Laramie Tunsell most likely, unless it's an incredible
surprise that both of those guys are out there. I
don't even want to pretend that that's even a possibility.
Tunsle has practice zero times. He's not playing tomorrow, and

(14:11):
Titus Howard is on a missed the last couple of
practice situation, even though he is not believed to be serious.
I don't think he'll be out there. I said from
the beginning, I wouldn't play c J. Stroud if those
guys aren't out there. I was specific to tunsl because
at that time Howard had not missed any practice time,
nor was he hurt. It helps that Mike Tomlin essentially
said to the media, who do you think my most

(14:33):
important defensive players are? And someone said how about Hayward?
And he goes, yep, how about Queen yep? What about
Derek Watt's brother and he goes, yep, Derek. What about
Minka yep?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Him too.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Their most all of their best defensive players are not playing.
Russell Wilson also not playing. But that might be true
during the season too. So I'm not saying these Steelers
won't have a pass rush when they're going up against
whatever ones the Texans have in front of c J.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Stroud.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
But it is a little bit nicer knowing that the
few snaps that some of those key defensive players would
even get during a preseason aren't coming against the Houston Texans,
not at one hundred percent offensive line while attempting to
keep their quarterback from getting hit. Remember, these quarterbacks have
been hit zero times since they played their last NFL

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football game. Both the Steelers and the Texans were in
the postseason under very different circumstances for each and they
certainly are different teams as they get there now. But
they don't get hit during the offseason workouts, and they
certainly don't get hit during training camp, so it does matter.
I can't say I would do it this way, but
I don't think it's the worst decision in the world
for CJ. Stroud to get a handful of reps. And

(15:50):
some of you might say, well, yeah, he's never been
on the field with Stefan Diggs. I doubt, very seriously
he's going to be on the field with Stefan Diggs
tomorrow night. Just my personal thought. Do not believe Diggs
after this week of practice will be out there. But
I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
So the first time we see those two will be
Week one, right, No, I think if AJ's playing this week,
there's a pretty good chance he's also playing against the
Giants back in Houston.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Next Saturday.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Why do you say that, because I doubt he'd send
him out there for these two series and then sit
him for all the time until they play the RAMS
and the joint practice, and then sit him again and
then play him. If he's going to play him at
all during the preseason, then I think it's more than
one two series this far out from the regular season.
Then you're just putting all that we haven't worked together

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in forever right back on him.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
So and you would know this, I guarantee you you
would know this.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
What was his He played what a quarter and a
half ish of last season's first preseason game, and then
maybe similar in the second game, and then he was
done after that, as I.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Recall, something very very limited even as a rookie, but
the obvious starter, even though he wasn't named.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I still can't believe Tom Savage started the entire first
half of the first game of a season.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well, it's not Sean Watson. What happened here?

Speaker 6 (17:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I know what happened here is they split reps as
the ones for a very short period of time in practice.
And even though it was painfully obvious to anyone who's
covering the team, who the starter is, and they just
wouldn't say it. And I sometimes coaches have their own
way of doing things, and sometimes they learn from the
way they do things. I don't know if he had
to do it over againing to be a different but

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remember right before the season or right after the preseason game,
you heard CJ. Well, the first time they told me
was here and Demiko said, well, this was not something
we shared with the quarterbacks until now. So like it
wasn't just that he was keeping it from the media.
They never made it publicly known privately, but it was
totally silly. Everybody that puts on a uniform in CJ's

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locker room, including Davis Mills and Case Keenum, knew the
starting quarterback was going to be even if they had
not been told.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, maybe that's what I'm getting at more is because
I feel like, again it's a long time ago. I've
slept since then, but I feel like that was the
case with Deshaun. At the time, it was painfully obvious
to everybody who was watching that he was going to
be the starter, and yet here you had not only
Bill O'Brien not not leaning that way throughout the preseason,

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but then when the actual game started to count.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
It took him a half to figure that out too.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, I mean, I can't lie because I've said up
many times before. I just I didn't see it that way. Really, yeah,
I mean, so it was way more obvious. Oh my god,
it's night and day. That's totally separate situations completely. Tom
Savage did not look awful as a practice training Again,
that's the difference. There was such a clear difference between

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last year's situation and that situation. And again, both of
them played against Jacksonville the game you're talking about. That
opening game, Tom Savage had no protection and love taking sacks,
and then then this second half the same thing happened.
Deshaun wasn't any better against Jacksonville in the second half
of that game than Tom Savage in the offense was
in the first half. Granted, it's pretty obvious. I would

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think when you have nobody on your roster worthy of starting,
and you draft Deshaun Watson with the twelfth pick, he's
your starter.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
That was the only issue I had.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
There was no reason to even make it a competition,
and I don't know why not with that quarterback like
what Minnesota's doing this year, I don't even think is
the same, because at least Darnald has been on the
field and has been somebody that teams have believed in
for whatever reasons those were. It's a little bit different
than mister Nobody. Again, nothing personal Tom Savage. How's Deshaun

(19:43):
Watson competing with Tom Savage for reps at his first
training camp? That makes no sense, I guess Jam McCarthy
competing with Darnald I mean to me, it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
But it is a little different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
But and again I want to clarify, I'm not so
much jumping on, you know, whether or not the you know,
the Savages or the Davises of the world were bad
or good or whatever. It was just more about the
guy who, in this case didn't start was so much
better than the starter that was going out there. In
both cases, I feel it wasn't. In other words, I'm

(20:15):
not saying Savage sucked. I was just saying, well, as
it turned out, he did.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Right as soon as Watson got hurt, it was Savage's
team again, and the whole one win that they got
the rest of the season was an indicator of the
poor play that they were getting at the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to look back on that
in any way, shape or form anymore than we have to.
It's just under the circumstances last year it was. It
was somewhat similar. But yeah, this is I was thinking
about this on the way in today.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
C J.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Stroud does not strike me as the guy that's going
to get caught up in all the accolades he got
both during last season and just all the hype into
this offseason and into training camp. He does not strike
me as the type of guy. But sometimes you can
see a team get this kind of preseason hype and

(21:07):
have a first play schedule in front of them, and
inevitably it goes poorly for one reason or another, because
either you're reading your own press or whatever. I'm not
willing to say that. I just totally know that's not
gonna happen, even though the head coach, I would think
would guard against that better than just about anybody out there.
He's a natural leader, if you will. But I will

(21:28):
be very interested to see just how the first few
games go. I don't worry about them not being prepared,
being being prepared to play. That's never that was in
a question last year has been a question this year,
even if they came out flatter at times then maybe
others and admitted that. But I am very curious to
see how the first few weeks go of this season,

(21:50):
because if you want the things to happen that have
been talked about all offseason and into this preseason, I'm
not saying you have to like blast out of the gate,
but you can't have games like that. You can't have
flat games, and you can't be not prepared to play
in all that kind and you definitely can't believe your
own hype.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, maybe lean on your defense a little bit to
beat hardly played at all, Anthony Richardson hasn't played ever.
Caleb Williams and hasn't played at all. Drake may or
excuse me, JJ McCarthy. Those are the first three quarterbacks
you're gonna see, or Sam Darnold. If your defense isn't
ready to help your offense against those second two quarterbacks, clearly,

(22:28):
And I'll give Indianapolis credit for being a good football
team because they already were without Richardson, so it's slightly different,
But man, that's you shouldn't have to go out there
and score thirty plus to beat those three teams. I
wouldn't I wouldn't think maybe once, but hopefully not three times.
You've got to consider it's not just about reading their
own hype.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
CJ.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Well, what about Will Anderson reading his hype? What about
the team reading their hype? What about the number of
people that think the second best team in the AFC
is right here in Houston. They probably think it too,
but that's okay for them to think it. Just go
out there and know that you have to prove it.
And everything we've seen this preseason, hanging out with them
on the from a media standpoint, on the practice field

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we got uh. I mean, we've had several different interactions
on social media, but I did see one a few
minutes ago from one sports MT. Did you happen to
see that because you were tagged on it? No is
Adam J. Wexler going to lose his USA basketball bet

(24:52):
with Adam Clanton?

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Well, they play today, so there's always that chance as
I've said from the get go, if they don't play
on that particular day, no I won't. They're in a game,
and there are in one right now, then yes, there's
a chance I would lose my bet for nothing.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes, that's possibility.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, why didn't we ever go to terms? That's your fault.
I'm not going to take accountability. This is all your fault.
Oh oh what else did I have not taken accountability
for that?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
You're upside.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
I just you can make flippant comments when nobody knows
what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
You can't. You don't have to cite things. You can
just say anything you want off the cuff, just a
blanket statement.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
You don't have to, you know, look in the past
or check receipts. We can just say it, I'm living
rent free in your head. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
At least they're making it somewhat competitive here down the stretch,
team say it's going.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
To be crazy when their team has more points at
the end. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
The joker is doing his best to make that not
a reality. Yeah he is. It really looks like he's
playing with a bunch of miniature jokers. Since I don't
know anybody else on the Serbian team.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Well, there there's one other NBA player that's Donovich for
most of the game.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'd be interested to see how this thing rolls along.
Clearly Matt Thomas is watching the Olympics instead of listening
to us here. On Sports Talk seven ninety so earlier,
I mentioned that Chandler Rome had written an article in
The Athletic and he'll be joining the show at five
o'clock today to talk about that, among other things. But

(26:19):
this whole Kyle Tucker thing, and look, I don't know,
if to be honest, I don't know the motivation, if
there was any other than just to give an update.
But Chandler talking about the fact that the Astros have
gone out of their way to not make their head trainer,
for example, available on this topic.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Or any other injury topic. For the entire time he's
been their head athletic trainer. So it's not specific to
this injury.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, but this injury is I would say, the most
major one they've dealt with that didn't involve Tommy John.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I mean, is that fair over the course of this run.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I mean, I mean, if you really want to, you
could say we'd never really learn much from Jordon, Dusty
or Jeremiah about Jordon's hands?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Is it his left hand? Is his right hand?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I forgot about that well, but you know, I lose
track because he had the oblique but we knew what
that was, and we knew the timetable and he look
at lo and behold, after.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
The typical timetable for that kind of injury, he was back. Okay.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
So after reading the article, and I think it's very
worthwhile of your time to read it and kind of
getting outside opinions who clearly do not have intel on
this exact injury. They've only worked with other injuries believed
to be comparable and thus give an opinion on what
potentially could be happening. But in saying all that, like,

(27:43):
I still like, let's say, Jeremiah Randall had talked five
times about this, in addition to the twenty times that
jo Aspata and Dana Brown had talked about this, what
is it? You're like thinking, we're not getting there, We're
not getting an answer from someone who actually is involved
with it. That is a fair statement and you definitely
are missing out on that. And you're putting these two

(28:04):
other guys, the GM and the manager in a ridiculous
position that I would agree, and I think that he's
we're acting. I think some people may be acting like
he has the answers and he's withholding the answers by
not being made available for an interview, and that's not
really the case. I hope people don't see it that way.
He doesn't have the answers or else he'd be providing
them to the people that are talking and to Kyle Well.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think that the point he's making in that respect,
and there's a lot of layers to this obviously, is
you know, he says the Astros refuse to make head
athletic trainer Jeremiah Randall available for interviews, leaving Dana Brown
and Joe Espada as Tucker's unofficial spokesman. That's if you
want to say that's a zing or that's a shot
at whomever, it's a fact.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
It's a fact, not a zing. It is if you want,
you should not. In Chandler's opinion and most of us
in the media, and we talk about this all the time,
and I'm trying to rack my brain for an obvious situation.
We're like, why are you putting this person out front?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Correct on this topic, because the very next Senate says,
analyzing his actual progress Tucker is impossible without insight from
Randall or Tucker himself. Well, if those two people aren't
being made available to talk about this topic, that's it.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's a fact. So correct.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Therefore, if you have Dana Brown going out there and
saying one thing, and then Joe Aspoda coming back and
saying something else that seemingly contradicts i e. A level
of activity level or not level of pain he's dealing
with whatever, that's where people like, for example, Chandler and
us doing what we do and defan base in general,

(29:37):
are like, can we get a more clear picture on this?
And so for Chandler to say, all right, I'm going
to interview not one, not two, but three medical professionals
about this very thing and bring in other situations that
are similar, i e. Anthony Rendon in Anaheim, I get it,
because what else is he supposed to do? And I
understand that point of view as well. The thing is,

(29:59):
if they had an answer, they would not intentionally be
withholding it, in my opinion, and I think we've been
clearly showed by how their answers have changed two weeks
in four weeks, in eight weeks, in ten weeks in
they weren't. Ever, I don't think lying, and nothing that
they've said is untrue. It appeared that progress would maybe

(30:20):
be made by this point, and it isn't. It appeared
that progress would be made by this point and he
wouldn't be feeling pain and he'd be able to do this.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
He just hasn't. It's not.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I don't think they're doing some misdiagnosis, which again is
a common thread on this from outsiders.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
I am one of them.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
If they had real concrete information, if this was a
broken finger, if this was a broken arm, this was
a shoulder injury with surgery involved, they'd have a real
timetable because they would have gone in there and they
would have found whatever it was in there. They would
have found whatever else was in Maybe he had loose
bodies in there and they had to get rid of those.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I've seen that before. Things aren't.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
None of them happened, none of them. So the actual
answer they they don't even have it today. Jeremiah Randall
doesn't have the answer today. The team doctors don't have
it today. And today's August eighth, and he was hurt
on June third, So at least something has to be
acknowledged about this isn't your typical we have an answer,
we know what happened, and here's going to be the result.

(31:17):
A broken bone, a clear obvious We've done X rays.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
This is the injury.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Usually it comes with a fairly reasonably concrete timetable. Concrete
is a four to six week or eight to ten weeks.
Ever is you just haven't been presented by it with this,
and I understand why, especially when you read the article.
You can clearly understand why. And that's why it's so
good to hear from people who've dealt with what are
almost assuredly comparable situations. The end result could all be different.

(31:46):
I mean, the render injury you're talking about happened on
the fourth of July or the fourth of June, excuse me,
and any season was over, and it could be the
Kyle Tucker season could be over. But there would be
no reason for them to present us with that information
at any point, even today, because they don't know that.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Still.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Vagueness or being hard to predict has long been Houston's
hallmark when discussing injuries to any of its players.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's a fair statement.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
I totally agree it is a fair statement, and that's
why I pointed it out at the onset of this discussion.
It's not this injury as we're first finding out how
they handle their discussions of it, who's made available to
discuss it. The word discomfort is popular on this program
and in their game notes, so it's right on the
money with how they have usually handled a variety of injuries.

(32:35):
I mean, saying there's forearmed discomfort sounds soft as an injury,
like oh okay, he has discomfort. And I don't mean
it personally. I mean it doesn't sound like a harsh,
oh my god statement, he has discomfort. But it ultimately
turns into Tommy John surgery, elbow surgery, long term extended
absence surgery, and the word discomfort was used, which I

(32:58):
think gives people discomfort. I shouldn't in this one.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Again.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I think this is very, very, very different. I think
this is confounding to Tucker Brown, Espada, his teammates, the
medical staff, Jeremiah Randall, and of course you and.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Me and Chandler and Chandler, don't forget Chandler.

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Speaker 1 (34:30):
Back to the A team with Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
As we wind down the three o'clock hour here on
the eight team Sports Talk seven to ninety much consternation
over when Kyle Tucker will return.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Do you still feel like it's gonna be this month?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Today's August eighth leaves us three weeks essentially.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Deep enough into the month to ask that kind of question.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
You really feel like it that he'd be back in September,
because I do like the idea that he did not
go to Arlington for specific health and rehab related reasons.
Joe Spotted did explain that to the reasoning why he
stayed back was trying to get this work in. That's
why we've heard from Dana Brown here on Sports Talk
seven ninety yesterday morning during his nine thirty appearance on

(35:17):
the Sean Salisbury Show, which he does weekly, and obviously
a little bit from Joe before yesterday's finale, and probably
more in front of tomorrow's series beginner with the Red Six,
because the expectation is Kyle's probably with the team now
in Boston, and so a maybe more of a face
to face of exactly how he feels, how he thinks

(35:38):
things went. If you recall from Dana's interview with Sean,
he had noted, as he does from time to time,
with reports. Now he's not in Houston, he's getting reports,
he's watching videos that are sent his way or available
to him to kind of monitor the progress or get
a real handle on where things stand. So hopeful that
there's an update of some sort of value coming up

(36:00):
on Friday, But timeline wise, I said from the beginning,
and I can't believe I might even still think this now.
And it's totally up to Kyle. I would think he's
been away from it for so long. Can he just say, Okay,
I've run the bases, I've turned the corner, I've started
and stopped. I've chased down balls in the outfield. I
can turn, stop, explode, sprint, I've passed all the tests.

(36:23):
Is it possibly he could play without a rehab stint.
I think he probably could, but it definitely seems like
otherwise they plan on sending him down there, They plan
on having him play. How does he feel play? How
does he feel play two games in a row? How
does he feel? And maybe at that point, which is
probably a week's time. You play six games in a
week at the minor league level, so maybe one off,
one on one off, play both games, take the off

(36:45):
day that follows, and you're in the lineup betting fourth
behind Jordan and in front of Yiner in the very
next Astros game. We'd be pushing it in my opinion,
if that was going to take place before the end
of this month. Six more games on this road trip
and no more of nine straight on either front the
rest of the way. They have the nine game homestand
that they unfortunately performed much more poorly than they should

(37:08):
have on and now they're on a nine game road
trip and they've won two of the first three. It's
probably right at that date, the flip of this month,
in the next month, I'd probably put it right on
that number. Get him twenty nine thirty games to end
the season, roll on into the postseason as American League
Western Division champions with eighty six wins, and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Well, wait a second, if he's if he's part of things,
then maybe that win total is a little bit higher.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well, they have fifty nine today. It's the math is fuzzy.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
It would be very difficult for them to push much higher.
I'll tell you who's not six. I'll tell you who's
not winning the division. The team they just got done
taking two out of three from Well, I spent about
two weeks giving you nightly updates on Astros did this,
Mariners did this, Rangers did that.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Here's what the Al West standings look like. Two horse race.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Now, yeah, they were not in my post from last
night as soon as the final out was made in
the Detroit Seattle game.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know why because they're not in the post stage matter.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Again, like I said yesterday, I think everybody knows the
math of it all that when the Rangers play the
Red Sox or the Royals, or the Twins or Seattle,
they matter. Any other game they play doesn't matter. Only
when they play teams that are in the hunt. With
the Astros in that vein silently hope that they win.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
In that vein, you're rooting for the Rangers on those nights,
but it's for your own benefit and that's it.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Interesting Rangers note today with the Rangers moving on to
their next series, and they're trying to make this happen
as quickly as possible.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
But without pushing it. Tell me if you've heard that before.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Jacob de Gram is throwing a live BP today and
is expected, if all goes well, to have another one
during the week next week. If that also goes well,
it's probably about a two winning session the next time,
about a twenty pitch session today. Then he'll be on
a rehab assignment, which means maybe there's two more starts,
maybe four turns, three turns through their rotation again. If

(39:09):
all goes well, then he could return. The Astros got
to see the return of Tyler Malley, and the Astros
should have gotten to him, I thought early in the game.
It turned out they did not, and that's kind of
a big boost for them, and that they've now lost
Max Scherzer again. But these are the things these two pitchers,
very specifically and Josh Young their third basement. These were

(39:32):
the reasons their GM mayor management team decided against a sale,
decided against being sellers. They felt the influx of these
players back onto the roster and they were confident up
that they would get there, and we said. Max Scherzer
was asked by aj Perzinski point blank, you ready to
move on, You're ready to wave your no trade clause

(39:53):
and he says, no, we're going to get this thing going.
We're going to be in this hunt. I'm confident enough,
and that's ay, I plan on being here. They threatened
to get in the race, and I think they've since
fallen out.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Hey, yeah, I'm just I'm from that standpoint. I'm happy,
but I just I want the separation. That is just
not it's weird because we keep talking about the strength
of schedule that the Astros are going to play against
down the stretch, or let's just take the month of August,
let's take these steps here.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
It doesn't look as menacing to me as maybe it did,
say a couple weeks or two a month ago, when
I looked at this stretch.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
I think, you guys know how I see these things,
especially as it relates to Houston one series at a time. No,
and it's not quite like what it usually was, where
I didn't care and nobody should have cared who they played.
They were always the better team. They're not always the
better team now, however, when they're playing this year like
they have been, and keep this in mind, and I
keep pointing it out because it keeps being true, twenty

(40:57):
six games into the season, they were seven to nineteen.
There are one hundred and fourteen games into the season.
Now they've been the best team by record, the only
way you can measure it. Since then, that's a long
long time to go out place size the whole league, right,
meaning whoever's on your schedule that day, Yes, this is

(41:19):
who they are. The level of competition is clearly going up,
and quite honestly, it would have been nice to see
Pedro Griffall's White Sox, but unfortunately they're getting Grady size
Moors White Sox coming up.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Hopefully it won't matter, but hopefully they don't lose one
of the games this time.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Well, they have teams that they have struggled against, like
Kansas City four games left with them, teams that they
have succeeded against miraculously the Baltimore Orioles four games left
with them. Those games right there are probably the ones
that stand out the most, because even though they have
three games left with the Guardians, and the Guardians quite
honestly might end up with the best record, I don't

(41:54):
know what those games are gonna mean, and I'm kind
of not happy that the Twins and Royals are both
within four games of their lead, where the Guardians have
been all year. I'm not real happy that the Guardians, Yankees,
and Orioles are separated by a half game. To be honest,
with the unplanned this whole year that the last series
of the season wasn't going to matter to Cleveland. They

(42:15):
were going to be locked in at one, they were
going to be locked in as division champs at two,
and now doesn't look like either of those things are
going to happen. When the Astros wrap up their home
schedule against Seattle without having clinched a playoff spot yet
and now have to face a team potentially trying to
clinch their division, clinch home field in that opening series,

(42:35):
or the number one seed, all while they host Houston.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It is interesting that just one season later, the AL
Central is it's not a dog fight in the sense
that well, I mean it's not the dogfight that the
Ale East is, for example at the top. I mean
it could be that's that's up for anybody. That division
is up for either of.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
These to being tied with one hundred and fifteen games
to go, mix it anyone's game. Is that what you're
saying you're saying they're that close one hundred and fifteen.
They're one hundred and fifteen games in and they have
the same record. Oh I thought you said on hundred
and fifteen to go. Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, it's
and they're both good teams. But I mean, I don't
even know what the scenario would be that would be
better in that sense. But I digress.

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Speaker 3 (45:03):
Finding was you worried?

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(45:27):
to hold off Germany, so the home team and Victor
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gold on their home court in front of their home
fans against the United States of America. Not to dismiss

(45:49):
what did take place, the American team trailed after the
first quarter. Then they were outscored in the second quarter,
so they still trailed. Then they were outscored in the
third quarter, so they still trailed, and then they outscored
Serbia by seventeen points in the fourth quarter, took the
lead with a couple of minutes to go, held off
one final last late charge, and as expected, advanced to

(46:12):
the gold medal game.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
At least inspiring dream non team.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
No, they have faced one team that had a chance
to beat them, and that was today. And I do
think their matchups with Serbia, and we noted it when
it happened in exhibition play, was one reason Bogdanovitch did
not play in that exhibition game.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Another reason.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
It didn't mean anything to Serbia or the United States
in the exhibition game, and this one did mean something,
and you couldn't I don't really think Serbia could have
played any I'm sure they played exactly the way they
wanted to. This is exactly what they hoped to happen.
They also were flaming hot, shooting over fifty five percent

(46:52):
from behind the three point line through the first two
and a half quarters of this game. Still ended up
shooting a pretty good percentage, but that's their own chance.
They played great, and the United States team got super
focused defensively, basically just in time. They stopped giving up
the easier looks, they stopped giving up points and makes,
and they.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Made their way back.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Steph Curry was even hotter than anybody on Serbia in
the opening quarter, scored fourteen points in about three minutes.
He had the only field goals for Team USA for
about four minutes of this game, finished with thirty six points.
He's done things like that many times before on the court.
The other part of this and didn't really play out,
but it could if they were in another tight game

(47:34):
like this. You know they can finish games with Steph
on the court essentially automatic from the free throw line,
Devin Booker on the court, same, Kevin Durant on the court, same.
So this is something that you know, I'm always looking
at that when when the Rockets have been in games
late and you know who do you foul and what
do you do? And always hated Phoenix specifically because it

(47:56):
seems like for about fifteen years worth of matchups, no
matter what you did, you could not prevent them from
inbounding the ball to Steve Nash ninety percent free throw shooter.
And now currently they happen to have both Booker and
Durant and it's almost impossible to prevent that. So when
they're in these types of games, and they did have
the lead late, they didn't want to foul late in
the game because Steph Curry had the ball in the

(48:17):
final possession, they let him run the entire shot clock off,
and then they fouled him, and of course he made
his two free throws, and that's why what we heard
there was an attempt to get it within one which
went awry. So they won by four ninety five.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Ninety one, and we had to stare at his mouthpiece
for every one of those free throws.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I don't know about that. I wasn't even watching the
free throws. Put in your mouth or don't have it.
It's just a great reason to hate him.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Hey, there's many, that's one of them. I don't care
what anybody says.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I hope.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I wonder if Steve Kerr will get questions he got
earlier in the tournament. Yeah, I noticed you guys struggle
a little bit today. How come no Jason Tatum, to
which he would say, you're kidding right.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
You know what ironic thing is somebody actually wrote this,
If Joel Embiid doesn't get that passport, USA doesn't win
this game.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
He was one keeping them afloat.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
This was the first time I thought he was a
very positive impact player for his team.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
He was very good today.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
It was very difficult for anyone on Serbia's team to
kind of hold off. He was the much more important
big of their three. And it wasn't even close. Bam
barely played Anthony Davis. The two of them combined played
seven fewer minutes than Joel. He scored nineteen points, they
scored four. They took three shots. Actually, a matchup that

(49:34):
turned in their favor is what coach Kerr went with.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
And he was on the court at the end of
the game.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
It's crazy, though, because other than Kevin Durant and that
I mean, he didn't even score in double digits. It
was just basically those three guys. It was Lebron, it
was Curry, and it was Joel Embiid. I mean seventy
one of their ninety five. They got nothing from anybody
else outside of Durant.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
When you get seventy one points from three players, that's
usually good. I mean, they would have blown out everybody
else in this tournament in my opinion, and I do
not expect their next game to be as close as
this game. I think this was the team most capable
of beating them. I think Germany was even worse than France,
so I'm not surprised that Franz beat them. In terms
of having a chance to beat Team USA. I think
France is missing some of the things that are needed,

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which is the shooting that Serbia showed today. I don't
think they'll have that or even close, and once that
is out the window, there's just no you can't beat them.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I don't. They'll be able to protect the rim if
they want. I don't.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
They did go a lot of twin towers today against Germany,
but Germany's throwing the ball inside to Daniel Tice or
one of the Wagners, so it's a little different than
what Team USA and I will say one thing about
Germany that impressed me today. They have both France and
Maritz Wagner on the team. They went a chem Olajuan

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style with their jerseys. On the back of Maritz's jersey
it said Maritz. On the back of Franz's jersey, it
said Franz last names for every other player on the team.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I guess that makes it easier for the commentators.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
That's the I'm not gonna even allow for you to
say why they did it.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
They wear numbers. I mean seriously, usually the end, what
if their names are both the same and they wear
different numbers. That's not enough. But I found it to
be cool.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
They lost, So you're saying the should get in the NBA.
They get to play for the bronze medal.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Oh that's good. How many times is Victor gonna get
dunked on?

Speaker 5 (51:24):
I'm gonna take I'll go with I'll set the over
under at one and a half that he actually gets
dunked on, because that also means he has to be
challenging at the rim. He did that a few times
today against Germany. I don't know how many times he's
gonna do that against Team U.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
So that's the thing. I know there's been a lot
of candidates. I know there's been a lot of candidates,
not just as far as dunks, but as far as players.
Is Vince Carter's dunk still the greatest in game dunk
you've ever seen in a basketball game, considering the stature.
I mean, Tracy McGrady did that to Sean Bradley, but
he didn't jump over him. He just kind of threw
it down on him on the base.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
One of them sucked the gravity out of the building.
So I have to lean towards that a little.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Frederick Weis, Yeah, they I think it was NBC maybe
as part of their Olympics coverage because the games are
on NBC and the games are in France. I think
it's them that did a fifteen minute piece or so
on Frederic Weiss because of this dunk and what's happened
to him in his life.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
He's had issues with his children, some of the problems physically.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
He's had serious depression, mental issues, thoughts of suicide because
it was dunk in the embarrassment, and he's gotten over
all that. He has another child on the way, he's
married again. He does broadcasting work for their games. I
think he had some of the Olympic work under on
his plate, so it was good to see all that.
But we see one side of it, and there was

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the nixt aspect of it to it. Because he was
the first round pick. He never came over, he never played.
This was always baggage for him. The answer to your
question is yes, because have we seen an Anthony Wards
like dunk before. Sure, we see all those dunks. This
stands alone. What's the other dunk?

Speaker 3 (53:04):
You compare it to? Where's the other dunk?

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Where a guy's jumping over somebody in a game or
in the Olympics, Well, what's the other one?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Are we comparing it? But not a seven to six guy. Well,
guys have.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Been jumped like Andre Turner, some five foot eleven guard,
or somebody in a dunk contest, or somebody on the
pavement at a competition. This is an in game, in
competition in the Olympics against what people thought was an
NBA player, and yes, a seven footer and he just
went up and over it. But you know, even described it,
he's like he doesn't really remember it or see it

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because he closed his eyes and he thought, okay, he
may maybe he dunked it, I guess because I thought
he was gonna hit me and now and then I
see it, and then I realized what everybody else has seen,
and that's kind of when it's sunk in the Again,
was probably gonna.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Ask far be it from me, because clearly I've never
been put in that.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Situation, even at the house on the nerve hoop. No.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, I mean, I guess technically I would be seven
to six esque compared to my son, but he's already
halfway up.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I mean, even when you were a kid. But I'm
thinking to myself, if.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
You're not dunking on your kid already, are you trash
talking him too?

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Last night he was a well last night he was
acting like an absolute lunatic because he was being asked
to brush his teeth and put his pajamas on to
go to bed, and those are very simple tasks that
shouldn't take long to do. And after the fortieth time
for myself, my wife and his sister asking him to
do this, I finally lost it and just basically didn't

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ask nicely, and he started doing the fake cry thing
to try and get sympathy from the two females in
the room and they weren't having it. He knows suicide
they would be on. So I was of course talking
trash in that way. I was figuratively dunking on him.
But no, it builds character. No, yeah, exactly puts hair
on your chest.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
But as it pertains to this, like you kind of
know there's a chance of getting embarrassed when you're on
an Olympic team and you're playing against any of the
Americans at any given time in any given Olympics that
when you say to me, I had no idea all
that was happening or had happened. That reminds me of
like Bartman, but the difference being all he did was

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kind of reach out to try and catch a foul
ball in the stands. He didn't sign up to go
play against them because he was chased out of town effectively.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
There is a documentary on all that. Yep, it's depressing.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
I don't remember was was Alu interviewed and commented on that.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I don't remember that part.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I I if he was Dan, Yes, he was like
extensively yeah, like down in the in the Dominican to
talk about it.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah he was. Wow, he did make it worse. I
don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Of course he did, because why wouldn't he. Oh, I
didn't catch it. No big deal, it's no big deal.
Just playoff game.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
It's okay. The fan almost got the ball. That's worth it.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
I don't mind. I'll sign one for you after the game.
More Olympic memories coming up next.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
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Speaker 1 (56:31):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler. THEA Team now continues.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
By the way, wex and everyone else who cares two
thirty this Saturday will be the gold medal game that
we were talking about between the US and Frands but
we were talking last segment about Frederick Weiss and the
dunk Vince Carter had over him. This is the two
thousand Olympics, I believe is when that happened, which is

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the that's crazy because it was the same year. If
that's true, that the dunk contest, in my opinion, that
was the greatest of all time. I know Dominique in
MJ in eighty eight, and I know that there's been
some some good ones since. But pound for pound, I
thought Vince and uh and Tracey McGrady as members of
the Raptors with a trio of Steve Francis and those

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two was pound for pound the best competition.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Just the dunks were insane in that thing.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Anyway, Uh, Jason's on the phone lines from Mount and
Katie at seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three, two one two five seven ninety
You want to talk about some of his I guess
favorite classic dunks. What's going on, Jason.

Speaker 8 (57:44):
Back in the eighty three tournament where they lost North
Carolina State, cli Gregsford did that. I don't remember what
round or what team they were playing. I remember I
was watching the game and he jumped over and it
was everybody went crazy. Then they showed the reverse angle
and he cleared the guy's head by two or three inches.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
It's funny that I actually mentioned the name Andre Turner
during this discussion. If you were listening very very closely.
It was against Memphis in the tournament as a Cougar,
and he dunked over a very short soon to be
future rocket, Andre Turner, and guess that is a very memorable,
tremendous end game competition postseason throatout.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
It's funny that you called Jason to mention Clyde because
I was just just scrolling Twitter the other day. I
came across one of those vintage NBA accounts that I
follow and they were like talking and they had it
was obviously there's video as a montage of just how
ridiculous Clyde was, especially in his early days in Portland.

(58:50):
And you know, we all know about the Last Dance,
and I know this is going to surprise everybody, but
Jordan being compared to Clyde, he took that personally his words.
But there is a reason for that, and there was
a reason that they were mentioned in the same breath,
much like Kobe and Tracy McGrady were for like three
seasons there before Tracy came to Houston and then his
injuries caught up with him. They used to go at it.

(59:13):
But you'll know this probably better than iwood Wex didn't
Clyde like make change on the top of the backboard
on on a hoop that was like eleven feet tall
or something stupid like that during his.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Days of age.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Well, I don't know the exact specifics of the story,
but I think you know what I'm talking.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
I think he was involved with dunking on a rim
that was much higher than ten ten feet. Yeah, and
I don't want anyone to help not date me because
I should have said it accurately. The first time of
dunk against Andre Turner. Of course, back in the eighties
when they were known as Memphis State makes sense changed
obviously to Memphis.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I did not know that, yes.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
But I think during the era where he was leading
the Blazers to the NBA finals, Yeah, and at his peak,
they both basically I think they played the same position.
Maybe they did a little differently within the frame we're
going their respective teams shooting guards.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
That did it all. I think because of how great
Jordan was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
I actually think people thought less of Drexler than they
should have, because of course he wasn't as good as him,
nowhere near as good as him, But that didn't mean
he wasn't awesome. And I feel like for what he
was able to do while not being an elite shooter,
which most people thought was was going to prevent him
from ever being great in the NBA, I mean he

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found a way to have seasons where he's gone for
and this is back in the eighties twenty seven, eight
and six among the league leaders and steals averages they
scored twenty seven the year he was fifth in the
MVP of eighty eight eighty seven eighty eight twenty seven points,
seven boards, six assists.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Okay, hang on a second. The MVP that year was who,
I mean, you're brilliant at this, aren't you? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
No, I know, for the purposes of our conversation, it's
obvious was Jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
He got the MVPA.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
Yes, Jordan first, followed by Larry. Three other Dream teamers
that are nowhere near as good as this dream team
as we all know, Jordan, Bird, Magic, Barkley, Drexler so fourth,
O Clyde finished fifth, while receiving zero first place votes.
That's how good the upper echelon of the league was.
He finished fifth in the MVP voting, behind Barkley, Magic Bird,

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and Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Could you even tell me who the top five were
this year for the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I think so, can't you?

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Those five are gonna play those five well, and one
team is going to get.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Mopped up well this year other than Luca's inability to
get his team to the Olympics. One guy played today
and lost, Nikola Jokic. Germany beat Canada in their last game.
That's Sga. He finished second. Grease was in the tournament.
He finished fourth, Luke obviously was third, and Timosa is

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so awesome. The guys that finished fifth and sixth neither
of them played today, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brunson, who's
not even on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Jalen Brunt Wow, he got.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Six, he was They were five and six.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Neither of them got a first place vote, so all
their votes just tallied up to land them in five
or six, but nobody voted them as the MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I know they won a landslide. Yeah, no, I know that.
Everybody's trying to make the Knicks happen. Well, no, let
me let me rephrase that the Knicks are already good.
They're trying to make McHale Bridges is the last piece,
the missing piece happen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
That's what's going on this offseason.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
They were missing also missing Robinson for time and Randall
for a ton of time, including every playoff game. So
if Randall's healthy and in the playoffs, if Bridges is
healthy in the playoffs, and clearly all the players that
were healthy and in the playoffs, I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Think they're ready for a super hot take. I think
they can offset the loss of Isaiah Hartenstein.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
You ready for a super high take about the Nick?
Since I know we planned this ahead of the show today.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Ask it says right here on the Rundown four twenty
three fifteen Talk Knicks Basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
After Brunson, Julius Randall is by far their next best player.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
By far hotter take.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Their most important player this postseason after Jalen Brunson was
Josh Hart.

Speaker 9 (01:03:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I can see that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
And even if Randall returns and plays very well, it
will still be Josh Hart. He does too many things
to help them win games. He's like a super role player.
And now they have two of them, because Bridge is
going to be the very same way. He's probably gonna
score fourteen points a game, but maybe he gets twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
One seed night.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
But that's why I'm talking to open threes, which not
enough of their guys were doing. They were counting on
de Vincenzo to have great games every night, which he
clearly can't do. Now they have a little bit of
a buffer to get there. But your your your best
player is very small, and it's very hard to maintain
that level of play with that much activity. I mean,
his usage rate is through the roof for how many

(01:04:00):
seven game series.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It's hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
But because I'm way too familiar with how the NBA
and more importantly, how the media that covers it works,
I can already see this happening. First of all, they're
trying to they're trying to gaslight us that Michale Bridges
is a superstar to begin with. If he was, you
would have absolutely won way more games in Brooklyn than
you did. You just would have by default you would

(01:04:24):
have won more games than you did. But now now
that he's on this Knicks team, you know the new
narrative is going to be well. Of course, he's not
putting up big superstar numbers. He's on the team with
these guys over here. That will be the built in excuse.
I'm not saying he's not a good player. I'm just
laughing at how many people nationally, especially that cover the NBA,
are trying to make me believe that Mikale Bridges is

(01:04:46):
this just amazing player.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
He's just not. He's just a good guy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
I don't know how many actual media people are on
that train, on that narrative, because I think it's got
to be a super super super tiny group, if at all.
He's had one arkable scoring season his whole career. It
was his first year in Brooklyn, and he wasn't that
great of an all around player, very good defensive player. People,
he scored a bunch of points. Guess why, because nobody
else on the team last year they were awful and

(01:05:14):
he personally also individually had in my opinion, the worst
year of his career.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
But he's a superstar. No, but that they're not. They're nobody.
I'll tell you a lot of I'm absolutely sure they did.
And you know who. A lot of them are people
with egg avatars.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
You know who.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
A lot of them are Rockets fans that wanted the
Rockets to trade back for him?

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
I mean so I indirectly, you just made it sound
like I insulted Rockets fans on Twitter. Did which if
they said that I did? Yeah, no you did, but
you weren't. They're not the only ones. There were only
two current voices, yours and mine, and neither one of
us thinks he's a superstar, and we're both right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Isn't it great? I love being right, especially when it
comes to the MP can be a.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Key player on a very very good team, potentially a
championship team, but he's not. Ever If he's the best
player on your team, you're sunk. If he's the second
best player on your team, you're probably also sunk. He's
somewhere between third or fourth on what could be a
very good Knicks team. This is this is a good
trade for them. They're trying to win now, very competitive East.
They're way worse than the Celtics talent wise, They're probably

(01:06:19):
able to compete with anybody else, the Sixers, the Bucks,
the Calves, the Heat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I would I'm interested to see what the Sixers are
with Paul George, even at this advanced stage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
In his career, also the third best player on his team. Yeah,
well that's what he's gonna say.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Huge, there's zero should be zero pressure on him and
he should be looked at third when it's down to
the crunch time off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Any game should not stand for pressure.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
When Tyre's Maxi is in foul trouble or draws three defenders,
then you can give it to Paul George. When Joel
EMBII draws three defenders and isn't playing a two man
game with Maxi, then you can find a wide open George.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
He should absolutely be a defensive stalwart. He should be
the anti lebron On.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
I think that's harder and harder for them to him personally,
anyone at that age to be a defensive stopper.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
He's he is older.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
But if you're spending your energy on that endo the
floor because the other two guys are taking the scoring
burden and there's other role players that can do that,
I think that's a good approach For Darryl Morey's latest
installment of a would be championship contender. We will get
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Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
A new signature segment called What's up with That? What's
up with that? What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I's say it was up that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Time for us to hit on what's up with that?
Here's signature segment time on a Thursday edition of The
A Team, And we get to do to do two
different things, kind of bringing actually something else from another
show which normally shows up on Wednesday's BS.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
But I'll get to that in a moment.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
We get to choose which What's up with that to
use on the same person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Do we choose the already.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Ruled upon element of his past or the yet to
be ruled on element of his past. Well, we'll take
number one since he's responded to number two, and we'll
kind of combine them. We're talking about the new head
coach of the Chargers in the NFL. That's John Harborough's
brother Jim, fresh off his triumph here in Houston, Michigan

(01:09:17):
in the postseason last year on the Gridiron, rolling into
the h taking down Washington, and Jim Harbaugh has a
national title with his alma Water and as expected, he
promptly says, I'm a Michigan man. I can't wait to
take all that money that the NFL is going to
give me now. And he's the new head coach of
the Chargers, dealing with Justin Herbert's bum foot.

Speaker 7 (01:09:38):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
The NCAA did rule on something regarding Jim Harbaugh and
the University of Michigan earlier this week. Sent out these
sanctions that are going to hit Michigan and hit Jim
Harbaugh with a show cause of four years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
And even if he were to be hired, he would
be unable.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
To work for an entire year in any capacity with
whatever school hired him. Granted, it rings a little bit hollow,
even though it's hilarious to read about how he handled
all of this, which is why it actually turned into
a level one violation. What he actually did wrong only
a level two violation. How he handled the investigation turned

(01:10:19):
it into a level one. But he's never going back
to college again. He never was once he got this job.
This was going to be it for him. He's going
to be rich. He might even get an extension, they
might even win. So the punishment headed his way will
never be served, and so he'll ring a little bit hollow.
But the other scandal going on there, which is yet
to be ruled upon, a draft came out to indicate

(01:10:41):
how involved was the Michigan coaching staff involved in the
Connor Stallions escapades visiting other team sidelines repeatedly disguising himself
on the sidelines repeatedly and getting information that under the
collegiate sign stealing rules. What a great topic here on
the A team they were breaking the rules. There's things

(01:11:02):
you can do things you can't do in person. Stuff
and advanced scouting and attendance at games. It's a really
silly way to do it. And if you listened to
some of the coaches this offseason specifically because this whole
Stallion's escapade came to the forefront, they said, I mean,
maybe you know, give us headsets that we can talk
to our quarterbacks so we're not holding up placards with

(01:11:23):
ducks and timberwolves and women in bikinis on it to
send the signals in. There's probably a pretty easy way
to get through. Even the Major League Baseball people figured out,
I don't know, maybe if we give a piece of
technology to our pitchers and catchers, we can get rid
of signs stealing essentially for all intents and purposes. Yeah,
it's pretty simple. But it did happen. I think we

(01:11:45):
all know what happened. The amount that Jim Harbaugh knew
about it is kind of all that's up for debate.
And he was asked if he had a comment on
the initial draft report regarding what Michigan was doing nefarious
was so, Jim, do you have a comment?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:12:04):
I do have comment on that never lie, never cheat,
never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have
raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that
lesson to the teams that I've coached. No one's perfect.
If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,

(01:12:31):
I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So for me,
it's back to work and attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Mankind, enthusiasm unknown to mankind. And now we play America's
favorite game show, Believe it or not? How about you, Dan,
believe it or not not? Yeah, you're a smart Dan,
You're a smart person. It's going to look pretty silly
when he or somebody associated with him has to release

(01:13:08):
a statement that contradicts what he just said, because I
do believe it will happen. I found the one word,
the use of the word today in front of I
do not apologize. He's almost forecasting the fact that some
other day in the future he will apologize. And now
he's made it even worse. You know, that's literally what
took place in the other issue that I was talking about.

(01:13:29):
How he made it into a level two violation, or
he raised the level of infraction because of how he
handled it, because of the lies that he told that
they know he's telling. They have the evidence telling them
that what he's saying to them is untrue, that he's
providing them with false information, that he's very uncooperative. Imagine
that a former Michigan quarterback not being cooperative in an

(01:13:53):
investigation that would never happen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
I pointed that out as well.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Sorry, Tom, sorry to drag you into this, but this
guy is like coaches in some ways, but I think
he's at the top of the list in this one way.
Full of himself.

Speaker 9 (01:14:10):
Well it's also too I mean, I think he realizes
that he's too big to fail. N C double A
is not going to go after Michigan.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
Well kind of this has anything to do with him anymore,
for the same reasons he won't whether the show cause
means nothing, whatever happens to Sharon Moore or any of
the other coaches there or the university. And I do
think all of them are going to be punished in
some way, which is it's terrible and it looks it's
awful for Harbaugh to have done it all and left
him in this way, but every other coach would do

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the same thing. So yeah, he can be all above
it and puff his chest out and lie to us
all about his involvement in it because it won't matter.

Speaker 9 (01:14:46):
Well, it's also too, I mean, the beauty of what
we've learned of the past. Johnny Manziel taught us n
C double A doesn't have subpoena power. So they come
knocking out your door, tell them get off my porch.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Well, they subpoena rite with the investigation, for sure, but
it wouldn't have even mattered if they he did. For Harbaugh,
he's not governed by them. He's never going to be
governed by them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Again.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
It's unfortunate that they don't have any way to do it.
I guess when someone is so off base like this,
but we've seen it. It happens all the time. I
don't work for you anymore. I'm not under your and heck,
their arm of enforcement is so laughable to begin with.
To think we're on the NCAA side is comical in
and of itself. But most of what Jim Harbaugh, I

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guess he's very much like the sorry attorney jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
How do you know when they're lying when they open
their mouth?

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
And while his teams clearly from Stanford, San Diego State,
the Niners, the Wolverines, and presumably the Chargers. Now, they
absolutely buy in. He does a good job of coaching
his players to play winning football. But man, not only
is he like I know this is very popular to

(01:15:57):
call leaders weird in these days, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
But I didn't even have anything to do with it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
He is going to be the king of say what
for however many years he's in this league. He's going
to be the king of what's up with that? For
however many years he's a coach in this league. And
I'm not yet ready to say they're going to win,
even though I think they can. I think they need
to do something with what's around Herbert again, as they're

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overhauling everything again. But how far down the list are
they just back to the football briefly? Like they're tenth
eleventh in a sixteen team conference with the seventh eighth
best quarterback maybe in the conference, in a conference full
of young still five, six, seven, eight, ten years of

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a lot of people pretend it is, at least in
my mind.

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Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
If you want a hint.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
But what dunk did the caller bring up? Name either
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our nice city when you expand it to Sugarland. As expected,
the announcement has been made that JV will be pitching
at Constellation Field in a Space Cowboys uniform on Saturday
in what is expected to be the first of two

(01:20:22):
rehab appearances. He's already made to rehab appearances this season
at a different time for a different injury recovery. Expectation
is after throwing thirty seven pitches earlier this week and
feeling very good about it, it will send him into
this rehab start, presumably in the fifty fifty five pitch
a neighborhood. If things continue progressing the way he's hoping.

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If all goes well there against Saturday night over at
Constellation Field, well, then he will return, go through his
side session in between starts, and presumably be sent out
on a second rehab start the following week. I just
pointed this out because I was already looking ahead pointing
this out on Twitter a moment ago. When they schedule

(01:21:04):
his second rehab appearance, I think the choice is obvious,
but it's not a very good one no matter what
they choose. Pretty sure, while the Astros are playing either
in Houston or out East, they don't really have any
interest in sending him to Tacoma to have him pitch
for the Space Cowboys. When they're on the road, which
is where they will be next week, which is when

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his second rehab appearance would come up. I doubt they
want him pitching in Northwest Arkansas either, but they probably
don't have much of a choice. That's where Corpus Christy
will be if they merely want his pitches to be
thrown and they don't care whose uniform he's wearing or
against what team he's pitching against. I mean, they could
send him to Fayetteville or Asheville, both of those teams

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are on the road in Augusta and against Rome, respectively.
Like I said, the options from a travel aspect are
all awful. One that's the least awful and probably will
be chosen, will be a trip to pitch for Corpus
if I were to guess, and at Central Arkansas, and
then hopefully after that his next appearance will be in

(01:22:11):
the uniform he should have hopefully been wearing a little
bit more this year than it turned out he was
able to in what quite honestly looks like his last
year with Houston. When he spoke this week, and as
he's spoken as he's gone through this second in season injury,
he continues to talk like he's not anticipating being done

(01:22:33):
with Baseball National broadcast that the Astros were on, they
had him on during the game and they asked him
about personal accomplishments in his future, and it's the same
one that we've heard from him before, three hundred wins.
But he also notes very accurately he's not on the
cusp of three hundred wins. He's not about to hit
that threshold. He doesn't need one more good season to

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get there. There's a lot of baseball in his future
if he expects to be on the mound with two
hundred and ninety nine wins looking for three hundred. So
he's going to be looking for a contract next year.
He needs forty wins to get to three hundred. That's
bare minimum three seasons, I think, possibly more. But are

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the Astros going to be in the market to offer
him any deal this offseason? Numbers wise, how many bodies
they'll have. You could probably sell me on that if
you were listening closely to Dana Brown earlier this week
with Sean Salisbury, he acknowledged how important Luis Garcia is
to their future and how that might play in to
how he's handled the final fifty some odd games of

(01:23:37):
this season, and that they kind of feel like they
pushed him already once in this process, and should they
do it again, they might end up going in the
wrong direction on that, not only for this year, but
for his future. So I'm not saying this is what
he said, because he didn't. But airing on the side
of caution would be let's just get Luis Garcia ready
to pitch as a starter next year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Spencer Araghetti will be.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Back, Hunter Brown will be back, Renel Blanco will be back,
presumably from ber Valdez will be back. There's another year
of club control for him, and you probably really can't
count on anything, even though you might get something from
Christian Javier and or Jose or Keaty or Keaty not
outside of club control yet. But just one more year remains,

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and I do believe the Astros and he will have
an agreement on another season, even though his health suggests
he might not be able to participate. And as they
saw this year, counting on these injured players that were
already there going into the season has turned out to
be not seeing them at all thus far during the season.
In the case of both Garcia and Lance McCullers junior
JP France's timeline is still way off in the distance. Also,

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you say Kakuchi is heading into free agency, So from
a number standpoint, purely, who can we hand the ball
to make starts for us? Yeah, you could sell me
on the idea that justin Verland or might make some sense.
The contract that he got to years ago from the
Mets was already way too rich for the Astros blood
and I thought they made the right decision on that
quite clearly. I don't think he's going to see another

(01:25:07):
contract offer quite like that, but if he's asking for
something that he thinks is befitting of a Hall of
Fame pitcher, that might make the decision for them. He's
not going to reach the vesting option on his deal,
which would push him into a contract year, so he'd
be under contract with the Astros with the Mets paying
a chunk of that. So he'll basically be a free

(01:25:30):
agent at the end of the season, but quite possibly
pitching again for the Astros, maybe as soon as fifteen sixteen,
twenty games from now, before the end of this month. Again,
if all goes well on that front. Hopefully things continue
to go well for the five healthy current starters. The
Astros have had tons of starting pitching injuries quite obviously,

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but as soon as they basically got to the end
of the line before they had to turn to aj
Bluebaugh or Ryan Whuston, so they've stopped seeing their starters
getting hurt. The five guys that were in the rotation,
when you include Jake bloss they managed to make every start.
And now the Kokuchi's here back to five and again

(01:26:13):
knock on whatever you want to, they've been able to
answer the bell and they're catching a little bit of
a break with the schedule, the addition of Kokuchi, an
extra day here, an.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Opportunity to catch a little rest there.

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It matters as they try to navigate these final fifty
five games, especially if or fifty seven games, if justin
Verlanders still and likely is three weeks away, those things
do matter. But it does look like at least on
the surface and hopefully since his last rehab starts, while
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Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
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Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
Five o'clock hour begins most days. That means here on
the A Team it's football at five and Wednesdays we
talk with Chandler Rome unless the Astros are playing, which
was the case yesterday. So that's where we are today,
a visit from the Athletics Chandler Rome covering the Astros
and Major League Baseball. Chandler, You've already been discussed on
the program today for obvious reasons, with what you wrote

(01:28:30):
earlier today about the cloudiness of the situation regarding an
injury like the one Tucker has, and the additional cloudiness
brought forth by the manner in which it's not being
discussed by the team whom he plays for. What were
you able to discern from outsider's perspectives that you were
able to share with people who took the smart time

(01:28:51):
and read it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
I think the thing I was trying to accomplish was
just that, you know, when you hear like a own bruise,
or when you just hear Bruce in general, you don't
think of it as a serious matter. And I knew
there had to be some reason why a high level
professional athlete who has really never been hurt before has
been out almost three months with a bruise, and it

(01:29:17):
was it was actually pretty enlightening to talk to medical
professionals and talk to people that do this on a
daily basis, that understand and have an understanding of kind
of what this injury is, how difficult it can be
to come back from. And I think it's important to
note and as I wrote in there, you know, none
of these none of the three physicians I talked to
have treated Kyle Tucker, none of them have seen him.

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They were just speaking kind of in generalities about what
this injury is and why it can be so difficult
to put any sort of timeline on And I thought
it was I thought it was productive. I thought it
was I learned from it. I hope people that read
it did. But I think it just kind of underscores
kind of what they're dealing with that they it's impossible

(01:30:02):
to put a timeline on this thing. It really is
all about Kyle Tucker pain tolerance. For one and two.
You know that they've got to get him running, they've
got to get him doing explosive movements. They've got to
get him going laterally inside to side, things like that,
and those are the things that these as these surgeons said,

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that's the stuff that hurts the most. That's stuff that
hurts the nerves. That's stuff that hurts you know, the
bone and everything. And there are risks if you push
it and you tell them to quote unquote play through pain.
There there are a lot of risks involved in that.
So it's a tough spot. It's a tough spot for
the astros to be in. It's a tough spot for
Kyle Tucker, who I'm sure wants to play, but it's

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it's just that this is just going to prevent it
for the time being.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
You kind of sounded like you were headed down this
path to begin with. I think a lot of people
probably think the same thing. Is you know, purely speculative,
but I would imagine there has to be some incredible
on the astro side and Tucker's side as well, that
when the okay comes and when the clearance comes, even
though that's been gained, the concern that well, when he

(01:31:11):
plays in a game something of grave nature is ultimately
potentially the end result.

Speaker 7 (01:31:17):
Well, and I think that's why they're taking this so
slow because they don't want to take that risk. I mean,
this is a guy that he's very important to them,
not only this year but next year. I mean, he's
he's the When he went out, he was the best
hitter on the team, but if you look at war,
he's still the best player on the team, and they
can't risk I don't care how far they fall in

(01:31:39):
the standings. I don't care if they fall out of
first place. Things like, they can't risk putting him out
there if he's not one hundred percent, if he's not
if the doctors and the training staff's not confident that
he can go out there. So you know, I'll be
interested to see if he's in Tampa. He is from there,
as I think everyone knows he likes to go home
and see his family and stuff, So I think he's

(01:32:01):
going to be in Tampa with the team. Maybe he'll
be able to talk then and give us a little
bit more of an update, because the last couple of
days in Arlington, all we heard was that he was progressing,
and they struck an optimistic tone. And it's kind of
funny how the tone changes to optimism when Tucker's not
with the team and reporters can't see what he's doing,
and there's no real way to verify that he's actually improving.

(01:32:23):
So until we lay eyes on him, and until we
actually get to see kind of the fruits of what
they're talking about, I can't really tell you much about
what's going to happen next.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
As the team has come in and out of the
trade deadline and into this second series on this nine
game road trip, essentially four changes have been made with
the addition of Yusei Kakuchi, and he's now made two starts.
Caleb Ferguson's been out there a couple of times out
of their bullpen. They brought up pedro Leone and after
he sat a couple of days, made his major league

(01:32:53):
debut and played in three consecutive games. And now they've
done the same with Zach Decenzo, who's played in both games.
He's been a part of the team for first game
as a DH, then his second game, picking up his
first major league hit, reaching base three times, scoring twice,
and each of the three times he smacked the baseball,
he had hard hit ball written all over each of
those three. So we'll start at the back end. What

(01:33:15):
do you think the immediate future plans are for Desenzo
with Joe Aspada.

Speaker 7 (01:33:20):
I think they're gonna keep playing him. I mean, they
need a spark, they need somebody to get hot and
kind of keep going. And I think they think Dezenzo
is that guy. At someone you know with the team
tell me this week that they that they view him
as their best hitter in the system outside of the
major league guys, obviously, but they've used act Zenzo as

(01:33:41):
their best hitter in the system. And I know he
only played eleven games in Triple A, but the numbers
were what they were. You saw it yesterday. He he
hits the ever living snot out of the ball, but
it's a matter of can he make contact with the ball.
He's had some swinging this problems. He's had some some
chase problems, but they think he can control the strike

(01:34:04):
zone enough. And he has his bat speed is some
of the best, you know in the minor leagues. I'll
be interesting to see when we get a full sample
size of his swings up here kind of to compare
those to major league what what other major leaguers do.
But he's got a ton of bat speed, has a
ton of power. You know that double yesterday, his first
big league hit would have been out and minute made

(01:34:24):
part would have been out to the Crawford boxes. So
he'll hit there. They just have to hope that maybe
he can catch fire. I could see them d hing
him a good bit. He's played at first base yesterday.
I could see him getting a good bit of first
base run. And I think his addition, you know, Joe
spot is gonna have to be creative with how he

(01:34:45):
maneuvers his lineup because I don't think they want to
give up on John Singleton. I think John Singleton's still
gonna play a good bit. They could d h him.
I think they want to play Victor Carratini a little
bit more, which would mean having both of the catchers
in the lineup, which would mean moving Jordon Alvarez to
left field. I don't want to say he's gonna be
there on a permanent basis, but I think you're gonna

(01:35:05):
see a lot more Jordon Alvarez in left field, just
given how this roster is constructed, given their desperate need
for offense, and given the fact that you know, Victor
Kartini gives him a spark when he's in there. Zactes
Enzo the same sort of thing. So you could see
a lot of creative lineups here going forward, maybe a
good bit of Jordon Alvarez in the outfield, just because
they need to find a group of nine guys that

(01:35:28):
can get it together offensively and start producing a little
bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
Chandlerome joining us here on the A team covers the
Astros for the Athletic before I get to the two
left handed pitchers they acquired. Since you brought up this
idea that I've discussed the last couple of days, do
you think it's a real discussion the Astros are having
internally in light of the fact I agree they should
have Kerottini and Diaz's bat in the lineup often, do
you think they would consider dfaing and Ledmis Diaz and

(01:35:54):
putting Sasar Salazar back on this roster.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
I think they need to consider calling up Saysar Salas
are who As far as whose roster spot he takes,
As far as whether it's a leadinis Da, I'm not sure.
I can't really tell you why a Lennis Das is
on this roster at this point. He hasn't played, I
believe in fourteen or fifteen days. I think he's taken
four major league at bats since June thirtieth. You know,

(01:36:19):
Dana Brown was on the pregame show. I think this
was a couple of weeks ago when they signed him
or when they brought him up, and Dana Brown basically
talked about him as if he's basically just like a
veteran leader in the clubhouse and they didn't expect him
to play much like I'm not sure that with fifty
games left in a season where you're in a dogfight
to make the playoffs, I'm not sure you can waste
a roster spot on that. But there could be some

(01:36:41):
other ways they get Saysar Salazar on the roster. I'm
not sure. Maybe they just wait until September when rosters expand,
and call him up and it becomes a little bit easier.
But again, I don't know if they have that luxury
of waiting until September for that. But yes, I do
think it needs to be a discussion that they need
to try to get Sasar Salazar up here just to
give them some coverage. And as far as who that

(01:37:02):
comes at the expense of, I don't know, but yes,
alenis Diaz would profile maybe is the odd guy out,
but you know, listening to Dana Brown, it sounds like
they value him in the clubhouse maybe a ton more
than anything he would do on the field.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
To you, say, Kakuchi, each of his starts here there's
been a clear pitch breakdown change from what he was
doing in Toronto. Found it interesting specifically in both games
for different reasons to the game he just pitched. He
had just seen the Rangers less than two weeks ago,
and you could see a difference in what he threw
that day in terms of his four pitches and the percentages,

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and what he threw yesterday successfully much more successfully than
his first appearance against the Rangers. In yesterday's game, How
confident do you think he is in how they're trying
to have him attack hitters. It seemed like some of
what he had to say yesterday indicated that, you know,
he likes what they're telling him and has been able
to execute it quite well.

Speaker 7 (01:37:58):
Yeah, I mean he has to be confident. He's pitching
really well. So I mean he's allowed foreign runs and
in his first two starts. You know, the Ashes will
take that, the Asters will take what you say Kakushi
has given them every day of the week. I mean,
I think anyone that expected him to come in here
and go eight innings with no runs each time out
was foolish. I think. I think if you looked at
the underlying metrics and the peripherals when they acquired him,

(01:38:20):
you knew that the era, especially the er in the
last twelve starts with somewhat misleading. You knew he played
for a bad team with a bad bullpen behind him.
So maybe just the jolt of joining a team that
has better players and just has better is more soundly constructed,
maybe that helps. And that had to have boose to

(01:38:42):
his confidence, you know. I do think when you look
at kind of his pitch usage and what he's been
able to do, I think I would caution anyone against
like looking at each start is like, oh, this is
what he's gonna do now, like he this is going
to evolve. Like he didn't throw a ton of he
threw more changes than he has. I think there were
a ton of change ups yesterday. It's not gonna be

(01:39:03):
all change ups. It's not gonna be all lower velocity
four seemers up. They're gonna still adjust to the lineups,
but I think it's a lot more about pitch location,
pitch sequencing and when he throws a lot of these pitches.
But yeah, it's been an impressive beginning for him.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
Fantastic stuff, very impressive for him. He's made the two
starts over the six game stretch, and now we'll watch
the other guy's pitch the next four games starting tomorrow
in Bosson. Appreciate the time as always, Chandler, all right, thanks,
you got it. Catch more of his stuff right there
in the athletic Astros back on the diamond. As we
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We now return to Adam Clinton and Adam Wexlwerth on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Great conversation with Chandler Romo the Athletic.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
If you missed that and catch that via podcast shortly,
you should already be subscribing to the eighteen podcast course.
I know you've already got to iHeartRadio app downloaded and
ready to roll. Probably been enjoying some of our Olympic
coverage with our friends over at NBC and Peacock. iHeartRadio
your official home for the coverage of the Olympics, along
with them, and there are some interesting things happening on

(01:41:15):
that front. Mentioned that earlier with what went down with
the basketball team. The men's side, there's really never a
story on the women's side. They should go out there
and crush, and they will again and they'll win their
goal without any problem whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Men's team.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
I wouldn't necessarily say it was easy, because that would
be false. They won by four today, they're in the
gold medal game. They'll be playing France. Games are in France.
If you were unaware, that should be fun. Victor wembin
Yama trying to not quite single handedly overcome the team USA.
Mind you, they won today. France did over Germany. Germany

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boasts a bunch of NBA talent. France does two Victor's
semi final game winning performance, including it making all four
of his seven teen shots from the floor, miss thirteen
of his seventeen shots. Who's very good defensive as he
usually is at the rim, but it was a big
struggle fest for him offensively. Also missed one of his

(01:42:10):
two free throws late, which would have made it a
two possession game, kept it as a one possession game,
but France unable to hit their three and then two
free throws were hit by one of his non NBA
teammates and they carried it on home. So team USA
and Team France for the gold medal. Germany and Serbia
will play for the bronze also on Saturday. We just
got finished mentioning that Justin Verlander is set for a

(01:42:34):
rehab appearance, first of what should be just two and
that is coming Saturday for the Space Cowboys. Also interesting
on his path back to the majors. If he makes
his second rehab start the following weekend, he's throwing on Saturday,
wouldn't expect him to pitch again until probably Friday or Saturday,
and if he's perfectly fine at that point in time,

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then set to rejoin the Astros for a Thursday or
Friday start the following week, which means when he comes back,
he's almost guaranteed to face one of the best offenses
in baseball, and he might actually face two of the
best offenses in baseball as soon as he comes back.
They're set for finishing up their season series with Boston Monday, Tuesday,

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and Wednesday, the week following his last rehab start. That's
the nineteenth, twentieth and twenty first, Again, they haven't played
Boston at all yet. They play them three times in
Boston Tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday, and then Boston physits Houston
a week from Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and then he's
probably ready to pitch, maybe as early as that Thursday,

(01:43:38):
August twenty second, but more likely one of the games
that weekend. Thursday begins a four game series at Baltimore,
one of the five or six best offenses in baseball.
They go from Baltimore to Philly for a three game
series against the Phillies, one of the five or six
best offenses in baseball, depending on what numbers you'd like
to go with, and then they come home for four

(01:43:59):
games with can City, who's not yet lost to the Astros.
If he faces Baltimore in Philly, that's about as tough
as you could imagine. Kansas City's not much different, and
it's a little bit of an indicator with the team
is also up against, So I'm not sure if they'll
fiddle with when his turn comes up or they'll just
throw him out there. That is truly diving into the fire.

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And as we've noted throughout this week, the games for
All three of those teams are of tremendous importance. Baltimore
is in a dead heat, same record as the Yankees
for their division lead, and essentially they have the same
record as Cleveland. One day, Cleveland's up a half a game,
the other they're down to half a game, all of
them fighting for the number one seed in the AL.
Philadelphia was in LA last night controversy, and I actually

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think the Dodgers did get hosed by a bad call
by the umpire, a bad judgment call by the umpire,
leading a game four to three, had a buntz headed
towards third base with a runner on second, no force,
and keyk Hernandez came in fielded it, bobbled it, and
then fired to his shortstop who was running two third
base to cover. He caught it and threw the tag

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down on the incoming runner and tagged him out clear
as day, and the umpire saw it the same way,
except he added the element of fielder's interference. It's kind
of important to baseball that you no longer blocked the bases,
not just home plate, but other bases, and it was
deemed by the umpire at third base that is what
the fielder did, even though they were both running to
the base at the same time. He turned caught tagged

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on the same motion and the oncoming runner slid into
his foot, which was technically in front of the bag,
although off to the side, not that the runner did
it on purpose, but was very surprising call. He never
hesitated on it and did not change his mind when
Dave Roberts came out to protest the call, and at
four to three at that point in the game, Joe

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Kelly entered the game and five runs were scored and
they ended up losing. He also gave up three home
runs to Kyle Schwarber, not usually a path to victory,
and it certainly wasn't so those games for the Philadelphia
if they're trying to stay ahead of the Dodgers or
whomever wins the American League West for the number one
seed in the National League. By the way, the Padres

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won this afternoon, they're two and a half games back
as we sit here of the LA Dodgers. Some of
these other races around baseball are absolutely heating up. I
don't know if I want to call the race in
the AL West hot or heating up, because for about
three weeks now, nobody in this division is winning very
often two, three, four games over five hundred on any

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given day. That's where the Astros sit now at four.
Not a particularly good team, a winning percentage under fifty
two percent, a pace of around eighty four wins. An
eighty four win division division winning record is something the
Astros haven't seen in a while. They've made the playoffs
before with a record like that, And I know seven
teams in the fifteen team American League will hit the

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postseason with the or six teams, the three division winners,
and the three wild card teams. So it's a little
bit more than we've seen over baseball histories past, but
not a particularly good team if you base it on
their record. Maybe they're hot, maybe everyone's healthy. Maybe the
team that wins the division with eighty four or eighty
five wins is also now using Justin Verlander on a

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regular basis. They're having Kyle Tucker in the lineup on
an everyday basis. So you might be able to make
a case that they're significantly better than their record because
they're actually a different team. Guys that have not been
a part of honestly the best part of their season.
Almost the entire stretch of games where they've gone from
ten games back to in first place have been played

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without Kyle Tucker and without Justin Verlander contributing. And we're
hopeful that you continue to see solid starts from Yusay Kakuchi.
I mention each of the starts they got from the
other four members of the starting rotation in their last
respective turns. We're all excellent. None of them gave up
more than two runs. Obviously, one of them nearly threw
a no hitter, honestly nearly through a perfect game, wasn't

(01:47:56):
in perfect game status when it reached the ninth inning,
but was in no hit status when he allowed the
home run from ber Valdez did to Corey Seeger, which
sent him out of the game and Josh Hater into
the game. It feels like at times this team is
significantly better than their record indicates, but you can't deny
that at least twice this year recent play their last

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three weeks and obviously the first twenty six games, that
is too much of the season. That's two big long
stretches where they've been average or significantly below average. You
can't dismiss either one of them. Their record, truly is
I think a very good indicator of the baseball that
they've played this season. When you look over their individual
numbers and you factor in Kyle Tucker's absence for two months,

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they've basically had one good hitter, and it's Jordan Alvarez.
Over the course of the season, he's still among the
league leaders, among the best hitters in baseball, but he
hasn't even been as great as he's been in previous seasons.
And he's never had home road splits like he's wandering
through this season with which are totally inexplicable. And that
he hit another two home runs over the life last

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couple of games, both clearly coming on the road. Fifty
six games at Minute Made Park, fifty three games at
anybody else's ballpark. He's got an eleven hundred OPS when
he's not playing at Minute Made Park. That's league best status.
That's you win the MVP Award with an OPS like that.
Hitting three p fifty two, slugging six sixty eight. His

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OPS at home is yeah, you're probably gonna be in
the lineup every day. Seven forty five, two forty nine
batting average. That's it's just very average, and it's hard
to put rhyme or reason to it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
It's a little bit like the team last year home
and road.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
There was no reason for them to not be able
to hit the ball very well at home and had
nothing to do with the batters eye. Look at the
year before, look at this year. They have no issue
whatsoever playing good baseball at home. They're not gonna have
one of the best records they've ever had at home,
but there's certainly a capable team at home, and after
starting the year four and nine at home they've been great.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
It's there.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
There is no real reason, and that's why in baseball,
and you ask a lot of those questions the responses
you get. If I had the answer, we would do
something about If jord On Alvarez k new why for
the first time in his career he had splits this
wide from one place to the other. And I don't
think anybody's going to go the trash can route with
this because his road numbers are good and his home

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numbers are bad.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
There is no explanation for it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
If it levels out over the final five, six, seven
weeks of the season, that would be a tremendous addition. Again,
it feels like an addition to the team if that's
what you're going to get out of him. Most notably
why they were able to score the runs they were
able to in the last two games, the guys at
the other end of the lineup started putting the ball
in play. It's not even that they got so many hits.
It's that they literally put the ball in play instead

(01:50:41):
of striking out ten to fifteen times in a game.
You know, the last two games for the Astros, the
team struck out four times each. It's only the third
time this season they've had back to back games of
only striking out four times, and it came on the
heels of a three week stretch where they put themselves
out of the number one spot for the first time
in a couple of years in terms of the team

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that strikes out the least. They were on such a
strikeout bender offensively that they were, they took himself out
of being the best team in the league at watching
the strike zone, not striking out, putting the ball in play. Heck,
the only runs they seem to score when the bases
are loaded are when they accidentally don't strike out. You
had the ball from Jeremy Pania that bleeded through the infield.

(01:51:23):
You had him get hit by a pitch that got
you another run with the bases loaded. That's the kryptonite.
I also hope goes back to last year. Last year
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This year one of the absolute worst. In case you missed,
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Speaker 5 (01:52:24):
France here supports Talk seven ninety as your home for
astros Baseball stream every game on the free iHeartRadio app.
Time for in case you missed it, here on the
A Team Wex and day in here with you. Some
items we've not yet gotten to at all, or some
things that need a revisit. Among those the announcement that

(01:52:45):
justin Verland or will make a rehab start with the
Shereland Space Cowboys on Saturday. Astros begin a three game
series with the Red Sox tomorrow night and hopefully an
opportunity for them to maintain their spot in first place.
As we sit here at five point thirty three in
the afternoon Central Time, the Astros have a half game
lead over the Mariners, who lost late last night. But

(01:53:07):
the Mariners continue their series with the Detroit Tigers tonight.
Tigers behind Trek Scobel beat them last night. Tonight when
the Mariners host the Tigers, that could put them back
in a first place tie with the Astros or a
full game back of the Houston Astros.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
What else do we have?

Speaker 9 (01:53:25):
Yeah, shout out to Parker Meadows for that catch. I
mean he walked off the Astros last year. Helps him out.
Then former Astro blind address helping out in the effort
last night for aj Hinches Club. Yep, all right, so
we'll go ahead and spoil it because it's out there
for some But anyway, for those of you, you know,
you know what to do. Noah Lyles running the two

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hundred meters today after he had called his shot, said
I'm winning the gold. It's finished, it's done. He captured bronze.
But the element in the issue is he had tested
positive for COVID in story.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
In yeah, I was a typically speedy race USA. I
got both the bronze and the silver, unexpectedly though not
getting the gold from either one of them. Great games
for Lyles, and I hope people don't turn around on
him as they turned around on him before he got

(01:54:23):
gold number one. When he did win the one hundred
and what was I think will go down as one
of the most exciting moments events at this Olympic Games,
with how fast the entire group was and obviously how
close the finish was for a host of runners, not
just between silver and gold. He went out there and
talked to talk and then he went out there and

(01:54:44):
did it. And we'll see if there are other reasons
to believe why things went unfortunately the way they went
today as you mentioned, with the COVID diagnosed, it's probably
worth noting that, you know, we talk about we might not,
but people who follow the Olympics more closely were focused
in on some of the incredible performances like Katie Ldeki
continuing to pile up gold medals someone Biles continuing to

(01:55:08):
do the same, but probably aren't talking enough about Sydney
Sidney McLoughlin of Rome, who coasted again it seemed like
to a massive victory, set the world record in the
four hundred meters, blowing away all of the best in
the world again and quite honestly, as some have pointed out,

(01:55:28):
she would have likely meddled in the four hundred meter
while she's running the four hundred meter with hurdles. She's
been incredible and probably not I don't know if she's
lost in the shuffle or I'm not following it closely enough,
but it seems like what she's doing is above and
beyond when almost anybody else from any country who traveled

(01:55:48):
to Paris to do and she's crushing all right.

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
So the San Francisco forty nine ers, since we didn't
have football at five today, hadn't had a chance to
talk much about Brandon Aiyuk. I mean, this is kind
of the scenario. This is almost like the Major League
Baseball version or the NFL version of when Major League
Baseball was, Hey, Rod's gonna go to the Red Sox.
He's gonna go to the Red Sox. He went to
the Yankees. Like it's kind of like all right, we
get it, like just go somewhere. Well, the forty nine

(01:56:14):
Ers seem like they're already moving on. They've signed Robbie
Chosen formerly known as Robbie Anderson, to a deal and
still trying to work out a deal for Ayyuk. I mean, wes,
I think I saw a report that they're asking for
two ones for Iyuk.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
They might as well ask can't hurt again. He'll have
to agree on a contract with whichever team they've come
to an agreement with, and the reports where they'd actually
done so with two teams, neither of whom were the
expected targets, the Patriots being one of them, the Browns
being the other. It does still seem like he and
his agents are kind of front of the line with
the Pittsburgh Steelers, but no deal has been able to

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be worked out either for the trade with the teams
or for a contract for the player.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
The idea that they're moving on is an accurate one.

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
He's not I would say about ninety percent chance he's
not catching any more passes in a Niners uniform. But
signing Robbie Chosen is not an indicator of that. Robbie
Chosen would be the last guy on the Texans roster
if he went to their camp tomorrow, if he played
in their game tomorrow night. And even though the Niners
have a lot less depth at wide receiver than you'd expect,

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they signed John Trey Kirkland earlier this week. Chris Connelly
has a pretty good chance of making their roster. Ricky
Pearsall needs to stay healthy because he's going to be
on the field. He's probably their number four right now,
I mean their third right now without Ayuk Deebo, Samuel One,
Jennings and Pearsall are there one, two, three right now,

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and Chosen will not make their team.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
He's not good anymore good all things considered.

Speaker 5 (01:57:47):
In the NFL player in his past, he's spent three
seasons playing really bad football for about four different teams.
This will be number five, but only in a training
camp sense in my opinion, But what do I know?

Speaker 9 (01:57:58):
All Right, we're gonna break away from shorts for the
final one here on. In case you missed it, are
you a fan of the movie Glengary Glenn Ross.

Speaker 5 (01:58:04):
I'm aware of the movie Glengary Glenn Ross, very racy
five years ago, ten, fifteen, many, twenty five, many years ago,
nineteen ninety two. Oh okay, I'm sorry, so thirty two
years ago. Let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Wee. There you go, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:58:19):
So the reason why I bring it up is because
there's going to be a Broadway revival of the movie
that had a star studied cast. It's going to include
Karen Colkin, Bob Odenkirk, and also Bill Burr. Colkin is
going to play Richard Roma Ritchie Roma, who was in
the movie played by Al Pacino. Odinkirk is going to

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play Shelley Levine, who of course was Jack Lemon, and
then Ed Harris's character David Moss. Dave Moss is going
to be played by Bill Burr.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
I was kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
Holding out hope that the Baldwin character would be played
by either Colkin or I could see Burr playing that part.

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
I mean a little save with Bill Burr being a
part of the project, although you're talking about a Broadway
revival of a movie from thirty two years ago, makes
me think we're renaming this segment.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
You definitely missed this. I definitely miss this.

Speaker 9 (01:59:15):
I love the movie, I mean, especially the bald one scene,
put the coffee down, I mean, second place, a set
of stick Knight's Third Place, You're fired.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
Yeah, I think the You know, there's more to the
movie than that, quite clearly, but that's pretty much all
anybody references ever about the entire hour and whatever long movie.
I'm not sure. I mean, you got enough star power
here and people will go see anything. It seems like
these days, I don't know, not that intrigued by a
Broadway revival of the nineteen ninety two theatrical classic Glengarry

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Glenn Ross.

Speaker 9 (01:59:50):
I mean, I did a star studied Broadway production that
had Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
It was called a Soldier's Play.

Speaker 9 (01:59:58):
Jerry O'Connell, David Allen Greer was in it as well,
and Nandi.

Speaker 7 (02:00:02):
Ausola was part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
It was really good.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
What do you mean you saw it? Yeah, I saw
it on Broadway. Oh all right.

Speaker 9 (02:00:11):
We were up there and I had seen that, you know,
they were all going to be in said production, and
I was like, I like those guys, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
See it, and you were glad that you did. I soon, Oh, yeah,
that was awesome. It was great, really really good Broadway shows.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
Musicals pretty low on my list, not that I haven't been,
not that I actually I'm not even saying that I've
been dragged to them because that would be inaccurate. Always
fun to spend time with the family, and fun to
spend time with people who love it. You're just to
do the things, some things that they love, even though
you might not love them quite as much. And I
think that's an accurate assessment of my thoughts about not

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only Broadway shows or musicals, but Broadway revivals of movies.
Quite honestly, never saw aware of it, aware of the scenes,
know about its popularity, but start to finish me and
Glengarry Glenn Ross. It never happened more common on the
Ateam the A team.

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Speaker 5 (02:02:26):
The final segment before he turned things over to the
Crawford Box cast Coming your Way at six o'clock tonight.
Astros Baseball returns tomorrow with their series against the Boston
Red Sox. A visit from Astros broadcaster Jeff Blum tomorrow
as per usual, as we begin the show tomorrow at three.
One reason why a lot of people probably didn't feel

(02:02:46):
much like the NFL's preseason had begun was because there
was only one game. That's what happens during the Hall
of Fame week. You play one game, two teams have
seen the field. Most other teams are just getting the
pads on, just getting into their fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth
practice of training camp. Tonight, preseason begins for everybody else

(02:03:07):
this weekend. The Texans obviously played tomorrow night against the Steelers.
There's games Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday this weekend. Tonight's game,
and over the course of the rest of the weekend,
each of the three rookie quarterbacks I expect the Texans
to see over their first six games of the season,
three rookies and three vets. Over those first six, and
it's pretty nice that when they have Minnesota and Chicago

(02:03:32):
and New England on their schedule, it all happens to
come in the first six weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
So even if you don't see them.

Speaker 5 (02:03:38):
And I'm sure you'll see Caleb Williams barring injury, but
I guess the jury's still out on exactly what Gerrod
Mayo will do at quarterback by week six and what
Kevin O'Connell will do in week three with JJ McCarthy. Nonetheless, Tonight,
Drake may will be on the field for the first time.
They are playing the Panthers Saturday night, Caleb Williams will
be on the field for the first time and play

(02:04:00):
when the Bears are at the Bills. And also that
night those are as an afternoon game. Later that afternoon Saturday,
it's JJ McCarthy's Vikings on the field for the first time.
One really good way for the Texans to get off
to a phenomenal start. Just start there. Beat rookie Caleb
Williams and his Bears, beat rookie JJ McCarthy, slash Sam

(02:04:24):
Darnold and his Minnesota Vikings, and beat Drake may and
the Patriots. Those are three of your first six games
of the season. If you're three and zero in those games,
can you win either of your home games against Trevor
Lawrence and the Jaguars, Josh Allen and the Bills, or
the only other road game you have, which obviously is
the season opener against Anthony Richardson in the Colts, you

(02:04:44):
win only one of those games, and you get three
wins against three rookies, you're four and two, you win
two of those games, Obviously, you've gotten off to an
unbelievable start. Gives you a little bit of a cushion
the rest of the way. Be nice to start off
the season with two division wins, which I think are
absolutely attained with that opener against Indianapolis and then three
weeks later having Jacksonville come to town. Certainly, health will

(02:05:06):
play a huge part in all of that, and we
should get to see some starters tomorrow night. And I
think the only reason we're not going to see more starters,
based on the way Demko's discussed things, is simply due
to injury. There are a bunch of starting players that
have basically either never practiced at all. Laramie Tunsel missed
practice time, Joe Mixon, Titus Howard, Willie Anderson, Junior Kamara

(02:05:30):
Lassiter who did not practice during their days in Sugarrin Hills, Ohio,
basically Cleveland the last couple of days. All of those
players will be starting and are expected to be healthy
when the season opener rolls around on the eighth. I
sometimes don't mention Christian Harris should he has not practiced
at all during training camp, did practice throughout the off season.

(02:05:51):
Is not an injury they seem very concerned with and
led to believe that a month from now when they
open the season, remember the season opener is still one
month away, that he will be healthy, will have practice,
and we'll be ready to hit the field with the team.
We shall see, but all indications are that will be
the case. So does look like CJ. Stroud will get

(02:06:12):
out there? Kind of a guess on what you see
from Stefan Diggs, considering he missed the last of their
three practices this past week in Ohio. Maybe it's not
his first time on the field with CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Stroud.

Speaker 5 (02:06:24):
I would suspect Noah Brown's probably not out there for
this one either, considering some of the practice time that
he missed and whatever state they view his health being in,
maybe you'll see a couple more tight ends because they
were down to one tight end fourteen plays into the
game this past Thursday night. That were down to one

(02:06:45):
tight end available to them. Hopefully Dalton Schultz plays briefly
and Brevin Jordan hopefully healthy enough to get out there.
Doesn't look like that will be the case. Kate Stover
was the one healthy tight end they were able to
start and get through the entire game. You won't taging Quatoriano.
Dalton Keene has returned to practice, so I would expect
that he will be out there. A little bit surprised

(02:07:06):
they didn't sign a tight end in the last four
or five, six, seven days, just because they're so thin
at that position, and strictly from a personnel grouping standpoint,
it does limit what you're able to do. It limits
what Bobby Slok's able to put out there. Granted, this
is the most vanilla time of the year. They're not
scouting teams, they're not scheming for teams and vice versa.

(02:07:28):
They're merely trying to get their own stuff done and
get everybody on board with what they're expecting from them.
And learning the offense or the defense. Should we discussed that,
So those are things of note. I think next week,
if he's treating this game the way it looks like
he is, it does appear that we'll see three four
series most of the first half, maybe from the starters

(02:07:51):
when they play their first home preseason game a week
from Saturday, when the Giants are in town. If that's
the case, then I doubt we'll see anybody in the
fourth preseason game when the Chargers or excuse me, the
Rams are here. They will have that joint practice before then.
I think that would be the last time we see
any of those players. There wasn't a lot of activity
for CJ. Stroud quite obviously last year's preseason.

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
There were only three games.

Speaker 5 (02:08:12):
He played very little, couple of series in the first game,
played a couple of series in the last game, and
played a first half in the second game.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
There weren't even that many plays.

Speaker 5 (02:08:21):
There were only twenty one snaps and a kneel down
in that game, and he was perfectly fine for the season,
already showed this team what he could do. By his
fourth half of football pretty nondescript and uninspiring against Baltimore
not too much to look at against Indianapolis in the
first half and then the second half of the second
game of the season, he basically tore apart their secondary,

(02:08:43):
their defense, threw the ball over the field very successfully.
They were trying to make a large comeback and they
came up short. And you saw the fruits of the
work they put in there the very next week when
they dominated in Jacksonville. Follow that up with a dominating
win against the Steelers. And I think by that point
in time, now that a couple of wins had been
put on the board, you knew you had something. You
knew this season might provide a lot of entertaining moments.

(02:09:05):
It obviously did. It provided postseason entertaining moments, embarrassing the
Cleveland Browns so much so that they said, we can't
have this anymore. Got to get rid of Joe Flacco
and move back to Deshaun Watson. That will be fun
to watch them in their opener when they get the
Cowboys to open up the season, just because of the
amazing number of storylines that are going to unfold that

(02:09:28):
very first week of the NFL season. Because of that
particular games, probably still a side story, But yes, that's
the game that Tom Brady will be doing for the
very first time. That week one schedule that includes that game.
Remember it all starts on Thursday, when the defending champs
played the team that tried to prevent them from winning
the AFC. Kansas City hosts Baltimore. The game in Brazil

(02:09:49):
follows that with Jordan Love and the Patriots taking on
the Eagles. The division games outside of Houston and Indianapolis
on Sunday. Jacksonville opens at Miami Tennessee is the team
that Caleb Williams makes his NFL debut against in the
regular season, and that game is in Chicago. So a
Texans victory on the road at Indianapolis, if I were

(02:10:11):
to guess, would have them all alone in first place
as they come back home to face the one to
oher Chicago Bears on Sunday Night Football, the first of
their several trips to primetime television this upcoming NFL season. Tomorrow,
We're gonna talk about that very topic extensively. Is there

(02:10:33):
too much undeserved hype for the Houston Texans? At least
one person thinks so, so we'll definitely hit on that
mentioned the show opens with a visit from Jeff Blum,
and we appreciate the visit today from Chandler Rome. Tomorrow's
show also includes an early start time for Astros Baseball,
so we'll get into the tenth inning show for you
a bit early tomorrow for Ac and Dan Wex here

(02:10:56):
saying don't go anywhere. Ross and Chris have the box cast.

Speaker 4 (02:11:01):
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