Texans Disappoint In Green Bay, Rockets Core Locked Up and Stan Norfleet In-Studio

Adam Wexler and Adam Clanton talk about what's going on in Houston sports and more on October 21st 2024.

Hour 1: 

• Texans Brutal Loss
• CJ Takes The Blame. 
• Changes To The Texans? 
• Deshaun Watson In Cleveland Hasn't Gone As Planned. 

Hour 2: 

• Good, Bad and The Ugly- Texans Edition.

Hour 3: 

• Stan Norfleet In-Studio For 2 Segments.
• ICYMI- Dan Campbell On Being Classless and Quinn Ewers Future Hacked. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking your Teams.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A team?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up, Houston, Texas?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Another week of the A Team kicking off right about now.
Wex and ac with you as we take you up
until six o'clock tonight. In a week that is going
to uh well, there's gonna be a lot of things
going on. There's gonna be the Texans licking their wounds
all day long. I think I'll give them. I'll give
them a day and a half and then they'll move

(00:40):
on full throat to the cults and just basically putting
the disgust of yesterday's tasting.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Their mouths out of the way.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We will have the season opener for the Rockets, and
they have a freshly extended member of their roster we
will discuss. I'm guessing Deshaun Watson comes up on the
show at least once or twice today since his season
is over. I don't know if his career is over
like some people were trying to say, but it's not
going very well right now on or off the field
for him, and a number of other things to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
But obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
First things first is the Texans go up to Green
Bay yesterday and about his disappointing and ending to a
game of you as you've seen in quite some time
involving CJ. Shroud at least, I feel like they've had
some close losses, but I can't remember one like they
either got walloped or they win games and either close
or blowout fashion since he arrived. But this is probably

(01:33):
the first real gut punch loss, I would say, because
with the Ravens playoff game last year, even though you
should have led at halftime, and you it looked a
lot better on paper in the first half, you just
got outclassed in the second half. Yesterday was the latest
example of something I was screaming all summer long. The

(01:56):
Texans don't have a good offensive line. And you can
say it's good this and it's good at that. I
think that's further proof of that if you're having to
say that they pass block well or they run block well,
or vice versa, but you're not saying they're just a
good offensive line. They're not a good offensive line. And
I think that's the number one reason why they lost
that game yesterday, because it's a bigger symptom of everything

(02:19):
else that was going wrong that you were trying to
get done or you couldn't get done. Joe Mixon was good,
knew that was going to be the case, but you
just didn't have enough protection for CJ. Stroud on a
day where you absolutely needed it to do what you
wanted to do, particularly on that final drive.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
If you were to believe what Damiko Ryans had.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
To say, what do you say that they were not
playing for a field goal on that final drive.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, he reiterated that today. The purpose of the pass
was to complete it. That's what he said multiple times today.
Had it been completed, then they would have been in
closer field goal range with the Packers still holding their
time out because you threw it to a player who
would have been out of bounds even if he had
caught it for completion, which was the purpose of the play,

(03:04):
to complete the pass. If you recall the Texans on
the road against the NFC, this is how both of
their games ended last year. The close losses with CJ.
Strida quarterback mean they're on the road at the NFC
field goal. Last play the game l happened. Now three
times Carolina did it to him. Atlanta did it to him,
and now the Green Bay Packers have done it to them.

(03:25):
By the way, when the Texans go on the road
to play the NFC, they don't win as ten straight
losses on the road at the NFC. We're five years
into not winning a road game against an NFC team.
They have one more remaining. Don't need to get into
that today, but we usually do anyway, But that's.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Down the road.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, there's not really this problem led to that problem,
and if they had done this, their offensive line was
not very good yesterday. They clearly don't have an offensive
line that is very good. I don't think anybody's debating
that doesn't seem like a point of contention. Didn't really
seem like one during the offseason either. They attempted to
make it better in absolutely no way, which was clearly
an issue. And again I'm not sure that people thought otherwise.

(04:08):
I don't think anybody in this room thought otherwise, you
can win with their offensive line. They've shown that. They've
won five of their seven games. Less everybody forgets they've
just finished or three out of the four games against
the best division in football have now been played. The
NFC North is nothing but four and two teams are better,
and you've played three of them, you've beaten one of
them and that was here. You've lost to two of them,

(04:28):
and those obviously were there. One game remaining here in
Houston against the Lions, who were awesome again yesterday, so
that'll be a huge challenge. Texans could have easily won
the game without playing good football and one facet And
that's why I usually will give coaches the benefit of
the doubt when they say there's all three phases is
what it takes. The Texans won in two of the

(04:51):
three phases and they were dramatically drubbed in the other.
And that's why they did not win, you know, B
plus three in the turnover game and lose not EA.
It's been ten years since the Texans have done that.
They did it yesterday to dominate a Packers team the
way they did defensively. Yeah, they gave up points, they
gave up some yards, they didn't stop them at the end.

(05:12):
And maybe you hesitate on the word dominate. That offense
is awesome. It's definitely one of the top five offenses
in the NFL. And they did all they needed to
do to win Honestly, you're asking them to do more
than that when you play out the final series offensively
like you did. And I don't know if I would
say they're special teams dominated, but they share took advantage
of a bonehead play by their special teams took advantage

(05:35):
of it.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
One of the three turnovers immediately turned.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Into a touchdown, which the Texans had seen done to
them twice before this year. Obviously, their kicking game is fine,
and unfortunately the Packers may have fixed their kicking game
by getting rid of their terrible kicker and employing one
that makes kicks. Both teams punters did the job. Their
punter was a little bit better. Your offense got smoked.
That has also happened before. A humongous conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Why are you waiting on it?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Texans head coach Demiko Rans is extremely good friends with
recently fired Robert Sala, head coach of the New York Jets.
They worked together cultivated a defense together in San Francisco.
He pondered the fact, would he reach out to Robert
Sala at some point, maybe get some tips on the
game against the Jets coming up on October thirty first?

(06:29):
He might he might already have done that. He might
do it again in the future. I don't know that
they need it. It's a two to five Jets team.
But the conspiracy theory is he's not as good a
friends with Robert Sala as Matt Lafleur is. Matt Lafleur said, Hey, Robert,
would you mind being the best man at my wedding,
which Robert sala said yes to several years ago when

(06:50):
he got married. And if you watched yesterday's game it
didn't have this thought from last year, then you weren't
watching the Texans last year. Other than the fact it
was gorgeous and an awesome day for football. That was
a carbon copy of the Texans offense versus the Robert
Sala led Jets defense from last year. No time to throw,

(07:11):
ten completions, fifty yards of net passing, total disaster ball
on offense. Bobby Sloak was clueless on how to stop it.
The offensive line was clueless on where the rushers were
coming from. It was the same game. They just had
a little bit more of an opportunity to win this
one because the defense and the special teams won their part.
So hopefully at some point in the next couple of months,

(07:32):
Robert Sawa, maybe TMZ will catch up to him again
and ask him, Hey, did you tell Matt Lafleur to
do this with his defense or Jeff Hatley is DC
to do this? Because I am definitely putting something kind
of nonsensical out there, But I had that thought pretty
much from right after the Texans first offensive possession, when
they let their first best opportunity slide through their fingertips

(07:56):
was called today correctly by Demico Ryans. They dropped the
touchdown pass tak Dell should have scored the opening touchdown
of the game after the Peatriet forced Neville Cwitt interception.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
The thing about that whole series where Tank Dell had
I think it was multiple shots at a touchdown just
in the back of the end zone on one of
those miscatches.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I don't know. I don't know that I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
A less consequential cornerback talk more in a game than
I did yesterday with number twenty three for the Packers.
I know Alexander's gotten into it with Justin Jefferson. I
know that Jefferson. Actually there was a whole article written
about the head games. It kind of reminded me of
Courtland Finnigan a little bit, although I'd say Courtland Finnegan

(08:46):
was at least more of a consequential corner in this
league and that he would get say the opposite, No,
he would get multiple people to Diyer's one of the
best corners in the league, and Finnegan never was.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Really Yeah, okay, if you say so, Well, they didn't
have to do anything yesterday.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Who Galai?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, the Texas tranity routes down the field, that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And from that in that regard, yeah, he he didn't.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
He didn't have much to do because CJ had zero
time to pass or what's whatever's left less than that.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm not gonna argue that, oh Man, Alexander deserves
to talk. Looking how he played yesterday, I'm totally in
agreement that there's nothing for him to do. He covered
his guy and the ball was dead anyway.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's what I'm getting at. He'd come in on the
end of a play to a play that he had
nothing to do with the other. You know, it was
not covering Dell on either of those failed attempts, and
he's just jawing at him and I don't know if
this had to do with with Stefan Diggs before the game,
I'm sure it could has to do.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
With who he is, and I actually think the Texans
did a good job because he was leading the charge
and Nixon was following him and other Packers were following him.
There was one personal foul called in the game because
of things like this, and it wasn't on the Texans.
They were baiting them. They were begging them to let
the Packers get into their head. And based on what

(09:58):
Stefan Diggs said after the game, which was one of
the all time greatest quotes ever, which we'll share with you,
I don't really think it worked. They just won the game.
They just outplayed the Texans. Their defense out played the
Texans offense, and the Packers won the game. It wasn't
a matter of did they get the Texans out of
their game. You know, he was woofing at c. J.
Stroud after the player on the sideline delivered a shoulder
to him, which nobody seemed to see or care about,

(10:20):
which was unfortunate. But yeah, his involvement in the actual
successful game plan because he's good. They could do certain
things up front. They leave these guys on an island.
He had a fine game. He's not He's gonna be
graded well, but the grades are going to be on
the two targets, the three targets that were there. He's
a good player and he I think and his teammates
thought we can help our own's defensive game plan by

(10:43):
getting into their heads. I didn't think they were in
the Texans says, they just didn't.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
They just played them on that play you mentioned too,
on the sideline where he delivered one of two blows
that C. J. Stroud got. Did the offensive line not
see it? Did the offensive line not care? How does
it to Twitter exist?

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Well?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's the only reason anybody's saying anything about it.
In my opinion, I think it's a total nonsense and
a complete non story.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, Now the other side of that argument, where if
I see my quarterback get hit like that and nobody,
nobody comes over there, and I'm gonna be over there,
I'm gonna be in whoever's face I need to be
in because if you hit, and you could debate whether
or not, I don't think it was a late hit.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
It was borderline though the late hit. There was no
late hit, but you're not supposed to. You're either supposed
to get out of the way or catch them or
stand them up. You're not supposed to deliver a hit
when you're a player on the sideline. That was what
was wrong. That's that's not supposed to happen.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
But nobody came over there. He's fine.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Like that's trying to create a story that will open
the next segment with we'll also hear from Stefon Diggs
that is creating a They don't like CJ. They don't
have his back. This offense is disjointed, their chemistry stinks
or like I think they're five and two.

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Speaker 3 (13:09):
All right, Just for the record, I don't think that
the Texans offensive line dislikes CJ.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Shroud.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I didn't stay that last segment, so I just want
to put that out there. But if people are saying
that on social media, that's actually hilarious. I do think though,
that if you were going to protect him so poorly
and then there's an incident near the sideline where he's
getting hit up. You see this all the time. If
Pat Mahomes same situation happened, I guarantee you there'd be

(13:38):
five guys over there causing havoc on the packers' sideline
or any other guy, like maybe they didn't see it,
and I don't think it's like this story.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I try to get place one play where he got
hit by the lineman or the big fat Gilbert Brown
guy on the sidelines, giving Tony Romo credit for that
great line, not a great line. And the other one
was when he stayed in bounds to try to gain
extra yardage. Alexander shouldered him to the ground and as
he was going to the ground, he took a big shot,

(14:07):
also clean, and went down. He got up motioned in
the usual safe, un gun influenced We just got a
first down, and he and Alexander were each other's face
and they were jawing at each other, which to me
also kind of indicates I don't need you, guys. I'm
standing up and yelling at him that we got a

(14:29):
first down. I don't what are they gonna do? And
tech Dell's standing right there, and then they go back
to the huddle. The other play maybe is a little
bit different just because you've got a teammate on their sideline,
but it also didn't escalating anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah no, And I mean, honestly, like I said, I
don't know if it was started by the Digs situation
before the game. I don't even know what started that situation.
I do know that we have audio from Digs about
that situation, and it kind of I mean, it's not
he hasn't had some experience and or six says in
that venue. I mean, obviously he was a division rival

(15:03):
before he was ever a Buffalo Bill, and he was
a member of the Vikings. But I don't know if
that's what set the tone for this or if that's
I don't know, Like Alexander was jawing all day long.
And again, you can talk all you want, especially at
the end when you have scoreboard, but I guess I
had the biggest problem with him when he'd come over

(15:24):
after he wasn't involved in the play at all and
get right in the face of tanked out.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's like, what are you why?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, And I wouldn't necessarily say I had a problem
with it. I think it's silly. And that's why Lad
The Texans felt the same way. Once the game started.
They didn't care, didn't seem to affect them in any way.
I mean, they talked back when they felt it was necessary.
Nothing ever came of it, and you move on and
they won't see this team very often, so I'm not
real concerned about any lingering effects. You know, Texans aren't

(15:50):
gonna win every game. The Texans aren't the best team
in the NFL. They're gonna get beat, they're gonna get
out physical, they're gonna get out scheme, they're gonna get
out worked. A lot of those things happened yesterday. Then
they come back to the next week. They don't seem
to have let it affect them negatively whatever took place
in the game in any way.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, I think the biggest problem I have looking at
yesterday's game is not about the final drive. It's not
about you know, supposed conservatism on offense, which is just
stupid to say when you consider what I'm about to
get to, which is the real issue. It's the fact
that how many defensive starters were the Texans down going
into a game like that, and they absolutely did their

(16:25):
job whoever they were at any given time, because as
sure as hell, wasn't a bunch of starters out there
in some positions, especially the linebacking corps.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And yet they did their job.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
And as you'll hear cjsay, as you'll hear offensive linemen say,
as you'll hear Demko say, the offensive line specifically, and
then a bigger problem the offense in general just didn't
get the job done on a day like as you
put it in the first segment, very well, they absolutely
could have and probably should have won that football game.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, they were definitely in a position to do so.
But let's get to the Digs portion of it. Since
that started the day. Since that's since not only the
people covering the game and the fans obviously saw it
take place before the game, CBS had captured it, so
it was part of their prelude to coverage of the game,
and Stefan Diggs afterwards like, I don't know what people
are gonna say about it. Sometimes they'll know comment it,

(17:15):
sometimes they'll talk about their history. Sometimes they'll say we
dapped it up after the game. That's all between the
line stuff and we move on. This is what Stefan
Diggs had to say about it.

Speaker 7 (17:24):
I was looking to the loan in the game somebody.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
I'm never the bigger person.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Myself a minute, never a bigger person, you know obviously,
but I ain't with the football and tough because here's.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
What it is.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Basically, it called him a football tough guy, and the
line I referred to of the awesomeness for Stefan, I
think you should like him more when he says, I'm
I'm never the bigger man. I'm not gonna let somebody
just He didn't punch, he didn't, you know, challenge him physically.
He just was yapping enough, and he thinks from a

(18:05):
fake football tough guy standpoint, he's just I'm not gonna
let a guy do that.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think a lot of players would because it's so
insignificant to the result of the game, and you're trying
not to let it get in your head. But if
you notice from the video this, you know, he's in
his face, and then Nixon's in his face, and then
Diggs is trying to toss away the Texan staffer. I guess,
since the other conversation has already been had by us,
how come we're not saying why where were all of

(18:31):
Diggs's teammates. This is in front of the Packers sideline
full of players before the game. There's probably thirty Packers there.
There were exactly zero other Texans anywhere near him, only
a couple of staffers who helped walk him away and
help keep the Packers away from Matt Lafleur was right there,
at least close enough to say he was in the
middle of it. He didn't have anything to say, and

(18:53):
he certainly did not throw any punches, and nor did
anybody but Diggs was smiling at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
He was headed by to either where he.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Wanted to finish preparing for the game outside or headed
back to the locker room before they were going to
be preparing for the game. He had a smile on
his face, as in, this doesn't affect me at all,
and again it wasn't that that affected him. He had
twenty seven yards receiving, he had five catches. He had
one of the least productive games of his entire career,
and I do credit some of their secondary for that,

(19:22):
but mainly it was Texans did not cooperate with their
own play calling decisions to what they were unable to
do upfront. Either they don't have the personnel for it
and their coaching staff is too hard headed to realize that,
or the Packers just were so good at disguising everything
and getting free rushers left and right and middle and

(19:43):
everywhere they wanted it that they got out coached that badly.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, And c J.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Stroud, speaking of which, had thoughts on, you know the
fact that the pass rush was a problem.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There is no other way around it.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
And you can blame the offensive line, you can blame him,
you can blame the offense in general. But when your
quarterback doesn't have time to even breathe, it's going to
be a hard afternoon running or moving the football through
the air. Fortunately they did have Joe Mixon, but this
was CJ. Stroud on the Packers doing that good job
rushing him.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
They rush is one.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
You know, they have a lot of twist game up front,
so the more you know they twisting in turn, you know,
we just gotta you know, set with a little death
and you know, just trying to level it off.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
But all thought, they did a good job.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
Which is you know, uh sooner in their stunts and
we just got to be better in protection and I
got to be better get the ball out on time.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
It's it's a multitude things, I know.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
And it's not to say that the Texans upfront didn't
do a good job against Jordan Love, because they did.
And Will Anderson Junior had another good afternoon but.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Is it accurate.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I guess safe to say the Texans' secondary probably did
a better job versus the Packers, you know, front four especially,
but just their their upfront rush. If you're looking at
how the two defense is, yesterday were successful. Obviously they
were successful around. I think both were because you know,

(21:05):
the Texans holding them to what they did. They absolutely
put the offense in a position to be able to
win the game should they were they able to move
the football through the air, but they couldn't do that.
I just I think that when I look at yesterday's game,
that's what I think about. I think up front they
got to CJ. And then the Texans' secondary probably did

(21:26):
at least a decent job keeping it from being more
explosive by way of Jordan Love throwing the football.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
The Texans secondary had a really good di except for
one guy, and the Packers knew it, and that's why
they lost.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Aaron Murray. No, not Eric Murray. Eric Murray played like
he always does.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
No. D'Angelo Ross got absolutely smoked the entire afternoon. And
I'm not sure why people didn't understand this was going
to happen. If the Texans couldn't do more damage up front.
But last week, D'Angelo Ross played every single step and
it was no problem at all because you played Drake
May and the freaking Patriots. They stink, even with him
now throwing the ball better than Persett. Being better than

(22:02):
Pssett doesn't mean you're good, and they don't have any
weapons of real consequence. This team is loaded. Every single
guy out there. It's pretty easy to see. I mean,
Romeo Dobbs has been pretty good over most of his career,
and he was all right so far this year. He
dominated yesterday, he got targeted more than he's ever been
targeted all season.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
He had eight catches yesterday.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
The thirty yard touchdown pass was an absolute easy, easy
play to see coming.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And that wasn't even him, that was Wicks. They just
knew where the weak link was.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
And of all the injuries the Texans had, and I
mentioned this during the week, I know I mentioned it
on Friday or on Monday when the stand was here.
And we'll see if we'll revisit that again today. I'm
not saying the players that were out aren't good and
aren't helpful and aren't better than their reserves. Losing al
share and Toatoa could have been extremely costly, and they're

(22:47):
definitely better than Nevill Hewitt and Jake Hanson. Neither of
those players were a problem in any way at all.
And I don't not dismissing that Josh Jacobs ended up
having a pretty good day average better than six yards
of pop. And yeah, there's a run here or run
there one other there's fifty some odd plays that maybe
Shaier Toatoa does something a little bit better, a little differently,

(23:09):
but the what you're getting from them, Hewett can play.
I'm just I'm not trying to get him more playing
time because he's a reserve and he's an awesome special teamer.
I just didn't think they were gonna lose anything with him.
I figured they'd be able to get it done up front,
because whatever you lost versus whatever you're getting, you're all
healthy upfront literally now. And problem is you have a
guy who's suspended who can't play, but the rest of

(23:29):
the D line was out there. You had more defensive
linemen available to you than you ever have with Hiinish
and Autry returning, so that takes care of that. Kaitlyn
Bullock being on the field is awesome. So whatever safety's missing,
that's fine. Jimmy Ward missing Kamari Lasser is humongous. And
that's why the Packers offense was as successful as they

(23:50):
were yesterday. As CJ would say, that's why they were
that successful, point blank period.

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Monday edition. After the Texans go up to Green Bay
lose a heartbreaker to the Packers on a last second
field goal that the pack was able to get into
position for in large part because well they had the

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time to and the Texans only were able to come
up with three points on their final drive of the
game as opposed to a touchdown. I think, and this
is my question, I understand why people are upset about
how the final drive unfolded. About the third down play

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in particular, which as you mentioned, wex even if they
catch that ball out of bounds and so it defeats
the purpose of letting the clock run, making orientate first
down or get well, the route itself was the culprit there.
But say you complete it anywhere on the field, anywhere
but where he would have completed it near the sideline,
would keep that clock churning.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
And forced them burn their last day, which you.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Know, that's how much time did they end up having
once they got the football.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
A little over a minute, a lot over a minute,
minute forty four. I thought for some reason I had
one fourteen in my head.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Nope, on the clock after Fairbarn's field goal was good.
Thus one forty four on the clock after the touchback.
And oh, by the way, there's some new rules. They've
been using him for each week of this NFL season,
and yesterday was no different. You're trying to hold them
to basically no points. Whatever points they get are going
to beat you. Well, they start the drive five yards closer,

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ten yards close. You're giving them the ball on the
thirty How many yards do you think they need? How
easily do you think you're going to shut down this
offense of one final drive? They only got thirty nine yards,
no problem, easy, forty five yard field goal. You're only
going for three when you know they only have to
get thirty yards thirty five yards to beat you. I

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don't like that, and they had one more time out.
Even if you had stayed in bounds, so you were,
you didn't convert. My point, you need to convert there. Well,
then don't call the plays you did on first and
second down. If you're going for we want to force
them to score a touchdown. The field goals made the
odds of you throwing the ball three times, which again,

(26:44):
I get it. They threw the ball so unsuccessfully. I'm
not gonna sit here and say, my god, throw three passes.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Duh.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
No, I was watching the game. I recognize that that's
not necessarily the way to go. I'm not real excited
about the formations they used and the where are all
the packers?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Why don't we just run there? Back to back plays?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
And I know some people who have pointed out the
second and twelve play that was the second snap. The
first snap lost yards. This snap also lost yards in
the run game. Some people think that that play call
was clearly not we're just trying to make them use
their timeouts. But it had it been blocked just slightly better,
there was a huge gain for mixing and quite honestly,
throughout the day deck definitely appeared. There were a lot

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of plays that did not look tremendously well blocked, but
one key block and he saw it, Okay, I can
sneak through here and then boom, I'm gonna turn this
three yard gain into twelve. And he did that a
couple of times. That's how you balance out all these
negative runs. They had eleven tackles for loss yesterday, not
just getting after CJ, who also had to scramble five

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times for nineteen yards. They dropped back thirty times. They
completed ten passes at fifty five net yards passing. But
those two plays they appeared to be more designed and
to make them use all their timeouts. If we're still
gonna have to kick a field goal because we didn't
gain ten yards on three straight runs, they'll have no timeouts.

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They'll need to get into field goal range without any timeouts.
But you also have to recognize it's not easy. I'm
not saying they were wrong or right. If they go
after it and don't get it, that they probably kicked
the field goal from wherever, and maybe Green Bay has
two or three timeouts. There was so much time on
the clock. There's two minutes left you're at the twelve
yard line, You're gonna burn two minutes off the clock

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unless you get a first down. If you got a
first down, you win the game because then you get
to bleed the entire clock out and kick the field goal.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You get to kick the game winner.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
To me, whether this is accurate or not, this isn't consequential.
It looked like for one of the first, if not
the few times since CJ has been the guy under center,
it looked like they didn't think they could convert. They
were scared to pass. That's I'll just I mean, strip
everything away. That's what it looked like.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
And of all situations, they had such a bad day
and I just told you they had ten completions on
the game. Well, they got the ball with eight eleven
to go, as more than half of the final quarter,
and you're down by one score, one field goal, you're
barely down.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Anything any score is going to win you the game.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
It's twenty one to nineteen, and with the Packers in front,
the Packers weren't doing anything offensively miraculously pretty much the
whole game. If they had the lead, well, when the
Texans were forcing them to punt and their punter was great,
but eight eleven left to go in the game. And
what did CJ do on this particular drive. Converted on
third down with a pass to Diggs, and then he

(29:33):
converted to Diggs on second eleven to give him third
and ten. But then he threw the ball to Xavier
Hutchinson to play right before the whole scenario we've been
talking about happens. Brilliantly done CJ Vintage. Xavier Hutchinson goes down,
gets the ball. They needed a ten, he gets them eleven.
It's first and goal on the it's first and ten

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on the twelve. And CJ's numbers on this drive are
three for three. He was ten for two one on
the day and three for three on this drive.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Something was working on that last drive, That's all it was.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
So, if I'm going to type in the X platform,
pulled back the reins, that's what I think they did.
I don't think they quit and ram the ball and
knew they weren't going to get it. Joe Mixon and
what they'd done on the day suggests they may have
believed we can do it, but you can't do both.
Then just run it on third down again, or run
something else that clearly is going to be complete in

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the field of play, that even if you don't get
the first down or score the touchdown, you do force them.
I would think they would call their time out there.
It's possible with one forty on the clock and fourth
in three, five six, who knows, it's possible. The Packers
wouldn't have called their time out and kept it for
their offense, which they ultimately were able to do because
you threw a pass out of bounds, but you didn't

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give them You didn't force them to make that decision.
You called a play with that had Digs or Dell
running towards the sideline. He comes back and you throw
on the ball and he can't doesn't catch it. I
don't think it was a dry But even if he
does catch it, he's going to be out of bounds.
They're going to stop the clock when he goes out
of bounds as he's pushed out of bounds. I mean,
maybe you get lucky and the refs think always forward

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progress was stopped in the field of play, we're gonna
wind that clock, which is also fourth down.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Anyway, I think what I hate about this loss more
than anything is that anybody who's saying, Wow, the Texans
aren't really that good.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
They don't beat good teams.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And the thing about the Packers, you could argue they're
the worst team in their division right now because record
wise they were coming in that's just a really good division.
It's the best division football. They were tied for third worst,
tie for four and two. Well, it's not like the
Titans where there's it's clear who's bringing up the doing.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
The Packers are the worst team in a division of
four and two, five and two and five and one
teams in.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Which their starter has missed two games. Yeah, they won
both of those games.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
That's that's a pretty tall ask to believe that they're
the worst team in their division. But what I would
say is that Texas played seven games. They've beaten the crap.
They're three to zero and they're two and two in
their other game. The other games are against playoff bound Buffalo,
playoff bound Minnesota, playoff bound Green Bay, and probably playoff
bound Chicago if the playoffs started today. The division that

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they face in the NFC, they're all in Chicago, green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota,
all currently inside the seven team NFC playoff picture, and
I wish that will I hope that happens, and then
I hope the team the three wild card teams all win.
So it's nothing but the North in the final four,
and it could absolutely happen.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
And they would all beat up on any show.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
The point is the Texans have won two of those games.
They already have two wins over good teams. You can
pretend that the Caleb Williams lead Bears aren't good, but
they are. And you clearly can't pretend the five and
two Bills with Amari Cooper aren't good them. Yeah, but
they made Josh Allen like crap. Yeah, because you're good.

(32:55):
I must remind again the Texans are good. Don't forget
about it.

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Speaker 2 (33:07):
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Speaker 2 (33:24):
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Speaker 3 (33:31):
Colts at Vikings has been flexed to Sunday Night Football
in week nine in case you were making their viewing
appointments for several weeks from now.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
How come they didn't flex the Texans they're better because
as they play on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Colts this week are the Texans opponents, and then of
course Halloween they've got The Jets are Jets are something.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I really don't know what to make of them.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Well, the Jets haven't been and I kind of mocked
him earlier, so I knew there'd be time for me
to explain they haven't really been that as bad as
two and five. The Jaguars are two and five, the
Jets are two and five. Those teams are not the same.
The Jaguars stink and they beat the Patriots, who are worse.
The Jets continue to play competitive football. They're probably hurting themselves,

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maybe more than the other teams are being asked to
go out and beat them. And I know the spread
last night started to look worse and worse for them.
They were making plays that cost them games. And maybe
you don't look at it this way, but the play
that Aaron Rodgers made at the end near the end
of the first half costs in the game. Even with
that much football left, they were kind of burying the

(34:38):
Steelers and the interception threw turned into a Steelers touchdown
and they never scored again, and the Steelers just kept scoring.
I don't think the Texans have a cakewalk when they
get to Halloween. I don't think the Jets are out
of it. But I do think believing that Aaron Rodgers
can do what he used to do or is the
same as he used to be is silly. Some of

(34:59):
his numbers are actually pretty good some of how he
is connecting with his I mean, I'm watching him play,
I'm not only relying on the number. He does throw
the ball pretty well, much better than most are viewing.
Like last night's matchup. He throws the ball much better
than Russell Wilson does at their respective elderly stages of
their career.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
And yet Ross did his best to make me look
stupid last night by having a decent well passing games.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
He's probably as we got to week seven, where maybe
the from a the teams that matter they are unfortunately
aren't creating the much buzz as much buzz and storyline.
I mean, the Packers played the Texans, the Vikings played
the Lions, but the two biggest talking points were how
can you bench justin fields? And the Jets have DeVante
Adams so they are rated a roll and the viewpoints

(35:44):
on both of those could not have been more inaccurate.
The Jets looked very similar on offense. Adams has been
there for five minutes, expecting them to all of a
sudden be different.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well Mark Cooper scored a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
He didn't even know what play he was running, which
has been videos. I'd been so many, so many. I
would have him on the bench too, which was awesome
for me. He sinks. I mean, hopefully you got better
players than He's going to go out there and try
to catch a ball from a guy he's never been
on the field with hardly, but the Steelers angle like
the Steelers, they're trying to win more than just I
bet we can make the playoffs. I bet we can

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keep Mike Tomlin's streak of you know, better than five
hundred seasons alive. Do they know they can win with
Justin Fields when it matters, Absolutely not, even though they'd
won four of their six games. Do they know that
they can win with Russell Wilson when it matters, Absolutely not.
He hadn't even been on the field yet. Were they
trying to find out? Yes, and they're gonna need more

(36:39):
games to really find out. But you're also five and two,
you're also why did you win all those games with
Justin Fields?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Two reasons?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
He didn't turn the ball over a lot. And your
team is good. You got good offensive players, you got
good defensive players. You're good in the trenches. You can
run the football. You can win with almost any realistic quarterback.
Not every quarterback that's out there, but most of them.

(37:06):
Kenny freaking Pickett, Mason freaking Rudolph. You already made the
playoffs with those guys. You've got two better guys, they're
just not elite. So I think Mike Tomlin, as usual,
is smarter than everybody else. Knows what he's doing. His
team loves him. They always have his back. They always
go out there and play hard, and they definitely took
advantage of the mistakes that the Jets made. And now

(37:27):
they have the same record as Houston. Yeah, they've had
seven games started by Justin Fields and Russell Wilson and
they have the same record as the team that started
every game with c. J.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Strout.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And I love Damiko Ryans, but you understand why I
have a Mike crush on Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
He's just I mean, it may sound harsh, but you
have a crush on Mike Tomlin because he's better.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Uh, well, he's been there longer for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
How many people do you think you'd have to ask
to get twenty percent to say that Demiko is better
than Mike Tomas and none of them can have a
last name of Ryan's.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
It wouldn't take long. It wouldn't take long.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
But that's shot Like, no, well, he's been on the
job five minutes.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I mean there's way worse.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
There are way worse scenarios that could have unfolded even
with everything staying the same if you switch out, excuse me,
Jamika Ryans and put someone else in there. I have
no problem with Jamiko Ryans being the head coach, even
with what happened yesterday, even what happened on the final drive.
I do think, and it might be at the expense
of you know, him going elsewhere, but I think that's

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this offensive line if it doesn't continue to fare better.
As far as playing against elite pass rushes and not
giving CJ time, Well, they're not going to worry about
Bobby Slowek going elsewhere this offseason because he won't.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
He won't be in demand.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, this is an interesting way to kind of answer
things that I want to Miko to answer it the
way he did, I think it's worthwhile rather than to
tell you what he said, but to hear what he said,
because this is not a new problem, and some of
it was obviously on display last year. And this is
not just Bobby Slowick's offense or Bobby Slowak's play calling.

(39:06):
It all goes hand in hand with you know, coach
Barrett coaching up the running backs and the line coach
and the tight ends coach, and the offense in general,
even the wide receivers, everybody. It's everybody on the same
page from a coaching standpoint, so they can then make
sure everybody at the players standpoint is similarly. It's pretty
obvious they are. You know, somebody's reading chapter one and

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everybody else hasn't even picked up the book yet, they're
absolutely not on the same page if you want to
continue with that line. But a question about what changes
could be made personnel wise, coaching wise, anything like that,
that's something that Dumiko Ryans.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Was asked about today. What do we need to do?
What can be done?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
And he said something that the one particular line is
pretty telling, but only when you take it out of context.
I think, you know, I don't really know where it
is because of how it's labeled, so it's pretty hard
for me to guess I know where it was said,
but we'll have to wait on that, and I'll just
tell you what he said. He said everything is on

(40:06):
the table when he was asked about changes, But he
didn't say it in a way to say, yeah, I'm
probably about to reassign our line coach. Yeah I'm probably
just about to start playing Blake Fisher and Jarrett Patterson.
But when he says everything is on the table, what
he's actually saying is I recognize this isn't good enough.

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The play's not good enough, the communication's not good enough,
and our success is so heavily negatively impacted by it.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like CJ.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Stroud didn't get bad, He didn't forget how to play football.
The wide receivers didn't forget how to run routes. That
everybody didn't forget how to do their jobs. It's definitely
on you when you've now had two of the twenty
two games that CJ. Stroud has started where you absolutely
can't do anything on offense because there's no time to
do anything. And we saw the number of a minute ago.
Forty five percent of his twenty nine dropbacks. He was

(40:55):
pressured on thirteen times. And like I keep going back
to the Jets game, you had no chance. The only
chance you had to win was I Zach Wilson threw
an interception for a touchdown because you weren't going to
score any points, and unfortunately they didn't until the second half.
Then they scored thirty and you had none. You had
no chance offensively yesterday, Luckily Joe Mixon, who wasn't there

(41:16):
last year to save you in a Jets game, he
helped you move the ball a little bit. He obviously
scored both of your touchdowns, but you also put points
on the board when you turned them over. Two drives
started at the eleven. Another drive started in their They
had multiple drives starting in their territory, and they actually
at least put points on the board there. I mentioned
one thing about nevill Hewitt earlier, and it was kind

(41:38):
of a big deal. He should have done more on
the interception. He needed to run over Jordan Love, He
needed to not cut back into the defense. Scoring on
those plays is huge. Texans got a field will because
they then dropped a touchdown pass. Just run him over.
I can't believe he cut back.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
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Speaker 3 (42:22):
Wex and ac with you on a Monday edition of
the program. After the Texans fall at Green Bay twenty
four to twenty two, the final, last second field goal
takes care of the Texans being one of the few
one loss teams out there. They're not five and two,
and as wex mentioned and I agree, they're still a
good football team. It would have been better to grab

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this win, and it wouldn't. I don't think it would
have made anything like magically, Oh the Texans are so
much better. But it does look better if you're six
and one versus five and two, and who you're six
and one against and winning that game, especially on the road,
and all this thing because you, as you continue along
in CJ's career, very young, still very very early on,

(43:06):
you hope it's you know, a long, long, long, extended
career here in Houston. But the inability to win on
the road is becoming a thing. It's not always his fault.
In fact, I would say yesterday it was largely the
guy's in front of him more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But that's not gonna help your cause if you're got
this reputation of.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Only winning games at home or being so much better
at home where they'll be playing this week. By the way,
when you're for whatever reason, your inability to win on
the road in that setting, especially in a close game
like that, that makes it even tougher, you know, reputation wise.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I guess for CJ.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Stle that being said, they needed to score points at
the end of the game, and he drove right down
the field best drive of the game, and they did.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
But you know what, like if that game was in
Houston yesterday, just by virtue of it being at home,
do you think they win?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, because even though I don't think it was crowd induced. No,
they that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
The facts at some point the facts have to matter.
They don't. They don't lose games at home, It's crazy, don't.
And they continually lose whatever style of game I just
brought up. They haven't won a road game against the
NFC in five seasons. Each of the three games other
than the Minnesota game, these three out of the last
four is better way to say it have ended on
a last second game winning field goal in a non

(44:27):
tie situation. The Texans led each of their last three
losses by one score on the road against an NFC
team when the clock had zeros on it, they had
the lead, and then the field goal made its way through,
and then the lead changed hands and everybody walked off.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You hate about that stat.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
What were the three seasons prior to the last two,
I mean, they were terrible.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So they've lost four in a row. Yeah, No, it's
not good. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not trying
to dress enough teams. And you know, the CJ. Stroud era.
It's a good point because I brought it up too.
I brought up a stat that is relative to beyond
just the Demico CJ era, and that's an NFL standard.
If you win the turnover battle by three, forget it,

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the game's over.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You should absolutely win every one of those games. Yeah,
and they didn't because they were so bad offensively.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
So yeah, CJ's numbers continue to be very, very split.
When you look at his splits, the record is clearly
to be the case, is what I'm getting at. Yeah,
because you still can't do You're not Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
He just isn't.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
There's one guy in this league that is, and it's him,
And he can still win games when he gets no
protection other than the Super Bowl, and he doesn't have
the weapons that you think he needs, and he doesn't
have the run game that you want him to have,
he can still figure out a way. Like I don't
believe they were that much more talented than the we're
losing players left and right Niners yesterday, But I had

(45:56):
no doubt they were going to win, and they just
kept making the plays necessary and then they pulled away
late and had enough of a cushion that it wasn't
really a threat when the Pack or the Niners scored late.
But that's now twenty two career starts for CJ. Stroud,
the two games that were missed last year, and if
you wanted to add the playoffs so the numbers won't change.
They win nine out of eleven games at home, they

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win five out of eleven games on the road, and
CJ's twenty two starts it. Obviously, you just add one
to each category if you had the playoff games in there.
They beat the heck out of the Browns, and they
got beaten soundly in the second half by the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
But I would look a little bit deeper.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Into some of these games, especially when I can tell
you they went five and six and three of those
games were lost on a last play field goal.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, it sucks because it doesn't tell the whole story
when you see the record, but then you are what
your record say.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
They were at home are also on last player, very
very late scores. But what he has done with the
ball in the in this instance, he got the They
were also losing. At the two minute warning, they weren't winning,
but later in the game they were winning. Yeah, thanks
to he and the offense taking six plus minutes off
the clock and putting the go ahead score on the board.

(47:10):
I would have preferred it to have four more points
added to it, But.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
You know, and I think that, and I don't know
that we have it. I know Will Conkle has it
on his timeline, just because that's where I saw it.
Joe Mixon's SoundBite was every bit as great. Aaron Rodgers like,
wasn't it well, but you were talking about you were
talking about Stefan Diggs having one of the old timers
in the post game, you know, scrum or whatever. I

(47:34):
thought Joe Mixon's was very accurate, even though it doesn't
address the elephant in the room, which is that the
offensive line that could block for him just fine, mainly
because he's Joe Mixon. Was the same offensive line that
didn't allow them to win this football game on the
offensive side of things down the stretch because they could
not pass the ball. But he yeah, he was very

(47:54):
much not worried about it. It's like, we're still a
good football team. And I'm paraphrasing one of their worst
days of offense. They had one day like this last year,
only one. They've been held under two hundred yards twice
in CJ's career last year against the Giant, the Jets,
and yesterday they didn't play like the second half of
that game. Right, didn't he get concussed in the first

(48:16):
half of that game against the Jets.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
No, and this was in the second half.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Really I could have sworn he well, but that was
a big reason why they were ineffective.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yes, they had he had no chances numbered. Like I
said earlier, the numbers were almost identical. But my point is,
and then yesterday's game, well, okay, all that went wrong
and you had the lead with Zeros on the didn't
do it. You didn't do a lot, but you did
enough to find a way on the road at a

(48:48):
Super Bowl contender, well to have a positly, I mean,
I don't want to sit here and say they should
have won. That sounds ridiculous. Played offensively, Yeah, you've got
could have one.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
You've got the ball in CJ hands, and you're that
close down the stretch of a game in which you have,
let's face it, as much as you can say they contained.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
That offense, because anything, you're right.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
I don't think even I gave the Packers offense enough
credit just from the standpoint of they just have options
all over the field from a receiver standpoint that at
any given one of them can And then I mean, look,
Josh Jacobs didn't have an explosive day. He had a
couple of big runs, but you basically held him in
check for the most part. You did enough in two
of the three facets of the game to win this thing.

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Special teams included, but you just couldn't get it done
on offense. And to say that when you have a
guy like CJ. Stroud, I'm like, and here's the problem.
The only way to really address this offensive line is
probably through the draft. I mean, I guess you could
say you could go out and sign an offensive lineman,

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but most of the time, if you've got an amazing
offensive lineman at any of the five positions, you're hanging
on to them. If you can out there, that's even
remotely good.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
So I also have kind of sunk a lot of money.
I don't know how you have more free agent money
to spend on your offensive line.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I know, I know, and and I just that's the
problem here. I don't know how they would be less
of a problem.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
If you're saying, well, they're not spending much on this group,
what do you expect, Well, they're spending a ton on
this group.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
And it's again, it's easy to say, wow, game's won
in the trenches, but it is, like it really is.
And that's why it was so important to me and
you and a whole lot of people all off season.
It didn't seem like it was as important to them
or They're just misguided in how they addressed it, because
it's not to say they didn't address it.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
They did.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
You can address an offensive line and still not have
addressed it from the standpoint of getting better.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
That's what I think they did. They did not address
it at all. They thought the guys they had would
be better and they would be fine with the group
that they brought back. The only player that was essentially
added that's taken even one step this year is the
draft pick, and he was not anticipating having any impact
this year and he hasn't. Maybe in the future, maybe
he starts next year, which we've already said I think
he will. But they did not take him to make

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this year's offensive line better. They brought back five players
who had all taken steps with this offense, with this
oc with c. J. Stroud and said we're just gonna
be better next year, other than Kenyan Green during the
season because he got hurt before the season.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
All right, here's Joe Mixon to make sure everybody just
doesn't lose their minds over this loss.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
They look like I'm worried.

Speaker 11 (51:25):
Like I'm not worried at all.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Man.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
I mean, we got like I said, we got a
damn good football team, you know what I'm saying, And
at the end of the day, we are worse enemy,
and I think that we just got to go out
there respond. We're gonna go out there and learn from
the tape tomorrow and obviously just store it away. We're
gonna learn from it and we just gotta respond. And
I think that we're gonna respond in the hell of
away next week. So obviously it was a sex that

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we lost. We had opportunity and just came up short. Man,
just came up short. That's all they happened.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
You know what's funny about that SoundBite coming from that
guy Specifically, he's here like five minutes. He's been here
all of seven games, and he hasn't even played in
all of those, and he's talking like, look, we've got
enough here to win. We're shooting ourselves in the foot.
And I mean, as lopside is that Minnesota loss was,
and as close as yesterday's loss was, you could say that.

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I mean, it's it's not to not give credit where
it's due, but in the Minnesota game, penalty penalty, penalty, penalty.
That's one thing you can point to, specifically, the offensive line.
But just in general, it's not like the Texans were
penalizing themselves out of winning that football game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Far from it. They have cleaned up some things, I think.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
But for a guy like that who's still relatively new
to the locker room and wasn't here last year when
the culture shifted and Demiko was starting to install that
kind of thing and CJ was coming up and all, that,
seems pretty confident that he likes what he sees here.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Well, you said, he's only been here like five minutes.
You know where he has been, Cincinnati, the super Bowl. Yeah,
that's true, That's where he has been.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
He understands it. He understands what needs to get done
and what kind of team is put together. And I
think he almost tried to stop himself many times during
our early discussions the offseason, right before the year started
in making comparisons between that team with Burrow and this
team with Stroud. But he can't because there's so many similarities.
And that's why I thinks and I think he's gonna
end up back in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3 (53:54):
So, as bad as things had gotten for Deshaun Watson,
yesterday's probably rock. I mean, I know that legally you
could say he's had worst days, because I mean he's
he was going through it off the field. But to
have things go the way they have in his first
full season healthy back, and then to have him booed

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as he was running onto the field, and then to
have what happened yesterday is he ruptured his achille playing
his day.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
By the way, one of.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
The worst and best in this case replays that you're
ever gonna see it totally captured in slow mo.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
What happened.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
There's no doubt about it. It was just a matter
of the you know, the the confirmation by the imaging
which happened. Thank god they told us what MRI stands for.
Magnetic residence imaging has indicated parentheses MRI. Good statement.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
You don't like the uh.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I mean, we've been in this realm for such a
long period of time. I can't believe they went them.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
You prefer FBI to Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Any recent statement involving the FBI, do you remember them
about saying it out and then putting.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Into anymore they call him FEDS.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, so yeah, the Browns put out their statement. He
was in tears coming off the field as they had
to cart him off. His season is over this injury.
Can have him healthy when next year's season begins. Not
sure how much he would be cleared for off season
work and camp work presumably if I mean we just

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got done.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I don't mean it that way.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
But a player here with two of those injuries, cam
Akers and the surgery he chose to have. He was
back pretty quickly, by the way. He was in uniform
and on the field for the Vikings yesterday. He was
their kick returner. It's possible that Shaun Watson could come
back for next season. The Browns are they were in
a bad spot because their team was also bad, and

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they clearly need to make a determination on their future
with Watson. Not how do we get rid of him?
But is there any chance he could actually play well?
For That's why he keeps playing, That's why Kevin Stefanski
keeps sending him out there, because they're putting their future
in him ahead of the team.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
It also is a little bit easier to do that.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
I mean, I have some faith in Jameis Winston Winston,
and if I missed some sort of minor Winston injury,
I still I don't know if Sefanski was asked about,
I don't know what their thought was behind making him
the number three quarterback yesterday. That's why Dorian Thompson Robinson
came in first when Watson went down then he got
hurt after throwing two picks. Winston's a he's a backup.

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I legitimate. We have a chance to win this game
because our backup quarterback is Jameis Winston, like Marcus Mariota
and Washington, who might have to start next week, unlike
what is going on in Miami, which is now over
because two is probably going to start next week. But
back to Watson, this financially helps him a little bit
from an insurance standpoint, it definitely helps everybody else on

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the team. Maybe if Winston plays well enough to have
a respectable season, because otherwise they're headed towards finding his
replacement in the draft. I only think it's particularly good
draft for quarterbacks. Although you might fall in love with
cam Ward, you might fall in love with Sugar Sanders.
Don't think you can fall in love with anybody else,
certainly not Carson Beck or anybody that wears the other

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color uniforms that some people, stupidly, including Kirk Herb Street,
were talking about their draft protects and this was I
hope no longer after Saturday, but certainly before total nonsense.
But they're headed towards a three or four win season.
They're headed towards the top of the draft. No matter
I think what happens now, it's better for them, like

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last year with Joe Flacco did because Watson's games were
one actually won a bunch of games that he started
despite his poor play, and their offense is poor play.
So when Flacco came in, they had a chance to
continue that, and he did. They don't have a chance
to continue anything. They've played some of the worst football
in the NFL all season long.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah no, But going back to DeShawn, it's just assumed, oh,
he'll be back he'll be healthy.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Health is not the issue.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I know well that that's number one, it's healthy this year.
But number two, I don't know if healthy is just
assumed here.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Why.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I know, he plays quarterback, so it's different than if
you were running back or even a linebacker. In the
case of like Damiko Ryans, you always hear it takes
a year after their back for them to be, you know,
fully back to what they were or could have been, and.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Then it's just assumed that you would be. That's not
the case. I mean, I don't. I mean I am
assuming that.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
I assume that Deshaun Watson's health will not prevent him
from being a very good NFL quarterback. He will prevent
it because he's not good an.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, you start coupling that though with just a terrible
play and then just it seems like at this point
there is a lot stacked against him ever being a
even serviceable quarterback. Again, let alone the flashes of elite
that you saw here in Houston. That's never happened in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
It never will.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Yeah, the injury has nothing to do with it. How
many more games do people need to see? I mean,
the Brown are the only ones who have a different
answer because of their investment, because of what has I
mean have We still have his tape, we still have
the memories. We know it's there somewhere. Finding it again
is the difficult part, and all the other parts of
the offense have It's a shame, just strictly from a
football standpoint that as soon as they get Nick Chubb back,

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he's now not there. He's not gonna fix everything they
had going wrong offensively, but he certainly would help.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
He got cheered by the way when he ran onto
the field.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
If you paid attention to a few other games, including
the Texans game.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
People love Nick Chubb.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Yeah, teams that have him clearly, teammates that have been
with him, but other players in the NFL, and.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
It is a good story. It is not easy.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
It is dark, and DeShawn is unfortunately from a football
standpoint only, he's headed into a dark rehab place. This
is it's no fun to be there. From that standpoint,
I probably could have done I get back in your teammate.
It's really no different when we have had my team here.
I mean Ray Rice situation, Leonard lie Little situations to
Shawn situation. They're all different from a what have you

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done wrong or what have you been punished by the
NFL for for doing wrong? And I get you're in
the locker room, and I get these are your guys
and you're on the field, and there's got to be
a brotherhood and a camaraderie and a we have your back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
But you don't have to pull the glass houses line
on a guy who has nearly thirty cases for the
same type.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Of he's been a model citizen during his college career
and most of the pros. Yeah, he said like he.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Said it with a straight face, and then he was
talking about perfect the booing. I think it's hard to
separate it. Like there's times where the home fans boo
the home team and they get it. They're like, why not,
look at what we're doing. They're coming out here and
supporting us and they always have and we're giving them this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
We're playing like this. I don't have a problem with it. All,
go right ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
We deserve it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Well, from an injury standpoint, I think most of us
are on the same page. That's when it stops, that's
when it's not called for. I mean, I think, well,
I agree, but I do think that you can't help
but understand. And again I'm not in their their head.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
So fans could be booing for a variety of different reasons,
and I think a lot of them were fans booing
him because he's sucked as a quarterback, and sucked as
a quarterback only. And so you're now now you're happy
that he's hurt because he will no longer be able
to suck as a quarterback for you this year, that's probably,
but if you know all of the background coming in.

(01:01:32):
But then again, you're assuming that they didn't cheer for
him when they thought he was going to be good.
They didn't care about those cases back then. That's just
how the NFL is, and it's unfortunate, and that's where
we're at. But yeah, he's that is a U You
talk about a dark place. Yeah I would. I wouldn't
want to be walking around into Shawn's head right now, especially,
but not that I ever really wanted to before that,

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because I think he had some stuff going on before this.
But yeah, he's he's like That's why I say rock bottom.
Every thing that's happened with him, I'm not gonna say
to him because he brought a lot of that on himself,
but everything that's happened prior to this, he's in a
bad spot right now as a as a man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
More so than anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And this is just gonna you'll you'll see a lot
about what Deshaun Watson is I think, just just based
on whether or not he bounces back and is able
to take the field again. But I'm expecting whatever's lesson
zero sympathy from ninety nine percent of people out there
for the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Yeah, I'm not gonna determine what he's gonna be like
when he comes back, but it's a step away. Could
be good a benching, you know, a couple of weeks
to watch the offense. I already had suggested that I
don't know that watching the offense and rehabing an achilles
injury is gonna do much for him to begin next year,
or to begin twenty twenty six, or if the Browns
even want him on the field to do that, to

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give him a chance, because they actually now have a
chance to readdress their quarterback situation maybe a little bit differently,
there's uncertain to be to be out his health and
thus his play. They could absolutely turn the page and
say we have the second pick in the draft, and
Shade Sanders is there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
We want him. And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I don't think they can say beat it. I think
he's going to have to stay on the roster because
of how terrible it is for them capwise.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
He stays on the roster and you draft should a Sanders. Okay,
now you have this humongous financially financially paid whatever distraction,
that's all he would be. At that point, You've got
a young kid, and now you've got a reminder that
you just ponied up all this money to this guy
over here who sucks by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
I mean, yes, there are some of that who's on
that side saying he shouldn't he shouldn't be in the city.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You got to have him on the field. He's got
to be the starter. There's got to be a competition. No,
But what I'm saying is why I wouldn't want him around.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
If you decide, if you make the decision to go
get Sanders, then I think you have to make the
decision to rid yourself of Deshaun dead cap hit whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I mean, what's ther your paying?

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Want Sanders to succeed and You're gonna be in a
really bad spot if you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Why because you're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Have any money to get any players that can help him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Not your fault, you're Cleveland. I don't feel bad for
you either. I don't feel bad for anybody involved in
that situation. And I am glad the C. J. Stroud
is the quarterback here in Houston, Texas the eighteen on
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Now, the good, good, the bad that's not good, and
the ugly that's getting real ugly. With the eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Singasure segment time each and every day around four thirty,
we hit you with that today's Monday. So today is
the good, the bad, and the ugly, all sorts of
things to choose from.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'll take the bad, dan the ugly AC that means
you start.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Well, I'm gonna do so at the I'm gonna I'm
gonna pat myself on the back. There were a lot
of actually good things to take away from yesterday's loss,
believe it or not, But right at the top of
that list, Joe Mixon he went in and basically asserted
his dominance in a game that was big in stature

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and everything else that comes with it. I said that
if the Texans were to grab a win on the
road at lambeau Field, he would be a big part
of things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
And he certainly was one of the leading rushers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Statistic wise especially, but two touchdowns as well on the
day around the NFL. So he didn't have a Saquon
Barkley performance, but no one else did either. So yeah,
I'm gonna say that Joe Mixon and the running game
in general were a very good part of yesterday's game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
That's pretty safe to say. Good job, thanks asking her
for and expecting Joe Mixon to have another good game.
It's pretty much all he sad here, right. Ah, there's
three running backs in the NFL averaging over one hundred
yards but per game, but saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
One of those games correct.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
But but you know, thinking he's going to do it
against a good defense and then doing it are two
different things. And I just every time he does something
like that, and I get it. Pass protection and run
protection are two different things. But if I'm going to
keep crapping on this offensive line and I am by
the way until he gave me reason not to. I
just think, especially coming off of last year where a

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lot of these guys were out there, it is impressive
to me that he's able to do what he's doing
when Damian Pierce hadn't even single Darry wasn't doing what
Joe Mixon is doing. And I get it, he's a
he's a higher tier running back, but he still got
to do it. He still has a lot of tread
off the tires, and he's shown that was a very
very good acquisition.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Yeah, those three players I mentioned quite interestingly, at least
to me. Hopefully you guys as well. They all change
teams to be a free agency this offseason. Technically, if
you include Joe, he didn't technically join the Techs in
free agency. They prevented him from being cut into free
agency by saying we have a total use of seventh
round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Is that enough?

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Absolutely, he's yours. Taekwon Barkley's ahead of him in yards
per game. He obviously was a target of the Texans
and he's now with the not New York Giants, but
he was there yesterday. And of course Derrick Henry, who
plays tonight, also leaving the Titans for much greener pastures
in Baltimore, where he has been insanely successful. The bad

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for me again Texans related, was there inability to adjust.
It's kind of not out of the ordinary in the
NFL for you to get things figured out inside the
course of those three hours. It doesn't have to be
at halftime, doesn't have to be in between quarters. It
can be in between drives, it can be at some
point during the game you figure things out. Even though

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I've complimented the Texans offense for how they ran the
final drive of the game up until the last three snaps,
I mean, take six minutes off the clock, take the lead,
and you know, finally have at least enough success con
for two third downs via passing the football at that
stage of the game, once to Digs and once to Hutchinson.
Those were good things. I don't really know that they
made much of an adjustment to get there. And that's

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what's bad.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
This is and Dimiko is pretty clear about this is
on the coaches. This is in game that's which you
know how difficult it is to make a change when
you see this isn't working, and so kind of this
part of the playbook. Maybe now we can't use when
we thought we could. Yeah, difficult or not. That's what
you're there to do. That's why you're coaching the team.
That's why Bobby Slowak's calling the plays. That's why he's

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built an offensive playbook. This is what all of the
coaches are there. That's why they sleep on their couches
and don't see their kids and burn the midnight oil. Yeah,
that's exactly what they're so they believe they can go
out there and do and that's why you see so
many games where well they certainly didn't look like this
in the first half, or they certainly were able to
do this. At some point, you gotta put it on

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your shoulders and say, look, this is what we thought
was gonna happen. We spent an entire week preparing for this,
and we were wrong. And our guys can't do it,
or we are giving them no chance with what we're
calling offensively or defensively.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
We have to change.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
And from an offensive standpoint, against the Packers defense, they
just didn't make a change start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
That was bad.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, that's that's actually a very good one. Wex I
wanted to tell you that you did a good job
and you're a part of this segment as well.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
I will see if we can go three for three here, Dan, Yeah,
the ugly I mean it's you guys have touched on
a lot already, but the final three plays of the
Texans last offensive possession. And the funny thing is with
this offense this year, I really kind of feel like
the Texans and the Astros are pretty much tracking on
the same front. Where what was our concern with the
Texans coming into this season, much like the starting rotation

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with the Astros, it was a defensive line. Defensive line's
actually been pretty good. And if you're going to try
to put that final drive on the defense yesterday you
touched on a little bit earlier, Like I mean, the
fact that you honestly know that all they have to
do is go about thirty thirty five yards and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
They beat you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
That field goal is pretty much inconsequential at that point,
Like why aren't there more shots taken down the field?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And I get you don't have Nico Collins right now,
and I get that your.

Speaker 9 (01:10:14):
Best offensive weapon for that drive got stuffed on the
first two plays, but then a boundary throw where they
don't have to burn that time out like I mean,
tell me you weren't trying to play for the field
goal without actually telling me you were trying to play
for the field goal.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
I think under these new situations in the NFL, with
the ball starting at the thirty, if it's a touchback,
which you're almost assuredly going to want to do. They
did give up one big return, but I don't blame
their their coverage teams because the only reason it was
big is because the Packers cheated, and luckily the officials
saw it and they called it, and they obviously moved
it back. It's it's I think that is what they did.

(01:10:52):
It's okay to have confidence in mix and he's already
run for one hundred and seventeen yards at that point
in the game. He actually lost five yards on those
two runs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Down to one twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
It's okay to believe we're trying to score and call
a smart They need to use their time out play
by giving the ball to one hundred yard rusher, a
guy who has had success, a guy who has almost
all of your explosive plays. I'm not sure are the
Texans great and explosive play, but CJ's first completion of
the game went to Dalton Schultz.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
He got twenty eight yards.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
It felt good, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
It was their entire pass of explosive plays basically. I
mean maybe there was a catch where a guy ended
up with seventeen. They just didn't have it yesterday from
that standpoint, so yeah, I do think they played it
that way. Be nice if you got the first and
ten from the twelve with fifty seconds left instead of
it the two minute warning would have been nice if
the Packers weren't a different timeout situation. They needed to

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get points, they needed to take the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
They did that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I think there was a different way to attack it
and still accomplish some of those things. And again, if
you're going to try to rid them of their three timeouts,
well then rid them of their three timeouts. Honestly, I
don't think it would have mattered. I think the Packers
probably play it pretty similarly anyway. The whole field's open.
You got a minute forty four left, you can do
whatever you want. And even on the last play where

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they did use their time out, that had more than
enough time to run up there and spike it, which
is what they would have had to do had they
played that whole thing out without a timeout. So they
kick it on second down instead of first down. It's
totally inconsequential. Well, there's a few other plays we haven't
really gotten into, like the non challenge of the forward
or backward pass. Definitely looked like the Texans were in

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a little bit of not sure what to do. Here's
what the guys are telling me from up top, but
what should I do here? You could clearly see for
those that were not on site the TV version, Tamiko
Ryans is jumping up and down and screaming and hollering.
Didn't look like so to get the attention of the officials,
which sometimes you do if they can't see the flag
if you throw it properly, unlike Jeff Olbrich of the

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Jets in a good way, but he was really trying
to get somebody's attention right before they snapped it and said,
here's Dangelo Ross, let's throw by him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
And they scored on a thirty yard touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Credit to the Packers for getting up to the line
just to get the playoff to begin with.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Yeah, Jordan Love acknowledge it after the game. We don't
know what they're gonna do. We know it's probably smarter
to do this. Matt gave me a Matt Leafleur's head coach,
he gave me a play. We got a hurried up
and we went there and ran it for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety Adam Clinton
and Adam Wexler.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
The A Team now continues.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Winding down the four o'clock hour here on Sports Talk
seven nineteen Space City Home Network.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
It is the A Team, Stan Northfleet of Next Up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
We'll join us for the next two segments to start
off the third and final hour of the program. Let's
get some of you guys in there, are in here,
I should say at seven one three, two one two five,
seven ninety, Jacob on the North Side up first day,
what's up, Jacob?

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Hey? Man? An old line? That ain't that terrible?

Speaker 12 (01:14:05):
Because look how many yards that mixing at and before
Nico went out, look how they were stretching the field,
So there was given time. I think, like you said,
they got adjust. They got to adjust. Man, they got
the talent on the line, but they offensive coordinator gotta
for one thing. I don't understand why my man is
not under centered sometime to quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
With short yardists, Why don't he try to quarterback sneak?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Why don't he do?

Speaker 12 (01:14:32):
They don't?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Why don't they do you know, fake fake it to
my man the running back.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
And go overne court a play action? Why don't do
any play action?

Speaker 12 (01:14:42):
He just gotta go ahead and switch it up a
little bit, because they can do both, you know what
I'm saying now doing both with it, And they did
in the first game with Indianapolis mixing had a good
game and they had a good passing game. They scored
a lot of points. Now and with with with Watson,
and Watson got so much brid he can just quit
football and just kick his speed up. These little suits

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they ain't getting that much. He's he free, the free
man and Cleveland and Cleveland, Uh should door? Deana is
not letting shud Door go to Cleveland. They can forget
about that. You go through the Archie Manning. Absolutely not.
He is not going to Cleveland. He going to Miami Bay.
He going to a high caliber, you know, high market team.

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He's not going to Cleveland. They can have Cleveland, all right, man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Wow, pretty funny, yes it is. But first of all,
I'm just looking at the bot right now. The Carolina
Panthers are in a uh well three way tied technically
right now, but the Titans will probably have something to
say about that too. For the services of Shader Sanders.
I don't know who ends up getting the first pick
or how that all works out, but.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
There's four teams with one win and right technically speaking,
and be the Patriots that hold that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Number one spot right now, Carolina and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Cleveland follow Yeah, I think Carolina seth though well clearly,
I mean both ways they're Yeah, they're good Andy Dalton
now and we haven't. There's no reason to talk about
it because Carolina doesn't matter to the Texans. But it's
probably time to go back to him. Like they're getting
their teeth kicked in with Andy Dalton? Is he learning

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something from this? Is getting better? Already made their decision,
he's we can't even play him, like it's time to
put Bryce Young back out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I say that's the decision. Then you've made the decision
on his career, right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Which I don't think that they have yet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Was it just a change of pace? Yeah, they're just
putting in Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
He was doing things that suggested he wasn't really grasping
what they wanted from him, or he was incapable of
doing what they were asking of him. At this current time,
it's a new offense, new OC, new coach. All those
things were there. And so in addition to the fact
that their team stinks like the Commanders yesterday, this is
like the fourth time they've done it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Oh, we have the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Guess what, We're scoring the whole freaking game. And this
didn't even matter after Jaden and Daniels left. Jaden doesn't
matter who they're playing. They just go out there and
they score every possession.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
What a man, Indy Cowboys are watching that, Like, really, really,
we just paid Dak Prescott in our division rival, one
of our division rivals is looking like their set at
quarterback for the future with a guy better than us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Potentially, it's just not an exact science the option.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
I mean, the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Washington football team didn't really decide, well, we're gonna take
a chance and see if we can find our quarterback
of the future. We'll take the l's that go with it.
They were gonna lose anyway to have a quarterback they
were playing. They played Sam Howell for an entire year. Yeah,
in an attempt to get to the top of the draft.
The Cowboys would have to do that moving forward, like

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the year they decide not to pay Dak, which isn't
this year, it's next year, and then they would have
to lose those games while Dak would have played out
the final year of his deal before leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
They're in a bad spot.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
It's a tough spot to be and yes, that's the
worst place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
This is why you don't pay your quarterback unless you're sure.
Jacksonville same thing, and he's not even as good as Dak.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
They could get to the number one pick again, Yeah,
in five years.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
I mean just this, This is why though paying guys
whomever they are and whatever team that you better be sure.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It's why, Well, how.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Many of them, if you can give yourself a second,
how many of these teams do you think have made mistakes?
Obviously we think Cleveland made a mistake with going after
Deshaun wats right, And you're basically saying you think the
Cowboys should have opted for Yeah, let's just let him
walk after this year. So maybe you're you're saying that's
two are there? And Trevor Lawrence I mean, I've called

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in a mistake from moment one, and I don't have
not changed my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
So that's three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Pretty much everybody's gotten paid. Like everybody's gotten paid. The
kirk Cousin is one of the few guys ever that
keeps getting mon but he doesn't really ever get the
team commitment that we're attaching to all these other coreter
He's not signing a five year, two hundred and fifty
million dollar deals, signed five, three, two and three year
deals that eventually add up to comparable money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
But is did the Dolphins make a mistake because of
his history?

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Well, in hindsight, it's easy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
He's back. He's back on Sunday. Then okay, he's back
on Sunday. And what is everybody going to be talking about?
This is how you know what or not you made
a mistake. Are they gonna be talking about how, oh
great the Dolphins they're back, They're gonna have a capable
quarterback to throw these amazing two receivers they have, or
is it going to be hey, when's the next time?
Not if when's the next time he's gonna get hit

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and concussed and we have this whole thing we just
did all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Come on, you know which one it is. That's how
you know you made a mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
This was the nothing really changed they they chose that
we feel confident that after one year of staying healthy,
we're going to commit to him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
And that's the scary part, like and contraction.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Speaking away from the quarterbacks, if you needed any evidence
as to why players, non quarterbacks especially do not want
to play that last year of the deal after they've
clearly outperformed it, Brandon Ayuk held out, I need my money,
I need long term. I can't do this not playing
for that out for the year. By the way, it

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has some financial security because of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
The forty nine ers are one of the main proponents
of me probably retiring from fantasy football. Your baby, like, Matt,
you can call me whatever you want. I'm not paying
X amount of dollars and then getting the number one
pick in the draft and having not one, not two,
but three guys just completely vanish from a fantasy standpoint,
He's at the top of that list.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Take a look at a roster that's not yours. Same story.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Oh no, I know, but That's what I'm talking about.
So why quitn't Because anytime that could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Ross.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I was texting with Ross about the earlier because what
about those back to back championship years, wasn't that fun?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
I go, yeah, that was fun. But I told him
the same thing. I'll say here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
This has been the first season where, and that includes
where I just had bad years for whatever reason, it's
been the first season where it just hasn't been fun.
Like each and every it's like, oh, we'll go to
the waiver wires. Nothing, there's nothing there. There's nothing. I
feel like al Pacino in what was a Devil's Advocate,
there's nothing out there for you. That's what I feel

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like every time I go to the waiver wire. There's
nothing to replace that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah, I know. Here's the thing, and this is you can.
You'll probably call me names for this too. Baby's probably
it for the segment. You might call me soft for this.
I don't care. You play for the Patriots. No, no, no, no,
and they're not soft. Just ask Bill Belichick. I played
with some of those guys last year. That's not really fair.
They're not soft.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I think ten teams is better than twelve teams for
that very reason. I'm not saying, oh, you've got to
give me, But there's nothing there if you have a
major injury, there's nothing there for you, not not at
a reliable position. I mean, there's about the only thing
that you're gonna be able to find somebody fill in on,
like a bye week, but there's in a season like this,

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you're bleeped.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
And that's where I'm at right now. So good night.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Politely, we'll decline the opportunity to name call you and
will politely disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Well, you can call me whatever you want. I'm just
telling you what's I've probably season. I'll be back next year.
I don't mind you like burning money. And that's the
difference between us.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
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Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
A team a.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Wex an Ac year with you at five o'clock, joined
by Stanton Northfleet on a Monday. Welcome everybody back in here.
The Texans did not win, so we have standing here
off of a loss, and he's already given you two
hours of fire and a Monday blame games, over reaction, reaction,

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and there he is. Welcome in stan.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
Thank you, gentlemen. Good day to you. We appreciate JB.
Thibbeau allow me to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Did you overreact for two hours or did you just
think that because I know you predicted this was going
to be a one point loss by the Texans.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
Yes, when the schedule came out before the season even
kicked off Week one, I had this as a loss,
just trying to look at the paper rosters. So do
you get to the real roster, No Nico and no
five starters on defense going on the road, versus that
head coach and that group of skilled position players, and
obviously Jordan Love it was just gonna be an uphill

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task anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Is it fair to say, though, because you mentioned that
the defensive starters, there were a ton of them, and
we both agreed, Lassiter's absence was the most extreme of
the many that they had to deal with.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
M S.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
I would say, as it's the only one that mattered
in the game, the only one that mattered. Give me
Azz more than lass He's a better player, but his
loss was not why you had struggles defensively. The fact
that DiAngelo Ross is on the field for three hours
is why you lost that game. If you're saying the
defense is at all culpable, because they just attacked them
the whole game.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
So if we're gonna say Russian coverage go together and
A z's this year, the way that Demiko is dialing
up pressure, then A z's would have had more opportunities
to impact the quarterback. Thus, Jordan Love weren't able to
the in position to take a shot at those corners.
D'Angelo Ross and who else was out there. My gosh,
Eric Murray had his moments, and so I just think

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Azise puts the defense in a different position, not that
Hewitt and Jansen played poorly, But your point is taken.
I go rush then coverage. You sound like you go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
We was really going to be getting after Jordan loved
with how the Packers like to use Jacobs and obviously
play action, just just the way they do things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Do you think he's been used this year?

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
I think he would have been more impactful than what
they had, what they were working with, And I think
Jimmy Ward still has plenty he had left on the
tires when he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Me I'm more mad. What do you want to do
with Jimmy Ward though?

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
What we mean, Oh he's on the roster?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
No, I mean where are you gonna put him? You're
just taking Murray off the field and put.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
On Murray off the field and putting letting him play
for Murray and the bullet is clearly a player. And
I told you draft night, but.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
Nobody you were right. You're one hundred percent right. And
we were on the same board three picks. Now, he's
been amazing from the fourth one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Yeah, the touchdown press just Jordan Love put an absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Repeat, Rocket made awesome plays. Love made an awesome throw
Craft made an awesome catch and if you look at
it from behind, Jordan Love, whether you've seen the coaches
safe or they gave you that angle on CBS, yep.
Bullock read it, reacted to it, bolted over there and brilliant.
I didn't. I don't know if he said it or
was asked about it. The replay I saw actually looked

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like he did get a fingertip. He did everything right.
He was a cast, made the play.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Absolutely so to me, I take a lot of stock
and Gordon and I went back and forth this morning
as we always do, my radio partner, Chris Gordon, and
he puts more emphasis in premium on you had the
lead with a min in in whatever it was men
in in forty five seconds the Green Bay Drive. I

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look at it and go, yeah, you had a lead,
but you didn't have the lead like you still de
Miko coached with an arm behind his back all day
by not having five guys, by going up against that group,
it was a bad.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
His other hand also behind his back because of the
eleven guys he had on offense.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
Now, my boy slowg had a rough day. I tried
guys to go back and go okay, Bobby walk me
through this one. What exactly were we thinking again.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Well, go ahead, I want to know what they were thinking,
because again I told him this, it's not that they
didn't address the offensive line this offseason. He threw money
at it and draft position draft on. Yeah, but like
he said, I don't know if if I don't know,
if you're looking at this season for that contribution.

Speaker 5 (01:27:47):
I think they drafted Blake Fisher knowing at some point
this season, case in point, you're just going to have
to play. That's why you move up in the second.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Round to take that guy, because Titus is so iffy
and lamom me okay, but if Titus is that iffy
and they didn't commit to him this season, it was
last year, right.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
They all got it, Shack Shack, Titus and Lammie all
got extensions last year, two years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Now coming into last season, right, right, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
You you addressed it, you threw money at it. And
what I was telling him though, like, you're you're going
to have to improve the offensive line primarily through the draft,
because if it's a good offensive lineman most of the time,
unless it's like a franchise left tackle, who's just the
team's like, we can't pay.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
That f Williams was traded.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
For the most part, you're not gonna I mean, you
might get a guy in free agency that's an impact
guy on the offensive line, but I just feel like
really good offensive lines through the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
That's not gonna happen overnight.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
But they've done that right. Wex back to back years, gentlemen.
They put six round pick Jared Patterson Notre Dame, second
round pick last year Sena Drew excuse me, this year,
second round pick Blake Fisher draft, and they're going to
do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
And the year before that, they took Kenyan Green.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
Kenyon Green in the first round. Good call by y'all,
I forget about him. Tough day for that brother as well.
Juice struggled that Listen, I got a tip the cap
and I'll come back to what you're saying in offensive
line bys, But I truly believe it is remarkable and
I can't wait to look at the coach's tape. What
Jeff Hafley, the defensive coordinator for the Packers, who a
year ago was a head coach in college at Boston

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College where Bill O'Brien is now six degrees, he made
CJ believe and that offensive line they were sending more
than they really were. Thus the word or the term
simulated pressure CJ. And that offensive line saw goals. I
got this number Green Bay blitch just five times, just

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five on strouts, twenty five dropbacks. But by positioning and
doing some exotic things in nature, they made the offensive
line believe. And you got plays where three guys are
blocking one and another guy's coming free. You got Xavier
McKenny coming from the backside when the line is fanning
out to the right, twists, twists, stunts, games he was

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seeing and they had him. So I said, Jeff Halfley,
you absolutely cooked. I got Bobby slogan. I didn't think
i'd see it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Yeah, there's no question about. They got out worked and
they got out schemed. And the scheme part of it
was was more like, I don't know if you agree.
So I will ask the physicality of the Texans line,
their strength, their ability to actually hold their spots, block
well from a get engaged and handle your position.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
If you got a hat on him, you're going to win.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
I actually feel like they have done a significantly better
job of that with that five player group. But it's
all the other stuff that it's so far out of
whack they're they're losing because they don't know what they're doing.
And I'm not trying to insult them. I was saying
what you just said, there are too many guys. Oh,
I'm I'm leaning right, We're going right with this blocking scheme.
Well then the guy just runs right past somebody and

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he turns around and goes, was that my guy? And
then when they're running the games and the stunts, they
clearly are getting that those players are getting lost.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Titus how it fell down on his own looking for
us at.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
The beginning of the game. He was backing up and
Schultz was lined up. Either as lined up too close
or he didn't get out of the way too he
tripped him, fell over and that stopped this. No no, no, no, no, no,
he tripped him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
It's clear as day.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
Yeah, like, I don't know that this offensive line. And
some people are gonna say, well, wait a minute, guys.
Joe Mixon went for one fifteen at four point six
yards to carry in two touchdowns. I've been one and
I believe this as a football philosophy. Again, that's a
Bill parsels ism. Like all running backs run the same
when there is no hole. So it's not that they're

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always awful up front, is just when it's bad, it's
glaringly bad. And it's gotta be frustrating for CJ. For
those that would say, oh, just let CJ throw the
ball forty times. I believe Bobby Sloyd and it impacted
the final drive the fair band field go to Lee.
I believe Bobby Sloyd knew. I just can't let seem on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
It looked like they were scared to throw the football
with CJ. Shroud as their quarterback. That is a crazy
sentence to utter.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
It was a matchup that particular bunch. And here's the
other crazy part. Miles Garrett didn't play. T J. Watt
didn't play, Hutchinson didn't play for Green Bay. That was
just a group of highly drafted.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Guys had success against Miles Garrett in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
We saw what they did at Pittsburgh and tjy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
There is no rhyme reason right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
The defenses are gonna be different when they have those guys.
I know TJ's gonna beat his man. I'm not gonna
run all this exotic stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I don't need to. I got high Smith on it.
We're gonna win. They're gonna win their one on ones.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
I'm not gonna throw crazy stuff at you because now
I can commit the other seven guys to playing the defense.
Will these guys win? Same thing with Cleveland? How they
can do Green Bay? Doesn't you just said they don't
have those players.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
They beat you with vanta, They scheme you the backwards forward.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
They know that. You know I got Jay, Alexander and
Xavier McKenny over here. I did you to get careless
with the football because we take it away more better
and more than anybody else in the league. Nico front
goal comes at you in ways because you don't want
to release the football.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
See this is where I think you miss Nico the most.
What you just talked about. I know that he's trying
to convince me how great Alexander is. I'm not having
it though, not having this crap.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
I'm not saying he was great on Sunday. I'm saying
he just is a great deal.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
He was great at this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
He didn't do anything, but like he said, he didn't
have to because you didn't get if Nico Collins is
on that field. And this isn't an insult to Stefan Diggs.
It's just that Nico Collins is a beast. Throw a
jump ball against either of those two Jabbronis and I'll
take Nico every single time.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
You didn't have that option, Nico. I don't think change
is the score of this game. I think Green Bay
wins with Nico on the field. They lost this game
yesterday because the quarterback for the other team was giving
the ball versus a defense with five dudes out, not
counting Christian Hank.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
You don't think there's and I know this totally excuses
the final drive of the Texans by saying this. You
don't think that the last team that had the ball
yesterday was going to be the winner.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
The Pins, I would say probably. And we'll get to
this on the other side at some point, maybe like
the Texans have not just proven to be a different
team on the road.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Yeah, we were talking about that and we will actually
get into that a little bit as well. Plus we
got to get your thoughts on what happened in Austin,
you know, yeah, yeah, we haven't talked about it yet either.
But we'll get dive into more more Texans conversation with
Stan Norfleet when we come back here on the eighteen.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Talking all these games, Maybe we should talking about tickets.
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Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Space City Home Network Sports Talk seven ninety. You're on
a Monday edition of the show. I mean, Stan Northleet
is here with us. We had a good long conversation
in the opening segment. We had a second half is
long conversation. During the break in the action, you guys
just argue no, we discuss things. I want his point

(01:35:55):
of view on why did you him?

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I'm just kidding. That's at a good distance from my.

Speaker 5 (01:35:59):
Last he's Austin disappointment out on your boy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah, I guess we'll go there next.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Listen, I don't know have a problem with the fans
throwing a bottle on the field, and I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Well, several bottles on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Do the officials look at that if they don't do
that as intently as they did, Because I'm gonna say something, ever,
I'd say kudos to the officials for changing the call
to the right call. Even if it took a bunch
of kids throwing water bottles on the field to make
them do it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
That was the right call. I think it was unbelievable.
Horse maneuver. Wrong call. You cannot do that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
You can call.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
You cannot change that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
If the call and you discuss it and then you
announce it and then you enforce it, you can't review it,
which they didn't. It's over.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Move on.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
It was not believe they did that. It was I
I guess the call was incorrect. I agree that you
made it and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Then you announced it. It's over.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
You've already had your discussion. How did I cannot When
he turned his mic on and addressed the crowd, I'm like,
I can't believe he's gonna penalize the Longhorns for what
the fans He's about to announce a fifteen yard penalty.
And then he said that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
I was like, Okay, what if this is what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Just follow me. What if one of the officials was
like this, that's bad, that's not the right call. Here's
what I saw. That's the discussion. You gotta change this so.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
You got new information new INFA was the official in
the initial discussion, I.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Don't know that's what You're right, Well, maybe he wasn't
a part of the initial discussion. I'm just saying that
I'm not going to get mad at officials for making
the right call, even if it took them making the
wrong call first, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Know what the way they went about it, get it right,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Like that's I can't sit in this chair every day
and bitch about officiating the way I do, and then
when they do that, I don't like the way you
did it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
Did we have an issue in the Texans game. The catch,
no catch, bobble it. This contact is on the ground. Yes,
before the Great Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
K I think he did catch it. Initially live I
thought he probably didn't. He didn't make a football move
when he hit the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Well he was, he was already on the ground, thus
tackled the ball, had not moved. I felt like that
was probably.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Way exact same sequence. Moved the two bodies into the
end zone. Is that getting.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
And I don't know if, But there are different rules,
so it's fair to to to bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Did catch the ball? You're a Cowboys fan?

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
If you hate the Cowboys, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
I didn't them.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Yeah, he got the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
He clearly took two steps and no.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
But but now we get to see the continued erosion
of Jerry's empire.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Did the game itself, we obviously didn't mention it at all.
Did anything that happened on Saturday night in Austin say
something you didn't already know in a good way? Well,
Texas hasn't played anybody yet, but now we know they
can play with anybody. Or did it not tell you?
Did it actually show you? They aren't quite to the
level of maybe the best team in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
I think you saw levels Texas is. Texas is towards
the bottom of the few teams that are Tier one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
Georgia and Kirby Smart came in there with two national titles,
and the better head coach had his team, which is
less talented than the team in burn Orange. He had
them ready to go. And I told Gordon Gordon we
were on Friday. He said, what do you think? I said, bro,
I think Athens and U versus George is gonna come
up in Austin and it's gonna be a problem. Twenty
three zip. At the break, I told Gordon night night, like,

(01:39:44):
this is right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Why did okay?

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
So then, why did everybody that was prognosticating whatever, Why
did they think that Georgia just had no chance because
of their quarterbacks?

Speaker 5 (01:39:56):
Quarterback was a come.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
On, Georgia had the way it was the way it
was framed by whomever going into that game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Favorite, Yeah, but it was like I think I think
Georgia was getting the You lost a lot reputation, but
you know what, Texas lost a lot from the receiving corps,
like and you saw it because quinn Ewrs looked pedestrians
being polite Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Georgie's played in more of those games for Archy, which
and then they went back, and I thought going back
was the right thing to do. George's played in more
of those games than saw and you just saw guys
that even though the guys that played didn't necessarily touch
the field of ton during those two titles, you saw
a coach that made his guys believe you might as

(01:40:45):
well have been out there because you're in the ore
basking in the glory of what Georgia football is. I
think the mystique of Georgia was too much, and when
the wave hit the guys early in Austin, it was
just they could never get back on track, and when
they did, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Too little to I didn't think it was a mistake.
I think just Georgia's defense was that good around. They
were just like, we're gonna hit you guys in the mouth,
and you haven't you haven't faced the defense like this physicality.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yeah, coming back on Sunday, I've seen enough. Now. The
Texans play with a whole bunch of for nests and
they are physical in spurts, but when they go against
Baltimore and when they go up against Now, they did
beat the Steelers convincingly a year ago, but I'm just thinking,
like Baltimore Minnesota this year, they just told the Texans,

(01:41:32):
we're just going to beat more physical, We're going to
run around more. Yesterday, I thought the Green Bay Packers
challenged the Texans to a fight in the alley, and
the Texans were not just up to the level of physicality.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
I got a Leary slash prediction for you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
I think they beat the Chiefs and they lose to
the Ravens because of what you just said.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
That three game stretch, what is it? It's three games?
Is it fifteen days?

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Those fifth three All the participants, as he pointed out,
I didn't know this, which is stupid of me, are
all dealing with that same type of schedule. So it's
not like there's any unfair advantage for any of them.
But because of what you just said, I think because
Lamar scares the Bejesus out.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
Of me, Big Henry Lamar, we said it when they united,
that's gonna be a problem him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
With Derek Henry.

Speaker 5 (01:42:19):
Now, that's what I'm saying. That's a problem. Kansas City's
Kansas City, the lone remaining undefeated team in the year.
Kansas City showed San Francisco again. There's levels. San Francisco's
in that Tier one level, like they're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
But if we got done all season long talking about
how unimpressive Kansas City was, as they continue to win,
they're even less impressive on offense this year they're better defensively.

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
Great point by you. It made me have this thought,
and I know I'm hopping around a little bit for
the sake of time. All of a sudden, the game
Sunday determines who wins the AFC SID with the Coats
coming in here, Colts win. It's a share, right, they
split the series, and now the Coats and the Texans
have the same record, and it becomes the Colts are

(01:43:03):
tied with the Texans for the AFC.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
I don't know who's available on Sunday for the Texans.
I think the Texans are going to beat the crap
out of the Colts this week.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
They should. Jonathan Taylor didn't play on Sunday. What was
Anthony Richardson's completion percentage is.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Like worse than every quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
That's all every quarterback is it? Fifty eight percent or better,
and fifty eight percent is freaking terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
He's at forty eight. Don't you do? You agaries me
on the on the prediction. I don't think they're going
to beat them to that level. They will not lose
to the Colts.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
The open six and a half points is where it
is right now.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
It is a huge swing game. I mean to me,
it ends the division if you win, Yeah, and it
doors wide open if you lose. It is a humongous game. Basically,
the halfway point in the season, your eighth game, you're
six and two, you have the season series sweep. They
fall to four and four, and I know they they've
won their last two games.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
They stink the team as they've beaten.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
The way they're playing. We talked about all these other
quarterback situation. We mentioned Carolina, We've mentioned Cleveland. Indy is
not playing to win by playing Anthony Richardson. They're playing
to make him better, or to get more information on him,
or to give him more experience. Everybody in that building
and everybody outside of that building knows, as awful as

(01:44:22):
this sounds, they're way better right now if Joe Flacco
is playing quarterback. Yes, but there's no reason for them
to do that, so they are going to play Anthony Richards.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
That's a good assessment. I like that. Thankfully we don't
have that problem here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Texs locked out and I know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Like this should be opposite. You guys are asking me stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:44:44):
Bad.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
CJ's second worst game in his career by a yardage standpoint. No,
worst game in his career yardage standpoint.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
I brought it up earlier. This was this is the
same game the Jets game. In this game, same game,
Texans offense could not stop their pass rush. They're off
balance all day. As CJ would say, they never found
a rhythm, and his numbers were almost identical though he
missed part of the end of that game.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Did he pass for more in the Atlanta and Carolina loss? Yes, yes, Okay,
that's why at least realistic.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
In the Jets game that wex is talking about, he
had ninety one yards.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
He finished this game is that's the only difference.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
Four of the five second half drives by the Texans
ended in punts. There's something because we haven't gotten to
this part. And I want to say this if I
could before we leave, Like I don't know what's going
on game management wise with the Miko and the guys
that are paid to assist with how we challenge the
play call when they broke the huddle. I do believe

(01:45:40):
Demko wanted to score. When it's first and ten on
the Green Bay twelve. Something happened and they changed course
midstream and CJ couldn't get on the same page. Just
call time out. That's what you have them for. Get
everybody on the collect the same page. If you're gonna score, score,
if you're gonna kick, kick, and they gave the ball
back to a good player.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Hey, loss, next up come in your way tomorrow at
ten am. That's where Stan will be. Thank you, Stan,
appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
Guys.

Speaker 13 (01:46:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
In case you missed it, because we never told you.
We do have tickets to give away, as per usual
in the final segment of the show, So we'll do
that in about fifteen minutes. The ease tickets, not concert tickets,
football tickets. Got tickets to go see the Cougars over
TDCU Stadium this this Saturday, but the following when they
welcome Kansas State to the stadium. So we'll give those

(01:46:46):
tickets away to those that have been listening to the
program unless you'll know the answer to the question and
otherwise and in case you missed it, these.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Are the things we need to hear about Dan. All right.

Speaker 9 (01:46:56):
So you guys mentioned it a little bit at the
top about Jalen Green. Three your extension for him one
hundred and six million with the player option in the
third year. Breaking it during the show, Albrnchanoon the newest
Rocket to agree to a contract extension five years, one
hundred and eighty five million. According to Bobby Marks, Schams
was on the first one. So they have player options

(01:47:20):
in the final year of these deals. Neither of them
are max deals. And it it tell I mean, here's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
You cannot want to give a guy a MAX deal
in the case of Jalen Green, and he can still say, well,
look at what Kate Cunningham got, and look at what
Evan Mobley got, and look at what Scottie Barnes got.
The three players all around him as the number two
pick in that twenty one draft. It takes him agreeing
to it. Now, the flip side of that is, and

(01:47:51):
this is I'm sure what Rafell and his agent were saying.
You have the potential to get much more money sooner
down the line if you outperform this contract, which sounds
crazy on the day you sign it, but if Jalen
Green has more than one sensational month a year during
this contract, he'll get that money.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
That's what it comes down to. I'm just kind of
surprised the Rockets were able to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
Yeah, if they felt like this was going to hamper
their ability to go get the player that's gonna make
them into a real championship contender, then they probably wouldn't
have done it. Deadline was today during the show to
reach deals, and there have been a bunch of them
around the league, probably to me, several more head scratching
than the ones the Rockets handed out, because in what

(01:48:36):
I've seen, unless I'm missing somebody, the best two players
to sign extensions.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Today they both play for the Rockets.

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
They're definitely gonna, in my opinion, they're both gonna be
better players than they were the year before, which has
been the case for both of them over the course
of their career.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
But it's how much better now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
We're at a point where getting a little bit better
probably doesn't help this team win anything of significance. It
doesn't help them go from eleventh to seventh and help them,
you know, measure up to these other teams in the
league that they need to be significantly better, especially if
these are the two guys right now and at least
in say the first two years of their each of
their deals could only be a two year deal. In

(01:49:13):
Jalen's case, this is this is kind of where you figure,
these are our best two players moving forward. You have
a core of seven if you add read this year
to it, and each of the two first rounders from
each of the three prior years. Well, timing said you
had to either do something with them or ask them
to go out there and kill it for you again

(01:49:33):
without any assurances that you had a big long term
deal waiting for you. Something was going to be waiting
for them, and obviously they have that because they were
still their picks. But I think that does go into it.
Sometimes it's not unheard of to have a player go
out there without an extension like Tyrese Maxi, which gives
the team a little bit more flexibility. I think the

(01:49:54):
Rockets have kept a lot of that, but are also
showing a commitment to two players.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I mean, I know they can win a championship with
these two players.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
I don't have the answer if they can win a
championship if these are your best two players, But obviously
at this point the answer is no.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Well, and I think that the worst kept secret at
the Elephant and the Room whatever is that the Rockets
are looking to make that swing for the fences, for
that superstar, and this keeps them in the running to
do that with the Brooklyn picks becoming the Phoenix picks.
These not being ridiculous contracts, you know, tradable assets, young talent,
all that the mix is there, the perfect storm is

(01:50:32):
there to do it, and this doesn't preclude that even
though they've given the two players who wanted money more money.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Yeah, extension, so the year he has already under contract,
in Green's case, a three year extension with an option
on that third year, So he's essentially signed through the
twenty six to twenty seventh season and he and the
rest of the crew will be right here on Space
City Home Network and Sports Talk seven to ninety Wednesday night,
trying somehow and I'm going to embarrassed myself if we

(01:51:02):
come in Thursday in their own one, but somehow trying
to win the opener at Toyota Center against the Charlotte
horn They're.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Gonna kick the Hornets by about thirty. You heard it
here first. What else do we have?

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:51:13):
So remember last week on in case you missed it,
we brought up former New Jersey Governor Chris Christy calling
Lions head coach Dan Campbell class list because of the
tackle eligible plays when the game was just not in
doubt against the Cowboys. So one of the first times
that the media could ask Campbell about it came earlier
today when he had his press conference on Monday, and

(01:51:35):
his response only the way that Campbell can do it, Chris,
Chris was really.

Speaker 7 (01:51:39):
Mad at you, the Cowboys, sont I'm sure you heard
the comments.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Let's see your reaction to the No, it's the only thing.
The last time somebody called me classes, I was drinking
wine out of a bottle, all right, So but no,
it's all good. I'm not worrying about it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
No way could we have expected anything else? It definitely
would not have he addressed it because he was asked.
He just didn't care when it was said. He certainly
doesn't care now, probably won't ever give it another thought.
We had discussed, we needed answers, we knew we'd get
Dan Dan Campbell's answer. I still am searching for the
other answer. Why is Chris Christy a diehard cowboy fan?

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Where is it from again? Not Texas or Dallas?

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
I don't know. Maybe he saw them in their heyday
as they were beating the giants or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
I don't want to spend any more of my life
trying to figure out why Chris Christie does anything.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Especially going to buffet lines. What else do we have?

Speaker 9 (01:52:44):
All Right, So, there was a little bit of internet
buzz earlier today surrounding Quinn You weres I'm gonna try
to get through this as quickly as possible. He usually
speaks to the media on Monday. He didn't today, and
there was really no explanation for why. And of course
people wondering is there a quarterback controversy?

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
All the things.

Speaker 9 (01:53:02):
Somebody apparently hacked the twenty four to seven Sports Instagram
account and created a graphic that said that yours was
going to set out the rest of the season to
prepare for the NFL Draft. Numerous people I've spoken with
that work for twenty four to seven have said it's fake,
it's not real. We're investigating it, all of those things,
and Youwers himself has even gone on Instagram with a

(01:53:25):
gift of Donald Trump saying fake news.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
Yeah, he's not doing what the fake report said. He's
not going to stop playing football until next year and
prepare for the NFL Draft, where he will not be
a first round pick. That's not happening. He's going to
play football for Texas. Middle of the afternoon Saturday against
Vanderbilt three point fifteen kick?

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Yeah, Kirk?

Speaker 7 (01:53:52):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Who's Kirk? Who didn't you say Kirk Kurbstreet during the game.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
When he was at no I think it was during
his appearance at the uh uh chick tender spot there
on the drag in Austin. He and Ben went over there, Yeah,
and they raised all sorts of heck over there. He
was asked about the two prospects, Beck and yours, and
you know who would you like more? Who do you
think has a better chance of going number one. I
can't remember the exact phrasing of the question. What it

(01:54:15):
was NFL related, and he chose yours And I don't
even care about the competition between those two. I've been
discussing this with a bunch of longhorns for several years,
and certainly Saturday night did not change my mind. To
their point of view, mister Vanilla, not special, perfectly capable
of winning a national title at Texas, perfectly capable of

(01:54:36):
winning a lot of games at Texas. I'm not putting
my NFL franchise in quinn ewrs hands in the first round.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
Like, what have we just got done talking about these
guys that have been paid that shouldn't have been, that
are way more talented than quinn yours at that level
and before so, yeah, I agree with you on that
he's just a guy. As they say, final segment of
a Monday Day of the A Team is straight ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
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I have taken this segment and just flung it out
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on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
Discussing a lot of different things on the Monday after
the Texans Packers game. Plenty of things to still continue
on that front for the rest of the week, and
obviously I look ahead to the Colts game. Texas still
at five and two and the Colts are actually just
a game behind him at four and three. Also an
opportunity in this final segment, as promised to get you
over to TDCU Stadium on November two for Cougars and

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seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven
ninety with the answer, and we will get you that
pair of tickets to Cougar's Wildcats. On the second signature segment,
time on a Monday is good, bad, and the ugly.
We opened with the good, as per usual, and that
was AC's opportunity to tell us what was so good
about Texans twenty four to twenty two loss at Green Bay?

(01:57:38):
What or who wasn't it was so good from that
game where they ended up coming up just a bit short.
You give us a call it seven one three two
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that extremely important and hard to figure answer on what

(01:58:01):
was good from the Texans game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
You've given a lot of hints, probably not twenty eight
of them, but a few. Man, Hey, real.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Quick on the Rockets extensions, just real quick, like so
you got Jalen Green and Alprin Shingoon signing ahead of
that that deadline, that five o'clock Central deadline to get
rookie deals done, rookie extensions, I should say done.

Speaker 6 (01:58:26):
Did you know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
What Alprin Shingoon has in common with Luca the Joker,
Jannie Joel Embiid and Julius Randall.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
What do you have to throw Julius Randall in there
because he qualifies. Uh well, first, I was for the
whole way through it up until Julius Randall. The Minnesota
Timber hint is that it happened last season. Well, Nick
has nothing to do with their place of birth or no,
that's what it sounded like the whole you mentioned until him,

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They both they did they went twenty and ten or
they did something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Just there was just six players last year to average
at least twenty one to nine and five five assists,
not steals.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Now, there's a lot of stuff statistically speaking that Alpia
has done. That's why some of the comparisons to Jokic
obviously at a much lower level currently, and you know
he keeps trying to add parts of his offensive game.
This year's going to be no different. I don't know
what you think after being out there for one of
their home games in person and maybe being around them
a little bit more court side at some point during.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
This lead up to the season.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
I hope he's not lost any strength, but he definitely
looks in better shape, thinner.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
Here here's what I was having to wrestle with as
I watched them play. What was being fielded as a
roster by the Spurs in the preseason. Finally pretty much
the same roster they'll have all year except the tall.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
He was going up against Collins, who sucks, especially as
a defender. But but in a regular season games that
counted last year against Victor Winmbinyama and others, he was
putting moves on him that kind of goes with what
you just said. He does look faster, he looks like

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he's been working out in the offseason with his teammates
and probably Hakim Elijuan at times. You know, all the
guys that Hakim has and I'm talking about big men
that Hakim has tutored, and you're like, I mean, yeah,
just do it like they can. You know, It's it's
hard to do that. It's hard to put those moves
together with the footwork. I think he's the guy, the

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big man that's come closest to doing it. Dwight Howard
had no prayer, Yeah, was too big. The other guys
that he's tutored like this were Wings Lebron Kobe Alpi's
the first big man that you watch the video. Hakim says,
here's the Dropstead here's the fadeaway, here's you know, feel
the defender's body and move off it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
Alpi puts those moves on about as good as anybody
I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (02:01:07):
Yeah, hopefully he will be a little bit better at
the free throw line because he's gonna get to the
free throw line quite a bit with that array of moves.
And he was during the preseason, he was during the
pres and he got there a ton. He also made
twenty of his twenty seven shots from the floor, which
is seventy four percent. I'm not expecting that number, but
would be nice if he kept it at a better

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level than it was last year. Even though he says
he can and will shoot threes, and I'm sure he'll
be a little bit better than his under thirty percent
last year.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
It's now where you want him.

Speaker 4 (02:01:37):
It's just they have so many other things that maybe
from a spacing standpoint when a man is out there,
because probably want him shooting him even less. Even though
I do like the improved stroke, and he did look
better as long as it was from directly.

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
He looks better than Mikale Bridges.

Speaker 4 (02:01:51):
Yeah, that's hilarious. What is happening there is hilarious. Oh
my gosh, can we finally agree that he was overrated?
I've been saying it for a long time. He's not
a superstar. I don't know what they're doing. I mean,
I guess we can say that because I don't really
know who viewed him as that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
A lot of people, why everybody that wanted the Rockets
to trade for him for starters, but then just go
about like when the deal was made, Oh, yes, they
finally get their super What are you talking about the Knicks?

Speaker 10 (02:02:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
I'm like, can you give me a quick run through
of the Knicks roster?

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
And that's it?

Speaker 3 (02:02:24):
He is on their I thought we're gonna ask for
who's of consequence? I have no I get that they
got Karl Anthony Towns. Whoop, Like just.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
From a Bridges standpoint, like how far down the list
is he He's got to be just got your the highest.
They had one in Brunson. As much as people don't
believe a six to two player can be one he is.
They got another one in Towns, even though he's hadn't
been a big enough winner in stat pattern. I think
last year when he dialed it back on the stats,
they actually played and they had Anthony Edwards right, that's

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when they started taking off. But I do think he
understood there's a better way for me to play. He
was putting the numbers for years, but I did nothing
for that. McHale Bridge's impact on the Knicks is going
to be all right. But yeah, this is like one
of the biggest overpaid players for what he's going to
bring to the table. I'm so glud of the Rockets
never traded, especially those picks for him. Oh my gosh,

(02:03:17):
even on the Rockets, like set him up, give me
the core seven and tell me where he fits on
that list of pure talent and where they are currently
in their respective games.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
You want me to give you a real hot take
right now? Sixth I take Cam whitmore over him any day. Well,
his future is super bright. I don't know he's a
better player today.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
I'd make that statement based on that. It's not actually
strictly a hot take.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
I did notice what I've I've talked with some people
behind the scenes about Cam and the first thing they
say to kind of, you know, take me down a
few notches about him. He's a chucker, he shoots. I'm like, yeah,
that's true. And I saw that a lot in the preseason.
He didn't play that much on on when was that Thursday?
For when was whenever their preseason finale was. I think

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it was Thursday. I've slept since then, But yeah, he did.
He didn't exactly pass first, let's put it that way.
But if he makes them I don't care as much.
Fred van Vliet not super active on Twitter. A lot
of his stuff you'll find on ig or other things.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
It was today.

Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
He was today with the reports for each of his
two teammates getting their extensions. He dropped a well deserved
quote sweet on the deal for Jalen Green three money
bags m hm. He dropped a yes, sir, big fellow,
preceded by three money bags for Alprin.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
Shinguz, you want to start a controversy, what if you
put four or five money bags for Alprin because it's
more money.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
It's more money. I could though. Fred is smart. Of course,
he knows what he's doing. He's a diplomat, is what
he is.

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
And I like him and I think he will get
an extension too, or they'll tear up his deal and
his option year coming up next year will go by
the wayside and he'll stay here for longer, but for
less money. That's my guess on that. I so still
think the Rockets will make a trade that's gonna do
it for us. We will be back at it again
tomorrow Row afternoon at three o'clock. Plenty still left on

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the bone to talk about

Speaker 6 (02:05:05):
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