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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I think Kevin Durant is one of the most iconic
place players of the last I don't know, fifteen years,
however long he's been playing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He was good at Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He's been even greater in the NBA with whatever team
he's been playing for. But Kevin Durant, for whatever reason,
plays with an inferiority complex. And I don't know why
he allows people to bother him that he shouldn't allow
people to bother them. I was I saw this video today.
(00:41):
Joe Missoula was asked this question, and the question was
that Jason Tatum has to deal with the pressure of
being Jason Tatum, and he interrupted the interviewer and said, no,
Jason Tatum gets to handle the notoriety that comes with
being a great player. If your expectation is low, nobody cares.
(01:05):
Fans don't care, media people don't care. If Peyton Pritchard
has a bad game for the Celtics tonight, okay, well
he's a backup. If if al Horford has a bad
game for the Celtics tonight, okay, he's a backup. But
if Jalen Brown plays poorly, or if Jason Tatum was
playing and he wasn't injured or holiday, or somebody that's
supposed to be good has a bad game, then then
(01:29):
they're going to get criticized by the fans, by the media,
by talk show pundits, whatever. And Kevin Durant is that player.
He has earned the right to have to play under
privilege because in the last fifteen to sixteen years of
his career he is as good a player as there
is in the league when he's healthy. He had in
Oklahoma City, he was in the shadow, or at least
(01:50):
he thought he was in the shadow of Harden and Westbrook,
although he was clearly the best player of those three
and still is.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And when he.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Went to Golden Well, you played with Steph, so that
was that I want to go on my own and win. Well,
you get to New Jersey and realize you can't, so
you recruit Kyrie, and then Harden and Ben Simmons come
in here and mess things up. Well, I want to
go somewhere else. Now you're in Phoenix, Well, you don't
have a point guard, and you've got two guys that
want the basketball as well, with Booker and Beale, and
(02:20):
you still can't figure out a way to get it done.
But you want to play there because you like living there.
But still, Kevin Durant's a great player. Nobody ever does
this by themselves. It takes a team effort to win
a basketball game. There's very seldom as one player ever
been so good at something that they're the reason why
that team wins. So the catalyst is to why that
(02:40):
team wins. But even Michael Jordan didn't win without Scottie
Pippen and Steve Kerr and guys like that. And Bill
Cartwright may have had an awkward shot, but he was
still pretty important to the success of the Bulls. So
Emmanuel Acho, the other one that used to play for Texas,
said something the other day, a guess on one of
the player forms that he has or whatever. I guess
(03:02):
see at Sam's at Fox. I think Emmanuel's at ESPN, right.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
No flip flop, Amnuels with Emmanuels with Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
He's on the facility with.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh My, Chase Daniels, Lashawn McCoy, and Art Scott.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I believe so Acho says something along this on a tweet.
The Celtics match up better against the Knicks without Jason
Tatum than they do with him. Give me two minutes
to show you something that you may have missed, and
I'll convince you exactly why, all right, when when somebody
does that, listen, the Celtics are not better off without
without Jason Tatum, unless Jason Tatum just has a terrible game,
(03:42):
and sometimes he does because he's a little bit inconsistent,
as some stars sometimes are. But that you can show
me all the highlights in the world that if I
put this lineup on the floor while Jason Tatum's on
the bench for eight minutes, that this lineup has this
analytics and all this kind of stuff, and all it
is is to fill time and to fill up their
show and to give you fodder as to why the
(04:04):
Celtics have a fighting chance against the Knicks or Indiana
or any of the teams that come out of the West,
you know, based on the fact that they're now without
Jason Tatum. So it's a feature piece. Kevin Durant has
to reply, hot take artists have ruined the sport football guys,
(04:25):
no disrespect, but y'all boys need to stay in your lanes.
You don't know what it's like between these lines. It
give me a break. Dudes who quit football early to
pursue media talking mental toughness.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Cut it out.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I didn't even care what Manuelacho had to say or
how he justified what he said. And Kevin Durant fully knows,
as Emmanuelacho knows, as everybody else knows, that the Celtics
are not better off without one of the top twelve
thirteen players or ever you want to rank Jason Tatum
in the league. He's probably going to be fourth or
fifth and MVP voting this year. But why do you
(05:01):
have to reply to this? Leave it alone. All you're
doing is creating fodder so that we can have talk
show discussion about it. And you come across as a
little bit of a whiner that is so sensitive that
you just can't deal with the fact that somebody's criticizing
your sport that didn't play your sport. Guess what, they're
retired basketball players and sometimes criticized football players. There are
(05:24):
retired baseball players who are put on ESPN or TV
and our sports talk hosts or whatever that have opinions
about other sports. And sometimes those sports have similar things,
and sometimes they're completely different sports. Obviously, football is way
more physical than the other sports are. But this is
(05:47):
what Kevin Durant has always done, and it's the sensitivity.
I go back to his Oklahoma City days when he
had a fake Twitter account so that he could respond
to those who are critical of the real Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't understand why you care.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
If you're going to be in the public eye and
if you're going to be one of the best at
what you do and you fail to be your best
on certain days, especially in clutch situations, you're going to
be called out. You're going to be asked to answer
for the reasons. And sometimes it's just because we had
a bad day. Sometimes it's just because I missed it
was anything I ate for breakfast. It didn't get up
(06:24):
on the wrong side of the bed. I just shot
the same shot I always do and I didn't get
it to go in. But I continue to have to
see Kevin Durant's mindset. I guess you will uh and
his legacy as a player kind of be a little
bit different because I don't know that Lebron would do this.
(06:45):
I mean, maybe Lebron would, but Kobe Bryant never would,
Michael Jordan would. They didn't necessarily live that much in
the Twitter world. Kobe did, Michael didn't. But in order
to in order to have the have the respect of
the greats of all time, I just don't think that
Kevin Durant should be concerned about what other people think
(07:08):
so much.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And this is also apparently off of something that Asia Wilson,
the absolute stud that that she is in the w NBA,
that she was kind of criticized about talking that she
doesn't think that reporters, unless you either played that sport
(07:29):
or played a sport, you shouldn't be allowed to criticize
anything league.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And if Asia Wilson wants to go down that road,
then I don't think anybody that's ever played the game
should do a broadcast because unless they have somebody actually
asking them questions and setting them up, they don't know
how to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I could go a step further and not that we
like to be political on here, but if you're not,
if you are not a politician or have worked in
the government at that point, then you don't need to
be saying political takes.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's what's the difference Wilson. Asia.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Asia Wilson's comments on that are crazy, because yes, you can,
you can have expert opinions on things, but how you're
going to direct those to an audience and keep that
audience interested. It goes back to what I've always said
was a disaster in TV when well whoever it was Turner,
ESPN had the Player's Only broadcast a few years ago.
(08:22):
Those were it was terrible television. You had no idea
who had the ball, who what team was winning. It
was just random discussion on the games. And I understand
that every It's the same thing with the NBA on NBC.
They got Michael Jordan contributor, Vince Carter contributor. They're going
to pay thirty guys a whole bunch of money that
three or four guys could say in a little bit
(08:44):
less time, and you have to have some kind of
you have to have some kind of direction on where
you're going with your broadcasts. So yeah, there's always going
to be talk show hosts that don't know the whole
story or have it lived in your shoes, But that
isn't mean that they can't be expert it's about it,
and it also doesn't mean that you can't be educated
about it. When Bill Schoning retired and we got him
(09:05):
on the radio, one of the questions And one of
the discussion points that I asked him about was, you're
he's going to go into consulting young broadcasters on becoming
veteran broadcasters like himself, And I said, the one thing
that I always believe the most in is that if
even if you're not a former athlete that's trying to
do play by play or trying to be a talk
(09:28):
show host, is to educate yourself as much as you
can on basketball knowledge, not just you know, trivia and history,
but why things work, why things don't work, and pay
attention to the to the people that comment on games,
whether it's somebody you like or don't like, if it's
Reggie Miller or it's Stan Van Gundy or whoever it is,
(09:49):
listen to what they say because you can learn things
from that. And just because a sports fan or a
sports talk host or somebody that never played the game
has a comment, it's okay to UH to redirect them
and give them a reason why they're wrong, But it
doesn't tell you that they shouldn't be talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know any type of any
type of sports skill that maybe al Michael's ever had,
but you know al Michaels called one of the greatest
calls of all times.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, Lake Placid.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
There's a handful of athletes that have transitioned from being
in their sport to actually being a better broadcaster than
they were in their sport. Pat summer All, but Pat
summer All was a kicker for the Giants in the
fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was the Cardinals, I know it was. It was
he was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He was in New York with the Giants and he uh,
he went to work in the summertime because back then
you couldn't make a living playing in the NFL. So
his job in the winter, in the in the off
season was to do the updates on w CBS, and
that's how he got a job. And he was I
don't know how I would rank him as a kicker.
I never got to see him play, but Pat summer
(11:04):
All was. His profession was broadcaster. His notoriety was football
and and Frank Gifford. Although I never thought he was
a good broadcaster, was did the same thing. He played
football in New York and transitioned into becoming a broadcaster.
So uh, anyway, Yeah, Asia Wilson, I love your game.
But you're wrong on that, on that stat.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, and you look at Mike, Mike Trico or you
would be able to tell me this Vern Lundquist. Vern
Lundquist have any sports expertise.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And he played I guarantee that he played golf well
it probably played it. I don't know how well he
played it, but I would imagine Vern Lunquist spent a
lot of time with Tom Landry and text ran back
in the day. I learned a lot about football. Yeah,
I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But it's just this whole notion that well, if you've
never played, you don't deserve or you your.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Opinion shouldn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You've talked about it several times for for podcasters. When
clearly you think that, hey, you're going to be the
next great thing, and it comes to find out you
can't jump more than two inches off the ground. What's
the best or an easiest way for me to at
least be able to be close enough to experience it.
You get to do play by play, or you get
(12:16):
to be within the organization, and that's how you live
your dream of being at least within that sport.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, coming up, we've got the WNBA
season starting we've got the Preakness tomorrow and we've got
the NFL meetings coming up. We'll get to that in
the next a few minutes as well. It's five forty
seven on the ticket.
I think Kevin Durant is one of the most iconic
place players of the last I don't know, fifteen years,
however long he's been playing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He was good at Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He's been even greater in the NBA with whatever team
he's been playing for. But Kevin Durant, for whatever reason,
plays with an inferiority complex. And I don't know why
he allows people to bother him that he shouldn't allow
people to bother them. I was I saw this video today.
(00:41):
Joe Missoula was asked this question, and the question was
that Jason Tatum has to deal with the pressure of
being Jason Tatum, and he interrupted the interviewer and said, no,
Jason Tatum gets to handle the notoriety that comes with
being a great player. If your expectation is low, nobody cares.
(01:05):
Fans don't care, media people don't care. If Peyton Pritchard
has a bad game for the Celtics tonight, okay, well
he's a backup. If if al Horford has a bad
game for the Celtics tonight, okay, he's a backup. But
if Jalen Brown plays poorly, or if Jason Tatum was
playing and he wasn't injured or holiday, or somebody that's
supposed to be good has a bad game, then then
(01:29):
they're going to get criticized by the fans, by the media,
by talk show pundits, whatever. And Kevin Durant is that player.
He has earned the right to have to play under
privilege because in the last fifteen to sixteen years of
his career he is as good a player as there
is in the league when he's healthy. He had in
Oklahoma City, he was in the shadow, or at least
(01:50):
he thought he was in the shadow of Harden and Westbrook,
although he was clearly the best player of those three
and still is.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And when he.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Went to Golden Well, you played with Steph, so that
was that I want to go on my own and win. Well,
you get to New Jersey and realize you can't, so
you recruit Kyrie, and then Harden and Ben Simmons come
in here and mess things up. Well, I want to
go somewhere else. Now you're in Phoenix, Well, you don't
have a point guard, and you've got two guys that
want the basketball as well, with Booker and Beale, and
(02:20):
you still can't figure out a way to get it done.
But you want to play there because you like living there.
But still, Kevin Durant's a great player. Nobody ever does
this by themselves. It takes a team effort to win
a basketball game. There's very seldom as one player ever
been so good at something that they're the reason why
that team wins. So the catalyst is to why that
(02:40):
team wins. But even Michael Jordan didn't win without Scottie
Pippen and Steve Kerr and guys like that. And Bill
Cartwright may have had an awkward shot, but he was
still pretty important to the success of the Bulls. So
Emmanuel Acho, the other one that used to play for Texas,
said something the other day, a guess on one of
the player forms that he has or whatever. I guess
(03:02):
see at Sam's at Fox. I think Emmanuel's at ESPN, right.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
No flip flop, Amnuels with Emmanuels with Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
He's on the facility with.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh My, Chase Daniels, Lashawn McCoy, and Art Scott.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I believe so Acho says something along this on a tweet.
The Celtics match up better against the Knicks without Jason
Tatum than they do with him. Give me two minutes
to show you something that you may have missed, and
I'll convince you exactly why, all right, when when somebody
does that, listen, the Celtics are not better off without
without Jason Tatum, unless Jason Tatum just has a terrible game,
(03:42):
and sometimes he does because he's a little bit inconsistent,
as some stars sometimes are. But that you can show
me all the highlights in the world that if I
put this lineup on the floor while Jason Tatum's on
the bench for eight minutes, that this lineup has this
analytics and all this kind of stuff, and all it
is is to fill time and to fill up their
show and to give you fodder as to why the
(04:04):
Celtics have a fighting chance against the Knicks or Indiana
or any of the teams that come out of the West,
you know, based on the fact that they're now without
Jason Tatum. So it's a feature piece. Kevin Durant has
to reply, hot take artists have ruined the sport football guys,
(04:25):
no disrespect, but y'all boys need to stay in your lanes.
You don't know what it's like between these lines. It
give me a break. Dudes who quit football early to
pursue media talking mental toughness.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Cut it out.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I didn't even care what Manuelacho had to say or
how he justified what he said. And Kevin Durant fully knows,
as Emmanuelacho knows, as everybody else knows, that the Celtics
are not better off without one of the top twelve
thirteen players or ever you want to rank Jason Tatum
in the league. He's probably going to be fourth or
fifth and MVP voting this year. But why do you
(05:01):
have to reply to this? Leave it alone. All you're
doing is creating fodder so that we can have talk
show discussion about it. And you come across as a
little bit of a whiner that is so sensitive that
you just can't deal with the fact that somebody's criticizing
your sport that didn't play your sport. Guess what, they're
retired basketball players and sometimes criticized football players. There are
(05:24):
retired baseball players who are put on ESPN or TV
and our sports talk hosts or whatever that have opinions
about other sports. And sometimes those sports have similar things,
and sometimes they're completely different sports. Obviously, football is way
more physical than the other sports are. But this is
(05:47):
what Kevin Durant has always done, and it's the sensitivity.
I go back to his Oklahoma City days when he
had a fake Twitter account so that he could respond
to those who are critical of the real Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't understand why you care.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
If you're going to be in the public eye and
if you're going to be one of the best at
what you do and you fail to be your best
on certain days, especially in clutch situations, you're going to
be called out. You're going to be asked to answer
for the reasons. And sometimes it's just because we had
a bad day. Sometimes it's just because I missed it
was anything I ate for breakfast. It didn't get up
(06:24):
on the wrong side of the bed. I just shot
the same shot I always do and I didn't get
it to go in. But I continue to have to
see Kevin Durant's mindset. I guess you will uh and
his legacy as a player kind of be a little
bit different because I don't know that Lebron would do this.
(06:45):
I mean, maybe Lebron would, but Kobe Bryant never would,
Michael Jordan would. They didn't necessarily live that much in
the Twitter world. Kobe did, Michael didn't. But in order
to in order to have the have the respect of
the greats of all time, I just don't think that
Kevin Durant should be concerned about what other people think
(07:08):
so much.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And this is also apparently off of something that Asia Wilson,
the absolute stud that that she is in the w NBA,
that she was kind of criticized about talking that she
doesn't think that reporters, unless you either played that sport
(07:29):
or played a sport, you shouldn't be allowed to criticize
anything league.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And if Asia Wilson wants to go down that road,
then I don't think anybody that's ever played the game
should do a broadcast because unless they have somebody actually
asking them questions and setting them up, they don't know
how to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I could go a step further and not that we
like to be political on here, but if you're not,
if you are not a politician or have worked in
the government at that point, then you don't need to
be saying political takes.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's what's the difference Wilson. Asia.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Asia Wilson's comments on that are crazy, because yes, you can,
you can have expert opinions on things, but how you're
going to direct those to an audience and keep that
audience interested. It goes back to what I've always said
was a disaster in TV when well whoever it was Turner,
ESPN had the Player's Only broadcast a few years ago.
(08:22):
Those were it was terrible television. You had no idea
who had the ball, who what team was winning. It
was just random discussion on the games. And I understand
that every It's the same thing with the NBA on NBC.
They got Michael Jordan contributor, Vince Carter contributor. They're going
to pay thirty guys a whole bunch of money that
three or four guys could say in a little bit
(08:44):
less time, and you have to have some kind of
you have to have some kind of direction on where
you're going with your broadcasts. So yeah, there's always going
to be talk show hosts that don't know the whole
story or have it lived in your shoes, But that
isn't mean that they can't be expert it's about it,
and it also doesn't mean that you can't be educated
about it. When Bill Schoning retired and we got him
(09:05):
on the radio, one of the questions And one of
the discussion points that I asked him about was, you're
he's going to go into consulting young broadcasters on becoming
veteran broadcasters like himself, And I said, the one thing
that I always believe the most in is that if
even if you're not a former athlete that's trying to
do play by play or trying to be a talk
(09:28):
show host, is to educate yourself as much as you
can on basketball knowledge, not just you know, trivia and history,
but why things work, why things don't work, and pay
attention to the to the people that comment on games,
whether it's somebody you like or don't like, if it's
Reggie Miller or it's Stan Van Gundy or whoever it is,
(09:49):
listen to what they say because you can learn things
from that. And just because a sports fan or a
sports talk host or somebody that never played the game
has a comment, it's okay to UH to redirect them
and give them a reason why they're wrong, But it
doesn't tell you that they shouldn't be talking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know any type of any
type of sports skill that maybe al Michael's ever had,
but you know al Michaels called one of the greatest
calls of all times.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, Lake Placid.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
There's a handful of athletes that have transitioned from being
in their sport to actually being a better broadcaster than
they were in their sport. Pat summer All, but Pat
summer All was a kicker for the Giants in the
fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was the Cardinals, I know it was. It was
he was.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He was in New York with the Giants and he uh,
he went to work in the summertime because back then
you couldn't make a living playing in the NFL. So
his job in the winter, in the in the off
season was to do the updates on w CBS, and
that's how he got a job. And he was I
don't know how I would rank him as a kicker.
I never got to see him play, but Pat summer
(11:04):
All was. His profession was broadcaster. His notoriety was football
and and Frank Gifford. Although I never thought he was
a good broadcaster, was did the same thing. He played
football in New York and transitioned into becoming a broadcaster.
So uh, anyway, Yeah, Asia Wilson, I love your game.
But you're wrong on that, on that stat.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, and you look at Mike, Mike Trico or you
would be able to tell me this Vern Lundquist. Vern
Lundquist have any sports expertise.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And he played I guarantee that he played golf well
it probably played it. I don't know how well he
played it, but I would imagine Vern Lunquist spent a
lot of time with Tom Landry and text ran back
in the day. I learned a lot about football. Yeah,
I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But it's just this whole notion that well, if you've
never played, you don't deserve or you your.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Opinion shouldn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You've talked about it several times for for podcasters. When
clearly you think that, hey, you're going to be the
next great thing, and it comes to find out you
can't jump more than two inches off the ground. What's
the best or an easiest way for me to at
least be able to be close enough to experience it.
You get to do play by play, or you get
(12:16):
to be within the organization, and that's how you live
your dream of being at least within that sport.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, coming up, we've got the WNBA
season starting we've got the Preakness tomorrow and we've got
the NFL meetings coming up. We'll get to that in
the next a few minutes as well. It's five forty
seven on the ticket.
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