Texans slay Chiefs in KC, CFB/CFP reaction!

Monday on the The A-Team, Wex and Clanton react to the Texans' huge win over the Chiefs, examine the Texans' new playoff path, Chris Gordy joins the show to discuss the college football playoff slate, and much more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wonder as we start another week on a victory Monday,
if for she Rice is currently in an ice bath
right now as we speak. Welcome into a Monday edition
of the program. It's only been a few hours since
the Houston Texans defense reigned napalm up and down the

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field in Kansas City at Arrowhead Stadium. That was a
sensational defensive effort the likes of which I don't know
if we're going to see until next week. It's been
like that, and it continues to be like that for
a Houston Texans team. That is. I don't want to
say they're defying the odds, because when you play defense

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like this, you should expect to win. But I guess
in light of some of their shortcomings offensively, including in
last night's game, you have to just kind of sit
back and marvel after twenty to ten over the Chiefs
in Arrowhead State, which, by the way, it doesn't end
the Chiefs playoff chances. Somehow they're mathematically alive. But to

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be the team that went in their WEX and to
end a decade long run essentially kind of like what
the Astros were doing. We've compared these two organizations for
a long time. You ended their division championship reign, which
actually still means something in the NFL. That's pretty impressive,
especially when you consider what was on the line, not

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only for the Texans but especially for the Chiefs last night.
If they lose this game, these things happen. And the
Texans were like, yeah, we're gonna go up there and
we're going to make sure you lose that game.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, if they lose any games, that's really what they
were looking at. I could have been this one, could
have been one. In a couple of weeks. They have
some division games remaining, they have not fared well in that.
Texans don't care about any of that stuff. This was
a game important to them as much as it was
important to the other team, maybe because of their history rivalry,
which maybe we can now talk about because the Texans

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actually have a win over them in their building.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, I do think so.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I do think there were some demons that were exercised
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Granted, you took a part a team that hasn't won
even half their games. Now because you beat them and
now they're six and seven, they clearly aren't the team
they've been. That's why this was where they are with
four games to go in the season, or last night
five games to go in the season. I mean at
six and seven, you're usually not out of the division
race unless somebody in your division has eleven wins already.
And that's what the Chiefs have been doing to the

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teams in their division. Last year, they won fifteen times
with Pat Mahomes at quarterback. This year they've lost seven
times with Pat Mahomes at quarterback. They've never done that before,
the most losses they've ever had in a regular season
with him under center or in the shotgun. And it's
partially because of what the Texans did to them. The
individual numbers for Mahomes, as some people pointed out, that

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weren't a part of the broadcast last night because you
never would have heard it there. There's the worst night
of his NFL career, the worst performance far he's ever
had in just about every single statistical category.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Growing standpoint.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Obviously, he did exactly what I think the Texans thought
he would do. I think what we thought he would do.
Everybody we talked to thought he would do. He extended
plays like nobody else. He proved he is the best
scrambler in the NFL again last night. He was the
only player on the ground they could not stop. They
had no running game to speak of except for him,

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and then they also had no passing game to speak of.
Partially because of him. Texans upfront were awesome. They were
able to manage through the loss of Tim Settle because
Tommy TOJII was just an absolute beast in last night's game,
and each of the reserves performed as they have been
in their role, whether it's Barnett or Horton or Autry.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Up front, they were just awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
And what I thought would be good news when I
was inside the stadium on Friday turned out to be
very good news last night.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ninety minutes before kickoff.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Kamari Lasser active and starting tonight's game for the Houston Texans.
The news that we got ninety minutes before kickoff. He
never came off the field. He took every single snap,
He had an inning, he had a great blitz pick up,
he had to get great pass breakup in the end
zone on what otherwise would have been a long touchdown pass.
That was the injury of greatest concern overcoming that, especially

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when people were trying to say, well, Traymond Smith's the backup,
so he'll likely be in there. I'm like, no, please,
Raymond Smith played zero plays last night and that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No sense to Traymon Smith as a corner. We had
talked about Lassiter and it was kind of like if
he I guess, and then you saw him at the
stadium that Friday and you felt good, but it's like, Okay,
what are you getting because if you're limited and look
this happened to trying to blank on their second best
or yeah, I guess. Basically, if it's not Chris Jones,

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he's their best defensive player. Who was Trement McDuff Trey
McDuffie was taken out of the game early. He probably
could have come back and tried to give it a go,
But would it have been that kind of situation. That's
what I was worried we were gonna have with Kamari
Laster and maybe he was really hurting and was just
cut it out. But whatever he did dancing after the game,
whatever he did, yes, as he's gonna come back on Wednesday. Uh,

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he looked fine to me, And it wasn't just oh,
he's out there and he doesn't look bad. He's not
hurting the team. No, he's making key plays plural. As
you said, that end zone play that might be the
most underrated defensive play on a night of like fifty.
You had to you if you were to sit here
and try and rank the different plays that defense made

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last night. First of all, the list would be at
least twenty. I mean, everybody, there's there's lots of snaps
obviously in a game, but okay, I can pinpoint that
this was an actual play during the game where the
defense made a sensational play. They'd probably be ten to
twenty of them. That's how good it was.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Hopefully everybody enjoyed it and is expecting to enjoy a
lot more. Four games remaining for the Texans. As we
wake up this morning, the Texans are inside the AFC
playoff picture at eight and five. The Colts are outside
because of the tiebreaker having lost to the Texans. They
obviously had a much bigger loss in their game yesterday,
in their loss to the Jaguars, which we'll get into.

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Texans could wake up tomorrow morning in the sixth spot
in the AFC playoff picture, with the Chargers playing the
Eagles tonight, a team they would also pass via tiebreaker. Currently,
should they fall down to eight and five, they will
play the Chargers later this year after they have back
to back home games. Three of the final games four
games remaining for the Texans are at NRG Stadium. Last

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game of the year against the Colts, the next two
games against the Cardinals and Raiders, who have lost almost
as much as any other teams in the NFL and
continue to do so over the weekend. They seem pretty
hard to lose too, even though I think the Cardinals
are a competitive team when they're not playing the Rams.
The Raiders do not seem like a competitive team, even
though they covered yesterday by kicking a last second field

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goal to lose by a smaller number than and I
shouldn't say last second field goal by kicking a field
goal on the last play of the game so they
could lose by less. Got a lot of people who
like to wager on that one, for sure, But we'll
get into all those things obviously. It was a weekend
that I think they thought would go a little bit
differently on the hardwood for the Houston Rockets, finishing out

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the last of the two games of five games and
seven nights. It was fine on Friday in Houston. It
was less so on Saturday in Dallas. The Mavericks aren't
a good team with Anthony Davis, but they're certainly a
different team with Anthony Davis. Not to mention, the Rockets
had two of their three centers, the two rotation centers
unavailable to them, along with three other rotation players in

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Easton Doriy and Finney Smith and Fred Van Vliet. The
MAVs countered with no Kyrie Irving and no Daniel Gafford.
So there are plenty of players missing, but not one
of the finest moments so far in the first twenty
one games of the season for the Houston Rockets. We
will have baseball conversation throughout the week because the GM
Meetings now Winter Meetings, well they've taken place, the GM

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meetings previously, now the Winter Meetings in Orlando taking place,
and the opportunity for the Brown, Joe Spatta and others
to help make the twenty twenty six Houston Astros playoff
team once again.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, how long until Justin Verlander is officially a Houston
Astro again? Is that gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't think Justin Verlander's calendar is at all related
to the winter meetings or the GM meetings or even
owners meetings they are related to.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Has Jim seen my text? You know what? And that's
whenever he gets around to it. But as long as
he's there for spring training, it.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Might be nice to know what the figure is so
they can operate below the CBT as they would like
to and have that information. But yeah, I mean we
talk about it almost like it's a given, because I
think we think it's a given. I do think he
along with their two other additions Nate Pearson and Ryan Weiss,
I think one other pitcher that will be recognizable also

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will join the starting rotation or join the fight for
spots in the starting rotation. And for all we know,
some of the players as of right now we expect
to see at FanFest coming up in January may in
fact be on another team.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, it's a wild time of transition in the Houston
Astros organization. For like the umpteenth offseason in a row,
it feels like ever since the domino started falling, it's
always kind of that way, but you always felt like
you were also a championship contender. Maybe this is the
first offseason where you don't necessarily think that because of

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what happened the year prior.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Gonna be the first in a while for that thought.
And I do think that's the one we will have. Obviously,
we want to dive into in full. Your Houston Texans
off of their twenty to ten win last night. Woody
Mark's doing it again at the end of the game,
c J Stroud making enough plays. Definitely things to need
to do a lot better on the offensive side, and
Steve Spagnolo gets creative with his pressures and blitz packages.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
He did and they won a lot of them last night.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
But the Texans did make the kind of plays that
they had not always been making throughout the year. They
still put the ball in the end zone twice. They
managed to succeed in the red zone a little bit.
They failed in the red zone to open the game
for just an incredible reason once again. But like I said,
there are so many good things to discuss. It's why
they're eight and five, it's why they have a five
game winning streak, it's why they've won eight out of ten,

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and it's why they're putting themselves in the same boat
as the other six AFC playoff teams. I think they're
all in the same boat. This is not Mahomes, chiefs Lamars, Ravens,
Allen's Bills and then the rest of the playoff teams.
That's what it's been like since CJ. Stroud and Demiko
Ryans and Will Anderson Junior have been Texans. There were
three teams clearly cut above the rest. The Texans were

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also a division champion, so tried to be in that
category and ultimately they fit in that group right until
they played them. They were in the final four the
last two years with those three quarterbacks and their respective teams.
Baltimore and Kansas City are on the outside looking in.
And as I mentioned a few people before the show today,
every time the Bills take the field this year, they

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are screaming as loudly as they can. We are beatable,
but sometimes teams like the Bengals don't take advantage of that.
The Texans did. But absolutely wide open in the AFC.
If you asked me after watching the first fourteen weeks
of NFL play, very excited about the final four, the
next two of which we'll have the Texas at home,
so we'll jump in on those things.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Very specific to them.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Demiko Ryan's actually meeting with the media as we speak
as they look ahead to their next game, which is
against the Arizona Cardinals. So bring you some of his
thoughts from last night, some CJ's thoughts from last night,
and around the rest of the Texans locker room, also
from the Chiefs, Pat Mahomes, Andy Reid, and a few
others speaking.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
A few others not speaking to.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
The media after the game from the Kansas City side,
and I bet you can imagine who that will be.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
But we'll get to all those things. Welcome back from
your weekend here on the A Team. It is the
A Team Sports Talk seven to ninety Monday edition of
the program. Wexac Josh Jordan with you, just basking in
the glow of that performance last night. I know the
offense was out on the field and they actually had

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to make some plays, but the defense is just so
I just locked in on it. By the way, I'm
laser focused in on it, much like Demiko Ryan's just said,
they are laser focused on the postseason and the rest
of this regular seas.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
You're absolutely not laser focused on the postseason. He's laser
focused on what's in front of him.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's the postseason. That's the postseason.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
If not clinched the postseason birth, but they will if
they went out. Well, he's not focused on winning out.
They don't have four games on Sunday. They have one
game on Sundays after that, right, but he didn't want
to after that. He doesn't care about those games. He does,
He's just lying. He's laser focused. I'm actually listening to
him say that. That's why I know exactly are you doing.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
The thing you do where? Oh my gosh, there it is.
I wish we were on camera already. Oh my gosh,
this guy. See Josh doesn't know about this yet. We
have to kind of get him hip to the game here.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
To see how the week goes, to see if maybe
they can get Nick Chubb back dealing with his rib injury.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Has anybody asked a dumb question? Yet? Don't answer that.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
He confirmed the Brevin Jordan report. They do have him
back for another year. They have extended or signed him
to a contract moving forward, even though he's missed all
of this year and nearly all of the year prior.
They like what he brings to the table.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, Wex does this thing where he listens to a
press conference, watches a press conference, hosts a show. Sometimes
we'll listen to another press conference in a different year.
Right now, he's got his IFB in for this show
in his left ear. I head said, it's an IFB,
and then he's got it's for the purposes of this conversation.
It's an IFB, just like you've got a Is that
an air airpot? Wow, that's gonna be your other IFB,

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though for the purposes of this conversation. That's in his right.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I have one bud in each ear with two different
things going into it. One of them is you and
me and Josh if he speaks, not a caller if
they do, and audio we might play if we do that.
And the other is both the media and to me
go at their zoom press conference.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, I want to I want to just get this
out of the way because I think it's factual, and
I honestly I know there's four games left. There is nothing,
in my opinion, that can happen in those four games
that'll change this other than the fact that they have to,
you know, maybe meet certain thresholds number wise or don't.
In this case, this defense. This Houston Texans defense twenty

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twenty five defensive unit is the best defensive unit in
the history of the franchise. It's not really debatable. Maybe
it was a few weeks ago. I tried to tell
you it wasn't. I double, I know, but I don't.
I don't think people.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I know the season's not over, but what they put
on tape and what they'd done in their games played.
And you could have asked me this after like seven games,
definitely eight, nine, ten, and now through thirteen games.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
But you know what I mean by the statistical there's
four more games now they play two I mean, absolute
dreadful teams and then they have the Chargers and who
am I missing the.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Last game against Riley Leonard and the cole Maybe if
Riley's healthy, he's hurt too. By the way, Yeah, Shansteichen
today when he met with the media, did confirm that
when they get the final diagnosis and they can, they're
scheduling achilles surgery for Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's brutal, but I you know, that's the Texans have
dealt with injuries this year. The Texans had a horrible
injury right around this time last year. That they're still
dealing with. Tank Dell hasn't played since last December, just
in case you need a reminder, and his leg injury
way more gruesome than anything Daniel Jones is dealing with.
I'm not comparing and contrasting. I'm just saying this is

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this is the sport they play, so this happens. JJ
Watt yesterday, I'm gonna read aloud from his tweet, Texans
defense is just phenomenal. The talent, the attitude, the violence,
Matt Burke leading one hell of a unit, and Demico
putting on an incredible coaching performance after an zero to
three start and losing his starting quarterback for three games

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mid season. I bring that up for a couple of reasons. One,
he's obviously still Texan through and through. Two, he played
on the prior to this year best Texans defense ever,
and that kind of leads to number three. I think
the reason I need or feel the need to say
this is because there is no doubt, a ton of
Texans fans that have been there since day one, that

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have never wavered, that have never you know what, if
you want to, you know, jump off the proverbial bandwagon,
because things are going on in the organization I did that.
I was like, oh, Jack Easterby's running this thing. Yeah,
I'm out until they start running themselves like an actual organization. Again,
I have no no time for this team, which is
kind of awkward considering what I do for a living.
But that's that's just me. I'm being honest. But I

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think there are people out there that are like, yeah,
this defense is really good. There's no way they're going
to be like the twenty eleven defense. For example, JJ's
rookie year, he had a pick six in the postseason game,
and that was against the Red Rifle. That was against
just what they've just done to Josh Allen for the

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second consecutive year. By the way, you know, you were
just talking in the first segment about how they just
made Patrick Mahomes play his worst statistical game by far
in his career. They did that to Josh Allen last year,
and then they kind of did it again this year
to him, and then they did it to Patrick Mahomes
last night, and they've done it basically every week no
matter who lines up. I know they played the Ravens

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without Lamar Jackson. I think they would have done it
to him. I really think this defense is not only
that much better than last season's, which was really good,
I think it's the best defense in the history of
this franchise. With four games to go against honestly four
teams that they can handle.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
They will face Jacoby Brissett, they will face Gino Smith,
Kenny Pickett, Man Baby, they will face presumably Justin Herbert
one handed Justin Herbert, and then I don't know who
the Colts will end up starting in the final game
of the season, when their playoff hopes are already over.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
At that point. That's who's left on their schedule.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
From a quarterback standpoint, the offenses that go along with
them are clearly a little bit related to their quarterback play.
So it'll look nice when people say, oh my god,
you're playing the Colts offense. Their numbers are awesome this year. Well,
that's not really going to be a factor when they
had to change quarterbacks. You know, the Texans got their
opponents passer rating number down to sixty nine point eight

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on the season. Nobody else in the league is under
seventy seven, a huge chunk of teams in the next
nine spots. Basically that's the same distance between the Texans
and everybody else in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
They're number one at.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Points per game allowed, They're number one and yards per
game allowed. They're in the top five pretty much across
the board sacks per pass attempt, interception rate, they lead
the AFC in takeaways, and the plus minus. They've just
been incredible. They're the only defense in the NFL with
more interceptions than passing touchdowns allowed. The only area where
this defense still isn't unbelievable elite greatest ever, let alone

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for this team, for most franchises. They still aren't awesome
in the red zone, and they still aren't awesome in
gold gost situation. It's the only area where the twenty
eleven Texans rate significantly better than them, but I still
wouldn't give them even close to the NOD. The Texans
in twenty eleven were in the top ten in both
of those two categories, in the red zone and in
gold to gost situations. The Texans red zone numbers defensively

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have improved a lot over the last couple of weeks,
and they're now just outside the top half of the league.
They're seventeenth in the league in a red zone defense.
You probably heard this last night if you had the
sound on and we're torturing yourselves while watching it on TV.
The Texans are not very good in gold to gost situations.
They're the worst of the NFL defensively thirty first, one

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hundred percent. If your goal to go against the Texans,
you win every single time that particular series. That is
not the sign of an elite, best defense of all
time in your franchise's history. But they're so good at
everything else it barely matters because they're never there. They're
never in goal to go situations because they can't drive

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down the field against you, they can't throw the ball
against you. This was the tenth consecutive game the Texans
have allowed less than two hundred yards past insane.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And again I've said it since last season. I don't
think this Chief's offense is the same. Travis Kelcey needs
to retire.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's today, three years running, the Chiefs offense hasn't been
the same. They've been in decline for now the twenty
twenty three to four and five.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And this was not about their offensive line, which was
insane that their backup left tackle went down on the
very first snap of the game, and so his backup,
presumably a third stringer, was he never played before. Yeah,
it was his debut. He was awesome last night.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
He's very good and undrafted players shows you how teams
can both scheme and evaluate talent on their offensive line
to whatever they're faced with.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
They make it work.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Kansas City did a lot more than make it work,
and that says a lot against the Texans defense.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I was about to say if they had had their
starting five, I don't think it would have mattered, but
I will say that the Chiefs probably limited the damage.
Considering who they are up against and how that team
Detexans defensive unit was playing and has been playing for weeks.
I just hope they haven't peaked.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, it also has to show you this, and we
got a lot of time to get into this, but
it just can't focus only on sacks. Been trying to
telp as we've had more availability of additional numbers, pressure rate,
and all sorts of time to throw the football. They
sacked Pat Mahomes twice. That's it, just two sacks in

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last night's game. He had forty two dropbacks. Well, he
didn't complete any of his passes and he threw three
of them to your team, two of them that you
earned more than the other. The other was thrown to
his teammate, who then dropped it and flipped it up
in the air, and as he's able to pick it off,
you made plays on You had pass breakups, they had
eight of them. It's not just about the sack number.

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Their pressure weight was as high as it's been all year,
and the Kansas City Chiefs gave up a pressure rate
as high as it's been all year.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
There's so much more to it.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Then, did you have three players who contributed to a
single sack? You had TOJII getting the early sack on
a play that was correctly called by the officials one
of the very few, and you had a couple other
players split a half sack each later in the game.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Those are the only sacks the Texans had. You want
to tell me they didn't have a great game in
pass pro or in pass defense or overall, you can't,
because they did. Even though that sack number isn't eye popping.
Much more to playing great defensive football than only looking
at that. Some teams get in the backfield all the time,
bring quarterbacks down and then on the players where they
don't get pressure, they are screwed because they can't stop anybody,

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because they can't cover, they can't defend. Their linebackers get
to swallowed up and play action pass all sorts of
things that Texans do well in addition to pretty much
everything other than what I just brought up moments ago.
Best of X never disappoints a full weekend's worth of
items there for you. Quite honestly, we deliver one item
in Best of X, maybe two, when the reality is

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there could be fifteen after last night's Texans game and
the rest of what took place this weekend at the
college football final playoff rankings obviously came out this weekend
after the conference championship games.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Best of X might really be a full show's worth
of items, But you're gonna love what's next. People were
arrested for things, so they said on social media.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
History repeats itself type bang, you'll succeed.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Never doubt that you're the one.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Too before no one building you're the best the BX.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Nothing's gonna have a top.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
You know you're the best of the posting ever seen
days you're the best of X, breaking the entire enginet.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
All right, it's that time and typical on Mondays, this
is a little bit juicier than usual, certainly the case
today where we uh check out social media, we find
some of the best musings videos, what have you reactions
to it, of course, and we bring it to you
here at two thirty in the best of x now

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last night's game said there was probably twenty signature plays.
It wasn't that long ago that Jalen Peatree was kind
of playing the role of Kamari Lassiter only with a
concussion and question marks about if he does play, how
will he be and all that kind of stuff. If
there was any doubt that he was all the way

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back despite wearing what still looks ridiculous, It just looks cartoonish.
The Guardian cap I realized that it's for a very
important reason. But if there was any doubt about him
being all the way back, I think last night, with
just over thirty seconds remaining in the third quarter and
the Chiefs driving just to their side of midfield looking

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to get to midfield, here comes for she Rice and
he is just kind of tiptoeing along what would be
a first down yardage marker, right around that part of
the field to the chief sideline. Patrick Mahomes lofts him
of football, He appears to catch it, and then Jalen
Peatree comes out of nowhere and nearly decapitates him. Best

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part about this was completely legal hit blind side variety.
I honestly didn't think he was gonna get up. I
thought they were going to be carding him off the field.
I thought he was concussed. I thought he probably had
a ruptured spleen, maybe some broken ribs, maybe a broken arm,
a clavicle, a dislocated shoulder, and a really massive headache.

(25:53):
All of the above. I'm not saying one of those things.
I thought all of those things, like if he's not
in an ice bath as we speak, he's not human.
I can't believe he's alive. After that hit the Peatree
laid on him.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
He had many passes thrown his way after that. He
finally caught one on the final drive when they didn't
have any chance to win anymore. Next three were all incomplete,
just like that one was. It was a legal hit.
I was surprised they did deem it to be because
they have a tendency to say, well, the receiver didn't
have a chance to defend himself. Is he a defenseless receiver.

(26:26):
Maybe there was a step or two. It did look
like that probably could have gone either way. Did not
make any call on it. Obviously. He seemed to be okay,
which is also good. Some people thought the helmet that
Petrie was wearing also made his helmet contact Rice's helmet.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I don't think it did.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
This is one of those you know, we saw it
a lot last year because of the manner in which
Aziz al Shaiir hit Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know, there's a camera in both end zones.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
If you look at it from the camera at Azaz's back,
you can see him hit Trevor Lawrence right in the chest,
arms extended and definitely an illegal play for the circumstances.
But if you look at it from the camera behind
Trevor Lawrence, looks like you hit him right in the head.
And you can screencap this and slow it down that
and show the camera angle that best benefits your case

(27:15):
and say look at this, oh my god. Well, people
are doing this very same thing with Jalen Petrie hit,
including a former Chiefs player who definitely is he likes
to get into it on the old Twitter sphere Mitchell Schwartz,
but he basically said, you look at this hit, uncalled, unflagged,
horrible night for the officials Jalen Petrie. You can see
the recoil of Rice's helmet. You can see the bend

(27:37):
in his helmet when Petrie makes contact with it, and
not too many people were like, come on, man, even
though they all should have been, because when you see
it from the other side or every other camera angle,
you can see how clearly it's a body to body shot.
Even the enormous guardian helmet didn't force contact with Rice's
helmet and it wasn't above the head and neck area.

(27:58):
But this is what people do on social media. And
again most of the time, I kind of think he's
pretty level headed.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
He is a former chief. I don't think that weighed
into it because it was.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
A terrible, borderline miserable night's work for the officiating crew,
as expected, all sorts of different ways, good for this team,
bad for that team, bottom line, bad for football. I
would guess I don't remember having this crew recently, the
Texans just in the last year in change. We would
remember it because they're bad at it.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, they weren't good, and we'll get into some of that.
Although it wasn't as egregious from a standpoint of screwing
the Texans over as I thought it could have potentially
have been. But let's get back to this play, because,
among others NFL memes pretty good account NFL underscore memes
on x we are obviously aware of the subject of

(28:49):
this hit, Rashid Rice, and his unfortunate behavior off the
field this offseason. Yeah, it's bad decision maker. Well, just
for a quick refresher, the cliffs notes version of what
happened leave in the Dallas area. Yes, what he was driving?
How fast? Again? Too fast? And he did what with
his car hit somebody? And then what did he do
after that? He left, left the scene of the car

(29:11):
of the accident, didn't check on the peeps. Yeah, he
just walked out, just ran up the freeway. He's a
dead beat. That's a deadbeat thing to do. I don't
care what you do, what else is on your resume.
You don't do stuff like that, especially when you're the
one driving over one hundred miles per hour. But anyway,
I digress. The only thing that made that worse was
when his idiot teammates put on T shirts that said

(29:34):
free Rashi as he was being punished for this whole
situation earlier this year, you had him in suspension jail. Yeah. Yeah,
and his teammates had T shirts they were wearing it
practice just absolutely tone deaf? Are these T shirts?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
The letter jackets of the Kansas City Chiefs twenty twenty
five season?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Nah, different situation, but I like the way you're thinking. Okay,
that's a very I like that. That's devian so okay.
NFL memes takes all that information, takes the video of
the hit and it's an ISO. Oh my gosh, it's
so good. I could watch this all day and I
am right now, and the caption reads, Rashi Ryce finally
understands what it feels like to get unexpectedly hit at

(30:17):
a high rate of speed and have the man responsible leave.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
This Petree hits him, he stays on his feet and
walks out of the picture, and he is He did
give a little flex and yell, and they were pretty
close to the Chief's sideline. Luckily, he was far enough
away from a very mad Creed Humphrey, the Center for
the Chiefs, who got all up in Petrie's face didn't
really do anything once he got there, because I mean,

(30:41):
they're playing football and he'll hit you to Creed Petrie
tried to play football, right, So that was all that happened.
But yeah, this got a lot of people comments after that.
It's pretty dark, but kind of understandable for considering what
took place there.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
This made me briefly forget about the college football playoff bs.
This is how my wife stops me from tweeting. Can
you imagine that? Now?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
On their ig account they have a caption for this
in addition to this, because that was the caption on
their tweet, so that's all they wrote on their ig account.
They actually captioned the picture that includes that caption, but
they had something else to say. So what We'll give
you their caption and I'll read one comment from Jesse,
which is also Chiefs related. The caption that the memes
put up crash Flee Rice learned what goes around comes around.

(31:30):
Jesse took this opportunity to direct it something at a
different Kansas City Chiefs player. For every miss Butker field goal,
another woman receives a PhD.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
He had the dooint and last night's game everybody participated
last night. In fact, that's an aspect of the back
and forth when it comes to the analysis of last
night's sixty minutes that I definitely want to get into.
At some point later on the show, someone else said, damn,
that's a rough blow. The comment not the hit tough stuff.

(32:04):
It's good. It's good. But by the way, you know
the Kermit the frog meme where he's drinking the tea
like it's none of my business. Have you seen the
alternative or alternate version of that. I have not seen it.
Drinks the tea and then he chokes on it. That
was another response to this, kind of like when David
Stern choked on the water bottle he was drinking exactly.

(32:25):
So anyways, lots of good stuff and uh uh nine
to one one I'd like to report a murder was
another one. Lots of good stuff coming from that one
last night. Speaking of last night and speaking of that defense,
Peatre's a part of it. Houston's is awesome. It's the
best in the league. And head coach Tomiko Ryans knows
that Hugh will hear him speak on that when we
come back. Do you think that when Demiko Ryans walks

(32:51):
into the building every day, he just thanks the big
guy upstairs or whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't want to get into everybody's religion beliefs for
lack thereof that he has so many assassins on his
defensive unit.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I wonder if people realize that we've We've tried to
tell you. I think you've watched enough that you probably
will recognize it. But when we keep going down the
list of this player and that player every week who's
making plays, and how far down we go before you
get to guys that aren't that, it's amazing. And you know,
credit to him and credit to Nick, credit to their
personnel people they're drafting their acquisitions. It's you can have

(33:29):
talent on defense and still not be great. So there
is a little bit of both going on there. And
Matt Burke also deserves a lot of credit for the
play calling he's had basically all year, all their winning year.
I mean first three games were und Miko and then
Matt took over. Everything's been great. There's more to it
than just having the right players or having talented players.

(33:49):
You know, we had a three turnover game from Kayln
Bulock and you had a multi sat game from Will
Anderson Junior and Daniel Hunter a couple of games ago,
and they all played last night, and I would talk
about probably three different players before I would talk about
them and any specific performance. Tommy TOJII, best game of
his NFL career last night, something has only happened nine

(34:11):
times in NFL history, and this was his first start
of the year. Ten tackle game, pass, breakup, a sack,
and a TfL. It's just it's incredible that they get
guys out there to do that. We've already talked about
lasted not being one hundred percent and still going out
there and making countless game changing caliber plays. Petrie and
Lassiter along with Aziz al Shair, the ones who caught

(34:35):
passes from Pat Mahomes and last night's game. All while
if you took those plays away, they still had great
individual games. Their defense is amazing, and the talent is
part of it. The scheme is part of it. Their
desire to go out there and prove it every week
when we talk to them about you know, how does
it feel you guys are number one in this number
one in that they do have the right mindset. That's

(34:57):
what we did in the past, even though it was
yesterday or three days ago, It doesn't matter, doesn't have
anything to do with what we're going to do to
Jacoby Brissett in six days or yesterday, to Pat Mahomes
or previously to Josh Allen, or to any of the
other quarterbacks that they have done that too. You know,
Matt Stafford's team beat them. I'm trying to Baker Mayfield's

(35:18):
team beat them. Trevor Lawrence's team has beaten them, bon
Nix's team has beaten them, and Sam Donald's team has
beaten them. And I don't think we're looking back at
those five individual performances by those quarterbacks and saying, well,
those guys just beat them that day.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
They're just too good for the Texans. They just outplayed them.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Stafford had a good day, but when you look at
some of his other days, yesterday'd be another example of it.
Other teams are getting absolutely slaughtered, just cut up by him.
Not necessarily Baker and bo Nicks quite obviously, but him
in particular, and it just didn't happen. Sam Donald's in
a bit of a slump here, but he's been doing

(35:57):
that to a bunch of other teams. When they got
out to the record they have, and I know they
won by twenty eight point yesterday, but that was not
one of Sam Darnold's finest games. And he still had
his way those quarterbacks and Mac Jones who won all
those games for the Niners. He just did not play
nearly as well against your defense. It's not an accident
that the number two defense and passer rating against is

(36:18):
at seventy seven point eight and you're at sixty nine
point eight. Nowhere within sight, they're so far behind you
in the rearview mirror.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
And they just go back and say, Okay, great now,
throw away the Kansas City film. I don't really care
what you know Coach Naggie and Coach Reid and Pat
Mahomes do. That's not who we're playing this week.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Now. They're looking at Bird Gang guys. Team. I admire
your consistency.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I got to keep it up for at least four
more weeks because there's a chance, there's a chance this
is it for one of the coaches in Demico's coaching classes, yep,
to say goodbye.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yep, and I bet there are more to come again.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
They both two coaches came from the Super talented Philadelphia
Eagles coaching staff. Gannon was on the defensive side, Steichen
was on the offensive side. Texans interviewed both of them. Obviously,
they interviewed Dimiko also. All three of them got hired.
Steichen's not in trouble. He is now back in quarterback
hell for the foreseeable future. If he gets fired and

(37:19):
wants to come here and he's not getting fired, well
he's stuck in that he can't win, but it's not
on him.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, but that's always what happens. Is the coach is
the one that has to be the scapegoat because other
things went wrong that weren't his fault.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Sometimes it could have been, but the general manager made
sure it wouldn't be by making the trade for Sauce Gardner.
Because now that they're also into arterbacks hurt, they don't
have a pick. And I don't think this year's quarterback
class is very good. I don't not enough of a
doctor to even say it, and I don't like the
doctors that aren't team doctors that are saying it. Did
playing Daniel Jones lead to his achilles injury, which will

(37:55):
impact his personal quest for a contract to this all season.
He signed a one year deal with the Innneapolis.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
How about this. Forget that, when can he play again?
You talk about an achilles injury here for an NFL
play or for an NBA player, they're not on the
court the next year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I know quarterbacks are different, but Aaron Rodgers, for example,
in a game at the time it was the first
first game of the season, and this is not from it,
but I would probably, I mean, Daniel Jones was already
turning into a Rodgers like quarterback because of the leg injury.
He doesn't scramble anymore, he doesn't run for fifty yards
in a game, which he used to do because he's

(38:34):
a great athlete, a pretty good mobile running quarterback.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
And since we're playing change in the future. Yeah, and
since we're playing doctor on the radio, I don't. I
don't want to say that this was the cause, but
you have to at least explore the fact that he
was overcompensating for the other legs injury, because this is
his opposite leg from the fibula injury he was playing with. Yeah,
that's so I said. I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
It's impossible for me, and I don't think any doctor
outside the organization should comment on it. I think the
doctors inside the organization will not comment on it because
they told us everything they thought we needed to know,
and I hope it's all true. He stands in no
danger of injuring himself more severely, and thus that would
also mean we don't expect it to impact some other

(39:19):
new injury that has nothing to do with that leg
at all.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well. I thought the Colts would probably peter out this
season because of their schedule. This is just going to
accelerate it. I think if Daniel Johones is healthy, they're
probably still losing enough games down the stretch to because
they're playing more competitive teams than they were early when
they were racking up all the wins. They are the ultimate.
These guys are probably Fraud's team, even though that's probably

(39:42):
not fair to say about the entire body of their work.
When you're rattling off wins over sisters or the play,
they were also destroying those teams. Yeah, yeah, they When
they went up against competitive teams, it didn't go so well.
All right, we will take a quick time out. We
are going to hear from Demiico Ryans, both on the
defense and on something that happened last night. Wex that

(40:06):
did not happen, including earlier this season, but especially in
recent years, and having been at Arrowhead right around this
time last year, it was a little bit later in
the year. It was closer Christmas, a few days before
Christmas where the Texans went up to Arrowhead and things
just did not go well. And I love the fact
that Aziz al Schier talked about that last night on
the field in his postgame interview. I was crying about

(40:28):
the fact that we were in this stadium losing in
the postseason. I was in that locker room after the
injury to Tank Dell last year, and I saw guys
crying that day because of how bad it was both
on and off the field. Very different feeling. And we'll
talk about what that means, and Tamiko Ryans will talk
about that when we come back. That's all coming up

(40:49):
in the three o'clock hour next right up, three o'clock
victory Monday edition of the A Team. It's Sports Talk
seven to ninety. It's Space City Home Network. All of Houston.
Still on a cloud nine high after last night's twenty
to ten victory over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.

(41:11):
I got a comment on my post from this morning.
The Hubby and Hubby and I watched the game in
two different rooms and his TV was on a delay,
and I kept reacting to the game, and yeah, he
almost divorced me. At one point last night. I texted you,
I don't know why you were behind me that you

(41:32):
said you're way ahead of me. I can't remember which place.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, I might have taken it for granted what you
were saying. Now you texted me something and it was
an all caps with an exclamation point at the end,
in a space between the first four letters and the
last four letters, and it said.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Dar a time.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, And I assumed that must have been because he scored. Yes,
that was when, although it could have come in when
he entered the game, because you knew he was gonna
have to because Chubb was already hurt and now Woody
Marks was being taken off the field limit he needed
to miss at least one play in the red zone
first and goal for the Texans.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
So I didn't know for sure, and I might have.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I think I the reason why I was confused because
I didn't immediately respond.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's probably ten or twelve minutes later.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, so that's why I wasn't did he mean because
he came in or was it because of the touchdown?
I wasn't that far behind you, but something else that indicated, yes,
you were ahead of me.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Did you think when that touchdown, which basically it didn't
salt away the game from it if they were tied
before he got into the end zone? Right? Right? But
what I'm saying is you need a two score lead
on Patrick Mahomes in the fourth quarter at his house
most of the time to feel better about things.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Right, And yet the two people in the TV booth
kept talking about the game like it was over. It
was seventeen to ten for six and a half minutes
of football, and we're acting like, well, I don't know,
I mean, this is I mean, it's all over.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Man.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
They have the ball down a touchdown. What are you
talking about? A really good cons Worth impression. Yeah, it's
just awful. We'll get to that in a bit.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
But no, when he scored that touchdown, did you think
about Week one at all? A little bit?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I did, Well, Yeah, I thought about the fact that
they had basically chosen to not let him touch the
football and barely play. He doesn't take the third down
reps that he was taking at the beginning of the
years obvious third down passing situations. He wasn't a zero
REP player every game, but there were some games where
he literally took no steps on offense, and yesterday probably
would have been one of them, had Nick Chubb not

(43:33):
gotten hurt. He clearly Nick Chubb goes into the game
in that situation when Woody Marks goes down in what
hopefully was nothing more than there was a lot of
whatever dirt grass in his eyes.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yes, he knows the most well. He took a helmet
to helmet hit.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
So I think that there were some concern that the
Texans or the independent up above or on the sideline
would send him into concussion protocol, which if that's what's
necessary by all means. But I sometimes there's a little
of Well, he stayed on the ground, so he must
be out. Well he wasn't out, but maybe he I
couldn't tell you, but either way, Yeah, I thought back
to when they put him in the game. I thought

(44:09):
he was goinging. I thought they were gonna run the ball,
So I knew he was gonna get the ball. I
knew they were gonna run it with him and he
was running it successfully. When this happened, well, I'm talking
about when Darry came into the game in that situation
Week one, I knew that they were gonna give him.
Well that was also he ran the ball successfully and
what were obvious passing downs and they were throwing him
the ball and in third you know, basically they needed

(44:29):
to get the ball down the field quickly, so they're
all passing downs, but short passes can sometimes be looked
at his runs.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
But this would be game winning drive potentially. In Week
one that he.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Caught a pass and again he fumbled it because the
defense made a play, not because he was careless, not
because he was loosely clearing the ball. He tried to
go down and before he got there, a smart NFL
player punched the ball. He wouldn't didn't even try to
tackle him, He barely even touched him. He punched the
football out and out it came. But in this situation,
when he had to come in in that first and
goal situation, I thought, well, they're gonna give him the ball.

(45:00):
It's first and goal from the five. He's coming in
and they will want to run it. And the formation
they look they got in was a good one to
run in finally, and they opened up a huge hole
for him.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I had just.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Moments ago been talking about what a poor day at
Ingram was having, and I don't disagree with my own comments,
but it has a pass blocker. He had a tough
day as a run blocker, which is what he needed
to do here. He did his job, so did Trent Brown.
They as run blockers, especially those two specific of their five,
they usually do a pretty good job as long as
they get their hands on you. Trent Brown will just

(45:34):
engulf you, and Ingram is able to push you where
he wants you to go, which is how the play
is designed. A good bow Way made a nice run.
They gave him a hole, and he made the most
of it well.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
By the way, a lot of guys have bad days
when Chris Jones lines up across from them from him exclusively, No,
but he was.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
He was having bad days to against too many of
their interior lignement that weren't Chris Jones, like their interior
line had a bad day. Yes, although I'm grouping Titus
in there when I don't think we had much of
an issue with how he played. But Jake Andrews and
ed Ingram got had less success than they had been having.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
By the way, just as an aside on this, before
we get to Demico, the Texans offensive line and I
realized there was a lot of penalties. In fact, there
were a lot more penalties, but they just got declined
by the Chiefs, so there could have been I guess
more on the ledger if you want to get technical
about it. Given the noise there a lot of the night.
I was impressed with how there was a lack of

(46:33):
just false start after false start. There was some dumb stuff,
don't get me wrong, the motion or the illegal shift
and all that kind of stuff, which is just maddening
every time it happens, still into December, that this is
going on from an undisciplined standpoint, but I didn't feel
like the Texans offensive line specifically killed them the way.

(46:56):
For example, Laromy Tunzel helped with that cause last year.
Others I'm just picking on him because we always did.
But from that standpoint, it was a pleasant surprise, because
that's not an easy place to play. From a crowd
noise standpoint.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
That's true, but crowd noise shouldn't impact where you put
your hand urs three was lined up in the neutral zone.
That is a flag. That's a mistake. Can't make that play.
That's on the player, it's not on the coaches. It's
not on the scheme. Can't line up like that. Right
before the fourth and one run from Cad Stover, which
was successful, wiped out because you put your hand over there.
Here's the ball, don't put your hand in front of it.

(47:29):
His helmet may or may not have been a problem.
And the Kansas City Chiefs player that was clearly over
and into the neutral zone with his helmet backed up
before they snapped it. His helmet was back and out
of the neutral zone, which is a legal defensive play.
The referees did not miss that one in my opinion,
but the Texans just you can't have that, you know.
They had two penalties on the opening drive in the
red zone. The first was the illegal shift penalty. Dalton

(47:53):
Schultz was already in motion. He was trying to tell
Jalen Knowle on the opposite side of the field. It
looked like to me what to do, basically saying stay there,
and then when he got set, then Noel started his motion.
It was kind of concurrent, so it was deemed to
be two players in motion at the same time, which
is allowed if the second player reaches a stopping point
and sets his feet again, which Noel didn't do for

(48:15):
a full second even close. I mean, they snapped the
ball right when he got in position, so the flag
was thrown before he ran his route, which opened Dalton
Schultz up wide open.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I actually thought there was.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Probably one of the two or three best passes of
the game from CJ.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Strout.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
He hit him and stride, He hit him in the hands,
he hit him so he could keep moving, and he
went right into the end zone opening drive, sixteen yard touchdown.
Texans up seven, top, except they committed a penalty that
is pre snap and totally avoidable and can't happen.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Wiping six off the board hurts way more than wiping
three off the board.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Well, they were unfortunately forced to put three on the
board because instead of converting their fourth and one, it
turned into fourth and sixth, and they kicked.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
A season like this where red zone has been such
a problem, it just that just hurt all the more
last night. But let's get back to what we love
to talk about, which is the Texans defense. The Texans
absolutely being able to do whatever they wanted and specifically, Josh,

(49:16):
just tell me right now, is the closing game one
also screwed up. Okay, good, So all the audio that
we had in the system is absolutely unusable. Just know this.
Dimiko's very happy that his defense has been able to
make things happen.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
This is pretty simple stuff. Yeah, this is the word
I've complained about the most.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Finish.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
They kept talking about finishing at the beginning of the year.
We brought it up in this very segment. They didn't
finish against the Rams because they turned the ball over
when they were trying to go and win the game.
As a fourteen to nine game, they had just created
a turnover on the other end, as i is al
Shaier had for st a fumble, so they had the
opportunity the Jacksonville game two weeks later. Obviously the fourth
and ten against Baker Mayfield in week two, but the

(49:58):
Jacksonville game two weeks later, they had two late turnovers,
the Nico Collins fumble and CJ.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
When Ursery couldn't quite keep hinz Allen away from him,
he hit Stroud as he threw the ball and it
fluttered towards Christian Kirk at the goal line.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
It was picked off. Game over.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
They weren't in position to win by just playing it out.
That's what's changed here. They're finishing these games, most of
them from in front. We've won the game up until
this point, fifty six minutes in. We're winning, so we
need to finish, finish making a new play that gets
us the win. Defense needed to keep the Chiefs from
doing anything in the fourth quarter, which they did unbelievably successfully.

(50:37):
The first four drives for the Chiefs in the fourth quarter,
they had fifteen yards on thirteen plays, turned it over
on downs twice, and threw interceptions on the other two.
That is how you finish with the lead, which they
obviously took when they themselves.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Scored in the fourth quarter. That's finishing.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
And the other part of finishing is when your offense
is on the field in a one score game and
you have to run the ball to force them to
use their timeout, and then when they're exhausted, their timeouts
are exhausted, their team is exhausted, and then you get
the first down, third and five. Woody Mark's game six
basically game over, and that's with two. That's with almost
three minutes on the clock, but it was without timeouts left.

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So now let's just run three plays that all run
the full forty off because they also ran a full
forty seconds off the clock in front of the two
minute warning because they snapped it with two forty one
to go, so that wiped off thirty eight seconds, then
forty each on the next two plays. I actually told
them via social media, which I don't think they monitor
during the game, that they probably shouldn't even bother taking

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their own time out before the Kyami Fairbairn twenty eight
yard field goal. It's gonna be good from twenty eight,
it's gonna be good from thirty three. Just save it,
make the extra second off.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Well, the defensive SoundBite actually does work, but now we
don't have time to play it, so we will get
to that. You'll hear from Dimiico. He's actually spoken today,
so we'll get some of that audio to you as well.
But we had thought it would be a good idea
on a daylight today. After what happened both on the
pro and college side of football, a lot of drama

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on both sides.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
The Texans were voted into the NFL's playoff picture this
weekend by virtue of the results on the field.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Who's upset? Who's upset that they're not voted in that
thought they should have been? That has an actual case,
we kid, but that did happen on the college side
of things. And who better to speak to than our
own Chris Gordy. So he's gonna come in for a
couple of segments starting straight ahead. Hey, Team Sports Talk
seventy ninety Space City Home Network wex AC, Josh Jordan

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and Christopher Gordy joining us in studio for the next
couple of segments. This is like this time of year
is like Christmas for you because everybody's arguing about your
favorite subject, which is college football, specifically the SEC variety.
But what absolute drama. And this is annual drama by

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the way. Wex like, you guys were talking about this
stuff before the show, and I've seen this sentiment ever since.
Basically everything happened this weekend. We got to bring back
to computers. And I'm like, you guys, I do remember
you people, you college football fanatics out there, did nothing

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but argue about these computers when that was the system, right,
So I don't know what the answer is. Got to
get the human element in there. Yeah, you have the
human element. No, we gotta go back to the computers.
These idiots don't know what they're doing. What is I
think universally accepted by everybody is that we're all happy
that Notre Dame is pouting right well.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Yeah, yes, said no. I mean, look, Notre Dame's a
big brand. It'd be great to have them part of
this playoff. But again, the decision makers in these stupid,
convoluted things they decided on, we gotta be fair. Anytime
you use the word fair, you're never gonna get real
what we want. They at least made the adjustment from

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last year where the stupid conference champions jumped to the
front of the line in Boise State and Arizona State.
I think we all saw that and went and agreed afterward,
that's stupid.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Why did we do that? But this year we still
did well.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Highest ranked conference champion and highest ranked group of five
they get in. And it's so funny. I'm literally looking
at the rankings right now. They ranked one through twenty five.
The twelfth best team is supposed to get in. So
to me, that would seem pretty simple. You would just
go one through twelve. Right, No, they went one through
ten and then the eleventh team ranks twentieth and two

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lane and the twelfth team went ranks twenty fourth in
James Mason. So instead of doing the twelve best teams,
we went we're gonna do the ten best teams and
then the twentieth and the twenty fourth best team. That's
where the logic of this thing is so stupid and
needs to be fixed.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
So how come nobody talked about that for the last
four weeks? They only talked about the teams that were
really I mean, this was always going to be a problem,
and everybody just kind of forgot about it until well,
what about Notre Dame, what about Texas and Vanderbilt and BYU,
Well they're getting screwed by James Madison, and so it
really I'm kind of embarrassed for everybody just not paying

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attention to it when they put the rules in place
the first time. Tell me, this is not the best
twelve teams in the country, and it was never going
to be not under your current system.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Anytime you got to expec put it this way, like
if your wife asks, hey, how did they figure out
these teams? And you have to spend ten minutes in explaining it.
Clearly you're doing something wrong.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So when they get down to it, do you believe
that any team really has a case and they got host?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
I mean this was Look when we used to do
four right, five and six were arguing what we deserve
to be in.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And one of those fives was thirteen and oh that year, correct, right,
Florida State. Big big difference between a team at eleven, twelve,
thirteen fourteen, don't you think?

Speaker 5 (55:40):
And again, I always go back to Georgia two years
ago where they were twelve and oh, lost by a
field goal in the SEC Championship and dropped from whatever
it was two to six. Wait, how'd they become the
sixth best team in the country?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
So you know there's always going to be arguments for teams.
We said this too when we went to twelve. We
went while thirteen fourteen are going to be arguing here,
we are thirteen or fourteen are arguing being in. So
what's gonna happen here is they're gonna expand again, We're
gonna go to sixteen. When we get to sixteen, guess
what seventeen eighteen are gonna go well, we deserved it.
When the computers come back, I mean, the computers will

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be a part of this. I just don't I don't know.
Something's got to change here. The problem is there's too
much schedule on equity across all of college football. Just
because you're in the SEC doesn't mean you play the
best schedule. Some teams play the hardest schedule in the SEC,
some teams play easier schedules. Same thing the Big Ten,
same thing in the ACC. So it's just when you're

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not playing. And then some teams really test themselves in
non conference place, some play four sloppies and don't care
about testing themselves. So when you have those measures, and
then the top of it, the committee has put so
much into well, if you're eleven and one, twelve and
oho or ten and two, clearly you're in the running.
You deserve to be in Well, when you do that,
it assumes all schedules really are equal, and they're not.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
So that's where the real flaw of this all begins.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Do you think a lot of the cost Nation discussion,
and Notre Dame's reaction to it by declining a Bowl invitation,
comes more about how we reached this point over the
last several weeks, rather than the ultimate result that the
team they believe got in over them is a team
that they lost to Miami. Obviously, when Miami's name was unrevealed,
that's when Notre Dame knew they weren't in, even though

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they probably realized that when Bama's name came first. But
point is, the team that was the last two teams
standing to get that last available at large spot is
Notre Dame and Miami. They played the opening game of
the season, Miami beat them. It seems rather fair that
that is the team who has the same record is
in over you. But it seems like they're merely mad

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because how did this happen on a week If you're
gonna give us the rankings, then actually care about them,
which the committee is essentially saying they didn't kept teams
in between them, saying they weren't comparing them head to head.
All the stupid nonsense that you heard from Hunter Yurochek
and he really, I mean, I like Hunter, and he
looked awful over the last several weeks when he had
to take over from Mac Rhodes, and the weekend didn't

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change anything. What was the point and what were they
doing in the committee room saying we're putting Notre Dame
here in the rankings, and then two spots later we're
putting Miami. Then neither team plays and Miamis moves ahead
of them. I can't not say it that way because
that is how they decided to display it to us
over the last several weeks.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
A few things here, When did Notre Dame lose their
two games? How about why was Miami ever behind them?
They have the same record for the last how many months.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
When you lose in week seven, you fall and Notre
Dame won ten in a row. So that's kind of
where the rankings, that's where it's flawed because you get
into the head head. Yes, but it's all about when
you lose. Notre Dame lost the first two weeks, then
they won all the rest of their games, so Miami

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lost their games.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Later in the season. So it's like, that's always all
consistent to me about regardless of when you have computers
or it's always been about early losses don't hurt you
as much as later losses, no matter what system you're
talking about and flows.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
But you're right, it should have been common sense said, Okay,
I know Miami lost, but they did beat Notre Dame
earlier in the year, and I know Notre Dame's on
a heater now, but we're still gonna keep them ahead
because of that head to head.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And what kind of games was was Miami playing when
they lost later in the season. Come on, there's a
very specific word you should say here. What type of
games would these be categorized?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Is?

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Is it a treat? It starts with a see, it
ends with a rents a conference game?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
They were playing conference? What kind of games were Notre
Dame playing non conference because they are an independent.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Random games against teams that just simply don't measure up.
They did play some ACC teams. I think it was
we should have seen this coming. Notre Dames should have
seen this coming, but they took their word for it.
This is where you keep ranking us. Neither one of
us played recently, so they feel like they were wronged,

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even though they really. In my opinion, you don't have
much to stand on the team that's in over. You
beat you, You have the same record, and you played
comparably moderate not super difficult schedules.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
If you missed it, none of this is going to
matter next year, as Ross Delgre unearthed, Yep, there was
a memorandum, memorandum whatever it is of understanding mamou that
Notre Dames starting next year, as long as they're ranked
in the top twelve, they get in, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Which means in the second to last rankings they'll be
at eleven, and then a final rankings they'll put them
at thirteen and laugh their butts off.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I mean you're basically in doing that, you're giving the
committee an understanding of, oh, so if we put them here,
they're in, and we put them there, they're out. I
think the bigger problem here is people are having with
James Madison and two Lane saying, these teams, why in
the hell are they in if it's supposed to be
the twelve best team. So that's that's where I think
there needs to be a real conversation had. Now some people,

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if they're out there, what in the group of five
just all get together and they can have their own tournament,
kind of like in college football or high school football,
have six a five as they could do that. I
just don't know how many people are flocking to their
TVs to go see UCF play.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I don't know Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
And the comparison. They do this in college basketball. They
have the nit for the teams that were wanting to
watch and unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Watched it for several years in a row. He would
brag about it. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
We did have games this weekend, some pretty exciting games.
North Texas suffered their second loss and losing the conference
title game to Tulane, who gets into the tournament by
virtue of that. James Madison's into the tournament with their
win over Troy and the subsequent upset of Duke meeting
Virginia in overtime. The three other games are the ones
I think people were the most interested in. BYU just
replicated their game from earlier this year. They manhandled BYU,

(01:01:41):
just physically dominated them for the second time this year
and ushered them out of the playoff picture. Georgia definitely
avenged their loss an overwhelming victory, a one sided game
Bama could not move the football against them, and then
the game that turned out to be kind of decided
by a short field goal that was missed. In Indiana
beat Ohio State. Is Indiana as the number one seed

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your favorite to win this tournament?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
No? They're very good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
I need to give them props, give them credit because
last year I put pooed them a lot, saying you
didn't beat a ranked team all year, but they got
into the playoffs and all that. This year they were
battle tested a bit. They won on the road and
embarrassed Illinois Orland year when Illinois ranked in the top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I'm sorry, is that home?

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
But still beat the hell out of them, went on
the road and beat Oregon when they were ranked third
in the country. Great win. And then they beat Ohio
State this past weekend. So Indiana's resume is much better
this year. But are they the best team? No, I
mean Vegas to tell you right now. Ohio State and
Georgia I think are best. Slightly better than Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Still very interesting in that they just play in Ohio
State in a neutral site.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I guess and beat them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
But I want to carry you over into the final segment,
so with you, we'll talk a little bit more about
the playoffs, but I'll skitch your thoughts. On the eight
and five, five straight wins totally domined AFC South, soon
to be champions again, Houston Texans next, it's up sports
here On the eight Team, wex ayd Josh, Chris Gordy,
and Tom All with you this afternoon here on Space City.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
On Howard's Hughes with Tom Moore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Well, he brings that kind of information to the program
off air that we otherwise would not know. So it's
a very good thing that he was in this studio
at that particular time and we had a very interesting
conversation about something that forced us to say, Howard Hughes,
now we're gonna talk Texans. Yes, Texans have four games remaining.
They're sitting at eight and five. There is an eight
and fourteen playing tonight. The nine and four Bills sit

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in front of them. The nine and four Jaguars lead
the division. The to eleven and two teams sit atop
the AFC, the Patriots and Broncos, and somebody will win
the North, and currently that team is Pittsburgh. Indianapolis Colts
season may have come to a close with Daniel Jones injury.
The Kansas City Chiefs sit outside the playoff picture as well,
along with Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. What about last

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night's Texans win stands out the most as we look
ahead to the final four games and guess where they
might finish inside the AFC playoff picture.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
To me, it was it's as simple as this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
The defense has held opponents to twenty or less points
eleven of their thirteen games this year. The Texans offense,
they've gotten to twenty points or more three straight games.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Now, So to me, how many of them were exactly
twenty two?

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
The simple trend here tells me the Texans offense can
be better, it can be much better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
It's doing just enough.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
But the defense is just playing at an all time,
all time greatest Texans defense level and no offense to
the bulls on parade. But this is this is a
different animal, and so the reality is you can play
with anybody. But as I mentioned to you before the show, Lex,
the next two weeks are danger spots. These are ones

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where every games, everybody you talk to is going, oh,
tex is gonna win these two easily. This is easy
Arizona in Las Vegas. The key is they don't fall
into that trap and take care of your business.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
For their offense, how much do you think it matters
that they are playing from a positive position, either a
tie game or for the most part against Kansas City,
they led the game. They only trailed the game against
the Colts for a little over three and a half minutes. Otherwise,
they have the ball and the lead. They're on the
field with their defense and are in a good position.
They're not in a negative. Our offense has to do

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something in order to win this game, because they've already
done enough to put them in a somewhat comfortable position.
Do you think that has mattered as they You've said
they've gotten to twenty or more each of the three weeks.
I believe they've scored sixty three points in three weeks,
which means twenty twenty and twenty three, which is barely
but they're three to zero because twenty is kind of
a magic spot.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Yeah, And the key is you've got a kicker that
is very reliable clutch. When you need a game winner
or a game tying field goal, he can come up big,
So that that helps as well. I'll I'm just getting
tired of seeing the graphics, guys, and seeing Texans in
the hunt. Can you get me out of the in
the Hunt column? Get me into the division leading column?

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But unfortunately Jacksonville just won't go away.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Well, they stuck Kareem Hunt and the entire Hunt family
into the in the Hunt category earlier this year, and
they kept them there. With the victory last night, Texans
in the seventh spot could be in the sixth spot
if the Chargers lose tonight. From an offensive perspective, what
is it you think they actually have room to improve in?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Where do you think they're doing something poorly? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
That can change over the next four weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
I don't think. I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
I was yelling for a couple of weeks they need
to get Nico Collins the ball more. They took care
of that over one hundred yards yesterday. Now that said,
he still only have four catches. I mean it could
it could be more there. You know, Higgins has come in,
come on as an as a decent complimentary piece. I
still think there's more there with him you can get
out of him. I always feel like they don't use

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the tight end enough. I feel like every week I look, oh,
Dalton Schultz had twenty yards, Oh Dalton Schultz have thirty yards,
And it's like when they re signed him, it was like,
as Oh, We're gonna use him as a tight end,
a pass catching tight end, and yet weekend and week out,
it's like he has two catches.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Oh, this was just a fifteen completions game. I get
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
I mean the real elephant in the room is you'd
like them to run the football better. You and I
were talking beforehand. Think of some playoff destinations you could
be heading in the postseason. Denver and New England in
January is a real possibility. Guess what, guys, It ain't
sunny seventy and sunshine in those environments.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
You gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Play in some cold, wintry, wind blowing environments. What do
you like to do in those environments? Run the football?
Wood he Marks has been better at running the football,
but it's still not anything you would call great. So
that's where I'd like them to improve, But unfortunately, I
don't think that's gonna happen in season.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I could totally see them playing Denver in the postseason
and it's a six to three final. I'm not even kidding.
And think about those defenses.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
We talked all week leading into this game about the temperature.
That was the only thing that even remotely had an
impact on the game. I do think it was harder
to throw the ball, catch the ball because of the
cold weather and how cold you were in your hands,
et cetera. However you dealt with it, gloves or otherwise.
But Buffalo and Cincinnati played in a downpour of snow
the entire game. The field was covered in snow. A

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totally different scenarios. And that game was thirty nine thirty two. Yeah,
I mean, both teams put the ball through the air,
they scored a bunch. There were some mistakes made, But
did it really impact how either of these two games
were played, just because the temperatures were lower in one
case there were snow on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
I just think the identity of the Texans team, how
Demiko wants to play. He wants it to be low scoring.
He wants it to be let's grin this thing out,
make it grimy. So yeah, I mean again, we'll see
what happens. You got to get there. The good news
is that the Texans can finish strong. Perhaps you're hosting
a first round game and go from there, but certainly

(01:09:13):
you're looking at potential destinations of going on the road
to the playoffs, and Denver and New England are two those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
You know, it's interesting as you're talking about early losses
versus late losses in college football. I think the Texans
are a victim. And I'm talking about from the coach
of the year standpoint. There's no buzz. There's no hype
for Tamiico Ryans at all. And if you were to
go to voters or just panelists or whatever and say, well,

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he started the season zero and three, that's his fault,
but that's his team's fault. I think there's something to
be said for digging yourself out of that hole when
only a few other teams have done it to even
make the postseason before. But yet I sit here, I'm
thinking he's not going to get any run for Coach
of the Year, and I think he's coached his butt off.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
He has, but let's be real, Denver is a eleven
and two and New England is eleven and two. Mike
Varibel deserves a hell of a lot of love for
what he's done there up in New England. And again
Sean Payton, for as unpalatable as it is to watch
their football games, they keep winning, they keep finding ways
to do it. So uh, yeah, look, if the Texans

(01:10:17):
went out, Domico is going to deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
A lot of love.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
It's just yeah, they if they were eleven and two,
we'd be hyping MS Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
The other thing is, okay, you've got matchups that you
could have. To me, it would really be fun as
you're exercising all these demons. In twenty twenty five, even
though he wasn't there, Lamar Jackson, you beat Baltimore, you
beat Kansas City. In Kansas City, if you were to
match up with New England, just because of the franchise
and the fact that they ousted you from the playoffs

(01:10:44):
so many times and you advanced by beating them, it
might be a little bit of a pattern this year.
I just it's scared of them. He's scared at them.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Mark, This New England team has nothing to do with
the Belichick Tom Brady team.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Yes so, but this this Kansas City team, other than
having Mahomes out there and a guy wearing Kelsey's jersey,
that's not the teams that were. But it's Red and
Chris Jones. I mean, they's still in their championship window.
How long ago did they win their last Super Bowl?
I mean, come on, it's not far removed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah, we shall see. Always appreciate you jumping in here.
We'll do this again. Soon we won't have to ask
you for your college football predictions of the playoffs because
Game one of the playoffs is still eleven days away,
but we will get there soon enough. We'll jump back
in on what else took place during last night's game.
If you had the sound up that's next.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety, maybe the sound
up coming out of there were four quarters last night's game,
as there usually are. At what point did it get
like vomit inducing for you to have to sit there
and listen to Chris collins Worth just completely slobber.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
All over thoughts yesterday was even more than usual about
how bad it was. I mean, he's not one of
the league's better color analysts. And when you play Sunday
Night football, your team the team you're definitely locked in on. Well,
it also from a work standpoint of course, it also
opens the door for two to three other games to
be shown over the course of the day that feature

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other teams and clearly other color analysts. So that's what
I did during the day. I watched the other games.
I obviously had games. You know, Thursday, we've had a
bunch of games because last week we had the Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Holiday games, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
All these other games with so many different analysts, and
they're all better than him at analyzing the game and
telling people things that I mean. I guess it's a
little subjective and I shouldn't be quite so authoritative about
that comment. But I think the people that I enjoy
listening to if I'm watching the game, I'm gonna watch
the game regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I've made that point so many times. I'll just make
it again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
He's not making me turn it off, and I'm not
tuning in because he's there. And that applies to whomever
sitting in that chair or sliding in on that chair,
if they so choose. But I don't think he's very good,
and I do think it's extremely noticeable how much he
is either thinking like the league or thinking for himself
while he's wearing Kansas City Chiefs underwear. It's enough, it's

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over the top, it's unnecessary. And there's two teams. It
happens when the Chiefs are playing insert team. It's not
a Texans thing. It's not last night was unbearable. It's
every time they do a game, even when the Chiefs
aren't playing. But most noticeably when the Chiefs are playing.
He is the best quarterback in the NFL. They have
been the best franchise in this league. It isn't even debatable.

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They've been above and beyond, way ahead of everybody else,
even with what the Eagles have done more recently and
clearly on the AFC side, nobody's even close. And this
is an era of really good AFC football teams. But
the recognition of the rest of the league is lost
on Chris Collinsworth and throughout last night's game, it was
so unbelievably evident. It wasn't an accident that he was

(01:13:58):
forced to make this throw. It wasn't an accecident that
they dropped this one. It wasn't an accident that they
caught three of his passes, only one of which was
tipped by a Chiefs player.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
These aren't accidents.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
These aren't the Chiefs are down, These aren't the Chiefs
aren't the same anymore, which is true, yep. But the
other team, especially this particular other team, this wasn't a
what got into the Texans defense tonight? Wow, we're seeing something?
Were they just so bored by it because we've seen
it all season long? Because they absolutely he specifically, Chris

(01:14:30):
paid no attention to what the Texans were actually doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
That's the interesting part about this, and I kind of
wanted to get into that later in the show, but
I'll bring it up here. You know, there was a
fine line if you're somebody like him, even though he
wasn't dancing this fine line, he wasn't tiptoeing along it.
You know, are you giving credit to the Texans versus
are you just saying that the Chiefs shot themselves in

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the foot. There's a lot of that going around just
reading synopsies of that game last night this morning, Well,
the Chiefs did this badly, you know, the Chiefs the
drop passes, for example, Well, if your defense, if the
defense that that quarterback is facing is causing that quarterback
to maybe throw the ball not in the exact right

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spot or maybe rush his throat, which, by the way
Mahomes talked about last night, if I could have bought
myself a few more seconds on that play to Travis Kelcey,
maybe it would have been a different result. Well, that's
all a result of the defense. Patrick Mahomes is not
going to have his timing off because he has a
cold that night or woke up and just was off
that day. He's not off. He's never off. And as

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a matter of fact, one of the things that makes
Chris collins Worth glaze him all the time is the
fact that he's being able to make some of these
throws with that duress in his face, with that pressure,
whatever you want to call it. So there comes a
point where it's like, maybe, maybe, Chris collins Worth, we're
not asking to take the Chiefs underwear off, but while
you're wearing them, you know, just say Houston once and again.

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I'm not commentator guy when it comes to this kind
of thing. I was never people were, so I remember vividly.
I know you too too. Back in the nineties, what
Bill Walton hates Hakim Elijuan on the Rockets. No, he didn't.
He never hated Hakeem. He would actually go out of
his way to talk about how great Hakeem was. But
even if like that was the case, Okay, well, is

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it affecting the game? No, so are we belly aching? Yes,
but he's not good. Like you said, if you want
to get a guy in the national booth, because there's
you know what, three nationally televised games where that's the
game of the week on any given nights, Thursday, it's
it's Sunday Night, and it's Monday night. If you want
to get somebody in that spot, who's going to dutifully

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carry out your this is pro NFL, whatever saga storyline
we need to have told. Okay, fine, but that person
can also be a good analyst. And Chris Collinsworth is
and he's not in just like a national game on CBS,
one of many, this is the prime time and I
would argue most watched at this point. I think Sunday

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Night has bigger ratings than Monday if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
They have had the best ratings for a long time,
twenty years now among those primetime games, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Collinsworth has always been there since Madden stepped aside. Boy,
that's a drop off. I mean, even if you didn't
like Madden, stick, I don't know man colins Worth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, it's not often then I this year, I think
I've probably done it more than usual if a comment's made.
I mean, the Texans been have been relegated to some
of the lesser teams, especially when you fall to own
three lesser broadcast teams, and it's noticeable.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
This time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
They were in the best spot and they're playing the
best team or best team of this era. And I
don't always go this route, but I couldn't help it.
I couldn't help myself last night as as the game ended,
posted this on social media. Game lasted three hours and
sixteen minutes, not quite enough time for Collins Worth to
mention the Texans forced Patrick Mahomes into the low rated
game in his entire career by a lot. And I

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gave the statistics his nineteen point eight passer rating. It
was met with forty nine thousand views. I'm kind of
a popular guy. I'm not a big deal. I don't
normally see that much activity on something I post. There
aren't always three point six thousand likes, but the comments
seemed to say as much slobber much collins was taking

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the loss hard.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Has anyone checked on him today? Seriously?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
He was too busy blaming the receivers for bad passes
and giving credit to the Chiefs so aligned for allowing
a coverage sack Tony caught astray. Good thing Tony Romo
wasn't there. He would only be praising the Chiefs in Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Here we go gym. That's what he would have said
as they were down ten with like three minutes ago.
Can we be done with Collinsworth? Why doesn't the NFL
listen to the people Chiefs? Almost a dynasty is over.
I don't mind some praise. The Chiefs earned that, but
everything came back to the Chiefs. This is basically what
we were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
It's, you know, Will Anderson creates pressure and the ball
gets thrown a touch behind the receiver which he doesn't catch,
the touchdown passed. I mean Pat Mahomes even that wasn't
Mahomes even mentioned it after the game. He should have
put the ball out there sooner. He should have thrown
it earlier to Taekwon Thornton, so the dB Lasser in
this case wouldn't have had time to close. There's a

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bigger gap between Thornton and Lassiter had the ball been
thrown earlier, but Lasser made up the gap because of
when Mahomes, not having a very good night for a
number of reasons, didn't do what he thinks he could
have and should have done.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
It was He's insufferable. I'm glad it's over for that standpoint.
Why did the Texas get more national TV games. I
want to make I want to see them, but they've
earned the right to be considered among that group, and
they certainly played like it last night. Now they've played
like it for the majority of the season, you know,
winning eight of their last ten games. All right, you're
gonna hear from Tamiico Ryans. We are going to get

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into a little bit of baseball conversation at some point,
and honestly, we'd ask this question now that it's down
to basically, it's not basically it's a two horse race.
Who's going to actually win the AFC South. We'll discuss
all of that next. We are halfway home on a
victory Monday edition of the programs Sports Talk seven ninety
Space City home Network WEX and AC with you Josh

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Jordan along for the ride. As per usual, we've already
had Chris Gordy hang out with us last hour and
it has been heavy, heavy, heavy football conversation. We got
the Chris collins Worth discussion out of the way, so
if you missed that, or if you don't want to
hear about him, good for you. It's over last night's
game and the fact that earlier in the day we

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saw what happened with the Colts, and they happened to
be playing the Jags. I thought, I thought, if Daniel
Jones didn't get obviously you know, further hurt, I thought
the Colts were gonna win that game, even though it
was in Jacksonville. Even though you could argue the Jags
are playing better than the Colts right now, it's not
exactly the biggest barometer or bar to clear at this

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point because the Colts have been down bad for a while.
But here it is. We're down to four games, and
if you were just to strictly look at the remaining schedules,
Texans have a better division record, and would that be
one of the first tiebreakers should they wind up with
the same record, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
They have a better division record currently, but they likely
will finish with the same division record. They'll both went out,
they'll both finish five and one because they're playing. It's
the second tibreak. First one is obviously head by head
to head. I think you skip that intentionally knowing that
they split. Yeah, that's tiebreaker number one. Tiebreaker number two
is your division record. Tiebreaker number three is common games.
Tiebreaker number four as conference games, It's possible all of

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those could be tied. It's also possible that Texans would
move in front of them via the common games tiebreaker.
The Denver game that looms out there is one that
a lot of people are pointing to is maybe the
equalizer Texans game at the Chargers Jacksonville's game at the Broncos.
Those two games might have a big sway factor and
where it landsence games same thing they obviously fall in there.

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A lost by the Jags to the Bengals versus a
loss by the Texans to one of countless NFC teams
is one way their conference record the Texans could lean
in their favor. I would say maybe it's a seventy
five percent chance if they end up tied, the Texans
are likely gonna win. The tiebreaker may be a little
bit higher than that, but I can't say for sure.

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It looks very favorable for them if they win one
more game than Jacksonville does the rest of the way,
that they would also win the division via a tiebreaker
four games remaining. For all of these teams, we already
knew the Colts had the toughest road, and now they
really have the toughest road. Because they're the worst of
the three teams and aren't even sure who their starting
quarterback is next week because of Riley Leonard's additional injury

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playing the majority of the game and his first real
NFL action. They go to Seattle this coming week. Then
they have games at home in Indianapolis against the Niners
and Jaguars, and they finish obviously here in Houston against
the Texans. Texans have those two games the next two
weeks again teams playing for draft position, the Cardinals and Raiders,
both in Houston. Then the trip to LA for Week

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seventeen against the Chargers. Final game home against the Colts.
The Jaguars play the Jets, who also don't know who
their quarterback is going to be this week. I know
this is hard to believe, and I hate that I
have to say this again about a person that's I like,
but a player that can't stay healthy. Terrible quarterback to
have as your backup to. Rod Taylor got hurt. They

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had to go to Brady Cook in this last game
because he had to be signed and put on the
active roster and made their backup because Justin Fields was
hurt in practice, has a sore knee so one of
those three quarterbacks will start in Jacksonville next week. Then
they go to the Broncos, go to the Colts, and
finish with the Tennessee Titans. Their schedule is seemingly extremely

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easy other than the one game at Denver, and that's
I mean, that's got to be the one if you're
the Texans that you're thinking, Okay, not only would it
suck if if if we lost out because they didn't,
you know, they didn't lose to that Denver game where
you feel like that defense should absolutely just rain terror
upon Sunshine horse face whatever you want to call Trevor Lawrence.

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But the Texans lost that game, and the Texans lost CJ.
Stroud in that game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Now, they never they never lost while he was out
because they've been playing their best football this season. But
that would that would just kind of sting a little bit.
Nobody wants to listen. Nobody in the NFL, nobody in
the AFC South wants the Jacksonville Jags to be the
the division champs other other than like, other.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Than the team that would be playing them in the
opening game of the playoffs, and that could be Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
That's the other part of this like, I don't know, well,
I actually I do know which one would be a
tastier matchup. I still say the going to New England
and beating them, even if it's not Brady or Belichick
or any other there are too many things that have
happened where you were the victim of that organization in
years past, when the games meant the most. That would

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feel good about going up there and beating that game
and beating that team and just raining on their parade.
That's the feel good story of the AFC this year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
You think you get a regardless of opponent, you think
it will get an availability before the playoffs with the
with the GM. Nick Cassario, Uh yeah, okay, so let's
say with it we do. And the matchup currently is
seven versus two. Texans are seven, the Patriots are two.
So to be a trip to New England and during
that availability, would you ask him who he's rooting for?

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
No, I know who he's rooting for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I think that you're going to say the Texans, right, yeah, barely.
He's one of the extremely small number of people that
have anything to do with that, and for him, nothing
to do with the Texans. There are a couple other
coaches on staff like Nick Kayley and Coole Papovich who
have Patriots roots, but that's on their side. There's nobody
in this organization that matters players coaches that have anything

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to do with that. I think it will mean absolutely
nothing to them, and that's really all the motivation or
going in there to beat them. They play Drake May
last year, they beat him. They played like Rabil a
bunch of times. That was their most dominant win last season.
As I recall, he actually also played pretty well, which
Patriots fans are going to be super excited to remind
everybody of should they end up being the teams that

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get together. I mean, this is all about the Texans now.
I'm glad they won't see it that way. There's no hangover.
There's nothing New England about this team, by the way,
not the players anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
You're talking about those two potential opponents. You want that
non afternoon slot for the first time ever, then you
want to play New England. I don't even know why
the NFL would think of it about it that way
other than just Jacksonville's not a good draw.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
So the Chargers and Jacksonville, the Bills and the Steelers,
the Texans, and the Patriots. By the way, the Bears
losing to the Packers yesterday meant the Bears went from
the one seed to the seventh seed. And that's the
matchup currently in place in the NFC seven versus two
so Chicago at Green Bay, San Francisco at Philadelphia, Seattle
at Tampa, Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurds, Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers,

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Josh Allen. I would think Buffalo Pittsburgh is the most
attractive game. Is it the most attractive storyline in markets.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
For them to put in primetime?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
You're having to remember this is three days to remember
they played two, three, one Saturday, Sunday Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Right, So all these games that you're talking about, let's
just take the AFC all of these face that they're
playing three thirty Saturday afternoon and you know it, I
don't know it. And here's why that's a trickle down effect.
When you consider that Mahomes isn't going to be there
in all likelihood, Lamar Jackson they're not there. So that's

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two of the big three have another game goes to
the top of the rank as far as draw just
because of Josh Allen, not because of market or anything
like that. New York. It's upper state New York. I
just you know, the big bad draw out there is
what in the AFC after that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Oh, there isn't. I mean, there's those three games. You
got Jacksonvillet home New England and home, Pittsburgh at home,
and the Chargers on the other side of that Jacksonville game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
You're banking on the familiarity of the brand that is
the Patriots bringing in ratings. If you're the NFL and
you're looking at this objectively from the standpoint of Mahomes
and Lamar Jackson aren't there, and if it's not Josh
Allen involved, I would say that that'd be your next
best try. It's not Denver Denver. Again, somebody's going to

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be off presumably Denver. No, that's true, they'll get the
one of those two will get them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
And the other LA team is possibly the other team
that's off the Rams, which I think would be a
nice straw. Matt Stafford, former Super Bowl champ, recent Super
Bowl champ, relatively speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
I just thought of something on the fly. Just now.
The Chargers everybody are they even there? Would be the
team going to Jacksonville. They're currently sixth. That's you. That's
your draw because everybody slobbers all over their quarterback for
no good reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Yes, national media and on the so not necessarily on
the television.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Well it's where's he play? Yeah? Probably it's also a
West Coast game. I was just completely forgetting about this
that that entire time. Yeah, that's true because they're going
to be at home. I don't know, I don't know.
It would be not a concern, no, but it is
fascinating because it's just not they're also on the road
this time. Who the Texans? Yes, for now, until they

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win the division, we're going with the current Matchupsy they
win the division, they aren't playing New England, that's true,
and they probably would be playing Jacksonville, would they not
in that scenario? Uh? Not definitively.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
But Jacksonville is a chance ending because all these teams
basically are sitting in the same spot. Two nine and fours,
an eight and four and an eight and five. I
don't know how they'll finish. I like this though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
It's the most wide open, but it's also the most
NFL thing ever if you have been packed.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
We don't like Jacksonville. I get it, we don't think
they're very good. I get it, But this time where
the Texans have gone on this run of five wins
in a row, and they've won eight of ten, Jacksonville's
won seven of Jacksonville's won every game during the Texans
winning streak but one, the game they lost to Houston.
They've won five of their last six, two of them
in overtime, one of them the meltdown, if you want

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to call it that against Houston. And I was watching
probably a little bit too much of the Jacksonville game
over the weekend that was I thought Trevor Lawrence actually
played pretty well, and getting Jacoby Myers is probably going
to turn out to be one of the biggest things
that happened in season anywhere in the NFL. They had
Brian Thomas junior, they had Travis Hunter. Their number one
receiver is unquestionably Jacoby Myers, and Trevor Lawrence plays that way,

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and it's kind of what I guess he felt like
he was missing. Myers even had a drop in the game,
but also had a huge touchdown catch. They got better
in season, even with the loss of Travis Hunter. They're
better at that position.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Now they are also doing a little bit of a
Colts thing here during this run. You're talking about them
winning seven of ten. A lot of those games are
against not great teams. The Chargers are good in there,
and they murdered them. Yeah. Is that is that the
game that Herbert got hurt in? That was when he
played poorly in That's there you go. They're only lost

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during that stretch is to good teams. Loss is Rams Raiders,
I mean rams Seahawks and oh this team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Called the Texts just trying to be like the Texans,
beating the Niners, beating the Chiefs, you know, the usual
stuff like Houston does. We'll see what the matchup looks
like if they meet. But next week they have the Jets,
the Texans have the Cardinals. Both teams better not find out,
Oh my god, it's a trap game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
They won't. Sports Talks seven ninety Space City Home Network
kind of mentioned this earlier, the difference between luck and
fate for Houston when it comes to the postseason. And
this is kind of like a last night's game and
the commentary we were talking about with Chris Collins words
for examples, kind of a microcosm of this, like, how

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much of this was, you know, things breaking your way
because the Chiefs, you know, couldn't complete those passes and
you know, versus you were making that happen. How much
of where you wind up in the postseason if you're
Houston has to do with things going your way versus

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you making things go your way. And I say that
because you still have the loss to Jacksonville earlier in
the season. I still can't believe this team lost to
that team. Was it seventeen to ten? Did everybody just
have a collective bad day or was that part of
the early malaise of whatever was going on with this
team that caused them to go zero to three, because
remember they had you know, if you want to call

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them quality losses, I guess moral victories suck and all that.
But you lost to a Rams team that's very good
this year. You lost to a Baker Mayfield led team
where he was playing his best football this season over
the first month and change. But that the Jacksonville game
has always bothered me the most because anytime you lose
to that team in that quarterback, it's going to bother me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Well, we talked about this with Gordy or Texas defense
is held eleven of thirteen opponents or eleven of thirteen
games to twenty points or less. Last three weeks, they've
held them to twenty points or less nineteen, sixteen, and ten.
The first three games of the season, they held their
opponents to twenty points or less all three games fourteen, twenty,
and seventeen. Last three games they're three to zero. First

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three games their own three. The Texans scored twenty or
more points in each of the last three games. That's
not a lot, but it's enough to beat teams when
you keep them under it. First three games of the
season they scored nine, nineteen, and ten. It really is
as simple as that. The offense still isn't very good,
but it's enough of an improvement into field goal range
here have closed out a couple of drives, both against

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Indianapolis last week and obviously this week's game. Last night
against the Chiefs in the red zone with touchdowns and CJ.
Throut threw a touchdown pass to Dalton Schultz on the
opening drive, got wiped out by a penalty and end
up with a field goal. That's the issue they had
throughout most of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Later in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Took the rush, saw the pressure, saw Woody Marks wide open,
lofted it over the defender's heads, and he walked in
for a touchdown. That is a red zone touchdown. They
had to have first.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
In goal from the five hand it to number thirty
three touchdown, dari a good balwale, not stuck with a
bad decision to make on fourth and short.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
It's not third and long. They haven't had a penalty.
They found a way to succeed there where they weren't
against the Rams. No touchdowns where they weren't against the Bucks.
One of their touchdowns in that game to get to
nineteen was presumably gifted to them late in the game
when Nick Chubb had his twenty five yard run that
the Bucks decided was a better way to beat the Texans,

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trying to hold them to a field goal with no
time left, which would lose the game for them. They
wanted the ball back, even though at the time they
were winning, so they could give themselves an opportunity to
score against the Texans defense, which they did. That's the
other smaller part of it. I think you'd agree their defense,
while excellent, holding the Rams to fourteen Bucks to twenty

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the Jags to seventeen and any other game in between.
Their defense is playing better.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Now than they were. Then they're playing better, and they're
they're playing more. I would say, it's what's the word
I'm looking for. They are dictating what's happening on their
side of the ball. In other words, they're not, you know,
game planning for Patrick Mahomes and that they're making Patrick
Mahomes have that bad night. It's not just oh, we're

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talented and we show up and as a unit, we're
cohesive and we're we're playing you know, we have the
camaraderie and the continuity and all the kind of stuff
that maybe the offensive side of the ball doesn't have,
especially the offensive line. No, we have a game plan
to make life miserable for the other side. And then
not only do are we putting that plan together, but

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we're actually executing it and we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
All four quarters for the most part. No, definitely, for
the most part. People are a little bit miffed. And
even when he was speaking with the team in the
locker room after the game, he talked about the third quarter,
he said, not so hot.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
He's being nice.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Pat Mahomes went four for ten in the third quarter
during their explosive ten point quarter, he went four for
ten and they scored their touchdown and kicked their field goal.
And then he followed it up by going zero for
nine to start the fourth quarter. He completed his last
two passes, otherwise he would have offered the rest of
the night. And obviously the Texans caught two of those
nine incompletions in the fourth quarter incompletions for the Chiefs

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on balls caught by the opponent, it's a laundry list
of how bad did.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
They make these quarterbacks look?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Pretty much all year those quarterbacks that mentioned, they've seen
a quarterback produce a passer rating of one hundred or
better twice all year, and the Texans actually split those games.
Daniel Jones did it because he threw two touchdowns and
no picks while completing fifty two percent of his passes.
Texans won that game. And then the other one was
the first game of the year against Matt Stafford. He

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had one touchdown pass no picks. Only cam Warden Baker Mayfield,
of all the other quarterbacks they've faced and Cooper Cup
have not thrown an interception against them. Somehow, Cooper Cup
also managed to do that on his one pass, and
then Ward threw an interception against them this second time
they played. Are the actually in the first of the
two games they've played, so they've essentially picked off every
quarterback they've faced. Other than Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones and

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Matthew Stafford. They have fifteen interceptions.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
At some point. It's probably not the other team. It's you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
It's not a fluke each week when it happens to
every quarterback that you face, and that includes Sam Darnel,
that includes Josh Allen, and includes Trevor Lawrence, and includes
Pat from Holmes. All quarterbacks they've faced and picked off
this year, all of whom have had a passer rating
of under seventy five. Against the Texans. That's benchable. That's
where cam Ward sits this year. That's where Bryce Young's

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been most of his career. That's where Geno Smith sits.
It's these are the worst quarterbacks in the league that
produce a seventy five rating, and they don't even get
that against Houston. It's actually at sixty zero point eight
this year against the Texans n that's even worse.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
It's it is them. It's not the other team, and
the other team has a week to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Work on it or two times a season to work
on it, and they have not been able to figure
it out. And one of the things we mentioned last
week that's by far to me one of the best
things to discuss about the Texans defense is they are
among the league's leaders in doing this as little as possible,
disguising their looks. They are among the league's leader in

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doing this very infrequently blitzing. They don't blitz, and they
don't disguise their looks. They say, do you have us
on film doing this? No problem, we don't care. You
can't stop us. We're putting our base defense on the field.
We're sending these four guys to rush. We're putting Sting
and Lasser and coverage. We got a Z's and Jalen

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Petri on your tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Good luck. It reminds me of when you would play
the Jazz back in the day and they would be like, yeah,
we're gonna do the pick and roll. We're not deviating,
and try and stop it and you can't. That's a
very good point about the Texans defense. They want you
to know what they're going to do to you. In fact,
they want you to be thinking about it all week
and they're not going to try and disguise it. That's
a really like a lot of defensive coordinators will do that,

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and I'm I suppose it's very effective depending on how
you go about things. But you know what's really more
effective is knowing what you're going to do and then
doing it anyways. No matter what the other team tries
to do to avoid it or make it stop or
change it, you can't make it. So they won't stop.
The bad man's not going to stop. And you look
at why.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
I mean, it's one thing to say it, but every
team can't do that because they don't have their personnel.
And you look at some of the plays from last night,
especially with the overhead cam, you can see Mahomes drops back,
there's four guys in coverage. Azase and his fellow linebackers
don't bite on play action last year in sting get
into man on man well on one coverage, Sticky, Kalin

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Bullock and Miles Bryant are back there patrol their area
and knowing where Pat Mahomes likes to go with the football,
and there's Jalen Petrie sticky on Kelsey. If it's not
a ease and he doesn't have anywhere to throw the football,
he can try to fit it into a tight window,
which ultimately he was forced to do countless times last night.
You can't play the type of defense they want to

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play unless ten things are in place. Your edge rushers
are elite. You stop the run with your base defense.
You stop the run with your tackles, one of whom
was a replacement starter and was awesome. Unless you can
play man coverage the way you want to. Like, look
at all the great plays we watched Derek Stingley Junior
make last night. I'm sorry, look at the one play

(01:40:38):
because they throw at him twice. They threw at him
early in the game when Worthy got behind him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
He was one of the nice he's not bored because
he's working, no I know, but he's not getting an
action and he loves it. I guarantee you he loves it.
But compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
He was there to bat the ball away on one
of the fourth down attempts by the Chiefs and it's
one of the I mean, Rashid Rice had a bad
night drops or not, because almost every other game he's
been back for he's been a nightmare for the other team.
He has been the lightning rod to trying to get
the Chiefs back to what everybody thought they might still

(01:41:10):
have a chance to be like they were just waiting. Well,
when he comes back, look out, when they get Rice back,
they're gonna be as explosive as they once were. And
for many of his individual I guess numbers in those games,
they were one hundred and forty one yards to two
touchdown games, four games with seven or more catches.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Guess what.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Last night's game was his worst game since his return
by far, and his most sore game probably so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
I love the fact that Matt Burke referred to Kamari
Lassiter as a psychopath. That's what he is, and that's
what this defense is, and I absolutely love it. It's
gonna be awesome to watch it in the postseason. The good,
the bad, and the ugly from over the weekend. That
is straight ahead, all right, The good, the bad, and

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the ugly from over the weekend. It can be anything.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Pat Mahomes used to be good. His performance last night
was bad, and their season has been ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
It doesn't have to be like that. But that's well done.
Thank you. You don't have to go now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
The good will be you. Josh will handle the ugly.
I'll take the meat of the sandwich in between. I'll
take the bad. What was good about this weekend? Do
you ever when you order a sandwich, do you ever
ask for extra meat? Double meat?

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Yeah? That umm? No, you should. Why be a real man,
be a carnivore?

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
I mean, if I order a large sandwich or longer
than a six inch product, is that not?

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Okay? It'll be more meat than it would have been
if you had ordered the six inch, But if you
tell them put additional meat on there, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I'll say this, I pretty much only order sandwiches at
one place that don't go out for sandwiches a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Is it Fire?

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
Yeah, the sandwiches they make or fire. I would say
that I am a huge fan of the Danny DeVito
endorsed place.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Those are I mean, I don't there much, but I
think there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
I agree. I like their food. Anytime it's not free
package and you're slicing it onto the bread fresh, that's
the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
You know, there are a lot of convenient locations for
the outlet that ought to be served underground, going like
a train, But I don't eat there very often either,
unless the kids have said I'll eat that, because, oh
my god, whatever, as long as they eat. I think
we're past that by now they're a little older. Yeah,
but college of ones in high school maybe, don't be picky.
There's there's a place that pretty much you can get

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whatever you want. Grocery store, hot food, whatever. That's usually
where I get my sandwiches ordered. All right, it's not
far from here. As a matter of fact. Sometimes stop
over there, let's go, uh yeah, anytime, I'll go over there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
All right, I'm gonna use audio for this. I'm any
you to help me out here. This is gonna be
uh from last night's Dimiko Ryan's post, and it's the
first cut, and it's what the Texans obviously did last night,
what they've been doing all season long. But I'm gonna
tell you why this is even more gooder than it
would have been otherwise. After you listened to this soundby

(01:44:20):
more Gooder, Yeah, more gooder. So he really means it
this time? Well, no, it's the the the concept of
what we're talking about itself is the part that's even
more gooder than it would have been. Oh man, Why
is EDG two O nine in there again? I'm not
stopping that not here. Put down your weapon. You have
twenty seconds to comply. You now have two seconds to comply.

(01:44:45):
Kenny never had a chance, man, and they kept shoving
him out into the front of the model, which was
all wide, of course, so that when he got blown
to smither rings show up more. I'm not sure if
everybody heard the end of it, like it's a brand
new fability.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
I had forgotten that you guys saw Tom earlier, those
of you watching on Space City Home network, and those
of you listening earlier when we had Gordy in here
and Tom in here. Tom's in the IT department, handles
the technical issues for the whole building and then some
transmitter issues to Tom. Uh he does have some No
one else has left. There's there's someone else that works

(01:45:23):
in the department. Oh, that's right, we've added a body
met them yet, I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
What's their name? I work inside this hole that door
who's never opened. Okay, that's code for he hasn't met
him yet. No.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Everybody else here that works here on a daily basis
either has a cubicle out in the middle of nowhere
or has an office with glass door and glass windows.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
We can see them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
The IT department has their own office with all the
equipment and all the broken stuff and all the parts
and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
It's a door with no windows, door with no windows,
a hole. It's locked.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
It's a pretty knock and hope they can hear you
amidst all the whatever they're doing and there, if they're
in there, if they're in there, so anyway, Yeah, So the.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Point of all that is he was talking about, gosh,
he had indigestion, apparently, find finding a way to close
out games. Is that it? Oh that one sounds good?
Is this the same one? No, what's this one about.
I can just change my my approach on the fly.

(01:46:28):
Since our technical stuff doesn't work. We could do and
leave call. You can't have that, and I don't want that.
That's for me. So finding a way to close games. Remember,
like back in the day, this was this was a
non starter because they would be humiliated on national television
if it was prime time the Rockets. No, that's a

(01:46:49):
different subject. That was also true. That's true, but no,
the Texans er play it again, play it more. It's
so ridiculous. It's not like a complicated thing that they
would never even be able to start thinking about closing

(01:47:11):
games because they were out of it already and it
was the end of the first quarter. That is something that,
especially in this place, Arrowhead felt good about last night.
I don't care what problems they're having. I don't care
if it came ten years after they've started this run.
Oh well, that's why people in my comments today, when
was your last Super Bowl? And I responded, like any

(01:47:33):
red blooded American would, at your mom a clock, that's
when it happened. Check ass, what time is that?

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
At what time I during the game last night to
use the phrase and the word good. At what point
in the game last night did you feel good about
the Texans finishing it off and winning when they had
the ball lay when Woody Marks got the first down
Sometime earlier in the game, when he made the field
goal with theirty seconds left, the.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Aziz interception meant that it was still a one score game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
They had a field forty on the clock, second and ten,
They were inside their ten yard line. He threw it
about twenty five yards down the field the twenty six yard.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Line call it outs. Prior to that on offense. That
was the part that was making you nervous. They still
had two timeouts left.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
You had the ball at the twenty six yard line
in field goal range, but they had two timeouts. You
were able to run for a first down while forcing
them to use their time changed. But did you feel
good about it at that point?

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Is that when you felt because I knew that they
were going to be able to run enough clock off,
and then when they were forced to kick a field
goal because they had to, their guy would make it.
He wouldn't joink it made the twenty eight yards pig
making sandwiches with thirty seconds left to win. But yeah,
that was kind of an important three points.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
The Texans have had a few games where the kicking
game has been in their favor, the very situation last
week with a missed extra point and all of a sudden,
the Texans are up by four late instead of up
by three late and the Colts had to operate accordingly. Yeah,
the missfield goal by Butcker definitely impacted the game. The
bad for me since luckily I can go straight to

(01:49:09):
working Dimiko Ryan SoundBite, it must be nice. The bad
was it wasn't thirty one to ten. It wasn't thirty
four to ten, it wasn't twenty seven to ten, and
they know it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
We could do some better things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Off That's all I needed. We can do some better
things offensively. Busy weekend, but not too busy for the
Wexler research team to do some research on the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
On first and ten.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
They had a little success early, a couple of long
marks runs, a couple of nice throws. They weren't in
first in fifteen's and first and twenty all night, though
it did happen.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Twice in the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
They got to get it right on first down. CJ
actually said that after the game. Too many poor opening
set of downs plays and play calls first and ten
run directly into the line. Let's see what happens. It's
gonna be second and eleven. I can tell you that
right now. That's something they need to be a lot
better at moving forward. We'll save the ugly for after

(01:50:10):
the break.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Thanks you everything.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
That's a part of our signature segment on a Monday
back for the weekend edition of it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
That means the good, the bad, the ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Two people sitting in here handled business very poorly and
too much talking so sorry, Josh, person sitting in there,
We'll have to tell you what was so ugly about
anything that took place between six pm Friday afternoon and
four forty seven thirty five here on a Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
What do you got, Josh?

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
I mean, for me personally, I liked it, but ugly?
How about the play calling and just gain management for
Andy Reid? Yes, my lord, we're gonna talk about this
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
The fourth and one for the analytics say, I just
want to point this out that they should have gone
for it here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Josh, Thanks, Chris, you make some great points.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Could you believe that, like if it wasn't enough already
he tried to try to tell us that somebody give
him a bib. You know, Josh, I'm glad you bring
this up because we tend to talk about this in
baseball a lot, and I think we're starting to come
around to the analytics of football. Similarly, they get these numbers,
and they run through these scenarios, and so they can

(01:51:14):
produce these numbers and this is what you're supposed to
do here, and this is a cowardly play the coward index.
And yet, just like baseball, they don't take into account
what no book or no analytics wouldever take into account.
This was Andy Reid making a decision on December seventh
at home in the under the lights with the twenty

(01:51:37):
twenty five Chiefs offense against the twenty twenty five Texans defense.
Many many drives into the game with whatever scores on
the board at the particular time, he's trying to make
that decision. So it's not the same as well, the
analytics tell you to do this. There are actually factors involved.
And he was asked about it after the game. He

(01:51:59):
obviously said that I'm the one making those decisions, and
you know, he kind of forcefully said, I'm the one
doing it. And we could honestly see, sometimes your broadcast
is actually good. How many times did they show Andy
Reid heading into a fourth down decision and you could
just clearly see what he was telling them to do,
you know, leave the guys out there. No, send the punt,
he said no, and you'd see the activity on the sideline.

(01:52:21):
The punt team came back off the field and the
offensive unit stayed out on the field. He was saying
no to whoever was in the headset, saying send the
punt unit out and He's like, no, we're going for it,
and clearly that is the role he plays, even with
what Matt Naggy is in charge of with their offense.
But ugly were definitely the results. And in one of
those situations, it's fourth and one and they went empty

(01:52:45):
backfield shotgun five wides four lined up to his right
with or four wides lined up to his right with
Hollywood Brown going in motion and ending up behind him,
And it kind of showed you what they think of
the Texans defense, because they actually are one of the
better teams in the league third and one and fourth

(01:53:06):
and one all year.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Kareem Hunt got one earlier in the game. They went
to a run somewhere right, They went to something very
very different there, and they haven't been a good running
team this year, and he's been one of the few
bright spots. Pachechisas last night. Yeah. Well Pachecko though, has
been like awful and hurt. Yeah, but when he was
out there, he was ineffective. I don't want to you know,

(01:53:28):
we took a whole segment for ourselves. I don't want
to limit your time here, Josh. Was that the only
of the weekend for you?

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
Just Andy that was mostly but just point being that
CJ was running for his life. In the second half,
they could hardly get anything going on offense. The few
plays they made was CJ running for his life and
making some great throws to Higgins And why would you
give them a short field?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Put them in field goal?

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Right, That's what I was gonna ac, like Josh wants
me to mention the Texans work in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
It was atrocious And what changed well, because if that
defense is playing the way is on, particularly the running
play where Dare got his like one carry, I'm kidding
there were only three. You only had one carry of
the game, That's right, that was it. It was, But
how many he had in the last Where am I

(01:54:15):
getting the number three from?

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Maybe he had three touches in the last like six games.
That's probably what it was, something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Not much. How did that defense that was terrorizing everything
they were trying to do, whether it was run or
pass in the third quarter give up like back breaking
plays like that to him of all people and others. Again,
your first and goal with the five, do you run
a good play? You win? Sometimes that's all they did there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Texans had all of eighty yards, which on over the
course of a game, three hundred and twenty yards of
offense is not awful. Obviously, it's pretty good. That's what
they had in the fourth quarter, only threw the ball
four times. They obviously ran the ball a ton, especially
late to game that first down.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
But the Higgins catch and throw, by the way, that
was insane. Those are the kinds of plays that Mahomes
usually makes, and CJ was making them not regularly, but
like look at the first half to set up the
touchdown from from Woody. That play to Collins was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
The one across his body, Yeah, where they replaced the
sod at Arrowhead Stadium with quicksand and said go ahead,
run through this Neico.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Basically was he trying to prevent a hamstring injury with
that plodding down the field?

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
I castover made one initial good block and couldn't quite
get back for the second. Jalen Nole almost got there
for the second block because you thought it was the
Chiefs were gonna catch him. That was last year Buffalo injury,
seventy five yard touchdown. He was running fast yesterday that

(01:55:51):
particular play, he was not running fast.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
He was the close, not Nico. I think it was
actually I think that is exactly what it was. And
it looked it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Was a little bit hesitation mentally to make sure I
get what I can get. I might still get in,
but I'm playing another play.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
I'm trying not to do something that could essentially really
slow us down.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
It's funny because unless you've been there when it's like that,
it's really hard to and anywhere really, but there is
something different about Midwest flat Kansas cold. I mean it
is when it hits you, the coldest I've ever been.
I was just talking about this with somebody the other day.
Is when we went up to Maniana, Minneapolis for the

(01:56:35):
Super Bowl back in twenty eighteen, which was not highlighted
unfortunately by the game because of stupid coworkers. But it
was minus five I think the day of the game
going into the stadium. So we take a cat. We'd
actually gone to Prince's recording studio before this. We kind
of we just Teresa and I just thought it was
a Hamburger place. No, No, that was different. We packed

(01:56:58):
it all in in one day. We took the tour,
timed it to where we would catch a cab and
get us to the stadium with enough time. It was
I mean we were legit dropped off like at the
front door. I don't even know how they did this.
I mean there's a line of security outside, but it was.
We were probably out there for less than ten minutes total.

(01:57:21):
I wanted to die. It was minus five and every
if you took a too deep of a breath. And
I'm not just hurt, I'm not talking about like I'm
talking about like just a little bit more than normal.
It was like knives in your lungs. That's the coldest
I've ever been. But Kansas City's no joke in the
winter time, and I could totally see whether it be Nico.
These running back are the ones I feel the worse for.

(01:57:43):
They're getting hit every single time. It hurts more because
it's cold and they're out there with short sleeves. Why
did they do this? Tough guys. By the way, those
coats that I was talking about made their parents.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Draped over the Texans as they made their way to
the sidelines throughout the game. Just so I can close
this segment out and give you the information you're dying
to have in case you forgot about it last night,
that third quarter performance by the Texans resulted in negative
two yards of offense on twelve snaps. If you think
this is the worst number, you're wrong. Zero for eight
for CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
What's worse than that he only targeted five receivers on
those eight throws because three of them don't have a
targeted player, because he had to dirt them because there
was nowhere to go with the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
He was trying to avoid lost yardage.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
He threw the ball away intentionally, not even really at
anybody in a quarter where they just simply said, here's
your chance to come back in the game, and their
defense said, but you're not going to even though you
tied it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
That's going to be it for you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Texans had the ball four times, they went three and
out all four times, and the only points scored in
the game by the Chiefs came.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
During that fifteen minutes. That's it. Texans win twenty ten.
Football at five? Next, what's some entertainment update before we
go to football at five? Yeah, if I were to
tell you that they have extended an entertainer's contract and
it was the least likely, is it a musician, nope.

(01:59:09):
Is it a talk show host yes?

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Is it a late night talk show host, yes, well
it's not Steve Nope, he's working his last few days.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
He's in dead place. NBC has Jimmy, and ABC also
has Jimmy. Is it one of them? Is it the
guy who thinks he's hilarious and laughs at all of
his own jokes and used to be on SNL. Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Is it Jimmy Kimmel, Yes, Jimmy Kimmel has had his
late night talk show host contract extended by the good
folks at Disney Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Through twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
All right, I will continue watching it in the future
as often as I currently watch it, which is how
much I don't watch any of them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Never pretty much. What time's Jimmy coming on in your
house tonight? Never o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Like a lot of sporting events are still winding down
postgame shows. I mean, you gotta be pretty, you gotta
have the guest. I can't miss for me to flip it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
On, even if it was a guest I wanted to
see if it went on his show. It the guest
went on his show. Pass.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
So back to football. But on the same note, as
we get into football at five.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
No, Taylor Swift's not scheduled for Jimmy Kimmel anytime soon
that I know of.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Last night's game was a Chiefs game on NBC. Obviously
it's Sunday night football and it was a home game. Yes,
and she's available, not currently araing around the country. Did
you see the cutaway she was shown in the suite
during the broadcast supposedly one time? Yeah, I didn't, very

(02:00:50):
grainy shotany and unmentioned the entire rest of the broadcast
like the biggest, largest just nothing burger of all of
the nothing burgers. I think her relationship with Travis as
it relates to the NFL has been to begin with,
But I would since I brought it up, Yes, I've
opened the door. I would like to hear why from you?

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
Why is that? Why did we see so little?

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
And why was there so little mention of well as
your fiance you're aware of and their marriage date and
location has been discovered?

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
I know nothing about that either. On either June thirteenth,
where Rhode Island really Yeah, that's worse than Delaware. Get
get to the why. Uh, Well, you're a numbers guy,
as everybody knows, love them one for eight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
That's why they didn't have any opportunities because he kept
doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
I mean the opportunity they had is after he basically
handed the game to his ease.

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Literally, yeah, I did not have you know, I do
think the Texans had a little bit to do with it.
His yards per catch we're talking about Travis Kelcey's on
field work this year was basically at an unplayable all
time low last year, and you could see that it
appeared to be the writing on the wall for his productivity.
It just wasn't there anymore. He did have one explosive
postseason game against Houston, but this year there were a

(02:02:13):
lot of I guess periphery numbers or just statistics, because
if you're watching the games, I think you could see
that he really hadn't not a whole lot had changed,
but averaging a few more yards per game than he
did last year, averaging almost four more yards per catch
than he did last year, and he's right on par
with his career literally currently, after last night's game, he's

(02:02:35):
averaging twelve point one yards per catch, which is exactly
his career number. There was a little bit more from
Kelsey for the Chiefs this season, all while their offense
and Mahomes was playing worse and less successfully, and the
last night was more evidence of it. But he did
also have, like Pat, arguably the me He had one

(02:02:55):
of his worst games in the last five years. He
was a non factor positively and a rather large factor negatively.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
There were only three guys that you could say were
statistically worse than him receiving the ball last night. One
of them was Juju Smith Schuster, who was targeted twice
and caught one ball for five yards. Kareem Hunt was
targeted one time and caught zero balls, and then Patrick
Mahomes targeted hisself for minus ten yards after it got

(02:03:25):
tipped in the air by the Texans defensive line.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
Aaron Rodgers and Pat Mahomes two of the quarterbacks who
caught a pass this week from themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
Yeah, well, I'm like this Honestly, last night made me
more mad about the fact that Kelsey tore them up
in the playoffs. This is essentially the same guy because
all last year he wasn't this anemic, but he didn't
do anything for them last year that was consequential.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
Mostly changed for me, wasn't the Texans defenders of Kelse.
What changed was what was going on up front. I
thought they did a much better job of again forcing
let's force the Chiefs to do things they don't really
want to do.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
And even though.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
Pat Mahomes was avoiding sacks, he was throwing balls to
places he didn't want to go. Now, their coverage was awesome,
Don't get me wrong, That's not what I'm saying at all.
It was definitely better than it was in the postseason
game a year ago. But these miracle throws, these long
scrambles that turn into big plays, the Texans were actually
the team that made them. CJ was actually the one

(02:04:29):
who made those throws. The play where we're just talking
about Tenico is on a play where he scrambles out
of the pocket and goes far to his right to
make the throw. The brilliant pass that I still never
saw a replay of to Jayden Higgins late in the game,
where he avoids the rush, the blitz gets in and
he is able to circle out of it and scramble
out to his right and make another throw on the run.

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These are the plays they've seen made against them by
the Chiefs four the last five times they've played all losses,
and it just wasn't the same last night. Yeah, the
end of an era thing is a a nice fitting
story to it all because it did end their chances
of winning the division, and it probably ends their chances
of going to the postseason because even if they win out,
there's pretty good chance they will miss the playoffs, and

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a team that's six and seven isn't really likely to
win out. Last night was not added to their one
score losses. Texans field goal late turned it into a
two score game, so it doesn't go into the books
as yet another one score loss. All of these guys
that were talking about Travis, Andy Reid, Pat Mahomes, these
are all worsts they've ever had. You know, this is
the most one score losses they've ever had. They had

(02:05:31):
a seventeen game one score win streak going into this season,
and it's the whole reason why they're out of the
race now because all of their close games have gone
to their opponents. The Texans have actually done all that
on both sides in one season. Early in the season,
if the Texans had a one score game, they weren't
winning it. Later in the season, they're winning all of them.

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And again last night was not another. But most of
this winning streak has been one score wins thirty six
to twenty nine, the low scoring games that they've managed
to win since and last night.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
There was one other thing about Chris Collinsworth that we
did not point out, as far as something he said
that if you want to construe it, as he was
being overly complimentary of the Chiefs, I don't know, no,
that was Demko, but that's what he sounded like every
time he opened his mouth. So remember when he said,
I mean, Demiko is just you can tell he relies

(02:06:23):
on his defense. He believes in his defense, and he's
he would be I'm paraphrasing, but he was basically saying
he'd be fine with them kicking a field goal right
here and letting his defense win the game, whereas Andy
Reid trust in his offense. And I was thinking to myself,
why why does he trust in his offense? They suck
because this defense is better than them.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
And we're talking so negatively about the Chiefs overall, Like,
the Chiefs offense in twenty twenty five is a lot
worse than it's been a lot worse, and it's still
much better than Houston's offense this year.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Yeah, but Chief Houston.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
And all that being said that, you know, the only
defense the Texans don't have to play by the way,
they're still not very good.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
The other team has to play their defense. If everything
as is right and Mahomes had the Texans defense, they'd
go undefeated this year. I'm just kidding. Maybe, but they
his defense.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Like last year, we know that they were carried by
their defense for the most part, and their offense wasn't
quite as bad as it is this year, but their
defense was much much better than it is this year.
And I still don't think they carried them. I think
they were a huge factor in going fifteen to one.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
My Thaws and I were texting as the game was
getting underway, mean things. No, it was. It was civil,
But I knew, and I'm not kidding when I say this,
I knew before like the end of the night, we
would not be texting at all. It's just unspoken. Like
when the playoff game happened last year, well, when the
regular season game happened, we were there. We were staying
with them obviously, so I came home and we just

(02:07:47):
didn't talk about it. I think actually we were at
a restaurant we all met at after the game. They
were already there and I met them from the stadium.
But then a few about a month later, they played
the playoff game, and there was no text for about
a week, and I think I think Norma asked Teresa,
like how I was doing, and she was like, don't

(02:08:07):
bring it up with him. Becaus pissed everybody was after
that last night, if you you know, pregame text back
and forth, and then in the first quarter because after
the offensive lineman went down, I was like, man, you
guys are like the twenty twenty five Astros right now
with these injuries. There wasn't a lot of texting after that.
But here's the thing. When healthy, that offensive line is

(02:08:31):
still one of the best in football. And I would
kill to have CJ have a line like that in
front of him.

Speaker 2 (02:08:36):
Yeah, I like Josh Simmons moving forward. Obviously, Create Humphrey
and Tray Smith are among the best in football at
their respective positions. They're still trying to figure out the
other tackle spot, and obviously they have major injury issues
to go along with all those things. One thing briefly
that we brought up earlier with Chris, and that was
Demiko Ryan's season this year. I totally agree with everything

(02:08:57):
you said about recognition for hovering. They won on one
three to start the year. You don't go to the
playoffs when that happens, you don't fight for a division
title when that happens, not very often, and they have.
They've won eight of their last ten games. They've started
to win one score games. They never lost sight of it.
They've played the same football, they stayed the course, all
the good things that make you a head Coach of
the Year candidate. But they've the last ten games have

(02:09:20):
been awesome. They've gone eight to two. So they've lost
two games to both the Patriots and Broncos, who have
each won ten games in a row with second year quarterbacks.
I'm not saying Sean Payton's going to win it, and
I'm saying Mike Vrabel's going to win it, but they're
both gonna get more recognition in.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
The voting than Dimiko Ryans will. I don't get it. Why, Well,
I think part of this is going back.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
The Texans are just trying to replicate what they did
last year and they still have a ways to go
to do it. Hey, well, those two teams are well,
the Broncos made the playoffs last year, but they certainly
weren't fighting for the number one seed, and the Patriots
were nothing like.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
I'm mad that Demiico lost out to Wait, Kevin Stefanski.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
Well, that is a good segue for accent like milk.
We haven't talked about the rest of the NFL much
and what took place both Thursday and then the rest
of the weekend heading into Monday nights game tonight, but
we need to, and Kevin Stefanski is definitely at the
forefront of it. So we begin with a conversation about
the outgoing Cleveland Brown's head coach. He just doesn't know

(02:10:26):
it yet.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
One aspect of the whole Taylor Swift conversation we did
not get to. Did you enjoy the video this morning? Yes?
Do you realize what I had to do to make
that happen? At the end, I had to listen to
the most god awful news. No, you need to calm down.
I mean, I I think, like I hear, I've heard

(02:10:51):
something over the years. All I know I know even
better No, yes, better than what crap? Just giving you
what it's like life of a show. Girl. The fact
that you know that makes me honestly question whether or
not you should turn in your man card at least
for today.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
Is there one day in the future while we're on
TV that you want me to do any of the
TikTok dances?

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
No, because it's never going to be that day. I
don't know them, but I like, I was like, Okay,
I know I want to do this because I haven't
had a chance to since they got together. I mean,
the Texans haven't been beating them since nineteen right. I
have to actually like listen or at least explore the
lyrics of some of these songs to make it make sense.
I can't just throw a Taylor Swift song on the

(02:11:34):
video and be like, see that's funny. It has to
be clever. Well, I'm like, how many of these are?
Am I going to have to listen to like twenty
seconds of and want to like I feel dinner coming
up with each time? And luckily I found the one
I used I think three choices in choices, these were
not choices. What were the losers? I don't remember? Well

(02:11:55):
they were. No, that's not true. So I'm not a
Spotify person. I'm an Apple person.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
What did your Spotify rap? Tell us all I'm looking
forward to your posts. No, no, I just said, what
age person? Are you listening to music?

Speaker 1 (02:12:06):
We are a split house. They like Spotify. I do
the Apple thing. I've always done the Apple thing, and
so they have the top songs listed in the Apple
I don't know how Spotify does. It's foreign language to me.
It's like Mandarin. I'm like, what is this? And uh,
every one of the top songs was every track on
her new album. I'm like, this is stupid. None of

(02:12:27):
those songs have sold as much as this other drivel
over here off of these other albums that also sucked,
but they've sold more because they don't. I'll get to
the point. Why did you choose against bad Blood? Mm?
Because they've always had bad Blood. I actually know some
of the lyrics without it. I just thought that it
was funnier if while Travis Kelsey is juggling and ultimately

(02:12:51):
handing the ball to ziz Au Schier for the game
clinching third interception, So why did you She's telling him
to calm down. Why did you choose again anti hero?
I don't know what that is?

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
Well, that's what pat were last night they've been Oh
my god, these are the heroes to all of it?

Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
Is it catchy?

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
Not?

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
It's it's very uncatch. I actually do not like it.
They're all un catchy. What about them?

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
The Texans were the more they were bullies, right, I
guess they were the tougher team, clearly. Is that one
on nineteen eighty six or whatever? All the Texans pushing
the Chiefs around? Yeah, because the Chiefs are little delicate flowers, right?

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
Is that a name of the song? You could have
delicate flowers? Delicate? You could have gone with that, just delicate.
That's the name of the song. Travis Kelsey was a
little delicate flower. That's why I said, I think you
had more options than you think. Spend a little more
time on Taylor Swift. Options and crap are very very
fine line between those two being separated.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
Sometime in the future, after Travis retires, maybe Pat Mahomes
and the Chiefs will face the Texans again in a
very important game, because.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
Remember what we're also on the path for.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
They play the Chiefs Division this year, so they obviously
played all of the teams in their division. They will
not next year, and the Chiefs and Texans do not
likely finish in the same spot in their division.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
This year will be first, Chiefs will be third. They're
not gonna play next year or fourth. I don't think
they're gonna be fourth. The Raiders could catch them mathematic
from what I saw last night, impossible breaker situation would
be but yes, what's the chief schedule? Isn't it hard? Yes?
But not impossible. Broncos and who are the other three?

(02:14:31):
They have one very easy game. You don't have all
the schedules up on one spreadsheet. No, I'm not a psychopath.
I do Chargers Titans. They'll go to and two down
the stretch, all right? Under five hundred, ain't Chargers will
beat them at Arrowhead? All right?

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Two things to get us back into the discussion. Also
tease what tickets we have to give away for you
for the final segment of the show, and we'll play
off on whatever it does. I tease before about Kevin's
Texans Stamiko Ryans earlier today was talking about what he
marks and Nick Chubbs from an injury standpoint, didn't really
get into specifics.

Speaker 1 (02:15:07):
Hopefully they'll see all the week goes.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
And Nick Chubb, who had a rib injury during the
game and did not return will be available. I'm sure
the Woody Mark situation this week. Unless there's concussion symptoms
that he did not divulge today or did not present
last night, I would imagine he has a very similar
week to his last couple of weeks. They'll figure out
how to get him ready for Sunday, but maybe to
that end, the Texans didn't make a roster move today.

(02:15:31):
They've been carrying two fullbacks since Yakub Johnson's been healthy,
they now only have one full back. He was released
today so they could open a roster spot for a
running back. They claimed running back Cody Schrader off of
the Jaguars waved list. He'd been on their active roster,
though basically hadn't played all season.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
Was also with the Rams at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Smaller running back out of Missouri, but again he goes
to the active roster. They carried Juwar Jordan on the
practice squad, and even though Joe Mixon is clearly paying
attention to the Texans, he was posting things last night
on social media about how awesome his teammates were playing
during the game. Tank Dell did the same last night

(02:16:11):
neither of whom have been able to play this year, but.

Speaker 1 (02:16:13):
One of them will be back next year.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
It's interesting that the Texans would make that claim in
light of what I just mentioned about the running back situation.
Obviously Dara will be available to them, but it's just
something to monitor as they get to Wednesday, Thursday, and
Friday of this week. Demiko also acknowledged what had been
reported this morning by Aron Wilson and others. Jeremy Fowler,
I believe had it first, another year of Brevin Jordan.

(02:16:35):
Texans want to stay in the Brevent Jordan business despite
his injuries the last two season, and I agree with
their decision on doing that. He posted on his social
earlier today, and Demiko did comment on how much he
loves what he brings to the table. They've got some
stuff that they would love to have him do. They
was going to be a much bigger role in the
offense for him, and probably on special teams because he's

(02:16:56):
just such a unique athlete for that size player. But
he's his way through rehab again and he is excited
to remain with the Texans for one more contracted year,
if not more after that. So I mentioned the rest
of the NFL. We really haven't talked a whole lot
about the results and kind of what it all meant
and around the rest of the league, but we definitely
would not normally talk about two teams at the bottom

(02:17:17):
of the standings. The Tennessee Titans are now not the
only one lost team in the NFL. They moved to
two and eleven, tied with the Giants in Vegas as
the worst teams in the NFL. They did so by
beating Cleveland and Kevin Stefanski, who out earned votes over
Demiko Ryans a couple of years ago for Coach of

(02:17:38):
the Year in his first year. Demiko's first year, and
I thought.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
It was a joke. You acknowledged the same then and
again earlier today.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
I do not think he's going to be coaching them
next year, and I think he's had countless missteps over
the last two seasons, including yesterday. Painfully obvious to everybody
who's watching football that at the very very bottom and
least amount of acknowledgement you could ever give to the obvious,
Shadeur Sanders gives them a better chance to win any

(02:18:04):
football game than Dylan Gabriel. That is clear as day
it was clear's day the first time he stepped onto
the field, and now it's just a louder yell because
of what he did in yesterday's game and the subsequent
game and the subsequent game just so much more playmaking ability,
willingness to actually attempt to make plays. Matt Lioner might
think Dylan Gabriel's checkdown game is strong, but no NFL

(02:18:26):
team should and apparently the Browns did for whatever reason.
And that's not even the worst part of what needs
to be brought up. Analytics, math, common sense. I don't
know where to start with this. The Cleveland Browns are
down two touchdowns. They're not down sixteen. They're not down fifteen,

(02:18:46):
they're not down thirteen. They're down fourteen points. That's two
touchdowns with a completed point after touchdown kick and they
will have fourteen points. There are number of ways to
get to fourteen, but that's the simplest way, and they
scored a touchdown. Shadeur Sanders weaved his way through a
billion Titans players and found his way into the end

(02:19:07):
zone with four to twenty seven on the clock to
make it thirty seven to twenty three, and Kevin Stefanski
decided to go for two for I'm not really sure
what reason. Playing to win, play to win on the
last play, last touchdown, you get two point you can
do it here, I guess, But you leave yourself down
eight and forced to go for two if you score
a touchdown later in the game just to force overtime,

(02:19:29):
which is what you could do by simply doing the
expected stuff, or if you don't expect your kicker to
be able to make an extra point. I guess I
can acknowledge that would be a reason. He was two
for two on the day going in. So they go
for two there and they fail. So now they're down
thirty one to twenty three. They get the ball back,
they score another touchdown. They have to go for two

(02:19:50):
now because they stupidly went for it the first time.
And while I do think there was a chance the
play that they called would have worked if the players
they put the ball in the hands of ran the
play properly, under what scenario is this your best play
option for a two point play to tie the game
late in a season where you're going nowhere. Shadur Sanders

(02:20:13):
scrambled for a touchdown had two other strong scrambles in
the game was twenty three or forty two for three
hundred and sixty four yards, three touchdowns through the air,
including multiple five of them twenty yard pass plays. He
had made plays pretty much all day. Their two point
play called for him to do what take his helmet
off and stand next to the coach on the sidelines.

(02:20:36):
They took him off the field for the two point
play and they snapped it to their running back who
ran to his right, had a receiver running reverse behind him,
and he forgot to pitch him the ball. He was
supposed to pitch him the ball and he would run
it in and he forgot to do it. How do
you forget when that's the play. I don't know should
do or wouldn't have forgotten. I wouldn't think so. But

(02:20:57):
that should be the end of the and Stefanski, I'm
running this team portion of our lives. Though he did
say today, duh yeah, sure, Ar Sanders is going to
be the start of the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
I'm looking forward to His continued to confirm that Deshaun's
going to be back on the roster next year.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
For the final hour of the program, you know what
time it is a time free case you missed it,
I mention of the tickets we have for you next segment,
and a few other items we need to visit or revisit.
Tickets we have to give away in the final segment
are for Trans Siberian Orchestra. That's the Ghost of Christmas
Eve performance, the Best of TSO and more. December nineteenth,
so a little over a week away at Toyota Center

(02:21:35):
afternoon and evening shows, and tickets are on sale for
both of those shows at Toyota Center dot com. We
also have a four pack of tickets with pit party
passes pit passes to Monster Jam February fifteenth at NRG Stadium.
There's actually three Monster Jam events. We've got tickets to
the show on the fifteenth of February, and they're on
sale now ticketmaster dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
Something we talked about during this program today.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
Likely here in this hour, we will ask you about
the final segment of the show. When you call in,
you'll tell us the answer to that question related to
our conversation here, and you'll win either of those pair
or four pack of tickets. A lot of baseball stuff
going on because the Winter Meetings taking place not long
after the GM Meetings took place, and a few items
on that front, plus the important baseball information from over

(02:22:19):
the weekend. A third teammate of Jeff Blums two thousand
and three Astros team is headed to the Baseball Hall
of Fame. Craig, Jeff and Jeff are now going to
be Hall of Famers. Jeff Kent got the word sixteen
person committee needed twelve votes to get in. He was

(02:22:40):
the loan player eligible on the ballot to get at
least twelve votes. He got thirteen of these sixteen votes
needed to get in. Are thirteen of the twelve votes
needed to get in from the sixteen person panel, and
he will now be headed to.

Speaker 1 (02:22:53):
The Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
Probably had the second best stint of his career with Houston,
best being in San Francisco, second best being just two
years here in Houston, and it all led to what
they did as soon as he left on's of the
World Series.

Speaker 1 (02:23:05):
Do you think he's gonna tect to Barry Bonds and
be like you're not getting in?

Speaker 2 (02:23:09):
Well, Bonds was on the very same ballot as he
was the same for Roger Clemens and Fernando Valenzuelak and
John Maddingley and Dale Murphy and none of them received
the supports that Jef did.

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
It's stupid, So he.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
Has headed the Hall of Fame from Bravaldez, likely to
receive him a more interest over the next couple of days.
A report from John Paul Morossi says the giants, Mets
and Orioles met with him at last month's GM meetings.
Blue Jays have made the first huge splash mainland signing,

(02:23:42):
going for two hundred ish million depending on deferred money
for Dylan Cees over seven years. Where that leaves, in
my opinion, already the best picture on the market, but
now certainly the best picture on the market.

Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
Is he gonna get the years? Is he gonna get
the amount?

Speaker 2 (02:23:58):
I'm curious and I don't know how much the Dylan
CEA's contracts will impact that. It just lessens the number
of available starting pitchers on the market. Astros remained very
interested on a number of fronts. Joe spot I met
with the media today. Dana Brown met with the media
today at the meetings.

Speaker 1 (02:24:17):
And for more on that, Josh, what do you have
for us today?

Speaker 4 (02:24:19):
Yeah, we got some tidbits here from Brian McTaggart. I'll
start with Dana Brown the one that stands out. Yeah,
Alvarez Perettis, there should be full go to start the season. Okay,
eric Velasquez promoted to head trainer. They said they did
have a look at their return to play policy and
they decided to make this move. And then of course
priority remained starting pitching. I'll get to a spot in

(02:24:42):
a second. But what do you guys think about that?

Speaker 2 (02:24:44):
Nothing too shocking, right, Well, information good as it is.
I'd like to think that both jord On Alvarez and
Esach Perettis will spend their off season preparing to be
fully healthy by the time they get to spring training.
I'm sure they will take it easy on them from
game activit and every other activity because spring training still
begins way before the extremely long baseball season actually begins.

(02:25:07):
So hopefully it's more about trying to have them ready
for opening day and prepared for opening days as best
they can. Don't know definitively anything about where they will
be though, probably see a lot of Esach Peretis roaming.
We'll have to figure out most of the rest of
the stuff. The promotion of Eric Velasquez it to me
my very first thought when I saw that was. It

(02:25:30):
sounds like what the Texans did with Kolpopovich. Kolpopovich was
on staff with Chris Strasser last two years as an
assistant offensive line coach. Their offensive line was coached very poorly,
according to everybody, and they promoted from within. Maybe it works,
maybe it doesn't. Leaves you with a lot of question marks.

(02:25:50):
And I hate to put that on Eric, who may
or may not have much to have had much to
do with how things went this year, probably had a
lot to do with how things went well, just like
jerem I did in years past.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
But this is where we are. It is weird when
things are going poorly in a certain area, a certain
specific area of an organization, and you promote from within,
because you would assume you would want to completely change
things up in every which way. That's why I've never
understood when teams don't fire their GM and their head

(02:26:21):
coach when they're just awful, they always keep one of them.
There were things still bad while the philosophy stayed a
lot of times. That is true, and it is interesting
that things work like that so Texan's way. For so long.

Speaker 2 (02:26:33):
NFL teams we had thirty players go on ir this year. Well,
then we're clearly doing something wrong. And it's not always
that case, because it happens when you're in the seventh
year of this person being there the thirteenth year, like
it just happens sometimes. And I don't know if that's
really what happened with the astros in the injuries happening,
But that's only part of the story. And that's why

(02:26:54):
what Josh mentioned is so important, the return to play procedure.
They just had too many issues on the back side
of the end setbacks players on the field that clearly
aren't ready yet.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
Jake Myers is a prime example of that.

Speaker 2 (02:27:04):
It's just too many things that did not go well
after the injury. It's you might not be able to
go through a strength and conditioning an athletic performance program
to prevent them all. I think those are somewhat happenstance
and bad luck, but you should be able to do
more with Well, how are we getting him back on
the field most effectively and presumably quickly?

Speaker 1 (02:27:24):
M h, what else do we have?

Speaker 4 (02:27:27):
All right, let's jump over to what Matteger had to
say about a spotted This one kind of jumped out
at me. Jord On will DH most of the season
for health purposes. We had just heard that maybe Perettis
would be dhing and they'd like to play yord On
more and left are Dana Brown and Spota on the
same page. This is kind of a change from what
they've been telling us.

Speaker 2 (02:27:47):
Well, when you DH, you have to run the bases, right,
mm hmm. Well he's been hurt each of the last
two seasons running the bases. He slid in hard to
second two years ago, hurt his knee, not dramatically, and
then last year's season ended across home play. Fluke total,
Fluke absolutely totally agree.

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
Everybody was sick.

Speaker 2 (02:28:05):
I mean, I guess it prevents you from running when
you're only hitting some. But he's the worst part about
this is of their possible defensive alignments with who they
have and how they're trying to fit everybody out there.
He's a significantly better outfielder than Jose al two, by
a lot better outfielder than Jose al Tuove.

Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
And yeah, but if you're looking at your Don Alvarez
any other way than he's injury prone at this point,
then you want to do everything you can to keep
just mak him big poppy it's fine. He did fine.
They won championships with him only hitting and never fielding. Plus,
if he wants to get fatty, can big Poppy did again?

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
I don't know how Big Poppy ran the bases at
that weight.

Speaker 1 (02:28:49):
He didn't have to run them. He was trotting because
they was all going over the walls.

Speaker 2 (02:28:53):
How many bats do you think he has in a
season played appearance? Five hundred and fifty? Sure he hit
the ball over the fence what thirty five times?

Speaker 1 (02:29:00):
And they were on the other five hundred and five
times he had to run the bases or walked out
because he struck out. He didn't have to run.

Speaker 2 (02:29:07):
I don't think I'm gonna beat this one out, Chief,
I'm met back here, Kyle tuckert it, Kyle Tucker di
it after a very disgusted bat flip.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
I can say those things now. He's no longer an astro,
but he's a free agent, so you never know what's
coming back here. Okay if you say so.

Speaker 2 (02:29:23):
No breaking news on Kyle Tucker's next team coming up
with the final segment of this afternoons program here on
the eighteen, Did you guys see a good morning video
today for your Houston, Texans.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
I did. It's very good, would you like? Mister Rogers cameo.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
Well, the best part about it was I knew what
I needed to do when he showed up.

Speaker 1 (02:29:41):
I had to wait for the turn to the camera
and the smile. Well, yeah, it's my favorite. You don't
have a choice. I waited to dissolve into the highlights
until he looked at the camera and smiled, Oh, fred Oh, Frederick.

Speaker 2 (02:29:52):
So I hope you were paying attention to that and
paying attention to the fact that we've got tickets to
give away to a pair of tickets to Trans Hiberian
Orchestra December nineteenth the Toyota Center, The Ghost of Christmas Eve,
The Best of TSO, and more. Tickets to afternoon and
evening shows are on sale now Toyota Center dot Com.
Got a pair of tickets to that or a four
pack of tickets with pit passes to Monster Jam that

(02:30:14):
will be at NRG Stadium February fifteenth. There are actually
three shows on the seventh, the fourteenth, and the fifteenth.
We're giving away a four pack of tickets to the
show on the fifteenth. You can get tickets to any
of those three shows via ticketmaster dot com as we speak,
they're on sale now. If you viewed the Good Morning
video or you listen to us earlier on the program,

(02:30:36):
you'll know the answer to this question. If I'm not mistaken.
There were three pieces of music used on this Morning's
Good Morning video and honor of the Texans thrashing the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (02:30:47):
Is that accurate? That's correct, although the third piece of
music was used twice and it was by a very
specific artist. Correct. You're not a fan of Yeah. She
is engaged to the who only had one catch for
eight yards. He's engaged to Kylie Kelsey's husband's brother. We
all know that, all right now.

Speaker 2 (02:31:07):
A song Yeah, by Travis Kelsey's fiance was featured on
this Morning's Good Morning video that we spoke about a
little bit earlier on the show. If you know any
of her songs, feel free to call in and guess.
If you listen to our conversation, you'll know the answer.
Or if you listen to the Good Morning video, which
you obviously could do again right now, if you so choose,

(02:31:29):
you'll know the answer to the question. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven ninety and we get y'all set
up to enjoy one of those two fantastic events coming
to Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
I uh, I wasn't kidding in the caption where I said, uh,
she who shall not be named, because I knew that
if I either Valeria de mort yeah, she who should
not be named, If I either put her actual handle
or even a hashtag in there, her stupid minions would
be all up in my mentions for at least a week. Well,

(02:32:02):
they wouldn't understand, so they would take it the wrong way.
Like Orioles fans. Yeah, you know, it's really mean when
you instilled the entire fan base by telling everybody but USh,
good morning, And why would you do that? Because it's
really mean.

Speaker 2 (02:32:18):
I don't know that it's gonna warrant it because there's
no real relationship between the Houston Texans and the Arizona Cardinals,
or the Houston Texans and the Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 1 (02:32:28):
But if let's a.

Speaker 2 (02:32:31):
Good morning video needed, I didn't think so. Like the Chargers,
mine is until the postseason. Oh no, you hate the Chargers.
They're definitely getting one if they beat la If.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
Yeah, but like if, but Justin Herbert has to have
a bad one hundred percent. We're gonna hear from Madison
Beer if the Texans beat the Chargers. You think so
a hundred times out of a hunt. It's happening in La. Yeah,
so the possibilities for music are endless, endless, But they
talk a hologram to actual Tupac. No, I mean it

(02:33:02):
wasn't the hologram that rapped. He actually recorded it. But
doesn't he still rap? Did you watch the Diddy documentary?
Definitely had him killed. Definitely had him killed, no doubt
about it. Definitely had him killed. Then have you seen
the meme floating around lately about that? No, not seen
as you called it the Diddy documentary? Yeah, well you should,

(02:33:24):
even if you're not a fan of any of that genre.
It's not just if for no other reason to realize
that there are absolute scumbags like Sean Combs. I'm not
gonna call him by his stupid nicknames. Puffy. Yeah, that
that's one of them. Go ahead, keep going. He changed
it like every five years, daddy, as he continued to
accrue mass quantities of baby oil, among other things. He

(02:33:48):
actually uh used the estate of the Notorious Big to
pay for his own funeral so this is the fitty
led backed doc. He's an ep. Okay, I need to
text a member of the Rockets organization that can make
this happen, because I'm always telling this person, Hey, why
haven't I met Curtis yet everyone else in the organization has.

(02:34:11):
And now that this is out, I just want to
shake his hand and be like bravo, because you know what,
and it's easy to say this now, but I was
in high school when Bad Boy was coming up and
becoming this other conglomerate that was lesser than death Row.
I mean, let's face it, I'm a white suburban kid
from the Northwest Side. We bankrolled death Row records. They

(02:34:32):
were always the lesser. Well, yeah, that's that's cute. Look
a look at bad Boy trying to be like death Row.
They have like one or two good artists and everyone
else sucks. But when that whole thing happened and then
he like ripped off Sting from the police every breath
you take and didn't like get the royalties stuff in order,
so he paid Sting like two thousand dollars a day

(02:34:55):
for the rest of his life. That's insane to me.
I need that kind of deal. Where can I get that.
What do I have to do write a really good
piece of music and then have some idiot rip it
off so that I can get royalties paid to me
in the form.

Speaker 2 (02:35:07):
Of grand Anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:35:09):
You should really watch it, though, because he definitely had
probably both of them killed. Do you think they'll show
it during tonight's Monday night football game. It's on Netflix,
it's on demand. They don't show it. I won't see it. Then.
Why don't you just have the game on on your
laptop and you dedicate your normal size screen to the documentary?
How much how much time do you have to put
in on it? Well, it's it's four episodes and they're

(02:35:31):
over an outreach. But I of course mode through it
in one set. But if I do that on my
next plane flight, which is how long to wear? Who
knows you of h game? They're not going out of
town for their bowl game, no flight needed. You could
fly around the stadium and watch it. I'll just go
to the stadium and watch it. Seems excessive, Yes, I'll.

Speaker 2 (02:35:51):
Fit it in there. I'm sure there's plenty of other
shows that are clinton. You need to watch this queue
twenty years agat training days. So yeah, Whoop do do
Training Day. Ethan Hawk unbelievable favorite actor.

Speaker 1 (02:36:06):
Yeah, just don't won the Academy.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
What's your favorite Ethan Hawk movie? The one that he
was in with that other guy.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
Honestly, I watched a movie of his recently with Philip
Seymour hoffin Idiot, not that one I know who stole
the show. Well, they were brothers in this movie, and
they were both spending time with Marissa Tomey. Am, I
come on Marissa different times? Well, yes, thankfully that would

(02:36:33):
be gross. I agree. She just had a sixty first
birthday last week. So this is a recent movie. No,
this is from like two thousand and seven or eight.
I want to say, so, okay, very depressing story.

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
Ethan Hawk, Marissa Timey, and Philip seymour Hoffman depressing.

Speaker 1 (02:36:51):
No, well just say Philip seymour Hoffman depressing. The other
two have been at least some uplifting roles. Yeah. She
was in the spot Man, sure. Yeah, she was helped
take care of Pete Peter Parker. Yes, I thought it
was the redhead. That's his girl. Oh she was the mom. Yeah, Oh,

(02:37:12):
I forgot about that. That's not the same as when
Diane Lane was Superman's mom.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
Steve Carell had a little flint with her in a
movie once she was a teacher and his kid was
in her class.

Speaker 1 (02:37:22):
He didn't realize she was a teacher though. What movie
was that? Uh? I can't remember. Is it the sequel
to the Jim Carrey one where he's oh gossling Emma Stone,
Julianne Moore, Oh, what's that called? Yeah? I don't know.
Marissitoe Mays, even Teresa said this last time good witness. Yeah,

(02:37:43):
when her biological clock isn't ticking, it's very loud. She's
what else? Anything else to changing? Like a fine wine?
Why can't I do this one full hours tomorrow? In
the next three days, literally like five segments a day,
talks about how women are attractive. End of the show.
We're gonna throw the segment away. What should we do?

(02:38:03):
We'll talk about Marisa tome I'm down. Let's do that.
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