August 15, 2025 • 13 mins
Michigan losing money, probations and their head coach for 2 games. It isn’t enough.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm wondering when somebody in Los Angeles is going to
ask Jim Harbaugh what he thinks of the Michigan findings today.
I have yet to hear any Jim Harbaugh's sound on
the results of what is a quite major penalty for
the University of Michigan. Among the personal penalties, Jim Harbaugh
(00:24):
has got a ten year.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Show cause.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Connor Stallion's the guy that did all the stealing of
the signs, He's got eight. Sharon Moore, who's already coaching
the team, gets two. He'll have to miss two games
this year, their opener in the game in Ireland. He
is going to get to coach the OU game. So
they kind of let him pick his voice. And as
to why, I guess he doesn't want to get on
a plane to Germany anyway, or he will go to
(00:50):
Germany and stay in the hotel room one of the two.
And so those are the are the personal costs they
are going to find the Wolverine football team fifty thousand
dollars plus a percent. I think it's twenty percent of
the athletic football budget.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Ten is it ten? Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So basically I'm just going to throw out here a number.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
My guess is is that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Michigan's total athletic budget is somewhere in the one hundred
and fifty hundred and sixty million dollar range.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Am I in the right ballpark there.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's ten percent of the football football budget postseason revenue
from twenty five to twenty six, and then there's another
ten percent of the scholarship awarded in twenty five to.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Twenty So basically they have to cut scholarships. Oh no, well,
it's it's but they can't get around that now because
there's really not scholarships.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There's roster spots, there's roster.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Limitations, and so you can give them all a partial
scholarship or some scholarship. I don't know how they're going
to get to that, but basically, let's say an athletic
department has one hundred and fifty million dollars total athletic budget.
That's all the expenses that they're going to have for
a year, and of that, football, say gets twenty five
million or maybe thirty million, Men's basketball probably gets ten
to twelve. Women's basketball is probably close to that and
(02:09):
maybe a little bit less, and then all the other
sports make up for the rest of it, and that
also includes the salaries and the travel expenses. All that's
created into a budget. So if football has got a
twenty five to thirty million dollar budget, they're going to
have to come up with two and a half to
three million dollars of that budget for a year to
pay the fine. Now, my question is is where does
(02:29):
this fine money go. The NCAA's not in the business
of collecting the fines, and the teams that were agreed
against were Big ten teams, so do they all get
to add it to their football budgets. There's been no
discussion as to where this money goes or what the
Big ten does. Maybe the Big ten just puts it in
his pocket and gives it to its employees. I have
(02:50):
no idea where they come.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Up with it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But here's here's the good in the battle about this.
I said a little earlier, I'm kind of sick and
tired of finding tea teams vacation of wins. No one cares.
Nobody even remembers that lot that you beat Indiana in
twenty twenty two or whatever the score was. Nobody remembers
your non conference games that you have to vacate all
(03:13):
of a sudden when you play in Northern Illinois and
you beat them fifty seven to three, and.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now you have to vacate the win.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Northern Illinois is not like given the check back, and
Northern Illinois doesn't care that they lost fifty seven to three.
They know what happened on the field. They know that
they didn't matter whether you stilt, were stealing signs or not,
that you were the better team. The other part of
this is is that Michigan is not only a breadwinner
for itself, it's a breadwinner for all of its other
teams in its leagues. And so when Michigan plays, it's
(03:41):
an opportunity for everybody else to make money because you
can guarantee that the game is going to be on
a more important television situation than if you were playing
somebody other than Michigan. The biggest concern that I heard
Godlee talking about this morning filling in for Dan Patrick,
was that it would hurt the their sports. It would
(04:01):
hurt the other sports like men's and women's golf, It
would hurt baseball, it would hurt softball, and they would
just take revenue from those budgets and move them back
over to football because a school like Michigan is never
going to let football or men's basketball suffer in the least.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't think Michigan has to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think Michigan can call the conference with all of
its boosters and say, listen, we just got slapped on the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Wrist for money.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We think the shortfall over the next couple of years
is going to be thirty five million dollars, and there's
enough people that are Michigan boosters that will offset that
with extra donations. You're talking about multimillionaires and possibly billionaires
that if they write a check for five to ten
million dollars, are never going to miss it. And their
phone number number is in the athletic director and president's phone,
(04:46):
so that anytime he needs to make a call or
they need an extra extra money, they're able to go
and get it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That takes us back to the NIL stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The reason why at some point in time we not
only have to have a salary cap on revenue share, well,
you have to have a salary cap on what's going
to happen with the NIL collectives. Because a school like
Michigan is always going to be able to have more
people that will donate to its program than say a
school like Rutgers or a school like Northwestern, or even
(05:16):
some of the smaller schools in some of the other
schools in the Big Ten, like Indiana or Illinois. Their
boosters aren't nearly as popular and as big and as
strong as as Michigans are, or they would have been
more successful in their getting players and winning games and
winning championships and conference championships and bowl games. So we
(05:36):
have got to get to a point to where everybody
in the league is paying the same and still it
will be difficult for some of the smaller budgeted schools
to get to that number. The show cause penalty, I
think is just stupid, because not that I think there's
a lot of teams that are going to shy away
from coaches. I don't think Connor Stallions is going to
be anywhere near a football field anytime soon, and I
(05:58):
would imagine that when Jim Harbaugh's done with the Chargers,
he'll retire, his career will be over. Basically, what I
understand the show caused to be is if I am
an athletic director or president and I want to hire
that guy to coach at my school, I've got to
have a hearing with somebody from the NCAA, and basically
it's kind of like a parole hearing. I'm sorry for
the things I've done. I'm a changed person. I'm remorseful
(06:22):
for everything I've done. Oh, by the way, please let
me coach again, whether or not they get that opportunity
to do so. I would imagine if the school wanted
Jim Harbaugh bad enough or anybody else badly enough, they
would be able to get that take care of. Charon
Moore is already the coach and they're not going to
have to fire him, but they're going to have to
discipline against him, so he doesn't get to be on
(06:43):
the sidelines for a couple of games this year in
one game next year. I don't think that matters a
whole lot, especially when you're playing the non conference opponents,
because the offense and defensive coordinators are calling the plays
and the formations and the situations. Anyway, where I do
think it matters is in some of the bigger games,
and like for example, Charon Moore is going to get
(07:03):
the opportunity to skill to still coach the.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Game at OU.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So this is a slap to Michigan to wake up
everybody else because Michigan will survive this, but there's a
lot of schools that if this happened to them and
they got a similar penalty, they would have a much
more difficult time saving it when there's not a lot
of revenue to be made in the first place. In
those places, when you have a school that's been around
(07:29):
for as long as Michigan, and you have a booster
club that has been around as long as that club
has been around, and that booster club is full of
people who have unlimited amounts of discretionary money and they
love doing nothing more than spending it on their football team,
and telling people that they spend on their football team,
and saying that they were able to help pay for
(07:50):
this player in that player, all of those things that
Michigan are going to never go away where they certainly
are never going to even be there in the first place,
at so many other schools.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So it did kind of set off.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
A little bit of a little bit of an earthquake
today in college football. I don't think Michigan's going to
suffer too much from this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But what it does kind of put out there is,
I mean, you kind of hit the nail on the
head a little bit for some of.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
The lower, lower.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Revenue income schools that aren't making By the way, Michigan's
football budget for the twenty four to twenty five season
with seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So son seven millionaire.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, so for for teams or schools like that, schools
like Texas, you know, Chains Tech of Text or Little Brother,
they're going to look at it as well. I mean,
we've got plenty of people we can buy that, We'll
write a check for it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There's plenty of people that will upset that seventy million
in fifteen minutes exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So that's why I don't like.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I wish the penalty would would have been a lot harsher.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But what what what are you gonna what's the penalty
going to be?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I know, I know they're not going to do especially
for the bigger names. We are not going to do
postseason bands anymore. There's no there isn't going to be anything.
We're not gonna do post season bands. So we're going
to do television. We're not gonna do television bands like
we used to. By the way, the athletic budget overall
at Michigan is two forty of which seventy two of
(09:28):
that is for football, and that that's basically every penny
that the school is going to spend in that. You know,
it used to be when I was in high school,
in college and even younger than that, the penalty was
you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Off TV for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But if, for example, back in the seventies, OHU was.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
On probation for two years because.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They've played an academically ineligible player for three plays in
a mop up game and the NCAA find them for
two years and they were not allowed to be on TV. Well,
back in the day, the only time that OU was
on TV is when they play Texas or Nebraska. Now
they're on TV every week. So you can't prevent them
from being on TV because that handicaps everybody else in
(10:11):
your league. If they can't be on TV, well you
can't be on TV either. And and so that's those
kind of penalties are never gonna be in that situation.
And I just don't know what you can do to
a blue blood program like Michigan that's gonna make them
have deterrent for things in the future. They'll keep their
hands cleaned for a while, but eight or ten years
(10:33):
from now, they're gonna see if they can sneak away
with something else, because what are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
We're in Michigan, We're bigger than you are, We're bigger
than the NCAA, and we're gonna make sure that we
get to we get what we want.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, the only thing I can think of is it
would be something along the lines of if they take
their their part of the revenue share and it said, Okay,
well you're gonna you're gonna have but fifty percent less.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Of that, and it's gonna go. Because I have not
been able to find I'm still scouring. I don't know
where the fines go.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No one does.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Doug Gottlieb was talking about that for an hour today.
He had no idea either. I have no clue where
these fines go on trying who collects the money from
the school after they generated?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, where does that coffer of money go? What is
it going towards?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But when you tug, you take Texas, you take Michigan,
you take Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia. These blue blad programs,
they have boosters, bankers, heads of state, celebrities. They've got
so much, so many resources. I mean, they love their
football program and they're not going to let it go south.
They're going to do whatever it is. And so seventy
(11:42):
million dollars they can make that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Up so quickly.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's kind of like when SMU joined the ACC and
they said, well, you're not going to get TV money
for nine years, that's fine, and a week later they
had one hundred million dollars so offset the TV money.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, Joe Olstein was like, we need help for SMU.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Did he go to you?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's in the area, isn't it. Joel Ostein is in Houston.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Same difference, close enough, same business city, same same yeah,
traffic issues, same traffic issues exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I mean, but they they have their oil money. I mean,
they probably got twenty oil wells cranking out one hundred,
one hundred thousand a month. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Uh yeah, I just I really wish I could figure
out where this money goes.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It goes into the ABYSS, somebody is going to have
to spend it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Maybe it goes towards the national debt. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean because at least, like when NBA players get fined,
we know where that money goes. It goes to NBA charities. Yeah,
it goes to NBA charities. I don't know where this
money goes, but nobody else does either. I mean, I
was listening to Doug today for thirty minutes and he
didn't know exactly he had any idea where the money goes.
You know where it goes, Andy, it's being handled by
top men top men. Yes, yes, Indiana Jones reference for
(12:59):
y'all top men.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, that means it's gonna That means it's gonna sit
in somebody else's bank.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Account for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
All right, that the Brian Flores lawsuit can roll on
as he wished. The courts said he can do that,
and Roger Goodell has to sit on the sideline. We'll
discuss what that's about next. It's the Andy average show
on the ticket
I'm wondering when somebody in Los Angeles is going to
ask Jim Harbaugh what he thinks of the Michigan findings today.
I have yet to hear any Jim Harbaugh's sound on
the results of what is a quite major penalty for
the University of Michigan. Among the personal penalties, Jim Harbaugh
(00:24):
has got a ten year.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Show cause.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Connor Stallion's the guy that did all the stealing of
the signs, He's got eight. Sharon Moore, who's already coaching
the team, gets two. He'll have to miss two games
this year, their opener in the game in Ireland. He
is going to get to coach the OU game. So
they kind of let him pick his voice. And as
to why, I guess he doesn't want to get on
a plane to Germany anyway, or he will go to
(00:50):
Germany and stay in the hotel room one of the two.
And so those are the are the personal costs they
are going to find the Wolverine football team fifty thousand
dollars plus a percent. I think it's twenty percent of
the athletic football budget.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Ten is it ten? Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So basically I'm just going to throw out here a number.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
My guess is is that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Michigan's total athletic budget is somewhere in the one hundred
and fifty hundred and sixty million dollar range.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Am I in the right ballpark there.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's ten percent of the football football budget postseason revenue
from twenty five to twenty six, and then there's another
ten percent of the scholarship awarded in twenty five to.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Twenty So basically they have to cut scholarships. Oh no, well,
it's it's but they can't get around that now because
there's really not scholarships.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There's roster spots, there's roster.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Limitations, and so you can give them all a partial
scholarship or some scholarship. I don't know how they're going
to get to that, but basically, let's say an athletic
department has one hundred and fifty million dollars total athletic budget.
That's all the expenses that they're going to have for
a year, and of that, football, say gets twenty five
million or maybe thirty million, Men's basketball probably gets ten
to twelve. Women's basketball is probably close to that and
(02:09):
maybe a little bit less, and then all the other
sports make up for the rest of it, and that
also includes the salaries and the travel expenses. All that's
created into a budget. So if football has got a
twenty five to thirty million dollar budget, they're going to
have to come up with two and a half to
three million dollars of that budget for a year to
pay the fine. Now, my question is is where does
(02:29):
this fine money go. The NCAA's not in the business
of collecting the fines, and the teams that were agreed
against were Big ten teams, so do they all get
to add it to their football budgets. There's been no
discussion as to where this money goes or what the
Big ten does. Maybe the Big ten just puts it in
his pocket and gives it to its employees. I have
(02:50):
no idea where they come.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Up with it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But here's here's the good in the battle about this.
I said a little earlier, I'm kind of sick and
tired of finding tea teams vacation of wins. No one cares.
Nobody even remembers that lot that you beat Indiana in
twenty twenty two or whatever the score was. Nobody remembers
your non conference games that you have to vacate all
(03:13):
of a sudden when you play in Northern Illinois and
you beat them fifty seven to three, and.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now you have to vacate the win.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Northern Illinois is not like given the check back, and
Northern Illinois doesn't care that they lost fifty seven to three.
They know what happened on the field. They know that
they didn't matter whether you stilt, were stealing signs or not,
that you were the better team. The other part of
this is is that Michigan is not only a breadwinner
for itself, it's a breadwinner for all of its other
teams in its leagues. And so when Michigan plays, it's
(03:41):
an opportunity for everybody else to make money because you
can guarantee that the game is going to be on
a more important television situation than if you were playing
somebody other than Michigan. The biggest concern that I heard
Godlee talking about this morning filling in for Dan Patrick,
was that it would hurt the their sports. It would
(04:01):
hurt the other sports like men's and women's golf, It
would hurt baseball, it would hurt softball, and they would
just take revenue from those budgets and move them back
over to football because a school like Michigan is never
going to let football or men's basketball suffer in the least.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't think Michigan has to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think Michigan can call the conference with all of
its boosters and say, listen, we just got slapped on the.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Wrist for money.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We think the shortfall over the next couple of years
is going to be thirty five million dollars, and there's
enough people that are Michigan boosters that will offset that
with extra donations. You're talking about multimillionaires and possibly billionaires
that if they write a check for five to ten
million dollars, are never going to miss it. And their
phone number number is in the athletic director and president's phone,
(04:46):
so that anytime he needs to make a call or
they need an extra extra money, they're able to go
and get it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That takes us back to the NIL stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The reason why at some point in time we not
only have to have a salary cap on revenue share, well,
you have to have a salary cap on what's going
to happen with the NIL collectives. Because a school like
Michigan is always going to be able to have more
people that will donate to its program than say a
school like Rutgers or a school like Northwestern, or even
(05:16):
some of the smaller schools in some of the other
schools in the Big Ten, like Indiana or Illinois. Their
boosters aren't nearly as popular and as big and as
strong as as Michigans are, or they would have been
more successful in their getting players and winning games and
winning championships and conference championships and bowl games. So we
(05:36):
have got to get to a point to where everybody
in the league is paying the same and still it
will be difficult for some of the smaller budgeted schools
to get to that number. The show cause penalty, I
think is just stupid, because not that I think there's
a lot of teams that are going to shy away
from coaches. I don't think Connor Stallions is going to
be anywhere near a football field anytime soon, and I
(05:58):
would imagine that when Jim Harbaugh's done with the Chargers,
he'll retire, his career will be over. Basically, what I
understand the show caused to be is if I am
an athletic director or president and I want to hire
that guy to coach at my school, I've got to
have a hearing with somebody from the NCAA, and basically
it's kind of like a parole hearing. I'm sorry for
the things I've done. I'm a changed person. I'm remorseful
(06:22):
for everything I've done. Oh, by the way, please let
me coach again, whether or not they get that opportunity
to do so. I would imagine if the school wanted
Jim Harbaugh bad enough or anybody else badly enough, they
would be able to get that take care of. Charon
Moore is already the coach and they're not going to
have to fire him, but they're going to have to
discipline against him, so he doesn't get to be on
(06:43):
the sidelines for a couple of games this year in
one game next year. I don't think that matters a
whole lot, especially when you're playing the non conference opponents,
because the offense and defensive coordinators are calling the plays
and the formations and the situations. Anyway, where I do
think it matters is in some of the bigger games,
and like for example, Charon Moore is going to get
(07:03):
the opportunity to skill to still coach the.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Game at OU.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So this is a slap to Michigan to wake up
everybody else because Michigan will survive this, but there's a
lot of schools that if this happened to them and
they got a similar penalty, they would have a much
more difficult time saving it when there's not a lot
of revenue to be made in the first place. In
those places, when you have a school that's been around
(07:29):
for as long as Michigan, and you have a booster
club that has been around as long as that club
has been around, and that booster club is full of
people who have unlimited amounts of discretionary money and they
love doing nothing more than spending it on their football team,
and telling people that they spend on their football team,
and saying that they were able to help pay for
(07:50):
this player in that player, all of those things that
Michigan are going to never go away where they certainly
are never going to even be there in the first place,
at so many other schools.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So it did kind of set off.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
A little bit of a little bit of an earthquake
today in college football. I don't think Michigan's going to
suffer too much from this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But what it does kind of put out there is,
I mean, you kind of hit the nail on the
head a little bit for some of.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
The lower, lower.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Revenue income schools that aren't making By the way, Michigan's
football budget for the twenty four to twenty five season
with seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So son seven millionaire.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, so for for teams or schools like that, schools
like Texas, you know, Chains Tech of Text or Little Brother,
they're going to look at it as well. I mean,
we've got plenty of people we can buy that, We'll
write a check for it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There's plenty of people that will upset that seventy million
in fifteen minutes exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So that's why I don't like.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I wish the penalty would would have been a lot harsher.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But what what what are you gonna what's the penalty
going to be?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I know, I know they're not going to do especially
for the bigger names. We are not going to do
postseason bands anymore. There's no there isn't going to be anything.
We're not gonna do post season bands. So we're going
to do television. We're not gonna do television bands like
we used to. By the way, the athletic budget overall
at Michigan is two forty of which seventy two of
(09:28):
that is for football, and that that's basically every penny
that the school is going to spend in that. You know,
it used to be when I was in high school,
in college and even younger than that, the penalty was
you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Off TV for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But if, for example, back in the seventies, OHU was.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
On probation for two years because.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They've played an academically ineligible player for three plays in
a mop up game and the NCAA find them for
two years and they were not allowed to be on TV. Well,
back in the day, the only time that OU was
on TV is when they play Texas or Nebraska. Now
they're on TV every week. So you can't prevent them
from being on TV because that handicaps everybody else in
(10:11):
your league. If they can't be on TV, well you
can't be on TV either. And and so that's those
kind of penalties are never gonna be in that situation.
And I just don't know what you can do to
a blue blood program like Michigan that's gonna make them
have deterrent for things in the future. They'll keep their
hands cleaned for a while, but eight or ten years
(10:33):
from now, they're gonna see if they can sneak away
with something else, because what are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
We're in Michigan, We're bigger than you are, We're bigger
than the NCAA, and we're gonna make sure that we
get to we get what we want.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, the only thing I can think of is it
would be something along the lines of if they take
their their part of the revenue share and it said, Okay,
well you're gonna you're gonna have but fifty percent less.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Of that, and it's gonna go. Because I have not
been able to find I'm still scouring. I don't know
where the fines go.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No one does.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Doug Gottlieb was talking about that for an hour today.
He had no idea either. I have no clue where
these fines go on trying who collects the money from
the school after they generated?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, where does that coffer of money go? What is
it going towards?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But when you tug, you take Texas, you take Michigan,
you take Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia. These blue blad programs,
they have boosters, bankers, heads of state, celebrities. They've got
so much, so many resources. I mean, they love their
football program and they're not going to let it go south.
They're going to do whatever it is. And so seventy
(11:42):
million dollars they can make that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Up so quickly.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's kind of like when SMU joined the ACC and
they said, well, you're not going to get TV money
for nine years, that's fine, and a week later they
had one hundred million dollars so offset the TV money.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, Joe Olstein was like, we need help for SMU.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Did he go to you?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's in the area, isn't it. Joel Ostein is in Houston.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Same difference, close enough, same business city, same same yeah,
traffic issues, same traffic issues exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I mean, but they they have their oil money. I mean,
they probably got twenty oil wells cranking out one hundred,
one hundred thousand a month. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Uh yeah, I just I really wish I could figure
out where this money goes.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It goes into the ABYSS, somebody is going to have
to spend it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Maybe it goes towards the national debt. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean because at least, like when NBA players get fined,
we know where that money goes. It goes to NBA charities. Yeah,
it goes to NBA charities. I don't know where this
money goes, but nobody else does either. I mean, I
was listening to Doug today for thirty minutes and he
didn't know exactly he had any idea where the money goes.
You know where it goes, Andy, it's being handled by
top men top men. Yes, yes, Indiana Jones reference for
(12:59):
y'all top men.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, that means it's gonna That means it's gonna sit
in somebody else's bank.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Account for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
All right, that the Brian Flores lawsuit can roll on
as he wished. The courts said he can do that,
and Roger Goodell has to sit on the sideline. We'll
discuss what that's about next. It's the Andy average show
on the ticket
Popular Podcasts
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!