October 21, 2025 • 11 mins
Wex and AC react to the embarrising offensive performance from the Houston Texans in a 2719 loss against the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field. Is the writing on the wall that change is coming to Houston's front office to fix thre franchise in 2026?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I actually heard a listen. You're on social media right,
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, probably the most active they've been the entire season,
maybe during the entire run of Debiko Ryans and c
J Stroud. People like winning, and people like to jump
on board, and they like to tailgate, and they like
the good vibes and everything's cool. People despise losing much
much more, and they are ticked off they lost.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes, that's the problem here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, losing is fine, right, losing the way that your
team performed for I mean I could talk for four
hours straight, you could take the day off, no breaks,
no commercials. It's like the easiest thing ever because it
was so embarrassing in.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So many ways. Oh, that's why I don't want to
talk about it. Look, I get we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's so funny that we're so different.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Like I couldn't to get in here and talk with
our listeners about this. It's like so enjoyable to hear
from their perspective, give my perspective, tell you. It just
is like I couldn't wait, Not that I want to
talk about it for four hours, because as you said
to me off the air, dude, the rockets are playing.
The Rockets gave us something last year, and unfortunately, seven
(01:05):
games later it was gone. We thought something very very
exciting was on the horizon, and it is, but the
horizon lasted a little longer than I want to get
past that. I want to go over the rainbow and
see the pot of goal there. You got to the
rainbow last year, and I think the idea that the
Rockets are going to do something big is well worth
believing in. Not blind faith, not Oh look at the
(01:28):
home for the Rockets acting like the Rockets are going
to be good this year. No way, you don't. I
really don't think it's like that at all. It doesn't
mean they're going to win to tight. It doesn't mean
they're better than the Thunder. It doesn't really mean anything
except they have a chance. They have a roster and
a coach and have put the team together and what
we believe makes sense the right way in in a
(01:51):
way to compete with everybody in the West. They're doing
it their way. The Rockets have done it their way
and obviously started to the very very very very bottom
and arrived here three awful years.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And here they are.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Three awful years for the Texans I'll say the exact
same phrase, and here they are in a little bit
different way. Three years of bad basketball for the Rockets,
and here they are three years of bad football for
the Texans, and here they are well.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And that is where me and you differ. It's not
that I don't want to talk about the Texans, but
my problem is, and this is what happened. And you
and I were doing the show, and you remember this vividly.
I know you do, because you have that photographic memory
unless it's a year, and then you just completely if that.
If it's that or geography, you just completely check out.
Other than that, though, you have a very very I
(02:40):
know you have a vivid memory of me coming in
here after the latest just embarrassment, not even we're not
even running our organization like a real NFL team, and
I'm just like, look, let me know when you do that.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And that's where I was.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And then they did it almost overnight, and this is
I was reading about.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I read somebody write.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
This about Demiko Ryans over the last few hours, and
I don't remember who it was because this is in
the middle of my scrolling, and I'm add and that's
how I do things. But it was like, you know,
Demiico did change the culture almost overnight, and they did
get the quarterback, and they did. But I feel like
a broken record because that offense. And we'll get to
Nick Kyley, because that's a new that's a new little
(03:23):
subplot of this same sad tale playing with their arm
tied behind their back, whatever metaphor.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You want to use.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'm like looking at that defense last night and I'm like,
you cause four turnovers and.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You lost by double digits. That's so unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Whatever. Man, they've had a five interception game.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You're right, that was last year.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But at least at the end of that season, when
that game happened, you had you were on the on
the right side of five hundred and you went to
the postseason.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I got news for you, guys. Texans aren't making the
playoffs this year. It's not happening.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's too much road to climb, there's too much of
an uphill battle. And you can argue with the wall
whoever you are, because I'm not gonna hear any scenario
in which unless everybody in front of them has massive
catastrophic injuries, particularly to their quarterbacks, you're not going to
beat any of those teams you need to to get
(04:16):
to postseason play with that crappy offensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Because this just in.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
When you play a plausible, not an elite like last night,
a plausible NFL defense, you are cooked. Before the kick
is even up in the air, You're done.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, six games played for those teams are above five hundred.
They've all beaten the Texans, all sadly because of last
night's late going in one score games and two games
against teams that stink. There's only five teams in the league.
We're seven weeks into the season. There's five teams in
the league that have fewer wins than Houston, only five.
Only five teams have one win or fewer. The Texans
(04:51):
have two of those five teams. Guess where the texans
two wins come from. Yeah, a win against two of them.
They've beaten Baltimore and they've beaten Tennessee. Is long is
You're not a one win team or to Rod Taylor's team,
You're beating the Texans and that's all that they have
on their schedule other than their remaining game with the
one win Titans. So you gotta let me know when
(05:13):
a team that has a pulse is going to lose
to Houston because it hasn't happened so far this season,
and quite honestly, if you take it back into most
of last year it hadn't happened, then either beating the
Chargers would stand out.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It did.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Most of the other Texans wins over their last well
regular season games, I think, over the last fifteen games.
If you're pathetic, really pathetic, the Texans will beat you.
If you have a pulse, you got it. It's a
w for you, and they'll go back to the drawing
board and probably tell us how close they are after
a lot of that from last night. Certainly a number
(05:49):
of different areas that they gave that game made that
game too easy for Seattle. Seattle is a good team,
but they obviously did some things that could have produced
a victory if they didn't do a billion other things
that cost them a victory, and we'd like to highlight
each and every one of those over the course of
the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We do know where it all starts.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And I can't believe that nick Sea was the first
one you brought up, but I guess since they played
a game that makes sense. But we all know the
reasons that they are where they are, and it's the
same problem over and over again. You can change ocs,
you can change the quarterback, you can change who's calling plays.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You can get new wide receivers, you can change the
running back, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But if the same person is in charge of getting
talent for the offensive line and it's just got awful
at it, you're not going to fix the problems. So
the problems are not fixed. The problems have been long standing,
and they have a lot to figure out in order
to get there. And I say figure out, meaning the
people in charge of making this team what it is,
very very very unlikely to be in that same position
(06:47):
when we sit here a year from now, or when
we sit here entering the twenty twenty six off season. Again,
that's big picture stuff. I need to break down a
lot of the individual things that we're talking about here
exact actally went wrong. What personnel groups made no sense
to be out there. What glaring avoidable mistakes and there
were a lot of them that the Texans made in
(07:08):
last night's game.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Shouldn't be happening to a.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Team that tries to tell us they're good that tries
to pretend when they go to practice every day that
they are good. If you practice those things, if you
had accountability, if this was not an undisciplined group, which
it clearly is, then they wouldn't happen. And we know
where that all starts. And it sounds like it's harsh
for you know, one guy to control all that and
he can only do so much. But as he will
(07:32):
tell us, I'm sure today in about twenty minutes when
he meets via zoom, it all starts with me. It's
and that's what Tamiko will say. It's what all head
coaches say. But it has to get fixed. And that's
what obviously didn't happen in last night's game.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
For us.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
At two thirty, we're in a talk Rockets basketball. Danielle
Lerner talked to her yesterday briefly over at Texans practice,
just before she joined the Rockets in Oklahoma City, the
Rockets beat writer for the Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
She is there.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
She will join us at two thirty to set the
table on what will be an absolutely delicious feast of
basketball delivered by the Houston Rockets this year.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, no, I can't wait. I really am I mean,
I'm not playing it up. I'm very very excited. I
was excited yesterday because it meant the week had begun
of us talking about this Rockets, and of course because
Katie's locked up, I knew he was gonna be but
it was nice to actually have it done.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Tarr Eason not that is still something.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's kind of like it's gonna stick in the back
of your head all season because you don't know how
it's going to turn out now, because you could have
a team that goes and gives him a bunch of
money and you aren't comfortable matching that, and so he's gone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But why would they give him a bunch of money
because he's good, because he helped you have a really,
really good season, and then you deal with that after
Danielle was there in Oka. See when Tarry Easton met
with the media earlier today, did you see us a
little of that so we'll get her thoughts?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Did you see people making something of nothing? Probably about
I know that happens all the time. Deliver so that
the social media team for the Rockets is fantastic. All
the social media teams in town do a great job.
But I'm not it's not because I'm biased. I just
think the Rockets they're all fire. They are all fire.
That is how you hashtag Astros. Keep that in mind
(09:12):
when you come up with next year's slogan, because Built
for this ended up being very, very bad.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But they're just very.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Good about being hands on with everything that team does.
So they're all getting on the charter and everybody's smiling
except for Tari. As somebody put it, I thought that
was hilarious. He's never smiled, but in that setting, that's
who he is.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
You know what, you remember last year when we were
at that I think it was the Corporate Partners event,
and he got up and he introduced everybody and it
was the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It was like stand up, you had to be there.
I know it's a little inside boostball, but he's he's
very very good, and I do agree with you. I
think that he will do that. And then it's just
gonna be whether or not that contract offer that gets
made out there by whatever team is too rich for
the Rocket. It's blood on an off season where they're
likely giving him and Thompson a crap ton of money.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Also, means they might have some alternate plans on how
to accommodate their team as well as they can, considering
he may again, that's so far off in the disc again,
a full eighty two game season plus postseason before we
get to that point. So we will get to that point.
Ryan Hollins visited the station via the airwaves earlier today,
so we will check in with him Space City Home Network.
(10:24):
Not with tonight's game in there, Well, why would you
send him there?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I was thinking about that. We'll talk about that in
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's the kickoff to the tip off to the entire
NBA season, so one of the new networks has that game.
First game on Space City Home Network. Our second game
here on Sports Talk seven to ninety is the home
opener coming up on Friday. But we'll visit with Ryan
Hollins or catch you up on his visit with Matt
Thomas coming up about two hours from now. But clearly
(10:51):
we have a lot to get to. Clearly, there were
some good things last night. They just didn't necessarily come
directly from Houston. They came from Houston through Toronto, and yeah,
it was pretty clear that people were enjoying that, and do.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Have a baseball had a passport?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Do have a team to root for in the upcoming
World Series which about to get underway in three days
across the border in Toronto, the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.
We just get started here on the A Team on
a Tuesday NBA opening night.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Here on Sports Talk seven ninety. The A Team on
Sports Talk seven ninety
I actually heard a listen. You're on social media right,
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, probably the most active they've been the entire season,
maybe during the entire run of Debiko Ryans and c
J Stroud. People like winning, and people like to jump
on board, and they like to tailgate, and they like
the good vibes and everything's cool. People despise losing much
much more, and they are ticked off they lost.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes, that's the problem here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, losing is fine, right, losing the way that your
team performed for I mean I could talk for four
hours straight, you could take the day off, no breaks,
no commercials. It's like the easiest thing ever because it
was so embarrassing in.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So many ways. Oh, that's why I don't want to
talk about it. Look, I get we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's so funny that we're so different.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Like I couldn't to get in here and talk with
our listeners about this. It's like so enjoyable to hear
from their perspective, give my perspective, tell you. It just
is like I couldn't wait, Not that I want to
talk about it for four hours, because as you said
to me off the air, dude, the rockets are playing.
The Rockets gave us something last year, and unfortunately, seven
(01:05):
games later it was gone. We thought something very very
exciting was on the horizon, and it is, but the
horizon lasted a little longer than I want to get
past that. I want to go over the rainbow and
see the pot of goal there. You got to the
rainbow last year, and I think the idea that the
Rockets are going to do something big is well worth
believing in. Not blind faith, not Oh look at the
(01:28):
home for the Rockets acting like the Rockets are going
to be good this year. No way, you don't. I
really don't think it's like that at all. It doesn't
mean they're going to win to tight. It doesn't mean
they're better than the Thunder. It doesn't really mean anything
except they have a chance. They have a roster and
a coach and have put the team together and what
we believe makes sense the right way in in a
(01:51):
way to compete with everybody in the West. They're doing
it their way. The Rockets have done it their way
and obviously started to the very very very very bottom
and arrived here three awful years.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And here they are.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Three awful years for the Texans I'll say the exact
same phrase, and here they are in a little bit
different way. Three years of bad basketball for the Rockets,
and here they are three years of bad football for
the Texans, and here they are well.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And that is where me and you differ. It's not
that I don't want to talk about the Texans, but
my problem is, and this is what happened. And you
and I were doing the show, and you remember this vividly.
I know you do, because you have that photographic memory
unless it's a year, and then you just completely if that.
If it's that or geography, you just completely check out.
Other than that, though, you have a very very I
(02:40):
know you have a vivid memory of me coming in
here after the latest just embarrassment, not even we're not
even running our organization like a real NFL team, and
I'm just like, look, let me know when you do that.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And that's where I was.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And then they did it almost overnight, and this is
I was reading about.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I read somebody write.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
This about Demiko Ryans over the last few hours, and
I don't remember who it was because this is in
the middle of my scrolling, and I'm add and that's
how I do things. But it was like, you know,
Demiico did change the culture almost overnight, and they did
get the quarterback, and they did. But I feel like
a broken record because that offense. And we'll get to
Nick Kyley, because that's a new that's a new little
(03:23):
subplot of this same sad tale playing with their arm
tied behind their back, whatever metaphor.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You want to use.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'm like looking at that defense last night and I'm like,
you cause four turnovers and.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You lost by double digits. That's so unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Whatever. Man, they've had a five interception game.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You're right, that was last year.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But at least at the end of that season, when
that game happened, you had you were on the on
the right side of five hundred and you went to
the postseason.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I got news for you, guys. Texans aren't making the
playoffs this year. It's not happening.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's too much road to climb, there's too much of
an uphill battle. And you can argue with the wall
whoever you are, because I'm not gonna hear any scenario
in which unless everybody in front of them has massive
catastrophic injuries, particularly to their quarterbacks, you're not going to
beat any of those teams you need to to get
(04:16):
to postseason play with that crappy offensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Because this just in.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
When you play a plausible, not an elite like last night,
a plausible NFL defense, you are cooked. Before the kick
is even up in the air, You're done.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, six games played for those teams are above five hundred.
They've all beaten the Texans, all sadly because of last
night's late going in one score games and two games
against teams that stink. There's only five teams in the league.
We're seven weeks into the season. There's five teams in
the league that have fewer wins than Houston, only five.
Only five teams have one win or fewer. The Texans
(04:51):
have two of those five teams. Guess where the texans
two wins come from. Yeah, a win against two of them.
They've beaten Baltimore and they've beaten Tennessee. Is long is
You're not a one win team or to Rod Taylor's team,
You're beating the Texans and that's all that they have
on their schedule other than their remaining game with the
one win Titans. So you gotta let me know when
(05:13):
a team that has a pulse is going to lose
to Houston because it hasn't happened so far this season,
and quite honestly, if you take it back into most
of last year it hadn't happened, then either beating the
Chargers would stand out.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It did.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Most of the other Texans wins over their last well
regular season games, I think, over the last fifteen games.
If you're pathetic, really pathetic, the Texans will beat you.
If you have a pulse, you got it. It's a
w for you, and they'll go back to the drawing
board and probably tell us how close they are after
a lot of that from last night. Certainly a number
(05:49):
of different areas that they gave that game made that
game too easy for Seattle. Seattle is a good team,
but they obviously did some things that could have produced
a victory if they didn't do a billion other things
that cost them a victory, and we'd like to highlight
each and every one of those over the course of
the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We do know where it all starts.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And I can't believe that nick Sea was the first
one you brought up, but I guess since they played
a game that makes sense. But we all know the
reasons that they are where they are, and it's the
same problem over and over again. You can change ocs,
you can change the quarterback, you can change who's calling plays.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You can get new wide receivers, you can change the
running back, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But if the same person is in charge of getting
talent for the offensive line and it's just got awful
at it, you're not going to fix the problems. So
the problems are not fixed. The problems have been long standing,
and they have a lot to figure out in order
to get there. And I say figure out, meaning the
people in charge of making this team what it is,
very very very unlikely to be in that same position
(06:47):
when we sit here a year from now, or when
we sit here entering the twenty twenty six off season. Again,
that's big picture stuff. I need to break down a
lot of the individual things that we're talking about here
exact actally went wrong. What personnel groups made no sense
to be out there. What glaring avoidable mistakes and there
were a lot of them that the Texans made in
(07:08):
last night's game.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Shouldn't be happening to a.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Team that tries to tell us they're good that tries
to pretend when they go to practice every day that
they are good. If you practice those things, if you
had accountability, if this was not an undisciplined group, which
it clearly is, then they wouldn't happen. And we know
where that all starts. And it sounds like it's harsh
for you know, one guy to control all that and
he can only do so much. But as he will
(07:32):
tell us, I'm sure today in about twenty minutes when
he meets via zoom, it all starts with me. It's
and that's what Tamiko will say. It's what all head
coaches say. But it has to get fixed. And that's
what obviously didn't happen in last night's game.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
For us.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
At two thirty, we're in a talk Rockets basketball. Danielle
Lerner talked to her yesterday briefly over at Texans practice,
just before she joined the Rockets in Oklahoma City, the
Rockets beat writer for the Houston Chronicle.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
She is there.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
She will join us at two thirty to set the
table on what will be an absolutely delicious feast of
basketball delivered by the Houston Rockets this year.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, no, I can't wait. I really am I mean,
I'm not playing it up. I'm very very excited. I
was excited yesterday because it meant the week had begun
of us talking about this Rockets, and of course because
Katie's locked up, I knew he was gonna be but
it was nice to actually have it done.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Tarr Eason not that is still something.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's kind of like it's gonna stick in the back
of your head all season because you don't know how
it's going to turn out now, because you could have
a team that goes and gives him a bunch of
money and you aren't comfortable matching that, and so he's gone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But why would they give him a bunch of money
because he's good, because he helped you have a really,
really good season, and then you deal with that after
Danielle was there in Oka. See when Tarry Easton met
with the media earlier today, did you see us a
little of that so we'll get her thoughts?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Did you see people making something of nothing? Probably about
I know that happens all the time. Deliver so that
the social media team for the Rockets is fantastic. All
the social media teams in town do a great job.
But I'm not it's not because I'm biased. I just
think the Rockets they're all fire. They are all fire.
That is how you hashtag Astros. Keep that in mind
(09:12):
when you come up with next year's slogan, because Built
for this ended up being very, very bad.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But they're just very.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Good about being hands on with everything that team does.
So they're all getting on the charter and everybody's smiling
except for Tari. As somebody put it, I thought that
was hilarious. He's never smiled, but in that setting, that's
who he is.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
You know what, you remember last year when we were
at that I think it was the Corporate Partners event,
and he got up and he introduced everybody and it
was the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It was like stand up, you had to be there.
I know it's a little inside boostball, but he's he's
very very good, and I do agree with you. I
think that he will do that. And then it's just
gonna be whether or not that contract offer that gets
made out there by whatever team is too rich for
the Rocket. It's blood on an off season where they're
likely giving him and Thompson a crap ton of money.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Also, means they might have some alternate plans on how
to accommodate their team as well as they can, considering
he may again, that's so far off in the disc again,
a full eighty two game season plus postseason before we
get to that point. So we will get to that point.
Ryan Hollins visited the station via the airwaves earlier today,
so we will check in with him Space City Home Network.
(10:24):
Not with tonight's game in there, Well, why would you
send him there?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I was thinking about that. We'll talk about that in
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's the kickoff to the tip off to the entire
NBA season, so one of the new networks has that game.
First game on Space City Home Network. Our second game
here on Sports Talk seven to ninety is the home
opener coming up on Friday. But we'll visit with Ryan
Hollins or catch you up on his visit with Matt
Thomas coming up about two hours from now. But clearly
(10:51):
we have a lot to get to. Clearly, there were
some good things last night. They just didn't necessarily come
directly from Houston. They came from Houston through Toronto, and yeah,
it was pretty clear that people were enjoying that, and do.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Have a baseball had a passport?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Do have a team to root for in the upcoming
World Series which about to get underway in three days
across the border in Toronto, the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.
We just get started here on the A Team on
a Tuesday NBA opening night.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Here on Sports Talk seven ninety. The A Team on
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