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August 22, 2025 12 mins
Jerry Jones’s past history of ‘ruining a good thing’ is attached to personality.
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his Cowboys, the Jerry Jones dot com comentary on Netflix.
Very well done, and last night they got into the

(01:06):
Super Bowl loss to the forty nine ers in Barry
Switzer's first year, and I believe we're going to transition
into the next episode where they're going to win the
Super Bowl the next year against Pittsburgh in the Barry
Switzer win. A lot of things to take from this.
When Jerry Jones decided to fire Jimmy Johnson, it was

(01:29):
because they were at odds as to who should do what.
And originally, the Jimmy Johnson agreement that he had with
Jerry Jones, the handshake deal that Jerry believes all deals
should be, is you go run the numbers, I'll go
coach the football team. And Jimmy Johnson flat out told somebody,
I don't think that Jerry Jones knows as much about

(01:50):
football as I do, because when we left Arkansas, he
went to the oil fields and made billions of dollars
and I went to go coaching, and I've been calling
more plays, and I've been in the trenches with players
at various places including Oklahoma State and Miami and now
coaching the Cowboys. He doesn't recognize what I recognize, and
I don't recognize how to go in the oil field

(02:12):
to make a billion dollars. And so that was Jimmy's avenue,
that was Jimmy's path to all of this. Jerry was
using the opportunity of Jerry did want to be poor,
like coaches are poor for a while until they get
a job. So my guess is Jimmy Johnson when he

(02:33):
left Arkansas until he got the Oklahoma State job, wasn't
making very much money and probably wasn't making a lot
at Oklahoma State in the late seventies and early eighties,
and then went to Miami and got paid a little
bit more and then got his first bag. Anyway, when
he coached the Dallas Cowboys at whatever level that was so,
and certainly it's not the same numbers that they get today,

(02:54):
but it was aproposa the times back then. So Jimmy
did not respect Jerry. Joe owns his football acumen. He
did respect his business acumen, and Jimmy didn't want to
be a business person. He wanted to be a football coach.
And so they were two different people in that room.
And that's where we know the friction is. And this
has been going on since Barry Switzer left in the

(03:16):
last Super Bowl in nineteen ninety six, that Jerry wants
to win on his terms, where people give him credit
for understanding that he is a general manager, that he
is a team president, and he thinks he could probably
call plays for the team from time to time, and
so that was kind of an interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Part of that.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
When he went home that night and they had the
press conference that everybody kind of knew that he was
going to fire Jimmy, he told a story that he's
getting ready to go to bed and his wife's laying
in their bed and says, you just can't accept success
whenever everything's going good. He had just won two Super Bowls.

(03:55):
You're on top of the world, but you got to
screw it up and change it to fix what's not broken.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And Jerry was like, you're spot on. That's who I am.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
If I'm not comfortable, unless I'm uncomfortable, and he made uncomfortableness.
And there was a situation where they were at the
owner's meetings and a lot of the coaches were sitting
around the table and Jerry was at another table and
kind of toasted them from afar and Jimmy didn't bring

(04:25):
didn't pick up his glass, and that was it. Jimmy
felt like he had been usurped, that he had been upstage,
and that was a few weeks later.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
He was fired, all right.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
The other part of this last segment of the documentary was.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Talking about getting the.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Getting the NFL to Fox, and he talked about having
a business interest in a television station in Little Rock
back in the sixties or seventies, and that they paid
a lot of money to Syndacre eight the I Love
Lucy rerunch when they were available in syndication, and the
price was pretty high and they could never sell advertising

(05:09):
to offset the costs. And so Jerry asked the station manager,
why are we doing this if we can't sell it
at the level to where we can make money at it,
And he said, because we're going to run it at
five thirty so that when it goes into our news
program and to the national news program where we can
sell a lot of advertising for a premium price. We've

(05:30):
got to build an audience. It's going to boost our ratings.
It's what the networks refer to. Our television works looks
at as a loss leader. The program's not going to
make you money, but the fact that people are watching
it is going to create the opportunity to make more
money with the next program that comes on. And in
the early nineties, Fox Television was only in about thirty

(05:51):
thirty five percent of the markets in the nation. It
was still a very fledgling network, and so Rupert Mao Murdoch,
being very very wealthy, called Jerry Jones and said, I
want to be in the NFL. I want to outbid
CBS for this next negotiation, and I'm going to make
an offer that's so ridiculous that there's no way you
can tell me no. And Jerry said, if your money

(06:13):
is if your bid is higher than CBS's, I'm going
to sit in that meeting until the day is over
and then some to make sure that we get that deal.
Because the NFL is a cash register that needs to
be tapped and the old guard of owners doesn't realize
what we have and how we can make money. And
so Rupert Murdock and him had a meeting. He said,

(06:36):
what's your bid going to be? In Rupert murca, he said,
how about one point six billion dollars? And about that
time Jerry's mouth hit the floor and said, yeah, I
think we can get this deal done. And the following year,
the Fox did its first season of football. And I
don't think Fox sold one point six billion dollars worth
of advertising in the NFL games, but what it did

(06:58):
give them is the opportunities spanned in ninety five ninety
six percent of the nation, to be in all the
major markets, and shortly thereafter to be in one hundred
percent of the markets and also sell its other programming
around football at a premium price because there was a
building audience that was watching whatever was before or after football.

(07:19):
So Jimmy and Robert Murdoch got got the NFL on
Fox and that was pretty fascinating there. And the last
part of that to take I'll make on that was
Michael Irvin. Michael Irvin may be one of the most
competitive people of all time. People see the flamboyance in
Michael Irvin. People see the dramatic life that I think

(07:45):
he led at times, and maybe the dangerous life he
led at times, but none of that ever got in
the way of football. And the way that Michael Irvan
has been portrayed in this and the words that he
uses and the passion that he has when he talks
about stuff, you can tell that nothing mattered to him
but winning. Yes, I'm gonna go party as hard as

(08:06):
I played after the game, and then I'm gonna go
probably probably party again the next night, and We're gonna
do a lot of things that are living on the edge,
but I will always be ready on game day.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
He talked about the loss to San Francisco when Deon
Sanders interfered with him and it wasn't called, or at
least the Cowboys think he was interfered with and it
wasn't called, and playing against Eon, how hard it was.
And then the next year they're gonna get Deon and
they're gonna win a Super Bowl with him with the Cowboys.
So I encourage everybody to watch it. I think it's
really good and it kind of gets you back into
the into the memories of that. It's just too bad

(08:42):
that the Cowboys have not been able to be more
competitive in the postseason in the last thirty plus.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Years, and you've fallen into the trap. I don't care.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
That documentary could be about Jerry Jones if he was
coaching somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, but he even said at the start, at the
at the start of the documentary that the cow Boys
are soap opera. But all that's doing is adding more.
Is good for him, is bad for the fans. And
if and if people like us, and I'm saying us,
you and me or anyone elseho's listening. If we keep
watching his stuff, we keep buying into it, If we
keep like doing exactly what he wants, all he's going

(09:17):
to do is justify what he is doing, and the
Cowboys will go nowhere. It is more and more lateral moves,
which only increases his head.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't think that's ever going to change as long
as Cherry owns the team.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't care whether you watch the team, or if
you if you watch the series or don't watch the series,
if you buy a ticket to a Cowboy game or don't,
you don't watch the games when they're playing, or you do,
you root for them or you don't root for them.
It doesn't matter what you do. Jerry's not selling. You
could offer Jerry a trillion dollars and he wouldn't sell
the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's who that's what he is, that's what his deal is.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And what Steven and the rest of his kids do
with the team when he's no longer around, that's up
to them. He's not going to be here to stop
them or to change change them. He probably knows what
they're going to do, and they probably told them what
they plan to do, and no one's ever going to
know until they actually are become owners of the team
and do it hopefully hire a GM well hopefully yes,
and hopefully have a football operations people. But Stevens probably

(10:13):
learned a lot about the business operation of the team,
and from a business standpoint and a marketing standpoint, they're
pretty good at doing those kind of things. It's but
I don't think that whether I watch Netflix and talk
about it or not or don't, it's going to change
what Jerry does. This is Jerry's deal, and we know
what and he may luck into a super Bowl in
the next year or two. I don't think they're a

(10:35):
super Bowl team yet, but let's let's find Let's let's
see if Jane Blue turns out to be you know,
probably not em At Smith, but maybe DeMarco Murray. Let's
see if the guys that perkinscerns out to be a
really good second Pickins turns out to be a good
second to a second choice to Ceedee Lamb. Let's see
if they signed Mike and he has twenty five sacks

(10:56):
this year. A lot of things could happen that probably won't,
but if they do, then then Jerry's finally going to
get the super Bowl he's been looking for for going
on thirty years.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
He's got three.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
He's complacent, and now he wants to make the fans
miserable until he's gone.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't think he's complacent.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think I don't think complacency means you sat on
your rear end do nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
He's always doing something. He's doing the same things over
and over again. But well, he's doing whatever say wants
to do.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Because, like you said in that clip we played an
hour ago, two people have to be satisfied with this.
It's me and Micah. There isn't room for a third.
The agent can't get involved. Yeah, well sorry, the agent's
going to get involved. A third person's going to have
to be okay with this because they're making sure that
you don't pull a fast one over over his client
and the NFL Players Association.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
So the agent's got to get involved.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
But Jerry has always said, this is my team, it's
my money, it's my checkbook. I'll do whatever I want
and if you don't like it, too bad, And that's
what Jerry's doing right now. But there's no question in
my mind that be But I will be one thousand
percent surprised if Mica doesn't have an extension before the
Philadelphia game in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I think I think it's it's going to go into
next offseason.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I think it's going to be done in ten days
or our thirteen days. Gentleman's bet. Sure, cool, yep, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
We'll talk about Malik Beasley, we'll talk about a couple
other things. And the Tour Championship is through thirty six holes.
That's coming up on the ticket.
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