September 16, 2025 • 11 mins
SportsTalk790 Texans insder Aaron Wilson joins Wex and AC to talk all things surrounding the issues with the Texans offense and the line woes heading into Week 3.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Teen lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Team.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Four o'clock halfway point of today's edition of The A
Team halfway to getting you to Astros on deck as
they prepare for Game two of the final series of
the season against the Rangers. Meeting him last night, getting
a half game closer to the Mariners and pushing another
game in between them and the Rangers a little bit
after seven o'clock for first pitch there. And it is
the morning after week two in the NFL to Monday
(00:39):
night games last night to put a close to the week,
the Texans one of a handful of oh and two
football teams after falling last night by one point. And
we welcome in Sports Talk seven to ninety and kp
r C Channel two insider for the Texans, Aaron Wilson, who,
like ourselves here, Cole, myself, you and many others have
had a chance to talk to Domiko twy after last
(01:01):
night's game, CJ and a host of others inside the
Texans locker room. Aaron, we've heard a lot of what
we heard from them yesterday over the three years that
Demiko has been here and over these close games that
have maybe not gone their way, but specific to the offense,
and them saying, well, we need to find a rhythm
when we need to do this, and I don't know
how much more rhythm you're gonna find than what they
(01:21):
did to bolt out of the gates. And even though
they only got a field low, two drives, two scores
for a team that struggled so much and then they
fell into the now, we can't do anything offensively. What
do you think happened to start the game so well
and then almost immediately fall back into well, if we
get to third down, you know a punt's coming.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The adjustments. Really that's the devils of the details. And
you look at what a better in defensive coach like
Todd Bowles can do. I think that's that's a big one.
You look at how people changed their scheme. They see
what you're going to run, and then you know it's
it's strategy and it's really the way football should be.
(02:04):
And the Texans this is not something they excel at.
This is something that a lot of their opponents. They've
run into two playoffs caliber teams that they just weren't
as good as I don't think they were a small
coach as they've got to point now and where this
is kind of what's expected from the Texans. They're not
going to be even considered a good team anymore or
a solid team if they don't start beating some good teams.
(02:26):
And that is not being beating the Jacksonville Jaguars, I
mean the beating teams like the Rams of the Buccaneerson.
I think you've got to be very realistic about what
the Texans are. They're the lowest scoring team in the NFL.
They are a winless team. They are the only team
in the NFL that does not have a red zone touchdown.
I think you know, they've got to take a long,
(02:48):
hard look in the mirror. They're going to be honest
with themselves. Then it's not good enough, and I don't
I mean, if the only hope is that the offensive
line starts to gel or having Christian Kurt back that
all of a sudden, maybe that takes a little bit
of pressure off of Neco Collins, but I just don't
know if that's quite enough. I think they need do
(03:09):
very seriously considered the trade market when it comes to
the offensive line. I think they still need more help
at tight end because Kate Stover had surgery. We don't
know when he'll be back. At some point later in
the season. Is going to be one hundred percent you
can't tell.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You mentioned the trade market with regards to the offensive line.
Immediately my ears perk up because I like the sound
of that. I was screaming at the top of my
lungs all off season to address the offensive line more
than just kind of patchwork, and I think they did
with one of their draft picks. But that's what It's
almost like a franchise quarterback who is going to have
(03:46):
an offensive lineman stashed or willing to part ways with
him in order to improve the Texans. And how would
that trade even come about with what the Texans would
have to end up offering. I'm assuming draft picks.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right draft picks or a good defensive player is typically
the only way you can do that. And in my opinion, yeah,
it's very difficult to offs a good player for player trades.
I don't think anybody necessarily wants to help you, but
you know, if you've got something an asset they're interested in,
and you know, where's the depth though, I mean, even
when we talk about the good positions, it's not like
(04:21):
they have three of them. I mean, I look at
linebacker a little bit. I feel like EJ. Speed, you know,
is a good player, but I mean, how much are
you metting in return for him? This is a kind
of a backup you like, a good swing tackle, that
kind of thing. I mean, I kind of would like
to see Tren Brown when Trent I know that he's
not really quite there yet from a conditioning standpoint coming
(04:43):
off to the Teller Attendon, but maybe late in the season,
we do want to see.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Him something that will obviously if they can again why
they waited till the season, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Stroud's definitely going to be the talking point no matter
what's going on, good bat or otherwise, and he certainly
is after two games so far this season. Same thing
I said about the offense in general. He came out
cooking five of seven in the first quarter, one hundred
and five yards, the ten points, the two scoring drives
to open up the game, and a pass that Nico
Collins hauls in for a touchdown, and then he basically
(05:17):
he looked terrible. Eight of seventeen over the final three quarters.
He threw for fewer yards in the final forty five
minutes than he did in the first fifteen. He's lucky
that the Vonte David dropped the interception he threw right
to him, and he was missing open targets. What do
you see in CJ in the very beginning of year three.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I feel like there's some regression from all the hits
he's taking. We've seen this story before, right you see
it happen with the car brand, and we seem to
have a lot of people that have been hit too often,
and eventually what happens is they get gunshot and they
start expecting the hit where they think they have to
bail out of plays because they're going to get hit
(05:59):
and throw the ball too soon, or they scrambled too much,
or they overthink it, and you know, instead of just
delivering the past, he's trying to place it. And what
you're seeing is these wild incompletions. I mean, what he
did there that looks like a guy that's kind of
emotional to me in you know, these plays, and he's
a better quarterback than that, and I think to say
(06:22):
anything else would be to baby him. And you know,
I have too much respect for him to do that.
I think he's someone that you have to really, you know,
treat like he's a serious quarterback. And you know that's
how I take him, know that, you know, you maybe
never let him see a sweat as a press compt
that kind of thing. But my understanding, Yeah, he's he's
concerned about the offense, upset about the performances, and there's
(06:47):
a frustration factor because he's a human being, and I
think he's sincerely trying very very hard. If anything, perhaps
pressing a little bit to me, he's going to relax.
He's got to have better support around him and the
blitz protection, I mean, Dargable, that's not it. I think
(07:09):
they need much better running back play all around. And
they try to adjust by having Damie Pearce to be
a healthy scratch reported before the game and British person
was up for special teams. But that's not the answer
to help the offense. I'm just not sure if they
have enough at the running back position, and we don't
expect to reinforce them coming from Joe Mixon anytime soon,
(07:31):
if ever. So this is the offense and how they
kind of talk themselves into thinking this would work. I
don't know. I mean, because they know personnel better than
we do. I mean, you can talk yourself in anything,
but it just doesn't eat it on paper sound very good.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, the offensive line is it's just made me want to,
you know, put my head through a brick wall for
a long time now. And I guess, I guess what
is the most frustrating is Casario does, you know, make
good picks in other areas on both sides of the ball,
but particularly on the defensive side of the ball and
in late rounds, but not having I guess a little
(08:11):
bit more urgency, like you know, taking both receivers from
Iowa State like that right there. I don't know what
went into all those decisions, but I just I guess
I felt like there would be more of a sense
of urgency with regards to the offensive line in the draft,
even having picked you know, an nursery.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's just a very very confusing situation because you know,
he's a smart guy and he's seeing good offensive lineman before,
Like when he was with the Patriots. They had guys,
They had Sebastian Bulmer, they had lots of guys. They
just this doesn't look.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Like that, is there an opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't know what they can do about it at
this point. I mean, I think her story will be
a good lineman that that's my opinion, that's many people's opinion.
But I'm not seeing that sort of hope for their
other second round picks like Fisher or Juice Scrugs. And
their actions don't just speak volumes. They yell at you.
We don't want to play these guys under any circumstances.
So if that's what you're saying in your actions, you
(09:15):
don't want to play them, you'd got to have a
big line shuffle rather than serve Juice Scrugs. You used
to be a starter for you. I think it says
a lot. It's really saying it's an indictment of these
draft picks. It's not their fault. They didn't ask to
be picked in the second round. So he picks the players.
So it's got to get better. And at some point, Yeah,
there's got to be some accountability for it. You know,
(09:37):
you've got to look at, Okay, well, what's our process?
What are we doing with that evaluation? As opposed to
how great they have been at drafting and developing corners
and safeties and the defensive end position or free agents
like you know Hunter, so you know, in fairness they'd
(09:57):
had a lot of hits or getting something out of
Joan Dixon really for not very much. So there's been
a lot of personnel successes, but it is hard to
say the offensive line that that's a success. And in retrospect, yeah,
hindsight being twenty twenty, wouldn't you rather have larry My
Tunsall to go with some of these new players instead
of doing the trade, regardless of the fact that he
(10:18):
wanted a new contract and he had a lot of penalties.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Even after two weeks are now, Yeah, even after two
weeks and the two offensive line performances, I'm not going
to say yes to that. I would actually still say no.
It's less about moving on from Tunsil and more about well,
why didn't you get good players? Losing Tunsel doesn't prevent
you from adding talent, and it doesn't have anything to
(10:41):
do with who you missed out on the draft. It
has to do with saying, oh, this guy got benched
in Minnesota, let's trade for him. Well, this guy doesn't
isn't wanted in Minnesota, or Jacksonville. Well let's go sign him.
All this guy's played out the strings, the worst offensive
lineman on his team for the last five years. Well
let's sign him. And they're all starting for the Houston Texans.
We could go on and on and on about the
(11:02):
same problem this team has had for a long long time.
We'll catch another visit with you and maybe focus on
a different area of the team. I'll be back out
on the practice field with the team tomorrow, so we'll
see you out there as well. Aaron, always appreciate the
time here with us, the reporting and everything you got
going on. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Thanks, guys, so good to talk to you. I appreciate
you guys. Keep up the great work. The A team
is a must listen. Anybody out there is listening. Make
sure you keep a lock with these guys.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The ad on Sports Talk seven ninety
Teen lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Team.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Four o'clock halfway point of today's edition of The A
Team halfway to getting you to Astros on deck as
they prepare for Game two of the final series of
the season against the Rangers. Meeting him last night, getting
a half game closer to the Mariners and pushing another
game in between them and the Rangers a little bit
after seven o'clock for first pitch there. And it is
the morning after week two in the NFL to Monday
(00:39):
night games last night to put a close to the week,
the Texans one of a handful of oh and two
football teams after falling last night by one point. And
we welcome in Sports Talk seven to ninety and kp
r C Channel two insider for the Texans, Aaron Wilson, who,
like ourselves here, Cole, myself, you and many others have
had a chance to talk to Domiko twy after last
(01:01):
night's game, CJ and a host of others inside the
Texans locker room. Aaron, we've heard a lot of what
we heard from them yesterday over the three years that
Demiko has been here and over these close games that
have maybe not gone their way, but specific to the offense,
and them saying, well, we need to find a rhythm
when we need to do this, and I don't know
how much more rhythm you're gonna find than what they
(01:21):
did to bolt out of the gates. And even though
they only got a field low, two drives, two scores
for a team that struggled so much and then they
fell into the now, we can't do anything offensively. What
do you think happened to start the game so well
and then almost immediately fall back into well, if we
get to third down, you know a punt's coming.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The adjustments. Really that's the devils of the details. And
you look at what a better in defensive coach like
Todd Bowles can do. I think that's that's a big one.
You look at how people changed their scheme. They see
what you're going to run, and then you know it's
it's strategy and it's really the way football should be.
(02:04):
And the Texans this is not something they excel at.
This is something that a lot of their opponents. They've
run into two playoffs caliber teams that they just weren't
as good as I don't think they were a small
coach as they've got to point now and where this
is kind of what's expected from the Texans. They're not
going to be even considered a good team anymore or
a solid team if they don't start beating some good teams.
(02:26):
And that is not being beating the Jacksonville Jaguars, I
mean the beating teams like the Rams of the Buccaneerson.
I think you've got to be very realistic about what
the Texans are. They're the lowest scoring team in the NFL.
They are a winless team. They are the only team
in the NFL that does not have a red zone touchdown.
I think you know, they've got to take a long,
(02:48):
hard look in the mirror. They're going to be honest
with themselves. Then it's not good enough, and I don't
I mean, if the only hope is that the offensive
line starts to gel or having Christian Kurt back that
all of a sudden, maybe that takes a little bit
of pressure off of Neco Collins, but I just don't
know if that's quite enough. I think they need do
(03:09):
very seriously considered the trade market when it comes to
the offensive line. I think they still need more help
at tight end because Kate Stover had surgery. We don't
know when he'll be back. At some point later in
the season. Is going to be one hundred percent you
can't tell.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You mentioned the trade market with regards to the offensive line.
Immediately my ears perk up because I like the sound
of that. I was screaming at the top of my
lungs all off season to address the offensive line more
than just kind of patchwork, and I think they did
with one of their draft picks. But that's what It's
almost like a franchise quarterback who is going to have
(03:46):
an offensive lineman stashed or willing to part ways with
him in order to improve the Texans. And how would
that trade even come about with what the Texans would
have to end up offering. I'm assuming draft picks.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right draft picks or a good defensive player is typically
the only way you can do that. And in my opinion, yeah,
it's very difficult to offs a good player for player trades.
I don't think anybody necessarily wants to help you, but
you know, if you've got something an asset they're interested in,
and you know, where's the depth though, I mean, even
when we talk about the good positions, it's not like
(04:21):
they have three of them. I mean, I look at
linebacker a little bit. I feel like EJ. Speed, you know,
is a good player, but I mean, how much are
you metting in return for him? This is a kind
of a backup you like, a good swing tackle, that
kind of thing. I mean, I kind of would like
to see Tren Brown when Trent I know that he's
not really quite there yet from a conditioning standpoint coming
(04:43):
off to the Teller Attendon, but maybe late in the season,
we do want to see.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Him something that will obviously if they can again why
they waited till the season, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Stroud's definitely going to be the talking point no matter
what's going on, good bat or otherwise, and he certainly
is after two games so far this season. Same thing
I said about the offense in general. He came out
cooking five of seven in the first quarter, one hundred
and five yards, the ten points, the two scoring drives
to open up the game, and a pass that Nico
Collins hauls in for a touchdown, and then he basically
(05:17):
he looked terrible. Eight of seventeen over the final three quarters.
He threw for fewer yards in the final forty five
minutes than he did in the first fifteen. He's lucky
that the Vonte David dropped the interception he threw right
to him, and he was missing open targets. What do
you see in CJ in the very beginning of year three.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I feel like there's some regression from all the hits
he's taking. We've seen this story before, right you see
it happen with the car brand, and we seem to
have a lot of people that have been hit too often,
and eventually what happens is they get gunshot and they
start expecting the hit where they think they have to
bail out of plays because they're going to get hit
(05:59):
and throw the ball too soon, or they scrambled too much,
or they overthink it, and you know, instead of just
delivering the past, he's trying to place it. And what
you're seeing is these wild incompletions. I mean, what he
did there that looks like a guy that's kind of
emotional to me in you know, these plays, and he's
a better quarterback than that, and I think to say
(06:22):
anything else would be to baby him. And you know,
I have too much respect for him to do that.
I think he's someone that you have to really, you know,
treat like he's a serious quarterback. And you know that's
how I take him, know that, you know, you maybe
never let him see a sweat as a press compt
that kind of thing. But my understanding, Yeah, he's he's
concerned about the offense, upset about the performances, and there's
(06:47):
a frustration factor because he's a human being, and I
think he's sincerely trying very very hard. If anything, perhaps
pressing a little bit to me, he's going to relax.
He's got to have better support around him and the
blitz protection, I mean, Dargable, that's not it. I think
(07:09):
they need much better running back play all around. And
they try to adjust by having Damie Pearce to be
a healthy scratch reported before the game and British person
was up for special teams. But that's not the answer
to help the offense. I'm just not sure if they
have enough at the running back position, and we don't
expect to reinforce them coming from Joe Mixon anytime soon,
(07:31):
if ever. So this is the offense and how they
kind of talk themselves into thinking this would work. I
don't know. I mean, because they know personnel better than
we do. I mean, you can talk yourself in anything,
but it just doesn't eat it on paper sound very good.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, the offensive line is it's just made me want to,
you know, put my head through a brick wall for
a long time now. And I guess, I guess what
is the most frustrating is Casario does, you know, make
good picks in other areas on both sides of the ball,
but particularly on the defensive side of the ball and
in late rounds, but not having I guess a little
(08:11):
bit more urgency, like you know, taking both receivers from
Iowa State like that right there. I don't know what
went into all those decisions, but I just I guess
I felt like there would be more of a sense
of urgency with regards to the offensive line in the draft,
even having picked you know, an nursery.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's just a very very confusing situation because you know,
he's a smart guy and he's seeing good offensive lineman before,
Like when he was with the Patriots. They had guys,
They had Sebastian Bulmer, they had lots of guys. They
just this doesn't look.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Like that, is there an opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't know what they can do about it at
this point. I mean, I think her story will be
a good lineman that that's my opinion, that's many people's opinion.
But I'm not seeing that sort of hope for their
other second round picks like Fisher or Juice Scrugs. And
their actions don't just speak volumes. They yell at you.
We don't want to play these guys under any circumstances.
So if that's what you're saying in your actions, you
(09:15):
don't want to play them, you'd got to have a
big line shuffle rather than serve Juice Scrugs. You used
to be a starter for you. I think it says
a lot. It's really saying it's an indictment of these
draft picks. It's not their fault. They didn't ask to
be picked in the second round. So he picks the players.
So it's got to get better. And at some point, Yeah,
there's got to be some accountability for it. You know,
(09:37):
you've got to look at, Okay, well, what's our process?
What are we doing with that evaluation? As opposed to
how great they have been at drafting and developing corners
and safeties and the defensive end position or free agents
like you know Hunter, so you know, in fairness they'd
(09:57):
had a lot of hits or getting something out of
Joan Dixon really for not very much. So there's been
a lot of personnel successes, but it is hard to
say the offensive line that that's a success. And in retrospect, yeah,
hindsight being twenty twenty, wouldn't you rather have larry My
Tunsall to go with some of these new players instead
of doing the trade, regardless of the fact that he
(10:18):
wanted a new contract and he had a lot of penalties.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Even after two weeks are now, Yeah, even after two
weeks and the two offensive line performances, I'm not going
to say yes to that. I would actually still say no.
It's less about moving on from Tunsil and more about well,
why didn't you get good players? Losing Tunsel doesn't prevent
you from adding talent, and it doesn't have anything to
(10:41):
do with who you missed out on the draft. It
has to do with saying, oh, this guy got benched
in Minnesota, let's trade for him. Well, this guy doesn't
isn't wanted in Minnesota, or Jacksonville. Well let's go sign him.
All this guy's played out the strings, the worst offensive
lineman on his team for the last five years. Well
let's sign him. And they're all starting for the Houston Texans.
We could go on and on and on about the
(11:02):
same problem this team has had for a long long time.
We'll catch another visit with you and maybe focus on
a different area of the team. I'll be back out
on the practice field with the team tomorrow, so we'll
see you out there as well. Aaron, always appreciate the
time here with us, the reporting and everything you got
going on. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Thanks, guys, so good to talk to you. I appreciate
you guys. Keep up the great work. The A team
is a must listen. Anybody out there is listening. Make
sure you keep a lock with these guys.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
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