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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh, but to be joined by Dimitrius Harvey sooner rather
than later this segment. Oh, there he is, okay, just
making sure we had him. Demitrius Harvey joining us on
the phone lines right now. He is the Jacksonville Jaguars
reporter for the Florida Times at Union. Demetrius, good to
have you on the program. Obviously, the team you cover
is looking to sweep the season series against the Houston Texans,
(00:32):
team that they are already ahead of in the standings.
Be honest, and this it goes for both teams and
the Colts. Did you, in your wildest imagination think that
the AFC South would look like this on November fifth
at the beginning of this year.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, I really can't say I would have expect hit
this at all.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think going into the season, I had the Jaguars
win in about six games, and they're one away from that.
I would have expected them to be, you know, this
far head. I think of their build, and I think
it's just a credit to you know, what the coaching
staff has done down there and are down here in Jacksonville,
and it's it's sort of been unbelievable to watch. And
then obviously with Indy. I mean, that's that's incredible, that
(01:12):
situation with Daniel Jones. Yeah, you know, the AFC stu's
breaking down like this is not what I expected.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is the job done by the coaching staff maybe the
best thing that's been uncovered this season for the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I mean, I really do think that that's been
the primary reason why they've gotten better. You know, obviously,
they brought in some players. You know, Jordan Lewis has
made some plays. He's definitely helped the team a lot.
Eric Murray as a safety, you know, before he got hurt,
he was helping the team a lot. You know, they
brought in different guys, and they drafted you know, obviously
Travis Hunter and and and things of that nature. But really,
(01:50):
for the most part, the twenty two players that are starting,
you know, more or less, it's pretty much the same.
And so I really do think that the coaching staff
has a lot to do with that. I think that
they really bought into this coaching staff. It's clearly one
that they believe in, and I think that you know,
sometimes it does take change of scenery, not just for
(02:11):
a players leaving, but players getting new coaches, new teachers
to sort of come in.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, there's a lot of things to look at statistically speaking,
and they definitely don't point to the Jaguars should be
five and three. They've won a couple of games by
making plays late. Obviously, their last game was an overtime
victory with a play not made by the Raiders. Their
victory over the Chiefs was a play made by Trevor
Lawrence on a drive. With several plays made by Trevor Lawrence,
what do you do with your grade for Lawrence at
(02:37):
this point of his career? What are your thoughts about
him today? Are they any different than they were heading
into the season with Liam Cohen?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, I think that Trevor's Trevor's an interesting quarterback.
You know, obviously, coming out of Clinton, he was noted
to be a generational talent. Everyone had these high expectations, understandably.
Obviously he was incredible at Clemson, and then when he
comes into the NFL he has to go through, you know,
a few different coaching staffs. We just got done, you know,
with him going through the Doug Peterson coaching staff, which
(03:08):
is a completely different offense than the one Liam Cohen
has all that to say is sort of you know,
I'm not necessarily shocked at where Trevor is right now
in terms of his play. I don't think he's playing
as bad as everybody or as some people might think,
but I also know that he's not playing to the
level that he should be expecting or you know, for
that price tag. So he's kind of in that weird
(03:29):
middle ground where I just need to see it play out.
I need to see the rest of the season play
out and see where he's a at the end where
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, So if I were if I were to ask
you to describe the Jags season through these first you know,
first half basically with one word, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's a good question. Hmm. If I had to describe
it with one word, I guess surprising. If that's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
To use, yeah, because I mean the reason I ask
is because it's not like they've been one of the
better teams in the NFL. But they haven't been awful,
and they've had some good wins against good teams. But
and again part of this is you have to include
the fact that I don't think anybody saw this coming
from the Colts, So it just kind of throws a
(04:19):
wrench into anything. I think a lot of us thought,
all right, if there is a, you know, a race
in the AFC South, it'll probably be a two horse race,
and it'll probably be Jacksonville and Houston, And here you are.
It's it's kind of a two horse race. But the
Colts have just come out so strong. So that's that's
kind of why I asked. And you know how Jacksonville
figures into things that down the stretch, It's gonna obviously
(04:40):
start with this game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, absolutely it will. And you know, I think that
this is actually probably Houston's most important game. I don't
know how you guys feel about that, but to go
down to two oh and two to the Jaguars, I
think he would get to three and six or three
and seven, like the the the the time for the
Houston to sort of come back would be now. And
that's interesting because I would have said coming into the season,
(05:04):
and I probably did on your show that coming into
the season, you know, Houston and Jacksonville would be the
two teams to sort of watch, and then obviously Indy's
gonna lag behind. And then I think everybody assumed that
Tennessee would be where they're at right now. So you know,
it's a funny situation. I do think that this is
a very important game for both teams, but especially for Houston,
who sort of seems to be struggling obviously over the
(05:24):
last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
There'd be a lot of question marks. We talked to
Demitrius Harvey here covering the Jags there for the Florida
Times Union, a lot of question marks about who Trevor's
going to be throwing to these next several weeks. It
looks like, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Brian Thomas Junior will be available for this game. I
know it's only Wednesday, but Parker Washington obviously steps into
a larger role. Liam gets his hands on Jacoby Myers
(05:46):
to figure out how he fits in. And I don't
know if you have a clear timetable beyond the ir
stay for Travis Hunter. But what do you think the
final or the second half of the season will be
in terms of who he should be looking to throw
the ball to.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be tough, even on Brian Thomas. I'll
be honest, I don't know if he'll play this week,
just because he's he missed practiced today with the ankles frame.
You know, I think that it was reported by Adam
Schefter that it was a low grade high ankle sprain.
I'm not exactly sure what that means. So we're just
gonna have to see. You know, with Brian, he probably
(06:20):
will be good to go. He's he's the type of
player who gets gets banged up and then all of
a sudden he's back. But but yeah, you know, it's
gonna be Brian Thomas, it's gonna be a guy like
Parker Washington. It's gonna be Jacoby Myers once he gets going.
You know, I don't know how much he'll play this week.
You know he will play, but how much you can
actually put on the guy, I'm not sure. So you know,
they're gonna be rolling with Jakobe, They're gonna be rolling
(06:41):
with Parker Washington, Damie Brown, who's practicing at least limited
this week. And so yeah, it's gonna be tough and
and for for the longer term future. For Travis Hunter,
I'm not exactly sure when he's coming back. I mean,
that's the situation that the team isn't necessarily just you know,
broadcasting telling everybody he's coming back in December. But I
do get the sense that this is not an injury
(07:02):
that's gonna knock it like, for sure, knock him out
throughout the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
But it is something where he's not expected to be
back for a very long time and they have to
sort of work through that. And one last thing, you know,
I do know that they're gonna be getting Britain Strange
back in the next couple of weeks. I think that
that's gonna be a huge boost. That's something that Trevor
has desperately, desperately needed over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's been a calendar year almost with James Gladstone. He's
taking his swings, for sure. Do you feel like you
already have a feel for what kind of GM he
will be throughout however many years he's there.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I do, and and I think that he is a
guy who is not going to make rash decisions, but
he will make, you know, to use his own words,
bold moves in order to upgrade the team. I think
it was just reported by Jordan Schultz. I don't necessarily
know in particulars on this, but apparently the Jaguars were
in on the Quinn Williams. The Quinn Williams trade, So
(07:59):
you know, it's a situation where I do think that
regardless of you know, how anyone feels, the Jaguars are
going to be a competitive in terms of landing the
players that they want. He likes a lot of synergy
with his players, so he likes players that sort of
compliment each other. So that's sort of the direction that
this team is going to take. And I think that
so far, I kind of have a little bit of
(08:20):
a blueprint of how this guy thinks.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
To Metrice, your guy that you know, don't You probably
don't watch the Texans every single week, but you're in
the division covering a team that does play them twice
a year. So your opinion on this is interesting to me.
Since we're talking about gms, and since we're talking about
you know, Jacobe Meyers coming to Jacksonville and saus Gardner
goes to the Colts. A lot of people are upset
(08:43):
the Texans didn't do anything. But what is your opinion
on Nick Cassario as a GM since he's been here,
Because I don't think we always talk about this guy
and whether or not he's going to be here after
this season for a variety of reasons, and it always
comes back to this guy's done some really amazing things
on the defensive side of thing, but the offensive line
is still just not enough for what CJ. Stroud needs
(09:05):
in front of him. So I'm interested your opinion on
a guy like Nick Asio.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, you kind of said that at the end there.
I just really feel like, you know, so far in
the build and what you guys have been able to do.
You know, obviously there are some very good there's some
very good talent on the deepensive side.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Of the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They're they're they're ranked high, maybe even number one, I
believe for a reason, and so on that end, I
do feel like he's done a great job. And I
do think he's done a great job at you know,
surrounding CJ. Shroud with some weapons to throw to, you know,
getting Dalton Shalls, you know, drafting the guys he drafted,
getting Christian Kirky, even though he's been hurt over the
last few weeks. And then you know, obviously Nico Collins
(09:44):
is sensational, So you know, on that end, I do
think he's done a good job but to your point,
you know, he's neglected, in my opinion, the offensive line
for far too long, and it's showing up year after
year after year. And when something like that gets so
painfully obvious, I do think that there does need to
be at least a shift in in philosophy, if not
(10:04):
a completely change in GM. And then that's sort of
similar to kind of how the Jaguars were, you know,
with Trent Balky, he was able to build up a
team you know that you know, could have could compete.
You know, in twenty twenty two they competed, twenty twenty three,
they competed. Obviously, injuries derailed, but they did not. They
neglected you know, certain parts the interior defensive liond interior
amantive lion, and so that kind of derailed the team
(10:27):
even the last couple of years. So yeah, you know,
to me, I think that that's the situation that after
the season, I would imagine that many would call for
him to be replaced, and I wouldn't blame them very much.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The story will be following the rest of the year
internally with this team looking forward to the game this weekend,
likely will be close. Jaguars have played in six to
one score games Texans have played in five. I imagine that's
what we will see on Sunday here in Houston. Demetrius,
appreciate you joining us again and I'll look forward to
catching up.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Appreciate it. Have a good one. You got it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Texans and Jaguars Sunday at noon, last of three can
secutive home games for Houston. They'll try to take two
of three if they can win on Sunday
Speaker 2 (11:07):
The eight on Sports Talk steven nineteen
Oh, but to be joined by Dimitrius Harvey sooner rather
than later this segment. Oh, there he is, okay, just
making sure we had him. Demitrius Harvey joining us on
the phone lines right now. He is the Jacksonville Jaguars
reporter for the Florida Times at Union. Demetrius, good to
have you on the program. Obviously, the team you cover
is looking to sweep the season series against the Houston Texans,
(00:32):
team that they are already ahead of in the standings.
Be honest, and this it goes for both teams and
the Colts. Did you, in your wildest imagination think that
the AFC South would look like this on November fifth
at the beginning of this year.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, I really can't say I would have expect hit
this at all.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think going into the season, I had the Jaguars
win in about six games, and they're one away from that.
I would have expected them to be, you know, this
far head. I think of their build, and I think
it's just a credit to you know, what the coaching
staff has done down there and are down here in Jacksonville,
and it's it's sort of been unbelievable to watch. And
then obviously with Indy. I mean, that's that's incredible, that
(01:12):
situation with Daniel Jones. Yeah, you know, the AFC stu's
breaking down like this is not what I expected.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is the job done by the coaching staff maybe the
best thing that's been uncovered this season for the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I mean, I really do think that that's been
the primary reason why they've gotten better. You know, obviously,
they brought in some players. You know, Jordan Lewis has
made some plays. He's definitely helped the team a lot.
Eric Murray as a safety, you know, before he got hurt,
he was helping the team a lot. You know, they
brought in different guys, and they drafted you know, obviously
Travis Hunter and and and things of that nature. But really,
(01:50):
for the most part, the twenty two players that are starting,
you know, more or less, it's pretty much the same.
And so I really do think that the coaching staff
has a lot to do with that. I think that
they really bought into this coaching staff. It's clearly one
that they believe in, and I think that you know,
sometimes it does take change of scenery, not just for
(02:11):
a players leaving, but players getting new coaches, new teachers
to sort of come in.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, there's a lot of things to look at statistically speaking,
and they definitely don't point to the Jaguars should be
five and three. They've won a couple of games by
making plays late. Obviously, their last game was an overtime
victory with a play not made by the Raiders. Their
victory over the Chiefs was a play made by Trevor
Lawrence on a drive. With several plays made by Trevor Lawrence,
what do you do with your grade for Lawrence at
(02:37):
this point of his career? What are your thoughts about
him today? Are they any different than they were heading
into the season with Liam Cohen?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, I think that Trevor's Trevor's an interesting quarterback.
You know, obviously, coming out of Clinton, he was noted
to be a generational talent. Everyone had these high expectations, understandably.
Obviously he was incredible at Clemson, and then when he
comes into the NFL he has to go through, you know,
a few different coaching staffs. We just got done, you know,
with him going through the Doug Peterson coaching staff, which
(03:08):
is a completely different offense than the one Liam Cohen
has all that to say is sort of you know,
I'm not necessarily shocked at where Trevor is right now
in terms of his play. I don't think he's playing
as bad as everybody or as some people might think,
but I also know that he's not playing to the
level that he should be expecting or you know, for
that price tag. So he's kind of in that weird
(03:29):
middle ground where I just need to see it play out.
I need to see the rest of the season play
out and see where he's a at the end where
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, So if I were if I were to ask
you to describe the Jags season through these first you know,
first half basically with one word, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's a good question. Hmm. If I had to describe
it with one word, I guess surprising. If that's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
To use, yeah, because I mean the reason I ask
is because it's not like they've been one of the
better teams in the NFL. But they haven't been awful,
and they've had some good wins against good teams. But
and again part of this is you have to include
the fact that I don't think anybody saw this coming
from the Colts, So it just kind of throws a
(04:19):
wrench into anything. I think a lot of us thought,
all right, if there is a, you know, a race
in the AFC South, it'll probably be a two horse race,
and it'll probably be Jacksonville and Houston, And here you are.
It's it's kind of a two horse race. But the
Colts have just come out so strong. So that's that's
kind of why I asked. And you know how Jacksonville
figures into things that down the stretch, It's gonna obviously
(04:40):
start with this game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, absolutely it will. And you know, I think that
this is actually probably Houston's most important game. I don't
know how you guys feel about that, but to go
down to two oh and two to the Jaguars, I
think he would get to three and six or three
and seven, like the the the the time for the
Houston to sort of come back would be now. And
that's interesting because I would have said coming into the season,
(05:04):
and I probably did on your show that coming into
the season, you know, Houston and Jacksonville would be the
two teams to sort of watch, and then obviously Indy's
gonna lag behind. And then I think everybody assumed that
Tennessee would be where they're at right now. So you know,
it's a funny situation. I do think that this is
a very important game for both teams, but especially for Houston,
who sort of seems to be struggling obviously over the
(05:24):
last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
There'd be a lot of question marks. We talked to
Demitrius Harvey here covering the Jags there for the Florida
Times Union, a lot of question marks about who Trevor's
going to be throwing to these next several weeks. It
looks like, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Brian Thomas Junior will be available for this game. I
know it's only Wednesday, but Parker Washington obviously steps into
a larger role. Liam gets his hands on Jacoby Myers
(05:46):
to figure out how he fits in. And I don't
know if you have a clear timetable beyond the ir
stay for Travis Hunter. But what do you think the
final or the second half of the season will be
in terms of who he should be looking to throw
the ball to.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be tough, even on Brian Thomas. I'll
be honest, I don't know if he'll play this week,
just because he's he missed practiced today with the ankles frame.
You know, I think that it was reported by Adam
Schefter that it was a low grade high ankle sprain.
I'm not exactly sure what that means. So we're just
gonna have to see. You know, with Brian, he probably
(06:20):
will be good to go. He's he's the type of
player who gets gets banged up and then all of
a sudden he's back. But but yeah, you know, it's
gonna be Brian Thomas, it's gonna be a guy like
Parker Washington. It's gonna be Jacoby Myers once he gets going.
You know, I don't know how much he'll play this week.
You know he will play, but how much you can
actually put on the guy, I'm not sure. So you know,
they're gonna be rolling with Jakobe, They're gonna be rolling
(06:41):
with Parker Washington, Damie Brown, who's practicing at least limited
this week. And so yeah, it's gonna be tough and
and for for the longer term future. For Travis Hunter,
I'm not exactly sure when he's coming back. I mean,
that's the situation that the team isn't necessarily just you know,
broadcasting telling everybody he's coming back in December. But I
do get the sense that this is not an injury
(07:02):
that's gonna knock it like, for sure, knock him out
throughout the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
But it is something where he's not expected to be
back for a very long time and they have to
sort of work through that. And one last thing, you know,
I do know that they're gonna be getting Britain Strange
back in the next couple of weeks. I think that
that's gonna be a huge boost. That's something that Trevor
has desperately, desperately needed over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's been a calendar year almost with James Gladstone. He's
taking his swings, for sure. Do you feel like you
already have a feel for what kind of GM he
will be throughout however many years he's there.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I do, and and I think that he is a
guy who is not going to make rash decisions, but
he will make, you know, to use his own words,
bold moves in order to upgrade the team. I think
it was just reported by Jordan Schultz. I don't necessarily
know in particulars on this, but apparently the Jaguars were
in on the Quinn Williams. The Quinn Williams trade, So
(07:59):
you know, it's a situation where I do think that
regardless of you know, how anyone feels, the Jaguars are
going to be a competitive in terms of landing the
players that they want. He likes a lot of synergy
with his players, so he likes players that sort of
compliment each other. So that's sort of the direction that
this team is going to take. And I think that
so far, I kind of have a little bit of
(08:20):
a blueprint of how this guy thinks.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
To Metrice, your guy that you know, don't You probably
don't watch the Texans every single week, but you're in
the division covering a team that does play them twice
a year. So your opinion on this is interesting to me.
Since we're talking about gms, and since we're talking about
you know, Jacobe Meyers coming to Jacksonville and saus Gardner
goes to the Colts. A lot of people are upset
(08:43):
the Texans didn't do anything. But what is your opinion
on Nick Cassario as a GM since he's been here,
Because I don't think we always talk about this guy
and whether or not he's going to be here after
this season for a variety of reasons, and it always
comes back to this guy's done some really amazing things
on the defensive side of thing, but the offensive line
is still just not enough for what CJ. Stroud needs
(09:05):
in front of him. So I'm interested your opinion on
a guy like Nick Asio.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, you kind of said that at the end there.
I just really feel like, you know, so far in
the build and what you guys have been able to do.
You know, obviously there are some very good there's some
very good talent on the deepensive side.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Of the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They're they're they're ranked high, maybe even number one, I
believe for a reason, and so on that end, I
do feel like he's done a great job. And I
do think he's done a great job at you know,
surrounding CJ. Shroud with some weapons to throw to, you know,
getting Dalton Shalls, you know, drafting the guys he drafted,
getting Christian Kirky, even though he's been hurt over the
last few weeks. And then you know, obviously Nico Collins
(09:44):
is sensational, So you know, on that end, I do
think he's done a good job but to your point,
you know, he's neglected, in my opinion, the offensive line
for far too long, and it's showing up year after
year after year. And when something like that gets so
painfully obvious, I do think that there does need to
be at least a shift in in philosophy, if not
(10:04):
a completely change in GM. And then that's sort of
similar to kind of how the Jaguars were, you know,
with Trent Balky, he was able to build up a
team you know that you know, could have could compete.
You know, in twenty twenty two they competed, twenty twenty three,
they competed. Obviously, injuries derailed, but they did not. They
neglected you know, certain parts the interior defensive liond interior
amantive lion, and so that kind of derailed the team
(10:27):
even the last couple of years. So yeah, you know,
to me, I think that that's the situation that after
the season, I would imagine that many would call for
him to be replaced, and I wouldn't blame them very much.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The story will be following the rest of the year
internally with this team looking forward to the game this weekend,
likely will be close. Jaguars have played in six to
one score games Texans have played in five. I imagine that's
what we will see on Sunday here in Houston. Demetrius,
appreciate you joining us again and I'll look forward to
catching up.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Appreciate it. Have a good one. You got it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Texans and Jaguars Sunday at noon, last of three can
secutive home games for Houston. They'll try to take two
of three if they can win on Sunday
Speaker 2 (11:07):
The eight on Sports Talk steven nineteen
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