Gator Chomped!: Cougars Crumble In National Title Game

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Raised by Earl Nolan, molted pot.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
The magnificent roller coaster ride that is Houston Sports. Chill
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your Teams? Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's two o'clock on a Tuesday edition of The A Team.
How is your National Championship?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hangover? Houston?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
That was one of the more brutal losses in the
history of this city. And wex There are several candidates,
but I can tell you this, with the way that
game went down last night, and with the way that
some of the you know, a deeper playoff runs in
a different litany of sports in this town have gone,

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that's right up there among the all time worst gut
punch Houston losses, simply because of the fact that the.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
National Championship was on the line and.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Seemingly within your grasp for much of the second half,
not just the game.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
How long did they play? Forty minutes? I think it
was forty minutes, but it felt like were they behind?
Uh the last of seventeen seconds?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Whatever?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
It was?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Sixty three seconds? Okay, sixty three.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
So the entire game, Yeah, they trailed for sixty three seconds,
including when the final buzzer went off, so seemingly within
their reach, undoubtedly within their reach, a game that they
led for much of the game, a game that it again,
it felt like a lot of other tournament games for
the Cougars, because these teams are good.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's not that easy to put them away.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Felt comfortable against Purdue, and they came back to force
the one of the plays of the tournament that the
Cougars pulled off with Uzan and Tugler, and winning that
one the way that they did buried Tennessee and never
let them in the game, and maybe that fool people
into thinking that, Okay could do that again. But unfortunately
the Final Four got you to the ultimate high and
the ultimate low the same game. The team wearing the

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white uniform outplayed the team wearing the dark uniform for
the vast majority of the game, just didn't win. Duke
was in front of the Cougars for such a long
period of time. It was one of the greatest late
comebacks that anybody's ever seen at the Final Four, and
the Cougars were in control of this game, seemingly for
about the same amount of time, not with quite as

(02:46):
large lead for as long of it. But again you
did leave did have the Cougars up by twelve in
the second half, and every time the Gators got within
reach or tied the game, you had enough of an
answer to go back in front all the way until
the final forty six seconds and ultimately at the end
of the game.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
And what changed for.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Them, similarly to what changed for Duke, they just couldn't score,
and in this case they couldn't even get the shot off.
Their last three minutes three and a half minutes three
twenty four I think to be exact, five turnovers. Their
last two possessions were shotless. Three of their final five
possessions were the same turnovers from Emmanuel Sharp at the

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end of the last two possessions a turnover from LJ.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Cryer.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Missed initial shots on almost every possession over the final
eight minutes. A couple of them still grabbed offensive rebounds,
but there aren't opportunities for one of the best offensive
rebounding teams in the country to grab offensive rebounds if
there's no initial shot, and.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's what's unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Kelvin Sampson, among the many distraught after the game, describing
just something that can't happen incomprehensible, that a shot was
not attempted. Don't really have any issue with what they
wanted to do because they ended up with a wide
open player just didn't execute it the way that he
should have a pump fake there and he's taking a
wide open twenty five twenty four footer for the win.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Just didn't come to that.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
A lot of other reasons why the last few minutes
are minutes that l J. Quyer and Juan Roberts and
Tugler and Uzan and everybody that was a part of
this team and certainly on the court for much of
this game. They'll look back and say, how you know
it's gonna be tough to stomach. It was clearly tough
to stomach last night. I think Manuel Sharp was unfortunately

(04:29):
this generation's Bracton Clark pounding on the court back after
that FI Slamma Jama team lost to North Carolina State
and this University of Houston team with Sharp just motionless,
hunched over on the court, just unable to just get
his senses about him because he knows what could have

(04:51):
been and of mistakes just to.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I'm sure he feels like we're on his shoulders.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Had a lot of people consoling him, including somebody knows
pretty well who just won the TI with Clayton Junior,
someone that he's played a lot of basketball with over
the years.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
They're to console him.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
They did what they wanted to do defensively, and they
said that over and over and over again afterwards, and
just didn't have enough offense. That was definitely a brutal
way to get all the way to the top of
the mountain and sit up there and sit up there
and then fall off at the end. Yeah, I was
there national championship to claim going into the game, and

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thirty five minutes into the game it was still theirs
to claim from in front.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm not gonna sit here and blame officiating because that's
certainly not why they lost that game. But I will say,
especially you know, forty eight hours after, I'm telling every
Duke fan that'll listen that that's not the reason you
lost that game.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Nor was the goaltending that wasn't called.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
There's a lot of things that happen in games, but man,
when you lose by two, they sure do become more highlighted,
as does the fact that I'm not I'm I'm not
gonna blame officiating, but I'm not going to ignore the
fact that it was two completely different halves of basketball
the way it was called.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah, that's why I think the conversation is totally different.
It's not a blunt the officials did cost them the game, Duke.
The officials cost the Cougars the game, not at all.
I mean people are picking apart a call here, a
call there that is absolutely a judgment call, especially with
that Cooper flag. There's no judgment. I mean it is
a judgment call on goaltending. They judged wrong. It's there's

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no debating it.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
It was wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And with all the replays down the stretch, which was
so highlighted again after you had pointed it out, it's
just i mean, come on, what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, and a lot of j billis red get us.
A lot of people who do a lot of college
basketball games have said it many times.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
They've set the rule up very badly.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
When the three officials missed the call and thus don't
call anything, well, they're left with no nobody has any
recourse to fix it.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I mean everybody in the arena, everybody watching on.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
TV except those guys knew that it was goaltending, and
there's no way to review it because they just didn't
call anything. And then there's no one call that Cougar
fans or basketball fans, because this is a national thing
people talking about the game. There's no one call from
a foul perspective that you're saying, Man, if they just

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I can't believe they call that, or I can't believe
they missed that. It was how they officiated the game,
as you just mentioned, to see these two teams, I
mean the way Florida was bringing the heat physically in
the first half, running over people, burying their shoulders into players. Yeah,
sometimes it was called, sometimes it wasn't, but that was

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the type of basketball. The three officials told the players
with their whistles, here's what we're doing tonight until halftime,
and then completely changing what they're doing. It changes a
game when you're forced to play a different rotation. The
Cougars played small. They don't ever play small because there's
no reason for them to ever play small unless they.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Run into a game.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
And it's happened a couple times these last few years
where all their bigs, get in enough of their bigs,
they have three of them, they rotate pretty consistently, get
into foul trouble, and you can't have them on the
court because the officials decided this is what we're going
to start doing. And it was just so fast, foul foul, foul, foul.
In a span of about four minutes, you had multiple
players in foul trouble. You had the total change to

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the way that basketball was being played. And that in
and of itself is much different than this call was missed.
What such contra're you didn't They didn't stop officiating and
say that was it for me? That was my twenty
minute sor right, you three guys go out there. You
can dictate how games are played. We saw it Sunday
with the Rockets and Warriors. Yeah, if you're going to

(08:42):
officiate the game a certain way, well then you're the
players are going to react to that. And there was
no time for the Cougars or Gators to react to
how it was being called in the in the second half, because,
like I said, it happened in the blink of an eye.
All the foul, all the fouls were called right out
of the gate, and it did similarly happen with Golden State.

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Golden State had six files in the first half and
then had four fouls in the first three minutes of
the third.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
They were in the penalty. Why we're all ten thirty
to go or whatever?

Speaker 6 (09:11):
It was.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Basketball players and their officials. I think everybody's clear on this.
While they're not good, they're light years better than the
officials that run through the college basketball Well.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Listen, everything about why I don't like college basketball was
on display last night. And you know, my wife comes
in and she's like, she didn't watch the first half.
She was like, dead set, I'm watching the game with me,
the whole game where you get Junior to bed.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
As soon as he's asleep, come in.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I figured she'd probably missed the first like five minutes
of the actual game, like game time. She ended up
not coming in until basically after halftime, and she's like, gosh,
nobody's making any shots. I go, right, this is why
I hate college basketball most nights. But these two teams,

(10:00):
we're the best two teams in the tournament, absolutely deserved
to be in that game because most of the time
they do make shots.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, I've said it before, and I don't know, it
wasn't quite as large a display during the semi final games,
even though they played with the same basketballs, the same rim,
the same background, all that stuff. But Kelvin Samson is
during his in game interview with Tracy Woolson was asked
about that and he cited nerves. And I don't doubt
that there were some nerves, but these weren't misses. These

(10:29):
were if you hit the rim, forget it. It is
not going in. If you swish it, there's a chance
it will make it through. But if you hit any
part of the rim with these overinflated, brand new basketballs
and these rock hard, brand new rims, you've got no shot.
And then on top of that, like the background, maybe
it was nerves, but Wilson and Who's on and sharp

(10:51):
were missing everything by ten feet, yeah, kind of missing,
kind of off to the left. These were shots. They
have attempted this badly when they were eight years old,
and that was part of what was going on in
this game. Both sides couldn't score because of all of
those things. Still was entertaining, Still was dramatic as dramatic

(11:12):
can be. But now seven trips to the final four
for the Cougars three tip trips to the National title game.
Two of those have ended in two point losses, and
in both cases the Cougars much much, much more experienced
head coach has been on the wrong end of it,
and an extremely young, much less experienced coach, both in

(11:35):
their thirties, were winners with North Carolina State and last
night with Todd Golden.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, Jim Valvano's a lot more likable than Todd Golden.
I'll just put that out there right now, for a
variety of reasons. Preach, I mean, what a douche I'm
not even gonna filter this. What an absolute douchebag that
guy is on and off the court.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I guess it was with a text thread with others
last night, oh Todd Golden, and I responded with hashtag
sleeves ball.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Like I and listen, there's a lot of those Florida
kids that were actually pretty likable.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't It wasn't like a you know, I would.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I guess if I have to lose a National Championship game,
I'd rather lose to them than freaking Duke. Yeah, no question,
but that head coach, it's hands on site. If you're
ever in Age Town. Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
It was an interesting path through the title nine allegations
to where he was last night.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Very very nine allegations. Is so polite on your part.
That's how you'd write the headline. I know, the beginning
of the story. You would read, well, I wouldn't expect
anything less from you.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
I mean, there are some stalking allegations with there you
go get your hands dirty, But it was we pushed
it aside. We're winning basketball team is good.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
He's it's don't forget what It's a redemption story for him.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
The thing need to address that And at the time,
Jimmy v was I did not like him.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Time running around. Man, that was very unlikable.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
But that was nothing personal, clearly from a personal standpoint,
and with everything that the View Foundation has stood for
and helped raise money for, and you see the coaching
fraternity all through the years rallying around that cause and
that person. Like even though I hate it when the
thirty for thirty airs with that wolf packed team, and
there's a couple of other specials that have aired, I

(13:31):
met six, well, I'm just these guys in particular, they're
sitting around talking about it during part of these specials,
and I basketball hate all of them, but I totally
get what an awesome story it is. And it's really
these are perfectly fine people like I was talking about
with Thorough Bailey the other day.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
But it's what you remember. It's it's hard to shake free.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
And the Alamodome was red very and well done by
the fans. You know, we were there yesterday, Chris Gordy
giving you a little inside look at what the whole
day looked like, and then on through the game and
then through the very very sad locker room. We'll probably
talk a little bit about that our experiences there inside

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some losing locker rooms at the end of seasons.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
We've been there before and it is tough.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Over the course of the remainder of the show, which
is all of the show, we'll talk about the astros
saying thank you for this gift, we don't want it.
Last night in Seattle in advance of their game tonight
against the Mariners. We got Best of X coming up
in fifteen minutes, Say what our signature segment for thirty
and a couple of visits from astros who have been

(14:37):
here on the air earlier Today, we'll hear from manager
Joe Aspota. We'll hear from Astro second baseman Brendan Rodgers.
That's coming up at five point fifteen, a spot a
little over an hour away. And you guys here on
a Tuesday edition of the eighteen.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
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Speaker 4 (14:57):
It is the A team Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Before we transition to the other team that choked last night,
I'm gonna reallowed anonymously from a die hard U of
H fans messages to me prior to the show today,
and this is not Matt Thomas, but I just want to.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Give you an idea. And you know, those of you
out there that are U of H fans, maybe you're
a lum, maybe you're a current student, whatever, or you're
just pulling really hard for them to win the first
championship in program history for that basketball program. And you
saw how close again they came. Maybe you can relate

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saw this is. This is just a series of text messages.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Saw some stupid stat that when Florida got that technical,
it was eight fouls on Florida and two on Houston,
or maybe it was one, I don't know, but after
that it was eleven fouls on Houston to one on Florida.
I've said it for a while, Now give me ai refs.
I don't even know how that would work Florida. On
that game at the free throw line, you take away

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the transition after rebounds. It slows the game down, which
is why Houston killed people was transition basketball. And that
non goaltending call was garbage.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Two.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
And then as the show got under way, Wex said, sigh,
time to get tormented listening to the show today.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
On the game last night.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
The goaltending that wasn't called was pulled off the rim
by Florida and sent down court for a three, by.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
The way five point and again I said that at
the time, I'm like, well, geez, if you're not going
to give the two points to Houston, the least you
could do is not I mean, you can't. One has
to happen or the it's all the same thing. Maybe
they do go down there and hit a three, but
then your two points closer.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Sure they would hit a three, I mean they did
hit six of them the whole game. Very likely they
would have in the half court set since they made
so many in the real quick half court set.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Since I harp on the rockets for this. I know
you know this number. How many free throws did the
Cougars miss last night in a two point loss?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I just I hate that stuff.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Well, they're not a good free throw shooting team, which
is also what played into some of the amazement at
the finish of the Duke game. Jaywan Roberts hit two
free throws to give him a one point lead, al
j Cryer came back to give them the three point lead.
Those four free throws are as pressure packed as you
could have and Duke missed their front end of the
one and one there in the final thirty seconds. All

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that thing played into how you flip a game from
behind by quite a bit to winning in regulation. The
Cougar shot seven fewer free throws, but missed one more
free throw than Florida. Florida went seventeen of twenty one
with those same basketball as nobody could make any jump
shots with or layups for most of the game, and
that absolutely had a huge, huge impact on the game.

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A twenty one to fourteen advantage in free throws isn't unbelievable.
The way these two teams played a nineteen to eleven
foul discrepancy is a much bigger, tougher thing to kind
of play it back through your mind, and I think
most people were playing it as it was happening. These

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teams are playing the same game. Sometimes the Cougars are
the more aggressive physical. Well, they can't call it every time,
like holding, So why don't we just follow them the
whole game. I thought last year's Cougar's honestly, they did
that too much, and there were a couple of games
where they got in such huge team foul trouble because
the referee said, well, we're not gonna let you do that.
This game just last night was not that type of

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game from the officials, and it wasn't one sided. Florida
was bringing plenty of physical basketball to the Cougars, and
then the second half, clearly it was just not called
in a way that seemed a good way to produce
the best basketball, certainly not for the one team that
had Tugler foul out in the final minute and had

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Roberts on the bench for a time, Francis on the
bench with his four fouls, and we were talking about
during the break, you know, seeing Francis doing what he's
done during all of his time at U of H.
He was a bigger part of things last year. Brought
it up yesterday. Everyone focuses on Jamal shed being hurt
late in their tournament run. Well, Francis was on the
court all year last year for Tugler because Tugler was hurt.

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Tugler missed so much of the season. He was out
there starting thirty seven times a year ago. And now
he's your big off the bench. What a luxury. And
it's kind of been that way for years with the
Cougars and their bigs. They usually have three exceptionally helpful, talented, defensive,
rebounding biggs and they had it again this year and
still foul trouble was an issue in last night's game.

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Really unfortunate. Hate seeing the tears I brought up in
the opening segment. Between all of our years here covering
only Houston sports, we have seen far too many locker
room scenes like that. I've been with the Cougars in
this Kelvin Sampson era on the road with them when
they've been in regional finals, when they've been a step

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away from this, when they've been in games where they
know they had it and it just didn't play. I've
seen tears in their life locker room before, which are
awful and nothing compared to losing the National title game
in the manner that they did. We were there at
Minute May Park when the Astros were in Game seven,
walking back to their own clubhouse after not winning the

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World Series. I was even on the road at Modus Center.
Damian Lillard ended the series that I know the Rockets
were going to win because Chandler Parsons just won Game
six with the shot at the rim. They were headed
back to Houston to eliminate the Blazers, but there was
enough time for them to miscommunicate defensively between he and

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Pat Beverly and Dame hits the shot.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I was in that locker room after the game. It
was far less sad than last night, and it was
far less sad overall because they were still like what
just happened five minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
We were ready to have the happiest fight we've ever
had as a team, flying back to Houston to go
win the series and move on to the next round,
and a team that absolutely could have kept winning in
my opinion, far from finished and then boom Dagger. The
legend of Dame time, and it's just it's amazing what

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you'll get from them in those moments, which is why,
unfortunately there are all those microphones in everybody's face. And
it took an exceptionally long period of time for the
Cougars to kind of wrap things up internally without allowing
the media in there, and before they even got to
the postgame podium. Normally it takes they have about a
fifteen twenty twenty five minute tops period between the end

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of the game and when the losing team goes to
the podium, because they go first. It was forty five
minutes last night of trying to deal with what they
just went through and how it's all over and they're
not playing together again, and they let it slip through
all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
They had an extended post game after the Duke win
the other night because they're just I mean, the I
can't remember the exact three players that were up there.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
With Kelvin Samson. I know you'll know this right off.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
For that, but they were all just so well spoken
and they're a that's a good group of interviews right there,
especially for a college team of any kind.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yeah, Wilson in tears as he spoke Roberts managed to
both go to the podium and speak at his locker
and very just so gracious about his time there and
all the people he wants to thank and what this
program and Kelvin meant to him.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Same thing with LJ.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Cryer obviously did not begin his college career here, but
rather against a team that ended Kelvin Samson's season at
the Final Four when he was with Baylor. But he's
a Houston kid from Morton Ranch, and many of them
are was It is tough. It's definitely heartbreaking for them,
and I can appreciate both sides of how it's dealt
with from our listeners, the people that respond on the

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X platform and those who were there at the arena
and made the trip. And especially there's people with the university.
People not only just in the athletic department, are all
across the university, students included. You know, look at the
scenes all across the sports bars of Houston, the students
Center on campus at the University of Houston, and how
many people were there, and the fact that San Antonio

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was cougar red for four days from Friday until Monday,
and certainly over the last two days undoubtedly. So they
took over the riverwalk, they took over the arena, and
now they have to wait until next year for still
what will be the first national championship for their basketball
program sometime in the near future. Pretty strong foundation, to

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say the least. We got to get the best of
X next. I think we're gonna lean on more college basketball.
But it's not what you think we'll do that next year.

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Speaker 5 (24:29):
Halfway through our number one, this is where we take
you and I said we would be locked in on
college basketball for this and yes we'll dive into the
comments section for our fun.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
But I don't know if it's what you think.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Last night, the last game of the college basketball season
was played, and Best of X has nothing to do
with it other than well, the team that won, well
they're in the SEC. Well, the SEC was already in
the news from earlier in the day.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Do not make this up.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I was talking to somebody about this earlier today. The
Texas A and M basketball team hired their new coach
and has welcomed him to Aggie Land and his name.
According to Twitter, he has a handle. He has been
fairly active during his time there. He's now changed his bio.

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It says at Aggie MBK head men's coach, hashtag twelfth man,
hashtag Gigham.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
He's all in.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
His handle, by the way, is Bucky Basketball, the head
coach of Texas A and M. His handle is at
Bucky Basketball. Very successful And the non best of X
portion of this is he's a pretty good basketball coach.
This is a major step up, but I think he
can absolutely succeed there, So we'll leave that to the side.

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The serious side of it. This might actually work. This
might be a good hire. It's very okay to say
good riddance to Buzz Williams and Jack Easterby enjoy him.
Where he's going, they are, They'll be going together, they
always do. Billy Kennedy had some good times, Mark Turshan
had some good times, but they might have bigger, better
times with Bucky. But we've seen, because social media has

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existed for quite some time now, we've seen pieces of
all of their introductions. We obviously have seen Coach Elko's introduction,
We've seen Coach jimbo Fisher's intro by. Now I think
we're used to it. We live in Texas, We know
lots of aggies, We welcome lots of aggies to the show.
We hang out with lots of aggies and longhorns for

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that matter, which is the genesis of our conversation today.
But nationally, every time the Aggies do what the Aggies do,
and I'm saying that with zero sarcasm and zero tone
and zero negativity, they do something. I'm being literal. The
Aggies do something that nobody else does. It's not us
recording their awful jokes during yell practice that nationally gets

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a lot of run. This is a totally normal currents
when they introduce a new head coach whether they're familiar
with Aggie land like Coach Elko was, or whether it's
new to them or whatever. It is totally normal, and
then of course social media picks up on it. But
if you're unaware of what the introductory press conference at
least sounds like, I can't show it to you yet,

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but you can hear it. This is what it sounded like,
at least parts of it.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I think you can pick up on that line.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
You can keep it playing underneath me, but I will
hat tip for the purposes of social media. Travis Brown,
longtime Aggie media member, now works over at KBTX work
for the paper there for a number of years. I
don't know if it was intentional totally unintentional, but his
vantage point at the press conference had him able to

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produce the grettiest, greatest video of all time because he
was directly in front of one of their yell leaders.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
So the video of.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
What you were listening to and the mannerisms that go
along with this very very well known part of Aggie
culture was for all the national eyes to see. But
like I said, I was going to keep it close
to home. It was posted by billions, literally millions of
people who grabbed it Bleacher Report and every other national

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antaly and to see every one of their posts had
a million views each and hundreds of thousands of comments
and likes. But one particular Longhorn decided to quote tweet it.
He played football and you've heard his voice many times before.
Kwan Cosby, he quote tweeted it and said, I think
this is the moment so many of their coaches go,

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what the bleep did I just get myself into.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Walking to Aguiland.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
And again, if you're unfamiliar with it, and he's not
unfamiliar with it at all, but many people are. This
is not oh, let's do something special for Bucky. This
is totally normal and on campus and in the room
and with each of the members of whoever they've put
on the podium or on the stage in this case,
everybody's into it. Everybody's swaying, everybody's doing all the things

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you're supposed to do, even if they're wearing their nice
new I'm the new head coach suit. But obviously that's
going to draw some comments when Kwan and his followers
very biased, quite clearly Longhorns are on this. These a
lot of them are very simple comments. Hunter says, good lord,
a lot of horns up. But what would this also

(29:36):
probably produce when we're talking about the Aggies and the longhorns.
I mean trash talk, definitely, and the most popular trash
talk usually stems around little brother. There are plenty of
those in there. But I'll go to the aggie side
of things. It makes me laugh that none of you
have a single creative or unique thought. This has always
been and it will always be the same comments over

(29:58):
and over better yet we do not care, which I'll
have to say. Quan actually responded to that one and says,
you say that, but I got the tweet from a
frustrated Aggie and the best part about that comment I
just read to you, and I'm sure this is very serious.
It came from at goober Tamou, the goober of Texas
A and M University is the handle. Kenny says. Coach

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doesn't look comfortable. Another Aggie pro Aggie says, good thing.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
No one asks you.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Even if I wasn't a longhorn from Kwan, I wouldn't
feel comfortable doing that.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I mean, look, this is to be expected.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
This is awesome by the way that this is happening
again on the playing surfaces.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
As long as yes, this is what I'm trying to promote,
this game.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Matters again there as much as they should.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I don't want anybody in the interim between when they
didn't play to not realize how fun that this rivalry
can be. iPhone Max said, it's tough being the little brother,
twelve year head start, and we've played for the SEC
championship more times than they have hook them.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Where is he wrong on that?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Though?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
He isn't That type of trash talk, while as simplistic
as it might be, is the hurt most hurtful. But
how about this? How about this?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
People were bashing A and M's lack of fortitude in
that area before Texas even played in that first year.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
One thing I said from the moment they were first
to go to the SEC is that meant they were
smarter and it was an awesome move. And nothing's changed.
They haven't won big on the football field, clearly, But.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
This was Nick Saban did exist.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
But that's not the point was this was an enormously
successful move for Texas. A and M athletic over the top,
successful for what they want to do to generate income
and matter they're in the SEC. They didn't win the SEC.
They have a Heisman Trophy winner and Johnny Manziel. They've

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had some really good starts to seasons and then the
inevitable has happened.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
On the other side.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
It happened to coach some a few times, happened to
coach Fisher several times. But this was an enormously successful move.
Guess who followed them. There certainly something Aggies could also
say on their end as a positive, A lot of
you know, little brother stuff. You will follow along. This
is so thanks for the spirit of fighting Texas Aggie Football.

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Not an official account, but that's the handle. Thanks for watching.
Rent is due at the first of the month.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
That's strong, very strong.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
But there's people on the other side that say the
same thing about, you know, living rent free. They actually
have a cheer about sawing the horns off. This is hilarious.
Rent free full disclosure coal.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
For a long time, WEX struggled with that concept, much
like I do gambling.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
How can both sides be living rent free?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Explain that to me. It's so comical. To me, it's
because it's a rival. It's a good thing. It's a
good thing.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
It's a great thing to have it back, and I
love the it's for the SEC now, which is the
greatest conference to ever exist in college athletics.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Still, we'll get it out on later date. A and M.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
The reason why you get called little brother is because
of the joke is your Texas eight and four, because
that's your record every year You've been in a twelve
year head start over the Longhorns, and they've already been
to Atlanta before you have.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Hmm, I mean, no lies detected again. It's good to
be Longhorns, isn't it. Wex you and me.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I mean, I feel like that's a statement you could
make at all times.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Last night I was glad to be a bear Catay,
I just skip around.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
By the way.

Speaker 10 (33:37):
I really wish Bucky would have called me he was
out in Mountain Brook when I was at the University
of Alabama. I could have told him all about what
the culture is down at college, like everything he's learning
about Bucky. Yeah, he's not going to dislike him going
to em and.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
He's paying out him out. Yeah, you love it. I
was about to say it is absolutely because of the
money you are getting, all right, I should change my handle.
What's it going to be wexy sports Talk, Sexy wexys
sports Talk Blucky Basketball. I love it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It sounds like he's got very clean bathrooms. All right,
let's take a quick time out. When we come back
to wind down the non televised hour of the program,
we'll get into the other team that choked last night. Sorry,
probably too soon to say that with what happened with
the Cougars last night.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
But it's hard to dispute it. We will do that
when we return.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
The a team on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Ninety tune lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your team.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Straight up three o'clock here on a Tuesday edition of
the program Sports Talk seven ninety wex ac and call
with you, taking you up until six o'clock tonight. Day
after another sports hango over for this town, where a
debilitating loss in a either championship level or just a
deep postseason level came to pass last night, I was

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trying to think about this. I mean, we all know
the usual suspects wex of heartbreaking Houston losses. You know
Buffalo back in ninety three, and then you know more
recent history, the very very close sweep at the hands
of the Chicago White Sox and the astros first ever
World Series appearance. Those are kind of further back. Then

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you get to the twenty eighteen Rockets losing to the
Warriors with Chris Paul. You get to twenty nineteen where
you already have a championship, but you should have, could have,
definitely should have won that World Series in Game seven,
where every single.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Road team got the victory in that series. Same with
the Alcs back in twenty thirty three.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
There's a lot of Astros you could sprinkle in here,
but as it pertains to the Houston Cougars losing by
two points in a National Championship game, and you're gonna
spread those out forty years apart.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Basically, that's rough.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
And it's totally different to me because Game seven against
the Nationals, Game six, whatever, any of these baseball games,
the World Series, Game four against the White Sox, there's
no emotions.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
You lost, you got Klawberd, You're not about to win.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
You know what's coming for thirty minutes, forty minutes, an hour,
maybe longer. Happens in football quite a bit now. The
Bills game's a little different. But once the momentum started building,
you're like, they're not gonna win this. They're not gonna
hang on, even when they kick the field goal to
get to overtime, it was a little different. Basketball games
can swing on the very last play the clock can

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very often they do, and last night's games like the
worst gut punch of all. When Cougar's are in front,
I know they've been in front all night long. Oh
they're still in front. There's only a couple minutes left.
I know they're gonna hang on. They're gonna make one
play and they're gonna win.

Speaker 9 (37:01):
All.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Florida's in front now. Yeah, but the Cougars are only
down two. They got twenty seconds to work with. They're
gonna make a play and we're going to overtime. But
we're gonna We're gonna win this game. They're gonna draw
something up like they did earlier in this tournament. They're
gonna win. I feel good about this. They don't even
get off a shot. You're up, up, up, up. Everybody's
on their feet, everybody's off the couch, everybody's standing on

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their barstools.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
And this is what happens.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
It's very, very different than most of these other sports,
certainly basketball and baseball to some degree. And that well,
it can only happen in the last game. It can
only happen when you are in a game seven, last game.
Otherwise there's another day to play if you're down three
to two, or you know, all sorts of other scenarios
are at play. And you've been doing this for two weeks.

(37:45):
Last one night where you're winning, the game's over. You've
got this. You're about you're about to become champions, and
in their case for the first time ever, for a
program that I still think is a little underrated for
what they've history workley accomplished, and the talent they have produced.
And now two coaches that are among the all time greats,

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both of whom will be in the Hall of Fame. Finally,
Guyvey Lewis is a Hall of Famer, and after Kelvin
Sampson hangs it up, he will be a Hall of Famer.
The idea that he would have cemented it if he
won one game. He's already got seven hundred and ninety
nine wins. So now that he doesn't win last night,
he hasn't cemented it. You're trying to tell me, you

(38:29):
people that if you don't win the title, you can't
get in. Well, then run down the list of coaches
that are in there that don't have one and get
back to me on that, because there's a bunch of them.
Last night's game doesn't keep him out. Last night's game
wouldn't have put him in because he's already in. But
last night not the Cougar's finest hour. And one thing
that Kelvin said that really stood out to me was

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this is what we've been doing all year, closing out wins,
being in close games, and being the team that makes
the plays. The double OAHs time win against Kansas countless
others in the game. You gotta go all the way
back to Saturday to reference of the team that made
the plays at the end of the game to win it.

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And last night they had five turnovers in the final
three minutes and that can get shots off. It was
just very uncharacteristic. Credit to Florida for being the team
that forced them into these decisions and these mistakes, and
their inability to score for two minutes to close out
the game just very On twenty twenty four to twenty five,
U of h like.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
That's why that's their reputation to be clutch.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
You had Kenny Smith on national television saying, we give
our moniker of Clutch City, and we just played that
audio yesterday afternoon before this game. You just expected it
even when they were down. Like you said, did he
take it back after their ash last night they have?
That's unfortunate. Well, I mean, look, the Rockets had to
have Choke City headlines to get to Clutch City.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
But that's the difference. There was still games left to
be played.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
The thirty five and now five Cougars lost to the
now thirty six and four Florida Gators, who played in
one of the best conferences we've ever seen put together.
They did not lose to Sasquatch State, which was made
famous by Kelvin earlier. How about this miss tournament. This
it's a very good team. They did what they wanted

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to do. Defensively, they held down the guy who ended
up winning and deservedly so. Most outstanding player of the tournament.
Long went out standing until late, but he was very
outstanding at that point in time, and that's what great
players can do. It might not be there an overall night,
but it was his moment to help his team to
a national title.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
And that's what Clayton Junior did. Somebody I didn't I
don't remember who it was.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Last night on X tweeted a screen cap and it's
Will Harris about to deliver the pitch to Howie Kendrick
in Game seven against the Nationals. The only difference is
he got to throw that pitch. The Kougs didn't get
a final shot off good or bad.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, they didn't miss or make multiple at bats after that. Yeah,
that was in the seventh inning with one out. I
mean there was Now you want to bring up who
didn't get into the game. That's another story that goes
into that whole scenario.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
And he could have kept it from being such a
lopsided loss. Right, they were already losing, right.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
The lead was two to one because Granky was awesome
all night long, and then he ran out of bullets
and you brought in a guy who had a one
five zero era for that season.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Stu bitter about that team not winning the World Series
post season is different.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
You go to him almost every time he was probably
and you had overused and it's not like he made
it horrible pitch and it's not like the guy hit
it to the moon.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well, let's face it, the Dodgers pitchers overall were overused
going into the latter stages of the twenty seventeen World Series,
and the Astros made them pay for it.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
How about your your pal Klay Travis on the X
platform earlier this week, which part, well the part where
he was he was yesterday Live last night about this
this this is a baseball related, okay comment. Yesterday the
Dodgers were at the White househ in advance of their
loss to the Nationals.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Right and their first loss. Uh no, they have three
of them now. For some reason, I thought they were
still undefeated. That whole Japan thing screwed me up. And
he writes, and he writes.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
With a video attachment of Trump talking to Mookie. Mookie
bets Comma, who didn't attend the twenty seventeen Dodgers White
House ceremony but later said he regretted the decision, gets
a shout out and handshake from Trump.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Well, he made it very apparent that he was not
going to visit the White House back then.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
I guess let me read it again, Okay, Mookie bets
Kama who didn't attend the twenty seventeen Dodgers White House
ceremony but later said he regretted the decision, gets a
shout out and handshake from Trump.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Doesn't he mean the twenty eighteen Red Sox ceremony.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Oh, a second post from Clay Travis immediately after asterisk
Red Sox twenty eighteen ceremony. My bad point is he
said he regrets to this and went this year good
for him.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So a lot of things were happening as you were
reading that sentence when you said asterisk, I thought it
was going in a different direction.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
No, he realized his mistake, yeah, and just added a
second post, but left the original up so it continues
to read the twenty seventeen Dodgers White House ceremony, which
doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Clay like, hey, I'm not going to give give him
too much grief when that's his second focus. Now he's
into politics now. Although these two worlds collided on this post,
that was erroneous.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Apparently there has been a Dodger's White House celebration, but
it was in twenty twenty one when they.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Went yeah, yeah, and thus he would not have gotten
to shake the hand of the person who's currently president.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Right because he wasn't there, correct? Did they get to
shake the hand of the guy who was president when
he was there?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
I mean, fifty fifty peoply should go back here and
there and pull some I'm sure pure unadulterated, actual excellence
from Joe Biden when he turned around and said whatever
he said to Justin Turner Clayton Kershaw. I'm sure there's
some gold there like we get from Trump. There's no questions, no,
just different different.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I wonder if you whispered at them angrily.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
But yeah, that going back to last night's loss, and
then again you flip like if you're like me and
you're upset, and so you want to you want to
change the mood. Well, at least the Astros have the
Mariners to still kick around. Nope, Nope, that didn't happen either.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
They've done this in Seattle for years. They did it
in Oakland when Oakland was competitive for years. They just
find just something gets in their way late and they
got probably, i mean certainly comparable to their opening day
start from fromber What hidden was Nesky did last night?
Eighty two pitches to get twenty one outs, was never

(44:49):
in any trouble. He unfortunately had one inning where back
to back pitches were hit for hits, a single followed
by a home run from a super light hitting infielder,
but nonetheless it put them on front to to nothing.
Two The followed the next inning with his homer, and
Logan Gilbert was thus gone soon after he allowed a hit,

(45:10):
but the Astros were gifted two runs and took the
lead in the eighth inning, and they couldn't hold onto
an eighth inning lead. Probably weren't going into or we
were not going to have Josh Hayter available to them.
It would have possibly, I think the intention was clearly
give Travis Taylor Scott the eighth inning.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Travis Scott would have been different and it be real
different pitches for Cleveland. Still, right, that guy that looks
like Travis Scott, Tristan McKennon.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
There you go, your name, recall very thin, very good,
always Travis. I'm one of those counts.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
You give Scott the ball in the eighth, then you
give a brave of the ball in the ninth, and
you're fine. He's the caliber of a closer, and unfortunately
you had to use a brave in the eighth because
Scott couldn't retire anybody, despite the fact the Mariners gave
him an out, so he gave a gameway and if
Munnos was phil, the Astros had no chance against him,
especially with Yiner at the plate. Another story we've not

(46:04):
yet talked much about, janer Diz totally lost at the plate,
which is a very bad thing. What is a very
bad thing in the NBA? You have forty seven wins
and no coach with three games to go. Let's pass
that actually happened today. We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Next the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Matt Hatcher here on the eighteen Tuesday edition, wex Sac
and Cole with you seven one three, two one two
five seven ninety. You want to wait in on the coups,
want to weigh in on the Astros or way in
on the absurdity of what's been going on in the
NBA here the last week or so, thought it was
odd that the Memphis Grizzlies would say goodbye to Taylor
Jenkins this late in the season, but they did so

(46:51):
just a couple of games ago, weeks ago, and are
moving forward with a team that is in a jumbled
mess in the Western Conference. If you have thirty two losses, well,
welcome to the Western Conference. Five teams have thirty two
losses right now. Four of them have identical records. One
of them is remaining on the Rockets schedule. They have
the Clippers tomorrow night. A thirty two loss team with

(47:14):
forty seven wins is the Denver Nuggets. The Rockets will
have them on Sunday here at Toyota Center, and the
Lakers just a shade above them all but not super
close to Houston, the only team that can prevent Houston
for being the number two seed, just a little bit
ahead of them. So what would you say that you're
doing if you're running an NBA team and your Michael Malone, Like,

(47:37):
what's what's your job every day when you go to work, Well.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Obviously game planning for whatever team, you can say that,
get a face, this manage.

Speaker 9 (47:44):
It was a great job of skippering.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
But you wouldn't in his case, what kind of job
do you think he was doing? I mean, you just
I'm afraid he just listening to something in the break
that indicated, well, the Nuggets have won one and championship.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Who was the head coach him and it was how
long ago? Two years ago?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
So one champion's been crowned since he and his Denver
Nuggets won the title. So would you say he's been
doing a good job. Yes, wrong, so says the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
He's the winningest coach in their franchise history and he's
been there a decade.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
He fired, he fired, so he fired, he fired.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
The Nuggets fired their head coach. With three games to
go in the season, They're headed to the playoffs. They
could be the eighth seed, they could fall in the
play in tournament and missed the playoffs entirely.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
They could rise up to the three seed. If healthy,
they could win the title. And things were so bad
internally apparently between he and upper management, that they got
rid of their head coach, who two years ago was
enjoying the parade. Who's super outspoken, and I cannot wait

(48:59):
for him to burn some bridges here and say what
you know what?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
You know why he can do that, because everybody is
going to line up this offseason to hire this guy
because he's an absolute amazing head coach. Let me tell
you before we move into any more discussion on this.
You know what this is right now. Uh, And I
know you can relate to this, you know how.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
You whether you're in a very very happy marriage or
it's just stable and you don't have a lot of
drama in it, you know, or some points it might
supposed to be relating to.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Well, here's the thing, like you, uh, you look at
when you're in that situation.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Maybe some of you have or have it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm not talking to everybody out there, but for those
of you who have, you've been in that kind of
relationship and you go and you see like jan and
Michael fighting at the dinner party or whatever.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
You see a couple who it's just uncomfortable to be
around then and just put on some of Hunter's music.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Relax took me by the hand. The smell of candle,
my gosh, put on the plasma TV, watch some TV.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
It's like, it's the best episode ever on me.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Everybody, if you.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Want to, you know, turn the lights on, just pull
on the Saint Pauli girl. He has soft teeth. So anyways,
snip snap, snip snap.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You know how you like see couples like that and
you think to yourself, Man, I'm glad I don't have
to deal with that. That's the Rockets right now. They've
got their coach. He's not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Yeah, it's it's hard to believe you could in both
in both situations, in Memphis and in Denver.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Right now, Memphis has twice in as many weeks.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Butt's think about the difference just even in those two
even though I think it's crazy what both teams thought
was necessary. Two years ago or last season, Memphis was
in shambles for a lot of different reasons, and they
made major coaching changes without firing the head coach. They
got a healthier team and their star point guards no
longer in suspension, and then this year they fired their

(50:46):
head coach. They're one of those forty six and thirty
two teams. Technically they're eighth at forty six and thirty two. Well,
the team and fourth also has the same number of losses,
so lots can still happen. And now this team, two
years removed from a title, people are looking. I don't
think it had anything to do with a recent losing streak.
If you're paying any attention, and I'm sure Denver is
they're in it. They've had guys in and out of

(51:08):
the line of Jamal Murray's missed all these games. Nikola
Jokich is coming off a stretch where he missed five games.
He's now back on the court while they've continued to lose,
while he's gone crazy with his numbers again and making
people wonder did.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
We give Shay the MVP too soon?

Speaker 5 (51:22):
So whatever the problems are, the coach has a system
in place that when they're healthy, they're absolutely the team
that's next in line, even with the Rockets sitting in second.
If I had pull everybody, give me the eight healthy
Western Conference teams to tell me who's most likely to
win the win the West.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
If it's not okay, see, I think the answer would
be Denver and.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Everything so bad internally it's gonna get because they're not
making this happen because it's just too bad.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
We can't continue.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
They're making this happen because they think it's gonna be better.
The next three, four, five, six weeks are on into
their long playoff run.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
So in this Western Conference that we're talking about, that's
so crowded, so jam logjammed. And by the way, don't
think that it's not funny to me and others that
you look at obviously Okac's at the top of the list.
Rockets have separated themselves. They're the only fifty win teams
still with a handful of games to go in the

(52:18):
NBA right.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Other than the Calves, Celtics and Thunder. Their magic number,
by the way, for the Rockets is one to not
have anything left to play for. They'll be the number
two seed if they win any of their three remaining
games or if the Lakers lose any of their remaining games,
and their rumor which is at home and that's against Houston.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Yeah, but they're also rumored to be resting a bunch
of starters tonight against OKC, who's smarting from two straight losses.
I'm guessing by the time we go to sleep tonight,
the Rockets are going to be locked into that number
two spot.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
But going back to.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Lakers are playing back to back tonight and tomorrow Thunder MAVs. Well,
it's about time, and then they have the Rockets three
games in four days.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Good hope. Metaphorically they die at the hands of the Rockets.
The Rockets owe them one after the other night. But
going back to the Western Conference and what we were
talking about the beginning of this season. You and I
set out with our best case scenario, dreams, aspirations for
the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
What could be the next step for this.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Forty one and forty one team, Remember that was their
record a year ago at this time, well not quite
this time, and we were, like, I said, I think
they'll make the playoffs. Lakers won't. Those two things are
looking weird right now, but I said they would probably
you know, succeed. Maybe you're fighting for that last home
court advantage. Best case scenario. I never in a million years,

(53:38):
And what did you say at that point? And you've
always said this, Well, there has to be how many
teams that have to not make it ahead of them?

Speaker 5 (53:45):
We're eleven, so to make the top six, knowing that Memphis,
who was also out of the playoffs, would there are
a bunch of teams you need to now be better
then Now that was short markets past nine, all of them,
all of them.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
And that was more when you said that, though you
were still talking in a short term sense. Long term,
you now have three teams that potentially, well that we're
ahead of you last year, but potentially for the long
term have self sabotaged.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Dallas, Memphis, Denver.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Those were all really good teams a year ago, and
they have torpedoed shot themselves in the foot any which
way you can think of. Like, they still have good
talent on all three of those teams.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
Yeah, and again i'd separate those groups as Dallas took
talent off of their team. Dallas is stupid or there's
no other way to put it, but they didn't make
a deal that I think it makes them a better
shot to win the win the West, or be really good.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I mean, they bet the Rockets are like a crack
at Kyrie and Anthony Davis again next year when they
both get healthy.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Right, but they'll both be Mavericks. It's not gonna be
this first half dominance crap that Deloy, Denver and Memphis
might not succeed this year. But they didn't.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
They didn't uproot their roster. They didn't change their fortunes.
From a talent standpoint, the best player are still there,
They're they're the talent in Denver. The guys that won
the title are still there. The group that won the
title is Denver.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Is self sabotage and because of what a cold war
between your coach and your gelf sabotaged. How do you
know they're going to be worse next year because Mike Malone,
You're not gonna get a better coach than I really
don't believe who's available versus what he has done for you,
and you're gonna get better.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Taylor Jenkins is available, great, good luck with that. I mean,
he's won roughly the same amount of games the last
three years.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
And so what you're arguing is, well, Michael Malone couldn't
do it with this group again, so let's go get him.
I'm not arguing that at all. I'm saying you're the Nuggets,
Well they're I just.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Said I think I'm just saying the word self sabotage
is it does seem their players are there, but I
guess they think they're gonna win more now like this year,
some some assistant, some interim coach is going to take
the Nuggets from where they were under Mike Malone right
now and for the next three weeks like they're gonna
get better. Like I don't see how that happens at all.

(56:04):
But in the future, could they bring somebody in that
could elevate them? I guess I agree to It should
be clear Michael Malan's awesome. He's unquestionably now the best
coach on this He'll.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Be the first coach. Yeah, snatched up. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
He will probably say I want to take off here
and we win. Oh wow, I'm not coaching here because
but he helped build this too.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Tell me what team he's gonna coach.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
You're right, well, I don't know. We still haven't seen.
Who is gonna be fired without a coach. Currently is Memphis.
That's what's funny if these two guys switched places. But
the thing is what the self sabotaged term also comes
in the form of Ja Morant.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
If you're talking about Memphis. This guy can't stay out
of his own way. All of this is to reemphasize God,
I love Ema Udoka. I love emy Udoka and the
Rockets do too, and they better never let him walk
out that door. Uh, because you're building something here in Houston.
And uh oh, by the way again, thunder Lakers. Tonight
with that loss by the Lakers, Rockets clinch that two seed.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
That is sweet. One year later we come back.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
We will hear from Astro's manager Joe Spotta.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
You know after that conversation, Greek Tony wade in and said, oh,
by the way, look all the all of the guys
for the Lakers that may have been resting tonight, they're
now listed as probable as they go against the OKAC Thunder.
But I would still say that the Thunder would be
favoring a game like that. They're not resting anybody.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
They haven't so far.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Saw that against the Rockets, saw that against the Lakers
in their first meeting of these two. I don't think
the Lakers are going to really truly be resting anybody
until they've at least.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Clinched the three spot.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
I don't think they're gunning hard for the two spot,
but it certainly is well within their reach. Both the
two and three spot keep them from seeing Oklahoma City
until the Western Conference Finals if they both reached the point,
and obviously you would think it gives them a it
gives them a lesser team, I guess. But these matchups
are what it's all about, and nobody knows who's going
to be four, five, six, seven, or eight. At this point,

(58:10):
Sacramento's about to lock in one of the two play
in spots, and the Mavericks are not far behind. Phoenix
is still at that window slightly Ajar to slide in there.
We spent a bunch of today's show talking about the
unfortunate results of two games played last night, the Cougar's
loss and the Astros loss.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
But there was a massive.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Loss for the Astros yesterday, long before the game started,
with what happened with Spencer Araghetti. He broke a bone
yesterday and it's on his pitching hand and he's gonna
miss an extended period of time.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
He did it during BP.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Totally normal for Astros players pitchers to be on the
field and having playing catch in the outfield when the
other team is taking beach better than having a catch.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Yeah, we see it all the.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Time at Minute Made Park, and if we were at
other ballparks, is off and we dike In Park, and
if we were at Paul Parks, we'd see it there too.
Totally normal and you usually have protectors. Somehow the ball
got through and that's the result. Is obviously not making
his next start. But for more on the Spencer Gary
Getty situation. Earlier today, Joe Spota had his weekly visit
with The Matt Thomas Show with Ross and that's where

(59:18):
the conversation begins a little bit of what you heard
or missed earlier today with Astro's manager Joe A.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Spotta.

Speaker 11 (59:25):
Yeah, so I did not see what happened, but you
know I heard from our trainers and also from a
Spencer that you know, he was playing catch a ball
was hit during during batting practice of satter Manners batting
practice and struck him in the uh in that right
thumb obviously, And then we learned that.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
He has a fracture.

Speaker 11 (59:46):
So right now, he flew to Houston today and he's
seen our doctors, and once we hear from our doctors,
will know the extent and how long you know, we
will have Spencer.

Speaker 12 (01:00:01):
Out for and how much of this is just some
crazy freak thing with Spencer in the wrong place. I mean,
this is just have you ever heard of anything like this?

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:00:11):
You know we has happened where to this extent I
have never never seen it, And you know it's a
freak accident, but you know it could have happened to anyone,
and it just sucks to happen to to Spencer, and
you know we we have to, you know, deal with
this blow right now, and and and and then get

(01:00:33):
them healthy and get them ready back and get him
back on the mound as.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Soon as possible. And uh, this opens the door for
someone to give us, give us some valuable innings in
that rotation.

Speaker 13 (01:00:46):
Two hits, yesterday's skip in the game, and look, everybody
goes through these offensive doldrums.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
And I think we even talked about this a year ago.

Speaker 13 (01:00:54):
When you first started about if this happens in the
middle of June or July, it's just a blip on
the radar. But when it out to the early part
of the year, and now that we've kind of basically
in the two weeks of the season, are you seeing
a little bit of signs? Obviously not the case last night,
but the great comeback against Minnesota and Sunday who had
to be very encouraging. And what does it say about

(01:01:16):
where we are today with hitters, because look, I would
say offense generally speaking around baseball, with the exception of
maybe the Yankees is a little bit down or is
down for everybody else.

Speaker 11 (01:01:25):
Yeah, you know what, I always think that, you know,
the first two weeks of the season, pictures come out
at screen training. You know they're coming in, They're coming
in hot. You know, they they.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
They they're built up, they've got the best stuff. We're running.

Speaker 11 (01:01:41):
We come into some of these cities, you know, the weather,
it's it takes hitters time to adjust and and and
get ready for for the kind of pitching that we've
seen in the last the first nine games.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
We've seen some really good pitching, and I think it
takes time hitters to to adjust. I do like the fact.

Speaker 11 (01:02:03):
That we steal, grinding and fighting through through my bats
that you mentioned the winning in Minnesota. I think yesterday
we faced one of the best starting pitchers in the game.
We we got them out of the game in ninety
ninety five pitches, five and two thirds. You know, those
are things that we want to do as an offense.
You want to get in the bullpen early. So we
we've seen some positive signs about our approach and if

(01:02:26):
you continue to do that throughout the season, those will
turn out into positive results. We start getting hits, you
start getting big hits. We're getting some guys who you know,
all two ways out to a good start. I think
Giordani's starting to square some balls up, Paradis.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
Getting on base. You know, we are doing some things.

Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
Well offensively, we're putting some bunts down, we're stealing some basses,
We're trying to steal some runs here and there.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Uh, those are positive signs.

Speaker 11 (01:02:50):
We just got to give our we got to give
this some time and and our guys will we'll, we'll, we'll.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
We'll come through.

Speaker 12 (01:02:57):
Cam Smith not in the lineup for a couple of games.
For you. You're just given the young guy a couple
of days to clear his head.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Then do you plan on using him today?

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll he'll play today.

Speaker 11 (01:03:06):
Trying to get him, trying to get him a couple
of days to you know, he's been working on some
things with.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Our hitting coaches.

Speaker 11 (01:03:11):
You know, very important for us to to understand that.
You know, there is a process in plays where a
young player adjusting through the major leagues.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
It takes time.

Speaker 11 (01:03:23):
We have to help him through that process and help
him through that development process. And my job is to
balance both, you know, help the young player establish himself
at the big leagues and all trying to win make
a league games.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
So he'll be fine, but it's gonna take some time
for him to adjust.

Speaker 13 (01:03:40):
Look, I've not had enough of face to face watching
jose L two a play left field.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
You played him yesterday at second base.

Speaker 13 (01:03:47):
Two questions on Jose, and I promise this will not
be a season long conversation piece, but one, how much
balance do you want between the two positions? And two,
what was it like visiting with Jose over the weekend
playing in a different ballpark, knowing that you prepare for
minute made. It's one thing, but you play And also, Siri,
twenty nine different other major league ballparks.

Speaker 11 (01:04:08):
Yeah, and he's going to play it on on on
on all.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
The major you know, major league ballparks.

Speaker 11 (01:04:13):
He's going to get you know, he's going to get
some playing time in left and he's also going to
go get some playing time in second base. You know
yesterday example, you know, he allows me to play from
your dining left I could d h das trying to
get his back going, trying to get an extra lefty
bat in the line. No with Keratini, So I'm going
to have to make those moves to get everyone in there,

(01:04:36):
trying to put a good offense on the field, trying
to create opportunities for everyone to to play, and Hosy's open,
uh to doin both. And you know he played a
really good second base yesterday, and he'll go back and
play some left field today. I'm not going to, you know,
tell you how many games going to be in left field?
How many games going to be in second base?

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
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Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
You know? I'm going to stay in the present.

Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
We're trying to win major league games, and Josey is
working really hard at both and Posey wants to win.
And as long as we all on the same page
and Pep will continue to move forward with our with
our plan.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
That's two ninths of the Astros lineup tonight. We'll see
what the rest of it is a little bit later.
So they take on the Mariners and they're very good.
Luis Castile, They'll see the other Louis Castillo tomorrow might
be good too, but just doesn't have the pedigree yet
in his major league baseball career. But cam Smith will
add to his twenty one plate appearances this evening and

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try to decrease his strikeout percentage, which is the highest
on the Astros at forty three percent of his plate appearances.

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Not ideal to start his career, but no better time
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Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Just watching a clip of Michael Malone during the break
after a bad loss to Portland about a month Well, yeah,
about a month ago, really calling out his team, like saying,
some of these guys are full of you know what,
and they will be the ones who don't really take
my message to heart, and then some of the other
guys will make adjustments.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I guess I just missed that in the course of
all this. I mean, there's a lot of NBA teams.
There's a lot of teams in general, and I don't
always hear every press conference because I'm not Adam Wexler
and I'll sit around watching press conferences all day long.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
But I guess I had just missed that, because I
guess when a team wins a championship, you think everything's
hunky dory for the most part when it comes to
just the basics. But I guess there was more deep
seated stuff at work there in Denver. Makes today's news
a little less surprising. I don't agree at all. Why
when he's telling the media that some guys on his

(01:12:13):
current team are full of bleep, you don't think that's
an issue in the locker room, or that things aren't
probably rosy, or you just think that's just something that
happens in the course of any NBA season.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
More of the latter, and this is what who are
you listening to? Your Hall of Fame or your best
coach you've ever had, the only guy whos ever won
a championship that you're only two years removed from. He's
talking about the leaders of the team.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I doubt it. You can't guess. It could be.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
I think between Gordon and Murray and Jokich and Brown,
like this is a pretty veteran team. That's so I
don't think he's doing anything publicly, which sometimes has people
you know, wait a minute, you know what, I don't.
You got to keep that stuff in house. So I
do understand where you're coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Well, does that nobody bats an eyelash, because that's who
he is, Michael Malone, while being very forward, I guess
at times, I guess, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
I didn't know that he had that kind of reputation
of doing that often. It surprised me. Well, he's but
he does have this reputation.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
He's talking just not always about his Teat's super blunt
about that's happening. And I know that now he just
happens to be saying it about his team. His team
is fifteen games over five hundred. They were fifteen games
over five hundred on February eighth, that's two months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Right now. It hasn't been good.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
They've been, you know, dealing with certain guys in and
out of the lineup. Both Jokich and Murray have missed
some time during those two months, and I think that's
the number one reason they are where they are, which
is the same place they've been. They haven't extended that
they if they'd played the way they'd played up until
that point, they'd be the number two seed. They'd be
twenty five games over five hundred like the Rockets are.

(01:13:49):
By the way, I haven't, so he's telling them, you
guys aren't bringing it every night. Portland just beat us
by nineteen points.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And Portland was playing better at the time, much like
Chicago did. These some of these teams that have bad
records have had better second halves or final quarters to
the season. But they shouldn't be losing to a team
like that when they have that talent.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Just one of those nights where it's hard to win
when Nikola Jokic is sitting and Jamal Murray is playing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I get it. That's a little inside the show Baseball
right there it was.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
It did happen to be a game that Jokic missed
and Murray was there for. Murray didn't have a great game,
he only scored ten, but it was more about the
other team, the Blazers, just because he brought it up.
That particular game, the Blazers outscored the Nuggets, who have
visions of winning at all this year. They outscored the
Nuggets in the second half seventy four to fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
That's not good. That's what good. Lord losses.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
By the way, just as in aside, going back to
the Rockets, because I can't maybe the Rockets flame out
in the first round. You know, stranger things have happened.
I don't happen to think they will. But it makes
me even more amused when I see things like this
happening and I hear from discount FS one Jesus saying,
you know who I'm talking about. People in Houston know

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who I'm talking about. That moron who somehow has he
has the best agent on the planet, has to because
he is an absolute idiot on like fifty different counts.
But him saying, well, well, the Rockets are actually a seven.
We know there are two, but they're actually a seven.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
No jack ass, They're at two and they've been a
two most of the season, right behind OKC. I know
you don't like it because it's not the Lakers and
it's not your you know, god Lebron James. But they're
behind the Rockets even though they beat them. Their record. Yeah,
what would just for Friday Night? If the Rockets blow
out the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Are we gonna see the same tongue wagging we've seen
all week from the Four Letter Network about the Lakers
and Austin Reeves being the secret ingredient to a championship.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
I'm so tired of it. It's just I can't wait for.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Them and the Warriors to match up in the first
round so I don't have to hear about one of these. Also,
rans are never worse.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
You can talk about injuries anyway you'd like and reference
older players are off injured players now, analysts, you can
analyze that however you see fit. But how would you
rank these teams going to the playoffs? There chances of
winning the West? Okay, season number one? What would you
do with two through eight? Not where they sit? You

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can give some consideration about who they might play and
something that has to be one any of that right,
You literally brought absolutely nothing, So I'm not sure how
much it can be in play. But if you had
to rank each team's chances, the team with Jokichen Murray,
the team with Luca and Lebron, the team with Jalen
and Alpi, the team with Anthony Edwards, team with.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
The stephurry is not going to score three points every night?

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
So what what would you say you would believe about
these teams? Just how about Reach be the team that
plays Okay, see that's the second best team because any
of these teams could end up on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Well, I'm not going to ignore Okay, So he's a
clearer and far and away number one. But after that,
I'm not going to ignore. Like, I know, we've kind
of argued about the Lakers this year, but as much
as it pains me, I'm not going to ignore what
Golden State has done since they got Jimmy Butler. I'm
not going to ignore. I mean, the Rockets ended their

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five game winning streak after ending the thunders eleven game
winning streak. The Golden State Warriors have been playing better
of late, and because they have pieces on that roster
who have either won or been to NBA finals. In
the case of Jimmy Butler, that experience matters to me.
It matters to me a lot more than Luka Doncic

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on the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
It's a nice little story. What's the difference he's been Butler. Yeah,
you're right, he is. You're right in the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
And he's on a team with Lebron who has actually
won and lost a lot of finals.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
I'm giving Jimmy credit for reaching the finals. Luca's done
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Yeah, but Jimmy is actually going to play defense that's
absolutely massive in the playoffs, and if you want to
laugh at it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
That's fine, and much worse offense. Well, he is very
good offensively.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
In the He's got this greatest shooter in NBA history
on his team, and the other guy has Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Yeah, the four title guy? Three time?

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Three four? Let me know the next time he wins
a championship. It ain't gonna happen this year either. They're
not a single person.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
There's not a single player on a single team you're
talking about that's gonna win another championship.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Well, he ask.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Of those two players, or of those two teams, who's
got a better chance of winning a title this year?

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
You only get those.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Two Golden State or the Lakers, like o case he
doesn't exist, that's pretty That's probably the team.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
They're kind of neck and neck in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
And the point of this actual question was how good
the Rockets are? Would you put the Rockets ahead of
any of the three teams I brought up the Nuggets, Lakers,
or the Warriors. I think it'd be hard not to
put them ahead of the Warriors. We just watched them
play what absolutely felt like a playoff game. The Warriors
were giving everything they had and were healthy, same with

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Houston in their building. Rockets won severely outplayed them. Be
hard for me to say, well, but in previous games
this year are previous games in previous year.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
I don't care about those games. I care about these games.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
They're one and one against the Butler Warriors.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Could be hard to say. I like Golden State more.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
They just have more experience Golden State, but the other
two teams. I hope both the Lakers and the Rockets
again put everything they have into this coming game. So
maybe we'll get a little bit of a handle on it.
We've seen it once and now we have a chance
to see it here. I think it matters. But since
just without getting to the answer, even though it's an

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interesting conversation. Since the deadline, the trade deadline, the Warriors
are twenty one and six, the Lakers are eighteen and eleven,
and the Rockets are twenty and eight, fifth best record
in the NBA. It's not the playoffs, but it's why
they're the two seed. They've continued to win. They didn't
do anything to make themselves better. They just played better.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
They intentionally didn't do anything, whether it was to make
themselves better or not. They wanted to stampat with this group,
which was their intention coming into the season.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Four o'clock hour coming up next.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
We'll reset a few things and I'll tell you why
Kelvin Samson lost in more ways than one.

Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
Last night the eighteen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your
team there.

Speaker 20 (01:20:13):
Is Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
It's the four o'clock hour of the A team Sports
Talk seven ninety on a Tuesday edition of the program,
wex Ac and Cole Thompson with you as we take
you up until six o'clock tonight. We've gotten in a
lot of discussion about the U of H. Cougars and
that absolute heartbreaking, crushing, gut punch loss last night to

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the at the hands of Florida, a game in which
how many seconds was it against sixty three?

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Florida led the game for sixty three seconds, So.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
It's just brutal, just the most brutal aspect of sport
a little bit early and nothing until the final minute. Ugh,
And I guess like it wouldn't have been any less debilitating, sad, depressing,
all that kind of stuff. But maybe you feel a
little bit better if you at least got to look
at it versus not getting a shot off.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
Well, I don't think there's any question you'd feel better about,
you know, a shot from Manual Sharp that hit the
back of the rim or went in and out, or
an offensive rebound that just wasn't there, or from LJ.
Cryer on the couple of prior possessions, or from Sharp
on the possession before that. That's what's even more painful,
because not only did you lead for much of the game,
had answers for Florida's run for about six or seven minutes.

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That's how early in the second half they got it
tied but never took the lead.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Is the final three and a half minutes or.

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
So, you know, five turnovers on a night where you
barely had any You've taken care of the basketball. You
hadn't let the pressure that Florida was putting on you
defensively create those bad situations for your offense. You know,
LJ Cryer a really good game again offensively in the making.
Once they finally broke the seal on hitting a three pointer,
which both teams struggled with earlier in the game. Cougar's

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probably run away with things in the first half. If
Florida isn't the first team of the two to really
kind of start hitting a few three pointers, definitely kept
them much closer at halftime than they otherwise would have been.
Total change and how the game was officiated from half
one to half two, I would say, for both teams,
but it was so magnificently lopsided with the number of

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fouls called in that second half against you, of h
the overall discrepancy from the game wasn't quite so wide,
but from the half, especially for a very specific portion
of the half, very much changed what you could do
with your personnel because of immediate foul trouble. One of
the guys has been covering the game all season long

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over at the Worldwide Leader, Jay Williams took to the
X platform on that note and he wrote, you can't
call the first half like UFC fight and call the
second like it's a ballet. It's a pretty good way
to look at how they let both teams hammer each other.
I'm not saying it was the correct way to do it,
but once you've established it, you've established it. You're not

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playing a second game with the score zero zero and
no fouls on any players. You've played a half, the
players have played a certain way. I mean, they don't
switch referees, so you get some consistency you'd think within
a game. I understand how awful it is. My gosh,
we've got new referees tonight. They'll probably call it totally differently.
Oh my gosh, there's a new guy behind home play tonight.

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I wonder what the strike zone will be. It didn't change,
It didn't change, and the change at the half is odd,
but he continued shout out to Florida for best adjusting
to the second half. But this game was horribly officiated.
Only four fouls total Carl in the first half, twenty
five fouls called in the second. If you set the
tone for how the game is officiated, then keep it
that way. The whole game sounds so simple. The game

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also wasn't getting out of hand. They didn't lose control
of the game. I didn't think there were instances where
the players were trying to become the Rockets and Warriors
and take things under their own hands or anything to
the sort. They were adjusting to how the game was called.
Pretty easy to adjust to it, expect contact and try
to play through it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
And they did.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
Both teams just fine for twenty minutes. And it also
keeps players on the court because you're not going to
be in foul trouble. Like I said, not good or bad,
but this is what they did. The consistency part of
it was bad and it definitely impacted the game. Certainly
seemed like it impacted one team more than the other.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
And all that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Being said, just like we talked about on Saturday night,
every opportunity to win it when with three minutes left,
you had possession after possession after possession, you weren't getting
to the free throw line, and you weren't taking shots,
you were turning the ball over. They had every opportunity,
after all those things had taken place, to just make up.

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I mean, one more play probably wins them the game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
And I feel bad that it is noteworthy that you
let Florida goaltend a shot in the first half. Just
all three guys missed it. It wasn't even that hard to
get to tide the game. I mean, you've played another
twenty plus minutes. Throwing is the game play.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
The game is going to be played differently with the
score being different. It also led to an immediate runout
and three pointer right Florida in a half where nobody
was making any shots. It's such a magnified call. It's
a point scoring play that they botched.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
And with all of the reviews to look at everything else,
I just don't if if you of h saw that
like over on the bench on a tablet or whatever
the system is, and they asked.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
So they had this thing hanging over the center of
the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
That's one thing but the rest, you know, the rest couldn't.
They were even closer than that camera could have provided
the view and they didn't see it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Yeah, which unfortunately was also nothing new, and we didn't
just start talking about the college officials in this postseason.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
They were bad in the Duke game with U of H.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
They were bad in the Florida Auburn game, and that's
two of these sixty seven games that were played in
this tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
They were bad. And most of the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Funny thing about that Duke game is that people were
complaining about the Cooper flag call that shouldn't have been
a call or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
Let's say, there's no call. How do you change the
score there? You don't, right, there's no change in the score. Now,
who grabbed the ball? Who's going to get the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Let's talk about the entire night where Duke was able
to assault you of H on the floor time and
time again with no calls.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
I mean, I didn't think it was that bad. It
was pretty bad. Okay, it was violent.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
I thought Florida was much more physical with you of
H and allowed to be than Duke was.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Well, I think any time you're playing a team that's
bigger than you by nature, that's going to either happen
or look like it's happening.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
Well, I think to me, at least Florida had that
same advantage. They played two bigs much of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
They got a lead that way early because the big
kept slipping to the basket and U of H just
decided not to defend them like they were Travis Kelcey
playing the Texans.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
The refs were also like, we can't just call it again.
But he moved his feet. Oh my god, he traveled
like a thousand. Yeah, it was a few of those times.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
So remember the iconic, unfortunately look on Kelvin Samson's face
when they didn't even get a shot off on the
final possession.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
He had very little emotion for that entire possession. He
wasn't yelling at anybody, He wasn't screaming, he was running
up and down, His hands didn't fly in the air.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
He was just six sated on like the rest of us.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Or he was also thinking. He wasn't thinking about this.
I'm just doing this for effect, you know. He got
one hundred thousand for advancing to the second round and
a sweet sixteen each. He got three hundred thousand for
advancing to the final four. These are all bonuses in
his contract. He would have gotten another half a mill

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if they had just scored three more.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Points last night.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
That sucks, and I know it's not it's the last
thing on his mind when he's trying to console literal
wailing young men in the locker room afterwards, as it
was described. But I'm sure at some point over the
course of the night, his agent or he himself, or
what you sat down at least in the last twenty
four hours. I'm gonna guess he knew that he was

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going to get a half a million dollar bonus if
he won that game.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
It's your I know it's noteworthy to point it out.
He's definitely not concerned. He's making almost five million dollars
a year.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Well, he could have made a half of another one
he's made.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
How many times over has he made five hundred thousand
dollars in the last twenty years.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Well, i'd like to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I'd like to think of it as if I were him,
and therefore I want that five hundred grand that he
lost me.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
Well, if you were him, you'd also have made four
and a half million this year. Four last year, four,
the year before, three and a half, the year before.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
When does the little nepotism clause kick in? When does
he walk away?

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
I mean, I don't think the rumor was that if.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
He won last night, he might have he might have
walked away. I mean, I I don't know what. I'm
not paying any attention to the rumors I've not seen.
I had not heard that at all heading into the game,
and I didn't read anything about it today. But it's
more about years old. He's co he's trying to win
his eight UNDERDS game. He has a chance to win
a title. He just went out and he and his staff,

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most of which will be intact it's been intact all
of these other years. Quantas White will become the head
coach of Louisiana now. He took the job a couple
of weeks ago, stayed with U of H through this
tournament run. I believe one assistant maybe going with him,
but Hollis and Kellen obviously and a few others will
be continuing. This upcoming class is by far the best

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recruiting class they've ever brought in. You know, the Flemings
and a pair Kingston Fleming and a pair of McDonald's.
All Americans are on their way to U of H.
I don't know how many of the players that could
return will, although I think it's a very high number.
I don't think we're going to see many, if any
transfers out of those that were key contributors. Maybe see

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a couple others. They could also bring transfers in. I
don't think we'll see a lot of that either. If
we just take the players that should return and these
three newcomers, and of course we've seen the way too
early Top twenty five seen two different ones. One of
them shockingly only has U of H at three, the
other one had them at number one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Cooper Flag is going to get drafted by the Utah
Jazz or whoever, so that takes him out of the equation.
But this could just be a very very very slow
build to actually accomplishing it. And this was just the
latest obstacle.

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
But you don't know what the other teams. We know
a good idea of you of H because of what
I laid out roster wise.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
But take the field versus you of AH. What if
I told you that Florida was gonna be awesome this year?

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
And but I didn't know why, Well, I didn't know
this player, Walter Clayton Junior was going to be unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
For where was he couple of years ago? Where was
he two years ago? He wasn't even on the team.
Where was he in the first half last night? When
players transfer in the very next year, they could be
the look a Cougar's point guard. Yeah, it changes so
much now because you can have a brand new team
with a brand new best player that isn't playing college
basketball for the first time with you next season.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
But Kelvin Sampson's program, in Kelvin Samson himself being the coach,
is something that not a lot of other well no
other team can say. But they don't have that as
a factor either. You know, there's plenty of other great
coaches out there. I just I hope that's what ends
up happening, because man, this this program over the last

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few seasons, dealing with this kind of heartbreak and then
to have what happened last night, that's a tough one.
We will get you caught up on some sad news
Astros related when we come back.

Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
The A Seed on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
It is the eight team Sports Talk seven ninety promised
this a few segments back apologize for not paying off
on the teas, but it is sad news. And my
question for WEX is, when Octavio Dotel arrived in Houston
in a deal for Mike Hampton, I know that it

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was probably easy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Well I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Maybe at the time it wasn't because Corsefield was still
relatively new. Did you think Mike Campton had gone to
where all pictures go to die basically, I mean, like
metaphorically speaking, their careers go to just out the pasture,
just simply because you cannot be a successful pitcher in
that altitude there, Like, did you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Because Mike Canton was awesome here in Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
Yeah, so he went from Houston to the Mets, that's
where they got Dotel from, and then from there went
to Colorado for two years.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I forgot about the Mets part of it. Well, that's
where this deal emanates from. That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Sadly, this whole conversation is brought on because Octavio Dotel
passed away today. It was an accident in a nightclub
in the Dominican where the roof collapsed and there were
a host of deaths. He was able to be extricated
from the building while our survivor, but was unable to

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be transported to the hospital in the same conditions passed away.
Spent those couple of seasons in Houston as part of
the tremendous back end of the bullpen. Was extremely useful,
and I mean that in that he was used a
ton by the Astros with Lydge and Wagner. Those couple
of seasons in Houston were at the onset of what

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turned out to be a pretty good career Dotel better
than seven hundred and fifty games pitched. There's only seventy
five pitchers in Major League Baseball history that had more
appears then he did. Eighty three of them came during
the two thousand and two season, and it was his best.
It was the most he'd been used, most games he'd
pitched in any season and what would turn out to

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be a long career, and he produced the best er
that season. He produced the best whip that season. He
had a pretty steady strikeout rate and was almost eleven
per inning during much of his career, when you could
finish a game after eighteen outs like the Astros could
with those three at the back end of their bullpen.
He was extremely useful. He was also used to get

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Carlos Beltron into an Astros uniform as part of that trade.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
It's just it's crazy how this is all. And by
the way, so he was killed in this along with
Right now they're saying at least forty four people, because
I saw an earlier report it was only twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
It's grown just a total fluke. It was an iconic
nightclub in the Dominican that collapsed. The roof collapsed. Nelson
Cruz's sister, another major leaguer, was also killed in the
same incident. It's just the most fluky thing ever. Got
a text from my buddy Larry who said, he said, man,

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that sucks. When we had seats in the bullpen, he
used to swap my kid's sunflower seeds for peanuts from
the concession.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Really nice guy. Here's stories like.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
That all the time when you're in those types of
parts of the stadium in the vicinity to fans where
you can have those interactions, and too many times unfortunately
you hear about negative ones. But yeah, by all accounts,
a good dude, a good teammate, and you mentioned it
just that was an electric bullpen at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
He was definitely a good dude.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
Was covering the team at the time with he and
many of the other players. They're extremely well liked, and
not just here in Houston, but in other ballparks and
other clubhouses. And was also I think most people remember
this because he was here when they opened their downtown
ballpark and he was the first ever starting pitcher at
the ballpark.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
He was Yes, how did that happen? Well, he was
a starter. He started his career or he began his
career as a starter.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
I guess he was only a Major leaguer for one
year before getting here, and most of his appearances with
the Mets were as a starter. And then his first
two years or first year with Houston, he had sixteen starts.
The second year they ticked it down to four. Godam
coming out of the bullpen the majority of the time,
and then he made no more starts the rest of
his career.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Is dotel Lydge Wagner the best trio in Major League history.
I know they didn't win at all, but I can't
think of a better threesome to try and.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Put up against that top five. It's definitely top.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
There was also so few of them in my opinion,
Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like there's too many.
Clear there's a lot of really good bullpens. Heck, the
bullpen the ass's face in the postseason. Even though everyone
remembers the starters for the White Sox just a couple
of years after their bullpen was sick. It was ridiculous,
but it wasn't a clear seventh, eight to ninth inn.
He guys would match up. Bass Jenks at the end

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was their closer and he was at sks fat Bobby Jinks.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
That was his name.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
His era of body style was totally normal for a
closer or a pitcher in general.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Was Lance Lann the last one?

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
I mean, nearly as many of them, But there's plenty
of Mark Portugal's. There's plenty of Rod Becks. You know
what's funny back in that era, are you like.

Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
Me in that?

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
You thought when when he was in his you know,
and I know this isn't the case because I've seen
the guy in the clubhouse, like Roger Clemens looked hefty
when he was in his full polyester at the time uniform,
but he wasn't like he's put on some weight now
because he's retired, But like when he played, when he
pitched for the Astros, he kind of looked like that
on the mound.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
In my opinion, I bet you he was bigger than
one of his teammates. That's why idly recognized as being huge.
Or one player with the Astros that wore the same uniform,
the brick reds or the pinstripes. I'm gonna look it up.
I envisioned him being a little bit bigger than Carlos Lee.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
You forget they played the huge. He's a monster human being.
If you've ever met him, you know this, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
Think about the greatest Astros pitchers current Verlander and Cole
and Fromber and Kichel and now Nolan Ryan and on
and on and on back.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Bigger than all of them.

Speaker 5 (01:38:30):
Oh well, yeah, everybody was bigger than Roy. He's much
bigger than Garrett. Yeah, heck, Andy's bigger than most of
these guys. But it wasn't because I would think of
him as a hulking force. But more he was not
in ideal shape.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
He pitched, My body felt fine, my elbow.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Yeah, No, Roger and again covering the team at the
time as you were.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
He was.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
He's huge, big person. Dotel was there. Four was his
last year, I believe, with the with the Astros traded
in four and the Beltron deal. Yeah, so I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I was like just starting to go into the clubhouse
very very sporadically, and it was more for like streaming purposes.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
So that put me in the visitors clubhouse, more stringing,
not streaming. There was no such thing back then.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Was this was where people would pay you to get
sound from the opposing clubhouse.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
Yeah, And you'd have to go find the rotary phone
or the phone with a headset that you could unscrew
so you could attach your clips to it so you
could send audio down the phone line.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
And then you went home.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
And if you needed to look up a plumber, instead
of getting an aqueduct plumbing company live read for me,
you would look on the phone book. It was this thing.
It was a book that had phone numbers in it.
Sometimes they were on you get over.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
No, well, w Onyce you look her up. What's her name?
Her name is Sarah Connor? Say if you get the
right one.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Sarah Connor, Yes, you've been elected for termination. It's if
she was listed.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
So terminator in twenty twenty five, cow would one of
the tea's, whether it was a T one thousand or
a different version, how would they find somebody's name?

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
What would they do?

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
Because he in.

Speaker 5 (01:40:03):
The original, he literally went to a phone booth and
ripped the page out of the phone book with the
multiple Sarah Connor listing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
He was looking for the one that had ice cream
in her apron that the kid put there in the
restaurant she worked at.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
He was he was looking for the one whose roommate
was dating Slider from Top Gun.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
From Top Gun.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Yeah, at least at least he got some before his
unfortunate demise.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
And then she was so hungry, Holy cow, what are
you going to be out the fridge?

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Why don't you just order a pizza next time? Man? Like,
how long were you? Never mind?

Speaker 10 (01:40:39):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
Uh yeah, that's that's very uh, that's very sad news.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
But like I said, you mentioned, it's ridiculous the amount
of elite pitching the Astros have had over the years
relative to their lack of success. The fact they didn't
win a World Series with that pitching staff is stupid.
Mentioned Brandon Backey, who might have been the best guy
in that world.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
He was the best guy in that world. Series.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Rogers Hamstring went south in Game one because they had
to waste roy Oswald on a stupid additional game in
Saint Louis because Lydge gave up that bomb to Pooholes. Hey,
news flash, people, the Cardinals lost that series. I know
you like to talk about Albert Poolholes's home run at
minute made, but yeah, they won that series.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
But yeah, you would have had roy Oswalt.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Going in Game one in the forty degree temperatures and
then maybe it warms up a little Well, it did
warm up a little bit, and then maybe Roger can
get you through Game two, as you had an elite
offense that year with Mike Lamb at third base.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
The Astros, a little bit like the Ross with their
legacy of bigs, definitely stands out when you graded out
versus every other Major League or NBA team, the Aces,
the Flamethrowers, the strikeout kings that the Astros have employed,
Roger Clemens, Nolan, Ryan Jr. Richard, Yeah, but justin Verlin

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like them paralleled right, Well, they should have won more
and maybe they derailed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Yeah, Randy Johnson was here but they couldn't beat Kevin Brown.
The only difference is with the rockets. They would have
derailed the Lakers had it not been for cocaine.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
What what happened with that?

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
We'll have to dig into that use when we get
into say what which comes your way?

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
Next the eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
A new signature seven called.

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
What's Up?

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (01:42:41):
With?

Speaker 8 (01:42:42):
What's Up? I say it was.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
Who that?

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
It's the time of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Well it's a signature segment, but it's a timeless show
where we ask ourselves the question that a lot of
us have asked over and over.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Since last night? Say what what's up with that? How
do you not get a shot off on the final
possession of a national championship game? Do you like the
direction I'm going with this?

Speaker 9 (01:43:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
Yeah, it's already Thursday. Say what? No, no, no, I'm sorry?
What's up with that? Well? Which one?

Speaker 9 (01:43:20):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
One or the other? They actually both apply to that scenario?

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
If for being honest, I mean, I think some people
have buried them for taking too much time.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
I mean I did.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
I don't think there was anything wrong with what they
did with how much time was left. I don't think LJ.
Cryer walked the ball up the court. I thought he
got them into the half court set with plenty of
time on the clock. Yes, in that situation, you might
want to go a little bit sooner than right there
at the end because of the situation where there's a
chance you're gonna get a second chance if you miss,
don't grab an offensive rebound and then foul because Flora

(01:43:58):
would have to make both shots to prevent a game
tying shot after that, or foul you when they're up three, potentially,
But they actually got into their motion of the offense
and had so much activity out top, it just didn't work.
They didn't get a screen set that freed anybody up.
There was a little bit too much ball or dribbling
from the two guards that had the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
I thought, for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
But if you go back and watch the play, Emanuel
Sharp's underneath the basket with Clayton and he darts out
to the three point line, and Clayton doesn't go with him.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
He just stays there.

Speaker 5 (01:44:30):
He kind of looks around as if it was everybody
out top, because I don't see anybody deep in the
pain missing somebody. He kind of just hung out there
and had Cryer been able to get the ball to
Emmanuel Sharp just a touch sooner, he probably just does
rise and fire. But even everything that happened exactly how
it happened, if Emmanuel Sharp pump fakes, he's gonna have

(01:44:54):
a wide open look, it's not gonna be an easy
close shot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
I mean, Kenny Smith against the Magic in Game one
of the Night Finals.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
I mean, it would have been well behind the college line,
but more than within his range. He was within his
range when he jumped up and dropped the basketball, and
none of his teammates were close enough to go grab
it from him once they realized he couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
But he didn't pump fake. Clayton was going running after him.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
We say it with you know, you watch enough Rockets
games with closeouts, NBA games in general. When someone's absolutely
wide open, you're not trying to block the shot. You're
trying to get out there as fast as you can
and fly with a hand in his face. And oftentimes
when the player recognizes it, he takes a dribble and
he takes a step to his left or his right,
whichever the available space is, and he takes a wide

(01:45:38):
open shot. It's a little bit different pressurized situation here, granted,
and the clock certainly is an impactful part of it,
but it was discussed during the timeout, according or during
the stoppage and play according to coach Sampson. In this instance,
there was a timeout and that was maybe part of
what they thought might materialize. You know, get they're going

(01:46:00):
to be charging very hard at an open shooter, and
that's what Clayton did. And unfortunately there was no pump fake.
Had there been, like I said, I think he would
have gotten a really good look. I don't know if
it goes in or not. He certainly has made a
bunch of huge shots. He hadn't made a huge shot
for the Cougars late in a game in the tournament
since Saturday, since two days before that. The score, the

(01:46:20):
shot that got them within three, he was He was
incredible all year. He was the guy I thought was
their best shooter. Crier got so strong. Statistically speaking, they
were essentially neck and neck, and both of them outstanding
free throw shooters.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
On top of it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
They really did have what turned out to be a
pretty good look had they executed it properly. But that's
the one possession where you can say that shark the
possession before he dribbled into traffic, unnecessarily got the ball
knocked away and then it went off of his knee
out of bounds. Alre Cryer unnecessarily drove baseline into trees

(01:46:56):
and couldn't even get the ball up above his shoulders
for the shot at Town. He stepped out of bounds
when he correctly saw there was a baseline opening for
him a couple minutes before that. They just made too
many mistakes. And to say, what of it was? You
mean the team that turned the ball over four times
and thirty minutes just turned it over five times in
three minutes. Yeah, sports, it happens all the time. It

(01:47:19):
happened two days ago. I mean, it's not identical, but man,
there were a lot of similarities between Duke not finishing
against you of H and U of H not finishing
against Florida, and by the same token, yeah, you of
H taking the game against Duke as Florida took the
game from U of H.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
This is That's exactly why I don't I mean, people
are calling this a choke job by the Cougars, although
I feel like you of H hung with Duke most
of the night whereas the Cougars separated themselves during a
large chunk of this game in the second half. Now,
I know they were down by fourteen to Duke as well,
so I guess you can argue that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
I think they were down that eight to nine to
ten range against Duke for just such a long period
of that game, even when they started to get closer.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Well, they have got to get stops, That's what I'm saying,
unable to do. And then for ten minutes they got
nothing but stops. I could see where people would say it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
I even kind of have referred to the Duke gag job,
But it's I don't want it to take away from
the fact that both you of h in that game
in Florida, in this game took the game. I can't
I can't not give credit where it's due on that
side of the ledger.

Speaker 5 (01:48:27):
Yeah, they made a few more clear and obvious turnovers
late in the game, more so, say than the Duke
necessarily did two nights ago, and the roles were reversed,
and you played two minutes, you didn't miss all your
shots down the stretch, you didn't take any They could
not run their offense well enough against Florida's defense to
even get shot attempts on multiple possessions. After they scored

(01:48:49):
their final points with just over two minutes to go,
they were scoreless the rest of the game. And they
didn't give up a lot of points. I mean, Florida
only scored sixty five and in those final two minutes
two with two h five on the clock, when Tugler
hit the first free throw, he missed the second. Florida
then went on a huge scoring run the final two

(01:49:10):
minutes three nothing on three free throws. No field goals
were made by either team in the final two minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
This is what I wanted to ask today, and I
can't believe it's taken me two hours and forty minutes
to get to it. Which U of H loss was
worse eighty three or last night more gun punch just
because of the manner in which the game winning basket
was made.

Speaker 5 (01:49:33):
I'll give it to you in a rhetorical question, who
do you think was a better college basketball team, Florida
or NC State?

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
That's NC State.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
This is legitimate from a regular season standpoint, a fringe
tournament team. They were playing to get in the tournament
as the season was ending, they lost a ton of games.
They lost double figure games that season. Florida got four times.
Florida won twelve straight games to end the season, including

(01:50:04):
their games in the SEC Tournament, which they were champions of.
NC State was not a good basketball team in the
regular season. They weren't awful. They were they did. I
think they deserved to make the tournament, but they weren't
among the best teams in the country. Florida was one
among the best teams in the country.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
One they didn't belong on the floor with you of
H that night, and Florida's clearly did last night.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
And I don't want to make this U of H
team seem any less than they were.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
But they didn't have a cheim Olaijuan and Clyde Dretzler
come on now, right, all right, I answered my own question.
You really helped, That's how I look at it. Both
were in attendance last night, Clyde and Dream.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yeah, and Clyde made it very clear that if they
did win, he wasn't letting anybody in a suit or
anybody else keep him from getting on that floor. All right,
we wrap up the four o'clock hour next here on
the A team. It's Sports Talk seven ninety the AE
on Sports Talk seven night. It is the eighteen Sports

(01:51:15):
Talk seven ninety. Are you familiar with the Florida Beat
reporter who likes to show emotion the student reporter.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
No, Talia Baya?

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
Yes, well that was not much information. Yes, I'm familiar
with her. Did you see what people were.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
I followed it the very first time. It happened when
she was standing and he was seated. She was conducting
an in a locker room interview with one of the Gators,
Bennett Anderson, and then she clearly was aware of how
it was received on social media, and then subsequently interviewed
him more as the run continued to the title game

(01:51:56):
and made note of, oh, this time I'm standing up
so Da and this time I really didn't do much
more than that. Following along with this parade, what have
I missed?

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Well, people were making jokes about her not being able
to cheer in the press box, but then she of
course posted something this morning into video and the caption reads,
no cheering in the press box, but level one million
difficulty because the team you've been covering all year just

(01:52:29):
won the Natty. I here's the deal. If you're a
student reporter or really honestly at this point, like you
watch SportsCenter. Michelle Beadle was the first person I really
remember kind of doing this on a national scale. I'm
a basht Spurs fan. She didn't mind letting anybody know
about it on ESPN. Who's in bed with the NBA

(01:52:53):
billion dollar TV contract all that stuff, And she's hosting
the studio show and she's there at the NBA Finals
rooting for the Spurs.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Things have changed and the jobs are different. I mean,
you're pointing out, Michelle Beadle, keep going, You're not going
to run out of people that I wanted to go
far enough back, right, but in that role, whether you're
the host or the analyst. An analyst example would be
Stephen A.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Smith. I believe he likes the Knicks, but I'm not sure.
Bill Simmons likes the Celtics. And he's even older than
Michelle Beadle.

Speaker 5 (01:53:21):
Right interactually where he was and cheering unabashedly for the Celtics.
By the way, I hate to say it, but the
HBO series with Celtics City, I believe is what it's
called that he is a big part of.

Speaker 4 (01:53:34):
It's pretty interesting entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
But what I'm saying is the press box and the
host chair or analyst chair on a talk show not
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
And she was sitting basically courtside last night. She was
not in the press box, right. She put that in quotations.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
Right, because she's being real. This is a press box
for all intents and purposes, because you're covering the game
in a media scene.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
What about this?

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
My wife and I be credentialed members of the media
for WrestleMania, you know, a scripted act that does involve athletics.
Will you be seated close enough to be hit with
any oil? No, because we're gonna be We're gonna be
in the press box. But I've been to a WrestleMania
in a press box when, for example, it was in
Dallas Cody Rhoades made his return to the company. There

(01:54:22):
were people in that press box marking out because they
were so like it was just they weren't expecting it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
It was a surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
And I like, there's been times where you and I
have been in the press box at NRG Stadium and
the person on the loudspeakers had to come over and
say once again or reminder there's no cheering in the
press box.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
Yeah, things have also changed in what the press box
is made of. Now we have a totally different era
of media coverage with the onset of podcasts and self
employed people who cover the games and teams. It's there's
just more people that think differently, and the more it's
been allowed, it's obviously he changed the landscape. But white
teams may feel a certain way, the leagues may feel

(01:55:03):
a certain way, but they're also not so taken aback
by it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Here's what I don't like. Here's what I think is disingenuous.
And this is of course coming from somebody who will
tell anybody that'll listen. I am a fan that happens
to have a microphone on a talk show. I'd make
no bones about it. I'm not a journalist. I don't
want to be a journalist. And that's where you and
I probably differ a lot in one way of many.

(01:55:30):
But what I'm saying is like, what do a lot
of people do this job for. What are they doing
when they're growing up? Are they not watching sports?

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
Right? Totally? They don't have and they don't rooting interests.
They hate sports, and then they up, and they definitely
did grow up rooting for any teams. Jeff passing like he.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
But you see what I'm saying. He tries to like
convey himself as this serious, and he does. He breaks stories.
He is in a many senses, he is a serious journalist.
But don't act like you're not a Key's fan. I've
seen it. I seen it with my own two eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
Wex.

Speaker 5 (01:56:04):
Why isn't he a Cleveland fan? I don't know that's
where he was born? Well, the commissioner he did. I
know you'll find this as this will probably floor you,
might fall out of your chair. He studied at the
Communications school on campus at Syracuse.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
Oh no, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
You mean the same place that gave us Bob Costas
produced lat Weasels.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
Send any name out there. The likelihood they went to
Syracuse is pretty high. I love me some Kevin Cooper,
I love me some Charlie Palillo. Those are two guys
that are also a product of that program. But come on, man,
why is it always the same deal.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
With a lot of these products of that school.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Because they're molding people to be jerks. Hey be a
little smarmy, undersized.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
Shirk our jerks no, no, no, I'm saying, well, give
me some other ones from Missouri. Oh well, I was
I thought you were just going to talk about Syracuse
the other schools.

Speaker 10 (01:57:06):
Out there that are completely worse than Syracuse in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
At producing jerks and media. Yes, so so Miszoo is
at the top of your list.

Speaker 10 (01:57:14):
Made any single person that has that hashtag in their
bio automatically you know that they are going to be
pretentious and coming after you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
So Cole is not down with my guest for Friday's pregame,
Ben dou Bo's. I love Ben. Ben will mix it up.
But like what I'm saying is, you can't sit there
and say no cheering in the press box, even going
back to the traditional sense, like let's take it before
Bill Simmons, I don't know, name me a famous like
who's the idiot with the perm that covers Boston. Yeah,

(01:57:45):
that guy is absolutely and unabashed at Homer for Boston Sports.
Doesn't even particularly try to hide it. But he did
it under the guys that he's this journalist, this, you
know this, this newspaper writer.

Speaker 5 (01:57:59):
Through this on especially and talk your way through this.
Don't you recognize that each of these people specific to
their job are the same in every city. Because what
you're describing about Dan Shaughnessy is exactly what you often
describe about Bill Plashky.

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
But it goes with la. I've been covering this team
for this paper for forty years.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
As get Baylis in Dallas, it's it's not really for
HUV what.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
You do when you're there. They know more about their
team than you. They probably think pretty highly of those
particular teams because of what they've done, especially Shaughnessy. Oh,
this team, this team in this city, they never win
until they win everything for fifteen years in every sport.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
You know what I say, we're better than you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
You know what I like is when is when the
real and more of the new generation jerks like went
by the wayside and you don't hear from them anymore.
Like the Ethan Sherwood Strausses of the world, there is
no greater representation of the smarmy, arrogant, condescending Bay Area
media that thought they somehow can contributed to the Warriors

(01:59:01):
championship run. Then that I can't even say what I
want to say about him. I once wrote an elevator
with him at Toyota Center. Longest ten seconds of my.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
Life in silence. Yes, that was tough.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
It was for me. Dan Shaughnessy, he has a man perm,
you know that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
Right'll be blessed with the greatest hair.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
That's okay, He'll be fine, tell me about it. We
will hit football at five next. Couple of very important
ticket giveaway announcements also to be made, and we're about
fifteen minutes out from hearing from Astro's second baseman, Brendan
Rodgers here on the eight team.

Speaker 7 (01:59:42):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eight team.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
A Hey, real quick, wex what do you uh? What
do you refer to our show as sometimes odd, disjointed
musically challenged? I don't know what that's so mean?

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
He had he had a rough outing to start the
five o'clock hour. Cole, do you want to play the
intro over and started again?

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
I'm just kidding. No, Uh, how do you know it
wasn't a technical issue.

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
There's some grimlins in there. Do you think they're the
same grimlins that were in Alex Bregman's elbow.

Speaker 5 (02:00:31):
They're they're definitely here permanently. My favorite is when the
board monitor right now.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
They do, and they're the same ones that sometimes decide, no,
you're not hosting a segment of radio because I'm crashing
the whole.

Speaker 4 (02:00:41):
Board only during our show. Correct, So Matt Thomas stops
sending me texts like that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
Let's let's review what you sometimes refer to the show
as when I start talking about various front running T
shirt teams and other cities.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
Oh okay, okay, it's football. So where are you going? Well,
obviously you should know you came up with it the moniker.

Speaker 5 (02:01:04):
We are your Oh okay, we are your Southwest home,
deep southwest home for Dallas Cowboys football.

Speaker 4 (02:01:11):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
Let's go over to the Dallas Morning News, where the
headline reads why Emmitt Smith is quote sick of hearing
about the Dallas Cowboys ongoing title drought. Now I only
bring this up because the quotes are just so funny
in light of what just happened a few weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
I'll say, so, what did Brian Cashman have to say?
Do it again? So what did Brian Cashman have to say?
He titled rout go somewhere else. We are your southwest
home for New York Yankees Baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Okay, now tell me ask me about what Genie Buss
said or Rob Low, their general manager.

Speaker 5 (02:01:51):
Genie Buss said, is that she sleeps in different beds
than Jay Moore? Does she different parts of the house?
Even when did you discover this? Does she make give
an innew about this?

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Years ago? Years ago? It's been out there for a while.
I thought they hadn't even been together. That I mean,
I know they're married now. The slam Man Jay Moore
no longer with Nicky Cox.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Instead, he's with the ex girlfriend of fill up Lakers
coach Phil Jackson.

Speaker 5 (02:02:19):
That's still, like, not the number one way to recognize
Jeanie Buss.

Speaker 4 (02:02:24):
It's fun and all, but it is the number one
way to recognize Jay Moore when you call him the
slam Man and you say it like this, I mean,
I guess I just apologize to our listeners that we
have Frank Talliando sitting here and we didn't have a
roam off. Yeah, that's on you. I'm not gonna have
a trump off with a guy who actually does a
good impression of him unlike me.

Speaker 5 (02:02:45):
All Right, we'll get through all this extremely important off
the field old time Dallas cowboy talk.

Speaker 4 (02:02:50):
Emmitt Smith called out rival fans. This is what's so
funny about Phils fans, Giants fans, and Eagles. Let's stick
to the Eagles because they're the ones that are important
in this case, got a champion. He called out. Here
you go.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
He called out rival fans for nitpicking, particularly Eagles supporters,
for nitpicking and making fun of the Cowboys. Although the
Eagles have found Super Bowl success in recent years, and
by the way, Chris Amaya, the author of this article,
you don't say they've found super Bowl success in recent years.

(02:03:24):
They just won the Super Bowl. You're making it sound
like it happened three or four years ago. Smith doesn't
let their fans forget that they still haven't caught up
to Dallas's five championship rings. This is the quote that
part bugs me. It bugs me because in my heart,
I truly believe our organization should be contending for an
NFC championship game and even a Super Bowl at least

(02:03:46):
once or twice every decade, because every team recycles every decade.
For us not to be there over the last thirty
years is a crying shame. Well, I got news for you,
Dallas Cowboys running back in Smith. Every team doesn't recycle
every decade starting with yours. If they did, it wouldn't

(02:04:07):
have been thirty plus years.

Speaker 4 (02:04:09):
And also, what is the he's this article in?

Speaker 3 (02:04:13):
This author is saying he's calling out rival fans for
nitpicking and making fun of them.

Speaker 4 (02:04:19):
Are you serious right now? They mean to me they
made fun of me because my team doesn't win the
Super Bowl? Are you kidding me? This is in the
Dallas Morning News.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
I just I feel sorry for Calvin Watkins, a real,
actual down to earth and good journalist up there who
used to be here, because he's having to surround himself
by people like this.

Speaker 5 (02:04:42):
Oh, this is a radio interview, And what do you
do with radio interviews when you work in the print
media or digital media? You grab snippets of it and
you write a piece about it. We do it all
the time here. Yeah, I mean, Chris is in. But
how you frame it? I'm still trying to figure out
the where where? What is the nitpicking? What is he
saying about the rival fans? Because what I'm reading is

(02:05:03):
it bugs me because in my heart I truly believe
and you read all that stuff a super Bowl once
every twice or choiceaid for us not to be there
over the last thirty years is crying shame.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
Well, that's the part where he's stating the obvious, Right,
we haven't won, Diddy Pooh, Which, by the ways, that's
not nitpicking.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
If Eagles fans are saying that to you either, it's
also stating fast you're.

Speaker 5 (02:05:22):
Saying and that has nothing to do with other teams fans. Right,
Where is the part of what he said about other
teams fans? And now, maybe Chris did the radio station
a solid by encouraging you to actually listen to the
interview and there's a link to it there because he
didn't really get into what's there. He's got me hooked
because I can't figure out what it is. You know,

(02:05:42):
these fans nitpicking about who are these people? You're not nitpicker. Hey,
you have it won in thirty years. You're not nitpicking.
You're just telling them the truth. That's if they had
been to the super Bowl three times and loss in
the last thirty years, clearly the Cowboys would be a
very good outfit. If they've been to the super Bowl
three times, Well, they haven't been to the super Bowl anytime.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Look, Rockets fans, this is why It kills me that
they'd lost in twenty eighteen, because they haven't done anything
since the Dallas Cowboys did same year. My favorite part
of this article, though, before we move on mercifully for
your sake, the picture of Emmitt Smith is him on
the sidelines in Arlington chatting it up with former New

(02:06:23):
Jersey governor.

Speaker 4 (02:06:24):
You know which one it was?

Speaker 5 (02:06:25):
I mean, looking at him, I couldn't recognize him because
it's a side profile.

Speaker 4 (02:06:29):
Come on, dude, from the side, I really didn't know
who it was.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
There's a caption there, so it's very easy to know
who it was because they wrote his name there.

Speaker 4 (02:06:36):
You didn't know who it was even from the side.

Speaker 5 (02:06:39):
Well, I've seen a picture of Emmitt Smith on the
Emitt Smith on the sideline talking to someone who's in
a jacket and nice shirt. I'm expecting that to be
a football executive.

Speaker 4 (02:06:50):
An NFL executive is some sort it maybe even a reporter.
And I, no, I don't recognize a STI it's not
it's the king of the buffet line, Chris Christy, he
ate after that conversation.

Speaker 5 (02:07:01):
At the end of twenty twenty three, was Chris Christie
a lot less obese than he was.

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
I don't think he's ever been less obese than him.
He really, Oh for sure, he's lost a lot of weight.

Speaker 5 (02:07:13):
I don't know where we are with him today, and
I don't know where we were with him in twenty
twenty three when this picture was taken at the end
of the year.

Speaker 4 (02:07:20):
I'm not I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:07:20):
I was going to ask at what stage of his
weight being or small was he at this camp, because
that's why I could not tell who it was.

Speaker 4 (02:07:27):
I immediately knew who it was, But that's because I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:07:29):
Aware of kidding. Hey, hey, easy, what does Chris Christy
do right now? I actually don't know. Oh I'm amazed.
I don't know what he does. How do you not
know that goes the Golden Corral? I mean, we got
a couple of moms at home. If you want to
take a minute, you can come back before the segment
is just walk down the hall and see what they're
talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:07:47):
I'm sure he's come up recently. I don't think he
has no No, so you know what we actually haven't
done in a long time. What I'm so cool.

Speaker 8 (02:07:59):
In my vest?

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
A room full of scouts got the forty Yeah, if
you're passes. Hell, if you'll think you be off picks
for your age, you got.

Speaker 8 (02:08:08):
Us in the wind the league.

Speaker 4 (02:08:20):
How many times is this gonna get played when we
get to draft time late on getting this into the rotation.

Speaker 5 (02:08:26):
We're only two weeks and two days from the first
round of the NFL Draft, and we have barely jumped
in head first on what the Texans will be up
to that very first night of the draft. Still holding
on to number twenty five. You better believe I want
to mock right now the latest and greatest from once
Todd mcshay's foe, Melchiper junior with the twenty fifth pick

(02:08:51):
in the draft.

Speaker 4 (02:08:51):
Todd, Todd, Todd, he did do that. Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:08:56):
The Houston Texans do what they've done this entire off season.
They add to the competition on their offensive line. They
do not draft Calvin Banks. Kelvin Banks is already off
the board. Kelvin Banks from the University of Texas goes
number eighteen. They obviously don't take Missouri School of Journalism

(02:09:18):
tackle Alfred Membo. They don't take the young man from LSU.
The Patriots do at number four, Will Campbell, but the
fifth offensive line off the board in the opening round
to the Texans. Just after interior offensive lineman Gray Zabel

(02:09:39):
goes to the Chargers, the Houston Texans are set to
line up Josh Connolly Jor Oregon offensive tackle good at
number twenty five. According Samel Kuiper Junior's latest mock, I
think this one is a possibility, to be correct.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
I'm not over the top.

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
Enthused because I think it might work out a little differently,
but this if the draft lays out the way he
has it over the first twenty four picks, Donovan Jackson
went right before him at twenty four to the Vikings,
interior offensive lineman from Ohio State. I think that is
that's a really good guess on what the Texans might do.

(02:10:23):
I don't know if it's the best player for them.
I do think he's probably a good NFL pro. I
think there's a chance he's really good and obviously at tackle,
that would be a really good player to add to
the team for the next ten years plus. Just not
one hundred percent, but that one actually makes a lot
of sense with how I think the draft would play out.
Was Josh Shimmons still on the board, Yes, yeah, that's

(02:10:47):
I think that's too much of a Nick Cassario staple.
He's got Simmons going to the Chiefs at thirty one,
which obviously means he'll be great, but his injury history
has to be a concern, especially when you shouldn't be
doing this. But the Texans set themselves up to where
they have to do this. If they're drafting an offensive

(02:11:08):
lineman in the first round, he's playing, He's playing day one,
He's on the field day one, He's on the field
every day in his tire Texans career, or you royally
screwed up. I think simmons health will have him ready
by then, and he should, but he also will have
missed a lot of time and will be coming off
a significant injury. We're talking about something totally different. Next,
we're talking to Brendan Rodgers of the Houston Astros.

Speaker 4 (02:11:30):
When we come back.

Speaker 7 (02:11:36):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
It is the A team Sports Talks seven ninety as
we get ready for the second game of this three
game set between the Astros and the Seattle Mariners. Tonight,
Astros trailed, then they got the lead back, then they
gave it away, and uh, I can't believe by the
way that this late in the game. I guess it's
not that late that this is their first division game

(02:12:10):
that they just played.

Speaker 4 (02:12:12):
Let's surf, only their fourth series, I know, but I
just thought by now they would have played one.

Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
Well, this is it first inside the division, all fifty
two division games.

Speaker 4 (02:12:22):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
Thirteen games against each of the other four teams, so
one hundred and ten non division games.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
I mean, did it used to be when they played
everybody like nineteen times a year or whatever. I'm not
doing that. Answer your own, Ques, I don't want to.
You're the math guys.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
Seventy six games.

Speaker 5 (02:12:35):
That's a big difference, six games taken away from each
of the four teams.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
It is the same amount versus each team right back
in the day, no matter what, and now.

Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
It has to be right. I'm not one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
I think there may have been some teams you saw
eighteen and not nineteen times, but it was very close.

Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
I sometimes you don't even play all one hundred and
sixty two games.

Speaker 5 (02:12:53):
Yeah, last year the Astros managed to not get in
that final game.

Speaker 4 (02:12:55):
They did make a roster move.

Speaker 9 (02:12:57):
Today.

Speaker 5 (02:12:57):
We knew what was coming because of what happened yesterday
with Spencer Again, he's obviously going to miss his next
start and each of the starts that falls within the
fifteen day il window, but many more after that. This
is a right thumb fracture, that's his pitching hand. So
in addition to not being able to pitch because of
the actual injury, he's not going to be able to

(02:13:18):
use his arm stay ready, keep his you know, being
stretched out like he currently is. So in addition to
the injury itself, he's going to need time to get
stretched out again. Luis contrast, because of this injury, is
allowed to be the corresponding movee. He comes back onto
the roster. He had just been sent down for Logan

(02:13:38):
Van Why who did not pitch in last night's game.
But you're allowed to pull somebody back in that situation.
So they have a full complement of relievers, and technically
they'll have one extra reliever because they only have four
starters currently on the roster. Unless we'll see if they
even make that announcement yet, I don't think they will.
They've already decided and have told Ryan Gusto that he

(02:14:01):
is now in the rotation rather than being the long man.
I think Golton Gordon is really the only other option
based on you know, the roster, the forty man and
where his turn might pop up. Probably one of those
two guys takes the initial start and hopefully all of
the starts if they pitch well enough for the no
longer available Spencer Arraghetti. Brendan Rodgers, added to the Astros

(02:14:23):
during the spring, was with the Rockies for years. When
a gold Glove a couple of seasons ago tailed off.
Offensively has extreme really good in Colorado, not very good
anywhere else. Offensive splits hoping to shake free from that.
Gotten hits in eight of his twenty four at bats
so far as an Astro hits in each of his
last handful of star Tech. The Astros are four and

(02:14:43):
four when he starts or plays there over when he doesn't,
heading into tonight at four and seven. He made a
visit earlier today on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross
and the conversation. We wanted to give you a little
bit of If you want the conversation in it's entirety,
you can always hit up Sportstock seven ninety dot com
or the iHeartRadio app, which of course is number one

(02:15:04):
on your presets, and you can find that podcast from
their program. The conversation we'll deliver for you here begins
with a question for Brendan about if there were swing
approach changes heading into this season.

Speaker 21 (02:15:17):
I had a last year, and I would say even
the previous year twenty three, I had a pretty high
ground ball percentage, and you know, obviously you don't really
want to hit ground balls at course fields. So I
was kind of in a little weird place. You know,
I was hitting the ball hard, you know, get catching barrels,
but obviously they weren't coming off my bat at you know,

(02:15:38):
maybe the right launch angle that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:40):
I was kind of looking for.

Speaker 21 (02:15:41):
So I kind of went into the off season really
focusing on, you know, trying not lifting the ball, but
you know, catching.

Speaker 9 (02:15:48):
The ball at a at a better angle.

Speaker 21 (02:15:50):
And I've kind of switched some things up with the
bat I've been swinging. I've also widened my fans a
little bit, and I've always kind of had my hand
in my stants pretty high up, kind of towards my
towards my right ear and kind of just waving them around,
not really not really knowing towards the last two years,

(02:16:12):
really knowing where my barrel was going going in and
out of the zone, and uh, one of the first
things the hitting coaches, all the you know, all the
coordinators and the biomechanics guys and the big league coaches
over here were one of the first things they said
was maybe maybe just widening up the stands a little bit,
lay the bat rest the bout on your shoulder and

(02:16:35):
kind of preset it in a in a launch position
that you know, I could repeat consistently.

Speaker 9 (02:16:41):
And uh, you know, we really.

Speaker 21 (02:16:43):
Grinded that out in spring training, had some had some
success in spring training, you know, was hitting the ball hard.
You know, I really struggled with sinkers last year, right
handed sinkers, and being able to put those balls in
the air in spring training was was a huge, a huge.

Speaker 9 (02:16:58):
Thing for me. Not I don't I can't remember the
last time.

Speaker 21 (02:17:01):
I pulled a right handed you know thinker, you know,
ninety four, ninety five, ninety six full side in the air.

Speaker 9 (02:17:08):
And I did that, did that a couple of times
in the spring.

Speaker 21 (02:17:10):
So it was a it was a really good feeling,
you know to see the you know, the hard work
and the stuff we've been doing in the cage, you know,
correlate to the end game stuff. So really just been
trying to tweak minor things in the cage, you know,
throughout spring and.

Speaker 9 (02:17:25):
You know now now the season's obviously started, and really.

Speaker 21 (02:17:28):
Just trying to hone in on what I'm trying to
accomplish and obviously my approach and I think, you know,
we've we're onto something and it's been a it's been
a really good, really good change so far.

Speaker 12 (02:17:39):
Brendan Rodgers with us here on a Sports Talk seven Hoey,
I'm glad you brought that up because Brittany, we deal
with a lot of the fans and you know, the
Bats have been struggling, so the first thing fans like
to go to is fire the hitting coaches.

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
So, uh, I just for you, uh what is has it?

Speaker 9 (02:17:53):
As it?

Speaker 12 (02:17:53):
It sounds like it's been a pretty positive experience with
you working with Snicker and Centron and the rest of
the staff.

Speaker 3 (02:18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (02:18:00):
I mean I have, you know, you know, nothing but
respect for these guys. They you know, they really dialed into,
you know, the way my body was moving and they
basically broke down and spring training why you know, why
the ground ball rate was so high and what what
I was doing at certain parts of my swing that
were maybe causing you know, maybe a little little drifting

(02:18:23):
into my front leg, which is causing the bat, the
barrel and my hands to come in at a steeper angle,
which you know, obviously I'm hitting the ball. I was
hitting the ball hard, you know, just really couldn't get
over that, you know, that top spin kind of hook
hooked swing, and now really just working on direction and uh.

Speaker 9 (02:18:42):
Keeping the swing short and simple.

Speaker 21 (02:18:43):
You know, I always thought I had a pretty simple,
simple approach and simple swing, but you know, sometimes it
did get big certain situations. But I'm really just trying
to focus on being short, compact, you know, using the
whole field, saying the middle, using you know, obviously different pictures.
You have to have different you know, directional thoughts and

(02:19:06):
you know where you want to hit the ball. But
but yeah, I think the biggest thing for me right
now is staying short and compact, being staying within myself
and you know, keep in that direction you know, usually
mostly to center to right center, and allowing the barrel
to you know, adjust its way through the zone if
you know, if I get a heater, you know, on
the inner half of the plate.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
So yeah, not much history with Rogers against Luis Castillo,
today's starting pitcher for the Mariners to put on display
all that he just talked about. He's never faced him before?
Did hear from a Joe's spot earlier? Cam Smith, who
quite obviously has not faced him before, will be in
the lineup today. Rogers probably also knew if he was

(02:19:51):
no longer going to be in Colorado, regardless of if
he ended up in Houston or elsewhere, he would have
to do some things to I don't know if correct
is the right word, or certainly tweak what he'd been
doing at the plate. You know, one of those reasons
clearly because of what the results were when he wasn't
playing at Coors Field and when he was playing in
everybody else's ballpark all those years there he spent. He

(02:20:13):
was an everyday guy, and yet his numbers were really
good there and just not very good anywhere else did.
He wasn't an incredible offensively to begin with, and ops
in the low seven hundreds three consecutive years. I think
the Astros were hoping his swing would be conducive to
you know, hitting the ball in the air, and with

(02:20:33):
he does have better than average power, he has to translate, though,
and you're not playing all those games there. I don't
like everyone just looking at say Esoch Perettis and say, oh,
the Astros wanted him because he's gonna get to play
any one times a minute may Park or seventy six
times a minute made Park. If you can hit, you
can hit, and he's gonna AESOC Perettis is not going
to turn into some super productive hitter. And it's not

(02:20:55):
I'm not just saying that because of the first eleven
games and home run number one still hasn't happened. It
hadn't happened for anybody on the team except for four guys.
They've hardly hit any home runs as a team, and
Rogers has been a plus offensively in the games he's
been out there for, especially after the opening series. He
probably has to be in there even more until he

(02:21:16):
isn't hitting because the everyday guys aren't hitting. Jordon is
still not hitting. Yiner has been a disaster offensively. Christian
Walker loves striking out all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (02:21:26):
Not a part of a hero.

Speaker 5 (02:21:28):
He drove in two runs with a swing thanks to
an error, but his strikeout rate is through the roof
compared to his pre Astros numbers. Again, there's no good
to balance out the bad, because that's all we have
right now. But it can't continue like this. This team
is not going to have a lot of offensive success

(02:21:50):
if too many of their middle of the order hitters.
That's your three, four, five most of the season, Alvarez,
Walker and Daz they've all been terrible to speak for
the eleven games they've been out there for. Not a
recipe for offensive success. A few items to revisit, others
that we have not yet gotten to that comes your
way next in case you missed it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
The Age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:22:19):
As we get to in case you missed it here
halfway through the final hour of the program, a quick note.
Gonna do things a little bit differently next segment with
our ticket giveaway. We're actually going to get you registered
to win tickets. We'll have the giveaway at the end
of the week to go see Kendrick Lamar the Grand
National Tour, Crendrick Lamar and Sizza.

Speaker 4 (02:22:42):
They're playing at Energy Stadium. It's April twenty third.

Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
We're going to tell you all about that when we
get to our final segment, So be listening in for
how you can enter the contest. To win those tickets
when we come back from In case you missed it,
but what we need.

Speaker 4 (02:22:59):
To get into today, guys.

Speaker 10 (02:23:01):
Did you ever think of what was gonna be the
most embarrassing way for a player to end up missing
a game this year?

Speaker 5 (02:23:11):
Sneezing, showering, slipping in the shower. Freddy Freeman did that.
He's on the aisl slipped in the shower.

Speaker 4 (02:23:17):
Maybe it was caused by a sneeze. How about eating
chicken wings?

Speaker 5 (02:23:21):
I mean, gosh, William's actually painful. If there's some sort
of choking hazard.

Speaker 4 (02:23:25):
No, it wasn't choking hazard.

Speaker 10 (02:23:27):
I mean, while the Yankees are choking away their season
without having Garrett call on the mound and with Letting
wants to walk on over to Queens.

Speaker 4 (02:23:33):
But still good.

Speaker 10 (02:23:35):
A Dolinger is out of the lineup today and potentially
tomorrow after having.

Speaker 4 (02:23:39):
Food poisoning in Detroit.

Speaker 10 (02:23:42):
Yeah, Detroit is doing the Lord's work right now, making
sure the Yankees continue to lose games, underachieve and now
loads to expectations that many people had after winning the
Ale Pennant last year. He is not gonna be available
until more than likely Friday. He is expected to be
held out of tomorrow's game as well for Tigers against Tigers.

Speaker 4 (02:24:01):
Hey Clinton, Yeah, ask me what I want to eat?
What do you want to eat? I don't know, man,
it tastes like maybe we should go get some wings.
How do you think? Man? What time is it? Oh? Sweet,
it's four twenty in the afternoon. Brother, let's do it.
He doesn't talk like that, He just looks like that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:19):
Cody Bellinger out of Yankees lineup with food poisoning?

Speaker 4 (02:24:22):
All I need or some tasty ways.

Speaker 5 (02:24:25):
After eating bad wings. By the way, he suspected. I
don't want to give the wings a bad name yet. Yeah,
just suspect suspicion.

Speaker 10 (02:24:35):
I think it's actually good wings though, because they're poisoning
the Yankees, which is a.

Speaker 3 (02:24:39):
Good can I just as it pertains to athletes getting
food poisoning and misnaming situations. Why is it still called
the flu game for MJ when he had food poisoning
and it wasn't the flu?

Speaker 4 (02:24:52):
Is it because the stomach flu? Who who said he
had the flu? And who says it's food poisoning?

Speaker 3 (02:24:57):
Well, he says it's food poisoning in the last dance
when he said I ate it, I ate the whole thing.
I ate the pizza, and everyone else said it was
the flu game.

Speaker 5 (02:25:07):
Well, you can't go back and change it. It doesn't
really matter what he says in the last dance.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
The last dance was was put in front of us
in twenty twenty. Uh huh, and the game was in
nineteen ninety eight seven, so it was called the flu game,
right then.

Speaker 5 (02:25:22):
His shoes are called the Flu game shoes, right, So
twenty plus years later they have to be black with
the red trend. I don't know what you're talking about
flu game. I've never heard of it. That was the
food poisoning game. You can't go and change it now.

Speaker 4 (02:25:34):
I ate the pizza. It's one of my favorite last
dance lines. What about all the stuff with Isaiah is
just the turning your head and laught. I certainly had
all the qualifications, but I didn't make the team.

Speaker 5 (02:25:49):
That's because you were a jerk and you didn't shake
his hand. I'll get you an update on Yankees baseball today.
They had one of the early starts. They have yet
to score. The game's already over five nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:26:00):
They're not going to score. Then that's how that works.
It's called a final tark schoobl had a very good
start for the first time this year. Very good start.

Speaker 5 (02:26:10):
Other news around baseball, a bunch of other games underway.
Nobody scored in The Guardian's Chicago White Sox game the
Astros game this evening.

Speaker 4 (02:26:18):
We're in the bottom of the ninth. By that way,
I know nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:26:20):
Nothing will feature a lineup for the Mariners. By the way,
Victor Robliss, who's been very good against the Astros, he
made an amazing play diving into the net in right
field before this series and is out six weeks because
of it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:38):
He made the play. Potentially, if he needs surgery, he's
out for the year. That is enormous.

Speaker 5 (02:26:44):
But one of the two big hitters yesterday, Dylan Moore,
who had the single in front of Ryan Bliss, He's
bumped up in the order. He's batt in the leadoff
Julio Rodriguez now batting second, and the rest of the
lineup looks rather similar.

Speaker 4 (02:26:57):
Two things from that game last night.

Speaker 3 (02:26:59):
One and how irrationally angry do you think I got
when I saw that the Astros were down to nothing
and I went to go see who had hit the
home run and it was their eight hole hitter.

Speaker 5 (02:27:10):
Well they got to the seven and eight Dylan Moore,
Ryan Bliss, Stingle, Homer and then eight nine or excoot
me seven to eight when Taylor Scott was in the
game in front of JP Crawford.

Speaker 4 (02:27:23):
Right, walk walk right. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:27:25):
The other thing is and with I have not looked
at his numbers this season, so I have no idea
how stupid or smart this is going to sound. And
I don't care because I maintain and Cole you can
back me up if you agree. I think Julio Rodriguez
is one of the most overrated players in all of baseball.
Over rated cosagree, and last night was just the latest example.

Speaker 4 (02:27:44):
He's got me out. He's bust this game, wide open strikeout.
He just sucked. He strikes out a lot. He sucks.
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:27:51):
I don't know if you guys were watching at the time,
so not sure if you can comment, great defender. I
was shocked Jake Myers did not try to score on
that sinking liner to.

Speaker 4 (02:28:01):
Julio Rodrigaz did' even go.

Speaker 5 (02:28:03):
It was probably correct because Rodriguez did not have to
go to the turf. He did have to lean down,
but he was on a running start headed home. Caught
the ball and came up firing through a bullet to
rally at the plate, and I'm sure Myers would have
been out, but I am surprised he did not try
to score.

Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
It was it would have been risky move, decided not to.
What else do we have?

Speaker 10 (02:28:24):
So Mike Malone was fired today by the Denver Nuggets,
right before the start of the Western Conference playoffs. And
naturally there is a winner in all this. Can any
of you guess who that is other than the Rockets? No,
I can't Las Vegas because if they've already come out
with odds on where Nikola Jokic will play next season. Oh,

(02:28:45):
team number one is naturally the Los Angeles Lakers at
plus five hundred.

Speaker 4 (02:28:49):
Can either you guess who team number two is?

Speaker 5 (02:28:52):
Well, again, all of these are caveated if it's not
the Nuggets.

Speaker 10 (02:28:56):
If it's not the Nuggets, can either of you guess.

Speaker 4 (02:28:57):
Who number two is? It better be the Rockets? Is they're
not even on the list, Well, then that list is dumb.
Who is it? The Heat?

Speaker 10 (02:29:06):
The KK Megabaskets or the KK Jokers overseas.

Speaker 4 (02:29:11):
In Latvia are at plus six.

Speaker 3 (02:29:13):
Hundred on both Listen, I'm telling you and I just
had this conversation with Wex off air. He does not
care that much about playing in the NBA, does it.
He doesn't even care that much about playing basketball. He
just happens to be really good at it, wakes up
every morning and has a triple double before he gets
to the arena. And so, okay, I guess I'll do
this for a while by looking like a completely out

(02:29:34):
of shape loaf.

Speaker 4 (02:29:36):
If he does that, it won't even supprise me a little,
a little bit here a little.

Speaker 5 (02:29:41):
I know Cole doesn't have the reel to reel to
do this, but if you could rewind it one second, Oh,
they don't have the Rockets on there?

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
Well, I don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:29:48):
And then he hears that as some foreign team is
next to the line, he goes with it completely, totally.

Speaker 4 (02:29:53):
Buys into exactly. Listen, now, this guy doesn't want to
play in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (02:29:56):
If he's not going to play for the Rockets, why
even bother with life?

Speaker 4 (02:30:00):
You know where Big Honey's wants to be. How do
you know where Big Honey wants to play? Why are
you calling him that? I could be calling him cookie monster?

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:30:07):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (02:30:08):
By the way he does this, he goes to Basketball
Reference and just starts reading guys non existent, made up nicknames.

Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
He was giving Jamal Murray driving down the lanes, run
two man game with Big Tipper.

Speaker 4 (02:30:19):
Tipper has it nobody calls him that big.

Speaker 10 (02:30:22):
He was flack for looking at Baseball Reference and saying
that Carlos Lee weighed more than Roger Clemens.

Speaker 5 (02:30:27):
Now, I'm going with the AI generated weaight. For Roger
it was two thirty five. I'm not going with the
AI generated weight for Carlos Lee was two seven.

Speaker 3 (02:30:37):
If you went to Baseball Reference right now and under
Carlos Lee's profile, one of his nicknames was Bisquick, I
would not even be a little surprised.

Speaker 4 (02:30:45):
I'm more like el Kebaya will tell you about how
to get registered for those tickets.

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
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Speaker 4 (02:30:54):
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Speaker 4 (02:32:43):
I love it, and that's gonna be a huge show.
Literally huge with an H. Huge with an H. It's
gonna be huge. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:32:52):
By the way, Brad just tweeted in and said he
fixed the Carlos Lee Wikipedia page.

Speaker 5 (02:32:59):
Uh uh, I did, Like I said, I didn't go
to wiki for that information. Wiki also doesn't normally list
players heights and weights. Some yes, most know.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
Well, would you like to know? You want to know
what he fixed quote unquote it with?

Speaker 4 (02:33:15):
What did he add to the page?

Speaker 5 (02:33:17):
Carlos allowed to do so on our friend Wikipedia.

Speaker 3 (02:33:20):
Carlos Noriel Lee born June twentieth, nineteen seventy six and
nicknamed quote el Kebio and el Biskwick.

Speaker 4 (02:33:32):
Is a Panamanian Panamanian former professional baseball left fielder and
first baseman. That's really all that needs to be read me. Yeah,
looking at the edit history, it appears a change was
made on April eighth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
I can't imagine what precipitated that that's me. He should
get the tickets alone just for doing that. If you
go to a I'll tell you what. If you go
to any athletes page that I am on record is
having sports hate for and you change their name to
something that makes me laugh and then send me that proof,

(02:34:13):
I might mess around and give you some rockets, Nuggets tickets.
You never know. I might, I might not, But El
Bisquick is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
I always used to joke that he had a bucket
of pancake batter in his locker in the clubhouse. You
did used to joke about that. I don't remember. M
h okay, I don't think you were on the show
with me. When I would say it, I was not.
You would have laughed. Uh yeah, I was heartily laugh
It's plausible. I didn't really understand that whole disdain. I guess,

(02:34:51):
why what did he do? You give me a hundred
million bucks? Okay, but it was the fact that he
was the guy. But that's not all on him.

Speaker 3 (02:35:00):
I know, it's on the cheap owner that used to
own the Astros. I mean, we want to be champions.
We're not gonna give money to any of our good players.
But we will give a hundred million dollars and a
bucket of pancake batter to Carlos Lee.

Speaker 4 (02:35:15):
Whoa, it's on the field for all one sixty two.
First year, he built like a tank. He was a
good player. I mean, okay, I'm not even joking for
a left fielder. Look who's playing left field? Now, that's
the joke, dude. He's a better player.

Speaker 5 (02:35:35):
I mean, there's no comparison. I'm quite clearly not stating that.

Speaker 4 (02:35:40):
But do you think Cozy al Tuove has ever even
consumed pancakes? Because I don't uh yeah, I'm gonna go
with yes, nothing but like grilled chicken.

Speaker 5 (02:35:48):
And aspiratat pancakes too down the road two hundred days
a year. You don't think he wakes up and says, hey, Mauricio,
let's go get some pancakes. Hey, Mauricio, and Jeremy, let's
go ahead on over to the local dress or pick.

Speaker 4 (02:36:04):
Up some batter. Jeremy Paanya has never eaten anything bad
for him in his life. Ever eats at a local
restaurant chain.

Speaker 3 (02:36:11):
Yeah, well, he doesn't eat pancakes there and definitely doesn't
consume soda like they do.

Speaker 4 (02:36:18):
Have a little not.

Speaker 5 (02:36:20):
I mean, it's been better and it's gotten better. But
they eat snacks and things right there at the ballpark.

Speaker 4 (02:36:26):
I'm sure they do, but not him. Not him. Listen,
is he a ballplayer? I'm adding him to the list. Hey,
Jeremy wants some of this? No, no, not in my diet.
It's the list you weren't even aware of.

Speaker 3 (02:36:35):
Necessarily, it's the So he's on it, and Andre Johnson's
on it, and anybody that I decide I want to add,
I'll add to it. If I looked like this guy,
I would never wear a shirt, no matter the temperature
ever anywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:36:49):
Looks like Joe Spott is coming out of the dug out.
He's asking for time. I'm not sure what I see.
Why Jeremy doesn't have a shirt on. Again, why would
you wear a shirt if you look like that? Well,
you gotta wear your costume to the game. You gotta
put on the jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
I don't why, like because of MLB regulations.

Speaker 4 (02:37:08):
Were going full Savannah Banasaile.

Speaker 5 (02:37:10):
Well, you're talking about Jeremy Payne at the baseball player.
Why would you ever wear a shirt like.

Speaker 4 (02:37:14):
And Andre Johnson.

Speaker 5 (02:37:16):
Yes, and all of his teammates that don't play offensive
line No.

Speaker 4 (02:37:21):
Fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:37:23):
I mean Nikole Jokich needs to keep a shirt on.
I know it's an NBA player, but there are athletes
that don't need to do this. I'm just saying he's
not one of them.

Speaker 9 (02:37:30):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:37:30):
On his ball club, I would say he is a
little unique as a ballplayer. With the group he's with currently,
his fellow twelve other everyday guys.

Speaker 4 (02:37:41):
He probably like suns out, guns out every day. His
abs have abs.

Speaker 3 (02:37:46):
I hate him, Actually you don't, No, I don't, but
I just I'm jealous.

Speaker 5 (02:37:51):
He is in a little bit more hopefully productive position
in tonight's lineup. Behind fromber Valdez back in the five spot.

Speaker 4 (02:38:01):
Keep your shirt on.

Speaker 5 (02:38:01):
From Tuove left, Perettis, Alvarez, Walker Payana in their respective
usual spots. Our guy, Brendan Rodgers, who you heard from earlier,
bats sixth. Yiner is in the lineup. He is doing
the catching. He'll try to get his third hit of
the season. He's batting seventh. Jake Myers is batting ninth,
and camp Smith already told us earlier, or Joe Spott
had told us earlier. Camp Smith would be in the lineup.

(02:38:22):
He's in right field, also looking for his third hit
of the season.

Speaker 4 (02:38:25):
He bets eighth. Who on that field tonight for either
team would be able to shoulder the burden of having
the name el Biskwick bestowed upon them cal Rawley Big Dumper,
But he actually has a very compelling nickname. Compelling is
a subjective. This you're asking what ought to be a
sad means. Who is the fattest guy out there tonight?

(02:38:48):
The third baseman?

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
Oh man, he did? I didn't say slow. He's not
that fat, is he.

Speaker 5 (02:38:57):
I don't think he's in peak condition condition personally speaking,
But what do I know?

Speaker 4 (02:39:03):
I just hope they they even up the series tonight.
That's all I want.

Speaker 5 (02:39:07):
You got a chance to get back home with the
not So Bad Spot. You could win both Roads series
if you win both of the next two games tomorrow
they're playing in the afternoon, So this show won't be
with you.

Speaker 4 (02:39:18):
I'll be with you.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
Tomorrow from ten to two live from the Marquee location
of Big City Wings. Ross and I will be handling
the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. So look forward to
seeing you. A bunch of you guys out there, enjoy
your day tonight and come see us have some lunch
over at Big City Wings tomorrow, but that's it for
the eight team on a Tuesday here on Sports Talk

(02:39:39):
seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:39:41):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety

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