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September 19, 2025 12 mins
The Athletic's Chandler Rome hops on with Wex and Cole Thompson to break down perhaps the most important series of the season at Daikin Park, plus the return of Issac Parades. 
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Eighty five o'clock on a Friday, We bypass football at five,
talk a little Astros Baseball, Major League Baseball. Chandler Roam
of the Athletic covering the Astros joins us here from
Dykin Park.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is the Astros and Mariners.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, they get set to close out the regular season
at Dykin Park, game seventy nine, eighty and eighty one,
with everything we know that's on the line, same record
for both of these teams, elite pitching matchups throughout and
certainly tonight, I would say two of the five six
seven best pitchers in the American League going for their
respective teams.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
The return of Esak Peretta.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So a bunch of things obviously to get into here, Chandler,
But I'm curious what you think about the fact this
is the first time the Astros have played the Mariners
since the deadline. The Mariners have been awesome since the deadline,
second best team in the American League since the deadline,
and the Astros have been anything but in that point
in time. So the five and five record they have

(01:00):
against them, the fact that they're still tied overall this
season is just flat out this is a better Mariners
team than they've seen all year.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And they're gonna get their three best pitchers. You know,
George Kirby, who's going tomorrow, has given them sits basically
since he's.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Been in the big leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Brian wu is probably the best pitcher in the American
League that no one's talking about. And you know, Logan
Gilbert opening day starter. Obviously, you know it's been very
tough on the Ashes before.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
But yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Can kind of throw out that five and five record
that the teams had previously because, like you said, this
is a completely different Mariners team. They have a Heneo Suarez,
who was the big crown jewel of the deadline at
the time, that really has not been good since he
got to Seattle. I think he's a batting seventh tonight.
The guy that's really kind of transformed that lineup is
Josh Naylor. Really exactly what they needed. A left handed

(01:51):
bat that puts the ball in play, does not strike out,
really changes the dynamic of their lineup in the middle
of their lineup, and a is a sneaky bass steeler
at I think he's something like twenty for twenty on
base on stealing bases this year. And if you look
at Josh Naylor, that'd be the last thing you'd expect
from him is to be a base Steeler. But I mean,
this is a really good Mariners lineup. This You can
put this one up there with the Yankees as maybe

(02:12):
the best lineup in the American League, Brian.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean the pitching.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Their pitching is not as good as it was last year,
but it's still very, very good.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
This is a this is a complete Mariners.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Team, and this is a team that is playing with
a lot of confidence.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
They I believe they've won eleven.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Of their last twelve games. They're feeling themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
The vibes are high, and they're not and I.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Think we've seen this before with them. They're not scared.
Like they're not scared of the Astros. I don't think
the Astros intimidate them at all. They're not going to
come in here and be afraid, if you will, this
is a team that's very confident in itself.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, Anio Suarez has done probably what many would have expected.
He's hit ten homers in forty four games with Seattle.
He's done almost nothing else. He's hitting one to eighty two.
He struck out sixty four times in his hundred sixty
five at bats in his forty four games there. But
he is what he is. He hits home runs, and

(03:05):
the Astros know that very well. Over the last handful
of years, he might be facing the MVP, and cal
Rawley just curious as we sit here with nine games
to go for both the Yankees and the Mariners, not
knowing what those nine games will produce.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Who do you think who would be the MVP in
your book?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I hate to do this see it all live on air,
but I got to plead the fifth because I have
an American League MVP boy ah, and we are not
allowed to discuss our thinking.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
We're not allowed to do any of that.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I guess you will see in November when the
award is announced. But yeah, I have a vote, so
and I mean, I'll just tell you this, I have
not decided.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Who I am going to vote for.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I'm leaning one way, but I have not decided who.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I'm gonna vote for.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's great race.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Fifty six home runs is what cal Raley will bring
into the lineup tonight. The catcher that second in an
order that's super powerful will steal bases. In addition to
Josh Naylor, and you saw a lot of that in
just this last series with the Rangers.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Walks are doubles, singles are doubles.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Jiner Diaz, we've seen an uptick in outs on stolen
base attempts. Is it him or do you think the
pitchers have done a slightly better job of holding runners on.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I think it all when it always goes both ways.
Just like when you criticize, you can't just criticize one
part of the battery. When you praise, you got to
praise both parts of the battery.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
On getting better at that.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, they're slidestepping a little bit more, they're holding the
ball a little bit more, they're varying their times to
home plate and being quicker. That's helped, And I think
it also helps that like they're keying in on the
guys that I think they know are going to steal bases,
and that their focus is enhancing when those guys get
on base. Some pictures, it's easier for some pissures, it's

(04:47):
easier than others. You know, Christian Hobby is always going
to be a guy that's going to be very very
easy to steal on. He's very slow to home plate,
has never held runners very well. Troumber, on the other hand,
is pretty quick to home. Played Sam with Jason Alexander Hunter,
Brown's kind of in the middle. So you know it's
it's the battery itself is doing your job because Yainer's
underlying stuff, the arm strength of pop time. It's all

(05:10):
been maybe a tick below with your accustomed to scene
for him, but certainly not anything to cause alarm.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Obviously, with the return of Escach Perettis, one thing is
that everybody should be able to recognize is happening tonight
For the first time, Carlos Korea and Esoch Perettis will
be in the lineup together. There's no Carlos Korea at
trade if ESOC Perettis doesn't go down and miss those
fifty five games, Zach cole BET's fifth. Just the options
available to Joe and just the who is now out

(05:37):
there for him even without Alvarez. What do you think
of what they have at their disposal offensively over the
next at least six games. I don't know for sure
that Jordon is not available after those six games.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I can't decide if batting Zach Cole fifth is
an indictment on their lineup or is something to be
praised of what Zach Cole has done.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
But when you're batting a.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Rookie in his sixth big league game fifth and what
is the biggest game of your season, I think it
speaks a lot to what's behind him because they you know,
he is. They're riding the hot hand right now. It's
pretty obvious, you know. You know, there's been a lot
of times when there's been a lot of frustration in
recent years about you know, sticking with guys in certain
spots through struggles like that's over, like they are, they

(06:23):
are riding the hot hand now, Zach Cole is. You know,
even his outs have been loud outs. You know, look,
he's going to face he faced the ground the other night.
He's gonna face Brian wu tonight. But it's not it's
not minor league pitching anymore. So I don't know that
you can expect him to keep the toward Street going.
But getting Paradis back is going to really really help them.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Just the amount of.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Pitches he sees, even if he's not one hundred percent.
And he even said he's not one hundred percent. He
said he's close to it, not but not one hundred percent.
I would not expect him to be going first to third,
second to home. I don't think they want him to
do that. I think they would prefer if he hits
the ball out of the ballpark and he can just
jog around the bases. But just as presence, just his
ability to foul pitches off, his ability to see pitches.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Ability to make a pitcher work.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think that is something that as everybody that's watched
this team knows that they have been really struggling with recently.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Jaylerome joining us here on the A team as he
does each and every Friday from the athletic covering the
Astros in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I brought this up earlier.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm curious if you think there's something to it over
the final nine games and then the postseason. Jeremy Paynia's
return from his injury has spanned the last forty one games.
The first thirty eight games, he scored more than one
run in a game zero times. The last three games,
each of the Rangers games, he scored two runs in
a game all three times scored seven runs in the

(07:39):
series was phenomenal every which way you could look at it, defensively, offensively,
jump starting the offense, hitting the opposite field home run.
Is he still the same player that returned that wasn't
quite the All Star Jeremy Paynia or maybe something's reclicked
or even health wise that maybe there's more of this
awesome tone setting best shortstop in baseball to the final

(08:01):
nine games.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I mean, he's obviously been better. He had a
great series against the Rangers. He had been stuffling before that.
That Ranger series just a little bit he'd seen you'd
seen him not take some great at bats, but the
run scoring set, you know, he can't drive himself in.
So I think there is also a testament to the
guys behind him that he has gotten on base that
you know, Altuve Albarez when he was in there, you

(08:25):
know Perea, that they've been able to drive him in
and make him go station in the station, play that
kind of baseball because you know, the one thing Jeremy
Payne does provide. But he's on basis he's the fastest
go on the team. He's one of the better base runners.
Whose fastest go on the team. You know, all you
got to do is put the ball in play. If
you put the ball in play at the right place,
the right side of the field, you know he can
he can reach some havocs there, he can steal bases,

(08:47):
he can do things like that. So he's been better
and they need that. They need as I just said,
they's Zach colebat exist in this lineup, So they need
the top four hitters in this lineup to perform as
advertised if they want this to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
The season RBI leader for the Mariners is batting second.
He has one hundred and eighteen RBIs. The season RBI
leader for the Astros is batting seventh. It's Christian Walker,
he has eighty two. You mentioned what you expected the
vibe and confidence to be of this Mariners team, coming
in having played so well since the deadline, having played
so well, winning eleven of their last twelve. It seems

(09:24):
rhetorical because this is still the golden age of Astros baseball.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But aren't the Astros.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Don't you feel like they will be plenty properly amped
up and or subdued for the magnitude of these games.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh yeah, I mean this is I mean for lack
of a Betta word, This is nothing so them, like
they've been in the core of this team has been
in very much bigger stakes. They've you know, they've been
in World Series Game sevens before, they've been in elimination
games or their seasons are on the line. Their season
is not on the line with this series. Like, look,
if you get swept, it can get a little icy.

(09:59):
You got to go do some work in California next week.
But there's season's not on the line here. Would they
like to win the division absolutely, Would they like to
win this series, absolutely, But you know they're not.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Going to make this bigger than it is.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I think the monkey is far more in the Mariner's
back just because of their history, right, Like, I don't
think they haven't won the divisions in two thousand and one.
They've only had that one playoff appearance in twenty twenty
two that the Astros ended. Like, it's a lot more
there's a lot more just stress and maybe kind of
pressure on the Mariners than anything the Astros may feel.
But yeah, I have no worries about the Astros being

(10:32):
up for this or not making this too big or
not pressing you know, I keep going back to a
Carls Korea set a couple of weeks ago. When I
think it was, I asked, and you know it was
after a bad offensive game. I asked if he thought
the team was pressing and he said that in this
clubhouse have played for championships before. I don't think a
regular season game is going to cause us to press it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Certainly hope it plays into how they go about the
business tonight, tomorrow and Sunday night. And I certainly agree
with you and expect that they will. And you're right,
this team has been through a lot of this much.
Even with guys like Zach Cole in the lineup and
newcomers like Walker and Sanchez out there, A lot of
the guys, especially in tonight's lineup, have been through a
lot of this before. Just one other question, as we
usually send you out the door with, did you catch

(11:13):
a post game with Brian Kelly last weekend and the
subsequent apology?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Curious if you did? In your thoughts, I.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Did you know? I mean, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
You don't want to go in there with a bad question,
you know. I know Demico is always looking for journalism
tips and kind of how to instruct journalists. I would
tell Dimico not to take a page from Brian Kelly's book.
He's got other problems. Though, maybe his team can score
some points this week.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean, all that being said, it's the first time
he's ever answered a question as LSU's head coach while
being three and ohero.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
They're winning, good, yeah, I mean, I'll take a win
over Florida any day. Big Southeastern Louisiana matchup this week.
Wet you got the you land the points on that
one LSU Southeastern.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I already made the mistake of laying the points with LSU,
and they had a similar type team. I believe it
was LA Tech earlier this year and they failed.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So not this time. You're not gonna get me twice.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Ah good, good, you learn from your mistis.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm trying to do my best, Chandler. We always appreciate
the time. Look forward to more of the coverage this
weekend and on into October.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
With the Astros.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
All right, thanks guys, you got it.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Jaylor Rome with the Athletic covering the Astros, We got
it for you right here tonight six o'clock with the
Astros on deck show a little after seven o'clock with
first pitch. Robert Steve will have that for you right
here on your home for Astros Baseball Sports Talk seven
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Speaker 3 (12:36):
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