Rockets Roll, Stros Make A Call, Caserios Calls Out Joe?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam, raised by Earl Nolan,
multed by the magnificent roller coaster ride that is Houston Sports.

(00:22):
Chill lge down for the only homegrown afternoon team is
Talking Your Teams?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team A.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It is the eight team Sports Talk seven ninety's a
Tuesday edition of the program. Come in as October continues
and so does Major League Baseball's postseason. That was wild,
as was the pick six that Pat Mahomes threw last night.
Just a couple of things on the menu that we
can talk about here on a Tuesday edition of the program.

(01:17):
I was thinking about what you said yesterday, probably in
the first hour, might have been the hour number two,
trying to determine who to root for in last night's
Monday night game. If you're a Texans fan, and I
believe the phrase you use was whoever's playing worse.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
At the time, whatever you think is going to be worse.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
You want them to win? Yeah, well, how do you
feel about that result?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Last night?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Jacksonville is four and one. There are three four and
one teams in the AFC. And two are in the
eight FC South four and one, Jacksonville four and one,
Indianapolis four and one Buffalo and the two teams that
very surprisingly for how these five weeks have gone that
have the very same record the Kansas City Chiefs. After

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last night's loss in the Houston Texans, they're among the
teams sitting at two and three, but tie breakers as
they are right now, that did actually move the Texans
up one spot in the pecking order. They're now ninth
in the AFC Top seven. Essentially we'll make the playoffs.
Texans obviously have the off week this week. Are visits
with the Texans concluded today for the week yesterday, we

(02:20):
spoke with Tamiko Ryans. Today got about twenty six minutes
and forty seven seconds with Nick Cassario, the general manager,
so a couple of things from him will be sprinkled
into the show, including well, not a super informative, detailed
answer about Joe Mixon was the answer on the last ever.
I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think it was.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
It was the kind of update you should have given
every single time. So we'll take what we can get,
but we'll fill you in on exactly what he had
to say on that front, there are a couple of
weeks to go before teams in the NFL is very
different than Major League Baseball. In the NBA, when you're talking, oh, well,
they're definitely gonna be sellers and they're gonna be just
doesn't really work like that in the NFL. There was

(03:03):
a trade today in the NFL. We'll go through probably
before the end of the day. We'll tell you about
that and what the Texans plans might be to improve
what they're doing. The balance we started talking about yesterday,
now hearing it from their angle between how good are
the Texans really playing offensively versus how bad were the
defenses that they were playing against the last two weeks

(03:24):
they won convincingly, not once but twice. They lost by
the hair on their chinny chin chin three consecutive times
to open up the season. Are they better than we think?
Are they not better than we think? All of that
on the table for today American League Day for the postseason,
Like you mentioned, early game about an hour from now,
we'll get to see which of the two teams, the

(03:45):
Mariners or the Tigers. We'll have their backs against the
wall in Game four. That series tied at a game apiece. Obviously,
later on this evening, it could be the end for
the New York Yankees. They trail their series by two
games and it's the best of five, so a third
loss would send them to the showers permanently. In twenty
twenty five and yesterday, on the National League side, nothing

(04:07):
different in the game between the Cubs and the Brewers.
Cubs hit our early first inning home run, and then
the Brewers pounded them into a pulp. The rest of
the evening barely got any hits after the first inning,
and they took a two games to none lead. The
Dodgers miraculously hung on in the ninth inning to win

(04:29):
a one run game and take a two games to
none lead in their series with the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Back to LA after today's off day. So I know
that that's all exciting and well and good. But the
teams that we want to see what lose. I almost
said play, but I meant lose. They played a night
and oh.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, the American League, Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Specifically, Yankee season could end tonight and Will and the
Mariners will be on the brink. We talked about this
yesterday after you left Toronto. V Detroit in the ALCA
is the least painful slash maybe even the most exciting
matchup for Astros fans if you think about it.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I don't think there's any way to dispute it. We
welcome you to try if you like. Hit seven to one, three,
two one two five, seven to ninety a matchup with
the AJ Hinch's team against George Springer's team, noting that
one of them obviously get a chance to win it
all again because one of their two teams will win
if they both advance, and seems like a pretty reasonable
proposition to suggest it. The pitching in the Seattle Detroit

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series has been awesome for the first two games, and
if they get more of the same, maybe that bo's
a little bit better for Detroit back in their home
ballpark for games three and four, and again the Yankees
have to put a little bit of offense together, probably
early in the game and clearly slowed down the Blue
Jays offense, which they were unable to do in either
of the first two games. According to Aaron Boone, the

(05:50):
Shane Bieber that they expect to see as the Shane
Bieber that he thinks was pitching in the Major leagues
before his Tommy John surgery, I would tend to agree
he had a really nice finish to the season and
after in one of the more shrewd moves at the deadline,
you know, Cleveland did not want to wait to see
what their season held and the money that was attached
to it, so they moved on from him, not knowing

(06:10):
the date of his return, not knowing the effectiveness of
his return when he did, and the Blue they took
a chance on that, and he pitched very well for
them down the stretch and they have two games to
none lead. I haven't talked to whole lot of college football.
As we head into this weekend, one of the biggest
rivalry games anywhere in the country has a team that's
unranked against the team that's probably getting their starting quarterback

(06:33):
back after only one game away a forty four tozering
win over Kent State. That's Oklahoma firmly entrenched inside the
top ten and unranked Texas not getting much support for
the top twenty five when in reality they should be
getting no support for the top twenty five. Now got
a handful of votes to still land in the top thirty.

(06:53):
Nobody seems to care about the top thirty. It's nice
when you're a bad team and all of a sudden
you're in the other receiving votes and you're.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like, ay, people have some respect, thanks for us.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's quite the opposite when you began the year, uh,
number one, like the top team in the poll, the
team that more people believed in to be number one. No,
nobody's saying who do they think the best team is
in the country? On August twenty ninth, they're saying who
do they think the best team is in the country?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Period?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Like at the end of the season, like, this is
why I think is going to win at all. That's
why I'm voting them number one. They're three and two
and they're taking on Oklahoma, and we'll see what it
looks like Saturday morning or Saturday early afternoon at two
twenty nine. Some hesitant to get too far into what
the odds makers are saying today, in light of the
potential quarterback situation at Oklahoma, it certainly should play into

(07:41):
that a little bit. And it's obviously our college football
game of the week for our stone cold locks.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh good, I can go oh into six seven.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
As we sit here today, I forget still Where is
the Oklahoma money? Are you guys sitting on it? Are
you waiting until Friday? Take advantage of it?

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I know it's a rivalry game and I can't wait
to say throw out the records, but holy cow, why
is Texas favored? And they've been favored from the jump.
So we'll see if that changes if Materier is firmly
entrenched as yeah, he's returning for Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Even if he isn't.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't really care how poorly Michael Hawkins played against
the Longhorns last year. He's not playing last year's team.
And you can't be too impressed with how the Longhorns
defense played against Florida, pushed around on the interior in
the trenches no matter who had the football. Their O
line was pushed around, their D line was pushed around,
and they ended up eight point shy of beating an
unranked Florida team which just beat them, but is getting

(08:37):
less respect in the polls, which again is why I
try not to talk about it too much.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Shit kind of makes me crazy. Well, okay, you're a
Longhorn guy. In that you're a longhorn.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
You're a Longhorn guy.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
How like is this the most underwhelming matchup between these
two programs.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Are from it. They've had plenty of That's why I
was gonna ask you, like what Oklahoma's honestly, if they
play the way they've shown that they can play, but
they're definitely going to the playoffs. Once you're in the playoffs,
you have a chance to win at all. That's one
of the two teams that's pretty pretty strong. Most people
thought it would be two. Well, I get because quarterbacks,
well Matier, Matier goes out there, comes back after one

(09:13):
miss game after the surgery, and goes out and generates
four or five touchdowns. There won't be any question at
all who the current straw pole pick is halfway through
the season for the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
It will be him. It's not gonna be Arch, let
me tell you that much.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Arch is not gonna be a Heisman Trophy winner while
a college football player.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Which is the only time you can win it. Arch
is not going to be a college football player much
longer at this rate.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Why is he gonna come out early for some reason?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
No, I'm just somebody's gonna find somebody better than him
at to play for the Texas Longhorns.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
He did get replaced to during the game for one play,
and it was a nice play for the backup quarterback,
A nice little completion, a very important one. But like
I said, we will touch on that get into a
little bit of where the Texan should be going. What
do we really feel about what this team has shown
through five weeks, taking some note of what is ahead
of them. I laid that out for everybody on the
socials today with their schedule, reminding you that the first

(10:08):
four games they play out of the gate after this
off week, Seahawks likely playoff team, Niners a four and
one likely playoff team, Broncos a three to two likely
repeat playoff team, and the Jaguars who've lost one game
and just knocked off the Kansas City Chiefs with somewhat

(10:29):
of a miracle drive at the end of the game,
especially when can consider how they scored their touchdown. But
also to note again, I'm not sure if people are
sick of complaining about it because it's happening so often,
they probably should be sick of complaining about it because
it's happened so often. Nice final kickoff, butker after the

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Chiefs took the lead on their own touchdown. He kicked
it out of bounds. Here you go, balls on the forty.
See if you can possibly go sixty yards against this
because that's all you need to do to beat us,
and they did.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah. I have thoughts on last night's game as it
pertains to fantasy as well. Not that anybody cares, but
I'll moan for at least thirty seconds on our show today.
It is a Tuesday edition of the A Team. It's
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
It is the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety two
day edition of the program. Welcome in, Wax and AC
with you leading you up until six o'clock tonight. By
the way, I saw some of the better highlights from
last night. There was a lot of them. This team's
winning the NBA title this year. I'm gonna go ahead
and say it right now.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
The Hawks, Nope, the Rockets, Hawks Dick Jad Davison, Alprin
Shingoon Lad Rockets are headed all the way to the top.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I saw somebody that was like, this guy's way bad
the Hawks. Who is the hawks young up and coming
star that I can't think of his name right now?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Reesa che No Jalen Johnson.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Jalen Johnson, somebody with a straight face was trying to
say he's better than a men Thompson and I fell
out of my chair and after I.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Actually very good. And they missed him for the half
season that he was out for. But he's just a
very he's tremendous athlete, plays way over the rim, is
cultivating the rest of his game. Playing with Trey Young
helps a great deal. As much as Trey Young catches
a lot of strays, he's the active leader and assists
per game, and that's not going He's going to be
that for the rest of his career. He's still very,

(12:39):
very good at making basketball easier for his teammates. They
like to run the floor. He's a perfect fit. He's
not a men Thompson And nobody would be thinking that
other than the person who you were speaking of.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
How does his jump shot look last night? Jalen's no, Amen, Uh,
he was a jump shot. I think he only took two.
Jalen plays for the hot so we can go back
to not caring about him anymore.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, I think he I guess he took maybe three
two threes and I think another with his foot online
maybe looks the same as it did last year except
it went in. I don't care about it. I don't
think he changed what he's doing. And corner threes are
really all that it's about. For alph threes at the
top of the key and nowhere else. If you can
get guys to find the spot where they actually make
them from, then don't mess around with all the other spots.

(13:24):
And teams usually don't have the ability to pick up
on that. But honestly, for me, and you'll hate me
for it, and I can't help it. Exactly what I
was concerned about with Amen Thompson is exactly what happened
in last night's game.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
What were you concerned about?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
He's just basically trying to beat guys off the dribble
from the top and just dribble too much, and he
keeps turning the ball over because he doesn't have the
same handle as a typical point guard.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well as a man who causes so many turnovers, shouldn't
he know better than that?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
He should and he's so good, so he's like probably
dumbfounded when it doesn't work, But that's one part of
his game. And yeah, I'm worried about it because turnovers
from the top usually turn into points because they're runouts
and they're those live ball turnovers. They're hard to combat
and hard to defend because you don't mean you literally
have nobody defending the play. Everything else about him is

(14:15):
just typical awesomeness. No offensive rebound jams, throwing alley oops
to his bigs, and it looks like they I don't
know how they're going to play it during the season.
You never know how big the rotation is. But one
thing that's maybe a little bit underrated about what they
could be doing this year because of one simple personnel
change is the third big, and that's Clint Capella. Now,

(14:36):
Jack Landell served a purpose for this team, but he
can't do the things. Yes, setting picks he can't do well.
He's not nearly as good a pick setter as any
of their three current bigs. He's smaller than all of them.
He's okay rolling off the pick, but once you give
him a ball, then what Then he's going to take
a dribble and try to hit a layup When the
other guys roll, you throw them the ball above the rim,

(14:58):
or you throw it to Steven and he grabs it
like it's tomato and waits for everybody to fall off
of him and then drops it into the basket.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
He was four for four last night because that's all
he shoots, and Clint tries to tear the rim off.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Clint plays above the rim, and way back to the very,
very good player that Nana was for this Rockets team.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I was saying the same thing.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
He's so good at everything, except he's not a really
good fit for what they want to do with their
big because every time he rolls, then what because he
plays below the rim. That's what Jacques Landell did. And
now their third big plays above the rim where I'd
like to think they belong.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Triple biggs. All season long, they had quite a few
double big looks.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Was a nice night for everybody that I think got
out there, all things considered. A couple early threes from
Jabari Smith Junior for those that plan on hitting Wednesday
night's game or listening right here on Sports Talk seven
ninety will mark the debut of Kevin Durant his second
night on the Rockets bench. His first night was last
night in streets as Emy Dooka decided that's the way
they want to play it. This week, Jay Schon Taate,

(15:55):
Dorian Finney Smith unavailable last night, Tarry Easton and Steven
Adams expected to be unavailable tomorrow night, but Kevin Durant
expected to make his debut. First time he showed up
on the big screen after a timeout on the Rockets bench,
there was a noticeable roar from the crowd because for
the first time in two decades, they've been able to
cheer Kevin Durant at Toyota said.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Oh, and they didn't get to they didn't get to
go to any introductory press conference and they certainly weren't
at Media Day. That's the first time these people, these
people were able to see him in the flesh as
a member of the Rockets.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
So yeah, when I got to the arena, and food
comes first, obviously that's how many owe me raising cookies
and none. They were not out come on, man, I
know it's the preseason, but get it together. There were
a handful of things that I'm sure around the country
were very preseason related.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
But he was alight.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
He was out on the court when I got there
right around five thirty, a normal routine for him, going
through a shot routine. When I got out there, a
little bit before six. I'll be a few others were
out there, and click Capella had almost finished all of
his helloes with every single member of the Hawks. He
was the last Rocket on the court after the game
because he was doing more of the same, because you've
just played with almost all of those guys season ago.

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But then Kevin Durant, like the other players who are unavailable,
made his way to the Rockets bench. Tried to watch
who he was talking to during the game and who
he was spending a little time with. Where he was
sitting on the bench, he was right next to the
coaching staff as a matter of fact, so a seat
away from Royale Ivy. He was clearly talking Tim throughout.
And one other thing I meant to mention on the broadcast,
and I don't think we've brought it up here either.

(17:25):
We've talked about it at nauseum. He's back with Steven Adams,
He's back with Jeff Green, He's back with Jeff of Koge.
He's back with Emay, He's back with Royale, He's with GJ. Augustine,
He's with Dexter Pittman. There's so many people that he's
worked with before, and he didn't really name a bunch
of those names the other day at media Dad, but
he said a lot of guys that I've worked with
and been behind the scenes with. Well, one of those
people sits on the Rockets bench every single night. They're

(17:48):
had athletic trainer, doctor Jason Biles, like Emy, he has
USA Basketball team quote unquote coaching experience. So he's another
person that's gotten to know Kevin very well. With Kevin before,
I noticed them talking quite a bit during timeouts last night,
So the familiarity with the Rockets runs super super deep.

(18:08):
Now his familiarity on the court tomorrow will begin. Read
Shepherd and a men Thompson your starter's last night in
the back court, Tari Jabari and Alpi rounding out your
starting five four preseason game one. Unlikely that will be
your starting lineup on opening night, considering KD will be
out there.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Well, I guess if I asked about a men's jump shot,
I should probably ask about the starting point guards jump shot.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
You know, that's one other part of it. Matt and
I talked about it that the starting guards were a
men Thompson and Reed Shepherd. I wouldn't say read Shepherd
was the starting point guard. He rarely ran the offense,
he rarely set things up, but rather he was trying
to do the things as the shooter. He's the shooting
guard when a Men Thompson and Reach Shepherd are out there,
read his running off picks, trying to find openings, driving

(18:53):
into the lane when the opportunity presents, and Amn Thompson
after the first ten to eleven seconds. If he's the one
who's brought up the ball, which he usually was, or
set up the offense so they weren't running, then he
goes and does some of his off ball things. But
there weren't that many times where Reid was just flat
out running the offense. Same thing with when Davison was
out there, same thing when Aaron Holliday was out there.
More of them running the offense and less of Reid

(19:14):
running it. And that's fine if it's the best way
to find him, looks, because it's gonna be tough to
give Reid minutes. He's gonna have to score because what
we saw on the other end of the quart is
what we'll see all year until the Rockets figure out
how to combat it. Who's Read Shepherd guarding? All right,
let's give him the ball and I'm dumbing it down
to the nth degree. But even right out of the

(19:37):
jump at Atlanta Hawk's opening possession of the game, read
Shepherd's not defending Trey Young. Aman Thompson is defending Trey Young,
and read his checking switch somebody else out on the perimeter.
That's a little bit less threatening, And that was Daniels.
He's a much less threatening player. And even he tried
to back him down. Whoever he's guarding, we'll try to
back him down. And these are things this new look

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Sands Red Rockets team, Well, we'll have to figure out.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I checked in with Fred this morning.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh good, and check Fred. I'm pretty impressed. I don't
didn't know what to expect, because Fred and social media
did exist before he got here, and did exist throughout
his first two years.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
He was enjoying the sun roof today.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, most of what he puts out there is really
deep or really family related and not what many NBA
players have out there. Fun, here's men, here's this, this
player's fire. What a great play, all that, And as
he's gone under the knife, he's and I know he
has people with him, creative people behind the scenes, videographers,

(20:37):
et cetera. So I'm sure they're all documenting this for
an even bigger project. But it's also giving us a
little insight into how his unfortunate season will go where
he's rehabbing.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Exquisite taste of vehicles too, I might add, but I
didn't expect anything less from a well well paid NBA
a lot of years before he got to Houston.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
And I'm not gonna do the math, but I'm gonna
believe in the math. I believe in his three seasons here,
this being year three, he's made more money with the Rockets,
and if you count the contract, let's say opts in,
that's one hundred and thirty million or so.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, hopefully he matches the ring total or exceeds it.
That would be nice while here in Houston. All right,
mention that we will get to Nick Cassario's thoughts on
Joe Mixon. We will do that before three o'clock. But
in the meantime, it's time for what we do every
single day at this time. It's the best of X
and it's straight ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
The age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Did you all see this?

Speaker 6 (21:37):
We shall be putting out between five and fifteen.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Posts day, four hundred people were arrested for things that
they said on social media.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
History repeats itself.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Type Ben, you will succeed. Never doubt that you're the
one to put a No. One bill. Believe you're the best.
Nothing's gonna have a top you know, post an ever
single day.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
You're the best of.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
The breaking the entire internet. You heard the singing guy,
it's time best of eggs. I got a kick out
of what I saw last night as a noted Jacksonville

(22:28):
Jaguars fan made his way out of is it what's
the name of their stadium over there? Oh it's ever Bank.
Now how many different names have they had for that
place that actually houses a pool and tarps off the
upper deck?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
That I'll tell for quite some time.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
All right, Well, EverBank was the place where Rashid Wallace's
Kansas City Chiefs took one on the chin last night. Now,
this user I came across it. I don't even know
how I saw it, but it's hilarious to me. His
name's Jaggs Drew. And by the way, like I know,
their name is Jaguars, so they go by Jags for short,

(23:04):
but jag just sounds like such a short name for
just you know, a Delta Bravo. It just does. I'm
a Jump Jags fan. Jags Drew, that's his name.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Anybody likes just another guy.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
There he go. He had a picture, clearly selfie mode
with his cell phone. Stadium is way far in the background,
everybody's clearly filing out. It's night. Lights are on, it's
after the game. And one of those people filing out. Oh,
that'd be Rashid Wallace, who was right behind this guy,

(23:37):
Jags Drew. He says, Rashid Wallace with an exclamation point.
I told him I was a big fan of him
growing up, and he said, quote, get the bleep out
of my face. So definitely, the attitude holds up on
and off the court. I don't think Rashid Wallace was

(23:57):
in the mood for any sort of recognition after his
team lost, especially in the manner in which it lost.
But I can't even say that that would have been
how that exchange went had they won. I feel like
Rashid Wallace is just cantankerous and would have had that
response regardless of the game or the setting or anything,

(24:18):
if anybody came across him and said, hey, I was
a big fan of you growing up.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Nick says, they say never meet your heroes. Andy says, team,
his team just lost a tough game, and you're in
his face, invading his space. Try being nice next time.
It's worked for me one hundred plus times with famous
sports stars. Jags Drew responded, So telling someone I was
a big fan of them when I was growing up
isn't being nice.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Joe says, you should have teed him up.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I like that one. Jaggs Drew responded with him. Rashid
getting a technical on NBC. Yeah, I mean it's good activity.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
He's responding to just about everybody, so it's very smart
play on his part his team. He was upset because
his I mean, come on, man, I know he's wearing
a jersey, and I know he's wearing a hat, and
I'm sure he is a Chiefs fan to some degree.
I don't really imagine that former NBA player Rashid Wallace
is really upset leaving the stadium after a Chief's loss.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Are you yes? And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm
gonna argue a very well reasoned response to what you
just said. A celebrity who's randomly a fan of a
team being upset when you encounter him coming out of
his team's loss. Do you think if Jaggs Drew had been,
I don't know, pick a team that's not the Steelers,
the Bengals. Bengals Drew had been coming out of the

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Cincinnati whatever that stadium's called after they had just beaten
the Steelers and ran into Snoop Dogg, which makes absolutely
no sense. This guy grew up in Long Beach, California,
and he is a diehard Steelers fan because Snoop is,
and he is.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
And that's kind of what I was going to get
to next, because I don't want to paint Rashid Wallace
as some kind of random former celebrity or sports star
who's just following his team, because it is much more
than that, and he maybe really does get upset by losses.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
He's talked about it before. He's been a.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Chiefs fan all the way back to when they were
beating the Oilers with Joe Montana. He said he became
a Chiefs fan in the nineties, nineteen ninety two. As
a matter of fact, some some of this stuff on
his podcast a little over a year ago. So he's in.
I mean, he's really a legit. Yeah he is, but
he's I don't know, man, unless this is more of

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his life than I think, you know what it might
be now, I mean he this is where was the
game last night? Jacksonville, Florida, not Kansas City, Right, So
a special trip was made to make sure he was
at this game.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't watch his team lose just every now. I
was a really big fan of yours growing up. The
Chiefs lost beat it punk. I really do think that's
how it went. Now, By the way, you have traveled
to see the Texans a lot more than I have
just for work.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
As a worker. Right, I've been to zero Texans games
on the road as a fan.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I've only been to one road game where they won.
Care to venture guests. One was it in Jacksonville? No,
but it wasn't the ape in Nashville, yep, okay, And
it was I believe well wasn't JJ Watt's last game
as a Texan, that's for sure, but he was. He
was on the fielding for it was it was Kevin
Cooper's last game as a Texan.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I'm trying to think because I never uses me and
not twenty fifteen anything in my life at all. So
let me think out loud here. Seen him in Denver
and they beat the case Keenum led Broncos that day.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
See I saw them the first time they played in
Denver and they got worked.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Saw him in Philadelphia. I think it was a tight
game which they did not win.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Glad you made it out of their life.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Saw them in New England more than once. Do not
believe either of those win.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I was there for the Letterman Jacket game and it
was not a win.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I was there for the game where they played really
really well. This is O'Brien and Sehan Watson scored a
bunch of points, were in position to win the game,
and just didn't stop Brady from I think his fifth
touchdown pass of the game right at the end he
beat I think it was Brandon Cooks in the corner
of the end zone. Beat Kareem Jackson like punch. How
did you let these guys? You outplayed them, you scored

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late to win, but you let them come back.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I wanted a game game flying on an airplane from Vegas.
That's nice.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I've seen him win in Indianapolis, seen him win in Nashville, yep,
and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
They did not win it met life when I saw
them play the Giants in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
All right, well, there you have it. I don't know
that I'll be able to I don't know when the
next time I'll be at a Texans road game will be.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I was also at Monster Park to see them clinch
Mario Williams in early two thousand and six on New
Year's Day. I was there for that game on the field,
the Tony Banks game. That was the one. I'm like, Tony,
could you stop trying to win this game, because you remember,
if they lost that game, they lost the number one pick.
Unlike Lovey Smith, they got the job done, so they

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won the number one pickud not draft Vince, They wore Reggie.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
They won the number one pick because the league gave
it to him. Thank goodness. Let's draft David Carr. Then
they actually earned the number one pick with David, thank god,
so we could draft Mario Williams. And then they earned
the number one pick again so they could draft Jadavian Clowney.
And then a miracle, multiple miracles at the end of

(29:36):
the game from Davis Mills and Jordan Akins prevented them
from earning the number one pick again.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
They would have screwed it up.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You realized they were forced to take the second quarterback available.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Quarterback j Stroud. If that had happened in two thousand
and six, the whole trajectory of this franchise could have
been different.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
And we had talked about these two being linked just
last week as the Texans head into their fifth game
trying to get a second win, as the Panthers headed
into their fifth game trying to get a second win.
And we were most of the way through the Dolphins
Panthers game this past Sunday, and it was seventeen to
nothing Dolphins, and Bryce Young had turned the ball over

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the only two ways you can via a fumble and
via an interception, and I was just waiting to come
in here and say it's getting worse. They're going to
have to consider benching him again under the same head
coach as they did a year ago. And then the
Dolphins let him come all the way back, gave up
two hundred yards rushing to former Cowboys running back Rico Dawdle,

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and the Panthers are at two and three and Mike
McDaniels is still somehow dead man walking in Miami. We're
five weeks into the NFL season. Week six begins on Thursday,
and all of the head coaches are still in place.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's not gonna last much like i'd have fired for
those pants he was wearing alone. Well, come on, man,
not alone. I don't know if you've noticed, and your
im not gonna like it. Is it trending?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
You might have noticed Sean McVay wears pants similar to those,
is very tapered at the end, but he's won something.
And Demico doesn't wear the same pants McDaniel wears, but
they are also tapered at the end, shows a little ankle.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I never get to that part of his body because
I'm too focused on the guns. Every week I'm being there.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Guy could suit up, he could absolutely see he's a.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Monster's absolutely he can absolutely suit up.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Though he can't beat Nick Cassario arm wrestling. According to Dimiko.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Why he's being nice? All right? Speaking of Nick Cassio,
we're gonna hear from him. He'll give you a really
really detailed update on the Joe Mixon health situation, and
we will give you a really really detailed update on
Game three between Seattle and Detroit and the Alds. I
give you a hint, they haven't played any of it

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even though it's already begun.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Mmmmmm, that doesn't make any sense. Schedule start out after
three and it's been delayed. It's only two forty five.
Way to give the update away, all right? So we
will the game will scheduled for fifteen minutes from now.
How could we give an update because.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It'll be closer to fifteen minutes from now when we
come back, and I now won't give you the update
because you already ruined it. So Joe Mixon talk next.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Hey, welcome to my surprise birthday party.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh is this for me?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Wexler got Bless America?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Get out of here?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm watching something on Instagram. During the break about training date,
Ethan Hawk went on Rich Eisen Show and was talking
about the audition process and how intimidating it was with
Denzel and I said, I just the music came on.
We got to start the segment, and I was like,
oh man, I'm so glad. It's like one of my
favorite movies. I'm so glad you finally saw it. You

(32:53):
know what wex just said to me with a straight face,
what today they got trained? I mean, you just it
never does it ever get shut off for you? Are
you ever just like a normal person? Did it ever
get shut off? Dude?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Aren't you sold to be who you are?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
You hear that? Did you hear that? Call? Yes? Today
they got trained. I mean I mean really, he got trained.
He's gotta be training anybody else. Is that exhausting for you?
Always just not giving a regular answer to everything.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, it is exhausting because there are a lot of
times where the lengthy wordy nonsense eventually is a side
that wasn't worth it.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's legit exhausting, you exhausted, You're tom being realistic. Yes, unbelievable,
all right, So if.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
You want more of literally exhausting word salad man, that
is such a much segue. It didn't It really wasn't
that bad. There were a few instances. I was sitting
there with the rest of the assembled media this morning
when Nick Cassario made his Uh. He basically has three
let's see four, not counting each night of the draft,
but four regularly scheduled. I'm going to talk to the

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media today. He talks once during the off season leading
up to the draft. He talks once on the day
that training camp opens. He talks once right before the
season opens, and then usually they take advantage of the
off week, which happens to fall right now for the Texans,
and he meets with the media at that point in time.
There's other times where he will speak. He obviously on

(34:16):
a weekly basis, talks to the in house media down
the hall at NRG Stadium, and oftentimes he'll get something there.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
But he spent about twenty five minutes with us today.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
There are plenty of things to get into where the
team was a couple of weeks ago mentally versus where
they are now. How much of mention this in the
first few segments. How much of what they did these
last three or last two games, both offensively where they
scored seventy points and defensively where they allowed ten. How
much of that is opponent related? How much of that

(34:46):
is an improved team. They took their twelve point eight
points per game average and lowered it by giving up
only ten points to the Ravens this past week, so
a few questions were asked about that. A lot of
questions about acquisition were asked both the positive ones.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
The rookie class.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Jalen Smith would have had a lot of playing time
already had he not gotten hurt, already entrenched as the
first corner off the bench. On the offensive side, we
saw a huge uptick in usage this past week, partially
out of success and partially out of let's get some
of our starters fewer reps. But tay Ersrie has played
every single snap this year, almost every single snap at

(35:25):
left tackle. If we forget about what had to happen
in Week one, Jayon Higgins has scored a touchdown and
Jalen Nole has scored a touchdown. What he marks has
scored two touchdowns, and they continue to be a bigger
and bigger part of the offense. So a bunch of
people asked about his thoughts on where things are with
them and how they've improved. That's the other part of it.
The team is clearly improving. If nothing else. I know
what the record is, and I know what the results

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of the most recent games are, but they're clearly individually
speaking and as football players, and it's kind of a given.
That's what has to happen in this day and age
in the NFL. Think about what you do during training camp.
You barely hit anybody, you don't wear pads that often,
you don't do any tackling. You're afraid to play players
in preseason. And I don't have an issue with any
of those things. But you're not likely to be at

(36:09):
your best in Week one, certainly not as tacklers. And
that's like the biggest problem this team has had. I
saw a bunch of questions on that front.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Stroud's progress. We're in year three. He also, I mean
in a polite way, but totally shut down in a
rafel Stone kind of way about question about Will Anderson
and CJ.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Stroud.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
They would be in line for extensions in the off season.
You know, does that impact anything about your thinking now
or what is that something you think you could do
with it? During the same offseason, he said, we're in
the middle of the season here. Our focus is on
the football team and the roster we have here. Well,
you know, that's just it's not even a thought yet
or not something we're focused on right now. And he
was also asked a question about Joe Mixon. Is there

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anything that you could share shed any light on the situation?
Currently with Joe Mixon, and unlike previous questions asked of
both Damiko and Nick, and much more reasonable and sir,
we'll determine what he actually said, but a much more
reasonable answer was given.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Yeah, I think probably over the next few weeks, we'll
probably have a better idea. You know, he's making progress,
so on one put a particular timetable on it. So
I think over the next few for four weeks, probably
get a little more information here, kind of see how
he's progressing, you know, taking one day at a time.
But I think once we kind of get to that period,
probably have a better sense of you know, which way
is going to go, you know, for the duration of

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the year.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
I think it's of great importance a couple of different
things he said, including right there at the end, see
how it's going to go for the duration of the year.
If that doesn't open the door to all the speculation
that we've had being correct to speculate on, I don't
know what does the idea that he could not be
back this season sounds like he's saying, sure, that's a possibility.

(37:49):
When we get to three four weeks from now, when
we have a little bit more information than where we
sit today. We're in week nine, we're in week ten,
we're in week eleven. We'll see where things are likely
to go for the duration of the season. As in,
is there really any opportunity to activate him? Is there
really any reason to activate him? I mean, I'd hate
to think it now after two wins. Well, if the

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Texans are three and eight, are you activating Joe Mixon?
Even though maybe not in the best entries, He's not
fully like you get that. So there's a couple of
different ways to think of just that end comment, which
again is much more than we've thus leave previously been given.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Well interestingly enough, just like you, I was focusing on
the last handful of words in his statement, and I
could just be me. I took from that he's not
playing this year.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yeah, I think that's very, very reasonable. And I think
this is just even though I don't have all the details,
I have few details. I'm not even one hundred percent
sure on those details, And for the sake of not
to incur anybody's wrath, I am speculating here. I think
this is just a very complicated situation, one that everyone
is mad at when teams are involved in it because

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they think everything is cut and dry. This is hurt,
this is what you do, this is the timetable. Let's
go to the next one. It's just not working like
that with him. And I don't think there was another
procedure that took place. I don't think he's gone under
the knife again. I don't think they're waiting for those results.
I think it's much more of a situation where something
that took place away from the team in terms of
treatment or method or procedure, just really hasn't gone the

(39:22):
way that expected it to. So they don't really have
a concrete timetable on what's the actual result of it.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, I without divulging what I have been told that,
I'm just not really at liberty to say that. That's
a very succinct way of putting it. It was not
for a lack of effort to try and get back
on the football field. It did not go the way
that everybody wanted it to, and here we are. So
I'm just thinking we're being eased into that possibility. But
we can discuss that and a whole lot more as
we get into the three o'clock hour next.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Adam Wexler are the A team.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Welcome in to the simulcast here on Space City Home Network.
It is the eight Team Sports Talks seven ninety wex
over there ac right here, fresh off a Rockets preseason victory,
a Monday night win for the Jacksonville Jags, and some
absolute non clarity on Joe Mixon. We were just talking

(40:26):
about that last segment.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, we know one thing we did not know. What's
that they don't expect him. There's no possibility of him
playing until the season's half over. Yeah, we're five games in,
so give another four to five games, Game nine, game ten,
game eleven before we can really expect another update. Not
he's ready to play. He's not gonna be ready to
play in four to five week. He's not gonna be

(40:47):
ready to play in six or seven weeks. They'll have
a better idea on what the situation will be for
the duration of the season.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Do you think that Guys like you know, for example, Wood,
he marks he's a fourth round draft pick. He's wasn't
expected to do anything of note. Necessarily, you would like
it if you hit on that pick. But this is
your guy. Your tandem with Nick Chubbs, so to speak.

(41:15):
But do you think he can come on based on
what you've seen? And I know the offensive line has
a lot to do with this, but like you're at
this point, you're spelling Joe Mixon, which is a heck
of a spell, and.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Joe Mixon is, according to you, and now adding mes
never playing for the Texans again. Yeah, contracts a runout.
It's not gonna be back here next year. And that's that.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
He's Stefan Diggs two point zero. What I don't think
that at all? You got you got.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
You gave me an entire season where he played through
injury and was one of the better players.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Follow me on this. It's a different timeline, but you
did not get the entirety of the duration you expected
from said player based on an injury. His duration just
happens to be longer because his contract was longer. But
what you did get of him was good, solid, But
you're having to spell his absence. Now.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Here's how they got here. One of them had a
multi year deal when he got to Houston when he
was traded for. One of them had one year on
his deal when he was traded for to come to Houston.
The one who only had one year on his contract
was Joe Mixon, right, who was immediately extended by Nick Casserio.
The one who had multiple years on his contract was
immediately turned into a one year deal.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And that's Stefan Digs. Why don't you call him by
his new nickname that I just came up with just now.
He's the extender. That's what he does well.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Extending Joe Mixon, I keeping dig keeping both of them
in whatever you want. I'm not gonna the extension for
Joe Mixon is that was not a bad contract, not
a bad idea. Nor was his first season here bad
because there wasn't one season of football left in him.
There obviously wasn't one season of football left in Diggs,
but there it does work both ways. Like Stefan Diggs

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was perfectly happy taking years off of his contract so
he could play here in Houston successfully and bank on
him getting a bunch more money, probably not from Houston.
It was a player friendly deal. He got a bunch
of money up front from Houston, and he had the
opportunity to get out in free agency, and then it
turned out he got hurt and New England still gave

(43:20):
him an extreme. I think a very very player friendly
contract for where he was in his career, plus the
injury situation, and obviously this passed the you're only as
good as your last game. Sefon Diggs helped them a
great deal beating the Buffalo Bills, and he's been a
big part of why they've gotten off to a three
and two start, and Joe Mixon played through injury, helped
you win games, closed out games, carrying the football, earning

(43:42):
necessary late first downs to essentially give you the kneel
down opportunities great out of the backfield. And then this
offseason happened, and it's still a bit of a mystery,
but clearly the off season medical plans, whether there were
Texans related or outside related, have not gone according to plan.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Go ahead and give some more clarity on contracts and
their status here in the city of Houston, but will
switch gears to another team in town? And I missed
this during the break. You might have seen this, but
there's been some speculation about the future of some of
the higher ups with the Astros organization, though is that
fair to say?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Well, if higher ups, you mean the guy on the
dugout that wears a costume and makes all the switches
double switches, et cetera. And the guy who appears weekly
on Sports Talk seven to ninety at nine to thirty,
Dana Brown. Then, yeah, those higher ups, well they both
appear weekly to be fair, right, But I had something
a different description for Joe.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
But he doesn't wear a cost him. He wears a suit.
The other guy.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Both of them appear on our radio broadcasts, one usually
in the booth and one usually from the dust.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Well, both of them will be appearing for the next
calendar year, according to Brian McTaggart, who said, according to
his source astros GM, Dana Brown and manager Joe Aspata
both under contract for next year and will return in
twenty twenty six. See, they are both under contract. It
was just whether or not you were going to make
a change, a source tells MLB dot com. Any speculation

(45:06):
about their futures can be put to rest. Brian should
have put an asterisk on the end of that sentence,
because what it should have read was any speculation about
their futures for the next year can be put to.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Rest after that immediate future.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
And again I don't know that it's one way or
the other. But when asked right at the beginning of
the press conference about an option on his contract for
this upcoming season, asked by Chandler to Dana Brown, he
didn't really say yes or no, didn't want to address
his contract situation, but he just said, I am the GM.
I believe for today and the next day and the

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next day, or however he said it.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
But this two still could be true.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
The reason the source told him that they're both under contract.
We know that Joe was already under contract. Everybody knew that.
Everybody confirmed that Joe, Dana, et cetera. But this could
also be indicating, well, he's now a under contract for
next year. The option on the twenty twenty sixth season
in his contract has been exercised. Thus he is in

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place for twenty twenty six. Now, all right, let's get
let's just cut to the chase. Let's stop dancing around.
Let's how do you feel? I feel like this is
what they were going to do. I don't feel like
I'll be missing out on. One of the now six
managers that's yet to be hired, Skip Schoemaker is the
only one that's been hired in house with the Texas Rangers.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
There's six other openings.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
A couple of seat teams finished their years with interim
managers that did not name them their full time manager,
and several others have been let go since the season ended,
and I've thought about the list, I've read some other
people's list, thought about some managers who've worked before, whether
it's Bud Black or Bruce Bochie or Rock Obaldelli or
Brandon Hyde. I don't think the Astros are missing out

(46:50):
per se on anything out there. I do think Bruce
Bochie is awesome. I don't think he's the manager they
have in mind for the Houston Astros, nor does I
don't think he has. There's any inkling of coming to Houston.
And again, I don't think the manager was really actually
in any jeopardy of being let go unless the GM
was let go, and then the GM said, on this condition.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I'm going to ask you a more uncomfortable version of
the same question. You're ready. You have to pick which
one you want to keep or in this case, I
guess which one you want to let go, but you
can't have them both, which is kind of what I
thought was going to be what happened this offseason. But
since it's not we could play here on the radio

(47:32):
and on television. Which way would you have gone in
that scenario if you're Jim Crane.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yeah, both of these guys have done things that I
think you I don't want to see a manager make
that move. I don't want to see a general manager
do this trade or this acquisition, for sure. But I
don't think either one of them's done the types of
things that would tell you got to move on from them.
If I can only have one of them, I think
it's basically I mean, I would have to say. I
feel like the day to day stuff, the way you
want to win games, the way you want to have

(47:58):
your guys ready to play, it's just so important. Like
your GM is gonna make some major major mistakes with
player development, player acquisition. You know, you let a guy
get away, or you at a guy that doesn't turn
into anything, and you have the opportunity to then make
up for it. You go get somebody else, You spend
more of gym's money, You make a better uh, you
have a better idea of what should be drafted, and

(48:20):
then those players pan out if you have the wrong
guy in the dugout and you give them the right players.
I think you're still sunk, so I would probably say
I would I would keep the manager if I believe
that's the guy in place. I think you can. And
I don't want to make this at all personal with
either one of them. I really do think for the
clear mistakes, I think there's some clear I can't believe

(48:41):
they did this and it's not gonna work out, and
then it didn't. I just don't think Dana Brown for sure,
and really Joe, I just don't think they've done the
things that say, man, you got you gotta fire this guy,
you gotta move on, you gotta go find somebody else
that's gonna do it better. There can be people that
do it better. I think we think we just had
people that did it better. A GMS that preceded Dana

(49:01):
Brown obviously had lots of success here, and one of
them came in with garbage and made it worse the managers.
Then they won, and then Jasi took greatness and kept
it great and then left. And obviously both managers are
World Series champions, and they similarly, they walked into different situations.
Aj Hinch was there while the losing was still way
too fresh in everyone's mind and part of what they

(49:22):
were doing, and Dusty came in to ensure that they
would keep winning it. And they're different jobs. I think
it's okay to say the second job is easier than
the first. Dusty's job. Any manager that steps into a
winning situation, winning big is the hard part.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
The groceries are shopped for it for it's whether or
not you can win with or right.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
And so Dusty, Dusty joined a team that's like nine others,
they can all win the World Series. But his team
did because he's a good manager, because he made a
lot of the right moves. He did a good job.
He was a great manager here in Houston despite all
the things that people typical, things that you don't like
that he does. By his time here in Houston was
man a lot of success. I'm the greatest success. And

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look at what we're watching now, we're watching Aaron Boone
still hasn't found that success. And the groceries have been
shopped for over and over and over and over again.
Yes and no, yeah, yes and no. They don't have
a good pitching staff. There's hardly anybody there that can
throw the ball well. They don't have the best player
in the American League. I mean they don't have any
other thirty home run hitters. I mean the roster's fine,
it's so firing. Aaron Boone would absolutely, positively, one hundred

(50:25):
percent guaranteed not make the Yankees worse. It's literally impossible. Yeah,
but you can't.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
You also couldn't argue that it would make them better
because they did that with the last guy.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I can't guarantee you win a title. You're absolutely right.
But considering I've watched this guy not win a title
over and over and over and over and over and
over again. With championship caliber rosters in a very difficult
sport to win in, I'd be one hundred percent justified
and totally fine with just stop already.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
You know what time for somebody new. If I were
the Yankees and I really wanted to be a win
win win win win win win situation, but you want
to stick it to the Astros, your nemesis, and you
want to actually put that championship level caliber, an actual one,
not one that looks good in the regular season and
then a fizzles out. I'd back up the Brinks truck
to Jeff Luno. Dude, Brian Cashman said was the best

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GM in baseball.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I have that on good authority, very good source. What's
less than zero percent?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
That's not true?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
What's less than less than zero percent?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Not true? What's less than less than less The Yankees
come to the table and say we want to hire
Jeff Luno. You don't think big huge Yankee fan Rob
Manfred would clear the way with that blackballed.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
House Lie going away gonna hire Jeff Luna?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (51:39):
It's Cashman can't get it done since nine? I feel you, Nada.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
The ad on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
You know, we just thought it'd be a good idea
to just call up the source, just go straight to
the horse's mouth. So he did. Brian McTaggart MLB dot
Com joining us here on the program after he just
tweeted the following about a half hour ago. Astro's GM
Dana Brown manager Joe Spotted both under contract for next
year and will return in twenty twenty six, a source

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tells MLB dot com any speculation about their futures can
be put to rest. Brian, thanks for joining us, especially
on short notice. But was this ever in doubt or
did you really think there was a point where Jim
Crane was thinking about making another change.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
No, I don't think it was really in doubt.

Speaker 8 (52:34):
There still seemed to be I guess there seemed to
be some loose ends or some uh, I don't know, uncertain.
He's coming off that press conference a week ago when
you know, Dana just said I expect to be the GM.
Joe's under contract. I guess there was never this declaration that, hey,
you know both Rock Rock for sure are coming back

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next year. So I think things were twisting in the
wind a little bit, and this just sort of.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Puts at the bed.

Speaker 8 (53:01):
Both both already have contracts for next year, so they're
they're not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
And deservedly so.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
So it gives them a little stability going into U
you know what is a very important offseason here.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Well, you say deservedly so. And I know that there
is a mixed reaction to a statement like that. There's
just mixed reaction to this news because I think, you know,
while on one hand, the injuries, which I've never seen
anything like that, I don't think you probably have in
all your years covering the team. It's just ridiculous. And
I think after this the dust settled a bit on

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the season. I know, I felt like this that it's
insane that they were even in contention. While not wanting
to give them that excuse, I feel like that maybe
not enough was made about that. Is that is there
a way that there wasn't enough made about the injuries
as it pertained to them making the postseason, even though
it's all we talked about every day. Does that make sense?

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Yeah, I mean I think it can be both. Yeah,
they had a devastating amount of injuries, the most impact
injuries of any team, and yet thinks they didn't make
the playoffs because I think because they came so close.
I mean, I think if the injuries would have wrecked
their season and they would have finished ten games out,
I think maybe people, you know, swallow that pill a
little bit better and say, well, you know, we'll just
get healthy and be back.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
But no, I mean, you know, they they're in this thing.

Speaker 8 (54:18):
They're in first place, you know, entering the last ten
days of the season, and to fall short, but you know,
you lose Bregman, you lose Tucker, all the injuries you've had.
Alvarez plays forty eight games, we know all the injuries.
I mean, hater missed the last two months and you
need to one more win. They came really close, and
considering all the injuries they have, it's pretty remarkable. I

(54:42):
think that they were in it as much as they
were to the end. And so you got to think
that a healthy Astros team certainly makes the playoffs and
probably is making a run at a division title for sure.
So but yeah, there's you can you can be disappointed
for sure because around here fans expect them to win
every year and they didn't. And at the end of
the day, that's all. You know, it's gonna matter to

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some people.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Yeah, a lot of talk and there should be about
that one more win. The team that had the same
number of wins that they did is hoping to take
a two games to one lead in their series at
Seattle or against Seattle in those first two games. Now
back home in Detroit, then eighty seven and seventy five
baseball team, just what the Astros were. Are we in
a similar situation all throughout the next you know, twelve

(55:24):
months or so basically with the contract situations into and
through twenty twenty six, where there isn't additional financial considerations
to consider. If there were to be made a change
at some point during the year as it ends in
a year.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
What do you mean exactly?

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Are they both under contract for just one year so
we're kind of like watching them try to earn additional years.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
I mean, I know they're both under contract for next year.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
I know that.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
You know, Crane has had a few gms here in
the last few years. A spot is only in a
second year. They would like a little bit of stability
here going forward. This is still very good core players
when they're healthy. If they make the right changes in
the offseason, this is a team that should make the
playoffs next year. No reason to upset the apple cart
at this point. Yeah, they're going to have a long

(56:15):
offseason to review things. I think top to bottom where
they can get better, as any team would. But I
think having the same GM in place will be helpful.
And obviously I think Joe the spot if the Aswers
make the playoffs, Joe a spot, I probably has a
great manager of the your case and they fell just short.
So it just seems a society that, especially in sports,

(56:36):
don't make the playoffs. Fire everybody, let's start over. Not
always the best idea. And so I think that's very
much the case here with they asked Thos is you know,
let's just keep some stability going forward. Let's try to
find out why we have so many injuries, let's try
to fix it at some guys improve this team and
they can make another run at this.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I'll refer to the elephant in the room as attains
to what you just said. Do you think the stability
includes the medical staff. I know that's not you know,
the norm question that we ask guys like you this
time of year, but like there had to be some
point where Jim Crane's like, hey man, what's going on
in there.

Speaker 8 (57:14):
I'll just say this. I mean, I'm sure they're going
to review it. I mean, I don't know what makes
a good medical staff, what doesn't. Yeah, Astros suffer tons
of injuries. You know, there's been a rash of injuries
in the league, especially with pitchers. But yeah, the Astros
had more impactful injuries than anybody.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
I'm not in the trainer's room.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
I don't know, you know, what they're telling these guys
and what the messages are. I don't know anything about
that stuff, so it's hard for me to say. But
I think if you're there's no doubt. I think they'll
take a long look at what's going on with the
injuries and try to figure out where maybe there's some
shortcomings and areas that can get better.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Uh, whell it be changes? You know, I'm not sure,
you know, leave that to other people.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
But as as most teams do, especially when they fall short,
they take, you know, a complete look top to bottom
of everything and see where they can improve.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
And I'm pretty sure they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Do that obviously.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
The two wentlemen we're talking about, Dana Brown and Joe
spot I met with the media just a couple of
days after the season last week. I was curious if
among some of the things that were at least discussed
and they should be, do you think there's a real
opportunity for the Astros, who use some of their current
major league assets in trade to just kind of go
after a different type of player, whether it's a starting

(58:19):
pitcher or some other way to clear up the infield
gluts or maybe do something at the catching position. Do
you think there's a real opportunity for them to trade
something they have for something of value.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
Yeah, I do, And even Dana Brown said at that
conference a week ago that they would like to trade
for some starting pitching.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
So it's something obviously this on his mind.

Speaker 8 (58:40):
But yeah, like you said, there's a surplus of position players,
especially on the infield, where maybe you could trade somebody
and get something. Do you entertain a trade for Yanner Diaz,
Maybe you bring in another catcher resigned Keratini, maybe improve
a little bit defensively in that position.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Acquire a pitcher obviously.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
I mean, I think they're going to have to add
I would say two starting pitchers who can you know,
just go out there and take the ball every five
days and you know, hopefully they don't get hurt just
because they're they're gonna be really thin depth wise right
now with the injuries that they have, and now you
have Eric Getty coming off an injury you know, who knows,
you know how serious that is. It doesn't look like
he's gonna need surgery. But they need reinforcements, and they

(59:19):
do have, as you said, uh, surplus position players where
I think they could probably make some deals and get
some arms in here to help them while having some
money for you to go out in free agency and
get some guys as well.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah, at jose A Bray. You Rafael Montero money, Money's
gonna hit differently now that it's available this offseason.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
I mean Detroit Tigers postseason reliever Rafael Montero gave up
a run.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
That's what he does. Hey, Brian, looking into your crystal ball,
because you did mention the you know, starting pitching needs
and you know everybody's trying to retool. Not this time
of year, but it's you know, winter meetings will be
here before you know it. I don't think any of
the three of us this conversation right now expect fromber
Valdez to be in an Astros uniform next year. Where

(01:00:05):
do you think he lands? And you can give me
a handful of teams, but also do you think that
teams out there are like me in that he's been
so durable that it's almost the law of averages says,
if you commit big money to this guy, he's going
to be the next Astros pitcher former Astros pitcher to
go under the knife.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
I don't know if they're going to look at it
like that. I mean they're gonna take it as an
individual case. I mean, this is a guy who's been
a workhorse, starter I mean, he approached two hundred innings
this year, led the Astros in the innings, I believe,
and uh is a guy you can count on to
stay healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
And you know, maybe it's the opposite.

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Maybe maybe this is a guy that with a lot
of arms going down in an organization, this is the
one guy who has remained relatively healthy. Where he's going
to end up, I'm not sure. I haven't even begun
to look at, you know, what teams might be for him,
or who's gonna really be in the market for starting pitching.
Probably most teams are in the market for starting pitching.
But I know Fromber's probably wants, you know, the one

(01:01:08):
time here is a free agent, he's probably gonna want
to cash in as big as he can, and he should,
so his market will be interesting just because you know,
he is a little older now, he does have a
lot of innings, but he's also been really good for
a long time. And then you have some of the
stuff that goes on in games where he loses focus,
the cross up things a couple of months ago with Salazar,
all that factored in as well.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
But talking to some of his teammates, you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
Know, they like him, They like him on the team,
and not just because he's a good pitcher. He's universally
regarded as a really hard worker, probably one of the
hardest workers in that clubhouse.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
And yeah, there's sometimes he loses.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
His way, but you know, you rain him back in
and you have him out on the mound. They feel
pretty good about having him on the mound. So he's
gonna be a very very just in a free agent case.
And yeah, I certainly don't expect him to be in
an Astros uniform next year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
All right, no one alys is necessary, just a team name.
Who's going to win the World Series.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
I don't think y'all are gonna like this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Listeners, we can hang up before you answer.

Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
I think Seattle's gon win. I think I told you
a few weeks ago I was bullish on Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
And shut your dirty mouth. By Tiger, you shut your mouth.
Push click.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
But the more I'm Dodgers, I'm the more I think
that looks like a scary team is gonna be really
hard to beat.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
So uh, A.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
Dodgers Mariners World Series would be a lot of fun,
which I'm sure Astros fans would find.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Not a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
That makes me want to vomit in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Thanks for joining us, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Hey, with short notice, what do you expect, Brian, you
are a gym, You're a butte. We love having you
on all the time. A great job as usual this year.
We just expect it. We take you for granted. Uh.
But we'll catch up with you throughout the offseason, I'm
sure at some point and before we know it'll be
spring training.

Speaker 9 (01:02:53):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Yet again, Well, I was driving in my car today
and listening, so I'm a fan of you guys as well.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I love it, love it. The feeling is mutual. Brian
McTaggart here of MLB dot com, after breaking the news
essentially that Dana Brown Joe Spata back for twenty six.
We'll discuss that more as we continue here on a
Tuesday edition of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
The at on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Thanks again to Brian McTaggart MLB dot com for joining
us last segment. We will get that podcast up asap.
First tweet out of the box reacting to that great
interview with tags and tell the mouthful of garbage about
la versus Seattle on the World Series WTF and there
is not one not two, but three barfing emojis. I

(01:03:45):
agree with that tweet sent in by h Town. Was
it Lilo? I guess, I don't know. I hope I
didn't mispronounce that, but yeah, everything there was awesome until
the very very last few seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Yeah, twenty five minutes into the Mariners Higer's game, there's
still zero's on the board and very few fans shockingly
at Tiger Stadium for this game today because the tarp's
on the field and they're not playing baseball yet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
I mean, I say this every time this happens, namely
during Astro's games. Build a roof. It's just not that hard.
That's the money. It costs you extra dollars. I mean,
but seriously, if some of these teams, especially in the
North where it snows the first month of the year
and then the last month of.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
The year, they got to build a roof that can
handle the weight of the snow. Just as we're people
in Minnesota, we're not asking for the Metro Dome two
point zero. I hope not better is not walking through
the door. But yeah, like I just it's just seems
so avoidable. I know it costs extra money, but you're
in the playoffs, you're making more on those beer sales
and concessions. So once you make the playoffs, you should like, Okay,

(01:04:49):
we got to build a roof.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
We had a game here in a week. I don't
think a J. Hinch is staying in the booming metropolis
that's so pleasant as Detroit, Michigan because he likes the city.
He's trying to win. He has a roof. Yeah, after
he leaves the house, could you put the tarp over
the couch because we didn't build a roof on this place.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
I think, if you know, this series would be over
in my opinion, had the Tigers been able to come
back and win Game two. I think today's winner is
an exceptional position. Obviously, they'd take a two games to
one lead. I like to pitching matchup on the side
of the Tigers, I mean on the side of the
Mariners with Logan Gilbert against Flaherty, But neither team has
really been able to do a ton offensively. It's been
a very big pitchers duel. A lot of maneuvering by

(01:05:29):
both managers has been probably, i think, almost without obviously
saying it the most competitive series. I don't know the
most entertaining series because not a whole lot has happened,
but it's been competitive, it's been very close. There's been
I think, pretty high intensity moments, and Seattle crowd was great.
The Cubs are down two games to none and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Everything I've not competed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Yeah, the Yankees are down two games to none and
they have not competed. And the Phillies had the lead
in Game one and their bullpen blew it and nearly
came back in Game two last night with a huge
ninth inning rally. And because we're probably not gonna talk
a ton of baseball today and we just talked other baseball,
this probably is the only spot for it. And I

(01:06:13):
did hear Mark de Rosa talk about it this morning
on MLB Central.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Got to have him back on the show. He's so good.
He's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
We might want to do that soon. Considering the Braves
managerial job is open, you think they're gonna hire Mark
de Rosa. I don't know, but of all the teams
that should and could consider it, they're so lucky. He's
like Albert Pooles. He has some managing experience and that
he's managed Team USA, and Pools has managed some similar
type games, so you're not taking someone completely out of

(01:06:43):
left field. But I only bring up Mark because he
said it and I thought it, and we have the
same thought as it took place last night. What are
you doing, Philadelphia? Why do you hate yourselves? Why do
you like making it easier for the other team to
beat you. It's not a time game. It's measured very
simply in outs. They are precious, they are hard to

(01:07:05):
come by sometimes. Why why are you giving them away?
And I walk everybody through the ninth inning of yesterday's game.
Dodgers had put a couple runs on the board, four
of them, and the seventh inning was a pitcher's duel
throughout great effort from Blake Snell six innings, one hit,

(01:07:26):
great effort from Lozardo six innings, no runs, kept him
out there for the seventh some runs came across.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Now his team's down four nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
They put a run on the board in the eighth inning,
so they head to the ninth inning in a not
awful situation against the who knows Dodgers' bullpen, and they're
down four to one. So here's how the ninth inning
goes for the Phillies in their ballpark, in front of
their fans. Everybody's favorite. Alec Bohm opens things up with
a single. As long as Chas McCormick's not in the outfield,

(01:07:57):
this guy's pretty good. Jt Reil Muto double runners at
second and third. You're down three. There's nobody out. Nick
Castianos is at the plate. Okay, there's runners on second
and third. Of course he's swinging away.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
He does.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
He doubles both run score. He really singled and busted
it to barely beat the throw, which he technically didn't beat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
He does hustle.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
They just missed the tag. The swipe tag missed. His
front hand, hit his backhand, and by the time he
hit his backhand, his front hand was then on second base.
So now it's four to three. Three guys have batted single,
double double. Clearly Dave Roberts figured it out. Blake Trinon
doesn't have it. Let's go to somebody else. Let's go

(01:08:41):
to Vesio. Let's bring in the lefty to face the lefty,
and the left he stays in there. Rice is stut
and what do the dumb We hate winning. We're definitely
not gonna win the World Series playing like this. Phillies
think they should do in a four to three game
with no outs, nothing but hits in the inning and
a runner on second base. Well, they didn't call for

(01:09:03):
a bunt, they didn't call for a sack fly, they
didn't call for a guy to not take his back
to the plate. They said, will you please hit into
an out? Whatever you do, make sure they get an
out on this play. I don't want any more runners
reaching base. Please give yourself up. Bunted down the third
base line. Lookie, Betts and Castianos race to third base

(01:09:25):
in unison. Max Munsey picked up the bunt, which was
bunted right to him, as they wanted to do, because
he's the third baseman, and I'll make the third basement
field at boom. Castianas is at third and we've given
an out away. We only get three this inning. Let's
give one away instead. The one they give away is
at third base. Because Munsey spins throws fires to Bets,
he tags out Castianos. Like, yeah, that's worst case scenario,

(01:09:49):
but you begged for it to happen by employing it.
There was nothing wrong with Castillanos or Statt's execution. I mean,
you're wanting me to tell me, you want to tell
me Castianas should have been thirty feet off second base,
should have started running even sooner. Yeah, he could do
all those things, and you run the risk of the
dumb called for bunt being popped up, and then you

(01:10:11):
hit into two outs. They really didn't do anything wrong,
and the bunt wasn't bad, and the Dodgers made a
great play, which they can't have the opportunity to make
unless you hate what you're doing and their manager hates
what he's doing, and that's how you come up short.
Nobody's been retired the whole inning, and I know there's
a new pitcher out there. You just gave an out away,

(01:10:32):
next batter singles, Now you got runners, Oh my god,
everybody who we've sent up there this inning, even Harrison
freaking Bader, that's tried to do their job. Hey you're
a baseball player. Hey you have a bat. Hey we're
sending you up to hit. Why don't you try to
get one? All four of them did that in a row.
But the guy you asked to not do that didn't,
and he into the only out, ground out, ground out,

(01:10:54):
ballgame down to nothing. Good luck going to LA probably
even the SERI cannot take longer than an entire segment
to tell you how much I hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
But there is a team that could go to LA
and not the series up. I think they have the
talent to do it. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Instead of needing to win two more games, they need
to win three more games.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Well, they can do that. It's baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
You're right, they can. I picked them to win. I
don't think they're going to win that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I think this is the best chance we have at
the Dodgers not advancing all the way of the World Series. Now,
they were the team that I thought would get in
the way the best. But I don't know anybody can
be beaten in the playoffs. The Dodgers are very good
evidence of that. Yes, but up two games to none
and the best of five, I don't think they're gonna
lose three straight, two of them at home. Who's pitching
for the Dodgers other? Next guy? No? No kidding? And

(01:11:42):
when are they playing the next time? They play?

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Tomorrow? Okay? NL has the day off today? Oh boy,
all right, we'll take a quick time out when we
come back. I love you, sark I do. I've said
that many times on this show. He's a friend of
the show, but man, that was not it at that
presser and that quote he about that last loss. Oh man,
this is not a good season for the Longhorns. We'll

(01:12:04):
explain and you'll hear from him next.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
It is the eight team Sports Talks seven nine. He's
spaced City Home Network a little bit more of an
eventful three o'clock hour than I thought we were going
to have. As it pertains to the astros. In case
you missed it earlier, Brian McTaggart not only breaking the
news that both Dana Brown and Joe Aspada are under contract,
which we already knew, but they are staying and will

(01:12:44):
be a part of things for the twenty twenty sixth season.
I think he brought that up. He also came on
the show with us a segment or two ago as well.
But I did I like the fact that he clarified
simply because it felt like at that end of season
press conference, when you hear those dreaded words, yeah, he's
under contract. That's like the most non vote of confidence

(01:13:09):
you can get from any situation, even if you're talking
about yourself, which Dana was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Which is why Brian needed to get to the bottom
of this, as everybody wanted to and how he has
because it was absolutely exactly as you said. And I
think it's because of the position he was in, the
position that Dana was in. They really didn't feel comfortable
answering it any other way because he's not under contract
for five years. He hasn't just signed an extension. All
those things weren't in place, and Joe spout the same thing.

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I don't know the details of it, but I feel
confident saying he's not under contract in twenty twenty eight,
or maybe not even twenty twenty seven, but he was
under contract. I mean, he just became manager here, even
in a I've never been here before. I've never been
a manager before. I'm in a low leverage negotiating position.
You're hiring me to be the manager of your baseball

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team at the major league level. I think more than
a two year contract can be expected if this was
year two, So saying he's under contract makes perfect sense.
I don't believe there's any possible way he wasn't. Dana
Brown's situation was a little bit different, as he essentially
by non answering it and saying I'm not here really
talking about my Situation's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Not yeah, but is now well, I do want to
ask you another question about that. We'll get into that
a little bit later, but right now, Look, I like Sark.
I think he's a good head coach. I think he's
good at Texas. I don't think he should go anywhere.
Having said all that, as they go into what is
increasingly looking like, it's like, I think Texas will win

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this weekend, but you do well because it's the most.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
The odds makers do for whatever reason I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Brought up earlier, Like I, well, here's the main reason
why I think they will because nobody's leaning heavily one
way or the other in this matchup.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Well, one team has played nothing but excellent and is
undefeated in the top ten and has earned that right,
and the other team has had two bad games or
two losses. I think it's fair to say they didn't
have a bad game against Ohio State, considering as a
one score game and they're building to open up the season.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
I wouldn't call their game this last week a good game,
so I guess that leaves bad game. So the other
three games aren't really relevant to analyzing a football team.
It's what teams do at the beginning of their campaigns
at least twice, and the Longhorns case three times. Three
games they give you wins and don't really tell you
much else about your program because you're not concerned about

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how do you compete against the team that can't compete
against you. You're concerned about how can you compete against
the teams that can compete against you, which is all
their schedules left with right, you have no more of
those games.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Even with some of the SEC teams.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
That are on their schedule that aren't particularly strong, like Florida,
they can compete with you, and in Florida's case, they
beat you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Well, and it can get very ugly from here on out.
What you just said for a team that, let's not forget,
was the number one ranked team going into week I
guess zero in this case. That's just such a fall
from But again I don't feel like it is because

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I never felt like that was the team they were
because I was never confident in Arch. And if you
don't have confidence in your quarterback, and I don't think
Sark does, he just can't say it out loud. That's
what you are. You're a big question mark every single
week that you start him. And I think he knew
this deep down. How can you not he knew what

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was gonna happen. I don't think he knew what was
gonna happen. I don't think that's fair to say. But
there's nobody that knows better than him, the head coach
of this football team going into the first ounce of competition,
which was at Ohio State, by the way, that his
quarterback ain't it. He had to know that deep down
going into that game. Didn't he?

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Probably not. You really don't think if he had some
truth serum he could injected in himself, he would have
been like, Yeah, this guy's not gonna be that great.
Uh yeah, I don't think so I knew that. How
did he not know that? When did you know that
before the first game? How?

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Because I watched him last year when he came in.
I mean, I don't think anything he did last year
said he's not it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
I don't think anything he did last year said he
was it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Though, Well, there's such a big gap in between he's
it versus I mean, why are they even bothering with
the season. He's obviously going to win the Heisman and
they're gonna win a national type.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
But it's okay, what you just said right there is
how everybody was talking about this kid who was ridiculous
a plant Quinn yours. And before you say that, that's
not even fair. Of course it's fair. Not only did
he not supplant him when they were both healthy, he
didn't take the job when Quinn got hurt. And if
he was as good as everybody said he was going
into this season, I would think that would have happened

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last year. Fair or not, that's just how because you
can't you can't say that's a ridiculous thing to say
when you're also going to on this side of things
with that ridiculous amount of hype going into this season
based on what.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Right, But they weren't doing it like It's not like
Sark was going out there saying we've got the guy,
we're gonna win, he's gonna be great. I mean, you
guys have given all this Heisman hype and it's warranted
because he's awesome. They just didn't tell everybody to I
mean they there's only so much you can do to
slow it down. You're not gonna tell it. Hey man,
stop man. They did some of that, but it's all
it's all driven by the machine. It's not driven by them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I know, and I think the media has a big
part of that. But okay, So if that's fine, if
Sark doesn't want to say that out loud, not only
is that fine, I wouldn't expect him to. His job
as a head coach is to not say things like that.
But what I would expect is for him not to
say what he did say. And that's where I've got
the problem. I just he was asked about culture and

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you know, is it what is the culture basically, and
he said probably wouldn't be fair to these guys to say,
you know, our culture is perfect right now. They're all
they're due to do the right things. They were great today,
came in, they were coachable, they took to the tough
coaching from Saturday, so their mindset is all there. So
that tells me the culture's right. But at the end
of the day, we've got to play together as a

(01:19:05):
team Saturday. That's all well and good. That's coach speak.
Here's what I had a problem with.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
Take the other how many teams are there in college football,
one hundred and thirty thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Take the other one hundred and thirty five and have
them go play out Ohio State and at the Swamp
and see how they do. I can't. I can't do that. Man,
You're in the SEC. That's your schedule every year, even
if you have the quote unquote easy schedule in the
SEC like last year. I mean, if I'm a booster,

(01:19:36):
if I'm anybody that's invested heavily, whether monetarily or just
from a fan standpoint, and I hear Sark say essentially,
stop picking on us because we play in the SEC,
because that's basically what he's saying. That's not what I
want to hear from my head coach, from my leader.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Well, they've only played one game and they lost, and
that was the easy one. Well, the fact that they
played the number one team, and I think it's number
one or number two. Some people think Miami, some people
think Ohio State. Nobody else has done that, Like nobody
else in the SEC, who you're obviously picking at him
for nobody else has done that. Losing those two games
is fine. Describing him in this manner as you get

(01:20:12):
started on this SEC season. That's one game in Man,
you're setting yourself up for even more of this, because
what will you do? You expect us to win this game?
I mean, we just played Texas OU we just like,
come on, I do agree with you. That's that's probably
not the course I would have taken either. We can
still touch on this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
We'll also get back to a question I've got about
the Astros brass moving forward and Jerry's back in the
news for all the wrong reasons again. All that more
coming up in the four o'clock hour.

Speaker 6 (01:20:42):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Sports guy he's named at him talking your team. Adam
Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Get you a quick update on the baseball from today.
All right, so last segment we were talking about coach
I just gave you the update. If you guys were
wondering there isn't one is a tarp on the field,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
The college football discussion will continue, quite obviously, because I
do think there's something to be said. And we were
talking about how Sark answered a question about his team
and saying you know, I don't know how many teams
are on college football. You tell them to go play
Ohio State on the road and go to the swamp
at night, see how they do. They probably would lose
those two games, because if you lost them, then how.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Could anybody win them?

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
Now the reality of it is, and he's actually just
kind of maybe he's doing his team a favor because
he's not acknowledging what's true, and maybe publicly he's a
little bit uncertain if he should. Now he's talking, well,
we need to do this better, we need to do
that better. That's all obvious stuff and very good for
a coach to say, and easy to say publicly. And
he's not ripping his team for anything individual or anything

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over the top. All the things I'm sure he said
to them many times over and just hasn't quite gotten
there yet. They didn't lose because they played at Ohio State.
They didn't lose because they went to the swamp and
I said at night, they went to the swamp in
the afternoon. They lost because they weren't playing good football,
and they led a good team with a brand new
quarterback make it hard for them to play good football.

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In their opener, to a certain extent, they just simply
didn't play well either. I don't know how much of
it was Ohio State. I do give Matt Patricia some
credit for creating some very difficult looks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Then, when the difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Looks weren't there, the Longhorns offense continue to not look
particularly sharp, even against the crappy competition, even though they
scored a bunch of points. I was there in person
for one of those games at home where it was
just a festival of failed fourth downs, missed passes, balls
thrown into the dirt, and just bad offense in general.
And then, obviously, I think everybody has now seen the
game against Florida. I mean, there's sixteen teams in the conference.

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You can play fifteen of them. You can't play yourselves.
Florida's not one of the better teams. I don't think
Florida at best is somewhere in the middle. Maybe they'll
finish in the top six. Maybe this is their wake
up call and a healthier DJ Lagway will help guide
them to a much better season than we expect. But
all that's well and good, it really doesn't have anything
to do with Florida, and it really doesn't have a
whole lot to do with Ohio State. Is it going

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to have anything to do with Oklahoma or Arkansas or
Kentucky or Georgia or any of the other teams you play,
or is it really just you, not you start, but
your team. What do you like about what you've seen
from the Texas Longhorns in the two games against real competition.
I don't know how many things are going to make
that list because it's a pretty small list, and when

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it starts in the trenches, and that's where you've not
come through. They clearly played well enough in the trenches
against Ohio State, a game they easily could have won.
In Ohio State had a very difficult time doing things offensively.
That was not the case this past Saturday against Florida,
a team I don't think has as much talent as
Ohio State. I don't really even think it's close. They're

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working the trenches when they had the ball on offense
and when they were trying to get the ball on
defense was not good. The better team in the trenches
both sides was Florida. And if that's going to be
true throughout your remaining SEC slate, this is not going
to be a good season. I haven't mentioned Archie's name yet, right,
because it's not only about him, it then becomes about him.

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You've got injuries in the backfield, getting a little bit healthier,
but you're not running the ball particularly well. You're not
doing the things that could help take some pressure off
of your quarterback, who's still I haven't seen anything that
suggests otherwise. He's not at top of the top of
the list quarterback in his own conference. It's easily eight

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to ten players at that position for various reasons, who
look like they play the position better than he does,
all considerations to their circumstances. Sure, this guy looks better.
He's got all the time in the world. They have
a great running game, and they're up thirty one to nothing.
It's not been the case. I recognize all those things
that I'm trying to watch without any bias towards it,
and just saying that's just not what we're not seeing it.

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And I think he's just kind of deflecting away from
the obvious issues which he does not yet know how
to fix. Their roster's still littered with four star players
five star players, most of which are on their line.
There's a couple of three stars in there, but they
earn their way onto the field by outplaying other elite
caliber recruits. And they're just not just not playing well.
They are not a good football team. There's nothing about

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what they've done. And I will credit the voters. There's
twenty five teams in the country at least that are
better than they are, which is why they are unranked.
They have earned being unranked. They have no wins of substance,
and they're heading into the sixth game of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
And the teeth of their schedule along with it, because again,
like the schedule is not going to get easier at all. Right,
I mean, I don't see anybody. I don't feel like, nah,
it's not they're playing SEC teams.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
I don't know if you want me to go through
the ones that aren't very good like Kentucky or the
ones that are very good like Georgia and Vanderbilt. They're
playing SEC teams the rest of the way. That is
what Florida is. They're not unbelievable, they're not awful. They
can beat you. That's every team on their schedule. Maybe
one of them isn't. But I don't even know that
about Arkansas as they move forward without Pittman. I don't
know that for sure about Kentucky, although it looks likely,

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but they are playing teams that can clearly compete with
them the rest of the season because of who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
In the Aggies. I mean, if you had said preseason
number one ranking, and then where these two teams would
be by the time they meet each other. And again,
we don't know what's gonna happen from here. Maybe they'll
surprise us, but I just don't feel like it. But
the Aggies right now, like if you were to play
that game right now, wouldn't look good for Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Yeah, right now the way they need some They need
to find something, certainly on offense to do something about that.
Texas A and M gets Florida this weekend. Texas A
and M has three road games that follow that, so
we'll be away from College Station for a while. We'll
find out a little bit about Missouri this weekend. Because
of their competition, they have LSU. Those are among their
three upcoming road games. Arkansas comes first. They have one

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of their non competitive games remaining on their schedule. They
didn't schedule all three of them right out of the Gate,
or all two of them in their case because of
Notre Dame being there, all three of them up at Samford,
and that comes right before Texas. They closed the season
with what appears to be an average South Carolina team,
then Samford, and then they go to Austin to take

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on the Longhorns end of the season, last game. There
will be all the fanfare, all the excitement, all the
rivalry built into it, just like there is this weekend
against Oklahoma for Texas, but there is an excitement about
two awesome teams getting set to renew this rivalry once again.
It's definitely not the case this weekend, and I would
be surprised if Texas did their part to make that

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true at the end of the season. Yea, Aggies have
a lot to prove. I love what I have seen
from them this season so far. Manhandle Mississippi State in
a way that I did not think they would. I
do think Notre Dame is a good football team, and
we'll just make their way right back up the rankings
the rest of the season. Probably will not lose. Their
schedule is fairly easy, but I do think they're a

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good football team. The Aggies have a couple of prove
it games and the first of those games, well, any
SEC game to a certain extent is but LSU and
Missouri and back to back games that will go a
long way.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
And that's on the back half of their schedule. But
going back to what Sark had to say, did it
surprise you the he, of all people in this setting,
would say, because I just got done talking about he
didn't say some of the stuff that I would expect
him to not say. But for him to kind of
take that track, I don't know. It can't be playing

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well in Austin.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Well, it took you out of that opportunity later this year. Okay,
so now you're playing. Okay, what are you gonna say now?
And if you don't beat Kentucky and Missussis by state,
because you can't say, well, you tell those one hundred
and thirty five teams to go to Lexington and win, Yeah,
they will fifty of them, sixty of them, seventy of them.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Maybe eighty of them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
That's the problem with these are now they were already
what he says and what they do. There are two
kind of independent things. They have what would what I
would call must win games on their schedule for some
sort of respectable type of finish to their season. There's
plenty to play for if they play much better, which
I just I want to say it's possible, because it's
always possible. I just don't see any of the things

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that suggested, you know, they didn't have a three hundred
and fifty yard passing day, a five hundred yard offensive day.
They put thirty five, thirty eight forty one points on
the board, but they just fell short that day, or
they were right there at the end of a twenty
three to twenty game, they'd been hard fought and a
ball got tipped and instead of scoring the game winning
touchdown or kicking the game winning field goal, they had
something to go against them late in that game, kind
of a flukey play, and they came up short. They

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didn't just come up short against Florida. It just didn't
feel that way. And I know they made it into
a one possession game late and had the football before
spiking it with zero seconds on the clock. I'd love
to see a change. I do believe this is a
throw the records out type of game, but it definitely
doesn't look like they should be favored. And I'm still

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a little bit surprised that they are. Oklahoma schedule includes
two wins. They've played probably two teams that can compete
with them, Michigan and Auburn. They beat them, both didn't
blow either one of them out outplayed them, both were
in control for much of each of those games. Have
now played a game without their starting quarterback. That was
this past week against a non competitive Kent State team

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that did not score. And now the likelihood is Materier
returns Longhorns, South Carolina, Ole, miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri, LSU.
The Sooners, much like the Aggies, and maybe even more
so than the Aggies, their roade through this SEC season
looks incredibly difficult, and Texas looks like one of the

(01:30:50):
easier masters.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
An SEC coordinator saying about Arch Manning, he throws a
bad pass, He's the worst quarterback in the world. He
throws a good pass, He's gonna win the Heisman, like good, gracious,
just let the kid play for a bit. I understand
what he's saying, and I even get that, you know,
the the hype for those people who are like give
me a break was excessive. But I do think that

(01:31:11):
sometimes the other end of things are a little extreme.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Great the first half of that comment. Again, he throws
a bad pass. He throws a bad pass. He's the
worst quarterback in the world, right, And you got that
from an anonymous SEC coordinator. And it's so believable that
that would have been all that he said, right, because
so far this season that's what he has.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Thrown, just far too often, a bad doss. Just gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
And yet that's not really what the coordinator was saying.
He was saying, back off. This guy's making his eighth
star when he throw the good pass.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
And people said he was gonna win the Heisman after
the season started. Yeah, they he you know, the only way.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
He didn't have to do anything, and he's being named
the Heisman Trophy front runner. All silliness noted here on
this program very loudly and clearly. Not a Longhorn hater,
far from it, just kind of calling it like I
see it. At this point in time, still looking forward
to the game. The State Fair is always awesome. The
food there is even better than awesome. And I'd love
to be going. I've still never been.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
What a loser.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
ID try to get the confirmation plans for my daughter today.
She and her friends are headed up there. Saturday, I
got a text from Brooklyn. I'm nervous about this weekend.
I said, you'll win. I felt bad sending that text.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
It is the A team. It's Sports Talk seven ninety,
Space City Home Network. Wextac with you on a Tuesday
edition of the program. All Right, I had a like
a like a follow up, follow up, follow up question
when I was asking you about the Astros.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
But yeah, I've just got a question for you, Nick,
And then I got a brief follow up thank.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
You, But you'd have to say follow up, follow up,
follow up, So I know, I said, you know, basically,
go under your head. Who would you have to choose
between Dana and uh then Joe Aspata.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
So keep your thought, don't forget what you're saying. But
because you brought it up that way, yeah, like you're
in this for the peak behind the curtain type of thing.
You're in this part of your life where you're realizing
how awesome curb your enthusiasm is. And so you are
constantly sending me reels and vice versa. And I know
you probably haven't seen them before. I've seen them all

(01:33:21):
hundreds of times, and we'll both laugh equally despite that. Yeah,
but when you said gun to your head, are you
not picturing Larry sitting in his living room talking to
the family who's awaiting the birth of their child in
a mixed marriage, a white woman and an African American man.
Gun to your head? What do you guys want? What
are you looking for? And I mean, when you present
it like that, how am I not supposed to?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
So every time you hear that phrase, you think of
that you're hear.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
It that often because that not that many people say,
all right, gun to your head.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
But in sports, I feel like that's a it's at
least an expression that is used more often than not,
simply because you got to make tough decisions in this business.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
Like I said, hopefully you're back on that same trend
of thought you've asked me to say. I won't say
it like I say training day because that's too graphic.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Yeah, no, No, that would be good. There's lots of
guns to the head in that in that movie. No,
I like, who do you think? And this is kind
of the uncomfortable version. Who do you think? Seemed like
at times they were more in over their head. And
I say that because I don't even really think that's
the case about Joe. Maybe maybe the season immediately after Dusty,

(01:34:30):
But I just feel like they both get a pass
somewhat because of the injuries. Well they do, it's not
even somewhat. I mean, anybody that was in that situation,
which has never happened before, like it's unprecedented. Was nobody
had that many il stints in the history of this game,
so it is unprecedented. But I just feel like a

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lot of times the manager will get more of a
pass in that situation because up to an including, you'll
look at the GM and say, well, why didn't you
outfit this thing better? So that when these injuries happen
you can't say that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Yeah, enough with this idea that you need a twenty
six guys, Dan and you need fifty, where have you
been you know they need? They actually needed like sixty
this year. So let's get real for a second. You
got all these players and pitchers, and I'll start the
list and see if you can finish it. And the
question and who makes the list? Whose season are you

(01:35:23):
happy with? Among the players, not just the guys that
wear the costumes, but the players, specifically, they played for
the Astros this year, and you are happy with their season.
List starts with Hunter Brown obviously happy, and it probably
includes Jeremy Pania, But I have to also say probably

(01:35:44):
because of the limitations on his availability, not once but twice,
and in each case, well in the first case, because
there was no more season fairly extended. That's a one
hundred and twenty five game season, that's fair. He's he
makes the list. I'm happy with his season, all right.
I will stop there, and you can add anybody else

(01:36:07):
you want to the list. I've given you two names
off of an everyday roster of twenty six and a
usable roster of like fifty factor everything in who are you?
Who gave you a happy season? I'm happy with the
season that they gave this team. When you're the manager
of the GM and you're looking back on things, two
names and they go right after the other. Brian Obray,

(01:36:28):
You and Josh Hater. So Brian Obray was an obvious
omission on my part because I didn't want you. I
wanted you to participate. I wanted to give you at
least one clear and obvious answer that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
You nailed it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
You're going to pass this class. Josh hater is a
is a tough one and we're only at four.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
When he was out there, he was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
But are you happy with his season? Are you happy
with what It's not notional and it's not an affront
to getting hurt. It happens. No, But are you happy
with a closer who was unavailable to you for two months?
He gave you forty eight opportunities to pitch. Brady pitched
twenty two more times. He was awesome when he was

(01:37:08):
out there. I'd be debating with you. I'll take the
l you get the dub well for I think that's fair.
You missed roughly the same similar time period to Jeremy,
so i'll give you Josh. Yeah, okay, you're at four.
After that, that's the problem, like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Howard, like you can't be samething with Paradis, but you
got a factor in the injury. He missed so much season.
I'm not happy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
No, you know you're not happy with the levels to this,
And then you get into the players who weren't hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
You weren't. There's no way you were happy with jose
Al twove season. Christian Walker season was a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Largely happy with Yiner season. You can be happy. I mean,
I guess Victor character. I was happy with him, but
he was close. People think he had like this seven
eighty eight hundred ops when he.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Didn't know, but when he was pinch hitting he was.
I would say, that's fair. I'll get you to five.
You got five. You want to give me a Steven Okert.
I think we could get to six. Brian King, maybe seven.
I'll tell you this it we're getting somewhere like it
as an astro. I was happy with Carlos Korea.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Right, but he only played for you for a too
short a period of time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Yeah, I I But after.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
That, now you're gonna ask me to question whether the
GM or the manager was at some points or the
whole point in over their head. I don't see in
over their head last year when they made the playoffs.
I don't see in over his head this year when
he didn't know who his starter was twenty hours before

(01:38:41):
the start. That's why, at least I weren't telling us
that he might have had an idea.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I don't think that applies to Joe, but but with Dana,
it's like, okay, I'll give you this off season, but then, like,
I need to see what you do because I'm going
to start if you don't. And I get he's got a.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Lot on his play, but that's your job and you're
saying it the right way. I need to see what
you can do. Does the owner say it that way
because his dana is It's not an excuse, It's part
of the job. When you're the general manager or the astros,
ask the last general manager, ask the general manager before that,
the ones that have worked with Jim Crane, You are
in charge of putting the roster together and managing the

(01:39:20):
expenses around it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Well except for the big deals, and then I'm going
to take over all of the.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
They're the most important decisions, almost the most important decisions
that you make, and even some of the other ones
that aren't really Jim Crane front burner decisions. Well, the
Jim Crane circle of trust had enough input on some
of these other deals. Obviously, abraw and Montero come to mind.
Get ready for something not really all on you to
do your job when the person who's hired you to

(01:39:48):
do your job still has a hand in doing your
job with you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Are you ready and that's okay. An owner can do that.
It's really gonna rub the fan base the wrong way.
And actually, since we're sitting here on Space City Home
Network and the Astro flagship, it might rub Jim Crane
the wrong way. It's not meant to. It's not a
personal attack. It's just something I've heard a lot from
the fan base. Like maybe he'll maybe he'll hear this,
maybe he'll take it for I don't know. It's just

(01:40:12):
something I've heard, I have heard, and we're gonna this
guy's coming up. Actually, like in a couple of segments here,
I've heard more than one person compare him to Jerry
Jones in that way, in that Okay, I've hired this
person to do this job, and I've hired to this
person this, but I can't stop doing putting my own
fingerprints on it. And like I think in the case

(01:40:35):
of like the A Bray you signing the Montero extension,
things like that, that seems small at the time, but
they kind of add up to the point where now
you're looking back and you're like, Okay, you wouldn't pay
Alex Bregman this money here right after you gave Josh
hater this money there, and I I mean I don't

(01:40:57):
necessarily agree with it from the standpoint of you know,
I don't think I would have given Alex Bregman that money.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Yeah, the comparison itself to Jerry, I I mean I
disagree more because I'm not sure what degree there is,
But man, do I see that extremely differently.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
It's just that elementary Jerry. He's not going on a
radio show every day, he's not doing other stupid stuff.
I'm not saying he's Jerry. Yeah, I'm not getting I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
I'm not trying to bring that into it either, and
it should be worth noting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
But he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
Jerry doesn't hire other people to make any of those decisions.
Jim Crane's been the actual general manager, making the decisions
on who's on the roster, holy and completely for a
couple of months during his decade long ride on Jerry
one hundred percent in charge of every single move that
franchise makes from personnel from the moment he bought the
team till today at four to twenty six pm in Arlington.

(01:41:49):
But Jerry has hired coaches, especially in the past. This
was definitely true of Jason Garrett, Bill Parcells. They butted
heads because philosophically they didn't agree. I feel like that's
why James Click got a pink slip after winning the
World Series. Yeah, he hired him to do his job.
He did it very well. That's there. You're getting to
the other thing that's very different, and I know it

(01:42:10):
did exist. I think we can all remember, if we really, really,
really think hard, Jerry Jones does have fingers with championship
rings on it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
If he so chooses to put that on that Jimmy
got him.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Okay, well, yes, it's also that like Jim Crane has
been an owner for a third of the time neighborhood
of the two rings.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
This is not to take anything away from what Jim
Crane did do, which is say, yes, Jeff Luno, we
are going to tear this thing down to the studs
so drastically that you won't even be able to recognize
it and you'll be able to pick sections for yourself
during games. As we lose one hundred plus seasons, but
the end game was spectacular. You got to give Jim

(01:42:50):
Crane credit for that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Yes, say what definitely feels like Jerry Jones and Jim
Crane comparison, say what, It almost feels like we were
already doing that. That, among other things, comes next in
Say What.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
The Age on Sports Talk seven ninety. This is Adam
and adams weekly jaunt through mind bockling moments that make
you go, oy what what?

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
Say what? Time?

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Tad?

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
What is here?

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
On a Tuesday?

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Pray what O?

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Dain? I?

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
Dare you now say what?

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Those that are wondering and aren't paying close enough attention
and somehow figured out as it's a huge problem for people.
Clinton told us that earlier this year with Major League Baseball,
where's the game today? You guys flipping around on the
tube and you land on the channel that's carrying the
early American League game today. No, manager Dan Wilson of
the Mariners did not decide to throw Luis Castillo again.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
That he is his arm's gonna fall off.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
He is the one you will see on the map
for the Mariners right now is finally Kevin seven and
Alex Poppy Jeets and Adam and Adam and aj have
finally given up. After ninety minutes since what should have
been first pitch, they gave up and now they're replaying

(01:44:19):
Game two, the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
Lose that's coming tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
Maybe I think the initial thought was they would try
to get this game in maybe around five o'clock our
time six o'clock their time.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Doesn't look like that is going to be the case.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
But really, no official word on what they have unless
it's come down in the last couple of minutes. I
was looking over at the mariners x account. It's a
good place to go. Tigers might be even better considering
it's their game. At two thirty three pm, exactly one
hour or two hours and one minute ago, Mariners posted
regula with a sad face. No further updates. It's been

(01:45:00):
two hours. They've not felt the need to post an
additional update about the raindelay situation. Oh, it hasn't stopped raining,
probably because there isn't one. The Tigers have not updated
the situation either. Updates will be provided when available, but
not for at least two hours, so no updates available.

(01:45:21):
The other game the Yankees Blue Jays in New York.
No roof there either. All right, it's not very far
from Detroit. Well, the weather system hasn't made it to
the Bronx yet a lot of suggestions that would fall
into say, what you've had the same, very specific suggestions.
I'll give you three found on the X platform on
these raindelay posts.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Oh so there's a rain delay.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
If I were King of Major League Baseball, I would say,
if there's a rain delay at your ballpark, sands a roof,
you forfeit the game, even in the playoffs. And that's
that if I were the King of MLB. Another one
went a little bit more in detail and try to
bring logic into this extremely illogical mandate. What I think

(01:46:05):
they should do if you have a rain delay or
if a game needs to be postponed, if there's two
weather is an issue and you do not have a
roof and the other team doesn't have a roof, I
think you should be docked one run and the game
starts one nothing. So that made me think, So if
you have a roof and the ballpark that they're actually
using does not, and thus there's a rain delay because

(01:46:28):
you have the roof to get more runs because it
was in your ballpark, you would be playing.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
No, they're not having the roof. And here's the thing,
if that were actually a rule, you'd be seeing some
roofs getting constructed pretty darn quick.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
Yeap, just a little still rain, little raindelay. I'm sure
though they'll get this rainela humor. I doubt the team
one of these teams will get automatically pushed into the
next round. Games will still get played.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
I do wonder if you're your synopsis you're well, Actually,
I guess it was Brian McTaggart that really put this
out there that I think Seattle's gonna win this series
and go to the World Series. I wonder if that
changes anybody's prediction about just this specific game.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
I mean, they were scheduled to play game four clearly
tomorrow and then on off ramp game too, and well
what it potentially does The Astros were in this in
twenty twenty two, I think had a Rangelphia right, Yeah,
so it definitely impacts players, pitchers, yep. I mean, do
you do you have days of no games where you're
supposed to well, now, does somebody now become available but

(01:47:32):
they would not have been on that day, whether it's
a starter or a reliever.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
You know, you're now not throwing somebody, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Maybe on back to back days if you've gotten into
game three and then the second day in a row,
you're supposed to play. Now you're off that day and
how you play the next day, So we'll see if
it really has much of an impact on This series
is the only series that's tied at a game apiece. Each
of the other two series has one team playing for
their baseball lives. The Yankees are trying to stay alive,
the Phillies will be trying to stay alive tomorrow, and

(01:47:59):
the same thing Worthy Cubs. I know you got something
else here, but one of one last thought on the
Jerry Jim comparison, I feel like Jim's run as owner
is a shorter period of time that includes only two eras,
a short era of intentionally losing because you felt that

(01:48:21):
was the best way path towards winning, and then nothing
but extreme winning, constant playoff trips, constant Division titles, constant
advancements in the playoffs until last year in this year,
and four trips to the Super Bowl, including two Super
Bowl wins. And I don't want to do a disservice

(01:48:43):
to Jerry and only compare the time they've both been
owners together. I could go back another ten years and
there'd still be nothing of consequence from Jerry. They're not
playing in the conference title game. They're not constantly winning
the division. They clearly haven't been back to the super Bowl.
And we're talking twenty years of Okay, here's how he
does it as an owner, and here's how Jim does

(01:49:05):
it as an owner. Well, Jim's doing it right. They're winning, yeah,
and Jerry's doing it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
They're not. Do you think that a documentary that came
out backfired in his faith? Like he he probably thought,
oh this is good. It's clearly like like the his
version of MJ on the Last Dance, he had executive
producer Carte Blanche, let's try and make me look as
good as possible. Yeah, but all it did was remind
everybody that you ain't done squat for thirty years. Yeah,

(01:49:34):
he doesn't seem to mind.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
He's been in the news for so many reasons, all
these I mean, think about it. He's run the team
for Look at how many other owners have had, let's
just say, a thirty year run. Er families that have
had thirty or fifty year long long runs. We hardly
ever talk about them. We talk about Jerry NonStop, the
Roonies NonStop. That's about it. Well, I mean the Lions family,
the Ford families owned the Lions forever.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
The Hunts. Who talks about Kansas City?

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
And did you talk about the Hunts before Pat Mahomes
got there? They won those early suits and then what
they didn't do anything for a.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Little bit if he hadn't gotten there, but you still
had the daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
We don't talk about the Hunts because they don't put
themselves out there like Jerry, and they do what we
think almost all owners and pro sports do or should do.
I own the team, I'm hiring people to run the team,
and they let them do it until they hired you know,
the right people in personnel, Andy Reid, until they drafted Pat.

(01:50:26):
I mean, they weren't winning. They weren't a very good
franchise when it came to wins and losses for thirty years.
And now they're among the model franchises. I don't think
it has much to do with his model appearance.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Daughter. What's your name again? They have multiple daughters. Oh
what's the one? Gracie? All right?

Speaker 7 (01:50:45):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:50:45):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Well, we don't have time to play it. Oh we
only have an hour and twenty minutes left. What are
we gonna do? Well, not this segment. I'll give you
a teaser. Okay, now you play us out, I'll to
end the show. I'll let I'll let the don the
don te dad what we're going to talk about next
segment by letting you hear what's happening at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Having the least proper way to reference the president by
using somebody in his family.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Ivanka's would be boyfriend if they weren't related, Marla's one
time lover, Oh too soon, Marla maples kais at WrestleMania,
Kai's grandpappy and golf sparring partner.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
She's got to be better than him at golf, right probably? Okay,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
The age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
And in June fourteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Next year, we're going to have a big UFC fight at.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
The White House, right at the White House.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
On the grounds of the.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
Night. So there's Donnie. Did we ever settle on a
name for him that could be the least what did you?
How did you phrase it?

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
The just call him the president. I don't have to
call him Eric's dad or Donald Junior's dad.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
It's fine, Eric's dad, dad coming to the party, Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
If I heard him correctly, he is telling people that
there's going to be a UFC fight at the White House?

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
Is that right? Yes? And we've known about this, to
be fair for a while. I just wanted to have
him This isn't a joke. Yeah, He's gonna have it
like on the lawn at the White House, Okay, which
is just insane. So it'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
Not a very good event, the worst event, not make
any money.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
You could be the biggest Donald Trump hater if you
were offered a ticket to go to this event. There's
no way you're not saying yes. None. Think about first
of all, security is going to be off the charts. Secondly,
it's a UFC event at the White House that Donald

(01:53:07):
Trump and Dana White are putting on together. How is
it not going to be anything but the most over
the top America Red, white and Blue patriot Like I'll
probably have Kid Rock performed there.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
Do you have a matchup where the winners already determined
like they would.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
Do in boxing, God's professional wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
One of them would be an American fighter and one
of them would be the Drago like Dolf. Yes, is
this what we're in store for? Because I will I
always give UFC credit over all else. It's so rare,
and I'm sure it's happened, but it is much more rare.
You mentioned wrestling, and then there's boxing, and then there's UFC.
I could know exactly what's going to happen in wrestling match.

(01:53:48):
Everybody who's participating already knows it's scripted. Boxing man, the
controversies they've had and you know, illegitimate fights and scoring
ridiculous nonsense from judges NonStop. In the boxing game, you
have a main event, a comin event, a nine fight
card in UFC with some of the best up and

(01:54:09):
coming fighters leading you into that main event. You're gonna
see seven things you did not expect to see. You're
gonna see five winners. You're a gas that how that
match played out, how that whatever it is that UFC
delivers that almost every single time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Speaking of what UFC will deliver from their side of things,
let's hear a snippet of what Dana White had to
say about this very event.

Speaker 11 (01:54:33):
It's going to be under five thousand people. You know,
it depends on how much the lawn can hold, you know,
as far as weight. The octagon itself weighs fifteen thousand pounds,
so we don't know, we're still working it out. And
you know, at first he put Ivanka in charge of
handling this thing and putting it together. And when we
sent the plans over to Ivanka, she said, Dana, you

(01:54:54):
do not mess around. You can fit eighty five thousand
people over there. We're gonna have a stage where m
you know, we'll have bands playing all day and then
people will be able to bring blankets and lay around
and watch the fights.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
We're literally going.

Speaker 11 (01:55:07):
To take over Washington DC that week. We're gonna do
the weigh ins there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
We're gonna have events at the Lincoln Memorial.

Speaker 11 (01:55:14):
That's what we're talking about. Yeah, I love one of
one type events like we did at the Sphere last
year for UFC, not JA. This is a one of one,
incredible opportunity not only for the fans for the sport,
but for the fighters. For the fighters to be able
to be a part of something like this, it's incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
And then for the fans.

Speaker 11 (01:55:32):
I mean to come to Washington, d C all week
historic places and be able to you know, enjoy UFC
and you know all the history that DC has. It
it's a one of one experience.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Typically an arena event eighteen to twenty one, twenty two thousand,
typical attendance. The tendancy mentioned it sphere to the neighborhood
of sixteen thousand, but a very unique event, not a
typical event because it was there. And now he says
five thousand or so. He's he's talking about an outdoor
concert at the pavilion right down here in the Woodlands.

(01:56:06):
He's talking about an event at south By Southwest. Bring
your blankets. People will come out there and enjoy the event.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Of people like those right, those two venues you mentioned, Like,
I think Woodlands pavilion is twenty k I don't know
what ACL is. It's more sprawling.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
What are you selling at the event at the pavilion?
You're selling lawn seats, right, What are you selling at
the White House? Lawn seats with blankets with blankets Like, Oh,
I'm gonna go see I'm gonna go see a game
down Constellation Field and then they're gonna have fireworks after
I bought the package that lets me go onto the
field with my blanket to watch them.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
That's what he's talking about. That's how he's presenting it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
And I know it's a it is gonna be out
of control what you said at best, way over the top,
total one of one event.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I don't think it's gonna be on my eightieth birthday.
I've made it eighty years. So we decided to throw
a big, big part with a fifteen pound octagon.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Did you know it weighed that much before today, before
moments ago?

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
Yeah, So June fourteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Some people are saying it's the heaviest octagon they've ever seen.
Could you rat like a hexagon?

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Could you rate the quality of what you think this
event will be like related to all the other events.

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
Some people are saying this will be the greatest event
in the history of octagon led events on the White
House lawn. Of course it's the only one, but it
will be the best.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
I mean, his eightieth birthday will be June fourteenth of
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
That's when this UFC is all takes place. You know that, right,
That's Flag Day in America. Yeah, and it was a
great day. It was a great day. Last year I
went to see Metallica in Houston, a great, great show
there in their sixties, but they're still rocking. I like,
in all seriousness, all the you know, obvious aside. You

(01:57:56):
could be the biggest Trumpeter on the planet. You can
be the most anti Republican right whatever this is if
you think that it's going to be a side show
or people, It's going to be awesome, and even the
most staunch anti Trump, anti whatever right now will watch
it and build no, deep down, that's actually pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
Well, think about how many other events just had Ryder Cup. Oh,
President Trump is there and other football games, et cetera,
the super Bowl. I wonder if he'll be there. He's
definitely coming to the game. I don't think we have
to wonder if he's gonna hit this UFC event.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
Because his bed is right down the hall.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
I mean, like, is he gonna wave before he comes down?
Here's the thing, like, like, is he gonna be at
Like Danna said, they're gonna take over DC? So is
Trump gonna be on this ride with them? Be at
the weigh ins? Be it this presser?

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
Okay, you mentioned Rocky Remember the weigh in for the
Apollo or not the Apollo for club or Lang fight?
Where was it at on the steps in Philadelphia? Well,
this is gonna be at the Lincoln Memorial last I checked.
We're pretty prominent steps there.

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
Where did they hold there? Where did the melk was there?

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
He had a dream and now my dream is coming true?

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
Where did they hold the press conference in Rocky four?
When Rocky announced where the fight was going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
Where's the fight? Rock in Russia? After after the training
montage and his beard for the fight?

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
I mean, can you imagine trying to train for a
fight against Drago not in the snow carrying logs on
your neck and back. No chance you could beat him
without that. He had the whole weight of the country
on his shoulders. He's great. He's a great sequel.

Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
Shockingly.

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
A bunch of news around the NFL today, including a
story we should have mentioned in the comparison between Jerry
Jones and Jim Crane. Jerry, what are you doing with
your finger? That's coming up in Football at five.

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
Football at five is underway for a Tuesday edition of
the A Team Sports TX seven ninety. I got a
question for my co host, what's the most you have
ever been fined by your employer for an indiscretion.

Speaker 4 (02:00:13):
We'll never been fined by my employer, so zero.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
That makes one of us. One time I got docked
for an entire week's pay for something I tweeted.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
So apparently the answer. I don't know if this is
the most I think it's the most him. He's still
got a long way to go to catch the other
previous owner in his town, Mark Cuban, in terms of
accumulating league instituted fines. But a report today around the
NFL circles many of the NFL reporters noting that apparently
the league would like to take two hundred and fifty

(02:00:44):
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Two hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
From Jerry Jones for giving the middle finger to fans
this past Sunday. Now, Cowboys and Jets played a little
football game Cowboys one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:02):
I would like for you to read aloud. The word
they use to describe how he did this act starts
with an I and it ends with it. It was inadvertent.
The Oxford Dictionary defines inadvertent as not resulting from or

(02:01:26):
achieved through deliberate planning. So he accidentally did this gesture.

Speaker 4 (02:01:31):
So legedly, Jones was caught on video that went viral.
He was pointing towards fans and briefly flashed the gesture. Sunday,
he spoke Tuesday, that's today, on his radio show. I
said he was interacting with Dallas fans, not Jets fans,
describing it as unfortunate, a little bit of exchange, et cetera.

(02:01:53):
So fine, he can appeal, which presumably he will, and
hit it down from a quarter bill. If he can
explain its inadvertent nature, maybe they will go easy on it.
I don't think it changes the fact. I don't think
there's any dispute about it being flashed, but apparently that
the meeting behind it could potentially lessen the punishment financially.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
And this is an NFL owner.

Speaker 4 (02:02:17):
This truly is money in the couch, two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. I'm sure it'll go to a good
cause and we'll go to Cherry whatever the case is
for fines like this, but Jerry, Jerry very entertaining, Jerry
very much his own boss for sure, and the NFL saying, well,
even though that's all true, you've made us a lot
of money and now we're just gonna want to take

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a little bit from you for an act we'd like
not to have promoted among the others.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Thirty one or.

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
Forty five so owners a lot of family owners out there,
our team here in Houston among them.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
A real quick question about this though. It was just
the one finger, just the one in the middle of
one of his hands. Yes, I mean Bud Adams at
least used too. He got his money's worth.

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
And I the fine I'm sure was nowhere near this
level because when it was.

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
Well, yeah, are you factoring inflation.

Speaker 4 (02:03:08):
At yeah, some factoring the date and time many many
years ago when that would have.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
Happened, it would have been a fifty thousand dollars fine.

Speaker 4 (02:03:16):
So there has actually been a lot of other NFL news,
and we need to revisit some of the things that
the general manager here in Houston had to say, both
about Joe Mixon and about c. J. Stroud and a
few other items. But I did catch the news earlier
the day, a little bit after noon, when the Browns
said we've agreed to trade quarterback Joe Flacco, your favorite,

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to the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
I think it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
I know it makes sense for the Browns. I think
it makes sense for the Bengals because they don't want
to have spent this off season spending their money on
all of the players they spent their money on and
because of Joe Burrow's injury, have it all go to waste?
And Jake Browning is making it look like it's all
going to go to way. He'd made too many mistakes

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in such a short period of time that they had
to do something, and each week it was getting worse
and worse to the you know, just stacking week after
week of gosh, we can't win with this guy. So
they made a move, and he should be immediately the
front of the line. He should be playing from the
get go. It probably, I mean, we were talking about
Joe Flacco and the Browns offense for a totally different reason.

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Joe Flacco, just like he did last year two years
ago against the Texans, he likes to yeah, last year
two years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
He likes to take chances. He likes to chuck the
ball over the place.

Speaker 4 (02:04:34):
He thinks he's really good and maybe for Cincinnati, with
t Higgins and Jamar Chase running around, maybe he will
look good doing that. He didn't look very good in Cleveland.
But with five weeks or four weeks of Joe Flacco
in the Cleveland offense, they weren't doing anything because he
didn't have anybody, just nothing. Ever, worked out for him,
and moving Gabriel totally changed their passing attack. Everything became

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completion after completion after completion underneath, and they also couldn't
actually do anything. But you had a totally different offense
because of it. But the Joe Flacco trade prompted this
from me posting a Browns quarterback timeline, and it goes
back only seven months. The move they made kind of
to kick off their off season was trading for Kenny Pickett,

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and they traded one of their quarterbacks away to get him,
and then a month later, in early April, they signed Flacco.
Two weeks later, they drafted both Gabriel and Trudur Sanders
on back to back days in the NFL Draft, and
then they got to training camp, they added Tyler Huntley,
and then thirteen days later they named Flacco the starter,
and then six days later they waved Huntley, and a

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day later they traded Pickett. A day later they put
Watson on pump, and two days later they signed Bailey's Appy,
and six days ago they named Rome Dylan Gabriel the starter,
and today they traded Flacco. As twelve different moves at
the quarterback position for a team that has no quarterback
today or tomorrow, and they are headed directly to the

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top of the NFL draft in twenty twenty six, well
with Deshaun Watson probably healthy in entering the final year
of his contract.

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
So do you think Cleveland fans were happier or do
you think Bengals fans were sadder about this respective news?
And they're different.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
Kangles fans are just like, go for it. What we're
doing right now isn't working. I'm glad you're trying to
find something. We know what's out there unless a team
that's in it, and the Texans are one of those
teams wants to trade away their safety net, Like who's better?
Who do you think you have a better chance to
win with in the NFL right now? If you're Cincinnati,
Joe Flacco or four or five backup quarterbacks that are

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not really available, like Davis Mills, Like, there's teams that
think they're going to win this year and want to
have a backup quarterback in play should they need him
for a handful of games. Cincinnati thought they were one
of those teams. Turns out, even though you could win
with Jake Browning before, you can't win with him now.
They didn't know that. I don't blame them. I think
they were properly outfitted. It just has not worked. He's
been playing terrible quarterback and they can't continue this. But

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the Texans have a player who's better than that. They
shouldn't be compelled to move him, though, because what you'd
get in return isn't worth what you'd be faced with.

Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
If CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:07:23):
Stroud's off the field, you'd be faced with playing Graham
Mertz or somebody else you signed off the street to
be on your practice squad, and that's no way to
go through an NFL competitive life. Conversely, you mentioned this
off the air the other day. Chargers putting Omarion Hampton
on injured reserve. They've already lost Nijee Harris. They have
searched the street free agents nam Heenes among the players

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that may end up being an answer for them. I've
been talking about this for weeks. I don't believe there's much,
if any market, but I would absolutely take any draft pick,
any conditional pick them Damian Pierce.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
I'm surprised it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (02:08:03):
Maybe in Washington when Eckler went down, and I think
they're fairly well equipped without it because of Crosskey Merritt
and others. I'm more surprised if the Chargers, who believe
they're going to the playoffs and should, but I don't
know what they're going to do in the backfield of consequence.
I don't think their offensive line is good enough to
just pencil the next guy in and think everything will

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be fine. And the more they've played through the season
and the more issues they've had on their offensive line,
the bigger the role that Hampton was playing in the
passing game, which is now out the window also, so
just something to consider. We got a couple of weeks
to the trade deadline. It was talked about briefly by
Nick Casseio today, only in the fact that you never
know what's going to happen. Everybody gets all excited about

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the deadline. He said it will probably be more of
a whimper than anything else. He was also about asked
about a player that has a new home. One of
his own former players has a new home. If you're
watching very very very very close. At the very beginning
pre kickoff coverage on CBS, he saw former Texan Kenyon Green,

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who's on their practice squad, walking the sidelines for the Ravens.
If the Ravens were set to play the Texans again,
you would now see CJ. Gardner Johnson in a Ravens uniform.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
What the plot thickens?

Speaker 4 (02:09:25):
Yeah, I'm glad it didn't happen before this game, only
in that he could have certainly relayed information. Don't really
think it would have made much a difference on the field,
because I think his field play was one of the
reasons why he's not here. He was asked about that today,
for it to happen so quickly and for one of
the bigger marquee, bigger money acquisitions in the offseason, but
he gave his typical answer, not all that different from Dimigo.

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Just didn't work out here. He was great to work
with with him, wish him nothing but the best. Did
what we thought was best for the team.

Speaker 5 (02:09:53):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:09:53):
Cam Robinson similarly signed for eight figures, you know, fourteen
million dollars twelve million dollars in the off season to
get beat out by tay Ersrie and not really ever
even been in the right tackle competition, essentially not see
the field at all for this team other than when
you had to play him in Week one because the
ed Ingram injury, and you had to flip your entire

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line around because he wasn't a true swing tackle and
you can just keep Ursery at left and play him
at right. You had to switch almost everything you were
doing around for that one game and it did not
go well. But he was moved to the Browns. Did
not play last week, not the starter. Despite the graphic
at the beginning of the game that suggests that he was,
he was not and did not play. So why didn't

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it work out? Did you make mistakes? I think Nick
is a smart person. I wonder if you did this
on purpose. Today's the opening day, opening, afternoon and night
in the NHL. Hockey is back, so in describing their
player acquisition philosophy, he said, hey, man, we're gonna, we're gonna,
We're gonna do things. You're gonna take a lot of

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shots on goal. Some will hit, some won't. Don't believe
the shots on goal they took with Cam Robinson or CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:11:04):
Gardner.

Speaker 4 (02:11:04):
Johnson would have been inside the cage regardless of if
the goalie was playing or not, or maybe the goalie
was standing on his head and prevented these from being
biscuits in the basket for Nick Cassario's shots on goal
set it from the jump on the cam Robinson signing,
I get it. You didn't have anybody else. You don't
know what you're going to get in the draft. But man,

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not a good player now. I cannot be a good
player for somebody else. If you want a free agent scorecard,
doesn't look very good, but don't forget or a player
acquisition scorecard ed Ingram has played well despite being ripped
on this show, and E J. Speed is now your
number two linebacker essentially on the field for seventy percent
of your place.

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
Wasn't all bad for Nick Casseio.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
The ad on Sports Talk seven ninety about time.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
It's been like a month or ten since I've done that.
What is up? Hey? You're that time? You're that time
where the Rockets traded for Kevin Durant and it was
like the biggest fish that was out there in the
off season, and it was pretty cool and there were
title odds went up, and you know, everything was great
and we're all excited. I remember, do you remember when

(02:12:22):
for like a split second they were actually tied to
another big fish out there? Hmmm, you're honest. M hmm.
I remember what what if I were to tell you
on this thirty for thirty that there's somebody who still
thinks it's a possibility out there for the Rockets to
acquire him.

Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
This is the kind of stuff where we have the
Major League Baseball is the worst at it. Where where
could he fit? I could see him fitting on this team.
I'm really taking into consideration what that team wants or
if they're even interested. And in this case, it sounds
a lot like I'm canvassing franchises that could in a

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championship if Giannis Anotakupo played for them, and then I'm
eliminating the franchises that don't have the assets likely necessary
to acquire him. And I have not eliminated the Rockets
from that group. So here's my story. Is close enough
they do have the I think if I were running
Milwaukee's team and I looked around the league, I'm only

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going to trade him to a place, preferably in the West,
but only to a place that can get me the
assets I want. And it's twofold trading him to the West.
You're not just trading him away from the team your
most teams. You're most closely competing with You're trading him
to the Western Conference, where let's say the team you've
traded him to is a championship contender, but they had

(02:13:42):
an injury after acquiring Giannis. Maybe it is Giannest, maybe
it's somebody else, And now all of a sudden, instead
of finishing second, third, or fourth, they finished sixth, seventh
or eighth. Now your draft pick gets a little bit better.
Maybe it's so bad. And who you've traded him to,
maybe they're in the playant or who knows. It can
happen in the world. It cannot happen in the East.

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But the Rockets and their assets and their future drafts,
capital and their head coach, oh and their head coach.
My gosh, he's dying to work with Giannis for the
first time ever. Well, don't take it for me, take
it from Bobby Marx.

Speaker 10 (02:14:19):
Well, san Antonio still does. Even after acquiring Darren Fox.
They still have tradable picks to go out. They remember
they have that Atlanta pick, they have a swap in
twenty twenty seven. They still have tradable contracts. When they're
looking at players like Devsel. You know, the one team
that still does Houston. They went out and got Kevin Durant,
but they still have a lot of draft picks to
go out.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
And make a deal.

Speaker 10 (02:14:38):
Of course, a player like a Men Thompson would be
mentioned if they ever became available. Here Remember, this is
a Milwaukee team that has eleven out of their fifteen
players that can't be traded until December fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
If they struggle.

Speaker 10 (02:14:51):
Is there a way for them to improve their roster
in the next two months.

Speaker 3 (02:14:54):
There isn't, so they're basically in a holding pattern.

Speaker 4 (02:14:57):
At some point, you look at what you're doing, and
that was a correct assessment. He's not saying that they're interested.
He's saying they have the assets that could be entertaining
to Milwaukee. And that's perfectly fair, and it's totally normal
for people who run through that exercise long before or
maybe right before a trade ultimately happens. You're going to
get Yannisano Takumpo because you're going to play for the
NBA Championship. You're gonna win an NBA championship. He's gonna

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take you to a place he's been once before from
the begetting back. So how's Giannis at this age? And
I know he's thirty be playing this year as a
thirty one year old player for the most part and
turning thirty one into December. So he's played in the
league's for twelve years, and they made it to the

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title game the NBA Finals, and they won the championship
a couple of years ago when he was twenty six,
five seasons ago. So you're gonna get him now, and
you're just gonna give up what either the players he
just suggested or some comparable equivalent, and he's going to
take you to the title in the West. Moving forward,

(02:16:03):
I think Giannis is awesome. He's definitely one of the
top ten players in the league still and will be
again this year. Just not that interested in seeing the
Rockets acquire him.

Speaker 3 (02:16:12):
Yeah, the ages of the two studs in that scenario
being him and Kevin Durant, they got a three in
front of him, and you're that's not so much the
part that's scary. It's it's taxing the rest of the
roster around them and still trying to be competitive. I mean,
we all know that super teams and all that kind

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of stuff. You know, you try to try to make
these rosters still competitive. You have to have role players
that not only are there, it's not It's one thing
to just have guys around.

Speaker 4 (02:16:44):
These guys they have to fit, like you think. Milwaukee,
after I won the title in June of twenty twenty one,
attempted to put rosters together around Giannis that could win
it again. Clearly the answers yes, whether you agree with
what they did or not, and I don't, but they
weren't trying to lose. They just made a bad decision
or two. And in the series the postseasons that have

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followed the three that Milwaukee made, so not including the
postseason that they missed two years ago. Their postseason series
record since winning the title, the last four postseasons, they've
won one of their four series. They advanced once and
then lost in the semifinals in the East, followed by

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losing in the opening round in the East, followed by
losing again in the opening round in the East. So
he's coming here now for two three years later.

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
Granted he's playing more competitive conference, better coach, probably a
better group of talent, But I don't know who's left
here after you've made this deal. He only has two
maybe three years with Kevin Durant. I mean, like I said,
he comes off a year where he's still right at
the top of the league in so many different categories,

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and his personal playoff performance. He shot sixty percent from
the field off twenty shots a game in the playoffs
last year, averaged fifteen rebounds, averaged thirty three points.

Speaker 4 (02:18:10):
Every number I just gave you, albeit in just five games.
Best in the playoffs last year for a team that
won no series.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
It's just again. But okay, forget all that Kevin Durant
and Giannis together on the floor. That's certainly a double.

Speaker 4 (02:18:27):
Big except I mean Kevin's not He's not playing just tall.

Speaker 3 (02:18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:18:33):
I just don't know how that sounds awful. That didn't
even sound like a basketball team. Oh, they got their
double tall lineup out there. It sounds like two drinks.
I'm gonna give me two double talls tall boys. Yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
How depressed are you?

Speaker 4 (02:18:45):
I mean, I might be with people ones for me
once for them. I thought you were just gonna be
ordering for everybody. Finally got up to the bar and
they finally acknowledged my existence. I finally get my drinks.

Speaker 3 (02:18:54):
I just don't see. I don't envision even with the
super uper duver star that you're adding. I don't envision
top to bottom a better roster after that trade's made.
Totally agree.

Speaker 4 (02:19:04):
So I just is there any part of you that
wants the fun the challenge that goes with it, but
the fun of seeing if it will happen like last
year's roster.

Speaker 3 (02:19:16):
I've said this a million times.

Speaker 4 (02:19:17):
Totally fine if they don't make any changes, because I
think there's a fun and a challenge in watching that
team develop. Let's see if they can get it done.
It's not I mean, some fans would not want to
think that way. I want to make sure we can
get it done. I want to get the best team possible.
I don't care if we have this unbelievable roster, and
of course we're gonna win Dodgers roster, Celtics roster, Lakers.
It's happened plenty times. Sometimes you've won it all, sometimes

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you have it. There is that element of watching it
unfold and making it happen and getting more out of
the guys that maybe could you didn't believe would get there.
And they have come through. And even with the trade
for Kevin Durant, the Rockets aren't the favorite. They're probably
not with the Van Vliet injury, even the second or
third favorite in the West. Now they're among the top
six overall. I'm thoroughly enthralled by watching what comes in

(02:20:03):
the twenty five to twenty six season. I don't know
they're gonna be awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
I think they are.

Speaker 4 (02:20:07):
I don't know that they're gonna beat Oklahoma City in
a series, or the Clippers in a series, or the
Nuggets in a series.

Speaker 3 (02:20:12):
I can't wait to find out.

Speaker 4 (02:20:14):
The idea of adding Yannis at this stage of their
career doesn't make it so obvious they're gonna win, but
it just screams of just go get the best players
that are out there and go win a championship and
let's call it a day, which for some is fine
and some is fun, and just I don't really love.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
It, no, because you would end up trading away all
most of, if not all, of this core that you've
built methodically. We talked about this with rafel Stone. He
was in here, and there's something to be said for
putting this roster, and of course he played it off,
but come on, man, when's the last time the Rockets
tore it down? Think about that? Never they didn't tear

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it down. Ever during Morrey's era, well that's from two
thousand and six to few seasons ago.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
Yeah, they were forced to do that because of the
moves they had made, Like there was no real life alternative,
because once you let your general manager number thirteen make
the moves that you allowed him to make, you were sunk.
He could have he could have been the happiest player
ever during the wearing during the John Waldermarcus Cousins era,
you were never gonna win again with him, right because

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she had sunk your roster with the moves you'd made
at his request.

Speaker 3 (02:21:19):
And going back to like the Yao Tracy era, well,
yao was you lucked out with that pick that you
had like an eight percent It was like a Dallas
this year with Cooper Flagg. And then you were able
to trade the the the core that you essentially traded
well led by Steve Francis, for Tracy McGrady. Before that,
you know, you drafted Katino Mobley on a team that

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had Scott Pippen, Charles Barkley, and Hiquem Elijuan who were
aging out, and then a lot of those we were
traded in the deal for Francis and before that it
was Elijuan.

Speaker 4 (02:21:52):
They had three consecutive seasons with twenty two wins or
fewer bottomed out and you're talking about the franchise that
did not do that. They had no previous consecutive seasons,
three consecutive seasons in franchise history with even less than
thirty one wins.

Speaker 3 (02:22:07):
They had a twenty eight win season when I think
Moe Taylor was the starting four in the early two thousands,
if I recall, but I.

Speaker 4 (02:22:14):
Mean, if you want to call one to oh two
of the early two thousands, I'll give that to you.
I do twenty eight fifty four.

Speaker 3 (02:22:19):
There it is. But you watched every game of that.

Speaker 4 (02:22:21):
They did, and they had been supremely competitive through all
these coaching changes from Rudy to four years with this
guy McHale, four years with this guy Adaman, four years
with this guy D'Antoni, four years with this guy Van Gundy,
very very very competitive. Never tore it down. They had to,
and they did. And now we get to reaping. Now
they're gonna kill people.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):

Speaker 4 (02:22:51):
For ever or that here on the eighteen halfway Home
on the final hour of the show, around five thirty,
gets you caught up on a few items who might
not yet have discussed, need a little bit more of
our time. Also, I mentioned in the final segment of
the show about fifteen minutes out and your opportunity to
win tickets to go see either Ice Cube on his
Truth to Power four Decades of Attitude. It's a North

(02:23:13):
America tour. It's coming to the eight show over to
Toyota Center on October seventeenth. Got a pair of tickets
to see him. Also have a pair of tickets to
see the Cougars. Cougars and Arizona b U OFH homecoming
it is next Saturday, that is October eighteenth, back home
at TDECU Stadium.

Speaker 3 (02:23:31):
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Speaker 4 (02:23:31):
Uhcugars dot com, slash tickets or call seven one to
three go Coogs now to get your tickets. Come early,
be loud and as most of the time per usual,
were red, they worn blue this past week.

Speaker 3 (02:23:44):
Back to red.

Speaker 4 (02:23:45):
And they also have an Oklahoma State early game this
coming Saturday, so October eighteenth, back at home against Arizona.

Speaker 3 (02:23:53):
That is what we have in store for you.

Speaker 4 (02:23:56):
The final segment, what do we have in store for
you today?

Speaker 3 (02:23:58):
On in case you missed.

Speaker 9 (02:23:58):
It, Well, you guys haven't really talked enough about Nick
Cassario's comments when it came to the pressor today did
talk about, you know, Joe Mixon and what his role
is going to be moving forward.

Speaker 5 (02:24:08):
But CJ.

Speaker 9 (02:24:09):
Stroud at this point has really turned the corner. And
his last two games he has six touchdown passes, he
has completed percent around eighty one percent, and a passer
rating around what would it be, oh yeah, one hundred
and forty one point six. So naturally someone had to
ask him, Hey, how do you think CJ. Stroud is
looking after you know, those last two games where not
only did you win, you scored over twenty five points.

Speaker 3 (02:24:32):
Yeah, he's done a good job.

Speaker 5 (02:24:33):
I think the last couple of games.

Speaker 7 (02:24:34):
I mean he's played he's played the position away the
position is supposed to be played, made good decisions, benefficient,
it's completed what eighty one percent of his passes, hadn't
turned the ball over. The reality is and I mean
he said, I you know everybody game birthday which is
last week, and he's twenty four years old. He's still
a young player. So even though he's played a lot
of football, so you learned by doing, you learned by playing.
Each year is going to be a little bit different.
Each opponent is going to be a little bit different,

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Every situation is going to be a little bit different.
He's played pretty good football here the last few weeks.
The most importan things take care of the football. I mean,
go back to the Jacksonville game. I mean, we lost
a game because we basically couldn't take care of the football.
So if you take care of the football, you're gonna
have seventy five to eighty percent shot of winning a game.
So it's hard for I would say young players and
quarterbacks to understand that. But the ones that take care

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of the football the best are usually the ones that
play the best.

Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:25:20):
I noted it when he said it. He's playing the
position the way it's supposed to be played. That's pretty clear,
simplistic way of saying.

Speaker 3 (02:25:27):
And he's right.

Speaker 4 (02:25:28):
I mean, you take take what's there, move the ball
down the field, put the ball in the end zone.
Play well in the red zone, you know, make your
right reads, put the throws on the money twenty three
of twenty seven in last week's game, and helping the
offense score on eight consecutive possessions to open things up
and put four touchdowns on the board yourself through the air.
You mentioned the last two weeks. No quarterback in the
NFL has better numbers, very very small sample size just

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the last two weeks, one hundred and thirty nine point
two rating, eighty two percent completion percentage, obviously no interceptions
to go with the six touchdown. While he's been sacked,
like I told you yesterday, roughly the same amount of
times in every game. He's been sacked twice or three
times in all five games they've played this year. He's

(02:26:12):
I don't even think it was with perfect protection or
when I've given time, I can do this. He actually
said that himself after Saturday or Sunday's game.

Speaker 3 (02:26:20):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (02:26:23):
Partly about that and more about it just did things better.
He was throwing the ball with much more conviction. He
was putting the ball where it needed to be and
on time. He's had enough time to do that on
way more snap.

Speaker 3 (02:26:37):
Was a perfect storm of competency by all involved.

Speaker 4 (02:26:41):
Yeah, and I think people are saying some things about
the offensive line, you know, how they have played differently
a little bit better. I think this has to be said,
so people get a better understanding of what it is
that they're doing. That's clearly better. And you can look
at a bunch of different charts or things like that.
I still encourage you to watch the games and not
be totally reliant on all of the analysis and PFF numbers,

(02:27:02):
and like I said, the charts that show well, if
you're in the upper right quadrant, then it means you
have both a good run blocking line and a good
pat I get it. They do help you paint the picture.
But what's been different about the running game this year,
in my opinion, in all five games than what we
saw almost all of last year. It's not who they
have back there, it's when they're getting hit.

Speaker 3 (02:27:24):
I was charting all the CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:27:26):
Stroud quarterback hits and sacks last year, but I couldn't help.
But notice, well I have to chart the tackles for losses. Also,
the other team spent the entire game in the backfield.

Speaker 3 (02:27:37):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:27:37):
Stroud's under center. He turns around hands to show met
he lost three yards.

Speaker 3 (02:27:41):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:27:41):
Stroud in the shotgun underneath hand off the dar he
lost two yards. Because they couldn't do anything because there
were so many players in the backfield already on running
plays they were getting through then they were beating guys
one on one physically. That's what's changed this year. I'm
not saying it's never happened, but Nick Chubb is getting
the ball and then deciding what to do. Woody Marx
is getting the ball on the move and just running

(02:28:03):
through the hole or bouncing it outside. That wasn't happening
last year nearly as often as it's happening this year.
And that's a huge area of improvement. That makes a
huge difference.

Speaker 3 (02:28:12):
That's why they had to get rid of Larry tunsl As.

Speaker 4 (02:28:15):
You sit here today and they get ready to start
a week from tomorrow or yesterday. In Seattle, Titus Howard
at one tackle who's been extended by Nick Cassero, drafted
the other tackle this past year, traded for the guard
next to Titus Howard at Ingram this offseason, signed to
Jake Anders in free agency this offseason, and drafted the

(02:28:38):
left guard currently which is now Drew Scruggs two seasons ago,
trading up into the second round.

Speaker 3 (02:28:44):
To do so.

Speaker 4 (02:28:45):
They're obviously all truly Nick Cassario guys now, even though
he wasn't the original acquirer of Titus and of note
today so many questions about the rookies and the offensive
line in general, and CJ and the offense and where
they're playing. As he was talking about the offensive line,
he made it a point to bring up Titus Howard.
He's played every position but center. He's played arguably his

(02:29:06):
best football since he's been here. And I think he's
right Titus Howard in twenty twenty five at right tackle
for the Texans. I can't remember a time at any
other spot on this line that he's given this team
better play.

Speaker 3 (02:29:18):
He's played very well. And what haven't you done with him?
Not yet? Well, you don't see.

Speaker 4 (02:29:24):
If you've gotten some of these other moves right, then
you don't have to. You can you see an offensive
line that's both productive, both productive and plus better than
average and not expensive. Ursery, Ingram, Andrews, and Juice will

(02:29:45):
be making nothing in twenty twenty six, and those that
are under contract beyond that, which currently only includes Ersery
will still be making nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:29:55):
That's a good thing since you have a number two
and number three pick to.

Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
Pay this off season. Probably he kind of punted on
that question. Saying it when asked, could you do that
both this offseason? He turned the focus back to twenty
twenty five, they will get their only game.

Speaker 3 (02:30:09):
Well, it only gets more expensive the longer you wait.

Speaker 4 (02:30:11):
He's not the off season is one thing he didn't
say anything about, we're not doing it this offseason. He
made it more of I'm not negotiating with them during
the off week or during any.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
During Anderson comes back after the bye and has a
five sack game, you gonna negotiate then that it's more expensive.

Speaker 4 (02:30:29):
Answer me this question, if you could, do you recall
any player in the midst of their third season as
a first round draft pick, with their fourth year contracts
still yet to play, with their fifth year option yet
to play. You can remember any third year player in
season that had an extension to the home You mean

(02:30:49):
not during year three? Heck, you'd only been on the
field for his second season.

Speaker 9 (02:30:53):
You mean during a year where it's illegal to actually
sign them.

Speaker 3 (02:30:55):
To a contract.

Speaker 4 (02:30:56):
I'm glad you answered it that they're not eligible yet.

Speaker 3 (02:30:59):
You know you got with your details. I don't need
to hear all that before we go to break. By
the way, it's two too. The Blackhawks versus the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (02:31:08):
Welcome back to the In case you missed it, even
though you shouldn't have because it was already mentioned on
the show.

Speaker 3 (02:31:13):
Hockey season has begun. Bring me a team and I
will care it very well. Could happen?

Speaker 4 (02:31:18):
Not that team?

Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
The a on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:31:36):
They're putting twelve years old twelve year olds on TV
now on sports broadcasts. That's analysis.

Speaker 4 (02:31:42):
I mean, come on, it's okay, man, We'll.

Speaker 3 (02:31:45):
Be all right. Carson's facial hair just destroys older than
that guy. Yeah, all right. Would you like to name
who it is? At least? No, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (02:31:56):
We have a television to here. We changed the channel watching, okay,
small shoulders to two black Hawks fans. Yeah, nothing nothing,
Tigers and Mariners. No pitchers have been thrown.

Speaker 3 (02:32:08):
All right, here we go. Pair of tickets to see.
By the way, I just have to say, because you
were doing this earlier, you were teasing what we were doing.
Christ you did in that. You didn't do it the
way Matt Thomas does it. Have you ever heard the
way he reads his name?

Speaker 5 (02:32:21):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:32:22):
You want to go see ice Cube? He does that.
He does too. He goes not to be confused with
ice Tea. It's not the drink and it's not what
you put in the drink. These are two different wrappers.
Very famous, very successful actors, ice Cube actors, ice Cube,
ice Tea.

Speaker 4 (02:32:39):
Hey who runs the Big three? Ice Cube? Ice Cube?
No one says that. Nobody says it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
So if you want to have a pair of tickets
given to you to go see ice Cube live on
his Truth to Power for Decades of Attitude North America
Tour October seventeenth at Toyota Center. There you go. Wex
good tickets on sale now at Toyota Center dot com.
Also a, and that's it, that's what we're giving away.

(02:33:06):
I didn't know that until just now. Wow, what do
you mean?

Speaker 10 (02:33:09):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
Also, well you're telling me that for the first time.

Speaker 5 (02:33:12):
I know.

Speaker 4 (02:33:12):
I just tease them last segment. We gave them away
in the last five minutes, so people who just called
and asked for them.

Speaker 3 (02:33:18):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (02:33:18):
Man, No, we don't have them until next week. Well,
if you if you put it on the rundown, he'll
just read it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:23):
That's almost what happened until I was stopped. All right,
So there you go. I read it last segment. Well,
it says, right there, pair of ticks to see. It's
under the giveaway column, which is where you put them
every day. It says we have them, which we're supposed to.
But that's okay. We're just if we're here for you guys.

(02:33:43):
You want some, we'll get some more. Honestly, it is
probably the greatest final segment on the show's history. All Right,
So here's the deal. We were talking about a potential
other and as I refer to it, big fish that's
floating around out there.

Speaker 4 (02:33:58):
Hilarious that you're talking about that right now.

Speaker 3 (02:34:00):
In NBA circles, so many jokes, my head's gonna explode.
Who was it? Good? I'll give you a hint, not
a wex hint where I basically tell you the answer.
This person, his name, his name was associated with the
Houston Rockets.

Speaker 4 (02:34:18):
All right, Yeah, last night I did that during my
NBA scoreboard.

Speaker 3 (02:34:22):
What did you do? This team?

Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
The player that this team plays for, had a preseason
game last night. Okay, he did not appear in that game,
but his brother did.

Speaker 3 (02:34:30):
Unbelievable. Of course, you're talking about Steph Curry uh seven
one three teammates too. I know they are seven one
three two two five seven ninety. It's not the Curry
brothers seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
It's not Ayisha's husband and the other lesser known person's husband.

Speaker 4 (02:34:47):
Rivers brother in law, Doc Rivers, Austin Rivers brother who's
who's okay?

Speaker 3 (02:34:53):
Doctor son in law?

Speaker 4 (02:34:54):
Okay, Uh, you know the NFL was handing out fines.
You're taking care of all the particulars that they got
a big one two five, So you get that and
y bird gang guy. That's what I was getting to.
So I mentioned this yesterday. It looked like a finable offense.
Whether it was a this is going to be handled
internally by the team, and then the league would say, Okay,

(02:35:14):
you guys find him. Okay, that's good Jonathan Gannon, the
head coach. And because he's fined, and because they're not
an embarrassment, and I think he's done a decent job there,
he's now earned the right occasionally be called by his
name instead of bird gang guy.

Speaker 3 (02:35:29):
What's the record?

Speaker 4 (02:35:30):
They fell to two and three after they gave a
win away a game they should have been leading twenty
eight to six or twenty seven to six, and ultimately
lost with a last light. He's duval, Yeah, because he's
really awesome in there four and one. So he was
not very happy with Emery Demarcado. Amari Demarcado, who had
a should have had a seventy two yard touchdown, but

(02:35:51):
right before he got to the end zone, the end
zone where you need to have the football still, he
let go of the football and it was deemed a fumble.
So not only did they not score the points, they
also lost possession of the football and it ultimately catapulted
them into the one of the most catastrophic, hard to
believe losses in NFL history. Well, he was talking to
Demarcado on the sidelines not long after the play. Mercado

(02:36:14):
was being assisted I think mentally by one of his teammates,
one of his offensive lineman, Paris Johnson, had his arm
around him, and Gannon was just all up in a shace.

Speaker 3 (02:36:23):
You phrased that he was being assisted mentally, I could
have been saying he was consoled, he was being uplifted spiritually.

Speaker 4 (02:36:29):
He could have said that too. Yeah, faint's a nice picture.
Jonathan Gannon came over, was very upset and was screaming
at him, uplift him. Pretty clearly, and then on his
way back to wherever he was headed. Before he left
his side, he clearly made contact with him, basically hit
him with his right hand. Whether it's across his chest
or across his arm, clearly contact was made, and Gannon

(02:36:51):
earlier today apologized for it and said when he woke
up he didn't feel great about it honestly, and read
this article on ESPA long article. I told the team,
I let the moment of what happened get the better
of me there. I try to be stable. So it's
a mistake by me, like everybody else in there, everybody
who made some type of mistake yesterday. It's a pretty
you know, lengthy article with those quotes in it several paragraphs,

(02:37:14):
and then right at the end of the article it
says Gannon also announced the second year tight end Tip
Rieman will go on injury reserve and miss the rest
of the season because of an ankle injury. That's a
big loss, Gannon said. And I just thought that's crazy.
They wrote that has nothing to do with this. Why
would you add write another story, don't mention it at all?
How did you think to put this at the bottom
of your story? And then we get back to Jonathan Gannon.

(02:37:36):
The league has fined him one hundred thousand dollars for
this sideline incident. He's no Jerry Jones. I take it back.
I read it wrong. I actually had it right the
first time. The NFL will not have to take action
right because the Cardinals are handling this internally. The team
took care of it outwardly. We've been in contact with
the NFLPA and the team is addressed the matter.

Speaker 3 (02:37:56):
Can I just talk about the most obvious thing that
we haven't brought up here five minutes of talking about this, Okay,
Jonathan Gannon went up and struck a player, like seriously,
it would take me as an NFL player or just me.
I've never played in the NFL, and I'm standing face
to face with Jonathan Gannon on the sideline and in
front of the entire world. He strikes me. We're going

(02:38:17):
well in this case.

Speaker 4 (02:38:19):
And that's why the emotional uplifting that we're talking about.
Denmarcado was You've seen players who've made a mistake or
had a personal foul, called it or whatever. They don't
agree with Henry fumbling, Well, they go off to the
sidelines and they're both upset and irate or a little
bit out of control with their emotions or the helmet down.
Sure Demarcado was he was upset. Yeah, he needed he

(02:38:42):
wanted it, and I don't think he needed it per se.
But strike him right, he wasn't really and he did
not react to it badly.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
He barely even reacted to it at all. Now, I
will say this about Gannon if that's the way he
described it, because he just it's it's hard for me
to believe that he makes that up or is just
lip service. But like you get up in the morning
and you feel bad, it's the first thing you think
about because you did something you know you shouldn't have done,
or you said something like I used to do this
all the time back when I had a heart. You know,

(02:39:11):
you just think about I shouldn't have done that, And
you know it's that shows me about his character. I mean,
all nice and ease aside, strip it away, like I.

Speaker 4 (02:39:21):
Think there's any chance you come back here tomorrow at
two o'clock. And since then, between then and now, we
learned that he was already aware the team had already
given him his one hundred thousand dollars fine before he met.

Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
With the media.

Speaker 4 (02:39:34):
Oh yeah, and so then you're gonna say, oh, no,
wonder he sound. Oh I woke up this morning and
this is how I felt, you mean, after they told.

Speaker 3 (02:39:40):
You you were And then I'll say I was just kidding
about that stuff I said on Tuesday. I don't mean
any of that. Jonathan Gannon is a terrible person.

Speaker 5 (02:39:46):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:39:46):
Jonathan Gannon's Arizona Cardinals made the AFC South's Weekend of
Week five perfection. Jacksonville closed it out last night. They
went four and oh the best division in football two
four and one teams.

Speaker 3 (02:40:00):
Nobody else has that.

Speaker 4 (02:40:02):
We have more for you in store, as we always
do on nights where there's no astros and there isn't
any or no rockets, or at least not until later
in the evening the night cap. Cole Thompson will have
that for you next here on Sports Talk seven

Speaker 6 (02:40:14):
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