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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam raised.

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Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A teams.

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Let's game best turned upside down.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Listen to that crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
It's like they just won the World Series with one
swing of the bat or something.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
He has risen tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
It's not set in stone yet, but I expect the
lineups to come out shortly, like in an hour or so,
and Yordon Alvarez to be in it for your Houston Astros.
It is a Tuesday edition of the eight Team Sports
Talk seven ninety. We will be simulcast about an hour
from now on Space City Home Network. Wex over there,
ac right here. Cole Thompson is your producer as per usual.

(01:34):
And yeah, having Yordon Alvarez back in the lineup tonight,
which I'm hoping is the case, should be a nice
boost for a team that could use it right about now,
especially since even though all they can do is worry
about themselves and what they can control. The Padres didn't
exactly help matters last night on an off night, as

(01:55):
the Mariners were able to win a slugfest and are
now just a game and a half back of Astros,
who started a three game series with one of the
worst teams in the history of baseball.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Should be good news.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
Joe spot on the station a little bit earlier would
not confirm that is what's happening, but it does seem likely.
There'd be no reason to have him go through the
rehab assignment if he wasn't playing today.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
You had the off day yesterday.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
He's taken a couple of days off in between those
four games that he played while he was with the
Corpus Christy Hooks. So they could wait another day for
absolutely positively no reason whatsoever, or they could wait another
I don't know how many days because there is a
reason that would be bad. Or He'll be in the
lineup tonight, and the expectation is for as healthy as

(02:38):
he can remain while swinging the bat at the major
league level, he'll be in the lineup as often as
possible the rest of the way, and hopefully the people
around him in the lineup will get a boost from that. Similarly,
someone provide a little protection for him and take off
during what could be a very very very helpful homestand
that they get to start likely with him.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
There'll be a couple of roster moves that will have
to be made.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Remember from a time standpoint, From a roster standpoint, the
Astros with all of their injuries. We've lamented the players
that have been hurt, but because of the unbelievable number
of injuries, players who would have otherwise likely remained Astros
in some form or fashion just simply couldn't.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
The latest one is Sean Duben.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
He was designated for assignment despite clearly having major league stuff,
not over the three games that everyone was freaking out over.
And now he's a member of the Orioles because of
course he was claimed. He's too talented of pictured not
to have been claimed if you think about what he
did for the Astros earlier this year and at times
during the other three years, and players like yard On
Alvarez and everybody before him just about constantly being transferred

(03:39):
to the sixty day IL because they had to clear
up forty man roster spots. Because they needed players on
the active roster that weren't on the forty man roster,
which is very rare to happen as many times as
it happened this season. So it isn't quite as simple
as activate Yard on from the sixty day il and
send Bryce Matthews back down the road to sugar Land

(04:00):
where he likely will be in the lineup tonight, I
would assume for the Space Cowboys as they start their
six game series with Albuquerque, but they need to clear
a forty man spot for Jordan Alvarez. So somebody most
likely with the Space Cowboys right now that is on
the forty man. Maybe it's Nick Carnandez, maybe it's Kennedy Corona,
both of whom to have obviously played for the Astros

(04:20):
this year, will have to be outrighted off the forty
man maybe to make a return. But those couple things
will have to happen. They'll get the series started with
Hunter Brown, and hopefully that is also good news. Clearly,
if they take care of their own business, and if
they take care of business when they see Seattle, they'll
win this division. In the head to the postseason, they're
a good distance back of the two teams and the

(04:41):
one in two spots not closed door to catching them,
especially Toronto, since you have a chance to catch them
and to not lose the season series, you'd have to
pass Detroit to get there. We start with that because
that's on field today. Obviously, off field today is all
about the NFL and all the players who unfortunately will

(05:01):
not continue with their teams in the current state, which
is part of their active practicing training camp roster. But
everybody's got to get down to a fifty three man
roster in the next fifty four minutes. Officially and reportedly,
the Texans have made the vast majority of their moves.
We heard about the Joe Mixon move yesterday. I haven't
seen a name yet that's been reported by Aaron John

(05:24):
and many others that covered the Texans so well, other
than maybe Miles Bryant because of how little depth I
do think they have at certain spots and the fact
that he can play both corner in safety, thought maybe
it would be here, but reportedly he is among the
long long lists thirty plus players that the Texans will
be officially no longer having on their roster because there's

(05:46):
different terminology for each in the next half hour forty
five minutes hour or so, not to mention the players
that were on the pup list, how they handle them,
how they handle the active players that were not healthy
Blake Fisher, Jalen Ree among them, and then they'll go
about changing the initial fifty through van roster before they
travel to LA to play the Rams.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
I can't wait. It's going to be the longest. This
is like trying to think of what this was like,
because I mean, in a way last year. No, I'm
talking about like on this actual calendar. It's just different
to me, Like you're out there every day at training camp.

(06:29):
It's it is a bit of a process like in
Major League Baseball. I just feel like the two are different.
I feel like because there's so many games, like relatively
soon in spring training that it's like more of a
taste of what's to come, or at least makes the
wait a little bit easier. This is the hell period
for me because I do love football.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I do, but.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I'm just not with the way they have seemingly decimated
the preseason from the standpoint of players of actual note
anticipating at all, if even a little bit, It's just
not the same as it was even like ten years ago.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Yeah, they just don't participate in the games that are televised.
They participate two days earlier in the joint practices that
aren't televised.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
And you know what, if that's if that's the way,
if that's the new way of going about things that
obviously it's probably going to lend itself to health healthier
rosters heading into games that actually matter, and in so
doing avoiding what is everybody's nightmare every single year, and
everybody who has their fantasy draft too early every year
like idiots, Oh we drafted in late August. I can't

(07:35):
believe that something happened to that, you know, like Michael
Vick breaking his leg that one year, Tom Brady, I
think it was a regular season game, was it not.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yes, the first game of the year, first game of
the year. Yeah, but I'm just quickly thinking about it.
I would imagine not too many people went too early
on Joe Mixon if they had their draft too early,
which has happened. But are there a lot of other
players that this would apply to this particular year? Have
we seen big time players with lengthy injuries that might

(08:04):
have been suffered after some fools had their draft.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I am admittedly biased, but just a year ago, all
signs pointed to christ Jim McCaffrey starting the season healthy
enough to play.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Then he didn't. Then it was dragging on.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Then it became like half the year, and I just
I know that our draft has never been too early.
It's never been too early in our in our station league.
But it was early enough that most most prognosticators, and
I'm not talking about the ones that come out in print.
I'm talking about up to the minute, we're like, yeah,

(08:39):
you should you should take You would be fine taking
him if you had the number one pick in the draft,
which I did now in hindsight, being able to look
back and say, you, how's a dumb decision.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
But nobody knew.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I think people forget nobody knew, and it was there
were a lot of I think, well, people of well repute,
if you will, good repute saying yeah, he's gonna go.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
All accounts the team was making it sound like that.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
It still happened with who knows how could happen with
Justin Jefferson, who's suffered an injury several weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
That would be the level of high profile what I mean.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
But that has nothing to do with that just has
to do with the information not coming out, not being released,
not being leaked, kept close to the vest.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Oh, we're going to get to that.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
In fact, next segment, really get to that, because one
very prominent reporter.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Is a baby.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
It's so I mean, it's so ridiculous because that's not
a charter member or honorary member of the A team.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Despite the obvious what a baby.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
We have to wait till next segment to let it.
We gotta let it breathe because it is about a
minute of him whining. But yeah, uh, this Joe Mixon situation,
I think is something to keep an eye on. Maybe
I'm being pessimistic on purpose so that I'm pleasantly surprised
when he plays more games than I think.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know he's going to this upcoming year. But I
am here to tell you right now.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I don't think after four weeks it's gonna be Hey,
Joe Mixon's back, like you're on Alvarez.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Tournay, Joe mixing games, play ten and a half? What
do you play?

Speaker 6 (10:04):
He's missing for rough number. They played Baltimore in Week five.
Their off week is Week six. Eleven or twelve games
remain after the first six weeks of season. Half past
eight weeks from now, I ten twelve games remaining.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I tend to think, under, I'll take the over. You're confident.
I'm just taking the over.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
That's a gamble because it could also come back in
game six and miss future games, right, So it's more
of a gamble than you might think.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
But I would like to I would like to get
on the bandwagon you were driving yesterday, which is that
they don't necessarily need Joe Mixon to win games.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I just find it hard to believe that.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Again, it was a very delicate conversation happening in the
moment we found out he was not going to be
available to the Texans for four weeks. They will put
him on the reserve reserve NFI list eligible or excuse me,
as of three o'clock this afternoon, cannot play for weeks.
They have games each of those four weeks, can begin

(11:03):
to practice, could become active for as early as their
fifth game, which is Week five against Baltimore. Having Joe
Mixon or not should not derail their season after four games.
Having no Joe Mixon for a seventeen game schedule is
a totally different story. Tried to explain that yesterday probably
not particularly well. This team is not in great shape.

(11:25):
I don't think until I've proven otherwise, And maybe CJ.
Stroud can help prove that with some of the comments
he made today making a little bit of a national
media tour promoting one of his new sponsors, one of
the NFL's sponsors. So did a couple of hits on
a couple of different spots and talked about his football team,
specifically the old line, specifically their running back room sands

(11:47):
Joe Mixon. See if we can read between the lines
on anything that he said, not only the actual things
that he said, but if anything else was there, obviously
want to get into that. And the other part of
looking at today outside the Texans is what could become
inside the tech Since who else out there around the
NFL could become available, It makes a lot of sense
for a team that maybe has a spot they could use.

(12:07):
Here are they only carrying three tight ends still looking
for a fourth if they don't carry rookie Luke Liche?
Are they only carrying two quarterbacks and releasing both the
drafted rookie Graham Mertz and the already reported Keaton slows.
There's a lot of different ways that the things could
go for the Texans on that front, and I don't
think they're cutting players knowing they were going to replace them.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
You just keep them and then replace them.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
But a lot of angles to take, and obviously we'll
get into a bunch of the names here over the
next forty five minutes before it becomes official, and hopefully
soon after we'll also officially tell you Jordan Alvarez is
the designated hitter tonight, and he's batting in this spot
in the order. I don't know that as of right
this very long, which I would find surprising, not alarming,

(12:49):
because he did play left field in one of the
rehab games that he had with the hooks. They are
obviously at Dyk and Park tonight with Hunter Brown on
the mound. But if you want, I mean, if you
want Jose Altuve continuing your designated hitter so you can
get yourd on in left field, by all means, go
for it. He is a better left fielder than Jose
al Toove, I would say, rather confidently. But we got
a lot to get to, so we'll take a quick

(13:10):
break here welcome you into the program via all means necessary,
whether that's the phones or via social media. We also
have a couple of guests that will bring into the
program over the course of this afternoon and looking forward
to the conversations with them. We'll have Mike Craven of
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but this one in particular, opening Big Weekend, He joins

(13:32):
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he finished up shop in Austin with his show. He
will join us then, so great afternoon to spend with
us here on the A.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Team, the A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (13:53):
If you've got the.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Game, I'm gonna know this awful.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Music right now, Let's get to the whining now. I
will admit I feel like a lot of people, and
not just national types, are in the dark about Joe
Mixon's actual condition or what led to it, or any
number of things leading up to the question that we

(14:23):
all want to know ultimately, which is when he's gonna
be back on the field for the Texans. But man,
I don't know the last time, I mean his Adam
Schefter ever really whined like this in long form about
a player's not even an injury, but just a player
transaction or something involving a player, which he's just basically saying,

(14:44):
no one will give me the info I want, and
I'm upset about it.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I take a listen for yourself.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Adam Schefter upset that no one will give him any
info on Joe Mixon's injury with the Texans.

Speaker 9 (14:55):
Nobody knows, well, there are people that know, but nobody's
saying what exactly happened. There is a question as to
when or if Joe Mixon is going to play again
this season. I can raise that question because nobody yet
has answered it. Nobody's been willing to answer it. But
there's been a lot of mystery about exactly what's wrong

(15:18):
with him. The Texans had him lined up to appear
at a football camp. The first day he didn't show up.
He obviously hurt his ankle away from football. We don't
know how or what that was. He hasn't been seen
from all summer. Nobody's willing to say anything. They've been
very very tight lipped about this and I'll say it again.

(15:39):
I think there's a question as to when and if
he will play again this season. And if somebody wants
to correct me and point out why, please let me
know why that's wrong.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
If they're all right, he's got a few points there, because.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah, we want we there it should I'll say it again.
We don't know when or if Joe Mixon will play
again this season. Right there, He's wrong again. Season hasn't
started yet. How's he gonna play again? He hasn't played
at all. There hadn't even been a season. He hasn't
been on the field at all the entire offseason. I
don't know what the again part is. He's never been
available at any point this entire season, so he's not returning.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
He hasn't been here. That's a technicality I'm willing to
give him. I think I know what.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
I think we all know what he meant, which is
that he's going to play this season. Yeah, but he
added an extra word, so both times he said it. Okay,
but you know, there are people that know but aren't
willing to say means really, there are people that aren't willing.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
To tell you this or anybody else. Yeah, and I look,
I again, I can't know anybody else to the point
that they feel confident enough or feel willing enough to
report exactly what they know, because sometimes there's a there's
a balance of what you can't what you know, and
what you find worth reporting because there's a lot at stake,
and you know, we've seen it before, even in this city,

(17:02):
with all the things that have happened.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Whether it's true off field issues.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
This I really don't think falls quite in that same
category as some other off field issues the Texans have
dealt with over the years. But you know, first write
full story, there's all sorts of little bits to it. Now,
I don't think I think what's so alarming to Schefter
is that. I mean, I've been doing this for twenty

(17:28):
five years. I started with the team, I've gone national.
I always find out because they always leak it to me,
whether it's leaked from internally on the team, whether I
have a relationship with the player, and he flat out
tells me, whether I have a good enough relationship with
the agent because he has a relationship with every.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Agency that they're capable of leaking it to me.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
A doctor, a friend of a friend of a friend, right,
he's a really really good reporter.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
That's what really really good reporters do.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
We have lots of them here in Houston too, And
every once in a while, the team, the player, the agent,
the doctors, and everybody else close to them have just
finally decided, why what are we getting out of this?
Why should we do? You think it's as simple as
that there might be a reason for it, and the
reason might be this isn't gonna make anybody look good,

(18:16):
so let's just keep it to a minimum until he
ultimately comes back and wants to address it himself or
the team ultimately addresses it publicly. Rather than have them
having them or him them, the team, him the player
have to deal with it. While nothing's really going to
change over the next four or five weeks. I don't
know that anything's going to change with our thoughts unless
we see him on the field when we go to

(18:37):
practice the few times that they will practice during the week,
and they won't practice it all in front of us
this entire week, but soon enough, over the weekend and
probably early next week, they'll get in a regular week
practice and we'll see what's on tap. But he is
absolutely one hundred percent bent and it's hilarious. I wish
it wasn't so much of we're talking about him and

(18:59):
how much of a babybe he's being versus we do
not know the answer to the question he's putting out there.
That's the real part of the commentary. Like we and
our listeners and the fans that are going to be
out there in thousands, they want to know if Joe
Mixon is in a situation where he is going to
be on the field over the next four weeks of
practice and he is headed towards a recovery by the

(19:20):
fifth game, by the seventh week, missing five games, what
the case, ever the case may be, and at this
point in time, nobody has been able to or willing
to or capable of reporting anything with any true information.
We will talk to Nick Cassario tomorrow morning. We will
talk to Tamiko Ryans later tomorrow morning, and some of
the players on the team after cutdown Day. Maybe because

(19:43):
they made the announcement yesterday, they'll be a little bit
more forthcoming tomorrow, but they can also control the messaging
and that they will be providing it just like they
did yesterday with the announcement of what their move will
be today.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Not sure.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Well, it is interesting that they would let us all
know a little about a little less than twenty four
hours in advance, that they're going to let us know
right he's been put on that list.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's just strange.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
It's definitely is and everything that goes into it's all
the things we talked about yesterday, and it's a few
of the things that Schefter mentioned there. It happened away
from the team. It's a little bit cloudy, and I've
told you what I believe is to be the case,
and that the recovery time for whatever it is that
took place during the off season, and it is an
off season issue. It's not a lingering issue from last
year other than maybe something was It was something that

(20:30):
happened this year and it's something that did not go
as timelined planned. Here's what we're going to do because
this is what happened, and maybe it was just a
rest and rehab situation. Dealing with it this way, Maybe
there was no surgery, but something that needed to happen
to get him on the keep him on the original
timeline for a recovery. I would say, still acknowledging. I'm speculating,

(20:53):
but I'm speculating with some information because of how long
it's been and because of what's changed, because of how
they've rostered their team at that pin position. The original
timeline was not what they were able to stick to.
Something took place over the many weeks and many months
from whatever the original injury was and the plan they
had for his recovery, or else they wouldn't be They

(21:14):
wouldn't be where they are today with it. He would
likely have been on the practice field at some point
during camp.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's not the way you want to start the season,
but hopefully the Texans can overcome it, however long it takes.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Right now, it's four games minimum. We'll see after that, yeah,
four games minimum.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Will see after that, we'll see what the rest of
the roster looks like, if that's a position they actually attack.
After today's cut down day to get to the initial
fifty three, the players we see on the fifty three
men roster in an hour will not be the fifty
three that head to Los Angeles to see which of
them are active for game day in Week one. It
always changes for every single team. It will be no
different for this team. His spot on it is the

(21:52):
only one we know with absolute certainty he won't be
on it. Halfway through our number one, continue to welcome
you into the show by all means necessary, and slide
into our segment.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Halfway through our number one at two thirty. That is next.
It's best of.

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Speaker 2 (22:14):
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Speaker 10 (22:15):
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Speaker 5 (22:51):
Well, since we're going to talk about X, I mean
this qualifies for any of the social media platforms. But
I will pass along that. Jonathan Alexander just said, with
thirty minutes left, and now it's almost twenty six minutes left,
I think the Texans are down to five or six players.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Could you rattle off those five or six names if
you had to?

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Well, the decision I don't think is reported whether they're
carrying two or three quarterbacks. It's been reported that Keaton
Slovas has been released. It has not been reported that
Graham merse Mertz has been released because I don't think
that is what they're planning to do. I think they're
unfortunately going to carry all three quarterbacks, but that's one spot.
Luke Lache would be another. If they carry a fourth
tight end. The decision officially on Irv Smith and Harrison

(23:35):
Bryant as the third tight end, I'm not sure you
know from a number standpoint, if that's two more players
they have to decide on or one, because I think
Irv Smith is going to be released but with an
injury designation or be put on IR so he isn't
technically released, and that would put Harrison Bryant likely on
the team because I doubt Luke Lache is carried as
their third tight end. Even though again this is just initial.

(23:58):
They're not playing the Rams tomorrow or in two days,
roster changes can still be made. If there's a question
mark about Blake Fisher's health as the last of the
nine offensive linemen that would be kept, that would be
something they could consider. If there's any truth to the
possibility that Cam Robinson is actually a possibility to be
traded before the team's put together their official initial fifty

(24:21):
three man rosters, and then that is something to consider,
although I would find that extremely unlikely for the Texans
to go that route, not only for the money that
he makes and the team that would then have to
absorb it unless the Texans worked out something else financially,
but in that if Blake Fisher's not one hundred percent
and you're starting a rookie at left tackle and you've
moved Titus Howard back to right tackle, well.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Who's coming in when something goes wrong?

Speaker 6 (24:43):
You're leaving yourself incredibly vulnerable if you do that, So
I doubt, very seriously that would be the move. And
then on the other side of the ball is I
would assume they're carrying five edge rushers. Obviously the top
two Hunter and Will Anderson Junior. It would be Dylan
Horton at the back end of the line, behind Daryl
Taylor and behind Derek Barnette. But I do believe a

(25:05):
Horton will make the team and will be that fifth lineman.
A sixth linebacker would probably be in question. Jamal Hill
probably is number six if Jake Hansen is number five,
with EJ. Speed, Christian Harris, Henry Toatoa, and Al Shaer
as the four that definitely are ahead of them and
have made the team. And kind of mentioned it earlier

(25:26):
with them releasing the number of players in the secondary
that have already been reported, I don't think there's much
left for them to do there, so I wouldn't think
it's that position. And also I think we should assume
that CJ. Gardner Johnson, this is a speculative assumption, is
just they're not.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Going to do anything with him.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
He's he's going to be on the active roster and
hopes that he will be capable of playing sometime over
the first probably three weeks of the season, probably two,
because otherwise you would just put him on IR and
have him come back when you designate him to come back,
rather than carrying a player multiple weeks if you find
it unnecessary because he's just not quite ready to play.
Jalen reed this other safety, it appears they'll go the

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opposite with him. Maybe he's ready in the next two
or three weeks, but rather than do it that way
with a rookie who's barely been on the field because
of when he got hurt during camp. They'll put him
in a position to rest and rehab and not be
on the fifty three and.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
The other part of social media today, just because I
know there are those of you out there that like
to plan trips well in advance, and you can do
that sort of thing when the baseball team that you
root for releases its schedule in the middle of the
preceding year, which is what the Astros and every other
major League baseball team do every single season. So if
you're wondering when the Astros twenty twenty six campaign will

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start and who it'll start against, you don't have to
wait any longer.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
It's the Angels in town for four Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
My quick thoughts on the schedule, and I haven't scoured
it and really read over how it was presented, but
opening the season at home is great, and it's a
four game series with the Angels, three games series with
the Red Sox. No days off, no random Friday off
in between a Thursday. They just play seven straight games
and then they get their day off and they have
three Thursdays off during the opening month of the season.

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But the one that they don't obviously means they're gonna
play a long stretch of games without it. They immediately
go into a ten game road trip after that opening
homestand that begins in the division with the A's, who
aren't going to be terrible next year, and ends in
the division with the Mariners, who will still be trying
to not finish second when twenty twenty six begins, which
is where they'll finish this year.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
And it's noticeable that each of the first two series
of the season against the Mariners are four game series. Right,
they have four games in Seattle that opening road trip
to end it, and then the following month in May
four game homestand begins our seven game homestand begins with
four against the Mariners, ends with three against Texas. I

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sent out a post kind of separating, you know, obviously,
you play thirteen games of the division. Half the teams
are seven at home, the other half is seven on
the road. They finished the season on the road with
a four game series at Oakland preceded by a two
game series at Seattle. And if I were guessing, I
think major League Baseball is doing the same and correctly.

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The best three teams the American League West next year
are going to be the Astros, the Mariners, and the A's,
And from a Houston perspective, those three teams will see
each other. The Astros will see those two teams right
out of the gate essentially and right there at the
end of the season for a very specific reason because
of competitive top of the Ale West expectations.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
And if what you just said does come to pass
and the fourth place or worse Rangers are helping bring
up the rear in the division. Well, you're gonna be
done with them in July, which is I can't remember
the last time that they were.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Almost where they play them again, They play them at
the last of July, dips into August.

Speaker 13 (28:55):
It's nically the first two days of August finish off
that series.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
You're correct, Yeah, Texas and a and Anaheim's team in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
You will be done with them by mid August. That's
crazy the belief.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Normally when schedules are created, if it's a possible, you'd
like to create drama at the end of the season,
and if those teams can play each other, that's drama.
I mean, everybody's playing one sixty two presumably, and playing
against the Angels and Rangers. I think in Major League
Baseball's mind is not gonna have the best teams. They
can play each other, but they don't need to be
playing the best teams as often. And I mean, that's

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my guess. That's why I think they laid it out.
You know, the schedule itself, there's only so much that
you can really draw out of it. It's baseball, or
they're long stretches of games without days off. I did
think one other part of the schedule was a little
bit odd, and it comes early in the year. In May,
the Astros wrap up a road trip through Baltimore and
Boston spanning the end of April and into May. So

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they fly back from Boston on May third, fly home
to Houston to play the Dodgers for three games Moye Wednesday,
get an off day before flying to Cincinnati, which for
a one city road trip. Then they fly back to
Houston again to play at home. Then they're right back.
Like these one city, one stop road or home stands

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are rare and odd and seemingly unnecessary.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Well, in the two road trips, so you're talking about
fall into Houston.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, the three trip, the three games in Cincinnati, and
then they come home, and then they're gonna go right
back up to Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
After that, which is relatively nearby.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Well, you're going from Boston to Houston to Cincinnati to Houston.
At least you're there for a week and then back
up to Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
And speaking of Boston, you're done with them when May,
the first week of May is done.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I hope the Rockies are as bad at the beginning
of the season next year as they are currently, because
you're done with the Rockies after you've played twenty games.
Six of your first twenty games are against the Rockies.
Maybe that helps you get off to a good start
if they're awful, but you also don't get to see
them later in the year. The Astros are playing the
Rockies starting tonight. The Mariners still have a series the

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Rockies remaining among their thirty plus games to go, so
it will be a little bit different next year.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, and that is assuming that Alex Bregman reups with
the Red Sox. You'll see him basically the first full
week of the season and then you won't see me
again until the postseason in person. And if you guys
play each other you guys being his old team and
his new team again.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
If he reups with the Red Sox, that's best of X.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
We will come back. We will get to the topic
of the day.

Speaker 13 (31:33):
I promise you'll love it.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
The a on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
So today is schedule release day. Unannounced schedule release day. Yeah,
unlike the NFL.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Permission to read aloud from one of the Major League
Baseball clubs. Sure, the Cleveland Guardians, at about twelve sixteen
PM tweeted the following with their schedule. Of course, thanks
a lot, Taylor Swift. Now no one cares that next
year's schedule is out hashtag guards Ball hashtag.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
We posted something on social media with Taylor Swift name
in it. We smart, Well it wasn't a hashtag though,
but our name's there.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Only Major League Baseball could get upstaged by an engagement.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
Well, so that happened early enough in the morning. Maybe
there could have been a conversation inside the MLB offices
to consider, Okay, maybe we shouldn't do this because they
don't treat it as a big deal. They never have,
so I don't think they would then reconsider it's already
not being treated as a big deal. I didn't know
the schedule was coming out today. The people that handle
scheduling for the all the outlets television, radio on it,

(32:59):
I don't think they had a big hand. Oh we
better be ready for the schedule. They don't make a
big deal out of it. There obviously was no TV
show about it. Each of the other two major sports
leagues that we talk about most of the time, they
do that. They treat it as such. There's twice as
many games. There's a whole lot less thunder that comes
along with the announcement. Announcement, so I totally understand it.
So they shouldn't feel like they were upstaged because they

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were never on the stage to begin with.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
And you're gonna play one hundred and sixty two games
next year, and here they are. It's not a big deal.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
At Blooper, Braves says timed schedule release with Taylor's engagement masterclass.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
If you have an opportunity to pounce and make something
of it, by all means, they almost every team I
would think would do want to do something and maybe
they didn't have it planned and then they.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Maybe pitted it to do that.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
I would you will appreciate this one, especially at Joey
Mullinaro says, the MLB schedule drop happening the exact same
time as Taylor swift engagement announcement is some truly astounding
levels of curb your enthusiasm.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Can't make it up, and the announcement was like a
lot of people who have followings on social media will
announce something of major significance. Those pictures posted on their
respective Instagram accounts of the pictures of them getting engaged.
It wasn't I've learned that, or the Chiefs released this,
or tailor's release that kill a trav right there on

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Instagram pictures of the engagement, the hugs, the smiles, and
the ring.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Do you think they'll televise the wedding?

Speaker 6 (34:28):
I think that would be highly unlikely. Why people would
watch rank the televised weddings that you can remember.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Are we talking soap opera or real real? Obviously we're
talking real.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
I'm pretty sure a ton of weddings have been on
television programs and movies.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, but we're.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Talking about real celebrity with celebrities, sports with celebrity, celebrity
with sports. So kick Diana out and now tell me
which of the are your most favorite televised weddings of
real people getting really married. But I can't kick Diana out. Okay,
then you can put her at number one. I don't
who's two. Well, this might surpass it in numbers. I mean,

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I'm not saying it won't be. I'm just saying none
of them previously have been. Beyonce and jay Z got
married non televised. I believe Michael Jackson married Lisa Marie
Presley that was not televised. I'm trying to think of
the biggest, most magnificent stars out there. Jessica Biel made
one of the guys and in Sync that was not televised.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
One of the guys in in Sync.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
That's probably more impressive than when you tell people that
we're talking about somebody's husband.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Or Frederick Prince married Sarah Michelle that wasn't televised.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Freddie Prinz Junior. Yes, they're still married, by the way, Bruce,
And to me, they're Demi and Ashton, Ashton and Mila.
I mean, they've all gotten married. None of them have
been televised, and none of them. Beyonce is probably as
close as anybody could get or at the same level
star level. Yes, this duo, so I will acknowledge it's

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a little bit different than all of them, but fully acknowledged.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
They don't nobody's weddings televised. It could change, but we
don't televise weddings. They don't ask them to be televised.
Someone might ask, Heck, the NFL might ask.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
Will the songs she writes about the divorce be her
best selling album.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Song In the she writes about this like it's she
pokes fun at herself, knowing full well, almost all of
my material that's made me all of this money and
all of this popularity I owe to the people that
helped me have a bad relationship, to me have a
bad relation She's in it too, so it's not always

(36:40):
the other person's fault. It could easily be hers, which
she'd probably acknowledged too. But they're not writing songs about
their bad relationships. My songs about their no longer active
relationship with them. Maybe I shouldn't call them bad, I'll
just call them inactive. Inactive, they're no longer active relationships now,
they're like they're like.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Inn of them.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
There is some interesting news to pass along from the NFL.
Though it's not Taylor related, it's Jimmy related. The NFL
is placing Jimmy Ward on the Commissioner's exempt list. How
long they usually don't say. It's probably not determined as
of this time. But he doesn't practice. He doesn't obviously
attend their games either, So this is why the Texans

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had little to say and did not do anything with
him roster wise. He spent the entire training camp, off
season portion of their roster needs on the pup list,
which is where he remained until they knew the Commissioner.
Probably felt comfortable that the belief was the Commissioner would
place him or he would be placed on the Commissioner's
exempt list. So from a roster standpoint, they don't need

(37:45):
to do anything now with him. And whether this is
tied to a court date which comes up at the
end of the month or potential future dates, because there's
two different cases we're talking about criminal and civil. We
talked about the civil case that someone levied against him,

(38:05):
brought charges civilly against him, with Tony Busby as the
attorney and seeking twenty million dollars in damages. So I
don't know the timeline on where the NFL feels like
this will end. But I don't think the Texans quite honestly,
were headed towards the season counting on using Jimmy Ward,
whether it would have ultimately been their own decision later on,

(38:27):
or knowing that the league would step in so they
wouldn't have to, and that's what happened. I think they
are also from a football standpoint, not needing Jimmy Ward.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
That's probably how they feel.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
So the commissioner's list is not a set number of games, correct, right,
it's whenever he feels like you've done the time in his.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Opinion, it's a lot of well, not necessarily, it's whenever
they get the legal system to help them with the timeline,
When the legal system tells you what's happened, when they've
gone through the process, when he's had a hearing, when
they know what the result is, when ars have been dropped,
when a case has been dismissed, when a case has
gone Then that's their answer to probably happened here, potentially

(39:08):
could happen.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yes, absolutely, I feel like that is always the best
case scenario for all parties, because going to court drags
all of the other dirty laundry we don't even know
about out into the public eye, and we know, like
him or not, that is one of Tony Busby's mos
He will share what he can.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Let's put it that way, so as to.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
I mean all this stuff you it's eight page filing
and I gave you a lot of the details on it.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
They're all there.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
There probably is more, and there's obviously a completely the
omitted partion of the case is as we told you,
what's the other side of the story, right, Everything that's
in this filing could be I mean, I hope it's not.
You don't normally believe in a client to the point
where you're putting a case together and it's all lies,
So I wouldn't think they are. But we don't know
the other side of the story, at least in the
civil case.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
That we've read.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Should be very, very interesting to see how this aspect
of the Texans roster unfolds throughout the course of this
upcoming season. You already had the Joe Mixon situation, You've
had this, and this is I'm trying to figure out
which one of these things happened first. The away from
football injury, which by the way, does Adam Scheffer know
that for a fact. What if he did did he

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it's been reported so it was not a football activity
regardless of work.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
He was not at the facility. Okay, so he could
have been.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
I don't believe he was, but I don't know what
it was, so I can't say for certain.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
But these two because remember the Jimmy Ward first arrest
happened a little bit earlier this summer.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
I mean yeah, did it happened in April and Charger
were brought later this year. The second incident where the
alcohol was involved, which was the violation of the bond
he was under.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
So there's been a couple of different things.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
But like I said before, if all of these charges
completely totally go away and he comes off the Commissioner's
exemplest and he's healthy, I'm still not sure he's playing
for the Texans.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
There's a lot there.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
There's also a lot to get to in the three
o'clock hour, including the simulcast. We will get to everything
that we have talked about and a number of things
we have not. Joe a Spot had visited the station
earlier today. He's the only guy that absolutely knows for sure.
If your don Alvarez is going to be in tonight's lineup, unless,
of course, they've released the lineup in the last few

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seconds and I don't know about it all right, Well,
we'll find out soon enough, likely during this three o'clock hour,
which was usually what happens when the Astros play a
regularly scheduled home date, which they will be doing tonight
as they open up that three game series against the
Colorado Rockies. All that and a whole lot more on
a Tuesday edition of the program.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety two. Lifelong
Houston sports guys named at him Talking Your Team's Adam
Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Welcome in to a Tuesday edition of the program, Hour
number two on Sports Talk seven to ninety Hour number
one on Space City Home.

Speaker 14 (42:13):
Miss Yeah is.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
I wore this shirt today because I knew this would happen.
But if he hadn't played tonight, I'd look really stupid.
Right now, insert joke right here. Yeah, jord On Alvarez
is officially back. I knew that was gonna happen. During
the break, they dropped the lineups while we were on
the air.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
Heanga Correa al tuve yord On Alvarez, your left fielder.
Tonight for the Houston Astros is to take on the
Colorado Rockies and open up a ten game homestand Christian Walker,
Hey Sus Sanchez, Victor Carratini catching Hunter Brown Tonight murraycy
dubon AT's second and Jacob Melton in left field.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Is that the first time this year that that's happened.
I think it's the second time.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
I think in each of his first two starts, I'll
double check, I think he was caught once each and
then every subsequent start has been a yiner start facing
a right handed pitcher. The Astros will have left handed
hitting yord On Alvarez, left handed hitting Hey Sue Sanchez,
left handed hitting Victor Kartini, and left handed hitting Jacob
Melton in Tonight's lineup. I believe that is the first

(43:18):
time all season they have had four left handed bats
in the lineup. And put a lineup together a couple
of days ago, guessing what it might or yesterday, I guess,
wondering what this first game would look like, and I
had yord On Alvarez batting fourth, and it was met
with a lot of resistance no, he's got a bat
in the first inning.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
You gotta have him up there.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
You want your best hitters up as often as possible.
And we talked about it yesterday and I totally agree,
but just maybe not for this first game back. I
don't think he's going to be permanently the Astros cleanup hitter.
I don't think he'll be their clean up hitter even
half the time the rest of the way. Maybe a
very small percentage of the time, maybe one of the
thirty games he plays the rest of this season. But

(43:55):
tonight he will bat clean up and Jose al Tuve
will be their designated hitter when he runs onto the
field to not field any baseballs in the top of
the first inning behind Hunter Brown. It'll be one hundred
games missed while on the injured list since May third.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Yeah, I just saw Chandler Rome tweet his story and
that's the caption. If you will one hundred games without
yord On Alvarez and you are barely sitting in first
place after that.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Well, you were thirteen games over twelve games, over five
hundred without.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yord On Alvarez.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Don't even need him, don't even need him. Look, I
hesitate because he's been out that long. But this is
the one guy, and I've said this this whole time,
this is the one guy where it just would not
surprise any of us, not just me. It's not a
surprise any of us. If he steps in tonight and
just crushes. He will definitely not go hit list tonight.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
He will definitely homer once against the Rockies, and he
will hit a minimum of two home runs on this
Homestand wow, is the Texans making a trade on their
offensive line, which we discussed up as a possibility earlier
worthy of breaking news.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Geez, look at them all trying to overshadow Taylor Swift's
engagement to Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
The Texans are trading and offensive tackle to try to
help protect Justin Herbert. And it's somebody who wasn't even
going to make the roster. Austin Deculus is headed to
the Chargers for a conditional seventh Deculus was drafted by
the Texans several years ago, has been released and resigned
by the Texans on multiple occasions, and was running while
Cam Robinson was out with the second team tackle unit

(45:37):
on the left side, and he will now head to
the Chargers. So maybe that's a good thing for the player. Obviously,
a team that wants you, trades for you, and helps
you with your own roster situation. Texan's still unknown exactly
what they will do with the tackles. Cam Robinson, Blake Fisher,
Titus Howard, tay Ersery may in fact all make this team,
and I think that's pretty likely. Aaron Wilson also noting it,

(46:00):
it appears that the halfback, h back, full back slash
tight end spot will be British Brooks for the second
season in a row, somewhat of a surprise. And I
mentioned this and something I posted the other day the
way that they used Brooks versus the way that they
were using Yakub Johnson, who was brought here for this

(46:21):
specific role and had some history with some of the
people in this organization. Most people thought, well, because of that,
he's got the upper handed. Maybe he did, but I
think they value British Brooks for what he can do
on special teams. I think they actually might value British
Brooks for what he might be able to provide if
active in short yardage, and reportedly he will make their

(46:41):
initial fifty three man roster, which likely means Johnson well
obviously not well.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Hopefully this means that Justin Herbert is behind C. J.
Stroud next off season's power rates.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Very possible that Austin deculus Justin Herbert for exactly zero
snaps in both of their respective them lives. He will
be on the Chargers as of this trade going through officially,
but I don't know that he'll find his way to
the field. Remember, the Chargers were one of the teams
it's not fantasy football related, but they lost a player
for the season, Sean Slater with the knee injury during camp.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Lost for the season.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
This is a tackle, obviously for depth purposes for a
team that fancies themselves correctly as a playoff team.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I believe.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
I'm not sure where all the changes will be, and
we've got another ten days before the season starts to
really dive headfirst into it. But the four teams that
won their divisions last year in the AFC heavy favorites
to win their divisions again this year. As long as
you're not talking to Mike Tannenbaum and the three teams
that were the wild card teams, well Denver and the Chargers.

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I think most people believe Denver's on their way up,
so we'll have them back in the playoffs unless this
offensive line issue derails the Chargers. They're very similar to
who they were a year ago, so we'll keep them there.
That leaves one spot, and last year it was Russell
Wilson's Steelers taking that spot, just barely hanging on at
the end of the season. Aaron Rodgers Steelers could have it,

(48:10):
Joe Burrows Bengals could have it. Some think Drake Mays
and Mike Rabel's Patriots.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
So that's I mean.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
I imagine there'll be other storylines and hiccups and roller coaster
rides for the six teams that I think are almost
chewings to make it again because it just doesn't usually
work out that way.

Speaker 13 (48:31):
I still can't go over the fact that Jordan's playing
left field tonight.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
It's been a while, but it is happening. The roster
moves for the Astros to make this happen. He's reinstated
from the sixty day il aj Bluebaw has been recalled
from Triple A, and you're wondering, well, how's that possible. Well,
that's because left hander John Rooney has left elbow inflammation

(48:54):
after making an appearance over the weekend this series against Baltimore,
and he is now on the fifteen il UH. The
position player off of the twenty six man roster is
Bryce Matthews.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
As expected, he goes down to triple A.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
Sean Dubin mentioned this earlier, unrelated he is was DFA
a couple of days ago. He is now an oriole
claimed off of waivers and Brendan Rodgers returned from his
rehab assignment.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
After a couple of times there.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
You did say that Bryce Matthews was the guy option
like you predicted, correct, all right, just making sure we
cover all that, all right, So yeah, jord On Alvarez
back in the lineup tonight. Astro's playing a bad team.
And now you really got to take advantage because the
Padres didn't cooperate last night, a slugfest nine to six final.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
I mean, they added the game pretty much well in
hand throughout. A couple of late runs made it a
little tighter.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Well, it looked like the Padres did. After two innings, oh,
most of two innings.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
After eight at bats remained for the for the Mayor Nerds,
it was four to one. You couldn't hold onto that lead.
Astros are up five the other day.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
I'm very aware of why that happened and how it
happened and everything else, But.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Yeah, Padres had a four spot in the second inning
after the Mariners scored in the opening inning, but as
soon as two innings were up it was still a
one run game. The Mariners had already brought it back
to within one and then scored six more times before
the fifth inning and won at nine to six.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
It's annoying because they're not going to win the division,
but they're just gonna make it look interesting all the
way down the stretch.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Yeah, you guys, tell us what is the word not annoying?
How about drama filled? I mean this, you could coast
to the division title, and the Asters have done that
many times during this Golden era. Or you could put
down the Mariners in the final week of the season,
final day of the season.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
That's also happened.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
This is probably, I think, without question, the best Mariners
team they've had during this entire stretch, even their playoff team,
even their team that won a playoff series, this team,
to me, is significantly better. They did get a little
bit healthier over the last two weeks with Bryce Miller's return.
He was on the mound last night, but he's also
the pitcher that gave up those four in the second inning.

(51:01):
They got a great start from Logan Gilbert the other day.
They've gotten a little bit more from Suarez, but seriously
underperforming for his time there. Cal Raley's now at fifty
homers and I think has a really true shot to
win the MVP in the American League this year over
Aaron Judge. I don't think anybody else would draw first
place votes, but we'll see. And Josh Naylor just continue.

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I mean, there's an article written then I didn't even
send it to you.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
You would have.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Absolutely loved it. By aunt the Athletic, you would have.
I didn't read it, but I think you would have
loved it just simply for what it was titled, and
it was about Josh Naylor. So I'll let you tell
me if you wrote an article about Josh Naylor, would
what would you write about? And what would it be called?

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What would the what would the headline grapp or be
the caption for your post?

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Disenfranchised fan base places hopes in fat first basement acquired
at the deadline.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
So close.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
He's big he's slow and now he's making stolen based history.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
What happened? Who wrote it? Somebody at the athletic.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
I know that it wasn't It was the very popular
and never heard on the A team before Chad Jennings.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
That's actually true. What a dame someone who writes about
baseball athletics.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Yeah, I don't want I don't want it to come
down to that final week.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I don't think it will.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
I think what here's what I think, with them playing
the Marriagans coming.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Down to the final week that I'll guarantee it.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Well, let's say this. If it does, I don't think
it will. But if it does, I'm glad that it's
happening then. Not from a hitting standpoint, but this whole.
What's going on with fromber this whole? What version of
rag Getty do we have right now? This whole? Is
Christian Haaveyer going to round into form? Those questions one
way or the other will have answered themselves by the

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time that series rolls around around. There's enough time, there's
enough starts for some of these guys pitching.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Yes, but maybe we're quibbling, as we tend to do
here on the show. The final week of the season
is six games against other teams.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
The week before that. At the end of the year,
I mean the last handful of games.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Their last six.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Games are at home against Colorado and the Dodgers. They're
gonna be in very good shape.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Well, they're playing the Padres right now and so far
not so good. You have to do your job, San Diego.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
You have to either have the tiebreaker or a seven
game lead for those games not to matter.

Speaker 15 (53:31):
I hate the Mariners the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
It is the a team Sports Tax seven ninety Space
City Home Network. We ac Cole Thompson with you on
a Tuesday edition of the program. Jordon is back.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Hey, how do you think the Astros season is going?

Speaker 6 (54:01):
If I told you this, it's August twenty sixth, twenty
twenty five, Carlos Correa is in the Astros lineup. How
would you think the season is going if I told
you that about six months ago?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
You know what, when you ask it like that six
months ago, I'd be like, why do they have to
go get a new shortstop?

Speaker 6 (54:20):
How would you feel if I told you this about
six months ago about how the Astros season is going?
In the Astros lineup today on August twenty six, twenty
twenty five, yard On Alvarez will be batting forth and
among the players in the lineup, he has out homer,
Jacob Melton and nobody else.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Well, it wouldn't be going very good because he's missed
one hundred games or so.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
Maybe maybe they just have a home run hitting type
of team. No, maybe Victor Parattini has nineteen homers. Maybe
Christian Walker has twenty eight homers. Maybe paying your Correa
in Altuve have combined for seventy nine homers.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
It's August twenty six, right, and he has how many?

Speaker 12 (54:53):
Right?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
He has three homers?

Speaker 5 (54:54):
How many does he hit if he stays healthy, if
he plays the majority of the games, what's a realistic
number for October?

Speaker 6 (55:01):
We talked about that with Korea when he came to
Houston with seven and I thought three. He shiit three,
so I said, he'll double it. That means he's got
four more to go. I think Jordan's in a very
good position to double his three. But I would say,
probably right in that same neighborhood, a month in change
of baseball left, he'll probably be, if healthy, capable of
playing in nearly every game, because we're at the point

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in time where the days off the regulars are getting
are the days off the team is getting. They're not
getting the additional days off if they can avoid it.
I think i'd probably set the over under a five
and a half because I have to at least account
for the possibility that he's not awesome.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
But I would take the over now.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
I know that the numbers we were getting in his
rehab starts looked great because they were.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
I mean, you could see him smashing the balls both
ways he hit. I think three of his doubles were
down into right field, off the wall, and the other
one was an opposite field double.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
The last of his double off the wall in left field.
What are the exit velocities? I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
It doesn't mean it's going to happen against major league
pitching right away. Yeah, the good news is they're not
facing that tonight.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
There are very few major league caliber pitchers on the
Colorado Rockies, And if you really spent the time and
I'm not asking you to to check out what they've
done at Colorado and what they've done in regular ballparks,
they're still not that much better. They're throwing pitchers on
a regular basis in the first inning, the fifth inning,
the ninth inning that most other teams would not even roster,
let alone be using. And that's why they are where

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they are. They are in search of their fortieth win
of the season, and unless they sweep the Astros, they're
going to leave Town without it because there's still three
shy of forty wins on the season.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Absolutely not a good team.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Every day they play, they usually make it easy on
their opponents to beat them, whether it's with meatball pitches,
or mistakes made in the field, or base running mistakes,
or just a lack of being able to hit when
they're not in their home ballpark. Remember, they come to
town off of a series against Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh where
they scored once.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
They played three games. They scored one time in those
three games. The Angels and the Yankees close.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Out this series of three teams visiting during a ten
game homestand as you try to maintain your position, at
the very very least maintain your position of hosting a
wildcard series while leaving the door open slightly to the
possibility you could catch one of the two teams you're
chasing after this homestand your best bet on catching Toronto,
because I think Detroit is a lost cause because you've

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lost the season series. But Toronto in Houston get together
for one final series. You already have a three games
to none advantage if you sweep them a second time,
obviously you have the tiebreaker. And now you're just talking
about a game or two difference in the standings potentially
between you and not having to play in the Wildcard series.

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I wish it wasn't smack dab in the middle of
a nine game road trip. Interesting travel. They will go
from their home game against the Yankees. The next day
they'll play in Arlington, and I think they can make
that work. They'll have an off day between their trip
from Arlington to Toronto, and then they will not have an
off day from their trip from Toronto to Atlanta to

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close out the series nine game road trip, their second
last road trip of the season.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Interesting realignment needs to happen soon. Well.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
The teams like Texas and Houston probably are the loudest
ones because of their constant West Coast trips and the
teams on the West Coast, there's only so much you
can do what could you know? If you can get
all those teams together, the eight of them in two
four team divisions, that would be something I think a
lot of people would be interested in, And I'm not.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
I wouldn't be suit to suit too psyched about seeing
four four team divisions per league. Why because what's your
playoff format?

Speaker 16 (58:49):
Now?

Speaker 6 (58:49):
It's NFL Like, right, You're gonna win the division and
that automatically.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Qualifies you for the playoffs, right, mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
So you're gonna have years where the Seahawks go eight
and nine and make the playoffs. Yeah, Now you're gonna
have a year where the Diamondbacks goes seventy eight and
eighty four and they're gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
But if you're realigned and that puts different teams in
your division than were before, which would absolutely especially in
the Astros case, no question. I think I saw you know,
Ben Verlander, who's the front of the show, obviously had
one scenario where it's Astro, it's a four team like
you mentioned, Astros, Rangers, Kansas City, all of which makes sense,

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and then you threw Minnesota in.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
There for a South labeled division.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Yeah, I've seen in Chicago with each other, which left
Kansas City, Minnesota, and Saint Louis as possibilities to join
with the Texas teams. You know, do they want Saint
Louis with the Chicago teams for their rivalry? Is it
okay to put Saint Louis and Kansas City together to
make that a rivalry and then bring them to Houston
and Texas both of I could see either of those

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scenarios making sense. But the division the Astros and Rangers
would want, it's the best they can do is just
two other teams in the Central time zone, which is
that would satisfy that there can only get so many
teams that are truthfully close to them. But the other
teams in the Southeast are probably going to be packed together,
which leaves the Astros with teams in the Midwest rather

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than in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
And you go ahead. You also have to realize expansion
is going to be another factory. Yes, two Southeast teams
almost assured.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Do you think they'll actually because everybody's talking about this,
Phil Charlotte, Yeah, And what likes the wildcard? What if
Nashville's in that division with the Astros instead, that would
still make sense.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
It would make sense it's just a matter of if
you've brought two Southeast teams, if Nashville and Charlotte are them,
now you just got to make sure all of those
I made the numbers work with the other Southeast teams,
that I get the twelve I need or Eastern teams.
I should say, are there twelve there for three divisions?
Are there actually ten? And I got to finagle that
a little bit. But well, look, the difference is you're
not trying to put a team in the central time

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zone like Texas and Arlington into a division with teams
in the extreme western part of America, the West Coast.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
You also need to and you know what, if you're
Rob Manfred, this might actually be your saving and it's
time of your saving grace. Because don't get me wrong,
he's just bungled his entire tenure in fifty different ways.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
He sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
But let's just say you were to put both New
York teams and the Red Sox and the Phillies in
a division together. I don't know what you do with Toronto.
You can just annex them. They don't need them anyways.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Play just put another team in Canada. That's terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
Have them played each other and not give them an
automatic bid to the postseason. Remember that series I was
talking about taking them from Houston to Arlington, then to Toronto,
then to Atlanta. When they play the Rangers, guess who
they're not gonna have to face?

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Native Aldi done, done for the year, Rotator cuff strain
likely done for the year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Feel bad for that. Well, I don't know if they'll
be able to hold off Zack Wheeler. By the way,
that's huge.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
It's huge for what could be the last series of
the season for the Astros and the World Series. But yeah,
an ace was lost for the season and a very
Bennett Sussa knocked him out for an entire season. The
injury that now Zach Wheeler is suffering from. He's the
ace of the staff, definitely one of the three best
pitchers in the National League for multiple seasons, has pitched,

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has all that experience of pitching deep into the postseason
and the World Series. And Philadelphia, who's still probably a
team that could get there. Well, their ace is out.
Noah has been hurt for much of the year, but
obviously his back or for some of the year in
his back. That's a huge, huge loss for a World
Series caliber baseball team.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
But Nate u Valdi, as you know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Well, he's plays for a third place team that's under
five hundred. I mean, it sucks for him by all accounts.
A really nice guy, he's from here. I just hate
that he plays for the Rangers. I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
But you definitely didn't hate him when he pitched for
the Red Sox against the Astros in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Obviously more right hated him more then Joe Kelly. There's
lots of guys I've hated multiple places.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
Was going to say this when we were talking about
the schedule, and now's even more of a reason to
say it now. One of the reasons why I think
it's going to be widely expected that the Rangers finished
fourth or fifth and twenty twenty six is because their
season of great pitching is this year. It's not going
to be duplicated to this extent next year. He will

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have missed too much time now for sure to be
considered for the Cy Young Award. He had a cy
Young Award caliber season. Talking about Evaldi, de gram turned
in twenty plus starts with an ERA well under three.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
All through their starting rotation.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
Their pitching has been exceptional best in the league pitching,
and they're not even gonna win half their games.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Billfield couldn't do anything about it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
Well, Simon is also now probably out for the rest
of the year. Maybe makes a return for no reason
in the final week.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
The Astuals play them again. They do, don't they go
up to Arlington. We just talked about it. No, that's right,
I'm thinking on the road trip. I've got next season's
schedule on the brain. I'm actually texting my wife, Hey,
there's finally a weekend series in case we should probably
go up there and you know, see the end laws.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
There are things much more present, like listening to what
the Astros manager had to say with his visit earlier
today on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
We will do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Next the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
It is the a team Sports Talk seven ninety Space
City Home Network. We should probably preface this Joe a
spot of interview by saying that, well, it happened before
we had the news that was official about Jordan Alvarez.
I wonder if you led anybody to believe it's definitely
happening and happening at any point during this conversation he didn't.

(01:04:55):
You just you can't just play along ever, can you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
You might want to listen in to see if a
couple of hours ago maybe hinted at what might be
in store for tonight's lineup. But otherwise, whatever we have
from Joe spotted from earlier today here it is.

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
Yeah, you know, so the DH spot will help us
with that. Both can play left that both will DH
you know, Hoseek and also play second base, so that
that will be a way to keep everyone in the
lineup and healthy. Also, you know, your don we have
to see how he feels volume wise, how we get

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him going. You know, he has him play in almost
three and a halfst four months, so we have to
see how he feels as he you know, gets back
to the every day you know line up and playing
every day. We have, you know, a stretch of thirteen games,
so we have to be smart on the volume, not
only with him, but the rest of the guys.

Speaker 17 (01:05:51):
Talk a little bit if you can about We've had
some folks ask about Jake Myers. I know that Dana
brought him up a little bit on Sunday. What do
you know about him at this point and where is
he and his recovery path.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
So the plan is for him to start tomorrow in
sugar Land, so that will be that will be great
to also get him going and getting get him ready
to get back here to us and help away some games.
But he's also gotten to a point where he's recovering
very well. He's pushing off that leg, doing all the
drills that we we need him to uh get done

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and check some boxes that we need to see from him.
And right now he's in it really also, and it
really was fought.

Speaker 17 (01:06:32):
It feels like things are coming together. From the positional standpoint.
You've got quite a few of your pitchers back. It
felt like to me the Baltimore series. Obviously the bats
were fantastic, Joe, you certainly want to start to get
some link out of your starting pitching.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
And I thought perhaps.

Speaker 17 (01:06:46):
The brightest spot of that group was even though Spencer,
you know, got in some trouble with pitch count early
in the game, he was able to give you five
and a third. And so I think we're kind of
looking for that same kind of thing, maybe especially with
a guy like Lance mccollors.

Speaker 18 (01:06:58):
Yes, that will be.

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
That's an area where we know that these guys are
capable of doing that, and it hasn't been the case
here the last few outings. But we know those guys
once they get settled. You know, some of these guys
are coming back from injuries, so it usually takes a
little bit of time to get them for them to
get settled. And and and I think we were getting
to that point where we saw, like Spencer did, where

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he stuff was in the zone. You know, aside from
that first inning when he threw twenty something pitches, he
he was efficient after that, no walks, His stuff was
really good. And we're going to need some of those
guys to help us out so we can, you know,
not have to lean heavily on our bullpen so early
in the game.

Speaker 19 (01:07:41):
Joe, how important was it to see Jesus Sanchez get
off to a hot start out in the Oriel Park
at Camden just after what he was doing over the
last several weeks and his kind of finding his moment
in his stride here to be able to get seven
hits in the first three games.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
How important is that coming home to any ten game
home stand?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:07:58):
Big, because you know, he finally you know, he's been
hitting the ball hard, but finally see the ball hit,
you know, hit the ball in the air, in the gaps.
It was very encouraging. The home run that he hit,
and you know, on that first pitch, it was like
a breaking ball and he was able to keep it
in the air and stay through it. And that's just
the tu centius that we that we went and got

(01:08:19):
from Miami. That's the tucentias that he's been able to
you know, hammer right hand or pitching in his career.
Very encouraging. We need we need that bat. We need
that bat in the middle of a lineup to produce
to drive people in uh Man. You know, we saw
him and Christian Walker really put some big swings in
that in that series in Baltimore.

Speaker 17 (01:08:41):
Skip when you lost Josh, I think the transformation moving
uh A brad of the ninth inning was was gonna
be an easy one. It was gonna be who's going
to pick up that seventh and eighth inning, And I
thought Bennet Susa would have been a great example for that,
and unfortunately he's now down a little bit. What is
the mindset when you talk to your pitching coach about
getting some time with those relievers and you talking to

(01:09:02):
them yourself about you're now being asked to go into
a spot that you maybe weren't asked to do, you know,
two or three or four weeks ago, when you kind
of had seven, eight nine basically set up for yourself.

Speaker 10 (01:09:14):
Yeah, you know those guys, you know, the Brian Kings,
the calib D, that Brian Oker that those guys have
been throwing leverage, leverage innings for us. You know, either in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
The fifth or the sixth they've been in.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
They pitched some big moments throughout the season, so they're
not completely.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
New to the new role.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
For me, it's just more for them just to be themselves,
you know, trust the game plan, their conviction, behind their work,
behind every pitch, just like they've done the whole entire
season for us to demonstrate, you know, trust and confidencing
them because they've been really good. We couldn't be in
this position if you wasn't. From our entire bullpen, my

(01:09:58):
conversations with them, it's just continues.

Speaker 18 (01:10:00):
To be the same.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
We trust you.

Speaker 10 (01:10:02):
I'm going to hang you in the ball and this moment,
in this spot and this against this pocket because I
trust you you're good enough to get these people out.
And you you know, we need them to step up,
and they've been stepping up the whole entire season. I'm
boop and it's been it's been really, really good.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
They have, but they've fallen on rocky times and I've
seen more than one person refer to the bullpen as gassed.
Do you get ungassed if it's still this early or
still this much time left in the season before you're
gonna need them to pay, you know, pitch really high
leverage situations.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
I was one of those people that use that very
term multiple times. I think this entire team is going
to be gassed when they get to the playoffs. I
believe they're going to the playoffs, and I believe they
will be gassed when they get there.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Sounds great.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
If they can win this division and pass the Blue Jays,
then everything will be fine. Then they'll have five days off.
If they can win this division and do so by
a couple of games, then I think everything will be
fine and that you're not playing that final series of
the season with something else on the line. But very
unlikely they will both have the division clinched and a

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top two seed clinch probably at any point during the
final two series of the season. I just don't think
they're in that positive of a position. But that's just
the way it is. When you have this many pitchers out,
you're going to be gassed. They're running out guys that
would not normally be pitching as often and certainly would
not be pitching in as often of these high leverage situations.

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It's the last thing we just heard from MT and
Joe talking about. He feels comfortable with it. He really
doesn't have any option. They are probably going to throw
Crab Kimbrel in high leverage innings. I assume you count
his only inning as a high leverage inning. It's a
very very close game. It was a one swing at game.
He hasn't been a major leaguer in twenty twenty five

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other than one inning, and he's throwing high leverage innings
for a first place team, trying to hold off a
team within two games of them. Because that's where the
Astros are right go wrong. They don't have any other options.
They're going outside the order organization multiple times to do so.
Who else through in that game? John Rooney outside the organization,
acquired after the deadline, and unfortunately, as we learned today,

(01:12:10):
he had elbow inflammation and he's now not available.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
By the way, the fact that they didn't get and
no one else picked up Ryan Presley should tell you
all you need to know about what they think of
him at this point in his career.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
Because everybody uses information, they have all the information they need,
and I don't mean their eyeballs. Their eyeballs can definitely
tell them part of the story, but all the other numbers,
the measurables, tell you everything else on the story with
Ryan Presley. It is unfortunate because I obviously had unbelievable
great times here, not great times here, not good times here,
unbelievably great times here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
But not likely to reappear here with the Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
Jordan Alvarez reappears when he emerges from the dugout to
play left field tonight for your Houston Astros. What else
does it mean for the rest of the Astros?

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
We hit on that next.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
The Age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Almost halfway Home on this Tuesday edition of the eighteen
in advance of Astros Baseball Back on the Diamond tonight
at dyke In Park, first of ten, first of three
with Colorado, and We've got, of course here for you.
On Sports Talk seven to ninety and over there at
Space City Home Network. Here at Space City Home Network
this evening, a little bit after seven o'clock for first
pitch from Hunter Brown to Victor Carratini, and Jordon Alvarez

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is in the lineup tonight for the Houston Astros.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
He's batt and clean up. He's playing left field.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
I will give you the last two posts from your
Houston Astros on social media about nineteen minutes ago. Get
hype h town hashtag built for this, and they put
together a graphic utilizing their out of town scoreboard picture
of Jordon Alvarez menacing stare picture of Jordon Alvarez probably

(01:13:53):
just homered off of Robbie Ray, and it says on
the manual scoreboard graphically created he's back. More recently, roughly,
let's see five minutes and twenty seconds ago. I believe
this would be the all time record in longest post
ever made by the Houston Astros franchise on the X

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platform in terms of word count to three hundred and
seventy seven word post the Astros made within the last
three minutes. What could it be about? It's all the
lyrics with a picture attached. The pictures two people who
have just gotten engaged. The woman standing is us, the

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man kneeling is Jordan Alvarez. It's one of the pictures
posted by Trav and Taylor on their Instagram account and
asking their engagement in the three hundred and seventy seven words.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Are the lyrics to love story.

Speaker 12 (01:14:52):
They were doing so well, as we said earlier today
when some teams decided to intertwine the schedule, least for
Major League Baseball with the smaller sports related news that
Taylor Swift's.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
Gonna marry somebody that plays football. The Astros didn't put
those two together, but they have in fact embraced sports
and two people that don't play their sport getting married.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Well, you left out that they had already posted a
video prior to the menacing graphic preceding this one.

Speaker 6 (01:15:24):
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He's obviously the photo they've used in their starting lineup graphic.
There's plenty of yord on there, plenty.

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You posted it, we move on. It's tainted it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
Texans have not announced who who has made the initial
fifty three man roster. I put together a graphic with
the fifty three man roster about two hours ago. I've
not had to make a single change to it, haven't
published it, haven't used it on our television program yet
because it hasn't become official. But the moves I expected

(01:16:18):
them to make have so far. Those that have been
leaked or sourced, John Alexander, Aaron Wilson, among others that
have found out, have not seen any that I was
incorrect on. That includes Brooks making the initial fifty three.
That includes Luke Lche their late round draft pick out
of Iowa, a tight end not making the initial fifty three,

(01:16:39):
but I'm sure their belief is he won't be claimed
and they can resign him to the or sign him
to the practice squad Tomorrow at eleven am. Also likely
means the player they just traded for, Harrison Bryant at
tight end with the Philadelphia Eagles, will make the team
On a side note to that, when it was reported
that Aeneas Smith from Texas A and M will not

(01:16:59):
make the fifty three with the Eagles, more evidence that
John Metchie will. And simply the trade itself just like, well,
we didn't trade for Harrison Harrison Bryant so he wouldn't
make the team. You traded for him because you knew
he would make the team. You felt like there was
a very strong case that you wanted him so he
would make the team. The Eagles did the same thing
with John Metchi. But there's just a couple of other

(01:17:20):
question marks left and one that should be answered officially
with the roster releases. The long snapper they had last week,
Blake Ferguson, who has long snapped in the NFL for
the Dolphins before, was brought in because Austin Brinkman was
unavailable due to health in their final preseason game. He'll
be released officially in the expectation as Brinkman is fine.

(01:17:40):
Haven't noticed any issues with his snapping. They obviously missed
a kick in the game without him snapping, so I
guess he's better than Blake Ferguson. I don't know if
he's better than John Weeks. I know he didn't make
a tackle better than John Weeks made a tackle this
past week.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Of course he did. He's a legend.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
But hopefully that doesn't in any way become a problem
area when it wasn't in any way a problem area
for this team for better than a decade. If your
have to either makes zero tackles in his NFL career
and then decides I'm going to snap and then I'm
going to sit down, I would still have him long.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Snapping if I knew he was going to make all
of his long snaps.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
Seriously, what was the good reason to wave goodbye to
John Weeks?

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Because they think that player can with a little bit
with how the protection for those players obviously is now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
I think that they want that player to do more.
They want him to be younger, more athletic, bigger, and
more capable, and that's the player they have now. But
what about the long snapping?

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Yeah, but I mean that's the fact that you haven't
had to worry about that and it was a foregone
conclusion is a.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Luxury, right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
There's probably twenty six to twenty eight teams every year
that don't have to worry about it, and they'd stay
with those guys as long as they can, and maybe
three or fourteen teams that change every year or too,
they go through it and they're like, well, we didn't
like the guy we had and we have to find somebody,
and we just haven't found him yet. Most teams do
what the Texans did for as long as they can,
and I guess the Texans just felt like this was

(01:19:12):
as long as we can. Unfortunately for John, They're placekicking
situation in San Francisco is extremely uneasy as they head
into the season, But unofficially it appears the Texans will
carry seven wide receivers on the initial fifty three. Not
sure about Mertz yet still as their third quarterback, but
Watson and Barrios two of their free agent signings, Noel

(01:19:33):
and Higgins, two of their draftees, one of their early
free agent signings, Christian Kirk, and just two holdovers Xavier
Hutchinson and Nico Collins caught passes from C. J.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Stroud last year.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
Obviously, Tank Dell is still a part of the Texans,
but will not be on the initial fifty three man roster.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
What do you think is the ultimate what ends up happening?
With Tank Dell. I still do you think where he's
at in his rookie deal and all that stuff too.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
Well, what ultimately happens with him is if he can
prove to be healthy before that rookie deal runs out.
And I believe that that door will happen. I mean
that will happen because of when he was drafted, in
what year he's in, so he'll have an opportunity to
one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
They'll have that information. I don't I'm not closing the
book on.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Twenty twenty five personally, and I've only seen a little
bit more than what everybody else it's at practice fans
or family members. Additionally, we've seen him there, We've seen
how he's moved there. I've seen a little bit more
than that. Away from that, with just some of what
I understand about how things are going. I don't think
it's imminent. I don't think it's weeks away. I still
think it's months away. But I think there will be

(01:20:39):
an opportunity to consider whether or not he is capable
of playing this year, and in that vein, I don't
really believe there's any reason he wouldn't be healthy heading
into this offseason and healthy heading into what would then
be the final year of his four year rookie contract
twenty twenty six. So I don't think there's an extension
obviously waiting for him, and I think he would have

(01:21:00):
to play in twenty twenty six before anything would happen.
But the off season between twenty six and seven, maybe
there's an opportunity to make a deal because he just
had a really good.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Year, the ultimate prove it season.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
But unfortunately, in light of what the injury was, I'm
not even mad at him for doing that. So yeah,
that'll be interesting to keep an eye on as well.
Lots of things we have been keeping an eye on
all day long. You know we haven't done really is
talk about the college side of things, and we're gonna
catch up with Mike Craven, who is a senior writer
of Dave Campbell's Texas Football. Will do that when we

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Pleasure to jump into some football talk. College Gridiron opened
up their season this past week, one matchup of note
with Iowa State and Kansas State getting together and now
a whole lot more with Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday Monday

(01:23:13):
games slated for this week one of the college football season.
To that end, Dave Campbell's Texas Football Mike Craven, senior
writer for that publication and entity, joins us here. Mike
really appreciate you joining us here this very exciting week
of the arrival true arrival of college football here, and
certainly with how it gets off on Saturday morning with

(01:23:34):
number one versus Number two, a rematch from last year's postseason,
and yet there are major, major question marks for both teams.
How about if we start with the opponent, the less
hyped quarterback of the two or of anybody in America. Mike,
what do you think about the Ohio State starting quarterback
in this very large game to open the season.

Speaker 23 (01:23:57):
Yeah, well, we haven't seen much of them. You know,
obviously your red shirted last year. You know, a red
shirt freshman. I know, Texas recruited him. He's highly thought of.
He can move better than I think a lot of
people give him credit for, and so it's going to
be a challenge for Texas. I think the good news
for the Longhorns is they have a fourth year DC
and a lot of experience on that defense, so maybe

(01:24:17):
they can rattle them, you know, cause them to be
confused in his first game out there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Interesting you bring that up.

Speaker 6 (01:24:23):
Was going to ask you about continuity on one side,
the Longhorn side with their coordinators, lack of continuity and
that they happen to be new on Ohio State's side,
do you think that's a factor in this game.

Speaker 24 (01:24:36):
I do you know?

Speaker 23 (01:24:38):
Obviously, Ohio State's advantage is being at home. I think
Texas's advantages they know a little bit more of who
they are. You know, of the four main units that
are going to take the field on Saturday, Ohio State's offense,
Ohio State's defense, Texas offense, Texas defense, we probably know
the most about Texas's defense. I think that's why I
lean you know that way. Ohio States defense is not

(01:24:58):
only breaking in a lot of new faces, they're breaking
in a new defensive coordinator. Can they get exotic? Can
they get into their bag? Can they break tendencies to
confuse arch Manning in the same way Pee Kwakowski and
Anthony Hill and Colin Simmons and Michael taff and all
those guys can do to Julians say, And I think
that is Texas's advantage on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
We've talked about arch Manning and the esteem that he
has been held in UH for a long time this offseason,
and how it's just assumed, I think by a lot
that he will just you know, slide in seamlessly and
lead the Longhorns to glory.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
It's not that we don't want that to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
We both have daughters that are at their school that
school right now, and Wex is a product of you T.
But I just is there a little bit to be
said for pumping the brakes a little bit until we
actually see him play?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 23 (01:25:47):
You know he's the He's the most hyped college football
player probably since Tim Tebow.

Speaker 10 (01:25:52):
You just don't see.

Speaker 23 (01:25:54):
I think college football the famous people usually the head coaches.
They're they're the they're the guys that have all the power.
You see their faces. College football players wear helmets. They
shuffle in and out every three or four years. By
the time they get that big of a stage or
that big of a name, they're off to the NFL. Now,
Arch is different because of his family. He's from the
first family of football. This is really anticipated. I think

(01:26:15):
the optimism, at least on the Texas side, to me,
comes from trusting Steve Starkesian. Like Steve Starkeisian knows about quarterbacks,
he knows about offense, and he let a pretty good
college quarterback walk out the door. Like if Texas didn't
believe in arch Manning, if sark didn't believe in arch Manning,
they probably could have kept youers around, but they let

(01:26:37):
him go because they think that this offense has a
higher ceiling with Arch. You know, I think a lot
of people just trust Stark's ability to evaluate quarterbacks. And
you know, we'll see if he can hit the ground running,
like I think he can become a really really good quarterback.
Will he be elite in Week one at Ohio State?
I think that's probably the bigger question.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
You unfortunately set me up to be rather mean here
with the used on their quarterback decision. They probably let
quin Yewrs go the moment he let go of the
football when he was sacked in the semi final by
Jack Sawyer is my guess on why they've moved on
for various reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
But you made it too easy for me.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
You guys on your podcast not too long ago, ran
through the Texas football teams, with Texas being the team
expected to have the most wins, or, at least by
Vegas predictions, the most wins. Who's the next best team
in the state of Texas after Texas.

Speaker 23 (01:27:32):
It's a great question. I think it's probably a three
team race between Texas Tech, Texas A and M and
you know, Baylor probably I guess SMU's probably in.

Speaker 18 (01:27:42):
That mix as well.

Speaker 23 (01:27:44):
I guess I go, if we're just going on the
football field, I take a and m over those other teams.
They have a really good offensive line. I think they
got better at wide receiver year two, Mike Elko kind
of taking more of a control of the defense. I
feel like that unit's gonna get better. And it probably
just depends on your perception of Marcel Reid and if
he's going to be good or not. But I think
on a neutral field, and and it would be considered

(01:28:07):
the next best team, the most successful team probably is
going to be Texas Tech. I think they have a
talent advantage over most of the Big Twelve. They do
have to go and play three really tough road games,
but with the money that they spent and the talents
that they brought in, I think they haven't a personnel
advantage on more Saturdays than any of those other teams
I mentioned.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
We're talking to Mike Craven.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
He is a senior writer for Dave Campbell's Texas Football,
and I'm assuming, since you do write for that very publication,
you're more than happy about the fact that the Longhorns
and the aggies are getting together again on a regular basis.

Speaker 23 (01:28:43):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:28:44):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:28:45):
I think one of the issues, one of the bad
negative parts of modern college football is that we've lost
the regionality that this sport existed upon. You know, everything's
about the national championship, everything's about the College Football Playoff.
It used to be about eating the team that your
friends rooted for, you know. And if you grew up
a Texas fan in Austin, you probably don't know a

(01:29:06):
ton of Alabama grads or a ton of Old miss
grads or Tennessee grads.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
But you know Tech.

Speaker 23 (01:29:11):
Fans, you know, you know Baylor fans, you know A
and M fans, and I you know, we lost some
of the rivalries when Texas went to the SEC, but
gaining the Texas, Texas A and M one. I think
it's tremendous and the sport would be a lot healthier
if the teams that hated each other played more often.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
A couple of games with some regional appeal going on
this weekend of note and certainly worthy of a bit
of our time. Surprisingly, one of those is Monday Night,
and it's not because TCUs in the game. It's because
of the other team in the game, that's North Carolina,
and I know we'll see a lot of them, not
only because they'll put them on as often as they can,
but because of their own internal production. Will be so

(01:29:50):
lucky to get the inside look at. But Bill Belichick,
college football coach, will be filling the blank.

Speaker 23 (01:30:00):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
I think it'll be interesting. I don't know, you know.

Speaker 23 (01:30:08):
I think Belichick's genius is what he was able to
install and how exotic his defense could get, like how
he could trick other opponents or take away the thing
that you did really well. I'm not sure you can
do that with college athletes in the same way. I
think it's much more of a personnel game, especially on defense,
Like you need a bunch of dudes you do three

(01:30:28):
or four things really well, and you just go stop
the opponent. More times than not you force turnovers. I
don't know, in a twenty hour work week with college
age kids that are dealing with class and girlfriends and
you know, all that kind of drama, if you can
really sit there and game plan weekend and week out
in the same way, I don't know if he'll recruit
in a way that they need to to compete with

(01:30:49):
Miami and Clemson and maybe even SMU in Florida State.
So I think it'll be interesting. You know, I think
for Sonny Dykes in the TCU angle, you need to
go win this football game. You know, you lost to
Dion Sanders when he made his FBS you know, debut,
and that kind of you know, tanks the whole season.
I think it just caused a crisis of faith within

(01:31:09):
that locker room. I think this could be a similar
result if they lose again, where you know you're losing
to an average ACC team. You know, maybe you get
out coached on the road and you start looking around
in the locker room and wonder.

Speaker 10 (01:31:21):
How good you are?

Speaker 23 (01:31:21):
Right, you know, And so I think this is more
important for TCU than North Carolina. But you know, as
you pointed out, people are going to be watching it
a lot more for the North Carolina side than the
TCU side.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
Mike Craven here with us really appreciate the manner in
which you told our listeners how Bill Belichick will relate
to his college student athletes that he's in charge of,
because he too will be dealing with girlfriend issues as
the season unfolds and forever how long he and his
girlfriend are together or then ultimately become engaged. We saw
a major engagement earlier today. If I told you that

(01:31:52):
the national champion this year will not come from the
two big games this weekend, it will not be Texas,
Ohio State, or LSU or Clemson, then who would you
say the national champion will be?

Speaker 23 (01:32:06):
Probably Penn State or Alabama, you know, James Franklin. Yeah,
you can't win the big one until you win the
big one.

Speaker 24 (01:32:13):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:32:13):
We've seen a lot of coaches have that tag, and
then you go win a national championship and you don't
have that tag. I mean, Ryan Day had that tag
in November last year when he lost to Michigan. He
goes and wins the national championship. I like Penn State's roster.
I think their schedule sets up to where, you know,
they're a pretty obvious college football playoff team. And then
you know, nowadays with the twelve team roster, you just
got to get there and see if you can survive

(01:32:35):
in advance, see what the draw is, get a favorable
one end up in the championship, and then into one
game scenario and then I you know, I think Alabama,
you know I'm a I'm a stars matter guy. I
believe in the blue chip ratio and just that there's
probably six to eight teams in college football that have
the rosters that are capable of handling a sixteen game

(01:32:56):
season and winning a four or a three game playoffs
the Walehouse they did last year, and Alabama's one of
those teams. Like They're gonna have super freaks everywhere. They're
gonna be really good along the offensive line, they got
a really good defense. I think they're going to be better.

Speaker 18 (01:33:09):
In year two.

Speaker 23 (01:33:10):
You know, de Bors got his his offensive coordinator back
and Grubb coming there from the Seahawks, So I think
Alabama's gonna be a really good team. That's probably who
I would take to win the SEC Championship. I think
the Crimson Tid if their quarterback hits, it's kind of
like Ohio Ston Texas, Like that's I think what's fun
about twenty twenty five is the COVID year quarterbacks have
mostly washed out and we're back to just kind of

(01:33:31):
seeing what these young guys can do and having some
question marks across the board. The team with all the talent,
who has their quarterback really emerge as a quality player.
I think he's gonna win the championship and that's going
to be Ohio State, Texas, Alabama one of those teams.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
It's a really interesting quarterback season. You know, guys like Club,
Nick Nussmayer, Aller versus, all these super talented teams, but
they're all running out new quarterbacks who very inexperienced quarterbacks
have the talent to do it. Mike super Information, Really
appreciate the time and look for to catching up.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
With you again.

Speaker 23 (01:34:01):
Absolutely, God, I appreciate the invite.

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The a tea.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
National media except for Mike. We loved him.

Speaker 5 (01:39:56):
That's more of a regional media, though not national so much.
We were discussing that during the break. It is the
eight team, Sports Talk seven ninety and Space City Home Network.
All right, fifty three man roster go still unreleased officially.
You're so far, so good, as far as like any
wild surprises.

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
No, there's one that's changed because I had the Texans
trying to sneak Graham Mertz through waivers and then add
them to the practice squad. But in fact, as of
current reporting, they will not try to sneak him through
but just put him on the roster.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
Are you always a I don't like three quarterbacks guy.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
I mean, because I've heard.

Speaker 6 (01:40:37):
He's a player they shouldn't have even drafted, So I
don't is to you, No, Dave were goone. It's not
personal with Dave Goon. That's just the dumbest thing ever.
You just drafted your franchise quarterback. Why would you use
a pick that high on another quarterback who also happens
to be bad at football?

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
So because this guy was drafted with a lower pick.

Speaker 6 (01:40:56):
Yeah, much lower pick, even though it's I mean to
Nick it's a throwaway pick. They're cutting their seventh round pick.
Their other seventh round pick unfortunately is out for the year.
They're going to keep this fifth round pick because he
I mean, I don't know what it is you could
have seen in this body of work, and then obviously
what you've seen on any kind of workouts he might
have had, which in his case had to be pretty

(01:41:17):
limited because he's been wearing a brace on his knee
for all of the workouts in the offseason because he
came off of ACL surgery. But he just didn't play
very good football with Wisconsin and he didn't play enough
football with Florida, So I'm not really sure why that
player was drafted at all. I'm not going to say
he didn't outplay Keaton Slovis, because he clearly did, not
only in this most recent game, but I certainly think

(01:41:37):
that was at worst a dead heat during their third
and fourth team reps that they got with what we
saw during training camp. So having him third over Slows
is fine. It's just a shame some other player currently.
They may still change the roster. Obviously, this is just
the initial fifty three, and there is some there are
some games to be played sometimes with your well, we'll

(01:41:59):
put him on the initial fifty three. When general managers
the other thirty one teams are looking at hundreds and
hundreds of players that have been released, and then they
make all their moves and they pick up who they want,
and then they have their second final fifty three man roster,
and then we'll make those moves too, and we'll release
this guy then and maybe we'll have less interest in him,

(01:42:20):
or people will have already. Well, I didn't know this
quarterback would be available. I'll just add him as my third.
I didn't know that player would be available. I'll at
him as my fifth. And maybe they believe it'd be
easier to find his way back to them via the
practice squad if they do it in that order. But yeah,
carrying a third quarterback, he's developmental. You want a developmental
quarterback on your sixty nine man roster, but preferably among

(01:42:41):
these sixteen practice squad players rather than on your actual roster.
Like the Browns made a trade last night, can he
pick it out? So their hierarchic quarterback, and Watson was
obviously today officially put on their injured reserve starters. Joe Flacco,
the backup is their third round pick. The backup to
him is their fifth round pick. That's fine to carry

(01:43:03):
those two quarterbacks. It'd be nice to have a veteran
behind the other veteran. But if something happens with Joe Flacco,
like he plays because he's bad, then they'll have to
look to a rookie to replace him, and if that
rookie plays bad, then they have to look to another rookie.
Both of these guys are probably a little bit underprepared
to be out there this early and get that's what
they have. The Texans will never Gramertz isn't going to play,

(01:43:24):
because if they get into a situation where they go
into a week where they're out a quarterback, then they're
going to sign a quarterback before they would play him
in in my opinion, at least halfway through the season,
which if that's what they do, it makes the pick again,
why'd you? I mean, if they had gone about it
this way, like putting him on the roster means that
there would be a reasonable chance that they would feel

(01:43:46):
otherwise that they would say, well, if we have to
go into a game after Davis Mills hurt up hand
in practice, we'll go into a game with him as
the number two.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
I would think that's foolish. I hope, by the way, that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
If you've gotten to the point where you're on third
and fourth string quarterbacks, the season's gone very soon.

Speaker 6 (01:44:03):
In a game, it could happen like if your starter's hurt, well,
now number two is number one and number three is
number two. So in that particular game, well, if Davis Mills,
you know, catches an elbow, it hurts a shoulder, well
then the next guy has to play.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
You wouldn't want to do it long term.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
You would immediately you would have already had a plan
in place to to not like. I don't think Graham
Marks takes any snaps for the Texans this year. Also,
That's why I'm not I would I would prefer not
to put him on the rong roster.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
No, it makes sense you Deshaun Watson when this deals up,
I mean, I'm assuming some team will put him on
its roster. Not Cleveland, by the way, I don't think.
I mean, what's what's his Here's here's Cleveland situation. If
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
I believe they have Jacksonville's pick in the upcoming draft
and their own and Watson presumably is healthy. Dylan Gabriel
is already on the roster, Shodar Sanders is already on
the roster, and Joe Flacca will not be on the roster.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
They finally said it's still done.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
They will not have a quarterback for sure. As they
hit the off season, they'll have a question mark at quarterback,
and they very well might have landed one of the
top five picks, top one pick, top two. I don't
know where they'll land with those picks in there, Kitty,
and they could be looking to draft their actual future
at quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
That scenario is insane because you had to know that
would possibly be the case when you drafted chud Or Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
And a quarterback two rounds before him.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Well, that goes without saying. But if those guys aren't
good enough.

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
Well they wasted picks, right, but you had the op
Maybe I'm not sure that there's total belief that the
Sanders pick after a quarterback, like when the Commanders Redskins
at the time took Robert Griffin the third and then
in the same draft took Kirk Cousins and then the
Falcons signed Kirk Cousins and drafted Michael Pennock. Sometimes you
feel so good about somebody you can't you feel like

(01:45:55):
not passing them up. Most every other team would, and
everybody sitting in our chairs thinks it's foolis.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Yeah, because you have other positions that you need to address.

Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
Yeah, every year, every year, and you're sitting here, You've
drafted Sanders and Gabriel with two picks in the middle
of the same draft, whom you would prefer not see
the field in twenty twenty five, and now no other
player you could have drafted will see the field either
because he's not on your team. Third round picks matter.
They play for you, They play good for you for

(01:46:24):
four years, especially they played well fan you. So yeah,
I wouldn't exactly say I really.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Like what the Browns did with their last draft. No,
that's why they're the Browns. But they also could have
unintentionally intentionally put themselves in position to be at the
top of the draft considering everything.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
Yeah, but they're always at the top of the draft,
or they are a lot considering everything that happened with
Deshaun Watson here in Houston, because that's all that matters,
at least as far as Texans fans and we go.
They I don't know that the Texans could have made
out any better than they have. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:46:58):
A really good trade on face when you got the
picks that you got. It's become an even better trade
with what you've been able to do with those things.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
And if you end up winning with a lot of
this corps, that came as directly as a result from
that deal. I don't think it's now you'd have to
win a minimum of three. I don't think it's unfair
to compare that to herschel Walker because of what you got.
You got your franchise quarterback, but you also got Will
Anderson Junior, all the players that came back as a

(01:47:29):
result of Again.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
Hershel Walker was a great player in good standing.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
He wasn't a you know, all these cases pending, all
that kind of stuff, so you're literally you're trading somebody
who has got all sorts of baggage. Herschel Walker wasn't
like that. The only thing that baggage came later, yes,
but the end, the only reason that that became plenty
of people to carry it a thing was of that

(01:47:54):
little trick in the deal where they had to if
they released those players, they get the picks from Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
That's the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
I still think it's going to be hard to compare
the two favorably. I'll compare them, but I'll still think
the Cowboys deal is a little bit better.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
And you mentioned the CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Stroud you got, you happened happened to get your franchise
quarterback during this timeline, you didn't get your franchise quarterback
as a as any kind of piece of this deal.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
He wasn't the pick that you got because it was.

Speaker 6 (01:48:18):
Your pick and you were already going to be bad
and you were already with bad. While DeShawn was on
the roster, he spent two years on this bad roster.
One year he played and they won four games, and
then one year they cullied it to a bad roster.
He was still on the roster for both of those seasons. Yeah,
so they earned they played their way into drafting CJ.
Stroud that they traded their way into drafting Will Anderson,

(01:48:40):
and he has officely a big part of that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
I started the Cowboys Netflix thing last night. I fell
asleep midway through the second episode.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Too much Jerry keeping you well, it's just uninterested.

Speaker 23 (01:48:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
It's funny if I said it was a Jerry.

Speaker 6 (01:48:52):
Jones documentary, would you say, yes, Well, it's called The Gambler,
it's about him, like, but everybody calls it a Cowboys doc.
It's the Jones doc.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
It's about but it's specifically about the the nineties Cowboys,
which again.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
That's very popular. They were good well, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Like if I'm a Cowboys fan and I'm watching this
and I'm also seeing what's going on with Michael Parsons,
and I'm also saying, oh, yeah, that was the last
time we want anything. All this is is a reminder.
Like you can talk about the Rockets making their documentary
about the mid nineties. Yeah, it was a nice little
two hour documentary, eight episodes of this garbage.

Speaker 6 (01:49:26):
It was just it's so self mirandizing worthy. No, it's
very good in my opinion, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
Done well, but it's just it's all it is to
me and probably a lot of Cowboys fans, is a
reminder we don't do this anymore, and we won't for
a while, a long time until this guy's out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
And people would not be as interested if it was
a doc about any of the latter chapters of the
Cowboys ten years ago, because it's all ugh, it is sick.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
It did remind me of just what a tone deaf
piece of you know what he was. I know you
had to fire Tom Landry and the GM and the
PA anouncer, and I mean it was on and on
and on. He just has he hasn't gotten any more
less tone deaf.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
I would imagine each and every part episode of the
uh Jones doc contains nothing but a long long list
of say what, over and over and over again, because
we're getting it right now with Michael Parsons, et cetera.
But we have say what coming your way next here
on the eighteen.

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Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
It is that time of the week where we look
around the sports world and we asked that very question.
I came across this because I'm a wrestling fan, but
it's also if you're a Pasters fan, for example, it's
a super super painful reminder of not only what could

(01:56:40):
have been in the NBA Finals but won't likely will
be this year because of the injury that Tyrese Halliburton
suffered during the NBA Finals trying to play through a
strained calf that torn into turned into a torn achilles
Easy for me to say, By.

Speaker 6 (01:56:57):
The way, Jake Myers is going on a rehab assignment
starting tomorrow. To try to play through and recover from
a CAF strain.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Mariners are dead, Oh kilroll even fifty loon Ronn.

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Cares you guys suck So anyways, Astro's getting healthier.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Love it, love to see it. Tires. Halliburton revealed.

Speaker 5 (01:57:17):
That there were talks for him to walk out with
John Cena at this past summer's WWE SummerSlam.

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
Pre injury or post injury, Well like where the plans
in place before the injury took place, because otherwise he
would be walking boot out with John Cena.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Right unless he was faking it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:36):
I think Rollin's ig post yesterday or the day before
with him in a walking boot with his lady friend.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
Oh did I mention one little detail that I leave
out the fact that you would have walked out with
the NBA trophy.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Uh, but they would have had to win the title.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Now if he didn't get hurt. Do you think the
Okase still wins that series?

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
I can't even believe it was as difficult for them
to get through the pay as it turned out to be.
But even saying that, I still think they would have
found a way.

Speaker 13 (01:58:04):
But was it solely because of Tyrese haliburtn or was
the word.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
The Passahoma City was gonna win no matter what. I
can't believe it was so hard for them.

Speaker 5 (01:58:16):
I don't want to be unfair to the Pacers run
by agreeing with you when you say that, Like I I.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
Mean, I'm trying not to be seduced by the Thunders record,
because I always point that out when we get to
the postseason. When you get to the postseason, every single
game you played against the team that's not in the postseason,
throw it out the window.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
So if OKC you finished sixty eight and fourteen and
they went twenty nine and six, twenty nine and seven
against the teams that aren't there, throw those games out.
They don't They're not related to anything that's about to happen.
It does not matter. And that explains why it took
two different teams. They took them two different times to

(01:58:55):
get through an opponent seven game series. This unbelievable juggernaut
of a camp be beat overwhelming favorite was taken to
two different seventh games. They weren't nearly I don't think
as good as that would indicate, because you're only playing
the best teams now and they're not as far ahead
of them as a sixty eight win team suggests that
they are.

Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
I have maybe it's because of the way the Rockets
matched up against them, and certainly that's going to affect
how I feel about this upcoming season now that the Rockets.
I don't think the Rockets took a significant step back defensively.
I know they, I mean Dylan Brooks being gone, is
Dylan Brooks being got? But like you've added pieces and

(01:59:37):
in some senses on both ends of the floor, added
pieces to a group that also added Kevin Durant and
Hasimn Thompson, and I think, you know, Alprin Shingoon's going
to take the next step this upcoming year. There's a
lot to like about this upcoming Rockets season, but as
it pertains to just how they match up with the Thunder,
it's gonna be different now because they didn't have Kevin

(01:59:58):
Durant last time, assuming that would be better, But that
team without Kevin Durant and with Dylan Brooks and Jalen Green,
they gave the Thunder a run for its money as
much as any other team did in the regular season.

Speaker 19 (02:00:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00:10):
Still though in the regular season as a factor.

Speaker 5 (02:00:13):
Maybe, and there's adjustments and it's a seven game series
and all that kind of stuff. Better find out real quick, Kyle.
That's going to go though, because.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
I think you're in season. You're game planning for these teams.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
Is I'm not gonna say nothing because that's not accurate,
but it's twenty percent of what you do in a
postseason game.

Speaker 4 (02:00:29):
You only have so much time. Did you play them
on a back to back?

Speaker 6 (02:00:31):
Are you game planning for them, you know, two days
out because you have a back to back? Did you
gain plan for them on the team plane? Did you
have you know, as your team healthy at the time,
And that obviously applies in the postseason. But the Rockets
were like probably three or four other teams, and Denver
was one of those teams and turned out on the
other side, Indiana was one of those teams. Denver has
gotten better this offseason too, could match up with the

(02:00:55):
Thunder favorably. Yeah, that's the thing with these teams near
the top.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
Of the West, flying under the radar.

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
These who got worse, Like who's falling off? The Rockets
were two, you know, the Clippers are were five, they're better.
I think the Nuggets were four. They're better. I think
the Rockets at two are better. I think, like, what
about the Lakers who were three. I don't think they
got better. I think they just kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
The only way they're better is if their skinny Luca
is insane.

Speaker 6 (02:01:24):
He's a little bit better than he was last year.
They figure out how to get the most out of
their best three players. They definitely did not do that
last year. Luca, Austin Reeves, and and Lebron were not
They never clicked period during their final handful of games
that they all played together. They're probably a little bit
better in them. I mean, I don't like DeAndre Ayton
as a great player, but he's a heck of a
lot better than what they had last year.

Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
I just think that I don't know what to think
of the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (02:01:50):
Well, they don't worry you might also, Yeah, they don't
worry me either. I don't know if they're better or
worse though, if that's the question, Clippers don't worry me
at all either. I'm not ready to say they're They're
reliant too much on older bodies to play one hundred
games or be a part of one hundred game season,
and that's probably too worrisome to pick them.

Speaker 5 (02:02:09):
Denver Okac, that's the only teams that are even on
my radar. If I'm the Rockets, now you've got you've
got to make it work, like what we always talk
about with the Astros, You've got to take care of
your business. But Kevin Durant wanted to come here for
a reason. They've got arguably the best crop of young
talent in the NBA that's not on Okac's roster. And

(02:02:32):
I just there's a lot to like. Vegas thinks so too,
by the way, in case you're wondering, and I know
you were, especially Tyrese Halliburton's a huge WWE fan, And
he said, the plan this is a quote. The plan
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Speaker 5 (02:10:00):
What a joy it was to just watch Jordan Alvarez
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Speaker 6 (02:10:05):
Yeah, it must have been fun for those that did
it in person, like Alex Santron and Joe Aspada and
Carlos Koran. Probably a bunch of other people we didn't see,
but they were certainly three that were watching. It's probably
worth noting we didn't earlier, but we certainly should. There
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(02:10:27):
or not they will be back. I gave you the
information that Joe actually gave Matt Thomas's audience earlier. Rehab
assignment will begin starting tomorrow for Jake Myers has been
out of action with his strained calf injury. Myers has
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il for John Rooney left elbow inflammation. If I hadn't
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(02:11:13):
were attempting to make their way back, and Lance mccullors similarly.
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just the right handed pitchers that are going down for
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and before Hater Brendan Walter, four left handers in a
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left elbow inflammation, and the other Hater.

Speaker 4 (02:11:58):
You're like the new sports MT curse It's just why
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Speaker 6 (02:12:01):
Strange that it would play out, Why would you do that? Well,
like that, Luis Garcia and Zach Decenzo suiting up for
a baseball game tonight, that's big. Both of them will
be in the Sugarland Space Cowboys lineup. Potentially Zach and
Jake can rehab in their lineup together. And I'm not
really sure when Luis Garcia's roster situation will be decided on.

Speaker 5 (02:12:27):
Well, it might need to be sooner rather than later
if these guys keep dropping like flies.

Speaker 6 (02:12:31):
Well, they finally did it with JP Franz after like
a billion outings and they transferred him off to sixty
DAYIL and he was a Space Cowboy. Well, I don't
know what their plans are with Luis, but I don't
know how he can possibly be on a rehab assignment anymore.
It hasn't been more than thirty days. It's been more
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(02:12:53):
how that's playing out. But he continues to look like
a healthy pitcher. There just may be concerned that he
can be a healthy pitcher and get people out at
the major league level. Pedro Leone is also continuing his
rehab work. He's looked pretty good in the handful of
games he's already gotten into with the Space Cowboys. I
would imagine if Jake Myers is healthy before this homestand ends,

(02:13:14):
he would find his way back to center field. Then
that would be an easy roster fixed. Tonight's starting center
fielder would likely be the player sent down, that is
Jacob Melton, And we will continue seeing how they handle
Cam Smith the rest of the way. Really long detailed
piece from Chandler Rome earlier this week on how Cam's
handled his downturn in production.

Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
What's come with it?

Speaker 6 (02:13:36):
A little bit less playing time, not necessarily benched and
out of the lineup permanently. But they've also added an
outfielder already. If if you count Jordan as an outfielder,
he's playing outfield tonight, so I will they added an
outfielder in trade in Heyesu Sanchez. They have multiple other
options like Dubon and actual outfielders that could play there.

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So he's played a lot less, his productions remained similar.
He's just not producing at all, and they have kept
him on the roster all season. I wonder if that
will continue, And like I said, I think they still
can continue that even if Jake Myers returns. If there
was some other move that needed to be made, maybe
then you'd have to question it. But I would expect
him to remain here, and maybe there are some opportunities

(02:14:18):
with his speed to help this team off the bench
in a pinch running situation, if they really get to
that point.

Speaker 4 (02:14:24):
It would also be.

Speaker 6 (02:14:24):
Nice if he came back home and got in a
couple of games and started hitting again.

Speaker 5 (02:14:29):
What happens to Chaz when Jake Myers comes back. Nothing,
he'd stay on the roster.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
Well, like I said, I would assume that the one
fifty five powerless hitting Jacob Melton would be the guy
you'd send down first.

Speaker 4 (02:14:43):
That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (02:14:45):
I just like I said the other day, seeing him
come up to the plate when you've got you're down
to your last three outs, I hate it too because
it wasn't always like that for him, but I knew
it was an out.

Speaker 6 (02:14:55):
Yeah, there's a thought, well, Jacob Melton, he's left handed batter,
let's bat him against the right so okay, perfect, and
that's what they're doing tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:15:02):
He just doesn't hit them.

Speaker 6 (02:15:03):
And there's the same thought well, Chas McCormick has history
crushing lefties, so we'll bat him against lefties. He's not
doing that this year, and he hasn't done that for
two years now, not nearly to that extent. So the
ideas of how to utilize them, it just kind of
goes out the window when they've had the kind of
seasons that those two, respectively have had. And it goes
back to the point we made when when Jake went down,
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Jake is about to potentially, if it all goes well,
come back up.

Speaker 4 (02:15:27):
They miss Jake Myers.

Speaker 6 (02:15:29):
They miss Jake Myers's bat, They miss his at bats
much more productive than those who have played center field
in his absence. Clearly, they miss his club. There's no
question about that. He always had that though.

Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
And they have.

Speaker 6 (02:15:43):
I don't think they're I mean, they probably have better
fielding center field depth than any team in baseball, but
none of them have hit. I mean, Taylor Tremmell hit
as well as any of them. Jacob Melton hasn't hit
at all. Chas McCormick hasn't hit at all, and it hurts.

Speaker 5 (02:16:00):
I'm just I'm hoping like I said earlier, and a
lot this goes along with the with the uh with
the pitching that I mentioned. Then, I'm just hoping this
is just the right amount of time to get round
everybody back into shape so that even though you think
they'll all be gassed uh.

Speaker 6 (02:16:18):
That that's the one way you can tell me I'm wrong,
because you've got two bodies that are not a fresher. Yeah,
and maybe you know that changes things, and you might
be able to say that about Jeremy Penney missed a month,
so it's a little bit different for him. Do you
do you believe in believing in uh ig posts?

Speaker 4 (02:16:36):
Depends on what we're talking about. We're talking about health
of astros.

Speaker 5 (02:16:40):
Mmmm, you're talking about Estoc Perettis. I'm talking about funny
about that. I'll let you explain what it was. It
confused a lot of people, and I don't I don't
not even necessarily. I don't even necessarily think that that
was wrong of them, because I at first I was like, wait,
what what's going on? So try and describe what he
did here? Because it was his Instagram account that this

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was posted on, but it was the caption of what
he posted.

Speaker 4 (02:17:06):
I think three people off.

Speaker 6 (02:17:07):
Well, unfortunately I didn't actually grab it off of his
own posts, So I have to believe in anybody that
grabbed it and reposted it that it was as they
reposted it. It was a graphic that you know, generically
was created by some entity when it was thought that
he was out for the season. A picture of him
says out for the season, and then he has posted

(02:17:30):
that on his own story that says coming soon stronger.
I'm not really sure what to take from that, should
I be? It seems very confusing. Yeah, look, I am
very confused.

Speaker 5 (02:17:45):
The whole scenario, or the whole way he's going about
trying to get back this season versus just calling it
a loss and coming back next year.

Speaker 4 (02:17:57):
Still worries me.

Speaker 5 (02:18:00):
Rich Plasma is going to speed him up and get
him ready for the postseason.

Speaker 6 (02:18:05):
I don't Again, the timeline for him to me is
actually no different than Josh's. I don't know it for sure,
and they've told us what it is, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:18:11):
Expect either one. I'm going to play for the Astros
this year playoffs or otherwise.

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among other matchups. And then before you know it, these
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We spent much of the day wondering what the initial
fifty three man roster for the Texans would look like
eleven days out plus from when they will start the
season against the Rams, which means there's plenty of time
for them to add sixteen players with the practice squad,
which for the most part, they will do tomorrow morning
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(02:24:42):
could be new injuries and the time they're practicing, But
what you see today is not likely to see to
be exactly what you will see when they make the
trip Saturday afternoon on the sixth to the Rams to
take on Matt Stafford. But based on what I've seen,
and the Texans have not yet posted anything on their
social or released anything to us via email as they

(02:25:03):
usually do, but I believe the fifty three man roster
has actually been posted, and it includes three quarterbacks as
we told you, Graham Mertz, Davis Smills, CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:25:12):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (02:25:13):
It includes only two tight ends, meaning no Harrison Bryant
and no IRV.

Speaker 4 (02:25:20):
Smith.

Speaker 6 (02:25:21):
Harrison Bryant, the player they traded for just a little
over a week ago at the Philadelphia Eagles. Doesn't mean
these players won't play for the Texans, just means it's
not on the initial fifty three Veteran players are eligible
for the practice squad. As many as six spots on
the practice squad can be get dedicated to veterans with
any number of years of experience. Those players can then

(02:25:41):
be elevated to the active roster. I don't think the
Texans entertain the idea, if they can avoid it, of
entering games with only two active tight ends, but there
are currently only two tight ends on their initial fifty
three man roster, Dalton Schultz and Cade Stover. The nine
offensive linemen very very easy to predict, and they are
nine that made it. I don't think there was much

(02:26:02):
to determine defensively either, except they did apparently initially keep
six linebackers, so Jake Hansen and Hill Jamal Hill both
make that initial list. They only have eight members of
the secondary, and one of them is CJ. Gardner Johnson
on the active roster. I don't know if that means
they think he'll be healthy for Game one, but it

(02:26:24):
obviously means they think he'll be healthier sooner than had
they put him on IR or a list designated to return.
That would be it where he would be forced to
miss the first four games of the season. Jalen Reed,
the other rookie in the secondary that's not Jalen Smith
who's on the roster, is going to IR, but designated
for return. Players that were on the pup list can

(02:26:44):
remain there, and that includes Tank Dell, Kurt Heinisch, and
Deniko Autry. They would be ineligible the first four weeks
of the season, but doesn't preclude them from any other
roster changes they want to make and obviously don't count
against the fifty three We told you. The Commissioner's exempt
list now includes Jimmy Ward, as the NFL came down
with that earlier today. Four players on IR recently signed

(02:27:08):
Juan Winfrey wide receiver IRV Smith apparently going to Irkunatay
Hamilton and Brevin Jordan obviously have been headed there since
their training camp injury. Unfortunately, Elijah Hussey was a player
they knew was hurt in the off season and expected
to carry him through the season. They will do that
either on the NFL list, where he currently is. If

(02:27:29):
they have to make a change, then he would go
to the injured list overall. But that's what their fifty
three man roster looks like. Four corners. Traymont Smith, who
is added in the offseason, is likely their kick returner
rookie Jalen Smith at a USC and your two starters
Derek Stingley Junior and Kamari Lassiter. Similarly, your safeties, you

(02:27:52):
only have four of them. Based on what I've seen
in games and at practice, maybe this season to Beans
and Matt Burke will have more opportunities to play a
true four to three, and their need for a safety
permanently in the slot or three safeties permanently on the
field will be less than it was last year.

Speaker 4 (02:28:14):
But unless CJ.

Speaker 6 (02:28:15):
Gardner Johnson is healthy for Week one, they only have
three safeties currently on the active roster, Block Petrie and
m J.

Speaker 4 (02:28:22):
Stewart.

Speaker 5 (02:28:22):
That was the question I was going to pose to you,
much like you you posed it to Mike Craven earlier.
The safety play for the Texans in twenty twenty five will.

Speaker 6 (02:28:31):
Be it'll be perfectly fine because I think they're so
good with block I think they're so good upfront playing
the Eric Murray position. From last year, they were fine.
Eric Murray got beat a few times by tight ends
and it was, oh my god, that looked awful. And
then he also came through with some plays like a
touchdown in the postseason against the Chargers. I guess the

(02:28:52):
best question would be, that's now m J. Stewart or
when healthy ce Day Gardner, Joss J.

Speaker 4 (02:28:58):
Gardner, Johnson, Yeah, I get so much of the season
he's healthy. Yeah yeah. Did he get hurt in the
Kansas City game too, remember prior to that.

Speaker 50 (02:29:07):
If I'm not mistaken, I guess I'm like, when the
postseason gets here and inevitably you're dinged up in some way,
shape or form.

Speaker 4 (02:29:15):
Like, I don't expect the defense to be.

Speaker 5 (02:29:17):
Completely healthy by that point of the year, but I
do expect them to obviously go to the postseason. Which
of these quarterbacks and we all know their names at
this point, and maybe you throw in Joe Burrows into
the mix as one that wasn't there last year, is
is most likely to hurt that exact position on the defense.

(02:29:38):
In other words, he's been able to get past everything else.

Speaker 4 (02:29:41):
That they're going to throw at you.

Speaker 6 (02:29:43):
Well, let's take the Kansas City game in the playoffs.
You were hurt by your safety play versus Kansas City
a couple of times because that assignment essentially turned into
your checking the tight end. And when Travis Kelsey was
in always space, he wasn't checked. It was not one
of Bullock's finest moments. This is the other end of it.
But you're only when your safeties are getting tested, when

(02:30:04):
your corners get beat and Jimmy Ward is nowhere to
be found, and he's ten more feet behind the play
and he can't offer the help that you need from
that safety back there. Now in run support, that's a
little different. Jimmy was very good at that. Others aren't.
The way they'll deploy them. How far back? Where will
block actually line up? Where to see j Gardner Johnson
fit in? Is Petrie exclusively a slot corner essentially? Who

(02:30:27):
is a safety? Will he be used in some exotic blitzes.
Will he be used less at the line? My answer
is no. I think it'll be used just as much,
if not more, at the line of scrimmage. But I
do think they have some options with how they run
their defense more than they had last year. But again,
this is today. They don't play a game today. They
don't play a game in a week. What I'm telling
you about today in the graphic you might see about

(02:30:49):
the fifty.

Speaker 4 (02:30:49):
It's gonna change for as soon.

Speaker 6 (02:30:51):
As I put it out because this is not what
they're They're not gonna go to the Rams game with
this out there. Seven wide receivers is what I expected.
It's not ideal. That's too many. You know, Barrios can
play wide receiver. I don't think he'll be asked to
because they're they have enough players in front of him,
and he's your punt returner. That makes some sense if
you're truly trying to weasel your way out of carrying

(02:31:13):
a third tight end permanently. Do you view Justin Watson
as a player who could do that. He never really
lined up there. He might have the body for it.
He's the biggest wide receiver that is not a pass
catcher like Nico. I would never ask Nico to do that,
but Watson's similar in size. You've kept British Brooks. I
think it's interesting what it looks like today. Again, I
just that's just not the way. It's not the best

(02:31:35):
way to do it. It's too many on game day,
you're not carrying sevens, you're carrying a player permanent. Every
single week, one of the seven is going to be inactive. Yeah,
if not more than one.

Speaker 5 (02:31:46):
Barrios is almost not strictly special teams, but well.

Speaker 6 (02:31:49):
He's strictly special teams because Christian Kirk shouldn't be off
the field too much, and when he is, Jalen Ol
will Bestian and then there's should be a third string slot.
Like on an other team, Barris would be the backup
slot receiver and he would be in offensive packages and
he'd get thirty five snaps in a game.

Speaker 4 (02:32:06):
But not on this roster. Yeah, no, they have it.

Speaker 5 (02:32:09):
They have presumably, you know, the the rookies performing in
their rookie year the way most highly touted rookies now
do in the NFL. In other words, the whole well,
he's a rookies. We can't really expect much from him
as a wide receiver in his rookie season.

Speaker 4 (02:32:25):
That's like, so.

Speaker 5 (02:32:27):
From the past way of thinking, they have an embarrassment
of riches at that.

Speaker 4 (02:32:32):
Yeah, and they're not.

Speaker 6 (02:32:33):
They're not like say the Chargers were last year with McConkie,
the Jaguars last year with Brian Thomas Junior clearly, the
Giants with Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 4 (02:32:41):
There's several others.

Speaker 6 (02:32:42):
Those guys didn't come in as the automatic top target.
And I think Lad McConkie came in as the automatic
top target for Herbert clearly. The other two did Jalen
Nol and Jayden Higgins come as the clear second player
at their.

Speaker 3 (02:33:26):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team.

Speaker 5 (02:33:38):
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(02:34:00):
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but the wait's a little bit longer.

Speaker 4 (02:34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:34:18):
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(02:34:40):
on AM thirteen hundred the Zone. You will join us
in half an hour, so very much looking forward to
that conversation. We spent much of the day wondering what
the initial fifty three man roster for the Texans would
look like eleven days out plus from when they will
start the season against the Rams, which means there's plenty
of time for them to add sixteen players with the
practice squad, which for the most part, they will do

(02:35:01):
tomorrow morning after eleven, and make any other necessary changes.
There also could be new injuries and the time they're practicing.
But what you see today is not likely to see
to be exactly what you will see when they make
the trip Saturday afternoon on the sixth to the Rams
to take on Matt Stafford. But based on what I've seen,

(02:35:21):
and the Texans have not yet posted anything on their
social or released anything to us via email as they
usually do, but I believe the fifty three man roster
has actually been posted and it includes three quarterbacks as
we told you Graham Mertz, Davis Mills, EJ.

Speaker 4 (02:35:36):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (02:35:37):
It includes only two tight ends, meaning no Harrison Bryant
and no IRV.

Speaker 4 (02:35:43):
Smith.

Speaker 6 (02:35:44):
Harrison Bryant, the player they traded for just a little
over a week ago at the Philadelphia Eagles. Doesn't mean
these players won't play for the Texans, just means it's
not on the initial fifty three. Veteran players are eligible
for the practice squad. As many as six spots on
the practice squad can be dedicated to veterans with any
number of years of experience. Those players can then be

(02:36:05):
elevated to the active roster. I don't think the Texans
entertain the idea, if they can avoid it, of entering
games with only two active tight ends, but there are
currently only two tight ends on their initial fifty three
man roster, Dalton Schultz and Cade Stover. The nine offensive
linemen very very easy to predict, and they are the
nine that made it. I don't think there was much

(02:36:26):
to determine defensively either, except they did apparently initially keep
six linebackers, so Jake Hansen and Hill Jamal Hill both
make that initial list. They only have eight members of
the secondary, and one of them is CJ. Gardner Johnson
on the active roster. I don't know if that means
they think he'll be healthy for Game one, but it

(02:36:47):
obviously means they think he'll be healthier sooner than had
they put him on IR or a list designated a return.
That would be it where he would be forced to
miss the first four games of the season. Jalen Reed,
the other rookie in the secondary that's not Jalen Smith
who's on the roster, is going to IR but designated
for return. Players that were on the pup list can

(02:37:08):
remain there, and that includes Tank Dell, Kurt Heinisch, and
Denico Autry. They would be ineligible the first four weeks
of the season, but doesn't preclude them from any other
roster changes they want to make and obviously don't count
against the.

Speaker 4 (02:37:20):
Fifty three We told you.

Speaker 6 (02:37:21):
The Commissioner's exempt list now includes Jimmy Ward as the
NFL came down with that earlier today. Four players on
ir recently signed Juan Winfree wide receiver IRV Smith apparently
going to Irkunatay Hamilton and Brevin Jordan obviously have been
headed there since their training camp injury. Unfortunately, Elijah Hussey

(02:37:45):
was a player they knew was hurt in the off
season and expected to carry him through the season. They
will do that either on the NFI list, where he
currently is. If they have to make a change, then
he would go to the injured list overall. But that's
what their fifty three man roster look like. Four corners.
Traymont Smith, who is added in the offseason is likely
their kick returner, rookie Jalen Smith at a USC and

(02:38:09):
your two starters Derek Stingley Junior and Kamari Lassiter. Similarly,
your safeties, you only have four of them. Based on
what I've seen in games and at practice, maybe this
season Demiko Ryans and Matt Burke will have more opportunities
to play a true four to three, and their need

(02:38:30):
for a safety permanently in the slot or three safeties
permanently on the field will be less than it was
last year. But unless CJ. Gardner Johnson is healthy for
Week one, they only have three safeties currently on the
active roster, Block Petrie and MJ.

Speaker 4 (02:38:45):
Stewart.

Speaker 5 (02:38:46):
That was the question I was going to pose to you,
the much like you you posed it to Mike Craven earlier.
The safety play for the Texans in twenty twenty five will.

Speaker 6 (02:38:55):
Be It'll be perfectly fine because I think they are
so good with Bullock. I think they're so good up
front playing the Eric Murray position.

Speaker 4 (02:39:05):
From last year, they were fine.

Speaker 6 (02:39:07):
Eric Murray got beat a few times by tight ends
and it was, oh my god, that looked awful. And
then he also came through with some plays like a
touchdown in the postseason against the Chargers. I guess the
best question would be, that's now m J. Stewart or
when healthy C. D.

Speaker 4 (02:39:20):
Gardner, J. Gardner Johnson. Yeah, I get.

Speaker 6 (02:39:23):
Petree missed so much of the season. He's healthy, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:39:26):
Did he get hurt in the Kansas City game toom
prior to that.

Speaker 50 (02:39:31):
If I'm not mistaken, I guess I'm like, when the
postseason gets here and inevitably you're dinged up in some way,
shape or form.

Speaker 5 (02:39:38):
Like, I don't expect the defense to be completely healthy
by that point of the year, but I do expect
them to obviously go to the postseason. Which of these quarterbacks,
and we all know their names at this point, and
maybe you throw in Joe Burrows into the mix as
one that wasn't there last year, is is most likely
to hurt that exact position on the defense. In other words,

(02:40:02):
he's been able to get past everything else.

Speaker 4 (02:40:05):
That they're going to throw at you.

Speaker 6 (02:40:06):
Well, let's take the Kansas City game in the playoffs.
You were hurt by your safety play versus Kansas City
a couple of times because that assignment essentially turned into
your checking the tight end. And when Travis Kelsey was
in always space, he wasn't checked. It was not one
of Bullock's finest moments. It was the other end of it.
But you're only when your safeties are getting tested, when

(02:40:28):
your corners get beat and Jimmy Ward is nowhere to
be found and he's ten more feet behind the play
and he can't offer the help that you need from
that safety back there. Now in run support, that's a
little different. Jimmy was very good at that. Others aren't.
The way they'll deploy them. How far back? Where will
block actually line up? Where to see j Gardner Johnson
fit In. Is Petrie exclusively a slot corner essentially? Who

(02:40:51):
is a safety? Will he be used in some exotic blitzes?
Will he be used less at the line? My answer
is no. I think it will be used just as
much about more at the line of scrimmage. But I
do think they have some options with how they run
their defense, more than they had last year.

Speaker 4 (02:41:05):
But again, this is today. They don't play a game today.
They don't play a game in a week.

Speaker 6 (02:41:10):
What I'm telling you about today in the graphic you
might see about the fifty. It's gonna change for as
soon as I put it out because this is not
what they're They're not going to go to the Rams
game with this out there. Seven wide receivers is what
I expected. It's not ideal. That's too many. You know,
Barrios can play wide receiver. I don't think he'll be
asked to because there they have enough players in front
of him, and he's your punt returner.

Speaker 4 (02:41:31):
That makes some sense if you're truly trying.

Speaker 6 (02:41:34):
To weasel your way out of carrying a third tight
end permanently. Do you view Justin Watson as a player
who could do that. He never really lined up there.
He might have the body for it. He's the biggest
wide receiver that is not a pass catcher like Nico.
I would never ask Nico to do that, but Watson's
similar in size. You've kept British Brooks. I think it's
interesting what it looks like today. Again, that's just not

(02:41:57):
the way. It's not the best way to do it.
It's too many. On game day, you're not carrying seven,
it's you're carrying a player permit. Every single week, one
of the seven is going to be inactive. Yeah, but
if not more than one. Barrios is almost not strictly
special teams. But well he's strictly special teams because Christian
Kirk shouldn't be off the field too much, and when

(02:42:17):
he is, Jalen Ol will be forkidding about Christian and
then there's should be.

Speaker 4 (02:42:21):
A third string slot.

Speaker 6 (02:42:23):
Like on another team, Barris would be the backup slot
receiver and he would be in offensive packages and you'd
get thirty five snaps in a game, but not on
this roster.

Speaker 4 (02:42:31):
Yeah, No, they have it.

Speaker 5 (02:42:33):
They have presumably, you know, the the rookies performing in
their rookie year the way most highly touted rookies now
do in the NFL. In other words, the whole Well,
he's a rookies. We can't really expect much from him
as a wide receiver in his rookie season.

Speaker 4 (02:42:48):
That's like so.

Speaker 5 (02:42:50):
From the past way of thinking, they have an embarrassment
of riches at that.

Speaker 4 (02:42:55):
Yeah, and they're not.

Speaker 6 (02:42:57):
They're not like say the Chargers were last year with mconkie,
the Jaguars last year with Brian Thomas Junior clearly, the
Giants with Malik Neighbors. There's several others. Those guys didn't
come in as the automatic top target. And I think
Lad McConkie came in as the automatic top target for
Herbert clearly. The other two did, Jalen Noel and Jaden

(02:43:17):
Higgins come as the clear second player at their respective position. Now,
in higgins case, they're gonna start two players at his position,
I would think they're gonna be a ton of looks
where Nico Jayden and Christian Kirk are all on the
field together. I think the very first snap of the season,
they're all gonna be on the field together, and maybe
for the bulk of a lot of the drives we
see to open the season.

Speaker 4 (02:43:36):
So it's a little bit different there.

Speaker 6 (02:43:38):
So I don't know that their numbers will show it,
and clearly I think they're capable of it. If Jaden
Higgins was drafted by a team like those players I
mentioned last year, he'd be out there on the field
for seventy five percent of the snaps right out of
the gate. Just probably doesn't happen here again at a
position where he truly is a I mean, it's a
little much to say it, but he's he. He'll play
football for this team the way Nico Collins plays football

(02:44:01):
for this team.

Speaker 5 (02:44:02):
I just can't get over the fact that the Texans
removed Stefon Diggs and Tank Dell put everybody else in
play that's there in addition to Nico Collins, and I
would have never thought, oh, they got better at that position,
and yet I feel that way.

Speaker 6 (02:44:16):
They used two reasonably high draft assets to get better.
They traded with a pick to get Christian Kirk. I
mean three of their top five receivers came this offseason
along with Hutch and Nico.

Speaker 4 (02:44:29):
They went after it. They tried to get better. They did.
They play in a very bad division, which helps. Yeah,
it looks that way.

Speaker 5 (02:44:39):
That is always there for you more often than not
in the AFC South these days. All right, we will
continue here in the five o'clock hour. Again a reminder
Craig Way, voice of the Longhorns, coming up at the
bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 6 (02:46:37):
Texans finally have released all the information I just told
you about last segment setting it out officially, how they've
handled their roster. Everything that we went through last segment
is accurate. Reserve PUP and reserve NFI for those players
we talked about mixing and huzzy reserve NFI, reserve PUP

(02:46:58):
for the three players that remained there that they didn't
change their designation on, that's Dell Autry and Kurt Heinisch.
They released Trent Brown off of the pupp list during preseason.

Speaker 4 (02:47:10):
That's where he was.

Speaker 6 (02:47:11):
He never got to practice from there, but there is
an expectation that he will be requested back on the
practice squad, and an expectation that is something he will accept.
He was very seen. I'll say that one thing about him.
He was around practice a lot. And I don't just
mean working out on the side. I mean in with
the offensive lineman on certain days of practice, and in

(02:47:33):
with the offensive lineman when they played their lone home game.
Not that it was you know, you had to or
it just was noticeable that he was around and obviously
well liked and trying to come back. He's played a
lot of football as much as anybody that's here. From
an offensive line standpoint, He's just been battling injuries for
such a great portion of his career and unfortunately the
most recent portion of his career, but definitely could be

(02:47:55):
somebody that could help them with their depth at tackle.
They kept for tackle Cam Robinson who was signed in
the off season, Titus Howard, who's a converted tackle to
guard to tackle to guard to tackle to guard to
tackle to guard. I'm not skipping he is a right
tackle currently. They kept tay Ersery, the forty eighth overall

(02:48:16):
pick in the draft, and the expectation again today is
believed to be he will be their starting left tackle,
and Blake Fisher Aaron Wilson was reporting that he's very
close to returning to practice ie they think he'd be
available if needed for Week one. But one of those
two tackles, Robinson or Fisher that's not starting, most likely
would be inactive for Week one. So I it's health related,

(02:48:38):
then it would be Fisher. If it's performance related, then
it would be Fisher. Scruggs and Patterson, as expected, are
the two reserve interior linemen, and Jake Andrews, ed Ingram
and Lake and Tomlinson, three newcomers to the Texans four
when you count Ursery. That's the expected opening lineup for

(02:48:58):
your opening game with your new offensive line and your
new offensive coordinator and your new offensive line coach against
one of the best pass rushing teams in the NFL
from twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (02:49:09):
Who on the defense in the last twenty four hours.
It was way way hyping up Ursary. Will Anderson, Yes,
that's what it was. I thought it was Will, but
I couldn't remember. I knew you would know, and I
don't have the exact quote in front of me, but
I do know this. He's a big fan, thinks very
highly of him, and look, i'd be a very welcome

(02:49:30):
and refreshing, pleasant surprise given what they've done at the
offensive line position, all five of them over the last
few seasons.

Speaker 12 (02:49:40):
C J.

Speaker 6 (02:49:41):
Stroud was, I told you this earlier and we'd get
to the sound, and we will do that now. I
made the rounds a little bit on the national media circuit,
doing a couple of interviews to help promote one of
the companies he was working with, and obviously he was
asked questions.

Speaker 4 (02:49:54):
This was on first take.

Speaker 6 (02:49:55):
He was asked a very very loud question by one
of the hosts, and it was isn't Mollie, And obviously
Chris doesn't ask questions of football players who might not
even have been there today about the other guy asked
him about their offensive line, and in the midst of
a long answer which I've split into two, CJ initially

(02:50:17):
spoke about what he feels about their new offensive line
in very positive terms and feels like they're they're good
to go, including a comment about that rookie to nursery.

Speaker 51 (02:50:25):
We brought in a lot of great pieces. Of course,
we know we traded Laramie, but I feel like we
brought in a rookie who is hungry, wants to get better,
is doing great in camp. Titus is back at tackle.
He looked great. So we got a lot of good pieces.
Man and verstatile when we're young.

Speaker 6 (02:50:45):
He continued, and that's when he said what people have
been saying, and I've been saying super loudly for a
long time. And now he's at a point that he
can't really help himself either about some of the changes
that were made that seems so obvious that they needed
to be made, even though they spent an entire year
or two not making them with their previous O. C.

Speaker 4 (02:51:06):
And previous offensive line coach.

Speaker 51 (02:51:08):
We have a new scheme. I think that's they had
to do a lot of it. They had to do
a lot with it.

Speaker 4 (02:51:13):
Last year.

Speaker 51 (02:51:13):
It was like we got to be able to get
rid of the ball, move the pocket and help those
guys out. Everything can just be drawback pass and we
play action, so that's running the ball, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:51:23):
So there's there's ways we.

Speaker 51 (02:51:24):
Can help those guys out. And by me, I gotta
do a better job of getting the ball out when when,
when it's necessary. So it's not just on name, it's
it's on me as well. So I think we're doing
a great job by saying that foundation in camping. I'm excited, man,
all linand is great.

Speaker 5 (02:51:38):
Far in the last part, I just can't. I can't
be with that old line was not great?

Speaker 4 (02:51:44):
Is great? I hope it is.

Speaker 5 (02:51:45):
He didn't say it was great, Okay, all right, I
have's heard him then, But still I'm skeptical. Far be
it from me to give them a free pass on
the evaluation side of the offensive line. But they do
know more than any of us what they have inside
that building.

Speaker 4 (02:52:05):
And if if they.

Speaker 5 (02:52:07):
Think that it's as simple as just changing the OC
and the offensive line coach and the scheme and everything else,
and that can offset not only the lack of talent,
but then also the most talented guy leaving in a
trade in Laramie Tunsil.

Speaker 4 (02:52:25):
Like I said, wait and see.

Speaker 5 (02:52:26):
But I'm just hearing that more than anything else from
guys like CJ and even Will Anderson saying what he's
saying about a rookie.

Speaker 4 (02:52:35):
It's all easy to say this stuff in August too.

Speaker 6 (02:52:37):
Well, I think they're going to be right about the rookie,
and I'm glad they're saying it because I think it's
going to be true. I don't know if it will
be true for seventeen games during his rookie season, and
I do think there may be real trouble spots where
they have to consider is this working for us? But
you know what CJ said there at the end about
helping them out, I've got to get rid of the football.
He's just talking about avoiding the lost yardage and maybe
avoiding the hits. He's not talking about operating the offense

(02:52:58):
and winning that part of he can do that will
prevent them from being second and seventeen, that might prevent
him from hurting his shoulder when he gets clobbered again
because he got rid of the football and the defensive
player pulled up. But operating the offense, that's what he
said right before that, We've got to do a better
job of moving the pocket and running a new scheme
like those are the things that they spent an entire

(02:53:20):
year not changing and watching it blow up in their
face almost every single week. It wasn't about the hits,
and it wasn't about the mistake. It was about you
couldn't operate the offense. You couldn't run your playbook, you
couldn't execute because there was no time to do so
because they were so out of sorts up front, And
that was their decision on how to fix it in

(02:53:40):
one year is make all those changes.

Speaker 4 (02:53:42):
I don't think Nick

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