Then There Were 2, Pressly Gone, Maybe Bregman Back? Rockets Rule Cleveland

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adham talking your teams.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team A team.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And then there were two Your super Bowl matchup is set, America.
I'm sure you are thrilled. It is the A Team
Sports Talks seven ninety. It's a Monday edition of the
program wex and AC with you taking you until five
point thirty and then technically things switch over to Rockets
pregame conversation and the Rockets, who are one of the

(00:41):
hottest teams in basketball yet again, not necessarily because they've
won so many in a row, but just because of
who they've beaten and how they've beaten them lately.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
They'll take on the defending champs tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So we'll have that for you right here on your
home for Rockets Basketball Sports Talk seven ninety. But yes,
the matchup is set. The Philadelphia Eagles looked like they
out class their opponent, and then we had last night's
capper and I don't know, I mean, I feel like
it was more egregious in the Texans game, even though
there were maybe fewer plays to dissect. And I'm still

(01:14):
not prepared to come in here and say, well, the
officials cost the Bills the game, especially since the tush
push like jump the shark in the process of that
game yesterday, but wax the tush push. Yeah, every time
Josh Allen takes it for a sneak and.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh yeah, they don't because they don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Nobody does it.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Eagles do it. Everybody else doesn't know what they're doing.
I would never call anybody else's push a toush push.
That's why they don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, they're awful at it, whatever you want to call it.
It wasn't working against the Chiefs, even when it looked
like it worked against the Chiefs. Because even if it
works against the Chiefs, sometimes the officials come in and say, well,
we can't get on the same page ourselves, let alone
let anything go against the Chiefs in this kind of situation,
especially in a crucial fourth quarter or fourth down.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Ye that it's the worst thing that officials do. And
it has nothing to do with the Chiefs. They keep
playing so many games. It comes up in their games.
This is the worst thing. Literally, this is the worst
thing that the official do. It's not holding, it's not
pass interference, not roughing the passer.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's not time.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's not tackles rocking back and forth in their stance.
It's spotting the football. It's been a disastrous situation for
about twenty five thirty fifty one hundred years, ever since
the NFL got started, and the more technology we have,
the more annoying it is. It's not that hard to
fix it. They just refuse to do it. The other
things are pretty much human error that can't be fixed.

(02:33):
I did interfere with him, well, I think he did well.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I think he didn't. Well, let's go look at I
get it.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
All those things that you can make mistakes, you should
not be making the kind of mistakes they're making with
spotting the football. What we saw in yesterday's game becomes
a big deal because of the magnitude of the game.
It wasn't even the worst job they've done in this postseason,
but the magnitude of the game is so great more
people are paying attention to it. They missed the back
to back plays, the catch from Kincaid and then the

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sneak from out, and they missed both of those spots.
It's easily correctable. It doesn't necessarily mean either one of
them are first downs, although each of them look like
a first down always a good idea when you know
that they've botched a spot, run to the line and
run a play super fast. That isn't going to work.
Lots of teams do it. They're all stupid bills. Just
stamp that thing on their bingo card. It's just absolute lunacy.

(03:20):
I can't believe these teams keep doing it. You got
so many coaches. You got all these coaches going on
interviews and trying to impress people. Why don't you ask
them that, Hey man, when officials mess up a spot
and you want to run up to the play and
run something as fast as you can, would you do
that if you're the head coach, if you're the play callers,
that something you'd endorse. Well, if you say yes and
they hire you, then you're not the problem. The owner

(03:41):
and the GM who hired you are.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You're the cowboys.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Too many of them are doing that. We do have
that for us today. Three different coaches in some former
fashion meeting with their new cities, Brian Schottenheimer, Steven and
Jerry Jones, sitting down for about an hour's worth of
press conference questions. Very friendly, no animosity between the media
and the Cowboys. Nothing but rainbows and man, this is great.

(04:05):
Things are gonna be awesome here moving forward or not.
So definitely some audio from Jerry or Brian or Steven,
because it's all they were sitting down and I don't
think anyone of them ever had the mic in their hand,
but almost everything out of their mouths was like, all right,
we'll see you next time, Mike drop moments because just
it was a comedy. Yeah, I was out today, so
I had an opportunity to tune the things out where

(04:26):
I was and listen to some of the press conference.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
It was awesome.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Three straight up comedians at the podium in Dallas for
that one. Aaron Glenn met with the media in New
York for his team. That is his team. If you
had any doubt about why he took the job, he
told you very very clearly today. So definitely going to
give you a chance to hear from former Houston Texans
cornerback Aaron Glenn, former third overall pick in the twenty

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two thousand and two Expansion Draft by the Houston Texans
and now back to the Jets. He had been previously
drafted in the real draft and played a nice career
there and elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And Liam Cohen.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Met with the people in Dude, you're gonna have a
tough time winning there earlier this afternoon, So we can
definitely hear a little bit from each of those. Obviously,
with the matchup you mentioned, there's a lot to discuss,
some of it purely how those teams played the game
in which of the teams made more plays. I think
that's now twelve consecutive postseason games, all of them here

(05:25):
in twenty twenty five were the team that made more
plays won the game. There's only one game left. The
thirteenth playoff game will eliminate the thirteenth team and we
will have one team left standing. It will either be
the Eagles getting some sort of revenge on the Kansas
City Chiefs two seasons ago a field goal in the
final few seconds after a controversial call which the players

(05:48):
involved both agreed was correct. That field goal gave the
Chiefs one of their recent Super Bowl wins, but just
a three point went over the Eagles. Eagles dominated thanks
to turnovers over the Washington Commander. So the rookie run
for Jaden Daniels concluded, if it's not an Eagle's revenge
victory in the rematch, then, I mean, you just have

(06:11):
to scream the word dynasty even harder amidst all the
other things we will dissuess today and maybe for each
of the nine future shows that proceede the Super Bowl
coming up two sundays from now. Of course you've counted
well five shows a week.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, two weeks.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's you, though.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
There is a lot to say about why they're there
and what it is in front of them. Their own
owner said it right there at the podium. Their announcer
said it as the p RNE yardage was gained on
the final real offensive play of the game. They're trying
to do what nobody's ever done before. It would put
them in uncharted territory. It will put them at least

(06:49):
on a better footing than anybody else for this particular feat.
They won't be the winningest Super Bowl franchise ever, but
they'll just keep making their way towards that end, a
third straight Super Bowl victory.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, it is now one went away for the Chiefs.
So let's get to the local stuff here. Yeah, fan
fest this weekend. Okay, so you were obviously there. I
somehow managed to miss, like my fifty fifth consecutive in
a row. I actually want to go to that event,
but it never ends up happening. For whatever reason. I
actually thought I was going to be at this one,

(07:22):
and I would have liked to have been at this one,
especially considering everything that's going on. What Dana Brown said
about any number of things versus what say insert national
media talking head over here said about Alex Bregman potentially
coming back to the Astros and the fact that it's
you know, Ryan Presley is now no longer a member

(07:43):
of the team, and how that relates is just it is.
Its high comedy to.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Me, Yeah, you know, we have our own ways to
kind of say things. You and I obviously are on
social media quite a bit. Could do it via podcast,
do it on a blog post obviously, could do it
here on the show, and everybody else the same way.
But there are those who think, oh my gosh, they
really are serious about Alex Bregman.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Look what they just did.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
They'd said, well, Alex isn't signed yet, So let's circle
back with our little roster here. In our cap situation,
which is relative to baseball, it's really just a CBT situation. Uh,
I didn't realize this.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Did you guys realize this?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Did you know how much money Ryan Presley makes? Did
you know if we trade Ryan Presley, then we can
open up money to go spend on Alex Bregnan.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Did you know that? I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I wasn't I wasn't paying close enough attention. I'm kind
of like Jerry Jones running this team. I don't have
any idea what's going on. And so they put two
and two together and they think it equals four. They're
really almost I can't say they're completely unrelated, because there's
levels to the CBT and so every dollar certainly matters.
But they didn't trade Ryan Presley so they could say,

(08:55):
all right, sweet, now we have room and more money
available to us, thanks Jim, to spend on Alex Bregman.
From the moment the Tigers were dancing at Minute Made Park,
the Astros front office knew the likelihood of Ryan Presley
pitching for them ever again was very low. It's not

(09:16):
because he isn't good. Their bullpen just got worse by
the way, And it's not because they don't appreciate what
he's done here.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They absolutely do.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
On the mound for the most recent World Series Championship,
Kyle Tucker the final out of his final pitch and
caught by Kyle Tucker. They're both now in Chicago. Deal
has not reportedly been made official, but physicals really all
that stand in the way, in particular is on exactly
what the will be the return beyond prospects, how the

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money will be spent on Presley next year, some of
it from Houston, some of it from Chicago. They want
Alex Bregman to play third base for them, but they've
always wanted that, and considering he doesn't have a contract.
Joe spotus at with Brian and Sean during their portion
of our FanFest coverage over the final three or two hours.

(10:06):
Dana Brown sat down with us during our first three
hours of coverage, Dan Matthews, Ross and myself, and he
had just spoken to the media right before he sat
down with us, and he had just spoken to the
media the night prior as part of the caravan, and
his story has not changed at all. Right before I
walked in here, I had my roller bag and other
assorted items needed for the show, and so I pushed

(10:28):
the door open and then it closed. Well that hasn't
happened for the Astros yet. That's all they're basically willing
to acknowledge. From a front office's teammates. They had some
interesting responses to the many, many questions they got over
the course of the afternoon, many with us Jeremy Pania
among them, and Hunter Brown among them, and what he's

(10:48):
meant to them and how much he could mean to
them saddled over there at third base or second base. Well,
Jose Altuve plays left field.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
It's there's so many things, and we have to take
a break.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
We'll get to them, and obviously we'll get to America's nightmare,
which is this Super Bowl unless you live in the
Two Cities, America's nightmare.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Every time a team gets to take the field against
the Chiefs, they become America's favorite team. Well, I'm going
to be Texans to the Bills, to the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And never the Cowboys. I'm going to be the anti
Nate Burlson today. And I'll explain that as the afternoon progresses,
because I for the first time in my life, and
I'm not it's not even for effect. I have like
next to no desire to watch this game. I really
do Super Bowl party is gonna suck. It's not happening exactly.
It already wasn't gonna happen, but now I'm like, I'm
not throwing a party to watch.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Some pizza, some pretzels, some SuDS, some chill drinks of
other varieties.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
What time you putting the game on?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Never?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'd rather watch those Winches on Bravo argue with each
other for a three and a half hours.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Are you throw an alternative programming party?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, Gordy's wife is down. If I do that, I
can't wait to see what it is. You're doing a
Bravo super Bowl party non super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, if it can't, it has to be completely unrelated.
It has to be a random nothing to do with it,
not aware that the super.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Bowl is on. Type of program I'd rather have everyone
over and say, all right, doesn't he have to be
in English? Change of plans, We're watching Top Gun, Maverick
in the Theater or something of that nature, because it's
going to be more.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Entertaining than this.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I am down. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I might
change my mind, but I doubt it. So yeah, a
lot to get to today. On a Monday edition of
the program.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety back.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
To Adam Clinton had Adam.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Wexler, the eight on Sports Talk seven ninety two.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It is the eight team Sports Talk seven ninety I'm
gonna keep calling it this. This is America's Nightmare super Bowl.
I saw one of those you know they make these
memes within like minutes of the final horn, and you
had who you're rooting for in the Super Bowl. And
everybody's seen some semblance of this before. This version had
a little red dot where Kansas City is, well, green

(13:06):
dot up in the northeast where Philadelphia is, and the
rest of the map was gray. And so when you
go over to the key that tells you what those
colors represent. Red is obviously the Chiefs, Green is obviously
the Eagles, and gray is a meteor strike. That's what
America is hoping for in this. And I'm gonna call
it America's Nightmare super Bowl. I can handle it well.

(13:28):
I'd like to continue. I don't want to root for
a Philadelphia team because those people are absolute cretans. There's
some of the worst scum of the earth, both as
human beings and as sports fans. Obviously, but if the
number one ranked defense in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Can't get it done. I don't know what to do anymore.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, this number one ranked defense stuff is kind of nonsense.
I mean, didn't the Texans already play the number one
ranked defense in their playoff game against the Chargers? I mean,
is that the team that gives up the fewest points
the team that creates the most turnovers.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Looking at the game yesterday, did you didn't you feel like,
even though the score was closer on the scoreboard at
the end of things, that the Texans did a far
better job of getting after Pat Mahomes except for the
fact that they were you know, yeah, Penny.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
And I thought I saw the Bills offense have zero turnovers, right, Yeah,
and they scored twenty nine points.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well yeah, if you defend the Chiefs better then the Bills,
did you win?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's pretty simple. Yeah, But the Bills are not like
a terrible defense to the team. No, not overall, not
this year. Yeah, this year specifically, are they bottom five?
They're bad? I mean, I'm not saying I believe me.
I'm saying the Texans are better.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I remember some of the shootout games that Josh was
in later in the season as they continue to get
I mean a lot of them had to do with
some players that were no longer on the field for them,
but they weren't a good defense.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
One of them played here their defense, I mean, I
mean their offense, not their defense. But that can effect
obviously the other side. I came out of that game
yesterday thinking about the Texans. That's what I'm gonna do.
I don't give a crap about the Chiefs going to
another Super Bowl. I don't give a crap about the
NFL's Instagram account being overtaken for multiple posts about Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I don't it's it's nauseating.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I know people get sick of winners, and that's just
the nature of sports fans in this country. Although I
never remembered that with the Bulls, that was like it's
superseded like into pop culture type of things, like you
have total jackasses, like I won't even say his name,
but he's on FS one and he's a total homer.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well there's a huge difference between Mahomes and Jordan.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
For it not according to that guy, it's the same person. Well,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
An individual can think that, but America is telling him
loudly and clearly, as I have with every other athlete
in the history of America. Lebron, there's nobody like Michael
right from a national culture, role, yes, visibility, pitch man popularity.
Like if Michael Jordan was playing basketball from two thousand

(15:59):
and seven to twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Four, it would be unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
It would be insane, the amount of I mean, I
don't know if I have time to practice because my
nine billionth endorsement commercial I need to film right now.
I mean, he would be It would be insane.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It maybe there would be blowback if and to me,
Lebron's way ahead of Mahomes. Also because you're paying your
money to go see what Lebron could do, You're paying
your money to go see Jordan do his thing. He's
one of five guys out there. If he's great, they win.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I mean, Pat Mahomes usually is great and they win.
But Tom Brady's more popular than Pat Mahomes. Has ever
been so disgusted for Pat. It's got a ways to go.
From a, oh, we always hate the most popular guy.
He is the most popular guy in the league. From
I think every which way you could look at it.
But if any I mean, they're not that many mega

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mega celebrity stars, pop stars, music stars, actor actresses. Taylor's
clearly one of them. She also happens to be a
in a very common group of athletes or celebrities and
music stars that are willing to indicate which way they lean,
which also lends itself to massive amounts of interest, both

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negatively positively. Yeah, which way they lean. But if somebody
first from another team was dating someone with massive, massive interest,
which they're not, and they're not that many people that
could compete with her, then the networks would be all
over it as well. I don't know that it would
reach this level. How about the Game Yesterday? There is
somebody and he plays the same position as Mahomes. Yeah,

(17:35):
she's just an actress, nothing more, that's it. She sings,
she's nothing, no offense to her compared to Taylor Swift
in popularity. She acts in movies and sing songs. Yeah,
but again she's not in the middle of everything because
she doesn't carry weight.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Ah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well, first sparing her to Taylor Swift in that sense.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
But you should be in the coverage of it because
that's one of the reasons that it's happening.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And we'll get to this next segment.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I did love seeing the comments in those posts, though,
because they went about as you would expect, but we
almost made it through.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Like I do appreciate the Chiefs at least doing their
part in one regard, let's beat the Bills without Travis
Kelce because he basically was not used from a reception standpoint.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
He's on the field. He much to your chagrin. Yes
hashtag stone cold locks.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I mean, this is why gambling is awesome and the
worst and the worst. I mean I spent how many
straight months, yes, saying not the same guys, not the
same guys, not the same guy. But they guarded him,
beg him to go off against the Texans.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
He went off. He did go off, so I might
as well say, yeah, of course we go over seventy yards.
They used him as I mean, they would have thrown
him the vaulf that was the better play. I just
did it. This segment, though, I talked about how the
Texans were a much better defensive resistance to the Chiefs,
and yet they didn't guard him at all, and he
went off and the Bills took him out of the game.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Well, I would say otherwise the Texans have elite corners
were they have elite players up front. Well, if the
elite players are up front, are getting to Pat Mahomes
all game long, what is his outlet? I better throw
it short, right, I better throw it over the middle
all day He threw it short and over the middle
all day long. To Travis Skelz, I appreciates Allen did
not have to do that. Josh Allen also buys even

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more time than the guy who out rushed him, C J.
Stroud against the Chiefs, barely but still still. It's just
a different way to do things. And then conversely, like
the Bills defensively, their secondary took a hit immediately with
the concussion, and their secondary, as with the rest of
their defense, it's just not as good as the Texas.

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They don't have as good a personnel, They're not run
quite as well. They just don't have the players for it.
It showed all year long, and it showed yesterday.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I wonder if Josh Allen wasn't, you know how, like
like the Dodgers try to make themselves underdogs, like their
fans try to somehow make themselves under twenty five. Yes,
and I saw it this weekend. Oh well, all these
guys were out last year. So because Ben Verlanders said
if the Stro's resigned Bregman, they're gonna win the World Series.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
So immediately people were hopping into his mention in this.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, some guys like this, Oh dude, just because your
brother plays for the team. I'm like, wake up, man,
he plays for the Giants, now, you moron. But they
tried to say, oh, look at all these guys who
were out for the Dodgers. Uh huh, and their payroll
is in the billions.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
And some of those guys will be back right this
year at some point they're going to add to the
Defendland Championship squad.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But the point of all that is, I came away
from yesterday's game two things. I'm really impressed with the
Texans defense, which again you keep talking about, like the
Rockets or kids, they're gonna get better next year.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I think they might lose some guys.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
That the only issue with how they've been put together
is gonna come up this offseason. The kids, the draft picks,
obviously they will be back, and anyone who signed more
than a one year contract will be back. But the
second they walked off the field in Kansas City, Daniel
Hunter entered at the final year of his contract, he
signed a two year deal. Everybody essentially that's on the
d line other than Will Anderson, it's a question mark

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about what they will be for the Texans moving forward,
if they're even Texans at all. The good news is
you've got so many others that aren't in that boat.
Christian Harris, Henry Toatoa, Aziz Al Shaier, He's got two
more years on his deal. The other guys are still
on rookie contracts after being drafted. Your secondary has four
players still on their rookie contracts, all Texans draft picks.

(21:22):
And then Jimmy Ward unfortunately, could have easily been just
not on the roster and there wouldn't be any real
ramifications financially for it. But they extended him during the season,
so he has another year on his contract. But Petrie, Stingley, Junior, Lassiter,
and Bullock all under extremely team friendly deals.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Those are all studs that you just mentioned. You just
rattled them off.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, one of them will be on a team friendly
deal for a shorter period of time.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Than the others. Stingley's deal for next year.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Will still be pretty easy to handle and manage, but
I expect him to be playing next year following signing
a long term extension with the Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
The other thing I brought out of this before we
go to break is that Josh Allen, oh my gosh,
I wonder if he even won some of these, if
he would be getting the type of sympathy. Well, he
wouldn't because he would have actually advanced. But I get it, man,
and I don't feel like it was his fault. I
really like of all the things that you could blame

(22:19):
on the Bills losing this particular episode chapter of this
non rivalry, because it's Yankees astros. Literally, I just I
can't look at him and say, well, Josh Allen should
have made this play. Well, the one I could say
that about it wasn't his fault. The guy didn't catch
the ball and he should have.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, there's a couple of different angles. I hope you've
seen them all, but the one behind Josh Allen when
the dialed up blitz by Spagnola was phenomenal on fourth down,
had guys in his face immediately and still bought enough
time to throw to an extremely open Kincaid, so open
that the ball was in the air forever and Kincaid's
path was altered. He moved over in the path of

(22:57):
the ball and then went to catch it and just
simply didn't Josh Allen against the Kansas City Chiefs in
the postseason, it's definitely worth discussing about, you know, the
road that he's been on and why he keeps ending
in the same exact place every single year when Kansas
City is on the other side. Plenty of other things
about the game itself. I don't know how much discussion
about the dominant Eagles offense needs to be said, but

(23:21):
it'd be interesting to see how the matchup will work
against the Chiefs. Like, you know, we have nine more
shows to get there before we really dig in on
Eagles Chiefs to recent Super Bowl winners, to recent Super
Bowl combatants is that they played two years ago against
one another, and obviously heavy, heavy discussion. Probably we table
everything else we had for the next fourteen segments and

(23:43):
strictly talk about the Pro Bowl games which are coming
up this weekend in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
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Speaker 3 (24:08):
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Speaker 4 (24:11):
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that they said on social media.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
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the one who person.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
No one will believe you're the best of X.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Nothing's gonna ever top you know you're the best of
X posting every single day. You know you're the best
of it, breaking the entire Internet. That's the time.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
We'll eat you with Best of X too thirty each
and every weekday afternoon here on the eighteen. And really
it's a merely for the parody song. It's the best
of anything that's out there on social best.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Of parody intros on this show.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
U Yeah, we got a few.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
We look at the X platform a lot, we look
at IG every now and then TikTok sometimes hits the
airwaves here at two thirty, But it's pretty much a
free for all. Best of X just happened to be
the easiest song to write A parody to thank you
mister perform it. Yeah, and performance I wrote and perform it.
I am a singer songwriter.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
That is a fact.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
So yes, that's what we have for you here today.
There's a couple of different ways to go with it.
We talked so much about the game yesterday, seemed like
this was a good enough place to start for me,
at least because it includes what I like most to
bring to best of X. When people go back and forth,
you know, the comments, the replies, the you're not really

(25:42):
you're not really saying to me what I think you're
saying to me. The play we've already talked about, the
fourth down play. You had trips left, you had Shakir
going in motion way behind Josh Allen. You have coach
bags of the Chiefs drawn off in awesome blitz and
it's in Alan's face almost immediately, still gets off a
great throw all things can see to Kincaid, who merely
didn't catch the ball, and I'm sure nine times out

(26:03):
of ten he would have and they would moved on
and maybe had a chance to kick the game time
fieldal or better. Because this play took place at the
two minute warning, so pretty obvious to me and probably
everybody else watching, this is going to be a couch
potatoes dream, a an amateur film viewer's dream. I'm gonna
break this play down and tell me what they should

(26:24):
tell you, what they should have done. I'm gonna break
this play down and say why Coach Bags was so great?
Any number of different ways to go through it, and
a bunch of people did. A One such person will
call him Ben Solak. He's an NFL analyst at ESPN,
so not just some person who has social media at
his disposal and you know, says here's what they should
have done.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'm an expert.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
He gets paid to offer his opinion to people at
the Worldwide Leader, whether it's behind the scenes or every
now and then on social media, and he writes with
a five minute worth of video accompanying it. Here's why
I think Josh Allen should have thrown the swing pass
to Khalil Shakir. He was the player in motion I
mentioned that was behind him at the point of snap.

(27:04):
I think the zone man pre snap tells got him
off Shakir early, but that's still your best option. He
makes a great throat to Kincad that should have been caught,
so he recognizes that the play that was made probably
could have worked at the receiver tight end catches the ball.
So you're familiar with when these Usually it's for big plays,
you know, interception return, seventy yard touchdown runs.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Basically Barcley's they have the dots.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
You've seen the animation next Gen Stats, I believe is
those who presents the players in the form of dots
and you see every which direction that they go. So
he added that to it, and he added no idea
and the word ideas in all caps. Why Josh did
not throw the ball to Shakir. So he's pretty confident
that this is the way to go. He got quote tweeted,

(27:52):
I'll tell you after who wrote this. I actually really
like your passion and knowledge for the game. But sitting
in your comfortable swivel chair with the heater on in
the house and a clicker in hand makes the game
very easy. Having two unblocked, unimpeded defenders, believe it or not,
is pretty difficult to navigate. In the interest of credibility,

(28:12):
please don't ever pause the tape again to talk about
the space between the unblocked full speed rushers and how
the QB just needs to turn his hips and make
the throw.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Now, would you like to know who quotes that?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yes, that's what I was waiting on.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
That's former Houston Texans quarterback at Fitzmagic Underscore fourteen.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
He had some doozies yesterday.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
So they got better because our friend Ben responded, of course,
you know. Ryan added, I don't have the camera angle
from behind the play yet, but we'll give you a
better sense of the pressure Josh was dealing with. And
if you read what I gave you from Ryan's post,
it wasn't super derogatory. And I think he only mentioned
the swivel chair because you can see Ben in the

(28:55):
video because he put himself on top of it and
you can see he's right there in his.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
House, so he made mention of that.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Ben's response was thanks Fitz exclamation point. So he's gonna
do this in a pleasant way. Two unblocked rushers down
the pipe is insanely difficult to deal with. Of course,
Josh bought time against them to make the throw down
feel and I think it's reasonable to ask if he
could and should have bought time instead to make the
throw to Shakir. The bullets fly fast, and it's easy

(29:22):
to question this decision from here. Josh made a tremendous
play and got a tough throw off, So again, it's
so pleasant. I thought it would end there, but Ryan
came back. Oh the second he headed to the right,
which is what bought him a little time From the
first free rusher. Shakir was eliminated from the thought process.
I mean, I could go on because there are even
more items here. Mitchell Schwartz, former chiefs offensive lineman, also

(29:47):
had a response to Ben which way he leaned, No kidding,
He does not fool around when he gets after people.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
He had some doozies too, and they are all stupid
on this particular play. I think he, like Ryan, was
correct in his assessment of come on, now, here's why
you can't do what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's nice to look at it afterwards and say this.
I think there's a case to be made for making
the throw to Shakir if you are feel good about
throwing a pass to a pass catcher on fourth and
five and asking that pass catcher to gain twelve to
fourteen yards because that's where he likely catches the ball.
By the time the ball gets there. The one defender

(30:29):
that some would claim is the only defender that would
have a chance to get him would be within probably
five yards of him, and he still needs twelve and
then everybody else would be there as well, throwing that
far behind the sticks man, you better have a guy
absolutely wide open and have completely fooled the defense, which
wasn't the case on that play. So Besteveex doesn't always

(30:49):
have to result in a oh he bodied him, he won.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Twitter's broken.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
But it was interesting that somebody who works for one
of the networks was met with I don't think so
from somebody who works for one of the other networks.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh, I love network on network violence.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And again violence, I mean, maybe he slapped his wrist,
maybe he took his lunch money, maybe, but there wasn't
too much violence.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
There was far more.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
There was a quarterback pointing it out to a non
quarterback right that this is sometimes what's out there, and
I'm I'm certainly not going to sit here and you know,
call out the analyst who doesn't play in the NFL,
because I don't believe in that. I don't think you
can't know things, but there are certain things that are
a little bit easier to recognize me. We're talking about Fitzpatrick.

(31:36):
We had two games yesterday. Who was in the booth
for both games? Former NFL quarterbacks. They can give you things,
one of them better than the other. This just in
The better analyst in the booth in yesterday's games was
Tom Brady. Now, you didn't that much of a bar
to jump over.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
You're biased, Yeah, I'm super biased, and he even says KB, oh, Jim.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
You know that's a good point there, Kb, but not
nearly as much.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
As the gym lover. Well, we all love Jim, but
not for the same reasons as that guy. All Right,
I had a feeling this would be the case, and
it was. That's absolutely fine. There are some leftovers, and
of course, a lot of the discourse on the social
media streets yesterday had to do with the pain and
that you know what that was the officials. So we

(32:24):
will get to that when we come back here on
a Monday edition of the program.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
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Back to Adam Clinton had Adam Wexler the eighteen on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
So I'm in a bit of a pickle as we
begin the final hour of the two o'clock or final
segment of the two o'clock hour here on the eight
team Sports Talk seven nineties, soon to be joined simulcast
via Space City Home Network. You can look at our beautiful,
miserable faces. I've been under the weather. I am been
in the weather all weekend. It happened to coincide with

(34:24):
my wife being out of town. I love the little guy,
and I love him even more after this weekend. That's
all you need to say. Let me tell you why
he's like, let's play minecraft. Of course, it's a day
of the week, and he knows it's the weekend so
that he can take advantage of just an inordinate amount
of screen time. But you know what, I'd rather be
playing Minecraft for that many hours as a bad parent

(34:44):
than anything he'd be watching on that idiot box or
his Apple his iPad. So anyways, I get a little
bit of a nap, in a supervised nap, if you will,
just trying to sleep off the crud. And then yesterday
I spent you know, like everybody else, sitting in the
same spot forget you know, give or take watching these games.

(35:05):
Iron I'm like, this is going to be just electric
on socials after the way this thing went down. And again,
it's not clear that the officials are the reason that
this game went the way it did, just like last weekend,
but it's also very clear that they had a huge
factor in it. You huge portions of the game, moments

(35:27):
in the game, key moments in the game where everything
seemingly always seems to go the Chiefs way. You brought
up a very good point. They wouldn't be in that
position if they weren't in the game every year. But
I don't have to also accept that once they get there,
they get every call go their way.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well that's their plays in the game yesterday that people
are just gonna pretend it didn't happen, you know, face
mask here, a holding call there, you know, because they did.
But they're not part of driving home the narrative that
they get every call and it's super in their favor.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Sometimes they don't get a call against them, like the
egregious whole call that's captured for all of America's see.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I know that happens in every play.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's not supposed to be an excuse for not calling
so obvious that you know, Mahome, Oh, Mahomes is rolling
out to the left. He didn't get any sort of
pressure and was able to make the play in part
because a guy was getting maulled behind him, right there
on camera with the official looking at it, right.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
But those things they definitely happened both ways nearly every
single game, and they did happen in yesterday's game. But
I can't sit here and deny some of the biggest,
most key this is going to swing the scoreboard moments.
And you could argue that any play two weeks in
a row, every week. Literally, that's what the narrative is
all about. It seems like it happens in every why

(36:39):
they're playing the Eagles, just some random NFC team, No
A team they've seen in the Super Bowl who everyone
was freaking out about because of a call, a call
that was probably correct.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Both players involved in the call set as much by
the way, right.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I mean, I don't know, he grabbed his jersey. He
tried to run away from him, but yeah, a hold
of his jersey. He probably don't want to do that
in space where they can and will see it more
often than not.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
But when you have a.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Play like you had with Xavier Worthy, where the call
on the field is the Kansas City Chiefs caught the
ball and it's a third and five play, and it
turns up maybe a field goal opportunity or a miss
or a block or a punt anything, or a go
for it into a first and goal which they then
turn into a touchdown. It's a pretty major call to

(37:23):
have a swing moment in the game, and they go
to review and they decided to catch. I don't think
too many people agreed with it. It didn't sound like the
three people that had microphones agreed with it, the two
in the booth and the ref in the booth, Jeane Staretur,
and you know, everybody has a different interpretation of the rules,
even though they're clear. The ball hitting the ground doesn't

(37:44):
mean it's incomplete. A lot of people think that that's
not what happens. It can hit the ground, and that's
why it becomes such a cloudy call because they asked
the Costanza question, did it move?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Now?

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Did he have the control of the ball and such
a good control of the ball that the ball hit
the ground and it did not move? And I don't
think you could make any determination on that. I think
I don't even think they were stuck because the call
in the field said it was a catch. I just
can't imagine watching that play and saying, oh, yeah, that
looks like a catch for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
It just didn't.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
The call in the field was chiefs. Was there enough
to say it was incomplete? There probably wasn't enough to
say it was in an interception either.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And if you get to that point, well the ball
they were. If you're saying the ball didn't hit the
ground to the point that it caused you to call incomplete,
well now somebody has to be given a catch. And
the call on the field was for the Chiefs as
a catch, how they made anything other than an incomplete
pass because the ball it's not an interception and it's
certainly not catch because the ball hits the ground in

(38:46):
an age where if the.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Ball hitting the ground isn't automatic in completion, and people
keep presenting that as it is, but it isn't.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, but if the if the ball is not secured
by the letter of the law, and every I mean,
all of these HD angles on it, I can't sit
there and say that with one hundred percent that was
the case either.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
That's why again, maybe I shouldn't have said they weren't
stuck because they were. Their call is going to be
made on the field. I mean sometimes we see them
make calls knowing that what doesn't matter what I call,
we'll fix it on review.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And I don't think that's what happened here.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It was pretty difficult for the official and there's only
really one official that can have a good view of it,
the closest one, and you hope it's not blocked by
the players making the play. Did the ball hit the ground?
Did he really catch it? When they get down to
the ground, who has control of the football, And when
both do it is an offensive players football In that situation,
it's a massive call. And it went the Chiefs way

(39:40):
that I think we can say, yeah, we always feel
like that happens.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
A massive call could have.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Gone either way, could have called it in complete on
the field, could have called it an interception on the field,
and they didn't, and then when they went to review,
they kept the football.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And that that's where the conundrum comes in. Because I
have I want to pass along what a certain Twitter
account had to say about this, but it's not Berkeley
I Center, so I'm not going to name it. But
essentially the tweet goes as follows, Wow, better vision, better calls,
And this was on the thing. They've been on this since.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I don't have to go back and see, but they
will consistently chiming in on officials issues with is that
really what you saw?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Still literally still literally offering all NFL refs freelask, Yeah,
And that's this is just one particular call in the game.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
And as I mentioned last week and many many more
people picked up on it and added to it from
this game, the narrative is there if you want it
to be, and if you present the right numbers, and
the right numbers are basically the last three postseasons now
plus this year's fourth. The numbers are dramatically, dramatically in
favor of the Chiefs by such an enormous margin that

(40:50):
it's almost impossible not to see it happening. And I
told you last week, throw it all out. Just watch
the games if you'd never watched a game before but
liked football, and watch what you said.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Watch the game.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
And then you were asked after you think one team
got more calls than the other, you know what the
answer would be. Maybe you're wrong, maybe you're right, But
I know what perception is also, and that's some of
what drives Will, certainly drives narratives, and it drives our
show into our number two. Still a few things, three
hours worth of things we have not yet gotten to.
Much more on where things stand with the Astros and

(41:21):
some of the players that were part of their championship teams.

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subscribe to the program and all the excellence we brought

(42:57):
to you over the weekend, five hours worth of coverage
from over at Astros fan Fest. Our first guest at
eleven a m. Was John Singleton. He was there right
as we began our broadcast. Our second guest came as
we're coming back from break, Dana Brown, the Astros general manager,
and as he was getting situated and seeded, I was

(43:18):
liigning him up for my first question. His first question
was about Alex Bregman. You know, I'm kind of where
things stand, and he had just met with the media
a few minutes before, and he had just met with
the media on the days before on the Astros caravan.
I don't really didn't expect anything to have changed, and
it really hasn't. Alex Bregman does not have a deal
with any other team, and he does not currently have

(43:38):
a deal with this team. Although it's very interesting to
see what's continue to be reported by everybody on this front.
Obviously the Ryan Presley trade, which was reported over the
weekend and has not been officially announced by either the
Cubs or the Astros, but believed to just be a
matter of physicals to be taken care of. Once that's done,

(44:00):
medicals taking care of them, the deal will be announced.
The amount of money the Astros will offer to the
Cubs to take care of a portion of the Ryan
Presley final year of that contract that vested with his
work last year for the Astros, and what will be
the Cubs responsibility what will come back in return, which
at this point looks like a pitching prospect who did
fine work at the A ball level a year ago,

(44:22):
a twenty one year old for the upcoming season. Looks
pretty intriguing for the Astros farm system, but obviously a
ways off and uncertain if there is additional talent heading
the Astros way. The Cubs continue to look to the
Astros to better their situation, kind of reshaping their entire
bullpen now around Ryan Presley and reshaping their whole offense

(44:42):
around Kyle Tucker who was obviously traded there earlier in
the off season. But it was really interesting to hear
from Dana on where things stand and whatever money they
have gotten back, so to speak, and not having to
be fully paying for Ryan Presley's deal. It's not nearly
enough to say, cover Alex Bregman without seeing your overall

(45:03):
salary spending figure again drift back over the CBT level
one point and get you a little bit closer to
being in really bad situation from a financial situation which
only matters to the owner who's operating club. Shouldn't matter
much to the fans, who are the ones who have
allowed this to happen because they pay their money to
go see the team and they buy all the gear.

(45:24):
Garage sale or not. Garage sale was massive, as usual,
was an older one fan. It's always a good one. Well,
in light of the fact that the City Connect jerseys,
as they were for some portions of late last year,
on their way out with.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
A new one on their way in.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
At some point, they were heavily slashed discounted prices, but
so are a host of other merchandise items and ballpark items,
which I always find that's the most fascinating part.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Did you buy a base?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I did not see a base offered for sale like
an actual base. Yes, I actually technically was sold something
that by term only it is called a base.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'll explain.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
But when you get back to the beyond the Baseball's
ball caps jersey's T shirt section, you get into the well,
they had about sixty pairs of baseball pants back there.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Game warn, probably.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Game warn, considering they had items from the manual scoreboard.
Most every item I saw was the number zero, which
they have the most of quite obviously, but they were
now known no longer in use. A host of banners
that you might see around formerly Minute Made Park, but
they were pretty uninteresting. Like if it was a banner
of a player from say a campaign where you were

(46:43):
raining again or something like that, that would be pretty
cool no matter how big it was, and it wouldn't
fit in your house. But these weren't really all that interesting.
And most of the signs around the ballpark, especially yesterday,
what do you think the sign said yesterday when you
were at Saturday at FanFest at Dyke And Park. They
were direction or they were informational merchandise sold here. This

(47:04):
arrow points to you to that line, and they're selling
all of these older signs that are now no longer
in use for like a dollar and other stadium. You
know there's vendors that are now longer housing a certain spot. Well,
they had these massive wood signs from a couple of them.
Well they don't need them anymore. The company that is

(47:25):
that business didn't want them or need them, and they
were there. You remember when Andre Johnson was honored after
he made the Hall of Fame, and right there on
the field there was the big eighty in massive numbers.
He signed it, and they had it, and that was
for sale. It was for a pretty good chunk of change,
even after it was discounted. And then you finally make
your way through the next section and they had more

(47:47):
of the ballpark items, older parts of the actual stadium
that are no longer in use, mostly stadium seats. You know,
they had, you know, the Diamond Club. I think a
new sponsor had pushed them into well, we're gonna have
to replace these seats as the chair backs have that
sponsor on it, and so a host of new seats
have come in, which means the old seats are unneeded

(48:08):
and not in any condition to go anywhere else in
the ballpark. They're huge. There's the Diamond Club seats. So
those were on sale or being sold in two packs,
because they had the stands on them, the base, the
what kept keeps them together, the arm rests. And when
I made my way back there, and this was long
after our broadcast day for me had concluded, they were
pretty much all sold. They all had placards on them, sold, sold, sold,

(48:31):
So I asked the guy, all of these sets, I
can see. It looks like they're all sold. He goes, yeah,
somebody's got their name on it. They're just on their
way back around to come pick them up. And you
don't have anymore He's like nah, he goes, but I
do have these. So I was like, well, those look
exactly like them. It was pretty obvious to see what
the difference is. The difference was they were in two pieces,

(48:51):
a base and a seatback, so you just have to
do a little installation yourself. You'd have to build your
own base attack which the base to the seat, maybe
add some springs or whatever else might make it work.
And I thought, for the price, which was next to nothing,
how could I say no to that?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
What was the price twenty bucks? That is next to nothing?
What were the other ones?

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I mean, if they were put together, there's just a
little bit more. They just didn't have any more of them.
So now I went through all that, and he gave
me the applacard to go pull my car around because
they just I actually loaded it myself, but now that
I'm right next to it was pretty easy. But they
had people out there to help people load their seats
in there, and the same person I'd talked to he
brought them out and we carried him out together. And
at this point he says, oh, man, and he'd already

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written my name down and taken my number. But as
at this point he says, man, I know who you are.
I listening to you guys every day. Yeah, it's great.
I go, And I'd said, you know, I introduced myself
to him and asked what his name was, and of
course then I offered. Then only then, only then, only
then did I say, well, do you have any seats
that are available to me?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Now? Do you know who I am? Exactly? I like that.
I'm proud of you playing that card.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
You did not. You know this is this is seismic
in a way because we all remember when, for example,
the summit was renamed Compact Center. Do I want seats
from Compact Center which are green? By the way, if
they're not logoed, is it a big deal? Well, nothing

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was logoed back then in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
And what you're saying is that it's pretty different in
that they took none of the seats are there, They've
recovered them, recolored them.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
If they weren't recovered they're just brand new seats. I
want a summit chair. I've been chasing one down forever,
and if anybody out there knows how to get one,
I'll pretty much pay whatever it takes to get it.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
And he says this knowing that I I would say,
at this point, I used to have.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
A we have an arrangement. Yeah, I used to want them.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
And I've moved on from basically, you know, possession is
ninety nine one hundredths of the law. I would say
at this point, I moved out of an apartment along
three decades ago, yeah, and did not take them with me.
I've had a couple of roommates they stayed there, and
you know, it kind of intended to go back and
get them. And those people have also long since moved
on and moved to other places.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Are they in the city. They could be with people.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I would have to talk to them, which I don't
really ever do for decades.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
This is the time.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
So instead I'm just left with now two seats unconnected
from Minute Made Park, and eight seats two sets of
four that are connected from the Sam Houston Coliseum.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Those are that's pretty cool. Those are Led Zeppelin played there.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
So the reason I bring this up there have been
there's now three names attached to this stadium where the
Astros have had all this success. They've had all of
this success with one of those names. So if you
had something that said Minute Made Park on it, that's
still I think pretty valuable.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, I don't think people are wondering here on January
twenty seventh, if Minute Made Park sign it is still
on the building because everybody knows that.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It is everywhere.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
After this weekend, I mean it's yeah, it's all there.
What are they waiting on? I mean it's just a
lot of work. Wonder if the sponsors and not happy
about that.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
The mascot has been around the last couple of days.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
On the hout on the tarn Okay, I'm sorry, I
have to say this. How stupid are some people in
this city that think.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
What happened to Orbit? We have a water drug for
a mascot.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Now, you morons, it's the sponsor's mascot. It's not even
a it's just a I.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Think you'll see the mascot maybe early in the year,
a couple times, maybe on the concourse.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
For some picks.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Maybe it'll hang out with Orbit.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Probably will show up at Orbit and Clutches birthdays, Diesel's birthday,
you know, the local mascots birthdays. Maybe did you check
out the train? I honestly, it's a it's a good question.
I walked by the field on my way to our location,
which even looked up.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I even considered it because you've been there a million times.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Yeah, I mean I was looking at third base and
taking pictures of it, and in an effort to then
send out I wonder who we'll be playing here on a.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Day, Well, you know who won't be playing here on
opening day or the rest of the year, at least
until the Cubs come to town.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Do they come to town or do they go there?
I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
The Kyle Tucker tribute video has already been playing, so
and if I'm presuming he'll be in the starting lineup
and might even batten the first inning, you might be
able to take care of that early. Would you also
just take care of the Presley video before the game?
Not knowing if he comes into the game, well you
kind of hope he's not coming into the game. If
he's their closer, he might be their closer. He also

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might have had so much rest because they've blown everybody
out every day. He just come into a game just
to get some work.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
The Cubs are gonna be good this year.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I think the Cubs are gonna be better than they
were last year. So they will be in the race throughout.
It's possible they could be the best team in their division.
I don't I don't think they will be, but I
think playoffs are definitely a possibility.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
It's gonna be It's gonna be weird. That's the key.
Seeing some of these players wear other jerseys. We've seen
it with Springer, We've seen it with Korea. Call doesn't matter,
he was just make it easy.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
We've seen it, or we'll see it with all of
them except for l Twove And maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
That's that's the betting odds on favorites, right. So, yeah,
we will continue to discuss. We'll get to Ryan Presley's
legacy at some point. And yeah, people are still upset
about the officiating and the Chiefs Bills game.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Huh, who would have thought.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety back to Adam
Clinton and Adam Wexler the eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
So there are several outlets that are talking about what
happened in the game yesterday. And let me just like
preface this by saying, you know, it's bad when for
the second consecutive week, most of America is talking about
the officials in your game and not the game itself, Like,

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not just people that are sports fans, Joe Blow on
social media, I'm talking about I mean, first of all,
last week with the Texans, you had Troy Aikman and
the whoever it was the official what's the world? What's
their official term of their role? Gene Steritz, Like, what's
his official role? Called assistant to the regional officiating broadcast manager?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
You know what I'm saying, Like the guy who's there
to say, yeah, that calls a good call, I would
have called it that way. No, that's actually terrible because
it benefits the chiefs. That's basically the choice. And they
were all all over it. People, I mean, Lil Wayne
was commenting on the Texans Chiefs officiating. People that are
not usually gonna go on the record even like I

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can't remember the last time I saw a Lil Wayne
tweet about officiating in an NFL playoff.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I don't mean to put you on the spot But
what did Lil Wayne have to say?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I'd have to scroll. I just know that he did it.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I'll find it. I have a computer, Well.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah I don't.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
He may or may not be that active, so you
might not have to scroll that far in his timeline.
But like people were talking about the officiating instead of
the game. I mean, by default they are talking about
the game, but they're not talking about the aspect that
maybe the NFL would like. I say that the NFL
doesn't care. They're making a billion dollars. That's why they can,
you know, have their Instagram account hijacked with Taylor Swift

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arrival videos and then have eight thousand comments belonging underneath
it saying, yet we don't care. Button dislike button, nobody cares,
button stop things like that.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
They don't care. They don't care that you don't care.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So then fast forward to last night and you have,
for example, I just I found this one.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
It's kind of out of.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Nowhere, but it says it's a New York Post article
hard to fully appreciate Chief's greatness when every questionable call
go their way. And then you'll go underneath that and
you'll see the typical chiefs fans that are like, blah
blah blah, you're crying. You know, you're just whining because
you really have a loser mentality or you have you know,
because what they did with this article. They have a

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screen cap of Josh Allen trying to get across the
first down marker, and it's amazing how people can look
at that picture and some people will say, you're literally
sharing a picture of him not making it, and then
five other people after that are like, well, after this
picture was taken, he crossed, but they still didn't give
him the first down and they gave the ball back
to the Chiefs. So everybody's talking about the wrong thing.

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And there's a Super Bowl matchup. And here's the thing
about this, it's all gonna come for full circle two
weeks from now when they finally get this game kicked off.
It's gonna be the most excruciating two weeks ever because
I'm already mad about the matchup and how it came
to be, but now I've got to like wait the
stupid two week long period to get to it. And
everybody is going to be laser focused on an Fiicial

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crew in the Super Bowl for probably the first time
in the history of mankind. I don't ever remember this
kind of scrutiny going into a game about the officials,
even with the Patriots, even on the years where they cheated.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I don't remember anybody where this is going to be.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
A totally different cheating. Do you think two weeks from
now this is going to be less or more of
a story? More exactly? But today the games were just played.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
We're not talking about Eagles versus Chiefs yet, right, We're
only talking about what just happened. But the majority of
the conversation is not about man. The Eagles scored fifty
five points. The Eagles had seven rushing touchdowns. I guess
Sakuon Barkley can help you win New York. We're talking
about what happened in the chief Spills game. We're barely
getting to Josh Allen's fourth consecutive postseason loss to this

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team and this quarterback, while playing well in all four
games offensively, We're barely getting to individual plays other than
the one play. We've got over many, many, many times.
I mean, it was a thirty two to twenty nine game.
It was score after score after There's plenty of time,
plenty of things happened in this game. Both teams moved
up and down the field, there was just the one turnover.

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I mean this, what the Chiefs did yesterday was something
only the Texans had done this entire postseason. That was
the tenth game where there had been at least one turnover,
and the Texans and the Chiefs now are the only
teams that have won one of those games. Every other
team that had even just one turnover had lost the game.

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And most of the time it was they had one
or two or three or four or five turnovers and
the other team had none. And in yesterday's game, the
Bills had none. The Bills just had a turnover free postseason,
and they're not going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It feels like people were equating those two things, which
I guess you can. There's so many plays in an
NFL game on any given week. There's so many plays
in a playoff game that come down to this, that
and the other, and it's you don't want to say, well,
you can point to this play and that's the reason
we lost this game, or these four plays.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
For example.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I was just showing you a tweet during the during
the break where it was a screen cap of four
different plays in different ways that affected the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
None positively.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Nobody is sending out social media saying these four plays
are why the Chiefs won. Unless it's four plays they
got benefit of the doubt from the officials. None of
them are The two completions late in the game, first
to Pacheco, then to p Ryan. This is why they
won the game. Those two plays, the worthy touchdown. I mean,
there's the peoples, the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Bills, still they would have a possession like I don't
know if anybody knows, but the Chiefs are good at football.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
The Chiefs have the best coaching in football. Buy a lot,
which is why they keep beating the same teams over
and over and over again. You'd think matching up against
the same coaches over and over and over again would
have them catching you. Well, they're not. They out schemed them,
They out executed them. Those last two completions were brilliant,
and it was a play Texans might be familiar with

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the play to p Ryan. They ran the same play
against the Texans with success also, and it just either
wasn't seen or was hard to recognize, or was well
so well executed. I mean Mahomes had another awesome day.
Mahomes is one of the greatest statistical postseason quarterbacks ever, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
He had another one of those days.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
He dropped the football on a Reid option play with
Pacheco and they lost it. And that was his mistake
in the game. He underthrew Xavier Worthy on a dump
off once threw at his feet, he didn't catch it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I mean, he was really, really, really good. Again.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
His team outscored the other team. His team needed to
outscore the other team, which has happened a lot. They
had to score thirty eight points to beat the Eagles,
who scored thirty five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
They had to get at least thirty yesterday because the
Bills got twenty nine. They're good. They are good. But
that's the whole point of why people are upset. They
don't need help, And all of the egregious ones we've
talked about, we haven't gotten to the one that might
actually annoy me the most because outside of it is
being so colossal and it's just one way or the other.

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Swings total momentum. Mahomes runs into the end zone and
Travis Kelsey, who's done next to nothing the whole day,
starts getting into the defenders. It was actually Damar Hamlin
initially starts like just getting in.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
That player who tackled Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, he's taunting him, and I'm like, look, I'm the
last guy that wants to hear about I don't know,
I don't care. He No, it doesn't matter, not in
the letter of the lot, because I've.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Seen this a million times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
What Texan got a taunting penalty for pointing Dalton Schultz,
You know what I'm talking about. It was either in
the playoffs or late in the season. He pointed at someone.
Uh oh, fifteen yard personal foul. What But Travis Kelcey,
this is like Draymond Green. He has the longest leash
on the planet. For whatever reason, doesn't throw the flag

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back at the official. They probably won't call him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
But again, any other place that's taunting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
It should have been a fifteen yard They get the
guy who reacts to him, like five minutes later, who
gets up in his face, who is at the defensive
Jordan Phillips.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, I mean, I know you're right. I know everybody
knows I'm right. You can't do what he did and
think you're gonna get away with it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
But you can if you're Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Didn't touch anybody, it doesn't matter. Ran in there and
smashed when he pointed a guy and they gave him.
He ran into him helmet first, like, come on, well,
no one else was doing anything about doing what walk away?
Give him a flag, talk back to him, give him
a flag. That's what he did. No, he didn't. DeMar
Hamlin did, which is why he wasn't flagged.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
No, he was actually flagged because then Kelsey, for the
second consecutive week, became the chief who flopped. He didn't
even fall over right, because he's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
He threw his head and arms back, but he stayed
on his fee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
All I know is that the Chiefs had back to
back high profile guys flopping to try and get penalties drawn,
and it worked on one of them. What did what
did the Phillips penalty do to the Bills? I gave
him fifteen yards worst field position.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Gave him nothing. They kicked a shorter extra point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Did they get penalized, yeah, eight yards and they then
they nothing happened. It didn't hurt him in any way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
How do you know because he made the kick, you
think he was going to miss the extra point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I'm just saying, why was it? Why was it even
a situation like that to begin with?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Why wasn't I'm not really trying to needle you, but
in this particular instance, I feel like you are. They
chose this was a penalty that basically didn't impact them
in any way. I know America's on it, Yeah, definitely.
Uh It's a little bit like what was happening in
America in the Commander's game when the Eagles were at
the goal line and they repeatedly, intentionally, agregious.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Egregiously went off side. I thought somebody was going to
lose their neck in that one. But again going back
to that, that was a blowout game. It was close,
It wasn't close at all, And to me, I was
far more satisfied regardless of the outcome after watching that
game than the Shenanigans I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
So one of the things that came out from over
the weekend that I I don't want to say I
didn't see it coming, because at the very tail end
of last segment I talked about how enjoyable it was
to watch Eagles v. Commies. By the way, is it
real or is it a rumor? Are they really trying
to change their name back? I think that's a real possibility.
I don't know that for a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I haven't checked Irvin Magic Johnson's Twitter account recently.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Is that where they're going to break the news?

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Well, you know, he was on the machine this weekend
as his team's season came to a close.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Did you see what he jotted down? No, I waited
until you would read it on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Shot it down.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
At Magic Johnson can be found on the X platform.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I thought it was he went by Irvin on his handle.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Well, the act does not include Irvin, but his name
is there. He was actually very busy, you know, twenty
one hours ago he was talking about the game. An
hour ago he had another four comments about the Commander's
season and staffers, et cetera. He had a Lakers Celtics

(01:06:42):
tweet as well just before that. It was a busy
weekend for Irvin. I hate losing, so I'm mad did
my Commander's lost? But congratulations of the Philadelphia Eeles of
for advancing to the Super Bowl. My commanders heard our
chances of winning the game today with three fumbles and
two many penalties.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Man, he is, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Brutal, He's on it, He's honest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
At my Commander's heard our chances of winning the game
today with three fumbles and too many penalties. I want
to think all the Commanders players, coaching staff, fans, and
my great Commander's partners on a very good season.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
The Commanders are back. They are And you know what's
funny about the Commander's being back, even with him as
part of the I I hesitate to even say ownership.
I mean he's a minority owner.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I guess he is part of the ownership group, and
he is not Josh Harris, who has the large chunk
of money that helped them purchase the team. Yes, minority
in this instance is a financial term.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
That's what I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I'm making sure people understand that. If people don't understand that,
then they are stupid. So I offended them twice. Now
apparently if they were upset.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
I'm trying to keep anybody from being offended. I'm trying
to just be factual. It probably was understood.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Nature is healing. We can move on now, all right.
Dan Snyder's not happy about this. It's like, it's not
a surprise to find this out, and yet it's a
surprise to be hearing about it after this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
It's no coincidence. And I know this is low hanging fruit,
but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
It's no coincidence that we are how many years removed
from him not owning the team, and they're like in
the NFC championship game, And when's the last time they
went this far?

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
It wasn't under his ownership.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
To look was more recent than the Cowboys, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Well, everybody's more recent than the ex for the Texans,
they have into a conference championship. They also haven't existed
except for since two thousand and two.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Which of these two franchises that played yesterday for the
NFC title should the Cowboys be looking at and learning
from more? I think is a really interesting question because
it's clear what the Eagles are doing. Wow, the Eagles
are putting really good players out there, they hire really
good coaches. They've manipulated the cap to a point where
they can keep adding players when they've drafted, well, they've

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done their Their general manager has done a really good job.
Their owner has allowed the people, Oh well, just follow
what they do. Well, yes, that would be a great answer. Well,
the other team is also a great answer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Horror.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Horrible ownership with the Commanders, terrible decision making with the Commanders,
poor choices in head coaching hires, poor choices in personnel,
and tons of losing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Okay, well, maybe I should look at what they've.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Done and bad draft picks to recover from that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
New ownership hired your coach drafted very well with their
quarterback and the other picks that have followed. If you
noticed how many young players were on the field that
matter for the Commanders and other veteran players they've added.
Mentioned Luvo earlier, could mention Jeremy Chin. This is Bobby Wagner.

(01:09:52):
They they changed their direction with their football side happen
side with their ownership change, right, Okay, well, now you
definitely should be looking at that, because ownership, for sure
is a problem with the Dallas Cowboys. It's not a
problem when it comes to the bottom line. They are

(01:10:14):
a money making machine for the league, and like no
other team in the league, he's incredible at turning that
franchise into money and he's been doing it for decades
better than every single other owner, all while post Barry
Switzer not being able to sniff football success.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Now, let's face it. I know you're saying that because
you have to, but it's post Jimmy Johnson. That was
Jimmy's team that Barry won with. He coulda roll the
ball out like fool drugs and like it was not.
I mean again, the highlight of his tenure is Cowboys
head coach was getting picked up at the airport for
putting a gun into a bag and trying to get
it through the airport. So anyways, the point of all
this is, like you know, Dan Snyder gone two years later, essentially,

(01:10:57):
like it's if you're fault. That's why I said, right,
it's your fault. So he's not happy about it. On
top of all of this, that's the best part. So
he went to some dinner in London this past fall
and they were asking him. You know, the conversation at
this dinner with some of his associates, the conversation turned
to the commanders, and when one associate returned to the US,

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a colleague asked him the question that's been on the
minds of many fans and league executives. What's it like
for Snyder for years the most hated owner in sports?
Do you agree with that, by the way, or is
James Dolan take the cake. It's a good competition between
those two, right, So at least he has this fear
going for him in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
That's James Dolan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Okay, Well, I'm just saying, at least he's provided something
of substance to the society. What's it like for him
to watch them succeed without him? And the dinner companion
told the colleague quote, he bleeping hates it, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
So this awful person. Now he might not have anybody
to be happy with that's still there, because maybe nobody's there.
I mean, it's probably a few, but he hates it
because he's It's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
It shows that he was the main reason, if not
all the reasons. Really well, he's the owner. I mean,
we wanted to say it about Jerry, we would say
the same thing with him. We would have said it
here for a number of years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Heck, this franchise hasn't done anything either, all the years
that they have existed in the NFL. They haven't reached
a conference championship game either, So yeah, I think ownership
for certain periods of time has absolutely been at the
forefront of those problems. Doesn't look like they're headed anywhere
positive anytime soon either. They're lucky that the Giants were
the team that said, Nah, we don't need Saquon Barkley.
We've got a forty million dollar quarterback. I don't need

(01:12:41):
him handing the ball off to a twelve million dollar
running back. As you saw on Hard Knocks this off season,
which is awesome going back and listening to some of
the nonsense that I thought a really good GM.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
At the time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Joe Shane was saying, well, really really really looks bad
now the decisions that he made and they have made.
We haven't had a chance really to kind of have
you guys weigh in on all sorts of things, whether
it's football related, with the games themselves, what's going on
with the narrative, how your belief on the Chiefs and
how they have made it this far again, third straight

(01:13:13):
Super Bowl. Nothing but AFC title game appearances during the
Pat Mahomes era of football. I never got around to
posting this yesterday. I knew I'd have a show. I
could probably just say it here. You know, had a
really really good day yesterday. NFL related Tom Brady. Tom
Brady not because he was on the call, not because hey,
look at me, I'm doing a great job, not because
he's gonna be on the call for the super Bowl,

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and not because he's not Tony, and not because he's
not Tony.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I just want to make sure that was clear.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
So they won another postseason game, Pat Mahomes did. So
everybody on planet Earth that's not Tom Brady has one
win against the Pat Mahomes led Chiefs in the postseason.
That's Joe Burrow, the only other person on planet Earth still,
and Tom Brady has twice as many. He's two for
two and will retire two for two. Please Moss in

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the postseason. Mess that up a little bit. Geez, we
will see. I agree with you. And the whole point
of that was come on in, welcome into the show,
join us on the phone lines or on the social media,
and we'll chop it up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
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Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
It is Monday and welcome back from the weekend edition
of the show. Welcome into the two weeks prior to
the Super Bowl portion of our twenty twenty five Chiefs
and Eagles will play for the title. Chiefs would like
to claim a third consecutive title. They're no first team
to ever reach the Super Bowl after winning the previous two.
Now the opportunity to be the first to win three

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consecutive Super Bowls. Possibility for a fourth Super Bowl MVP
for Pat Mahomes, He's been the MVP of each of
their three previous victories. A fifth game appearance for this
group of Chiefs, management and otherwise, although they have lost
a little bit of management. Some other NFL news to
get to with some hirings and staff changes. We haven't

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talked much yet today about the Texans ongoing search for
a new offensive coordinator and other associated members of the
offensive staff. We want to welcome you into the conversation
talk a little bit about more of what's been seen
so far on the field this NFL season seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety. Get Dave in on our
conversation here this afternoon. I always appreciate you joining us here. Dave,

(01:16:41):
What do you got on your mind.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Welln't. I haven't been listening to a lot of radio today,
but I was wondering if people are talking much about
McDermott's decisions to go for two points and kind of
what happened after that and the kind of chain of
events that set off. I don't like going for two
early in the game, and I definitely don't like taking
points off the board the way he did. You know,
they scored a touchdown. I think they were down twenty

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one to ten they scored. It was twenty one sixteen
he was he kicked the extra point, and then there
was a penalty and it moved the ball. You know,
they had a chance to go for two with the
ball a yard closer to the goal line, and so
they did it, and they missed it, okay, and so
missing that two point conversion that caused them to go
for a two point conversion on the next touchdown. It

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also is what led Kansas City to decide to go
for two points because of the score situation. Kansas City converted,
Buffalo missed two net three points. If he just kicks
extra points and doesn't kind of push Kansas City into
going for two, the game ends tied and goes to overtime.
I don't know hear anyone. Mcdermis's a bad coach. I

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don't think he's terrible. Yeah, but he's a bad coach.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Are you a Buffalo fan?

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
No? No, but I was rooting for him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:17:54):
You go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Oh well, I just say a lot of Buffalo fans
seem to have share your opinion today.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Say he's levels toll in in game City. Yeah, it
looks bad yesterday for exactly the reasons you describe. But
it's gonna look bad every time he goes up against
Andy Reid because Andy Reid's better than him. And that's
just all there is to it. He might not be
a bad coach, but he's trying to be a guy
who's better than he is. And all these good things
about Kansas City. If you pick any one of them
you want, but they're all at the top of the list.

(01:18:18):
Name the five best defensive coordinators in the NFL. One
of them is the Chiefs DC. Name the five best
head coaches, one of them is Andy Reid. Name the
five best quarterbacks, one of them is Pat Mahomes. They
would be this wherever they are if coach Spagnola was
somebody else's DC, he'd be top five. If Pat Mahomes
was being coached by somebody else somewhere else, he'd be
a top five quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
They're all in the same place.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a Bills fan, but I
grew up a Patriots fan. And I will tell you
Bill Belichick he had a philosophy. He says, you don't
go for two until the fourth quarter when you can
kind of tell what the score might be. Early a game,
you don't know what's going to happen the rest of
the game. You don't go for two in the first
half generally, and you don't take points off the board. Ever,

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that's like bad mojo to kick points off the board.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Yes, that sounds like you're at the at the blackjack
table and you're splitting something because you're something you shouldn't do.
You're kind of taking money. Oh, you've already won. Just
take your money and move on to the next one,
rather than trying to do something a little bit outside
of what should be the norm. And hopefully you're not
also doing that while sitting at third base. So the
other people of this hair are like, come on now, Man,
I know you want your own money, but please don't

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do that. I do want to mention that the two
point plays that you're bringing up, because I'm probably not
like everybody else. You have Josh Allen, you have Lamar Jackson,
you have Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense. Man, I'm
going for two all the time. I want extra points.
I don't feel like I'm giving points away, especially since
they moved the kickback where every once in a while

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see Kaymi Fairbarn in the postseason, your kicker misses and
now you get no points when all you did was
try to get the one gimme point. But the timing
of it, I probably if I was not like that,
I would be right there with you that you're you're
chasing points with thirty five minutes to go or twenty
five minutes to go or twenty minutes to go. The
twenty one is sixteen situation that you described, that is

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exactly what happened. It was right before halftime they made
the extra point. It's twenty one seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
You go in.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
He decided to take the point off the board because, man,
there's no way Josh Allen and our offense can get
two yards against that Chiefs defense. But one yard. Absolutely,
we can get one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yard, and you look at it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
One more yard. If you want to go for it,
go for it from the two. You're either you're gonna
make it or not. You're not.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Your receiver's not gonna run a very different route. Your
Josh Allen's not gonna get to the half inch line
from the two where he would have scored from the one.
I mean, look at how James Cook scored. He was
tackled before he got to the end zone, and then
he put his arm down, stayed in the air a
little bit longer, put the ball over the goal line.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Heck, Josh Allen did one of the craziest things you're
not ever supposed to do as a quarterback. He threw
the ball, He put the ball over the yard to
gain line, and then tried to tuck it back in.
Not at the goal line where it's okay to do it,
because as soon as you cross the goal line it's
a touchdown the play's over.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
He did that in the middle of the field. Turned
out he did fumble but was able to recover it.
It's crazy, but yeah, I would totally agree where and
why they were going for it. And I still have
to point this out. You even said it when you
described it to us. The Bills went for two twice
failed twice. The Chiefs thus were compelled later in the

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game to go for two and succeeded. In other words,
the Chiefs were better than you. These are three individual
football plays and the Chiefs won all three of them,
and that's why they had three more points.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
It's okay, So what you say is true. What he
said is true, and it is when you break it down,
and this is how sports are, but I especially think
this is how football is. You break down different aspects
of decisions that were made or not made both in
this case, and it you know, you take it down.

(01:22:02):
It's the same thing as these penalties we're talking about,
or non penalties or first downs versus fourth down, when
you take one little segment of the game and make
that into the whole story. And I'm not saying that's
what's being done here, but it makes it so black
and white. And um, I do I do agree that

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you just had a point on the board and then
a penalty, Like what if that flag's not called there?
Does he just go on about his business for the
rest of the game, and that point never comes off
the board.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
I'm assuming, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
It'd be twenty one to seventeen, and then you kind
of work off the math of what's left and when
you scored and what's up there, and you know obviously
what this all could have led to, even if one
of those plays is different when you're not down three points. Hey, gamblers,
would you have liked that Bills plus two and a half?
I mean, there's a lot of things that play here
with the Chiefs barely winning but winning by just enough

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to both move on and cover.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
It's just incredible these the game of inches Moniker is
so overused as a cliche, especially in football, but it's
so true, and it's never been more true than it
was yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
In these certain situations, no one mathematical thing, as you
were the one of us on that Bill's Chief game
to play the over thus got the victory first round
of the playoffs, all the six games, you had only
one game going over forty four points, and it was
only at forty eight six games.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
So with confidence, I took the over on everything.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
The next round, you had every game at fifty or better,
but one so three out of four were fifty or better.
And then yesterday Bill's Chiefs light on points sixty one,
Commi's Eagles heavy on points seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Well, they the Eagles went ahead and took care of
the over all by their lonesome.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
And the last time the Chiefs and Eagles met in
the playoffs, which was the Super Bowl two years ago, that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Was seventy three. As we've pushed forward in the postseasonminary
numbers more points. These two defenses are two of the
best in the NFL, though, so be a very interesting
Super Bowl. Our number three is straight ahead the A
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Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your teams.
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Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Two in almost two to go. You'll be with us
until six o'clock. We'll have Rockets Basketball Network coverage beginning
at six. AC and MT will be split in those duties.
AC will have your Rockets launch bat at five thirty.
Myself put it scare of me just now I'm doing
the game night A Me, Matt and I will have

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the game for you starting at six, so we'll have
some more Rockets conversation. They definitely deserve more of our conversation.
We will have it for you as we continue here.
Over the time between now and then, got a second
consecutive victory over the Cavs. A lot of football chatter here,
both nationally with the two title games going in the books.
Yesterday a three point victory for the Kansas City Chiefs

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over the Bills. The math's too hard on the other
game because there was such a widespread but I know
the Commander scored fifty five points and won their game.
And Saquon Barkley continues to just he's ridiculous. Opened the
game with a sixty yard touchdown run and has run
his way all the way into the one of the
most impressive seasons by a running back in the history

(01:25:35):
of the league. One more win and he will go
from the Giants and not a whole lot of time
of fun there to a Super Bowl win with the
Philadelphia Eagles if they can upset the Chiefs opening line
of just two points one and a half somewhere some places,
and I'm sure it'll change a little bit of the
course of time. I don't think there's too many injuries

(01:25:56):
that will play much of a role in this, and
it's roughly where it was to season ago when these
two teams met in the Super Bowl and the game
played out as such. With ten seconds left, the game
was thirty five to thirty five.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Wouldn't you run like your pants were on fire? If
you got away from Daniel Jones and your new quarterback
was Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
It's a really interesting question to ask, especially the way
I asked.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Before I give you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
The answer, I'll ask you this much more interesting question,
wouldn't you run like your pants were on fire? If
you got away from the Giants and we're putting on
a Texans uniform like Saquon Barkley nearly did. It should
not be treated as a look how much better they
would have been because he's so much better than Joe Mixon.
That's is not at all what I mean the I'm

(01:26:38):
actually impressed with the pivot the Texans made from they
they were. As a basketball coach might say that the
full court press on to sign Saquon Barkle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Kakuon was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Yeah, he wanted to play here when he made it
to the off season and made it to the horrific
phone call given to him by his general manager saying,
why didn't you go out there and see what you're
more is you've earned that and then you know, would
you would you at least promise me you'll circle back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
It was embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
I thought that phone conversation, that the way that he
spoke with him about that. You know, he's trying to
make it sound like a good thing, but he was
really saying, man, we're not paying you go out there.
No but but we might want to pay you if
if you can prove to us that your market stinks,
will be in on it. Because as soon as he
went out in the market, he was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Is he got better offers from multiple teams so much
so that they were never gonna be in it, which
is what he basically was doing. He's saying, don't play here,
but the Texans were in at that. I'm saying from
that moment in time.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
He and his agent knew where some interest might be,
and when they found out there was mutual interest, he
wanted to play here. He thought this is gonna be
a great c. J. Stroud what they're doing, Demiko and
where they're headed and the line, yes, even with the line,
because what he would have done. I think now it
is interesting that I don't know how they stacked up

(01:27:55):
league wide. I'm gonna guess there were probably the Texans
were probably, as it turned out, near the top in
forty yard runs because Damian Pierce had two of them. Well,
one was a lot more than forty, one was ninety plus,
the other was fifty four, and Joe Mixon had three,
I believe, and I know we saw Barkley do it

(01:28:17):
and Derek Henry do it all year, but there weren't
a lot of teams that found their way. And I'm
not calling the Texans running offense explosive, but I do
know that Saquon Barkley can make that difference and where
he also, I don't even think the Eagles they never.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Needed him to be this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
He's phenomenal out of the backfield as a pass catcher.
As a he's to me, no different than Christian McCaffrey
at his best. He's only different statistically for where he's played.
Look at Saquon Barkley and the Giants offense as a
pass catcher.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Still not probably quite as awesome as McCaffrey in the
Niners offense, but still awesome, and then look at him
as a patch catcher with the Eagles unused because they
just don't need him. They don't run those plays is off,
they don't ask Look at how many carries he even
had yesterday. Yeah, it would have definitely changed how you
have to attack them. And they are different players to

(01:29:10):
a defensive coordinator. If Saquon Barkley's putting on the deep
steel blue versus Joe Mixon putting on the deep steel
blue at the beginning of the year or maybe as
they played their respective years, it impacts the way DC
would have feared. Uh, the Texans offense would have deployed players,
personnel groups that they might have used, and it definitely
gives you flexibility to that same end. I don't even

(01:29:32):
think the Texans used Joe Mixon in the past game
the way they should have, even with their line issues.
By the way, the Texans need a new OC They
need a new offensive line coach. It was a really
nice article written over the weekend by John Alexander that
kind of encapsulated our five months worth of conversation. Yeah,
CJ this, yeah, the pass offense that, yeah, the running game,

(01:29:54):
that all these things that are absolutely problems absolutely need
to be better, and they all circle back. Well, none
of those things are gonna change unless this changes, unless
the offensive line changes, and the other part of it.
That I again, I hope more people read it or
listened to me and us here on the show. Putting
Shack Mason out there again, I can't. I still it's
been a week and then then some I cannot understand that.

(01:30:17):
And it was properly pointed out by John in his
chronicle article. Shaq Mason was one of the least successful
guards while he was on the field. There were only
four guards that have a lot had allowed more sacks
on their pass pro plays during that time. One of
them was Shaq Mason. People are were screened. You can't

(01:30:38):
play Kenyon anymore. You gotta get him off the field. Oh,
I don't care when he comes out, you can't put
him out there. Well, the Texans listened to that. When
he got healthy late in the year, they didn't put
him back out there. They saw that he wasn't playing
very well and it was hurting the interior of their line.
But somehow they didn't see that with Shaq Mason. He
had an awful year. He was definitely one of the
worst guards individually all season. Having him out there in

(01:31:03):
the final game made very very little sense and it
definitely hurt the cause. I'm sure the new offensive line
coach will have his work cut out for them. A
lot of people keep pointing out Tray Smith of the
Chiefs as we sit here today, their guard is set
to be a free agent. I think they say it knowing,
but the Chiefs are probably gonna sign him, aren't they.
The Chiefs. They gotta be smarter than that. They've got

(01:31:24):
Pat Mahomes to open up.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
I'll probably just draft the guy who's better at the
back end of the first round, like they always do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Yeah, I hate the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Look at the Chiefs after the Bucks Super Bowl when
they got thrashed because.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
The three fifths of their starting line were like hurt
for that game, were they not?

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
They replaced three fifths of their starting offensive line immediately
successful that very top season, Creed Humphrey drafted Trey Smith
drafted and not early, and they made a move at
tackle and all overnight they fixed the only glaring problem
with their team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
As we have watched the postseason, both while the Texans
were alive just a week ago, and you know, moving forward,
I've been just more convinced more than ever before. If
they even had a little better offensive line, play like
one of those guard positions was an absolute disastrous the

(01:32:18):
Texans are probably, if not in the AFC Championship Game.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
They're probably in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Because I don't think half the issues that CJ faced happened.
I mean, maybe he doesn't hold on to the balls.
I don't I'm tired of trying to figure out the
percentages of blame with regards to, you know, the offense
and why did this that and the other? With Bobby
Slowick with just one better offensive line, I really think

(01:32:44):
it makes that much of a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
But even if you know, it'll give.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
You one item of information, one statistic for you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Stroud in this postseason, he was sacked three times in
one game. Probably guess which one. That one's not the
one where he got eight sacks. That's eleven, Yeah, eleven
times sacked. And I'm not getting into the pressures in
the quarterback hits, even though they are important. If you
recall against Cleveland and Baltimore the year prior, with a

(01:33:12):
slightly better offensive line, he was sacked zero times in
the game they clabbered Cleveland, and then when they got clawbered,
he was also sacked zero times. He's been sacked eleven
times in four games in the postseason, all of them
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Yeah, it's I mean, I'm sorry, but and I know
that the defense is going to change at least a
little bit. But the principals are in place to have
yet another fantastic defense, especially in the secondary and especially
in the pass rush. I mean, Danian Huntern. Unless Daniel
Hunter and or Will Anderson get hurt, they're going to
be back. And I don't think they're going to suck

(01:33:48):
next year for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
I already know what my bold prediction will be again,
that they won't suck, that they'll get thirty sacks as
a duo like they did not quite do this year.
What was the total, I was thirteen and a half
and twelve and a half, I think is how they finished.
But Will also said you're not playing me in this
last game, you don't need me, and they probably he
probably would have gotten five in that game. It's possible

(01:34:09):
Titans have a tendency to leave their guys out there
for sacks more often than most as they continue to
not have an answer. Twenty three sacks between them is
how they finished not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
And again, when all is said and done, I know
it's easier said than done, but fix this line. And again,
I don't know who you're hiring as offensive coordinator, but
I would assume just by making a hire you would
improve offensively.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
I don't think there's any doubt. It's certainly a topic
we need to continue on. Like I said earlier, it
is Monday. They just took care of this late last week.
There are seven teams that changed their head coaches. One
of them has yet to announce who that will be.
That's New Orleans Saints. Three head coaches found their way
to press conferences today, Pete Carroll, Aaron Glenn and Liam Cohen.

(01:34:59):
We will feature them, hopefully you guys don't mind during
the good, the Bad, and the ugly coming up at
four point thirty, very very biased version of that. It's
kind of a setup if you will, but you guys
will enjoy it and the offensive coordinators that go along
with them. Two of those seven spots have been filled.
The Patriots have a new OC and Ben Johnson in

(01:35:19):
Chicago has hired a new OC I think we found
out pretty clearly today that coach Schottenheimer's calling plays in Dallas.
My god, Jerry was slobbering over. We could not lose
him because we loved him as a play caller. But
there are still other openings around the league, and the
Texans are now among them in searching for our offensive coordinator.
Only one of them is a recent champion, Chip Kelly.

(01:35:43):
He won the championship just a couple of days ago.
We'll dig in on that conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Next the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety. Touchdown Texas
coach Stark.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Here back to the eighteen with the Adams, Adam West
and Adam Clinton on Sports Talk seven to ninety, Houston's
home of Longhorn Football.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
I'll give you a choice here, Jerry or the Rockets.
It doesn't matter, No, you have to make the choice.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
All right, Let's talk about sex and ZC.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
All right, that's not the two choices.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
I know I would have teased either of those had
I tease either of those, but I did not. Let's
talk about Houston. Which of those two that you offered
were Houston based?

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Oh? Definitely, Jerry.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Okay, talk about Jerry some more.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
No, no, no, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
I actually wanted to talk about the Rockets a little
bit earlier in the program. First, the first thing is
the power rankings phenomenon that has, you know, burst onto
the scenes since social media became a thing. Normally don't
even pay any attention to that, although do you feel
like some of the league based power rankings at least

(01:37:07):
have a little bit more credence to them than just
run of the mill news outlet.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
What's a league based power rank You mean NBA dot com? Yeah,
for example, In this case, they're all If they're statistically based,
they are something, and if they're not, then they're usually
meant to generate clicks or conversation. Normally, when you see
a graphic from bleacher Report or some other entity clutch points.

(01:37:32):
I'm not negative about them, it's usually a conversation starter,
not necessarily a this is very accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Okay, Well, the Rockets are number two, so that's that's
a big deal, especially when you consider that the only
team they trail in these power rankings is the Thunder
and they've beaten them, by the way, but they just
swept the calves. And if you want to talk about, well,
the Caves didn't have Evan Mobley back you okay, Well
they had them the other night and they still won

(01:37:58):
that game despite giving up forty seven points in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
I loved ema Udoga, he said, quote.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
It hurts my heart to see them give up that many,
especially in the fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Our producer Josh ce can vouch for this. Early, early, early,
early in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
The fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
I think it was after their first three point shot
that went in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
The guys like a million went in.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
No, their first three point shot of the fourth quarter.
I said to him, the I mean, everybody, including the Rockets,
should know, the only chance the Cavs have getting back
in this game is launching and making. All they have
to do is prevent that. That's it, It's all they
have to do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
You know what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
They didn't prevent it at all, and a million.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
They fouled three different three point shooters on a three
point shot and gave them nine free throws. Well, they
thought it was fun to end the game that way
the other night. And you know Darius Garland wasn't missing
two out of three.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Well, the good news was, unlike the game they won
here in Houston, they were scoring the Cavs scored forty seven.
But the Rockets were having They had no trouble scoring.
They scored thirty three points or more four consecutive quarters
right in Saturday night to win, and that was the
same in the fourth quarter, or else they would.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Have gotten beaten by all. It was just enough to
win by four.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
It was, but that it's why it took forever for
the Calves to catch up. They were scoring three here,
three here, six here, two more and it didn't matter
because the Rockets kept up with them. And then they
made enough of their own free throws late. Tarr Easton
had a humongous block late, and they scored if they
weren't able to score if the You know, the Calves
are not overall all season, I wouldn't categorize them as

(01:39:28):
a poor defensive team. But the last week, the last
five games, they're among the worst. And they actually gave
up the worst three point shooting percentage in the entire
league the last five games. Guess who played them two
of those five games, Houston and Philadelphia. Everybody's been scoring
on them at will. They outscored by They scored one

(01:39:49):
hundred and thirty five points. Now, the Rockets won their
first Game of the Year when allowing one to twenty plus.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
I hate, hate, hate, I have told you this with
regards to the Rockets, but here I'm gonna give some
some love to Cleveland. Why in a home and home
for the Rockets, is it not a home and home
in general? Yeah, they had a back to back. They
played in Phillies the night before. I mean, come on, NBA,
I know there's a lot that goes into this. I
don't care get rid of back to backs. I don't

(01:40:15):
care if you have to expand the schedule from the
calendar standpoint, it's just just kick about it. Every time
you say it, that's a month.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
You have to add a month roughly, probably more like
five to six weeks because let's say on let's say
the Rockets have fifteen back to backs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
It used to be an average of like twenty to
twenty five for most teams.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Now, yeah, they've eliminated four games and five nights, which
was ridiculous. It's just Rockets have another three games and
four nights beginning tonight. These calves have the same thing
that ends tonight. They rock We're back to backs between
now and the All Star break. The Rockets, the Rockets
have six games between February month and February ninth.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
I love February month every year I get a little
older on that day.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
But yeah, I just I hate that because I wanted
to see these two teams play each other with the
same amount of rest at one place and then the other.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
Well, when they had the same amount of rest, the
Rockets beat him by one. When the Rockets had a
little bit more rest, they beat him by four.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
I guess it was four points worse.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Now, if you wanted to get into the power rankings,
I think their records are correct and I would power
rank them the same way. Even though the Rockets have
beaten the Calves both times, I think it's still fair
to look at their overall seasons even where they sit
today and have the thunder the Calves, the Celtics, the Rockets.

(01:41:27):
The Celtics have the same number of losses as Houston.
By the way, going to loss to the Celtics, Yeah,
but the losses is to the Celtics, and the Celtics
are thirty two and fourteen. You're thirty and fourteen, and
the game against the Celtics it's not particularly close, but.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Also didn't feature him and Thompson. That's very important.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
You mean their current best player. I used the word
best in this instance to mean impactful because I don't
I don't want it to sound like Jalen Green isn't
killing it. Because he had another awesome game last night.
He is now no longer the reigning Western Conference Player
of the Week because today's Monday. They handed it out
to somebody else. But among the Western Conference nominees was

(01:42:05):
Amn Thompson, and he comes off his second career triple double.
He had twenty three points, fourteen of them were in
the fourth quarter. He had ten assists in Jabari Smith's slot.
If you hadn't figured out already, how much different the
Rockets play basketball when Amn Thompson is out there, that's
a big route. That's a big difference in how he
can help facilitate things, how he sees the court.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Jabari's not getting a starting job back. I got news
for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
One of the posts I actually got around to hitting
send on this weekend was most minutes played per game
among starters in the Western Conference minimum of ten games started.
It's a who's who of the best players in the NBA.
Kyrie Irving dearon Fox, demanas sabonas Kevin Durant, all the

(01:42:50):
best the West has to offer a fourteen times All
Star Kyrie Irving, an eight time All Star. Well, they're
eight through two, because Amen Thompson is number one, yeah, one,
now that he has become a starter in the fourteen
games that he started against everybody else in the games
they've started, no coach has a player on the court
more than e may with Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
He's in the.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
West, the most untouchable guy on this roster.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
If you're like, oh, Rocket's gotta make a deal, they
gotta take down next to He's there isn't a player
that you could offer any player Wex you know who
I'm talking about, all of the best players in the NBA,
Shay Gill, just Alex Okay, maybe him, Yeah, a player
that could be offered again, right, but let's just say,
for the sake of argument, how many players would a

(01:43:36):
team have to offer, And you'd be like, all right,
I'll give up him in Thompson one two.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Well, that's the thing that you've already answered your own question.
If the player isn't a player you want in a
men's place, then it doesn't matter what they offer, right,
because you can get nine assets in a deal. But
if the one you give the other team is the
best player, you're guessing on the future draft picks, and
maybe it's in a good draft, and maybe it's here,
maybe he's protected, maybe it's not. You're taking a huge,

(01:44:02):
huge risk, and in this case, the best player that
you're giving up, he's two years in, he's twenty one,
not amulet content, not trying to get suspended indefinitely like
Jimmy Butler just.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Did Oh my gosh, that happened like during the last segment,
and it's just amazing. I had a conversation the other
night with somebody who would know. He said a men
Jabbari and I can't remember who the but it was
one of their young core are in a competition to
see who can be the most perfect person on the

(01:44:36):
planet from the standpoint of behaviorally organizational harmony. This is
aside from the fact that they're spectacular players right now,
and aman Thompson is leading the pack, but just barely.
Like on top of everything else, he's like the best
dude ever. He is in if you could develop him

(01:44:57):
in a lab from a player athleticism and you know,
in the community standpoint, it's kind of like what we
used to say about JJ Watt with the Texans. That
looks like Bob McNair went into a lab and designed
his perfect prototypical I'm Texan worthy player. Well ament Thompson
is Rockets worthy, and then some he's a freak too.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Did I mention that well, his teammates did, and have
an opportunity probably tomorrow to get to some of the
very very specific words as teammates used to describe him.
I thought it was pretty entertaining in how he kind
of described himself. If you missed it over the weekend
and all the statistics and the triple double that he
put up, you know, the NBA actually grabbed it and

(01:45:38):
put it together. The question from at Sports Vanessa, that's
Vanessa Richards. Ye, yes, she of course is right here
on Space City Home Network as the Rockets Sideline report
or a host of Rockets programming, And she asked a
men about, oh, it's a seven footer. You were defending
you you blocked Devin Mobley shot as you know, things

(01:45:58):
like that surprise you because no, that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
I do that. I do that. No, I mean He's right,
he does.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I mean, and what's been hilarious is both Craig and
Matt's reactions to some of the things he's done in
recent games. He's he's stunning us on the broadcast in
real time.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
I know you've seen this as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
It's just you're like, how did he get his nose
in there to get that rebound?

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Offensive or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
You had a chance to hear it if you were
listening to the post game. That was basically what I
was referring to Steven Adams talking about Aman Thompson.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
They've got the Celtics tonight right here. On Sports Talk
seven ninety, of course, Space City Home Network six thirty
Tip four thirties, we do our Space signature segment. The Good,
the Bad, the Ugly is next.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
The age. On Sports Talk seven ninety, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Now the good, good, the bad that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Good, and the ugly that's getting real ugly with.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
The A team.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
It is signature segment time on a Monday. That doesn't
mean the good, the bad, the ugly, although we're gonna
spin it a little bit this time. We've been doing
that recently here with what we do on Wednesdays, Wednesday's BS.
We don't even all the time bitsteal anymore. Sometimes we
literally have so much BS to talk about that fits
so well. So today we're gonna change up the good, bad,

(01:47:38):
the ugly a little bit, because, honestly, it would have
been pretty easy to figure out. You know, the good
Rockets beating the Caves for a second straight time, dominating,
just crushing it. One of the best teams in the
NBA's That's that's an easy good. The bad was you know,
Josh Allen coming up short again and the Bills going
home crying in their beers again. And the ugly was
the officiating. It's it's really easy. There's the whole segment,

(01:47:59):
all right, break, I decided let's go a different route.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Oh, we've executive decision.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
We've got seven head coaching jobs that were available at
times this offseason, and two of them have been filled
pretty quickly. A third field not too far behind, four
or five, six similarly cowboys among them. And still sit
around and wait for these Saints to get to the
heart of the matter and hire themselves a head coach.
Titans have been busy hiring personnel people. They actually have

(01:48:24):
done a remarkably good job in putting remarkably good personnel
people in their front office, getting rid of Ran Carthon
after a very very short time there, and hiring Mike
Borganzi and Reggie McKenzie and Ziegler all to Chad Brinker
just in an effort to catch the text and so

(01:48:44):
which pretty much what everybody is after that isn't already
ahead of them, which is a few teams, but three
coaches in particular met with their respective media contingents and
their fans to a certain extent today depending on what
activities their spots held them. You guys are famil your
social media. It'll be a little bit more difficult for
Dan to play, and that he has heard the sound bites.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
But social media they have.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
It's been a new way for people to get other
people to blind rank things like I'm gonna give you
ten Major League Baseball players and you're gonna blind rank them. Well,
you get you get a player and you're like, well
that's good. Player's pretty awesome. But is he gonna give
me three more players that are even more awesome. But
I put them first and I put them fifth. I
don't know what to do. We're gonna do that with
these three pieces of audio from three of the coaches

(01:49:31):
that were in front of the media today, in front
of the fans today, and you choose where you would
rank them. They don't necessarily be good and bad and ugly.
If you feel like it fits, then you can so
term it. Otherwise you're essentially just.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
Trying to play some best, not as good and worst stinky,
Yes so too. At Dan's discretion, he can play whichever
of the three sound bites from the three respective coaches.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
You'll hear the SoundBite. I'll tell you who it is.
If you don't already know, I think it'll be pretty
obvious from what they say. And you blind rank them,
you know, first, second or third, best, not quite as
good and worst?

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Can you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
I think so?

Speaker 4 (01:50:10):
All right, let's hit the people with number one.

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
To any players that's here, now, put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Listen. There are going to be some challenges, but what.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Challenges becomes opportunity gets opportunity. But here's what I do know.
We're the freaking New York Jets. So we're built for
this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
I think based on what he said and how he
said it, and the voice that's familiar, that's New York Jets,
new head coach Aaron Glenn. Would you rate that as
the good, the not quite as good, or the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
It's probably gonna be the good.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
That seems reasonable.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
He went on to say the same thing Jamiko said
here two years ago, and we talked about it last week.
He didn't just take the job. He's not just going
back to his former team he hit the off season.
This is the job I want. I'm not leaving here
without this job. On my second interview, I don't want
to take other interviews elsewhere. I don't want to be
the head coach somewhere else. I want New Orleans' job.

(01:51:15):
Had nothing to do with what they might be. It's
I want this job. He just said, we're the freaking Jets.
It's about the Jets, and we're for this now. He
also went on to say you can't build culture at
the podium. You can't build culture with a you know
press conference, and he talked about what it will take. Okay,
well we'll slot that in as the good. So you're
left with the not as good and the worst Dan
the next coach SoundBite.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Please with our guys, I know that we have a
good draw for people might come.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
Here, you go, here you go. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
May Mark settled down a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
But that was an audience member, presumably Mark or Marshawn
Lynch I've heard was the person yelling out Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
You could have fooled me that it was just a
regular old run of the Mill Raiders fan.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
So that was peak Carroll, Carrol new head coach of
the Raiders, young man ready to fire it up again
after successful runs in college to a national championship in
the NFL to a title, a good run there with
Seattle for a number of years, and they moved on
from him. So would you rate that as the not
quite as good as Aaron Glenn if that in fact
was the best one or the worst? Not quite as good,

(01:52:21):
not quite as good. So you're down with what he
had to say, And mind you, I've picked out a
random SoundBite from all there might have been parts of
Pete's press conference, you thought, oh my god, this is awful,
or I want to run through a wall. Similarly, with Aaron,
there were lots of things to say. He spoke for
about six or so minutes without yet even getting to questions,
and he even talked about Aaron Rodgers, which could have
ultimately ended up in it being the worst. Now again,

(01:52:44):
if you're comfortable with where you've slotted things, this would
have to be slotted in. It's inevitable. Now this has
to be the worst. Tell me if you think it
fits due. Yeah, that's Liam Cohen at the podium upon request.
I mean, a new head coach in the AFC South
for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Again, I've chosen it. That's at

(01:53:07):
my own discretion. What soundby you heard? He might have said,
you know, we really have to figure out a way
to make Trevor Lawrence the quarterback we all know he
can be, and it's on us to put an offensive
game plan around him. It's on us to put the
talent around him. And people were crapping all this division
all year, you know, and we were playing against them.
You know, we we know what what life, We're ready.

(01:53:30):
This is our division here's what I've said all those things,
here's what you have going to give you if you're
the jag Wars. Can we hear it again?

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Play Yeah, yeah, one more time, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Okay, that's your head coach. He's the new bird game. Guys,
it's not even his fault because the only thing you
do have going for you, other than the name of
the county in which you play, is that you're not
the Cowboys and therefore owned by Jerry Jones. But that's
not even that big of a deal because your owner
might very soon be worse. He just hasn't had as

(01:54:01):
long to be bad. I mean, the Chad Kahn is
doing his best to make it a joke of a franchise.
They don't even play all their home games there because
they go to London or wherever. They don't have a
franchise quarterback, but they paid him as such. I mean,
you could even argue the Cowboys are in the same position,

(01:54:23):
but at least their non franchise quarterback is better than
the Jags non franchise quarterback. And nobody screams out, well,
I was gonna say Terran County, but well, Arlington's where
they actually play it's not even in Dallas. It's just
so shod. I nailed those, by the way, all three
of them. They weren't very difficult while they are also
presented to me in order. You never know, Yeah, you

(01:54:44):
never know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
That's a fun game, you guys can I'm sure hit
your reels or in your four you page and you'll
see that somewhere erin Glynn does know that he coaches
the Jets, right, not the old Jets. These are the
new Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
They do have talent on that roster, just not at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
I mean, now, I don't have a transcript, and I
didn't hear it in its entirety. I did my best.
I had a lot of press conferences listen to today.
Oh my gosh, I got some grocery store time listening
to Jerry Steve and to Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
So surplus grocery or just regular grocery, regular grocery.

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
Okay, if we were actually a bit stealing and we
were going with ain't nobody got time for that Monday
at the grocery store. There's nobody there. It should be
easy to cart your way through it. Stop stopping in
the middle of the of the aisle. With your cart

(01:55:34):
and walking away from it to look for your goods.
There's nobody there. How can you still be in the
way just a small item. As you pick up a
small item, there you go. It's taken intra segment in
the books.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
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and certainly don't get your blood pressure up over the
fact that you hit it hard over the holidays.

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Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Com, Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
The A team now continues.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
You know you were talking about the h the addition
to the Jacksonville Jaguars via the SoundBite you gave us.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
And by the way, that'll be the Jaguars new play caller,
their head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Oh, he's also calling the place okay good. And you
mentioned that someone around the league had said that that's
going to be the kneecaps moment.

Speaker 4 (01:57:24):
He said, Greg Rosenthal NFL dot Com had said he
was watching it live and that was his thought. He goes,
I thought when I saw that, Oh, that's the biting
kneecaps of this cycle.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
How yeah, there it is. How would you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Well, well, let me rephrase it this way. Going into
twenty twenty five, are you a little nervous if you're
a Lions fan?

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
Oh? For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
You was talking to somebody from Detroit this weekend, Hunter Brown,
and we were talking about the Lions the Big Giants postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
You know, they played here. Were you here? Did you
go to the game?

Speaker 5 (01:58:03):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
I was in Michigan at the time, and I said
this to him. I can't remember his honor off the
air because we were also talking about snow day and
how much he enjoyed it here when we asked him
what he did and he was talking about things, and
you know, he said, well, I asked him about people driving.
We shut the city down, so nobody did anything. So
that was probably the way for Houstonians to handle it.

(01:58:23):
And I said to him, would you think of all that?
He goes, well, my apartment. I can see the highway
for my apartment, and let's just say I was a
bit concerned obviously from who he saw trying to make
their way around. But I was talking to about the Lions,
and you can't help that have the feeling when you
watch their o C, their d C and two other
coaches currently if that number is going to grow much

(01:58:44):
larger leave this offseason with both Johnson and Glenn getting hired.
Williams is the d C in New England now for
Mike Vrabel, Antoine Randall l has left this They're going
to have a tremendous amount of turnover in the coaching
staff and you can't help but feel like that this
was our year. We did this was it, this was
going to be. Not that they're going away and this

(01:59:05):
is their second straight year of being elite, but he
kind of felt like some of the things that were
happening were magical. Now, your hope is all the players
they lost return next year, and it isn't going away,
but Jared Goss will be going to be getting place
from somebody else this year, and they're the whole offense.
I mean, it's not necessarily entirely new, but it's a
totally different dynamic when you have a new OC, and defensively,

(01:59:26):
the same thing's going to happen, and great, Aiden Hutchinson
will be back in somebody else's defense, and you know, great,
we'll have a full arsenal offensive players where they had
far fewer injuries, but it's with a different OC. And
all the while, Chicago just hired Ben Johnson for Caleb Williams.
The Vikings played you in the last game of the
regular season for the division title, and the Packers are

(01:59:47):
probably going back to the playoffs again next year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Also, So having asked that question about the Lions, I
know that we just think and I even said this
on Today's show. That and well, it stands the reason
that the Texans offense has to improve. It can't get
much worse. What if it doesn't. What if you don't
what if you botch this hire. Let's just say you

(02:00:10):
hired Chip Kelly. I would be excited. But what if
it's as underwhelming as an offensive coordinator as it was
as a head coach in Philadelphia? You said that the
other day.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
So his time in San Francisco after Philadelphia was hired
immediately the following year. He lasted one year there was awful.
Now we've heard some negative things from inside the building
in Philadelphia, for sure, players that weren't really happy with him.
The dynamic there wasn't particularly good. It's why it only
lasted three years. But they were good the first two years.
They went to the playoffs in year one. I don't

(02:00:41):
think the actual you know, the wins and losses weren't
as bad as what it sounds like from what it
felt away from it, like this is just a bad situation.
We've got to move on. I mean, he won twenty
six of the forty seven games he coached there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
Did he was fired before the season ended, Yeah, he
was fired a year after back to back ten win season,
so clearly it was more than wins and loss. Has
heard an interesting conversation on Chris Long's podcast. He had
Kylie Kelsey's husband as a guest, former Eagle center Travis's brother,

(02:01:16):
the more likable Kelsey, and call that he's actually the
bigger Kelsey currently because if you're watching a show and
it goes to commercial, you're gonna see Jason Kelcey, probably
pretty good chance you're gonna see him.

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
Yeah, but he's talking.

Speaker 4 (02:01:30):
About how he had to change his body and how
it affected their offense. It's the lightest he's ever played
when he was playing in Chip Kelly's offense, and a
lot of our drives were well, they were either three
and outs or we scored, and so it affected our defense.
It affected how we were playing against other defensive fronts
because of how fresh they might be or how easily

(02:01:51):
it was for them to bring everything they had because
we weren't necessarily wearing them down. And with me and
others at that weight, it was a little different as
a very very different way to play. And I think
this is twenty thirteen and fourteen and fifteen. I think
the league has changed a lot since then, even just
over a little over ten years, So I don't know
that it's quite the way things would do it. And

(02:02:11):
the other part of the big, big, big part of
every one of these, well, this is how you used
to do it, and this is what happened. It's not
the first time Chip Kelly is gonna be an NFL
coach calling plays, and maybe his first time, so to speak,
as a OC at.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
The NFL level.

Speaker 4 (02:02:24):
Guess what normally happens. You're better at it the next time.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
The dynamics of the locker room, the dynamics of being,
you know, figuring out how your players need to relate
to working with your head coach in this situation, and
just simply play calling, and what might be a better
playbook to bring to an NFL field than maybe the
one they had in Philly.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
You know, sometimes you just need a practice round.

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
You know, before you said anything, I sensed where you
were going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
And I can't believe it just dawned on me that
that is I am the Chip Kelly President.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
I just said it about NFL coaches or anybody else.
I guess it could stand a reason that the com
mander in chief could also follow that same path. Some
people even liked the first go round, well, then they
should like the second go round more. If as I said,
it would be better, I mean, I'll run that route.
I'd like to think like that, you get a second
chance to be the commander in chief, regardless of how

(02:03:17):
well or not well the first one went. The assumption
by me as I just stated, round number two will
be better.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
I like that. That's a good way to think about it.
Regardless of how you feel. The experience factor is unmistakable
in both cases. You can't it can be. These are jobs.
I know, one is coach in the NFL, on the
other as leader of the free world, but again leading
leader of people. Any job with that much pressure or

(02:03:44):
an inordinate amount of pressure, you would just assume that
with experience, because the fact that you're getting the job
again says well, at least some people thought you were
qualified to get hired for it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
So if you had experienced the first time.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
And maybe things didn't go well, you could avoid those
things and while doing the good things that the people
that brought you in this second go round?

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
What have you do?

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
And I look, chip Kelly, I asked you during one
of the breaks is like, you know, if you're not
wanting Chip Kelly for whatever reason, you don't like the
way things happened in Philadelphia or ended there. I guess
you don't like the things the way things went down
in San Francisco, or you don't like the offense or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:04:21):
If you don't, if you're not a Chip.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Kelly guy, and you know that Bobby Slowick's not coming back,
as is not the offensive line coach and his assistant,
who do you want that's.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
So overwhelmingly better?

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
And I'm talking to everybody here that you would say,
all right, I'd rather have that person over Chip Kelly
because I'm just thinking about CJ. Stroud in, like, say,
Oregon's offense, That's what I'm thinking right now, let's put
up fifty a game.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
Yeah, So Oregon's offense stop being Chip Kelly's Oregon offense.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Even longer ago than that, obviously long ways, but longer
than I even realized.

Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
But he was an offensive coordinator first, and then he
was the offensive coordinator and head coach play caller second,
all at and has done that at different times. It's
an interesting question when you consider some of the early
names we've heard as candidates. So football at five hits
us next, and that's what we'll be, you know, talking
about Chip Kelly is a candidate. There's three other names
you've probably heard, one of whom you can hear all

(02:05:15):
you want now, But he's no longer a candidate because
he already has a job doing exactly what the textans.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
God good here his dang good kid.

Speaker 4 (02:05:22):
He's got a kid the first letter of his first name,
like his brothers.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
So we'll get into that and why one might be
better than the other, and what one of them has
over all of the others. There are other names out there,
but these four the ones you heard first, so that
the first ones we will talk about when we come
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Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
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So are we at a like once a month? It
doesn't work once a week?

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
I think you're just missing it, not realizing it, so
it's an operator probably, well maybe, but that that area.
Like I'm a I'm in a very compacted have a
larger workspace, like I feel like someday I'm just gonna
jump over there just to see if anybody freaks out.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
I wouldn't but our television about anything, though, it'd be
a little bit cumbersome.

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
Moreh is he over there?

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
And why does he have images bouncing on the screen
behind him?

Speaker 4 (02:07:49):
Yeah, we'd have to work on the screen behind you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
We'd make that work.

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
But I had already turned my microphone on for the segments,
but I didn't, so we start again. We were going
to talk about the opening for the Houston Tech since
these other positions that became available around the NFL. He
had seven teams looking for a new head coach and
thus likely some coordinator jobs to go with it. Dallas
bad football, New Orleans bad football, Jacksonville that's bad football,

(02:08:16):
Jets bad football, New England bad football, Raiders bad football.
They fired their head coaches and in turn, now they
need a new offensive coordinator. Could be the same person,
but that's what they're looking for. Some of those positions
have been filled, others are still open, and the Texans
played really good football. They played good enough football to

(02:08:37):
have a nineteen game season. They were one of the
final four teams in the AFC is still playing and
as it looks right now, I would suspect the Bills
aren't making any significant coaching changes, the Ravens aren't making
significant coaching changes, and the Chiefs aren't making significant coaching
changes unless the Saints are holding out to hire Steve
Spagnolo as their new head coach. But the other of

(02:08:59):
the four teams, the Texans in the AFC's final four,
wasn't good enough. It's the same as those other seven
teams that made coaching change. It's the same as the
Colts who fired their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
They fired their offensive.

Speaker 4 (02:09:15):
Coordinator because, just like those other teams, it wasn't good
enough and they weren't sure it was going to get better.
First four names I think most of us heard or
thought of with a possible replacement for Bobby Slowick Chip Kelly,
former Eagles head coach. Three years he was there in
Philadelphia coincided with the three years that Demiico Ryans was
playing in Philadelphia, and obviously, for those that don't know,

(02:09:38):
he was the he succeeded Bill O'Brien as offensive coordinator
at Ohio State. Bill was there for five minutes this offseason.
Then Chip actually coached.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
And those they just won the national title and his
offense with Will Howard, a non NFL prospect probably as
their quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:09:57):
Now, they're pretty talented everywhere else. Arguably the most talented
team in all of college football, both offensively and defensively.
They were very, very very good on offense. It still
makes me say, yeah, how did they lose to Michigan
and how come they couldn't do anything against them?

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
Well, how did the Texans lose to the Titans? Okay,
So Chip Kelly's.

Speaker 4 (02:10:18):
A name you heard, and I'm gonna set him aside
because he's different, and I'll tell you why as we
run through the other three.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
Jerrod Johnson definitely in the mix and should be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
He was part of this team for all of Jamiico's
time here each of these past two years as quarterback coach.
You certainly would look at Bobby and Gerard and Bill Laser,
who's senior offensive advisor. They have all had some hand
in how CJ is adapted from college quarterback to very
very good NFL quarterback and should be treated as such.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
He's part of the reason why CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:10:46):
Stroud has been very good here and why the offense
was expected to be better. And so when you lean
on that now you're starting to Okay, well, maybe he
was here and it wasn't good. So is this really
the direction you want to go?

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
If he's the offensive coordinator here or elsewhere, it's his
first opportunity to be in OC, and presumably with Demiko
as the head coach, he would be the play caller.

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
He's a name you've heard. Nick Keyley is another name
you've heard. He's got connections to Nick Cassario from his
time in New England. He's got connections to a lot
of NFL places now where he's been in the last
couple of years. Spent his last year with the Los
Angeles Rams. He was on a very good offensive coaching
staff last two years this year is the tight ends coach,

(02:11:28):
past game coordinator. As I mentioned, he was with the
Patriots quite a bit before that. He has actually been
mentioned quite a bit with the Jets job, so a
pretty reasonable thought as yeah, next step is OC. Well,
when he's n OC, he will be calling plays like
Gerad Johnson for the first time. And one other name
you heard was Clint Kubiak, no longer available, was officially

(02:11:51):
hired as the Seattle Seahawks new offensive coordinator. He had
been in San Francisco for a bit, and he'd been
a couple of other places. He obviously has connections to
well everybody because his last name is Kubiak. But he
was with the Saints of the OC this past year.
He was with the Niners after Bobby Slog and Debiko

(02:12:12):
Rans left for Houston. Was only there for a year.
It's been with the Vikings and Broncos around that. He
has Shanahan Kubiak offensive principles Duh West Coast offense. Yes,
so his experience as an OC isn't zero. He's been
one for a season trying to get the most out

(02:12:35):
of Derek Carr, Spencer Rattler and Jake Hamer as one
of the worst teams in the NFC. Now he's gonna
do it for Seattle. That's why Chip Kelly, at least
among this group, was not like them. This isn't new
to him. It would not be new to him to
call plays to be an OC that's running the whole show.
Probably with limited interference from the head coach, clearly focuses

(02:12:58):
on the defense. It's just like when Billow Brian was here.
Just flip it. He barely even watched the defense, let
alone had much to say about what they were doing.
Hired a DC and that's their job and that's what
they do, and that would be the same way. I
think Chip Kelly or maybe any of these same way
Bobby was treated here. It's his offense, he's calling plays,
there's input, we're going forward here, fourth down, etc. Things
like that, for sure, But at least those three candidates,

(02:13:21):
one of whom is now no longer available, and Chip Kelly,
they would just there's no way you could consider them
the same. And if you're looking at what might also
be helpful for Demiko, well, you happen to be hiring
a head coach to work underneath you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
You don't have that on the staff. Can't he help you?

Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
Also, he's been a head coach at the NFL level twice,
He's been a head coach at the college level for
a long time and very successfully. You would think a
mind or a person like that would be very helpful.
And he obviously brought him up as an introductory press
conference a couple of Februaries ago. As we mentioned last
week about what a great motivator, he is a great

(02:14:01):
innovator offensively and someone who likes to use the information
that every coach in every sport has at their disposal,
Yet not all of them use it because they are.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Dumb.

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
They're stubborn.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
Stubborn is the one that I think, I mean, maybe
dumb was me, Well, no, but people are dumb. I mean,
Jerry is dumb.

Speaker 4 (02:14:23):
So that's just for the first go round of the
names you might have heard, and it's it's a tough spot.
At some point you have to be It has to
be your first job, it has to be your first opportunity.
But the Texans just did that. Are they really going
to do it again? Well, then why did they fire
Bobby Slok. He's already ahead of those two guys, Nick
Kayley and Jerrad Johnson. He's been an OC for two years.

(02:14:46):
You're OC. He's worked with Jerrod. You hired him as
a first time OC. Maybe you didn't realize how good
you were gonna have it so quickly, but when you
did in year two, you said, well, we need to
make a bigger jump. We need to do more with
what we have, no matter what we have next year year,
And that's why they fired.

Speaker 3 (02:15:02):
This is why, Well, this isn't why.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
This is another reason why I want Chip Kelly because
I remember when the Texans hired to Miko Well. I
was excited about it as everybody else, but I was
more excited about it from the standpoint of I knew
the culture side of things had a very good chance
of not only turning, but turning for the positive because
of how that guy was as a player, having just

(02:15:26):
covered him, let alone seeing how he led a team
you know, weekend and we week out as a as
a quarterback of a defense type of person.

Speaker 3 (02:15:34):
But I still did I had doubts.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
I mean, anytime it's a first first time head coach,
you're gonna have them. The Texans are at a place
right now where they I don't think they can afford
to find that out. They just found that out with
Bobby slok Now is it because of Bobby slok All?

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
Not necessarily, but.

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
Whatever has gone wrong for the Texans offensively, they are
not in t Meek specifically. I know he'll probably still
have us longer of a leash than anybody out there
because of the organization he works for. But I just
feel like, especially with CJ still being on his rookie
contract and everything else that goes with that, you can't
You don't have time in the NFL in general to

(02:16:17):
find out when you could have if you're good, a
proven commodity. And it's why I just leaned towards Chip
because again, I'm absolutely seduced by what he's done at
other places. But the experience that we just got on
talking about last segment, that's a huge part of it.
Let's hit the ground running. I don't want to see CJ,
by the way, doing any podcasts or anything like that.

(02:16:38):
He's already said I'm not going to the Pro Bowl.
Good get in the like I want. I want the
Texans to come out. I only went five and one
to start the year. People forget that, but I don't.
I want it to be because of the offense, not
in spite of it. At times, I want them to
destroy people Week one next season.

Speaker 5 (02:16:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:16:55):
Grant Yudinsky of the Vikings, obviously working under Kevin O'Connell
be another name. I'm not sure that it will get
attached to Houston, but someone who's of interest to teams
looking for an OC. The Bucks, I believe have interviewed him.
Marcus Brady of the Chargers is another name you might hear,
and I don't think you're gonna hear this name for Houston,

(02:17:16):
but it's an interesting one and I wouldn't absolutely say
no on that on their interest in him. I just
mentioned Yudinsky was working with o'connellen in Minnesota. I think
we're all pretty positive about how they've I mean, last year,
when they had a rash of injuries at quarterback, I
thought he did an amazing He and his offensive staff
did a great job making their way through figuring out

(02:17:37):
how to win with each guy, and they really had
a pretty good time of it. This year, they obviously
got Sam Darnold to help them have an awesome offensive season.
So people on his staff will be considered well. One
of the people on his staff is Josh McCown.

Speaker 2 (02:17:53):
Oh stop it, you can't do this. Stop trying to
make fetch happen. WEX the Texans didn't. Why should you.

Speaker 4 (02:18:00):
Other teams are correctly asking for interviews, asking to interview him.

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
He should be a candidate.

Speaker 4 (02:18:06):
He's been an NFL coach now for a couple of seasons,
an NFL coach there on a good team for now
a season or two. But he still would fit the
same category as each of the people I mentioned that
aren't Chip Kelly. Yeah, why would you hire him in
his first go round as a play caller, But even
the two other names I mentioned, they'd all be going

(02:18:27):
into their first go around and experienced play caller with
head coaching experience like Chip Kelly isn't always available.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
He happens to be now.

Speaker 4 (02:18:36):
If he's so inclined, I mean, he's inclined, it seems
like he would want to go the way he went.
I mean he was at UCLA, and I'm not sure
where he thought he was going to be when the
Ohio State job was not open.

Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
If you have success at Ohio State like you've had,
and again we're coming off a national championship for them,
it's not the same as having success at the NFL level.
If he wants to go back to the NFL, and
maybe he doesn't, Maybe he likes a college game, maybe
it's his speed, maybe it's his you know, whatever the
environment is, both on and off the field, maybe it's
better for him, But if he wants to come back

(02:19:07):
to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
Fast track to do that is to be successful in
an offense.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
I'll give you one more name, and we'll take it
to break and he'll give you his reaction to it.
After a former head coach play caller at the NFL level.

Speaker 3 (02:19:19):
Should I turn my mic Offay.

Speaker 4 (02:19:21):
We fired very familiar with the Texans and what they
like to do. Would he be a candidate for offensive
coordinator with the Houston Texans? His name is coming up
on the other.

Speaker 1 (02:19:33):
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Speaker 3 (02:19:40):
Adam Clinton Adam Wesler.

Speaker 1 (02:19:45):
Back to Houston's eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:19:53):
So I told you there could be an offensive coordinator
candidate just laying out in the weeds that might make
some sense for an NFL team to hire. Texans are
one of the teams that needs a new OC. He's
got head coaching experience, he knows the AFC South very well.
He has Super Bowl experience, he has a Super Bowl

(02:20:14):
ring from his Super Bowl coaching experience. And yet I
wonder if you'll be too excited to hear his name.
It doesn't sound like that I'm not linking him to
Houston in anyway. I'm just merely saying he's an offensive mind.
He's been a play caller, and he's also been a
head coach, and he presumably is looking for work and
that he doesn't have any right now. He's Doug Peterson. O.

Speaker 2 (02:20:39):
See, guys like him are actually, in a way a
little bit like Chip Kelly, except for that Chip Kelly
has had his last performance be better.

Speaker 3 (02:20:51):
He's got the.

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
Residual if you the residue if you will, of his
last gig being less than stellar.

Speaker 3 (02:21:02):
But I don't even think that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:04):
I mean, Doug Peterson, how much of that was his
fault versus he just got acts because his quarterback wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (02:21:10):
And his organization is an absolute disaster.

Speaker 4 (02:21:12):
Last year they went four and thirteen. His first two
seasons there, they won nine games each year. The first
of those two years included a division title and a
playoff victory, and.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
That was coming off the Urban Minor year before when
they lost. Yeah, disaster ball. Yeah, it was embarrassing. Five
years in Philadelphia as a head coach. First year they
were a fourth place team. Last year he was there,
they were a fourth place team. He was not asked
back the.

Speaker 4 (02:21:35):
Three years in between they won the division twice, They
went to the playoffs all three times. They won four
of their six postseason games, including the Super Bowl. His
tenure as an NFL head coach has to be considered
significantly more successful than Chip Kelly's tenure as an NFL
head coach.

Speaker 2 (02:21:55):
Four seasons, two firings. And this is why guys like him,
you know, get snatched up, because people are looking at
they're short sighted. In other words, they're not looking beyond
what have you done for me lately. I would absolutely
have zero problems with that provided And again, I think

(02:22:18):
anybody you bring in, whether they're the most experienced guy
on the planet or whether they're a first time or
the lion's got to get better. And I think we're.

Speaker 4 (02:22:25):
All aware, and you're aware of where his coaching chops
were created. And I just talked about Andy Reid a
lot this afternoon as he out coached Sean Mcdermoty out
coaches everybody. That's why they one of the reasons they
keep winning. This is where Doug Peterson was an offensive coordinator.
He was on his offensive staff for almost a decade

(02:22:47):
and was his oc both in or was with him
as an assistant OC in Philly and then as his
OC in Kansas City before he got his first head
coaching job, which was available because the Evils fired Chip Kelly.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
He succeeded Chip in Philly. This is why, like, you know,
I could very well end up eating my words. But
the Texans just had back to back division championships, and again,
it's a crappy division, so that's not a huge accomplishment
trying to reset the bar. Well, it's not nine to
seven anymore. I'll tell you that much, because it can't be.

(02:23:23):
But I like, what would he have said nine and eight,
nine and eight instead of just hoping things get better
with a retooled offensive line. Texans are like no, and
Demico specifically is like, no, we're going to win.

Speaker 3 (02:23:39):
Our goal is not to just get to the ANFC
championship game.

Speaker 2 (02:23:42):
Like we want to win a super Bowl. It's a
bold move, and again, they might I might end up
beating my words. I love the fact that they're like,
they just did all that and they fired their OC.
The people that are firing their coordinators right now did
not have ten win division championship seasons.

Speaker 3 (02:23:57):
For the most.

Speaker 2 (02:23:58):
Part, they're not in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (02:24:01):
They're in various.

Speaker 2 (02:24:04):
Levels of disarray organizationally, they don't have their quarterback. None
of that applies to the Texans. They just don't want
to stay with the status quo. They don't want to
just be good, They want to be great. I love
that it's about time. It's only taken twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (02:24:19):
Yeah, we let you hear it last week, and we'll
probably use it over the course of the offseason and
all the way until they actually win their way to
an AFC title game or a Super Bowl. Demiko Ryan said,
that's my job. My job is to get us where
we've never been before, get us further than we got
this year, get us to where we believe this organization deserves.

Speaker 2 (02:24:36):
To be and the fans deserve to see.

Speaker 4 (02:24:37):
Well, it means better than what they did the two
years that Demiko has been head coach here with Bobby
Slowik as his OC and thus, among other reasons, I
don't think we know enough to talk too much to
the workings of the team, the day and day out operations,
and maybe there was a little bit more unrest between
players and coach or coaches and coach, or o line

(02:24:59):
and coach, and just things that maybe they felt, in
addition to the clear statistical step back that this offense took,
that there might have been some other things at play
where they decided this made the most sense for the
team moving forward. There's a few other coaching candidates out there,
again not necessarily linked to Houston, but have the kind
of pedigree or I guess resume that suggests it could

(02:25:22):
be somebody that they would talk to. Byron Left which
was being interviewed for head coaching jobs over the last
couple of seasons when he was in the NFL and
obviously the OC with a pretty successful Tampa Bay Bucks
offense at times. He also knows the IFC South well
from a different era. But the majority of offensive coordinator
candidates are those that are looking to be promoted to

(02:25:44):
a job they haven't had before. Doug Peterson and Chip
Kelly would be otherwise, and I do think there's some
value in that. If you think back to Matt Burke,
we talked about it when he was hired here. You know,
he's the defensive coordinator. He coached in a bunch of
different places, but when he was in New York coaching
with Robert Saala, he was essentially the assistant head coach.

(02:26:06):
He was doing things that helped the head coach be
better at his job, and I think he's doing that
similarly here because he's not the play caller on the
defensive staff, but he is working with Tamiko Rians, which
helps him do those things. Ben Johnson took the job
in Chicago and people were asking, well, who's zeroc gonna be? Well,
that person, while not the play caller, needs to help
everybody do their job.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
Including me.

Speaker 4 (02:26:27):
Now, he hired an extremely young person, not a head
coach with former experience in Declan Doyle, so that will
be interesting how that works out. But the defensive coordinator
he hired is Dennis Allen, a former head coach multiple
times over. And while he's not gotten a very good
reputation or results in either of his two stops, he's
got a head coach on his staff, and I think

(02:26:48):
those things will matter. And that's why I do think
there's a possibility if Chip Kelly doesn't emerge as say,
a leading candidate, and I know there's interest from the
Texans and him, I do think some of the I
think Doug Peterson, if he's not resigned to is just
not coaching until he gets in a head coaching job,
and I actually think he's earned the right to do that.
It's not like last offseason, if the Texans were looking

(02:27:11):
for a defensive coordinator, I probably wouldn't have said, we'll
see if Bill Belichick wants to be there DC. I
don't think he's gonna go be a coordinator, and he's
show him this year he's not going to be a coordinator.
And I wonder if Peterson feels similarly. Doug Maroon, who's
been an NFL head coach, m multiple times, what's up
all dougs? Well, he is now being staffed again, and
I think it's a it's probably a pretty I think

(02:27:33):
it's a pretty good hire. The Patriots are expected to
hire Doug Maroon to Mike Rabel's staff.

Speaker 2 (02:27:40):
I got news for you, guys. Mike Rabel's about to
be very, very good in New England. He's gonna get
all the backing he wants. He's the exact type of
coach that that young quarterback needs, and he's gonna put
together a good staff that is he's allowed to put
together because he didn't have a medalsome owner screwing everything
up and trading away his best wider and doing dumb

(02:28:00):
things like that. You're about to see the real version
of Mike Vrabel and it's gonna come. It's gonna make
people sick all over again if things go the way
he wants to, because it's gonna be New England.

Speaker 3 (02:28:09):
But I got I mean, I might be wrong on
that too.

Speaker 2 (02:28:12):
No think about it.

Speaker 4 (02:28:13):
You know, three to four seasons ago, you were walking
your way through. This is our guy, New England. This
is this is the guy we want. We can't wait
till he gets here. We just can't say it very
loud because Bill's still here. Gerrod Mayo, he's a coach
in waiting, he's one of them. He's our guy, he's
a patriot. This is gonna be great. He's got a
young quarterback and we don't expect him to win immediately.

(02:28:35):
There's no pressure. All right, here's our first year. Oh,
Mike Rabel is available.

Speaker 3 (02:28:40):
You're fired.

Speaker 4 (02:28:41):
They wanted Mike Vrabel so much, and you know what
that they made this happen.

Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
That's their prerogative as a team to do. I don't
I get it. Y'all want to talk about the Rooney
rule and all that kind of stuff. They saw the season.
Rooney rule is.

Speaker 4 (02:28:55):
Now, I would not use the word hilarious. Well, I
know what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
You know what I mean. Yes, it's it's not being
taken seriously.

Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
It's showing once again as loudly as possible, that it
either needs to go away completely and something else needs
to be done. But it's certainly I don't it's not
benefiting the coaches that it's an attempt to benefit and
it's I don't think it's benefiting the teams either. I
think it's it's not the ruining role. It's necessarily a problem.

(02:29:23):
Obviously there are other problems at play, but it's certainly
not doing anything positive. And I would not be surprised
if what was revisited or reworked this offseason.

Speaker 2 (02:29:32):
How much officiating do you think is gonna be revisited
after this latest round of Oh You're a good friend.

Speaker 4 (02:29:38):
Honorary member of the A Team Adam Schefter suggested, as
only he could man, he delivers a news item that's
probably well wanted by people, and he delivers it in
such a way that still has people mad.

Speaker 2 (02:29:52):
That's because they look like discount Jesus, and they host
shows on FS one and they're homers for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
When you're suggest testing. You've heard that the NFL will
revisit some of the rules because Christ sucks.

Speaker 2 (02:30:05):
By the way, quarterback that sucks. In case you guys
didn't know that. Anybody that watches that show and officiated also,
he's a coward, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:30:12):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:30:12):
He decided to open a tweet up for those of
you who are upset or dismayed about certain calls with
Patrick Mahomes, Well, they might be changing him this year,
singled him out as the guy the face.

Speaker 3 (02:30:26):
Those with college about Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I see that.

Speaker 4 (02:30:30):
I'll give him a word for word hat tip for
all those complaining that Pat Mahomes gets too many calls,
Relief soon could be on the way.

Speaker 3 (02:30:38):
Relief.

Speaker 2 (02:30:39):
I'll do it for this version of the A Team.

Speaker 4 (02:30:42):
Your voices that you hear on this program when they're
not going anywhere, We got you the rest of the night.
Launch Pad is next with ac MT and yours truly,
We'll take you into Rockets Celtics tonight on Sports Talk
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Speaker 1 (02:30:53):
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