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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Raised.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
My Earl.

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Nolan multified the magnificent roller coaster ride.

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That is Houston.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sports Chill late down for the only homegrown afternoon team
is Talking your Teams. Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are
the A team.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
A Welcome into a Friday edition of the eight Team.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Wex is over there, ac back in the saddle today.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Cole Thompson is our producers.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We take you up until six o'clock, at which point
Rockets Histon's home opener Launchpad coverage gets under way as
the Rockets finally are gonna play their second game of
the season after Tuesday's opener. And ok, see even the
thunder have played since then, and we'll get to all
the ins and outs of twin Night. I'm sure you

(01:13):
saw the video that the two of them shot together
for Rockets social content always freaks me out whenever I
see that, because they're just it's like having two amends.
That's how I look at it, even though I'm sure
Pistons fans are probably like, oh, it's like having two asars,
but seeing them on the floor together is gonna be
fantastic and hopefully the Rockets can even up their record.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
We'll get into all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We will, briefly, i'm sure, discuss the fact that Justin
Herbert had zero problems knocking off Carson Wentz. And what's
left of a Vikings team that I don't know, maybe
if it's not the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
As far as teams.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
That you thought would be at least playoff participants this
year and then in the NFC, they've got to be
one of the more disappointing teams, right the Vikings, they suck.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
They're totally healthy, except for their two bad quarterbacks are
both hurt, that's right, Like Harrion Jones came back, Justin
Jefferson's out there, Jonathan Gernardo's out there until he got
a little banged up. For the most part, they're healthy.
They just think because their quarterback play isn't particularly good.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Do you still think that they think I know, you
don't think they did. Do you think that they think
they made the right decision at quarterback?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
If they think that now, then they're kind of dumb. Well,
but how many teams do you know? It's nice to
think about your future and JJ McCarthy might be their
quarterback of the future, but their present was we're one
of the best teams in the NFC, and they decided, nah.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Right, that's what I mean, Like, you can kind of
twist yourself into a pretzel if you're the Vikings trying
to justify it, and I think a lot of teams
do this. They take a quarterback at the top of
the draft and they feel like they put their own
pressure on themselves almost to This is why the Packers
have always been fascinating to me. They'll absolutely draft a

(02:58):
quarterback in the round, first round. They'll even piss off
their current quarterback to do it, because the guy that's
playing for them right now was drafted when Aaron Rodgers
thought they should have been doing anything but using a
first round or on a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And it's worked out for them now twice in a row.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
But if you're the Vikings, why not bring Sam Donald
back for at least one more year?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well he has to agree to it, and yeah, he
wouldn't have done that so because he knew there was
a better market for him. How many years did he
get from Seattle five? I don't think he got five years,
but he got so much more guaranteed money. It made
way more sense for him to move on, especially since
he was in a comparable position. Look at the team
he's on. The team was ready to win. They already
won ten games without him, so they're basically gonna lose

(03:41):
lose situation. How about the Vikings, Well, do you think
you can win big with Sam Donald? And they thought
probably no, But that also means they put together a
winning roster and they now know they're not going to
win because they're putting their eggs in a quarterback that
probably won't win immediately basket. He obviously got hurt. I

(04:01):
do think there's a difference between what Green Bay did
and what other teams have done, like the Falcons with
Pennix Junior. It's an X on the end, you dumbs
who keep screwing up graphics and what the team you
mentioned did. The Packers a couple of times like the
are the Vikings this year? I should say the Packers
are the ones that are different. You took JJ McCarthy

(04:21):
right out of the gate, You took Pennox Junior right
out of these are top ten picks. There's a lot
more money involved. The money he scales down dramatically as
you make your way through the first round. Aaron Rodgers
was back ten pick of the first round. Jordan Love
was back ten pick of the first round. There's a
tremendous amount of monetary difference between those players like Jackson

(04:42):
Dark back ten of the first round. It's not the
end of the world if you don't immediately commit to them.
For sure, you're gonna play Aaron Rodgers at least one
more year. He's elite. You're in a different situation in
these two other spots. You went out and got Kirk Cousins,
who's basically Sam Darnold, but then you immediately drafted Penn Junior.
I don't I don't know that I would do it

(05:02):
that way because the pressure to play him because he's
making so much money immediately obviously he ended up starting
before the end of his rookie year, and JJ McCarthy
was basically given the job without needing to earn the
job because he's sitting there.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I wonder like, now guys like Justin Jefferson have to
be saying, well, I'm getting paid, I.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Don't know how bad my prime years, yeah, and I'm
wasting it. Well, I don't know that this is, this is,
it's a little bit tied to one other thing. I
can't tell you that JJ McCarthy stinks with any supreme
you know, authority. He's played a game and a half
for the NFL. He's been hurt the whole rest of
the time. I don't know that he'd be performing quite
like Carson Wentz. And give Carson Wentz a little bit

(05:44):
of credit. He clearly clearly is hurting very badly, you know,
wincing after every single throw when it's not even your
throwing arm. That's hard to do to go out there
and give that team whatever he could. Last night. They
didn't score a lot of points for sure. That's one
of the reasons they lost. Lost. The Chargers carved him up. Yeah, well,
I mean Justin Herbert was under pressure for much of

(06:05):
the night, but as long as the first guy didn't
get him, then they gained yards and he threw it.
He embarrassed them with his performance. He was awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
And that side of the football hasn't changed much since
a year ago when CJ was under a duress the
entire game, and that was a big reason why they
lost that game.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And then Sam Darnold on the other side carved them
up right. But I do think Herbert was under pressure
like CJ. That's what I'm saying, But the scoreboard wasn't
the same, and CJ wasn't able to do to that
defense what obviously Herbert did right.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Right for all the people that are on the Herbert
side of that argument that I've just kind of made
up on my own since the offseason, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna fare too well after last night if
we want to start doing that, especially since I think
the Texans are about to get smoked this weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, I mean, you can compare him to whoever you want,
but you probably should start comparing CJ to quarterbacks that
aren't anywhere near as good as justin Herbert, because that's
the group he's in this year. I know it's there
are clearly other reasons. We talk about it almost every day.
It was a big conversation yesterday and the day before about,
you know, how he thinks things are for himself, how
things are moving forward as a team where they are
because his contract situation will it'll come to a head

(07:10):
in one of the next two off seasons. There'll be
discussions about it this offseason. There very well could be
a contract for him this season. He might decide that
that's not something he wants to do. I doubt that
very unlikely a quarterback wants to bet on himself to
get a tiny bit more money down the road for
no reason at all. If they offer him a reasonable,
high market value deal, I'm sure he and his agents

(07:30):
will say it makes a lot of sense to go
ahead and get this and see where things go. Even
if you're dissatisfied with the organization and believe they are.
He won't ever say this. Even if he went to
another team, he would never say this. He'd let his
play talk for itself. But if he believes that's what
has forced the regression and performance the regression in the offense,

(07:51):
then I'm sure he would be happy to take all
the money they can give him and figure out a
way to have somebody else pay him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I want to get into that next segment because I've
got a theory on how that particular aspect of the
Texans future is going to go. I'm gonna dive into
my crystal ball and tell you exactly what's gonna happen,
not just the next offseason, but the next two off
seasons for the Houston Texans, and that's got a big
part to do with it. But yeah, I think, and
we'll get into this as well next segment.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I don't think this is gonna be a particularly fun
game this weekend. The more we get closer to kickoff.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Can't beat mac Jones, huh.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean mac Jones is like fiftieth on their list
of problems that they're having to worry about, and like
the first thirty of them are in their own house.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think the Texans. Yeah, but if mac Jones can't
engineer points against your defense, you're you'll be there, You'll
be in the game.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, that defense got points engineered against it by Sam
Donald last week, who's a.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Light mac Jones passer ratings worse than CJ's. Donald's one
of the best in the league.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm not worried about mac Jones, though, when you talk
about the forty nine ers and you talking about their offense,
I don't. He's also probably fiftieth on that list of
things I'm worried about, Like the first forty nine are
Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I think mac Jones has a reasonable shot of throwing
a touchdown pass to the Texans on Sunday afternoon. Really,
I really do, and I don't think he's played poorly.
They're four and one in his five starts, They've been fined,
they obviously are working through their own injury issues, and
this is the first time the Texans will have extreme
injury issues with CJ. Because he's gonna go out there
and try to win a game. It's only Game seven.

(09:26):
He's not going to be handing off to Joe Mixon.
He's not gonna be thrown an Eco Collins, He's not
going to be thrown to Christian Kirk.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Not ideal, No, and we'll get into that. That's part
of what I want to talk about next segment. But
I'll kind of take what you said and go a
little step further. I could see a situation where that
absolutely is the case because the Texans defense, I've said
it and I still believe it is Super Bowl caliber.
I could see that being the only touchdown the Texans score.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
They'll probably lose if that happens. I think they're going
to but I just don't.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's the lack of confidence I have on the offensive
side of the football. And if you don't don't believe me,
then I'll let you hear Nick Keyley at some point
during the show, and that'll reaffirm what I'm saying. But yeah,
it's not great. I had taken yesterday's show off a
couple of weeks in advance, I think maybe a week
in advance, so you know, you never can determine what's

(10:19):
going to happen while you're gone. As far as topics
that are up for discussion, I didn't have Chauncey Billups
getting arrested after his first game on my BEINGO card,
I'll tell you that much. I didn't get a chance
to listen to any of the show yesterday. I'm assuming
it was a humongous topic because it was all over
my timeline, and it was all over any network I

(10:40):
was watching, except for ESPN, because I mean, god forbid,
they talk about it in the first hour that it breaks,
when they could be talking about the Dallas Cowboys, they
were essentially they got to it around to it.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, they talked about it like five minutes after Sham's
reported it.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I guess I must have missed that when I was
watching when Sham's reported it, And then they.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Tell me to million networks, so I'm not sure where
you were.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, the number one network, the ESPN network I was watching,
took their sweet ass time get on.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And that's what Greeney and his football crew we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, but first take took an hour, around probably an
hour and a half to get to it. You know,
first take, where you would think that it would be
the first topic on a show named as such.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
But now let's.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Talk about let's talk actually, let's talk about games that
happened the night before in the nf SAID and the NFL,
and then we'll get around to itvally hear us.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
We were talking about it. The majority of yesterday's show
was on that topic, and did have some fun with
the comics that took to the podium at the FBI
briefing with their lines about basketball and luck running out
dad jokes, this good stuff. I had a lot of
fun with it, obviously right up my alley. Although it
was seemingly a very serious subject. I mean, there's thirty
arrests running across eleven states. Put the NBA in an

(11:52):
odd spot in that one person was investigated by two entities,
one NC the NBA said, you're going to oh, right,
you're cleared, and one entity said, we're gonna rest you,
along with twenty nine other people of this big sting
operation involving sports rigging points over under et cetera. On
his case obviously the somewhat separate case from the poker standpoint,

(12:16):
But over the course of the afternoon, and I think
even more so today, people are realizing this which should
always be realized. We talk about it with Deshaun because
of the NFL investigation that seem to go on and
on and on, and many other investigations when it's this
type of investigation versus a simple event that took place
Rashi Rice, Deshaun Watson, Ray Rice, those investigations are one thing.

(12:38):
An investigation like this for the NFL to handle, well,
how do they get to the bottom of it. They
need people who are willing to give information up, willing
to tell them what happened, because otherwise they can't confirm it. Well,
they're not the FEDS. They're not. They have no legal
grounds at all, meaning they have no leverage and they
have no power. They have no subpoena power, they have

(13:00):
no really any power. They're gonna ask their questions, but
they can't force anybody to answer them. And they can't
hold anybody over anything. They can't make anybody roll over
on somebody. So the investigations that the league does, I
can only respect them to a certain degree. And it's
not even a personal shot at how they do their work.
What options do they have? Do you want to talk
to us?

Speaker 4 (13:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Uh oh, I guess we can't get to the bottom
of this. Well, let's talk to somebody else. They don't
want to talk either, and they on and on and
on and on. They can't make people give them information
the way obviously, I think if you give us information,
then we won't put you in jail for the next
thirty years. Would you like to talk to us? That's
how real investigations outside of the scope of a sports
league can be handled. And that's why I think what

(13:41):
we saw happened yesterday happened yesterday. But Terry Rozier, Chauncey Billips,
Damon Jones named, a lot of other players were definitely
involved but not yet named, and that's going to happen shortly.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
And when that happens, the NBA has a big, gigantic, disgusting,
stinking pile of you know what problem on its hands.
Uh maybe, I mean, you're how many names would it
take for you to start thinking to yourself?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Huh? I wonder how many of my team's games were
affected by this? Right? But then what happens, I'm not
a fan anymore. I stopped paying my money. I want
to go to games. I'm not buying leap people. Yeah,
that's when that's when it becomes prom if that happens.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I think that's the problem, the quote unquote problem
part of this. So yeah, that's certainly something else we
can get into. Oh yeah, the World Series is getting
underway tonight. Yeah, George Springer, let's go Jays. That's what
a lot of people in this town are saying. So
all of that and so much more on a Friday
edition of the program.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Coming up next The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
This Pon.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
The AEAM Sports Talk seven ninety Friday edition of the program,
Joey said, by the way I got, I went down
a rabbit hole the other night, this guy mashes, Oh
my gosh, it's so good. Like I sat there and
laughed for like thirty minutes of.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
The photograph of a photograph, No, no, photograph of a
photograph of a graph.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It was a guy that you know, there's a lot
of these accounts that will like take music and mash
it up with another room type of music. No, no, no,
not that one, although that's a good one too. This
is like, oh, these actually sound good together. We didn't
predict that.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
But this guy takes a step further because he plays
two characters. It's the same guy.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
One of them is the DJ playing the aforementioned mashed
up music, and the other guy he plays is a
guy who walks in the door because he hears it,
and then he likes it. He realizes what two songs
have now become one and he starts dancing to it.
And I must have sat there for it was over
thirty minutes. Anyway, I wasted some time there. We do
that on social media. The Texans, they could be wasting

(15:50):
some time trotting out the team on Sunday. I mean,
they have to play, they can't forfeit. But I like,
Christian Kirk hasn't played all year essentially, but now NK
goes out and you're gonna be relying on, like who's
your best receiver on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, the only one that you have any confidence, and
probably based on where things are, is one of two players.
He has confidence in Xavier Hutchinson, and he's been out
there more than anybody this year. And then I think
you found that you could should have long since been
able to trust Jalen Nole to be a useful part
of your offense. I don't know what took them so long, CJ. So,

(16:28):
I mean, it's not like he's not been on the
field at all. He clearly hasn't been on the field enough.
You know, a fifteen, sixteen, twenty twenty one snap games
are stupid, and they were doing that regularly throughout the
beginning portion of the year, and that was when Christian
Kirk was not back yet. And then the three games
that he played, those numbers were down to and then
this past week you really had no choice. Well you
shouldn't have needed to been forced to put Jalen Nole

(16:50):
on the field. I still can't figure out why there's
no more connection. It happened with CJ and in years
past with different receivers. If any receiver in any NFL
game plays fifty snaps, how's he not targeted five times?
Four times? I mean, Jayden Higgins was on the field
better than sixty percent of the snaps. He saw three
balls and didn't catch any of them. I don't know
how that's even possible with what the Texans are trying

(17:11):
to do offensively. So you got those three guys and
Braxton Barrios and probably Jared Wayne. I don't know how
many snaps you're saving for him, but it should be
roughly zero. It is an issue, But you've also been
with these guys longer than Christian Kirk, to be honest
with you, because of how much time Christian Kirk has missed,
and I mean practice time. He's played in half the
games and he's now gonna miss more than half the

(17:32):
games when they get to Game seven on Sunday, You've
worked more with everybody else. He clearly gets the number
one reps with you, So technically you probably have thrown
more practice balls to him because of how the rotation works,
and Davis Mills might have thrown more balls to the
other two guys. But there's no excuses. You can win
with reserve receivers everybody else has. It's what the league does. Next.

(17:54):
Man up is a legitimate thing to say. And if
you think you know, I would hate to think, well, yeah,
I know, we took him at one with the thirty
fourth pick and another one on day two, so but
it takes time. No, it does not, It absolutely does not.
They're on your team. They made your team. They outplayed
other players that you cut from your team, so they

(18:14):
have to be good enough to help your team, and
they absolutely are. So I'll make it happen. And that's
the funny thing.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Under normal circumstances, i'd be like, absolutely, next man up.
As cheesy and cliche as it sounds, that's absolutely the
mentality they should have.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
But with this line and the inability to have that
protection or just it's it's not even about he's got
to keep his jersey clean all game long, all sixty minutes.
He can't even be hit. I'm not asking for that.
I'm just I guess if if the results were the
lack thereof that we were getting before, when virtually the

(18:53):
entire receiving corps was healthy relatively speaking. You know, one
guy hadn't played a time, but you got it. You
had a lot of weapons out there you thought you
were going to and that was the result. I guess
I'm just not that confident that it's going to be
not much much worse this week.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It shouldn't be much worse, because it's been awful from
the jump. If people haven't noticed, true, it's been terrible.
Your number one receiver. He's not just your number one receiver.
He's among the best number one receivers in the NFL.
And he's been out there for as many snaps as
you would have wanted all season long. Up until the
end of this last game. He's caught more than four
balls in a game once. Nico Collins has more than

(19:29):
four catches in an NFL game in twenty twenty five
with CJ Stroud one time. That's embarrassing, that's awful. That's
a very poor manipulation of your play calling and your progressions,
and everybody's at fault for it. And it was brought
up several times to Nick Kayley yesterday about and hardly
even matters at this point because Nico's not playing. But
that's kind of my point. With the guys that are

(19:50):
stepping in for him, I'd be willing to bet one
of the two of them has their first five catch
game of the year, because it's inevitable. It has to happen.
They don't have anybody else this point. Well, it should
have happened with Nico every time this year. He's a
number one receiver. Who's stopping him? You are right, not
the other team. You're stopping him partially because of what
you're calling, and obviously partially because CJ. Stroud can't sit

(20:14):
back there and you know, wait for the timing of
the play or make sure this happens. They probably aren't
calling the enough of the right plays just to make
sure Nico catches the ball. He does have a couple
of drops, but that's not really why he doesn't have
enough options. But twenty missed connections between those two, forty
six targets, twenty six catches way too high for a
number one receiver, and forty six targets through six games,

(20:37):
and he had ten targets in the game he got
hurt in last week. That's just simply it's not enough.
It's it's why he's not producing like what we're telling
you he is. He's not this year. He's not a
number one receiver this year in terms of anything related
to production. Yeah, you were just talking about comparing CJ.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Stroud to different quarterbacks and in different echelon or different level,
different tier, or whatever you want to call it, you
kind of have to do the same thing for Nico Collins.
But again, I don't think it's entirely or maybe even
close to a majority his fault. It's more about what
the Texans have put around him or done with him.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's all perfectly well and good, and not really even
pushing back against it. I think you're going to. I mean,
Jamar Chase has fifty eight catches. If you want to
compare number one receivers, that should tell you right there
there's a difference between what their team is doing and
probably a difference in their talent. Because I don't really
want to go back and look, I can if somebody
wants to again, Well, Jamar Chase has fifty eight catches.

(21:33):
Joe Burrows, their number one quarterback. He couldn't have had
more than twelve catches from Joe this year, right, So
He's caught forty six balls from Joe Flacco and Jake Browning,
and the majority of that being Browning. Nico's caught twenty
six balls from C. J. Stroud. I mean, come on,
that's bad. That's not Actually, that's worse than bad.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
That's egregiously awful, and it's it's egregiously awful with the
offensive coordinator you brought in because the other guy wasn't
good enough, because he wasn't innovative enough, because he wasn't
dynamic enough, he wasn't able.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
To adapt, and you're watching the exact same thing happen.
I mean, tell me this as we go to break.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Is it as simple as if you brought in, because again,
Kaylee's a first time play caller. If you brought in
I don't know, this this generation's NORV Turner.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
If you I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I'm trying to think of who the name would be
that would even remotely be available. Is it as simple
as that?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I can't imagine we would think less of their offense
had they done that.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like, take everything else aside, and the offensive line still
has its issues, but you have a proven commodity that
was somehow available to you this offseason calling plays instead
of Nick Kayley. Is this offense not at least fifty
percent better from a production standpoint, from a play calling standpoint.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Still asking the same you know you're asking them to Hey,
I know we suck at this yea. And it's the
genesis of building a good offense, our offensive line play
and our protection schemes. But figure it out. It'd be
easier to figure it out if you've been doing it
for ten years. Then when you've been doing it for
ten weeks, but you're asking him to do something that's
kind of impossible, who overcomes it to a good overcoming

(23:12):
it so they're not embarrassing is one bar. We'd love
for them to cross over, so they could be what
ninth eighth in the AFC, be a four and three
team or a four and two team. That'd be great,
But they're still fighting the same uphill battle, which now
that we're in it, you do have to adapt. And
it is why Nick Kayley is here, and it is
why Bobby Slok isn't here. It's not that Sloak was

(23:33):
a poor play caller. We can debate. That's not that
his offense was poor, we can debate that. It's that
here's what we're asking you to do with what we've
given you, and we don't like how you're doing it,
so we're moving on from you. And then they brought
somebody else in with almost the exact same pedigree and
ask him to do the exact same thing, and he
is failing in the exact same way. Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
That's as simplistic as you can make it, because until
the real problem in the room is addressed, you're basically
putting band aid on cancer. That's that's kind of how
I'm looking at it. All right, we will take a
quick time out. We come back best of X, like
we do every single day at this time.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
That straight ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Did you see this?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
So we're putting out between five and him posts a day.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Four hundred people were arrested. Four things that they said
on social media. History repeats itself. Type, Ben, you'll succeed.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Never doubt that you're the one to prefer no one.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
You believe you're the best of X. Nothing's gonna ever.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Top you know you're the best of it posting every
single day and you're the best of X breaking the
entire enginet.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
All right, it's that time of day. We love it.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
We also love to hear WEX scene stellar imaging here
on the PROG. All right, so this whole gambling thing
broke yesterday morning, relatively early.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I did.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Like I said earlier, I didn't have Chauncey Billups being
arrested on My BEINGO Card. I didn't have Cash Bettel
talking about the NBA like five minutes after Opening Night
on My BEINGO Card. It's like two worlds that I
like to dabble in colliding and I just did not
see that coming. But here we are, and I honestly

(25:27):
am surprised it took him this long the way in
you know who I'm talking about, Wex friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
We've had him on before.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Tim disgraced NBA referee Donnahe Tim, I'm best friends or
at least was with Scott Foster Donahe he's our favorite
former ref. He's the guy that fixed the two thousand
and two Western Conference finals. He's the reason that the
Lakers had a three peat instead of the Kings having
a championship. At least that's how Sacramento fans look at it,

(25:58):
because they haven't sniffed kind.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Of success visits to the finals. Yeah, but who were.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
They playing that year? It was like the least competitive
one of the three, right.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, whoever it was was probably better than the
team the Rockets would have played. After beating the Warriors,
but they probably weren't very good.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Everybody thinks, no, that was the next year because they
beat the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
All right, what did Timmy D bring to the table today?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
All right, let's hear as he weighs in on fixing
basketball games on national television.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
I think this is just a tip of the iceberg,
like you said earlier, and I think you're gonna see
maybe more of a bigger scandal coming out of the
college level because you have these young athletes that aren't
going to make it to the next level and somebody's
going to offer them money to maybe fix a game
and only win by twelve rather than fifteen. And they're
going to take that money because they're going to need

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a way to support their family. So I think it's
just a tip of the iceberg in many different ways.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, interesting that he said that that exact thing happened
in Blue Chips, and I'm bringing it up because we
played that clip yesterday, so we're not gonna played again.
And keep in mind the setting, the timing of it.
What he's actually talking about is so unrelated. He's right,
but it's unrelated to what just happened. What just happened,
and what I'm sure has happened before and will continue

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to happen, has a lot more to do with an
individual player impacting his individual numbers, which may or may
not impact the outcome of the game. But it doesn't
matter if it impacts the outcome of the game, because
that's not what he's encouraging people who have this information.
He's given them to wager on. What he just mentioned was, Yeah,
we're still gonna win the game, we're just not gonna

(27:34):
win by as much. We're not going to cover the spread.
The spread's just for the gamblers, as we heard yesterday
from Tony who played for the Dolphins, and Pete Bell Nicknulty.
But that's been going on forever. It's totally unrelated to
why everybody knew when this method of wagering on pro
sports for an individual player's abilities each game, whatever sport

(27:58):
you're talking about, that's what's gonna happen. That's undoubtedly what's
happening and undoubtedly will happen everywhere where it's legal to
do so. But what he's actually talking about really isn't.
That's not what's really happening here. He's totally right and
it's totally obvious. Of course, That's what why I keep
pushing against all the why are these Why would show Hey?
Why would Chauncey? There are millions upon millions upon millionaires.

(28:23):
You're risking it so you can be the face of
a card game. You're risking it so you can help
a bunch of people make two hundred thousand dollars that
you get a cut of. Well, in the case of
show Hay is like an egregious example. It's in college, yes, right,
they aren't to those people, He's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
That's way more susceptible to this whole scenario because of
what we're talking about, especially those and this is not
just the NBA. And you don't think there's there's some
defensive back that was very good in high school, best
in his state, so he could make it onto this
college team.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
But he's not.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
He's never gonna sniff the NFL, so he's going to
strike while the iron is hot.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's not just I wouldn't think it would be limited
to now.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It's probably easier, I guess, to directly affect a game
of basketball than maybe any other sport out there, because
there's so many more possessions for each team than any
other sport out there.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Baseball's got to be the hardest, I would think to shave.
I mean there's again individuals versus team. Yeah, no question
it is. The other games are much more. You know,
I contribute to the team, putting doing this well, or
you know, I drop a pass, I fumble the football,
I go out of bounds before I get to the
first down. There's lots of ways to do it in
a football game. Impacting your own numbers been impacting the team.

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So this Donneghe comment obviously was found on social media.
Uh huh. Let's see how people reacted to someone who
would know what this is all about. Vinnie says, I disagree.
College kids generally are not in debt to the mob.
They lose their money to online gambling sites.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Vinnie also bringing up a good point, like how bad
is your life going if you're in college and you're
already in bad with the mob, but.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
It's because of them, not you. You're not going to
insert college name and you're a really good player, and
you're like, how can I get some need? I need
a loan, I need some money, I need big money.
I need to go find somebody who's connected to that.
Somebody I know probably knows somebody that knows somebody that
can get me there, or they know how to get

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to you. They know you can be the they're coming
to you now. I don't know that for a fact. Obviously,
maybe there is an option, Maybe there is a need
for more money, Maybe you do need a loan. Maybe
you're not getting the nil money you thought you were,
and you yes, that's one way that it happens, and
that is how a lot of other people get in debt,
like when you run a hardware store and then you
get in debt to Tony s we'll call him on

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an HBO series, and then you want to sit for
his poker game, so you don't want to pay up.
That's probably a dumb thing to do.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Did this make you want to watch rewatch the Sopranos
even more than you already probably were thinking?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
And occasionally I don't want to rewatch it because it
always comes up on the reels and they just you know,
they remind me of how awesome it is because it
is just a series of I'll just pick out these
ten episodes and have Paully and Tony and Christopher just
cursing the whole time.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Plus that's a lot harder to rewatch a show that's
a true hour long per episode, not like it's forty
five minutes, because commercials were baked in for an hour long,
sometimes in excess of an hour per episode, and there
was what ten seasons.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's a lot of investment. About Ann's comment suggesting sports
betting needs to be stopped and only allowed in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I saw that, and I'm telling you right now as
someone who does not really gamble. I mean, I've tried
a few, I've dabbled in a few apps, obviously earlier
this season. But here's the deal, Like this is such
a you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
It would take regulations coming down from each state, let

(31:56):
alone federal to get that to realistically happen, and people
would still do it because much like prohibition, it's not
gonna work. People are always gonna do this. It's a vice.
It's a very attractive, addictive vice.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right. But the amount of money that all the entities
that we talk about on the show, you hear in
between the parts of the show when we're talking constantly,
there's so much money they know they can make once
it was legalized elsewhere, and once this method of wagering
has been much more readily available. It's the amount of
money these companies have been able to make, and that's
obviously paid part. Yeah, but that's the thing that's really

(32:31):
that's what's really changed wagering everywhere and the ease with
it with which it is to wager. I don't have
to find I don't have to go to a barbershop
or a my dentist and find him who knows somebody
who's our bookie. I just have to make sure my
phone has power.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
You didn't charge it last night. You're not making bets
otherwise you're good to go pretty much.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So yes, listening to Timmy d is always a great
way to go. I definitely appreciate what phenomena posted there
said no bleep Sherlock.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety, I hate you, Cole.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It is the a team Sports Socks seven nineties Xac
col Thompson with you on a Friday edition of the program.
So Rockets will drop out that a double overtime opener
in ok See Thunder have played since then. I feel
like everybody else in the NBA has played since then,
Rockets will get together with a men's twin brothers team tonight.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
How did I do good? That's like, I think that's
about how WEX would have done it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And I feel like if I'm Kadi and I went
above and beyond to take accountability for not one, but
two gaffes late in the game that he says are
the reason they lost, which is kind of funny in
and of itself because.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's not the only two reasons. I mean, they had
a twelve point lead. Well, both of them were in
the final moments of a game. You win, he thinks. Otherwise, Yeah,
and he's probably right. I feel like a guy like him.
I mean, we've gone to painstaking links to talk about
the bag of chips on his shoulder. I feel like
he can't wait to get out there tonight, especially since

(34:21):
it's the home opener and just let it rip, to
just shut everybody up, and because he already has to
shut everybody up. Yeah he does, I hope not he does.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I mean, look, this is an extreme example, and nobody,
nobody takes anything this guy says seriously. But the day
after the Rockets lost that game, you have a nationally
syndicated radio host who I will not name, but he's
on our affiliation unfortunately, saying is Katie a bad fit
in Houston?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's total rage bait. It's totally abdogial coming from somebody
who doesn't know about anything.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, hints why I said nobody should pay attention to anything.
He said, Yeah, it's from Afar.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
But like that's the thing that's funny that he would
see that stuff. It doesn't matter who's saying but he
doesn't need it. He acts like he needs it, just
like Jordan acted like he needed It's so silly. What
if he said that the game. We spent all this
time leading up to the to the season, and I
don't remember anybody, not not a single person, a single
person that I respect, or a single person that has

(35:23):
an egg avatar. I don't remember a single person wondering.
I wonder what the fit's going to be, Like, I
wonder if he'll fit in there? Right, That's why it's
a little con did something about the basketball look like
he didn't fit? No, because you didn't watch the basket.
I had just said it because you have a national
show and you want people to respond. It's very simple
Even if you said, do the Rockets regret the trade,

(35:44):
it still would have been obnoxiously stupid, but it would
have made more sense than is he a bad fit?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
The fit's never been a question. The fit wasn't a
question before he played a single minute in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, so needing to respond to that, Kevin's more than
welcome to do it if he'd like. I can't imagine
doing that much.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
You think if Kevin was aware of that, he would
look at that person and say he's an idiot.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
He might, and he probably would need to like. The
fit wasn't the issue. The fit was who they played,
you know. Fit was the magnitude of the talent level
on the other side. And think how much better Oklahoma
City probably will be when they're healthy. Same with the Rockets,
whenever that is next year, the year after, Dorian Finney
Smith this year, and Cred Van Vliet next year. Right,
but they're missing an All NBA player, You're missing your

(36:26):
seventh man, yeah, Dorrian Finney Smith is not. Yeah, but
Fred Van Vliet, Yeah, but he's not playing this year.
So I know what you're saying. I guess he could technically,
I think that's true.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
But the position he plays is the least depthy that
they have.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
If I can make up a term on the fly, Yeah,
that's the thing we actually that's just the exact opposite
of the KD. Willie fit comment. Who didn't think this
They only had a short period of time to begin
thinking this, But this was a dramatically difficult player to overcome.
They don't la talent, but they lack something that Fred

(37:03):
brings and it just wasn't on the roster. And I
think we'll find out that it's still it's not gonna be.
You're not gonna find it in Read. You're not gonna
find it in Aaron Holliday. You're gonna find it in
a Men Thompson or anybody else. You're gonna see if
you can win a different way. You can see if
you can win in spite of not having that or
when you are allowed to because of your financial situation
and the timing of some of your other signings this offseason,

(37:24):
when you're allowed to, you will seek a deal and
try to fill a hole that you just don't believe
your roster can fill. If you think that's truly holding
you back, I said that pretty simply a couple of
weeks ago. They got two months to figure it out.
I mean, wins and losses are great, and being at
the top of the standings versus trying to make your
way up the top of the standings. I think they'll
be fine in that regard. I don't think they're gonna

(37:45):
have to two months from now say well, we're a
ten and fourteen team. This is a big struggle. I
think they're gonna win basketball games while still trying to
overcome an area of their team that may or may
not ever get better with who they currently have.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
And I know that they've got a very i'll just
say road heavy schedule in the first few weeks here.
But I think they're going to win a lot of
basketball games. I mean Detroit tonight, Detroit's good. I think
they should win that game at home.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I just do. I think they should destroy Brooklyn. I
think they should destroy Toronto. I frankly think they should
go to Boston and destroy the Celtics, even though they
still have some star power and they're still a very
good defensive team Jason Tatum being out, I just think
the Rockets should win that game. Same with the Mavericks
at home in Memphis and then you.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Get probably your first real Titanic matchup if things keep
going this way. Just based on what we saw the
other night, I mean, some people on this station are
saying that he's the greatest skilled player to ever play
in the NBA after like one season opener, but Victor
Winbin Yama, if he continues doing what he did on
opening night, then I guess November seventh would be a

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big date.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Otherwise, I think think it's a big date. It's a
national game. Yeah, well it's from a star power standpoint,
it is. But yeah, he's a star. He's not the
only starf correct, Both teams have them.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, so yeah, I think that the Rockets will be
doing a lot of winning.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And I think it's going to begin tonight.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
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Speaker 1 (39:33):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety two lifelong
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Speaker 2 (39:56):
It is the A team.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Sports Talks seven to ninety Space City Home Network Friday
edition of the show this time of year, wex what's
your favorite show? Is it Friday or Monday?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Because the three in between, dud I was totally into
those your choices. I don't know CSI Miami Law and Order.
The summer I turned pretty I don't know. That's why
I literally thought you were going, I'm like, what's your
favorite show? You know what I think of when you
were actually asking me which of the five show days
of the week do I like?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
During the football season and basketball season and World Series season,
this magical time of year, which is the very end
of October, It's my favorite time of the sports season,
except for the Astros aren't doing their part this year.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I don't know that there's a good answer, because even
though this will sound mean, it's not what I mean
to say. Yesterday's show was awesome. Thanks. I know you
weren't here, but that's not the reason it would have
been even better. I had a couple of times where
I said, I don't really want to get into this
today because AC's not here. I'd rather talk about it
when he is here. But olation yea, with everything that

(40:59):
was going on around the NBA yesterday, I mean, it's
the third day of the season and I'm not talking
about Wemby's forty point game. I'm not talking about Anthony
Edwards come back. I'm talking about Terry Rosier, Damon Jones
and Chauncey Billips. I'm playing bad jokes about your career
has been benched and your lux run out? Do you
have that? And the Toronto Rangers are one of the

(41:21):
teams we're looking into. The Toronto Rangers. The Toronto Rangers, yes,
one of the four NBA teams that was cited yesterday
for us. Oh, I didn't see that. Seriously, there's nothing
really to see. It's so Cash you just want to hear.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Cash didn't have any of these liners because he was
too busy talking about four different mafia crime families. I
thought it was three originally. But what you don't know
is this is also an episode of The Sopranos. I
was not expecting that. The answer is no.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I was just and this will be probably several movies,
well multiple, let's put it that way. There's no way
it's just gonna be one, whether it's a documentary, actual theater,
whatever it's going to be. There is going to be
movies made about this. And I can't get away who's
writing the movie.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Chauncey Terry or damon, no one of those guys who's
writing screenwriter.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
None of those guys. They're gonna be in the hole
or they're going to roll over on soon. Here's the
thing I was thinking about, other than the main thing
I wanted to get to this segment. If you're one
of these people and you're in a position to roll
to make a deal, well, aren't you in some semblance
way or another. Aren't you rolling on organized crime members
and so in so doing which you already signed up

(42:37):
for this when you got in bed with these people.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
That's just the way, guys, Why you don't do that.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
You're signing up to have a target on your back
for as long as you're breathing for the rest of
your life.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Very tough spot to be in, for sure. Well, you
put yours.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
The Portland Trailblazers, the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Toronto
Rangers told.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
You, come on, man, it was that the guy was
that the the attorney, what's his name out in the
Eastern District, Joseph.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
He got it.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
Look the Los Angeles Lakers and the Toronto Rangers, and
you can bet on that.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Actually you can't because they don't exist.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Listen, there's no doubt your luck has run out.

Speaker 8 (43:19):
Violating the law is a losing proposition, and you can
bet on that.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Never any supply. Thanks guys, Not thanks to Chauncey and
and Terry and Damon and the victims jokes, but thanks
for benched. Oh, because the NBA season tips off. His
career is already benched. Not for injury, but for integrity.
His career is benched, not him. She didn't even use

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it right, Not for injury, integrity.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Nobody says, hey, that guy's career is benched. They say
his career is over.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But that guy who's laughing at that, Hey, man, your
career is over. Okay, I'm done at the podium. You
know what that sounds I see you gotta deliver a
Where did you get your clothes at the toilet store?
That's what she sounds like if she would have said that,
if your career, man over. Steve Carell trying to be
intimidating during the rumble in the back alley. As far

(44:17):
as I'm concerned of you who are listening yesterday, I
thought each one of those lines was delivered brilliantly.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's because you're affectionately referred to by other staff member
here as Dad, which was actually put forth by an
ex employee, because Brian Lilima is the one that started
calling you that.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
You almost fell out of your chair during this segment.
You thought it was so funny. It was, I know
it was. Can we ask a very very important question?

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I wish we would.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
How dumb is Terry Rosier specifically, because you can say
the same thing to Chauncey Billups. But he's making coaching money,
which is good money, but in the relative.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
He thinks made more money from the NBA Terry or Chauncey.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, but Chauncey was making that money before he was
part of an illegal and gambling sting. I'm talking about
where they're at right now in their lives. Terry Rozier
basically traded out a twenty six plus million dollar contract
for essentially a game check, right because that's about how
much he was making off of.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, the two hundred k that they brought back to
his house and talnage. You ever take what he makes
per game given his salary. It's what I said from
the moment this came to light. It's from a March
twenty twenty three game incident, and it was known several
months ago, I think a year and a half ago,
And that's what I said at the time. And the
amount of like your future. This also applied to Malik Beasley,

(45:40):
who was hitting free agency this offseason. He's not have
a contract for he would have had a contract at
the point in time the story came to light. Even
though the Pistons may have been aware of some things
that were happened, I don't think they were aware of
that he was on the verge of signing a new,
long term, multimillion dollar deal, which obviously was pulled back
off the table. So you it's not a out. I'm

(46:00):
putting it risk the amount of future earnings or what
I'm currently making in Beasley situation. And I don't think
we know enough about Rosier situation yet. It was I
need to get money right now because I am in
big trouble.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, and again going back to the Dnahiees of the world,
and even what was the guy Michael Francis that that
was part of the mob somehow got out and was like,
I'm gonna go on a speaking to her about this.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
That's certainly a decision.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But he was making all the rounds, and he would
talk about scenarios like what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
About these people as an expert, you get desperate because
they've got guys who will break your kneecaps if you
don't do what you're supposed to for them.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
That's why you don't. I just but going back to this,
I don't like, I can't. I can't put myself in
these people's shoes because I don't have that itch to
scratch or I don't have that temptation around me or
or whatever it is. And everybody has their own weaknesses
and their faults and their vices or whatever you want
to call them.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
We all do.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
But I just when it comes to this topic, specifically
this subject, there are so many things that I'm outweigh
each other type of guy, like what's the good that's
gonna come from this? And what are the bads? And
I just feel like, if it's a scale, there's so

(47:23):
many bad things that can happen to you doing this
I'm not talking about gambling. I'm talking about illegal gambling
and not a lot of good and these people that
made all this money. At the end of the day,
Terry Rozier is just not a very smart person. You
can strip it all away, and that's the conclusion I
come to, because only an idiot would do this.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, the decisions that led to this happening are probably
at least some of the decisions you might be talking about,
because it seems like you'd want to avoid even getting
anywhere near that pass. So whatever the early decisions were
that let him down this way, that had him needing
money or had him going through it, going through making
this additional money in addition to his extremely lucrative NBA contract.

(48:07):
He's in the final year of a ninety plus million
dollar four year deal, which is obviously significantly more money
than he was in this one particular instant that's been
documented if to be true. But I'm just gonna make
on this. I'm gonna have all these people wager on
me and win because I'm not going to play long
enough to hit any of these personal prop.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Other thing, you didn't think that that was gonna get
flagged when an inordinate amount of money is going on
the under for Terry Rosegier statistics. How stupid are you?
And the thing about is Chauncey Billups is not. I
mean he did something stupid.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Keep in mind, you just said how stupid are you?
And it was flagged and the NBA investigated it and
said you're fine, you can keep playing. I have had
to bite my tongue a lot about the NBA. I
brought this up earlier. If it doesn't, if all these
other things aren't at play the poker game. And the
intertwining of this is there are multiple people apparently including

(49:02):
Damon Jones, that are attached to both of these game
rigging and poker playing scenarios. But the NBA can't investigate
you like the FEDS, like the authorities, And so I
think the idea that you're going to get caught and
taken down by the league, even though that is what
happened to John tay Porter, it is not this.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, But I think that because the NBA and any
sports league would look at this from a pr standpoint, first,
they can't help themselves because that's that's money, Okay, that's
their money that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
It would behoove you. I hate using that term.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
It just makes me sound like I'm ninety to get
in front of something like this and be the ones
who in the Because I'll tell you this, an investigation
into gambling that you're conducting is a lot better than
an investigation into gambling that the FEDS are conducting.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Theah no question, and there were players on the NFL
side have been suspended for certain periods of time, Jamison
Williams and I think five other players at one time
Calvin Ridley when he was a Falcon before he became
a Jaguar, for gambling on his team that he was
playing for. The NFL sent out an memo today reminding
all of its player members what you can not do

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and what you are allowed to do, because there are
things we mentioned it on the NBA side, Gamble all
you want, provided it's not on the NBA.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And my problem with that is, and again this might
be because I'm somebody who just doesn't do it as much.
It's so disingenuous to have any sports league say, hey,
we're gonna make a ton of money on this thing
right here, but god forbid you do it.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
See. I don't think that I talked about that a
bunch yesterday. Like, let's say they didn't take any money
from Prize Picks, fan Duel, any Underdog, any of them.
So the players weren't gonna gamble with those services because
they're not partners with the league. They were going to
do it anyway if they felt compelled to do it.
They're not doing it because the league is taking money
from them. The league would have wanted to do whatever

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keeps the integrity of the league above board, regardless, but
why would they do it regardless when you could do
it the same way but also make billions from these sponsors.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
And what's so funny about this is we're still living
in a society where a lot of people think David
Stern made Michael Jordan walk away for those eighteen months
because he had a serious gambling problem.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
So we do think that, but it didn't happen, Or
we don't think that, but it did happen. I think
it's plausible, but I don't know for sure. That's understandable.
We will do what you are just mentioning stone cold
locks coming up at fort point thirty. Good good segue,
but we will run and you can bet on that.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Presumably sometime soon we should see the Texans injury report
here in the Central time zone. We've already gotten the
Niners injury report for their upcoming game noon ye in
h Town over at NRG Stadium. Nothing really out of
the ordinary and unfortunate for them expected. No Rock Party,
no Ricky Piersoll, no Bryce Huff which was not definitely known,

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and a few other players may or may not play
in this game. Texans will likely be without two players
that are on the active for Auster Nico Collins and
Christian Kirk. It's possible there could be others within injury designation,
but I don't think anybody else will be ruled out,
unless maybe it's Jalen Smith, only because they don't want
to activate him. He has opened, had his practice window

(52:36):
opened a hamstring injury for the rookie cornerback who otherwise
likely is their third corner if he's deemed healthy and
he has practiced in full at least Thursday. Today's more
of a walkthrough, so I'd imagine he might still be
listed as a full participant, but it would take a
roster move in them having extreme confidence in him. Being
able to go out there if necessary for who knows
how many steps, So that may be the only thing

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we're still wondering how the Texans will go in play it.
Otherwise we will likely see another week where healthy Damian
Pierce is not active on game day, may see a
situation where Christian Harris is not active on game days,
not much of a special teams player, and he is
their fourth linebacker when they play two or three at most.

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Those are the things you'll be looking forward to on
Sunday as the Texans and Niners get together. Texans come
to the game at two and four off an extremely
disappointing evening of football, last game of the week Monday Night.
Niners come into this game as one of the many, many,
many five and two football teams that the Texans will
have played or are playing this week already this season,

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or are on their schedule for later this season. So, naturally,
when you figure out where where's the line belong and
whose money's coming in, where the two and four Texans
two and a half point favorites over the five and
two forty nine Ers. Really, yes, really, I.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Thought after Eco Collins was ruled out the number would
move it has not been ruled out, so when he
does in the next five minutes, you don't think so
not at all.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Okay, you want to make a bet, no, because there's
nothing really to lie. I'm actually doing that on purpose. Yeah,
it's given the the topic of conversation.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
By the way, you see you you said this in
the first hour. I believe there's gonna be big names.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, I think when if you I wish we actually
were reading through it, and you know, like I used
to read through every single word of the eighty billion
Tony busby clients. I wish you guys could have remembered
those days. Well, what sick.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Freak thing did he do in a suit today that
we get to read on air and we make wex
do because it's way more funny.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
When he and they were they had details, and they
all would when you got to that section of the
of the filing and here are the charges, it was
the same charges every single time, and slight variations on
exactly what happened. And obviously it was intentional from Tony side,
but I would have liked to kind of walked through
exactly why they named and arrested Damon Jones, names and arrested,

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Terry Rozier saying with Chauncey Billups, and there were others
that we don't know, But over and over and over
in the indictments they referenced things that happened within the
framework of an NBA team or an NBA game, or
here's why this person is also a part of the indictment,
but not arrested and not accused of any wrongdoing. But
it's player four, and player nine and player seven, and

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so if you read some of the writeups of what
Damon Jones was alleged to have done with the information
on player four, a prominent NBA player on this particular team,
and the knowledge that he was not going to play,
and with how prominent this player is the impact on
the game, which led Damon's co conspirators, I guess, to

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then obviously take the information he gave them, which he
was paid for, and wager on that prominent player team
to lose. But they never named the player. We all
know who it is, and everybody that covers the team
clearly knows the reason why their relationship was there. Damon
Jones was not working for the team. He was essentially
working for Lebron had access to the facility, was there practice,

(56:13):
had access to the locker room, all those things. So yes,
quite clearly we know who that is, but not named
in that. And I brought it up yesterday. I wonder when,
because he's injured, so normally those players you could, they don't.
They're not made available, and they don't talk after games.
I don't talk after practice. They may or may not
even be there. I wonder when he's answering questions about this,

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not so much that he's involved, but because of who
he is to the league. Like Al Horford was talking
about this a little yesterday. Nikola Vusovich talked about it
yesterday and he said what I think we all knew
would be a part of it. And it's not because
they have these entities, these daily fantasy sports entities as
partners of the NBA. It's simply because it exists. Vusovich

(56:57):
was talking about fans at the games. Hey, Nikola, go
out there and get a win for us. Hey man,
go play great. Well that's what it used to be.
Now it's I need fifteen rebounds from you. Go out
and get me ten rebounds tonight. This is what he's
saying that they hear from fans at games now, which
I don't doubt. I never thought it wouldn't happen. But again,
don't relate it to the fact that the league happens

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to be earning money from them. It's only because they exist,
not because they're tied to the league.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I mean, Damon Jones, I was yesterday years old when
I had somebody on my phone that I personally knew
had been investigated by the fedans.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
You think he's the first. I mean, I don't know
the extent of your contact list. I've got a lot
in my rolodecks.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I'm pretty proud of what I've built over my twenty
plus year career or whatever time.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
You do, know, you know a lot of people. In
a previous version of the network we're currently on that
covered the Rockets, I did a show just him, just
him and me. We did a show on Houston Rockets
basketball in the NBA. Yeah, well, I don't welcome to
CSN Houston right than now defunct.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I I don't think like does Roger Clemens count.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Uh he was investigator?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Sure that a count he testified in front of Congress
lot I can't be twelve. Nobody believes that Roger Nor
do we believe that you put icy hot in certain
areas on your body to get mad before you pitched?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
And I love Roger. Why that's very Michael Jordan looking
in an iPad, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yeah, I got mad that somebody said something and so
I took it out on them on.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
The floor, versus I put icy hot there. And what
if you accidentally did it and it worked and then
you just said, well it works. Let me ask you
a question about that. Okay, we're talking about putting icy
hot in the your nether regions? Yes, do you ever
get used to that? No, that's why it would continue

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to work.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
It's not a usual feel good point like you'd never
kind of get I mean, that's no pun intend numb
to it.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
That's what the try lambs did. Jeez, you did what
we put icy hot and there? What uh u in?
You know? I wasn't even talking about Damon Jones. Oh see,
like I said, I'm sure there's more.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Former NBA star Kevin Garnett was among the former athletes
who took part in a twenty nineteen private poker game
tied to individuals indicted in the DOJ's operation Royal Flush.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
By the way, did we ever bring up the time
did the operation two investigations, which are somewhat tied together,
they obviously had two separate names. The poker related investigation was,
as you just said, called what Operation Royal Flush, and
then the operation that dealt more with the sports rigging
basketball prop bet altering was called what. I don't remember

(59:53):
that operation nothing but Net? Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
You're not making this up. I'm not making it up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I mean, the possibilities are endless, so you kind of
have to choose the best ones.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
And by best I mean worst. How about operations swish?
Why'd you go nothing but Net? But it's not Yeah,
but it's I don't know. I think they were trying.
I mean, I know their luck has run out, and
I know they're benched their career and all, but their
career is bench Operation Royal Flush in terms as as
Cash sees it and saw it yesterday when he spoke

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ongoing investigations but thus far successful, they would have done
very well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
The FEDS to reach out to a sports talk show
host to characterize some of these lines, Zingers, they thought
they were just totally delivering.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
You specifically brought it up to bring Kevin Garnett to
the forefront. Yeah, that was Pablo Tory, by the way,
that reported that. Yeah, he finds out this is what now.
I don't know how much we talked about it yesterday,
how much everybody understands the the nature of that particular
that card game, and it just card games in general,
Card games in general huge part of an NBA player's liketicipate.

(01:01:06):
But you don't have to, but a lot of players do.
You're you're on them constantly all throughout the year. You
may play. We know about what happened with Gilbert Renez
and Javaris Crittenden. We know about Charles Oakley, we know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
What happened with Will Purdue on the last dance where
he said, I'm not playing for those high stakes up
with those guys at the front of the plane who
make that money.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's only to illustrate that it is something that a
lot of players will do. Idle hand doesn't mean they
will participate in illegal correct card games. It's not necessary.
It just indicates that it is commonplace and see the
sports in general. It's not specific to the NBA, but
I do think it is much. It may be much
more prevalent there. But what you said attacked like, repeat

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what you said, Garnett attached to games run by those
that were indicted.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
It has nothing to do with him necessarily doing and
probably not doing anything wrong. But of course, if you
see a Hall of Famer NBA champion, which Chauncey Billups
by the way, is both of those and all the
VP of the finals. Uh, but you you can attach
their name to that, it's total clickbait.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I think. I mean, he played, yes, but did he
do anything wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Well, unless he did the only reason you're saying his
name is because, oh, this is a big fish pablotory.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
What you don't think Kevin Garnett did anything wrong by
participating in these games? I don't. I can't say that
for sure, is what I'm saying. Man. He would have
to really be in the dark to not have done
anything wrong. Well, some people would have you believe they are.
And one last thing before we do take a break
in its stone cold locks real quickly. Both Terry Rosier
and Chauncey Billups attorneys did release statements yesterday. I gave

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you one of them yesterday. As it happened during the show,
but miss before we close up shop today, we'll tell
you what the attorney on behalf of Chauncey Billups had
to say later Stone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Cold Locks the once Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Remember that in Magic eight Paul a nice little shaken.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Look at this I'm getting late tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
You can trust whatever it said, or you could trust
these two guys named Adam. It's a crap shoot either way,
but these are your Stone Cold Locks, Stone Cold Set Shop.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Thank you, Steven, What God? I love that man. Friday afternoon,
halfway through our three signature segment Stone Cold Locks. Last
week he just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Walks around his ranch in Vegas and cleans up like
animal poop. That's what he does now and makes videos
out of it talking about his cats.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
What a life. Ponchos a great cat. For those that
have been falling along with our Stone Cold Locks. As
we give you our fifteen picks five apiece each week
we do connor run through where things have been, We'll
give you our college football game of the week we
all must make a pick on, plus the Texans game,
which is Niners Texans. But it was pretty noticeable to
me when we emerged from last week as we look

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at the Week eight results with at least three of
our five games correct as a group each one of us.
That was not a great week, but an absolutely unbelievable
week for the Yahoos that we are. Week one, before
we knew how dumb we were, we actually got nine
of our fifteen picks correct. That was until Week eight,

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the best week of the season for us. We managed
to finally get the double figures as a Trio ten correct,
five incorrect, and for this second consecutive week, three of
those five were because all of us missed the college
football game of the week. I didn't feel bad for
you guys when they hit seventy eight and you guys

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took under fifty six and a half. But I did
feel bad for me when I to old my wife
as we were watching the game end between Georgia and
all miss this is a guarantee. I don't even need
to watch it. It's absolutely going to finish as Georgia
getting a totally unnecessary eight point victory, which is exactly
what did happen. They won forty three to thirty five.
But we also for the first time, got the Texans

(01:05:18):
game all correct. Now we all took the same thing.
We took the over and thanks to the extremely important
we made it into a one score game finish. It
didn't finish at thirty nine, it finished at forty six.
We all hit the over over under this week for
the Texans is the same as it was a week
ago at forty one and a half. I just mentioned it.
Texans are two and a half point favorites. Our college

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football game of the week this week, with all of
us within one win of each other, is Texas A
and M at LSU. We will have that game for
you right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Joined
in progress with this being the home for LSU football.
Begin the afternoon with a two o'clock coverage time start
for Texas and Mississippi State. Obviously, the Cougar game as

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usual over on a nine point fifty and that will
begin at six o'clock. They are taking on Arizona State
in a rather important Big twelve tilt. But we get
started with a college football game of the week. Your
other three selections along with it, save the Texans for
the finish. Aggie's are two and a half point favorites
at LSU with a forty nine and a half point

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number the over under call. You always go first.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I could see a scenario where somehow Texas A and
M finds a way to ruin their good tidings, because
if it's Texas A and M, and they're supposed to
find a way to mess things up. But this team
is built different this year. I like the quarterback playing.
I like having both Marcel Reid working, mccasey, Conceptscione and
Mario Kraber. They're healthy. I'm gonna take Texas A and
M at minus two and a half. Let's go on
over to Bloomington, Indiana, arguably the hottest team and maybe

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the best team in college football, the Hoosiers playing host
to one of the hottest teams in college football.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Ucla.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
India is gonna win this football game, and we're gonna
see UCLA get back down in reality. But twenty five
and a half points, with how well UCLA has looked
offensively over the last three weeks, yeah, I'm gonna take
the Bruins with the points.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Tells any Kurt Signetti, saying, whoof all this work for
the last fifty plus years. I made it. I got
my money. This contract is unbelievable. I don't need to
do this anymore. I don't need to work this hard.
I don't need to I don't need to fire up
my team, just kind of quote unquote pack it in
on the intensity. Yet not yet, okay, not yet. A

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couple more years.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Texassissippi State long Orders are gonna win this one. But guys,
last week Kentucky finished with over three hundred and forty
five yards. They outgained first down them twenty six to eight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
They meaningless hollow yards in between the twenty. Score some
points Kentucky, and maybe you'll win the game. Texas has
no offense.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
I'm taking the under under forty six and a half
and I'm going psycho mode with this last pick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
First time in the history of stone cold locks, either
one of these teams has found their way onto the board.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Montana minus second.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I mean you have an issue, they have a problem.
I can I ask a favor of you? Yes, please
do not analyze the game. We hurt your pick, We
respect your pick. We've got your pick. It's logged. It's
on the graphic now, ac if you wouldn't mind. He
doesn't want to hitting over for you. He doesn't want
to hear about Montana. The Grizzlies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I hate Montana as a bear cat. By the way,
all right, I'm taking the under on the Aggie's LSU game.
I don't really even know why I'm owing eight in
college picks this year, So screw you college football. Titans
at the Colts. There's no way, even with you know,
Jonathan Taylor and the Colts involved, even if they do
run the score up, and that just means they're gonna

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be handing off and draining the clock as much as possible,
because I don't see any way, shape or form that
the freaking Tennessee Titans combined with the Colts can manage
to put more than forty seven points.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Again, the average points scored by those two teams combined
in the games they've played against other teams thirty three
point one for the Colts, thirteen point seven for the Titans.
That is forty six point eight on the notes, what's
the number forty seven and a half. I'm taking the under, Okay,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
It's a pretty smart pick, just like I think, and
I think I'm gonna look very quickly on the fly here.
I've taken an inordinate amount of Cowboys games this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Cowboys at Jets, Packers at Cowboys, Cowboys at Bears. Yeah
you have. And aren't they all blue all but one
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yes, I've done very well picking Cowboys games with the
over pick because they score a lot, and I think
they're gonna do that again this week, even at Mile
High Stadium, even against the Broncos. By the way, how
come noboderver talks about the the altitude when it's NFL games.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
No one talks about that. Not only the NBA physical
ailment that has you not playing the game, yeah, but
NBA games. Oh, you're running up and down on that floor.
You're gonna get out of Brett. Well, they're running NFL games, yeah,
But in the NBA games, you're playing both sides, so
you're out constant. In the NFL, he just takes sit
on the bench, grab some ox from H two oho,
and head on back out there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
All right over on that game in Mile High and
over on the Packers and Steelers game, I think Aaron
Rodgers is going to want to really light it up,
and I think he's going to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well, we'll save our Texans pick for the other side.
For you radio listeners, those that are watching us on TV.
I think you have a pretty good idea of what
you're taking because the graphic has been up. I like
Cole will take Texas A and M to cover the number.
I think they would have won the game outright anyway.
So at minus two and a half, that's certainly not
a big enough favorite status for me to look elsewhere.
I know BYU is a different team on the road,

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but I just think they're so much better than Ohio
Iowa State just playing out period. Really. Yeah, I for
some reason I thought i Woa State would be good,
but then I watched them play their first game overseas
and I quickly realized they are not, and BYU's not favored.
So I will take BYU to cover as two and
a half point. Dogs match you on the Cowboys Bronco
over and I'm gonna take Baker Mayfield's team to beat

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the Falcons by more than four and a half points,
as you should. Yeah, they're obviously gonna be without Mike
Evans for a bit, No Godwin and Bucky is not
back yet, but Igbuka is good to go, shod White's
perfectly capable, and tes is gonna find the end zone again.
Like I said, forty nine ers and Texans. Texans are favored.

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We'll tell you what we think is going to happen
to that game, at least as it relates to our
stone cold locks when we return.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
The a on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
All right, we gotta get to the rest of our
stone cold locks because I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Pretty simple, I think with the offense discussion that was
so offensive earlier, Yeah, I don't think there's much belief
in the Texans putting a bunch of points on the board,
considering the Niners may have played some good teams and
good defenses, but now they're playing the team that is
the hardest to put points on the board against in
the entire league, the Texans, who are also coming off.
While it was a loss, they did turn the Seahawks

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over four different times. Maybe that leads to more Texans points,
but I think the belief is that won't lead to
a lot of Niners points against the Texans defense. So
we all took the under at forty one and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
By the way, I wanted to ask you guys, since
I'm zero for eight with college picks, nice honestly discriminated against,
I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Oh that's cool. Well, you guys know, I don't watch it.
I just don't, So why not discriminating? But you can? No,
But I have to make that pick every week, but
you're allowed to watch it. You're telling you, yeah, I
know you watched one game you won that you went to. Yeah,
I did watch that one. Good allowed for you to

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ask us questions, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Don't want to ask you questions. If it were up
to me, I would pick nothing but pro games, is
what I'm saying. That's not very clear. Every single one
of your other picks, other than the week when you
have Cole, he does nothing but pick college games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I'm going to do what I can to win it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Why I'm feeling any Having said all that, we all
basically have the same record exactly, basically meaning I'm behind
the two of you. You have eighteen wins, we have nineteen.
Good luck catching up? I know, all right, But what
do you think of my pick on the Texans? No,
on the Knowledge game. I think LSU has shown an
ability to hate the end zone. That that sounds right, Okay,

(01:13:30):
I'm just that's what I thought. I just wanted to
confirm the Aggies aren't going to score enough I think
to get it all by that's but that's that's a
lot of points for a team that doesn't score over.
I don't the Aggi's defense has allowed a lot of points.
It doesn't feel like they're bad, but that has happened
in too many of their games.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Can I push back just a little bit with you
ac The last two times that they've been on the road,
they've allowed forty points.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
So that's why I should take the over. It's too
light now LSU's score forty That's what I'm saying, where
it's like it's more about the Tigers. Yeah, how many
points the last time LSU was at home? How many
points did they score? Like it's it's not about how
bad the other team's defense. It's like I said, I
don't think the Aggie's defense even though the numbers, especially
last week, that were put up against them show you.

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I don't feel like, Okay, LSU can breathe, they can
they can get something done against this defense.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Is there any game this year where Brian Kelly would
lose his job after losing game?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
He's not losing. He's not losing his job in season
under any circumstance. But probably he's at least his seats warm,
they're also five and two, and if they win this
game at home where they're only two and a half
point underdogs to a top five team, well then all
of a sudden, there's six and two with an extremely
impressive win.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
But see, that's just that's that false sense of his
security that the Texans always used to have when they
were winning divisions with Bill O'Brien and it was crapped
competition division.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Then you're getting into do they want to fire him
because they know they can't win super big or do
they just want to fire him because they're unsatisfied with
where they are, or pray to God that he goes
to Penn State. I don't that he's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Not going to Penn State. But the point is is
that that's what you're praying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
You would, Okay, you're praying.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
For him to get out of the contract. That way
you can make a higher and gonna do over. Basically,
I will say, if he loses this one and then
loses to Arkansas, all bets are off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
The Aggies aren't losing this game. I don't. I mean
they can. I don't think LSU is totally worthless and
incapable of that they're going to lose either. That's more
about how good the Aggies are. I think the Aggies
are legit. I mean, we've seen it so far this year.
As the teams rise up because Texas and Penn State
and a few others have fallen so far back, we
keep getting these new teams up near at the top five,

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and then they keep falling right back out of it
because they haven't been able to win in the games
that have followed. Indiana's there now, I don't see them losing.
But the Aggies, like maybe Ole Miss, like maybe a
few others that if Miami similarly, I think they're actually
better than all those teams. Their schedule is incredibly difficult,
so an undefeated regular seasons doesn't seem likely only for

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that reason. But it's no different than just trying to
do how NFL coaches do. But I just focused on
the Aggies each individual week. Can they win this game
this week? Every week, when we get to analyzing who
their opponent is, you'll be able to make it, Yeah,
they're gonna win this game. There'll be eight, and oh,
there'll be nine, and oh they'll be ten and ozer
and maybe you'll think, well, they're not gonna win. Well,
just focus on what is the task at hand, and

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maybe it won't seem so daunting. And they've also had
a bunch of other starts where they've had really, really
nice starts, and the schedule was softer on the front
than it was on the back, and all of a sudden,
the six and oh start was an eight and four,
I believe is how it goes an eight and four seconds.
That sounded very do your job right now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Of curiosity, can either of you tell me without looking
up at the Wexler research team, when was the last
time in Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
A and M won in Baton Rouge. I don't even
know how often they have played there recently twenty twelve, Nope,
nineteen ninety four, So, oh my gosh, between nineteen ninety
four and this Saturday, how many times have they played
at Baton Rouge? Fourteen? Fourteen times over thirty years? The
two years.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I thought for sure at some point during the Manziel
era they would have played there and he would have won.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
I just realized that they had been together so long
and obviously seeing them every other year in that venue.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
So Manziel did play there and they lost they lost?
How what was the score?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Was it bad? Like?

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
I mean, I'm not saying he won all the games
when he was a quarterback there, but that that was like, honestly,
that was the closest I think that the Aggies have
ever gotten to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Like Vincente last time that they went, they had a
ten win season and SEC play.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Oh boy, look what's happening? Are you answering that person?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah? Outside of the Notre Dame miracle, what's A and
M's most impressive win? Signed by locked on and so
I responded with, so you watch them and think they
aren't good like enough already with the what have they
give me their most impressive win? That's for the dumb
committee members at the end of the year, when we
analyze who they have beaten and who they haven't beaten,

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and is this an impressive win or is that impressive?
When it's okay, it's absolutely okay. I can't believe I'm
still saying this. To watch them play football and analyze
what kind of team you think they are, it's okay
to actually watch them play and think this is a
really good football team, which is all I'm trying to say.
I'm not impressed by their record. I'm not impressed by

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the fallen enemies that they've had along the way. I'm
just telling you, when I watch them play, I think
they're very good. And I look at the rest of
the country and think there's probably not very many, if
any matchups where the Aaggs would be on the field
and the other teams on the other side, and I
can't I'm gonna say, well, the Aaggis aren't god enough
to beat them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
They've beaten four of the worst teams in the SEC,
mostly by just one side.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I didn't ask you to talk about Texas. That's what
I would response with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
By the way, it was thirty four to ten in
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Again, that's not the point. I made my point, and
I just made it on the air. You never recognize
who they've had. I just said the front side much
softer than the backside. You know that their schedule, Know that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
If you talk too long on this station about LSU,
his Spidey sentences are going.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
To go off.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I love that Gordy is listening. I love that he
is so a lot of time. He was in attendance
at one of the Marquee SEC games last week with
the worst team in the conference playing the Longhorns, so
he's got some intel on what both of those teams
look like.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
I tell you, why is it called death Valley. I
wouldn't call it that. I'd call it a live valley.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
It's gonna be for Brian Kelly. The shoe might fit
at the end of the season. I want to go
to a game there. I've never been it, Gordon, I
want to go. It's one of the best experiences in
college football. All right. The Aggies are Alabama currently appear
that they're the only answers to who's the best team

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in the SEC. I think Georgia can be argued, so
maybe there should be three. But if that's okay to say,
and I think Gordy would agree, Cole agreed, like how
bad can they be? They're in the conversation for answering
the question who's the best team in the NA Alabama?
Why do we think they're so bad? Then? Why do
we knock who they've beaten? You know, are they good
or are they're not good? We'll find out record wise

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when they play everybody else. But what I have seen,
they look like a good football team. I'm sorry, I
think the Aggies are good at football? Is that so wrong?
Be careful driving to Toyota Center The eight on Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Put icy hot in certain areas on your body to
get mad before you pitched.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
And I love Roger. Why that's very Michael Jordan looking
in an iPad, isn't it ah off to that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
I got mad that somebody said something, and so I
took it out on them on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
The floor versus I put icy hot there. And what
if you accidentally did it and it worked and then
you just said, well it works. Let me ask you
a question about that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Okay, we're talking about putting icy hot in the your
nether regions?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Yes, do you ever get used to that? No, that's
why it would continue to work. It's not a usual
feel good point like you'd never kind of get. I mean,
that's no pun intended, numb to it. That's what the
try Lambs did. Jeez, you did what we put icy
hut in there?

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Uh u? N You know, I wasn't even talking about
Damon Jones. Oh see, like I said, I'm sure there's more.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Former NBA star Kevin Garnett was among the former athletes
who took part in a twenty nineteen private poker game
tied to individuals indicted in the DOJ's Operation Royal Flush.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
By the way, did we ever bring up the time
did the operation? Two investigations which are somewhat tied together,
they obviously had two separate names. The poker related investigation was,
as you just said, called what Operation Royal Flush, and
then the operation that dealt more with the sports rigging
basketball prop bet altering was called what. I don't remember

(01:21:58):
that operation nothing but Net? Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
You're not making this up. I'm not making it up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I mean, the possibilities are endless, so you kind of
have to choose the best ones.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
And by best, I mean worst. How about operations? Swish?
Why don'd you go nothing but Net? But it's not Yeah,
but it's I don't know. I think they were trying me.
I know their luck has run out, and I know
they're benched their career and all, but their career is
bench Operation Royal Flush in terms as Cash sees it

(01:22:32):
and saw it yesterday when he spoke ongoing investigations but
thus far successful, they would have done very well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
The FEDS to reach out to a sports talk show
host to characterize some of these lines, zingers, they thought
they were just totally delivering many conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
You specifically brought it up to bring Kevin Garnett to
the forefront. Yeah, that was Pablo Tory, by the way,
that reported that. Yeah, he finds out this is what now.
I don't know how much we talked about it yesterday,
how much of everybody understands the the nature of that
particular that card game. In addition, it's just card games
in general. Card games in general huge part of an

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NBA player's life. Aticipate. But you don't have to, but
a lot of players do. You're you're on them constantly
all throughout the year. You may play. We know about
what happened with Gilbert Renez and Javaris Crittenden. We know
about Charles Oakley.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
We know what happened with Will Purdue on the last
Dance where he said, I'm not playing for those high
stakes up with those guys at the front of the
plane who make that money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
It's only to illustrate that it is something that a
lot of players will do. Idle hands doesn't mean they
will participate in illegal correct card games. It's not necessary
it just indicates that it is commonplace and see the
sports in general. It's not specific to the NBA, but
I do think it is much It may be much
more prevalent there. But what you said attacked like, repeat

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what you said, Garnett attached to games run by those
that were indicted.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
It has nothing to do with him necessarily doing and
probably not doing anything wrong. But of course if you
see a Hall of Famer NBA champion, which Chauncey Billups,
by the way, is both of those and all the
VP of the finals, but you can attach their name
to that, it's total clickbait.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
I mean, he played, yes, but did he do anything wrong? Well,
unless he did. The only reason you're saying his name
is because, oh this is a big fish problatory.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
What you don't think Kevin Garnett did anything wrong by
participating in these games? I don't. I can't say that
for sure, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
He would have to really be in the dark to
not have done anything wrong. Some people would have you believed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
One last thing before we do take a break in
its stone cold locks real quickly. Both Terry Rosier and
Chauncey Billups' attorneys did release statements yesterday. I gave you
one of them yesterday as it happened during the show.
But mister, before we close up shop today, we'll tell
you what the attorney on half of Chauncey Billups had
to say later. Stone Cold Locks the a t on

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Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
Remember that magic eight ball A nice little shaken.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Look at this I'm getting late tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
You can trust whatever it said, or you could trust
these two guys named Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
It's a crap shoot either way. But these are your
Stone Cold Locks, Stone Good Shop. Thank you, Steven, What God?
I love that man. Friday afternoon, halfway through our three
signature segment Stone Cold Locks last week.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
He just walks around his ranch in Vegas and cleans
up like animal poop. That's what he does now and
makes videos out of it talking about his cats.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
What a life. Poncho's a great cat. For those that
have been falling along with our Stone Cold Locks. Since
we give you our fifteen picks five apiece each week
we do condor run through where things have been, we'll
give you our college football game of the week. We
all must make a pick on plus the Texans game,
which is Niners Texans. But it was pretty noticeable to
me when we emerged from last week as we look

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at the Week eight results with at least three of
our five games correct as a group each one of us.
That was not a great week, but an absolutely unbelievable
week for the Yahoos that we are. Week one, before
we knew how dumb we were, we actually got nine
of our fifteen picks correct. That was until Week eight,

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the best week of the season for us. We managed
to finally get the double figures as a trio ten correct,
five incorrect, and for this second consecutive week, three of
those five were because all of us missed the college
football game of the week. I didn't feel bad for
you guys when they hit seventy eight and you guys

(01:27:01):
took under fifty six and a half. But I did
feel bad for me when I told my wife as
we were watching the game end between Georgia and Ole
miss this is a guarantee. I don't even need to
watch it. It's absolutely going to finish as Georgia getting
a totally unnecessary eight point victory, which is exactly what
did happen. They won forty three to thirty five, but
we also for the first time got the Texans game

(01:27:25):
all correct. Now we all took the same thing. We
took the over and thanks to the extremely important we
made it into a one score game finish. It didn't
finish at thirty nine, It finished at forty six, So
we all hit the over over under. This week for
the Texans is the same as it was a week
ago at forty one and a half. I just mentioned it.
Texans are two and a half point favorites. Our college

(01:27:45):
football game of the week this week, with all of
us within one win of each other, is Texas A
and M at LSU. We will have that game for
you right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Joined
in progress with this being the home for LSU football.
Begin the afternoon Une with a two o'clock coverage time
start for Texas and Mississippi State. Obviously, the Cougar game

(01:28:06):
as usual over on a nine point fifty and that
will begin at six o'clock. They are taking on Arizona
State in a rather important big twelve tilt. But we
get started with the college football game of the week.
Your other three selections along with it. Save the Texans
for the finish. Aggie's are two and a half point
favorites at LSU with a forty nine and a half

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point number. The over under call you always go first.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
I could see a scenario where somehow Texas A and
M finds a way to ruin their good tidings, because
if it's Texas A and M, and they're supposed to
find a way to mess things up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
But this team is built.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Different this year. I like the quarterback play. I like
having both Marcel Reid working, mccasy conceptscion and Mario Kraber.
They're healthy. I'm gonna take Texas A and M at
minus two and a half. Let's go on over to Bloomington, Indiana,
arguably the hottest team and maybe the best team in
college football, the Hoosiers playing host to one of the
hottest teams in college football.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
UCLA.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
India is gonna win this football game or we're gonna
see UCLA get back down to reality. But twenty five
and a half points, with how well UCLA has looked
offensively over the last three weeks, Yeah, I'm gonna take
the Bruins with the points.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Texas any Kurt Signetti saying, woof all this work for
the last fifty plus years. I made it. I got
my money. This contract is unbelievable. I don't need to
do this anymore. I don't need to work this hard.
I don't need to I don't need to fire up
my team. Just kind of quote unquote pack it in
on the intensity. Yet not yet, okay, not yet. A

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couple more years.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Texassissippi State long Orders are gonna win this one. But guys,
last week Kentucky finished with over three hundred and forty
five yards. They outgained first down them twenty six to eight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
They meaningless hollow yards in between the twenty. Score some
points Kentucky, and maybe you'll win the game. Texas has
no offense.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
I'm taking the under under four six and a half
and I'm going psycho mode with this last pick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
First time in the history of stone cold locks, either
one of these teams has found their way onto the board.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Montana minus second.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
I mean you have an issue, they have a problem.
I can I ask a favor of you? Yes, please
do not analyze the game. We heard your pick. We
respect your pick. We've got your pick. It's logged. It's
on the graphic. Now ac if you wouldn't mind. It
doesn't want to hitting over for you, doesn't want to
hear about Montana. The Grizzlies hate. I hate Montana as
a bear cat.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
By the way, all right, I'm taking the under on
the Aggie's LSU game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
I don't really even know why I'm owing eight in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
College picks this year, So screw you college football Titans
at the Colts. There's no way, even with you know,
Jonathan Taylor and the Colts involved, even if they do
run the score up, and that just means they're gonna
be handing off and draining the clock as much as possible,
because I don't see any way, shape or form that
the freaking ten se Titans combined with the Colts can

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manage to put more than forty seven points.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Again, the average points scored by those two teams combined
in the games they've played against other teams thirty three
point one for the Colts, thirteen point seven for the Titans.
That is forty six point eight on the note, what's
the number? Forty seven and a half. I'm taking the under.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Okay, I think it's a pretty smart pick, just like
I think, and I think I'm gonna look very quickly
on the fly here. I've taken an inordinate amount of
Cowboys games this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Cowboys at Jets, Packers at Cowboys, Cowboys at Bears. Yeah
you have. And aren't they all blue? All but one
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Yes, I've done very well picking Cowboys games with the
over pick because they score a lot. And I think
they're gonna do that again this week, even at Mile
High Stadium, even against the Broncos. By the way, how
come nobody ever talks about the the altitude when it's
NFL games.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
No one talks about that. Only the NBA physical ailment
that has not playing the game.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
But NBA games, Oh, you're running up and down on
that floor, you're gonna get out of Brett.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Well, they're running in the NFL games, yeah, But in
the NBA games, you're playing both sides, so you're out constant.
In the NFL. He just take a sit on the bench,
grab some ox from H two oh, and head on
back out there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
All right over on that game in Mile High and
over on the Packers and Steelers game, I think Aaron
Rodgers is going to want to really light it up,
and I think he's going to, well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
We'll save our Texans pick for the other side. For
you radio listeners, those that are watching us on TV,
I think you have a pretty good idea of what
you're taking because the graphic has been up. I like
Cole will take Texas A and M to cover the number.
I think they would have won the game outright anyway.
So at minus two and a half, that's certainly not
a big enough favorite status for me to look elsewhere.
I know BYU is a different team on the road,

(01:32:48):
but I just think they're so much better than Ohio
Iowa State just playing out period. Really Yeah, I I
for some reason I thought i Wowa State would be good,
but then I watched them play their first game overseas
and I quickly realized they are or not and BYU
is not favored. So I will take BYU to cover
as two and a half point dogs match you on
the Cowboys Bronco over and I'm gonna take Baker Mayfield's

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team to beat the Falcons by more than four and
a half points, as you should. Yeah, they're obviously gonna
be without Mike Evans for a bit, no Godwin and
Bucky is not back yet, but Igbuka is good to go.
Sean White's perfectly capable, and tes is gonna find the
end zone again. Like I said morning nine, Ers and Texans,
Texans are favored. I'll tell you what we think is

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going to happen to that game, at least as it
relates to our stone cold locks when we return.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
All Right, we gotta get to the rest of our
stone cold locks because I.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Can't Wait's pretty simple. I think with the offense, it's
a discussion that was so offensive earlier. Yea, I don't
think there's much belief in the Texans putting a bunch
of points on the board and considering the Niners. Uh
may have played some good teams and good defenses, but
now they're playing the team that is the hardest to
put points on the board against in the entire league,
the Texans, who are also coming off. While it was
a loss, they did turn the Seahawks over four different times.

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Maybe that leads to more Texans points, but I think
the belief is that won't lead to a lot of
Niners points against the Texans defense. So we all took
the under at forty one and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
By the way, I wanted to ask you, guys, since
I'm zero for eight with college picks, nice honestly discriminated against?

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
I really do. Oh that's cool. Well, you guys know
I don't watch it. I just don't. So why why
you're not discriminated? But you can? No, But I have
to make that pick every week. But you're allowed to
watch it. You're telling, yeah, I know you watched one
game that you won that you went to. Yeah, I
did watch that one. Good. You're allowed for you to

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ask us questions.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
I don't want to ask you questions. If it were
up to me, I would pick nothing but pro games,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
That's not very clear. Every single one of your other picks,
other than the week when you have pro t Cole
he does nothing but pick college games.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
I'm going to do what I can to win it. Right,
Why I'm feeling enough?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Having said all that, we all basically have the same
record exactly, basically meaning I'm behind the two of you.
You have eighteen wins, we have nineteen. Good luck catching up.
I know, all right, but what do you think of
my pick on the Texans? No? On the college game.
I think LSU has shown an ability to hate the
end zone that that sounds right, Okay, I'm just that's

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what I thought. I just wanted to confirm the Aggies
aren't going to score enough. I think to get it
all by do you? But that's that's a lot of
points for a team that doesn't score very I don't
the Aggie's defense has allowed a lot of points. It
doesn't feel like they're bad, but that has happened in
too many of their games.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
Can I push back just a little bit with u
AC The last two times that they've been on the road,
they've allowed forty points.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
So that's why I should take the over. It's too
late now, how ls you's gonna score forty That's what
I'm saying. Where it's like this, it's more about the Tigers. Yeah,
how many points the last time LSU was at home?
How many points did they score? Like it's it's not
about how bad the other team's defenses. Like I said,
I don't think the Aggie's defense, even though the numbers,
especially last week, that were put up against them show you.

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I don't feel like, Okay, LSU can breathe, they can
they can get something done against this defense.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Is there any game this year where Brian Kelly would
lose his job after losing the game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
He's not losing. He's not losing his job in season
under any circumstance, but probably he's at least his seats warm.
They're also five and two, and if they win this
game at home where they're only two and a half
point underdogs to a top five team, well then all
of a sudden, there's six and two with an extremely
impressive win.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
But see, that's just that's that false sense of a
security that the Texans always used to have when they
were winning divisions with Bill O'Brien and it was crap competition.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Then you're getting into do they want to fire him
because they know they can't win super big or do
they just want to fire him because they're unsatisfied with
where they are? Or pray to God that he goes
to Penn State. I don't see that he's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Not going to Penn State. But the point is is
that that's what you're praying you would, Okay, like you're
praying for him to get out of the contract that
way you can make a higher and gonna do over. Basically,
I will say, if he loses this one and then
loses to Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
All bets are off. The Aggies aren't losing this game, don't.
I mean they can. I don't think LSU is totally
worthless and incapable they're going to lose either. That's more
about how good the Aggies are. I think the Aggies
are legit. I mean, we've seen it so far this year,
as the teams rise up because Texas and Penn State
and a few others have fallen so far back. We

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keep getting these new teams up near at the top five,
and then they keep falling right back out of it
because they haven't been able to win in the games
that have followed. Indiana's there now. I don't see them losing,
But the Aggi's like maybe Ole Miss, like maybe a
few others that have Miami similarly, I think they're actually
better than all all those teams. Their schedule is incredibly difficult,

(01:38:04):
so an undefeated regular season doesn't seem likely only for
that reason. But it's no different than just trying to
do how NFL coaches do. But I just focused on
the Aggies each individual week. Can they win this game
this week? Every week, when we get to analyzing who
their opponent is, you'll be able to make it. Yeah,
they're gonna win this game. There'll be eight and oh,

(01:38:25):
there'll be nine and oh they'll beak ten and zer
and maybe you'll think, well, they're not gonna win. Well,
just focus on what is the task at hand, and
maybe it won't seem so daunting. And they've also had
a bunch of other starts where they've had really really
nice starts, and the schedule softer on the front than
it was on the back, and all of a sudden,
the six and ozh start was an eight and four,
I believe, is how it goes an eight and four seconds.
That sounded very do your job right now, lot of curiosity?

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
Can either of you tell me without looking up at
the Wexler research team, when was the last time that
Texas A and M one in Baton Rouge. I don't
even know how often they have played there recently?

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Twenty twelve, Nope, nineteen ninety four, So, oh my gosh,
between nineteen ninety four and Saturday, how many times have
they played at that and room fourteen fourteen times over
thirty years? Over thirty two years.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
I thought for sure at some point during the Manziel
era they would have played there and he would have won.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
I they just realized that they had been together so
long and obviously seeing them every other year in that venue.
So Manziel did play there and they lost. They lost?
How what was the score? Was it bad?

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
I mean, I'm not saying he won all the games
when he was a quarterback there, but that that was like, honestly,
that was the closest I think that the Aggies have
ever gotten to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Like Vincente last.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Time that they went, they had a ten win season
in SEC play.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Oh boy, look, what's happening? Are you answering that person?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Yeah? Outside of the Notre Dame miracle, what's A and
M's most impressive win? Signed by locked on and so
I responded with, so you watch them and think they
aren't good like enough already with the what have they
give me their most impressive win? That's for the dump
committee members at the end of the year, when we
analyze who they have beaten and who they haven't beaten

(01:40:04):
and is this an impressive win or is that impressive win?
It's okay, it's absolutely okay. I can't believe I'm still
saying this. To watch them play football and analyze what
kind of team you think they are. It's okay to
actually watch them play and think this is a really
good football team, which is all I'm trying to say.
I'm not impressed by their record. I'm not impressed by

(01:40:25):
the fallen enemies that they've had along the way. I'm
just telling you, when I watch them play, I think
they're very good. And I look at the rest of
the country and think there's probably not very many, if
any matchups where the Baggs would be on the field
and the other teams on the other side, and I
can't I'm gonna say, well, the Aaggis aren't good enough
to beat them.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
They've beaten four of the worst teams in the SEC,
mostly by just one side.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I didn't ask you to talk about Texas. That's what
I would respond with.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
By the way, it was thirty four to ten in
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Again, it's not the point. I made my point, and
I just made it on the air. You recognize who
they've had. I just said the front side much softer
than the backside. You know that their schedule, You.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Know that if you talk too long on this station
about LSU, his spidy sentences are going to go off now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
I love that Gordy is listening. I love that he
is so lot time. He was in attendance at one
of the Marquee SEC games last week with the worst
team in the conference playing the Longhorns, so he's got
some intel on what both of those teams look like.

Speaker 9 (01:41:25):
I tell you, why is it called death Valley. I
wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a live valley.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
It's gonna be for Brian Kelly. The shoe might fit
at the end of the season. I want to go
to a game there. I've never been, Gordon, I want
to go. It's one of the best experiences in college football.
All right. The Aggies are Alabama currently appear that they're
the only answers to who's the best team in the SEC?

(01:41:52):
I think Georgia can be argued, so maybe there should
be three. But if that's okay to say, and I
think Gordy would agree, Cole agreed, like, how bad can
they be? They're in the conversation for answering the question
who's the best team in the SEC? It's Alabama? Why
do we think they're so bad?

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Why do we knock who they've beaten? You know, are
they good or are they're not good. We'll find out
record wise when they play everybody else. But what I
have seen, they look like a good football team. I'm sorry.
I think the Aggies are good at football? Is that
so wrong? Be careful driving to Toyota

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
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