Texans-Titans WHAT WAS THAT?! Texans Pulse Record and Good, Bad/Ugly

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams series,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team A.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, let's get after it, Houston. It is a
non victory Monday, it is the A team Sports Talk
seven to ninety just after two o'clock. After the Texans
rolled over and died in front of the home fans
yesterday against the Tennessee Titans. Wex over there ac right here,
thirty two to twenty seven, the final pick your aspect

(00:40):
that you would like to complain about for the next
six or four hours. I should say until six o'clock
because there are plenty, plenty of aspects of that loss
to a terrible, I mean awful Titans team. And just
listening to my co host talk about Will Levis in
a few seconds before the show started, he and Gordie

(01:00):
were chatting about it. I look, he's fine, He's just
a guy. In my opinion, Will Lews looked a whole
lot better than I think he is yesterday against the defense.
They did sack him eight times and have a pick
six against him. I think people are forgetting that part.
Oh they're totally remembering it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
And he still beat them, I know, and still threw
the ball all over their defense yesterday, while facing a
tremendous pass rush, while running into a billion sacks, while
throwing a pick six, while helping his team commit a turnover,
with a terrible exchange with Tony Pollard. He picked them apart.
Guys were open. It was a very good scheme. He
did a nice job of getting them the ball. He

(01:38):
completed his first eleven passes. He had three extremely explosive completions.
One was an eight yarder, I mean a seventy yard
touchdown after the eight yard completion. The other was a
thirty eight yard touchdown to Westbrook Akine, who put a
really nice move together. And I think there was a
mistake made by the Texans defense for sure on that play.

(02:00):
And you had a sixty yarder to Calvin Ridley as well,
all in one game, all against a team that struggled
to score, struggle to move the ball, struggle to hang
on to the ball, which they did again you.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Got a special team's turnover.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
There were a tremendous amount of positives from this game.
That's how many mistakes the Texans made to outweigh and
those are words used by Demiico Ryans yesterday. This is
the negatives outweigh the positives, and that's why this team
has five losses. Most of those games clearly were that way.
It is as simple as you know. Daniel Hunter put
it to me and everybody else in the media after

(02:34):
the game. You know, the team that makes the few
of some stakes in the NFL usually wins. I feel
like we made more mistakes, I feel he accurately assessed
the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, okay, I'll do this right off the bat, because
it is the very first segment of a four hour
show after a game like this, and I did listen.
You are you're laying out what makes it so difficult
when you lose a game like this to this kind
of team. There is no thing the Texans, their coaching staff,
the ownership, and especially the fan base. If you're gonna

(03:05):
get into an argument with Titans fans, there ain't nothing
you can say because that team came into your house
and had its way, and you made a bunch of
mistakes that helped that happen, and they also did a
bunch of things that they wanted to do. You mentioned
Pollard in the game, he had I mean this defense

(03:26):
is good. That's the crazy thing. This is a good defense.
It's better than the offense yesterday, I mean honestly, but
it's been a decent defense all year. But this is
just another in a long list of games in twenty
twenty four. Specifically, we can look back at twenty twenty three,
and a lot of people are doing that. In fact,
I've got something hilarious you guys are gonna want to

(03:48):
hear if you want to feel better about things as
Texans fans, that I'll share with you before the show
is over. But if you are looking just at twenty
twenty four, you can add this to the Jet game
for sure. But it's just a game where the overall
tone or the overall takeaway they look like they just

(04:10):
thought they were going to show up and win that
game yesterday because the Titans were in town. And I
feel like they thought the same thing going into that
Jets game on Halloween, albeit on the road and everything else.
That team had a five game losing streak coming in.
This team was a two to eighteen coming in, and
they just looked like that by virtue of showing up
and having a I guess good record, albeit a deceptive one.

(04:34):
That they were just gonna win this game. And that's
that's how it felt yesterday, all all game long.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Why would it feel that way though, I mean, eighteen
seconds into the game, you had an eighty yard kick
return and then you scored on the first play. Why
would you feel like you could just roll into the stadium?
Then what happened to push them around?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But then what happened?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
If you felt like they played that way going into
the game, well, they certainly looked like they played that
way after eighteen seconds had a lapse and you looked
up the scoreboard and they were already up seven to nothing.
I don't think there's any question. That's how it appeared
that they played. And it literally happened from the moment
they scored that touchdown. You know, the Titans kickoff return,
and then the Titans are on offense, and what did

(05:09):
they do?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
They scored on their.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
First possession, and their second possession and their third possession.
And as multiple defensive players told me after the game,
they don't feel like they came out the right way.
They did not come out with a kind of intensity
and energy and juice and all those buzzwords about how
to play football and it showed. I mean, they may
be saying it after the fact, but they probably felt
it during that because it was chunk chunk, chunk down

(05:31):
the field and two touchdowns in a field well, and
they've got seventeen points on the board, and all that
being said, you managed to put ten more points on
the board the rest of the half. It's seventeen seventeen,
you're backed up about eighty yards from the end zone.
And I love the aggressiveness most.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Of the time.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Really no reason to throw that interception late in the
first half, which resulted in three more points for the Titans,
essentially the three points that had it thirty to twenty
seven late in the when you were trying to tie
or go ahead, and you did go ahead briefly before,
for the second time in two weeks, you had a
touchdown pass to Nico Collins ripped off the board because

(06:10):
you committed a penalty. Both of them fall into the
category of totally preventable, not a physical mistake, not a
did they get caught up in a mess where the
officials had to call it. This was a eight and
illegal shift. Last week it was an eligible man downfield.
These are the ones of the eleven penalties. Texan's back

(06:31):
doing that again three times. The first couple weeks they
were ten plus. They hadn't been there in weeks. They
were again yesterday and seven of them coming in what
was another disappointing second half of football. They the mistakes again.
There were so many of them for the offense, there
were so many of them for the defense, and there
were so many of them for the special teams. That's

(06:52):
the only consistent part of the loss to the Titans.
They did play complimentary football. You think your mistakes are bad,
wait till you see what we do from each of
the three parts that make up a complimentary day of
winning football. They didn't play it, and that's why they lost.
And you know, just taking the three hour football game itself,
if you watched that game and you didn't know anything

(07:13):
about the teams prior to arrival at the stadium, you
didn't think the best team was the Texans. They did
not look like the best team on the field yesterday.
They looked like the second best team out of two.
I think the same was true in the Jets game.
We know what team's records are, and we watch other teams,
you know, pound them into submission and play terrible football
year and all of a sudden they get the Texans
and they look like a real NFL football team. Well, any

(07:35):
given sunday, that can happen when it happens to your
team more than once, maybe more than that. If you
look at some of their close wins, Yeah, that's probably
a pretty good indicator of what kind of football you
put on film, which you go out there and do
on a weekly basis, and it's it's far too often
for a team individually speaking. They clearly have a ton

(07:55):
of talent, They clearly are capable of much more than
they can, but their weaknesses are such weaknesses. And I'm
almost putting their safety play as big of a defensive
weakness as their offensive line play is as an offensive weakness.
Because teams have film and coaches and they put a
lot of time and effort into figuring out what does

(08:16):
and doesn't work. And when multiple teams come in week
after week and say, well, they those guys just did
this to them, why can't we do that, and then
they can. Lions don't have a great defense. They were
able to shut the Texans run game down, and the
Titans did the exact same thing the exact same way
yesterday to Joe Mixon and the Texans Running Game. Although
there's no and the Texans Running Game. Joe Mixon was

(08:37):
the Texans Running Game. No other running back had to
carry in the game. It was him, and he couldn't
go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
CJ had a smattering of runs. If you want to run,
run I did yesterday. He did yesterday. He doesn't play
running back. He was the only the second most effective
runner on the squad yesterday though. Yeah, I don't care
about his position. If you're if you're not running at all, though,
all I'm saying, if you're not running at all for
whatever reason, all right, we're gonna do this today. It's clear, Uh,

(09:08):
pick your aspect of this organization to bitch about, because
there's going to be plenty all day long. Yeah, we'll
even take phone calls seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven ninety I feel like Bobby Slowick is probably the
biggest whipping boy, But there is there's one that's surprising

(09:30):
to me, at least in my opinion what I've seen
just people talking about this and people that are in
the media as well, and honestly, during the television broadcast
of yesterday's game, it was alluded to a little bit
and that is the uh supposed and I use that
word purposefully regression of C. J. Stroud. I don't know

(09:52):
if if that in its of itself is a true phrase.
Is he playing worse than he did last year? Absolutely,
but the reason for it are probably up for debate,
at least I feel like they are, because there's a
lot of things at play here. So that's definitely something
I want to get into, along with the conversation about
the guy that was man. He was the darling this

(10:14):
past offseason. It was how soon after the Texans make
their run to the Super Bowl, is Bobby Slowick going
to get poached by some other team for their head
coaching position. I think that's the case now, and we'll
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Speaker 1 (11:37):
Back to Adam Clinton at Adam Wexler the eighteen on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Wonderful way to start the day with plenty of ammunition
from us and from you on the Texans thirty two
twenty seven defeat at the hands of the previously to
win Tennessee Titans. They will now get the two win
Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville. In advance of looking at what
the last month of the season holds. It holds an

(12:06):
off week followed by three games in eleven days, followed
by an extended rest period Wednesday to a following Sunday,
and that's the regular season finale against these very same
Titans Jacksonville. Next week, the offbeak Miami, Kansas City, and
Baltimore before they get to that season finale against this
Titans team. All all things considered, Texans probably did a solid

(12:29):
yesterday for their own future by helping push the Tennessee
Titans away from the top pick in the draft, which
they obviously be very much in line for with the
two win season going that have the same records as
the Jaguars. We'll see if the Texans try to do
that again, you know, help themselves for the future, all
at the expense of the twenty twenty four season. Try
to push these teams in their own division we're still

(12:50):
in the hunt for the top pick and picks in
the draft by by losing to them, by falling apart
against them, and it did feel like they just kept
finding ways to give the game back to Tennessee. Because
the Titans are clearly by virtue of what they've done
so far this season. They don't play really good football
for sixty minutes. They don't score a lot of points.
They turned the ball over a ton. They did that

(13:11):
yesterday again, turning it over three times, once on special
teams and twice with their offense. And yet each time
it seemed like, Okay, let's go ahead and take that
gift and put a little distance, or go ahead in
front and keep the momentum going as you've made plays.
They couldn't keep the momentum going right out of the
gate when they got an eighty yard touchdown return a
seventeen yard touchdown passed to an absolutely wide open cad'st

(13:35):
over see some.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Of their play calls are very good.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And yet the Titans turned around and scored on each
of their first three possessions of the game. Even while
the Texans were tearing apart the pocket and will Levis
was sacked seven times in the first half, well, the
Titans still had twenty points. The Titans still scored on
four of those six possessions that included seven sacks, one
of the all time greatest performances from a sack perspective

(13:58):
in Texans history. The eight sacks ended up getting them
a season or a franchise record tying that number, but
they gave up four sacks in the final twenty minutes themselves,
all while their opportunities were still there to do what
they had done at the beginning of the season. The
beginning of the season, the Texans played with a lot
of mistakes, but they kept figuring out how.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
To be on the right end of it at the
end of the game.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Then it's flipped started five to one, have since gone
two and four, and essentially that's when many of these
close games. It hardly feels like yesterday's game fits in
that category, but the scoreboard says it does. There was
a close game. They're obviously in position to win. Late
in the game. They scored the go ahead touchdown about
five minutes ago. Nico Collins into the end zone on
another nice play call, a good pass from Cja, a

(14:43):
great run after catch by Nico, and he found his
way into the end zone. But they didn't have their
people set in place, and after the game CJ. Stroud
said that was on him giving two different players a
motion call on the play, and that's what the referee saw,
an illegal shift and he saw it. He actually said
after the game he had turned around and realized once

(15:04):
he saw the flag and knew it was going to
be against them because obviously, as he explained, he knew why.
He didn't even realize one way or the other if
Nico actually got into the end zone because he was
already moving away from We screwed this up again, and
we found a way to make it a lot harder
than it has to be. And that's what this team
has done. It's not a mark of a good team.

(15:25):
The record says they're two games over five hundred and
five to play. They still hold that two game essentially
three game lead in the AFC South because the Colts
played bad football as they usually do and lost to
the Lions. The Texans, extremely important and followed exclusively here
on the A team magic number is down to three.

(15:45):
Any combination of Colts losses and Texans wins equaling three
will hand the very coveted AFC South Championship banner back
to the Texans and they can claim senior senior super
we're better than you status over the Colts, the Titans,

(16:07):
and the Jaguars as they await their game time for
their home opener in the playoffs. Again, as the four
seed got a lot of winning to do in front
of them. If they plan on not being the four seed,
they probably don't even have to win again to be
the four seed. Well, if the Texans lost every game
the rest of the way, they could still win this division.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, that's great. Now you're back to Bill O'Brien era.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I mean, I'm just saying that's how bad this division is,
and it's unfortunate that they're not taking advantage of it too,
and they had up until yesterday. You won three games
in the division helped you. I mean without them, you're
under five hundred. Without them, you're three and four. Well,
now you're three and five, or could have been four
games up in this division, giving you four of your

(16:52):
eight wins. You had four wins outside the division on
not three, as I just said.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
But yeah, go ahead and win all six games.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
It does make things easier from a standing standpoint if
you win your six division games because your division stinks, well,
there's only eleven other games you don't even have to
win half of them. And now you have eleven wins,
potentially you're a three seat. You win more than half
of them, potentially you're a two.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I hate that mentality. That sucks.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm just saying this year, with the Texans not being
very good, they're blowing it. I'm not trying to paint
it as a positive. I'm painting it as a negative.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
No, I know that, But the problem is the organization
is painting it that way before. Historically.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh, I don't pay it, absolutely, they have historical stuff.
There's nothing none of that.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Why not Historically they've never cared about their offensive line
except for like a three or four year period two,
So why shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
We because it has nothing to do with Nick Cassario
or Damiico Ryans. It just it doesn't have anything.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It does when the same stuff keeps happening over and
over again. Oh, but you know what, we won the division? Whoop?
You know what they're gonna do. They're gonna not win
their first playoff game this year, and that's gonna be
a step back. And then everybody's gonna say, yeah, but
they won a division.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And again, like, who do you think would be happy
about that. The fans callers Nick and.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I hope we're at the where the fans aren't having anymore.
But the ownership will definitely think it's some sort of
accomplishment that they won the division again, because they are
the only people that think that.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I don't know if they'll think that after yesterday when
they the team they clearly have. Both teams have a
chip on their shoulder. The Titans have a chip on
their shoulder every time they play the Texans and love
the fact that they think they have something uniform wise
or franchise wise over a team that can't do certain
things because they're so blue about it. Well, the Texans

(18:27):
ownership clearly has a chip on their shoulder about it.
Hannah has mentioned it multiple times.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and then when you roll over and die the
way you did, you look dumber for having said that stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Because yeah, and so how does that how's that going
to make you feel as the owner putting it out
there as much as she has or as cal has
the team.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's I mean, again, it's football.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't think they intentionally didn't quote have her back, No,
but when you do that, you're doing it because you
have confidence that your team, your leadership, your GM, your
head coach, your quarterback, your defense, they're going to go
out there and say, yeah, we do we are than them.
We are going to go out there. This is a
cake walk. And they didn't well, but this is this
is why.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I was I was running a very last minute
errand before I got back in front of my screen
in time to watch the game yesterday. So I'm listening
to the radio broadcast, and you know, Mark's a friend
of both of ours, and he says, you know, the
the Titans. He's going through what they're wearing, which this
is every broadcast does this, you know, moving left to

(19:25):
right on your radio dial. I don't know. I don't
know if he said that. I don't think he said that.
I don't think I put it this way. I'm pulling
into my neighborhood and you've been there before, so you
kind of have an idea of how long it takes
from the front of the neighborhood to my driveway. Before
I could get to my driveway, they had scored that touchdown.
It's not a very long drive. But he's talking about
what they're wearing, and he said that they had selected

(19:47):
these pants with that h Town blue as he referred
to them. Can't believe he goes for some reason, you know.
And it's like all that wardrobe talk and all of
the talk about their new uniforms. That's cool when you're
winning and it looks like you're gonna take the next step.
Then it goes back where I like to where I
was during the I'll call them the Davis Mills years,

(20:09):
because that's what they were where I was like, I
don't hear about that right now, Like we're talking about
a three one football team. It's just it looks stupid.
But against this squad, it doesn't matter. If it was
the Titans, doesn't matter if the Jags, it doesn't matter
if there was the Colts. If you play like this,
if Will Levis outplays CJ. Stroud and Tony Pollard outplays
Joe Mixon, that's a problem. And there's a lot of

(20:29):
layers to it, and there's a lot of reasons for it.
And you know, I think probably public enemy number one
is Bobby Slowick. You know how I know this because
you're seeing you're already seeing why am I drawing a
blank on his name?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
D Johnson?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, you're seeing put make Jerrod Johnson offensive coordinator, just
mentions out there. You're just seeing people say this kind
of stuff, which that's like, that's the NFL season in
a nutshell when things aren't going your way. Like do
you think Chiefs talk radio today, you know, feels good
about ten and one? They probably should because it's ten
and one, but they're not ten and one. That team's

(21:04):
trash compared to like their lofty standards. Right just like
right now, the Texans winning this division, I give about
two score and you know what about it, I don't care.
They have regressed and play calling is the number one
place that has happened. But you're now talking about in
two out of the last three weeks, you've had one
game where they've had five, all right, four and a
half interceptions and lost that game. And yesterday they absolutely

(21:28):
got to Will Levis tried to throw them off his game,
all that kind of stuff, and he still carved them,
which is certainly a way to go, letting Will Levis
carve your defense, and they let Tony Pollard run all
over them anytime he wanted to. It's just embarrassing that
a two and eight Titans team came in here and
did you in your house?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And that's why, just those two last two things you
said before the house, you can't come out of that
game and say, man, Texas defense played really well and
Demiko didn't. He said our offense scored enough points. We
all think the offense was awful yesterday with the two
turnovers that shouldn't have happened and the way that they
can't put the ball in the end zone in the
second half. They didn't have a second half touchdown. It's

(22:07):
bizarre the offense. The Texans defense has scored a second
half touchdown. Your tweet was good back to back, like
I didn't like it, but I liked it. But the defense,
they piled up a bunch of impressive individual plays which
were outweighed by the awful plays. Eight sacks is incredible
and pressures on most of the dropbacks which can't let

(22:29):
them gain yards on the ground the way they did
with Pollard all day, chunk play after chunk play, averaging
five yards of pop getting them out of the shadow
of their own end zone when Jimmy Ward and others
had him wrapped up inside the five yard line and
poofy pops right out of it and gained seventeen.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yards the three chunk plays.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
We already mentioned lot of things the defense did not
to Jalen Peatrie's injury is a factor in that it
took place during the game yesterday and certainly shifted where
some safety's responsibilities were. Aaron Wilson reporting earlier today, much
earlier today than the national report. It's about the pectoral
injury for him that was going to sideline him for weeks.

(23:03):
He actually said that yesterday, did Aaron. I'm not sure
what the timetable will be. There are six weeks of
football left, five games for the Texans left. I think
the timetable suggests he potentially, based on what they decide
to do, could make a return. But it's extremely clear.
You've heard us for weeks. What's the weakest part of

(23:25):
the Texans defense. Their safeties. Well, now there's safety who's
basically become an extremely helpful run stopper as a slot corner.
Their safeties are in a real bind here because they
have one plus safety now and his name is Kaylen Bullock.
The other two veteran safeties are good at certain things
they're getting taken advantage of, though at the things they're

(23:46):
not very good at and that's trying to cover guys.
It's a pretty big part of safety play and in
the way that you're going to be used when you're
not Kaylen Bullock, you're going to be at the line.
You're going to be specific to responsibilities. That is your guy,
this is your area of the field. And the Titans
took advantage of it most of the afternoon, and other
teams have done the very same thing. The Lions, if

(24:07):
nobody else, had put a blueprint out there of how
to take advantage of the Texan safeties in the pass
game like the Colts did in Week one, and then
they did it weeks later, and now the Titans did
it again yesterday. Again, it's all on film. Good coaches,
we'll see it. Not sure if the Jacksonville Jaguars have
good coaches, but I guess we'll find out next week
at noon in Jacksonville with a team that's not fired
their head coach. Somewhat surprisingly, when the Texans try to

(24:29):
get their eighth twenty of the year and maintain their
dominance over a division that's embarrassing, which they've now lost
a game too with what happened yesterday and Tennessee. We
got time for you guys here if you want to
do this somewhat the same as we're doing, describing all
the ineptitudes and mistakes and where the blame lies most,
if there is any landing spot for that, so we
can do that as we continue here on a Monday

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an every single day and you're the best of X
breaking the entire enginet little uh for a away from
Texas shatter briefly or maybe not. Maybe the best of
X from the weekend or yesterday morning. About twenty minutes

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before kick off comes from the Texans, and in fact
it does a little bit of audio for you, and
several other items from the X platform, much of them
stemming from what took place Saturday, and some one that
I believe will become a staple for the best of X.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
But we'll get to that momentarily.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yesterday's game for the Texans was a CBS game that
means the program with Matt Ryan, JJ Watt, Nate Brolson,
James Brown.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
What could they have calling that game? How would you
rank them? What number? What letter? I mean if like
if Jim.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
And that's the third crew, I think Tom McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I'd have to look back at probably their release would
help me. I didn't look at it last week because
already knew who was doing the game, kind of.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Listing over who is who.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
The work that was done was perfectly finee. I think
he does a good job. I think he's pretty, he's
fairly not he's not very well known, but he does
a very good job. But nonetheless, when CBS has games,
they've done something with the teams that are playing. They
usually talk to a player in the tunnel on his
way back underneath after they've gone through a workout or
a little bit of what they've done. Pregame, they talked

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to daneil Hunter a little bit, asked him about I
think it's Thanksgiving meal, likes and dislikes or something like that.
I was barely paying attention. I was at the game working.
Thus I also missed what Joe Mixon had to say
to Nate Browlson and the rest of the guys. He
did a full on pregame interview from the field and
was talking about the team and what's on the horizon,

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the immediate horizon. And remember what Joe Mixon has said
to us numerous times over the course of the season
about what they have in their locker room and total
confidence that he knows what kind of players and what
kind of teams can get it done. Are super Bowl
caliber teams like the one he was on in Cincinnati.
I figured something was in there and read the caption
on what was said, and so I wanted to deliver

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to you what was said by Joe Mixon right before
the game, part in part to CBS, who's.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Got to do whatever we can.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
It's take it one week at a time and get
hot at the right time.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
And I think the time is now, mmm, that hurts.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Get out at the right time is the only way
this team is going to do something other than what
they've put on tape for now. Twelve games, they're seven
and five. A ton of their games could have gone
either way. But they've allowed too many of their games
to get into that situation, and so many of them
Yesterday's game, the Green Bay game, the Detroit game, too much,

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too easy for those other teams to have been left
to Well, if you just make a couple of plays late.
The Texans have given you all these gifts all afternoon.
They're not taking advantage of the gifts you're giving them.
And yesterday was no different with their field goals. Yeah,
they scored a touchdown off of one of the turnovers,
the one that was a touchdown from Jimmy Ward. Hat
tip to Danielle Hunter, by the way, just in case

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I don't get to it later. Will Levis was absolutely
going to catch Jimmy Ward. He was in front of
him actually, as he had the angle on him, and
I'm not showing Jimmy would have been.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Tackled by him. Does that surprise you?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
No, Will Levis is a good athlete, but Jimmy's quarterbacks
aren't that fast.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Most aren't.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
He is. Jimmy Ward also his best attribute. I'm not
sure how far down the list it is. Speed not
his best attribute. But Daniel Hunter out ran both of
them all the way down the field. A little bit
faster than Demiko Ryans, who was trailing to play on
the sidelines, but he out ran both of them and
stayed in front of Levis the whole way, the guy
who was terrorizing him all day and was on the

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field more than any of their other defensive linemen. He
stayed in front of Levis kind of headed him off
and it turned into a touchdown. I've mentioned this a
couple of times. When you have the chance to score
on defense, he got to.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Neville Hewitt didn't do it against the Packers earlier this year,
and it cost him four points because they only got
a field goal. So a little hat tip among the
many we should be giving to Daniel over the course
of today's show and every week he's here at least
for the next year in change. We'll see if that's it. Remember,
he only signed a two year deal. Arguably the best
defensive addition any team in the NFL made certainly based

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on production the other best of X and like I said,
I think this person he's always been tailor made for this.
If you like the X platform or the one formerly
known as Twitter, and you just kind of like to, oh,
who's beefing today, Well, this is someone you could probably
look to and know that he has probably said something
in his typical troll like fashion, even though he's not

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a troll, because he absolutely believes it. Then you know
Danny Kanell is gonna always find his way to this.
He is an absolute contrarian. It's fine to have some
of those, everybody doesn't have to share the same point
of view. But he's basically a red ass about everything,
but heard about everything.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's almost to the point of embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Some of his football takes he lets leak out because
he can't see clearly to anything. So yesterday you were
probably somewhat into or Saturday Intuneto Ohio State Indiana was
our college football game of the week. Ohio State was
up by sixteen. They were sitting on forty six, then
over under a fifty three they took there. They should

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have gone over or should have hit the number, but
they ended up doing it after not taking a knee,
which was crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
They see you ended up getting a tie out of that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
But everybody else is probably paying attention to it because
they want to see if Indiana is legit, if they
belong in the playoff, if they can beat a good team,
or if they literally are a good team, because you
could say the same about Texas, US yet to beat
a good team. They've played one and they will play
another this Saturday night. Indiana has now played two or
played one and lost to them. But did they play well?

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Did they impress you? Did they belong in the top twelve?
Did they belong as a selection for this postseason? His
assessment of the game, Indiana held Ohio State to three
hundred and sixteen yards of total offense. That's the second
lowest output of the season for the Black Eyes. Two
plays were the difference in the game. Fumbled punt, punt
or cern TD. Indiana more than proved they belonged today.
Indiana scored early in the game, they led seven to nothing.

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Not long after that they were down thirty one to seven.
But it was just those two plays as to why
that game went the way it did. Normally people will
respond with total nonsense for you, Danny, and they did
two plays cause Indiana to lose by twenty three. Thanks
appreciate the help. On the math, Luke says, if you
take away twenty four points from Ohio State, Indiana wins

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this game. Signed to Danny Canel, yep, that looks like
how he assesses what took place in the game. So
according to Ryan, we're going to dismiss the fact Ohio
State turned over on downs and through an interception both
of us would have resulted in points. So it should
have been forty four to fifteen, lost by three touch
more than three touchdowns. And yet the difference in the

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game is two plays one hundred and fifty one total
yards seventy five coming when the game had been decided.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And that's the point.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Indiana scored seven points early and then could not move
the ball score points get in the rest. They couldn't
do anything the rest of the game. There are two sides,
offense and defense. Will get into special teams some other time,
but their offense literally could do nothing. But these two
special teams plays were the difference in the game. They
can score. It's a huge, huge factor. That's not even

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the best from Danny caneal this weekend, a two time
appearance in his first week here on Best of Danny
Canell decided to say, congrats Florida, you're the Kansas Jayhawks
of the SEC, as in they're knocking off teams and
doesn't really matter for them because they're not going anywhere.

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Florida did that this weekend. Kansas has now done it
three straight weeks. But when somebody of large stature quote
tweets you, hopefully I'll find it or you guys can
help me find it. You can send in your best
of X every day. We do it every day at
two thirty. I could use the help. Chipper Jones responded, Oh,
I saw Larry decided to get at Danny, and you know,

(33:48):
you know, I know when your posts on X are
going to be extra special and saucy when they start
as Chippers did. He said, Hey Danny, you know it's
gonna be good, and he did, Hey Danny. After Danny
Canel says congrats Florida, you're the kids Jayhawks of the SEC,
Chipper says, hey, Danny, I say this was all due

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respect for your mediocre career and even less mediocre career.
After throwing senseless picks at FSU. He has an exceltive
about shutting up after that. We know you hate the
SEC We get it. No need to pee in our
corn flakes because you're on uh that time of the month.
Congrats on Charleston Southern.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I like I switched it up from corn flakes from cheerios.
It's usually cheerios that get the wrath on that. I
really think he is a troll.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
But you're not really a troll if you think what
you're saying is legit and you're just all the time.
You know, last year, I mean in that Florida State
was such a big talking point. Last year, he was insufferable. Yeah,
this year with Florida, they it's impossible for them to
matter less in the landscape of college football. They congrats
on this win over Charleston Southern, like that's half their

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win total a team that was a zero lost team
a year ago. But I will definitely have a notifications
on twenty four to seven for Danny Canell because I
feel like he's always gonna come through. And then as
you get anything for Best of X today, not yet,
but let me check.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Let me go to Danny Knell's account. The provider of
endless content for segments like this. All right, when we
come back, we will hear from Demiico Ryans, and we'll
ask the question, the million dollar question. At least for now,
what happens to Bobby Slowick. That's next.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Back to Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler, the eight on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Winding down the two o'clock hour Here on the eight
team Sports Talk seven ninety. It's probably a good thing
that we televised the remaining three hour of our show
on Space City Home Network. That way I can try
to get my blood pressure down over the course of
the first hour when things happen like a three and
zero should have been weekend turns into one and two.
Don't worry. I haven't forgotten about the Rockets, although I

(36:15):
will say I got a new spirit animal on the
Houston Rockets. And if you saw the Saturday night game,
you know what I'm talking about. We'll get to that
in a little bit later on. Right now, it is
all about lamenting thirty two to twenty seven final Titans.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
The Titans.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You just got done waxing poetic for the majority of
the first hour. By the way, we's about how absolutely
bleepy this division is, and they picked the absolute bleepiest
team to lose two at home.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
No less, Texans have seven wins. The other teams have
ten combined wins.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
One time, somebody was asking me, Hey, is there anything
you've ever tweeted that you regret?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Did you all do?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
After this was after they said Hi, who are you? Yeah,
They're like, like, you know, is there anything? I'm like,
there's probably one I would take back. And I came
to remember, Oh, I know who it was. It was
Kareem Jackson, probably the reason that I got blocked by
him before you then invited him to join us on
radio him I did, he was booked.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I said, let's go.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I don't know who did that. And then after we
met and had a nice cordial interaction, we took a
picture together of my phone saying he had still had
me blocked and never would unblock me, and me and
him it was a great photo. It's fine. I earned that.
If that's the reason, why fine. If it was something else,
that's fine. His first season in the league, he was
absolutely an abomination at cover. It just terrible. Twenty ten.

(37:40):
You we got you. Guys that watched that year, remember
specifically his effort when they lost to the Cowboys. He
just was he was He didn't turn his head.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
He was unprepared to play at that level and they
had no alternatives, and.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
So he was there. They were building the defense, a.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Good soldier and just kept going out there, and I
knew he was gonna kept catching. He kept catching heat.
He did keep catching heat after games and that was
all he was catching. It was unfortunate, and he got
a lot better. He also, years and years and years later,
fell into his more natural position of safety.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, well, it took how long to figure that out?
By the way, I bring that up for a reason
that tweet about him that I said, you know, I'd
probably take that one back if I could. It just
read simply, I hate Kareem Jackson and I tagged him
in it. Ring boy.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Sometimes if it's personal or not, with so much heart,
you got it. I don't want to take it out
of context.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So it was never personal about him. I was just
mad that the defense was so yesterday, right around the
time that I think it was around the time that
the Nico Collins touchdown was called back. That's two weeks
in a row, by the way that that's happened to
the Texans. One at the start of the game against
the Cowboys, and the other came at the end of

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the game that would have put them ahead. I don't
know if comfortably would be the word. You will anuly
not comfortably.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Pending the extra point they were, it would have been
up thirty three to thirty.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So it's not even a two score game. But well,
they were losing at the time. Yeah, that's true. They
did that a lot. Yesterday they were trailing a lot.
So I said the following, I hate and I tag them.
I hate the at Houston Texans entire offensive line, and
you should too, embarrassing all season.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Totally fine, you didn't take the very much worse path.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I hate Laramie Thompson.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
I don't think j pat is on the X platform.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I could be wrong, And the thing is it's not
There's some guys that if I were to prescribe a
degree of hatred for, they would get more of it
than others. But as a unit, you just guilt by association.
Even if some of you are playing. You the offensive
lineman play better than others at times. But I just

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I don't want to have a meaningless because that's what
it is, a meaningless division championship. Anybody that won it
this year, they're not gonna say, hey, look at what
we accomplished in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
They could have. They're just not playing that way. They're
not earning this. They're just the best of four bad teams.
Five says you're not bad, but they're not playing good football.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
What if all the crappy divisions that the bell O'Brien era,
the Texans won those division championships. I don't think the
division was ever this bad the other three teams, was it? Yeah,
you got two teams fighting for the number one pick.
I don't think we've among those teams there. So the offense,
I mentioned this earlier. I'm not sure exactly how Demico
Fras is it here, but asked if the offense if

(40:39):
he felt like, is the offense is this malady of
our I guess progression of losses that they've had, is
it about the offense not doing enough?

Speaker 6 (40:48):
The concern for me is we need to play complimentary football. Right,
we played complimentary football, we win games, but we don't
We're not relying on one side right to carry the
entire team, So whatever happens, Like, our offense gave us
enough points to win the game, So that starts with
the defense. He didn't do enough to stop but we

(41:09):
didn't stop the run, and we didn't run the ball well,
and we gave up way too many points on defense.
So our offense did plenty. They gave us enough points
and defense we had to be able to stop them.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I still don't know what he said.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Basically, he basically said it's he wanted. He would do
this almost any time. He's a defensive coach. It's his defense.
He's calling the defense, they're running his defense. It's defense's fault.
Defense gave up thirty points, offense gave up the final two.
It was his safety. But that's where that's how he's
explaining and remembers, especially the coach, But players do this too.
They're not necessarily going to give you the answer that

(41:45):
they think they're going to give you the answer that
they can just move on to the next question with.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But like taking a blame for that double motion if
you will, I mean, how does that even happen?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
If what he said is true, And it's kind of
hard to know if it is or not. But if
he says what he did in the huddle was give
two guys a motion call and they did it, that's
his fault and that's what he said. If that's really
what happened, then yeah, what if he's trying to protect
somebody and why get all of our dirty laundry out there?
You know, you ask an offensive lineman and you know,
could you do this? They're not gonna They're trying to

(42:16):
do the right thing. And then they get into was
the team gonna break apart? And they're trying to publicly
not make that happen. It might be happening privately, but
they're trying not to do that, at least the appearances
they're trying not to do that publicly. I don't even
think you can totally disagree with Themiko, even though it
sounds ludicrous, But yeah, they did score twenty seven points.
How did this defensive yours let the Titans score thirty?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It sounds like he's trying to spread blame. And when
he says it that way, it does kind of make sense.
But I just I can't look at yesterday's game and
think it, Oh, it was definitely the defense's fault.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
You're right, you can't because the blame should be shared
by everybody involved top down.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Just an absolute ugly, ugly Sunday. And well, we're going
to continue talking about it because because there's plenty to discuss,
we haven't even really gotten the scratched the surface of
all of the blame to go around. So we'll do
that when we start the three o'clock hour. That is
straight ahead here on the A Team.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
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Speaker 2 (43:16):
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Speaker 1 (43:47):
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Speaker 2 (44:02):
Straight up three o'clock here on Sports Talk seven to
ninety and Space City Home Network simulcast. You can see
all of the rage in high definition here on this
side of the console. WEX would never do such a
thing after a thirty two twenty seven defeat at the
hands of the Tennessee Titans. That's what your Houston Texans

(44:23):
did yesterday on their home field. By the way, as
we get the second of four hours underway, I've got
some even better news for Texans fans, and by that
I mean it's going to get worse and it has
nothing to do with the play on the field, But
we'll save that for later on. There is plenty to
get to here in hour number two. As we start
the simulcast, WEX over there ac right here, just an

(44:46):
absolute abomination of a game yesterday that wasn't I don't
want to say it wasn't as close as it look,
because it was. They were, you know, neck and neck,
nose to nose the whole day, and it was just, okay,
who's going to win this? I guess of attrition. But
some of the takeaways that we've talked about in the
first hour, obviously the blame that is going around and

(45:08):
how much of it should be assessed for the defense
versus the offense. I still say that a defense that
had eight sacks, just like a defense that had five
picks two weeks ago, I just can't give them as much.
When you are consistently talking about a team that, whatever
the score is, leading or trailing at halftime, you know this,
We're not going to score a touchdown the second half

(45:30):
more often than not, just not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That's perfect because then I can give them the blame
since you are going to.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm mad at everybody. I mean, I'm mad at special teams,
Kyami Fairban. Really you're gonna hit a bunch of fifties
in a row, oh NFL record, can't hit a twenty
eight or that was He's been here a long time.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I've been here for longer, so I've been here for
the whole time that he has same for you. That's
his upset, both from an anger standpoint and a disappointment,
clear disappointment standpoint than I've ever seen him. He was
all of us when he collapsed, lapsed on the field
as the ball like maybe even before it got to
the net, he knew that he had not pushed it

(46:06):
at all. He basically just kicked it right down the
line and it well, it went pretty straight, which meant
it wasn't going to be good or successful. And he
fell down right then and there, almost immediately. Then he
went to the sidelines and threw his helmet, and the
cameras caught him. I was also binocularing him, and you
could see what he was saying to himself and how
upset he was, and he knew the situation. There was

(46:28):
enough time left for them to get the ball, which
they did not in a very good position, and then
they made it worse. But that was their opportunity to
They could have tied the game, and then their defense
could have gotten the Titans off the field and they
would have gotten the ball back with a chance to
win the game, potentially with a tie game. He did
make two long field goals, but he's had a couple

(46:50):
of kicks here recently where at the end of a game,
you know, you watch Jake Bates hit two long field
goals while he missed his one, they got one to tie,
and then they got.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
One to win.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
You didn't The distance hardly even matters anymore. I mean,
people aren't missing fifty plus yard kicks because it didn't
get there. Everybody's kick that's attempted is getting there. Any
sixty yard kicks are getting there.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
They're all getting there.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
It's a matter of, well, can you kick it properly
from twenty eight or forty eight or fifty eight. It
doesn't matter where you are distance wid It's a matter
of if you can get it through there. The special teams,
if you just want to start there. The special teams
had a terrible miskick. They had multiple horrific penalties, Kamari
Lassiter committing a holding penalty, Jesus running down the field
as a gunner and he grabbed the guy by the

(47:33):
jersey and essentially tossed him to the ground. It negated
really really good field position for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
MJ.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Stewart's personal foul on a blind side block late in
the game, which pushed them back to the point where
Dan Orlovski's name was mentioned with CJ. Strouds, I think
erroneously because I do not believe I haven't seen the
closest possible camera to his feet. I think he was
contacted before his foot went out of bounds. There was

(48:00):
really nothing he can do. It was really nothing like
the Orlovsky play he was going to It was a safety.
The play was already done. There was nowhere for him
to go. He was going to get tackled or at
the very least pushed out of bounds. And he did
go out of bounds. And then you need Kaymi for
the on side kick. You did give up. I still
don't understand why the Texans are begging teams to return
the ball against them.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't I don't like it. Give them the ball
at the thirty and be done with it.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
They haven't been good enough at stuffing them inside the
twenty five. And I say that based on yesterday. Their
numbers on the season are actually all right. They figured
it out a week ago with Cavante Turpin. The Commanders
did not. If you didn't see that, And that's all
these other NFL games we'll get to at some point.
But yeah, you know, even in the span of you
bringing up the defense, I couldn't help myself and blaming

(48:45):
the special teams for their part in it. And two
weeks running now they've gotten elite punting and matters in
these games from Tommy Towns in the best two games
as a Texan for him. He did a phenomenal job
of putting the lot of the tight in terrible position
and the Titans fielding a ball inside their five for
absolutely no good reason. Worked out for the Texans on

(49:05):
that too. So, just like everywhere else, there was enough
good that, yeah, they should have won, but there was
too much bad that it overcame anything that they did.
And that's the story of the defense. Sack sack, sack, sack, Oh,
huge long touchdown, Oh, another touchdown. Tennessee's offense absolutely beat
the Texans defense. Yes, sight, the Texans defense didn't didn't

(49:28):
outplay the unit they were up against at all, and
it sacks. Big deal.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
If you give them thirty points, what's the difference now, Listen,
it looked even worse for a long time because of
and this happens a lot. It's it's kind of suspect
or it's a slant on the numbers if you're just
looking at the box score. And they were out gaining
an out time of possessioning them all day. Because the
Texans drove right down the field with a special teams

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play and a touchdown on the very first play of
offense to start the game.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
The Texans had the ball eight fewer minutes than normal.
They were top five, and they were third in the
league actually in time of possession going into yesterday's game.
The Titans had the ball for thirty four and a
half minutes and the Texans, like I said, eight minutes fewer.
It's a combination of both things. Couldn't get the Titans
off the field. The Titans were also burning clock with
knowing completions and a bunch of running plays. It's not

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necessarily that they couldn't get them off the field because
their third down conversion percentage was bad. They did convert
a fourth down Mondays after the Texans play. Normally we
hear from Demiko Ryans a little bit earlier in the afternoon,
but it's going to fall in our show pretty much
every Monday the rest of the way until eternity, or
at least the rest of the football season. One item,

(50:39):
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
he was asked. I don't know what he opened the
presser with today, which is still underway.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
What did Tomiko have to say today? We just got
to go do it.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Like we had a lot of cleaning up to do,
which we go through the film and our guys understand.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
What we have to do, but we just have to
go do it.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Like as I told our.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Guys, we don't need a big media and nothing needs
to be said or talked about.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We just got to go do our job.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Something probably needs to be said about your execution. That's
a word we don't mention enough because if you complain
about Bobby Slok's play calls, but there's a lot of
play calls that are just poorly executed that are absolutely fine.
You know, the first play of the game, was that
a bad play call. It was a brilliant play call.
You got your tight end wide open in the end

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zone on the first play of the game and you
scored a touchdown. You've got Nico Collins wide open in
the middle of the field late in the game for
the go ahead touchdown. Both of those plays were very
well executed. There are a bunch of plays that you
can execute all you want, they're destined to fail. And
that's why Bobby slow I catches the probably proper amount

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of heat these days just a year and a half
and do calling plays at the NFL level. But I
think there are some things they need to talk about
they were a very undisciplined team yesterday, which was a
sign at the beginning of the year. They were overcoming
ten penalties in a win, twelve penalties and a win
eleven penalties in a win. Each of those heavy penalty

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games came in the first six when they were five
and one. This was the first heavy penalized game they've
had in two months.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And they by the way, they were also heavily penalized
in that loss to the Vikings. That did not help
them at all.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, that was definitely that was one of those games
in those first six, the lone loss there. They definitely
didn't help. You had a player that you could not
handle for some of the game. John Grenard, who had
another very big game yesterday. Now he almost has as
many sacks as Will Anderson Junior.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
He's at nine.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Will Anderson Junior got two more in his return to
the field yesterday. He's at nine and a half. And
they just went back and forth all afternoon. Anderson caught Hunter,
Hunter went ahead, Anderson went ahead, Hunter went ahead. Hunters
at ten and a half sacks now and between them
they're at twenty good signing, very good signing. Thirty to
become the first ever Texans duo. Okay, I get that.

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This week they are in an opportunity. Now we don't
know who they're playing against, a quarterback. Apparently Trevor Lawrence
is going to try to give.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
It a go.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Please please, please, please please. They're in good shape either way,
because neither of those I think both of those guys
are great. They're sackable. Will Levis is the most sackable
human walking the earth.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
How many times did they get him last year when
they folded him in half in those Boiler's jersey.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I think they got him eleven times, got Tannehill twice.
So in three games against the Titans, of the last
three games, they've sacked Titans quarterbacks twenty one time.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Here's my problem. And they're one and one, they're two
and one. Oh two and one. I guess, yeah, you
did say three games. I forgot about Tannehill. If I
can't sit right, I can't sleep well knowing that Will
Levis beat my.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Doing this to you? Your your life is your not really,
I've selecting today's show.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's okay. It was a little rocketed beginning.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
And then knowing that you're a little on edge, and
someone needles and you go further on edge. Well, that's
when I wanted to start with one other person that
could be that someone.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well, yeah, and that's when I start wanting to fracture skulls.
But I came back on to earth.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I mean, I'm far enough away.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, I won't swipe at you from here. It's it
would require me getting Oh you Fred van Vliepei point
at you. See, people can see this. I can't do
it completely because then we would lose our FCC license
on two different entities.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yes, momentarily by the way, Fred Tuesday against the Wolves,
he'll be playing.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, he'll be lighter in the wallet. Though, I just
I can't. It just doesn't sit well with me to
lose that guy. And you can tell me he's talented guy,
because he's just not good.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Like, why why so much on him? What he's a
second round pick? Because as he's just another quarterback.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
That's a big part of it, actually.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
South Or is it because people have told us he's
so good because they haven't because he isn't he has
well that's okay, like and and I do Daniel Jones
thinks he's good.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
He's teamless, well half The problem is that you're making
him look better than he is when you allow those
big plays.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
And I'm sorry, Like Jim in a game where he
made mistakes, I got a bad exchange the Texan stole
and he threw the ball to Jimmy Ward, who doesn't
play for his team.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
And Jimmy Ward's not good too. He was he made
a really great break on the ball. He caught it,
which when I saw Jalen Petrie's out, He's doubtful. He's gone,
Oh God, now we're gonna have like we're gonna have
a Jimmy Ward situation at wrest.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Jimmy Ward, if he's really taking Petree snaps, which he
did for most of the game yesterday after he left,
he's in my opinion, he's better. He hurts the team
less by playing closer to the line and taking on
some of those opportunities he's gonna he might give up receptions,
but they're probably not gonna be seventy yarders, yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Sixty yard I just it doesn't sit well with me
to lose to Will Levis at any level in any game,
no matter who I'm rooting for. Also, our fans seriously
turning on CJ will discuss next.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety Back to Adam
Clinton had Adam wexlerd The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Okay, now, there are losses in an NFL season that
regardless of where your team is at what tier they're in, Like,
for example, the Chiefs are in the upper crust of
the AFC even though they are just the worst ten
to one team I've ever seen in my life. What
it's true, I know I didn't.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I wouldn't say I bit my tongue the first time
he brought it up today.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
But isn't it getting more and more work? Like they know, Hey,
they held on to beat they care a line out.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
They had to score late on a freaking Mahomes scramble
right leading to a short field goal.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
For this, and if I have to sit here and
admit that the Texans record is probably not indicative of
who they actually are because they're worse then because they
didn't beat the Titans at home, then I'm absolutely going
to throw shade at as somebody put him in my
DNA today, cry baby Mahomes with that scramble. By the way,

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I got some advice I had Jared Goff, who slaughtered
last week in fantasy, and Patrick mahomes Hm, who should
I start? I was told start Goff. Guess what I did?
I lost because I started him.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, I'd have a hard time sitting mahomes current because
he's now in a.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
They were both playing crappy dese.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
He's scoring the touchdowns now he's different, passing touchdowns Jared
Goff every week, up and down the field, up and
down the field, and then will he get the touchdown
or will they say, well, they can't stop Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I have Montgomery too.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Well, then you're in a real bind because he rarely
throws it to him for a touchdown when you get
to double dip. The Chiefs are the best team in
the AFC. I still don't really understand even a scenario
where you could argue against it, even though the team
closest to them beat them. Buffalo, Okay, so what Handily
by the way, Yeah, thirty to twenty one beat them?

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Handling they did? Yeah, I agree, Handlely. Couldn't you hear it.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Them my voice? No, that's totally. That was why I
said that.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Could not have said it anymore clearly.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I don't know what I know what you want to
see from them, but send them to the playoffs as
the number one seed. They're gonna catch the worst winner
from opening weekend, whether that's the four, five, six, or
seven seeds.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
They're gonna have an easy path. Okay, so then they're
gonna relative, they're gonna win again. Then they're gonna go
to the conference.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Now they're they're in the conference championship game, they only
have to beat one other AFC team. Maybe it's Buffalo,
maybe it's Baltimore, maybe it's Houston. Who do you think
would have a better chance of beating favored to win
both of their home games in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
For I'm gonna forget go to the super Bowl. I'm
gonna forget that you said Houston because I almost started
laughing because that's where we're at right right.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Houston beats the Broncos. Uh not the Broncos. The yeah
Broncos could still be five Chargers, Broncos Ravens, one of
them will probably be.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
They're playing in Houston, right, They're playing in Houston. I
mean Bonnicks. You don't think Bonnicks could beat them? Bill
Levis just did. Bonnicks has been playing really, really good. Well,
letis sucks. By the way, that hasn't been said enough
in the show Will LEVI that sucks, and they're going
to play them again.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
But if the Texans in Tennessee, where they're terrible as favorites,
beat one of those three teams I mentioned, yeah, if
there isn't an upset in one of the other two games,
like if Buffalo and Pittsburgh wins as division champs, Pittsburgh
could be they could beat up they play each other, right,
and the Texans are going to Kansas City for their
first road game of this postseason. Yeah, well, listen, that's

(59:26):
very real possibility.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I'm to the point now I'm going to be in
Kansas City during that stretch where the Texans play there,
and I had planned on going. I don't think I'm
going to do that now. Why would I waste half
of my Saturday when we know what's going to happen.
I know, I know he'll be the one team that
makes them look like the twenty sixteen Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Kansas City one score games, a match made in twenty
twenty four. Heaven why because we'll find a way to
lose City road. Don't you want to go see an
exciting football game, and it's not going to be exciting
what It's going to be a one score game. It's
like I.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Want to watch Pat Mahome pick on Jimmy Ward for
three hours. Now, I'm good. I'm gonna stay at my
mother in law's house and get fat and eat and
be lazy and watching on a screen and staid where
it's not gonna be thirty below.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
It's one of their three games in eleven days, just
like it is for the Texans. They also don't have
an off week prior to that stretch the Texans do.
Texans play on the first, then they're off for two weeks.
Do you know what they do have?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Then they after a game good offensive line and the
Texans don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Probably worth getting into that a little bit more here,
while we have the opportunity which you've opened the door to.
The offensive line is showing up on film so clearly
as a unit that does not do their job as
a run blocking line. And Joe Mixon has made stuff happen,
cut back lanes, driving through holes that aren't really there,

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being patient enough to allow the defense maybe to run
themselves out of plays. And then now there's an opening
for him to burst through. But we're too far into
the season and there's too much down on film that
other teams who have really good coaches and capable players.
The Titans definitely have capable players. The strength of their team,
clearly through their first ten games was their defense, and

(01:01:07):
specifically their interior defense. And they were very good yesterday.
But they see on film that if we hold these gaps,
run into the cutback lanes and just trust that our
d lineman, our front is going to do their job,
because we know the Texans O line will not. Texans

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O line doesn't push anybody around, and in a football
sense that's literal. They do not push people down the field.
If Joe Mixon runs for five yards, there aren't four
linemen that also went five yards down the field, or
one lineman even that did that. If they've run a
play where you've got a pulling guard and Shack Mason's
coming around, well he's not gonna get to anybody. He's
not gonna run through anybody. Same for Tunsel, same for Howard.

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They're not a good run blocking line. Remember last year
they were a bet. They were okay as a pass
blocking group, and they still were a poor run blocking line.
Well now this year they're also a bad pass blocking line.
And yesterday the pass blocking was adequate, it was more
than enough to succeed, but you couldn't run the ball
at all. And they haven't figured out how to get

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both going in the right direction on the same Sunday
or Thursday or Monday or Saturday or Wednesday. And that
is still holding this team back offensively, And for the
most part, it's still the same problem. Not saying Titus
Howard is having one of his best seasons, I would
actually probably say he's having his worst, certainly as a Texan,
and Titus Howard, he's a fair offensive line. He's not

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making glaring errors and getting beat so often around the
outside that it's blowing up your offense. Who's not doing
things that say, yeah, we've got a really good player there.
He's really helping us, and we want to run behind him.
We're gonna be able to scheme offensive plays knowing that
he's going to take care of business. It's the interior line.
It's Jared Patterson. I mean, he's only had a few games,
but this one was probably his least successful one. Plus

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he had a very costly penalty. Jack Mason will have
his one or two plays where you hardly even know
he's on the field because the guy runs right past him.
And Ju Scruggs had issues like he's had almost exclusively
this year, whether he was the center or whether he's
the guard. And on top of all those things, again
the push around aspect of it. They are getting physically

(01:03:13):
beaten far too often to succeed. On top of whatever
things you see on film. I mean, the coaches could
just say, the opposing coaches could say, just push them,
just run into them. We don't need to run stunts
they do, but I'm just saying, physically speaking, the other
team is stronger than you, and it shows up over
and over and over again, and that is a big problem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
But okay, so the number one thing to do on
Mondays is either give too much blame or too much
credit to the quarterback because that's the name of the
game in the NFL. So it's becoming in vogue. I
guess to bag on CJ. Stroud in year two, and
I want to I'm going to save something that next

(01:03:54):
week's opponents fan base wrote, because I actually want to
see you last right song No but it would have
been funnier if they had done that. It's pretty funny
as it stands. You'll get a laugh out of it
because it's in the same piece. It's bagging on CJ.
Stroud and also just heaping praise upon Trevor Lawrence, which

(01:04:15):
is just hysterical. So, yeah, we're gonna see that first
special segment.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
People are dropping some heat. Yes, that hot seat under CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, Like, just I'm gonna read a couple of things
that were written something missing with the Texans a season
and after Sunday shocking loss to the Titans, they find
themselves seven to five with a couple of really bad
losses to some really bad teams. That would be the
Titans and the Jets. I'm assuming he doesn't say that,
but I'm gonna go ahead and the sooner I like
that while Stroud has not had a bad season by
any stretch, well, did just stop right there. If he
hasn't had a bad season, then you don't have to

(01:04:45):
go on with the rest of the sentence. But they
couldn't help themselves. There does seem to be some regression
this season in his performance. The offensive line has been
a mess. There have been some major injuries at wide receiver,
and offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik has not had a good year. Well,
then if those things are the case, then how much
of that is CJ. Stroud versus those are three really huge,

(01:05:07):
Like a quarter of the season has been missed by
his best player. The other guy they went out to
get is done for the year, hasn't played in several weeks.
And yeah, Bobby Slowik is like, hey, can we get uh,
can we get somebody else to call it plays? Because
he's terrible, Like you're getting these comments made. So then
on top of that, Greg Cook is calling me right now.
I have no idea why he's doing that, but I

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don't know. Stroud could stand to be better, and he
struggled again on Sunday with two more interceptions and some
off target throws that we were used to seeing him
make a year ago. By the way, that one that
one throw that he made too on the sideline to uh,
I think it was Nico, but I forget now. I
mean where he threaded the needle absolutely could have been

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picked if the defensive back.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
It was it didn't have quite enough air on it,
and the linebackero made the safety made a late break.
I thought he was gonna tip it away and just
got there. It was a really nice thrill.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It was unbelievable. Just one more thing before we go
to break the other. There was something that the athletic
did where it basically talks about pulse record versus real record.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Yeah, you watch a team play and you see their record.
We know the Texans are seven to five, We know
the Chiefs are ten and one, But if we really
tried to take the pulse of the team, Yeah, what
would their record actually be? What are we seeing and
what should their record be? Seven and five is the
actual record?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Texans are, in fact seven and five. Five and seven
is the pulse record. And I'll explain what they had
to say about that, and we'll talk about that as
it pertains to where they go from here and the
whole CJ situation. We'll do that when we come back
next here on the eight team, the A team on
Sports Talk seven ninety. Hey, it's Robert Ford from the

(01:06:49):
Astros broadcast team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Okay, so, pot stove time, is that what you're gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I can't you know what, after this weekend, if we
get the breaking news that Alex Bregman has done something
stupid like sign for whatever third base or to play
second in Seattle or some crap like that, I'm going
to lose my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Now, I do enjoy the fact that pretty much every
day since the five day window, even three days into it,
has been around so basically the end of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
The World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Almost every day the on the X platform, Bregman is trending.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
He's been attached to somebody different too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Nothing has really happened when you click on it, it's
a bunch of five day old stories or something's totally
he's consequential, But every day it's usually there. I don't
want to get into all this baseball talk now, but
it kind of seem like you're saending that way. We'll
get to it in a bit about what did change
for the Astros off season based on somebody else's signing
and with what's going on with the Rays, I don't

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think it's out of the question that they're going to
have even more games moved. They announced today to in
an effort to play fewer early season rain likely home games,
at George stein Berner Field.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I mean it rains in Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Yeah, they're gonna flip flop some of their home dates
to later in the year with the teams that they
happen to be playing, so probably doesn't affect Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
It's only right that Houston offers their facilities to the
Rays because we know that the Rangers won't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Yeah, depending on what the schedule is. It honestly would
make perfect sense. If you know, let's say there's a
series on the road with the Rangers, a series on
the road with a team that's not on the coast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Why wouldn't the Rangers let them use that stadium right
next door that nobody's using. It's for baseball? Seriously, how
many MLB quality stadiums are there just laying dormant? Don't
say the astrodom.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Now, Major League Baseball has played a bunch of games
with no fans there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
We saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Yeah, but if they're playing games there on days where
there isn't a game for the Rangers, or on a
day where there is no I'm talking about the one
next door, right, what's the attendance at their games?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Oh, that would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Well, because what do you selling tickets for like, at
what cost? Everybody gets in for five bucks? Uh? Sure,
for ten bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
You can also eat five dollars tickets in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Street though, to get your food because they don't want
to open up all the concessions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Still, I ask you a question, But here's the deal.
Five dollars tickets in Arlington for a raise game still
probably generates more for the Rays than a home game
at a regularly non damaged Tropicicana Field.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
And are the people coming to see the game cheering
the opponents every night?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Depends on what it's happening to the Rangers. I mean,
are the Rangers hot out of the gate? Did a
doola start cycling again? Like, what's the deal?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Like, do you go to the Rangers game expecting to
buy a ticket?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Off? They're sold out? That's so quick, go next door.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
We got a game next door Raisin Royals.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Honestly, what's who's to say the Rays don't have a
better record at that time? Anyways, they will, they're a
better team. So anyways, back to the Texans and all
the lamenting this this pulse thing. It's like a pulse
record that the athletic did where it's basically, here's your
real record, and then here's your pulse record, as in, oh,
we've read the tea leaves and we're gonna give you

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know what they really are right now. Like, for example,
the Eagles nine and two, pulse record nine and two,
same with the Lions. Actually, the Lions that not have
you losing sleep last night?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
The Eagles game, Uh two seventy yard touchdown runs for
Suon Barkley.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Okay, would Saquon Barkley have done anything against that Titans
defensive line yesterday, then it doesn't really matter. Plus they're
in the NFC, so it doesn't bother me as much.
The Lions actual record ten and one, Pulse records eleven
and oh, I absolutely agree with that. And you know
what else they said, let's be brief, this is the
best team in the NFL. Yeah. I've been saying that forever.
I've been saying that before it was in vogue to
say it, and everybody's doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Everybody's doing Yeah, nine consecutive wins after yesterday's game and
Chiefs go ahead. They've also, I know, they've only played
Jacksonville in Indy the last two weeks. They've given up
six points in each game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, you can talk about all they should have scored
fifty again, why they didn't need to. They won very comfortably.
So here's where this gets interesting. Here's where it kind
of applies. The Chief's actual record, as we all know,
is ten and one. They have their pulse record at
seven and four, and that's probably being generous. How many
one run or one run? How many one score games

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have the Chiefs won to get to ten and one
this year? We know I won for sure eight. So
eight of their ten wins, that's like Texans territory, only
they went all of them except for the one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
New Orleans twenty six thirteen they beat the Niners twenty
eight to eighteen. All of their other wins are one
score games.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They say, if this wasn't Patrick Mahomes, I'd be spray
painting fraud in all caps on the walls of the
team facility.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
And that's why I'm on the other side of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
You sound almost like Danny Canell. Hey, if you took
Pat Mahomes off the Kansas City Chiefs, they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Wouldn't be very good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
No kidding, Dan, you can't. He's on the team, he's
not hurt I'm gonna call.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
It Dan Kale from here on out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Tell me you don't feel this way. He's playing against
Josh Allen, he's playing against Joe Burrow, He's playing against
those respective teams.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
It doesn't matter. I don't think it matters.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Thirty one other teams, thirty one other defenses, thirty one
other quarterbacks, thirty one other head coaches. Five minutes left,
one score game. Who's winning? Pat Mahomes, here's the deal.
And Andy Reid and the Chiefs and their defense, and
that's why they keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yeah, they did the forty nine ers, which I don't
I mean whatever, they're not good. Well, their actual record
is five and six and their pulse record is five
and six, so they're not good. Hey, just they're just
not good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
They don't play well offensively. They have very few explosive
plays these days. And Christian McCaffrey just looks like he's
been hurt half the year. And I think if you
were watching some of their game, or if you're not
going back to watch some of his snaps, like, where's
he supposed to go?

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Right? There?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
There was?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I mean, he's Joe Mixon yesterday. Where's he supposed to go.
There's just there's nothing. There wasn't anything there. Did you
think that Joe probably should have run to the outside
a bit more, could have he could have gotten something
going if he did that, as opposed to right into
the teeth of that line.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Because that's what they did against the Lions. I kept saying,
why do you keep doing that? You're just running into
more linebackers and safeties and you're going down. They just
they ran up against a defense that was extremely well
prepared for what the Texans do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Defelt for what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Yeah, and this is about the fifth time in an
hour and forty minutes I've said that, Well, there's two
sets of coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Staffs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Coach or don't go into the game expecting the other
team not to look at film. They know what you're
going to do, and then you do it and it
works for them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Actual record seven and five, And this is all, of
course after these week's games, pulse record five and seven.
This is what they wrote. They basically walked around in
my brain and then wrote a paragraph. If this crew
played in a different division, we'd be talking about a
failed season right now, a notion bolstered by yesterday's thirty

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two to twenty seven loss to the lowly Titans. Houston
entered the year as a dark horse title favorite and
has largely fallen flat. Yes, the Texans will win the
crappy AFC South. I put the crappy in and make
the playoffs. But unless something changes, it's an early exit.
And I would say, and I've said it already this
year before yesterday's game, Joe Flacco and the Cleveland Browns

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aren't walking through that door for you to beat up
on in the opening round. You're gonna play a real team.
And if it's Bo Nicks, I'm picking them right now,
even in Houston. Why wouldn't I?

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Yeah, right now? And I was thinking about that as
you were talking. It's a perfect way to go Bo Nicks,
Lamar Jackson, Bo Nicks and the Broncos, Lamar Jackson and
the Ravens, Justin Herbert and the Chargers, Tua and the Dolphins,
who now are right on the cusp of that last
playoff spot in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Those teams are all playing good football right now, and
the Texans aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
The Texans aren't, you know, obviously the top three teams,
the three division leaders, they're clearly better than the Texans,
even though you beat Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Weeks by the way to go just real quick, you
know what's worse about this? In recent weeks, like the
Lions game, you could say, well, we're fooling ourselves, but
at least it was a really good team, Dany. You
can't say that about yesterday, and they can't say that
about the Jets game. Look at what's happened to the
Jets since then, including a loss to the freaking Coal Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
They don't have any wins in two months other than
the game against the Texans. The Texans have played good
enough football to have a chance to win essentially every
time they've been out there. The thirty four to seven
loss is the only one that stands out. It's the
only game they haven't really had a chance to win.
They don't blow people away, they don't dominate, they aren't

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as explosive as they well basically in this game as.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
The other team was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
The specifics of it we really haven't gotten into, especially
with CJ. Stroud, and I think it's time for to
do that. Some of the things from a CJ only
perspective that aren't quite right, that aren't as we've seen
as an NFL player, even as a college player, that
are now unfortunately keeping the Texans from maybe stealing a
win or two while still not playing well.

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Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Well, it's been nearly two hours of the A Team
and we haven't heard from CJ. Stroud yet. We've heard
from Demico Ryans and we all kind of know some
of the things that these guys have said, but but
you know, in the uh, in the spirit of full disclosure,
and wex talked about this earlier in the show. CJ's
probably taking on an inordinate amount of blame for yesterday's

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loss and for just the season in general. And I
told you about how you know people are they're starting
to sour on CJ. Stroud. Not maybe so much locally,
although I am seeing that a little bit just on
Twitter and whatnot, but you know, national types, pundits whatever. Again,
like I mentioned during the broadcast yesterday, and I think
I can't remember if it was Ross, Ross Tucker or

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Jay Feely that had said this, but it just it
wasn't a shot at him, but it was just pointing
out the obvious that it's year two teams have film
on you, and in addition to that you have the
offensive line woes and that kind of stuff. It can
just all come combine to be a perfect storm that says,
you know what, You're not going to have this otherworldly

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year like you did your rookie season. But as it
pertains to CJ himself and getting up in front of
the media and talking about what happened yesterday. Uh, for example,
he said, you know what these second half issues we
keep having, can't score touchdowns that aren't of the defensive variety. Uh,
you need to blame all that on me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
You can point a lot of places, but I always
pointed myself. You know, I'm the leader of the offense.
I gotta get his rolling, get our rhythm, you know,
and you know, you know we got to find a
better way to end the first half better, start the
second half better. And you know that's ultimately starts with
me and you know, taking care of the football and
you know, getting into a rhythm, run the ball, well,

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getting us into the right reads right. Look, So me,
I would just say that's why. I mean, that's how
we're gonna get better. It's just I gotta be better.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
But he's talking about getting into the run game. They
never got into that run game. And part of the
reason Will Levis looked, like you know, Joe Namath was
because Tony Pollard was doing whatever he wanted. If Joe
Mixon was doing that, don't you think that at least
there'd be a little less pressure on CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
I know the answer, I'm supposed to give just say yes,
but I don't mean it. Why don't you Because I've
been pointing this out all year long. They've run the
ball well almost all year when he's been healthy. It
just has an impact on how their offense works.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
You know what at as you know what's crazy to
say speaking of things you don't believe. Huh, I would
I would venture to say that for other other than
a couple or really one explosive play, maybe a couple
that I'm forgetting. Joe Mixon didn't have like this huge,
awesome running They didn't have a running attack that was
awesome against the Cowboys a week ago. They just had

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opportunistic place.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, maybe it's best described like they're not very He
had a forty five yard run to open the game
and then he struggled to do a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
But he's he took them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
You would think it's taking the pressure off the passing
game and the offensive line and slowing down the rush
when you're able to hand them the ball another nineteen
twenty twenty four times in a game that was you
know whatever number carry that was yesterday, they weren't able
to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
That's and against the lines we kept saying, why do
they keep giving him the wall? You still have to
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
You're not gonna drop back twenty five straight times in
a game that's a one score game. You're just not
even yesterday, although they should have late.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
And like one of CJ's picks was on Mechi, it
wasn't on him. He stopped. That's why is it Mechi's fault? Well,
he didn't run the route. How do you know Mechi
ran the wrong route? I just do no. I mean
it's a miscommunication.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Maybe CJ thought that's what he was supposed to look at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
That play wrong. But okay, maybe let's.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Hear what CJ said about it. This is cut number one.
This is one of the very, very first things he
had to say because he was asked about the two interceptions,
this one being the first, and it was a first
of all, what are you doing? Come on, it's seventeen seventeen,
there's thirty seven seconds left. You're eighty yards away from
the end zone, thirty forty yards away from a field goal.
Just come on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
But nonetheless, he talked about his two interceptions.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
The first one didn't really really see match, trying to
put it in a window and you know, we just
weren't on the same page and can't do that right there.
You know, that's given him points which ultimately led us
to lose. And then the second one just got to
put a little higher if I get it to him.
Nicola has a lot of space to run, So not

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just two mistakes that I made that can't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
So it sounds like he's saying it was his fault
in that first one. I don't believe him.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeah, that's definitely a cloudy situation there. They definitely weren't
on the same page. We've established that, and he just
acknowledged that. Whether he's telling the truth, I don't know,
but I do think that's a very accurate assessment of
what took place there. Because Mechi runs his route and
he sets down, he settles in this is where I'm
throwing me the ball. I'm right here, And his description
is I tried to put it in a window, meaning

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and he said I couldn't really see him. I know
where he's supposed to be. In my mind, one of
them was right and one of them was wrong. That's
a miscommunication. That is why he said it that way.
And at that point in the game, it's such a
quick play. I'm not sure that CJ even has the
real option of well, I better not throw it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
He's having us believe that he didn't see him, even
though the flow the throw is completely accurate if Mechi
had kept going right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
But you could say that about so many throws when
we say, well, why, why do you think that? Because
the receivers running the play, he thinks he's supposed to run,
and maybe he's right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
If it were a deep throw, I think I would
give more wiggle room. This just looked like Mechi stopped.
They even said it on the television broadcast. Why did
he stop that route? I mean, they don't know any
more than I do. But its just if you look
at the play with your eyes right, but it doesn't
look like that was on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Answer that question, why did he stop the route? Because
that's what he was thought he was supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
What he's just doing it standpoint, It was a it
was a miscommunication of the actual play.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah, where you know, did CJ call out the wrong player?
Did Mechi just literally he ran the wrong play or
he did the wrong thing? You know, probably more likely
the latter than the former. The second interception, which is
also a huge mistake. He he, I think he very accurately.
It's definitely the way I saw it. He had Nico
in space and there was going to be a ton

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of space. He just didn't put He didn't put it
up high enough to get it over the leaping linebacker.
Kenneth Murray made a really nice play on the ball.
But those two plays, in particular, his dirt ball to
Nico Collins on third down, his missing Joe Mixon as
he ran to a little sideline route and he puts
it five feet away from him or he can't even
get his hand on it. There's probably four or five

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other throws we could mentioned yesterday. Those are what we
we're you know, the pulse you just read. Not the
same player he was last year. These were in his sleep.
I didn't expect it as a rookie, but these were
throws he made in his sleep on target, catch and
run right where it's supposed to. Even the two deep
balls that were completions. Did he underthrow Nico Collins slightly? Yes,

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it's a touchdown if he doesn't. Did he put the
ball not far enough out in front of Tank Dell,
who could have caught it and then turned up the
sideline and scored a touchdown. He had to slow down,
which meant he caught it and then had to stop
completely brilliantly to try to put a spin move on
the defensive He had beaten him. In both cases, his
receiver was behind the defense without safety, there's no way

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of safety's going to make a play on the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
And those throws weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Quite as awesome as so many of his others. You know,
the end of the season Nico catch against Indy, the
catch that hurt Nico Collins earlier this year. Those balls
were perfectly thrown. Go your receivers out front, throw it
out front. Throws that Mattshaw basically couldn't ever make where
Andre Johnson would have five yards on the guy or
eight yards on the guy, or ten yards on the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Or it went to Richard Sherman, or.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Then he would wait and wait and stop, and then
he would catch it immediately get tackled. It's just those
the big plays right there. You've everybody's executed perfectly. Now
more's on the quarterback and it's a little unfair. It's
good enough that he caught it, he made it enough
of a play, but we're we're asking.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
For you, looks at and thinks, oh my gosh, I
would have killed with this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Guy, considering Nico Collins putting up as good or better
numbers than he ever did. Yeah, I bet you he is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
That's brutal. That's absolutely brutal. More brutality. Not really, but
we will discuss h I've got some really really bad
news for you Texans fans, and it has nothing to
do with the football. That's right. I'm gonna pile on
to start the four o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Next the A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
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Speaker 7 (01:25:59):
Hey, halfway in to a Monday edition of the A
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Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Non victory Monday. It was fun saying that for a
long long time, and now we just don't really get
to say it all that much. In fact, even when
they win, we don't get to because it was a
victory Tuesday last week. I didn't get all excited about
a win over a terrible Dallas Cowboys team, and I
wouldn't have gotten excited over a win over a terrible
Titans team yesterday. But the Texans didn't even cooperate enough
to do that, and so we're lamenting that. Thirty two

(01:26:35):
to twenty seven. The final lots of blame to go around.
We've heard from Demiico, We've heard from CJ. We'll hear
from them again, and we'll get some more layers of this.
Here's the thing. I have been accused of being a
lot of things. Wex You know, the at this point,
you know, all the monikers, Internet, troll, potster, you know,
lots of different things. This is not me doing that,

(01:26:58):
but it's gonna seem that way. So I think, actually
fairly recently I said something to you about this. I said, look,
we're coming up on twenty five years of the Texans
being a thing and so their stadium being a thing,
and how all that happened, and the fact that it
came in the same you know, five year span that

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both the Rockets and the Astros also had facilities built
now the Rockets in the Astros with Toyota Center and
Minute Made Park now Daikan Park by the way, and
it was in around the field at the time. Just
for the sake of being transparent, those were those were
funded differently than NRG Stadium, and any sort of repairs,

(01:27:46):
upgrades maintenance would would also be funded differently, in that
the owners of the two teams that play basketball and
baseball are basically responsible for those, whereas the county is
responsible to upgrades for NRG Stadium. And if you haven't
read the article on the Chronicle about this topic, I

(01:28:07):
highly highly recommend it because it's leading to what I
think is going to eventually happen here. The Texans are
going to ask for a new stadium sooner rather than later. Now,
I don't think it's going to be like next week
or even next year. But the whole premise of this
article is about the scoreboards being out of date in

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that they can't even get the parts to replace him
if something goes wrong for them, And that leads to
a bigger discussion, which is that they need like millions
and millions of dollars in upgrades to NRG Stadium because
of just wear and tear. And when you get to
the crux of all this, or the gist of it all,
that's what I think is going to happen. And then
you put the Rodeo in there. And I was texting

(01:28:49):
with somebody we both know earlier, and he essentially said
the Rodeo probably would just as soon leave the premises
and build their own place, like either say down on
the way on two eighty eight where they own land,
or maybe out west at a different location, so they
can just do whatever they want year round and not
even be involved. This is I think it's a prediction.

(01:29:11):
It's nothing I know, but I feel like that that's
where this is all leading we're gonna have another Oilers
situation on our hands.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
No, you know, there's a couple of different things you
could be leading. So you are you saying that we
will ultimately see a venue for the Rodeo exclusively, and
I think it's saying you for the football team and
soccer events and other events and bowl games, et cetera,
two different venues.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Is that what you're getting at. I think that it's
definitely a possibility. I think if if the Rodeo had
the Rodeo, the powers that be at the Rodeo had
truth serum injected into them, that's what they would say.
I really do think that. And because then it's just
they could do what they want year round. They can
do it how they want it. There's no fifty to

(01:29:56):
fifty or sixty forty or whatever. I'd be fine with it.
By the way. It is, hell and back getting in
and out of there for the cookoff, just saying I
mean every time I go, not a good enough reason
for no new venue. No, No, they're definitely Look they're
both making money hand over fist, which is ultimately going
to be the thing that the taxpayers are going to say,
uh No, plus what you're going to say the Texans,

(01:30:18):
You've never want anything in this place? Why should we
give you a new place? That is that truly a factor?

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
You think?

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Uh, if they're being asked to put the bill? Yeah,
how many people who wire? People going to games?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
And obviously at Texans games, we're not talking about selling
out the games, no matter what the numbers are there
and are when we discuss it, we're trying to give you, Well,
who's really at the game? I do believe all the
tickets are still sold, but clearly people aren't all at
the game. I'm not going to get into wired fans
here because we can if you want. I don't want
to because I think I already know the answer. In
the parking lot, everybody knows the well, they're not in them.

(01:30:50):
That's I got it. That was a joke, I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
That's what the hob you believe.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
There's a bunch of different factors there, but my point is,
like they are, they're winning and losing is a huge
factor for what you're giving to this team, what you're
giving to the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
But fans are gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
This team could not have asked them any more loudly
to be embarrassed by them for three consecutive years, and
the Astros essentially did the same for a longer period
of time. And then you win and they're fine if
they do somewhat recognize I think this is sports. It's
gonna happen. There's ebbs and flows and what they're doing.

(01:31:31):
Even now, whether they're disappointing people in twenty twenty four
so far, they're still they're entertaining you. It's the biggest deal.
You go to work on Monday dreaming of, oh my god,
can I please, can Sunday get here sooner?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
I want to go to the game. I want to
watch the game. I want to travel to the game.
I want to go to somewhere with friends who watch
the game. I got a backyard barbecue going, Like it
matters to people, even if they're putting up nine and
eight seasons and five and twelve seasons, and like, look
at these franchises we mock all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Texans did it for three years.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
These other franchises, I mean, the Jets haven't been of
the postseason in forever, and Cleveland by and large, Yeah,
their fans aren't going anywhere now. They're not maybe as
much invested as many people as invested. But if you
want a new stadium, you don't want what's the alternative.
This city has seen the alternative your team leaves, minor miracle,

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you got a new team. It's for Houston to have
been that city that got their team got a team
back in the NFL. I do believe it's a minor miracle.
You don't want to see it happen again. And I
don't think the Texans are anywhere near doing that. And
the family that owns the team a little bit like
the family that owned the previous team that now comes
to the town in Oilers Gear Bud Adams family, like

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the McNair's, have known one NFL city. They specifically sought
out to bring a team to the NFL. I mean,
how bad would things have to be from a stadium standpoint,
from a revenue sharing standpoint, from a revenue generating standpoint.
They even get to the threat the point of a
and time of threatening to move, where threatening to need

(01:33:04):
a new stadium is step one? Yeah, because if there's
pushback and there's you know, money prou actually there's voting problems.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Step one is actually masking that real demand with we
need to upgrade the stadium. Well, what do you want
to do?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Do you want to put thirty five to fifty million
for scoreboards and some other upgrades here in twenty twenty
six or do you want to put a billion dollars
seven hundred million. I don't know what the cost is
going to be for this best new palace ever, which
is what they're going to build in twenty twenty eight
or twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Yeah, I think that. Well, first of all, here's what
I think about the the actual would this or would
this not happen to begin with? I think first of all,
ask yourself who's responsible for this renaissance of their portrayal
in the public eyes? And I know the easy answer
is to Miika Ryans and CJ. Stroud? Yes, But who

(01:33:55):
in ownership is responsible for this? Who has made change?
Is that seems like the fan base was asking for
from day one, and the way they go about doing
business every day and just some of the just regular
day to day things. That's Hannah, right. You don't think
Hannah wants her new playpen. You don't think that that's
going to be a whisper that grows louder and louder

(01:34:18):
as we get further and further away from two thousand
and two's construction completion.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
You like your new house, right, Yeah? Most of the
time like decorating it. You kind of fortunate earlier today
you buy a house and maybe you get with the
builder and you say, well, these are some of the
upgrades we'd like, or I saw a house that had this.
I mean, that's literally what's going to happen. She's been
to all the other stadium or most of the other
stadiums by now, what do they have?

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
What do we need?

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
You know, what can we do for our fans to
make it a better experience. What areas of the stadium
could we upgrade from how much revenue we can generate
from putting this suite this low and these eight suites
field side, which I mean they could. They could kill
a bunch of seats and do that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I think she looks at Los Angeles, knowing that it's
Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
I might add, we're going to get a man made
lake outside the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Well, I'm like, if you're building so far for admittedly
the most entertainment centric driven market in the NFL, where
fan attendance has been lackluster through the years every time
they've tried this experiment. I don't This is probably the
best version of it, but what's a big part of that.
Sofi Stadium's a freak show. And by that, I mean

(01:35:25):
it's just it's the best stadium in the NFL by
all accounts. I haven't been there. I've been to Jerry World.
I've been there. It's pretty awesome. I mean it does
it blow Jerry World away?

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Yes, it just says it does have a California vibe
with what they did with the roof, with the setting
of the stadium and where they put it and what
they put around it. I mean, remember when they have
had a couple of events there where we've seen what
it looks like from an event standpoint outside the stadium
and inside the stadium. It is awesome, and the technology
behind it is extremely advanced, like it should be. And

(01:35:58):
the other thing that a new stadium gets you in
your city, it's a guaranteed super Bowl. It should every
new stadium. I mean, I'm amazed how often they go
back to these older cities with older buildings, over and
over and over.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans. At least Miami has
a new stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
So Houston builds a new stadium and the Texans open
it up in twenty thirty, so they have the super
Bowl in the first available They get it in twenty
thirty five. Wouldn't they also get it again in twenty
forty one or twenty forty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
I mean, I'm amazing he've gotten two here in twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Right, But the first time they built a new stadium, well,
they got it in two thousand. I think it was
the first available super Bowl. Yep, you know, it opened
for football in two thousand and two and there was
a super Bowl being played there in two thousand and four.
It a second minor miracle that they got the second
Super Bowl with how old Kevin Juberler Stadium was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
And it was a great super Bowl too, unless you're
a Falcons fan.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
He was part of the Super Bowl, very important part
of the super Bowl host committee. It was it was
it really. I mean, the gate it's funny, you know,
have anything to do with what you actually get for
the football.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Both games have been great. We're awesome. Jake de Loom
leading the Patriot or leading the Panthers to a competitive
game against the Patriots before Adam Vinitari did Adam Vinitari
things and you had an FBI investigation. Yeah, they stole
his jersey and took it to Mexico. Unbelievable. Yeah, well,
the Falcons would probably like an FBI investigation too as
to how they can blow that lead. But yeah, and

(01:37:23):
by the way, here's the other part of this that
no one's talking about. Cal can't ask for a new stadium,
No way, that wouldn't go over very well. Uh, Hannah,
can you handle this? These people are intimidating. No way
he could ask for a new stadium. But they're gonna
do it, I promise.

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Wesler continue continue on Sports Talk seven ninety Goes Up.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Stars Rockets Basketball lives here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
It is the a team Sports Talk seven ninety Space
City Home Network. You know, when the Astros aren't playing
and sometimes when they are, the Rockets also play games,
and you hear them and see them on both of
those entities I just mentioned. And we were both in
attendance on Saturday night. Wex was working and getting paid.
I was bringing my family to a game in which, well,

(01:38:59):
it's these days I'm starting to wonder if if Carson
might have to kind of like scale back a little
bit on his sporting events. He's in this phase where like, oh,
it's too loud. I'm like, are you doing this right now?
And then Teresa will go, I'm sorry, that's my fault.
He gets like her traits as far as that kind
of thing goes, So he blames it on anxiety. He
doesn't like.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Going to events at a huge stadium or arena that
gets loud, and he gets that from her that he
doesn't like it. I thought she liked going to huge
events at stadiums that were loud.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Well, once she became an adult, she did.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to try and
trink him on the air here. Yeah, probably best at home,
but I'm probably not gonna do it there either. This
is too much time. I was in attendance, but we
left early because I had to host the local postgame show. Yeah,
Rockets rap, Yeah, Rockets rap, and we wrap things up.

(01:39:55):
Big topic of discussion was the early exit by a
few said seconds of Fred van Vliet, who again admittedly,
and he may said this in the post game, he
was trying to catch a foul. Now, if you paid
attention to how the three officials were calling fouls in
that game, if you breathed on Ann Fornee Simons, it

(01:40:16):
was probably a whistle. But Fred didn't get the call,
whether you thought he should or not. I thought he
got bumped, but it wouldn't have been a shooting foul
according to the officials after the game and in the
last two minutes report, I think it was confirmed. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
After the game, Jonathan Fagan was the media representative for
the Pool Report and Courtney Kirkland said, after video review,
we did think it should have been a foul. He
was bumped, but it would not have been a shooting foul.
They were down three at the time. They would have
just been inbounding the basketball. It doesn't mean they got
the call right. They acknowledged they got it wrong, and
the L two m said the same.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Fred thought that they had gotten it wrong too, but
he was much more demonstrative. Well, he got he.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Thought they got the call wrong when he fired up
a three pointer when he felt the contact and obviously
it was really really far off.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Real quick, by the way, you know how I knew
he was going to do what he did before he
ever even did it. After that, he goes over to
the bench, he untucked his jersey. He was done mentally,
he was already finished with those three guys.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Yeah, a four point game is what they were looking
at after that, a two possession game. When the Rockets
got the ball back and a chance to inbound it,
he had too many Kamara on him, who had been
on them all game, and he just basically shoved him
to the court, tried to run right through him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Knew he was wearing him all game. He was smart.
He was smart.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
I mentioned it pretty much throughout the broadcast because it
was very noticeable that they put the long, lanky athletic
much bigger. They put him on the ball pretty much
all night. When Fred went at the bench, he was
getting in him men, he was getting in jail. He
was trying to prevent the Rockets from getting into their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Almost like Chauncey Billups was his coach.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
We're still waiting for the I said, Texans Rockets to
get into their offense. So their worst shooting game of
the season, and it looked like it, but it was.
It could have been anybody. He would have fouled whoever was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Disliding him there. Shingoon got the ball on the post.
There's now a sec on the shot clock.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Yep, exactly right, and so he pushed through Kamar. They
did call him for the foul. He went over to
each individual referee, pointed at them and had some language
for them that was deemed worthy of a season's greetings.
Fifty thousand dollars. Fine, but he was not suspended. And
that's why I said earlier, he'll be on the court
for the Rockets barring health, and he's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Hang on, can you hear this? That's me patting myself
on the back because on the Rockets rap postgame show,
I said, he's not going to get suspended for this.
He didn't make contact. He's going to get fined a
lot of money, and he'll be in the lineup on Tuesday.
There's exact words I said, give or take. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
The words that were said by the two of us
MT and myself were the opposite. I thought he was
going to get a suspension because he was so demonstrative
to the game officials. The language clearly was going to
get him, get him a fine. I just I thought
it would be more. And he did not get two technicals.
It was one of those you were so bad, we're
just you're gone. Yeah, So he didn't get suspended. I

(01:42:55):
think that's what fans care about. And I think his
plus million dollar contract can support the fifty thousand dollars fine.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
I mean don't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
I don't even honestly think it was a terribly poorly
officiated game. I did think one of the reasons why
the Rockets offense struggled so much in the second half
when they were trying to run through shngon Is. When
Klean went to the bench, they put Oddiya on him.
A smaller player, strong player, but a smaller player, and
they allowed him to play that way. He was super
physical with Alpi. He had his hands all over him.

(01:43:26):
He was bodying him, he had his hands around him.
I thought those fouls just simply stopped being called when
they existed, and it definitely impacted the way the Rockets
were playing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Dylan Brooks does that defensively to other teams.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
But I'm not going to say that they missed every
shot for an entire ballgame. It's it's crazy that they
took the lead light after playing the way that they did.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
They just they just couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
It was one of those nights, even for a team
that shoots poorly, and they're a poor shooting team. They've
only had one other game where they've shot under forty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
That was the opener. You so lost that game. You
beat the Portland Trailblazers one sixteen to eighty eight on
fre night like you should have. You beat him like
a drum and then within a twenty four hour period,
you allow the Blazers and the Titans to beat your
basketball and football teams respectively. That is just I said
three and zero, they went one and two.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Yeah, the Blazers four most important players aren't awesome to
begin with, but they all played almost invisibly on Friday night.
Klingon got in foul trouble, Simons was a non factor,
Grant barely barely did anything.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
They made adjustments.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Well, and Shadon Sharp he was just out the next night.
All four of them played extremely impactful basketball. You know.
Klingon almost had a twenty rebound, zero point game, and
he was hurt during the game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
It's like a Rodman dream.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
Simons had a fifteen point fourth quarter. Grant had a
twenty point first half.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Jeremy Grant's been beating the Rockets since he was an
OKC gear.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
Yeah, so it's that's definitely one of their eighteen they'd
like to have back. There's such a winnable game, such
a team that shouldn't be on the court with you
with what they have. Impressed by how hard some of
these lesser talented teams have played early in the season.
Pistons are probably another one is there now seven and eleven,
the Blazers were six and nine coming to town. They're
seven and ten. The Rockets aren't them anymore, which is

(01:45:10):
good news that they should go out and win games.
They are still twelve and six through eighteen games. They
will clinch a spot in the knockout round and advance
in the NBA Cup. If they went on Tuesday night
Tomorrow night on the road in Minnesota, the Rockets would
move to three and zero in their group. The only
other teams with one loss with one game remaining would
be the team two of the teams they've beaten. Thus

(01:45:33):
they would clinch. All it does is get them an
extra game for now, but if they win that game,
they'd go to Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
So you're feeling good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I am feeling good about advancing, but it also means
they're winning. I mean, the NBA Cup is what it is.
You've got two NBA Cup wins, Well, you'd be ten
and six, or excuse me, you'd be ten and eight
without them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
They're twelve and six. That's much more important. And you know,
emy Udoka, it's funny. I can't help but see the
parallels because both of these two franchises began their rebuilds
right around the same time. It's easier to rebuild. It's
faster to rebuild, I would think in some senses in
the NFL, provided you get a franchise quarterback exactly. Otherwise,
it's probably faster to do it in the NBA, provided

(01:46:13):
you get a really good player or two in the draft.
You know what's funny that Rockets got the top three picks,
give or take, in like consecutive years. They were picking
at or near the top of the draft, in the
top three, and the two guys that they picked in
those top three have by and large disappointed relative to

(01:46:36):
where they were taken. Yet later picks in those drafts
have not at all. Tarry Eason and Alprinching Gooon, those
are in the teams and they're like, you're I mean,
Tari's the best guy off the bench not named HIMN
Thompson and Alprinching Goon is, for all intents and purposes,
your franchise cornerstone right now. Whether you want to admit

(01:46:58):
it or not or think that that's too extreme, but
that's who there. That's who they run the offense through
more often than not.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Yeah, four consecutive years with a pick in the top four.
Jalen Jabari A men and Reed Shepard this year three
picks additionally in the top twenty. This year, they didn't
have a top twenty pick, but those three additional players
the Rio Grand Valley Vipers best player, Cam Witmore, Tarry Easton,
and Sam Presty's draft pick Alper and Shangoon.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
There's already trade worked out. It cannot help, but dig
at Sam Presty whenever you get a chance to love it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
They did actually have two other first round picks that year,
neither of them are still Rockets, Suspan Garuba and Josh Christopher,
but that trade was already in the works. The player
was drafted specifically because it's who the Rockets pulled the
trigger on the deal for them to draft for them.
But yeah, I don't think there's any question about it,
and you could you know, you're gonna look back at
those drafts really for what happened at the top. I

(01:47:50):
don't think that the Rockets made a mistake, so to speak.
In twenty twenty two, they took Jabari Smith with the
number three pick. Both players draft ahead of him or better,
they weren't on the board for the Rockets. I mean,
maybe they could have orchestrated a deal but I don't
know that they thought they needed to, and I'm not
sure who else beyond that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Later on in the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
It's gonna prove to be significantly better than Jabari Smith Junior.
Jalen Williams is probably one of the first people that
comes to mind. He's been really, really good. Shad and Sharp,
who we were just talking about, is another one of
those players. But you know, by and large, I don't
know that there's a superstar that you missed when you
had the third pick. The two guys that are the
better players that were both off the board. Now the
twenty twenty one draft is a little bit different. I

(01:48:32):
think Cad Cunningham was probably the right pick. I think
the Rockets would have taken Kid at one if they
had one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Evan Mobley's really good. He went the next pick.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
That's it. That's your draft. They're not anything. There's nobody else.
I know, people like Scottie Barnes and I told Toronto
was happy to be paying them a billion dollars to
lose every game. But that's all there was left. That
they picked one, Cleveland got the other. Probably the better
players in Cleveland. But Jalen's not a good player.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
But everybody does that. It's insane. All right. We will
continue here with our signature segment, the Good, the Bad,
and the Ugly from the Texans game coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Now the good, good, the bad that's not good, and
the ugly.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
That's getting real ugly with.

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
The A Team, not too difficult to go through each
of these, although we probably don't need a good because
they did not win, but there were some good things, good, bad,
and the ugly. Our signature segment that kicks off the
week here on the A Team on Sports Talk seven
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(01:49:59):
Talk seven nine. The iHeartRadio app available to you for free.
I'll take the good, Dan, I'll have the bad. Wex
here in ac you got the ugly. I'll just stick
with danil Hunter because he sure likes to get after quarterbacks.
He already led the league in pressures and that will
not change after this week. He is almost the NFL

(01:50:21):
leader in sacks now after a three sack game, included
three more quarterback hits and also had five TFLs. He
was phenomenal. It's what you go out and sign a
guy to do, and he's gone out there and done it.
He's been out there all season. He's been anchoring that defense.
Texans pretty clearly had a plan for Will Anderson Junior
in the game. He did not start a lot of drives,

(01:50:44):
but would come in on pass rushing downs. Still had
a good number of snaps and he was super impactful
a lot of the plays where his teammates got six
of the other sacks because Anderson and Junior had two
he was on the field for. He actually shoved Will
lev Or. He shoved a lineman into Levis, which then
ultimately ended up in a sack for a teammate. He

(01:51:04):
had a great game. But Daniel Hunter has been phenomenal
from jump.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
And he looks the part.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
He is chasing down quarterbacks when that's needed. He's bringing
down quarterbacks now a lot more regularly at this point
in the season than he was at the beginning of
the season. It's still hard to believe they did what
they did, and Levis was essentially unfhazed, completing his first
eleven passes, going eighteen of twenty four. I know he
had the pick six and he fumbled in exchange with Pollard.

(01:51:30):
Both obviously were turnovers takeaways for the Texans. But you
go out and you spend almost fifty million dollars over
two seasons for daneel Hunter. He's done what you hoped
and then some. At this rate, he will be the
NFL's sack leader and he will potentially lead the NFL
and tackles for loss. This is a good defense. They

(01:51:52):
did not have a good day, but the good was
his day. He was a beast.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Imagine having eight sacks in a pick six and saying
they have a good day. And I'm saying it, but
it's it's it's accurate because nobody had a good day yesterday.
It was all ugly. This should have been the ugly,
the ugly and the ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
I mean, essentially, once twelve oh one hit yesterday, it
delivered it's ugly material.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Even though they scored like one second later, A right
the bad Dan.

Speaker 8 (01:52:17):
I was gonna say, good lucky for you, Ac, We've
got a bevy of issues that you're gonna be able
to choose from, but I'll just make it simple. Special
teams was horrific yesterday. It was not great from Kyami Fairbairn. Yes,
he does make a fifty plus yarder, but he misses
a chip shot. Then you have people who can't either
stop holding or being out of control and getting an

(01:52:38):
unnecessary roughness that then puts you back at the eight
yard line. Then you get sacked, and then you get
sacked in the end zone for the game clinching safety.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
It shouldn't be much.

Speaker 8 (01:52:48):
Of a surprise because the Texans don't really do anything
basic very well this season. So when you've got a
bunch of guys who are really just trying to fight
to stay on a roster, who cause issues like this again,
it really shouldn't be much of a surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
I pointed this out earlier today and this good circle back.
You really don't realize how big these penalties are unless
you look. You look kind of at the math of it.
The Texans scored an opening touchdown right after Damian Pierce
and the special teams killed it. He got an eighty
yard return he looked like he was going to be
bottled up, and he bounced outside and ran for eighty

(01:53:23):
yards and they scored on the very next play. Well,
the Titans then scored the next ten points, and they
kicked off and Damian Pierce hauled off for another forty
eight yard return. He decided to return at two yards deep,
but got it out to the forty six yard.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Line, except MJ.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Stewart was called for holding, and instead of starting at
the forty six yard line, you started at the eighteen
yard line. That's a humongous penalty in yards lost. He
had a second special teams penalty, which you just addressed,
which was another huge negative for what you had to
do where you were going at that point in the game,
and now you're stuck, I mean two snaps away from that.

(01:54:01):
They were on the one yard line, and obviously the
safety was.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
What came later.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Lasser's holding call on a punt return, it's just I'm
not I shouldn't say the call they did it. These
were not poor calls. These were you can't do those
things on special teams.

Speaker 8 (01:54:16):
Just forgetting that the ball in the end zone is
still live and luckily being able to get back on
top of it like Darry did.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Honestly, I don't. I don't understand the rule anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Like these players throw their hand up and they run
off the field and the ball bounces wherever it bounces.
I mean, nobody's paying any attention to it ever, and
most of the time, I guess every time it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Goes out of the back of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
I thought the same thing that he did, Like we
called for a fair catch, do we really even have
to catch it? It doesn't seem like you do anymore.
But I guess with the dynamic kickoff you do. So
he jumped on it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
It's dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Yeah, Robert Woods had to jump on a couple of
awful punts and very smartly and safely did so. And
Darry had to jump on that one. No, not a
sharp enough day for Frank's crew.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Rushing game was ugly. I mean, I know we had
a disagreement in the first segment.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
We shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
But when the starting running back has twenty two yards
and the starting quarterback has eighteen, and the starting running
back's longest carry was eight yards and the starting quarterbacks
is seven, and your total rushing yards for yesterday is
forty and your quarterback gets pretty much half of that.
It's an ugly day at the office. And I don't know,

(01:55:27):
I'm not gonna I don't think I can sit here
and blame Joe Mixon because I mean that then you're
gonna put that against all of his other performances that
have been awesome. I mean, you got to give the
Tennessee Titans credit, but he was also involved in that
illegal motion play that took points off the board. And
you couple that with just running into a brick wall.

(01:55:49):
I know the play calling comes into play here. It
has to.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Yeah, you look at a running back. He's a healthy player,
Like one game to the next, Did he get smarter?

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Did he cut faster? Was his vision? I mean, he's
what he is.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
He's a good running back. On the days where like
Derrick Henry twice last year against the Texans, Texans just won.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Looked like that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
He didn't stop being a good running But I'm not
blaming him for the day.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Scheme scheme matters.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
They lost up front and it cost him yards. It's
last how many times do you think Joe Mixon has
had at least fourteen carries in a game over the
course of his career. He's done it seven times already here.
I don't know all of them, not all of them,
but I mean sixty nine times.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Yesterday was the fewest yards per carry he's had an
any game in his entire careerero point six, one point
five to seven to be exact.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
They rounded up.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
He's also had two games of under two yards per
carry with the Texans. He had won his entire career
before arriving. The Texans have run the ball to where
I want to say they've run the ball well. Their
yards per carry stinks. It's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Even with Joe Mixon having primarily pretty good games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
He has a forty five yard run, he has the
huge run against the Patriots. It makes the overall numbers
look good, and he's doing his job, and the run
game is still doing their job, but they're not with
a player who's in the I think he's now third
behind Pollard and Henry in the AFC and rushing yards.
But they're not running the ball quite as well as
I think those numbers are suggesting. They do better than

(01:57:20):
last year. Yeah, by quite a bit. He missed parts
of one and then the rest of the next.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Three, three, Yeah, so it would be it would give
you a truer sense of what he is if he
maybe played in those games and those numbers might not
be as skewed or what have you. But by the way,
you don't think the Titans are gonna load up the
exact same way again later in the year for the
regular season finale provided these and it's looking more and
more like he'd be playing that game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
No, no, they'll They'll be trying to shut down Damian
Pierce and probably JJ Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
What if the one seeds on the line. I'm just kidding.
I could no one seed, couldn't even say it with
a straight face. Yeah, it was. I had a lot
to write home about in a thirty two to twenty
seven loss to the Tennessee Titans yesterday. We will continue
to discuss that and many many more things as we
continue here to wrap up the four o'clock hour on
a Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
Ninety Adam Clinton and Adam Wexlor, The A team now continues.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
So I just mentioned that the UH Texans were really
trying to help themselves yesterday, just not in twenty twenty four,
but in twenty twenty five. A Texans victory yesterday would
have kept the Titans at two wins, you'd be sitting
at two nine on the season. They would have slotted

(01:58:51):
in at number three in the draft now, right ahead
of the Jaguars who are number four. So I think
they know what they're doing and maybe they'll be doing
it in this week's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
On the Planet.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
We can't have the Jaguars too close to the top
of the draft. I think with one more win, like
if the Jags get to three, like the Titans now
have gotten to three, I think the Sexs are on
easy street when it comes to the number one overall pick.
The Giants are definitely trying to lose, and they're losing
their locker room in the process because boy are some
of their players ticked off. And we knew this was
gonna happen, even though Daniel Jones wasn't helping them win.

(01:59:23):
To go from Daniel Jones to clearly not the next
guy in line intentionally for both money and their future
in draft, and the Raiders are about to go back
to Aidan O'Connell. It looks like he returned to practice today.
Gardner Minshew has an injury that has some sideline now
for the rest of the season. With his clavical they're
not likely to win many, if any games the rest

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of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
But what I found more interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
Than that is when you look at the teams lined
up for the top picks top ten, how many of
the current teams who would land a pick on the
top ten are being quarterbacked by a former number one
one overall draft pick. Well, Trevor Lawrence. They have the
third pick, number one overall pick. Yeah, how about the

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guy drafted head of Stroud?

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Okay, yeah, they have number six? Five?

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
The Bears, they're nine. They just picked Caleb Williams number one.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
The Joe Burrow led Bengals currently have the tenth pick
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
I don't know what to make of them. And you
are correct, it is five. It's not Baker Mayfield. It's
not Baker Mayfield's team. Wasn't he number one?

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
Baker Mayfield's team is the last team to beat both
the Eagles and the Lions. He's good, is good, and
they're good, and his celebration was awesome. Thed Vido celebration
was great and they crushed. It's not Baker Mayfield, but
you're thinking, like, was.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
He number one? Though? Huh okay, that's what I thought.
His team's too good. They do not have a top
ten pick.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Yeah, this team has three wins and they just won
on Thursday night in the snow.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Wow. Okay over Pittsburgh Ins, who have Deshaun Watson's contract.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
Are currently starting a number one overall draft pick at quarterback,
Jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
Half of the teams in the top ten are quarterbacked
by a team by a player who was drafted number
one overall.

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
Well, I'll tell you what. And I said this earlier,
Tommy DeVito not in that group. No, I wouldn't think
you would be. Do you know who's like laughing themselves
silly for some reason about CJ and the Texan struggles.
Bryce No, close a little bit further to the east.

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I know that's bad for you.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
Well, Carolina is coastal, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Oh? Actually, I guess it's further south, is what I
should have said. I was I had for some reason
I thought, no, Uh, Jackville fans, why because they laughing?
They have two wins? Good?

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
Good point, they're in They're circling the drain again.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
This is a fan blog nice black and teal might
be familiar. It's a fan sided joint. They are. They
go they do a whole paragraph about how CJ. Took off,
you know, as a rookie, and then they go on
in the next paragraph to apologize for Trevor Lawrence, who
dealt with a myriad of injuries in twenty twenty three.

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They conveniently leave out where he was back in the lineup,
and they lost all but like one game to completely
choke the division away.

Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
When he was playing, he was playing as an unhealthy quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
Okay, so it didn't get off the field if you're
not healthy. They lost all those games. So you think
c J. Strouds one hundred percent right now now and
five probably. Yeah. So they're talking about, you know, all
the things he does or did in his rookie year,
and then they said his quick ascension made analysts forget
about his Jaguars counterpart. No, nobody forgot about Trevor Lawrence.

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Nobody did. He just wasn't playing well. And he writes,
looking back, this was puzzling, as Lawrence had played like
a top ten quarterback the year prior. All right, I'm sorry.
In the best case scenario, he was not one of
the top third quarterbacks in the NFL the year prior sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:03:20):
Made the playoffs, fell behind big in the opening half
against the Chargers, then came all the way back in one.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
And you can easily name ten that were better than him.

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
He was.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
Yeah, he had a good year. I don't know that
to the top ten.

Speaker 3 (02:03:32):
I don't think we're slotting him top ten.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Unless you're a top Black and Steel fan blog, in
which case then he's like the best quarterback ever you
to your audience, it didn't matter. Stroud had arrived and
became the next best thing. Unfortunately, the success he enjoyed
as a rookie was unsustainable. This is so good. With
enough tape of him, opposing clubs had enough time to
prepare and defend him. Heck, the Jags contained him in

(02:03:56):
Week four and would have beaten Houston if it weren't
for self and flat wounds. The irony in that the
wouldn't been for those darn kids. The irony of that
being the fact that the Texans had self inflicted wounds
and a very controversial loss to the Jaguars earlier that year.
But I digress. Texans have now lost four the last

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six Stroud looks pedestrian. Granted, he's not the sole reason
his team has struggled. On the other hand, he hasn't
been able to elevate it the way he did last year.
Simply put, the bar was set higher for the sophomore
passer and his struggling to clear it. Looking back, his
proclamation that he's a top five quarterback didn't age well.

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And the season's not over yet, but they're burying C. J. Stroud.
He's practically dead. According to them. Following the loss to Tennessee,
Texans are seven and five. They're still the favorites to
win the AFC South, which kind of goes against his
prior sentence where he talks about why can't the quarterback
elevate his team? But you can make the case they
failed to seize the opportunity to run away with the division.

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
I did have some of the same thoughts at one
twenty nine pm earlier today, but I wanted to give
everybody a fuller picture of all of the Texans issues.
Since October sixteenth, this person named me tweets on the
X platform with a post there are twenty eight qbs
over the last six weeks essentially with at least one
hundred and fifteen pass attempts.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
Stroud is the lowest rated passer among them during that
time seventy four point seven. Now he's also the second
most sacked quarterback in that same time span.

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
Does that affect that first part?

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
And the Texans are one of just eight teams during
that time span to average less than four yards per rush?

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Does that also affect that first part?

Speaker 8 (02:05:50):
Try?

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
That's why I'm it's not an anti CJ. Post.

Speaker 3 (02:05:53):
It's a There are a lot of offensive fact. I
didn't even mention the play golng.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
It's called context.

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
But you can't deny when you watched these games this year.
If I told you to rattle through your fifteen starts
last year, twelve more. This year's played twenty seven regular
season games, you know, give me the five best performances.
Does your immediate thought think they must have happened last year?
The answers, yes, Yeah, so it's not. Does they they do?

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Does they? Of course they does twenty touchdowns and five
interceptions with a passer rating of one oh one point
two through twelve games last year fourteen touchdowns, nine interceptions
and passer rating under eighty eight this year through the
same twelve games, obviously the same total, different games. There
are a lot of reasons why. But if you watch

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him every Sunday, there are things that didn't happen that
appear to be solely on him, which is what he
told you earlier today on the show. These are throws.
He didn't make mistakes on those plays last year, and
he is this year.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
I want to hear more from CJ when we come back,
and I also want to wrap this up because they
are playing the Jags this week. It is pertinent, and
this is hilarious week. It's not even I can't even
I've gotten to the best part. We'll do that when
we come back.

Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
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Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
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Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adham talking your Teams
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler r the A team A team.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
Football at five where I continue to read aloud from
a Jaguars blog.

Speaker 3 (02:08:35):
No yet, well, I have to I have well, I
have to mean it is Jaguars week after all Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
And JAG's week. By the way, this is the best
rivalry in the AFC South record wise all time for
the Texans. Yeah, yeah, in their favor. I'm not going
to go down the list of all the times Peyton
Manning and Steve McNair kick them in the head.

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
If the if the Texans had one yesterday. Uh huh,
they would have had the opportunity to tie up the
season series all time that Titans.

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
Is actually impressive at how bad the Titans have been
for how long they've been.

Speaker 3 (02:09:09):
Yeah, the Texans got smoked the first four years. I
think they won once in eight games the.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
First four years. Its way bigger advantage because they never
won in Indianapolis for forever. But he goes on to
said Jones and c. J. Stroud this weekend, maybe Trevor
Lawrence has to play in this game.

Speaker 3 (02:09:25):
They just haven't gotten the far enough into the week
to have an answer yet.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
I need to see all those idiots who go duvol
I need that. Well, they're two and nine. They're probably
sad already. That's true. NFL is fluid and always about
what have you done for me lately? Unless you're a superstar,
you run the risk of being forgotten or disregarded if
you don't consistently prove yourself. This is where Trevor Lawrence

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comes in, which is hilarious to me. In the case
of Trevor Lawrence, he was given a pass as a
rookie because he had Urban Meyer as as head coach.
We've talked about. I do that. Yeah, you gave him
pass all. Once the Jags brought in someone who actually
knew what he was doing, he saw a massive improvement.
Do you agree with that statement?

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
I think so.

Speaker 8 (02:10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
When the bar so low, though, is it really massive
or is it just regular?

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
I mean, either it is massive or it isn't. That's
the year they went to the postseason and won a game.
He was significantly better. He went from twelve touchdowns, seven picks,
seventeen picks to twenty five touchdowns and eight picks. Everything
about his keys. He was a legitimately good quarterback. We
talked about that when we began our reading of the
Black and Teal last segment. He wasn't the best, he

(02:10:36):
wasn't elite, but he was a good quarterback. Trust me,
this is worth It's gonna get so much funnier. He's
it's already hilarious. Not very good sense.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
He has sucked. That's the analysis. However, Lawrence and the
Jaguars have struggled the past two years, which led to
talking heads to leave them aside. While talking CJ. Stroud
up he puts the two together. I know there's an
endgame here. Oh, don't worry.

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
The Jaguars have two wins. The Texans have seven wins.
I think we're still doing it right.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
But now that the second year quarterback has struggled CJ,
he's quickly getting disregarded too. Who's disregarding CJ? Stroud? I'm
waiting for you to tell me I'm not gonna do that.
Perhaps Shroud will turn the corner and show that he's
still the same quarterback he was as a rookie. On
the other hand, Lawrence should receive that benefit of the doubt,

(02:11:29):
and you can make the case that he never got it.
I don't know what part of that sentence is more
embarrassing for this person. I don't even know if it's
more embarrassing that he wrote that or I'm reading it
right now.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
That's a tough question.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
I'm aware though, I'm aware, like I have to read
this because it's too good not to him. By good,
I mean bad mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:11:49):
Like it's just.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
They're not even in the same conversation. You can take
CJ on his absolute worst day and he's leaps and bounds,
and every Jags fan knows it. They would take him
over Sunshine in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
That's probably the simplest way in a heartbeat, to put
an end to that comp He hadn't played. They've won
two games in the last fourteen times he started. They offensively.
You look at what and the injuries have come up
even more this year than they did last year, and
they're not looking particularly good as they go down the
stretch because these guys aren't coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
Both Kirk and Davis are done.

Speaker 3 (02:12:25):
They're bad shape, and it's not good for a quarterback
to try to continue or to attempt to succeed. They
traded away an average left tackle and Cam Robinson, and
I don't know that it's made any difference. Traded him
away meaning they didn't even need him, or what were
their plans for the rest of this year might end
up being in the conversation, we believe in you portion

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of Trevor Lawrence's career has been completed. They extended him.
The options were there. He's got a fifth year option,
which is twenty twenty five. You have franchise tag options
after that. They chose a different route. They chose to
sink all the money necessary at this point in the
offseason where he fit in the rest of the timing
of all other quarterbacks that have been signed, and they

(02:13:11):
have a pretty mediocre at best quarterback running their football
team who probably will be running a new offense next year.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
Again. See that's the thing. When that happens, I'm gonna
go back and find Carlos Sanchez who wrote this drivel,
and I'm gonna tell him I'm gonna be mean.

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
This is good teams. Like what happened this week. We
haven't gotten to some of the other NFL games yet.
One of the things that happened this week was Anthony
Richardson played like pre benching Anthony Richardson Again, there was
one huge drop that would have been a touchdown that
might have changed how things went. But actually that happened
to him a bunch early in the season too. It
really makes his numbers look even worse. But he's not playing,

(02:13:50):
he's not throwing the ball well.

Speaker 2 (02:13:51):
Again. He had one.

Speaker 3 (02:13:52):
Really good, solid fourth quarter that got them a win
over the Jets. They kept them close enough to the
Texans that they can't believe that they have a chance
in the division. But they got beaten pretty soundly by
the lines. And he didn't play particularly well. And Jonathan
Taylor can't run the ball anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
Jill Levis is the number two quarterback in the division.

Speaker 3 (02:14:09):
I just you can't help even though it's pathetic that
this is what you kind of are looking at. It's
the NFL. You reach the playoffs and get a home game.
If you're better than three teams, there's thirty one other teams.
If you're better than these three, you get an extra game,
you get to host that game, and you're one of
fourteen teams that gets to play in the playoffs. You

(02:14:31):
think that's all that has to be done. I'm not
trying to pedestal them. I'm not trying to bring them down.
I'm saying you have to be better than three other teams.
And the direction of those three teams right now, Tennessee
is the team that just beat you. They're also the
team in the division that was trading players away in
season this year because they know where they fit, they
know where things are nowhere like.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
The Tigers with the Astros, same thing. They were sellers
and then they beat you in the postseason. It sucks
to be in Houston right now.

Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
They were sellers.

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
They were They sent Flair to the world champion Dodgers
and he helped them. He did help them, he got
a ring. Imagine if they had him.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
All the Tigers did was win two games in here.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Destros wouldn't have even scored. Maybe no, they wouldn't know.
If there was two games him and scooball over, they
weren't scoring. That offense sucks. Re signed Bragman.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
By the way, Okay, well, so, like we said, we
keep putting it out there. He snuck the Astros in
here football at five right, been on the Texans a ton,
and obviously there's more than enough to fill our plates
with that. It was a pretty fun day in the NFL.
The Cowboys just got their clocks cleaned or beaten, sound
lay on the scoreboard by the text and however you

(02:15:40):
want to term it, and Cooper Rush led them to
the lead. And then the insaneness that happened at the
end of the game. Two kick return touchdowns, a touchdown
with under thirty seconds on one play, a touchdown drive
of eighty six yards on one play went up by
a touchdown. That's what the Cowboys gave up to Jaydon
Daniels and Terry McLaurin. And that was followed by John

(02:16:02):
Carney's mixed extra point I'm sorry, Austin Sieberts. Oh my god,
how could he do that way?

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
He was in tears.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
He was literally in tears doing his post game after
the game. Interesting, Kaymie Fairbairn was unavailable post game for
the media.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
Because he didn't want to cry in front of the cameras.

Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
I was talking to somebody who hasn't been covering the
team quite as long as as well all of us
here have. I don't remember him not I could be wrong.
I don't remember him not talking. Even if he makes
that games so it doesn't guarantee they win.

Speaker 2 (02:16:32):
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
He also set an NFL record during that game with
another fifty yard After he does, he'd show. I mean,
he was really really ticked off and upset, but you know,
the Cowboys finish was amazing. The Commanders, and hey, who's
going to be the next C. J.

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
Stroud?

Speaker 3 (02:16:49):
The answer turned out to be Jade and Daniels until
it wasn't. Now he's played fairly, fairly, calmly, a little
bit pedestrian the last couple of weeks, and they've gone LLL.
They just lost to the Cowboys, who are obviously going
nowhere by the way, Ceedee Lamb over five and a
half receptions. I don't know who set that line, but

(02:17:09):
I'm glad you did. Targeted twelve times, caught ten balls.

Speaker 2 (02:17:12):
Yeah, well, guess who took me over on Jill Mixon's
rushing yards and hates life right now? With another tie,
With another tie, I get two ties in a season.
There's plenty of season left to get more.

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
We'll get you the full results on the Stone Cold
Locks coming up on Friday. We actually have two options
for our college football game of the week. I might
come talk with the judges and see if we institute
both of them. The early game rivalry game one of
the best in the country Ohio State and Michigan. And
then the rivalry game that we finally get back Saturday

(02:17:43):
night in College Station between the Longhorns and the Aggies,
and it is an elimination game from the SEC Tournament.

Speaker 2 (02:17:50):
The winner plays Georgia. So we would only get to
pick two other games. Are you just adding a game?

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
YEA, No, I might just have that, but I think
because Michigan stinks, I'm gonna leave that on a side.
I think the judges will properly rule it. We don't
need to see it, and we saw Hoio State as
our game of the week this week, so yes, it
will be Longhorns and Aggie's. But we mentioned this earlier.
Bryce Young, he's playing legitimate football. He ran a legitimate offense,

(02:18:17):
He's seeing the feel better, He's making throws much more
effectively than he ever has in his career. He was benched.
They said, we can't have you like this year, Anthony Richardson,
You're playing badly and you're keeping us from winning. On
top of that, the Panthers thought he was keeping them
from winning. They didn't win yesterday because they played the Chiefs.
Chiefs won all the close games, but that was a
pretty good performance by the Panthers, and obviously Bryce Young,

(02:18:41):
Chiefs still ended up winning.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:18:45):
I mean, we haven't analyzed the Monday night game in
a while. But in the fact that both of these
teams are the Texans when it comes to a record
basically seven and four for the Ravens, seven and three
for the Chargers, these are likely teams in the wild
card picture, so very likely teams they will play. If
the Texans beat the Ravens, the Ravens aren't going to

(02:19:05):
win the division most likely. I mean the Ravens lose
a second time to the Steelers, They're probably not going
to win the division.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
By the way, I in no way right now can
see the Texans. I can't envision them beating the Ravens,
even though it's stupid to say that because the Titans
just beat them at home.

Speaker 3 (02:19:18):
Yeah, Ravens, Chargers, and the Broncos are currently of those
teams there. And by the way, just because I brought
up Jaden Daniels, Jadon Daniels should, in my opinion, be
running second in the quarterback Rookie of the Year race.
Bonix's ahead of him. Boenix has had a better season
than Jadon Daniels. Extremely crazy low to think about that,
bar I think for people when he went into the

(02:19:40):
draft and when he ended up getting drafted where he did,
They've done a great job.

Speaker 2 (02:19:44):
What were the Commanders there are five and zero to
start the year. I don't know if they were five
and he was leading into spectacular, thrilling victories. He's running
all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
Then he's run a whole lot less after he got hurt,
and that's impacting.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
Their Argy three did that once for them. They lost
their opener to Tampa for one. That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
They lost the rain or row.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
But the bottom line is the debate is far from over.
But you will have a hard time finding an analyst
eight who still thinks CJ. Stroud is a top NFL quarterback.
I am going to smoke this fool on Monday next week.
Just wanted to give you all heads up.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
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Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
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Speaker 1 (02:20:51):
We now return to Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler on.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (02:21:06):
It is the eight team Sports Talk seven ninety. Wex
and AC with you Space City Home Network as well
as we take you up until six o'clock tonight. The
Texans and Titans yesterday will be better or worse from

(02:21:27):
all of the elements that we always complain about this
season standpoint than this upcoming game against the Jags. And
I only asked that because they're essentially the same team
coming in.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
What isn't likely to change, I don't think is how
they deploy their offensive line and some of the schemes
they want to run and slides they want to perform, etc.

Speaker 2 (02:21:46):
I think they're showing.

Speaker 3 (02:21:48):
A clear pattern of letting other teams watch film and
figure out what to do that's going to work, and
not making them necessary changes. Again, the personnel not changing.
The five guys that started this week are starting again
next week. We're gonna start the rest of the season,
barring injury. That's just who they have, and that's just
what they're gonna do. They really now don't have anybody else.
I don't think that makes any sense to put out there,

(02:22:09):
So that's not gonna change. The changes come from the execution.
Those guys can still execute better even with all their shortcomings.
Bobby Slowik I think can put them in a better
position where not only them really, I lost count, and
I think I must have tweeted or posted on x
about it the number of plays that designated Hey see

(02:22:29):
that titan. I'm designing a play that has him running free,
but it's up to you guys to make the play
before that guy wrecks it. And not only was a
rusher gonna come free, who's gonna come free right to
where CJ had the only option to throw it because
the guy was for Ali Gay had a sack against
the Texans yesterday. He's been in Texans camp for two years,

(02:22:51):
never seen the field for a reason. Well, if you
leave him unblocked, he's still an NFL player you want,
and there in wreck Shop on one play, it's amazing.
And then like two or three plays later, or maybe
two or three plays prior to that, you had another
player off the edge. It was so clear to me.
I'm not even a football coach. I just watched football
from coaches box. Basically a couple rows down, did they

(02:23:13):
not realize this is where the rush is gonna come from.
You've set it up where this person's definitely not gonna
be blocked, and CJ is gonna take a seventh step
drop or his three step drop out of the shotgun,
and he's gonna have to get it rid of the
ball immediately and probably have to throw it right into
this player, over him or around him, because that's where
your hot receiver is. That's where Joe Mixon is gonna
run right by him, knowing that. Well, I could block

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him and then we have nothing to do because I'm
the primary target. Or I could let him go unblocked
because I'm the only target that he's gonna have a
chance to throw to because the guy's already on top
of him.

Speaker 2 (02:23:45):
Too many plays like that were called.

Speaker 3 (02:23:47):
And this is where I'm totally fine with the Bobby
Slowe discussion and the idea that he's not doing a
particularly good job this year. I don't really care to
get into, well, what if the offense. It's not what
if the offensive line? You have this offensive line. This
is what Nick has given you. This is how colch
Strasser is teaching them, or Colt Popovich and Chris Strasser
are teaching them. This is what you have now call

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your plays accordingly. If these plays aren't gonna work because
of what you can't get done up front, you can't
keep calling the same plays or the same thing is
going to happen last two weeks. I do believe their
past protection has been better. It's been enough to allow
CJ to be more successful, though he hasn't been. And

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that's why we keep running down this list of Okay, well,
is it his fault or is it it's all of
their faults. It is team wide, and that's why there
are where they are. I think a lot of people
expect this type of loss to that type of team
in your building to be kind of a crossroads, a
gut check, a spin in the season from we're just

(02:24:49):
letting this season slip away. This is our wake up call.
Have we heard all these phrases throughout the year already,
Why is this one going to be any different? We're
a one week ago today you were thinking, Oh, they're
gonna go in and clobber the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:25:04):
They're gonna go and get the win.

Speaker 3 (02:25:05):
And then Tuesday we came in, Oh, yeah, they're about
to be nine and four. They just beat the Cowboys,
they get the Titans, the Jaguars, and the Dolphins next
up they're gonna be They're gonna be ten and four.
They're gonna roll through those at the very least they're
gonna be nine and four. That game last Monday night
didn't do anything for their season. It didn't change their mindset,
It didn't change their appearance on a game day, It

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didn't change their attitude on it. It didn't change anything.
Just one Sunday they were better than the other team,
and this Sunday, the other terrible team was better than them.
And a couple Sundays or Thursdays back on Halloween, the
Jets crushed you. I mean, I know the scoreboard is
what it is. They outplayed you significantly. They can't beat anybody.
There's no watershed moment on the way for the Texans.

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And Joe Mixon, I think really felt that there was
the way he was speaking, the way he became captain.

Speaker 2 (02:25:53):
The way he has done. He know better than anybody though,
since he's the one running behind that line.

Speaker 3 (02:25:59):
Yeah, but the line is, it's not the only reason
they are not playing consistent as a team.

Speaker 2 (02:26:04):
They could have totally.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
Won that game with the exact same line play. They
could have won that game by two scores with the
same line play they got. They just aren't doing all
every have said about fifty times this season and Yesterday's
was the best example. Great out your special teams pass fail.
They failed. Gred out your defense, pass fail, they failed.
Great out your offense, same thing. They all had their

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own issues aside from what everybody else did. Texas been
dominating the football, which unquestionably has been helping their defense.
Their defense was taking six to eight fewer snaps every
single game on average. Yesterday they played twelve more snaps.
They were out there all day. Now they got hurt
early in the game. They give up seventeen points on
the first three drives, so that's not necessarily the only reason,

(02:26:50):
but it was a huge shift in how they've been
able to play their defense and deploy players to go
out there and do the things they want. They're probably
they might not play another regular season game this year
with Jalen Peatrie with a pectoral injury. He just suffered,
and that hurts their secondary tremendously. They got Kamari Lasseter back,
it helped. They got Will Anderson back, it also helped,

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and they gave up thirty points two more when the
offense was on the field thirty points ye to the Titans.

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
Titans were one of the worst offenses in the league.

Speaker 3 (02:27:17):
If you grade them by points scored, if you'd like
to do that, I'd like to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:27:21):
They don't score a lot of points they did yesterday.
I just can't again. I keep going back to will
Levis too. I mean, Pollard absolutely helped in that regard,
but Will Levis looked nothing like a competent quarterback the
last time these two teams got together.

Speaker 3 (02:27:38):
He had even I know they sacked him eight times yesterday,
he had way less time to throw the last time,
both of the last times they played. Go back and
look at those eight sacks and count them up. I
think you'll get to five. How many of those sacks
were he went to the wrong place when he felt
the pressure, he ran into three sacks. He climbed in

(02:27:59):
the pocket unknown necessarily and ran he ran. I'm not
discrediting the sacks, but these sacks weren't Oh my god,
their offensive line is a disaster. These sacks were this
part this Jay Latham got beat on this player or
Daniel Hunter beat the tackle on the right side on
this play, and Levis is trying to move through the
pocket and there just wasn't anywhere to go three four

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seconds into a play, not like last year when it
was snapsack, snap sack, snap sack, snap him in half.
I mean, those weren't Those things weren't happening yet I
was hoping for that. Though Levis was good from the jump.
The running game was good from the jump. You can't
start eleven of eleven in an NFL game and not
act like that guy didn't play well he did.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
I guess I'm just like, where did that come from?
Because he hasn't been good all year.

Speaker 3 (02:28:42):
I believe I had I'd thrown some shade at the
Brian Callahan led staff in during the week with their
no name oc DC combination with him and it's his offense. Essentially,
they were the more prepared team. Their defense clearly knew
how to scheme for the Texans running game with their shortcomings,

(02:29:02):
and their offense figured out, where are the places where
we can exploit this really talented defense and the way
Tony Pollard ran the football looking for cuts, looking to
get outside, and he did that a bunch. And most
of what they did early, not the thirty eight yard
touchdown pass. Mostly what they did early was quicker, shorter

(02:29:23):
throws for Levis, not only to get his confidence going,
but to move the football and it worked.

Speaker 2 (02:29:29):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:29:30):
And then you add the explosives to it, which is
actually something he's going to probably be pretty good at.

Speaker 2 (02:29:35):
And that's something that the Texans have given up multiple times.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
You ensually walking in with WEX yesterday, I haven't seen it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:29:42):
So I saw the beginning of it, and then I
got distracted. My kid was all over me yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:29:46):
Well, I had to quote tweet it am I walking
out with Wex because it was so awesome. I said,
this feels like a come on man edition of walking
in with Wex. What are they going to How are
the Texans going to lose? How many different things that
you will never expect happen will have happen for them
to lose? And I said, they've They've got almost their
fullest set of healthy defensive lineman. Only Photocassi is out.

(02:30:07):
He got Anderson back. Look, here's what they need to do.
Don't let Tony Pauler get going in the run game.
Don't let Will Levis show off his arm strength and
walk away with a lopside of victory.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
I mean I could, I've I've been wrong before.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
I don't know that I've been more wrong before walking
into the stadium, right behind a Texans fan in a
dominic Davis jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:30:32):
Well that's a longtime fan, right there.

Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
Was a thirty seven. I had not seen a Davis
jersey this season to date.

Speaker 2 (02:30:40):
That's brutal. I mean, I guess it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:30:43):
No. He was next to a fan wearing the h
Town blue number seven Stroud jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
They were together. I'm like, so the oldest to the
newest basically exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:30:54):
I just uh, He's like, hey man, we can we
can only bust out this year for one you can
have it or maybe their alternate game to gain.

Speaker 2 (02:31:03):
Will Levista he come back to it. I've seen Pollard
have success.

Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:31:07):
Pollard is one of the two AFC running backs ahead
of Joe Mixon in rushing game.

Speaker 2 (02:31:11):
He just hasn't played enough games. He missed three games
he has all that is roughly the same number of
carries is he? You know what this does that I
never thought it would. It doesn't matter who plays in
the game. I'm still going to think this. It just
makes that last game against the Titans like they're gonna
have that defensive line out there.

Speaker 3 (02:31:33):
I think I am in full confidence with this statement
that Titans defensive line will be trying to get to
the backup in the final game of the season.

Speaker 2 (02:31:44):
Oh, Davis Mills, last game of the year. Can't wait?

Speaker 1 (02:31:49):
The a teed on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:31:56):
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Speaker 3 (02:31:58):
Listen to the Home of the Astros and your just
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A bunch of stuff to get to with large three
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barely of the Houston Texans yesterday ghos thirty two to
twenty seven in the final. We have teased a bunch

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of other items that definitely deserves some comments from us
today and probably will end up getting more of them tomorrow.
The college Football Weekend among them, and the future college
football weekend. And I joked about the hot stove. It's
been turned on. You've lit the burner. I don't know
if it's hot, but it leads us on and someone's
in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (02:32:38):
What do we have for in case you missed it?

Speaker 4 (02:32:40):
All right?

Speaker 8 (02:32:40):
So John Hayman with a report over the weekend that
the Astros have made an offer to Alex Bregman, but
he didn't have a number of years or an average
annual value.

Speaker 3 (02:32:50):
I can't help myself. November twenty first, four days ago,
this from John Hayman of the New York Post. The
Tigers are interested in star free agent third base when
Alex Bregman, which would give him a chance to reunite
with manager A. J.

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
Hinch from their Houston days.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
Dash and yes, the incumbent Astros are in with an offer.
His article about the Astros giving Alex Bregman an offer,
that is the only mention of it, and that is
the manner in which he wrote it into his article.
They're in with an offer, all.

Speaker 2 (02:33:25):
Right, Well come on, man?

Speaker 8 (02:33:26):
Well, I mean, and here's where things kind of get
tricky because, in like a whole like kind of hot
stove notebook that Bob Nightingale USA Today put out, he
wrote it like this, the Astros would love to have
Alex Bregman back on a six year deal worth about
one hundred and fifty six million, but Bregman seeking a
deal of at least two hundred So is he saying

(02:33:47):
that's the offer?

Speaker 2 (02:33:48):
Like, I'm kind of confused. Here's what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (02:33:50):
He's saying, according to Bob Nightingale and Adam Clanton from
last week, the Astros could get Alex Bregman at a
one hundred million dollar discount, only two hundred million, because
a week ago we were talking about Ken Rosenthal and
Scott Boris saying he's looking at a three hundred million

(02:34:11):
dollar deal. He wants am Ma Shato deal. Now he
only wants two hundred What a discount. That's why I
called three hundred a joke. Six or one hundred and
fifty six million, five million dollars over the length of
the deal is what you'd be paying more than Matt Chapman.
I don't think it's an embarrassing, low balls, laugh in

(02:34:34):
your face offer, but it barely sounds like a start
to negotiations. If that's a sixty or one hundred and
fifty six million dollar deal, and if it comes from
this team, it's probably worse.

Speaker 2 (02:34:46):
If another team comes in.

Speaker 3 (02:34:47):
We he just says, no thanks and come back with
something else, and I'll talk to another team.

Speaker 8 (02:34:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:34:51):
I do think mentioning Bob Nightingale's report because we probably
haven't said something enough. Where does he want to play?
He wants to play where he can win. He wants
to play where he and his brand and possibly his
wife's brand matter. That's why I don't think he's going
to Seattle. That's why I don't think he truly wants
to play in Arizona, even though I think family wise

(02:35:11):
it might be awesome. For where it is and how
much they like it there, we don't mention Philadelphia enough,
like Philadelphia would give them everything they're going to win.
He could be the missing piece to another championship caliber team.
If they think they're missing one, they're going to pay.
He's gonna get two hundred million from them if that

(02:35:31):
is a team he signs for, in my opinion, and
I think you're in such a high profile place. Unless
I don't want to live in Philadelphia, and I'm not
trying to besmirch the good name of the city of
brotherly love. I don't know individual the individual, but honestly,
I think Philadelphia, if they're serious about spending big money again,
and I think they are, that would be a place

(02:35:53):
that I think makes a lot of sense. I didn't
see a report, and I didn't say they checked in
on him, because I don't do that, but yeah, I
would think it would make a lot of sense for
him to be there, all.

Speaker 8 (02:36:04):
Right, Well, one potential free agent target that the Astros
would have liked to have retained, no matter how brief
he was here for. Well, you say, Kakuchi no longer
an option, He's heading to the Los Angeles Angeles of Anaheim.
Three years, sixty three million, twenty one million per.

Speaker 2 (02:36:20):
He's going to immediately get hurt and or start sucking
up again.

Speaker 3 (02:36:23):
That's a worthy hat tip to Johnny h. He was
the first one to not only report the deal but
report the figure, So good for him. That's the kind
of stuff he does occasionally do very very very well.
If if you say, is not their number one or
two starter to start the year, he's probably going to
pitch at diyke In Park when they make their first
trip here that third weekend of the year. Probably would

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get one of those starts, is the three, four or five,
And I think that's where he'd be slotted in. I'll
ask you guys, I'll give my personal opinion. First, when
they made the trade, I thought there was a zero
point zero percent chance.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
He was going to be an Astro after this year.

Speaker 3 (02:36:58):
After they made the trade, after he pitched as well
as he did after he was so important for them
to get where they did last year.

Speaker 2 (02:37:05):
My opinion did not change.

Speaker 3 (02:37:07):
I don't think they were ever a serious contender to
be searching for you say, Kukuchi this offseason and the
money he got is the reason why.

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
Well, my only question is, and I realize it's not
you know, he's out of your price range if that's
what he's gonna get, But why are you having quote
conversations with Justin Verlander? What are you talking about? How
old he is? I think they know.

Speaker 3 (02:37:32):
I mean, what's wrong with having conversations on one year
day nothing?

Speaker 2 (02:37:35):
You don't have him be one of your pitchers, so
you can't.

Speaker 3 (02:37:37):
You can't have Justin Verlander back on a one year,
ten to fifteen, twelve to fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
Let me ask you this, if you have Justin Verlander
in your rotation to start the year, how many times
will that have been that he has cheated the fountain
of youth? You're playing with house money at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:37:54):
From ber your opening day starter Hunter Brown, Hunter Brown, Spencer, Raghetti,
Louise Scarcia, and there's obviously one more, and it's just
over my Spencer. I think I said him, Oh, did
you say him Ryan Gusto? No, it's somebody that's obvious,
and I just am forgetting who it is.

Speaker 2 (02:38:13):
I mean, you're not getting Christian Hovi or back till later. No,
it's none of the injured players. He's not Jose or Keaty. No,
it's saying Hohuhucci is that guy? He's gone?

Speaker 3 (02:38:24):
No, the projected starting rotation is not include him.

Speaker 2 (02:38:28):
I don't know that you're missing somebody obvious. I think
that there. I am you sure? M hm. Lance mccullors
isn't gonna be ready, is he?

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
Man? I wouldn't do that. Wow, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
You don't think Lance mccullors is ready for the start
of this season after everything.

Speaker 8 (02:38:43):
I didn't realize Dana on astral line talking about him.

Speaker 2 (02:38:48):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:38:48):
I don't think they're giving him. I don't think they'll
be giving him an opportunity to be a starter when
the year starts personally, and it might only be it
could still be for health reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:38:58):
So who's the obvious name that you use? I don't know.
I can't remember aj Blueball.

Speaker 3 (02:39:03):
No, those are non obvious.

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
I it's not justin er Lander could be it is not.

Speaker 3 (02:39:12):
He's not even on the team.

Speaker 2 (02:39:15):
I just don't know what that.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
If that's your best I'm not sitting here waiting for it.
I'm ready for the next item on in case you
missed it.

Speaker 8 (02:39:21):
All right, So, like you said earlier, A and M
and Texas the rivalry is back, but maybe some of
the luster could be gone, because in four overtimes on
Saturday nights, A and M fell to Auburn forty three
forty one. Here's the final play of the game, Dave Fleming,
ESPN KIM the Aggies answer down forty three forty one,

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direct snap, pitch back read rose right.

Speaker 4 (02:39:49):
Ess.

Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
So before the game ended, this week's game was going
to be for a birth the SEC title game.

Speaker 2 (02:40:01):
Now what is it? It's still but okay.

Speaker 8 (02:40:04):
It's also too I mean A and M's margin to
get into the playoff is much shorter.

Speaker 2 (02:40:08):
It doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (02:40:10):
They can't make the playoff unless they're SEC champions.

Speaker 2 (02:40:14):
Which you win these next two games they're in.

Speaker 3 (02:40:16):
Yes, if you upset both of the next two teams
you play, you are going to the playoffs. If you
win your next two playoff games before the playoffs begin,
you will get there. The obvious answer, by the way,
from Bervaldez, Hunter Brown, Spencerrigady, Luis Garcia and the guy
who throws no hitters Renel Blanco. The obvious answer.

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
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What a piece of crap I am. I can't believe
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Speaker 2 (02:41:36):
So how long do we have to wait until we
can flush this one? Like tomorrow, can we come in
and it's all Jags football.

Speaker 3 (02:41:43):
I don't know how much we need to talk about
the Jags again. The opponent yesterday still to me, wasn't
the big problem. The problem was Houston and it's been
the case most of this year. The problem was the
the other team, whoever they might be. Keep coming to
the table, keep coming to the game as the more
prepared team. You're a team that keeps making more execution
mistakes or mistakes that should be correctable, the ones you

(02:42:05):
keep telling us Demiko and others, these are fixable.

Speaker 2 (02:42:08):
It's on us. Well, you're right, it is on you.

Speaker 3 (02:42:10):
So I'm not ready to talk about Jacksonville just yet,
but I am ready to move on past this to
a certain extent, starting tomorrow. Again, remember tomorrow we have
the end of the week comes tonight with the Chargers
and Ravens. The beginning of the new week starts as
usual on Thursday. We have three NFL games. Thursday, we
have the Friday game, second Friday this NFL season where

(02:42:32):
we have a game Vegas will lose to Kansas City
by ninety On Friday Night in Kansas.

Speaker 2 (02:42:36):
City, full Vegas is beating Kansas City. I just said
they would lose them. So now you're wrong, No, you're wrong.
How about that? Huh? Beat that?

Speaker 3 (02:42:45):
No, you're wrong, full slate oft Sunday and Monday Night.
Of course we get Jamis Winston playing on Monday Night football.
So back to back games in prime time for Jamis.

Speaker 2 (02:42:53):
With an interview. More importantly, I.

Speaker 3 (02:42:55):
Everyone loves the Jamis interview. I mean, barb it for
me if people of that. You know, Dan did mention
this upcoming weekend, and obviously we talked about some of
the games on the horizon the Big Twelve. You know,
it's confusing when the Big Twelve issues a statement on
Sunday or Saturday during the games.

Speaker 2 (02:43:15):
We will have an update on.

Speaker 3 (02:43:16):
Our tiebreaker scenarios tomorrow because there are four teams at
seven and two, there are another five teams at six
and three or could finish at six and three and
six and two currently, and there's a billion different combinations
for it. And then they sent out their release of
what these tiebreakers could be because zero teams have clinched
a berth in the Big Twelve title game. Arizona State,

(02:43:40):
Colorado byu Iowa State are the four teams that could
finish seven and two, And when they sent out the
release giving all the tiebreaker scenarios, they wouldn't even put
in the scenarios for the teams.

Speaker 2 (02:43:51):
That are one game back.

Speaker 3 (02:43:53):
They only included the teams that are at six and
two because it's too confusing to go through all the
other stuff. I guess which is what you're there for.
I was really surprised they took that route. But Cougar's
played BYU this weekend, late late nine fifteen here locally
on Saturday night, in what might well definitely be one

(02:44:14):
of the coldest games U of H has ever played.
It might not be the coldest game they've ever played,
but we shall see. Saturday night. They're going to impact
that because BYU is in position to claim one of
those spots, Arizona State's in a better position to forecast.
The forecast is to have high twenties tempts. Oh good,
that sounds absolutely horrible. Well, I will be did it

(02:44:37):
once last year. Now my one opportunity this year. I
will be working these sidelines for the radio broadcast.

Speaker 2 (02:44:42):
I will be on the field for the Saturday night
Wait a second, wait, why hadn't you Why didn't you
bring this up in the opening.

Speaker 3 (02:44:49):
The weather we're going to be like before I signed
up for this, I'm all for it. I can't okay,
I was about to say, yeah, for sure, what are
you gonna wear? Do you even own what you need
to wear? I will look just as I have for
each of the previous U of H games I've this year,
I'll be wearing you of age gear?

Speaker 2 (02:45:02):
Are they providing you with?

Speaker 3 (02:45:04):
I think I currently have enough to take care of myself.
Maybe I'll ask for a hat that's U of H logoed,
because at no point did I ever think ski mask
something like that what.

Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
The only thing? In this case? Then they do really
provide you all the wardrobe behind.

Speaker 3 (02:45:17):
I mean, just over the years, I've accumulator different U
of H stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:45:20):
Well, no, this is different.

Speaker 3 (02:45:21):
I have a thick pullover, I've got some other long
sleeve materials keep going, and some pants twenties dude. Yeah,
in the glof do you have boots? Uh, snow boots?
I'll have to consider what footwear I'll go it and
thermal socks.

Speaker 2 (02:45:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:45:38):
Actually I went to Chicago during spring break a couple
of spring breaks ago, and it was still twenty It
was snowing. I have the requisite clothing to handle.

Speaker 2 (02:45:47):
It, okay, because I don't need you freezing down there
on the sideline. Then I got it.

Speaker 6 (02:45:52):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (02:45:52):
I'll be fine by Monday. I'll be back Sunday morning,
five in the morning. I'll be fine. I just gotta be.
This is Unfortunately, it's their last game of the year.
They blew out by the way, looked phenomenal. Credit to
everybody that was involved in that.

Speaker 2 (02:46:07):
Like every other Houston team they lost.

Speaker 3 (02:46:09):
They did it was they well, not only like every
other Houston team, guests who outscored the u of H
offense the u of H defense. Oh well, in the
second half of Texans games, they've now done that with
their defense.

Speaker 2 (02:46:22):
At least twice. Rockets week defense didn't outscore their offense,
but after Friday Night it was all downhill Houston.

Speaker 3 (02:46:28):
They tried to play so much defense against the Blazers
they could win without scoring.

Speaker 2 (02:46:32):
You know, they probably hope that the Friday night score
could somehow carry over into Saturday's game.

Speaker 3 (02:46:37):
Yeah, they've turned in a bunch of blowouts and unfortunately
they couldn't turn in back to back wins over the
same team. But the college football slate the Longhorns is
an Aggie game. I don't I don't want to both
sides can be true. I don't think the Lusters off
of the game. Despite the fact that the Aggies not
only lost this week, but I now have three losses.
They're still playing for a berth in the title game
and they haven't played since twenty eleven. These tickets nationwide

(02:47:02):
season long. These are the most expensive tickets.

Speaker 2 (02:47:05):
I was just about to ask if you were one
of those Aggie students that waited in line and then
you saw that loss this past week, the way they lost,
were you like, come on, man, like.

Speaker 3 (02:47:15):
Now we want to beat them even more. He doesn't
save their season. Their season has been good. Their first
season with coach Elco has been a success. He's had
to flip flop quarterbacks. They unfortunately run into two typical
SEC games. You just don't know which they're going to
be each year. Happen to be South Carolina and Auburn otherwise,

(02:47:36):
and now they could be eight and four and going
to a non super awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:47:40):
They finally get it right. This coaching higher finally on accident.

Speaker 3 (02:47:43):
Now I don't know about that, but I'm not going
to act like I don't think he did a very
good job this year, because he absolutely did. Yeah, and
his tea, his in game quarterbacks, which won them a
football game that not everybody does.

Speaker 2 (02:47:52):
That he did. It was the right play and it
worked out for him.

Speaker 3 (02:47:57):
Far from the most unsatisfied SEC season because this past
weekend was nuts. We'll have a lot more time to
talk about that as we get a little bit closer
the week. But with what Florida did what Alabama didn't do,
I can't give ohe you credit.

Speaker 2 (02:48:12):
My gosh, Alabama, come on, what are you doing well?
Labama has been involved in some crazy ones this year.
That was not crazy. That was just embarrassing. How they
performed in that game. Good job, O you.

Speaker 3 (02:48:23):
That's the best I can muster up for you.

Speaker 2 (02:48:24):
You're supposed to say it's five point fifty three. I
know they still suck. Okay, just making sure you're still
a longhorn.

Speaker 3 (02:48:31):
But we'll get to that when time brings us back
to college football a little bit closer to the weekend. Yeah,
the focus quite clearly was on an extremely unexpected performance.
It's to me it is still less about the loss
and more about the performance. Their performances have been like
this too much of the season. The games they were
winning early, they performed like this, they just ended up

(02:48:53):
winning the game's late. They aren't winning them anymore. The
other teams making the play late in the game. The
Texans are coming the penalty late in the game. They've
gone back to back weeks with a penalty that's taken
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:49:04):
Off the board.

Speaker 3 (02:49:05):
They're they're making the same types of crippling mistakes that
they made at the beginning of the year. And this
game really kind of outlined that even more so than
the last several weeks. You're two and four in your
last six games. You've lost games to two teams going nowhere,
the Jets and the Titans. You're not playing another team
that's going nowhere in the Jaguars. So as I've said

(02:49:25):
for throughout for three or four hours now, it's not
about the other guys. It clearly isn't. It is about
what they aren't doing well.

Speaker 2 (02:49:34):
I will panic when Nico Collins goes on a rant
like Malik Neighbors. That's when I'll he sounds all start
getting you get plenty of targets getting well. He should
have had a touchdown, He should have had another.

Speaker 3 (02:49:44):
Yeah. The touchdowns that have been wiped off the board
these last two weeks have both been his. Is the
team trying to pay homuch to uh Andre Johnson by
not letting Nico get double figure touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (02:49:55):
Are they trying to injure his hamstring in a non
scoring play? Yeah, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (02:50:01):
Great to be with you as always, Full four for
our ride for you today, same thing tomorrow, and we
look forward to having you along for the ride for
Dan and Ac.

Speaker 2 (02:50:10):
Wex here saying tomorrow at two we talk again

Speaker 4 (02:50:14):
The AG on Sports Talk seven ninety

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