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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Down down.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Eighteen minutes past. I'm Jim Rome. See, I can't hear
this and not think of that and then I have
to go into it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's because you're different than me.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's exactly right. Welcome to the eighteen.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We are joining studio right now by a man who
has covered Houston sports for a long time. His name
is Adam Wexler. Wex tell me about the Houston Texans
right now. They are hurting, they are down bad, and
Texans fan is gripping.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
First of all, thanks for the vine, Jim.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He has not changed his show in like twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's the same exact thing, even.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Though it has changed many times.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's the only thing. Yeah, that's the only thing.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
In all seriousness, if Jim Rome was doing this segment,
that's kind of how it would start. But I do
think that that's where a lot of Texans fans yesterday
that were wailing and gnashing their teeth that the uh,
the current general manager didn't make any moves.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I think that's a
little much like.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, here's here's why I think it's different than last year.
And I thought last year was kind of like we
looked at it sideways a little bit, and then we
heard his press conference and it didn't exactly help things
the way he was kind of addressing it, at least
the way he was coming off, even if he didn't
mean it to sound the way it did.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We played the audio yesterday. I think this.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Year because you thought they would do more to address
the deficiencies and then they really didn't. And then we've
seen how the season has gone. And again earlier today
I saw someone talk about how close all.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
These losses have been.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well, if I'm not mistaken, the trade deadline would have
fallen after they played nine games last year just after Halloween.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Okay, and that was the Jets game, right.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That was their ninth game. Yep, they would be six
and three at the time.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It was a Thursday night game, so they would.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Have been attempting to get even better, have an even
better position in the division and in the post and
in the AFC, et cetera. Whereas this year, should they
have been buyers? Are you sure? Should they have been sellers?
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think they're.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Three and five, I know, and that's not awful, and
their quarterbacks hurt, but it's not good. But I think
that just not doing anything strikes me as almost indecisive
in a way on the organization's part. Yeah, I don't
view it that way at all. I didn't expect them
to make a move. I didn't think there was going to
(02:54):
be a player that would be worthwhile to go get.
Is that why you didn't expect them to make a move, Well,
because you didn't think if there was anybody worth making
a move for for what it would cost to get
a player. What are you trying to do? If you're
the text, you're trying to get significantly better? You're three
and five? Who is that player?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Were they trading for Sauce Gardner to watch Kamari Lassiter
and Derek Stingley Junior play?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's not who they need.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Were they trading for Quinn Williams to watch Sheldon Rankins
and all their other defensive tackles play. Okay, were available, right,
So who are these other players? They're just not good
enough to make this team better.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You're naming players that were clearly available because they moved
to different teams. They they happened to play almost exclusively
on the defensive side of the football. A lot of
those players you named, So that's not something that Texans needed,
But that doesn't mean that there weren't necessarily.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
There were running backs being of There were running backs available. They,
like every team that talked to the Jets decided the
price they were asking for Breeze Hall was too high,
so he did not get traded, even though he was
definitely being offered and definitely being negotiated around by GM
to their GM, and they just never came to an agreement.
Texas were just one of se teams. There was a
wide receiver that was moved, and I don't think the
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Texans were in the market for Rashid Shaheed and he
went to Seattle, and there were a lot of teams
interested in supplementing their wide receiver group. I think Seattle
was smart to be the team that was able to
pull that trade off. There was an offensive lineman moved.
He went from one of the worst teams in the
NFL to a team in dire straits on the offensive line.
Quite honestly, just from this past Sunday, you could argue
(04:26):
that Texans are in dire straits. There's a real possibility
the group that finished the game on Sunday isn't even
the group they can start the next game with, because
I don't know what the status of Ed Ingram will be.
You could see Blake Fisher and Tay Hersery at tackle.
You could see Juice Scrugs and Lake and Tomlinson both
starting at guard, and Jake Andrews in the middle protecting
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Davis Mills and handing off to Damian Pierce. Everything I
said is an absolute possibility as I sit here on Wednesday.
How does that sound? It sounds awful, but it could
be reality when they get to Sunday at noon.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, and I think that you know what you were
talking about with some of the players like a Damian Pierce,
Like even if you're not if you're not making a
move to get better, i e. Bringing another player in
that kind of thing, then wouldn't it have made sense
to at least since some of those players that aren't
doing anything for you and aren't figuring in the future
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out to try and get better in other ways.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But with draft picks, even if they're low. We found
out today Nick Chubb wasn't practicing. I imagine Nick Cassario
probably knew that yesterday before the deadline. If Damian Pierce
had been traded the last several weeks or yesterday, they
would have had two tailbacks at practice today when at
other times of the year they have five. You don't
go into games with two tailbacks, you really you Sometimes
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you can go into a game with three. That's what
they've been doing. It's it's a little light. If you
have the fullbacks or other guys that can carry the football,
you can make it work, but they might have to
make it work at tight end. You shouldn't have to
make it work. And Christian Harris got hurt. The players
that weren't making a big difference, and we're playing an
exceptionally low snapcount if even active in Harris and Pierce,
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either the time had already passed where you really were
in a good position to move them and you just
adjust now if they had already been moved, or now
you're just not in a Who's trading for Christian Harris
when he's not healthy? And how could the Texans move
on from Damian Pierce if there's any possibility. For all
I know, Nick Chubb said today's practice out for personal
reasons or for rest, then there's nothing wrong with him.
I don't know that at this point, but I do
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know that they you know, they went through a Wednesday
practice usually lighter than Thursday, and Thursday is usually much
more strenuous than a Friday practice. So I just don't
know the status of it. But you know, the things
you might want to do are limited when you have
so many players not available to you.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, but again going back to not doing anything at all,
do you think do you did you expect that to
be the case because the players weren't available in your
mind that would have helped the Texans, or because you
didn't think that Nick Cassario was going to send out
some of these players we talked about, like Damian Peace
saying out.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Any of those players doesn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
This better be good.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
CJ Stroud will be out this week, according to Mika Ryans. Okay, yeah,
he just started talking to the media and figured they
would have that information already, and it was nice to
have him give it to us already expected and I'm
glad it hopefully will be give CJ time to get better.
But this doesn't doesn't really tell us anything about the
long term future, even week to week. But we know
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that Davis Mills is in front, and that's another thing.
I was watching for at practice, and obviously with the
transactions they made a bunch of them. Today, they don't
have a third quarterback at all period, on the practice
squad or elsewhere they're going to go into this game,
it looks like, and they could still sign somebody obviously
Thursday or Friday, heck even Saturday if they want, They
could go into this game with Graham Mertz and his
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knee brace as the only other available quarterback. He is healthy,
and he's obviously been cleared to play, and he's been
on the roster the entire season but has not played,
has been the third emergency quarterback every single week. They
don't have a practice squad quarterback. They literally have nobody
else here on the roster, all sixty nine players deep.
So I'm a little surprised in that he's never played
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before and he's next in line, and he's, like I said,
coming off a pretty significant knee injury that ended his
college career. So just something to keep in mind as
they move into the week, and we'll see if there's
anything else divulged about some of those other players. Certainly
it'll be divulged at least when the injury report is released,
although that will not be for several hours. Texans have
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dealt with this before and Davis Mills was the again
the answer, if you're being literal, who starts when he's hurt? Well,
Davis Mills does. Is it a real answer? Is it
helping this team win football games? There's a pretty big
drop off, and I don't know that we talked about
it enough because CJ didn't engineer touchdown drives during the
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only three eight drives that he was on the field for.
But the offense was The offense was fine for those
three drives, absolutely fine. They didn't punch it in because
they have a weak run blocking offensive line and their
ocean head coach were bullheaded. I don't think they were
going to have trouble moving the ball against the Broncos.
(09:15):
I don't think it was gonna be quite like them
playing against the Niners. But all of a sudden, you
couldn't move the ball because you didn't have your quarterback anymore.
It made a humongous difference. And on top of it,
I don't think Dave's Mill played particularly well. Had he
played well, there still would have been a drop off.
That's why is the backup Maybe this week will be
a little bit different because he gets all the reps
at practice. I don't think it'll be a tremendous amount
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of difference. What will be different is they're playing the
Jaguars defense, who's okay but not nearly as good as
the Broncos defense.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No, I mean that's the only But going back to
what I was saying, that it might not be the
only week that he misses. I think who they play
the next week has a lot to do with that.
Like if he probably could go and it was not
an ankle injury, I know that, But I'm saying, like,
if the Titans are coming to town and he could
(10:09):
probably go, but it'd probably be best for him to rest
because it's already been one week, and there's like that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They don't really do that with concussions. You don't think
it's more cut and dry, like either he can either
he passes protocol or he doesn't. I don't passed. The
team doesn't. On top of that, say, but he's our
franchise quarterback. I'd rather be I'd rather take another week off.
Do you think they do that?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I yes, And here's why I don't think anything's off
the table. When it comes to concussions in the NFL,
because I never think we've gotten a straight answer from
anybody associated with that league about this subject.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just don't, well, what kind of answers are we missing?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, I just think that they never they've never been
held accountable for half the stuff that they used to do,
and now that it's supposedly a concern of theirs.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
We're just talking about the protocol.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know, but there I mean, you can't tell me
there's been times where even in today's NFL there was
a quarterback passed the concussion protocol, but he still probably
has some after effects.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Maybe it's dizziness, maybe it's symptoms.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Are you hypothetically referring to CJ. Stroud when he ran
over to the tent and he jumped over the bench
and he was trying to give every impression that I
don't even need to go in there, and they had
the officials took him off the field.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think in that situation, we've seen game day versions
of that might not have been handled the way it
should have been.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's just one example of one that's because we
saw it right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Anything that happens behind closed doors obviously it's purely speculation,
but I have to believe with the investment in CJ
that leans towards what you're saying. You know that the
doctors can say, look, he's no longer like sense whatever,
he's no longer this, and he can do that, and
he's gone through practice and he's passed all these tests
and he's not suffering from any of the symptoms. So
he has completed the concussion protocol and from our end,
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the medical side, he is cleared. And then the team says,
and specific to CJ, this is not concussion number one.
It could be concussion number eight, but we know for
a fact he's missed time, he's been NFL concussion protocoled
before and missed games because of it. So I do
think their treatment of him might be a little bit different.
(12:11):
But you only have so much time in a season,
You only have so many years of this, you only
have so many games to recover from whatever your record
is my best guess and total speculation. If CJ clear's
concussion protocol in advance of whomever they play, that's the
game he returns in. Yeah, can they beat the Titans
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with Graham Mertz? Probably? But if he's out of concussion
protocol before the Titans game and the trip to Nashville,
then I think he'll start.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Who's the worst quarterback you could start against the Titans
and still feel confident you're teams.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean, you could probably get case Keenan back over
here and beat them.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm talking about any team, not just the Texans. They're
so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They got two gift touchdowns a week ago and still
didn't come with it, you know. I mean it was
a one score game. If you want to put that
in your Titans cap.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out for two
weeks just because of that. I thought it just me
being the doctor on the radio, I thought it looked
like a very, very bad concussion. And there is such
a thing as different variating or very variation forms of
concussion in their severity, so that factors into a lot
of it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
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