It's Win or Go Home Stros....And That Might NOT Be Enough

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named at him, raised by Earl.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Nolan, Bolted by the magnificent roller coaster ride that is
in Houston sports.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Chill age down for the only home grown afternoon team
is talking your teams.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
A two oh breaking ball that's popped up right on
the infield walker looked like he had trouble seeing it.
Now Correy is racing it and Javier has a drop head.
Kurt scores what nothing A's I think with the tough sky,
the infielders had trouble seeing it, Javier wanted being the

(00:57):
closest to it. It landed right next to him as
he for it, and the A's lead one.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Nothing, and then there were five games remaining for the
Astros to extend their season. Didn't do anything to help
themselves yesterday quite obviously in the game and the bottom
of the first inning began like that, rather unfortunate and
more of that to come, and that they just couldn't
get anything going. That is a sign of the season,
not a sign of how things are going now, but
a sign of the season, and unfortunately it leaves them

(01:24):
still on the outside looking in now, probably looking at Boston,
Cleveland and Detroit and saying, come on, what do you say?
Astros still have to do something on their own, because
if they don't win their games, they are obviously not
going to extend their season. Being that they are on
the outside looking in, being that they do not have

(01:45):
the tiebreaker, they have an opportunity tonight and tomorrow. So
we're going to enjoy these four hours because the next
time we speak with you will be after this series
is concluded and before they make their way to LA
to begin the final series of the regular season. Hopefully
things will be a little bit different from a vibe standpoint,
but a lot of games will be played between now

(02:05):
and then after Thursday's afternoon game and before they get
to the final series of the season. But you know
where things stand right now, so definitely something we will address. Yes,
as MT said, it will take us a while, probably
the first three hours of the show, if we dedicate
an hour apiece to each single to get through some
of the offense that they did have last night. The
offense also a problem over at NRG Stadium for the

(02:28):
Houston Texans. Maybe the numbers are in their favor this
week because one of the worst defenses, one of the
teams allowing the most points per game in the NFL
through three weeks. Well, that's who they're up against this week,
a fellow winless outfit and a fellow member of the
AFC South. The Texans were on the practice field today
for the first time. Some of them tell you about that,

(02:48):
But Texans Titans. I not even going to try to
sell it. I don't know at what point in this
franchise is history it's ever really truly been able to sell. Well,
it's Texans Titans week. Let's go. Because they've never really
fought for much of anything. They've played each other a bunch.
There have been some fun games. One team's been good,

(03:10):
the other's been bad. They've had a lot of Week
seventeen and Week eighteen games, but never really a whole
lot on the line for both teams at the same time.
And the only thing that's on the line for both
teams at the same time on Sunday at noon is
holy cow, it just started and it's already over for
one of the teams that drops to zero and four.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Well that's but see, we expected that of the Tennessee Titans.
We didn't expect. I mean, even in your worst case scenario,
you didn't expect this. For the text, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
The Titans are trying to do what a couple of
other teams have done. Earn the number one pick in
the draft, and then play that quarterback the following year,
and earn it again with that number one pick playing quarterback.
The Texans just got done playing a team that did that,
the Jacksonville Jaguars. It happens, and it's not a bad
thing for that franchise to just go ahead and get
all the experience out of the way, get all the

(04:00):
hard knocks out of the way, all while you're still
landing in tremendously strong draft asset all the way through
the draft. But that's not where the Texans are. The
Texans are extremely, extremely Unlike the other five winless outfits.
They're back to back division champs. They are not starting
a rookie who's completely green on the NFL. They're not

(04:21):
starting a quarterback that wasn't there a year ago. They're
not starting a quarterback that's barely been on the field.
Quite the opposite. And again, it doesn't fall at the
shoulders or feet of CJ. Stroud exclusively far from it.
But there's no reason for this team to have put
themselves in this position by continuing to not make plays
on game day. And that's the story of their season

(04:42):
in a nutshell. Sure, competitive games, you got to watch
till the fourth quarter to see who wins. But ultimately,
now you're getting getting trained to say, oh, the Astros
are down three to nothing, I don't really feel good
about them coming back. Oh the Texans game isn't decided
until the fourth quarter. I don't feel good about them
being the team that will make the play to win
the game, but rather the other team. Three times it's

(05:04):
happened three times.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean as far as the Texans, I unfortunately
have already started doing what I'd never thought I would
be doing, even.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
With college player evaluations.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
No.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Three losses. Right, So you start looking at the schedule
and you start trying to find the next win, and
if you want to say it's this week, that's fine.
But after that, which is what I'm.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Doing, the next win. After the game on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
I'll just run through the list.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
Well, I would look at it. There's one way to
look at it. So they're gonna be one and four
at best when they get to their off week, right, Yes,
they play Baltimore a week from now in Baltimore a
week from Sunday. So they've got twelve games remaining. Five
of those twelve games are against currently undefeated three and
zero football teams. Yeah, it does not include a trip
to Seattle. It does not include the Kansas City Chiefs.

(05:52):
So that's seven of the twelve games against teams maybe
would not have expected a win from before the season.
I'm not sure why that would change now. Well, seven
plus four is eleven, so I've already got them with
eleven losses.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Well, have you included the Colts because they played them twice?

Speaker 6 (06:07):
That's five two of the five games.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
I just put them in their own category because even
it's your best case scenario. And we talked with one
of the people that covers them every day. He felt
the same way. There's no way the Colts. I mean,
they might be the best chance at a different division winner.
They look spectacular through three weeks, and again, I know
a lot of that has to do with who they've played,
but I'm talking about who the Texans have to play.

(06:33):
You always talk about, well, you only plays an underschedule
as easy as it seems. The Patriots schedule appeared at
the outset, and that's why a lot of people thought
they might sneak in some way, shape or form. I mean,
I'm looking at this list and I don't see it, man,
I don't see a lot of the Texans are bad. Well,
and that's who they play. It's because they're bad. Yeah,

(06:55):
well they're not. But see, I'm not willing to say that.
I'm not willing. You can't have the talent and at
times the tenacity that they do on one side of
the football and just be written off as a bad team.
They're a bad offense.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
They can start, they can play better, but I'm not
even There's no way I'm gonna call them not a
bad team. They're a bad football team. They play bad football,
they play losing football. They're a team they don't play.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Losing football on the defensive side of the ball. So
I can't say they're a bad overall team. You can have.
I mean, there have been teams over the years that
had you know, game managers at quarterback. We called them.
I think those days are over, but you know, they
and they road to whatever prominence on the on the
strength of their defense, and honestly, because we are always

(07:40):
hearing about how close they are because it's been you know,
one score games, that kind of thing, the Texans could
be one of those teams right now, very easily, and
you wouldn't be saying, oh, they're they're a great team.
You'd be saying they're being held together by a good
to great defense. And I do feel like the defense
that's where it's at, even though their rankings and all

(08:01):
that kind of stuff would say they're not, you know,
elite like we thought they were going to be. It's
the main reason they've been in these games.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, being in the game it's great, But honestly, and
I'm not saying their defense is the reason they're losing,
that's ridiculous. But what is it that you like about
their defense? The point total has looked good three straight weeks,
and what else. They don't stop the run particularly well.
They've been able to be thrown upon. They are awful
in the red zone. They are awful on third down,

(08:29):
and that's after holding the Jaguars to a four or
fifteen performance this last week. They're not near the top
of the league in anything at this point of the season.
They don't take the ball away. I'm sure they will.
I'm sure those things are coming there. You're right, there's
so much talent there and there's still plays that they're
just missing or what and maybe these miscommunications are to
be believed, and they've now been again blaming it all

(08:52):
on CJ.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Gardner.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Johnson is another thing I will not do. But I
understand some of the things that have happened with this
team and some of the plays, the football plays that
have made look even worse, but just being for real
about this defense. They've been a position to win a game,
they did not do it. You could argue they were
in position to win two games. It's a little bit
harder in the Jacksonville game because they weren't winning at
the time. But if they get the Jaguars off the

(09:15):
field at the end of the game. The latest Texans
turnover isn't the end of the game, but it was
because they gave up the huge play to Thomas and
then they had to give up the touchdown they had.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
It was smart.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
They had to give up the touchdown because they gave
up the big play, so they were on the field
in a tie game and did not do their job.
They're obviously on the field in a game you were
leading against Tampa and did not do their job. You
would not have been in those games had they not
done about three quarters worth of their job. It's all
certainly recognized, but they're just in my opinion, and it's
not just because they're owing three. We have talked about

(09:47):
that a lot, and I hope people do try to
look further than just the obvious. They're just not playing
good football. They could be one and two, they could
be two and one. You could argue they could be
three and oh, it really wouldn't change the football that
they're playing. They're not playing good football.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
We'll put it this way. I don't think anybody right
now is worried about their offense when you're game planning
for the Houston Texans. If you're a defense out there
that's even remotely capable of just playing basic defense and
getting stops when you need to, and even have a
modicum of getting into the backfield, you're going to be
doing just fine against this Texans offense. I do think

(10:21):
that opposing quarterbacks worry about that pass rush. I do
think when healthy. You know, Derek Stingley, I don't know,
you know, questionable, day to day oblique, I don't know what.
I don't look for him to be one hundred percent
if he.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Does play, Yeah, he's definitely not going to be at
one hundred percent. Be shocking to see him on the
practice field this week. Was there today for practice? He
did not practice, so he'll be listed on the injury report.
It doesn't give a game status till Friday. I would
be looking at him to be a game time decision
at this point.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
I think there are enough guys on that side of
the ball for the Texans that opposing quarterbacks, opposing offensive coordinators,
and anybody on that side of the ball coming in
or welcoming them into your place, you have to account for.
Nobody's talking like that about the Texans offense.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
No question of one hundred percent is correct.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
That's what I mean when I say I can't call
them bad, because if you have that kind of talent
on one side of the ball, I can't just call
you a bad football team, even if you're rowing three.
It's hard. Listen, I realize I'm arguing from an uphill
battle here, and far be it from me. The main
thing is the more we talk about the Texans, the
less we have to talk about that other embarrassment that
wears Houston on its gear. Because five games left, all this,

(11:28):
that and the other I don't all day. All last
night did was reaffirm what I've been saying. I don't
want any part of seeing this team in a quote
playoff game. I don't want to see two more games
of this crap that they call an offense, three singles.
Get the bleep out of here, Your seasons on the line.
I mean, it's not I might even have a pride guy.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
I'm just like products, that's why baseball is different.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Well, you can try as hard as you want for
the Astros.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
It's bad this year, yeah, but that's what makes it.
That's why it is what it is. If you have
a talented basket team, you're going to play well. You're talented.
It cannot hide, it cannot be taken away, and certainly
not over a long stretch of time it can in baseball.
I mean, the Mets are probably gonna find their way
into the wild card and they've lost. They've had a
seven game losing streak three different times this year. Tiger's

(12:16):
right never happened before. Tigers are another great example. They
had the best record in the American League extremely recently,
and now they can't do anything right. They put their
ace on the mound yesterday and he personally gave the
game away with a disaster inning, which we'll talk more
about later. The Astros, obviously, it will be a new
game tonight. There'll be a new pitcher on the mound.

(12:38):
They had an opportunity to do something last night that
would have helped them a great deal by winning. Tonight,
they'll try to see if Hunter Brown can help them
do something that will help their cause to get to
the postseason. So we can continue thee do you really
want to see this team in the postseason? And if
you're listening to this show and the voices in this
particular room, you're gonna get two different fifty answers, no

(12:59):
question about it.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Lots to get to today.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
We will take a trip to Nashville to visit on
the Tennessee Titans. Will do that at four fifteen. We've
got our signature segment. I'll come your way at four
thirty two point thirty this hour, fifteen minutes out from
the best of backs here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
All right, let's do this. Let's fight x n AC
here on a Wednesday edition of the eighteen Sports Talk
seven ninety. We'll have the simulcast at the top of
the hour. The way I look at this, only five
more games of misery, and I'm seeing it last night
from like the most tried and trud diehard people on

(13:47):
social media that are just the reality is setting in.
You're even seeing was it? Ah, geez, bow tie guy?
Why am I drawing a blank? Yeah? Ken Rosenthal, I
believe was the one that those Yeah, I believe he
was the one that said this. It makes you if
it is coming to an end, this run, and the

(14:07):
division run is definitely coming to an end. They're not
winning this division.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
So the magic number for the Mariners is one. So
if the Astros win all five remaining games while the
Mariners lose all five remaining games, then you can keep
the division title here in Houston. Every single other scenario
you cannot. And it's listen, it is.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
It's something because it's just been penciled in for so long.
We knew that it was going to come to an
end sooner or later. I think a lot of us
saw last year. But the streak comes to an end? Yeah,
are we?

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I mean I the baseball you've seen this year and
last year definitely suggests the answer is, yes, this is
the end of it. But when late March rolls around
in twenty twenty six and we know what the schedule
is already, so when they play their first game and
Altuve and Alvarez and Correa and Perettas and on and
on and on and painting it, then they're all in

(14:58):
the lineup and they're all healthy, and Hunter Brown's starting,
and we know what the rest of the rotation looks like,
and Josh Hater is healthy and Brian Obray is back, Like,
are we sure that it's over?

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Like that?

Speaker 6 (15:11):
That team is way better on paper then the team
that played the entire year because they were never together.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
You're what's the word, I'm looking for your sample size? No,
you're when you're doing an experiment. It's not the constant,
but it kind of is is the twenty sixteen season,
because we remember, those of us who've been around what
a coming out party twenty fifteen was. But one of

(15:41):
your stars, especially even during that postseason run, if you
want to call it that, because it was a heartbreaking
series against the Royals, was Kolby Rasmus, You know, like
they weren't quite there yet, but you got that taste
for the first time since the early two third of
the mid two thousands, and so you were like, Okay,
Astros baseball, after these hundred lost seasons, feels like it's

(16:02):
back then. Twenty sixteen happened and just nothing went according
to plan. They weren't bad, but they were a lot
like this year. They were mediocre. They were finding ways
to lose one run games to the Rangers. Still, the
Rangers were still your daddy at that point, and it
sucked because you had to hear it all the time,
and believe me, I was. I had people that were
just appalled that I was making JFK references on Twitter

(16:24):
at the time. Hey who is this guy? Oh he's
a radio host in Houston. How unprefect? Yeah whatever. And
then twenty seventeen, I still can't believe looking back, with
what they built and all of the talent, particularly from
the pitching standpoint, you were basically riding the best record

(16:46):
in the American League on the back of Dallas Kichel
until you got Verlander.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
And keep this in mind about those years that go together.
They had those hundred lost seasons. Then they had one
bad season where they lost ninety two games. Then was
twenty fifteen, they made the playoffs. Looked like, okay, something
is brewing here. They're about to be really good. Then
they had two games fewer on the win in their
win calumn. The following year they missed the playoffs. That
next year, the year you're just mentioning twenty seventeen, they

(17:13):
had a bigger win improvement from twenty sixteen to twenty
seventeen than they did that first year they made the playoffs.
From twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen. That's hard, much harder
to do. They took a good team, an eighty four
and seventy eight team team that finished in third place,
the team you thought was going back to the playoffs
two years in a row, and they turned that team
into a one hundred and one win team. The great

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teams that followed a to win improvement, a four win improvement,
they still winning one hundred and six games five years
after it started. What they did from that year to
the other, that's what really was the jump, and then
obviously the Golden Era just never went away. But they
also dropped from one ZHO six to ninety after they
won their most recent World Series. They have not won

(17:57):
more than ninety games. This will be the third consecutive
year they've won the division in back to back years.
They're not gonna win the division this year, but they're
gonna finish second, but with a team that's much closer
to everybody else that's in the playoffs or worse. Last year,
we were looking at them like, there's twelve teams here,
are they the tenth best team the eleventh best team?

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This year, if they make the playoffs, I'm pretty sure
they'll we looked at as the eleventh or twelfth best team,
and they'll probably be seated accordingly this year as a
sixth seed rather than a three seed a year ago.
So that I can't argue with the true Golden Era
of Astros baseball.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
It is over.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah, Can they still win and make the playoffs? Can
magic still happen?

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (18:38):
But this roster is gonna have to go through a major, major,
major overhaul at some point in the near future to
keep them from going from ninety to eighty eight to
eighty six to whatever it is next year.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Yeah, and you see, And that's the reason I brought
all that up is because when you said, when we
get here to late March and it's time to start
playing games for real, and those names on the back
of the are there, everyone's a year older, and a
lot of these guys you just mentioned they were together
this year. I know Alvarez is an outlier because of
the injury, but you got him back and he did

(19:11):
awesome for what individual games? Yeah, he had his individual
statistics were like, wow, you would have loved that prediction
production all season long. It didn't help the team win
all right, Right.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
That was the portion of the season where he was
playing without Perettis. Yeah, and they were playing without perett
He hasn't played Perettis has until these last five games,
four games. He hadn't played any games with Korea. Kray
obviously wouldn't even be here had he not gotten hurt. Like,
it's simple enough in these terms, the three best offensive
astros have been the guys that have missed the most time.

(19:43):
The worst offensive astros have been healthy all season. And
that's what you get when this happens. You know, Christian
Walker and yaner Diez are obviously the biggest whipping boys
for this offense this year, fair or unfair, and they've
been available pretty much every day all season long, a
couple of days off for each of them. You had
a few days where Yer had the he got hit
with his own pitcher's pitch and needed some days off.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
But that's pretty much it.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
And these are your least productive I can't believe he
didn't come through again.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
At some point you start believing it.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
But Paynia miss time significant time, Peretis miss significant time,
and Jordan missed one hundred games and now all the
games he's missing again. I mean one runners on base,
You've still done nothing offensively, but then Jordon Homer's in
two runs scored. Its just never unfolded this year in
that way because they didn't put it all together. And
I would agree expecting something different better next year from Korea,

(20:35):
different or better from Altuve.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Do not expect that.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'll tell you Wayner Well. Walker is a different category
because he's not a part of this. Jose Altuve is
one of the best postseason players ever, saying with Korea
they're part of the Golden Era. You bring him back. Oh,
that's not who they are anymore. Christian Walker. I don't
know how he's gonna have a worst season next year.
And it is much more than just his batting average
is ops. And we can get into this because we

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always end up doing that. But their their issue is
they need the next guys. They they've needed that a
few times. They've needed Jordan's influx of power and just excellence,
obviously Kyle Tucker. And then each year somebody's in the
Rookie of the Year race, some pitcher or Jeremy Paineer
or Luis Garcia or Hunter Brown, and unless that's Zach

(21:21):
Cole or Cam Smith, next year they're they're really going
to be searching for something. And we've already talked about
the likelihood that they're going to be making moves to
figure out where everybody actually goes to play next year
if they're healthy when spring training begins. And then the
pitching staff is a whole, totally different story all on
its own from an injury standpoint. Well, we're not even
there yet. There's five games remaining this season. Yesterday, you

(21:43):
would have liked the Detroit Tigers to get it figured
out and win and push the team that was actually
closest to you keep them with you. But now that
the Guardians won the first game, it doesn't matter at
all who wins today in my opinion. But whoever wins
today between the Guardians and Tigers, you want them to
win again, and then you want them to win again,
and then you want them to win keep on winning,

(22:04):
and hopefully that team is Cleveland, because if Detroit loses
again today and they lose again in the series finale
and then they go to Boston, where those are two
more teams you're trying to catch Boston and Detroit, well,
you're in much better position because clearly they can't both
win during those final three days. Guess what, none of
it matters if you get three singles off of the a's.

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That's what the Astros did last night. The best of
X will travel away from that maybe when we come back.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
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Speaker 7 (22:43):
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Speaker 8 (22:44):
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Speaker 6 (22:47):
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Speaker 7 (23:19):
I don't want to keep picking on him, but if
people keep coming up with graphics and dumb things to
say about Arch Manning, He's gonna keep starring in this
segment each and every week. It is the best of X.
We peruse the social media streets. Now full disclosure. I
first saw this on the Instagram version of CBS Sports
College Football account, but it's on X. You just go

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over to that version of it. It's right there. I
had to scroll back a little bit because this actually
came out around four point thirty yesterday. But notwithstanding all that,
it is absolutely a great candidate because once again information
that's misleading. There's a graphic of what is entitled the
first six college starts for three members of the vaunted

(24:10):
Manning football family.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah all but Gramps. Yeah, Gramps didn't make the list.
Coop doesn't play quarterbacks, so he's out.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
So it's it's of course Arch this year, Eli his
first six college starts at Tennessee and then of course Eli, Wait,
did I see Eli. Already I'm into first.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
First six starts at Ole Miss Briton's first six starts
at Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Yeah. And the numbers, I mean, wow, wex these numbers
are just identical.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah, it's gonna be the same thing over and over
and over again. It's okay if you want to tell
us that you don't care about the games and watching
and enjoying it and tailgating and all the things that
are great about college football, and just be a fool,
just try to be a Wexler disciple and just only
go with the numbers. Numbers don't lie. That's all I
need to prove a point, because that's what everybody keeps doing.
But everything's fine.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
Now.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
You played Sam Houston State, You've played the two teams
you've played since Ohio State. Not to mean any offense
to them, but you get the idea. It doesn't really matter.
There's nothing that I hate more than the trolling that
these actual legitimate sites can't help from doing.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
That's what it is.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
That's all they're doing, and we're falling right into it.
But for a different reason. We're only falling into it,
not to analyze it, not to say, well, he played them,
and he did this, and it's a different era.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
None of that.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
We're just here as one of the most pot like
you could search this, put it in your fire, up
the X platform and use the little search box and
say just type in. I'm only here for the comments.
That's what Best of X is all about. And in
this particular instance, I'm not here for the analysis. I'm
not here for the old pictures of young Peyton and
young Eli with mop top Arch. I'm only here for

(25:58):
the comments.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Well, first of all, before we go any further, it
should be noted that, according to this graphic, Arch blows
them away with total touchdowns. He's got nineteen. They had
thirteen and fourteen, respectively, and his rating is off the charts,
one fifty eight point one.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah, blowing Eli away. I'm sorry you almost maybe do it.
I will not refer to this chart in any way,
shape or form during this segment.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
But you're right, comments like this one are what made
it worth the trip. I don't think Tennessee or All
miss had San Angelo's School for the Blind and Grand
Canyon University on their schedule every year.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know something I haven't done during this entire exercise
of Best of X. How long we've been doing Best
of X?

Speaker 10 (26:43):
What do you think?

Speaker 7 (26:44):
At least decades?

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Okay, several decades, long before the show even existed, we
were doing Best of X off to the side when
social media first was born. I have never followed anybody
strictly because of something we talked about on Best of X,
but I'm going to do that today. Eric Blackerby is
getting a follow from Adam J.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Wexler.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
His comment was, according to researchers at I Test University,
this graphic is extremely misleading and for dialing up something
straight up my Wexler alley hashtag roll time, hashtag braves,
hashtag fins up. Eric's getting a follow from me. I'm

(27:25):
not a Bama fan. I do not like the Braves.
I'm really enjoying the Dolphins winless start. So it's not
for any of those reasons. Eb's getting a follow from
this guy, but he just got one. I Test University
is one hundred percent being stolen from this moment forward
by yours.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
Truly. I have eyes, I watch the game. I'm not blind.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
I don't need any of those anymore. I don't need
to say those anymore. I don't need to utter those
words anymore. I can just say I'm a graduate of
Eye Test University. I Test University and sports go together
tremendously well, and they will from this point forward for me.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Thank you, Eric Dad. No word on whether or not
WEX is going to follow him by the end of
this segment, but maybe this will get it done. Now,
show the teams these three played. If they had a
mix of one championship caliber team Ohio State type and
two to three subpar opponents, then we might have protocol
to believe arch is not adopted.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
That's so mean, it's really good stuff for I'm only
here for the comments the Buckeye nut says, give him
the Heisman now. BTC boomers like Tamu Dad and the
others that actually posted the graphic of who Ole Miss
played and who Tennessee played and just said, come on, man,
I don't think they were playing the same competition. Who

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they all start against?

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Jay Bird.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
I don't think Tennessee or Old Miss had San Angelo's
School for the Blind and Grand Canyon University on their
schedule every year.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
I feel bad for GCU. Now, why would you do? This?
Is one of my favorites, simple and to the point glaze,
get the eye test. You're gonna follow that guy too.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
No, I've already that's the first I've reached the maximum
number of follows from Best of X.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
It's one, oh, man.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
I mean, let's take it much, much, much much further
than that. They just announced one hundred and twenty eight
players that are on the eligible list, the so called
ballot for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Arian Foster
among them. Five other former Texans also on the ballot,

(29:31):
much funnier names than he is. He's a very good
NFL player. And same for Shanelechlers, who's on the list,
and same for Vince Wilfork who's on the list. But
Peyton Manning is he needs a Hall of Fame speech.
He's a Hall of Fame quarterback. He's a Hall of
Fame player. Eli is obviously somebody we've debated, and he's
going through all that now every year with being on
the ballot and being discussed like, let's let's go crazy.

(29:55):
Let's get all the way through his year and a
half or two that's still left at Texas wherever he
gets drafted, how much he plays in the NFL, his
entire NFL career, all the Pro Bowl games, appearances that
are included, all the playoff ups and downs that are included,
all the videos of all of the Mannings, and the
stands watching him play his NFL career, and the family

(30:19):
that he gets to help guide through their early lives,
like his dad and his uncles and his grandfather. Does
anybody think Arch Manning is going to have a career
like either one of the two Mannings he's compared to
in this extremely telling and important graphic.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
No, and I forgot to mention the most important thing
of all with this graphic was accompanied the comment by
CBS Sports College Football. They commented on their own graphic
well the caption oh okay, well, well well, which is
important when you read Eddie's response, I don't think your
media team understands the well well well in today's media culture,

(30:55):
this is hilarious. All right, we will wind down the
two o'clock hour coming up next.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Simon Kay is going to do anything with the fact
that Eli's numbers were also better than Peyton's. I'm just
gonna go right on to the next topic. Well, he's
in the Hall of Fame with two rings. I paid
attention to the numbers only he beat.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Brady in the postseason.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
On The sports Man Sports Got to Love It.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
It is the A Team Sports Socks seven ninety Wednesday
edition of the program. Wex and AC with you as
we get over the hump. Week four already upon us.
In the NFL. It hasn't been fun getting here as
far as the Texans go, but it has been I
would say as far as three weeks starts to the season,

(31:58):
it has been crazy. Just last week alone with all
the walkoffs and just weird stuff that happened, capped by
a really I think entertaining Monday night game NFLS It's
easy to see why it remains king and I don't
think it's going to go away anytime soon. If ever,
it's just the entertainment factor coupled with the demand met

(32:19):
with the lack of supply because of the way the
schedule works out. It's a recipe for success. But the
Texans have had anything but that. They can tell you
they're close, and they probably have alluded to that once
again today in some way, shape or form, even if
those words haven't been used. But I guess the best
thing I could tell you and Wex kind of alluded

(32:42):
to this in the first segment. At least they're playing
the Titans this week, and tell that's words that I
eat on Monday. I'm going with that. It's the best
I can do right now.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, And there's only five other teams you could play
that match your record, and they're getting one of them.
There's five other teams aside to you. Soon is not
one to game. They have been further away from winning
as the weeks have gone by. The Texans have pretty
much been the same. They could have won any of
the three They've all been one score games. They've only
been outscored by thirteen points. Last time the Titans were
on the field, they got run off the field. Inneapolis,

(33:14):
Colts out to a big lead and they crushed them,
and Jay could not stop Jonathan Taylor. He had three touchdowns.
They gave up forty one points. It was a cakewalk.
Their first game of the year might have tipped people
off that Denver is going to take a minute to
recreate their late season magic from last year, because maybe
that's all it was. Denver got out of that game,

(33:35):
allowing just four field goals that day to Tennessee, but
only beat them twenty to twelve and didn't really look
very good doing it. Maybe there was a little bit
of hope that that was a sign of things to
come for Tennessee. It was the opposite for Denver, who
has found a way to lose each of the last
two weeks in very excruciating fashion. For as much hype
and love was given to Denver, and I gave them plenty,

(33:57):
the way that they have lost their last two games
is extremely disheartening for that team, and that they were
in position to win both of those games late, late,
late in those games and did not come away with it.
But looking at the Titans giving up better than thirty
one points per game, they're right there at the bottom
of the standings in that regard. Obviously, cam Ward has
had a host of struggles, both from the protection standpoint.

(34:18):
I don't think Tony Pollard's a bad player to have
with him, and I don't think he's had a bad season,
but he's not, certainly think something that teams are concerned about.
And his overall numbers are a little bit down too
for obvious reasons. Why would you not force cam Ward
into passing, you know, just force him to try to
beat you knowing that you can just stack the box
and see what happens. And internally, well, they obviously recognized

(34:38):
things were going bad enough offensively that the head coach
fired himself. I can't call plays for this team anymore
if we expect to win, so he gave up play
calling duties and has the quarterback coach now handling that.
And I can't wait to see what they unleash on
the Texans basically the same thing they've been doing, I
am sure, but he'll get a different voice, somebody who
sees it a little bit differently, and again doesn't have

(34:59):
the other responsibility of the head coach, so maybe it'll
be something that the Titans are a little bit better at.
They've had problems from a health standpoint on their offensive
line a little bit through the early three games of
the cam Ward era. They do have some players defensively,
but if I'm telling you about how poorly they've played offensively,
I could make it sound much worse talking about their defense.

(35:19):
They're at the bottom of the league in a couple
of rather important categories. One of them's points allowed. It's
a pretty good tell on what your football team can
do defensively. Even though some of those points are impacted
heavily by the offense, whether it's a pick six or
a short field. They just haven't done much of anything
defensively since Week one. And one thing they don't do
and it's irresistible force and what's the other side of it,

(35:42):
immovable objects.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah, Andre and Hogan.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
They have two sacks this year. They have sacked the
quarterback twice in one hundred and eighty minutes of football.
The Texans have allowed eight sacks in their three games.
It's not the worst total in the league, but it's
pretty close to the top. That is something that I
would hope the Texans offensive line, which by the way,
was practicing today without one of their starters for the

(36:06):
time that we were out there. So I can't say
that for one hundred percent certainly unless Demiko is addressed
it already today he's met with the media. Titus Howard
was not at the media portion of viewing of practice
earlier this afternoon.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
That I mean, going into a week where you're desperate
for a win, being both of these teams, but you
had very different.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
If the Titans are playing to win the Texans, I'm
saying I don't know what the Titans are.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
You have very different aspirations coming into this season, and
that's what How bad does this sound to say? Well,
if they really do go record wise the way I
think they're going to, the Texans, start maybe thinking about
fixing this offensive line in the draft, because you're gonna
have some really good dress there.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Start thinking about fixing this offensive line. September twenty fourth,
twenty twenty five. Did Nick Casara just get hired five
minutes ago? Or has this been the thing that he
should have been doing the entire time he's been here,
which is several NFL seasons.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
You guys tell me, I'll go Dabo swingey on you.
We will hear from dbco Ryans on CJ. Gardner Johnson
coming up. We will hear from Brian bogus Sevic on
the Astros. He visited with the station as he does
each every week. We got Chris Gordy coming in in
a half an hour. That's all on the way in
this hour number two here on the A Team.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety two lifelong
Houston sports guys named Adam talking your team's Adam Clinton
and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
A straight up three o'clock Here on the eighteen, it's
Sports Talk seven ninety. It is Space City Home Network
simulcast on the TV side has begun. He's wex, I'm Ac.
We've got Cold Thompson producing. We've got lots of misery
we've been talking about over the first hour or so

(38:03):
of the show. Astros just not really inspiring. Last night
in West Sacramento a must win game. All of them
are basically must win games. This week. You are depending
on some other al or American League brethren, I should
say to help you out, but since they're all playing
each other and presumably beating up on each other, that

(38:24):
was your in. And now after last night's three count
them three singles, wex you just look like you're dealing
with the same thing you've been dealing with offensively for
most of the year. You're getting guys on, they're just
not going to come home more often than not.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
I mean, last night maybe not the case. They didn't
have anybody on for five innings n Row. After the
first couple of hits they got, they were wiped out.
The last couple of innings of Springs, the first couple
of innings from their bullpen, not a very good bullpen,
and they just couldn't even they didn't get anybody on base.
There was nothing cooking for them, and unfortunately they did
not take it vantage of that opportunity early in the
game when they had the bases loaded nobody out. Something

(39:04):
I was talking about with a listener yesterday for a
conversation we had on the show yesterday. Doesn't it seem like,
and I don't know how it measures up against the
other teams that they have so many bats with opportunities
to score that don't amount to anything. I mean, the
simple thing is, well, if you don't get a hit, yes,
but there's more to it. You got three guys on base,
every base is taken. Well, if you hit a fly ball,

(39:25):
one of them might score. If you hit a ground ball,
you might be out, but a run might score. There's
lots of things that are good that can happen. I
also know you can ground into a double play, you
could fly out into a double play, you're right, But
when you strike out and the other team doesn't throw
a wild pitch or have a pass ball, then you're
kind of sunk. And two of the three batters that

(39:45):
came up after the Astros loaded the bases with nobody
out struck out. That Cole struck out immediately, and Mauricio
Dubond struck out to end the inning with two runners on.
Luckily there were only two runners on. At least cam
Smith had a two hundred and eighty five to three
hundred foot fly ball that easily scored the only run
you would end up scoring in that game. It's a

(40:07):
very disappointing inning, but you didn't come away with nothing.
What happened from a nothing standpoint was the entire rest
of their evening's worth of baseball. There weren't any threats.
They didn't put the A's in trouble. They didn't need
any mound visits. They didn't have to figure anything out
because it was one non threatening inning after the next.
There were no home runs hit in the game. The
A's managed to score in half of their innings because

(40:29):
the Astros just kept finding a way to not get
that final pitch. Scoring in the first inning on that
pop up that was not caught on the infield where
Christian Walker obviously lost the ball on the lights, you
could see that during the game, and he said as
much after the game, also said, no excuse, you got
to catch that. He's right, especially when two of your
teammates could have but neither did. I was mentioning also

(40:51):
on social media with somebody last night. I mean, we
all grew up and many of us played baseball growing up.
I did, and it was even me as it might
be for some of you to believe the best player
on your team growing up, what does he probably do?
The best athlete, the best hitter, the best player on
your team, on your baseball team, when you're six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

(41:13):
fifteen years old, what does that player do almost every
single time? Because he's the best player you've got, He's
probably pitching at some point. He's probably one of your pitchers,
if not your best pitcher. He's maybe your best hitter.
He's maybe your best pitcher. He plays shortstop, he also
pitches a lot of these players that pitch in the
major leagues were that guy. Shoho Tani is still that guy.

(41:35):
And yet, oh my god, I know you're on the
field with a glove, but for God's sakes, do not
involve yourself on this defensive play.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
If we can at all, avoid it.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Please get out of the runaway, run away, go away.
Christian Haber, what are you doing. You're way too close
to this. Get out of there. Somebody else can make
the play. Even though you're fifteen feet away. Carlos is
eighty five feet away. Christian Walker can't see it. And
I don't have an answer for what YANNR. Diez was doing,
but for just please do not do not try to

(42:08):
catch a pop up PfP.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
We've watched it.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
I've been to plenty of spring training, and I've been
over to minute May Park then and DIYK and Park now.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
I've watched them take PfP.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
It may happen, but I've never seen PfP, which is
pitcher's fielding practice. I've never seen them practice pop ups
because I guess they just have all decided you can't
catch it. You're too bad at baseball. You can throw
the ball really hard, and you can hit your spots,
you can like the shape of your pitches, but you
cannot catch. You cannot throw. Heck tark school try to

(42:36):
prove that to everybody. Last night, tried to go between
the legs on a throat to first. He got an
air really dumb we've seen fromber Valdez melt down on
plays along in the infield constantly.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
They make airs all the time.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
I get it, but sometimes that's your play that has
to be nobody's anywhere near you, or you can do
the right thing according to baseball unwritten rules, get out
of the way. And I think Carlos would have made
a spectacular catch and we would have kept the run
off the board. But just the way things are going,
that clearly is what consistently happens to this team. It's

(43:10):
just it wasn't and Joe was asked about it after
the game. Is the kind of set the tone for
the game, it felt like, and I think on the
radio side, on the TV side, for the viewers and listeners,
I don't think it did for the baseball team. It's
one nothing after the first inning. Sure you gave a runaway,
you got eight more at bats to beat a team
that's not going anywhere. And that topic we might revisit
when we get to the Golden Era of Astros baseball.

(43:32):
In order for you the Golden era, in order for
you to pile up division championships, well you at least
have to be better than four other teams. We already
know they're not better than one of them and that
will not change next year. Is that number going to
two or three even for the twenty twenty sixth season.
Definitely something to address for this general manager and manager

(43:54):
and owner because the other part of all this, and
I know we wanted to get to Brian bogus Sevic here,
but if the Golden Era is coming to an end,
aren't the off seasons of not redoing your baseball team
also coming to an end? The last eight trade deadlines,
they're always buyers the last eight off seasons. What is

(44:15):
the piece that we need to remain one of the
best teams in baseball? How do we get there? We're
right there for the last three or four years. The
last two years they clearly were trying to build in
the offseason two get there. They did take a step
in this new non Golden Era stage of their team
last year for the first time ever, in advance of

(44:36):
losing Kyle Tucker, they traded Kyle Tucker. That is a
look towards the future. They have to be making moves
that mirror that philosophy this offseason, don't they.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, I would imagine and Cam Smith the return for
that deal a mixed bag in his opening season here
in Houston. Although I don't know how much you thought
he was going to be a guy who made the
roster and played all year at the outset.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
So what's he sitting at? They eight home runs right now? No,
I'm saying it in a positive way. That's eight more
home runs than I expected he hit for the Astros
this year. If you want to look at it that way, well,
I'm just saying I didn't expect him to play for
the team at all this year. Maybe he was gonna
get called up in August or September. There was no
spot for him. There literally was no position for him.
He's a third baseman when he got here for the Astros,
they have a third basement. I did not expect him

(45:24):
to play a single game for this team for sure
this upcoming year. So when he gets to spring training
next year, he's got five hundred played appearances as a
major leaguer. They might have a book on him, but
he's going to do nothing but get better at baseball.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
If he is who the Cubs.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Thought he was when they drafted him, if in Florida
State thought he was when they had him and who
the Astros thought he was when they acquired him, and
for him to have produced anything like he did the
first few months of this season should give you at
least some indication there's a future this. It definitely looks
like a player, you know, shortening up your swing, cleaning
this up maybe a little bit better, pitch wrecking, all

(45:58):
the things that are almost impossible to do as a
rookie like he was in the middle of a season
or all throughout a season, while you're on a baseball
team who is pressing almost from day one to win
games and to overcome all the other guys around you
that have been hurt. If he played for the Marlins,
this would be a cake walk. If there's no pressure

(46:19):
to win, there's no pressure to do anything. Just go
out there and get better. It's a good place to
be if you're a player there. It's a terrible place
to be to try to do that for a team
that's winning, because the pressure now comes along with it.
Cam Smith has had fifty to seventy five extremely high leverage,
very intense we need you here at bats at the
major league level for many of them a first place team.

(46:41):
I didn't expect him to have any of those heading
into next year. When I was where I think he
might be in the majors this year. They played him
in the outfield a little bit with sugar Land this year,
and when he came up, he got some starts in
right field. So maybe he's their right field or I
don't know yet he should be when the season ends.
He's probably penciled in as their starting right fielder in

(47:02):
a way that he still has to go out and
spring training and earn it, but he would probably start
at the front of the line.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
What do you make of Zach Cole in twenty twenty six?

Speaker 6 (47:12):
So filling out the rest of the outfield, and I'll
keep it brief so as to not be too mean.
And it's nice that we're getting to it at the
end of this segment. As great as you have a
center fielder defensively glove only with Jake Myers, he just
can't be out there anymore. You can't play This isn't

(47:34):
nineteen eighty. You can't play a shortstop that hits two
fifteen but is a gold Glover because you don't care
about their offense. That's who Jake Myers is in center field,
except he also has an absolutely abysmal arm, which was
on display last night. Most teams don't even attempt to
run on a center fielder, even though he was running
away from home plate, and it was just the Jake
Myers just to throw home. He can catch the ball,

(47:56):
he can run down just about anything. He saves your runs.
But my goodness, I never expected any Jake Myers season
from the moment he got here, with what he did
in the minor leagues, and post surgery and post anything
he can. He can't hit the ball. The ball goes
one hundred and fifty feet every time he hits it.
Whatever magic, Yes, this year is gone. He cannot drive.

(48:17):
I said hit. I should have said he cannot drive
the ball. This many at bats, batting three hundred almost
the entire season going into this road trip as the
number one base or number one batting average in baseball
on the road. But they're all singles and he's not
stealing fifty bases to turn them into extra base hits.
Maybe he's gonna steal you fifteen to twenty like he

(48:39):
did this year. But a centerfielder who absolutely cannot drive
the ball, no extra base hits, no home runs, can't
drive in runs, can't have it, can't do it. I
don't know who's going to be the center fielder, and
I'm sure they will keep him there because they got
other things to figure out. So an answer to the
Zach Cole question was sidetracked with an answer to the
Jake Myers non question.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
We'll pick up there and we come back and we'll
get to the defeatist attitude in the clubhouse. Is that
a possibility? Brian bogus Sevic touches on that when we
return as well.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
All right, picking up where we left off last segment,
we were perusing the Astros outfield, we were talking about
Cam Smith, and then we were gonna talk about Zach
Cole a little bit as it pertains to what his
twenty twenty six might look like, and that derailed into
wex completely dumping all over Jake Myers for the end
of the segment.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Yeah, by the way, since he's come back, he does
have eleven hits, they're all singles, not hitting very well,
and it's just it's it's tough to overcome when that's
there's nothing wrong with him, he's not unhealthy. I'm not
aware of anything that's keeping him from from doing anything
more than and that's not anything different from what he
did the entire season. I mean I talking about Jordan
Alvarez coming back a couple weeks and hitting his fourth

(50:01):
home run to move past Jake Myers on that list
for the season, even though he missed one hundred games,
and I know Jake missed time too. It's been a
very unsatisfactory season for him from a health standpoint, and
it had been a much more satisfactory season when everybody
else was going better and he was getting on base
because he was hitting out a three hundred clip and
as that bats looked a lot better, and again they

(50:21):
have he made significant improvements. But the level of play,
if this is plateaued, and that's gone away because remember
when they made the trade for yaner Ds, I mean
philm Ayton, and he was the guy they brought up
because Miles Straw was no longer a center field option because.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
He'd been moved in that deal.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
It was because Jake Myers had pop and he was
going to hit a bunch of baseballs over the fence
and left field at Minute made Park then and Dyke
and Park now and early in his career that that's
what he did, and that was what he was hoping
and they were hoping James Klick was hoping that he
would continue to do. Zach Cole is kind of a
wild card in this. He would not be penciled and

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I don't think anywhere, but he would just be somebody
that's at camp with our at spring training that has
an opportunity to play his way onto the team. The
health of everybody around him is probably what way would
weigh most on that their decision on what to do
with I can't hit a baseball, Hey, sus Sanchez. It
makes Dana Brown look bad, but that's not the player
he traded for. I don't think the Cubs general manager

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liked what they got from estcoc Perettis last year when
the Rays traded Perettis to the Cubs, and he was
absolutely awful. The player that the Astros got this offseason
from the Cubs, not the Cubs player that was the Rays.
Estcoc Perettis when he went over to Chicago last year.
He couldn't hit, couldn't get on base. He's just not
a good baseball player offensively, and it's just you kind

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of hope that that wasn't who he really is. And
it's like Christian Walker as well, that's a different story.
That's what happened to the Astros this year with Sanchez.
Sanchez played this year for Miami and off of right
handed pitching, which is why they added him, which is
the majority of their games played. Starting pitching wise, he
was really good. He was excellent, well above average against

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right handed pitching, and as soon as he got here,
he wasn't.

Speaker 7 (52:09):
He can't hit at all.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
He can't even play against left handed pitching, and for
good reason. But now they can't play him either. You
traded for what turned out to be an unplayable player
when you're heading down the stretch and trying to win
baseball games, you needed his offense. You traded him for
his offense. He's been awful offensively. Christian Walker was showing
signs of having less to offer you over the last

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three years, and thinking that he gave you the same
production that he gave the Diamondbacks last year, because he
has roughly the same homers and roughly the same RBIs
is just that's CBS Sports College football graphic type of analysis.
It could not be further from the truth for what
I brought up last hour, it's the actual at bats.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
I don't care if he hits two thirty.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
I don't care if his OPS is hovering around seven
twenty or seven thirty. It's actually under seven hundred. But
you cannot strike out and pop up non stop all
season long. That's Christian Walker. That's not who he was
in Arizona, not last year, not the year before, not
the year before that. His strikeout rate threw the roof

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as an astro and this month it's been through another roof,
like a house on top of a house, and he
went through that roof too. And when he's not striking out,
he's popping up over and over and over again. And
then with the occasional I'm going to knock the pitcher's
glove off with one hundred and eight mile an hour
heater right at him.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
Which he did last night.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
It's the empty at bats is the killer, killing the
offense from the cleanup spot. That's what he did this year,
and I don't know what's going to make him not
do that next year or the next year. The final
two years of his contract, which I think many of
us hope are being paid and played by somebody else.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
Okay, so as it pertains to the remainder of the
twenty twenty five season, which I firmly think will be
the next five games, boy, well know, I mean, it
could happen, It could make the postseason. Brian Bogusvik made
his weekly visit earlier today here on the station and
talked about the possibility even that there might be a

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defeatist attitude in the Astros clubhouse. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 11 (54:22):
I mean, I think you've got you've got guys in
the clubhouse, you know, as long as as long as
they're mathematically still in it, that they have a chance
and nobody's gonna, you know, go and kind of you know,
give up before it's over. But I also think that
they they you know, you have to have a little
bit of realist in you and realize just you know,
for an extended period of time, it's been a struggle.

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Certainly offensively, there's been free with the number I saw
the other day as like one hundred and forty eight
or one hundred and forty nine different lineup combination, So
that just speaks to how many guys have been in
and out of the lineup, whether it be injury or
performance wise. So yeah, it's definitely probably set in that.
You know, this is not nothing's going to click and

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all of a sudden we're going to be an offensive juggernaut.
I think everybody certainly realizes that. But you also have
enough guys in that lineup who you know we're looking
at looking at what is now a five day season.
There you can get a couple guys hot in five
days and then they can carry a lineup and you
can score enough runs to get yourself in. It's certainly
not out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 12 (55:27):
Brian bogasvik with us here on seven ninety and hopefully
this is not our last appearance of the season. But Bogey,
we're gonna look at a macro view of this team
in Christian Walker. Obviously a lot of folks were excited
about the replacement at first base. This team has been
looking for that solid offensive production, maybe since the last
few years of Yearly Guriel. Obviously the Jose A Brave

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situation did not work out. He never was going to
be a twoity five hitter here. But it just feels
like there have been two or three games where like oh,
he's gonna try in the corner and then it's a
one for eleven or it's a two for nineteen. When
you look at a Macro's stance of him. What went
wrong for Christian Walker this season?

Speaker 11 (56:09):
Well, I think, first and foremost, he got into a
situation you know, when you're when you're a hitter and
you start off slow, you're always kind of doing the
math in your head of Okay, you know, I started
off and I'm hitting two hundred after fifty at bats,
so I need to do whatever over my next hundred
and fifty to get it leveled out. And he got
to a point to where he was so far underwater
it was never going to get back to where he

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wanted it to be or where he expected it to be.
And that can be a really frustrating thing because you
know you're sitting all of a sudden, you know, three
hundred at bats in, four hundred bats in, you've got
a lot of season left, and it's already kind of
feel like, all right, this is this is a season
that's a failure, and it's just never gotten to the
point to where it looks like he's been comfortable with himself.

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You know, there's been times when the bats have gotten
more consistent and you think, all right, this is the
guy that we expect did to see, and then it
goes away. I think a lot of you know, the
biggest thing, from a whatever mechanical standpoint or whatever, is
just the inconsistency the hitting fastballs and especially elevated fastballs,
And it seems like a hole that got exposed and

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never got closed up. So I think that's probably the
one thing that you can look tough and say, hey,
that's that's what needs to be fixed moving forward. But
I think just from a seasonal standpoint, it just felt
like it got so far away from him early that
just from a mental standpoint, it felt like almost a
lost season before the season was over.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
Yeah, you mentioned the high fastballs, and I mean, it
feels like anybody who's watching these games, Christian Walker has
to know what. The hitting coaches know it, everybody knows it.
What and you mentioned like, so, what what can be done?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (57:45):
How can that get fixed?

Speaker 13 (57:47):
Well?

Speaker 7 (57:48):
You can, you can.

Speaker 11 (57:49):
You can look at it two different ways. You can
look at it from a mechanical standpoint, right, find find
what's causing extra length in your swing or a drop
off in bat speed. Are are you muscling up swinging
too hard? Are you getting long in the back and
you're not getting the barrel out front and try to
close it up and then be able to attack that pitch.
Or you can look at it from an approach standpoint
and say, you know, if I can't hit it, I

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got to lay off of it, and then you just
try to make that an area that you're not going
to go after pitches until you have to with two strikes.
But that also changes the fact that you have to
then be more aggressive and overly aggressive two pitches further
down in the zone or off speed pitches in the
middle of the zone earlier in you're at bats, so

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you can you can try to attack it one or
the other or a combination of both. But you know,
if you can't hit it, you got to not swing
at it.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Hard to not swing at it, and Boge's completely right,
but hard to not swing at it when they're throwing
strikes because they know you can't hit it. And that's
the unfortunate party just hasn't been able to catch up
to enough fast balls this year, and most of the
guys that are out there that he's faced, especially as
you get to the later innings with bullpen usage, you know,
ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine. It's it's not not
everybody can catch up with it, but this is a

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player you expected to be able to catch up with it.
And to the numbers since I brought them up and
did not give them to you. You know, last year
his strikeout percentage was twenty four point one percent, which
was one of the higher numbers in his career. This
year it's twenty seven point nine, So twenty four last year,
twenty eight percent this year is basically the worst on
the team among the regulars. Most of the other numbers
aren't that far off. It's hard hit percentage, his exit velocity,

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those things are roughly the same. But he just strikes
out all the time this year and hits an insane
number of pop ups. Kudos to the team for being
Christian Walker's Walker guys. In last night's game, they had
six strikeouts and nine pop ups. Fifteen of their twenty
seven outs were either pop ups or strikeouts, which are
the You're not asked to do very much defensively on

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plays like that either, literally nothing other than the catcher
catching the ball or can you camp out underneath this
better than Christian Javier and Carlos Correa. Okay, good, well,
then we'll get an out. Unfortunately, that's where we leave
you as we head into a thirty minute visit with
Chris Gordy coming your way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Next the Age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
Chris Gordy joining us here in studio on a Wednesday
edition of the eighteen Sports Talk seven ninety catch up
with him for a couple of segments. Here are you?
Are you like the Astros seemingly making uh October plans
that don't involve being on a baseball diamond.

Speaker 14 (01:00:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean normally we'd be planning a
whole travel series of where we're going to follow the Astros,
and right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Now, Cleveland, those travel game one THO Tuesday plans are grounded.
Right now, Cleveland's gonna win the division. Okay, the Astros
are going to win the wild Card AJ Hinson, the
Tigers are staying home Game one, first game of the
postseason in the American League. Astros will be involved Tuesday
in Cleveland. So you think Detroit falls out of this, well,

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they're going to lose the next two to the Guardians
and that gives the ass As an opportunity to catch them. Well,
that's all they do is lose. They're even worse than
Houston this month, and then they're going to Boston.

Speaker 14 (01:01:07):
Was it Trent not one of the best teams in
baseball all year?

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
It's not who they are now. It's crazy, but I'm sure,
but they'll get to throw their a I'm just kidding.
They just threw their ace. Oh school boys lost because
of him. I never got into that. I'll get into
that with you. He had an inning where he threw
the ball over first base and then he had a bok,
then he had a wild pitch. They scored all three
runs off of him in that inning and never got
the lead back.

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
Could he lose a Cy Young in this series?

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
No, it's a era stayed roughly the same because of
those unearned runs. I think if Hunter Brown maybe gives
the Astros twelve shutout innings today and then in his
final appearance on Sunday, or maybe maybe he could still
get there. But that's not what anybody's playing for. Hunter
Brown pitches today for the Astros. We'll maybe see Jeremy
Paanya in the lineup. It did appear lifeless. We've all

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talked about that, Brian Bogusavac and everybody else talked about it.
And there's no real reason for it, because these guys
aren't trying to not win. Clearly it's baseball. But what
would make you think anything changes over these last five games?
They're they're running into a six game losing streak against
the A's. Now, they've obviously played poorly for more than
a month, almost two full months, since they were in
La crushing the Dodgers. Is there even a hint of

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something that makes you think, sure it's baseball, flip a
switch or this, that and the other.

Speaker 14 (01:02:24):
Yeah, pride, I mean, you know it's and as we know,
sometimes hitting is contagious. One guy gets a hit, another
guy gets a hit. All look that a three run homer.
You know, it's just it's kind of all it takes.
But it's it's just been a story of this lineup
all year. It's been when they are struggling. Uh, it's
like the whole when the when the ship is sinking,

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The whole ship is sinking.

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
Everybody's going down and doing a whole lot of nothing.

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
So yeah, I mean, look, you gotta you gotta wipe,
wipe his slate clean, come out tonight and uh and
try to do something.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
But Severino correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 14 (01:02:59):
It's been pretty good against the Astros the last couple
times out, So man, you just got to find a way.
You gotta find a way to just tonight at the
end of that game, have more runs scored than the A's.
It's crazy saying that in a line up with jose
Al Tuve and Jeremy Panna and Carlos Korea. But yeah,
I've assuen people on social media. Is somebody throw a chair,

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somebody do something like we're past that point, Like that's
not gonna wake this team up.

Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
This will be his fourth start against the Astros this season.
He's given up two runs or fewer in each of
the first three.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Yeah, well, look, you didn't. You were riding high coming
out of that Ranger series and then Seattle happened. And
you have to give credit to Seattle because they have
been the hottest team in baseball for weeks now, and
all of the things that were keeping them from overtaking
you the Astros. When the Astros were kind of playing
with their food most of this season they're now doing,

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which is winning away from home, or at least here
in Houston. They they did very comfortably. Our thing is
when we were talking about this a little bit before
you got in here, I hate to start pointing to
twenty twenty six already, but Wex and you, Gordy, you
were just rattling off all these names that have been
the reason for this golden era of Astros baseball. None

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of them are really getting it done consistently, or if
they are, they can't stay on the field this year.
But I just don't know if you're able to just
predict that things are just going to be better because
everybody's healthy, if nothing else going into twenty twenty six.

Speaker 14 (01:04:32):
Well, here's the hard part with that Korea trade is
that he's a part of this now and he's only
going to be getting older, and you just wonder, you know,
what is he going to be for the next couple
of years where he's a part of this team.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
Altuve will be another year older.

Speaker 14 (01:04:48):
You know, we saw a significant drop off from him
a career three hundred plus hitter, batting two sixty three
right now. Don't think he's going to get the three
hundred to finish the season. So it's just you start
to worry about that. The Christian Walker signing eight, you know,
older guy who completely fell off the face of the earth.
In other words, at least in years past, we had

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an excitement to look forward to Go Man the youngster,
and Jeremy Paanya, the up and coming Jordan Alvarez, all
these young Oh, future looks bright.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
I started to look at it and going, I don't
know if the future looks bright anymore unless you go right,
unless you talk about Cam Smith or Zach Cole.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Well, the two best offensive players are still, if healthy,
in their primes. Jeremy Panne is in his prime, jord
On Alvarez is in his prime still, and they're your
two best offensive players. And they're both coming off of
briefer than you'd like, but good offensive seasons. Say now
that I mean even Jordan's full season numbers. It's amazing
how much two good weeks of baseball can do to

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a month of bad baseball, because he obviously didn't do
anything at that point in time. But we will, unfortunately,
probably have more time than usual talking about the upcoming season.
They'll have more time in between seasons more than they've
had in years to get prepared for that. We won't
have answers on a lot of their pitchers for quite
some period, quite a period.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
Of Well, you're on play more than one hundred and
ten games next year, Well, I.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Thought you were gonna stop at one hundred. I would
have taken it at one hundred. That still gives me
sixty two games of a cush and one hundred and
ten is is probably a very good number. And there's
no reason to even joke about it, or I guess,
ask about it. He he just flat out he is
injury prone. The types of injuries that that particular player
has suffered suggests that's how you get to the answer. No,

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he blew out his knee. That's not fair. He's not
injury He's had every possible variety of I can't even
believe he got hurt this way injury.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
That's an injury prone player. Could have been one of
the greatest of all time. He still could be.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
All right, I guess if you want to bring us
all down and calling Derek Rose, I mean I I
called him injury prone. I didn't say it's its high.
Entire career was shot, but he Also, how about this,
He'll also make a he has a huge raise coming
next year. That's when the real bulk of his extension
came in. But you know, maybe more about some of
the other parts of it. And really I alluded to

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this earlier. We can talk about the Astros all we want.
Why would they be better than the Mariners next year?
What is it that's not going to be there in
Seattle that is there this year? Are we counting on
cal Ralegh coming back down to Earth and getting off
of what he's on.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
That's gonna be a lock. I mean, that's there's no
way he sustains that into next year.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
Right, So he hits thirty five homers?

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Is that? I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
Are they so much worse if he's a thirty five
to one to ten guy like he was the year before.

Speaker 14 (01:07:28):
Yeah, I mean, I guess the one thing you look
at it is, gosh, Josh Naylor is only twenty eight.
I'm trying to look at like guys like maybe they're
going to start to get older. A rose Arena has
not been you know, he's what he wants this one.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
They have had unbelievable offense except for him. This is
like the worst month of his entire career.

Speaker 14 (01:07:47):
All the dudes they got at the trade deadline last
year in the world this year particularly, are starting to
do their thing.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
I mean, it's possible Josh isn't with them. Yeah, it's true,
but beyond that, that's that's something. And honestly, the team
they're playing today for the next two days, I've been
saying it for the entire season, and that's getting closer
and closer to reality. They won game number seventy four yesterday.
We're gonna finish the season with seventy seven to seventy
eight wins, maybe the A's We're not going backwards next year.

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That team's definitely gonna play over five hundred. And they
also won the season series against you yesterday. With two
games to go. Are the Astros even the second best
team in the division. We'll talk about that, and obviously
we'll flip over to the pig skin side of things,
both with the Texans and with Thank goodness, now we
have to talk about the nine game schedule because we
all know it just means more. Released last night with

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Chris Gordy here on the A.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Team the AE on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
Another segment here on the A team on a Wednesday
afternoon with Chris Gordy spending some time with us in studio,
switching over to the football side of things. If time permits,
we'll get to the Texas. If it does not, we
will get to the Texas the top of the four
o'clock hour. Their thoughts on the release of CJ. Gardner Johnson.
But for the first time all season, there are since
the first week of the season, I suppose there are

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games all throughout the day on Saturday that should have
plenty of people who might not even have their team
playing in that game that are locked in on college
football LSU, Ole, miss Auburn, Texas, A and m Oregon,
Penn State, Alabama, Georgia. Just to mention a few and
before I tap into all of those, did anything stand
out to you with last night's SEC schedule release on

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the teams you're playing over the next four seasons. They're
going to a new nine game format in conference for
the next four seasons. They had previously released the three
teams each team will keep with them on the schedule
over those four years, the so called rivalry games, and
essentially you're just playing everybody else twice once at home,
once on the road. In each set of twenty six,
twenty eight or twenty seven twenty nine. Of all those

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things that they unveiled earlier this week, did anything stand
out out as an imbalance or something that seemed a
little unfair or out of place or something maybe even
you're like, I wasn't expecting this, and that sounds exciting.

Speaker 14 (01:10:08):
Yeah, my first takeaway was there was gonna be no
easy way to do this. You just kind of have
to dive headfirst into Okay, it's a four game schedule,
it's equal across all four years. Some years will be tough,
for some years will be harder. But the big thing
that jumped out to me was seeing that at five
different teams, Like cause you go to nine, there are

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years where you were going to play four home games
and five road games. And that's where it really sucks,
because there's some people where it's like, and I'm just
throwing out a team as an example, like let's just
say Texas is at LSU, at Georgia at Alaba. I mean,
like you start to look at and go, god, that
is a brutal stretch, and then you consider, oh, wait,
we're signed on to open the season with a home

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at home with Clemson over the next few years or
somebody or USC, and it's like, God, that is a
some of these schedules.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
Look, fans want better games.

Speaker 14 (01:10:59):
I get it, but you are you were just begging
for the administration to fire your coach with some of
these schedules that are coming up. I will say, Florida
finally get some more forgiving schedule next year, but unfortunately,
I don't think Billion Napier is gonna be around to
survive it. But that's where you start to see the flux.
And then like the little weird quirks like LSU will
play A and M at home this year, they will

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play A and M at home again next year, just
because that's kind of how its schedule flipped out. And
then LSU plays at ole Miss this year, they play
at ole Miss again next year. So little things like
that where it's like, oh, I understand you couldn't get
it perfect from this year to next year.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
Well why don't we start there with this weekend LSU
ole Miss. We didn't talk any football, even though we
talked about LSU Ole Miss essentially for about an hour yesterday,
but I had nothing to do with football. It was
just laying and Landry Kiffin talk the football with Ole
Missus quarterback situation and LSU still waiting to kind of explode,
if ever offensively.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
What happens.

Speaker 14 (01:11:55):
Yeah, well they did explode last week. It was Southeastern
Norwest era.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
But I mean again, definitely, I'm not counting that.

Speaker 14 (01:12:01):
I heard the same things from a arch finally went off.
Well at least he looked better. Yeah, I mean to me,
this is very simple. Ale miss announced trindid Dad Chambliss
is going to be their starter. He's been great for
them as a start of the last two weeks in
wins over Arkansas, maybe the worst defense in the SEC
and two lane. Pretty good group of five team, but

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maybe not you know, ready for prime time.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
I just look at it as simple as this.

Speaker 14 (01:12:27):
LSU embarrassed Kate Klubnick in week one, the guy who
was a preseason Heisman favorite DJ lagways Off whom were
five star.

Speaker 7 (01:12:34):
They made him for five interceptions.

Speaker 14 (01:12:35):
If you can't get after the quarterback transfer from Farris State,
which I couldn't even point to Farris State on a map,
if you can't get after him this weekend, then you
have no business winning the game then, so that I
think it starts there. LSU has to do just enough
on offense. But I just I think LSU was on
a different level from what Ole Miss is. I understands
at Oxford LS she's lost the last two times they've

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been there.

Speaker 7 (01:12:57):
Lane Kiff, it's a really good coach.

Speaker 14 (01:12:59):
I just don't think that a guy named Trinidad Chambliss
from Farris State should be torching l s U secondary.

Speaker 7 (01:13:05):
Do you agree with Lane to take the over? I
think one of the teams.

Speaker 14 (01:13:09):
I think defense is going to cause them problems and
not allow them to throw for four hundred yards like
they typically do in these shootout games.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
So you're taking Landry's team, not Lane's, to win this.

Speaker 14 (01:13:20):
Yeah, I'll be curious that Landry might be wearing a
white l s U wit Week's jersey.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
We'll see. Do you think was about say, do you
think she wears one of those half and halt? What
was it Brady Quinn? Was it Brady Quinn's They wore
the dual jersey during the bowl game or whatever. It
might be something like that.

Speaker 14 (01:13:39):
But all I know is she should be rooting for
Lane because, as Lane said, he is the wallet and
she is the drain.

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
That's how they refer to each other.

Speaker 6 (01:13:47):
That's one of their more recent get Ready with Me
combo social media videos. That's what she referred to him
as the wallet. Nick Saban would never I mean, I
know though of eventually, I'm sure get to an outfit
of the day, probably for Game Day coming up this Saturday.
Two other games obviously deserve a little conversation. Who do

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you believe in more as a true national championship contender?
And do they win the game this weekend because of it?
Penn State hosting Oregon.

Speaker 7 (01:14:16):
Again, I say this all the time.

Speaker 14 (01:14:17):
The next time James Franklin wins a big game will
be the first time he wins a big game. So
I'm going with Oregon. I mean, I think it's so
much ado about nothing. We want to all hype up
Penn State. Joel Klatt, my appreciation championship pick is Penn State,
I laughed, hysterically, going they will never win a national
championship with him at the helm.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
It's Oregon all day.

Speaker 6 (01:14:37):
It's not his best opportunity even would you give him that?
With Drew aller an experience and the type of team
they have. Oregon's while still good, probably not one of
the best Oregon teams the last couple of years, even
though very good.

Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
He has Saquon Barkley, Like, come on.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
He does not have Saquon Barkley this time, and he
has not won the big game. Penn State will still
have a game at Ohio State. I think Indiana is
pretty potent offensively this year and may be better, maybe
better than they were a year ago when they had
the great run and then it all fell apart. The
other obvious big game back inside the SEC, Nick Saban

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and Kirby Smart getting together this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:15:15):
Do you think it'll be.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
Nick's going to be the next Oklahoma State coach? I
think I read that something that will not happen.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Alabama Georgia. This is the who are you? Game? To me?

Speaker 14 (01:15:27):
I ask Alabama, who are you? You look like crap?
Week one at Florida State and that loss. You look
great back at home against Louisiana Monroe and a bad
Wisconsin team. But Ty Simpson looked awesome and the defense
looked great flying around. For Georgia, their defenses not look great.
They gave up a ton of yards and points at Tennessee.
They were lucky as hell to get out of Noxtill
with that win two weeks ago. That said Gunner stocked

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and looked awesome their quarterback. It was his breakout game.
And so thus I say, who are you Georgia? Are
you the team that gave up all those points to Tennessee?
Are you gonna get back to being rough nose, hard
nosed Tennessee or Georgia Kirby smart defense? And same thing
for Alabama? Are you the team that struggled on the
road since kaaln de Borer. Look at Kailen de Bor's

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road numbers. He won at LSU last year. Outside of that,
I think he lost just about all his other road games.
I mean, he's he has not coached a good team
on the road at Alabama very well.

Speaker 7 (01:16:19):
So we'll see. We'll see what they do on the
road here.

Speaker 14 (01:16:21):
But I do think look Ryan Williams, they couldn't contain
him last year. I saw Tennessee wide receivers run a
while two weeks ago for Georgia secondary, so maybe he
has a monster day.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
We'll see college football here on iHeartRadio. We've got U
of h and Oregon Friday Night Over on nine to
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Speaker 15 (01:16:38):
C L.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
What did I say, Oregon, I didn't finish it, Oregon State.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
I believe me. I will know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
We just talked about clearly, Oregon's not playing both Friday
and Saturdays. I will be at the Oregon State game.
I will be in Corvallis for the Friday night game.
That's over on nine to fifty kPr c lsu Ole
Miss in the afternoon. Got that right here for you
on Sports Talk seven. Appreciate the visit as always, mister
g Thanks fellas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team, all.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
Right, the eight team. Into the back half of the
Wednesday show. Let's take it back to the Texans. Next
segment will be joined by Nick Suss, tennesseean beat writer
for the Tennessee Titans. A war of words apparently started
in the respective locker rooms earlier today, but we'll check
in with him next segment. Visited with him before the season.

(01:17:46):
I think they're his assessment of what was likely on
the table this year for the Titans. Probably right on
point as most because they weren't expected to do a lot.
When you're on three, you have not done a whole lot.
Different story for the Texans. They've also made some news
this week, and they traded for a player off of
a Super Bowl champion team in hopes of making their
very good defense even better. Probably even at the time,

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I think most of us thought, well, they got a
good football player and it did not cost them a
good football player or an asset of great consequence. So yeah, great,
adam to the defense. That should be fine.

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
Gardner Johnson playing in Tamiko Ryan's defense. He lost Eric
Murray and free agency. Jimmy Ward had been a little
bit unreliable due to injury and now obviously other reasons.
So great, that sounds like a reasonably good fit. On
the eleven you won. On the field, they were very
good without him, and they probably would have continued to
be very good without him. And now you're definitely gonna

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find out if they're going to be good without him
because he lasted three whole weeks. Made official yesterday. The
news broke earlier just before our show, and the Texans
made the official release yesterday afternoon. Had their first practice today.
He obviously was not there. Have filled that spot on
the roster it with Zion Schilders, a player out of
the Houston area, off of the Cowboys practice squad. Second

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time already this season they've signed a player straight as
you have to in the NFL, straight to the active
roster off of another team's practice squad. We'll see if
either of them make their way to the field. Baits,
the tight end last week, was inactive on game day,
and I suspect Childers will be potentially in that same
spot today though he was on the field wearing an
unknit named no letters, no stitching on the back of

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his blank thirty eight jersey. Hopefully by tomorrow's practice they
will have that ready for him. Wednesday, on a Sunday
game week, we visit at the podium with the head
coach and the quarterback of the football team.

Speaker 7 (01:19:35):
CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
Stroud speaking earlier today, and we'll start with Tamiko Ryans
speaking earlier today. As expected, the important, very important. He's
not here, so let's talk about him.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
Gardner Johnson dimiko'rians on the release of safety CJ.

Speaker 7 (01:19:51):
Gardner Johnson.

Speaker 9 (01:19:53):
I know everyone saw the news or we release CD.
Just with CD to Bess. Unfortunately. You know, we just
moved on, and for me, every decision I make is
always in the best interest of our team. I felt
it was the best decision for us to move forward,
and so now we're here, We're on to the Titans.

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
Can I can I get a why question in for you?

Speaker 7 (01:20:13):
Dimiko?

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
Is there a why that the team decided to release CJ.
Gardner Johnson.

Speaker 9 (01:20:18):
Yeah, I'm not going to go into all the details
of it. It was coming from me to head coach,
is my team. It was the best for our team,
and that's why I made the decision. So I'm not
going to any further details on it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
Appreciate you calling on me again, but is there anything
you can talk about We've all heard about most of
us who've been in the locker room or have relationships
enough with the players to have discussed it. The locker
room vibe, the locker room culture, how things are different
or how things were or the last several months with CJ.
Gardner Johnson, anything you can talk about on the culture

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of the locker room.

Speaker 9 (01:20:54):
I have a great pulse of our team right and
I know our locker room. I know what's going on
with and around our team, and you know, I'm always
keen and aware of what's going on, and that's why
it's what it should be as a head coach. And
you know it's always my first rule or a team

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rule for our guys, always protect the team. And it
starts with me as a head coach to making sure
everybody is on the same page with being a team,
team first mentality.

Speaker 15 (01:21:24):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
I've said that from my opening press conference here, and
that'll always be me. It'll always be about the team.
It'll never be about one person, It'll never be about
me personally. It's just collectively as a team, Like that's
how you go win. That's how you do great things.
You do great things with everybody collectively working together, being
on the same page and doing it with a joyful spirit,

(01:21:45):
joyful attitude. And that's how That's what I always stand on.

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
So you know we've talked about, you know, as a
honeymoon over that kind of thing. There is one thing
that Dimiko said right there and I would absolutely one
hundred percent agree with has been his mo since today
he got here. Everything he just said there, I don't
disagree with any of it. I I do believe that's

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the case has it been. Has it affected decisions that
were small and decisions that were big? Yeah, I think
this is an example of that. I don't know how
you can It might be hard to see how this
decision is characterized as big, but kind of like how
you framed it coming into the segment, this guy helped
another team win a super Bowl. He was supposed to

(01:22:31):
help your defense, and you're cutting bait with him three
games into the season in which you're zero to three.
Something happened. And while we can sit here and criticize
Demko ryans now more than ever for certain decisions, whether
they be coaching highers because he's got a hand in that,
or whether they be you know, playing time for certain guys,

(01:22:53):
especially on the defensive side of thing, or how anything
like that. X's and o's. Why is you want to
talk about I've never questioned and his pulse ability if
you will. I think that was a big reason why
he was hired. I think it was a big reason
why he was a draw when he was on the
coaching market to be hired. And I think it's going
to continue to be one of his strong suits his

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weaknesses as of right now, our coaching hires specifically on
the offensive side of the ball, and his inability so far,
whether it's in tandem with Nick Cassario or whatever the
case is, to protect his franchise quarterback and so this
but this, I mean, those those things I just mentioned

(01:23:36):
to me are far more important than what he's talking about.
I realized the culture and all that kind of stuff
inside of locker room is a big part of winning.
But I also, like I've said many times, I also
realized that winning can allow you to ignore some other
things like that. And they're not winning right now.

Speaker 6 (01:23:54):
Yeah, and impossible to answer. Question is CJ. Gardner Johnson
a Texan if the Texans are three and zero?

Speaker 9 (01:23:58):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
But my question about it how you addressed all that
that Tamiko said is essentially it sounds like you totally
agree with him, feeling like he knows enough about the
makeup of this team, the locker room vibe, the culture
of all those things, the pulse of the that he
made the right decision. Because for this to happen, he's
got to be convicted enough to you know, in his

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daily conversations when they're not arm wrestling with GM Nick Casseo,
he's going to Nick and saying, got to get this
guy's out of here.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
This is enough.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
I don't know if you've been I know you've been
trying to trade him. Let's say, I know, whatever, whatever
the case may be. Do you think he he would
go to the general manager to say, I know there's
financial ramifications, but that's this is it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:40):
He cannot be on this team anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
We need him off this team, which is I mean,
I'm not telling you what happened, but that clearly is
essentially what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
Do you think in those conversations he also says, really, man,
this is the line.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Well, that's the other part of it, I think, and
I don't know how everybody else feels about it. You
have a defensive head coach, so the assumption is he's
focused on the defense. He's focused on defensive personnel both
from the NFL and from college, and he's focused on letting.
He's not the general manager. He's not trying to be
Bill O'Brien. He's not trying to be Pete Carroll or

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Bill Belichick or any other coaches who have taken on
too much and tried to do everything. He's leaning on
Nick Caserio with his heavy input on how to manipulate
the draft and what they need out of the draft,
And I don't think they are so far off from
We think these players were the best available at the time,

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and we thought there was a pocket of players at
this particular position that if we traded back from here
to there, we can be just fine.

Speaker 7 (01:25:40):
I think they truly believe that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
Not drafting an offensive lineman with the twenty fifth pick
in the draft, which we spent weeks and weeks analyzing
whether it should be's Able or Connorly or Banks or
the kid from our own backyard, Jackson or Josh Simmons.
We went through all those players, and all those players
were taken in the area of the draft. If we
were talking about figured a few would have already been
off the board, and they were, figured a few would

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still be on the board, and they were. But instead
of drafting an offensive lineman, specifically a tackle at twenty five,
he orchestrated a deal to jump out of the first round,
ultimately to get back to number thirty four. Taking the
offensive lineman at forty eight were three games into the
season into their careers. There's zero evidence that ariante Ursery

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and the player at tackle that was drafted at thirty
two Josh Simmons are on the same career paths. Simmons
has started all three games at left tackle for the
Kansas City Chiefs, and he's played quite well, let's say
grated out very well, played quite well. Plays for a
very good quarterback who knows a lot about creating extra time.

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He's having his most extensive year extending plays and running.
But he's played very well. And I believe in their
mind and their draft evaluations, they thought Josh Shimmins at
twenty five, Josh Shimmins at thirty two, Ersrie at forty eight,
there is no difference. They are the exact same future.
So we're gonna manipulate the draft and go in that direction,

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and we're gonna use two other picks, one before Ersery
and one after Ersrie at wide receiver because in our mind,
that's the best player on the board. I mean, that's
the player we need. And I told you I hated
it when Nick Cassario bristled at best player available conversation there.
This whole thing is to say, the assumption is you
have a defensive coach who does nothing with the offense,

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and if Nick wants to draft that player.

Speaker 7 (01:27:32):
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
If Nicks wants to draft that player, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
And I don't really see it that way.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
I'm not sure how much blame to put on Demiko
for who they've gone after when it comes to free agency.
I blame him almost zero. Nick is making the decision
on trading for ed Ingram who's worked out, on going
to get Jake Andrews, on signing Lake and Tomlinson, on
taking Ariante Ersrie, which obviously is draft related, and all
the other moves that's those aren't Demko moves. Those are

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Nick Cassario moves, and it's resulted in a line that
is comparably unhelpful to what they're trying to do offensive.
I don't think they're worse than last year, but they're
not enough better in any way overall to make much
of a difference. And we'd like to be able to
operate an offense, which they still can't do.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
And the offense is worse than last year.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Yeah, the production from the offense is the bottom of
the barrel. That's why I keep saying they're not even
like these other five h and three teams. The other five,
they literally have the lowest scoring team in the NFL
through three weeks. That's not on who they've played. That's
on them. They're the worst team in the NFL on
the red zone, they're the worst team in the NFL
on third down. They weren't any of those things, and

(01:28:40):
certainly not all of those things at any point in
the first two Dimico, Ryans C. J.

Speaker 7 (01:28:44):
Stroud seasons. But that's where they are now. We'll talk
to Nick Suss about that and more when we come back.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
Set the things from the other side, although it's the
same side as we continue here on the A Team
Adam Wesler and Adam Clinton with you. I say it's
the same side because it's OWN three against OWE three.
It's AFC South against AFC South. But Nick Suss, who
joined us before the season talking about the outlook for
the Tennessee Titans, joins us again as they get set
for the first of their two meetings this year. Nothing

(01:29:25):
but positivity here for us on the Texans all weeks
long this season. So we'll do the same to open
for your Titans here, Nick, tell me the thing that
you think the team likes most about their own three
start I'm being serious. What's what's something they liked about
their own three star answer?

Speaker 8 (01:29:44):
I can give you a sincere answer. You remember how
bad the Titans special teams have been for the last
three years. They're okay now. They haven't had any kicks
punts blocked that broke their kickers legs. Like, not trying
to be overly glib, but like they've had a really
good in the game. Rookie Jim ray DK has been

(01:30:04):
very good as a kick returner. Punt returner have turned
down called back by a block that was away from
the ball that didn't really affect the play, and he
had a touch a couple long returns that he's busted out.
Joey Sli's been hitting fifty five at another field goals
all season.

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
The punting that's been good.

Speaker 8 (01:30:20):
That generally speaking is plus a pretty good on special
teams right now and after being thirty second in the
league for about three fourteen that is genuinely a revelation.

Speaker 6 (01:30:31):
Can only fix so much is one time, Nick, We're
gonna try to reconnect with you, So we'll give you
a minute here and try to see if we can
clean it up just a little bit. Tightens like I
mentioned oh in three Texans and three I thought the
Texans got off to a pretty impressive first game of
the season and making a game of it with the
Denver Broncos, and things have kind of slid in the
wrong direction since then. They've obviously made the change with

(01:30:53):
coach Callahan giving up offensive play calling duties. He's an
offensive coach, that's why he's brought there two seasons ago.
That to their quarterback call, though he's made it clear
there's not a fire sale going on. Greag To reconnect
with you, Nick, as I was kind of running through
a couple of things.

Speaker 7 (01:31:10):
We'll start right up there.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
Making the change offensively, was it obvious to you that
there clearly was some disconnect between what they could be
doing offensively the plays that were coming in the execution
of that, to the decision Callahan made this week to
give up play calling duties.

Speaker 13 (01:31:25):
So look, I think what I've started asking about this
and from talking to people, it feels to me the
issue has less to do with the play calling hasn't
been working, and has a little bit more to do
with the other parts of head coaching have not been
Callahan's forte. If I'm looking at the things that people

(01:31:47):
have been critical of Callahan for this season. There have
been some situations where maybe fans were displeased with the
way they handled the last couple of plays before halftime
in Week one, and some run pass options of running
out the clock and those sort of things, But it's
really been the mismanagement of challenges, the mismanagement of time out,

(01:32:09):
the mismanagement of stuff that you have to juggle when
you're calling plays and handling those things. So for as
much as this offense has not been good, I don't
necessarily know if that is play calling versus players, versus
the defenses, versus the combination of all three, Whereas I

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think anyone who's been watching this team can confidantly say
the operation the game management hasn't been up to par
of what it was last year, let alone what it's
been for some of the stronger, more successful teams in
the league. So maybe that sounds a little bit diplomatic,
but I do think that this has more to do

(01:32:50):
with shoring up the sides of the ball that aren't
play calling than it is necessarily trying to get a
spark out of a new play caller.

Speaker 7 (01:32:58):
Well, and you're going to have bumps in the road
with a rookie quarterback there, and obviously here in Houston,
you feel like it's just regressed when it comes to CJ.
Stroud as a guy who's on the outside but also
sort of on the inside covering the division. What's the
EMO on CJ Stroud here in year three? And is

(01:33:20):
it as easy as saying, well, he just doesn't have
a line to protect him, or are you starting to
assess a little bit more of the blame for what's
going wrong for the Texans offense on him.

Speaker 13 (01:33:31):
It's so hard to say, and you guys know that
better than anybody, But like I think, from an outsider's perspective,
it's really easy. It's really convenient to blame the O line.
I look at the advanced Stolne metrics and they are
not necessarily as bad as I thought they would be.
They're not great. I'm not obviously sitting here saying they've
got a world beating offensive line, but look, I mean,

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the Titans still lead the NFL and quarterback pressures by
a long, long mile, So maybe I am just attuned
to the Well, it's better than what I'm seeing on
a week to week basis. Where the Titans are still
allow one I think thirty six percent of their pressures
from right tackle alone, and the Titans are giving up
a quarterback pressure on something close to forty percent of

(01:34:12):
their dropbacks. And I've seen that offensive line play and
the Texans have not been great, But I think the
issues go a little deeper.

Speaker 9 (01:34:21):
And I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:34:23):
I can't speak to confidence, I can't speak to mindset.
I can't speak to play calling. I'm not in that
locker room every day, but I think anybody who's been
watching this division complainly see he's not the same guy
who was two years ago. He's not putting up the
same sort of calm, assuredness that I thought was kind
of a hallmark of what made him so special as

(01:34:43):
a rookie is that he was not phased by anything.
So blame it on the O line, blame it on
the play calling, blame it on the player, whatever you
want to be. You guys are right, it is dipped.
But I can't speak super confidently as to why, well.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
You got ninety nine passes to analysis to do analysis
on what are your early thoughts on the first three games?
The first ninety nine passes in cam Ward's NFL career.

Speaker 13 (01:35:11):
I do not think the problem with this Titans team
is cam Ward throwing the football. I think that there
are a lot of things that when he has not
throwing the football, that need to improve. His pocket presence,
his ability to know where his checks are, his ability
to get out of the pocket, handle tempo, to do

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all of those things that are the really difficult ancillary
parts of playing quarterback. He's got a lot of room
for growth, and you'd expect that he's played three NFL games.
Arm talent truly not a concern like the decision making.
He's made two or three throws that are your classic
no no no, no, no yes throws where you're just

(01:35:52):
in awe of the facts that the ball can get there.
But other than that, I don't know. I think that
he is high to where I thought he would be,
which is firmly between the twentieth and thirtieth best quarterback
in the NFL right now, which room to grow?

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
Texans and Titans Over at NRG Stadium, a pair of
owned three teams this Sunday inside the AFC South, both
of them off of losses. Inside the AFC South, the
trenches talked a little bit about the Titans on the
offensive side, Has their pressure rates their pass rush been
a little bit better than we only have two sacks

(01:36:31):
all season would suggest.

Speaker 13 (01:36:33):
Oh no, if I'm being honest, one of those sacks
was from a afety on a blips and one of
those was from Jeffrey Simmons up the interior. So you
are still looking at a team that has yet to
record a sack from a pass rusher and edge rusher.

(01:36:57):
I have not very much confidence in this team's ability
to rush with speed. They built their defense around the
idea that they wanted power rushers who are table setters
and edge setters who can set an edge in the
run game, and they've done an okay job of that.
They're not doing great against the run, but the team

(01:37:18):
seems to think that's because of mistackles at the second
level more than it is because of who's setting the
edge up front. Draymond Jones, Ardent Key, Olofemio La Deejo
are going to be your three primary edge patch rushers,
and with demandre slat on IR, it's pretty much Jeffery
Simmons up the middle with some other guys who are
definitely more known for running the football. So if the

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Titans are going to put pressure on Stroud this week,
they're going to have to get creative. They're going to
have to get their linebackers and their safety is involved
like they have this season, to get a couple of pressures,
and really they're going to have to completely outperform the
expectation because on a team where there are so many
things that are evidently wrong, you're zero and three for
a reason. I would say the pass rush has been

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the biggest week point all season.

Speaker 7 (01:38:07):
Nick. This might sound like an odd question considering we're
talking about Texans Titans, but the Titans are one of
the few teams that can say they played this other team.
What in the world is going on in Indianapolis? And
what do you think you saw that makes their start
so surprising here in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 13 (01:38:27):
It's something that I've been amazed at. They are so
good when they are on schedule that the stuff that's
happening on the periphery that usually decides football games hasn't
been deciding football.

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
Games for them.

Speaker 13 (01:38:43):
So what I mean by that is if you look
at things like third down conversion rate, things like red
zone touchdown rate, the things that we always hold deer as, oh,
these are going to win you and lose you games.
The Colts aren't beating down any doors with that. They're
just really good offensively, turning first and ten into second
and four and then turning second and four into first

(01:39:03):
and ten, and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And
so I see a team that is really on the schedule.
I see a team that, especially on offense, is doing
what it wants to do. And let's not to say
they haven't played close games. I know that game in
Denver was a clear against Denver was a very close game.
But we'll see how this holds up if they, you know,

(01:39:28):
start reaching adversity. But this is a team that has
done a really good job of protecting itself from adverse situations.
And if you do that, you're going to win a
lot more games than you lose.

Speaker 7 (01:39:38):
A fellow connoisseur of press box oatmeal raisin cookies, Nick Suss,
joining us here on the A team Sports Talk seven ninety.
Thanks Nick for the time, appreciate it. We want to
catch up later on the season.

Speaker 13 (01:39:50):
Yeah, appreciate that. That's a deep cut on the fine off,
So thank you. Guys for remembering that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:55):
Absolutely, we had some help from one Chris Gordy. You're
probably familiar with his work. All right, that's Nick's. We
will discuss what he had to say and get to
our signature segment here on a Wednesday that's going.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Up next, the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety A
little help over the hump with some Wednesday BS, two.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
Adams and a whole lot of bit stealing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Bit stealing with the bit Steelers better known as the eighteen.

Speaker 7 (01:40:29):
All right, this will clearly be of the BS variety,
not strictly bit stealing variety, if you know what I mean.
We have talked actually about this subject a lot, Wes,
and I don't think it's going away anytime soon, if
for no other reason than what Tom Brady had to
say about it. First of all, were you aware that

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he has a newsletter? It's weekly.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
Yeah, it's very cleverly titled. I forgot what it was though.

Speaker 7 (01:40:59):
Oh so I don't know. Yeah you do come on twelve. No, no, oh,
do your job. Sorry, I forgot about that one little thing.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
So he's he's getting he'd like somehow slide that little
newsletter under people's pillows overnight so they can wake up
to it, or something seems very inspirational, and he's motivational.
Somehow he's got the ability to do that. Hey, do
your job exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:41:25):
This is going to keep going on until he's not
doing one of the two jobs he currently does, and
he's getting more and more pushback from, for example, players
former to step down from the broadcasting position, and he's
part owner of the Raiders, so obviously doing games on Fox.

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But according to him in that newsletter, he has no
issue taking on both roles. He says, I love football
at its core is a game of principles, or it
is a game of principles, and with all the success
it has given me, I feel I have a moral
and ethical duty to the sport, which is why the
point where my roles in it intersect is not actually

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a point of conflict, despite what the paranoid and distrustful
might believe. Rather, it's the place from which my ethical
duty emerges to grow, evolve, and improve the game that
has given me everything. So not only is he doubling down,
he's bringing in ethics into a discussion where that very

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word is thrown around very loosely.

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
I would never me, tom Brady, Oh my gosh, trust me,
Believe me. Of all the people you can trust me,
I would never the sanctity of the NFL. I mean
I would be so deflated if somebody felt that way

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about me and thought I was unscrupulous and would take
advantage of whatever means necessary to come out on top
in the game of football. I would never believe me.
Not an issue. Next topic, signed Tom Brady. His ethical
duty wouldn't allow it after all. Yeah, not involved in

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anything that would suggest he might try to do whatever
he can along with his team to gain an advantage.
And I don't even blame them for it. Everybody does
that in the NFL. There's an advantage to be gained,
and you can push and push and push as far
as possible, right up until and maybe slightly passing over.

Speaker 7 (01:43:33):
The you're breaking the rules, dude, you can't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:36):
You'll do it. Every team would like to do that.
Every team might find a way. Then they get some
pushback or we can't do this. This is definitely going
to ring some bells and we have to back off.
But this team he played for, not Tampa, this other
team he played for constantly involved in well that's against

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the rules where you're not supposed to do that. Well,
we I don't know what happened to the tape. I
probably got destroyed. I don't know why your measurements are
this and our measurements are that, and cold here and
cold there bringing the scientists to flate Gate. Oh my gosh, Tom,
did you try to make a post do your job

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post on your phone?

Speaker 7 (01:44:18):
What happened to it?

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
Oh? I smashed it. I'm gonna have to go find
it somewhere else. This guy, this guy to flate Gates
game hilarious. I am above it all. I love the game.
My ethics are unchallengeable. I would never ever ever to
this great game. You got the wrong guy.

Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
What's interesting about this is some of the people that
are former players that are pushing back. One of them
is Rodney Harrison, and I would argue that he was
as important a teammate as any, especially on the defensive
side of the ball, that Tom Brady's ever had. I
mean the obvious ones you're gonna talk about, you know, yeah,
the better ones, Gronk and you know guys on offense, Edelman,

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you know, guys like that that are direct beneficiaries of
his genius.

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
Well, even like Vince will Fork and other Teddy Bruski
and Mike Frabel and other defensive players. I mean I
don't I don't necessarily rate them lower than Rodney.

Speaker 7 (01:45:20):
Well, Rodney rates himself very high. As you know, he
gave this quote. I played fifteen years in the league,
but I've been a broadcaster for seventeen years. That sentence
right there makes me feel super old, by the way,
because I remember watching Rodney play. He's been away from
the game with it.

Speaker 10 (01:45:34):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
And it's definitely a conflict of interest. And Tom Brady's
a smart dude. He's gonna use this. He's gonna use it.
It's human nature to use the information. If he talks
to Howie Roseman or how he tells him how he
builds a team. You don't think he's going to take
that back to the Raiders and use the same thing.
And just think about free agency. If somebody told him, oh,
this guy's not very tough. When that guy becomes a

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free agent, he already knows, Hey, I'm going to back
away from that. So it's definitely a conflict of interest. Now,
those are very like over the top examples, very simplistic,
very watered down. But all of this stuff, nobody has
said anything so far that I'm like, I don't really
agree with that. It's all legit plausible.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
I fully expect some of Tom Brady's defense as to
what information have you shared that clearly gives your team
an advantage and clearly hurts the other teams involved. I
fully expect part of his defense to be, you know,
something like this for our TV viewers. You know, someone
on the Raiders, maybe the coach, maybe Pete, maybe Geno,

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maybe somebody that's involved in something a look they're gonna get.
And he knows should we run this lay? What do
you think about this? Do you think this might work?
And Tom knows, well, I know this. I've talked to people.
I've been in some production meetings, and those fools gave
me this information, but I can't share it with them.
What should I do here? And Gino says, hey, Tom,
is this is this the look that they're gonna give

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me in this when we get to third and seven
and where at this point on the field, and Tom's
just not going to say a word. He's not going
to say a single thing because of his ethics. But
he will go give it a look, but he will
shake his head. No, he will not. Yes, it's it's
the debate is over about one thing. I would think
we would all agree there. We're not debating whether it's

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a conflict of interest or not.

Speaker 7 (01:47:22):
We all agree that it is. It's when the NFL
is going to step in. Never they're not.

Speaker 6 (01:47:26):
Probably they stop to this because Tom Brady is good
for the NFL. Tom Brady's getting paid a handsome sum,
very very handsome by Fox to do what he does.
I mean, I don't think the other thirty one owners
plus Goodell care enough don't want him in their ownership group.
I think they do want him in their ownership group.
What if y'all let you choose Shack or Charles, I'll

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go Shack.

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
I mean, what if he is part owner of and
it won't be the Magic pick a team he didn't play.

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
Well, let me ask you this. It's very, very different
slant on it. But Magic Johnson spent a lot of
time in studio while he was the part owner of
the Lakers. Nobody took him seriously. But he's so bad
at it. But it doesn't involve the same thing. He
was just talking about the games. If Tom Brady was
a studio guy and not going to any meetings and
not having any relationship with anybody, because quite honestly, those

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people don't Matt Ryan and Nate Burleson and Bill Kauer
and the other people in specific studio sets, they're not
out there gathering information or getting information for a broadcast.
They know stuff, and they know people, and they'm like
phone calls, but not to the extent that I think
the belief is that Tom could do this. I just
hope the other teams are smart enough to do the
right thing. Lie to him, tell him stuff that isn't

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true during your production meetings.

Speaker 7 (01:48:40):
Come on and see if he figures it out.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Is it so hard?

Speaker 7 (01:48:42):
That's a good point, all right. We will round out
the four o'clock hour coming up next here on a
Wednesday edition of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
The Ad on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
Do you happen to see if lex the videos the
Rockets are putting out? Where they went to catch up
with Yao Ming.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
I listened a little bit of what kat Katino Mobiley
had to say when he was out on assignment with
him with the Rockets overseas and a basketball camp, talking
about he was a great dude. Then he's a great dude.
Now it's always great being with him.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
You uh, you were covering the team like that was
obviously I was drafted in uh A one, no two?

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Yes, two.

Speaker 7 (01:49:30):
Just make sure my year's right, obviously, I said, and uh,
and Kat and Steve came aboard in the ninety nine year.
So Barkley was there, Elijahwan was there, but they were
on the way out. Barkley rips up his leg. We
all know how that went. And so it became those
two in the backcourt, which was just organized.

Speaker 6 (01:49:48):
Chaos, fun, fun stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:49:51):
ISO ball to the eighth degree. And then here comes this.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
Now, wait a second, was was Steve a one or two?
Should draft Vince Young? Al Theimer's All conversations.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
In the two thousand were insane. So you know, Katino
mob you you were there for all that before. I
was in college when this was happening. I graduated in five.
I'm old. So by the time I got out, mcgrady's
already there, you know, basically, and Kat and Steve have
been traded for him to Orlando. But like that rookie year,

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the last year they played at the Summit, I refused
to call it anything else. The only year that Yao
wore the awful pin stripes. If you want to call
them that, it's so dumb um. What was like Katino's
catching up with him and he's talking about meeting him
in the garage the first day? What was that like?

Speaker 6 (01:50:46):
Well, the thing is, I think what most people know
about Yao mostly came from the year's way after that,
because all this was new to him. He clearly wasn't
speaking English yet with his interpret He didn't know shout
out to Colin Pine. He didn't know the United States,
he didn't know NBA basketball. He knew how to play basketball,
and he did you were the basketball side of it.

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Not to sidetrack the question, but remember how most assumed
that the Rockets would figure out how to get him
involved in things, and you know, slowly he'd come off
the bench and.

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
He'd give them some minutes. I'm like, and then come on,
he can play. He can play right.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
But you could see from and this is nothing new
with Katino's relationship with him, because it happened with all
the other teammates that ended up playing with him. I
can't tell you what it was specifically like. To the
event of meetium for the first time that Katina was
talking about. But I think it was it was easier
when nobody else was around, and maybe it was a
smaller setting for yall to start getting to know the guys,

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because I think that's part of basketball that he really
did have a good understanding of his team sport. I
need these are these are my teammates, these are my friends,
these are this is my family. Yeah, and so I
need to you know, I need to know them, and
I think vice versa, because it's all new to them.
You know, this is a this is a big foreigner.
But somebody they're not familiar with in any way, they

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don't know his games a little bit different maybe if
somebody came as the number one pick from overseas, like
just happened with Victor Wembin. Yell, don't you think most
NBA players were pretty familiar with his game long before
he played his first NBA game, which I think is
very different absolutely ton.

Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
Just think about when he was drafted, both awkward videos,
both awkward fist pump slash high five situations.

Speaker 6 (01:52:36):
Like how many times starting with him to this past
year's draft, has the number one pick not been at
the draft. He was obviously not at the draft right
those game the lottery confused with the draft.

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
No, no, no, you're getting I thought.

Speaker 6 (01:52:52):
We were at West Side when they made the pick.
Obviously we knew that who they were picking. But they
made the pick and he was there with his family,
not at the draft.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
Yeah, those might be the only take. Just doesn't happen
very often, even because well for the number one overall
I don't think Dirk was at the draft when he
was drafted, but he wasn't the number one overall pick
for it, I'm not even gonna say it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
So this whole thing is for many people who have
been with the Rockets for all these years, fans, I mean,
these these things are. It's it's so unique, in my opinion,
for what wasn't accomplished by that era of rocket Man.
It's unique for the Katino to yew through Tracy era
of Rockets that did not accomplish nearly what I think

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everybody expected them to or probably could have if not
for injury. But the unique part is how close they
are I think with the organization still y'all meant so
much to the to the organization, the city, the franchise
the league that it was kind of obvious they would
want to have a long term, continued relationship long after
his career. But the other people players involved, Tracy's a

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little bit more involved than he was once. Obviously, Katino's
still does things when opportunities like this present for himself,
the Rockets just in the bigger picture the last several
years when they've had anniversaries to celebrate or reasons to
bring legends back, extremely well attended, extremely well received. And
I say all this and we're like a day or

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two removed from video of or picture post that I
saw Lauren Sampson repost it from Chris's account. Lauren's obviously
in the basketball ops department over at the University of
Houston with Dad kelvin a picture of Dream a chem
olage one working with former Cougar current pacer Jaris Walker
and their new big who's bigger than both Dream and

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Jaris Chris Sinnak, who will have his first season this year.
The involvement and the continued link of the stars of
Houston Rockets basketball and for this matter of the Cougars
that still exists. I know other cities have it to
a certain degree.

Speaker 7 (01:54:56):
Well, go in the Athletic Center and that's all you
need to do about that. I mean, you'd see the
Elijuan years there and obviously here with the Rockets.

Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
But I think it's it's it's something to grab a
hold of, and I think they have as much as
possible and as much of those that are involved have
have allowed for because it is a lot. But it's
I love it. I love Sanctano around, I love him
being a part of this. I love that they're still
fairly close for I mean, y'all doesn't live here, so
there's only so much you can be.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
So you had to go to China to take this video,
did you. I understand he has worked with other superstars
from other teams, other organizations over the years, Kobe, Dwight, Yannest, Yeah, exactly,
dream but there should be a clause in his personal
services contract that you cannot work with certain organizations big men,

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and the Spurs have to be at the top of
that list.

Speaker 6 (01:55:46):
Well, I mean, I do didn't really catch the rest
of the content key of it. But when Fred van
Vliet went down, since I brought up Yannis for some reason,
Bill Simmons, I believe he was with Zach Lowe.

Speaker 7 (01:55:58):
Yeah, I saw that he spoke with him.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
Do you think this fan Vleet injury has a bearing
increases the likelihood of a Yannis trade?

Speaker 7 (01:56:06):
So the Rockets wait what? So okay, since you brought
that up, I know that that was like whispered about
when Yannis was seemingly not wanting to win, and we're
not going to you're trading. I mean, who aren't you trading?
That isn't named a Men Thompson and they're gonna ask

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for him to.

Speaker 6 (01:56:28):
The trade that they were gonna make this off season
has been made. Yeah, a big superstar. I mean I
guess they have the assets truthfully to make one. At
what point have you made your situation worse? And the
moment you trade some of these Schengoon caliber future talents

(01:56:51):
a Men or Jabari or three or four of these
players after you've already drafted two or three of those
play or traded two of those three type play, you're
not good enough anymore. You have no depth and your
window got shorter. You better win right now, like immediately,
right now.

Speaker 7 (01:57:06):
Yeah, because any superstars in their thirties, especially late thirties,
you gotta be and you're trying to make shift the
roster around these guys because their salaries are off the charts. Now,
I'll take them in Thompson playing with Kevin Durant and
Albrin Shingoon and take my chances. I'll also take football
at five because that's coming up next.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 6 (01:57:45):
The program this afternoon brings with US Football at five.
We will have football tickets to give away. Final segment
of the show to go see U of H in
Texas Tech six o'clock first Saturday in October overre TDCU
stad So be listening in the next several segments. Something
we talk about will be the answer to a question

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we'll ask you in.

Speaker 7 (01:58:07):
That final segment.

Speaker 6 (01:58:08):
A couple of things from the Texans as they hit
the practice field for the first time this afternoon.

Speaker 7 (01:58:13):
We'll do so again tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:58:14):
We'll have a light walkthrough on Friday, and then we'll
welcome in the Tennessee Titans for the second game on
their home schedule this year. First one almost went well
enough to get victory, but the Tampa Bay Bucks scored
on the last play from scrimmage. In that game, kickoffs
just simply ran out the clock and it was lost.

Speaker 7 (01:58:33):
Number two of three. The head into this game at
Owen three.

Speaker 6 (01:58:36):
The Titans head into this game at Owen three very
much expected for a Titans team who clearly lacks talent.
Two sacks on the season, they were one of the
easiest teams to put points on the board against, and
they're running a rookie quarterback out there, the number one
overall pick cam Ward with limited weapons around. Tony Pollard's
a legitimate NFL starting running back, but would not be

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confused with one of the best, and his receiving corps
and tight end group is certainly not.

Speaker 7 (01:59:03):
Among the best in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:59:05):
I'm being as nice as possible the attendance report I
was able to share with you earlier today from Texans practice,
which is essentially all that we were able to do
when we're out there. Well, what was accurate. Did not practice,
Derek Stingley Junior did not practice. Yakub Johnson did not practice.
Titus Howard obviously, I didn't see any of those three
players out there. Illness for Titus Howard and get a

(01:59:28):
quick update from Tamiko Ryans on that same thing with
the oblique for Derek Stingley Junior. Hamstring injury for Yakub Johnson.
A little interesting just in that he was elevated for
the first two games and then signed before the third
game because they would have run out of standard elevations
for that individual player had they not done that. Jake
Andrews and Nico Collins also saw them out there. They

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went through for what we got to see was normal
routine practice for them, but listed as limited in both
cases a knee injury for Nico an ankle situation, which
obviously what Jake was dealing with for the most part
before he returned last week and took egory single snap
at center quickly. Demiko on the two injuries I mentioned
of greatest significance, No offense, but the not practicing and

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being starters is of significance on Demiico on Derek Stingley
Junior and Titus Howard Dean.

Speaker 9 (02:00:20):
Didn't go today's things, still dealing with his oblique injury.
He's still day to day. Titus has had an illness today,
Hopefully we'll see him out there tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (02:00:28):
So what I would assume an illness usually again it
am not a doctor, and I don't know much about
his individual case, but an illness on a Wednesday most
often does not impact your ability to play on a
Sunday for an NFL team with all that they have
access to.

Speaker 7 (02:00:41):
Derek Stingley Junior.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
I said earlier, My best guess is he'll be listed
as questionable on Friday's status report and will probably be
a game time decision. It's possible if this were a
game out of town, they would even say on Saturday
he did not accompany the team if they already know
he's not going to play. But otherwise they get the
option of this simply waiting until ten thirty and letting
you know whether he's inactive or active. But there's probably

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a little bit more thought going into this because it
happened in Week one, been dealing it with it through
the last two games, aggravated it enough that he only
had fifteen snaps of work on Sunday, and their off
week is now close. They're playing Tennessee on Sunday, They're
playing Baltimore the following Sunday, and then their off week
comes after that, So an extended period off the field

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would present itself if he does not play this week,
does not play against the Ravens, then the additional week
off without missing a game would be staring at him. Obviously,
he's pretty vital to this team. I don't think they're
in a very good situation slowing down the Lamar Jackson
passing game without him out there. But we'll see what
it ends up being. We'll get more into that next week.

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What else they had to say of consequence about where
things stand with this team. It's really all CJ all
the time. But it's not just one item.

Speaker 7 (02:01:58):
CJ.

Speaker 6 (02:01:58):
Stroud's performance so far this season and CJ. Gardner Johnson's
place on this team for three weeks, he no longer
holds one. Start with Demiko on CJ Stroud, the too
obviously talk every week, if talk to get in advance
of getting out on the field and going through their
preparations for the Tennessee Titans. Demiko o Ryans on his
quarterback CJ Stroud.

Speaker 9 (02:02:17):
Meeting CJ this week. Man, I feel like he's in
a really great spot mentally clear, mind understanding like I
had I gotta play better, right. He understands that, and
that's the first step to making strides and getting better
is understanding and admitting like, hey, I know I have
to play better so the team can be better.

Speaker 7 (02:02:35):
Let's go.

Speaker 9 (02:02:36):
So I'm excited to see him press forward, go play better,
excited to see everybody around him play better as well.

Speaker 6 (02:02:44):
Kind of obvious, but recognition and acknowledgment and self assessment.
There's no way he comes out of these games and thinks,
if I just get some protection, it's all good. Like
he knows he's not playing well. And it's not only
because of that. It's definitely a factor of foot comfort
and breathing down, your neck comfort and when is the
rush getting here comfort or lack there?

Speaker 15 (02:03:04):
Up.

Speaker 7 (02:03:05):
Yeah, but he's.

Speaker 6 (02:03:05):
Not playing like I know he can, even in spite
of all those things.

Speaker 7 (02:03:10):
It's not as simple as just or I guess it's
not as limited to being just as simple as you
should probably put together a good offensive line to protect
your franchise quarterback because he can play better if you
do that. It's also the ability to avoid some of
the stuff from a mental standpoint that can come with

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having happy feet, having your brain scramble at whatever you
want to call it. I never thought that, like David
Carr getting sacked seventy six times, his rookie season. That's
why he didn't play well the rest of his career.
He wasn't a good quarterback. He came from Fresno State,
he was not. He just never like they should have

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taken Julius Peppers. But I'm not getting into that right now. Like,
he just didn't scream franchise quarterback from day one.

Speaker 6 (02:03:59):
In my opinion, he didn't scream this sucks. I hate
playing this poorly. I'm going to do everything I can
to make sure it doesn't continue. That's that's CJ. That's
the difference. That's the difference. It's just who they are.
And I could be reading it wrong, but I obviously
was there, and I can tell you what I felt.
I can tell you about how much he's time he's

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spent trying to become a better player. I've said it
point blank many many times over. I'm sorry the offensive
line did not do that to David Carr. That did
not happen because of the offensive line play. I will
never shy away from that. I've talked to enough people
that were also around it, much closer to it, like
played with him. So I just don't believe that's the case.

(02:04:41):
And I just think it's totally different here. I just
think every every situation is different, but I think CJ
is different.

Speaker 7 (02:04:47):
Now. CJ isn't okay with any of this.

Speaker 6 (02:04:50):
He's not just going through the motions, give me my
rookie contract, let's get extended, let's get rich, let's have
a foundation, let's move on. It's just could not be
further from the.

Speaker 7 (02:05:00):
And we know that in part because of and that's
why I think this is so funny when I see
some of these same people just talking about how he's
regressed and the slot like they they were some of
these people were the same ones that were just glowingly
talking about that very mentality. You're talking about the fact
that he is so prepared, that he is hard on himself,

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that he came from the background, he came from that helped,
you know, kind of cultivate this mentality that we're talking
about that he carries into his game each and every week.
He does take this seriously. But going back to my
original point, like, that's another reason you don't put a
ragtag offensive line in front of him, because if you
do have a guy like that that's cut from that cloth,

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why wouldn't you do everything to help him be successful.

Speaker 6 (02:05:46):
At a very early a point. We got to get
to the heart of the problem. The problem is they
don't know how. They're not blind. They do know this.
They know the offensive line play was not satisfactory last year.
They just don't understand how to fix it enough already
they made all sorts of changes. They just don't know
what the right ones are to make. They've been evaluating

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offensive lineman ever since they walked into the building Nick
and his personnel staff, and they keep getting it wrong
because they're bad at it. They're bad at evaluating talent
or a matching talent to the coaching staff. I can't
even believe this is true. Yesterday I posted something about
win rates on the offensive line defensive line the trench work.
ESPN Analytics puts that out every single week. Titus Howard

(02:06:30):
second among offensive tackles in his I have to double
check whether it was a pass block rate or run
block rate. But the point of my comment is I
was just I don't even know how to say it.
He was trailing one player in the NFL, and that
player actually played against the Texans in Week two and

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he's a former Texan as in he played on the
Texans offensive line horribly. It's Charlie Heck like every possible
and even a guy like there's so many players that
they just miss their evaluation on them, their evaluation on
their technique from their coaches, their evaluation on who they
should hire as their coaches. They haven't had a good

(02:07:13):
offensive line coach in any of the years that Nickosario
has been here, and he has way too much of
a saying who those people are. Christrasser was brought in
for the Demico staff. He lasted two years.

Speaker 7 (02:07:22):
Awful.

Speaker 6 (02:07:22):
They've got another guy in there with way too many
ties to the old school New England Patriots nonsense way
that they keep not saying goodbye to for whatever reason.
That is, everybody else in the NFL knows it doesn't work.
North Carolina probably knows it doesn't work. Tom Brady knows
it doesn't work anywhere else. And the reasons why sometimes
you got to figure it out. But that is the
bottom line. They aren't unaware that the offensive line is

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preventing this team from being better. They're not unaware that
they're making it harder for a clearly talented NFL caliber
starting winning quarterback. They're not unaware of it, and that's
worse because they don't know what they're doing when it
comes to trying to fix it. How many more years
can they not get it right or barely make any

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moves that get it right? Financially too, The way they've
spent on this offense, right line, some of the players
he's traded for and then extended ended, some of the
players he's kept and extended. It's just NonStop. You're doing
it wrong.

Speaker 7 (02:08:21):
So here's my question. Unlike his father who was notorious
for waiting too long to part ways with the wrong people,
if this keeps going, or just like what I was
talking about in the first hour, looking ahead at their schedule,
I know that's ridiculous, but you know what you went
on and three, that's not my fault.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
You did that.

Speaker 7 (02:08:38):
You made me do this.

Speaker 6 (02:08:39):
They're not better than anybody on their schedule, right, they're winless.

Speaker 7 (02:08:43):
Right, but they're not better than anybody coming up on
the schedule. Period.

Speaker 6 (02:08:46):
You can't be that the wins other than this team,
which we still don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:08:50):
That better than them. That's the same number if the
Titans win this week, are you going to be that surprised? Honestly,
dying to say, yes, I know. The point of all
that is is that when Nick Cassario gets clipped because
he's the next in line, right, I don't think you're
not gonna fire to Miko.

Speaker 6 (02:09:04):
I don't think it's in season, but I do think
it is after the season.

Speaker 7 (02:09:08):
And then what happens is very important for this franchise
and specifically for CJ.

Speaker 6 (02:09:12):
Yeah, somebody who might know how to do it right,
they will recognize the problem just the same now as
there's a matter of can you fix it and has
not been fixed yet. It's part of the many problems
they have on both sides of the ball. Heading into
an zero for weekend, the zero's gotta go for somebody,
I hope please don't tie.

Speaker 7 (02:09:29):
Oh my gosh, The age.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (02:09:42):
Eighteen rolls along here on Sports Talk seven ninety By
the way, you should probably not only stay tuned, but
listen carefully to the remainder of the show if you
want to go see the University of Houston Cougar's in
their Houston Blue uniforms as they take on Texas Tech
next Saturday.

Speaker 6 (02:10:01):
Presumably undefeated Houston Cougar's. They have a game between now
and then they play Friday night, late night, nine thirty
kickoff from Corvallis against Oregon State. The Oregon State football
team is not really good. The Cougars have played really
good football so far this season. If yet to turn

(02:10:23):
it over run the ball, well, I definitely believe they
have a very good defense, not just about who they
have played, not the tremendously difficult opening schedule, but I
do think their defense is legit, and I think that'll
play out as they get into the Big twelve. And
I think if you were uncertain that Texas Tech is
for real, thirty four to ten win an under in

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last weeks our college football game of the Week over Utah,
I think helped cement that their defense also probably way
more capable than anybody would have expected before the season began.
Thought maybe there were some improvements, they would be better.
They have been really, really good, and it shapes up
to be two of the teams that would like to
see their seasons head in the same direction. After that

(02:11:08):
game next Saturday night over TDC.

Speaker 7 (02:11:10):
We must never talk about last week's picks. Well, we
have it so far.

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
I told you we'd get the full review of where
things went wrong for some of us last week or
right for some of us. We have a new person
on top of the leaderboard four weeks and twenty selections
into this season, so we will get there on Friday
when we do our stone cold locks for the upcoming week.
It is now Wednesday, so clearly our panel of experts

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has chosen our college football game of the week.

Speaker 7 (02:11:38):
Yeah, well, I didn't have a single over last season,
not once.

Speaker 6 (02:11:42):
Well it only took you four weeks to knock that
out of the park our college football game of the week.
We'll be here on our airwaves, right here on Sports
Talk seven ninety in the afternoon one to get it
all started LSU at Ole Miss. We'll get you updated
on what the line is when we get there on Friday. Currently,
Ole Miss a slight favorite Titans and Texans. Obviously we'll

(02:12:02):
get there on Friday as well. Texans neighborhood of a
touchdown favorite. Not expected to be a high scoring game
for good reason.

Speaker 7 (02:12:10):
And as it pertains to picking Texans games, I actually
thought it was worse last year than it was for me.
None of us, as I recall, did a very good
job of this, and I don't think we're doing a
very good job this year.

Speaker 6 (02:12:23):
Yeah, hard to try to guess how we did last year.
I'll just go to the dock.

Speaker 7 (02:12:27):
Yeah, nine and eight for me. Yeah, you were fine.
I was mediocre. You were above five hundred.

Speaker 6 (02:12:32):
We did someone have with someone Our producer was exactly
five hundred and like I've said many many times over,
I just can't figure it out. I was under five
hundred and the eighteen picks made regarding the Houston Texans
last year and trending in the same way this year.
We're all one and two in the three picks.

Speaker 9 (02:12:47):
How do you?

Speaker 7 (02:12:48):
How are you? How far under five hundred were you?
I was seven and ten and one, and you by
far had more knowledge about them than anybody on the show,
because you're always there's what gives man.

Speaker 6 (02:13:00):
I was bad at it. It was very very bad
at it. Now it was bad at it. It works
out sometimes other times it does not. Plenty of weeks
of football left. It's only week five. Like I said,
we'll to our stone cold locks on Friday four thirty.
Our signature segment. One more thing at least from over
at Texans today. The leader of the football team's your quarterback.
They made a fairly significant locker room change with the

(02:13:23):
exit papers being handed to CJ. Gardner Johnson no longer
part of the team. M J. Stewart will work with
the ones during practice this week, just like he did
for several weeks when CJ. Gardner Johnson was hurt during
training camp and through the preseason, and now we will
be back in that role. They're still pretty light roster
wise at the defensive back field, but they have more

(02:13:46):
than enough to elevate and obviously signed Zion Shoulders today
to the active roster. We'll see if he is active
on game day, but there's some things that they still
can do. Jalen Mills could be an option. Miles Bryant
if I were to guess like I said, I think
because of his positional flexibility, and I think they will
work him at safety quite a bit this week for

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that very reason. Some combination of those players will be
on the field doing all they can to slow down
at Calvin Ridley and the super not potent passing game
of the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 7 (02:14:16):
But CJ.

Speaker 6 (02:14:17):
Stroud obviously had was asked about and had some thoughts
about the release of a CJ. Gardner Johnson his fit
in the locker room and just to who he is
at large.

Speaker 7 (02:14:27):
CJ on CJ, I don't really think I felt like
that or the team.

Speaker 16 (02:14:31):
I mean, I think they have their own reasons, you know,
Nack and Demiko, and you know, I think as a team.
You know, we brought him in and he was part
of the locker room, and you know we everybody was,
you know, all whole teams close. You know, like we
all hang out with one another pretty much. It's sometimes
like defense, offense or DBS, quarterbacks or whatever that would.

(02:14:54):
I thought he did well with his DBS and everything.
So that's not really you know, my my my position
to you know, speak on that. You know, I like
see he as a person. I think he's growing as
a as a as a man. You know, he's trying
to find a relationship with God, which something is dope.

Speaker 7 (02:15:10):
See.

Speaker 16 (02:15:10):
I wish him none but the best, and you know,
I'm gonna always be here for him.

Speaker 7 (02:15:14):
If he ever needs me.

Speaker 16 (02:15:14):
But yeah, I'm always gonna be a fan to him.

Speaker 7 (02:15:19):
That's he's so polite, he's so team oriented. Doesn't point
fingers that That's why this season, if it keeps going
this way, especially he hasn't had that yet in the NFL.
It's gonna be interesting. I'm not and listen, I'm not
saying I think it's gonna happen, but how guys like him,

(02:15:40):
especially in his position, react to that, And if that
taught keeps up, that's gonna be probably the most impressive thing,
because he's already saying things like people are talking crazy
outside of the building. People are saying this, people are
saying that that's tougher to do. Once the losses start
piling up.

Speaker 6 (02:15:58):
Yeah, I think he'll feel the same way, and he
won't really believe it, but I think he'll acknowledge that, Well,
why wouldn't they say that we're on five, we're one
in six, we're two and nine. They can say what
they want because they're right. And I think he will
even kind of present it in a certain way. He's
not gonna say we've accepted it, or we know that,
or we're yeah, we're but the results are what they are.
And that's kind of like the acknowledgment that Demico just

(02:16:19):
talked about. They can't win like this with the way
he's playing, not related to the circumstances under which he's playing,
not related to the fact there's plays they can't call,
not related to the flat fact that he is not
feeling the protection that he needs, only related to how
he's playing. These are the conditions he can play better

(02:16:40):
in them. He knows that he hasn't and I'm sure
he'll be focused on trying to make that happen.

Speaker 7 (02:16:45):
It's easier said than done.

Speaker 6 (02:16:46):
But just even some of the plays that were left
on the field last week, or the easiest wants to
look at. I mean, he did a nice job of
staying in the pocket and looking down the field and
knowing that Christian Kirk could be his man and he
was open basically at the pylon.

Speaker 7 (02:17:03):
He just missed him. And there was a couple other
plays just like that.

Speaker 6 (02:17:06):
Now, some of the other decision making and not putting
Loft on the ball on the one that was intercepted
when he was you know, look at this from a
different way. He has not targeted Christian Kirk all season
because Christian Kirk wasn't there. He targeted him eight times
in that game. They had three connections. I mentioned the
one that they missed that would have been a huge
play and would have set him up with first and
goal inside the five. His initial interception was targeted for

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Christian Kirk, didn't put enough loft on it, and they
may have run a route that brought a defender into
the play that shouldn't have been His second interception, also
targeting Christian Kirk. One of their other missed connections was
on a ball that he completed to Christian Kirk, but.

Speaker 7 (02:17:45):
He didn't get both feet and bounds.

Speaker 6 (02:17:47):
All sorts of They aren't quite yet on the same
page for either the fact he wasn't here last year,
or they missed all that time leading up to Game
one and then through games one and to Those are
things that I'm sure he's looking at, maybe more than
anything else. If I just want to focus on one area,
let's let's get together. Let's figure out where we should
be and what I'm missing, what you're missing. You know,

(02:18:07):
maybe some of these route combinations we've put out there,
then we can get to some of the others. You know,
I definitely had woody marks on a play and I
missed them, and you know they the handoff turned pitch
play to Jalen Nolan when he went in motion that
that could not possibly have been how it was designed.
It worked until it was called back by penalty. But
there are so many things that, as I walk you

(02:18:28):
through it and talk you through, I'm not saying on
this play where he had to scramble, on this play
where he was forced out of the pocket, on this
designed roll out to avoid pressure, I'm not even talking
about those plays. I'm talking about standing in the pocket,
making throws when you actually had one, when you were
comfortable back there, as comfortable as one can be under
these circumstances, granted, But those are plays that he, as

(02:18:50):
a quarterback we think is good, has to make a
little bit more often than he has so far, and
I certainly believe that he will. And maybe this team
that has a sub par pass rush is the team
against whom he could do that.

Speaker 7 (02:19:03):
Why do I feel like, you know, it's Wednesday afternoon,
it's late in the show, We're we're.

Speaker 6 (02:19:09):
Hungry, You're ready to go home, You've got dinner on
the way, You've got to pick something up.

Speaker 7 (02:19:15):
I'm creating pie by the way. I think everybody should
know that it's just a matter of which one I'm
gonna get. But no, I feel like we're gonna come
in here on Monday. They will have found a way
to beat a really bad Titans team, and I won't
feel any differently than I do right now.

Speaker 6 (02:19:32):
Yeah, we'll at around two oh three when we finally
start talking, because we will have played all the Robert
Ford and Steve Sparks highlights from the weekend, and then
we'll play Demiko's we'll see on Wednesday speech after the
victory that they have I mean, then we'll get into
all that.

Speaker 9 (02:19:47):
Right.

Speaker 7 (02:19:47):
No, no Astros will be done.

Speaker 6 (02:19:50):
No, they won't, and the they will have traveled to
Cleveland for Monday's workout.

Speaker 7 (02:19:56):
No chance happening. They're gonna lose tonight and then you
won't be able to se this crap.

Speaker 6 (02:20:00):
Well, in case you missed it, I think the Texans
are going to win and the Astros are going to
the playoffs. And in case you missed it, is also.

Speaker 3 (02:20:07):
Next the Aeed on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:20:17):
Halfway through final hour of the program, time to hit
you with In case you missed it, the Astros Baseball
still a bit away from us, another late night start
with the West Sacramento Athletics nine oh five for first pitch,
Astros at eighty four and seventy three, the Detroit Tigers
an eighty five win team, the Cleveland Guardians at eighty

(02:20:38):
five win team, the Boston Red Sox and eighty six
win team, and the Astros.

Speaker 7 (02:20:44):
Well, they don't have the tiebreaker with any of them.

Speaker 6 (02:20:47):
One of those two Central Division teams will win the
division and be the three seed most likely, and the
other two teams are the ones that currently sit in
front of the Astros, the Central Division team that doesn't
win the division, and the Boston Red Sox. Boston and
Detroit have a season ending three game series. Cleveland and
Detroit continue their series whenever they get out of their

(02:21:10):
weather delay, which they're already in for their early evening start.
Hunter Brown on the mountain tonight for the Astros. Luis
Severino throwing the pill for the Athletics.

Speaker 7 (02:21:20):
We've gotten into in case you missed it.

Speaker 6 (02:21:22):
Undoubtedly some more items that need to be discussed.

Speaker 7 (02:21:26):
What do we have today? Col Lugerius Snead? Who are you?

Speaker 9 (02:21:29):
Budd?

Speaker 15 (02:21:29):
Oh no, but you are not talented enough, in my opinion,
to be able to be answering questions like this.

Speaker 6 (02:21:35):
We'reen asked about going Hotel Nico Collins.

Speaker 17 (02:21:38):
Nico Collins, Oh yeah, who who's that guy that I'm
gonna be facing off against who has been a two
time one thousand yard receiver.

Speaker 15 (02:21:50):
Don't worry, Nico Collins heard about the conversation that was
going on over in Nashville, and you want to respond.

Speaker 7 (02:22:00):
I'm just meeting. I won't say much.

Speaker 6 (02:22:01):
I just play. Understand. You can talk all you want.

Speaker 15 (02:22:04):
You line it up, line up, Let's see what happens
on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (02:22:10):
Alright, Look, trash talk is a part of this game.
Is over.

Speaker 6 (02:22:15):
Texans buy a Billioniously, it's a bulletin board material. It's over.
Wrong move Titans, sneak, It's over. Chalk it up.

Speaker 7 (02:22:26):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (02:22:27):
I mean, come on, owing three versus owing three? When
you think about your matchup with Nico Collins, who ha
ha ha ha ha. All right, thank you guys, Thanks guys.

Speaker 7 (02:22:38):
I'm not even gonna dignify that with a response. What
an idiot.

Speaker 6 (02:22:41):
So he was a big money edition Kansas City. A
couple of years ago. Befrior to last season said all right,
we've we've done enough with him and the money it
would cost us to keep him here. He was a
three year starter there, a very good player, three very
good years. They obviously were very successful, and they said
all right, we can move on from I mean, we
can send him elsewhere. He went to a really bad

(02:23:02):
football team that lost a lot of football games. He
is currently on that same team that is a really
bad football team and is on their path to losing
a lot of games again. But being is that he
is a Kansas City Chiefs defensive back.

Speaker 7 (02:23:16):
I mean he's played against him, No, he hasn't. He's
always hurt. He didn't play last year in either of
the matchups because he had a quad injury, and he
missed a game in twenty two between the Texans and
Chiefs with a foot injury. So hopefully he can make
it to the game and play this Sunday because he's
never played well.

Speaker 6 (02:23:36):
To his credit, he did play in one of the
games against the Texans while Nico was a Texan.

Speaker 7 (02:23:40):
But Nico didn't play in the game. Yes, and it's
a good thing for him, or he would have gotten
torched like he's going to on Sunday now. Now, I'm
that's it. I mean, how would he know? Who? Look
at it took to care about this game ever been
on the field together.

Speaker 6 (02:23:52):
Man, Good for the NFL that finally they've got some
good trash talking from one of the most important games
of the weekend.

Speaker 7 (02:24:00):
I'll tell you what, nothing screams NFL entertainment more than
a guy chirping and another guy on two zero to
three squads who good stuff?

Speaker 6 (02:24:09):
What else do we have today?

Speaker 15 (02:24:11):
You keep talking about the Cleveland Guardians winning the AL
Central and posting the Houston Astros well regardless of whoever wins,
but let's just say it is Cleveland. They're gonna be
without one of their better hitters and David Frye, who
sustained a broken nose and facial fractures last night after
getting drilled with a ninety nine mile fastball a targ
scoobl in the six senning and the five to win.
He goes need help up. He'd expected miss six to

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eight weeks. He was carted off the field quite literally.
They needed to reevaluate his face. The photos do not
do enough justice. But if the Astros do play the
Cleveland Guardians, one of the better hitters, who this past
season was an All Star in twenty twenty four, had
a batting average roughly a round if I'm out mistaken

(02:24:56):
one seventy one minute, started hit a little bit better,
eight home run two oh, ps, he's gonna be off
for the series and more than likely the rest of
the season. Yeah, it was a pretty awful site for
the pitcher. Uh Tarks.

Speaker 6 (02:25:07):
Schoobl reacted extremely quickly, dropped his glove, threw his hands
off over his head, turned his back and walked away
from it. And as he reached out to him immediately
after the game, I believe he's already gone to see
him in the hospital as their series continues, and obviously
School is not going to participate anymore, and as Cole mentioned,
neither is David Fried square around a bunt and the

(02:25:28):
Umps had called it a foul ball shamee vote their manager.
Cleveland's manager said he didn't make any contact with the ball.
It hit him flush, It was not a foul ball,
and it's it was pretty gruesome and pretty tough to
see it. It unfortunately does happen from time to time,
and it will impact their team as well. They seem
to be almost invincible this month for whatever reason, and

(02:25:51):
hopefully they'll be more baseball for Fry to enjoy from
Afar unless they are matched up against the Astros.

Speaker 7 (02:25:58):
I hate to make a joke out of this, not
really making a joke out of what happened to David Frye.
But Astros fans felt like that last night watching that game.
That's when I saw that. And you know, considering we're
talking about one of the teams creating the chaos that
is still making it possible for the Astros to even
have a pulse right now, I just I just thought

(02:26:21):
about where his team is at right now with that
happening to him, and what the Astros have been doing.
You know what, I'm mad at you. I don't wanna
explain why. You know, all those days i'd come in,
I'd be pissed off about some stupid loss the Astros
had bleeped away. Yes, for days like It's for times
like this during the season where they wouldn't be in
this position if they had done that, if they hadn't

(02:26:43):
done that. And that's why it's again I say it
a million times, I'm not built for baseball because of this.
There's so many games.

Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
Have the Astros performed to what you think they should
have considering everything that happened this year, underperform performed to it,
or overperf You.

Speaker 7 (02:26:58):
Could make a strong argument that, given the record amount
of injuries they've overperformed, especially when you look at the
Dodgers record, which isn't that much better than them.

Speaker 6 (02:27:09):
The Astros have eighty four wins, the Dodgers have eighty
eight wins.

Speaker 7 (02:27:12):
That's ridiculous. That's the most twenty twenty five sentence you
could have uttered about the baseball season.

Speaker 6 (02:27:17):
Well, I hope the Padres come back. They're down two
to one in the eighth inning to the Brewers. Because
of the Padres win, they will match the Dodgers with
their eighty eighth win.

Speaker 7 (02:27:25):
And then the Dodgers are gonna be playing for something
when they play the Mariners on the last weekend of
the season.

Speaker 6 (02:27:29):
Certainly shapes up to be that way. Cleveland this month
is seventeen and five, only team in baseball better than
the Mariners fifteen and five. There's also a five for
the Tigers. The Tigers are five and fourteen this month.
I think the worst team in the American League of September.
They are the worst team in the American League in September,
one win worse than the Twins, one win worse than

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the team, and the Astros will finish the season with
the La Angels.

Speaker 7 (02:27:56):
Listen, I'm gonna start the train now.

Speaker 6 (02:27:57):
All better than Colorado, very very early.

Speaker 7 (02:28:00):
I know it's it's maybe ahead of the I want
aj Hinch back here in Houston, and I want it
to happen soon.

Speaker 6 (02:28:07):
Aj Hinch no longer the manager of the Detroit Tigers
with one of the most epic collapses in baseball history,
immediately snatch up and plucked by the Houston Astros opening
head manager.

Speaker 7 (02:28:20):
But if he gets fired over this, which they'd be
stupid to do, but they could. They're the Tigers. Why
not you're asking the wrong guy? Why not you want it?

Speaker 6 (02:28:31):
Don't you tickets to go? See you h in Texas Tech?
And I wrap on the Wednesday program, Well it comes
your way next.

Speaker 3 (02:28:40):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (02:28:52):
It is the eighteen Sports Talk seven ninety Space City
Home Network, final segment of a Wednesday edition of the program.
As you mentioned, and wex before we get to our
ticket giveaway, two more Astros games between now and the
next time one of us is on these airwaves, I.

Speaker 6 (02:29:10):
Will not be on the airwaves tomorrow. I'll be en
route to Corvallis, Oregon, although I won't even get there
until Friday because we're stopping in another city in Oregon
first and staying there. But yeah, one, well, I don't
want to tell everybody what's you know my travel plans.
It's I don't want to give out all that. Do
you think they're gonna do?

Speaker 15 (02:29:31):
Right?

Speaker 7 (02:29:32):
Who knows?

Speaker 6 (02:29:33):
I don't have to ask what I think they're going
to do if they can't do it now because they
have no clue of what my plans are. Be there
for the U of H game Friday night, up and
out on the radio side, the Astros will play a
two thirty five first pitch game tomorrow. You will take
them through the tenth inning show and into the seven
o'clock hour. See what things look like from a standing's

(02:29:54):
perspective then and again, quite simply, if the Astros are
going to the playoffs, then one of the three teams
ahead of them they have to outplay. They got to
outplay the Tigers, they got to outplay the Guardians, so
they have to outplay the Boston Red Sox. All of
the tigers remaining games are against those two teams. There
are a lot of different ways that that's the team

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that's not ahead of them anymore. It could easily be Boston.
If Toronto beat them three times obviously a bunch of
different scenarios, So technically the Astros still control their own destiny.
If they go five and oh, they're going to the playoffs.
They can go to and oh. Between now and when
you just mentioned Thursday, after the final game of the
A's series and into Friday's beginning to the Angels series,

(02:30:39):
we've mentioned we got tickets to send you out to
see the Cougars U of h is welcoming in Texas
Tech next Saturday, that's October fourth. They're gonna be in
their Houston Blue uniforms.

Speaker 7 (02:30:50):
They are sweet.

Speaker 6 (02:30:52):
It's also family night over at TDCU Stadium. If you
want tickets, you can get them Uhcougars dot com, slash
tickets or call seven one three go Koogs now to
get your tickets. Come early, be loud, and where your
Houston Blue. Also, you can win them right here. If
you were listening to the program, you know that somebody

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who plays for an own three football team had something
funny to say about somebody else who plays for an
own three football team, a matchup years in the making
because somehow, despite their teams playing against each other several
times in the last several years, they've managed to not
be on the field together. So what Tennessee Titans player

(02:31:33):
thought to uh open up some bolton board material with
the Tennessee media today an advance of the matchup against
the Houston Texans and wide receiver Nico Collins. What player
on the Titans had something funny, dumb, bolton boardie, cocky,
whatever you'd like to call it to say about his

(02:31:54):
matchup with who? Seven one three two one two five seven.
I'm not asked asking you who? Because that was his
response to it. When I asked about his matchup with
Nico Collins?

Speaker 7 (02:32:06):
What a hint? He said?

Speaker 9 (02:32:07):
Who?

Speaker 8 (02:32:08):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
Yeah, he's matched up with him this weekend, presumably whoever
that might be. I'm sure you guys know a lot
about the Titans, but it doesn't matter if you know
a lot about the Titans you were listening to the show.

Speaker 7 (02:32:18):
That's why we want to reward you.

Speaker 6 (02:32:20):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety will have
more to hand your way on Friday's program. Right here
on the A Team.

Speaker 7 (02:32:30):
Mike has requested something. Adam, if you can see this,
rub your head. Are we is this what we've been
reduced to at this point on the show, we're just
your dancing monkeys. Because now we're on television. Why do
you think he's talking to you? Who do you think
he's talking to?

Speaker 6 (02:32:47):
Your name and my name are equally used right now,
it's already happened.

Speaker 7 (02:32:52):
He took it. I didn't take it. You can do
it too. Took it, he said, Adam, So he could
be talking to both of us for all we know.
You're not going to to our listeners and viewers.

Speaker 6 (02:33:01):
Will you just I'm not one of those pull the
string toys dancing monkeys. Let's you know you're self worth?

Speaker 7 (02:33:11):
What's that little see and say? It's not me?

Speaker 6 (02:33:14):
Yeah, you can't just tell me what to do and
I'll just immediately do it.

Speaker 7 (02:33:17):
It's just natural that I'll do it. That reminds me
since you brought that up Platoon.

Speaker 6 (02:33:25):
I brought up Platoon, remember when he I don't want
to Really, you're you're bringing Platoon the movie up?

Speaker 7 (02:33:31):
For what?

Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
How did we How could you possibly get there? It's
a scene that Charlie Sheen is was he whimpering? No,
Chris Taylor, He's using his He's using his firearm. Okay,
why I don't want to go into the details. Was
he successful, I think, and that's the point in wartime
when you're using your file arm.

Speaker 7 (02:33:50):
Not that it wasn't used in that way. No one
was being injured. Okay, I only bring that up. Have
you seen that documentary yet?

Speaker 6 (02:33:58):
I haven't seen anything related to Charlie Sheen at all
except the very very very very beginning of a clip
posted all over social media and the caption that went
with it that included the number forty seven thousand, the
Wilt Chamberlain like Notmber.

Speaker 7 (02:34:14):
Okay, okay, now it's clicking. Really, I thought you were
a fan like you're. I know you love Major League.
Yesterday was what? Tuesday? Uh huh?

Speaker 6 (02:34:23):
I mean I did have some time to kill before
the game started last night. The night before that was what?
That was Monday, Monday night football.

Speaker 7 (02:34:30):
It usually worked. So I mean, when one am I?

Speaker 9 (02:34:33):
What?

Speaker 6 (02:34:33):
When am I supposed to watch a documentary during football,
baseball and soon to be basketball season. I got a
tarbout time to not be doing sports.

Speaker 7 (02:34:40):
See. Well, I know that you sleep even worse than
I do, and I'm pretty sure that I watched it
Monday night. It was either Monday night or Sunday night
after the night game, the football game. Well, you say
it's a document ic, What's why?

Speaker 6 (02:34:52):
Why is there a documentary on Charlie Sheen Because he's
living it lived an incredible decadent crazy how are you
still with us life?

Speaker 7 (02:35:01):
It's kind of yeah, okay, it's center around I think
he's seven years old.

Speaker 6 (02:35:04):
Best person in the documentary that they talked to that's
not him, Come on, his.

Speaker 7 (02:35:10):
Dad, No, his brother. Neither of them spoiler alert, Emilio
and Martin declined to participate. That's why I really don't
know who to guess.

Speaker 6 (02:35:19):
Denise, there you go, Okay, I do know who to guess.

Speaker 7 (02:35:23):
I can't believe. I mean, look, we all get older
and all that kind of stuff, like.

Speaker 6 (02:35:27):
Like our people that he was on his long running
sitcoms with involved.

Speaker 7 (02:35:31):
John Cryer looks like me.

Speaker 6 (02:35:33):
Now, what about the Spin City people?

Speaker 7 (02:35:36):
Any of them? They do talk about that, although nobody
from the cast is uh interviewed.

Speaker 6 (02:35:42):
Did anyone speak but declined to be recognized?

Speaker 7 (02:35:47):
No, okay, you're either on the record or you're not. Okay,
but yeah, I'll tell you. What I wasn't expecting was
to see a nice long set of interview clips from Heidi.

Speaker 6 (02:35:58):
Flice the what was I was about to say? I
couldn't remember what she was known?

Speaker 7 (02:36:07):
And you know the background probably.

Speaker 6 (02:36:09):
Given the choice of giving other names up or.

Speaker 7 (02:36:11):
What was rolling on her? Or doing some time? What
did he do? He rolled on her? What happened to her?
She did some time? For what she was?

Speaker 9 (02:36:20):
Mad?

Speaker 7 (02:36:21):
Yeah, she's very good at it. Frowned upon, she actually
says at one point, how did I screw up the
best gig in America? I wouldn't call it that.

Speaker 6 (02:36:28):
We do have a nightcap coming your way, so plenty
of excellent conversations still to come. But had to ask.
I know how things are going. Hunter Brown is pitching
tonight and they've lost a ton of his recent starts.
And why though he's pitched really really well, really especially
why in those cases so.

Speaker 7 (02:36:48):
The win, they can't score. Therefore they can't win.

Speaker 6 (02:36:52):
They make a case, will they start their rise?

Speaker 7 (02:36:56):
They are getting swept? Oh my god, look at this
reverse college You going, guys, what sucks? I mean, if
they you can tell me I'm wrong and it'll be fun.

Speaker 6 (02:37:06):
I can't wait to do that. When when you're wrong,
whenever you're wrong. Monday, after the Seasons they win again.
They aren't getting swept, so you'll be wrong as soon
as that happens.

Speaker 7 (02:37:14):
Unless they do. We got a night cap for youa cole.

Speaker 6 (02:37:17):
Have that for you this evening, Astros baseball, tonight, Astros
baseball tomorrow afternoon, and we'll talk to you again, real
real soon.

Speaker 1 (02:37:26):
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