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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wetfler are day.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Just after five.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
O'clock on a Friday, which means we will be catching
up with Chandler Rum with the Athletic sooner rather than later.
He scheduled to join us and talk all things not
just Astro's baseball injuries, trade deadline, et cetera, et cetera,
and maybe even a little wrestling.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean, it's pretty easy for me at this point.
I'm just writing the same story and transposing names every time,
different names, different diagnoses. You're changing what number this is
on the il. But yeah, I mean it's it's getting
hard to believe at this point. And I mean everyone
is looking for someone to blame, and I think they're
at a point now where they're gonna have to do
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some pretty holistic soul searching this offseason when it comes
to you know, injuries and how they handle things. But
some of this isn't it's not his fault, Like pitchers
are built to get hurt, like that happens all the time.
Jeremy Payne, you got hit in the ribs by a pitch,
you know. Jacob Melton turned around to watch a homer
leave the ballpark and sprained his ankle. Like some of
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it's just rotten luck, and they've had they've had a
lot of bad luck, they've had just some organizational dysfunction.
It seems like everything has kind of swelled into one
and it's just become a pretty remarkable series of events.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, they've had so many guys move away instead of
seeing guys come back. Didn't you even mention the absurdity
of the Spencer Arraghetty injury, But in light of the
fact he throws tonight Garcia tomorrow, France on Sunday, and
Christian Javier through yesterday yesterday for Sugarland and the other
three pitchers were all through for Corpus Christy, could you
see a scenario where we're one rehab appearance after this
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weekend away from seeing say Arraghedty back with the Astros.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Judge what Dana Brown has said, kind of reading between
the lines, I wouldn't be surprise of Spencer Araghedtty maybe
back here after this start tonight, presuming everything goes well.
They may be cautious with it and give him one
more but I mean at this point, like if they
can bring him up here and like if he's only
built up to five innings.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's okay, Like they can.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They have Gusto, they'll have Gordon, they'll have Alexander, have
bulk guys that can go behind him if they need to.
But at this point they need bodies, like they need
like healthy or almost healthy bodies to come up here
and fill some innings. And I think, you know, you
could see Araghetty after this rehab start tonight, maybe come
back to the big leagues. I think Javier is probably
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right behind him, and then Garcia's probably behind both of
those guys. But yeah, look they're getting better, it's getting healthy.
You can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
That doesn't make the injuries more, That doesn't make that
easier to digest, but at least there is.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Some hope on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I feel like it was okay, Dana Brown's gonna be
wanting to make a move to of try and bolster
what is a pleasant surprise of a first place team
here in late July at the trade deadline. Now it
feels like he's gonna have to do something simply because
of need or is that kind of an accurate statement.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, I talked to him yesterday and sounds like
they are prioritizing offense, and I don't think that's gonna
change with Brandon Walter going on the ail because I
just said, like they've got pictures coming back. They seem
to feel confident in those pictures that are coming back.
Now you do run the risk. Like everybody looked at
Christian Hobby or what he did last night. He got
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three swings and misses all night, didn't miss many bats.
That just goes to show you that these guys are
not gonna come back as peak twenty twenty two, Christian
Hobvier like it's gonna take them some time. They've been
out a while, so efficacy is going to be an issue.
But right now I think their priority is offense. I think,
you know, a left handed bat that can play somewhere
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on the infield or somewhere in the outfield is their preference.
A left handed hitting second baseman would be their ultimate goal.
The Rays are not trading Brandon Law from what I understand,
so get that thought out of your head. I also
don't believe the Cardinals are trading Brendan Donovan. And even
if the Cardinals weren't trading Brendan Donovan, I don't think
the Astros had anywhere near what it takes to get
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an All Star with that much club control left.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So it could be.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
A guy like Willie Castro with the twins. You look
at some other left handed bats, you think of Cedric
Mullins with the Orioles, Ryan o'hearne with the Orioles. Those
are both rentals. So there's names out there, and there's
names that make sense for this team. It's just I
think the thing fans are gonna have to comulish themselves against.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Even like at the top of the.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Market, there's really not that guy that's gonna come in
and alter the trajectory of this team. What's gonna alter
the trajectory of this team is getting all of their
hurt guys back.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I'm gonna go ahead and say it today and we'll
see what happens over the week's time. The name you mentioned,
Willie Castro, I'm gonna put him in an Astro's unifor
before the end of the trade deadline coming up in
the next six days. I do think that's the player
that they are okay with giving up what it takes
to get him. I think they'll have enough to not
so called be outbid with what they have in their system.
So we'll make that as the as the WEX play
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on that one, we'll see if it pans out that way.
With what Joe said Chandler about live BP this weekend
for Jeremy Payanya and the fifty or so swings that
Jordan Alvarez took, without any reason to believe there's a
setback coming or the possibility that either or both of
them will just go through live BPS, et cetera. When
it gets there for each of them, obviously this weekend
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for Jeremy, and then their return is, you know, days away.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I can't imagine that Alvarez doesn't go on a rehab assignment.
I mean, he hasn't played in the game since May.
Like they're gonna it's gonna be a much slower process
with him, and I don't think it'll be just live
VPS and he's back in the lineup. I think they're
gonna take it really slow with him. Payne is a
different story. I think there is a possibility that if
he gets through.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
These these these.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Three days this weekend and Florida facing live pitching, comes
out of it. Okay, maybe they send him to play
a game or two in the minor leagues this coming week,
and then maybe he meets the team in Boston to
start after the trade deadline. Maybe he meets them there
and he's activated. That seems like a feasible solution, but
Joe has thought. It was asked today whether Paya would
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need a rehab assignment and he said he's just kind
of taking it one day in a time with him.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So they were noncommittal about that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But I can't envision a world where Alvarez only comes
back after facing you know, some live pitching on the
backfields in Florida, Like he's probably gonna have to go
and get into some games.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
This is a bit of a crystal ball question for you,
but it's because of the type of season he was having.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You're talking about Paynia.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
How confident are you that he can not pick up
where he left off, because that's just not how it works,
especially with the amount of time he's been out. But
you know, get back close to what he was providing
the Astros in this his best season by far.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'm more wondering what it's gonna look like, you know,
defensively for him. I mean, he broke his ribs, like
and at shortstop, you've got to dive, you've got to range,
you've got to make quick motions. Like I'm more curious
to see how that looks like is he full go?
Like if it were me, if I got my ribs
broken and I was coming back, I'd be pretty tentative
to like just go ahead and dive on them a bunch.
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I'd be tentative to like put too much trauma on them.
But that's what all the interesting to see is how
he comes along with that. You know, when he was
talking to us before he went to Florida, it sounded
like it really wasn't the swinging that was bothering him much.
He said he felt it a little bit when he swung,
but it was kind of more, you know, doing everyday activities.
And obviously if he's gonna be diving and you know,
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doing that kind of stuff sliding, that could that's obviously
trauma to the side, so that could hurt as well.
But I think he's I think he's primed to come
back and just step in. He hasn't been out that long.
It's not nothing, but he hasn't been out near the
left that Alvarez or Arraghetti or guys like that. Those
are the guys I'd be a little bit more worried about.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Big Baseball Weekend in Cooperstown. Billy Wagner goes into the
Hall a five player class, the third astro to go in,
after Visio and Bagwell, the fourth should be Jose Altuve.
You run through some of the projections and there's a
chance he gets three thousand hits, which is a magical number.
But everybody with twenty eight hundred hits or more is
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in the Hall of Fame that's eligible, other than Barry Bond's,
Rafael Palmero and Omar Visscal. He's gonna pre right around
twenty four hundred hits when this season ends. He's got
four more years of his contract. Four hundred more hits
is obviously easily attainable if health is there. No matter
what level he's really playing at. There are other circumstances.
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Is there any scenario you can envision that the voters
will not put Jose Altuve in the Hall of Fame
as the fourth astro to get there.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, No, I think he's barring, of course, barring like
some horrific injury that cuts his career short, which you'd
never want. I hope that doesn't happen. Yeah, I think
the thing I think the way it's most likely to go.
I think it's way most likely to go is the
way Beltron's candidacy has gone. There were a lot of
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people that panalized him by not voting for him his
first year on the ballot, and then his second year
on the ballot, all those.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
People voted for him. He didn't get in this year.
He was close. He's gonna get in next year.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I think that's probably the most likely outcome with jose
Al Tuve. We all know that he didn't participate in
the scheme, that he was against it, that he didn't
want it to happen. We all know that in Houston
that's been reported exhaustively. Maybe that spreads its way to
the voting conglomerate. Who but I mean, Joseel Tube is
not retiring for the next at least five years, and
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then he's got to wait five more years to get
on the ballot. So we're talking like almost at a
minimum ten years from now we're talking about this. People
still talking about the science ceiling scandal. Have are we
still on Earth? Have the oceans risen and are we
all dead?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Like who knows at that point? Yes? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, I mean I mean have the Texans won a
playoff game by then?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Like it's another playoff game? You mean another those years?
Oh my god, that's that's a loaded question. That's a
Matt Thomas special. How they look at training camp? I
hear you loud and there does it?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Does it look like a twenty five point loss to
the Chiefs this year?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Just maybe a twelve point?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So once again back to our opening question, which our
technology botched for us. We drafted the best wrestlers of
all time. Each of us got to select four. Could
Chandler Roam put together an elite list of his best wrestlers?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I'm not a WWE person.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
My dad is.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So I grew up like with my dad watching it
and I just remember, like being a little kid watching it.
And the first person that like I just remember, and
this is like an indelible memory with my dad is
the Rock. Like the Rock would come on and he
would do, can you smell what the rock is cooking?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Like that's just like a core childhood memory. So he's
probably number one, just off that aspect. I like Taul Cogan,
he was cool. Rick Flair, I have to say, because
Josh Reddick is a co host of my podcast, and.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't know. Andre the Giant. Andre the Giant seems fun.
He'll be number four.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I told you he was gonna surprise us.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Andre the Giant seems fun.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And then let me tell you. Let me tell you
how old I feel.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And I hear Chandler Rome say his dad watch the
Rock oh Man good stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, I know right, Like I actually did wrestle in
high school, like I did like actual like Greco Roman
and like freestyle wrestling, so like I know, I know
what it is, but I just never got into the
theatrics of the of the w W.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Someone. If someone was writing up a story or a
recap or a bio of Chandler Rome comma high school wrestler,
what would they be writing about? How would they describe
your abilities to tell the skills?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I cut a lot of weight, Like, I cut a
lot of weight to get to like a lower weight class,
to help the team.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I was very okay.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I beat the people I was supposed to beat, the
people that were supposed to beat me.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Kicked my a word so I was very okay, you
got squashed.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
This is what you're saying, because you you could cut
a meme promo if you had to in pro wrestling.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh probably, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think if you I think, if you gave me
the right substances, if you gave me some time, I
could I could cut a great promo.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Define substances.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh that's not that's not okay.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
All right, It is Chandler Rome every single week here
on Friday afternoon at five o'clock. Chandler as usual.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You bring it, We thank you. We'll talk to you
next week. The A on Sports Talk seven ninety